Wednesday in the desert


SUMMERLIN, Nev. — It was long practice today — 2.5 hours — but the Warriors were able to implement their defensive schemes for this game.

• Linebacker Aaron Brown resumed practicing this morning after being held out of yesterday’s workout because of  a head “ding” incurred during the Army game. He did not suffer a concussion. Although Brown practiced with the safeties last week as part of a special defensive plan, he is back at linebacker and not being considered as an injury replacement for strong safety Spencer Smith. 

• There was a little scare when punter Alex Dunnachie was walking around with an ice pack on his right leg. Not to worry. “Prevention is better than the cure,” Dunnachie said. There’s nothing wrong with him. 

• Yes, Jake Heun will indeed have an expanded role this week. 

• Kawika Ornellas is looking solid as a cornerback. He broke up two passes today. He said he’s feeling much better since conquering the tendinitis that bothered him last year. 


* * * * * 

In 1999, when the Warriors defeated Fresno State to clinch the WAC football title, the son of a well-known local personality and his two friends decided to jump onto the field and take down a goal post in celebration. But while running on the field, the guy noticed his friends did not follow. The guy was tackled by stadium security.

Which leads us to UH’s football future. There seems to be growing support for UH to  secede from the WAC and go independent in football. One of the key obstacles is scheduling. It would be in UH’s best interest to get written pledges from possible opponents as part of its due diligence. 

The reason the WAC — and UH — is in the current plight is because Fresno State did not honor a commitment it helped craft. UH should make sure it has solid commitments before making any jump.


  1. Michigan Warrior September 15, 2010 4:11 am

    Allright, Aaron Brown!

  2. Iolani fan September 15, 2010 4:11 am


  3. Michigan Warrior September 15, 2010 4:12 am

    I’d actually like to see us NOT schedule these newest defectors any time soon. But, yes, we do need to work on long term contracts now, just in case.

  4. d1島 September 15, 2010 4:14 am

    Great Morning All!

    Top Fi’

  5. Michigan Warrior September 15, 2010 4:14 am

    So, ST… did you take in a movie yesterday at that discounted price? Hope it was a good one if you did! Wish I were there to enjoy some of those buffets!

  6. CoolEthan September 15, 2010 4:29 am

    Yes, there is time to do the homework with future commits, especially those teams/venues that make the most logical sense with the cost factor and recruiting. UNLV is definitly one of those hubs for many reasons.

    I had a die hard Buff fan, that resides in Boulder, call me yesterday. He and many others ( and some boosters) are leaning on wanting a CU loss so they have more leverage to oust Hawkins this season.

    There seems to be a push to bring back Coach McCartney.

  7. NYUH September 15, 2010 4:32 am

    Ohio! State looks awesome this year.

    Looking forward to a Big D effort this week. A couple of fumbles really put them in a hole last week. But they came up big with a fumble recovery that turned the game around. That is the McMagic D we are expecting!

  8. Garret September 15, 2010 4:39 am

    Re-posting this link from the last blog. I found it interesting to read about the reactions by Colorado’s players to last week’s loss. Colorado’s starting QB posted this via Twitter after the game:

    “Buff nation, I promise you this type of thing will never happen again. Going out there and playing like that will never happen again while I’m at Colorado and I can promise that! It’s unacceptable.”

  9. Garret September 15, 2010 4:39 am

    Good luck to Kelly Shinn, the UH student who is on Survivor on CBS that starts tonight, but I’m going to be cheering for the older tribe (the one that has Jimmy Johnson).

  10. Garret September 15, 2010 4:44 am

    JD has been mentioning a lot of things about going indy, but he and everybody at UH knows that UH has until May or June before they need to make their final decision. He’s talked about how he’s contacted various teams about scheduling and we know that he’s talked with the Big West, but I’m sure that he won’t make the final announcement until after things are set.

    All of the lawsuits being filed may give UH an incentive to stay in the WAC a little longer. If the WAC gets $10 million or more, that will be split among the teams that are left…if UH declares that it will go independent, then UH won’t get a cut. Maybe one of the reasons the WAC plans to sue is to make it attractive for UH to stay in the WAC a little longer?

  11. d1島 September 15, 2010 4:46 am

    Good to have Aaron Brown in the mix.

    Glad the coaching staff is giving Pilares a shot on special teams; others should note how the decision was made, in part, with the player’s best interests in mind.

  12. Stephen Tsai September 15, 2010 4:55 am

    The line keeps jumping.

    13 points.

    Then 10.

    Now 11.

  13. Garret September 15, 2010 5:09 am

    If UH is looking for a sports channel and ESPN isn’t offering enough money, UH should get CBS College Sports and Fox Sports involved in the bidding. UH is hopefully putting out feelers now to gauge interest.

    CBS College Sports is really hurting for sports content and they have Army, Navy, and C-USA…nothing in UH’s Saturday night time slot. They also have time all week to rebroadcast games (like they have been doing with the UH-Army) game and show coaches shows. One side benefit of a network like CBS CS is that Mack’s coaches show would be broadcast nationwide as a nice recruiting tool. JJ’s coaches show is being shown something like 20 times this week by CBS CS.

  14. Pride. September 15, 2010 5:10 am


    September 15th, 2010 at 4:46 am

    Good to have Aaron Brown in the mix.

    Glad the coaching staff is giving Pilares a shot on special teams; others should note how the decision was made, in part, with the player’s best interests in mind.

    Aaron Brown is a hell of a player. He has exceptional speed, acceleration, and athleticsm.

  15. Garret September 15, 2010 5:12 am

    Article about how the MWC will try to delay, delay, delay the WAC’s lawsuit from proceeding because time is not on the WAC’s side.

  16. Pride. September 15, 2010 5:14 am

    Also good to see Rodney Bradley back on the field. Bradley is a big play kind of guy. He’ll probably make a few before the end of the season. Still recall his first touchdown last year at the back of the endzone. That was a big play. Sometimes because a guy can do something like that, we forget how very difficult it is to do.

  17. Garret September 15, 2010 5:14 am

    Karl Benson gave an interview to the San Antonio paper yesterday.

    UTSA is “high on the list” of schools under consideration for entry into the Western Athletic Conference, the WAC commissioner said Tuesday.

    Benson said invitations could be extended in 60 to 90 days. Previously, he had said the plan was to gather enough information to extend invitations by the February-April 2011 time frame

  18. Pride. September 15, 2010 5:15 am

    Same goes for Aaron Brown. That play that stopped the ballcarrier short of the goal line was a REAL big play. Most guys wouldn’t have been able to make that play. Not even Homey.

  19. Garret September 15, 2010 5:18 am

    Interesting to look back to the time when BSU did not get an invitation as expected and then Karl Benson hastily called a press conference that they could until after June 30 to give their notice. Benson bent over backwards so far for BSU that even BSU’s president was surprised.

    “I just assumed all along if we don’t give them notice by July 1 the WAC bylaws stand as is,” Boise State president Bob Kustra said Monday evening. “If they’re interested in amending that, that’s fine.”

  20. Garret September 15, 2010 5:19 am


    Aaron Brown’s play was impressive because he had to have the discipline to stay at home AND he had to make an open field tackle against a difficult runner trying his best to get into the end zone.

  21. Garret September 15, 2010 5:31 am

    David Veikune worked out for the Eagles.

    The Philadelphia Eagles worked out four players, including veteran wide receiver David Clowney, who ended up re-signing with the New York Jets. Linebacker David Veikune, a second-year veteran who had been in camp with the Cleveland Browns, also was in town.

  22. Stephen Tsai September 15, 2010 5:36 am

    I think Veikune would be an excellent pickup.

  23. d1島 September 15, 2010 5:38 am

    Lots of movement on that Hawaii-Colorado line so early in the week; must be all the Hawaii fans “laying ’em down” before leaving town to head to Boulder.

  24. d1島 September 15, 2010 5:40 am


    Anything happening with the other two TX schools and the WAC? UNT and Tx St.

  25. chopsueyboy September 15, 2010 5:52 am


  26. Annoddah Dave September 15, 2010 5:56 am

    ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs,

    I hope JD will “look before leaping”.

    Go Warriors! Beat CU!!

  27. mctruck September 15, 2010 5:58 am

    Seeing how the recruiting business must move on, and on….wonder what the recruiters say to a prospect bout conference affiliation?, or, does it matter at all??, in any UH sport.

  28. protector September 15, 2010 6:05 am

    It would be great to have Aaron back in there; I have a lot of confidence in him.

  29. Garret September 15, 2010 6:14 am


    Both Texas schools are waiting on invitations from the WAC. The nice thing is that they are ramping up their spending on Athletic facilities and doing a variety of other things to increase their attractiveness to the WAC, which will make them better members of the WAC when (I think we are way past the “if” stage) they join.

  30. Garret September 15, 2010 6:17 am


    I was referring to Texas State and UT-SA in my previous post. North Texas has rejected the WAC at least twice before (preferring the Sun Belt!), but their concern over travel time and costs would be much less with 2 other Texas schools in the conference.

    Trouble is, with 3 Texas schools, La Tech, and NMSU, UH would really be isolated geographically in the conference. And none of the Texas schools bring any TV market with them because Texas owns their TV markets.

  31. d1島 September 15, 2010 6:20 am

    Thanks Garret.

    Maybe I’d better keep my AAdvantage account active for now….

  32. 808ike September 15, 2010 6:35 am

    Good morning all.

  33. 808ike September 15, 2010 6:41 am


    Thanks for the info about Kelly Shinn on SURVIVOR. Bio on her.

  34. whitey September 15, 2010 6:44 am

    Good morning Tsaikos and d1 you staying home today???? If not, ho hi!!!

  35. Last Call September 15, 2010 6:46 am

    I’m getting the impression that Tsai fears going independent .

  36. Pomai September 15, 2010 7:02 am

    There is only one salvation for UH football, and that is “just win baby”.

  37. HawaiianTime September 15, 2010 7:23 am

    Morning Everybody, the desert is warming up, 84 degrees and rising in Vegas. Anybody hear about David Graves and whether he will backup at Safety?

  38. manoa September 15, 2010 7:36 am

    No one would go independent in football if there was any other reasonable alternative. It is a last resort, because it has so little chance for success, or as much chance for success as being in a conference.

    Recruiting, scheduling, and economics will be slammed, and the program will head downhill, barring a miracle. That miracle would be being invited into a conference– the key is getting invited into a conference before things get really bad as an independent. We won’t be the only ones in that boat– every other team left in the WAC will be stuck with the same problems– that may help with some of our scheduling, but it still leaves a lot of gaps and it means we compete with them to schedule, recruit, and save ourselves by getting into a conference.

  39. kev-1 September 15, 2010 7:46 am

    Am I the only one who doesn’t know who the local celebrity is whose kid jumped on field to take down the goal post? Come on . . . someone help a brother out! Who was it?

  40. Slugger September 15, 2010 7:47 am

    Good morning!!!

    Stay healthy, Aaron. And errybody else out in Tsaiko-land.

  41. rotation September 15, 2010 8:01 am

    Wanted to give a shout out to quarterback “Mo”, and to offensive lineman Bronson Tiwanak. Good luck saturday, we will be cheering from Hawaii. IMUA!

  42. Cyril Babu September 15, 2010 8:03 am

    great post as usual!

  43. papajoe2 September 15, 2010 8:07 am

    Is Pilares of the offensive special team? Can he handle the punts and kickoffs? You would think so because he is a receiver, but he sure dropped a lot of balls as a receiver this year alone. I guess he needs more focus on catching the ball then running it. Good luck Pilares! Take it to the house!

  44. papajoe2 September 15, 2010 8:09 am

    With a name like Kelly Shinn and from the University of Hawaii, I would of thought she was oriental, but not. Beat Jimmy Johnson at least, in Survivor.

  45. papajoe2 September 15, 2010 8:27 am

    I just read the article in the SA. Pilares is a “gunner” on the punt team. Well Pilares, hit ’em hard and make ’em hurt (not psycially, though. its just a game. More like fumble to hurt the Colorado team).

  46. Da Punchbowl Kid September 15, 2010 8:43 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂

    Healing prayers for Aaron Brown.

  47. Manoa Mist September 15, 2010 8:45 am

    Sorry Mr. Manoa but I don’t endorse the “woe is me we’re headed for doom” argument for independence in football.

    Stephen is right. You need a plan, you need commitments and things need to be well thought out. And yes it may well cost more but UH football is going to cost more going forward whether the school is in a conference or independent. I believe it was Mortimer who stopped the travel subsidy game and perhaps if he hadn’t done that UH might be in the Mountain West right now.

    Success comes in cans, not in can’ts.

    You can give me a list of things you need to be successful like Von Appen did, or you can take what you have and still be successful like June Jones did.

    June was one of the only out of the box thinkers I’ve seen at UH. And he wanted UH to go independent.

    It can be done. “It’s challenging but not impossible,” a direct quote from JD.

    If the alternative is playing UT-San Antonio on a yearly basis, I say let’s make it happen.

    I do enjoy listening to the pro and con arguments though and I respect everyone’s opinion on this. Again, this needs to be well thought out so let’s keep those arguments coming.

  48. RedZone September 15, 2010 8:56 am

    Commitments don’t seem to mean much these days.

  49. Markazulu September 15, 2010 8:57 am

    As fans what u can do is support the team. Let the Athletic directors do there job. U can offer a few tips here an there but they really are the one’s who have a insiders knowledge to what is going on at the University. The Football team as well as the other sports just have to focus on Winning the games, play your hearts out an be respectful, It’s simple you win games the Fans come out. Even if some are “Bandwaggon” fans if u wanna sell out Aloha stadium just keep winning.

  50. LizKauai m/ September 15, 2010 9:03 am

    #18- awww. I think Homey would have made the play – he got gunz…

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

  51. 99club September 15, 2010 9:04 am

    Good morning/afternoon Tsaikos. Listed below are the out-of-conference games we have scheduled through 2019. After Nevada, Fresno, and Boise are gone for good beginning at least in 2012 we’ve got a lot of pukas to fill, with or without WAC teams. Hats off to JD for having the 2011-13 seasons done before the defections.

    9/3/2011 Colorado

    9/10/2011 at Washington

    9/17/2011 at UNLV

    9/242011 UC Davis

    11/26/2011 Tulane

    9/1/2012 at USC

    9/8/2012 at Brigham Young

    9/15/2012 Lamar

    9/22/2012 UNLV

    12/1/2012 Western Kentucky

    8/31/2013 USC

    9/7/2013 at Oregon St.

    9/14/2013 Brigham Young

    11/30/2013 Army

    12/7/2013 Washington

    9/6/2014 Oregon St

    9/20/2014 at Colorado

    12/6/2014 UNLV

    9/5/2015 Colorado

    9/19/2015 at Washington

    10/3/2015 at UNLV

    9/16/2017 at UNLV

    9/8/2018 UNLV

    9/15/2018 at Army

    11/30/2019 Army

  52. SteveM September 15, 2010 9:04 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Bon Voyage to Mrs. Bulla who is leaving today with her DIVAs to gather at Disneyland before jumping on a cruise ship for a 7-day Mexican Riviera cruise. Hope she overcomes her natural shyness and has a good time! 😐

  53. LizKauai m/ September 15, 2010 9:05 am

    Yup- let the players play, let JD and his team do their job and the rest of us can SHOW UP AND CHEER!!!!


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  55. 99club September 15, 2010 9:16 am

    Just realized that Oregon St. asked to be let out of their end-of-season game with us due to the new PAC-12 and the possibility of the championship game conflicting. Looks like the 12/7/2013 Washington game won’t fly for the same reasons. Guess we’ll see.

  56. HawaiiMongoose September 15, 2010 9:21 am

    There won’t be any more late season games with Pac-12 schools or any schools from 12-team conferences for that matter. They won’t come to Honolulu due to the conflict with their conference championship game. Another big obstacle to going indy in football.

  57. Garret September 15, 2010 9:22 am


    U-Dub knows that they need to reschedule the 2013 game, but they may want to have the 2011 game played first (or at least set in stone) before starting the scheduling shuffle.

  58. Garret September 15, 2010 9:23 am


    BYU has the same problem as an independent…ending the year with BYU could work for both schools if UH was independent also.

  59. d1島 September 15, 2010 9:27 am

    Isn’t it quite likely that there will be several other schools nationwide that will end up as “Independent” once more conference dominoes start falling?

  60. Shoko September 15, 2010 9:29 am


    What are the chances, once Texas establishes their own network, they would be willing to go independent?

  61. Ipu Man September 15, 2010 9:29 am

    I think Big 10 teams who probably would never make the

    championship playoffs would LOVE to come to Hawaii in the winter.

    So schedule Indiana, Northwestern, Illinois and __________?

  62. roygbivs[Terence Twk Wong] September 15, 2010 9:33 am

    good day to you’all….

  63. Ipu Man September 15, 2010 9:35 am

    Heck, schedule the cellar dwellers in every BCS

    big conference…we would be their bowl game!

  64. Slugger September 15, 2010 9:47 am


    I thought I heard that we were playing NAU in 2012.

  65. Garret September 15, 2010 9:51 am


    There has been talk about Texas going independent, but if things pan out with the Big 12 then I think that is what they prefer. Texas has an excellent teams in basketball (men and women), baseball, volleyball, etc. and they would love to remain in a conference so geographically suited for them.

    The way the Big 12 is set up, they get higher than SEC-level TV money ($20 million per year) plus they each get to have their own local TV deals or networks. Why go independent when they can have it all within a conference?

  66. HawaiiMongoose September 15, 2010 9:52 am

    Re #47, ten years ago most of us had no interest in watching UH play Boise State. UT San Antonio probably won’t turn into another football powerhouse like the Broncos, but could end up being a pretty good addition to the WAC. It’s in a big city that’s starved for live football; nearly 20,000 people showed up just to watch the Cowboys practice in the AlamoDome. It sits in the heart of Texas recruiting country, has the size and money to fund a big-time athletic program, will play in an NFL-caliber stadium, and aspires to become a rival of UT Austin. Who knows if UT San Antonio can pull it off but look what TCU has done for the MWC.

  67. (Jesse) James September 15, 2010 9:52 am

    Good morning Tsaikos….hope all is well…whew…busy busy day….talk to you guys later..

  68. Garret September 15, 2010 9:53 am

    Kind of related to David Graves’ situation, the QB that started the season for UNLV is now switching to safety.

    “Being on the sideline is not really helpful for the team if I’m a good enough athlete to play another position and help the team in another way,” the 6-foot-2-inch, 220-pound Clausen said.–clausen-switches-from-quarterback-to-safety-102938419.html

  69. HawaiiMongoose September 15, 2010 9:54 am


    I agree that scheduling BYU could solve the end-of-year problem, at least every other year. However that would end if they get into the Big 12 which I think is their likely destination (and possibly sooner rather than later).

  70. Garret September 15, 2010 9:56 am

    Note about David Veikune and the Eagles.

    The Eagles worked out LB David Veikune per Adam Caplan yesterday. Veikune (6’2, 257) was a 2nd round pick of the Browns in 2009. He was cut this summer. Veikune appeared in 10 games last season, but didn’t do much. I liked him quite a bit prior to the ’09 draft. Here is the profile I wrote on him.

    Our interest in him would be as a backup SAM and STer. With Stew’s situation adding a LB might be a good idea. Jamar Chaney and Keenan Clayton don’t look ready to play. Veikune is hardly a 5-time Pro Bowler, but he’s got a year of experience under his belt and there are no questions about his size or raw ability. We had interest in him prior to the draft so this is obviously a player the coaching staff thinks could play in our system.

  71. Garret September 15, 2010 10:03 am


    You are correct that BYU probably will end up in the Big 12…that has been there goal all this time. But when the Big 12 expands then the next round of conference shuffling will probably start and hopefully UH will be in a better position then. UH needs to have positive momentum with wins on the field and upgrades continuing.

    The big question is whether or not UH can best do that as an independent or as part of the WAC. And if the WAC will be alive long enough to keep UH afloat until the conference merry-go-round starts again.

    One thing to note is that if UH got into the MWC it would have to end PPV and its K5/Oceanic deal. So, UH would go from $3 million (K5/Oceanic/PPV/WAC TV) to $1.2 million (MWC).

  72. Garret September 15, 2010 10:04 am

    “their”, not “there” in #71. I shouldn’t post while in a meeting…

  73. USMA BOW FAN September 15, 2010 10:06 am

    Unless many more schools go independent, it will be awfully hard for UH to get conferenced opponents to make the long trip in the middle of the season.

  74. Ipu Man September 15, 2010 10:07 am

    I heard San Antonio is the Venice of Texas…

    Does that mean they have a couple of Ala Wais?

  75. koakane™ September 15, 2010 10:10 am

    howzit howxit tsaiko country, hope all is well with yu’all

    just read pilares volunteering, I applaud his giving all for the team but should keep him healthy and free of any freak boo boo’s. to valuable on offense to experiment. cMack veto veto veto.

  76. andy September 15, 2010 10:10 am

    Seems like your gambling over thier all day or something because your reports are really short and no photos or video or nothing , can we se some info about how their defense is planning on stopping colorado and maybe some pics from the practices!!!!!

  77. HawaiiMongoose September 15, 2010 10:11 am


    LOL. So you do that too? Hard to resist when the meeting is kinda slow and I have my iPhone with me…

  78. NCAA September 15, 2010 10:12 am

    Mr. Ipu Man,

    No, just a sidewalk(s) called the River walk.

  79. Ipu Man September 15, 2010 10:14 am

    watch out for colorado spies…

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  81. Ipu Man September 15, 2010 10:15 am

    Thanks NCAA. I heard stuff like that in the 70’s

    when a lot of locals were investing in real estate thar.

  82. NCAA September 15, 2010 10:16 am

    BTW, it’s not a couple of Ala Wai’s, only one San Antonio River.

  83. Manoa September 15, 2010 10:19 am

    Not saying we cannot go independent, but it will be way worse than what we have now (before Fresno and Nevada leave). Therefore, if we had a choice we would not go independent.

    So if our only choice is being independent, it will be worse than we have today and will gradually get even worse as long as we cannot get into a conference. All the best teams will be in conferences for a reason.

  84. NCAA September 15, 2010 10:23 am

    Practice should be over by now.

  85. koakane™ September 15, 2010 10:24 am

    Au’wryte a few of the tsaikos are getting together to view the game. So sending this out. If you are looking for some tsaiko fun, friends, family, fuud to go along with warrior football …… here it is.

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    Fudd: A breakfast buffet is being planned and will be out on thursday. Will send out more info like cost and the menu latter. Pending who attends so they can plan accordingly.

    Hope you can be there.

  86. SteveM September 15, 2010 10:25 am

    andy — Welcome to the blog! Maybe you missed last month when there was much debate about providing inside info the opposing teams could use. At that time photos were banned from practice (ala WW II espionage), and other “security” measures enacted. Our blog host (and other media people) must exercise considerable discretion in what is reported or shown.

  87. BleedGreen808 September 15, 2010 10:35 am

    Good morning, all!

    All the independent schools should form their own conference or pledge to play one another if the other school(s) aren’t ale to complete their schedule.

  88. BleedGreen808 September 15, 2010 10:42 am


    What is Catabayao’s?

  89. Shoko September 15, 2010 10:45 am


    Good point on #65. Just wanted your opinion on the subject. Mahalo.

  90. Garret September 15, 2010 10:46 am

    Not saying we cannot go independent, but it will be way worse than what we have now (before Fresno and Nevada leave).

    BSU, Freno State, and Nevada are leaving the WAC…the WAC is going to be *way* worse than what UH has now. That is reality. The WAC’s TV money is going to drop significantly and ESPN will be showing BYU games in time slots that they show WAC games now.

  91. d1島 September 15, 2010 10:52 am


    River Walk is great…especially because of Dick’s! 😉

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    Mr. BleedGreen808,

    Maybe he meant carabao?

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  97. madeinhawaii September 15, 2010 11:16 am


    Problem with all the independents coming together as a conference are many…

    To name a few…

    1) They don’t want to share their TV monies.

    2) 3 of 4 are in the Eastern half of the US

    3) There are currently only 4… BYU.. Notre Dame…Army … Navy

    FBS Schools that went independent since Div I was formed in 1978 and then dropped their football program..

    Cal State Fullerton

    Long Beach State

    Wichita State

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  102. madeinhawaii September 15, 2010 11:28 am

    Of the three Division I football schools that dropped football.. only Cal State Fullerton has been trying to resurrect their football program, albeit Div II. Unfortunately, they have been trying since 1995 without success.

    If we snooze… we lose. Hawaii can’t afford to be lax or we may lose college football in the islands, forever.

  103. gigi-hawaii September 15, 2010 11:30 am


    I didn’t realize there are only 4 football teams that are independent.

  104. gigi-hawaii September 15, 2010 11:32 am

    Wonder if any of those 4 regret going independent. Financially feasible for UH to go the same route?

  105. NCAA September 15, 2010 11:38 am

    Ms gigi-hawaii,

    Those 4 independent schools have big time tv contracts, fan base, viewership, tradition (BYU the least), and contacts.

  106. madeinhawaii September 15, 2010 11:39 am


    I believe Army and Navy prefer independence as it allows them to play all around the country — which is their recruiting base. Notre Dame has the TV contracts and just about every team in the US wants to play them.

    BYU will soon find out.

  107. NCAA September 15, 2010 11:44 am

    Throughout the years there were many other independent teams that are now affiliated with conferences. Miami, Florida St., Penn St, Air Force, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, and so on.

  108. Bulla September 15, 2010 11:45 am


    Kama great seeing you this morning 🙂

  109. jm2375 September 15, 2010 11:46 am

    Good morning Tsai-kos!!

    UH vs Army game replayed 8 more times between today and Sat on CBS College Sports. Garret’s right, they need more programming!

  110. jm2375 September 15, 2010 11:49 am

    when is the replay of the CSU game gonna be shown? Sunday morning as usual?

  111. Kazz (click to support UH softball) September 15, 2010 11:51 am


    Might be on Oc16.

  112. Garret September 15, 2010 11:53 am


    The schools that you listed that dropped football after going independent were in most cases planning to drop football *before* they went independent. Here is an article about Long Beach’s football program the year before they dropped football:

    The players are awful, and few people on campus even care. Suzanne Wurzer, the athletic department’s academic adviser, says, “There’s an attitude of acceptance toward football here, not importance.”

    Long Beach State’s average home attendance last season was 2,650. Advance ticket sales to students for the 1989 Utah State game numbered four. This is not a typographical error. Four. A total of 246 students out of an enrollment of 32,875 showed up. Last year, boosters were invited to fly on the team plane to the Boise State game for a low, all-inclusive package price of $200. Two went. This is not a typographical error, either.

    When Allen first arrived, he discovered that the school owned eight footballs. Eight. This is not a typographical error. He promptly bought three dozen more. He went out to take a look at the practice field and people were playing golf on it. Toilet seats were missing.

  113. jm2375 September 15, 2010 11:56 am

    Kazz – greeeeaaat, no Oceanic for me. oh well.

  114. Garret September 15, 2010 11:59 am

    Cal State Fullerton was an independent for 1 year and then dropped football in 1992. Their Academic Senate had already voted 24-7 to disband the football program in the late 1980s.

    In other words, we cannot draw any conclusions from Long Beach State and Cal State Fullerton as to how it would apply to UH’s situation.

  115. Garret September 15, 2010 12:00 pm


    CBS College Sports basically shows the same 4 shows all week long…and JJ’s show is one of them. They sure need inventory!

  116. HawaiiMongoose September 15, 2010 12:07 pm

    The bottom line on going independent in football is that it’s a gamble. It might be better for UH than staying in a watered-down WAC. It might bring in more TV dollars, make UH more attractive to recruits and better position UH to join a more stable conference down the road. However, all that depends on whether the scheduling obstacles others have enumerated can be overcome. If UH can’t make the schedule work, there will be no going back to the WAC, and the football program will be at genuine risk of extinction.

    BYU has an advantage that UH doesn’t have: a safety net. If its independence experiment fails, it can just swallow its pride and go back to the MWC. In the unlikely event the MWC won’t accept BYU, some other conference will. However if UH tries independence and fails, the game will be over.

  117. LizKauai m/ September 15, 2010 12:17 pm

    jm2375- oldie subscription? I don’t see it on Dish

  118. TYaiea September 15, 2010 12:20 pm

    bj808, believe koakane’s “catabayaos” is fun spelling of “carabaos” or “water buffalos” that were used by farmers in old Hawaii. Imua Na Koa.

  119. jm2375 September 15, 2010 12:24 pm

    Liz – go to Dish site and click on Game Finder in the Quick Links box on the home page. Enter your zip code and select Football. Shows games for Wed – Sun.

  120. jm2375 September 15, 2010 12:26 pm

    don’t see any games on KFVE on Sunday. damn.

  121. Committed Road Warrior September 15, 2010 12:39 pm

    Question for folks going to Boulder for the game this Saturday:

    Are there any plans for a Saturday-morning Breakfast Call, or is everyone attending the UHAA pre-game function near campus?

    Just asking. Don’t want to take the lead on this, since this will be my first time in the area, so I really wouldn’t know where to start looking.

  122. Manoa September 15, 2010 12:40 pm

    Besides the scheduling, the other two issues will be finances and recruiting.

    The gap between our budget and the budget of teams in conferences will widen and this will make a difference in on-field performance. Teams like Utah, Colorado, Oregon State, Cal, Boise, Nevada, and Fresno, have the potential to build bigger programs because they will be on better financial footing in their conferences.

    Starting from today, the uncertainty of conference affiliation, schedules, rivalries, and the long term outlook, make the best players seek out the most stable conferences– even the ones that might have considered the opportunities in a non-AQ conference will now turn away. The small independents like us will be pushed down the list.

  123. mctruck September 15, 2010 12:41 pm

    Has there been any feed back from UH asking Senator Inouye’s helping the football program?, or was that request for the athletic department as a whole?

  124. mctruck September 15, 2010 12:43 pm

    I read about Senator Inouye directing monies roward UH just recently…was that it?

  125. mctruck September 15, 2010 12:43 pm


  126. madeinhawaii September 15, 2010 12:47 pm

    magdarang ang carabaos!

    or as my son might say…

    CHARSIU ’em!

  127. HawaiiMongoose September 15, 2010 12:47 pm

    It seems the UTSA athletic director and football coach met with Karl Benson today.

    No announcements are imminent but information is being exchanged.

  128. LizKauai m/ September 15, 2010 12:52 pm


    My WB lurker friends were in a car accident in Houston yesterday.

    31 year old Gavin died instantly and his dad Roger- longtime friend from Lanai is in ICU.


  129. Kekoa September 15, 2010 12:54 pm

    G’day Tsaiko Nation ~ 😎

    Filtering out information so that we get just enuff to whet our appetite is the narrow line that the Blogmeister must walk.

    If speculation was AAC Concrete, we’d have enuff from this blog to build the H-4 to America!

  130. Committed Road Warrior September 15, 2010 12:55 pm

    99club #51:

    On your list of OOC games, I think you gotta add a home game with BYU for the 2011 season, given that the WAC has us as one of the 5 teams providing BYU with games for that year.

  131. Garret September 15, 2010 12:56 pm

    Al’s little birdie was correct and the previously published reports from San Antonio were off. It is no surprise that La Tech is happy about the prospect of the WAC adding UT-SA.

    “Having a school like Texas-San Antonio would really help us,” he said. “We love it because they’re in the Central Time Zone, and we recruit to Texas. We haven’t gotten to that point (where an invitation is in serious discussion). We’re still collecting information and we’ve got some time. I think it would be a nice fit for them. We’ll see what happens.”

  132. Kekoa September 15, 2010 12:56 pm

    Tragic News Liz. Prayers to the Ohana.

  133. Garret September 15, 2010 12:58 pm


    The game with BYU in 2011 has already been announced. However, I believe that the date has not because of the uncertainty over the schedule.

  134. mctruck September 15, 2010 1:00 pm

    Scrolling ahead to Saturday’s football schedule; where I live in east-Texas…what is this?…(FCS/ch.623)at 2:30pm, looks like the UH/Colorado game will be televised live?, so I’ve got this buggah programed to tape job. If not, I hope all systems go to watch…fingers crossed.

  135. mctruck September 15, 2010 1:03 pm


    I hear u and will do.

  136. mctruck September 15, 2010 1:06 pm

    My, #134…..via Directv.

  137. ballpicker September 15, 2010 1:09 pm

    I’m kinda agreeing with # 76 bout the coverage.

    No pics, no commentary, no involvement in the discussion. Mmmmmm…… must be fun there in “Sin City”. Boy for his sake he better be working, otherwise I’ll just call that …. Citin an Countin worker effort.

    Come on know, throw us a bone know and then. Dinners drive inns and dives, traffic jam, motor vehicle accidents, mountains, Freemont Experience, crap table people, the fountains of Bellagio, winning $ 4000 on video poker, oooh football players.

    I’m kidding of course but we need your eyes so we can be connected.

  138. Committed Road Warrior September 15, 2010 1:13 pm

    Garret — Right, of course, on BYU. The 2011 BYU date will also be dependent on how the Fresno/Nevada thingy winds up.

    Regarding UT-SA, it looks like they’ve been aggressive on the OOC scheduling front, and have secured some 2-for-1 deals with some BCS teams from 2013 on. See their OOC to-date:

    UTSA Out-of-Conference Schedule

    2013: @ Arizona, vs. Houston, @ Kansas State, @ Virginia

    2014: @ Houston, vs. Arizona, vs. Virginia

    2015: @ Arizona, vs. Kansas State, vs. Colorado State, @ La. Tech

    2016: vs. Arizona State, @ Colorado State, vs. La. Tech

    2017: @ Baylor, @ Colorado State

    2018: @ Arizona State, vs. Baylor, @ Kansas State, vs. Colorado State

    2019: @ Baylor

  139. gigi-hawaii September 15, 2010 1:14 pm


    prayers to your friends and family!

  140. d1島 September 15, 2010 1:26 pm

    Healing thoughts for Roger and Peace for Gavin.

    God Bless.

  141. al September 15, 2010 1:27 pm

    my heartfelt condolences to young gavin’s ohana. prayers of healing for roger.

  142. Committed Road Warrior September 15, 2010 1:30 pm

    Perhaps this is an error, but I see that Oceanic is gonna sell the live streaming feed for the Fresno State game (in Fresno) online, similar to how they’ve done it for UH home games the past few years:

  143. Cheyah! September 15, 2010 1:31 pm

    Watching The Coach Mack Show on FCSP here in Cali. Gotta get my Warrior fix because the week is dragging!

    Go Warriors! Beat Colorado!

  144. Committed Road Warrior September 15, 2010 1:33 pm


    Condolences to Gavin and his family. Hope Roger heals and can make a full recovery.

  145. Slugger September 15, 2010 1:34 pm

    Prayers for Roger, Gavin & their ‘ohana. So sorry to hear about Gavin leaving us so soon.

  146. Slugger September 15, 2010 1:38 pm

    Oceanic channel 245, FCSC, is showing The Coach Mack Show several times through Saturday. According to the online schedule for Oceanic, they are replaying the UH-Colorado game on Saturday on 245 & 255.

  147. Da Punchbowl Kid September 15, 2010 1:39 pm

    Liz –

    Prayers for the Ohana, Liz!

  148. (Jesse) James September 15, 2010 1:42 pm

    Liz K…prayers for Roger, Gavin, and their families…God Bless….

  149. Slugger September 15, 2010 1:43 pm


    That online feed is how many of the players’ ‘ohana get to watch their kid play.


  150. madeinhawaii September 15, 2010 1:44 pm

    Where are the officials for the Colorado game coming from?

  151. HawaiianTime September 15, 2010 1:46 pm

    Temps in Vegas, 95 yesterday, currently 99. Watching the game via the internet. Liz has websites if need.

  152. Garret September 15, 2010 1:52 pm

    Nice photo and article about RGM.

    “He has an explosive burst to him and I think he gives you, as he gets familiar with things, a real threat in a return game,” Riders’ special teams co-ordinator Jim Daley told the media on Wednesday.

    Riders defensive back Lance Frazier is confident in Grice-Mullen’s abilities, especially his speed in the return game.

    “He makes an impact on special teams, which we really need,” Frazier told the media. “He’s replacing a guy who was supposed to be the guy (Dominique Dorsey), so I’m sure he has something to prove.

    “He’s a threat and he can blow the top off the defence.”

  153. Committed Road Warrior September 15, 2010 1:52 pm

    madeinhawaii #151:

    I would think that Big-12 refs would be officiating this game…just my thought. Was it WAC refs who did the USC game?

    Oh, and if you wanted to know, the Army game was done my an ACC officiating crew.

  154. Committed Road Warrior September 15, 2010 1:53 pm

    “my” = by

    Can’t type. Argh!

  155. don weir September 15, 2010 2:03 pm

    Warrior Fans in CO

    See you at the UHAA tailgate.

    Please come up and we’ll do the intros to FB Alums just like we did at West Point. Many of the UH Football Alum Honolulu Stadium survivors will be there.

    We look forward to seeing you.

    If we’ve never met look the for tall haole guy with the white hair wearing a UH Football Alumni shirt.

  156. wafan September 15, 2010 2:17 pm

    Prayers for Gavin, Roger and the family.

  157. Hawaiianbod September 15, 2010 2:23 pm

    Rest In Peace Gavin.

    Healing Prayers for Roger.

    Love and Support for the Ohana,

    God Bless.

  158. duffer September 15, 2010 2:46 pm

    @Don Weir

    Sent a email re display to you last week sometime

  159. 4UH September 15, 2010 2:56 pm

    Hey Warrior fans going to CO:

    HELP! (I hope it is appropriate to ask this on the Blog… ) We are new to the UH family this year, and our son is a freshman on the team, ~ but not on the travel squad. We have 5 family members that live in Colorado Springs, and even though he didn’t make the travel team, they just decided they would still like to go to the game in Boulder and cheer his teammates on! They would like to sit with the Warrior fans… Do any of you out there have access to 5 tickets? …or any leads? …or do I tell them to buy from CO.?

    Stephen~ We enjoy your blog. It was great to meet you after the saturday practice after the USC game. We look forward to our future at UH!

    Go Warriors!

  160. Ralph September 15, 2010 2:57 pm

    Duffer call Whitey Iowa State is on tv ESPNU 219 in wvb vs. Nebraska. 1-1 after 2 sets.

  161. Tiff September 15, 2010 3:01 pm

    my brother, Tyler Hadden, Fr. Kicker, is on the team, and I as well as my sister live in CO. We are looking for 4 or 5 tickets to the game this weekend. Any ideas other than paying full price at the game? I would appreciate your help.

  162. chawan_cut September 15, 2010 3:06 pm


    I think your son would’ve been able to get tickets thru UH and the team, but its probably too late for that.

    We got our regular visitor tickets thru the UH ticket office and the Hawaii section is in 102.

    I just checked CU’s site, and they still have tickets for Saturday’s game. They could probably order online or call them to see if they could get as close to 102 as possible.

  163. Aloha Oe September 15, 2010 3:07 pm


    Welcome to Warrior Beat & the Warrior Ohana!

    Wish i could help you, but someone else might be able to assist you. Don Weir?

    Does UH allocate comp tickets to players to distribute to their family members?

    Good luck to your son.

    btw, if you care to share, who is your son?


  164. LizKauai m/ September 15, 2010 3:11 pm

    Mahalo, everyone!

    Good News from fb:

    Adam Leonard: I always knew, but I just got the official word from my university saying I am a college graduate!!! God is too good! I graduated college, and I am playing professional football! I can wait for what God has next for me because I know whatever it is, it would be on his time! 🙂

  165. LizKauai m/ September 15, 2010 3:14 pm

    Welcome to the blog, Warrior family members!

    Hope you get your tickets near/in the GREEN section!


  166. Aloha Oe September 15, 2010 3:14 pm


    Hope you folks are successful in obtaining tickets.

    Looking forward to Tyler’s career at UH.

    Mahalo to Tyler and your Ohana for choosing UH. Much success as a student-athlete,


  167. BleedGreen808 September 15, 2010 3:15 pm


    I thought that is what he meant.


    lol…I am a youngion so don’t know much of my elderly’s pidgin 🙂




    Thanks for the history.

  168. 4UH September 15, 2010 3:18 pm

    Thanks, Aloha Oe and Chawan! He was not able to get allocated tickets because he doesn’t travel… I think??? But his sisters and friends just decided to try to go to the game anyhow since it is just a couple hours(?) drive away from them. They have their UH shirts ready to go! 🙂

    …and my son is Hadden.

  169. Aloha Oe September 15, 2010 3:21 pm

    Coach Miano, on the Sports Animals, stated that ‘the doctor’s prognosis of 8-12 weeks for Spencer Smith recovery is conservative. If he isn’t able to play, Smith would be a good coach on the field’

  170. BleedGreen808 September 15, 2010 3:24 pm

    Changing the subject, what is going on with recruiting? Did all the recruits shy away from the recent development of the WAC? Sorry, if this already has been discussed in previous thread(s). Just got back home, so trying to catch up with football.

  171. Committed Road Warrior September 15, 2010 3:25 pm


    The main Hawai’i sections at Folsom Field are 2, 3, 101, and 102…all of which are in the North Endzone.

    Some bloke on StubHub has 20+ tickets in Section 2 and are selling them for $22/each.

    If you’re just looking for tickets period, Colorado is still selling tickets for the game for as low as 4 for $60, albeit those tickets are in the south endzone.

    There were still 10,000 tickets left for Saturday’s game as of earlier this week. All indications point to an anticipated turnout of about 45,000…a bit short of the 53,000 capacity of Folsom Field.

  172. Aloha Oe September 15, 2010 3:25 pm


    Hope everything works out.

    Go Tyler!


  173. Aloha Oe September 15, 2010 3:27 pm

    please excuse #173


  174. 4UH September 15, 2010 3:31 pm

    Mahalo to all!

    Looks like my daughter made a blog request from Colorado as well. We’ll take all the leads and pray something works out!


  175. d1島 September 15, 2010 4:07 pm

    Welcome 4UH and Tiff. Best wishes to Tyler.

  176. CoolEthan September 15, 2010 4:07 pm


    You’ll be there watching the game. Tix before or after showing up, it’s all avail. This game is not a sellout. Try the endzone seats that are separated from the horshoe. usually goes for around $10.

    Buff fans are getting dis-enchanted week by week.

  177. Ipu Man September 15, 2010 4:24 pm

    Wonder if Strong Safety Spencer Smith could play with

    a cast on his arm? I remember seeing linemen wearing them

    and using them as weapons not so long ago…

    Even Tim Tebow finished the 2008 season in Florida with a soft cast on the hand he broke in a game.

  178. Ralph September 15, 2010 4:25 pm

    K State playing Iowa State at Arrowhead stadium, neutral field for bigger bucks. Tickets going for 60. 80 and 100. A full house will go a long way in helping both programs. UH got to follow Garret’s suggestion an play in neutral California, larger venue than Las Vegas Boyd Stadium.

  179. CoolEthan September 15, 2010 4:27 pm


    Spencers break involved pins to help reset the bone after resetting and casting.

    Not worth the risk.

    Let him heel and see how he feels towards the end of the season.

    A medical redhirt should be in the works.

  180. Ipu Man September 15, 2010 4:30 pm

    Cool, Ethan. Thanks.

  181. CoolEthan September 15, 2010 5:06 pm


    “Fire Coach Hawkins” petition online.

  182. CoolEthan September 15, 2010 5:06 pm

    No worries Ipu.

    Sounds serious.

  183. warriorfan44 September 15, 2010 5:11 pm

    4UH – have your son contact one of the players who did make the travel squad and did not use their 4 ticket allotment. there are usually some available through the players. those arrangements need to be made in advance. 1-2 days in advance.

  184. al September 15, 2010 5:13 pm

    medical redshirt alert…

    as tsai said earlier spencer smith is not eligible for a medical hardship/redshirt because he took a regular redshirt his first year and was not due to medical issues.

    ” On rare occasions, a player may be allowed to play in his or her sixth year of college if he or she suffered a serious injury which kept him or her from playing for more than one season.”

  185. Buffoman September 15, 2010 5:14 pm

    Let’s have some controversy. Given all of the optimism by the posting of scores for the game. I wonder what the comments would be should (heaven forbid, given the scores) we loose and loose badly. Would it be moral victory in the loss, the altitude got to the team, great against a certain level but not against the “big boys”, too early to speculate, but hey, there are two sides to a coin.

  186. Garret September 15, 2010 5:18 pm


    It doesn’t sound like Spencer is eligible for a medical redshirt because that only applies if he misses 2 years due to injury…and this is his first injury year.

  187. madeinhawaii September 15, 2010 5:19 pm


    I’ll start…

    Officiating sucked.. !

  188. Garret September 15, 2010 5:20 pm

    I was going to suggest that Tyler’s family have Tyler talk with his teammates, but I see that warriorfan44 suggested that. The player allocation is often not used up, especially when UH is not playing in California or Vegas, so Tyler’s family should be able to sit with the other players’ families.

  189. Garret September 15, 2010 5:24 pm


    I’m not sure that I’d classify Colorado as one of the “big boys”…they are one of the worst teams in an AQ conference. If this game was being held in Hawaii I think UH would be favored, but Colorado does have a big home field advantage.

    Last I checked there was a big Hawaii club in Colorado (I had a friend go there and I visited the campus twice)…I wonder if some of those students would cheer for UH?

  190. Buffoman September 15, 2010 5:29 pm


    I know that at this time they are as you describe, but I’m certain that the BCS folks would classify CU as the bottom of the “big boy” (BCS) teams and would attempt to lower the WAC and UH, guilt by association, to a new standard of low.

    MIH…Good one!

  191. Kazz (click to support UH softball) September 15, 2010 5:29 pm

    Score often…

    If we can rack up 35+ points in the first half while holding Colorado to anything less than 14, we get chance to come home 2-1.

  192. Kazz (click to support UH softball) September 15, 2010 5:31 pm


    September 15th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Last I checked there was a big Hawaii club in Colorado (I had a friend go there and I visited the campus twice)…I wonder if some of those students would cheer for UH?

    Considering the reported “morale” up there, I bet they would.

  193. Pomai September 15, 2010 5:32 pm

    UH vs Colorado

    24    –    42    WenatcheeWarrior

    24    –    21    OldDiver

    24    –    27    NCAA

    27    –    20    RedZone

    28    –    7    tom mui

    28    –    14    J-FORCE

    30    –    21    HNL

    30    –    17    Kev-1

    31    –    17    A-joe

    31    –    28    MP

    31    –    14    gmahoney

    31    –    23    koakane

    34    –    24    Hiflyer

    34    –    31    Pride

    34    –    24    Shannon

    34    –    17    djmitcho

    34    –    28    papajoe2

    34    –    33    808ike

    34    –    21    Tyaiea

    35    –    17    Pomai

    35    –    14    gigi

    35    –    24    LizKauai

    37    –    31    Michigan Warrior

    38    –    21    wafan

    38    –    35    Curt

    38    –    28    Kaz

    38    –    14    MR. GIGI

    38    –    17    protector

    40    –    37    ballpicker

    41    –    28    Aloha Oe

    41    –    31    chopsueyboy

    42    –    14    DPK

    42    –    13    greenthumb

    42    –    31    Glenn

    45    –    21    madeinhawaii

    45    –    24    99club

    45    –    35    al

    49    –    28    Tchahng

    49    –    45    Bigislandkurt

    52    –    28    bighilofan2

    52    –    44    HAWNSTLN

    56    –    14    d1

    76    –    36    Ipu Man

  194. Slugger September 15, 2010 5:48 pm

    Garret & Kazz,

    Kids in the Hawaiian clubs usually root for Hawaii teams. When the UH soccer team went to NAU, we all sat together and cheered for UH.

    In 2007, I drove a carfull of students to LV for the game. A bunch of them stayed at our empty house in LV and met other NAU students & their friends from Hawaii at UNLV. They all rooted for UH.

  195. Monte Bodenhagen September 15, 2010 5:48 pm

    Sup, just found you through AOL. The site looks super and i’ll be sure to come back occassionally.

  196. Slugger September 15, 2010 5:52 pm


    If you need tickets, try contacting Don Wier, UH Letterwinners Club, or Derek Inouchi, Athletic dept. Media guy. They might be able to figure out if any of the players have extra tickets available in their allotment, or have a way to get your daughter tickets. at

    or inouchi at

  197. al September 15, 2010 5:56 pm

    please be careful of how you folks are recommending that tyler hadden’s family may “procure” tickets to the ball game. there is a fine line between what can be done and what can’t be done.

    i wouldn’t want to see tyler’s heisman trophy stripped away from him.

  198. al September 15, 2010 5:58 pm

    the best way for them to get tickets is to purchase them. (boulder, colorado) has numerous tickets for sale at that website.

  199. madeinhawaii September 15, 2010 6:02 pm

    heads up from sabut in the SH forum.

    Hawy everyone already check out the game day video on the UH website? it’s that small video in the center of the homepage… follows the Warriors on game day against army … before and after the game.

  200. Slugger September 15, 2010 6:04 pm


    I’m sure Derek would know what is permissible under NCAA regs. and he’s close enough to the team to be able to help if players’ tickets are available.

  201. al September 15, 2010 6:07 pm

    trust the little birdie.

  202. Pomai September 15, 2010 6:07 pm

    NCAA regulations permit players to receive a certain amount of tickets to be used by said player for family and friends. So if say Alex Dunnachie decided to give two tickets to his friend Tiff, that is permitted under NCAA regulations.

  203. Ralph September 15, 2010 6:17 pm

    players just can’t sell their ticket allotments, but giving them to family and friends is okay

  204. Mr Know It All September 15, 2010 6:18 pm

    #198 – Please explain.

    We, clueless Warrior fans, want you to inform us with your VAST knowledge.

  205. Mr Know It All September 15, 2010 6:22 pm

    BTW, everyone does NOT have $$$$$ like you and can afford purchasing multiple tickets.

  206. Mr Know It All September 15, 2010 6:24 pm

    I have something for that ‘little birdie’.

    ………… cat!

  207. homey ℞ September 15, 2010 6:31 pm

    #205 – I think what al means is that when someone “procures” tickets from players, the players should not get money, merchandise, or something of high value in return. Something like that.

    MLiz – Prayers and condolences to your friends and their families.

  208. homey ℞ September 15, 2010 6:32 pm

    LOL, and I have something for your cat…my poodles.

  209. homey ℞ September 15, 2010 6:32 pm

    esme…dinner time!

  210. d1島 September 15, 2010 6:50 pm

    Taking this lull in the action to post something on the clubhouse wall….

    442: Live with Honor, Die with Dignity

    One awesome movie!

    If you have an opportunity to see it (limited release), I give a strong recommendation to do so.

    Saw it at Ward Theatres last night, not sure how much longer it will be there.

  211. gigi-hawaii September 15, 2010 6:55 pm


    we can always rent it on netflix. sounds good.

  212. gigi-hawaii September 15, 2010 6:56 pm

    anybody watching Jimmy Johnson on Survivor tonight? Wonder how long he will last. LOL.

  213. SteveM September 15, 2010 6:59 pm

    Reposting a time-sensitive announcement…

    CATTLE CALL — Thursday (tomorrow) at 12:00 noon

    Camellia (McCully)

    Lunch with Rasu Begasu (las vegas)

    RSVP here (for reservation count purposes).

  214. Shoko September 15, 2010 7:01 pm


    Sorry to hear about your friends unfortunate cirmcumstances. God speed in Roger’s recovery and condolences on Gavin’s passing.

    Jimmy Johnson is a tactician. I would be surprised that he didn’t make it at least halfway through the season, if not all they way to the end of the season.

  215. chawan_cut September 15, 2010 7:24 pm



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    My apologies for asking ticket info on the Blog… I guess we all learn by making mistakes. There was no intention to “let a cat out of a bag” or “open a can of worms”. Thanks to those that tried to give helpful suggestions, and if we crossed a boundary or offended anyone, please forgive us. Tyler’s 2 older sisters live in Colorado and just want to support his team. Good night from CA…

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  229. Aloha Oe September 15, 2010 9:04 pm


    No apologies needed.

    No rules were broken nor were any mistakes made.

    Good luck to your daughters in securing tickets.



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    Back from hula class…

    jmxxxx, are you going to the karaoke kall? I might be able to get something to you then…

  236. jm2375 September 15, 2010 9:28 pm

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  238. al September 15, 2010 10:02 pm

    just trying to protect the aina and the ohana. each player is given “x” amount of ticekts. that is no problem. if said players wish to distribute them at no cost to others, that is no problem.. so from player to recipient, no other exchanges other than gratis tickets, that is no problem.

    problem is when friends or family members solicit and/or receive gifts from university boosters. so, procuring tickets from say, don weir, from a family member is technically prohibitied. don weir being a season ticket holder is considered a booster, and yes don does donate annually.

    intent was just to avoid a problem for the university and tyler hadden.

    i understand all this was innocently done and nothing transpired from this. just trying to protect the interests of all.

    sorry, if i ruffled some feathers. but, if you know me that was not my intent.

  239. al September 15, 2010 10:04 pm

    oh, and bring your cat. he can lunch with my three chihuahuas.

  240. Bigislandkurt September 15, 2010 10:14 pm

    I went to college in Colorado. Make no mistake about it, whenever UH came to town (CSU and WYO), all Hawaii folks was rooting for UH. Even if we were CSU or WYO students.


  241. Slugger September 15, 2010 10:17 pm


    I think the problem for Tyler’s family is that he didn’t have tickets since he didn’t travel. That’s why I suggested going to the Athletics office, or seeing if Derek could find out from the other players if they’d give Hadden their unused tickets. Don Weir would just have a way to see if there were tickets to buy through the Alumni Assoc.; he wouldn’t have tickets to give and he knows what not to do. Going to the Athletics office is always a safer route. They SHOULD know.


    See you at the game on Friday with LizKauai.

  242. jm2375 September 15, 2010 10:26 pm

    time for the blog mascot to take me for a walk around the neighborhood.


  243. Koa-mahu September 15, 2010 10:37 pm

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    …..and ur front side, too. 😯


  244. al September 15, 2010 10:40 pm


  245. al September 15, 2010 10:41 pm

    koa-mahu….ummm, errr. thanks eh?

    i think?

    but, won’t ralphie get upset?

  246. Koa-mahu September 15, 2010 10:50 pm

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  247. Slugger September 15, 2010 10:53 pm

    I want to thank all of you Angels for your prayers. My classmate Bryan was moved out of the isolation area; the MRSA “superbug” is under control & he’s actually eating a little. He feels better knowing that people care & were praying for him. Mahalo nui loa! The power of prayer is truly evident in this case.

  248. LizKauai (iPad) September 15, 2010 11:04 pm

    Good news, Slugger!

  249. LizKauai (iPad) September 15, 2010 11:04 pm

    250. God Bless and good night!

  250. al September 15, 2010 11:09 pm

    248. God is good.

  251. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc September 15, 2010 11:59 pm

    Where’s Gary? Perhaps he’ll be available after 10 pm this Saturday.

  252. Hawaiianbod September 16, 2010 12:06 am

    Good News Slugger.

    Thank You Jesus!

    Continued prayers forya Brn – for a full and complete recovery.

    God Bless the doctore, nurses and the entire medical staff.

    Sweet Warrior/Wahine Dreams erryone!


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  254. Aloha Oe September 16, 2010 12:10 am

    re #252 A

    better take ur meds or put on ur glasses (WRONG blog, Aunty).

  255. Pomai September 16, 2010 12:36 am

    #218 4UH

    No apologies needed, no rules were broken mistakes made, please contiue to joining the conversations here on the blog. Hope your daughter has a good time cheering for the Warriors, you should still get a hold of Don Weir as he is setting up the tailgate for the UH fans up there, perhaps your daughters could joiin them and meet some of the past players of UH.

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  258. wafan September 16, 2010 2:48 am

    Good morning!

  259. wafan September 16, 2010 2:49 am

    Another busy day ahead.


  260. wafan September 16, 2010 2:52 am

    Better to err on the safe side with our student-athletes when it comes to NCAA rules and expectations.

  261. Kekoa (iPhone) September 16, 2010 2:59 am

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    Las Vegas Sun has an article on UH practicing at Palo Verde High this week. I didn’t realize that Mack owned 2 homes in Summerlin and plans to retire there…and that he wants UH to spend a week in Summerlin each year during road trips.

    “This is a great situation for us,” Hawaii coach Greg McMackin said. “We have great kids. People think I am crazy for bringing the kids to Vegas, but we’ve had no problems here. There are no distractions. We treat this like a business trip.”

  263. Garret September 16, 2010 3:12 am

    When UH faces Idaho they will need to account for Kama Bailey.

    Running back/returner Kama Bailey, among others, should log more time at slot receiver with Posey out for the season. The junior from Hawaii has proven to be valuable because of his speed and ability to hop between multiple positions.

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    Never received the e-mail you listed

  265. don weir September 16, 2010 3:34 am

    Slugger et al,

    It is now

  266. don weir September 16, 2010 3:51 am

    4UH, Al, et al,

    All of my tickets these days are purchased through the ticket office so they are ‘free and clear’.

    I have a large extended family up here in Boulder/Golden and I am doing a ticket count this morning for them. If I have no shows when I sit down with cousins this morning (in 1/2 hour) I will post. I might add that if I have extra game tickets that means I will have extra tailgate tickets as UHAA is not selling tickets at the door.

    Game tickets cannot be purchased through Media Relations, UHAA, or UHLWC as we all bought our tickets via UH ticket office. The ticket office returned all excess tickets after the purchase deadline date otherwise UHAD would be dinged for the $75 cost per ticket.

    Al is correct in that players cannot sell or trade (or some quid pro quo) their tickets nor can the coaches as they are comp ducats and restricted under NCAA rules. As stated above in the bolg they can be given away.

    I am in Boulder at this time working on the logistics of getting people from hotel to ho’ike, tailgate, game, and post game reception. Former players will be at ho’ike, tailgate and post game reception (St. Juilien Hotel). I invite you to stop by and say hello.

    For any update that I may provide just send me an e-mail or call the cell #.

  267. Garret September 16, 2010 3:51 am

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    “(UTSA) is obviously a school that we’re looking at very, very closely, and are very, very interested in,” Benson said. “The information they provided magnified the assets they have and the commitment they have, and the fact that they are somewhere down the road of becoming a very viable and legitimate member of the BCS.”

    Benson said Texas State athletic director Larry Teis and school president Denise Trauth made a similar presentation about six weeks ago in Denver and would likely be asked to meet again with WAC members on the same day as UTSA. He said he didn’t think the two schools, rival members of the Southland Conference, would either hurt or help the other’s cause.

  268. Garret September 16, 2010 3:53 am

    Only the 2 Texas schools have made presentations to the WAC. The WAC needs to add 2 football-playing schools. Not much effort to read between the lines.

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