What's my line?
During a presentation of the athletic department’s financial situation, athletic director Jim Donovan showed a data chart with two lines. The dark line was the department’s net budget for the past six fiscal years; the lighter line showed the budget excluding the more than $2 million earned from the Warrior football team’s participation in the 2008 Sugar Bowl. The designations were to emphasize that the Sugar Bowl season was an economic aberration.
Which brings us to this season’s Rainbow Warrior basketball team. Did injuries and suspensions force a change in the coaching style and, subsequently, the team’s performance and tactics? Or, despite those circumstances, was this the team’s usual method of operation?
If the circumstances created an aberration, then head coach Bob Nash should be judged less harshly. If not, if this style is what was to be expected regardless of the injury situation, then he should be judged more critically.
Donovan must decide the appropriate line.
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No, Hugh Yoshida is not planning a comeback. He has been helping the transition process at Saint Louis School.
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As far as I can tell, Wayne Hunter is the only player with Hawaii ties who received a “tender” designation from his NFL team.
The New York Jets designated Hunter, who is a restricted free agent, an original pick tender. That means any team that signs Hunter would have to exchange a third-round pick. The Seattle Seahawks drafted Hunter in the third round in 2003.
No team is expected to bid on Hunter, who is a backup guard/tackle. He also is used as a tight end in the jumbo schemes.
What’s interesting is that Hunter is used as the model for Ray Hisatake, who also made the move from defensive lineman to offensive lineman.
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Don’t forget that the Field of Legends football clinic is tomorrow at Aloha Stadium.
Colt Brennan, Davone Bess, Chris Naeole, Jake Ingram and Chad Owens are among the guest instructors.
For ages 7-12, the session is from 9 a.m. to noon. For ages 13-18, sessions are from 2 p.m. to 4 p.m.
Call the Barefoot League store at 734-0200 for details.
Morning!
JD needs to do what’s best for UHAD.
Good morning, Stephen!
Whoa…top 5….
JD needs to do what’s best for the program regardless of the economic situation.
The question should be who will put on a more successful and entertaining product next year: Nash or someobdy else.
I like Nash. I think he’s intelligent, knows the game and has real aloha for the players and fans. I think his teams can win and be entertaining.
But I’m not a season-ticket holder or administrator.
Aloha Kakahiaka!
Top Ten!
Topu Ten-gu!
looks like i’ll have a lot of free time in reno unfortunately.
The ole rock and a hard place.
Nuff said.
ST…I agree. The bottom line, especially in these economic times, is the bottom line. Programs need to produce to ensure their survivability. Although Coach Nash seems to know his stuff about basketball (and I am definitely not a student of the game so I’m not the best one to really comment on his abilities), it doesn’t appear that his teams have produced over the last two years. Now that’s based purely on the numbers. I think that the guys on this blog who know basketball way more than I do would actually have better opinions on this. But again, the bottom line is the bottom line, and that goes for all athletic programs.
If not Bob Nash…
who are possible names that would come here with undoubtedly a “not so high” pay…..
Good morning everyone!
Didn’t go to a single MBB game this year…unless something changes, don’t anticipate that changing next season.
Sorry, but that’s the truth…..for me anyway.
Even Pac-10 schools with winning football teams are running Athletic Department deficits.
imho, the fascination with the bucks is blinding us to the real issues.
In primary and secondary education in general, the focus has not been on “who are these kids and how do they learn what they need to know to be successful?” Until that program is developed, no amount of money will, alone, create success.
And so it goes on to higher education. What are we studying and why? To make more bucks? To have a career as a university professor? To find a creative and fulfilling way to serve humanity and my own family and community?
How can UH educate students meaningfully and effectively and provide a valuable service at the same time? For instance, when my sister was studying to be a doctor in Indonesia, students actually worked in the villages with people who needed medical attention.
Closer to home, hairdressers and manicurists study and provide economical services to real people while they do it.
To me- the current economical situation is a opportunity to think out of the box in order to channel the necessary resources effectively.
If anyone in the recent history of the UHAD can think creatively, Jim Donovan can.
The Big 10 paid for a report to analyze the teams they are interesting in for expansion.
I don’t think that anybody talks about Karl Benson this way.
Oregon with all the $$ they get from Phil Knight is in the red? 😯
I’ve never heard of a penalty fee like this for the WAC…maybe the WAC should include a monetary penalty for teams that leave–the MWC teams sure didn’t pay a penalty fee and BSU doesn’t seem to have to face one if they leave. A Big East team that leaves the conference has to pay $5 million.
BN is a good guy and a loyal UH servant… You could say that injuries did play a large role as to why the season was such a disaster. At the same time, it’s BN’s fault for having only 3 available scholarship guards for the season. Flemings and Mayen are forwards, not guards. Poor planning and judgement by BN should play a large role in deciding his future (not the injuries excuse).
Remember the super ferry?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhbMfvUWptQ
If I’m not mistaken, a few years ago, the WAC tried to get members to sign an allegiance pledge.
Nobody did, if I recall.
I am not a great follower of basketball since I don’t play it (I was told that as a basketball player I’d make a great linebacker). But wasn’t there agreement at the end of last season–that the team had to win 18 games? …or was that just a bet between Ralph and Jason?
Old commercial but good message for T-gaters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Z2mf8DtWWd8
ST:
Would Kenan Forney count as “with Hawaii ties”? He just signed with Jacksonville Jaguars.
LMAO!
Thanks Officer C.!
#21 – Mr. C. Why you have to rile me up again? I was trying to calm down all these years and dissipate my feelings about a few “protesters”.
ok, I better HiHo…
I miss football. Unfortunately I have just never had much interest in college BB and I cannot ever recall going to a UH game. Love VB, both mens and womens, and enjoy baseball live — but do not follow it. I did watch part of a UH BB game a few weeks ago while we were on Maui for vacation and I wasn’t particularly “entertained.”
There are lots of metrics besides winning and losing that should determine whether a program is “successful” I think. There are few teams that will win consistently without equal or better talent — is the team not winning because of a lack of coaching or is it a lack of talent? If it is a lack of talent is it a recruiting problem that can be corrected by a new coach or is it a deeper problem?
I think men’s basketball has a steep hill to climb in Hawaii. Hawaii has always had great homegrown volleyball talent, great football talent, and great baseball talent. Each of those UH sports could probably fill their recruiting needs and be competitive each year if they only had Hawaii high school kids each year (and by that I mean that they never lost a recruit to a different school.)
Can you say the same about basketball? I honestly do not know but it doesn’t seem like it. The only two local kids on the current team are listed as guards.
There are good basketball players that come out of Hawaii high schools occasionally, sure, but not at the same pace as in the other sports. When was the last time that Hawaii produced a natural center, say 6’10 plus, that played Div 1 basketball?
There are so many basketball programs around the country that even though you are recruiting fewer players than say football you are competing against many more schools. Of all the “big” UH sports BB has to be hardest for recruiting. That is part of the reality that has to factor into the equation. Of course between Boise State and Idaho there is only one player actually from Idaho.
I wish them luck of course and would love to see them succeed with or without Nash.
Good morning…great hot coffee/chocolate morning with the rain and gray skies.
Question for the more knowledgeable baseball fans. As the game progressed, the Citadel started stealing every base in sight…probably tires and rims too! There were probably less than a handful of throws over to 1st base the whole game…and no pitch-outs that I remember. Was there something happening that was preventing adjustments?
Liz, sorry, just wanted to share, no like lose good people when get good fun.
Liz
Protestors is good, it gives us jobs. Sometimes.
I like it when it turns to riots. Das da best.
Way back when I worked for a guy who would counsel his clients that the first and foremost thing they needed to do was identify what business they are *really* in.
He cited the example of Revlon who, at that time, had done an excellent job of focusing their efforts on selling what their customers *really* wanted. The Former Coach was able to identify this same thing in ’99 and I hope now JD is able to do the same.
Any guesses what it is that Revlon was selling?
#24. Mahalo, Mr. C. I’m awake now!
#31 – wish you were here with a long polehook to dissipate the situation!
ok. nuffsaid.
d1 – that’s what the newspaper industry needs to think about. What business are they in? ST is way ahead of the curve when it comes to disseminating reliable information quickly.
BG,
Not sure but watching it on TV last night once the rain started it seemed like our catcher was very concerned about keeping his throwing hand dry…
some things you might want to see in a coach:
Enthusiasm, can recruit, is the product worth watching, and now more than ever, can he graduate.
If he can, I’d say you got a good coach!
A quick update on the Blue Tent – the person who handles the program is still not back at work. Will try later on today.
Mahalo for your good thoughts conceerning my stolen wallte. All the paperwork has been filed, but the big financial issue we’re facing is with the two banks and their reimubrsement policies.
Am also running into another major problem, thanks to the guys who flew into the Trade Center on 9/11 and all the illegal immigrants crossing our borders. It seems that I cannot get replacement ID without ID. For example, I’ll have to drag DrDoc along with me to get medical care at Kaiser since they now require picture ID as well as a medical card..I asked if I could show them our marriage license or a tax return, but that’s not good enough. I cannot get a replacement driver’s license because of my vision problems. I cannot get a state ID card or even a real Social Security card. I don’t think I ever had a real SS card although I know my number. Unfortunately, my birth was never recorded – wasn’t a requirement until maybe thirty years ago – so legally I don’t exist although I still have to pay my taxes – that’s a different government department
Got to last night’s Bowsball game in the sixth inning because both of us had prior commitments. Because of the junk weather, we sat in the lower level close to the Tsai-Crew regulars. Wonder if they went out afterwards for Zippy’s saimin again.
Is it true that the date for the spring football “game” is Friday, April 30th? Both diamond sports teams are playing WAC games that evening. That will really create some problems for us multi-sports fans.
A number of interesting things happening with respect to public policy issues facing UH and the Aloha Stadium. Will try to find some time to post the updates over the weekend.
Off to work.
to reiterate a view point on nash.
he has no doubt been a loyal rainbow warrior since the fab 5 days. he stuck around and made hawaii home. he deserved the shot at heading his beloved alma mater. he is a man of great character and passes that on to his players.
unfortunately, he was left with a team who’s pantry was bare and he was penciled in too late. so late, that he was unable to garner a decent recruiting class his year time up. however, it proved to be his achille’s heel as the next two years was evidence that recruiting would not be a strong point for him. surely he retained the same recruiting coordinator of the past so many years before him. the results are in.
in this business of college sports to have success you need to be able to have the right man at the helm. nash has a lot of those qualities, no doubt in my mind. however, his shortfall is obvious. if you can’t bring in the talent your product will only go so far.
we have had injuries this season and that will always be a part of sports. but, we did not have the talent to reload when some went down. the lack of true d1 players hurt us and it is the sole responsibility of the head coach to ensure that you at least go into the gym with a loaded gun.
Happy Aloha Friday Tsaikoland! Hope everyone has a fun and safe weekend.
A-House:
Did they put the tender designation on him?
oops.
“…recruiting class his first(year) time up.”
i also couldn’t figure out why we recruited guys who had to redshirt this year when we needed them on the bench.
OK, I looked it up. It was a straight free-agent signing.
With Hunter, the “tender” is key, because it means the Jets believe he is worthy of being protected from poachers. At the same time, I think the third-round designation means he will receive some significant money, and I’m surprised that would happen for a backup.
Then again, this is an uncapped year.
I do hope a new CBA is reached in the next few months. Otherwise Samson Satele will miss out on a big payday, and, worse, there might be a lockout, which means everyone would miss out on a payday.
Aleksandar Milovic and Zane Johnson are required to sit out this because of transferring.
Redskins just cut Todd Collins…so…is that a good or bad thing for Colt Brennan?
#45…thats what i was talking about.
in this, his critical year, where he needed more players/guards coupled with the need to reload his bench, why did he pick up two guys who wouldn’t be able to contribute this year?
al,
Sometimes only get green bananas left for buy?
D-1 ~ I noticed our catcher keeping his hand dry, and stcking it inside his shirt at times. The problem he had was catching the balls that were low and in the mud. They weren’t bouncing up, and were slithering by him, thus allowing the base runners to move intp scoring position.
Ground crew was slow to get out with some dirt to rake in between innings. Costly. Visitors had the umpire bring ground crew out to spread the mound area. Whatever it takes. Gotta think outside the foul lines for the advantage.
Is CBA collective bargaining agreement?
Because of work, got to the game in the 2nd inning. Was kind of disappointed in the turnout, but the rain may have been a factor. Still, rain has never stopped me from attending a sporting event of any kind. In any case, though the game was entertaining, it was also frustrating because they missed out on a lot of potentially big innings & also had a hard time keeping the Citadel from getting on base. I think they scored in 6 of 9 innings. Freitas seemed to have difficulty making that peg to 2nd base numerous times, but weather conditions may have contributed. Though the other team looks solid, they still look beatable by UH. I liked that Coach Trap pulled the hook a lot faster on pitchers. I guess I gotta give credit to the other team. They were aggressive & really made many seeing-eye (and clutch) hits.
re: Coach Nash.
I still hope he returns next year, even if it’s his last. With Bill Amis, the redshirts & some decent recruits coming in prospects should be a lot better for a much improved season. And if it isn’t a stellar year, then I wouldn’t have any qualms if they decide to let him go. Let’s hope that they use more class & aplomb than when they got rid of Coach Wagner (and Coach Rocha?).
Citadel and really run the bases. I thought UH did not do too well defensively. Especially at home.
and = can
Al:
Good point.
It sounded like he entered the year with a two-year plan. Knowing they would lose several players after this year, they reloaded for the following year.
If everything had worked out, Williams and Lay being available and playing well, and Amis healthy, things might have been different.
But sometimes what-ifs don’t mean anything.
And, yes, CBA is collective bargaining agreement.
The other CBA — Continental Basketball Association — was killed by Isiah Thomas.
And the Knicks thank him, too.
Here’s my 2 pennies worth.
Long time season ticket holder for men’s basketball. I used to go to games, then go home watch again on tv, and again. I believed Bob Nash deserved the chance to coach our team, but the boring stand around till the shot clock runs down offense and weak defense made it an easy decision to stop going to the games. Why are we frequently falling behind double digits in the first half?
I’ll watch some games on tv, but without the passionate must see that I used to have. Considering the underclassmen lack of experience, I don’t see any improvement in the near future.
d1…bananas eventually ripen. if you have the time.
st…still can’t go in to the season with three guards, two of whom where unproven (lay and williams).
i don’t buy the “no more money” to buy out the contract theory of keeping him because by today’s standards he was already grossly underpaid for the past three years by the university.
Agree w/Al as well. Donovan told Nash he had to win 18 games this year or next or reach a post-season tournament to keep his job. Although Coach Nash is a heck of a person, I probably think we need to go in a new direction with the coaching staff especially the recruiter.
But Nash was told he’d have a shot at next year and winning those 18 games.
So doesn’t Donovan have to keep his word to Nash?
chopsueyboy…ya making me hungry again.
i hear you on this stuff. during the fab5 days and batman/robin (ac & alika) times going to a game was such thrill of a lifetime.
i felt that this year he should have pressed throughout the game because that would have made the offense flow. clear the bench if he had to, but, play relentless defense even with the guys who never got off the bench this year. in the one game that he did that for a spurt we actually did well and i think the players enjoyed that style.
oh well.
Manoa Mist:
You’re right. I believe the staff was told it has to win 18 games and go to the postseason either this year or next year.
Based on that, I’m sure the staff made some decisions based on a two-year period.
It’s like football. If McMackin thought he would be judged solely on last year, then Aaron Brown, Brett Leonard and a one-armed Brashton Satele would have played. Looking at the big picture, it was a good thing they all sat out.
On bb I thought we were going to see more run and gun. The shooters they have btought in haven’t worked out so far.
I also think if UH were to make a change, it would be too late to significantly help recruiting.
So that means UH will have to rely mostly on the holdovers.
Will a new coach make the team better and more exciting? Or would it be better to keep Nash and demand he energize the offense?
I don’t know enough about business to offer an educated guess.
So what do you guys think? If there’s a change, any change, would you go to games?
If the answer is still wait-and-see, then that has to factor into the decision. I think UH needs the money up front.
ST
If there’s a change, I would go. If Bob Nash stays but changes style, I’d give it a look
I don’t know if it has has been this hard for me because I really want BN to succeed. But I find the watching the point guard dribble the ball until the shot clock runs out kills me. I hope Nash gets another year but after that I would not oppose a change.
Ann Miller sent me a story that the nation’s top-ranked boys volleyball team does not have a coach.
I suppose that’s another way to go …
More information is coming out about the guy who shot two Pentagon police officers last night. That said:
When I have late-afternoon meetings in the District, I usually head home by taking the Metro subway to the Pentagon, then switching to a bus for the last leg. Yesterday just happened to be one of those days. Coincidentally, I had just gone through the Pentagon not even 15 minutes before the gunman opened fire. The entrance he opened fire at is one that I see almost every time I transit through the Pentagon.
It’s almost surreal, but glad I wasn’t there at that time.
Interesting story about the use of body scanners at airports. I guess I can finally see what happened to that bubblegum wad I swallowed when I was a kid.
Oh, who am I kidding?
I swallowed it last week.
CRW:
We’re glad you’re safe.
Scary incident.
Ricketts should have a good game as with the rest of the team tonight as they face a team that is just entering D1 status and may end up looking like a deer caught in headlights.
Prediction:
Small kine slow start offensively for the Bows after the return from the mainland and then the flood gates open after the 3rd inning.
FINAL
UH 11
Seattle 1
😎
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Man, the Blood Bank of Hawaii is RELENTLESS!!! I’ve probably given blood about 6 times and each time I felt like garbage afterwards. It didn’t matter that I ate a decent breakfast or made sure to drink some Gatorade afterwards, I just never reacted perfectly to it. I think the last time I gave blood a few months ago, my previous boss sent me home as she looked at me and asked me why I was so pale.
I wanna give, but I just feel bad afterwards and there is no medical indication that I shouldn’t be giving blood either.
Yahoo reporting that Maake Kemoeatu released by the Panthers.
HA reporting that Idaho’s 2nd leading scorer, Kashif Watson, suspended for tomorrow’s game against UH.
Kazz – #71 – there doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason why some people are affecting by having blood drawn and others aren’t. A former co-worker, who used to be a phlebotomist, said he saw football players faint after having blood drawn.
Thanks for the reminder Kazz. Doris needs volunteers to help drink the w…er..I mean help with registering the golfers and record scores.
ST ~
I go to MBB games when I can to support the team and to watch basketball. I did hope that Lay & Williams would have contributed more to the outside shooting that I think they need to develop in their play. Standing around, passing the ball on the perimeter is not going to add points. They need to be able to drive the ball in, but that’s about all I know. Having watched Ben Howland & Jaime Dixon coach the NAU team and to see the improved play, I’m spoiled.
Still windy in Mo’ili’ili, but no rain clouds over Manoa valley; some dark clouds over the mountains. Almost time to get going.
Esme & whoooosh…
Homey ~ No height restrictions! If you are tall enuff to reach the ball wash, you’re good to go!
Hooray Pahoa Daggers! The only BI Team to move beyond the first round. Supposed “power” demolished in the first round by Punahou. Waiakea never shows up. St. Joseph gets stagefright…..and the PUNA BOYS KNOCK OFF DA #1 SEEDED ROUGHRIDERS! C’mon Tsai, that is one story right?
BIK
…..oops, that “supposed” power was none other than that historic team from Hilo known as the Vikings.
BIK
BIK:
Was Reed Sunahara a member of that team?
Did you know that a person “farts” an average of 14 times a day.
Did you know that you fart even when you are sleeping?
Relation to football: be careful where you sit cause the “air quality” may change from time to time!
Providence Friars have lost 9 in a row, 11 out of 12 but they put up a more exciting game and can compete. Against a ranked team, it took a miracle shot for Pitt to win at home. I can take Hawaii’s losses, just not the way they play and lose.
BIK speaking of Hilo Vikings, just remembered the days of Malinguis and Ichinose putting the Vikes on the map. But that was a long time ago
#45..Washington releases Collins…Me thinks it’s a great situation for Colt because now he will have to compete for the second spot with a real chance to be number 2. Zorn made some statements last year that Collins was going to be number 2 and with the injuries and all, Colt really was only going to get a chance to “acclimate” to the NFL.
That being said, Washington will probably draft a QB and the only question is how high? Depending on the position and who they draft, Colt will have his work cut out. He says he is healthy and ready and I hope he will be the number 2 if not number 1 after preseason is over.
GOOD LUCK COLT!
I hope Nash gets another year. This year being a critical year for him was full of road blocks. Injuries, suspensions and all to players who were counted on to have good years. It’s a difficult set circumstances for any coach at any level.
What does he have in the cupboard? These guys will have to get up to speed quickly, if not sooner. Quality recruits who can hit the floor running and gunning will have to be part of the solution to a better season next year. I don’t see too much wiggle room to get the new recruits up to speed.
I really didn’t see any game where the offense ran as it should. There was hardly any “passion” on defense. Team lost a lot of the “hustle” plays. Gotta get Shep to teach these guys under the boards that the “paint” belongs to me! Shep was one ferocious rebounder and it showed in the stats but there was too many uncontested shots in the paint.
naupau rant…
like chopsueyboy I have avoided mbb, the only games i’ve gone are the ones I won from the WB the last two seasons and both games stunked. I’ve watched a lot more energized women’s game on ESPN than the product UH puts out at the SSC, shameful. Save money, stay home. UH can not survive with a few hundred faithful boosters like chawan cut to carry the program, UH needs to win and play very competitively and make the NCAA tournament every year. Qualifying for the WAC tournament should be the goal, too low, shoot for higher aspirations, get into the NCAA regional.
Kurtz played 5 minutes last night, and I don’t believe he is hurt. UH brings in a 7 footer who they heralded as a shot blocker, a force to take up space in the paint, needed offensive work but his presence alone in the paint will channel the opponents shots and drive to the basket. But the player sits on the bench most of the season with one year to play. Wasn’t it obvious why no other coach recruited him last season and why he was available in June when school was about to enter summer session.
Last season the Bows pitching held up, Spangler and Linksy were good stoppers, and we had a lot of clutch hits from Kolten, Vinnie, Hernandez and McDonald, especially late inning heroics that brought the crowd to their feet. Lots of excitement and fun, they won early, attendance went up, unfortunately the faded in the WAC and barely made the tournament but it was a great year of baseball. Hopefully, this series with Citadel will spring board the team, pitching has been hit hard and we are not getting the late inning rallies as much as last season.
2 doubles in the first innings, is it a bad omen, hope not.
is Al taping this game, or is he at the ball game with #2 son.
Stanford beat Florida 2-0 in the Fullerton sb classic today.
On the AW show this morning, he made mention about former Warriors who are scattered around the country and utilizing them as potential “scouts” for the hoops program. Great idea and this ties into what Rainbowcliff was talking about as far as having a strong alumni program. If there was good communications with these former players we could be getting a good heads up on potential Warriors.
What do the program need for 2011?
Almadova, with 4 Ks last night and a “golden sombrerro” honor, is not batting lead off tonight
Northshorefan for 2011 they need 5 new starters, UH played with a senior team this season and that is why it is so disappointing to see the team with a 10-19 record. Hiram has a year of eligibility but he is not a PG, lacks quickness and speed for the position, and he has no shot to be the #2 position.
Lay doesn’t seem to have the necessary ball handling skills for a PG, his outside shot is inconsistent, and he couldn’t beat out a limping, one armed Thompson for the PG position this season.
Let me first that I have no doubt that Bob Nash is a good man. He’s been the head coach 3 years so far. I don’t really penalize him the first year because he got started late in the recruiting process after he got his job. Still, bottom line, he and his assistant coaches are entrusted to recruit basketball players for the program. And bottom line, Bob Nash has to take the responsibility for it. If Donavan gives Nash another year which would be his final year of his contract, in effect, Nash is a lame duck coach because the players he recruits doesn’t know if the the coach will be around beyond that 1 year. Tough situation. To look at Nash’s recruits so far, many of the players that came on board were not Division I caliber players and either left early because they didn’t cut it and if they stayed did not get much playing time. i.e. Jespersen, Fitzgerald, Pargalava. Nitoto could have helped had he stayed, but he left after his sophomore year. But he was not a good shooter. Of this year’s newcomers only Jeremy Lay played the most. Williams played only 1/4 of the games and you know the rest. Kurtz played little and Enos hardly. Jiang was not a big contrbuter and Albrectson was only a practice player. Lutu is actually a walk-on. So when you think about it, even w/ Amis healthy this team was probably going to have about the same record as 2008-2009, Bottom line. The team’s performance over the 3 years has not improved, if any.
As a UH fan, I’m tired of losing and more than that I don’t like the way they are losing. They don’t play exciting basketball. If they do, I and a lot of fans would go to the games a lot more and that’s the bottom line….to get revenue to help the entire athletic programs. So that’s the way I look at it. If we get another coach the priority is to be able to recruit and his assistants have to recruit successful to get quality Divsion I basketball players. If course, the other things like graduating the players, run a clean program, etc. is basic and just a important. If a little school like Gonzaga can be a top 25 team just about every year, I don’t know why UH can’t be at least a winning program every year! Easy for me to say, but many teams have turned their seasons in just one year because of 1 new recruit. If a coach can get 3 to 5 decent Division I players in one year I guarantee the team will be a lot better. That said, college ball is a guard oriented game. We desperately need to get at least 3 good guards in the program right now who can handle the ball, create shots, shoot the 3 and shoot free throws at least 75%. A good recruiter can find them. There are a lot of good players from 5’9″ to 6’5″
around who can do these things. Find them!!!!!
i wonder if rod flemings is second guessing his college choice now
but regardless:
rod flemings>rod tam
yup, Gonzaga, Butler, Northern Iowa, lots of small schools with successful programs.
next year’s bb will need to find five diamonds in the rough who can start or contend for a starter’s position.
at best, we have thompson and a lot of if’s.
if amis is 100%
if lay is 100% and can improve his skills
if johnson is that good
if, though i doubt it, williams will grow up
don’t expect too much from any one else on the roster.
one lone hs guard on the early commits and none in sight.
that is scary.
Ralph..agree, we do need 5 new starters. The only one I see right now is Amis. Thompson is not a PG but he has some good leadership qualities. He has been hampered with no help at the other guard position. Lay really didn’t play to his potential and I hope his surgery will help him develop. Not sure how the redshirts will do or fit in but Nash needs to fill some spots quickly. The new guys will have to pick up the offense fast. One redshirt year should help them. 2011, I expect a much more competitive team!
McDonald .. home run…Kitamura..triple! 4-2 Citadel though….s—t!
Shoji made his decision on Sealy’s replacement but no announcement till monday.
4 – 3 Citadel…Roqemore at 3rd…
This series turning out to be a great spectator game! Lots of action!
Montplasir at bat…roqemore on third with his first hit and rbi..0 outs…
4 – 4..tie game Moneplasir gound ball rbi!…
Shoji picks assistant, but he won’t tell…Got to wait for the UHAD announcement, probably on monday.
GO (Kapaa) WARRIORS!!!
who is Milovic and Johnson, mbb, JUCO or D1 transfers?
Ralph, transfers from Providence and Arizona, me thinks..redshirts this year..
isn’t Dwain a Providence transfer?
I vaguely remember, Johnson is the Arizona transfer, not sure about Milovic. Maybe another weatherford JUCO Jackson Wheeler brought in!
after 3 complete innings, ECU 0, UDUB 0
👿
Leadoff triple goes for naught in the 4th.
yup especially when the #2,3 and 4th batters follow-zero run
end of 4, ECU 0, UDUB 0. ECU 0 hits, UDUB 1 h. great pitchers match.
Sunohara….Manliguis…..Ichinose……….Hilo Vikings. Those days are gone.
Remember, Hilo made it to this years’ state championship game with two ALL LEAGUE players who transfered (during their senior year) from Waiakea. Without those two (Shintani and Allen), this year would have been like most recent years — average or above average. All due respect to Coach Keamo and big hearted players like Chan Spikes and Scotty Wong. Hilo has had some good players in recent years. They just have not been the mystical viking team that was a state powerhouse for many years. The Wesley Martinez/ Jason Mandiquit was the last state championship for Hilo…..and it could be the last for a while. (A little sidebit — DYK that Hilo’s Wesley Martinez…..is actually a Ka’u boy? Transfered to Hilo during senior year to play for the Vikings).
Hilo WAS a power……when there was no Waiakea, Keaau or Kamehameha. Now, Hilo is just another country school. It’s a cool place to go to school though, they got good academics for a public school and their performing arts department is top notch. As for athletics however, those great viking years are a thing of the past. I hope they prove me wrong eventually.
Until then, Go Pahoa Daggers!
BIK
Thanks for all the Big Island 411, BIK. I have tons of family there, most who attended Hilo High.
BIK, and just a short time ago, they had one of the best principals in the state, Dr John M
and my good friend, Ed K who passed away was the swim coach for many, many years and now his protege, Jon H carrier on.
BIK and DPK, also at one time Hilo produced many collegiate swimmers and world champions including Yoshi O, Ed K, and many more.
And the Hilo HS Pool is named after Ed K
hey did bulla forget to wish the beast a happy birthday!
here ralphie….just for you.
http://www.hawaiiathletics.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=6640&path=mbball
hmmmm.
i thought we were going to receive word on brashton’s sixth year??
al, on sunday, i get a feeling that going have sumthing that broke’s da mouth.
thanks Al not counting of Milovic and anyone else, don’t jump and tell me that oh, BN got some RS for next year that he is saving. Milovic average 5 minutes in 8 games he played at Dusquense as a freshman. He will be another roster player, UH needs proven talent with game experience or some HS messiah we haven’t seen or heard of.
Oh Al UH lost 9-5, you can erase the tape. The Citadel came out hitting, ran the bases, and their pitching held up when it needed. We had man on third without any outs, bases loaded with 2 outs, both innings zero runs, no clutch hitting
UDUB 6-0 over East Carolina. UH takes on Seattle next.
ST,
Thanks for heading the” What’s my Line”?
The ultimate guessing game
One of my favorite shows.
Didn’t they bring it back on some oldie station?
Arlene Francisis was tops
end of one, Na Wahine 3-0 over seattle.
i’m glad Trap is shaking up his lineup, got to find someone who can hit. 3 new faces in the second game. but Breland is struggling, but he needs time, Roquemore struggled all of last year and this year, he had his opportunities and will get more as Breland learns the D1 game.
UH has some size for pitchers, Staats, Sisto and Little, now they got to learn to pitch.
Citadel is fo REAL!
I luv how they play. Scrappy, disciplined, speedy and solid all around team. So far from what I’ve seen of them, they could possibley sweep here. 11 hits after 7 innings, 7 doubles, hr….
These guys seem to be better than Oregon. Small college but talented.
didn’t realize that the WAC mandates all umpires be WAC umpires for all games including non conference games, that is another expense a low or non revenue sports don’t need, ca-ching more red numbers.
Wow!
Kolten! 😀
fo real dat Ralph, the hitters also got to be more disciplined and they gotta have a clue of what they want to do when they up there. I’ve seen some adjustment last night when they went with the first pitch and had some good hits.
So far pitching has not been there. Got some good talent but not really where they need to be at this point.
Team should be in good shape entering WAC play. So far they have faced some really good teams.
Good to see three freshmen starting this game.
Anyhoo,,have a great evening guys!…
Citadel has a student enrollment of 2000, about a third go on to military service after college.
Re-This is what Artie said on his show
“What you want to see in your players is a fighting attitude.”
In his opinion he sees an absence of this within the mens basketball team at UH.
I think he’s right.
He goes on and uses the foxhole analogy, meaning if you’re soldier during wartime there are certain types of people you want near your side, especially ones that aren’t quitters or losers.
Putting it bluntly, in sizing up these players , Artie said that he wouldn’t welcome the idea of any of these players on this years UH mens basketball team in his bunker during wartime..
“These guys would run from a fight”, Artie says candidly.
My take on listening to Artie is that his pride is hurt as he’s watching his ship sink.
And he should feel this way.
But a lot of these problems stem from, and I’m sure Artie knows this, is that the apple (meaning the players) doesn’t fall too far away from the tree (the coach).
When you look at Coach Nash’s tenure granted there are inherent problems he’s faced, but the things he was in control of (inexcusable flaws) , like instilling discipline, pride, fighting attitude and motivation he failed at.
In evaluating if Coach Nash should be retained, JD should weigh everything. And when he does he should conclude that there are too many inexcusable flaws to Coach Nash’s coaching in keeping him on.
Everybody can see this. Hopefully JD does. He needs to rescue the BB program instead of watching it sink to the bottom.
Kolten, picked off dead at first, pitcher made a geat move, first base let ball go past, Kolten circles the bases and scores!..
UH 1…Citadel 0…
NSH come on down to the quarry saturday, sb tournament with 4 games starting at 12 noon, UH bows at 6, and water polo vs UCLA at 3 pm
Slaats keeps that sinker location and he is going to have a great game…
Anonymous…caught the show this morning and you could really feel Artie’s disappoijntment. He made some great observations however painful it was.
Like he said, if he was walking through a tough neighborhood and a fight broke out, he wouldn’t want any of these guy’s next to him. Pretty sad commentary.
anonymous i think the UH bb is at the bottom, not sinking, they can’t go lower than last in the WAC
Na Wahine up 4-0, top 4, Puu Warren solo homer in third.
Almadova struck out, that’s 5 in a row for him, hope he gets out of this funk soon, might get to his head and hitting becomes a mental block.
at the last Na Wahine sb tournment in the quarry, Kazz, Pomai and I watch Puu Warren strike out 8 straight times in a DH but got a homer in her 9th at bat.
Ralph.. I wanted to take in the SFB game and BBall but I have an event tomorrow and Sunday and can’t make any games!..Talk about disappointing! Tonight I need to cook dinner for the Mrs..
Like I said, you guys have a good one and keep warm and dry!
Thank you, ST for tweeting out the MVB score. Too bad their heckler section wasn’t with them. Go BaseBows!
cal state northridge defeats bows 3-2 in mvb
Na Wahine up 9-0 after 4. Well I guess I’m not going early to watch UDUB play Seattle tomorrow at 2 pm.
OT tourists got to pay $3 to park at the Pali look out starting today. We start nickel and diming the tourists and later wonder where have all the tourist gone to. It’s just a look out, quick turn around. Imagine if we had to pay for every stop we made to view a scenic look out on the mainland
Ralph . . .
That was the same thought I had when I read the story. On the other hand what is the added value and are they providing more security?
and sum want mufi for governor????????
and then the outer island gets all the tourist and money!!!!! not to mention jobs.
Ralph,
Already get pay stations at OR State parks.
…and toll booths aplenty in many other states.
7-0 BaseBows! Keep it coming guys….
Hoping Colt, Davone, Chris, Jake, Chad, and all of the participants have a great day tomorrow. And, any Tsai-kos that happen to show up, too!
Nytal!
eyes blindfolded…recording the game.
i hope no one is reporting the score.
should i remove the blindfolds?
is ralph around?
Free play link time. Please ignore my next 10 posts if you do not want to read the off-topic stuff. I haven’t done these in awhile so I’ll do 10 today.
Study found that beer contains silicon that can strengthen bones and found that if taken in moderation beer can benefit human bodies similar to wine.
Woman filed a $5 million lawsuit because when went in for a boob job and ended up with *4* breasts. She said that she had a “great marriage” before the boob job, but after the first surgery (they operated twice more to try to fix the problem) she never let her husband see her undressed again and they ended up getting divorced.
Man was arrested for trying to walk his dog by having his dog walk alongside his car as he drove it slowly. He already had 9 points on his driving record, so that 3 additional points resulted in a 6 month ban from driving for him.
New biometric technique scans *noses* to identify people–unlike eyes and ears, noses are difficult to conceal and aren’t changed much by facial expression.
The TSA is looking to buy 100 shoe scanners by next year that will allow us to keep our shoes on while going through airport security.
New gasoline fuel injection system has been developed that improves the efficiency of gas engines by 50% to 75%. A test vehicle the size and weight of a Toyota Prius got 64 mpg for highway driving (better than the Prius). The California company says that the system can work with existing engines and costs about as much as existing high-end fuel injection.
Wired’s Editor-in-Chief says that the iPad will solve the magazine industry’s business problems.
Couple spent their wedding night in separate jail cells after the bride tried to run over the groom’s ex-girlfriend and her son. The groom (a registered sex offender) was riding in the car at the time.
whitey…no forget use kikoman shoyu.
Article about the “supervolcano” located near Mammoth Mountain in California that rarely erupts, but when it does erupt it has sent volcanic ash as far east as the Mississippi River!
Researchers found a way to turn the human body into a touchscreen! They beam a keyboard or menu onto a part of body and use a skin-based interface (“skinput”) to make the body into a touchscreen.
Free play links pau.
artie has been nash’s friend for a long time.
he was the first to endorse nash for head coach.
artie has been the reluctant critic of late.
but, he needs to be honest and so….
i am sure that many of us wanted a cinderella story when nash finally got his opportunity to take over the reigns.
i would think that what with just a few scholies per year that the head coach would be directly involved in recruiting.
i would never sign a kid until i saw him play at least twice along with several complete game tapes plus one or two upfront face to face talks. so why do so many head roundball coaches leave it up to their recruiter??
and sum home made chili pepper water. yeeeeesh
or a couple of tongarashi in the shoyu.
Great night at BOTH ball parks for UH.
Wasn’t at the bball game but Na Wahine did what they were supposed to do finishing off Seattle 9-1 in five innings. Highlights were a home run triple by Melissa Gonzalez and a great catch against the fence by Kelly Majam but it popped out a second after she fielded it earning Seattle their lone run.
Tomorrow is a test to see where the Wahine stand amongst the true best of the best against defending champs #1 Washington… But first a potential sleeper in ECU.
Ralph! Where were u tonight? Was me and Pomai and Koakane and Chawan stopped by a bit too during the break in between the baseball DH. Looks like Koakane and Chawan took some of the hitting mana from the softball stadium to Da Les.
Ralph – Pali is a STATE park. This is a DLNR issue. In Miami, you gotta pay to go to some beaches, which aren’t nearly as good as the worst of our beaches.
That 7-foot-2 freak of a middle blocker had 30 kills, NO errors, in 41 swings for Northridge.
That’s amazing.
Re: Field of Legends football clinic
In conjunction with the clinic there will be a bone marrow registry drive for Mitchell Ganeku. UH had a registry day when they had the Walk a Mile in Her Shoes event in February. I commend Barefoot League and our “Legends” for their community involvement.
http://www.facebook.com/barefootleague?v=app_4949752878
http://www.hsta.org/news_brief46.php
Is VB on tv? I’m watching a movie while the dvr is recorning shows for my kids.
Congrats to the BaseBows & the Wahine Softball Team! Impressive & dominant wins.
Let’s hope that carries into tomorrow’s games.
I’ve never corned a show before…much less recorned one 😆
At least the VolleyBows are competitive! Tough luck.
I’m presuming Tsai won’t mind my referencing another Advertiser blog re bone marrow registry, besides I bet Al knows the guy in the article. As I write this I was wondering which team at UH I was going to support for Relay for Life…and an email from Jason pops up. 🙂
http://midlifecrisis.honadvblogs.com/2009/11/05/give2live-hawaii-bone-marrow-donor-registry/
protector,
Thanks for reminding me about what I had posted this morning.
The point was that what Revlon was REALLY in was the business of “selling Hope”
That’s what The Former Coach was able to bring to the table as soon as he arrived and that’s what JD needs to evaluate in Coach Nash’s situation…
….will the fans see any hope in the MBB program next year?
During Von Crappen’s last year no one had any hope but The Former Coach was able to take basically the same group of players the next season and instill some hope in them and the fans and well, you all know the rest…
D1 I can understand paying enter to a state park, but a look out! imagine if we had to pay for every scenic spot or look out we stopped in the national park like yellowstone or yosemite. But Pali lookout. Haleakala okay, Hanauma bay okay, but Pali look out, someone who made this proposal needs to back off and think about it.
D1 yup he “hope” he doesn’t get fired
Kazz I wasn’t smarter than some of you, I watched the bb on tv, no rain, and no Manoa wind and rain at the sb game, followed it on live stats ha ha. I’ll be at the sb before 4 pm unless it really storms or more than a light drizzle.
wasn’t=was
I bet all of you were cold and complaining all night long
…and some of us were warm and STILL complaining! 😆
Ralph,
Actually one park in OR – Ecola State Park- is really about the same as the Pali Lookout. A nice place to stop and take a few pictures of the Oregon Coastline. It has some picnic tables and signs and a restroom but not much more.
Congrats to the Boys’ BB finalists in both divisions (BIK, you can start cheering now 😉 ) Should be a good Div I final; not sure about the Div II teams.
Oyasumina-tsai….
In regards to the Washington Redskins, I would think that Shanahan would try to draft the best QB he can get and find the best free agent veteran QB available. That would give Colt plenty of competition to deal with. It’s time for Colt to make things happen.
Colt Watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O2fa0VCdg4
ST – #176 – holy cr$p!!! why isn’t this guy playing basketball? then we wouldn’t have to see him. hope he’s a senior…
I remember watching “Wilt the Stilt” playing for the Big Dippers on TV in the Pan Pacific (not sure if I got the right tournament name) tournament in Hilo. Nobody could stop him. It would be good to see this guy on TV against UH too.
BaseBows looked really good tonight. Me thoughts they weren’t going to win one. Slaats did good! Made the pitches when he had to. This shoud give him a huge boost.
Pitching come around and ..Watch out WAC!
Ralph, d1,
It wasn’t that cold at Murakami tonight. Sure was sweet to watch the 2nd game! Good rowdy Tsaiko company!
Nitey nite and sweet Field of Legends dreams!
Pali Lookout has restrooms? Some of us would pay $3 to have a convenient restroom… 😐
This blog is great. How did you come up witht he idea? 3 8 1
I don’t think Pali has rest rooms. Problem with the State is that they collect these surcharges and later try to raid it and put it into the general fund, example, 911 enhancement, hurricane fund and rail tax. Collect it and spend it for the purpose it was collected for, not a hidden shibai tax
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