Warriors take a break

The combination of a bye week and a holiday gives the Warriors their first weekday day off since the first week of August. It comes right in time for everyone to play the new Call of Duty game.

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Suddenly, wideout Terence Bell, star of the recent scout bowls, is in contention for serious playing time next season. Bell is fast, sure-handed and athletic. He also has the drive to finish plays. What he nearly didn’t have was his nose stud.

The past three years. he has worn a nose stud that resembles a small screw. “It’s a star on the end,” Bell said. “No significance. I like it, and I know a lot of people don’t have it. … The first day (of practice), coach Mouse (Davis) tried to pull it out. That was funny. He didn’t know what it was. He was like, ‘Hey, you have something there. Let me get it out.’ I was like, ‘Ow.'”

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I see dead people?

“Maybe I did die,” quarterback Shane Austin said. “This isn’t me. You’re not really talking to me.”

Austin was recounting the accident the Monday before the Boise State game when his car was struck from behind by a speeding truck on the freeway. His car was totaled, and he was taken by ambulance to the ER as a precaution. He did not miss any practices.

“I played in the Boise game,” Austin said. “Monday, I got in a car wreck. Saturday, I got into a wreck on the blue turf. I’m a little sore, but nothing major. … I’m very fortunate. God is watching over me.”

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Maybe Texas State and Texas-San Antonio do not excite many as new WAC members. Certainly, I hear a lot of barking up the street. But those are two well-financed athletic programs with obvious missions to do well in football. San Antonio is a big city and  a passionate sports town (with a couple of NBA titles).

I know folks say they won’t tolerate — or pay — for watered-down football. But, say, if  UH received its dream invitation from the Mountain West. Remember the old WAC? People were really excited only about playing BYU and, maybe, San Diego State when Marshall Faulk was playing. Even the games against Utah didn’t stir up much enthusiasm. And I don’t recall large walk-ups for New Mexico or Wyoming games. New rivalries can be created (see: Fresno State, Boise State). What’s that old saying? If you can’t have the one you love, love the one you have. 

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. . . On the other hand, losing Montana is not good for the new WAC. Montana would have been another western school.

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We’re giving away a Rainbow Wahine 2010 softball World Series T-shirt. To enter, please post: Bless all veterans. 

Avis Yasumura picks a winner tonight.


  1. Garret November 11, 2010 6:54 am

    An independent auditor’s report listed a $1,612,417 deficit on spending of $29.6 million for fiscal year 2010, which closed June 30, down from $2,632,408 in 2009.

    Athletic director Jim Donovan projected an approximate $800,000 deficit for the 2011 fiscal year, which concludes June 30, 2011, and said, “We believe we can be in the black for (fiscal year 2012) short of any major shock and what happens with the conference situation.”

    This is GREAT news! To be fair, FY2011 includes half a year of the Athletic Fee ($950k) and FY2012 has a full year of the fee ($1.9 million). The big thing is that the deficit was down $1 million between 2009 and 2010.

    One big difference between FY2009 and FY2010 is that JD and the coaches took 7% pay cuts in FY2010. That saved $77k on Mack’s contract and probably several hundred thousand overall. The pay cuts will also be there in FY2011, but they will get full salaries in FY2012.

  2. Garret November 11, 2010 6:55 am

    Players can use the Scout Bowl each year to prove themselves and earn chances at playing time in future years. It is great that Bell did that.

  3. bighilofan2 November 11, 2010 7:00 am

    Glad we got athletes feeling good about themselves and not wondering if the ama is gonna fall off, like Auburn, BCS and SEC West.

  4. chopsueyboy November 11, 2010 7:01 am

    Good Morning Tsai-kos!

    Happy Veteran’s Day!

  5. Stephen Tsai November 11, 2010 7:03 am

    Great point on the salary cuts, Garret.

    They are “voluntary” and set to expire at the end of June.

    They also might be offset by the bowl bonuses that the coaches will receive, although I’m not sure if that, in turn, will be offset by the bowl payout.

  6. chopsueyboy November 11, 2010 7:03 am

    Bless all the veterans!

  7. bighilofan2 November 11, 2010 7:03 am

    an… an…

    Bless alla me… 😀

  8. Stephen Tsai November 11, 2010 7:04 am

    UH should be helped that Fresno and Nevada will remain in the league for another year. That shouldn’t alter, too much, the ESPN contract with the WAC, especially if the WAC agrees to replace the loss of Boise with more weeknight games.

  9. bighilofan2 November 11, 2010 7:07 am

    Good morning ST.

    Bless all Veterans.

  10. Stephen Tsai November 11, 2010 7:07 am

    I was somewhat disappointed in the Scout Bowl crowd.

    There were less than 10, including myki, sjmacro, Elliott Purcell’s girfrliend and son, and another player’s wife and son.

  11. Stephen Tsai November 11, 2010 7:07 am

    Morning bighilo

  12. bighilofan2 November 11, 2010 7:07 am

    Okay, gotta go.

    hi ho hi ho.

    esme wooshhhh>>>.,,,,,,………..

  13. bighilofan2 November 11, 2010 7:11 am

    butt first.,,<<<

    da Good nEWS……….

    gots to come Hnl 11/19… so

    gonna make it to da Tgate, and game 11/20…..

    cuz, get ready…. cuz here i cum….

    woootaaah !!!

    Go Warriors!!!!

  14. bighilofan2 November 11, 2010 7:12 am


    good morning… see you next weekend…

  15. Shoko November 11, 2010 7:13 am

    Morning folks!

    Good to hear about the deficit reduction. I seem to remember the spending total was just a tad over 30 million 2009 FY, if not mistaken.

    On another note, a salute to all veterans and thank them for their service to our country.

  16. Kazz blogging via DROID X November 11, 2010 7:16 am


  17. Support Rainbow Wahine Softball November 11, 2010 7:21 am

    The trimming of the budget is GREAT news indeed.

    Props to Jim Donovan, the associate ADs, the support staff in the department, and all those that took the initiative of paycuts during this tough economic period.

    In the end, the student athletes benefit as they continue to be serviced by the university as usual due to the sacrifices of the people I mentioned.

  18. wafan November 11, 2010 7:21 am

    Good morning, everyone!

    And all good Americans should ask for their God to BLESS ALL VETERANS!


  19. Da Punchbowl Kid November 11, 2010 7:22 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂

    Love the One You’re With

    by Stephen Stills

    If you’re down and confused, and you don’t remember who you’re talkin’ to.

    Concentration slip away, ‘cause your baby is so far away.

    Well there’s a rose in the fisted glove and the eagle flies with the dove,

    and if you can’t be with the one you love, honey, love the one you’re with,

    love the one you’re with, love the one you’re with, love the one you’re with.

    Don’t be angry, don’t be sad, and don’t sit cryin’ over good times you’ve had.

    There’s a girl right next to you, and she’s just waitin’ for something to do.

    And there’s a rose in the fisted glove and the eagle flies with the dove,

    and if you can’t be with the one you love, honey, love the one you’re with,

    love the one you’re with, love the one you’re with, love the one you’re with.

  20. Michigan Warrior November 11, 2010 7:25 am

    Bless all veterans!

  21. wafan November 11, 2010 7:26 am

    Great leaders always set the example for others to follow. Why follow those who are not willing to make a sacrifice?

    Way to go JD!!!

  22. gmahoney November 11, 2010 7:26 am

    Thanks, DPK, I was looking up those lyrics.

    Bless all veterans.

  23. Da Punchbowl Kid November 11, 2010 7:28 am

    Good job, Mr. Donovan! You still need to find a positon for Slugger. Make her an offer. 🙂

  24. Da Punchbowl Kid November 11, 2010 7:30 am

    Bless all veterans!

  25. Da Punchbowl Kid November 11, 2010 7:31 am

    Morning gmahoney!

  26. Buffoman November 11, 2010 7:31 am

    So with the re-organized WAC in place are the following elements set:

    1. A standardized set of By-laws

    2. A rock solid exit fee schedule

    3. A process to set in motion a marketing strategy to heighten the strength of the WAC as perception is at a laughable, disrespectful low.

    Are these public documents or for their eyes only?

  27. Pomai November 11, 2010 7:31 am

    #10 ST maybe they should have made more of a point to let people know when it was. From what I saw you where the only one who mentioned it.

  28. dennis halloran November 11, 2010 7:32 am

    Kudos to our vets. My brothers and I gave ten years among us and we were all better for the service.

    Interesting point on WAC looking at Sac State. Natural double date with SJSU.

    In CA 3 of 10 UC Branches have football.No WAC

    In CA 6 of 23 CSU branches have football When Fresno departs only SJSU will be in WAC

    8 public colleges have dropped football, and look at Texas which is adding several schools a year even Lamar

    Ever notice how Nevada and Boise took off after Long Beach, LA, Fullerton, Chico,Hayward(East Bay), SF all dropped football

    My bet is no move by Montana

    There are enough ball players to go around for the WAC to rise up. Probably 50 JC’s in CA and AZ and Washington and Oregon starting JC football again

  29. Michigan Warrior November 11, 2010 7:34 am

    LOL… I can just imagine Coach Mouse yanking on that nose stud!

    As we wind down this year, I’m really looking forward to news of our future, on and off field.

  30. Michigan Warrior November 11, 2010 7:38 am

    Dennis Halloran makes a good point! There are now less schools competing for the same amount of athletes in California. We gotta make sure these student-athletes have access to us!

    On another note, I’m really looking forward to our possibilities in the Texas market.

    Pretty exciting future for us, I think.

  31. Michigan Warrior November 11, 2010 7:44 am

    Just repeating what I said a couple of hours ago:

    Kinda getting tired of Montana with their “I wonder what our excuse will be this week” approach to the WAC.

    Seems like they might be secretly negotiating with the MWC, instead of taking the long road through the WAC, and the MWC doesn’t want to water down it’s conference and lose it’s bonus multiplier before getting AQ status.

    I mean, c’mon… using the Idaho comparison? Really? Idaho was never as successful in football as Montana has historically been. Montana has the money and support, whereas Idaho has never enjoyed that level of comfort and success. Montana can be the next Boise of the WAC, but it feels like they want to avoid the WAC and get that instant invite to the big party.

    Man, I better find that adult bookstore and buy me some lottery tickets! Our school sure could use the extra money!

  32. James November 11, 2010 7:45 am

    I am a Shane Austin fan. I hope he is ok. Accidents happen. With all the mishaps occurring to him this season, I wonder how he can focus on football. He needs a kahuna to bless him and keep him safe.

    Shane had significant playing time last season and was able to show his stuff. This season with Bryant Moniz doing so well, Shane has not had too many chances to play at the QB position except for mop-up and meaningless situations, plus he is the no. 3 QB. At least number 10 is seeing playing time on special teams.

    I hope he stays prepared because you never know what may happen. You got to be ready when called on. Akua be with you Shane!

  33. HawaiiMongoose November 11, 2010 7:53 am

    It’s official, Montana will NOT be coming to the WAC:



  34. gigi-hawaii November 11, 2010 8:01 am

    Terence Bell

    Shane Austin

    Both sound like Hollywood movie star names!

    Hi everybody!

  35. Hank November 11, 2010 8:02 am

    Good Morning Warrior Nation…

    Rained last night in Hilo…but the sun this morning is smiling on the on the flowers and trees that emanate that scent of paradise.

    It’s going to be a good day.

  36. Last Call November 11, 2010 8:04 am

    Sure glad to see that Montana isn’t coming to the WAC,wise decision.

  37. koakane ip4 November 11, 2010 8:12 am

    howzit and good morning tsaiko country

    first beeg mahalo to all past and present vets who provided this freedom and liberty we now enjoy. may the allmighty bless everyone.

  38. koakane ip4 November 11, 2010 8:15 am

    oh oh bhf2 Oahu alert

    warning will Robinson warning

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  41. Momo November 11, 2010 8:29 am

    Bless all veterans. my time was during the korean war

  42. Rainbow Bozo Warrior November 11, 2010 8:39 am

    Bless all veterans.

  43. Kekoa (iPhone) November 11, 2010 8:42 am

    Bless All Veterans

    Bless all my brothers and sisters who made it home safely into the arms of their creator. They are the ones who left it all out there on the field of battle.

    I salute you.

  44. dennis halloran November 11, 2010 8:43 am

    Smart move Griz

    Montana has great small college football with Carroll winning many National Championships in the last 7 years and the Griz dominating their FCS group/ And MSU is on their way back

    Idaho has learned that it should have stayed Big Sky

    Gosh remember when Idaho was a player with Pacific Coast Conference types

  45. tommui November 11, 2010 8:45 am


    Bless all veterans.

    Bless their sacrifices.

  46. Paco November 11, 2010 8:49 am

    San Antonio is a nice city. San Marcos is between San Antonio and Austin (another nice place) and has one of the best outlet malls (according to my wife). Only outlet I’ve been too with a Victoria’s Secret.

  47. cheepono November 11, 2010 8:54 am

    Bless all veterans.

  48. Last Call November 11, 2010 8:59 am

    Oh yea good malls a great reason to stay in the WAC .

  49. Last Call November 11, 2010 9:00 am

    So how many schools now have said no thanks to Mr. Peanut, I’m losing count.

  50. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 9:12 am

    Besides games in Las Vegas, is there anywhere else that Hawaii Fans would fly to enmasse?

  51. So_Cal Warrior November 11, 2010 9:17 am

    Bless all veterans.

    Go warriors.. thanks for keepin us uppdated ST….

  52. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 9:18 am

    I wonder how the Utah fans feel after they suffered as bad a loss and they were ranked way up there?

  53. Kekoa (iPhone) November 11, 2010 9:22 am

    Paco ~ It sure sounds better than going to Boise or Fresno. Another interesting travel destination for the road warrior Tsaiko’s to visit.

    Football is big in Texas, and they seem to be growing their program to accomodate the talent. The Big Texas schools no longer have room for them, and Hawaii would be a great choice for some.

    I think their fans would enjoy the home ‘n home games.

  54. Last Call November 11, 2010 9:23 am

    Yes, the deciding factor should be who has the best malls.

  55. Last Call November 11, 2010 9:25 am

    Oh and restaurants. Tsaiko’s love to eat .

  56. LizKauai m/ November 11, 2010 9:28 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

    Bless all veterans.

  57. Cheyah! November 11, 2010 9:30 am

    Bless all veterans!

    Bless our Warriors too!

  58. Stephen Tsai November 11, 2010 9:31 am

    Losing Montana is a big loss.

    Maybe there should have been a two-for-one deal with Montana and Montana State.

  59. Stephen Tsai November 11, 2010 9:33 am

    The WAC should target Wyoming.

    What do the Cowboys bring? Well, nothing.

    But they are the weak link in the Mountain West.

    I was watching Law & Order: Los Angeles. The strategy was to target the poorest of the three suspects. Not because the poor are guilty, but because they have the least-expensive lawyers.

  60. al November 11, 2010 9:35 am

    God bless all of our veterans!

    we forget what you all fought for…the preservation of our great nation.

  61. Stretch November 11, 2010 9:35 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!

    Thanks to the past, present and future veterans!!

    Having the Scout Bowl on a work day, especially the morning, is hard to get people to come out. Maybe they should have had an afternoon practice before their few days off??

    Also, I am 100% sure that ST appreciates cities with shopping malls.

  62. al November 11, 2010 9:37 am

    st…i was thinking unlv would be a great get. travel wise, reasonable accomodations, casinos, good restaurants, etc.

    oh, good mbb programs.

  63. SteveM November 11, 2010 9:38 am

    Good morning everyone!

    My salute (hand salute) to the Veterans!

  64. Shoko November 11, 2010 9:38 am

    Rainbow Warriors are favored by 4 points tomorrow night against Montana State. I know its not much, but it seems reasonable considering the ratings. Lets see if the sportsbooks think differently.

  65. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 9:40 am

    I would rather see UNLV in the WAC over Wyoming.. why ? Because Hawaii fans will travel to UNLV… I think a lot of Texas fans would, too.

  66. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 9:41 am

    Boyd Stadium would also be a good “neutral” stadium for any special away game UH might need to arrange.

  67. al November 11, 2010 9:43 am

    like many…i was initially stunned by the mere mention of the texas 2-step entries when first announced. texas-who-you-u i thought.

    but, texas is huge economy and huge on their football. i can see them being the next boise state, both of them, only with better resources. boise st people and coaches did one model exemplary job of going from obscurity to top five nationally.

    given 8-10 years from now, i can see the two texas schools biding there time for higher heights and loftier positions.

  68. al November 11, 2010 9:45 am

    panda travel, boyd group, and the city of las vegas should be smiling now that the texans are on board.

    i can see many of our local fans taking that texas via vegas road trip.

  69. jm2375 November 11, 2010 9:46 am

    Good morning!

    Happy Veteran’s Day!

    Bless all veterans.

  70. A-House November 11, 2010 9:48 am

    Bless all veterans.

  71. al November 11, 2010 9:48 am

    which brings to mind something i’ve always wondered about.

    why doesn’t the travel packages for our road games that include pitstops in las vegas for our two a week travel game intinerary include the ultimate fan’s dream of staying in the same hotel/casino as we do???

    why not let our hawaii contingent rub noses with the team? it would be a great experience for both the team and the fans.

  72. al November 11, 2010 9:49 am

    mr. shouse…btw, the 6’9″, ronnie stevens told dayton he signed and sent in his letter of intent.

  73. A-House November 11, 2010 9:49 am

    Annoddah Dave:

    Did I post earlier that you have great company with Mrs A-House, Midori7 and MasaBoy who concur with you that Galaxy Quest is one of the best made/seen movies. They just love it! Even start to quote the dialog when its showing!!!

  74. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 9:50 am


    BC was saying that there is talk about Hawaii going to the MWC for football only… But I’m thinking, why not simply build the WAC up with the notion of making it an AQ contender rather than a stepping stone? What’s left in the MWC? There is NO Utah.. no BYU… even TCU may be splitting. That leaves… Boise, Nevada, Fresno… (hmmm… deja vue? n’est ce pas? )

  75. Stephen Tsai November 11, 2010 9:51 am


    I think you’re right, especially since Panda stays with the team.

    I will say, though, there’s not much interaction. With all of the meetings, I think we get to see the players maybe an hour a day.

  76. Bowwar November 11, 2010 9:51 am

    Montana is a bunch of panties…The WAC is better off without them…Eastern Washington is a better choice or Portland State.

  77. kruzen November 11, 2010 9:51 am

    According to BC this morning, UH is talking to MWC for football only and the rest of the sports in the Big West Conference.

  78. kruzen November 11, 2010 9:52 am

    sorry, mih already posted.

  79. Bowwar November 11, 2010 9:54 am

    How about talking to the PAC 10 about football only and the rest of the sports in the Big West?

  80. Shoko November 11, 2010 9:55 am

    Don’t know why Montana is a big loss. Sure they have a winning record the past few years. Yet, this year they lost to Cal Poly and E Washington. They never played an FBS school on their schedule the past few years, while their member schools played DI-A schools on a regular basis. Besides, when the Grizzlies played in their own division, it’s not like they were winning by large margins.

    Agree with Al about the potential for those two Texas schools to be the next Boise State. They have the fan base and financial support. Not to mention a better TV market than Montana. Just my opnion… 🙂

  81. Derek November 11, 2010 9:55 am

    Bless All Veterans.

    And bless all those student athletes who signed letter of intent yesterday to go to the University of Hawaii. I was hoping that Micah Christensen would sign w/ Hawaii, but he didn’t.

  82. al November 11, 2010 9:56 am

    mih…i always thought that this would be the final deal with our wac relationship if we get no other invites.

    having the non football sports go to the big west makes sense for all of the wac as well as for hawaii. i heard that this is not something bc just heard of but has been one of jd’s hip pocket stuffers.

    for mbb, wbb, wvb, baseball, this all makes sense competitively as well.

  83. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 10:00 am

    OH, I agree… all non-football sports would be better off in the Big West even if we stay put in the WAC. But I’m not so sure that going to the MWC for football is in Hawaii’s best interest.

  84. al November 11, 2010 10:00 am

    st…since a lot of fans don’t get to be up front and personal with the team even here in hnl, this would make for a great connect with the true fans. the team to would benefit by getting to know the aunties and uncles.

    like the volleyball teams have a personal relationship with the diehard fans, this could be a start for the football team.

    would it be a violation to have a team/fan appreciation dinner at sam’s town or where ever they stay at??? include in the cost of dinner a “nominal donation” via na koa foundation????

    just thinking aloud.

  85. Ronnie November 11, 2010 10:00 am


    November 11th, 2010 at 9:49 am

    Annoddah Dave:

    Did I post earlier that you have great company with Mrs A-House, Midori7 and MasaBoy who concur with you that Galaxy Quest is one of the best made/seen movies. They just love it! Even start to quote the dialog when its showing!!!

    Galaxy Quest is a CLASSIC!!! – especially the ‘expendable crewman’ (“Guy, you have a last name.” “Do I? Do I?!”) 😉

  86. A-House November 11, 2010 10:01 am


    who is Ronnie Stevens?

    same one who did a verbal to Hawaii and all the hoopla of signing early, etc? or, is this aanother guy?

    if one in the same, wonder how Coach Gib feels now!!!!!!!!!

  87. al November 11, 2010 10:02 am

    mih…we would jump at the chance of going to the mwc since the wac is still standing on shaky grounds. not sure if they would want us there, but, perhaps on a part time basis it could work out.

    staying in the wac for football only would work.

  88. A-House November 11, 2010 10:05 am


    was I correct? Christensen going to USC! sitting behind the bench meant nothing, NOTHING!!

  89. al November 11, 2010 10:06 am

    mr. ahouse…where you been?

    ronnie stevens is this guy…


  90. al November 11, 2010 10:08 am

    too bad he opted for the red/yellow. he would have been the crowd favorite.

  91. al November 11, 2010 10:09 am

    btw…mr. ahouse. the boss also adds in extra “a”‘s when she calls out for me. a few more than you did though.


  92. gigi-hawaii November 11, 2010 10:14 am

    A-House — calls his wife MOM

    Al — calls his wife BOSS

    What does ST call his wife?

  93. Stretch November 11, 2010 10:15 am

    #91 – at least the extra “a” isn’t at the end since that’s how she has you…

  94. gigi-hawaii November 11, 2010 10:16 am

    Where does Bobby Curran get his info? From JD?

  95. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 10:17 am

    I kind of like staying in the WAC for football only and recruiting from Texas in the future along with the West Coast. Playing some new blood.. not worrying about some stadium 7,000+ feet above sea level. Where do the direct flights to Texas go? Or are those only FedEx Cargo flights?

  96. gigi-hawaii November 11, 2010 10:20 am

    Imagine if SMU joined the WAC. Possible? Not probable.

  97. al November 11, 2010 10:22 am

    stretch…no more musubi for you.

  98. gigi-hawaii November 11, 2010 10:27 am

    If JJ ever leaves SMU, will we still be interested in playing SMU in the Hawaii Bowl? I doubt it.

  99. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 10:28 am

    With BYU in for a number of football games (if not conference membership) … at least the WAC can offer a full schedule. Got to hope that the economy stats to snowball in a good way and some of the fringe schools start thinking FBS again.

  100. Committed Road Warrior November 11, 2010 10:28 am


    Direct flights from Honolulu to Houston (Continental) and Dallas (American) exist. Too bad flying to one of those cities still involves either a 4-5 hour drive to get to San Antonio/San Marcos…or another short hour-long flight from those airports.

  101. d1島 November 11, 2010 10:34 am

    Great Morning All!

    Bless all veterans!

  102. kruzen November 11, 2010 10:35 am

    As of now the 2012 season, the WAC will have eight football members. If La Tech or another team leaves the WAC will not be a recognized as a football conference unless the WAC can get some kind of exemption, if there is any. Also, it looks like there is no others that would join the WAC for football unless the CA economy turns around quickly.

    If the two Texas universities become successful, they would probably move to another conference like BSU, FSU and Nevada.

    WAC appears to be very unstable but mih has some good points about playing at a high elevation and recruiting.

  103. expat November 11, 2010 10:39 am

    You would think that the rest of the WAC would be delighted to have Hawaii’s other sports move the Big West. That would save them a bunch of money.

    The Texas schools are intriguing. They seem to have the desire, but will they be more like UTEP and North Texas or Texas Tech and Houston?

    Montana seems like a decent program, but it adds nothing for Hawaii in terms of recruiting. Looking at their roster they have one Hawaii kid and a bunch of kids from California, Oregon and Washington — all prime Hawaii recruiting places. Do we really need them competing for players we want on a more level playing field? I would think that the Texas schools would be more like LaTech — recruiting out of TX, LA, and OK primarily as opposed to the west coast and Hawaii.

    One interesting thing about the current WAC schools — between the three schools leaving there are only two players from Hawaii on their collective rosters as far as I can tell:

    Fresno State has zero… they less than ten players from outside of CA and most of those are from Texas and Arizona.

    Nevada has just one — Mike Andrews from Kalaheo via Arizona Western.

    Boise State has one — Jeremy Ioane, but he was a bit of a fluke, right?

    Utah State, Idaho, NMSU, and SJSU have all success recruiting in Hawaii and each of them have at least two players from Hawaii with Idaho, NMSU and Utah State having 5 each I believe.

  104. d1島 November 11, 2010 10:41 am

    One word re UTSA:


  105. A-House November 11, 2010 10:41 am


    notice how I capitalized your name!

    so what’s the difference between ronnie stevens in your post # 72 and #89? are you toying with me?

  106. expat November 11, 2010 10:48 am

    That was meant to be “had success” Spent too much time looking up rosters and lost my train of thought. The problem with going after schools from other FBS conferences is that the only way it can realistically happen is if the WAC represents more money. Garret has posted all the numbers many times. Schools from Conf USA and the MWC are not going to move to a conference where they will make less money. Similarly, schools like La Tech and, dare I say it, Hawaii, will move just like Boise, Nevada and Fresno did to a situation that represents greater outside revenue.

    Montana brings nothing in terms of TV appeal, but getting back into the Texas market might — especially if you add Denver and Seattle along the way. That might give Benson a bit more leverage to negotiate TV deals.

  107. A-House November 11, 2010 10:51 am


    the noise you heard was Mrs A-House and Midori cheering on the thought of going shopping at the large shopping mall between San Antone and San Marcos.

  108. LizKauai m/ November 11, 2010 10:51 am

    Tsigh… miss the Princess’ videos of the Scout Bowls…

  109. A-House November 11, 2010 10:54 am


    I asked once, but unsure if you responded on why the best young golfers in Hawaii chose to go to the mainland for college.

    Same reason(s) as football?

  110. rooster November 11, 2010 11:03 am

    Bless all veterans

  111. Garret November 11, 2010 11:12 am

    Chad Owens is up against SJSU’s Yonus Davis for CFL Special Teams Player of the Year. Sol Elimimian is up for CFL Rookie of the Year.

    B.C. Lions linebacker Solomon Elimimian is the West nominee for outstanding rookie. He led his team with 78 tackles and sacked the quarterback five times.

    Toronto’s Chad Owens and Yonus Davis of the B.C. Lions are the finalists for special teams player of the year.

    Owens became just the fifth CFL player ever to reach both 1,000 punt and kickoff return yards in a season. He led the league in punt return average, taking back four kicks all the way.


  112. Garret November 11, 2010 11:14 am

    You would think that the rest of the WAC would be delighted to have Hawaii’s other sports move the Big West. That would save them a bunch of money.


    The thing is, once *1* more school takes their football program out of the WAC, the WAC is finished as a football conference. The WAC can only get a temporary exception to the 8-school minimum for football if it can show that another school is joining the WAC right away…but what school has the money right now to move up to D-IA?

    The WAC used to basically beg La Tech to join C-USA or the Sun Belt. Now, the WAC is calling them a valued member of the WAC and talks about wanting them to be happy with the conference. The difference is that the WAC cannot afford to lose *any* football teams anymore.

  113. Garret November 11, 2010 11:16 am

    The WAC tried to get UNLV over the summer and then it still had Fresno, Nevada, and was assuming it had BYU for all non-football sports…and UNLV wasn’t interested then. The bottom feeders of the MWC like UNLV and Wyoming are exactly the ones that benefit the most from their equal-revenue sharing policy. To think that the WAC could get them to leave the MWC for the WAC is a nice fantasy but not grounded in reality.

  114. Garret November 11, 2010 11:21 am

    These are the problems with football-only for UH in the MWC:

    1. No sharing of the significant NCAA basketball revenue that the MWC gets. The MWC got 4 teams into the NCAA tournament last year and some of their teams won games, so they are going to be getting even more than the $4 million they got last year.

    2. No PPV contract anymore. So, while schools like Fresno and Nevada will get more money by joining the MWC, UH would get less because it will lose the $2.5 million PPV deal. WAC TV + PPV = about $2.9 million per year for UH…MWC TV deal = $1.3 million. The increased revenues from other sports can make up the difference, but UH won’t be getting any piece of those revenues.

    However, I think that if UH could swing that deal they would have to because the travel time and money savings with the Big West would be significant (even after travel subsidies) and the MWC would insure that UH can keep playing football. The WAC is almost done as a football conference now that Montana said no. The Big West would provide better competition and easier access for UH fans than the WAC for the non-football sports…

  115. A-House November 11, 2010 11:25 am

    If Fresno and Nevada had remained and the 2 Texas schools joined the WAC, could the WAC have gone to 2 divisions with a conference championship game in 2012 or 2013?

    Save significant $$$ for all teams?

    BTW, is Denver joining the WAC for basketball only?

    Did the PAC 10 President’s approve the admission of Utah and Colorado? A former UCLA Pres seemed to be dead set against one or both teams. Is this guy now at the PAC 10 Conference HQ?

    With all the commotion of expenses, has the WAC HQ trimmed its expenses? How much? Some one mentioned that Benson’s travel expenses are “above & beyond” his salary; say, good way to travel first class at some one else’s expense; nice hotel suite!

  116. Garret November 11, 2010 11:30 am

    I’m pretty sure this is a joke…but if it this actually happens this will be even worse than the blue turf!

    Without any games to play, it’s taken a novelty photo (see below) to get UTSA football into the mainstream news. Local radio stations were abuzz yesterday with talk that the Roadrunners could go gimmick, a la Boise State, with an orange field at the Alamodome.

    Always game for attention, UTSA promotions ace Jim Goodman said Wednesday, “We can neither confirm nor deny that we would have an orange field.”


  117. Garret November 11, 2010 11:31 am


    The Pac-12 approval of Utah and Colorado happened awhile back. Utah and Colorado will be in the Pac-12 South with the Arizona schools and USC/UCLA.

  118. Stephen Tsai November 11, 2010 11:33 am

    Actually, if people want to get a jump on next year, they should book the Suncoast the week leading to the UNLV game. UH will be staying there, although, personally, I think they should go home after the Washington game. You get four more days of school out of it, and Vegas is an easy flight.

  119. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 11:39 am

    Committed Road Warrior:

    Thing is, I believe Mack has a lot of solid contacts in Texas, along with JJ.. so they should be able to arrange a place to stay and a good practice field, wherever they land. Then the bus ride won’t seem so bad after a day or two of rest. Would be ideal if the Warriors could play both Texas teams back to back.. home.. or away… save some $$ on the road.

  120. orioles4eva November 11, 2010 11:43 am

    Bless all veterans.

    Buddha bless.

    I believe the song went, If you can’t be with the one you love, love the one you’re with.

  121. dcwarrior November 11, 2010 11:48 am

    The problem I have with BC and Ferd talking about the MWC is that, it doesn’t make the MWC more likely to take UH. And if the MWC is not thinking seriously about it, that talk gives the MWC all kinds of PR points and takes away PR points from the WAC (beating it while it’s already down) – and from UH if no offer is forthcoming. IF UH is in fact talking to the MWC, they should go radio silent until the offer comes.

    UH continuing to talk about the MWC is part of what weakened the WAC all throughout the 2000s.

  122. OldDiver November 11, 2010 11:53 am

    Is Terrence Bell a redshirt Junior?

  123. colt fan November 11, 2010 11:54 am

    Bless all veterans! Go Warriors!

  124. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 11:55 am


    The University of Texas at San Antonio has confirmed that it has accepted an invitation to join the Western Athletic Conference.

    Read more: It’s official: UTSA Roadrunners to join WAC | San Antonio Business Journal

  125. Last Call November 11, 2010 11:55 am

    Today my thoughts are with a brother in arms Richard Appelhans

    still an MIA in Laos .


  126. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 11:55 am

    UTSA will become an official member of the conference on July 1, 2012.

  127. al November 11, 2010 12:10 pm

    well if utsa goes with an orange field then they should consider renaming themselves from road runners to plump pumpkins. the next order of business would be to call the stadium the pumpkin patch.

  128. Markazulu November 11, 2010 12:13 pm

    Anyone think its funny that Virginia Tech can go to a BCS game when they have 2 loses an 1 to James Madision. Fairness nah I dont think so.

  129. al November 11, 2010 12:15 pm

    mr. ahouse…the wac has eight members now excluding nevada and fresno st.




    utah st


    la tech

    tex st


    with reno and fresno that would have made only ten. i believe the magic (minimum) number would be two six team divisions or a total of twelve, if not at all.

  130. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 12:17 pm

    Maybe we should go with a dark Forest or Hunter green turf with silver lines, black hash marks, white numbers, and no WAC logo?

  131. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 12:25 pm

    Terrence Bell will be a 5th year Senior next season. It will be a make or break off-season practice for him.

  132. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 12:27 pm


    That’s 8 for football but Denver was invited for all other sports, too.


  133. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 12:43 pm

    Seattle U is next for non-football sports. We can hope that another school or two might turn the corner in a couple of years and decide to make a leap of faith, OR some school from another conference may jump ship.

  134. Pomai November 11, 2010 12:49 pm

    #84 – al – yes it would.

  135. SailorBlue November 11, 2010 12:49 pm

    Bless all veterans.

    Thanks to all my brothers, sisters, aunts and uncles who have served.

    Also, bless our wives, husbands, sons, daughter and parents who have taken care of business while we served.

    Mahalo to all.

  136. Michigan Warrior November 11, 2010 12:50 pm

    #130… Markazulu… What’s worse is the Big East has no teams in the top 25, and yet their conference chump is guaranteed a BCS bowl spot!

  137. Ralph November 11, 2010 12:51 pm

    Bless all Veterans!

    Yesterday was Happy U.S. Marines birthday, 235 years of service.

  138. homey ℞ November 11, 2010 12:53 pm

    Another beautiful day in Hawaii Nei. Lots of sunshine, plenty waves for everyone.

  139. Pomai November 11, 2010 12:54 pm

    Some people are really dense, to think that we will get an invite to the MWC. PEOPLE they don’t want us period. When BC said on the air that the UH football team was an embarrassment, he should have lost his job and sent packing to the mainland. Sorry I have no use for the guy or anything he says, he is a typical radio jock “it’s all about him”.

  140. Support Rainbow Wahine Softball November 11, 2010 12:59 pm

    Ummm… Is Denver really going to send their lacrosse and hockey teams to the WAC? 😆

  141. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 1:03 pm

    Support Rainbow Wahine Softball:

    As football referees…

  142. Support Rainbow Wahine Softball November 11, 2010 1:03 pm



    DEAD! DEAD! DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    When sunlight hits raindrops, it does NOT appear silver… you get a rainbow!!! It’s basic elementary science and you don’t need to pay $$$$ to an NFL logo designer to figure this one out.

    I can live with black (even though it should NOT be our primary color for uniforms), but silver??? God help us….

  143. Support Rainbow Wahine Softball November 11, 2010 1:04 pm


    NHL referees are the TOUGHEST officals in ALL of the professional sports.

  144. TChahng November 11, 2010 1:04 pm

    Thank you Uncle BG, Uncle A-House, and Uncle Kekoa, and all veterans, servicemen and servicewomen… Bless all Veterans.

  145. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 1:08 pm

    Support Rainbow Wahine Softball:

    Do you know if there are any Hawaii kids playing Hockey in college?

  146. labrat November 11, 2010 1:21 pm

    So we lose one donkey and 2 dogs and we gain a bird.

  147. Bulla November 11, 2010 1:21 pm


    BC is BS

    Nuf sed

  148. d1島 November 11, 2010 1:21 pm

    Happy Birthday TChahng!

  149. labrat November 11, 2010 1:24 pm

    BS = blowing smoke.

  150. Garret November 11, 2010 1:29 pm

    Dave Reardon wrote about UH going to the MWC as a football-only member:

    http://www.staradvertiser.com/columnists/20101108_ warriors_head_into_bye_with_last_lopsided_loss_behind_them.html

    Ferd wrote about UH going to the MWC as a football-only member:


    Both of these articles were published *before* BC started talking about it on the radio today.

  151. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 1:31 pm

    😉 check out the http://www.denverpioneers.com website.. they already implemented the WAC logo.

  152. Matt November 11, 2010 1:31 pm

    Bless all veterans!

    Thank you to all of those who have served, or are serving in our nation’s Armed Forces. Freedom isn’t free. It takes the sacrifice of Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines, Coast Guardsmen and their families.

    “This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave.” ~Elmer Davis

  153. A-House November 11, 2010 1:35 pm

    Today, I think of all my OCS classmates from the 1st and 2nd Platoon who gave their lives in Nam – all 47 of them!

    May they rest in peace and their families be comforted in what they gave to this country; so we may exercise our First Amendment right of free speech and listen to those who are political prostitutes.

    I will forever cherish our 180 days at Fort Benning – OC 3-66!

  154. HiFlyer November 11, 2010 1:40 pm

    Bless all veterans.

  155. A-House November 11, 2010 1:45 pm

    OK, back to sports!


    now, we concentrate on the young, Brazilian who is on their National Team and a definite prospect for UH – what positive vibes can we send this young fella?

  156. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 1:45 pm


    Video regarding UTSA football program.

  157. A-House November 11, 2010 1:47 pm

    Coloma Ohana:

    Did you receive our email about SJSU game?

    You can respond on this blog with a “yae” or a “nay”.

  158. A-House November 11, 2010 1:53 pm

    Yeah, if everything falls into place, I will be able to see San Antonio many years later than the dream I had joining the Air Force out of high school.

    This fell apart when the recruiting officer was charged with violations and all our records were shipped for his court martial ( I believe ). Any way, no one contacted the Hawaii recruits – that was very odd – so I went to UH.

  159. Ralph November 11, 2010 1:54 pm

    Al on #91 I thought she merely pulled on the choke chain when she wanted the “to do” list completed on time.

  160. A-House November 11, 2010 2:01 pm


    who is the donkey, dogs, and bird?

  161. A-House November 11, 2010 2:03 pm


    #153 – that’s impressive!

    They accetped today and have already changed their web site! Excitement! Commitment!

    Wonder if UH can match that kind of change? no, no, don’t answer cause we know the answer!!!!!!!!

  162. wafan November 11, 2010 2:07 pm

    #159 . . .

    I know Yae. A good lady who owns a restaurant up here. What does Big C have to do with her?

  163. wafan November 11, 2010 2:09 pm

    Welcome to the conference TX St, UTSA, and DU!!!


    Go WAC ’em Warriors!

  164. al November 11, 2010 2:19 pm

    mih…ahouse asked if fresneck and reno stayed coupled with the two texas instituitions would we have enough to make two footbal divisions. my answer to that was no, because my understanding was that a minimum of six teams constitute a football division, therefore, a total of twelve teams are necessary if you wanted two football divisions.

    i am aware that denver does not have a football program.

  165. Last Call November 11, 2010 2:22 pm

    TX St, UTSA, and DU isn’t welcomed here.

  166. 99club November 11, 2010 2:37 pm

    Bless all veterans!

    UTSA and TX St. Tsaikos on the Riverwalk! I can’t wait. No doubt those two schools are in prime recruiting territory. I think it’s only a couple hours drive to Blinn Jr. College, among other JC schools.

  167. Ralph November 11, 2010 2:41 pm

    Texas State University softball will play Na Wahine at the RWSS on February 11 and 14. Come down to the RWSS and welcome Texas State U. to the WAC.

  168. Last Call November 11, 2010 2:42 pm

    What an embarrassment the WAC just keeps going down hill no wonder everyone laughs at us.

  169. tommui November 11, 2010 2:44 pm

    Wonder what LastCall has in mind if Texas State, UTSA and DU aren’t welcomed? The death of the WAC? The end of football at UH? What?

  170. Aileen Nicolaisen November 11, 2010 2:45 pm

    Muchos Gracias for your post.Much thanks again. Fantastic.

  171. wafan November 11, 2010 2:48 pm

    Easier to change one than many.

    Welcome to the three new members!!!

  172. d1島 November 11, 2010 2:58 pm


    It’s not worth wondering.

  173. d1島 November 11, 2010 3:00 pm


    I think I mentioned it before but I can’t wait to see A-house ask for directions to the Mens’ Room at Dick’s Last Resort! 😆

  174. Ralph November 11, 2010 3:07 pm

    we welcomed Boise and Nevada (Reno), no difference with the Texans. Boise was a lower division power house that continued to be a power in the WAC. Nevada Reno was not a household name as a sports power in any sports, but they did well in bb and fb in the WAC, and their level of performance can be easily be replaced by the Texans in a few years.

    It’s not like Reno was a beast in men or women sports, they had their good years and down years but in no instance did they dominate any sports in the WAC. They had a few good years in BB and when compared to UH they were outstanding but in reality they weren’t on the same level as non BCS teams like Gonzaga and Butler in their good years.

    The remaining WAC teams need to increase their athletic budget and improve their facilities to put on a venue that will attract their fans, they must build a house that fans will come to and watch their team perform. WAC teams competing with each other, equally competitive, entertaining, spirited, and games outside of the conference don’t matter. We can’t control bowl games, TV games, etc, it comes with the territory, what we can control is the level of competition within the WAC to draw WAC fans. The powers to be need to agree to parity in budgets, the Idahos and New Mexico States got to increase their budgets because the Texans will soon pass them once they settle in as WAC members.

  175. Support Rainbow Wahine Softball November 11, 2010 3:14 pm


    November 11th, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    Support Rainbow Wahine Softball:

    Do you know if there are any Hawaii kids playing Hockey in college?

    Sure. They live in Mililani, Hawaii Kai, and on base at either Pearl Harbor, Hickam, or AMR.

  176. Ralph November 11, 2010 3:14 pm

    In Boise we lose their power rating in fb but outside of football their athletic program is mediocre. I know, fb is the engine that pays for all the non revenue sports but Boise has a long way to go to increase their revenue in a small tv market and a small stadium. Fortunately their rabid fans spend a lot on paraphernalia but there is a ceiling on how much it can spiral upward in revenue in a small populated state. Boise is not in the same boat as Texas, a state with a large population base and tv network, although their fans are as rabid.

  177. Ralph November 11, 2010 3:16 pm

    didn’t Kazz play roller hockey or whatever its called with roller blades.

  178. Support Rainbow Wahine Softball November 11, 2010 3:17 pm

    Texas State assistant softball coach and Rainbow Wahine softball alumane Peejay Brun is MORE than welcome when the Lady Bobcats play the Wahine this season!!! :mrgreen:

  179. Kazz November 11, 2010 3:18 pm


    Inline hockey. Played at a Mililani league and then a Pearl Harbor league.

    We played with a puck and had incidental contact. Not that whimpy stuff with the running around and slapping a ball around!

  180. Buffoman November 11, 2010 3:20 pm

    My two cents on this day.

    I never went, never wanted to go, but would have if drafted. So I don’t pretend to know what those who went went through. Mine is merely an observation.

    If as an American living in Hawaiiyou never took the time to walk Punchbowl and see the markers and read how young some of these folks were and the sacriface they made just so we can do what we do today, you need to do that. You need to think of what was lost when that young person passed away and what we gained in that occurance, and what we owe these folks for that action. We owe.

    Then look at the p_ss poor job we do as Americans to help those who served and were lucky enough to come back. WE cheap their medical needs, we do a poor job in helping them get back to sharing the dream they just help us protect. WE need to do better. We can all agree that war is h_ll and no one wants to participate, but these young people went because they believed that by doing so, we as Americans could remain Americans.

    We owe and I for one honor their action, always.

  181. Garret November 11, 2010 3:24 pm

    Some discussion by Dave Reardon on the football-only MWC/BW for the rest of the sports rumor.

    This is no secret … heard about it two weeks ago and wrote about it in Monday’s paper.

    If I didn’t have reason to think there was interest from that end, I wouldn’t have written it. But after the blowout loss to Boise …

    In other words, this is *not* just a figment of BC’s imagination like so many people posted today.


  182. gmahoney November 11, 2010 3:26 pm

    TX St, UTSA, and DU ARE welcomed here.

  183. Garret November 11, 2010 3:32 pm

    I haven’t figured out how to properly express in a post my gratitude towards those who served in our military. We owe them our thanks, our respect, and have a responsibility to appreciate the freedoms and privileges we have because of the sacrifices our troops have made. There probably isn’t a person in Hawaii who isn’t related to or knows well someone who is currently serving or has served in our military (like my Dad).

    All I know is that in my work I’m able to help come up with solutions that might help our troops, and the thought that something I could do could save the lives on soldiers and civilians is a huge motivation for me. Unfortunately, there is a *huge* delay and major barriers to get any new technology into the field. Instead of constantly running into that brick wall, I think I might get around the problem another way soon.

  184. Stephen Tsai November 11, 2010 3:40 pm

    There’s no question UH can place its non-football sports in the Big West.

    I think the dream would be to play in the MWC in football. But that’s only possible if the Big East picks up TCU.

    The other scenario is to stay in the WAC in football, and play the other sports in the Big West.

    I’ve heard a certain radio host flip-flop on the independence issue. He’s just parroting what he hears from a UH official. I keep asking him who UH would play in October and November. His response is to hire a scheduling person. In other words: I don’t know. We’ll pay someone to figure it out.

  185. d1島 November 11, 2010 3:44 pm

    He’s just parroting what he hears from a UH official.

    the same official who signs off on the radio contract? 🙄

  186. Stephen Tsai November 11, 2010 3:44 pm

    I wouldn’t worry about the newcomers bringing sports that UH doesn’t play.

    There are a lot of sports that UH doesn’t play. If there aren’t enough teams in the WAC to field a sport, teams can combine with another league. It’s not so much that UH doesn’t field a hockey team, it’s why doesn’t Boise field a baseball team?

  187. d1島 November 11, 2010 3:48 pm

    …one trick pony

  188. d1島 November 11, 2010 3:50 pm

    Notice that SunGod is assigned to recruit LA (not the one with LAX) for The Former Coach. Always talking about how impressive the speed is…

    Playing in TX every year might not be that bad….

  189. Pomai November 11, 2010 3:57 pm

    I wonder if last call is BC, they seem to think alike and have the same negative waves…

  190. 99club November 11, 2010 4:00 pm


    Actually heard the following at Dick’s:

    Patron: “I’ll have a beer, please.”

    Bartender: “Do you have a name for that beer, genius?”

    It went downhill from there….

  191. Last Call November 11, 2010 4:03 pm

    Hey Pomai I’m the guy who wrote you a $1000 check for your bracelets so shut up.

    I want us out of the WAC because I’m so sick of being part of rebuilding the WAC.

  192. d1島 November 11, 2010 4:16 pm


  193. Kazz November 11, 2010 4:21 pm

    Jim Bolla would be proud of Marlon Dorsey.

    Marlon Dorsey, Miss. High School Basketball Coach, Accused Of Whipping Players.

    An assistant basketball coach at Murrah High School in Jackson, Miss. is on leave after a lawsuit has been brought against him for whipping team members.

    According to WJTV, Assistant Coach Marlon Dorsey has admitted to whipping members of the basketball team.

    One whipping was recorded on a cell phone video camera.

  194. Pomai November 11, 2010 4:24 pm

    Cool your jets last call, It could have been for $50,000 I don’t give a rip they weren’t my bracelet’s and for you to bring that up is not to kosher, it dosen’t give you the right to tell me to shut up. Did I say anything that was wrong? BTW thanks

  195. bb November 11, 2010 4:25 pm

    Just listening to the Sports Animals the few callers that called in were in support of it (whipping and using paddles). The brought up the past and how it was back in the days. Interesting.

  196. Kazz November 11, 2010 4:27 pm


    Jim Bolla can disguise his voice and has multiple cell phones.

  197. BNS November 11, 2010 4:27 pm

    Bless all veterans

  198. Kazz November 11, 2010 4:30 pm

    Last Call,

    James Donovan III

    Athletic Director

    University of Hawaii Athletics

    Office: 808-956-7301

    Fax: 808-956-4637


  199. Hawaiianbod November 11, 2010 4:30 pm

    Buffoman – re #183 – well said.

    Happy Veteran’s Day to all who have served! Thank you!!

  200. Hawaiianbod November 11, 2010 4:32 pm

    err #182

  201. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 4:33 pm

    Last Call…

    Out of the WAC to “rebuilt” the MWC? eh?

  202. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 4:34 pm

    oops.. rebuild …

  203. Kazz November 11, 2010 4:35 pm

    Stephen Tsai:

    November 11th, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    I’ve heard a certain radio host flip-flop on the independence issue. He’s just parroting what he hears from a UH official.

    That’s what I’ve heard too is that Bobby Curran is essentially echoing what someone from within UH is saying/thinking.

  204. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 4:36 pm

    At least the WAC will offer a couple of fresh new faces.

    As long as our other sports are in the Big West, I will be happy with whatever conference our football team ends up with as long as it is FBS and our Out of Conference games help keep our SOS out of the cellar.

  205. Kazz November 11, 2010 4:36 pm

    Before I head out to get ready for Rainbow Wahine basketball, I just need to say this.

    Thank God Jim Bolla is GONE from UH. 😎

  206. A-House November 11, 2010 4:42 pm

    d1 & 99 club:

    sumimasen, O toire wa doko desu ka?

    what’s so good about Dick’s restaurant? steaks? fish ‘n chips? teriyaki steak? misoyaki butter fish?

    is it like a Golden Corral? dang, brings back memories of Florida Ted! RIP, my friend!

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  208. Hawaiianbod November 11, 2010 4:44 pm

    Garret – re #185 – also well said. Thank you and your company for your pursuit to equip a safer soldier!! Bless all veterans!

  209. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 4:45 pm


    I like the Alamodome (UTSA). UH and the State should study the Alamodome for future stadium considerations… check out the various seating configurations.

  210. chawan_cut November 11, 2010 4:46 pm

    Thank you to all the Tsaiko veterans and current members of our armed forces here and abroad.

  211. expat November 11, 2010 4:47 pm

    I think Hockey is like Men’s Volleyball — they have their own conferences.

    I like the WAC for football and Big West for all other sports. That saves schools like LaTech money and makes it less likely for them to leave. Honestly I would rather the Warriors play in Ruston & San Antonio rather than at altitude in Wyoming & Colorado. Those are always brutal games.

  212. Kazz November 11, 2010 4:50 pm


    Stop blogging. See you at the arena!

  213. duh November 11, 2010 4:52 pm

    OMG!! There’s a male Tsaiko that gives Gigi strong competition. WHOOSH!!!

  214. ai-eee-soos November 11, 2010 5:00 pm

    It’s official: mbb signs recruit; posted at 4:39 p.m.

    ” … The University of Hawaii men’s basketball team has signed highly regarded 6-foot-8, 225-pound forward Ronnie Stevens of Serra High School in California.

    Stevens, who led Serra to a 35-2 record and a state title, was ranked the No. 13 prep player in California by calhighsports.com.

    He averaged 12.5 points, 10.5 rebounds and 4.9 blocks per game as a junior last season… “

  215. wafan November 11, 2010 5:11 pm

    Welcome to new Rainbow Warrior Ronnie Stevens!

    Go ‘Bows!!!

  216. Michigan Warrior November 11, 2010 5:14 pm

    Watched the President give his Veterans Day speech on C-SPAN. His speech was delivered from Yongsan, Korea… where my oldest daughter was born! Pretty good speech, although I could’ve done without the history lesson on the Korean Peninsula. But then again, for those who hadn’t served there, I guess some background on the “Forgotten War” was necessary.

  217. Michigan Warrior November 11, 2010 5:15 pm

    Wow! Coach Arnold keeps it going!

  218. Okole Maluna November 11, 2010 5:31 pm

    Ronnie Stevens is old news from three days ago…

    Waiting for his best friend Cain who will be announcing tomorrow where he will go.

    Hope he wants to come to Waikiki. Hawaii is one of his choice to pick.

  219. jm2375 November 11, 2010 6:10 pm

    Kazz – did you really have to bring up eBolla’s name again? I was hoping to never hear or see that name again in my lifetime. 😈

    From what JD said a couple of weeks ago on BC’s show, he’s rethinking the independence route, since the Pac-12 and another conference will play 9 conference games, making it that much more difficult to schedule games with those teams.

    BTW, went to see Megamind this afternoon. It’s ok, not great.

  220. jm2375 November 11, 2010 6:13 pm

    Okole Maluna – someone actually signing their NLI is never old news. Some kids change their minds at the last minute. Manti Teo ring a bell? I like how Coach Arnold is getting away from the only getting JC kids. In a few years, only a few JC kids will be offered. So, to all high school athletes, make sure you can qualify out of HS, so going the JC route isn’t necessary.

  221. Slugger November 11, 2010 6:40 pm

    Bless all veterans!

    If I were home, I woulda gone to the Scout game…

    May Ke Akua watch over Shane Austin. That accident sounded scary. Hope the Warriors rest up & heal the owies. Ke Akua watch over all of our athletes… and Tsaikos, too.

    Hope the softball alumnae game and bracelet ceremony goes well. Wish I were there to see it all.

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  223. Michigan Warrior November 11, 2010 6:47 pm

    The last “What If” product Jay Leno did on tonight’s show included Bad Ass Kona Coffee… my favorite!

    Late already… night all.

    Go, Wahine!

  224. homey ℞ November 11, 2010 6:49 pm

    Wahine won 3-0 @ Fresno.

  225. Slugger November 11, 2010 6:54 pm

    Happy Birthday TChahng!

  226. homey ℞ November 11, 2010 7:06 pm

    Feeling fat and satisfied…ahhhhhhh.

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  228. Kekoa (iPhone) November 11, 2010 7:18 pm

    Happy Birthday to TChahng! Another Tsaiko Veteran amongst us. Salute!

    Eh!…UH Wahine starting slow but heating up. Saw Momo in da lobby trying to win da Best Seats in da House contest.

    UH band and cheer leaders pumpin’ up the crowd!

  229. Bulla November 11, 2010 7:23 pm


    Happy happy burfday!

  230. Bulla November 11, 2010 7:24 pm


    a true tsaiko…… “Feeling fat and satisfied…ahhhhhhh.” haha

  231. wafan November 11, 2010 7:28 pm

    Hosting a SkillsUSA leadership development conference tomorrow at school for 100+ kids from five other local schools. Turning out to be a bit of a big deal with the state director, national secondary president, state president, two national lead judges, the region coordinator, and the region 5 administrator from the national office in attendance. Interesting how the local media is not interested in covering the event because it is neither academically nor sports related.

    Funny how this has grown from an all day seminar for just my kids 18-years ago to this event where folks are asking for an invitation. Oh well. They must be really desperate.


  232. wafan November 11, 2010 7:30 pm

    And, happy birthday to TChahng!


  233. wafan November 11, 2010 7:30 pm

    Nytal, really.

  234. Shoko November 11, 2010 7:57 pm

    I’m little irritated that ESPN and Vegas Insider got the dates wrong about the start of the Rainbow Classic, specifically the UH-MSU game. Not that it matters as most are aware of the date, but comeon!

  235. d1島 November 11, 2010 8:04 pm

    Good Luck wafan!

  236. el guapo November 11, 2010 8:09 pm

    No Big East teams are bowl-eligible yet

  237. al November 11, 2010 8:14 pm

    okole…ronnie stevens was news from 2 1/2 wks ago. but, only today did it become official upon recript of his nli.

  238. al November 11, 2010 8:16 pm

    damiene “sugar” cain would be a stretch at this point, not unless he took the trip to hawaii today. one has to be here to appreciate what we have to offer.

    some were saying that he was leaning towards colorado.

  239. al November 11, 2010 8:18 pm

    happy birthday….TChahng

    that’s a tongue twister i tell you.

  240. diehard fan November 11, 2010 8:31 pm

    If you are saying stay in the WAC, I agree. The new schools could be new worthy rivals just as Boise, Nevada came to be and BYU before. The MWC is losing BYU & Utah, maybe TCU later ?

    As for Boise, UH is not currently in the same league so to speak. They are too good for UH or at least their coaching is way above UH’s level, from looking at the results of the game. I don’t think our talent is that far off from that of Boise’s. Before the game, everyone thought Hawaii had a shot at winning the game.

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  242. PowderPuff November 11, 2010 9:02 pm

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  244. A-House November 11, 2010 9:35 pm

    I remembered, I forgot. I remembered, I forgot!

    Not this time – Happy Birfday to TChahng!!!!!!!

  245. LizKauai (iPad) November 11, 2010 9:37 pm

    Watching a bit of TNF with Flacco and Ryan tonight made me visualize Colt playing for an NFL team that took the time to develop him.

  246. A-House November 11, 2010 9:38 pm

    ok, al:

    you got me – glad to hear that ronnie stevens did sign with UH – now to see if UH can get the tall Brazilian from their Jr National team!

    did you hear that UH will get commitments from 2 “down under” players who are 6′ 7″ and 6′ 9″ tall – hear they like rugby and possible DEs.

    and, a very belated happy birthday to Alex Dunnachie!

  247. d1島 November 11, 2010 10:03 pm

    …about 4,500 good reasons not to think about going on a cruise!

    …unless they actually *do* serve SPAM! 😈

  248. jm2375 November 11, 2010 10:09 pm

    d1 – better to have an engine fire on a cruise ship than on an airplane. Just saying…

  249. d1島 November 11, 2010 10:14 pm


    3 days later, I bet some passengers might take issue widdat!

  250. Da Punchbowl Kid November 11, 2010 10:14 pm

    Howdy folks.

  251. Da Punchbowl Kid November 11, 2010 10:16 pm

    Nice to see alla youz us timers here tonight. Welcome to the newbies.

  252. Da Punchbowl Kid November 11, 2010 10:17 pm

    oops! “youz old timers” that should read… 😳

  253. Da Punchbowl Kid November 11, 2010 10:18 pm

    Good… nobody saw. 🙂

  254. d1島 November 11, 2010 10:20 pm


    Check out Dick’s in the Excalibur next time. Although I like the one on the River Walk better, it’s still a great time!

    …and the food is even good.

  255. koakane™ November 11, 2010 10:20 pm

    wassssssssssssss uuuuuuuuuuup

  256. d1島 November 11, 2010 10:21 pm

    Howzit DPK! 🙂

  257. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc November 11, 2010 10:23 pm

    Bless all veterans.

  258. Da Punchbowl Kid November 11, 2010 10:23 pm

    Hey d1! How yooouuuuuuu koakane!

  259. d1島 November 11, 2010 10:24 pm

    Howzit koakane! 🙂

  260. Da Punchbowl Kid November 11, 2010 10:24 pm

    Howdy Doc!

  261. homey ℞ November 11, 2010 10:24 pm

    You gotta buy certain items in Black Ops.

  262. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 10:24 pm


    Egads! I hope “Excalibur” isn’t like Chippendales… !

  263. Da Punchbowl Kid November 11, 2010 10:25 pm

    Anybody think Chad Owens’ play in the CFL will get him another NFL look?

  264. Kazz November 11, 2010 10:29 pm

    Just back from Rainbow Wahine basketball and after a slow first half, the Wahine really seperated themselves.

    Without looking at the stats, I’d guess they committed about 12 turnovers??? They had about 5 within the first seven minutes of the first half and pretty much went the entire first half without one.

    It got a little sloppy midway through the second half as BYUH cut a near 20-point deficit to 10, but they resumed control.

    Shawna-Lei Kuehu was beastly tonight. Her shot looks better and she is a court general. She has the instincts to be in the right place at the right time and looks to be one of the young leaders on the team. Kuehu looks physically stronger this season and is playing with purpose.

    Breanna Arbuckle is continuing her BLOCKING ways tonight with a mad-load of blocks on the BYUH players.

    Arbuckle’s offensive output for tonight was not her usual #s as newcomer Kamiliah Jackson is another good one to watch. Nothing fancy from her. Just sure hands, physical, and no wasted movement under the basket on offensive rebounds.

    BYUH was a faster team and the Wahine struggled getting the defensive match-ups early on, but settled down a bit.

    Coach Dana played the entire bench with the exception on Katie Wilson. I believe someone said Wilson had a cast on her arm a month ago so she must be recovering from that.

    Megan Tinnin, known for her 3pt ability in previous seasons slowly got back into her touch with a few treys.

    Allie Patterson also was one of the players in double digits tonight.

    That’s all I can really think about right now. The obvious difference with the Wahine this season is that they look faster on defense, but they got out worked for most of the game off the defensive and offensive rebounds so Coach Dana still has a lot of work ahead of her.

  265. homey ℞ November 11, 2010 10:29 pm

    DPK – Nah, no one in the whole world thinks he will get another NFL look. DOH!

  266. d1島 November 11, 2010 10:32 pm

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  268. Stephen Tsai November 11, 2010 10:36 pm

    I wasn’t confident UH would beat Boise State.

    But being around everyone for three days, it felt like it was a possibility.

    Team was confident. It appeared Pilares and Letuli were healthy.

    But after that first Boise series, it appeared it would be a long game for UH. Moore is dangerous when he has time to pass.

  269. jm2375 November 11, 2010 10:36 pm

    d1 – at least they’re alive.

  270. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 10:36 pm

    Texas State on joining the WAC..

    “Enrollment will go up, and our prestige will go up,” said Trauth, who said there’s a correlation between big-time football and big-time public research universities, attracting donations, faculty and students.


  271. d1島 November 11, 2010 10:39 pm

  272. Da Punchbowl Kid November 11, 2010 10:39 pm

    Nobody homey? Really?! Wow! 😆

  273. d1島 November 11, 2010 10:41 pm

    Couldn’t the same be said for QB1?

  274. koakane™ November 11, 2010 10:41 pm

    in out aina wai left right mauka makai up down sheeeesh reading everyone’s opinion about UH and the WAC. treat UH with the respect they deserve as the senior member and give some preferential consideration every now and then I say stay. If going to be like this year for another decade then yea find another format which gives the warriors and the wahines a better venue to show case their talents. UH student athletes deserve better. nuff

  275. Da Punchbowl Kid November 11, 2010 10:43 pm

    Some things we will never understand.

  276. koakane™ November 11, 2010 10:43 pm

    opps howzit d1, jm#, dpk, lerking al, mih, st and homey

  277. koakane™ November 11, 2010 10:44 pm

    aghhhhhhhh sorry kazz and chawan

  278. madeinhawaii November 11, 2010 10:46 pm

    Hope everyone had a safe Veteran’s day.

  279. d1島 November 11, 2010 10:47 pm

    wish whitey was around.

    like know if Baldwin get chance?

  280. Da Punchbowl Kid November 11, 2010 10:49 pm

    I was just gonna ask you to break down the play offs this weekend, d1.

  281. Da Punchbowl Kid November 11, 2010 10:52 pm

    Cher’s on Letterman.

  282. d1島 November 11, 2010 10:52 pm


    Waianae has improved since the beginning of the season but I know nothing about the NI teams.

  283. Kazz November 11, 2010 10:53 pm

    Texas has some generous people.

    With D1 status for Texas State and the University of Texas San Antonio, expect to see booster donations SKYROCKET and DO NOT be surprised if their facilites and budgets surpass current WAC members… AND THAT INCLUDES UH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    $10,000,000.00 IN STUDENT FEES ALONE???????????????????????????????? THIS IS AROUND A 1/3 OF OUR ENTIRE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT BUDGET!!!!!!!!!!!!



  284. d1島 November 11, 2010 10:55 pm


  285. Da Punchbowl Kid November 11, 2010 10:57 pm

    Do a study?

  286. d1島 November 11, 2010 10:57 pm


    Isn’t that $10M per semester?

  287. Kazz November 11, 2010 10:59 pm





    For cryin out loud… UH can’t even get people to replace burnt out stadium lights on lower campus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  288. Kazz November 11, 2010 11:01 pm


    I think they charge by the semester as most do.

  289. Stephen Tsai November 11, 2010 11:01 pm

    I think people forget that this wasn’t the WAC’s plan.

    This is what the WAC had to do when members left. There’s a feeling by many that these schools left the WAC. But, really, they left the WAC format, and that format includes having a member that is 2,400 miles away, at the nearest. I think Benson and a lot of people are trying to be polite. But the reality is, when Boise left the WAC, it didn’t recommend taking UH. It recommended Fresno. And Fresno didn’t recommend UH. It recommended Utah State and Nevada. What makes Hawaii so unique and great — the isolation — is what makes it undesirable as a league partner. Reminds me of those who want Hawaii to secede from the union. I think Hawaii is better off being a state than an independent nation (although I think there could be a sovereign nation within the state).

  290. d1島 November 11, 2010 11:02 pm

    ….so then they get about 2/3 of the annual UHAD budget thru Activity Fees?

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  292. Kazz November 11, 2010 11:15 pm


    If the $300.00+ student athletic fee is what Texas State claims then scary yeah?

    Texas State enrollment is like 29,000 or so.

  293. homey ℞ November 11, 2010 11:17 pm

    Time to go to work. Goodnight.

  294. Kazz November 11, 2010 11:20 pm

    Ooops… $10,000,000.00 per YEAR by 2013.

    ***I’m going to highlight INTERESTING statements… statements FOREIGN to UH.***

    Texas State students approve increased athletics fee

    Posted by Mark Hendricks

    University News Service

    February 13, 2008

    Students at Texas State University-San Marcos have voted to increase the fees they pay to support Bobcat athletics in an effort to help the university move its football program to the NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS — formerly Division I-A).

    In a referendum held Feb. 12 and 13, Texas State students voted 4,738 (79.6 percent) to 1,214 (20.4 percent) to authorize the university to increase their athletics fee by $10 per semester credit hour in $2 per year increments over five years.

    The university will carry the measure forward and ask that it be approved by The Texas State University System Board of Regents at its meeting Feb. 22 at Lamar University in Beaumont.

    Increasing the student athletics fee is the first step in a process university officials say they hope will have the school ready to move to the FBS in four years. The NCAA recently established a four-year moratorium on moves within football subdivisions.

    “I am very proud of our students for their support of this initiative,” said Texas State President Denise M. Trauth. “It shows they are excited about the future of athletics at Texas State and in the continuing progress of the university. The Associated Student Government did an excellent job of promoting this measure and we are thankful for that organization’s effort and their pride in the university.”

    The five-year increase in the student athletic fee will eventually double the fall 2008 fee of $10 per semester credit hour. By 2013, students will be paying more than $10 million a year to support athletics. Additional funding will come from other sources, said Trauth.

    Reagan Pugh, president of Texas State’s Associated Student Government, said, “While it might seem that we voted on an athletic fee increase, what we really did was make one more step in the direction of bettering our university as a whole. The students have voiced their belief in Texas State and I could not thank them enough for leading us down the path of making today’s vision tomorrow’s tradition.”

    Trauth said future success will require a team effort.

    “Our students have done their part and shown their commitment,” said Trauth. “But they can’t do it alone. Their contribution will take us a long way, but we need others to get on board as well. Together, we can make this a very special time to be Bobcats.”

    Trauth said the university will work toward striking a balance with additional funding coming from ticket sales, marketing and sponsorships, community support, suite leases and capital gifts complementing student and institutional support.

    She said the university recently received a $1 million contribution to Bobcat athletics, the largest gift ever in support of athletics at Texas State. That gift came from Texas State alumnus Darren Casey, a San Antonio businessman.

    University officials say the current NCAA moratorium on moving within football subdivisions presents a unique opportunity to implement a comprehensive plan for the football transition.

    “We want to be ready to step forward when the moratorium is lifted,” said Larry Teis, Texas State director of athletics. “We know what needs to be done, and now it is time to take the next steps.”

    Benchmarks for a strategic plan have already been recommended by the Athletics Strategic Planning Committee, appointed by Trauth in May 2007. That committee made several specific recommendations regarding athletics at Texas State, including maintaining academic success, facilities improvements, competitive success in all programs, increased attendance at athletic events and the move to the NCAA FBS.

    The Texas State President’s Cabinet endorsed the committee’s report in November, and it then received the approval of the Associated Student Government, which sponsored the student referendum. With approval by the students, an affirmative vote by the TSUS Regents will formally implement the process.

    There will be a reception to celebrate the successful passage of the referendum at 10:45 a.m. Thursday, Feb. 14, in the LBJ Student Center ballroom.



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  297. Kazz November 11, 2010 11:32 pm

    I’m STICKING to match Stretch’s pledge to match a $100.00 donation ($50.00 per semester) to the UH Foundation for athletics to mirror what the students are paying.

    I’m not going to stand by and see it all go down the drain!!!!!!!!!!!

  298. Kazz November 11, 2010 11:35 pm


  299. al November 12, 2010 12:18 am

    ahouse…pay attention please.

    we (me and others) has brought the verbal commit from blake muir the aussie. no he’s not 6’7″, only 6’5 3/8″ and 284 lbs of solid mass. he’s enrolling in january ’11 and goes on scholie during the summer. he’ll probably redshirt the first year as he gets acclimated and learns the american game.

    he’s the only aussie.

    now there’s another poly that resides east of the aussie. but his identity is a well guarded secret so no ask just trust.

  300. al November 12, 2010 12:21 am

    “we (me and others) has brought the verbal commit from blake muir the aussie.”

    sorry messed that one up.

    try again.

    we, (me and others) have brought up the aussie verbal commit on several occasions. blake muir is the aussie.

  301. al November 12, 2010 12:23 am

    ya think 6k will show up tomw night?

  302. Kekoa (iPhone) November 12, 2010 1:22 am

    Al ~ No…but I’ve been wrong before.

    Kazz ~ Arbuckle is a beast on the boards! She needs to learn to put a soft touch on her put back shots. She shoots wildly, like riccochet rabbit!

  303. Pomai November 12, 2010 2:19 am

    #303 – al your talking about the Na Wahine Softball game right?

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  306. Michigan Warrior November 12, 2010 2:39 am

    Happy birthday, T Chahng!!!

  307. BigHiloFan2 November 12, 2010 3:30 am

    Good morning Tsaikos everywhere.

    Great news about the three new addys.

  308. Michigan Warrior November 12, 2010 3:54 am

    #296… Kazz… Wow!

    The comparison between how we think and how a new WAC member in Texas State thinks, needs to be reported on the front page. We want to be on the big stage and taken seriously, but won’t do what’s necessary to get there. And I’m not talking about going Independent. We need to get our act together while we still have the support of being in a conference first.

    Imagine a minimum of $10 mil a year for the UHAD, just generated by fees? UH needs to include ALL smaller campuses. They are losing half of their possible fees by restricting it to Manoa. Perhaps the neighbor island campuses can come up with their own tailor-made fees, specific to their location.

    And then they get random gifts like the mil donated by an alumnus turned business man.

    Just wondering… does anyone know, off-hand, how much the present fee will cost the students at UHManoa, per semester hour, once it goes into effect? The article says that, as of 2008, the Texas State fee was $10 per semester hour, and that it will be doubled by 2013.

    Anyways, great find, Kazz! Thanks!

  309. BigHiloFan2 November 12, 2010 4:05 am

    Chancellor’s Office

    Posted: Jul. 15, 2010

    The University of Hawai‘i Board of Regents today approved a UH Mānoa student athletic fee of $50 per semester that will go into effect in Spring (January) 2011.

    “The goal of this investment is for our students to benefit from a strong, visible sports program that magnifies UH Mānoa’s image, along with encouraging greater student participation in athletic events—providing memorable experiences that connect them with UH Mānoa now and throughout their lives,” said UH Mānoa Chancellor Virginia S. Hinshaw.

    “I’m grateful for Chancellor Hinshaw’s leadership on this issue. I firmly believe that today’s decision will provide a great long-term benefit to our University—both in the student experience and eventually in expanded philanthropy,” said Athletics Director Jim Donovan.

    The projected $2 million raised annually by the fee will go to the Athletics Department for support of student-athletes, through scholarships, travel, materials and supplies, and other expenses—but not staff compensation or benefits.

    The fee will also enable Mānoa students to attend home athletic events simply by showing their ID cards—a first for the campus. For example, 5,000 seats (10%) of Aloha Stadium will be set aside for Mānoa students for Warrior football games.

    In addition, 5-8% of the revenues ($100,000-$160,000) will be set aside for student activities, as determined by a Student Athletic Fee Committee controlled by a student majority.

    “Our next step is to determine details of the student benefit package through working with a new Student Athletic Fee Committee that is predominantly students and represent different student organizations,” said Chancellor Hinshaw.

  310. BigHiloFan2 November 12, 2010 4:06 am

    so…. da math says that if you do 12 semester hours, at fifty bucks….

    hmmmm…. where is Jason??????????? :mrgreen:

  311. BigHiloFan2 November 12, 2010 4:13 am

    ooo.. did i mention…. Texas get oil….

    an plenny hillbellys…. 😆

  312. Bulla November 12, 2010 4:22 am

    good morning Tsaikos,

    yes, let’s all get excited about the new teams to the WAC, another giant step in establishing the WAC as a bona fide conference. what a day of celebration for current members. imagine the excitement of playing a team that hasn’t even played a collegiate football game yet….check my blood pressure, just too much anticipation, sitting here on pins and needles…

    love the fact that JD is keeping UH options open…..staying in the WAC is a means to an end at this point, and UH should continue to look for what is best for the program in the ‘long run’ and not only the current times…

    just my 2 sense…..

  313. Garret November 12, 2010 5:07 am

    SDSU gets $10 million in Athletic Fees from their students.

    About 6 years ago they just got $2 million, so their President let their students vote on a fee increase that would get them to $6 million per year. The students voted no…and the SDSU President then implemented the fee increase anyway!

    A couple of years ago the President let the students vote on another $4 million student fee increase. The students voted no…and the SDSU President then implemented the fee increase anyway!

    SDSU used the money to upgrade its facilities and coaching staffs. Their basketball team now wins 20+ games and makes the NCAA tournament every year. The football team went from the bottom of the MWC to a 7-2 record that could win the MWC title if they beat TCU on Saturday.

    So, Texas State will eventually get $10 million in student fees…SDSU gets that already and has shown how it can lead to success when spent wisely. This is happening in California, not just in Texas.

  314. Michigan Warrior November 12, 2010 5:19 am

    Mahalo, BHF2.

    Yeah, Texas has oil, but students don’t get to share in any oil revenue for schooling, do they? I know that Alaska shares it’s oil money with state residents, but didn’t know that Texas does.


    Actually, if we all think about it, many of these teams from the WAC that are finding success would’ve made the WAC an automatic qualifier IF the WAC had taken care of it’s own. We are partly to blame for not wanting to sign the first loyalty agreement before the MWC schools ran away. Now we want to complain about it. We should be complaining to the WAC front office for not promoting the conference as it should have been. The MWC has been agressive about it since day one. While, we’ve just sat back and let them zoom by.

    Like I said, before Boise joined, it seemed as though Benson had the WAC’s best interests at heart. After Boise joined, he seemed to be so preocupied in Boise’s success, that it feels like he forgot about representing the rest of the conference.

    We did it to ourselves for letting him get away with mediocrity. And we continue to do it to ourselves. I mean, c’mon… a D-IAA school in Texas pays nearly triple what we pay for in Activity Fees… and in a couple of years, that amount will double to $20 per semester hour.

    We want a big time D-IA program, with all the respect and acknowledgements that come with it, but we can’t even fill the stadium, even with USC, or a nationally ranked team as our opponent. Our state doesn’t have a “UH Culture” yet. The whole state should be bleeding green. It should be nearly impossible to get tickets for games at the stadium, the SSC, the Les, Wahine Softball, etc. That would help us get out of the red and build the support our university needs. But, no… we have to be undefeated with just a couple of games to go in the season before we get that kind of community support. Oh yeah, sure, let’s go Indy and play a bunch of D-IAA schools, and see what kind of excitement that stirs, and what our home game attendance will be. Yup, we got fans scattered throughout the mainland, but we can’t even fill our own stadium at home. That’s probably another thing that TV people like ESPN looked at. Without Boise, no one else can fill their own stadiums. The assumption of a national tv fan base doesn’t look too appealing.

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