Waiting games

While Air Force, BYU and Boise State are mulling offers from the Big East, and the college basketball season is under way, the Warriors appear to be in a holding pattern … on a starting quarterback, Greg McMackin’s status, the future of the Mountain West, and so forth.

These side stories — and Fresno State’s shortcomings this year — have overshadowed what used to be one of the Warriors’ most passionate rivalries.

For now, we wait.

* * * * *

• David Graves and Shane Austin again split reps today. UH is nearing a decision, but won’t announce it until game time.


• With Royce Pollard back and running without discomfort, Trevor Davis has moved back to left wideout.

• Remember the name Donnie King. The slotback might have a role in the next three weeks.


* * * * *

Happy birthday to Diana, the Queen of Kapolei.

COMMENTS

  1. jm2375 November 16, 2011 6:41 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    First!


  2. jm2375 November 16, 2011 6:42 am

    GO WARRIORS!!

    Pound dem puppies!


  3. Bulla November 16, 2011 6:49 am

    #3………….


  4. whitey November 16, 2011 6:53 am

    good morning tsaikos and have a good day.


  5. Bulla November 16, 2011 6:53 am

    wish we could see the game this week, but will be in Portland cheering on ‘the beast’ and his team mates in their final game for this season.

    coach ron mcbride will be retiring this season, (the other coach mac), has always taken care of the boys from the 808 going back to chris maafaala at University of Utah and others.

    next year, Weber State opens their season against Fresno State in the dog pound…..

    Go Warriors, show the naysayers what’s the real deal….. no matter what, you still wearing the green and black, and you have to protect your house….always.

    GO WARRIORS

    GO WILDCATS X 2


  6. koakane ip4 November 16, 2011 7:09 am

    morning


  7. kawika49 November 16, 2011 7:14 am

    Ai soos!; psst, psst, pacquiao will be at the game this weekend.


  8. LizKauai (iPad) November 16, 2011 7:26 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

    Go Cats x2

    GO WARRIORS!


  9. LizKauai (iPad) November 16, 2011 7:28 am

    We have a new omiyage shop in Waimea. I hear the pies are good…

    Who’s picking me up at the airport Saturday? :mrgreen:


  10. 422-2222 November 16, 2011 7:30 am

    LizKauai – I will, call me


  11. Ipu Man November 16, 2011 7:30 am

    ten


  12. Ipu Man November 16, 2011 7:30 am

    not


  13. J November 16, 2011 7:41 am

    LizKauai,

    LAX or SAN? 😀


  14. Bryson November 16, 2011 7:55 am

    #14 :by potential recruit you mean that he wants to go to UH but UH hasn’t offered or called him yet?


  15. Bryson November 16, 2011 7:57 am

    He could always walk on….sometimes the hungrier you are the harder you work…alot of great examples on the roster


  16. letsgowarriors November 16, 2011 7:57 am

    UH had initial contact but not offering.


  17. letsgowarriors November 16, 2011 7:58 am

    y walk on when u have other offers to go to college for free?


  18. tommui November 16, 2011 7:58 am

    GOOD MORNING HAWAII!

    #14 – what position?


  19. letsgowarriors November 16, 2011 8:01 am

    slot/wr


  20. Bryson November 16, 2011 8:01 am

    What school if you don’t mind me asking?


  21. Bryson November 16, 2011 8:05 am

    I can see Mack not announcing the starting QB as a strategic plan…Fresno can’t prepare for Austin or Graves specifically if they don’t know who’s starting…Personally though we’ve seen what Austin can do…Id like to see Graves get a chance after all he may be the future QB for the next couple of years


  22. spisskyhrad November 16, 2011 8:06 am

    not too sure about comment related to “status of McMackin” – but his team was totally competitive with Nevada despite the loss of Mo – that relates to team spirit and coaching preparation. McMackin is a quality guy who knows his business – time outs with Colorado.

    As far as recruiting goes, the Nevada game showed that despite a vast number of injuries a lot of previous 2nd stringers did pretty well.

    Bottom line, the WAC conference is one wild place to play football as talent levels ebb and flow between conferences and teams. If you want to gripe, go to a Fresno State blog.


  23. BigWave96744 November 16, 2011 8:14 am

    Re:#14, hope you are not in Nakoa 🙂


  24. Garret November 16, 2011 8:23 am

    I hope that the Warriors know who their starting QB is already but are just not announcing it to the press. If the starting QB hasn’t been decided upon by the end of today’s practice, that would be worrisome.

    It was reported on Monday that Shutter would be the #3 QB but wouldn’t get any reps. It was reported yesterday that Shutter got some reps. Could that be because Graves was feeling ill, as ST reported?

    Graves getting sick is really bad timing for his competition/preparation for the Fresno State game…


  25. ai-eee-soos November 16, 2011 8:24 am

    SMASH ’em; nevah mind the “other” stories. SMASH Fresno.

    ” … These side stories — and Fresno State’s shortcomings this year — have overshadowed what used to be one of the Warriors’ most passionate rivalries.

    … “


  26. Garret November 16, 2011 8:25 am

    This article hasn’t been posted here yet–it appears that BYU may want their decision on the Big East to be delayed a few months. That means this whole process could drag on even longer.

    BYU has been invited to join the Big East as a football-only member, but, for now, BYU has not accepted the invitation, according to a Washington, D.C. columnist.

    The Washington Examiner’s Jim Williams, whose expertise is sports business and media, has talked to numerous sources on the East Coast that have told him that an invitation has been extended and that BYU officials are in favor of a move to the Big East.

    If things are progressing well, if they let it go into January, BYU may be more apt to say yes.

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700198259/BYU-football-Cougars-invited-to-join-Big-East-but-have-not-accepted-invitation-2-yet.html


  27. Garret November 16, 2011 8:33 am

    Fresno Bee article about the game.

    Fresno State is allowing an average of 37.4 points and 444 total yards per game while forcing a mere seven turnovers, all among the worst marks in the nation.

    Against New Mexico State, Fresno State allowed 500 total yards, and ex-Bulldogs walk-on Matt Christian rolled up 360 passing yards and two touchdowns.

    http://www.fresnobee.com/2011/11/15/2616128/injuries-increase-bulldogs-chances.html


  28. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 16, 2011 8:33 am

    New Mexico is said to be hiring Bob Davie as HC. Interesting hire.


  29. Garret November 16, 2011 8:34 am

    Utah State’s coach says that the Fresno State players may lose their motivation now that they cannot make a bowl game.

    Utah State’s Andersen said Fresno State could be facing a tough task staying focused after going to a bowl in 11 of the past 13 seasons.

    “If you’re a team that’s going to bowls and been on that side of the fence, it gets a little bit difficult,” Andersen said. “At that point, you kind of have to rely on your youth, do some different things to keep fighting.

    “Kids are competitors. Kids play for a lot of reasons. But it can be a touchy scenario.”

    http://www.fresnobee.com/2011/11/15/2616128/injuries-increase-bulldogs-chances.html#ixzz1dtatEOuk


  30. Garret November 16, 2011 8:35 am

    Pat Hill said that he didn’t fire his DC.

    Stewart privately met with Hill for 61/2 hours Sunday and elected to voluntarily step down, Hill said.

    “I’ve been here 15 years — I’ve never fired a coach,” Hill said during his weekly news conference Monday that was much more subdued compared to a week ago. “This is a first for me. But we’re in very, very tough times. Randy felt that right now, a change in [who was] running the defense hopefully would spark our football team.”

    http://www.fresnobee.com/2011/11/14/2614832/hill-says-he-didnt-force-stewart.html


  31. Garret November 16, 2011 8:38 am

    Fresno State actually only pays Hill $258k, the rest of his $650k total salary comes from their version of Na Koa. To buy out Hills contract, Fresno State would just have to pay about $400k and their version of Na Koa would have to pay $600k to $700k.

    Hill has two seasons remaining under his current contract that annually pays him $258,168 by the university and $391,832 from the athletic corporation. Under Hill’s state-based contract, the university would be required to pay him 80% of his contract to buy him out. Hill’s buyout clause with the athletic corporation is not known.

    http://www.fresnobee.com/2011/11/14/2614832/hill-says-he-didnt-force-stewart.html#ixzz1dtbTZwHj


  32. Garret November 16, 2011 8:40 am

    Fresno State has a LOT of injuries in their secondary, a huge problem for them when facing UH’s offense. They just lost another safety for the season, so they will start a walk-on against UH that has been their #3 safety. One of their WRs will play safety against UH this week. They are also moving a freshman to play CB against the Warriors.

    All of those injuries in Fresno’s secondary should help whatever QB UH starts against Fresno State.

    Safety Zak Hill is out for the remainder of the season with a broken hand, so senior J.J. Stallworth will move from receiver to serve as the No. 4 safety. The staff had considered moving Stallworth to cornerback earlier this season.

    Walk-on Cris Wilson is expected to start in Hill’s absence.

    Also, redshirt freshman Sean Alston will move back to cornerback after switching to safety earlier. Alston began the season at cornerback before injuries prompted his position switch.


  33. LizKauai November 16, 2011 8:45 am

    Healing energy to Alex Green who undergoes surgery today…

    J- I wish! This time HNL…

    jm#### gets the first piece of pie… 😆


  34. LizKauai November 16, 2011 8:47 am

    From Alex’s mom on fb:

    “Alex’s surgery went very well. Doctor was amazed at how good his knee looked. Thanks for your prayers. Time for recovery and rehab.”

    Mahalo, Ke Akua!


  35. expat November 16, 2011 8:52 am

    We have some very talented QBs on the roster or in the wings. Austin and Graves are both quality players. Stump and Spain look like they can both play and contribute. The most important to me though are Higgins and Shutter. We know both of those guys are competitors and winners and they are both local products who ultimately ended up home.

    We have attracted good QB talent over the RNS years. One issue has been in retaining that talent. Look at Steele Jantz — he has been competing in the Big 12 this year. If our starters go down we need to have quality in the backup positions. For the QB position it means having guys like Shutter and Higgins sticking around to compete even if they are not numbers 1 and 2 and don’t necessarily see a path to playing time (an issue Jantz seems to have had).

    Maybe I am wrong but I think we are more likely to retain our depth-chart QBs if they are local products. It is also great to see local products like Chang, Funaki, and Moniz (just to name a few) contribute and have success as QBs in the UH system as QB is the highest profile position.

    Some of the backup QBs in the RNS era at UH have had the most productive pro (though not NFL obviously) careers. It is also critical to developing local coaching talent. Funaki is very bright guy and if he chose coaching he could go far – like coaches Niumatalolo and Jasper from the Wagner days.


  36. Stretch November 16, 2011 8:53 am

    Waiting games…. Patience…. It will happen…. It’s a matter time


  37. Slugger November 16, 2011 8:53 am

    Good morning, gang!

    GO WARRIORS!!!


  38. bigislandkurt November 16, 2011 9:00 am

    Just what is going on with Fresno anyway? Could the California budget crisis be taking its toll on traditional powerhouse state schools like Fresno, Cal, and UCLA?

    BIK


  39. Garret November 16, 2011 9:07 am

    Chad Owens was named the CFL’s special teams all-star. They only pick 1 special teams player for that all-star squad, so Chad earned a big honor.

    http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111116/111116_CFL_All_Stars/20111116/?hub=CP24Sports


  40. A-TEAM November 16, 2011 9:12 am

    Who’s hosting tailgate party for UH fans/families from mainland. I was at San Jose game. There was more smoke coming from UH lot than SJ.


  41. Wes'side Warrior November 16, 2011 9:13 am

    Howzit, everyone!

    Yep, lots of extra stories permeating the landscape. Just gotta win!

    As far as our backups…

    There’s one glaring fact that most of you are forgetting about. It’s easy to compare our backups to every other backup in different offensive systems. Easy, but incorrect.

    Our offense relies on both QB and Receivers to make the right read. Also need the RB to make the right read and slide over to block on the correct side of the line. Just about every other team we face normally will have a set offense with set routes for their Receivers to run, thereby making their QB’s job easier to guess at which of his Receivers to throw to. This makes training for their skill positions a heck of a lot easier, which allows backups to slide in already knowing that the “complicated” factor has been removed.

    I’ve never played in such a system where we came up to the line of scrimmage and had to make reads based on who is where on defense. When I ran routes, I knew exactly how deep to go before cutting, hooking, juking, whatevas.

    People can talk all they want about being or not being prepared, but until these boys get into game time situations, with opposing coaches trying to out-guess you, that’s the only way to truly gain experience.


  42. LizKauai November 16, 2011 9:13 am

    CHee Hoo for Mighty Mouse!!!


  43. Stretch November 16, 2011 9:15 am

    A-TEAM:

    November 16th, 2011 at 9:12 am

    Who’s hosting tailgate party for UH fans/families from mainland. I was at San Jose game. There was more smoke coming from UH lot than SJ.

    You’re not kidding about the smoke…. oh wait, you are talking about the hibachi kine


  44. Bowwar November 16, 2011 9:18 am

    This weekend’s game will be a “barnburner”…Both teams have suffered “subpar” seasons due to injuries. I’m sure there will be alot of “passion” on the field and it will get down to “who wants it more”…

    IMUA Warriors!


  45. Wes'side Warrior November 16, 2011 9:22 am

    Again, talk of how much Coach A gets compared to Coach B…

    And how does Coach A’s total salary truly compare to Coach B’s salary, when the cost of living adjustment is factored in?

    And, hasn’t Coach Mack taken a voluntary pay reduction these past couple of years? Did other UH coaches join him? He was offered an initial contract, which he accepted. Not like he demanded $1.1 mil from the get go. What happened to the funds UH saved by these voluntary reductions? Did it go to other coaches? To paying down the UHAD deficit? Just wondering…


  46. al November 16, 2011 9:22 am

    i agree that a decision should be made by day’s end.

    what took them so long?

    they should have known who is the next guy up. after all we are ten games in to the season.

    subliminal messages in all this is that i believe the qb coach aka oc has his opinion but it is being overuled(second guessed) by the hc.

    so instead of naming the guy he takes a “virtual timeout”.


  47. Wes'side Warrior November 16, 2011 9:25 am

    And now, here comes Fresno State… which I consider to be a bigger rivalry than most other schools we play.

    Never know how a down-and-out team will perform. We gotta watch the bad blood and keep from getting into fights too. Don’t need people getting suspended for any of these final games.

    And, please take care of school work in a timely manner!!!


  48. al November 16, 2011 9:26 am

    ferd lewis portrays the tale of two programs, once proud rivals. this was the game the wac thought would be one for all the marbles. as it is, there is but one marble to play for.

    one or both coaches future may or will hinge upon the outcome.


  49. jojo ® November 16, 2011 9:28 am

    Good morning everyone! If these guys go Big East, well, then we’ll see how it goes. Don’t get too ahead!


  50. madeinhawaii November 16, 2011 9:34 am

    morning


  51. WWF November 16, 2011 9:36 am

    #36 It really is the opportunity to play that keeps the QB depth deep. Without an opportunity to play, most competitive QB’s will transfer.

    The Coaches should devise a system that could develop depth faster at all positions, we would probably see more consistency of wins each season. Injury in football should be an expectation and the team should be prepared with depth.


  52. Pomai November 16, 2011 9:50 am

    #24 – BigWave96744 – doesn’t matter if he is nakoa or not he’s a booster = NCAA violation


  53. Pomai November 16, 2011 9:55 am

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  54. walter November 16, 2011 9:58 am

    Mack is now phoning it in. He’s not recruiting as hard as he should be because he knows he’s done.


  55. madeinhawaii November 16, 2011 10:04 am

    WWF:

    It’s called recruiting from high schools, which is pretty much what Mack and Company have focused on … problem is, as a mid-major, non AQ, our high school recruits generally need two to three years to literally grow into their roles. If we were AQ with our fair share of 4 star recruits out of high school, we could have depth in a couple of years rather than 4.

    2007-2008 was a pretty poor recruiting year, especially for quality high school recruits. I believe many of the 2008-9 recruits are getting their first season of experience… 2009-10 recruits are just coming off of their red shirt seasons or on their red-shirt season after gray shirting a semester. The JC recruits come and go in between – filling in the critical areas … but you can’t build depth with JC recruits as most would be single position players given their limited years with the program.

    If we haven’t lost too many of our gray shirts, we should have pretty good depth next season with the exception of a couple positions on Defense. Overall, much better than this season.


  56. 808bowler November 16, 2011 10:12 am

    Congrats Chad!!#!! Keep up the gud work!!!


  57. AlaWai November 16, 2011 10:15 am

    Pomai:

    Hawai`i 50 FSU 0

    Go Coach Mac! Show ’em.


  58. 808bowler November 16, 2011 10:16 am

    As for that slot/wr maybe we have depth at that position. I know we have a bunch redshirting this year.


  59. TChahng November 16, 2011 10:19 am

    Pomai,

    49 – 14 TChahng

    Mahalo!


  60. LizKauai November 16, 2011 10:38 am

    A-TEAM: not sure what question you are asking.

    Who hosted the Hawaii TG at SJSU?

    Who hosts TGs in Hawaii for Hawaii fans visiting from the mainland?

    ???


  61. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2011 10:40 am

    Had a nice chat with the Stump Godfrey today. That guy has a powerful arm. He reminds me of that UAB quarterback who played in the Hawaii Bowl.


  62. Jayson November 16, 2011 10:44 am

    #59

    I agree! I moved back to HI from NY about a year and a half ago and miss it a lot, especially this time of year.


  63. Old Diver November 16, 2011 10:44 am

    #55

    Good points MIH.


  64. letsgowarriors November 16, 2011 10:44 am

    darrell hackney. i hope stump doesnt get as huge as him! lol


  65. letsgowarriors November 16, 2011 10:45 am

    wats this talk about mack getting another Mr. Texas? i didnt catch the call the coach show last night.


  66. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2011 10:52 am

    Letsgo:

    That’s the guy. Thanks. And, yes, that guy was huge. Godfrey’s not. But he sure can throw the rock.


  67. SteveM November 16, 2011 10:54 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Threading water between games…


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  70. Wes'side Warrior November 16, 2011 11:06 am

    Way to go, Mighty Mouse!!!


  71. Wes'side Warrior November 16, 2011 11:19 am

    Happy birthday, Diana!!!


  72. A-House November 16, 2011 11:25 am

    Happy Birfday to Diana – queen of Kekoa’s household!

    and Happy Birfday to all announcements last week as we were out of touch for the past 10 days!


  73. WWF November 16, 2011 11:26 am

    #55 MIH I wasn’t referring to recruiting, but implementing practices with number 2’s and 3’s going through reps instead of “mental reps”. Rotating number 2’s and 3’s into the rotation of reps where possible. Creating ways to get the RNS players up and running faster then absorbing metal reps watching from the sidelines.

    The second and third and deeper QB’s throwing to second and third and deeper slots and WR’s, developing the RNS faster, developing depth at all positions.

    Developing depth at the QB position, slots and WR, so that the offensive production does not suffer when an injury occurs.

    Regardless of 4 star or 5 star recruiting, me personally, I would rather have a walk on with a killer work ethic than a 5 star who may lack the motivation to improve.


  74. ai-eee-soos November 16, 2011 11:27 am

    Good to see these guys getting ready.

    Donnie King – show ’em what ya got.

    ” … • David Graves and Shane Austin again split reps today. UH is nearing a decision, but won’t announce it until game time.

    • With Royce Pollard back and running without discomfort, Trevor Davis has moved back to left wideout.

    • Remember the name Donnie King. The slotback might have a role in the next three weeks.

    … “


  75. Not an Expert November 16, 2011 11:27 am

    The MWC network needs to have their television contract redone now. The network needs to step up to the table and bring in more money to have the conference survive. If they don’t the product will be diluted and fall lower into obscurity by the time the original contract ends.

    Thus if the MWC network wants to help out the MWC they either negotiate and bring more money to the table and allow the schools some flexibility with their local affiliates or sell the network rights to another network. If none of the above happens it will not hold well for the future of the MWC.


  76. ai-eee-soos November 16, 2011 11:32 am

    If that’s the situation, I wouldn’t surprised if someone takes a hike.

    ———————————————————————

    ” … they should have known who is the next guy up. after all we are ten games in to the season.

    subliminal messages in all this is that i believe the qb coach aka oc has his opinion but it is being overuled(second guessed) by the hc. … “


  77. A-House November 16, 2011 11:33 am

    gotta agree with IWWTHM in terms of what is still in the “cupboard” for the Warriors the past 2 recruiting classes – unfortunate for the injured players, but it gave the coaches the opoportunity to play many “reserves” which should bode well for 2012 and beyond – perhaps, the play time experience will be more what the coaches envisioned rather than by demand due to injuries – surely they can work out a system to get more playing time for the youngsters!

    hope the coaches can begin the recuriting “reloading” process sooner than expected with the move to the MWC – if there will be a competitive MWC with all the invitations and expected defections to the Big East and or Big 12 – what’s this on another Texas prospect? -still jet lagged and went to bed early – just don’t want to admit I’m an “old fart”.

    must admit that the “new” QBs for all the teams UH faced were of much better talent than I imagined – future looks good for those teams regradless of conference affiliation.


  78. Pomai November 16, 2011 11:43 am

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  79. A-House November 16, 2011 11:44 am

    ditto for #74 – yep, coaches must create a new system, if that’s what it takes, to better prepare the “reserves” for field time duty – be it regular rotation or injury created!

    #76 – there may be no MWC or a very diluted one when the TV contract expires in 2015 or 2016. really, how attractive would a combined MWC/C-USA be to TV decision makers? some say the size of market should help – yes, but why did it not help before with the current contract? kinda reminds me of the famous USA slogan of “big is always better” which led to the demise of the US auto industry when Japanese and European countries exported the “smaller, but fuel efficient cars” to USA!

    like the BYU to Big East and connection with UFC – someone mentioned the large “morman” population in Orlando – why count this now when TV peps did not even consider the number of households on the mainland that would tune in to a UH game – here or on the mainland?


  80. madeinhawaii November 16, 2011 11:44 am

    WWF,

    I don’t think you will find too many 5 stars who don’t want to improve. I mean, they “know” in their bones that they are capable of moving on to the next level if they keep improving.

    I don’t know if there are enough hours in practice to allow for that many repetitions for all the Q-backs and receivers. Not enough coaches to go around as well. I suspect they get a lot more reps on their own working with their fellow team mates. We always hear how the senior players are helping the newer players with their positions and helping them to get a better grasp of the play book. Gray shirts and red shirts are probably more into conditioning, body building and academics, too. Got to remember that they are full-time students, part-time athletes at the college level.


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  82. Old School Dave November 16, 2011 11:59 am

    Read that Aaron Rodgers was 5.11 165 coming out of HS with no D-1 offers. Turned down Ivy League schools in order to go to Butte JC for one year. Cal came calling the next year. There are many late bloomers like that out and about. Just takes some sharp recruiting to find them.

    Interesting bit on Ron McBride, with a Hawaii connection:

    http://www.deseretnews.com/blog/41/10012644/Rockmonster-unplugged-McBrides-missionary-zeal.html


  83. madeinhawaii November 16, 2011 12:06 pm

    Older article on why going for it on fourth and short may be a statistically better risk than kicking it. A somewhat lengthy but well-studied read.

    http://www.sportsquant.com/fourth.pdf


  84. d1shima November 16, 2011 12:08 pm

    Happy Birthday Diana! 🙂


  85. HawaiiMongoose November 16, 2011 12:12 pm

    Garret, re #29, I think Mack solved that problem for Pat Hill by “guaranteeing” a Hawaii victory on Saturday.


  86. Slugger November 16, 2011 12:16 pm

    Hau’oli la hanau, Queen Diana!


  87. Dan-O November 16, 2011 12:28 pm

    #39…..let’s not forget to mention that Solomon Elimimian made First-Team CFL as a linebacker, and was second in the league in tackles. If not for injury (and missing the last two games of the season), he would have led the league.


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    QB depth chart for next season and the MWC:

    David Graves, Cayman Shutter, Stump Godfrey, Jeremy Higgans, Kevin Spain, Ikaika Woolsey. Possible: Justin Alo.

    Graves and Shutter will be Juniors next year. Godfrey and Spain will be Sophomores. Higgins is either a soph or jr. Woolsley will be a freshman. Alo a freshman if he joins the program. Al, do we have a “holy grail” among them? Or do we keep looking?

    Urban Meyer turned down a possible Head Coaching position at Arizona. Would he be interested in Hawaii? Who knows? The intrigue for him in Hawaii is the challenge. There is no pressure on him. When I say that, I mean not the kind of pressure that the BCS teams have. There are expectations, yes, but not the kind where he would have heart problems.

    The plus for Hawaii would be great weather. At best, Hawaii can only pay Meyer about $1 million in salary, but maybe people can find some other perks for him, such as: 1) rent free condo or free use of a house by a generous booster, travel perks, shoe and apparel contracts from endorsements like Nike, country club membership with the likes of Waialae CC, or Oahu CC, or Mid-Pac CC, speaking engagement fees, commercials. He would probably ask for better pay for his assistants by I think that would be doable. All those “perks” could increase his income and additional $500,00 or more. Plus, his daughter is scheduled to play volleyball at Penn St. as a freshman. Maybe, she can transfer to Hawaii?????? Meyer doesn’t have to prove anything and he doesn’t need a high profile or a high stress job. Hawaii would be perfect for him and actually would help his health and easy, laidback lifestyle of Hawaii. He has worked at places like Bowling Green and Utah, non BCS programs and has won big at all of those places. He doesn’t need the big money since he’s already set for life. He has seen snow. At Hawaii, he would be able to see lava, the ocean, and snow on one day!!!!! He can surf, golf, whatever. I think he would be perfect.

    And I think he would be able to woo the top local talent instead of going to the mainland.


  90. Derek November 16, 2011 12:40 pm

    P.S. And, may I add, Meyer can get an acting spot on Hawaii Five O too!!!!

    And don’t forget that he can get some extra money on any football show he has, not to mention any extra bonuses on bowl games, conference championships, etc. BCS games would be nice too!!!! Just thinking out of the box!!!


  91. Ballpicker November 16, 2011 12:41 pm

    Pomai,

    Here is my hump day pick for Saturday’s game,

    32-24 Hawaii

    Go Warriors…


  92. Gary November 16, 2011 12:41 pm

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  95. Kaimiloa November 16, 2011 12:50 pm

    #90. Re: Meyer… Its nice to dream isn’t it? Daughter going to Penn State. Penn State needs a coach. Turns down a good offer at Arizona. Hmmm


  96. LizKauai November 16, 2011 12:50 pm

    #90- Coach Meyer can just ask Coach Mack what it’s like to coach in Hawaii…


  97. Couch potato November 16, 2011 12:51 pm

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  98. LizKauai November 16, 2011 12:51 pm

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    GO WARRIORS!!!


  99. Bwhaha November 16, 2011 12:53 pm

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    November 16th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

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    LOTS OF LOVE AND UNITY


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  103. bigislandkurt November 16, 2011 1:10 pm

    Derek? You don’t think Hawaii football coach is a high stress job? I bet coach Mack begs to differ.

    Does UH want Meyer? Then they better put the “Punahou Mafia” out on his trail. Especially Hiram DeFries. 🙂

    BIK


  104. bigislandkurt November 16, 2011 1:12 pm

    Consider me a Stump Godfrey fan. I understand that he has a cannon for an arm. But is he accurate?

    BIK


  105. Jason November 16, 2011 1:15 pm

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  106. Garret November 16, 2011 1:22 pm

    MWC/BE update from the Denver Post–this is not the first article that has said that there will be 2 phases of BE expansion, one soon and one with AF if the Lt. Gen. decides they should change conferences.

    Air Force officials remained silent Monday about any plans to move from the Mountain West to the Big East Conference in football. Academy spokesman David Cannon said Superintendent Lt. Gen. Michael Gould probably won’t take up the issue until the football season is over. A person close to the discussions at the Big East said the expansion focus for teams in the West may have shifted to Brigham Young and Boise State and that Air Force might not be involved in the initial phase of adding new conference members.

    http://www.denverpost.com/afa/ci_19345046


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    Kaimiloa,

    The funny thing is that there are a number of reports stating that Penn State was trying to hire Meyer to take over after this season, way before the scandal hit. Meyer reportedly was interested but didn’t want to be blamed for forcing Paterno to retire.

    The source told SRU that school officials contacted Meyer Sept. 25 and expressed major interest in pursuing him as head coach should Paterno, in fact, decide to retire.

    Meyer was in State College to conduct a preseason interview with Penn State linebacker Mike Mauti, now out for the year with a torn ACL, and reportedly met with school president Graham Spanier and athletic director Tim Curley while on campus. Those talks apparently were productive.

    “Urban would love to have that job,” the source said. “Keep in mind, though, that he doesn’t want to be known as the guy who forced out Joe Paterno. It would have to be done in the right way. I think they could appeal to Joe Pa’s best interests and allow him to be the king-maker.”

    http://sportsrappup.com/sections/stories/11-10-07/The_Messy_Pursuit_Of_Urban.aspx


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  117. jm2375 November 16, 2011 1:37 pm

    Happy Birthday to the Queen!! Make sure your humble servant, Kekoa, treats you royally well!


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  119. al November 16, 2011 1:43 pm

    happy birthday diana


  120. al November 16, 2011 1:46 pm

    derek…last year I thought that mo came close. but it takes a team to build a holy grail. unfortunately we are missing some parts.


  121. warriorwriteup November 16, 2011 1:48 pm

    Looking forward to seeing what Graves can do, should he win the starting job.

    It’s Warrior Wednesday, which means it’s time for… http://bit.ly/urHMEg


  122. al November 16, 2011 1:50 pm

    whitey is correct…that fumble turned the game around last week.


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  124. Couch potato November 16, 2011 1:57 pm

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    even a penalty prevented a td.


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  126. Ralph November 16, 2011 2:01 pm

    USA Today : FB coaches base salary

    http://usat.ly/sNpruj


  127. Couch potato November 16, 2011 2:02 pm

    is somebody advertising/marketing the pacquiao appearance at the football game?


  128. Couch potato November 16, 2011 2:05 pm

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  130. Bowwar November 16, 2011 2:10 pm

    #93 Gary & #99 Liz: I AGREE thoroughly, I was cold, freezing, and miserable, but I was awfully PROUD of the Warriors last Saturday in Reno…They could have folded their tents early in the game, but they fought to the final whistle. I’m also proud of my fellow Warrior fans who braved the weather, lack of toilets, and poor parking in Reno to cheer on the team. We surely made alot of noise for a small group of 200 or so…

    IMUA Warriors!


  131. Andrew A. Sailer November 16, 2011 2:18 pm

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  132. Stretch November 16, 2011 2:18 pm

    Thanks Ralph for the link….

    Didn’t realize that Mack was the highest paid WAC coach at $1,115,004. Next is Pat Hill at $679,000. Almost $500,000 difference.

    Next season, with TCU out and Boise St looking like they are going to move, Mack will be the highest paid in the MWC. Second would be Air Force Troy Calhoun at $889,095 if they stick around.

    I guess you get what you pay for…. NOT!!


  133. WarriorNY November 16, 2011 2:30 pm

    @63,

    Yeah this time of year is nice. But I actually envy you in Hawaii… haha


  134. A.M. November 16, 2011 2:37 pm

    Great posts #93, 99, & 131! That’s the kind of sentiment that can positively influence recruiting & help our program go forward. (Its beyond me why some trash talk the coaches & program & then wonder aloud why we can’t attract the ‘best’ recruits.)


  135. anklebiters November 16, 2011 2:51 pm

    Pomai:

    UH – 20

    FSU – 35


  136. Hilo-Warrior November 16, 2011 3:05 pm

    I might have missed this but if the Graves and Austin competition is nearing an end who does it look like its leaning towards?


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  138. Gumby November 16, 2011 3:07 pm

    They most likely won’t say until right before game time. However, my hunch is that Graves gets the nod.


  139. AlaWai November 16, 2011 3:10 pm

    Intersting watch on ESPN2. Western Michigan at Miami Ohio. MAC game with both teams running quick paced RnS type schemes. Stands are empty!


  140. Da Punchbowl Kid November 16, 2011 3:12 pm

    Happy Birthday to kekoa’s better 99% the magnificent Lady Diana!


  141. Couch potato November 16, 2011 3:12 pm

    uhhh, it was written that it is a game time decision. or as pacquiao would say, “deshishoon”.


  142. RedZone November 16, 2011 3:28 pm

    Donnie King = Jet Sweep. That kid can motor. About time.

    Go Warriors.


  143. Hilo-Warrior November 16, 2011 3:31 pm

    I am a much bigger Graves fan and I hope he gets the nod. Because he needs more experience in the sense that he is the QB with the most experience going into our future and he has a bigger spark or the intangible to him then Austin does.


  144. Midnight November 16, 2011 3:36 pm

    Happy birthday to Diana!!!


  145. wafan November 16, 2011 3:43 pm

    Happy birthday to the Queen of the speedy backhand!

    Yay, Diana!!!

    How was Kekoa so lucky to marry a young woman?!?!

    Whoo-hoo!!!


  146. wafan November 16, 2011 3:46 pm

    Bulla . . .

    Bring your long-johns! Low-land snow forecast for the weekend. Dunno about Portland, though.

    Several nights of freezing temperatures already.


  147. wafan November 16, 2011 3:47 pm

    Pomai . . .

    Please change my guess to 38 – 21. Us, naturally!

    Thanks!!!


  148. wafan November 16, 2011 3:49 pm

    Does not matter who the qb is — just win!

    Go Warriors!!!


  149. Hawaiianbod November 16, 2011 4:49 pm

    Hauoli la hanau Aunty Diana!


  150. Hawaiianbod November 16, 2011 4:50 pm

    blog clock is waaaaay off.


  151. Shoko November 16, 2011 4:50 pm

    ST is attending practice and watching Austin and Graves, right? Would like to hear his assessment of who might start this weekend. But, I think he doesn’t want to give too much away.


  152. Shoko November 16, 2011 4:52 pm

    Interesting that Long Beach State is up nine points at the half against #9 Pittsburgh.


  153. ai-eee-soos November 16, 2011 5:33 pm

    UH baseball signs 9 to 2013 class

    http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/134008223.html?id=134008223


  154. ai-eee-soos November 16, 2011 5:43 pm

    Sportsbow says: UH offers S, Kaulana Waalani-Arroyo a scholarship. 6-1, 200.

    http://www.sportshawaii.com/sh/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=40938


  155. Shoko November 16, 2011 5:52 pm

    Pitt lost! Guess Pitt moving to the ACC created some bad mojo just like Boise State leaving the WAC.


  156. Diana November 16, 2011 6:25 pm

    Mahalo Tsaiko ohana for your good cheer!

    Kekoa has made reservations for my fave Lobster house dinner tonite He also made some travel plans for a little jet-away. (I’m thinking he was pressured by his beloved Tsaiko’s to add that gift…thanks jm2375!).

    Thank you Mr. Tsai for your acknowledgment of my birthday.


  157. whitey November 16, 2011 6:34 pm

    kekoa, you get class and are a gentleman. Happy Birthday Diana


  158. whitey November 16, 2011 6:38 pm

    Not going make any prediction, but wish da warriors well on the last three games. I know they going do good this sat cause duffer going to the game and he no like lose. i get other committments, so no can join the fun.


  159. whitey November 16, 2011 6:39 pm

    thanks to al and duffer for lunch today. i still stay full.


  160. papajoe2 November 16, 2011 6:39 pm

    I almost miss ’em. Happy birthday to Queen Diana! Hope you have a wonderful dinner!


  161. LizKauai (iPhone) November 16, 2011 7:00 pm

    S, Kaulana Waalani-Arroyo? Awesome Waimea hometown guy. :mrgreen;

    Diana- enjoy that lobster and a whisk away from the day to day for your birthday!!!


  162. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 16, 2011 7:28 pm

    happy birthday Diana!


  163. Garret November 16, 2011 7:53 pm

    Yesterday Sportsbow reported that UH offered JC DB Shaine Boyle a scholarship. He had a number of offers before UH (Indiana, NMSU, SJSU, etc.) offered, so he wasn’t an unknown recruit.

    One person mentioned that Boyle committed to Indiana today. It might not be coincidental that UH offered JC DB Kaulana Waalani-Arroyo today. According to scout.com, UH is Waalani-Arroyo’s first offer.

    The scout recruiting analyst for the Southwest also said that UH offered JC DB Travell Dixon yesterday. He had a zillion offers before yesterday and already visited Alabama.

    It appears that UH has made a big recruiting push for JC DBs this week.


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  165. Curt November 16, 2011 8:08 pm

    Happy Birthday Diana. Our very best to you on this special day. 🙂


  166. chawan_cut November 16, 2011 8:21 pm

    i wonder how many new fans pacquiao will bring into the stadium on saturday.


  167. Derek November 16, 2011 8:50 pm

    I enjoy watching MAC football games. They are very entertaining with lots of good offense, but not much defense. A lot of MAC teams run the spread offense and there are a lot of talented players in the skill positions and there are quite a bit of NFL prospects too. There are a lot of high scoring affairs such as 66-63, 63-60, etc. The 2 QBs today at Miami Ohio and Western Michigan both threw for over 400 yards, even tho the score was 24-21. One wide receiver, Jordan White#83 from Western Michigan is a bonafide NFL draft pick. He’s 6’1″ and 215 lbs. and has excellent hands and runs good routes. Green Bay Packers’ Greg Jennings went to Western Michigan too.


  168. niho mano November 16, 2011 9:01 pm

    Pomai;

    UH-28

    Fresno-17

    Go Warriors!


  169. SteveM November 16, 2011 9:05 pm

    Happy Birthday Diana !!!


  170. homey ℞ November 16, 2011 9:42 pm

    Happy Birthday D I A N A!


  171. LizKauai (macbook) November 16, 2011 9:44 pm

    Bowwar – Thanks for enduring the cold to cheer for the Warriors in Reno! We could HEAR you guys on the game broadcast!!!


  172. homey ℞ November 16, 2011 9:44 pm

    Will need to build a library wing at the stadium after the Pacquiao honoring.


  173. Bowwar November 16, 2011 10:06 pm

    LizKauai – We had to cheer loud and hard to match the efforts of our guys. They didn’t give up, so had to do the same. I applaud the other Warrior fans who were there & can attest to the team’s effort! I’ll be there this weekend as well cheering on our Warriors!

    IMUA Warriors!


  174. jm2375 November 16, 2011 10:12 pm

    missing the pidgin eloquence of bighilofan2, esq. Haven’t heard from him in a looooong time. 🙁


  175. Diana November 16, 2011 10:34 pm

    Back from Dindin. I now feel like I own 25% of Outback Restaurant in Kapolei!

    The upside is, I live to fight another day…j’like my Warriors!

    Pomai, let the record show that I have selected the Warriors to annihilate the opposition (the lowly pound pups):

    UH – 56

    Pups – 14


  176. LizKauai (macbook) November 16, 2011 10:39 pm

    Yea, Diana!


  177. LizKauai (macbook) November 16, 2011 10:40 pm

    Bowwar- hope you are coming to the Tsai-ko Gate! The FFFFF will be in FF – Full Force!


  178. LizKauai (macbook) November 16, 2011 10:42 pm

    homey- please bring more pig head… mmm. Right, Rob25?


  179. jm2375 November 16, 2011 10:42 pm

    hmmmm… Diana sounds suspiciously like Kekoa! 🙄 j/k


  180. Kekoa November 16, 2011 10:43 pm

    Pomai ~ Diana hijacked my score for the Frezneck honkies game!

    It forces me to come up with the *Statement* score of the year.

    Warrior Lads ~ 62

    Junkyard Poodles ~ 17


  181. jm2375 November 16, 2011 10:43 pm

    lizk – #179 – Rob25’s face is gonna look like dis :mrgreen:


  182. jm2375 November 16, 2011 10:46 pm

    Diana – I think Kekoa owes you at least one more steak dinner – from (pick one or all) Ruth’s Chris, Morton’s, Wolfgang’s Steakhouse (with Stretch’s $150 bottles of wine). 😀

    *running and hiding from Kekoa*


  183. Kekoa November 16, 2011 10:46 pm

    Jm ~ She’s crazy with powah now! I chased her back to her facebook pals!


  184. Diana November 16, 2011 10:56 pm

    Jm – I like Lobstah, not steak. Oh, no worry! My birthday will have no bounds!

    I tell you later what else he had to do for me…


  185. whitey November 16, 2011 11:15 pm

    Garret, good to see that da warriors are addressing their needs.


  186. whitey November 16, 2011 11:19 pm

    the game against fresno will be fun. in the past this has always been a toe to toe game. I truly don’t see it to be any different except that da warriors will prevail. sum say that whoever loses will lose their hc. hopefully, i hope it does not happen after this game, but if changes need to be made for any team, it will be done after the last game of the season.


  187. Kekoa November 16, 2011 11:26 pm

    G’nite all!


  188. LizKauai (macbook) November 16, 2011 11:43 pm

    Nitey Nite and Tsweet Warrior Dreams!


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  193. wafan November 17, 2011 3:22 am

    Good morning from the frozen Northwe(s)t!


  194. wafan November 17, 2011 3:23 am

    Wow! A lot of spam on the blog. Need to make rice.


  195. Kekoa November 17, 2011 3:38 am

    Wafan ~ I’ve often wondered why our blog gets hit so hard by the the spam bots. Hmmm…must be either the Oline or the coaching.


  196. Kekoa November 17, 2011 3:43 am

    Btw wafan, I’ve taken the keys to the WB away from Diana. She ‘jacked my 56 – 14 score last nite!…


  197. Midnight November 17, 2011 3:47 am

    Hi wafan and Kekoa! Have a good day, y’all – and all Tsaikos too! Hope Diana had a nice birthday too. Miss being with the Tsaikos.

    Healing thoughts for all ailing Warriors!

    Go Warriors! I like pulehu dogs!


  198. wafan November 17, 2011 3:49 am

    Hi Kekoa and Midnight!


  199. Pomai November 17, 2011 3:50 am

    UhvsFresno

    20    –    35    anklebiters

    21    –    10    Pomai

    27    –    20    22Tokyo

    28    –    03    tommui

    28    –    17    niho mano

    32    –    24    ballpicker

    38    –    21    wafan

    41    –    21    dpk

    42    –    37    bowwar

    42    –    30    glenn

    49    –    35    lizkauai

    49    –    14    tchahg

    50    –    00    alawai

    56    –    14    diana

    58    –    28    d1shima

    59    –    21    ipu ma

    62    –    17    kekoa


  200. wafan November 17, 2011 3:54 am

    Looks like Her Majesty had a long list of things for you to do, Kekoa. Surely, she is a kind and benevolent queen.

    Kinda like Cinderella?

    Maybe CinderKoa?


  201. wafan November 17, 2011 3:56 am

    Perhaps Cinderfella?

    HA!


  202. wafan November 17, 2011 3:57 am

    Snow level down to 500′ tomorrow. Hope Bulla and the lead Bomber bundle up for their game on Saturday!


  203. d1shima November 17, 2011 5:48 am

    Great Morning All!

    Nice to hear that the Queen of Kapolei had a nice b-day celebration.

    Hoping Mr. Edwards “zones-in” for a pik 6 or two this Saturday.


  204. d1shima November 17, 2011 5:56 am

    Pomai,

    supposobe 59 – 28

    Mahalo!


  205. ai-eee-soos November 17, 2011 5:57 am

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  206. d1shima November 17, 2011 6:07 am

    wafan,

    Hoping that the Yamhill Valley will be shielded from the snow!

    Brrrrrr!!!


  207. Candy November 17, 2011 6:10 am

    Whether is Austin or Graves it’s important that more than they supply the necessary spark in the game with Fresno. Even though decimated by injuries maybe the combined sparks can turn into lightning.

    Go Warriors


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