Free tickets; Waianae DT Keli‘ikipi commits to UH

I’ve got two free tickets to tonight’s basketball game. Post No. 225 gets them (however, the winner must stop by The Tizer to collect.)

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Wade Keli‘ikipi, a Waianae High defensive tackle and the younger brother of former Warrior West Keli‘ikipi, has accepted a football scholarship from the Warriors.
Keli‘ikipi is 6 feet 4 and 273 pounds.
He can bench press a maximum 405 pounds, as well as bench 225 pounds 30 times.


  1. HiFlyer November 14, 2008 12:38 am


    Wow another Dlineman

  2. IjUsThEaRd November 14, 2008 12:41 am

    I knew it. was in da store and heard one guy say that!!!!! We a close community out hear.

  3. Long Time UH Fan November 14, 2008 12:43 am

    Wow! I’m really enjoying hearing all this good news about these recruits….keep ’em coming!

  4. Committed Road Warrior November 14, 2008 12:43 am


    Boy is this recruiting class looking good!

  5. Stephen Tsai November 14, 2008 12:46 am

    There are some o-linemen coming up, too.

  6. letsgowarriors November 14, 2008 12:52 am

    oh baby! when u gonna break the news about the JC OTs!!!?

  7. IjUsThEaRd November 14, 2008 12:55 am

    brah, no can tease! wat, who?

  8. not far away anymore November 14, 2008 1:09 am

    An outstanding recruiting class so far. Looking forward to the O-lineman recruit announcements. We definitely could use some help in that area.

  9. al November 14, 2008 1:13 am

    i still say we need a running back and another jc cornerback to fill the list.
    okay, and one more wr’s and a jc cb too. and a jc dt.

    ok, ok. nuff already.

  10. letsgowarriors November 14, 2008 1:19 am

    nah cmon al, we recruited so many WRs the past 2 season to make up for JJs poor recruiting. last year we brought in 5 JC receivers. 3 of them are redshirting so they have 2 seasons to play. this season we already got 3 receivers: Stutz, Noa, Powell.

    we got 4 corners that will be JR/SR next season: JP Davis, Chris Black, Jeramy Bryant, Kevin Williams. we could use another JC corner, but its very important that we get a JC safety that can come in and play right away.

    of course at least 2 JC OL is a must.

    and we do need a JC DT, bc only vaughn, rocky and tuika have playing experience.

    at this time, unless another scholie opens up, we just have to stick with our current RBs: LWJ, Heun, Rego. Pilares if needed.

  11. al November 14, 2008 1:33 am


    don’t forget that we are not deep talent wise at the receiver positions. henry can play, taylor needs to get healthy, blount has to work on catching the ball. we need four wr’s every year since we have four positions there.

    we could still use another quality corner. we need two safeties who can step up and who can run (one of our weaknesses). the staff are targeting those spots as we speak.

    we seem to be echoing each others sentiments here. we actually will be okay at oline next year. again we need to bring in 4-5 each year because we have 5 oline positions.

    i totally agree that we need a jc dt as well. hopefully mageo and wade will commit. that would be a coup de gras.

    and we really need a running back with jets. some one who can step right in. i think right now that should be a priority for our offense as this will be an area that needs the most help. we need a troy evans or brad randle kind of back. one who can turn on the jets and be gone in a blink of an eye. that would make us very deadly.

    and we always have room for jello. i mean a quality qb.

    …nuff said

  12. al November 14, 2008 1:49 am

    and we would always welcome a manti te’o.

  13. Hawaiianbod November 14, 2008 1:54 am

    top 20

  14. djmitcho November 14, 2008 2:01 am

    Top 15. It’s nice to see all the early commits, but like I’ve said before…LOI is the day I get excited. Can’t wait to see some O-Line recruits cause that’s where it’s at. O-Line! Woo Hoo!!!
    Ok, good night now, cause it’s 3:40 am and I gotta be at work no later than 8:30 am

  15. Hawaiianbod November 14, 2008 2:02 am

    WOO HOO!!! another Keliikipi.

    Welcome to the Warrior Nation Wade!

  16. wafan November 14, 2008 4:11 am

    A super Aloha Friday to all!

  17. wafan November 14, 2008 4:12 am

    Great day already!!! Come in to see what is going on with the late night crew and find a new blog. AND make the top 20, to boot. Whoo-hoo!

  18. wafan November 14, 2008 4:14 am

    Garret . . .

    Surgery by videophone? Why waste the time?!?!

    Just find someone who stayed at the Holiday Inn.

  19. wafan November 14, 2008 4:19 am

    Good news on the recruits and commitments, too!

    Now all we need are signatures on UH LOI’s. Yeah, this is going to be good.

  20. Jay November 14, 2008 4:40 am

    Morning Tsaikos,

    Another good news on recruiting!

    Anybody know if schools can offer more scholarships than they have? Everybody knows the scenario where a verbal is given but they change their mind at LOI day. Do schools take that into account? What happens if there are too many players than scholarships?

    Just wonderin’

  21. wafan November 14, 2008 4:43 am

    Hey Jay!

  22. wafan November 14, 2008 4:43 am

    Time do an Esme.

    See you later this afternoon!

  23. mctruck November 14, 2008 4:47 am

    Alright!!!, more candy for my eyes!! Welcome all you Hawaii boyz!!
    Welcome ALL you recruits, make some memories, and make Hawaii your home away from home….we are your family from now on!!

  24. Ronnie November 14, 2008 5:33 am

    Happy Aloha Friday Tsaiko Family!!!

    I’m really looking forward to the day after LOI day. As we learned in the past, it’s not official until the signed LOI is received by the university.

    Liz We are coming to the Cincy game! There are 7 of us coming in from CA and my mom and nephew are going too! It’s going to be a blast!

  25. mano1 November 14, 2008 5:42 am

    Wow…another great commit…..way to go UH Coaches recruiting “Waianae DT Keli‘ikipi…..a welcomed home grown Warrior.

  26. InLV November 14, 2008 5:59 am

    It was mentioned at the Boyd Gaming Mahalo Party that the UH-UNLV football series will run through 2018. There are 2 years though within the next 10 that the game will not be played. In addition,a basketball series with UNLV is in the works as well.

    Packages for next years UNLV game on 9/19/09 are going to come out real soon

  27. Garret November 14, 2008 6:14 am

    Welcome to the Warriors Wade Keli‘ikipi!

  28. Garret November 14, 2008 6:16 am

    Great job by the coaches. I was hoping that Wade would commit to the Warriors.

  29. Garret November 14, 2008 6:23 am

    Front page of the main newspaper in San Diego had a story about San Diego State and its stadium problems. I wish that UH had SDSU’s type of lease–UH gets none of the concessions and parking while SDSU gets to keep 92% of both! SDSU is lucky that the Chargers pay most of the costs for the stadium so the city doesn’t try to have SDSU contribute to the upkeep… but the Chargers are being kicked out of the stadium.

    The major budget problems (and pension shortfall) by the city of San Diego might make SDSU’s athletic department problems show up earlier than I had expected.

    Negotiations between the city and SDSU for a new long-term lease to play at city-owned Qualcomm Stadium have been described as “very difficult” and “very, very frustrating” by a stadium official.

    The negotiations have dragged for almost a year since SDSU’s last long-term lease expired at the end of the 2007 season. To be able to play the last two games of the current season at the stadium, the Aztecs recently had to agree to a special two-game permit in lieu of a long-term lease.

    “I’d hate to get to the position where we might say, ‘Sorry, but the stadium’s not available next year.’ But it could be,” said Jeff Jeffery, who has been involved on behalf of the city as a member of the Qualcomm Stadium Advisory Board.

    “Our goal is that the city should not be subsidizing San Diego State football,” said Jeffery, who also happens to be a $25,000-per-year booster of SDSU athletics. “It’s not our (the city’s) fault that the team is having serious problems.”

    The city previously estimated that SDSU games cost city taxpayers more than $310,000 combined in 2006 and 2007, mostly because of dwindling attendance.

    For the city, the crux of the issue is SDSU’s poor attendance. In 2004, SDSU’s average actual attendance was 28,336. Last year, it was 17,868, and this year it’s even worse

    Severe financial pressures for both the city and SDSU haven’t made the situation easier. The city is considering closing 17 libraries and recreational facilities to help close a $43 million budget gap. SDSU is proposing a $160 annual student fee increase to relieve the athletics budget, which has been stressed for years because of low football revenue.

  30. jm2375 November 14, 2008 6:30 am

    Good morning Tsai-kos! Happy Aloha Friday! Be careful of da vog.

    Welcome to the Warrior ohana, Wade Keliikipi!

  31. Annoddah Dave November 14, 2008 6:33 am

    ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs,

    Garret – Thank you for your post #39 of yesterday. I did not realize that non-BCS schools got a financial win fall when one of their kind plays in a bowl regardless of conference. Now I understand about rooting for BCS busters such as Utah.

  32. Bulla November 14, 2008 6:33 am

    aloha Tsaikos everywhere,

    congrats to Keliikipi family 🙂 good luck!


  33. Garret November 14, 2008 6:40 am

    Annoddah Dave,

    You are welcome. I was glad to help answer a question from a Warriors fan!

  34. Hank November 14, 2008 6:50 am

    Congratulations WADE!

    …my feeling is, you can never have enough linemen, they are the heart of the team….

  35. d1島 November 14, 2008 6:52 am

    Greast Morning All!

    Good news about Wade Keliikipi.

    Have a great day erryboddy….already HiHo over one hour already…

  36. Stretch November 14, 2008 6:57 am

    Good Morning and Aloha Friday to all Tsaikos!!

    This might be the first time that I will really get excited on the LOI day. Previously, it was a wait and see who they sign. Now we know names and hope that they all keep their word.

    Looking forward to the opening bball game tonight.

  37. d1島 November 14, 2008 7:00 am

    …and he’s an Eagle Scout.
    Manti Teo earns more accolades.

    Sheesh! Is there nothing this guy doesn’t do?

  38. d1島 November 14, 2008 7:01 am

    Is there anything this guy doesn’t do?

  39. Cheyah! November 14, 2008 7:17 am

    Great Warrior News especially for a bye week! Keep em comin’ ST!

    Don’t know if anyone posted this, but I went to the Pearl Harbor Navy Exchange yesterday and saw Colt Brennan Redskins Jersey for sale, just in case you’re looking for one.

    Great Job Mack & Company! Go Warriors!

  40. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER November 14, 2008 7:24 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka!
    Welcome to the Warriors Wade Keli‘ikipi!

    Yea- Ronnie and family are coming for Cinci!
    SteveM- I’m feeling the need for post-game karaoke!

    Hi Ho and have a GREAT DAY, Everybody!

  41. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 7:53 am

    Wade Keli‘ikipi !!E’ KOMO MAI! Awesome Warrior to be!

    Too bad Manti Te’o doesn’t list Hawaii as one of his top 5 picks. Oh, sure he could help other Hawai’i athletes find spots in mainland schools (which so many already do) BUT he could do more for the University of Hawaii football program by staying home. It is a shame when the home University cannot keep what is considered the best in the state at home.

    Auwe… not a good reflection on UH, Hawaii, and the Warriors. The irony is, as proud as we are of one of our own, his choosing to leave the islands for a mainland program brings shame to the islands.

    I wish him well with his decision. I still hope he reconsiders playing for the local fans. Should he go, I know we will have lost a good player, but I’m confident McMackin and staff will be able to coach and develop an equally good one.

  42. jm2375 (21) November 14, 2008 7:56 am

    wow. good ting no mo practice today. it’s pouring in Manoa

  43. koakane™ November 14, 2008 8:13 am

    hello tsaikos good morning to everyone

    adding my welcome to wkeli’ikipi. good job by coaching staff getting quality 808 players. agree need to get moa skilled oline men to booster next years returnees.

    mih I agree with you 😀

    mte’o….I wish him well with his decision. I still hope he reconsiders playing for the local fans. Should he go, I know we will have lost a good player, but I’m confident McMackin and staff will be able to coach and develop an equally good one.

  44. Kekoa November 14, 2008 8:15 am

    jm2375 ~ Wade in Manoa already?

  45. djmitcho November 14, 2008 8:17 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos! Wow, I sure could use a couple more hours of sleep, but gotta pay da bills. Hope everyone has a great Friday!

  46. koakane™ November 14, 2008 8:17 am

    d1島: he neva go to the kalihi tri schools of FHS, DMHS or KHS bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    …and he’s an Eagle Scout.
    Manti Teo earns more accolades.

    Sheesh! Is there nothing this guy doesn’t do?

  47. koakane™ November 14, 2008 8:24 am

    shout out to the ceded land protector maoli nui kekoa and GNW monarch cuz djmitcho.

    jm# what you doing stalking the campus 😉

  48. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2008 8:27 am

    Howzit Gangeez! Howz you dis mornin’ Mr. Koakane? 🙂

    That’s great news about Keli’ikipi! What evah da coaches and da recuiter is doin, keep on doin’ ’em. You guys are doin a bang up job.

    Whew! Finished a deadline yesterday with my okole intact. Now on to the next one. It’s nice to be able to jump on here and catch up.

    Bestest of luck to the two Wildcats and a big shout out to baby Barry, lil Abe himself, representing at that SoCal school.

  49. koakane™ November 14, 2008 8:34 am

    dpk got your app from PKCC?

  50. SteveM November 14, 2008 8:38 am

    Great news about Wade Keli‘ikipi and congrats for choosing UH– that name stirs great pride and visions of exciting plays in Hawaii!

  51. Kekoa November 14, 2008 8:38 am

    Good Aloha Friday to all our Tsaiko Ohana!

    I hope you all will enjoy & reflect on the montage of people and events that make up our beautiful homeland.

    Go Warriors!

  52. Jason November 14, 2008 8:41 am

    Great memories of West Keli‘ikipi running over USC defenders. Can’t wait to see Wade blow up offensive linemen. 🙂

    I gotta say, it’s weird to have all this great recruiting done so early, but it’s very comfortable at the same time. Like the perfect pair of brand-new shoes or something. 😛

  53. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 14, 2008 8:44 am

    morning tsaikos,

    what great news. looks like we are going to have some nice recruits on defense!

    now, does anyone know why we havent been hearing too much on the offensive side of the ball? recievers? rbs? etc etc? how come we havent been hearing much on that?

    go warriors!

  54. Stretch November 14, 2008 8:47 am

    since Jason brought it up, Great Memories….

  55. takoboy November 14, 2008 8:49 am

    morning all

    great great recruiting news, wonder when we hear about dat poly safety

    had to laugh, some donkey on 1500 right now. hope it wasn’t any of you… 🙂

    to get two ilh teams to the state tournament. send the 2nd best team, say Punahou, to the division II tournament, are you kidding me…

  56. Stretch November 14, 2008 8:52 am

    tako – are they assuming that St Louis is going to win tonight so Punahou would need to go to the DII tournament?? must be that same babooze that calls 1420??

  57. d1島 November 14, 2008 8:54 am


    I tink dat “donkey” is one former Warrior O-lineman 😳

  58. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 8:55 am

    # jm2375 (21):

    November 14th, 2008 at 7:56 am

    wow. good ting no mo practice today. it’s pouring in Manoa

    Yeah… well, Mac cancelled practice so that they could water the practice field. Our coaches thinks of everything. WTG Coaches!

  59. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2008 8:56 am

    Got ’em! Tanks cuz. 😉

  60. takoboy November 14, 2008 8:59 am

    uh oh, my sincerest apologies to him, i’m da donkey now. 😳

    just what he was saying didn’t make much sense to me. i mean could you imagine st. louis/punahou playing a smaller outer island school. now that i think about it, might not be so bad, i mean iolani did beat st. louis. oh well got myself in enough hot water, shall shut my mouth now. not assuming st louis wins tonite, have no rooting interest whatsoever. hope its a great game w/ no injuries.

  61. (Jesse) James November 14, 2008 9:05 am

    good morning Tsaikos….

    Great news about Keliikipi…now on to the recruits on offense….

    Have to do another Esme and woosh!!!!

  62. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 9:08 am

    I want our UH commit Stuntzman on the winning team.. That means St. Louis. GO Crusaders!

  63. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 9:09 am

    BTW… any more updates on Ching/Cooke field?

  64. takoboy November 14, 2008 9:10 am

    but what about Kimo Makaula…especially if he has to play qb…

  65. takoboy November 14, 2008 9:11 am

    that’s why hard to root against anyone, i’m thinking

  66. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 9:14 am


    okay okay.. so let’s go triple overtime.. bad call by the refs…St Louis by a field goal?

    Besides.. Makaula is coming in as an “athlete”, eh? Gonna be groomed into something special, I bet.

  67. SteveM November 14, 2008 9:17 am

    Saturday, November 15, 2008
    9:00 PM (after Wahine Volleyball)
    Club Genji — click here for map

    Karaoke Call and Mrs. Bulla’s birthday celebration after the Wahine volley match this Saturday. Some arriving at 8:15 for dinner first.

    Come anytime, leave anytime. Featuring lots of 60’s, 70’s and 80’s favorites to rock the house! Some Japanese tunes too as we share the main lounge (unless we double our numbers), but we’ll have room to dance–and room for “walking boots”–in the aisles 🙂

    RSVP’s not necessary, but let me know if you can (for general setup reasons and if you want nabeyaki udon).

  68. takoboy November 14, 2008 9:19 am

    yup, i hope both guyz star. Makaula does look like he might be coming in on da d side of the ball, think he’ll be a star one day for a black and green.

  69. Kekoa November 14, 2008 9:20 am

    mih ~ I too am not eager to join the ‘Bon Voyage Teo’ crowd. The one statement he made about encouraging mainland coaches to recruit more of our talented athletes does not set well with me.

    I agree when you point out the fact that he could do more for OUR University in OUR home state by promoting OUR program. Wherever he may go, it will be THEIR university, in THEIR state, and promote more of our elite players for THEIR program.

    His family taught him all the skills he needs to get by in this world, but forgot to include a sense of loyalty to ones birth place.

  70. takoboy November 14, 2008 9:30 am

    maybe that’s da michelle wie in him

  71. LizKauai [Believer] November 14, 2008 9:31 am

    Perspective- (on the homepage)
    HA has a sports poll:What has been your top Hawaii sports story for 2008?

    Sugar Bowl
    Jones leaves, Frazier gone, McMackin in
    Punahou athletics ranked best in nation
    McLachlin fourth from HI to win PGA Tour event
    Clay wins Olympic decathlon gold
    Kai helps USA win Olympic soccer gold
    Hawaii players help USA win Olympic volleyball silver
    Stanley helps USA win Olympic volleyball gold
    Waipio Little League
    UH first road win vs. ranked team (Fresno St.)
    Victorino helps Phillies win World Series

    As much as I love all of the above, I found myself voting not for football.
    How about you?

  72. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 9:35 am


    I mentioned that they should have included … ex-Punahou basketball player becomes the world’s most powerful individual as the 1st Island born President of the United States. That would have been my pick.

  73. LizKauai [Believer] November 14, 2008 9:36 am

    Colt Watch:
    Couple of pix of the Redskins at practice- yup #5 is still around. 😆 I wonder if he’s going to see Princess Leila sometime soon???

  74. LizKauai [Believer] November 14, 2008 9:37 am

    MIH- High 5!

  75. kaimiloa November 14, 2008 9:44 am

    To those who get down on UH because they can’t keep Te’o home…. He’s one of the top 10 recruits in the whole country. There are 5 star recruits in Florida that go to Notre Dame instead of UF or from Ohio and go to Michigan. That’s just the way it is. We’re getting some pretty good local recruits but we’re not going to get them all. Like others, I’ve noticed that once UH looks like its the team a recruit will pick, the scouting agencies tend to drop them down a star. Hmmmm

  76. tommui November 14, 2008 9:46 am

    LIZ: as the sports poll only had those choices – I picked the Sugar Bowl.

    No question that the Obama choice should have been up there.

    At the Bay View function, I wore my Obama shirt which read “Hawaii’s gift to the Mainland”! (Unfortunately, the shirt was red which is the color of NMSU!)

  77. tommui November 14, 2008 9:48 am

    KEKOA: You are absolutely correct! (Re: #69)♠

  78. tommui November 14, 2008 9:48 am

    KEKOA: You are absolutely correct! (Re: #69)

  79. al November 14, 2008 9:50 am

    if a school finds out that they have signed more than they have room for, the grayshirt rules are implemented.

    i grayshirt may be counted for the year just completed or the following year. you know, they fall in the “gray” area. typically, instead of coming the fall they are enrolled fulltime in the spring(beginning january). this allows them to compete in spring ball and there first season would be the following fall.

    usually, true freshmen who are younger or could use the time to develop physically or academically will be grayshirted as opposed to redshirted.

  80. takoboy November 14, 2008 9:55 am


    in regards to grayshirts, could one enroll in january and still redshirt the following season, almost like giving them 5.5 yrs in the system.

  81. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 9:56 am


    The grayshirt, redshirt, and third-team years are critical for the student athlete to get ahead with their studies so that they can focus on football during their most productive years without having to worry too much about their grades and academic requirements. I’d like to see a 90%+ graduation rate for scholies before McMackin retires. 90%+ accross the board for all scholies before Donovan retires, as well. 90% for ALL athletes would be too much to ask for as that would be much higher than the overall UH record, I think.

  82. al November 14, 2008 9:57 am

    i wonder why………

    we have recruited three receivers already….
    billy stutzmann
    deondre powell
    kalua noa (who is a grayshirt in jan 09)

    all three have run a sub 4.5/40.

    we could use another wr that’s for sure.

    to me, our priority is at this time is a running back and a couple jc of safeties, a jc cornerback, and a jc dtackle all of whom could step in and challenge for starting positions.

  83. expat November 14, 2008 9:58 am

    Makaula is an “athlete” no question. disclaimer — I think I am one of the few Punahou grads who regularly posts here so I am, admittedly, biased. Hopefully it will be a great game tonight. I would love to see Punahou win, but I do respect the winning tradition St Louis has built. St Louis didn’t lose a game for most of the time I was in high school.

    I didn’t play football, but both my brothers did. If I remember correctly Punahou broke St Louis’ regular season winning streak at, what, 55 or something, right? My brother played on that team and sacked John Hao near the end zone to have a hand in preserving that win. It was a long time ago. I was in college on the east coast and my brothers called at like 2 am to tell me. Of course St Louis still won the Prep bowl that year. My brothers also called that first night that UH destroyed BYU– also at 2 or 3 am.

  84. Stretch November 14, 2008 10:03 am

    expat – no wonder you moved to the west coat, now they call you around midnight.

  85. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 14, 2008 10:07 am


    thanks for the info. i dont know why i forgot about BRS. and i agree we need some great O-line recruits. im praying we do!

    go warriors.

  86. LizKauai [Believer] November 14, 2008 10:12 am

    tommui- as much as I personally loved the SB and how we were involved with the coach/ad transition… and the little leaguers… to me, Bryan Clay’s Olympic Decathlon Gold is a true feat of athleticism and something to be proud of for a very long time.

  87. Stretch November 14, 2008 10:12 am

    the best thing about Billy Ray is that he will be coming into school January. He has already been practicing with the guys during the unsupervised workouts and coming in early will only help him get ahead.

  88. al November 14, 2008 10:13 am

    well, mack wants 100 % graduation ratio. in his search for recruits he definitely has emphasized that he wants a student-athlete. the last thing the coach wants is someone who will be on academic criticalness during his time. mack has repeatedly made academics his priority, i believe he is dead serious in this regard.

    tako…it is my understanding that a grayshirt may still redshirt.

  89. lab rat November 14, 2008 10:13 am

    Wade da Warrior. Now this is one that I really hoped we’d get.

    Welcome Wade.

  90. djmitcho November 14, 2008 10:19 am

    I would like UH to have the kind of O-Line that Texas Tech has. Now that is an O-Line. I wish UH’s OL could average at least 6’4″ and 310 lbs.

  91. al November 14, 2008 10:27 am

    djmitcho….they are out there. soon we will get them.
    hey wait, don’t we have these guys coming in………?

    loeffler 6’5″/265 (and only 16 yrs old)
    lacount 6’7″/295
    winchester-makainai 6’4″/315

  92. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 10:29 am


    I think most of the guys that are redshirted or recently recruited for the O-line are 6-4 to 6-5. Only Fehoko, who is a walk-on, is shorter at 6’1″.
    We got..

    Chauncey Makainai OG 6′4” Kailua
    Jordon Loeffler OT 6′5” Hilo
    Whitley Fehoko OG 6′1” Farrington 2006 grad to walk on
    David Garness, OT 6-5 290, 5.2/40, Alaska … walk on
    Jesse Williams OT 6-5 315 Australia scholie
    Kainoa LaCount, OT, 6’7″, 285, 5.2/40 (College of the Canyons / Kailua HS, Kailua, HI)
    John Manu-Olevao, OT, 6’3″, 312, 5.2/40 (Fresno City College / Kahuku HS – Kahuku, HI)
    Bronson Tiwanak, C, 6’2″, 305 (Fresno City College / Damien HS – Honolulu, HI)Walk-on

    Did I miss anyone?

  93. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 10:30 am

    Jesse, I think, may end up on defense, though.

  94. da princess' classmate November 14, 2008 10:33 am

    lopati and keli’ikipi in back to back days. WOW. this coup excites me on an equal scale to super bowl sunday last year when coach pulled off Paipai and Alema. with the prospect of more announcements in the near future, we may well be done before decmeber rolls around. people may try to attack coach mack in other areas, but man they have no say when it comes to recruiting. Kudos to all involved, the Lee brothers, tony tuioti, coach miano, and the rest of the staff.

  95. al November 14, 2008 10:36 am

    would you say that mack’s greatest recruit effort of the year was none other than tony “the tiger” tuioti?

  96. al November 14, 2008 10:37 am

    mih….methinks that we have to wait one more year for manu-olevao.

  97. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 10:41 am


    probably right about manu-olevao. But we also have a dozen or so returning players, so the O-line is pretty solid through the next season. It’s more a matter of them learning and mastering the proper techniques as Ron Lee pointed out in the last NaKoa luncheon.

  98. J-Dog November 14, 2008 10:42 am

    I hope with Whitley Fehoko coming to UH that we have a good shot at his brother VJ for 2010.

  99. da princess' classmate November 14, 2008 10:49 am

    Tuioti has already paid huge dividends in the short-term, hopefully he’s able to keep it up. have no doubts that he will. i know that graham seems like a solid ucla commit but imagine if somehow he’s able to get him over here along w/ alofipo and wadsworth.

    besides VJ and Manley and Taz Stevenson, who’s the other local studs for 2010…

  100. duffer November 14, 2008 10:52 am

    Did I miss anyone?

    Kahai Choy

    lest Mom Nalani gets mad! 🙂

  101. (Jesse) James November 14, 2008 10:53 am

    Okay…taking a break.

    dj/al/mih – I like the size we’ll be getting on O-Line but they need to step it up next year and get into better conditioning.

    Like dj said, look at the Tex Tech O-Line. Those guys are big but they are also in shape. They never appear tired during a game (at least in the three that I’ve watched this year). I overheard Craig James (I know, I know…I don’t like that guy either) talking about it on college gameday just before the Texas game. His son plays for Tech and he was saying how the O-line guys took it upon themselves to get together like 4 days a week or something over the summer and run…run…run. They would run like 2 miles a day and do a lot of coditioning drills. That showed they really wanted it and it has paid off big time….

    Our boys need to do that in the coming off-season. IMHO, our O-line has appeared to be tired several times this year….but I’m a D guy so what do I know….LOL

  102. duffer November 14, 2008 10:54 am

    Off topic….baseball,

  103. A-House November 14, 2008 10:56 am


    Muchos kudos to Coach Tony Tuioti and all coaches in their recruiting quest of 2009. Keep the good news coming. This will only “add” excitement to the glory of the 2007 season and continued interest in Warrior football.

  104. Stretch November 14, 2008 10:59 am

    November 14th, 2008 at 10:52 am
    Did I miss anyone?

    Kahai Choy
    lest Mom Nalani gets mad!

    No forget Tui Tuiasosopo, we definately no like get Lua and Ana mad

  105. Kekoa November 14, 2008 11:08 am

    Duffer ~ I ran into Nalani (actually she almost ran over me!) at WB yesterday. She said she had just flown in from Hilo, and dashed to UH straight from the airport.

    Poor fb mom just got to the field as the players were having their post game prayer meeting….(tsai!)

    Garret ~ We need for you to invent one transporter like in Star Trek so we can travel more efficiently and quick like a swift!

  106. expat November 14, 2008 11:12 am


    I was in Boston for four years but I did my best to remain faithful to Hawaii. In solidarity I tried my best to not wake up before 10:30 am and to not go to sleep earlier than about 2am, unless forced to due to consumption of certain sleep-inducing beverages.

    The fraternity I joined was heavily Hawaii infiltrated. My freshman year there were 5 guys from Hawaii out of 36 total. We had at least four guys from Hawaii every year that I was there.

    Now days I just get text updates and emails from home, not the late calls. Hard to imagine that back then there was no world wide web for any practical purpose (I first heard about and downloaded Mosaic the year after I graduated when I was at UH for graduate school). Also, no one I knew had a cell phone. Amazing how things have changed. Also amazing how freakin’ old I just made myself feel.

  107. d1島 November 14, 2008 11:35 am


    LMAO! 😆

  108. Stretch November 14, 2008 11:43 am

    ST – you think it’s better to be a newpaper reporter or an athlete??

  109. Kazz November 14, 2008 11:46 am


  110. chawan_cut November 14, 2008 11:46 am

    So besides, myself, Stretch, Jason and Kazz, who else will be at the game tonight?

  111. al November 14, 2008 11:49 am

    i’ll be there……in spirit.

    calvin said he would go.
    i hope the doc takes care of her family’s health and stays home instead.

  112. Stretch November 14, 2008 11:51 am

    CC – I’ll be with koakane, g-nalo & sleez. The twins will be there and I think I read that Calvin will too.

  113. Just Saying November 14, 2008 12:00 pm

    What about the guy Kazz has a man crush on, Quentin Beaver? Also what happened to Andrew Faaumu? Would like to see some of the cut walk-ons come back again next spring. Wasn’t Libre cut as a sb/cb? Look at him now. Just saying.

  114. chawan_cut November 14, 2008 12:04 pm

    I’ll be behind the basket with my friends. I think Jason and Kazz might be back there too. give a call or txt.

  115. Kekoa November 14, 2008 12:05 pm

    expat ~ One word ‘Transporter.’ We have the technology.

  116. Kekoa November 14, 2008 12:07 pm

    Kama Krab!…C’mon, call me if you want doze ducats! You don’t even have to be caller # 5 Braddah…just call.

  117. Stretch November 14, 2008 12:08 pm

    I would expect Mack to have open tryouts again for anyone who wants to walk on. I think it was held in the spring this past year. That’s where Nate Nasca showed he was worthy of being on the team.

  118. Garret November 14, 2008 12:09 pm

    Article on Cincy’s coach and team.

    After setting a school record last season with 10 victories – which earned him Big East coach of the year honors in his first season – Kelly has Cincinnati in contention for the conference championship.

    While Kelly, 46, has the No. 22 Bearcats (7-2, 5-1) positioned to win the Big East title and its accompanying BCS bowl berth, he will wait until after their final four games to celebrate any crowning achievements. Cincinnati visits rival Louisville (5-4, 1-3) at 8 p.m. today, then plays host to No. 21 Pitt (7-2, 5-1) in the River City Rivalry Nov. 22 and Syracuse (2-7, 1-4) Nov. 29 before traveling to Hawaii Dec. 6 for its season finale.

    This year, Cincinnati bounced back from a quarterback quandary after losing starter Dustin Grutza to a broken leg in the second game, a 52-26 loss at No. 5 Oklahoma, and backup Tony Pike to a broken left (non-throwing) arm against Akron. Where a similar situation proved devastating to Pitt last season, Cincinnati relied on a senior-laden defense for victories over Marshall and Rutgers before losing to Connecticut Oct. 25. Pike returned to lead the Bearcats past South Florida and West Virginia in overtime.

  119. Garret November 14, 2008 12:11 pm


    If those flying cars ever work, inter-island travel will be almost as fast as a teleport machine…and no rental car will be needed!

  120. myki November 14, 2008 12:12 pm

    Hi Gang,

    Sj and I will be at the BB game tonight too. Hope to see some of you there. We sit in the area above the tunnel where our team enters the court.

    Wishing all of you a terrific weekend. Lots of UH games this weekend!!

  121. d1島 November 14, 2008 12:16 pm

    Who’s going to the ILH Championship game tonight?
    Friday Night Lights…..
    a little wind…
    a little rain…
    $4.25 soda….
    $3.50 popcorn…

  122. Kekoa November 14, 2008 12:21 pm


    November 14th, 2008 at 11:51 am
    CC – I’ll be with koakane, g-nalo & sleez. The twins will be there and I think I read that Calvin will too.

    Hmmm…I think security might have several persons of interest to shadow during the ball game.

  123. Garret November 14, 2008 12:22 pm

    Deseret News is calling for Utah State’s Brent Guy to be fired. Apparently he’s going to be fired even if Utah State wins the rest of their games.

    As Utah State attempts to secure its future, it can’t move forward without distancing itself from its past — which includes the last four seasons under Guy. It can’t sell a program that includes the least-successful football coach in school history.

    Heaven knows, winning at Utah State is tough. If the Aggies play one “money” game each year (last season was Oklahoma, the year before, Arkansas) that’s an automatic loss. So are games against Utah and BYU, if they’re both on the schedule. Then there are near-certain losses to Boise State, Fresno State and — on most years — Hawaii and Nevada.

    That’s six or seven defeats before they’ve even kicked off.

    This predicament has contributed to Guy’s 8-37 mark (.177), which is worse than predecessors Mick Dennehy (19-37, .339), Dave Arslaninan (7-15, .318), Chris Pella (9-24, .273) and any other Aggie coach.

    Things have been particularly gruesome under Guy, whose teams have never finished higher than sixth in their conference. Expecting USU to beat Boise State is unrealistic. But why can’t it beat Idaho, New Mexico State, Louisiana Tech and San Jose State every year?

    Even if the Aggies win out this year, giving them a respectable 4-4 conference mark, it won’t be enough to convince many boosters to contribute. With a 4-8 overall record, USU still wouldn’t be bowl-eligible.

    Guy has a year remaining on his contract, worth approximately $250,000. Although the athletic department may not be able to afford a buyout, it really can’t afford to keep him. It would likely cost more in lost donations than it would in salary.

  124. Stretch November 14, 2008 12:23 pm

    kekoa – yeah, your right, I’ll warn security that the evil twins will be in attendance.

  125. Stretch November 14, 2008 12:23 pm

    kekoa – yeah, your right, I’ll warn security that the evil twins will be in attendance.

  126. Kazz November 14, 2008 12:23 pm



  127. Kazz November 14, 2008 12:23 pm



  128. Garret November 14, 2008 12:25 pm

    Note that Utah State has been below the minimum attendance required for staying in D-IA. If the NCAA decides to enforce the rule, Utah State will be kicked out of D-IA. Even if they get a big turnout for their home finale vs. NMSU (I’d bet against that!), they still would be below the required average attendance numbers for the past 2-year and 3-year periods.

    Starting the 2006 season, USU was among a dozen schools that didn’t meet the NCAA’s minimum average attendance of 15,000 over a rolling two-year period. It followed up by averaging 11,360 in 2006 and 13,131 in 2007.

    So maybe the NCAA isn’t as hard-nosed as it sounds — no team to date has been downgraded due to attendance woes, so there’s apparently some leeway.

    The Aggies better hope so. This year’s average is 15,700, with only a game against New Mexico State remaining. The Aggies’ biggest draws were against Utah (19,061) and BYU (23,101). But in other home games they only average 12,112.

  129. Garret November 14, 2008 12:27 pm

    Utah State is building good facilities, but donors want a new head coach before going to their checkbook again…

    At least in one sense, USU football is enjoying a resurgence. The new Laub Athletics Complex is a showcase. Sources say certain donors are willing to contribute more — but only if coaching changes are made.

  130. Garret November 14, 2008 12:28 pm

    Tebow says that he might vote for himself for the Heisman.

    “There’s a chance,” Tebow said, when asked if he might vote for “No.15.” “There’s a chance. The last few weeks have been good and we’ll just see how we finish the season.”

    Tebow agreed with reporters when asked if he should be considered a surging candidate for the Heisman.

    “I guess you could say that,” Tebow said. “I feel that I’m getting more in the mix of it now — just being honest. I’ve had a few good weeks in a row, so I just need to keep putting a few more together.”

  131. Esme November 14, 2008 12:29 pm

    Kazz was so excited, he had to say it twice. 😆

  132. Esme November 14, 2008 12:31 pm

    Stretch too. :mrgreen:

  133. Esme November 14, 2008 12:34 pm

    I’ve heard rumblings of all kinds of Tsaiko happenings. Hope you all have fun this weekend! My houseguests are coming in today, so I can’t come out to play … but whoop it up for me, gang.

  134. Stretch November 14, 2008 12:34 pm

    Re: USU Attendance numbers

    Doesn’t attendance numbers = tickets distributed?? They should do more ticket “donations” to charity or worthy causes and at least they can write them off??

  135. Kekoa November 14, 2008 12:35 pm

    Garret ~ I saw the flying car that the guy from Davis, California built. Yes, it is quite an option. A little pricey, but I might ask an ‘engineer’ Tsaiko I know to help me fund it.

    The cul-de-sac in front of my house is perfect for turning around and taking off or landing down our very level, straight as an arrow street.

    How’s your project coming along?

  136. chawan_cut November 14, 2008 12:53 pm

    its like the double-mint twins!
    why don’t they have those commercials anymore?

  137. Garret November 14, 2008 12:54 pm


    Utah State’s numbers are probably *after* a good number of ticket donations and giveaways…the actual turnstile count I believe is much lower! Maybe nobody wants anymore ticket donations?

  138. Garret November 14, 2008 12:56 pm


    DARPA is funding work to try to get flying cars for military use. If the project succeeds, those flying cars will come way down in price…and will be reasonable to purchase in DoD terms.

  139. BG November 14, 2008 12:56 pm

    Another great day in Paradise for Tsaikos to play!!! Aloha to all.

    The recruiting by the UH staff has brought tears of joy for me. I can clearly remember that a little over 10 years ago, we were harvesting 2nd team and honorable mention city and state players. If a blue-chip player signed with UH, it probably meant that he couldn’t meet academnic standards. Now, we’re getting players wanted by PAC 10 and other BCS schools. There’s much to be thankful for.

  140. Kazz November 14, 2008 12:57 pm

    November 14th, 2008 at 10:19 am
    I would like UH to have the kind of O-Line that Texas Tech has. Now that is an O-Line. I wish UH’s OL could average at least 6′4″ and 310 lbs.

    Not to “one-up” you but I wish that UH has the kind of finances Texas Tech has as well as the administrative infrastructure BSC schools have. That should solve a lot of recruiting “wishes’. Plus for some recruits I guess having a microbrewery on/near campus helps… 🙄

    But alas, we have what we have.

    With all due respect to Jim Donovan and everyone in our athletic department, they must also work with what they have due to the shortcomings of past administrations and it’s almost like starting from scratch in some areas I think. But we’ve seen them turn some situations around for the better and things are looking up.

    Better late than never I guess and when it comes to funds and the UHAD, we should be thankful that things are happening and improving as they are.

    Thinking of it… President Elect Obama should consult with Jim Donovan on how to deal with coming into a new job that presents so many challenges… of course I don’t dare compare our country’s problems with that of the UHAD, but you all know what I mean.

  141. Garret November 14, 2008 12:59 pm


    My project is going well, thank you for asking. I am presenting my work at the MILCOM conference next week and have a lot of networking/partnership meetings scheduled. So, next week will either be very, very good or really bad.

    It appears that two other proposals that we are big parts of have been approved for funding. So, we should be able to increase the number of people we have at my company if the contracts are finished soon. Until everyone signs you can never feel safe!

  142. Curt November 14, 2008 1:02 pm

    Wow. Da recruits just keep coming in. I’m really impressed. Great job coaches!

  143. Garret November 14, 2008 1:02 pm


    Don’t forget that Texas Tech plays in the Big 12, which is MUCH easier to recruit top players to than the WAC. Elite recruits want to play in BCS conferences in football, as can be seen in the lists on scout and rivals.

    The other factor is that a focus on local recruiting is great, but the people in Texas are much taller than the people in Hawaii…that makes the average OL recruit taller. If you check out the heights of the high school basketball players in Texas and Hawaii, you’ll see a big difference! I sure notice a difference every time I visit those 2 states.

  144. Garret November 14, 2008 1:06 pm

    The fact that the coaches can recruit so well despite UH being in the WAC is impressive. If UH was in the Pac-10, the recruiting would be truly amazing and players like Te’o would probably have a lot more incentive to stay home.

    UH needs the bottom of the WAC to improve and to hold on to the top of the WAC (I’m looking at you BSU). Improving the conference would be a great help to the Warriors!

  145. chawan_cut November 14, 2008 1:09 pm

    regarding USU’s ticket count,
    Bobby Curran this morning said that one USU home game was against BYU and it was sold out, with the majority of the tickets going to the Cougar fans. that certainly helps.
    i don’t think NMSU has a good average for their stadium either. didn’t look like they had much at our game. they did get to host their rival New Mexico, and also hosted Boise, but I bet the visiting fans outnumbered the homeys (not including THE homey here).

  146. Jay November 14, 2008 1:27 pm

    Thanks al for the info. I’m still a noob, but have been learning alot from the Tsaikos.

  147. LizKauai [Believer] November 14, 2008 1:36 pm

    BG #139- thanks for the perspective! We are getting very spoiled! And that’s a good thing!

    Davone Bess Tweet Watch:
    Davone_Bess Pats Lose, Wild Cat Offense, PLAYOFFS BABY!

  148. Unkanesson November 14, 2008 1:41 pm

    Aloha kakou!
    The good recruiting news sure is great to see!! Good job to all involved!! And thanks to ST for keeping us in the loop!

    Kazz — I think an analogy that applies both to JD’s job as well as to the national economy, etc., is trying to steer a supertanker (or other large vessel). The order is given, the “wheel” is turned, but it takes awhile for the ship to be headed in the desired direction and get to its destination. We gotta be patient and appreciate the little evidences of progress (like recruiting, Ching Field, etc.).

    LizK — About the biggest sports news of 2008, my take is that the combined presence of so many local athletes at the Olympics is the story of the year, not just Brian Clay, Natasha Kai or the others individually, too numerous to mention here. jmho

  149. Stretch November 14, 2008 1:41 pm

    When visiting teams can fill up stadiums, it’s a huge plus for the “home” team. That’s why UNLV loves it when Hawaii plays there. It is one of their few games that are sold out.

  150. Kazz November 14, 2008 1:43 pm


    November 14th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
    The fact that the coaches can recruit so well despite UH being in the WAC is impressive. If UH was in the Pac-10, the recruiting would be truly amazing and players like Te’o would probably have a lot more incentive to stay home.

    Wasn’t Coach Mack “BIG 12 Recruiter of the Year” twice?

  151. Committed Road Warrior November 14, 2008 1:44 pm


    I think, as you already alluded to, what helps NMSU with their attendance issues is that they typically host UTEP or UNM every year. Both of those opponents usually deliver a sell-out for NMSU, though I’m with you that it’s probably a majority of the visiting fans buying up those tickets. They hosted Boise and drew ~16,000.

    For NMSU, as long as they get either UTEP or UNM at their house on a yearly basis and get a decent draw (over 15k) on at least one of their other games, they will squeeze just above the 15,000 minimum.

    On a side note, NMSU is selling ALL OF THEIR SEATS FOR $2 when they host Louisiana Tech in a couple weeks. That should certainly help in the attendance if the locals decide to partake in the promotion.

    As for Utah State, who knows? They were certainly lucky to get BOTH BYU and Utah at home this year, but next year they have to go to BOTH SLC and Provo. Who knows what’s in the works for them…..

  152. LizKauai [Believer] November 14, 2008 1:47 pm

    Unkanesson: you are right. All of the above! I get really excited about “kids” doing well and getting the support and love that they need.

    Stories like this are heartbreaking:

    OMAHA, Nebraska (CNN) — Nebraska officials said they’re concerned about an apparent rush by parents to drop their teenage children off at hospitals before lawmakers change the state’s troubled “safe haven” law.
    Four children have been dropped off at Nebraska hospitals in the last two days.

    The latest cases came on the eve of a special session of the Legislature on Friday to add an age limit to the law. On Thursday, a boy, 14, and his 17-year-old sister were dropped off at an Omaha hospital; the girl ran away from the hospital, officials said. A 5-year-old boy was left by his mother at a different hospital, officials said.

    The day before, a father flew in from Miami, Florida, to leave his teenage son at a hospital, officials said.

    “Please don’t bring your teenager to Nebraska,” Gov. Dave Heineman told CNN. “Think of what you are saying. You are saying you no longer support them. You no longer love them.”

  153. Kazz November 14, 2008 1:48 pm

    November 14th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
    Aloha kakou!
    The good recruiting news sure is great to see!! Good job to all involved!! And thanks to ST for keeping us in the loop!
    Kazz — I think an analogy that applies both to JD’s job as well as to the national economy, etc., is trying to steer a supertanker (or other large vessel). The order is given, the “wheel” is turned, but it takes awhile for the ship to be headed in the desired direction and get to its destination. We gotta be patient and appreciate the little evidences of progress (like recruiting, Ching Field, etc.).

    Yes indeed.

    We must be patient and it’s easier to be patient when we actually see some of the progress in front of our own eyes. Last I remember I saw some Matson-type containers at Ching Field so I assume that’s the turf itself? Plus you can see into the “unfinished” wing of the athletic complex when you make your way to SSC and you can clearly see furniture being moved in whereas it was a bunch of empty boxes. I believe AD JD said the new football offices were going to start in Jan or Feb of 09?

  154. chawan_cut November 14, 2008 2:15 pm

    what’ll be interesting is if both USU and NMSU keep their coaches past this year.
    NMSU has had Holbrook and that wide open passing offense but don’t have the wins to show for it. If they get new coaches and have to start from scratch next year, who knows if they’ll be able to attract fans to watch a (more than likely) less offensive style of football.
    Same with USU. They haven’t been good in years. They get lucky with a decent win here and there (against us this year, Fresno the other year), but more or less they’re the 3rd stringer in Utah.

  155. Rob25 November 14, 2008 2:24 pm

    Great news about Keli’ikipi!

    When we were camping at Waianae Army Rec this summer. Wade and Wes were there conditioning on the sand with a lot of football players. It was good to see them take the young ones and work with them to develop and get in shape every other afternoon. Looks like he could be a leader with off season conditioning when he gets to the team. That’s what we need to make sure that our players are in shape and ready to play once the season comes around.

    BTW, I may be going to the BB game tonight if I can get someone to pick up my son from his Book Fair concert at Niu Valley. Anyone want a kid? Mrs. A-House? OK Liz, I’m just kidding. 😆

  156. Bulla November 14, 2008 2:35 pm


    we’ll be at the game, can’t miss it. this is it, baby….roll the dice, all in, let it ride, c’mon big daddy…..time to settle all the waha going around and around.

    puns have some great athletes, crusaders have a great team.

    strap up, man up, and shut up…… it’s time to rock ILH!

  157. homey ⑤ November 14, 2008 2:40 pm

    MLiz – My mom took me to lunch and when we finished she drove around and left me at the hospital… 😆

    Lopati and Keliikipi ———> Awesome, just awesome!

    mih – I guess we differ in opinions because I don’t see Teo or any Hawaii athlete that chooses to go to school abroad as bringing shame to the islands or UH. If they don’t want the UH experience then that’s their choice. We shouldn’t be disowning them.

    Being recruited or given the opportunity to play sports beyond high school by Hawaii athletes shows that Hawaii does have the athletes that can compete anywhere, anyplace, anytime, against the best out there.

    Here we see Obama as our own and welcome him as a native son of Hawaii. But did he go to college in Hawaii? Did he hold office or represent Hawaii politically? He didn’t but we still see him as our own.

    Kekoa – There are many Hawaii athletes that go to school other than UH. That doesn’t mean they are not loyal to these islands. Many have gone away and have come back and contributed to their community, their birthplace.

    C’mon people, don’t hate the player, hate the game…

    Okay, it’s just opinions and it’s no big deal so we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

    Other than that, good afternoon and IT’S ALOHA FRIDAY!!!


  158. LizKauai [Believer] November 14, 2008 2:52 pm

    m-homey – Jordon Dizon is still “da man” to me and the rest of Waimea and others parts of Kauai.
    Kids can do amazing things when they feel loved and supported.

    Das’ why I’m stoked with Coach Mack and crew. Home visits are a very big deal. Like welcoming the student athlete over from one family to another.

  159. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 2:56 pm

    When I say shame.. I say it because UH is NOT in the top 5 options for consideration. That implies that UH isn’t offering our top local athletes enough of an offering (academics, perceived status and opportunities or otherwise) to make it even a consideration. I say shame to Hawaii, if UH is viewed that way. BUT I also say I wish him well wherever he may go because it’s not his fault if he perceives the opportunities at UH to be limited, it’s UH’s and the State for not marketing UH properly or not managing it’s resources and image better.

    When the State had a ‘surplus’ they didn’t fix the schools and University. Now that the economy is taking a steep downturn, we may not see any improvement for an even longer spell. That worries me.

  160. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 3:01 pm

    BUT, when the top athlete in the islands chooses UH, it also sends a message out to all other athletes — that the best of the best, who could write his own ticket anywhere, thinks UH is more than good enough. That makes it easier for other athletes who are sitting on the fence to make up their minds and that shot in the arm for UH’s image would do wonders for its program.

  161. homey ⑤ November 14, 2008 3:02 pm

    mih – I did not read it as bringing shame to UH for not offering enough.

    November 14th, 2008 at 7:53 am

    The irony is, as proud as we are of one of our own, his choosing to leave the islands for a mainland program brings shame to the islands.

  162. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 3:04 pm


    Lingle doesn’t see Obama as one of Hawaii’s own.. 😉

  163. da princess' classmate November 14, 2008 3:06 pm

    i ain’t much into the political scene but was lingle born or raised here. not that you have to be but….

  164. homey ⑤ November 14, 2008 3:09 pm

    Also, no matter how good UH markets itself there are still things that other schools can offer that UH doesn’t. Whether it be academics, environment, sports venues, change in lifestyle, life experiences, etc., students will go to where it best suits their needs.

  165. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 3:10 pm


    I’ve always felt that many leave for other universities not only to get the so-called, ‘mainland’ experience but because they sincerely feel that the educational opportunities are better elsewhere. me personally, I believe that education is what you make of it. When I used to interview potential employees for the companies I worked for, I never based my evaluation on the school they attended, although I will admit, I never turned a Havaard or Yale graduate down for at least an interview. Then again, I never hired one because I was always suspect as to why they would be applying for the job I was offering.. bwahahahhahah….

  166. homey ⑤ November 14, 2008 3:11 pm

    mih – but she was invited and is going to his inauguration ball. 😆

    dpc – Lingle wasn’t born in Hawaii.

  167. homey ⑤ November 14, 2008 3:13 pm

    mih – in my daughter’s case she attends a mainland university because UH doesn’t offer the degree she is after.

  168. Stretch November 14, 2008 3:14 pm

    Linda Lingle was born Linda Cutter in St. Louis, Mo., in 1953, the daughter of Richard and Mildred Cutter

  169. homey ⑤ November 14, 2008 3:16 pm

    Wow – Lingle is around al’s age!

  170. homey ⑤ November 14, 2008 3:17 pm

  171. homey ⑤ November 14, 2008 3:23 pm

    Can you imagine Jesse Williams and Keliikipi playing side by side as defensive tackles? That is some load for the opposing o-line!!!

  172. Calvin from Kona November 14, 2008 3:26 pm

    interesting reading today

  173. J-Dog November 14, 2008 3:27 pm

    I’m surprised that we only have 1 player from St. Louis going to UH. Are there any other D1 prospects currently on their team this year?

  174. homey ⑤ November 14, 2008 3:27 pm

    I wonder who will post first, gigi or guava?

  175. LizKauai [Believer] November 14, 2008 3:29 pm

    One of our brightest kids was accepted to Harvard. He came back after only a few months. The “culture shock” was too much and the ivy league social stratification (see Trading Places) interfered with his Pakala boy sensibilities.

    College is not just about academic education.

    I say we keep the homefires burning and leave the doors open so our kids can feel welcome if they change their minds.

  176. homey ⑤ November 14, 2008 3:30 pm

    J-Dog – Kapua Sai…6’5″ 300+ lbs.

  177. J-Dog November 14, 2008 3:32 pm

    All this talk about future warriors has me wondering who will step up and be a leader after we lose our Senior leaders like Solly and Adam. Especially during the off-season workouts. Besides Funaki, I’m wondering who that will be.

  178. homey ⑤ November 14, 2008 3:37 pm

    J-Dog – good thought…who will step up? I see a couple of QB’s leading the way. Yep, who will lead the off-season workouts? Hmmmmm…

  179. homey ⑤ November 14, 2008 3:45 pm

    Rocky will be a leader.

  180. protector November 14, 2008 3:51 pm

    I agree with much that ‘madeinhawaii’ has said except for the statement that Manti Te’o opting for a mainland school brings “shame” on the islands & the University. Although I would love Te’o to come here and I agree with what it would mean for recruiting & increased potential for UH, I understand that a decision is sometimes made because of the increased exposure and visibility and subsequent increased draft potential a certain school can give you. With USC, UCLA & Stanford, it could also be argued that students & families may feel it will mean a “superior” education for their child, with the exception perhaps with some of our world-class / award-winning departments. I’m disappointed Te’o & some others choose NOT to consider UH, but so be it. I don’t want any players that don’t WANT to be here! In fact I wish the media would stop covering the Manti Te’o Sweepstakes. Let’s give more added coverage to the locals & mainlanders who not only committed to UH but are enthusiastic about it! All of next years recruits all seem to be jazzed to be Warriors (whether local or mainland) and I get jacked when I hear that. Incidentally, though I’m understanding about others going away, if they DO help in beating a Hawaii athletic team, I consider them despicable TRAITORS and will hate them always for betraying Hawaii and they will reside in my personal Hall of Shame. Anyway this next recruiting class could be considered a terrific one already, and it’s not even finished yet. Kudos to Coach Mack & his staff!!

  181. homey ⑤ November 14, 2008 4:04 pm

    protector – an innocent but wise 2nd grader once told me, “Hate is such a powerful word, don’t be a hater.”

    However, I am like you in that I have a similar Hall of Shame. 😆

  182. Stephen Tsai November 14, 2008 4:06 pm

    Free hoops tickets to post No. 225.

  183. homey ⑤ November 14, 2008 4:08 pm

    ST – Which game? Tonight, Weekend, or Monday?

  184. homey ⑤ November 14, 2008 4:10 pm

    oops, just read the top…

  185. Stephen Tsai November 14, 2008 4:13 pm

    Tonight’s game.
    Great seats, too.

  186. jojo ® November 14, 2008 4:13 pm


  187. LizKauai [Believer] November 14, 2008 4:18 pm

    go m-homey!

  188. Rob25 November 14, 2008 4:18 pm

    Does that mean that Mr. A-House will be paying the blog a visit today?

  189. LizKauai [Believer] November 14, 2008 4:53 pm

    broke da blog??

  190. LizKauai [Believer] November 14, 2008 4:55 pm

    Ok… I’ll let Oahu guys go…

  191. Stephen Tsai November 14, 2008 4:57 pm

    OK, who broke the freakin’ blog again?
    Remember, do not keep hitting refresh.

  192. dubs November 14, 2008 4:59 pm


  193. jojo ® November 14, 2008 5:01 pm

    I think I broke it, sorrrrry

  194. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2008 5:01 pm

    Cincy is playing Louisville on ESPN2. Cincy looks tough.

  195. Rob25 November 14, 2008 5:01 pm

    Why does someone always break the blog?

    Good thing that I got free ticket already!

  196. Ralph November 14, 2008 5:02 pm

    anyone else having problems refreshing the WB or the HA online site…when available it takes a long time to refresh, or simply data base not available…I used Chrome, just switched back to firefox, I don’t know if it is the server or the browser….

  197. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2008 5:02 pm

    My comments may take some time to appear??!! This is an outrage!!! Don’t they know who I AM??!!

    😆 j/k

  198. Rob25 November 14, 2008 5:04 pm


    Good thing that it’s time for me to go home! First stop Niu Valley Book Fair, second stop SSC to watch UH put the beat down on Jim Leahey’s USF team!

  199. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2008 5:04 pm

    Let’s see what happens if I hit “refresh” a few times. 😆

  200. dubs November 14, 2008 5:05 pm

    thats a lot of hate for every kid that goes away… what about the kids that wanted to stay but UH told them no? whos the bad guy now? i think UH needs to seriously upgrade facilities at both the athletic department and upper campus. that would even the recruiting field.

    although i bleed green, if my son or daughter had a chance to go to a good school on the mainland, i would try to steer them in that direction.

  201. Ralph November 14, 2008 5:06 pm

    anyone else having problems refreshing the WB and HA online site? I’m also receiving data base not available after a long wait..I used Chrome, just switched back to firefox, and I don’t know if it is the server or the browser that makes it difficult to log on…

  202. Ralph November 14, 2008 5:07 pm

    opening night for BB and not much chatting for Nash’s boys….does Dayton have his only blog…

  203. Mad Dog November 14, 2008 5:08 pm

    Just trying to run the count up

  204. LizKauai [Believer] November 14, 2008 5:09 pm

    Ralph- it’s a contest-induced “broke blog”…

  205. LizKauai [Believer] November 14, 2008 5:09 pm

    er-contest-induced “broke BATCH blog”…

  206. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2008 5:10 pm

    gimmee a “T”!!!

  207. LizKauai [Believer] November 14, 2008 5:10 pm

    Aloha- going to kaukau and then meet the Tournament of Roses President who is visiting Kauai tonight!

  208. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2008 5:11 pm

    gimmee a “I”!!!
    gimmee a “C”!!!

  209. Jun Tao November 14, 2008 5:12 pm

    adding to the count. . .

  210. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2008 5:12 pm

    gimmee a “K”!!!
    gimmee a “E”!!!

  211. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2008 5:13 pm

    gimmee a “T”!!!
    gimmee a “S”!!!

  212. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2008 5:14 pm


  213. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 5:14 pm

    Homey…(sorry I got booted…Database error)

    I can understand leaving for a degree that isn’t offered here. I can even understand going to a school with a better program in a particular study. Shoots, I can understand going for religious beliefs.

    USC, UCLA, Stanford, BYU, Notre Dame? Notre Dame? BYU for religious reasons. Stanford maybe for academic excellence, but the other three? I’d think — pure football. As such, I just think that not being in the top FIVE for consideration is somewhat of a slap in the face for UH.

    Since I was going to UH in the early 70’s they talked about taking UH to the next level academically. I remember those marches to the Capital on a number of ocassions demanding more for the school. Even then they talked about competing for the best professors, programs, and facilities. I saw them expand, but not improve. In fact, in the spirit of bringing more to UH, one of the first art shows with foreign artists in the then new Art Building, I arranged and I wasn’t even an art student. It was a fabulous place then. Now it’s simply an art building. I saw UH sprawling outwards but what has been left behind is going to ruin. How many times must Hamilton leaks be repaired before they get it right?

    Sadly, without money, sponsors, or just an outspoken, extremely respected and influential advocate, I don’t see it changing, much.

    When Colt opened his mouth about the soap dispensers, it was just the tip of the iceberg and it reflected badly on the UH administration and State. When we went to the Sugar Bowl, the local Citizenry made us proud in their support and numbers, the ones who tried to get a free ride off of UH embarrassed us again.

    Building a tradition means building it in more than just football. But it has to start somewhere.. so why not football, eh?

    Excellence here.. excellence there.. next basketball.. then regain the National Title in Wahine Volleyball… maybe even men’s. Who knows? It might become contagious and spread to other departments, as well.

  214. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 5:15 pm

    BTW…anybody know who’s winning the cincy game?

  215. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2008 5:15 pm


  216. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2008 5:16 pm

    Or not… 😉

  217. curveball November 14, 2008 5:16 pm

    New recruit for Hawaii..Jackson Holden Bressler first grandson was born 1 hour ago..8lbs..20 inches..he is going to be a safety like granpa….

  218. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2008 5:18 pm

    Who knows, with this blog server…

  219. Tai November 14, 2008 5:18 pm


  220. wafan November 14, 2008 5:19 pm

    LizK . . .

    Broke Blog Mountain?

    Nah, Mr. Tsai, just kidding!

  221. Tai November 14, 2008 5:19 pm

    UH by 10 tonight.

  222. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2008 5:20 pm

    Congrats, Curveball!!!

  223. Ralph November 14, 2008 5:21 pm

    how come I got posted 196 and 201 when I checked after refreshing the first time it wasn’t there so I wrote it again (201)

  224. Hawaiianbod November 14, 2008 5:21 pm


  225. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 5:21 pm

    Welcome to the Warrior Nation Wade!

    Chee huu das what I’m talking about, another Keli’ikipi for run over people. Make sure your bruddah West teach you the stiff arm move he went use on the USC guy, dat was classic!

  226. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2008 5:21 pm

    Cincy, 14 – 10 early in the third.

  227. Tai November 14, 2008 5:21 pm

    Cincy down 17-14 start of 3rd and just fumbled to L’Ville

  228. Ralph November 14, 2008 5:22 pm

    cincy is beatable, but louisville has a lousy pass defense, but louisville is very inconsistent

  229. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 5:22 pm

    Good luck to Manti Te’o eventhough he probably will not wear a Warrior Uniform gotta respect a kid who definitely got his head on straight.

  230. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2008 5:23 pm

    I stand corrected.

  231. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 5:24 pm

    Did I just win tickets to tonights BBall game?

  232. Stephen Tsai November 14, 2008 5:24 pm

    OK, Pauoa Boy is the winner. So, he either can claim it for someone or we give it to DPK.
    Tipoff is in less than 2 hours, so must decide now.

  233. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 5:25 pm

    Congrats curveball…pretty big boy whew…

  234. wafan November 14, 2008 5:25 pm

    Congratulations, Grandpa Curveball!!!

    Did he come out with a football helmet, or a baseball glove?

    Geez. I sure I am not number 225. If I am — SORRY!

  235. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 5:26 pm

    Hold on let me make a phone call and let you know.

  236. Hoohiki November 14, 2008 5:28 pm

    Does the WAC give “Recruiter of the Year” Award? If they do, Mac’s the man…

  237. Ralph November 14, 2008 5:30 pm

    wow curveball 8+ lbs, bigger than your watermelons, imagine pushing out a child that is bigger than the watermelon. I hope pain in child birth is a myth and all the screaming I heard at the maternity ward were screams of joy…lol

  238. wafan November 14, 2008 5:31 pm

    Hoohiki . . .

    Should the Recruiter of the Year Award go to the team of recruiters?

  239. cheepono November 14, 2008 5:31 pm

    go warriors!

  240. wafan November 14, 2008 5:33 pm

    Hey! Where did my comment go?

  241. Ralph November 14, 2008 5:34 pm

    if louisville beats cincy, only pitt would be in the top 25 from the big East, and pitt is about 23 or so…better for the non BCS conferences with the BE doing poorly along with the ACC

  242. wafan November 14, 2008 5:34 pm

    Okay, you techie-kine guys. The contes stay pau. Let da comments tru.

  243. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 5:35 pm

    dayum how come the post so frikkin slow what da heo?

  244. curveball November 14, 2008 5:36 pm

    Football helmet in his right hand glove in his left..maybe I should be smart and buy him some golf clubs 🙂

  245. Ralph November 14, 2008 5:38 pm

    ST can we have a list of the commitments to date, not who were offered scholarships

  246. Stephen Tsai November 14, 2008 5:39 pm

    Pauoa Boy:
    Call me at (808) 525-8051

  247. Maverick November 14, 2008 5:40 pm

    Did I Win????


    I’m not allowed to accept freebie tix after having to forfeit our game of the year against Nevada. :<

  248. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 5:41 pm


    Nevermind go ahead and give the tickets to DPK. Mahalos anyway! DPK if you go, give me one scouting report on Roderick Fleming heard dat guy is the real deal!

  249. Ralph November 14, 2008 5:41 pm

    curveball give him math books, become an engineer, and not have to work in your adult life, watch football practice, travel a lot, eat a lot, but keep the green bottle away from him…

  250. Maverick November 14, 2008 5:42 pm


    ESPN just gave some props to Hawaii “Gotta watch out for Vili the Warrior when playing Hawaii”

  251. Stephen Tsai November 14, 2008 5:45 pm

    Come get your tickets. Call me.

  252. wafan November 14, 2008 5:49 pm

    Curveball . . .

    It was not your grandson that hurt coming out, it was the helmet and baseball glove. Good thing he did not have golf clubs, too!


  253. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 5:50 pm

    Great Job on Recruiting Coaches…

    Defense is definitely going to be Top 25 material, can we see a Defensive Dynasty happening here? Now that we have our defense forming up nicely lets get our offense some key players like uh a certain running back around my way. I’m telling you Coach I know you got the info and videos on him, he’s legit and will be a star at the college level guaranteed. Offer him a schollie, if he says yes we’ll have a Barry Sanders/Reggie Bush type RB for years, if not so what it won’t hurt to offer him.

  254. curveball November 14, 2008 5:50 pm


    November 14th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
    curveball give him math books, become an engineer, and not have to work in your adult life, watch football practice, travel a lot, eat a lot, but keep the green bottle away from him…

    I will get ahold of Stretch for complete details..

  255. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 5:57 pm


    Hey!! Good show! Congratulations!

  256. Committed Road Warrior November 14, 2008 6:01 pm

    McDonnough and Spielman are calling the Cincy-Louisville game on ESPN2. I like them much better than Tessitore and Gilmore who seem to be dominating the Friday night games this year.

  257. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 6:07 pm

    the cincy.. louisville game is turning into a mud slugfest.

  258. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 6:09 pm

    Okay .. maybe no mud.. a water fight? 🙂 Last I heard it’s 21-20 now in favor of Cincy..

  259. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 6:11 pm

    hmm.. my last post disappeared… or didn’t make it onto the boards..
    Cincy 21.. Louiville the rain.

  260. al November 14, 2008 6:23 pm

    gee homey…..some girls told me that i look better than lingle and (ahem) younger!

  261. al November 14, 2008 6:25 pm

    homey….i forgive you. really i do. i am sure that you had a measely tuna fish sandwich with dried whole wheat bread and no mayo or cheese.

    where as i did partake at an all you can eat korean place.


  262. al November 14, 2008 6:27 pm

    some of us like to record the daytime games so that we can watch at our leisure when the boss goes to bed.

    how insensitive of others to post those scores. i tell you some people’s children. what til i see aunty marialani in hilo you guys going get it!

  263. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 6:28 pm

    Auryte can watch tonights basketball game online, chee huu!

  264. LizKauai (iPhone) November 14, 2008 6:29 pm

    congrats, DPK and Curveball!

  265. al November 14, 2008 6:33 pm

    okay getting ready for dinner…..

    parting shot……………

    it is good if we can get all the blue chip local boys to stay home and play ball.
    t won’t happen, let’s be real about this. for various reasons some will go away. for us to retain 66 1/3% of them would be excellent i would say.

    it looks like this regime will work very hard and have a great product/program to keep more and more of the local boys home.

    as we get more and more recruiting classes like this one is developing into, the stadium will be packed for every game in just a few years.

    the heart and soul of our warriors will be the local boys. complemented with the influx of great mainlanders will brew much success in the years to come.

    the timing is perfect.

    go warriors!!!!!

  266. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 6:36 pm

    The link for those of you on mainland that like watch tonight’s BBall game.

  267. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 6:37 pm

    Okay this post delay is really frikkin irritating, lets go tekkies and get it together!

  268. LizKauai (iPhone) November 14, 2008 6:50 pm

    PB- batching is the way this software works.

    Burp. Ukuleleboi and I just had Ono grinds at Garden Island BBQ. Pork bittermelon for me and orange chicken for him.

  269. Stretch November 14, 2008 6:55 pm

    watching the cincy game and #5 for them looks like Adam Sandler. note to self wen cincy comes to town – #5 is the waterboy!!

  270. Ralph November 14, 2008 7:02 pm

    PB maybe the twins can use their mojo on the tekkies to make this thing work faster and smoother….

  271. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 7:06 pm

    No doubt, the posting is really slow…oh well I just going watch the game then…

  272. Kekoa November 14, 2008 7:14 pm

    Curveball ~ Maybe Homey will be available for golf lessons with his Playskool clubs. Ring the bell and he comes out swinging!

    I want to add my congratulations and my hopes that he will grow up to be a fine upstanding young man. It’s the grandparents that are in charge of that department, an I’m sure you and the Mrs. will be the best.

  273. curveball November 14, 2008 7:15 pm

    #1 daughter advises that Jackson Holden Bressler has pooped and is on the boob..he will be watching college ball tomorrow

  274. jm2375 (21) November 14, 2008 7:27 pm

    Evening Tsaikos!

    Congrats on the birth of your grandson, Curveball. Spoil him rotten, dat’s what grandpas are for!

    So, the days I have a little time to watch practice, no more. grrr. Wuz raining hard dis am in Upper Campus area.

    Heard Coach Mack mention on da Animals dis pm that dey have offered 2 Jrs this recruiting trip. anybody got ideas about who?

    having din-din @ Bangkok Chef in Nuuanu while waiting for kid. eggplant chix, yummmm.

    anybody know how da wahine bb team doing tonight?

  275. A-House November 14, 2008 7:36 pm

    Curveball and Grandma Curveball:

    Congrats on the birth of Jackson Holden Bressler and to his parents.

    Curveball, hope your daughter and family will be able to relocate to Hawaii. Thus, making it easier to “direct” Jackson in the UH direction.

    May he grow big, strong, agile, and an intellect that’s out of sight.

  276. A-House November 14, 2008 7:39 pm

    OK, good neighbor, we will wait patiently for your future posts on commits for football.

    But, darns, get us the info ASAP!!!!!!

  277. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 7:41 pm

    hmmm… basketball starting up soon.

  278. Kekoa November 14, 2008 7:50 pm

    Homey ~ It’s rare that you and I ever disagree about anything, but I think in this one instance, you misunderstood my intent. Here again is my blockquote:

    November> 14th, 2008 at 9:20 am
    mih ~ I too am not eager to join the ‘Bon Voyage Teo’ crowd. The one statement he made about encouraging mainland coaches to recruit more of our talented athletes does not set well with me.

    I agree when you point out the fact that he could do more for OUR University in OUR home state by promoting OUR program. Wherever he may go, it will be THEIR university, in THEIR state, and promote more of our elite players for THEIR program.

    His family taught him all the skills he needs to get by in this world, but forgot to include a sense of loyalty to ones birth place.

    My intent was to point out the fact that loyalty is an important trait. “An Eagle Scout is Loyal!” I just thought he should have exercised more of it.

    It has nothing to do with any other kid who decides to stay or go. Just him. Just because he is the media darling. Everybody is watching! The influence such a choice has is incredible.

  279. Ralph November 14, 2008 7:54 pm

    jm2375 the wahines losing by 7 at half time….

  280. alnbama November 14, 2008 7:59 pm

    Oh yeah, love my iptv, ready to see the new Bows in action. Hi Liz, my next door neighbors and good friends finally moved to Penacola Fla. Alabama is rated #1, but still hard to cheer for them, my heart belongs to the Warriors.

  281. expat November 14, 2008 8:03 pm

    Game on. Punahou 7, St Loius 0 after the first series. Punahou had a 79 yard pass Shutter to Toma on the first play from scrimmage and then converted 4th and goal to ahead.

  282. Garret November 14, 2008 8:04 pm

    According to USA Today, the Wahine lost 63-47.

  283. expat November 14, 2008 8:11 pm

    Oh ouch. Te’o 40 yard run after St Louis 3 and out. Punahou 14-0 after two offensive series. Go Puns

  284. Stephen Tsai November 14, 2008 8:14 pm

    I actually could have run Keliikipi and Lopati on the same day, but I decided to spread them out.
    It’s a bye week, you know.

  285. jm2375 (21) November 14, 2008 8:21 pm

    Garret, ewwwwww. kinda like last season.

    In da car listening to game. Need to watch replay later.

    ST – so who are the jrs that were given offers?

  286. Garret November 14, 2008 8:22 pm

    Does anyone have an example of something that was done one way for a long time until someone figured out a new way to do it that saved money/time/or worked a lot better? I’m looking for an everyday time of thing–household item or some other thing that everyone uses.

    My example was how everyone took the freeway from point A to point B until someone figured out that a back road got there much quicker. Bad analogy I know. I was looking for some every day thing but couldn’t think of anything.

    The reason why I need the analogy is to describe the difference between how everyone has been doing things a certain way and my company’s technique solves the problem a whole different way, using much less power/computation.

    If anyone thinks of a good analogy, please post it here or e-mail me at gokamoto at gmail dot com. I need the analogy for an article coming out about my company in National Defense Magazine…the reporter said that I could e-mail a better analogy to be used in the article if I could find a one.

  287. expat November 14, 2008 8:24 pm

    St Louis fumble on next series and Punahou recovers at the STL 46. Toma reverse down to 4 yrd line. St Louis holds though.

  288. Kekoa November 14, 2008 8:24 pm

    Clever these sports writers. One born everyday. Curveball beware!

  289. curveball November 14, 2008 8:32 pm

    They are both school teachers..both have Masters..they want to move here next year..going to get fun…..

  290. Hoohiki November 14, 2008 8:33 pm

    Wafan….Big 12 Recruiter of the Year – Coach Mac, TTU 19__ __

    WAC Recruiter of the Year – Coach Mac, Univ of HI, 2008

    How’s Nash’s recruits doing against the Dons?

  291. Kekoa November 14, 2008 8:34 pm

    Garret ~ In response to your quest for the better mouse trap, I submit to you the following: Velcro…Need I give 101 examples of the things it has replaced, like buttons or button holes?

  292. Kekoa November 14, 2008 8:40 pm

    Hoohiki ~ They are both a little ragged. UH took the lead from the start, and looks to be the better team so far, but both teams are turning the ball over, so it’s the team that settles down and controls the ball that will pull out the win.

  293. 702WarriorNation November 14, 2008 8:45 pm

    Analogy = Roomba?

  294. WarriorMojo November 14, 2008 8:49 pm


    What kind of analogy are you looking for? How about:

    Abacus vs. calculator

    Hand written manuscripts vs. printing press

    A bridge spanning a gorge or water, i.e. Golden Gate or Brooklyn Bridge, to save travel time and expense

    Quill and ink vs. pen

    Hieoroglyphics/pictograms vs. written alphabet

    Kindling/flint vs matchstick or lighter

    Running the ball vs. forward pass

  295. Kekoa November 14, 2008 8:52 pm

    Garret ~ From the TA-312 (US Army’s Hand Crank Field Telephone used extensively until well into the 80’s) to the Cell Phone used to save a soldier’s life in a U.S. Operation in the late 80’s.

  296. A-House November 14, 2008 9:03 pm

    Good neighbor:

    You really know how to keep all Tsaikos reveted to the blog hoping to get a glimse of Warrior recruit info.

    Now, what have you got for us on the 2 JC recruits who are/were visiting lower campus?

    Any more good news concerning our “local” seniors or juniors or sophmores or mainland recruits?

    We are all hungry for this kind of information.

    Proud to be a Warrior fan!!!!

  297. wafan November 14, 2008 9:03 pm

    Hoohiki . . .

    I agree about Mack. I just think the entire coaching staff is involved with recruiting so why not recognize the entire group?

  298. Mad Dog November 14, 2008 9:05 pm


    Any update on the St Louis-Punahou game?

  299. A-House November 14, 2008 9:07 pm

    Hi Alnbama:

    Long time no post!

    Good to hear you are keeping the “home” fires burning over there.

    Hope you will be able to make it back and join us for a tailgate or cattle call to meet more Tsaikos!!!

  300. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 9:16 pm

    21-7 Punahou on top.. half time..

    30-29 Rainbows on top…. BBall halftime

  301. Postmanke November 14, 2008 9:18 pm

    Rainbow Warriors look pretty good I dont see how we’re predicted to finish 7th in the WAC. It’s definitely not for lack of talent. Well assembled team. Nash, Wheeler and company did a great job recruiting!

    This new look basketball team will surprise many. I hope the flex offense doesn’t hold them back..

    where’s Ji Xiang?

  302. Hawaiianbod November 14, 2008 9:18 pm

    Mad Dod – Puns 21 STL – 7 (half)

  303. Mad Dog November 14, 2008 9:18 pm

    Thanks for the updates, madeinhawaii

  304. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 9:18 pm

    First Half of BBall Game…

    Very sloppy play by both teams so far…maybe butterflies???

    Roderick Fleming seems to have a presence on the floor although he hasn’t played much due to foul trouble early in the game. When he is in you can sense that he is special. He will be relied upon heavily this season I can tell. Very quick, athletic, and is the best player on the court.

    Lasha is a terrible ball handler and is irritating to watch. So many dumb turnovers. He can shoot and needs to let Nitoto handle the ball while he comes off screens to spot up and shoot.

    They need to involve Bill Amis more down low. From what I see there is not enough ball movement and they are holding onto the ball to long. Ball needs to move and offense needs to move, too much dribbling.

    WAC refs still suck regardless of sport. These BBall refs are as terrible as the football refs.

  305. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 9:19 pm


    Remember the old vacuum cleaners? With their little fans on the top of the a motor that created suction? And today’s vortex cyclonic action which revolutionized vacuum cleaners by eliminating bags?

    How about inkjet printers for photographs?

    Xerography over lithography.

  306. Hawaiianbod November 14, 2008 9:19 pm


    Mad Dod=Mad Dog

  307. alnbama November 14, 2008 9:19 pm

    Hey Mr. A-house, getting fustrated watching the basketball game. Sure wish one of the point guards will step up and take control. Maybe the Hawaii Bowl, providing the Warriors are in it, would be a good one to come home for. But cannot just think about myself, as my 2 daughters would never forgive me if i went without them.

  308. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 9:21 pm


    records over cylinders
    tapes over records
    digital over analog
    cd’s over records and tapes
    blue ray..

    GUI over DOS

  309. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 9:23 pm

    swfiter over mops

    robovac ? that automatic vacuum cleaner.


  310. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 9:24 pm

    This team seems very athletic though and I agree they will not finish 7th in the WAC.

  311. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 9:24 pm

    Dram over RAM over eprom

  312. wafan November 14, 2008 9:26 pm


    Punahou or St. Louis.

    St. Louis or Punahou.

    Decisions, decisions.

    Sorry Expat, gotta go with the Catholic school on this one.

    Trust me. This hurts me more than it hurts you.


  313. Koa-mahu November 14, 2008 9:26 pm

    Garret – hormone pills

    without it i would sound like a man and have no chi chis, then i couldn’t fool all the desperate men on Hotel Street. hehehehe no joke!

  314. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 9:28 pm


    Too many turnovers in this game is very frustrating and some defensive lapses too. We are missing a true point who can manage the offense. Nitoto is okay but I don’t see the ball moving enough. I would like to see Amis more involved and Fleming start becoming more aggresive on offense attacking the basket…

  315. Hawaiianbod November 14, 2008 9:31 pm

    28-7 Puns

  316. Hawaiianbod November 14, 2008 9:34 pm

    28-14 3qtr

  317. Kekoa November 14, 2008 9:35 pm

    Punahou up 28-14.

  318. wafan November 14, 2008 9:35 pm


    debit card/cheque book

    word processor/typewriter





    touch tone/dial




    prepared foods/scratch foods

  319. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 9:36 pm


    sliced bread?
    sonar, radio, radar, laser,

    Remember the evolution of the typewriter? to IBM selectric ball, to daisywheel and 9-pin, laser and inkjet?
    You can still buy daisywheel.

  320. Postmanke November 14, 2008 9:37 pm

    oh my…

  321. madeinhawaii November 14, 2008 9:38 pm

    rolled sushi.. what was it before that?

  322. Devon Bess Spotting November 14, 2008 9:39 pm

    Opened up my SI today and on the first big spread picture there is Miami’s Ronnie Brown hurdling a Seahawks player. Looked a little closer and there is #15 Devon Bess in the background. Way to go Bess! Making it big time, even if it is a little at a time.
    I’m glad he stuck with Miami, would love to have him and Ryan back this year! Wow! how things could have been different with those two experience receivers coming back.

  323. SteveM November 14, 2008 9:44 pm

    Things are shaping up nicely for….

    Saturday, November 15, 2008
    9:00 PM (after Wahine Volleyball)
    Club Genji — click here for map

    Karaoke Call and Mrs. Bulla’s birthday celebration after the Wahine volley match this Saturday. Some arriving at 8:15 for dinner first.

    Come anytime, leave anytime. Featuring lots of 60’s, 70’s and 80’s favorites to rock the house! Some Japanese tunes too as we share the main lounge (unless we double our numbers), but we’ll have room to dance–and room for “walking boots”–in the aisles 🙂

    RSVP’s not necessary, but let me know if you can (for initial setup reasons and if you want late night nabeyaki udon).

  324. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 9:45 pm

    His name is Davone Bess not Devon Bess

  325. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 9:49 pm

    No forget to vote for Davone Bess and the other Hawaii players on the Pro-Bowl ballots at Can vote as many times as you like. Lets bring him back home for the Pro-Bowl, he is listed as a returner.

  326. wafan November 14, 2008 9:50 pm

    front loader/top loader/front loader



    chalk board/white board

    hunter-gatherer/grocery store

    cloth diapers/disposable diapers

  327. expat November 14, 2008 9:52 pm

    Sorry, had to do the dishes. My brother keeps sending me text message updates. My wife thinks we are both crazy.

    Punahou 28 St Louis 14 end of third with Punahou 2nd and goal on the 2.

  328. expat November 14, 2008 9:55 pm

    Looks like my last post might have gotten caught in moderation. Looks like there are other updates. Had to do the dishes. Punahou just scored. 35-14 with 11:16 left in game.

  329. expat November 14, 2008 9:59 pm

    Pretty big delay on my #327 post being posted. Te’o scored that last one too. That kid is a pretty darn good running back. Makaula caught the 4th and 10 pass from the 19 to put them on the 2 yard line. I hear Stutzman is having a good game.

    Punahou has been going for it on every 4th down in St Louis territory. Kale Ane is going for broke. No field goal attempts for either team. All in.

  330. Garret November 14, 2008 10:00 pm

    Wow, thank you to everyone for the great examples! I’m going to somehow narrow it down to one and e-mail the reporter!

    I look forward to posting a free play link to the article about my company…

  331. whitey November 14, 2008 10:00 pm

    evening Tsaikos. good basketball game with the rainbow warriors. good hustle and speed. need to work on ball handling, but overall future looks good.

    my congratulations to Manti T on his great accomplishment in scouting. whereever he goes with his choice of college is all right with me and wish him the best in the future.

  332. alnbama November 14, 2008 10:00 pm

    Pauoa, the offense sputters, maybe need to simplify for early part of the season

  333. expat November 14, 2008 10:00 pm

    Punahou takes over on downs at the St Louis 46. St Louis went for it 4th and 5.

  334. wafan November 14, 2008 10:02 pm


    cars/train/mass transit


    trans-pacific cruise/trans-pacific flight


  335. Garret November 14, 2008 10:02 pm

    I hope that my parents and nephew are enjoying the game tonight–they have 3 season tickets to the basketball games, and I get to use them when I’m in Hawaii. I know that they (and lots of others) were looking forward to seeing Fleming play today–sorry to hear that he was in foul trouble.

  336. Garret November 14, 2008 10:06 pm

    Did JJ not enforce disclipline at UH or was the previous coach at SMU really lax? I can’t remember him ever having to suspend this many players in any season. I know that he suspended a few at UH early on, but never something like this! Mac enforces his rules and he hasn’t had to suspend players aside from Tyler (at least that I can think of).

    SMU coach June Jones said Thursday that the suspensions of three starters were among 17 suspensions handed down throughout the season, mainly for the “three strikes” policy.

    “They’re expected to go to class, be on time and not miss practice, meetings and study hall,” Jones said.

    During his last four years at Hawaii, Jones said he didn’t have any suspensions. The first two years, however, were a different story. It included the suspension of Charles Tharp, Hawaii’s leading rusher the previous two seasons, for 1999 spring practice after Tharp broke an athletic department rule.

    “This happens everywhere you go when people have been losing,” Jones said. “I would guarantee you, after we set the standard, it’s not going to happen any more.”

  337. Garret November 14, 2008 10:08 pm

    Free play link time. Please ignore my next 5 posts if you do not want the off-topic stuff.

    The defense and aerospace industries are expected to continue to grow despite this economic slowdown.

  338. Garret November 14, 2008 10:09 pm

    Rumors are that Apple is making its own search engine.

  339. Garret November 14, 2008 10:09 pm

    I’m jealous that the G1 phone is free through T-Mobile in Europe and now the Blackberry Storm is free to business customers in Europe!

  340. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 10:09 pm

    There are many things about the offense that stand out…

    -Ball not moving enough, holding on to it too long…

    -Weak screens and players not rubbing off the screen hard

    -Players standing around too much

    -Flemings needs to have the ball and be aggresive to the basket

  341. Garret November 14, 2008 10:09 pm

    Villagers stole an Orthodox Church in Russia brick by brick, selling the bricks to a local businessman.

  342. expat November 14, 2008 10:10 pm

    St Louis in the red zone after holding Punahou on 4th and 8 at St Louis 29.

  343. Garret November 14, 2008 10:10 pm

    Woman discovered her husband’s avatar having sex with another person’s avatar on Second Life…and filed for divorce the next day.

  344. Garret November 14, 2008 10:10 pm

    Free play links pau.

  345. expat November 14, 2008 10:11 pm

    TD St Louis after missed tackle. Kick good. Punahou 35 St Louis 21 with 5:32 left

  346. Ralph November 14, 2008 10:12 pm

    lots of bad passes….and the Dons appear to be a bit quicker in the second half…

  347. Garret November 14, 2008 10:12 pm

    Pauoa Boy,

    At least you seem positive about the talent you are seeing. The offense isn’t going to run as smoothly as it should this early, especially given that Fleming was away from the team. I really wish coach Nash and the team well! He’ll get the team going, especially after a few recruiting classes gives him the depth and athleticism that he’s looking for in his system.

  348. expat November 14, 2008 10:12 pm

    St Louis does not recover onside kick. Punahou ball on Punahou 40.

  349. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 10:12 pm


    – Lasha needs to get the ball out of his hands, too many turnovers making dumb passes

    – Balocka and Amis need to bang

    – Again, give Flemings the ball and let him work…

  350. expat November 14, 2008 10:16 pm

    Punahou TD Shutter to Toma. About 60 yards, 45 in air. Kick blocked. Punahou 41 – St Louis 21 4:23 left.

    That might do it.

  351. Kekoa November 14, 2008 10:17 pm

    Balocka is a whiner. Yes, he’s had a few bad calls, and no calls, but don’t beg! Da Refs are real chitheads, but when you whine on every call, you will get no sympathy from the devil.

  352. Ralph November 14, 2008 10:19 pm

    we seem to be losing the rebound battle..and the dons guards are driving for layups, are we that slow at the top of the key?

  353. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 10:19 pm

    This team is quick and athletic but they have defensive lapses. Amis and Balocka need to help out better on defense too many easy baskets down low.

    Offense needs to run through Flemings he hasn’t touched the ball enough. You can tell though that he is very explosive and can create his own shot. The thing though is that the ball is not moving enough and players are standing too much. Need to set screens and move so they can create easier shots. I think we’ll be alright and things will get fixed. My only concern is we need a banger down low and a steady point. Also, they need to handle the ball better so many stupid turnovers…

  354. Garret November 14, 2008 10:20 pm

    Congratulations to Punahou for their big win. It sounds like the game is basically over and they were quite impressive.

  355. Ralph November 14, 2008 10:21 pm

    fans already leaving? we down by 4 with 40 secs to go…JD should lock the exits until the game is over!lol

  356. Kekoa November 14, 2008 10:22 pm

    St Louis decides to score..down 41-28, but time is running out with 2:48 left.

  357. expat November 14, 2008 10:24 pm

    The game is not over yet. St Louis offsides on onside kick but will try again.

  358. Mad Dog November 14, 2008 10:24 pm

    expat and Kekoa,

    Thanks for the football updates. My wife keeps asking for the latest update.

  359. Nalani November 14, 2008 10:24 pm

    Duffer – thx for remembering my boy. He did real good in the Scout Bowl game. Played Center for the winning team. Made all his blocks.

  360. expat November 14, 2008 10:25 pm

    Punahou ball on Pun 48. St Louis still has 2 TOs I believe.

  361. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 10:26 pm

    Hawaii fans are terrible, leaving and we down by 3 with 13.5 to go…what a shame!

  362. Ralph November 14, 2008 10:26 pm

    Kekoa Balocka is a big time whiner! lacks focus…more concerned with what bothers him rather than the team play…

  363. Garret November 14, 2008 10:26 pm

    I really do appreciate all of the suggestions…but please do not post any more of them because I don’t want to waste the blog space more than I already did. There are already about 10 that I want to use from the ones posted, and I’ll pick one soon.

    I couldn’t think of a good analogy during the phone call and during the hours 10 hours after the phone call…the blog contributors thought of more than 20 that were far better than the best I could come up with! Thank you so much.

    To make this issue kind of UH-related, I set aside a significant portion of the stock in my company as a donation to UH. So, if the company does well, UH Athletics will benefit.

  364. Ralph November 14, 2008 10:27 pm

    anyone hear what the attendance is? less than 5K on tv

  365. wafan November 14, 2008 10:28 pm

    Sounds like the Buffanblu will beat the Crusaders this time around. Either team will represent the ILH very well at the state tournament.

  366. Garret November 14, 2008 10:28 pm

    How can the fans leave early? My family stays even when the team is getting blown out…we’d never think of leaving when the game is in doubt!

  367. wafan November 14, 2008 10:29 pm

    Come on ‘Bows!!!

  368. Kekoa November 14, 2008 10:30 pm

    UH goes down 75 to 70.

  369. expat November 14, 2008 10:31 pm

    Punahou first down. 1:48 to go. St Louis takes a time out. Te’o is in at running back. I think we can call this one.

    Good first year for Hao. Tough break tonight, but you can’t win them all (unless you are Cal Lee, in which case you can.)

    :55 seconds left and STL takes last time out. No “give up” on either side of the ball.

    Punahou actually going for it on 4th and short with less than a minute to go.

  370. wafan November 14, 2008 10:31 pm

    The ‘Bows did not listen to my plea.

  371. Garret November 14, 2008 10:31 pm

    Article about Long Beach Poly being the top seed as the playoffs are about to begin.

    On the strength of the Jackrabbits’ 29-13 victory over host Jordan Friday night, Coach Raul Lara’s program has now won 79 league games in a row and has 22 consecutive victories dating to September of last year.

    The most significant number they’ll take with them into their playoff opener though is one – as in the No. 1 seed in the 16-team bracket that will be unveiled Sunday morning at the Southern Section office in Los Alamitos.

  372. Kekoa November 14, 2008 10:31 pm

    Punahou gets a 1st round bye in the playoffs as they win it 41 to 28.

  373. expat November 14, 2008 10:33 pm


    I am just grateful the buffanblue squeaked by Damien this year 🙂

    Game over, 41-28.

  374. Ralph November 14, 2008 10:39 pm

    Thursday was the first day players could signed Letters of intent for BB…did we get any recruits, or is itbecause we don’t have seniors we don’t have any scholarships to offer…my alma mater K State signed 4 in men and 3 in women, UH zero in men and women…like in FB, coaches can’t wait for the spring signing period…

  375. Garret November 14, 2008 10:40 pm

    The blog software is too weird right now…good night everyone.

  376. wafan November 14, 2008 10:41 pm

    expat . . .

    Right. Squeaked by. Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha!

    Hey, somebody has to come out on the short end.

    Good luck to everyone at State!!! Play hard. Play clean. Play injury-free.

    Go ILH!!! (sorry d1)

  377. Kekoa November 14, 2008 10:42 pm

    Ralph ~ I guess you saw what I saw. Meanwhile Pauoa Boy made some spot on observations of lack of ball movement on offense. The sloppy passing, and sometimes making an extra pass when the shot should have been taken. They made more turnovers then the Liliha Bakery night shift.

    There’s a glimmer of hope in this squad tho…they need time to gel just like the fb team. They just need to take care of the ball more.

  378. al November 14, 2008 10:43 pm

    through different eyes………i thought balocka wanted to win so badly is why he was so vocal.

    give this team 8 games or so to find its groove. we don’t have the outside shooting of years past so we need to work our strengths which should be the inside game where i think we can outquick most teams.

    the turnovers killed us. the jc transfers will learn that at this level the game has kicked it up a notch and they must take care of the ball.

    our point guard play needs improvement. rather concerned with thompson’s injury as i felt that by the eighth game he would take command there.

    lots to improve. i like the talent that is there. we need more firepower. i am sure nash will sort it out.

    the new energizer bunny is smaller this year. love the way parghalava plays.

  379. al November 14, 2008 10:43 pm

    through different eyes………i thought balocka wanted to win so badly is why he was so vocal.

    give this team 8 games or so to find its groove. we don’t have the outside shooting of years past so we need to work our strengths which should be the inside game where i think we can outquick most teams.

    the turnovers killed us. the jc transfers will learn that at this level the game has kicked it up a notch and they must take care of the ball.

    our point guard play needs improvement. rather concerned with thompson’s injury as i felt that by the eighth game he would take command there.

    lots to improve. i like the talent that is there. we need more firepower. i am sure nash will sort it out.

    the new energizer bunny is smaller this year. love the way parghalava plays.

  380. Ralph November 14, 2008 10:44 pm

    not a goodnite for Bulla and D1….St Louis, UH bows, and UH wahines lose…0-3 on a wet friday night

  381. Ralph November 14, 2008 10:46 pm

    I now know why chawan cut and Kazz seats behind the basket, the rainbow dancers all stand along the wall in front of them…..

  382. wafan November 14, 2008 10:48 pm

    Okay. I give up waiting for my posts to post. This is really quite frustrating and makes it difficult to carry on a conversation.

    Why do the techies insist on destroying, or, at least, intefere with, the used to be smooth operation of the blog? It always amazes me when “intelligent” incompetence replaces “stupid” common sense.

    Sorry guys. Facts are facts. It is worse than it was before you broke it.

  383. Hoohiki November 14, 2008 10:50 pm

    People leave early during games because they don’t want to get stuck in the parking lot traffic….

    Re: #343: I don’t understand these virtual lives..why would a Japanese woman go to jail when she killed her virtual reality husband out of anger after he divorced her…?

  384. Cheyah! November 14, 2008 10:50 pm

    How come the teams uniform seemed to be 2 to 3 sizes bigger than the players? I saw many of them pulling their pants up or adjusting the jersey. Can’t really play with your uniform all over the place.

  385. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 10:52 pm

    Hawaii Basketball Game Notes…in my opinion.

    – This team is definitely athletic but they lack focus on defense…too many lapses letting guys drive to the hole with ease and giving up open threes.

    – Roderick Fleming has the “It” factor and needs the ball more. Offense should run through him but Coach Nash needs to find a better way to get him in a position so he can create. Getting caught too many times in traffic.

    – Balocka and Amis are both weak and need to learn how to bang! Plus Balocka needs to STFU and play the dayum game! We really need a banger down low but our post players are weak! Wonder if Ji Xiang can bang but I doubt it and he didn’t play either.

    – Lasha is a good shooter but should not be handling the ball. Had way too many turnovers on poor decisions, stupid passes, and not protecting the ball. He should be coming off screens and spotting up to be more effective.

    – Nitoto is okay but he needs to learn to distribute the ball…needs to penetrate and dish better. Too many times he drives to far into the lane and gets caught under the basket or too low in the paint in traffic. Regardless a point guard with 0 assists is terrible!

    – Too much standing around on offense, poor screens, not enough movement without the ball.

    – Defensively not enough talking going on…help defense is slow. Players need to communicate and move their feet, guards getting burned all night. Balocka and Amis need to learn how to block out down low, too much standing around and not fighting for position!

    Anyway, although the game was very sloppy it’s early in the season and I expect to see big improvements. This team has the potential to be very good if they can limit there mistakes. I think if they run and push the ball that is when they are best. Half-court offense should get better but I’d like to see the point create more shots for the others.

  386. Ralph November 14, 2008 10:53 pm

    Kekaula reports that Nitoto with zero assists…not expected from a point guard

  387. Postmanke November 14, 2008 10:54 pm

    How does our point guard not have any assist? I like this team. There biggest issue last year was interior rebounding. They seemed to solve that with a bigger front court personnel. Got out rebounded tonight but I’m sure this will improve immediately.

    Give credit to Rex Walters and the Dons. He did a great job at Fla Atlantic. His new look Dons look pretty scrappy.

    Where’s Ji Xiang?!?

  388. Postmanke November 14, 2008 10:57 pm

    spacing, spacing, spacing on offense.. I really hope the flex offense does not hold back these guys… Let them play with space.

  389. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 10:58 pm


    Time to Tap Out, catch you guys manyanaz…

    Coach Nash, I’m sure you’ll get our BBall boys in order…you have the talent and Roderick Flemings is a baller, so get him the ball more! Anyway, I see much potential so git-r’-done!

  390. jm2375 November 14, 2008 10:59 pm

    PB & Postmanke – I think BC referred to Ji Xiang as more than a project… 😐

  391. d1島 November 14, 2008 11:02 pm

    Congrats to the Puns. It took this Senior class six cracks at it but they got over the hump tonight. On to States. Good Luck.

    Talked to Bulla at the half.
    Painful to watch a succession of different Crusader receivers take their turn at catching the ball on the same play all night 🙄 👿

    Oh well….my tuition checks go to a different address now.


  392. lab rat November 14, 2008 11:04 pm

    I like Balocka. I think he was limited because he was in foul trouble. The better team won tonight. I like the way SF ran their offense. They subbed well early and used a lot of movement. They ended up with more gas in their tank at the end of the game.

  393. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 11:06 pm


    I don’t care for the Flex/Motion offense especially when you have athletic players like Nitoto and Fleming who are quick and can take it to the hole. Plus a decent shooter in Lasha and Amis who is quicker than most post players. In this offense they all seem to be bunched up and I agree they need space. Anyway, Coach Nash will fix things…but I hope he puts the ball in Flemings hands more and allows him to be more aggresive attacking the basket and scoring. I think Flemings is going to be unstoppable once things start clicking. He’s like a highlight waiting to happen and you can just feel his presence on the court!

  394. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 11:12 pm

    That dude Dior Lowry or whatever his name is, can ball! I could see him potentially playing in the NBA one day. Gotta nice stroke and some good post moves.

    Balocka is alright if he would just bang and play his game. He’s the biggest dude but at times he would stand around instead of fighting for position on rebounds. He could be a force.

    I actually like Amis and would like to see him work down low more with the ball. I like how he attacks the rim and is fearless, he goes up strong on offense but defense he seems weak.

  395. Pauoa Boy November 14, 2008 11:17 pm

    Ji Xiang is young and still learning the game. Isn’t he like 18 or 19??? He should watch some Yao Ming highlights and work on his game daily. Hopefully he can learn the nuances of the game quick and contribute but who knows. Anyway, he has time to develop and I wasn’t expecting much from him though I wanted to see him play tonight.

  396. al November 14, 2008 11:20 pm

    btw, a few years ago we tried to recruit blake wallace.

  397. Ralph November 14, 2008 11:42 pm

    who is blake wallace?

  398. chawan_cut November 14, 2008 11:48 pm

    i like to sit behind the basket so i can yell at the crappy refs. Tonight’s game was the longest regulation game I’ve ever been to. How many fouls do you need to call? If you suck, do it consitantly or don’t blow your whistle at all. They really affected the outcome of this game. The one blocking call on Flemmings was horrible. He got run over.
    we just have too many new guys that don’t know the offense yet. they’ll get it together and we’ll play a complete game.
    good to see all the other Tsaikos at the game too.

  399. Ralph November 15, 2008 12:01 am

    CC did you take any video or pix….I saw a video by you on the sugar bowl with the dancers

  400. Kekoa November 15, 2008 12:24 am

    Blake Wallace was the big Don that looked like he might have some oriental blood running thru his veins. Also had that deer in the headlights look about him. He scored 19 pts and put the game out of reach from the line.

  401. Kekoa November 15, 2008 12:29 am

    The team lost their poise near the end of the 1st half and then never got it together again in the 2nd half. That game should have been their’s from the beginning. They left the door open for the Dons to rob their house.

  402. al November 15, 2008 12:29 am

    what game were you watching ralph? in fact, i think it was 21 pts with the last two free throws.

  403. Ralph November 15, 2008 12:42 am

    I don’t pay much attention to leahy and artie

  404. Jason November 15, 2008 12:51 am

    My take on the game: I’m surprised we kept it that close. We really did not communicate at all during the game, on offense or defense. One time, Nitoto got smacked on a mid-court screen — geez, you gotta protect your point guard there, yell out “Screen!” I did like the balanced scoring we had, although we do need to establish ourselves better on offense. Not surprising that the flex-motion lacked motion — the players need to grow into that. Still, though, they can do a better job of spacing, setting up screens, and establishing low post position.

    They’ll get better, though. They just need to work together for an extended period of time. You can tell the talent is there. Lots of things to work on, but I think Coach Nash will get that done.

    * * *

    Congratulations, curveball!

  405. Ralph November 15, 2008 12:55 am

    blake wallace must have been the dude who shot 4 of 7 from 3 point range unimpeded by the bows defense…

  406. Jason November 15, 2008 12:56 am

    And yeah, Ji Xiang is not close to getting serious minutes. He’s a project. Good size, but still learning the game. Don’t expect to see him anytime soon.

    And yeah, any news on Hiram? That did not look good when he got hurt. I was thinking that he’d take the starting job by the time the WAC season starts.

    Wow, now that I sit next to the band, I can actually hear what the chants are — they aren’t all mumbled.

  407. Jason November 15, 2008 1:01 am

    I was very disappointed in the effort by our perimeter defenders in giving up those 3s. One time, a USF player had a wide-open shot because the UH defender who stepped up did not stick his hand in his face, but just held it out in front of him at the waist. He’s right in front of him, but doesn’t even bother to challenge him. I hope Coach Nash picked up on things like that, and puts in measures to correct that. I felt a lot of things could have been better if only the proper effort were put into it.

  408. Jason November 15, 2008 1:06 am

    But to end on a positive note before I go to bed: You can’t deny that there’s some serious talent here. Flemings showed some flashes, and I really like Brandon Adams’ athletic ability. Parghalava has a nice stroke, and Balocka adds a nice inside presence. Combine that with the abilities of our returning players, and I think we have a good team in development.

  409. Ralph November 15, 2008 1:20 am

    12% of Hawaii public school kids attempted suicide last year….. got to know what they’re doing and where they are as much as possible without being to restrictive…

  410. addahknowjoe November 15, 2008 1:33 am


    Will you call your grandson, Slider?

  411. Jay November 15, 2008 4:57 am

    Morning Tsaikos. Congrats Punahou.

  412. wafan November 15, 2008 6:29 am

    Good morning all!

    Long day today — no Warrior football.

    Still, the sun may break through the clouds and it will not rain.

    One of the local high schools lost last night in the state play-off, as did O’Dea. Maybe I should not cheer for any of my favorite teams — they end up losing.

  413. wafan November 15, 2008 6:32 am

    d1 . . .

    Just read my e-mail. Dang. I have other plans already for the day and cannot go up North. I hope he has a good game!

    Good luck to both Wildcats!

    “Keep your head in the game . . .”

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