UH lands Kapa‘a lineman

Sean Michael Shigematsu, an offensive tackle who was impressive at last week’s All-Poly Camp, said he has accepted a football scholarship from the Warriors.
Shigematsu is 6 feet 5 and 230 pounds.
“I always wanted to be a Warrior,” said Shigematsu, who also plays volleyball and basketball.
His father, Delroy Shigematsu, was a standout multi-sport athete for Kapa‘a in the late 1970s.

* * * * *

Running back Chizzy Dimude has been on the run since arriving in town this week. He’s enrolled in Summer Session II, and is participating in the offseason conditioning program and chizzyunsupervised workouts. He’s even taking a yoga class (which Princess Leila will profile in a video tomorrow).
Dimude took a couple of minutes to talk story with the Warrior Beat.
“I came in Sunday. I slept the whole way on the flight. It was fast. I started school the next day.”
From what he can tell ….
“It’s cool. I like it so far. I’m adjusting pretty fast. I can’t wait for the regular season to start.”
“My mom named me that. It’s short for Chizimuzo — ‘God showed me the way’ in Igbo.”
All for one …
“I came out on the (recruiting) visit witih Lametrius (Davis), Aaron (Brown) and Zach (Masch). We didn’t really have a host. It was the week of the Cincinnati game. They were busy with the game. We talked amongst ourselves.”
The Warriors squandered a big lead in losing to Cincinnati.
“Man, I thought we had it. Damn. I was disappointed. It was a good game.”
In hindsight …
“They couldn’t run the ball consistently toward the end of the game. I hope I can make a diffrence. I’m here to make a difference.”
Did you know …
“I like country music. Mom used to take us to school, and she always played country in the background. I couldn’t tell you the names, but I listened to it for a long time. I got used to it.”

* * * * *

Safety Aaron Brown also arrived in town this week. Brown, who is competing for a starting berth, already has mastered the shaka sign.



  1. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 12:06 am

    Happy Birthday to Warrior Daniel “the Ox” Johnson….
    Also Born on this Day:
    1946 – Bon Scott AC/DC
    1947 – O.J. Simpson
    1956 – Tom Hanks
    1957 – Kelly McGillis (Top Gun)
    1959 – Kevin Nash (Pro Wrestler and co-founder of the NWO)
    1964 – Courtney Love

  2. Ralph July 9, 2009 12:07 am

    top five again

  3. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 12:07 am

    Where did/is Shigematsu going to High School

  4. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 12:09 am

    Was Chizzy, Brown, and Davis at the NaKoa Banquet?

  5. rylen July 9, 2009 12:09 am


  6. rylen July 9, 2009 12:10 am

    im mean top 10 guess i shouldnt read 1st than post

  7. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 12:11 am

    Oops sorry about #3, didn’t see the title…

  8. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 12:11 am

    Oops sorry about #3, didn’t see the title…

  9. Ralph July 9, 2009 12:12 am

    and to think the Liz went to bed as Tsai announces a Kauai boy as a Warrior…is he like Hisatake, mostly Samoan, cuz he is kind of big for a Japanese boy unless his ancestors came from Mongolia. LOL. The Ainu people are tall but got to have some Russian in them from way back..

  10. Ralph July 9, 2009 12:13 am

    Bigwave you gotta read the article before posting…

  11. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 12:14 am

    Hope Sean can pack on another 50-70 pounds….
    I wonder if he played both ways for Kapaa…

  12. Ralph July 9, 2009 12:14 am

    What dialect is igbo?

  13. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 12:16 am

    I did read the article, that’s why I asked…
    I just didn’t see the title

  14. al July 9, 2009 12:18 am

    i heard many schools pursued shigematsu after that poly camp.

    ah, another recruit that none of the recruit media learned of as one in the warriors sights.

    i like his size.

  15. Ralph July 9, 2009 12:18 am

    we seem to recruit a lot of light weight players. 230 DT, 200 lb, 140 slot. an to think we don’t have enough money for extended training tables for the athletes. Wasn’t there an issue where the players were given one less meal a day with the training table to save money and the players had to fend for themselves out of pocket.

  16. al July 9, 2009 12:19 am

    chizzy “make you dizzy” dimude and aaron “knock you to the ground” brown welcome to hawaii.

  17. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 12:21 am

    Igbo is a dialect spoken in Nigeria.

  18. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 12:22 am

    The picture of Aaron Brown doesn’t do him justice.
    That guy is huge. He walked into the room and we’re all wondering if he was a linebacker.

  19. al July 9, 2009 12:22 am

    ralph….people do grow.

    purcell, alama-francis for example started off about 220 lbs and 195 lbs respectively. today, they are 285 plus lbs.

  20. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 12:22 am

    Chizzy reminds me of a bigger Michael Brewster.

  21. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 12:23 am

    Wes Nakama did a really good story on Shigematsu last week. It was about the All-Poly Camp.

  22. al July 9, 2009 12:24 am

    its the lighting and camera angle that makes him look svelte.

  23. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 12:24 am

    I remember the first time I saw his father. We were expecting a short Japanese guy. Instead, there was this big guy with a huge afro.

  24. Ralph July 9, 2009 12:25 am

    Nigeria, does he know anyone who won the lottery?

  25. al July 9, 2009 12:25 am

    has alex green checked in?
    and you did mention that masch is here didn’t you?

  26. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 12:25 am

    The photo was taken in the dance studio, where the players were having yoga class.

  27. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 12:26 am

    Ralph told a joke!!!!
    I knew the haircut changed him.

  28. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 12:27 am

    Masch was here for the first Summer Session. Not sure if he’s still here. Green is supposed to be here.

  29. al July 9, 2009 12:28 am

    well, that’s great news about the jc boys getting enrolled for summer and stuff. we’ll need everyone of them to contribute.

    and if they exceed their billing on the field we will be in fine shape this year. the defensive coaches have their work cutout for them this year. they really will have to earn their money.

  30. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 12:28 am

    Other notable Nigerians Tony Akpan and the Elimimians..
    Also Iolani/Cal RB Joe Igber 🙂

  31. Ralph July 9, 2009 12:30 am

    didn’t it take Purcell and Alema Francis about 3 years to get up to 285. Most of their playing came their junior and senior years and i think they both redshirted…or Alema Francis used his redshirt year on the basketball team…

  32. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 12:30 am

    Anyone notice that half our recruits so far played DII in the HHSAA
    – Pearl City
    – Moanalua (2)
    – Kaimuki
    – Kapaa
    – Campbell

    Just an observation and not a knock on anyone…

  33. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 12:32 am

    Al but some don’t..
    Kevin Jackson, Tua Mahaley, Brett Symonds 🙂

  34. al July 9, 2009 12:32 am

    chizzy is one fast dude, too. his work in the weight room was phenomenal as well. sounds like he is very grounded.

  35. Ralph July 9, 2009 12:32 am

    whatever happened to Akpan?

  36. Ralph July 9, 2009 12:35 am

    one way to fly under the radar, play DII.. Only Doris would have known about these players…Fetters and crew would have spent their time with the bigger schools…

  37. al July 9, 2009 12:35 am

    ralph….you know me. i am a stickler for names.

    its alama-francis.

    and yes it took them several years, but, who is counting. isn’t that normal for folks to grow over a period of time. wouldn’t it be more strange if they gained all that weight in one year?

  38. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 12:36 am

    Now, if UH can start landing those Waialua guys …

  39. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 12:37 am

    Alama-Francis is in town, too.
    Davone Bess and Ryan Mouton arrived yesterday.

  40. al July 9, 2009 12:37 am

    tua has gained 25 lbs.

  41. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 12:38 am

    I think some can gain it all in one year…..
    CC here, Tsaiko Gate there, then Poof!!!

  42. Ralph July 9, 2009 12:40 am

    but they have a short time frame to play at 285. the growing years they seat and learn but only contribute on the scout team or third team, second if they are lucky to play as a light weight.. How heavy was that DE from Georgia that ran pass Ah Soon and Steinhoff, maybe UH wants speed, leverage and technique over brut size and strength..

  43. al July 9, 2009 12:41 am

    hatchie would be a great get. imagine in several years an oline with hatchie, shigematsu, lefotu, and loyd. that’s huge, literally.

  44. al July 9, 2009 12:42 am

    seat = sit?

  45. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 12:42 am

    Tua actually gained 30 pounds over the last 5 years….
    Now he’s 6’3”, 220 lbs 🙂

  46. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 12:44 am

    Hatchie and Rowley (Waialua) are also DII guys…
    This should give inspiration to younger athletes who goes to schools that may not get the spot light on OC16

  47. Ralph July 9, 2009 12:45 am

    Colt mentioned that he, Davone, GM and a few others stayed here after the first summer session to keep on working out and that really helped them. Lots of our athletes left Hawaii for a 3 week break before reporting for early camp. I know they will put in some time at home but nothing like working out with the people who will be playing along side them come Fall…

  48. Ralph July 9, 2009 12:47 am

    no question seat=sit. I did that one time i submitted a question for the video and the Princess that a puzzled look while reading the question I posted…

  49. al July 9, 2009 12:49 am

    you know a guy like tua could actually latch on to an nfl team that employs a tight end. his having to go to the defense may have given him the chance to bulk up. if he can run a 4.7/40 and show he has good hands it just could happen for him.

    if i were he, i’d still run routes in workouts and keep his hands in shape.

  50. al July 9, 2009 12:50 am

    ralph,,,its a tsaikological thing. no worry.

  51. Ralph July 9, 2009 12:50 am

    maybe Tua should have feasted on green bananas, corned beef and lots of rice a few years ago and he would have changed his composition.

  52. al July 9, 2009 12:52 am

    tua is 6’3″?
    he was 6’5″ when we recruited him.
    actually the roster has him as 6’4″.

    hmmm. maybe, i am actually six feet.

  53. al July 9, 2009 12:53 am

    he could have. his best friend is pepa.

  54. Ralph July 9, 2009 12:54 am

    so what happened to Whitey and Duffer? I doubt you posting from the dark side, the mama san wouldn’t let you.

  55. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 12:54 am

    From time to time I hear folks complaining that we don’t recruit big Oline guys… I guess they forget we recruited:
    Adrian Thomas 6’6”
    Aaron Kia 6’5”
    Brett Leonard 6’5”
    Pepa Letuli 6’4”
    Austin Hansen 6’4”
    Dave Garness 6’4”
    Daniel Johnson 6’4”

  56. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 12:58 am

    Al, I guess Tua grew an inch since HS. He was listed as 6’3” in 2006.
    As far as 6’5”, I guess the HS scouts didn’t flatten his fro…
    I wonder how tall he would be if he went to an NFL Pro Day…
    It seems guys shrink an inch or so on that day at the Home Depot Center

  57. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 1:04 am

    Where’s the nocturnal Jason?

  58. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 1:04 am

    Where’s the nocturnal Jason?

  59. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 1:06 am

    Friday, July 10th, 6 to 9 pm
    THE SHACK WAIKIKI (In the Waikiki Trade Center)
    $40 in advance, $45 at the door.
    Heavy Pupus, Hosted Cocktails
    Auction to benefit Hawaii Meals on Wheels
    Win autographed memorabilia like game helmets and jerseys!

  60. Ralph July 9, 2009 1:11 am

    July 16 next Thursday, meet coaches Charlie and Dana, at Murphy’s from 5:30 to 9 p.m. There is no admission charge, food and beverage available for purchase..street to be blocked off.

  61. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 1:20 am

    I don’t mind players going home for a few weeks. Some guys haven’t been home in 11 months.

  62. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 1:47 am

    Did the system crash for a bit? I had a trouble logging on.

  63. BigWave96744 July 9, 2009 2:02 am

    With all the Castle guys filling the UH Roster, a little birdie told me that former Black Knights kicker Ethan Gonsalves has been working out and would like a shot as a walkon sometime soon.

    Speaking of Castle Knights, I ran into former Warrior Tony Pangkee the other day. Braddah looks in top shape and looks like he still could lay some Katooshes..

  64. Pride. July 9, 2009 2:46 am

    Great to see Delroy’s son trying to become a Warrior. Delroy was actually the starting offensive tackle at UNLV in 1979. He inherited that position from another local product from Waianae by the name of Hansel Kane. The Rebels also had Brian Weisbarth(Roosevelt) starting at DT, Sao Vaefaga(Farrington) starting at DE, and Eliu Elisara(Roosevelt) starting at inside backer. I believe that Sao was Vince Manuwai’s uncle.

    Hopefully Sean Michael is as good as his dad.

  65. letsgowarriors July 9, 2009 2:49 am

    how big is his dad? was he good at unlv?

  66. letsgowarriors July 9, 2009 2:51 am

    did micah hatchie participate in the all poly camp?

  67. chawan_cut July 9, 2009 4:41 am


  68. LizKauai [iMac] Unite and Conquer! July 9, 2009 5:55 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

    Yeah, annodah Kauai player!

    So, ST- I think I heard Colt refer to you as “shark!” on the Tuesday show. That brought back laugh/memories of the post you made a couple years ago…

    Is Alama-Francis going to be there tonight?

    Time to hi-ho!

  69. lava July 9, 2009 5:58 am

    “He’s going to do well. He’s a very well-mannered kid, very quite.”

    Editor was sleeping. lol

  70. Garret July 9, 2009 6:00 am

    Welcome to the Warriors Sean Michael Shigematsu!

  71. Garret July 9, 2009 6:02 am

    This news was already posted on a past blog, but just in case anybody missed it.

    Former University of Hawaii quarterback Colt Brennan and receiver Davone Bess will sign autographs at Pictures Plus in the Maui Marketplace from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. Saturday.

    The first 200 people to purchase tickets will receive a photo of Brennan with the Washington Redskins.

  72. Garret July 9, 2009 6:03 am

    KGMB feature on Colt.

    “I think for me it’s just to have a great preseason do a lot of great things and just keep the buzz going,” Colt Brennan said. “Keep the people interested and maybe one day someone’s like let’s give this kid a shot,”

  73. Garret July 9, 2009 6:04 am

    Article about Colt’s workout program during the offseason.

    For the next couple of weeks, Colt Brennan is keeping those pieces of paper very close to him. It’s a 5-day workout plan with quarterback-specific exercises.

    “Basically, the offseason is all about maintaining your strength and your conditioning and throwing the ball,” Brennan said. “You get enough practice during 2 a days, you want to show up in shape and ready to go.”

  74. Garret July 9, 2009 6:05 am

    Fantasy football site likes Colt’s chances to play this season.

    More intrigue in D.C. — Cult favorite Colt Brennan appears poised for a move up the depth chart, at least to second string. Look for Brennan to see regular season starts if his preseason goes as well as last year’s and Jason Campbell struggles to move the offense. … The Redskins are so down on Campbell that they briefly entertained the idea of signing Michael Vick.

  75. Garret July 9, 2009 6:06 am

    Pisa was mentioned in the article about the best LBs to play for St. Louis (including the Cardinals before they moved).

    Pisa Tinoisamoa: A six year starter for the Rams who lead the team in tackles for four of thos seasons.

  76. whitey July 9, 2009 6:07 am

    good morning tsaikos. dang, we were talking about size for the 2010 recruits, then boom, ST announces a huge buggah from kauee going play for the warriors. hooooooohaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

  77. Garret July 9, 2009 6:10 am

    Paper in Kamloops discussed the BC Lions and unfortunately mentions RGM’s dropped pass.

    After a brief, profanity-laced outburst directed at wide receiver Ryan Grice-Mullen for dropping a potentially game-winning, catchable football, I forgot all about the game.

  78. Garret July 9, 2009 6:11 am

    The Vancouver Sun has a feature on RGM’s QB in the CFL.

    B.C. receiver Ryan Grice-Mullen failed to adjust to a catchable bomb from Pierce with 15 seconds remaining that would have given the Lions a 31-28 win instead of a dismal 28-24 loss in Regina. Two plays earlier, Pierce stood in the pocket on third-and-20 and made his best throw of the game to Paris Jackson for 29 yards.

  79. Garret July 9, 2009 6:15 am

    Tombo’s blog made the list of the top 100 college football blogs. The list stayed away from blogs affiliated with newspapers or other media outlets, so ST’s blog wasn’t eligible to be recognized along with Tombo’s.

    Hawai’i Football Fan Blog: The fight might be on the college football field, but it appears that this Hawaiian blog might find the fight just about anywhere — even between cats and dogs. Have fun with the humor and with the facts, stats and opinions.

  80. Hitman 24 July 9, 2009 6:19 am

    Saw Alama-Francis at Ala Moana food court yesterday – a nice, humble guy.

    Remember Dana McLemore. I believe he was the first UH player to make All-WAC in 2 positions.

  81. Garret July 9, 2009 6:23 am


    I wouldn’t focus on the weight of the recruits, as college athletes commonly gain weight after entering the conditioning programs. The important thing is to look at the frame of the player–at 6’5″, Shigematsu should have an excellent frame to gain weight…and being 6’5″ already means that he has a good height for an OL even if he doesn’t grow any taller.

    6’5″, 230 pounds is actually quite reasonable for an OL recruit. It is rare that an OL plays right after high school, with a redshirt year quite common for the first year, so he’ll have time to increase his weight in a good manner (Cattle Calls are NOT the recommended technique!). I would expect a redshirt year no matter what his size because there has to be an adjustment to college competition after coming from Kapa’a.

    All of this of course assumes that he’s 6’5″, or maybe 6’4″. If you were talking about a 6’0″ player, that would be a completely different story…but all the recruits at the All-Poly Camp could be measured against each other so I figure he has to be at or close to his listed height.

  82. d1島 July 9, 2009 6:38 am

    Great Morning All!

    Welcome Sean Michael Shigematsu.

    Given the physical descriptions of the recruit and his Dad, is it possible that they have ties to Peru?

  83. letsgowarriors July 9, 2009 6:39 am

    13 verbals + at least 4 greyshirts from 09

    8 more left…assuming the 09 greyshirts dont count against prior year.

  84. Dan-O July 9, 2009 6:43 am

    I agree with Garret…..

    A kid coming in at 6’1″ or 6’2″ isnt going to be 6’5″ in a few years. However, the possibility of adding 20-30 pounds is likely.

  85. d1島 July 9, 2009 6:45 am


    It’s true that when you go back almost a decade, UH does have several OL who are 6-4+ but in comparison, the current Gator line-up shows 12 of 17 OL are in the 6-4+ category…. 🙄

  86. d1島 July 9, 2009 6:55 am

    …and pity poor Freshman Travis Frederick at Wisconsin who, at 6-3, is the midget of the 17 member OL group as the lone player listed under 6-4.
    In fact, 8 of the 17 are north of 6-5! 😯

  87. d1島 July 9, 2009 6:56 am

    Well, have a terrific day anyway. 😉


  88. djmitcho July 9, 2009 7:28 am

    Good Morning All! Hope everyone has a good day.

  89. A-House July 9, 2009 7:40 am


    Speaking of Wisconson – any word on how well the UH coach did on his recruiting visit to upper mid-land USA?

  90. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2009 8:05 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂

    Howzit A-House, mitcho, d1, Dan-O and lgw! Howz everybody doin’ this morning?

  91. Slugger July 9, 2009 8:06 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

    MsLiz must be jumpin’ for joy with another recruit from Kaua’i. Sean Michael, welcome, good name.

    Looking forward to seeing Chizzy, Aaron & the rest of the guys on the field.

    Off to check for the slugs… Esme & out…

    VOTE for the FLYIN’ HAWAIIAN. You only got till 10 am.

  92. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2009 8:10 am

    A 6′ 5″ Shigematsu? Byootiful! Time for Mac and crew to ramp up the Japan promotions some more with surnames like that! Welcome aboard, Sean!

    The only thing that could be better than waking up to more great recruiting news and a “talk story” with another UH player is to read the posts made by folks here. Good stuff y’all! There’s a lot one can learn just hangin’ out here.

  93. COPO July 9, 2009 8:16 am

    BYU offensive coordinator, Robert Anae ” I look for tall offensive linemen (6’4″ and up preferred) bigger body with long arms and athletic enough to pass protect.” Over the years the “Y” known for huge OL.

  94. COPO July 9, 2009 8:23 am

    I happen to be present at the All-Poly camp at Kapiolani park, did have opportunity to see Shigematsu in action, he wore green-silver uniform (Kapa’a high), may have been tallest lineman at camp, observed him in “inside drill” very good looking prospect, tall, moves well, competes, quick to hook ‘DEs. If he stays with his commitment to UH, the Warriors getting a potential steal!

  95. madeinhawaii July 9, 2009 8:25 am

    57 days for it to all come together…

    Welcome Chizzy! Can’t wait to see you tearing up the turf.

    Sean Michael Shigematsu … Thanks for choosing to stay home and playing for the home crowd!

  96. madeinhawaii July 9, 2009 8:26 am

    Hey BG….!

    You sure the guy at Schofield said manure that was 3-4 years old.. and not manure from 3 to 4-year olds… ?!?

  97. YpoWarrior July 9, 2009 8:26 am

    The main reason that Purcell & Alama-Francis got up to 280+ in their Sr. year was the change to the 3-4 D with Glanville. Prior to that, they were 4-3 DE’s & played at <260 lbs. Of course, Alama-Francis probably was closer to 230 lbs & gained a ton of weight during that one off-season (if I remember correctly).

  98. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 8:27 am

    Was it a few weeks ago, some readers were wondering when UH would start recruiting linemen …. ?

  99. labrat July 9, 2009 8:28 am

    Welcome Sean.

    Chizzy is goiing to make defenders dizzy. He reminds me of Gale Sayers.

    ST have you seen Alex Dunnachie?

  100. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2009 8:29 am

    Thanks for the inside look COPO! That’s the kind of stuff we like to hear about a recruit!

  101. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2009 8:31 am


    3 to 4 year old cattle mebbe?

  102. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2009 8:33 am

    Okay. I gotta say it. I’m still tryin’ to figure out d1’s “Peru” comment above. Anybody have a clue they could share?

  103. madeinhawaii July 9, 2009 8:39 am


    Nah.. I think he said some guy at the schofield stables told him they have tons of 3-4 year old horse manure.

  104. madeinhawaii July 9, 2009 8:46 am

    Hmm… Chizzy is a RB candidate that already knows how to block (at least on the JC level) so he might be all ready to go. Inoke… Leon.. and Chizzy. Three options, three different styles. I’m liking it.

  105. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2009 8:48 am


    Thanks for posting that. Now let’s see how much fun the Tsaiko’s can have with that statement.

  106. Kekoa July 9, 2009 8:50 am

    DPK ~ D-1 has a way of mystifying us with his deep thoughts, quips & quotes. His ‘Peru’ comment is just one of his latest clues. I believe it may have something to do with earthquakes. I’m concerned that he may have a prediction hidden in that statement.

  107. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2009 8:53 am

    I’m leaving the crib soon to undertake a somber and serious mission- Sweety sez I am to acquire a “Jack Warrior” antenna ball no matter what the cost. This may mean that I have to buy and consume a meal from Jack In the Box, but for the sake of my wife and the team, that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.

  108. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2009 8:58 am


    Maybe we can have a special blog activity called: “The Tsaiko Prophet: Decoding the d1 Codex.” Stay tuned…

    I’m going to start my research on the matter by googling “Peru and Shigematsu” while I eat my Jack In the Box food.

  109. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 8:59 am

    I think we need to adjust the calendar. Training camp is when it all starts. That’s in less than a month.

  110. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 9:00 am

    Let’s not forget Jordan Loeffler, who is grayshirting.

  111. Kekoa July 9, 2009 9:03 am

    Good Morning Island Tsaiko’s!

    A special shoutout to the Tsaiko’s who live in da mainland and around the planet!

    Sometimes we just don’t pay enuff attention to the loyal followers of the WB in other places, and how much they all must miss being here.

    I hope that some of the shenanigans we post about our crazy activities here at home keep you close to feeling like you are here in spirit!

    Until we see you back here on vacation, or on “marketing” trips – keep the Warrior spirit alive in your part of the world.


  112. labrat July 9, 2009 9:04 am

    DPK I don’t think the Jack head comes with breakfast. I will wait til lunch.

    I think Peru may have something to do with his last name.

  113. Ai-Yah July 9, 2009 9:05 am

    DPK – the way things appear, you must have a stockpile of those Warrior Antennae Balls

  114. Wotyobench? July 9, 2009 9:06 am

    Big Japanese emigrant population in South America, especially in Brazil and Peru (Peru’s former President Alberto Fujimori). Because of the Chinese Inclusion Act, many industrialists recruited Japanese to leave the homeland (Nikkei’s) and work in North and South America in the early 20th century.

  115. J-Dog July 9, 2009 9:07 am


    don’t forget about Jayson Rego

  116. labrat July 9, 2009 9:09 am

    Nikkei Peruujin

  117. Wotyobench? July 9, 2009 9:12 am

    Ooops…I meant to write Chinese “Exclusion” Act, and not “Inclusion” hence the need to get more Japanese workers.

  118. madeinhawaii July 9, 2009 9:18 am

    AND Rego!

    Thanks J-Dog.

  119. Chuy "Mits" Yamasanchez July 9, 2009 9:20 am

    More knowledge about Japanese in Peru…


  120. Kekoa July 9, 2009 9:21 am

    DPK ~ I believe Wotyobench is on to sum ting!

    btw…now I gotta go auto shop to buy one antenna kit for my ka’awela!

  121. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 9:22 am

    I think the running backs must work out in the morning.
    The only one I’ve seen in the afternoon is Wright-Jackson.

  122. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 9:31 am

    We’ll tweet and blog from tonight’s dinner.
    Anything you guys want me to ask Davone Bess or Ryan Mouton?

  123. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 9:32 am

    Or would it be funny if I could get Davone to tweet?

  124. madeinhawaii July 9, 2009 9:39 am


    I guess that means you’re not at Ching/Cooke Field in the morning, eh?

  125. madeinhawaii July 9, 2009 9:47 am

    Hmmm… I guess everybody skidaddled down to Jack-in-the-Box to get their Warrior Jack antenna balls before they ran out.

    Remember.. gotta order a “large” combo.

  126. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc July 9, 2009 9:51 am

    RE: Murphy’s Meet The Coaches party next Thursday. The new Men’s Volleyball and Women’s Basketball coaches are coming. What other UH coaches are also going to be there?

    Has a schedule/location been set yet for the post-game lunches and dinners during the football season?

    It will be five weeks between the first and second home games this fall although only three games will be played during that time – September 12, 19 & 30.. Have any arrangements been made yet for Away-Gates at various locations?

    Unfortunately, the September 30 game is on a Wednesday five time zones away so I assume that it will be very difficult for a lot of people to leave work at 2 pm. Perhaps that should be one of the Murphy’s games. Drop by for a late lunch and go back to work around 5 pm.

    With respect to the Central Arkansas game which is on a Friday at 7 pm, that’s another one to shift worktime startnstops around – assuming that we all still have jobs.


    Don’t forget that the Second Annual Family Promise Summer Barbecue is this Sunday, July 12, from 5 to 7 pm at Nu`uanu Congregational Church on the Pali Highway just beyond the first stoplight after the Wyllie Street Overpass.

    Dinner will be served at 6 pm inside the gym which is located on the lower part of the church property close to Nu`uanu Stream while the grill will be set up just outside the side door. Playing basketball is a great way to work up an appetite if needed.
    DrDoc & I will be preparing my award-winning – no fooling – barbecue chicken – grilled right on the spot while the rest of the folks who want to attend are asked to contribute pupu, salads, side dishes for the chicken, and desserts. Bring along enough food for the number of people in your party plus six more.

    Currently, we expect about a dozen church members including a couple of children plus four sets of parents, four children under the age of two, and two youngsters ages 8 & 10 in the Family Promise program.

    Family Promise is a ecumenical initiative – Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, – to help homeless families find permanent housing along with providing access to a variety of services.such as medical/dental care, education & training, transportation, childcare for employed parents, etc.

    To make sure that there’s enough chicken, please e-mail me if you are planning to attend – swood at hokudotcom. I can also provide you with the FP administrative office contact information.


    If eating is not your thing but drinking is, be sure to save your HI-5 cans & bottles and turn them in at RECYLING FOR CHANGE booth at the Kailua Relay For Life on Friday evening, July 31. RFC is providing recycling services for the event and will also be collecting bottles & cans from the larger community as well with the proceeds split between the two organizations.

    RFC will also be collecting HI-5 containers at all home T-Gates in the cabana area so you can also bring them there throughout the fall.

    Proceeds will be given to Alan Inaba’s cross-country program at Dole Middle School, Doris Sullivan’s PIAA organization, and Koa Anuenue’s athletic scholarship program on a rotating basis. The seventh home game proceeds will be given to the organization’s whose name is drawn by one of the Tsai-ko regulars.


    I’ve set up a file containing yesterday’s suggestions about computers and will ask for updates about 15 months from now. Hopefully, prices will be reduced by then.

    I need a top-of-the-line Mac commercial laptop capable of of doing major multi-media tasks along with the standard office apps. When we closed down our media production company in late 2005, I didn’t really consider that I still needed the tools for the next two career shifts. Also by then I expect to be back in (real) school so maybe student discounts will still be available.

    Then too things have changed so rapidly from a technological perspective that I’ll need to take some non-credit media workshops – will need to put aside money for training as well. .

    Off to work – stay healthy & safe.

  127. Ralph July 9, 2009 9:59 am

    thanks copo for the poly observation….I hope chizzy comes close to running like Sayers…I watched Sayers when he started for the Kansas freshmen team, freshmen weren’t allowed then to compete at the varsity level, and he had speed and moves that made the defense look silly.

  128. Slugger July 9, 2009 10:05 am

    Could someone get a Warrior antenna ball from Jack in da Pahu for MsLizK, please. I could only get one for djmitcho.

  129. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 10:14 am

    Dean Wilson is 3-under after 7 in the John Deere Classic at the TPC Deere Run in Silvis, Ill, and T/13 in the first round.
    Wilson got off to a great start with birdies on the 2nd and 3rd holes than sank a 7-footer on the 6th.
    Wilson rolled a 11-foot birdie on the par 5 #2 and nearly aced the par 3 #3 for a 4″ birdie tap-in.

    If Dean can scramble and avoid eratic play which has plaqued him on the tour– he has an opportunity to remain in the mix.

    Wilson is attempting to gain an invite to the British Open at Turnberry, Scotland if he finishes in the top 5.
    Officials at the Deere are flying qualified players on a chartered flight, direct to Turnberry after the final round of play.

  130. hoho July 9, 2009 10:19 am

    Hoho wants to give a shout out to the UH womens cheerleading team. Come 4-5 years from now we’ll need all the cheer we can get.

  131. el guapo July 9, 2009 10:19 am

    The story I heard when Delroy Shigematsu came down with UNLV in 1981 was that he was adopted by a Japanese family. But should check with the Kapa’a peeps to confirm (since that story came from Lihue peeps).

  132. letsgowarriors July 9, 2009 10:27 am

    someone on wsn is sayin that delroy is 1/2 african american 1/2 hawaiian and has zero japanese. so the adoption story might be true.

  133. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 10:28 am

    The 2010 recruiting class maybe a seminole moment for Hawaii’s summer camp if these early commits prove worthy by their 3rd year or earlier. It’s a gamble for sure, but the throw-down is made through the prism of MAC n staff.
    Assuming redshirt status in their first year–a standard for good recruits is to contribute in their rs/frosh year and be
    in-the-mix to start by their second year.

    Its an adacious strategy and if our coaches are on the mark with their intuitive evaluation it will be a montrous score for warrior future recruiting fortunes….MAC is showing creativity
    and initiative—gotta luv it!

  134. Slugger July 9, 2009 10:31 am

    Scoops on da Jack’s Warrior head:

    Only one to a customer.
    You can buy it for $1.49, but you get it free with a large combo meal.
    They already sold a case at Jack’s on McCully.
    So, don’t wait for lun-cha-wah.

    Anyone have a friend/family who can go buy one for MsLiz, please?

  135. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 10:32 am

    the coconut is mostly deadly accurate esp when it originates in a sleepy former plantation town like kapaa.

  136. Waipio Warrior July 9, 2009 10:40 am

    Anyone know Doris Sullivans website for recruits?

  137. Dennis Halloran July 9, 2009 10:43 am

    Jason Wheildon and Colt Brennan are both mentioned in an article in the OCRegister.com as among the best Orange County All Star HS players ever.
    We start Football here in the OC Friday nite with the 50th All Star game. I remember going to the first one.

  138. letsgowarriors July 9, 2009 10:44 am


    if you want to see what offers/verbals she has noted, click on the “news” tab and scroll down.

  139. Waipio Warrior July 9, 2009 10:45 am

    Thank you very much. Now back to lurking.. MUWAHAAA

  140. Mini Buffalo Ranch Chicken Sandwich July 9, 2009 10:46 am

    Jacks at Ward out of Warrior Jacks.

  141. Mini Buffalo Ranch Chicken Sandwich July 9, 2009 10:47 am

    eh no hoarding those warrior jacks all you suckas out there.

  142. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 11:01 am

    Every year, football referee George Gusman meets with the media, going over new rules, etc. He even puts on a video presentation.
    I haven’t asked him yet, but would there be interest in George putting on a presentation for our readers? Lemme know, and if there is, we can try to set something up.

  143. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 11:05 am

    The British Open @ Alisa Course, Ayrshire, Scotland,
    7204 y, Par 70, July 16-19.

    The Ailsa course at Turnberry is a an Open classic and was rebuilt and resurfaced around a WWII airfield which remains as a reminder of a tragic era, long past but not forgotten.
    The runways still exist and serve as a monument of its history that transformed the Ailsa links into one of the best in Britian.
    Long after the WWII era passed, the legend of Turnberry Point reappeared, as the rebuilding of a bunker on the second hole two years ago marked the discovery of a bomb deep below the surface.
    A Memorial to the Great War and its fallen is perched above the 12th hole.

    The clubhouse served as a hospital for the wounded during the campaign. Now, it will cost you $800 per night IF you are a PGA player. LOL.

    The #4 to #11 holes run along Turnberry’s rugged west coast….here is a brief description:
    “The first three holes suitably introduce the golfer to the test that’s to come, but it is standing on the fourth tee, 165 yards from a flagstick swaying violently in the wind atop a bluff, that the feeling of true seaside golf begins to take hold. Playing to one of the smallest greens on the course, the iron shot up the hill must be struck with authority. Irons played away from the falloff to the ocean left will often find the hillock flanking the green’s right edge, from where par is a tall order”.

  144. madeinhawaii July 9, 2009 11:09 am

    Does the Athletic Dept get something for every Warrior Jack sold?

  145. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 11:16 am

    Wilson 5-under, T for 3rd!

    Dean-o sank a 26-foot birdie on the 8th and follwed w a 11- foot birdie on the par 5 10th to go 5-under in the John Deere Classic, one back of the clubhouse leader and Tied for 3rd.
    Wilson has 5 birdies and no bogeys, he is hitting close to 90% off the tee and is on the green over 80% in regulation.
    Wilson has brought his putting game too, averaging over 32′ in hole proximity, yet drillin the 5 birds!
    Go dean-O!

  146. bb July 9, 2009 11:21 am

    shane in….YAY

  147. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 11:24 am

    Dean Wilson ties for lead at John Deere Classic–birdies Par 3 w 19′ putt…..dean-O busts out with a wide smile on 12th. 6-under after 12!
    luv it!

  148. Derek July 9, 2009 11:25 am

    I’m a little skeptical about all these commitments so far. Most if not all of them are either one or two star players. I would think that we want more three stars and a couple four star players in the recruiting class. Not to say that these players will be good, but you have to say that based upon the Division IA caliber competition we want to upgrade the recruiting process. One of things that will portend how we will do, is how the 2009 class will do, and to some extent the 2008 class. Guys like Jevonte Taylor, Blount, etc in 08 and Brown, Masch, Leonard, Bradley, Dimude, etc in 09 and other freshman break into the depth chart will determine who well the evaluating process is doing. We will have to see in time. Good luck!

  149. PowderPuff July 9, 2009 11:35 am

    Congratulations to Shane!!! And thanks for providing the link (I think it was Stretch) the other day — I voted many times into the wee hours.

  150. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 11:39 am

    #148 has a valid point but as I mentioned at #133 MAC is takin a different tact to gain an advantage over an everpresent array of BCS and top mid-major recruiting poachers.
    I suspect, the mailand and local blue-chippers will come later…it’s obvious that MAC is reaping his present crop from his recently installed summer camp field….if he hits–he has a bonaza and a great future to restock–if not, he floops….it’s a gamble, that simple.

    Moreover, as #148 judiciousily warns, unheralded early signators are no cause for premature celebration….yet, still, as I have said, MAC is being creative and takin bold initiatives.

  151. vballfan1 July 9, 2009 11:40 am


    This was just annouced by the UH site. I wonder if the players will be there as well.

    Stephen is Jonas Umlauft in school right now?

  152. Richie July 9, 2009 11:40 am

    Good point, Derek. I can see maybe taking a chance or two on a guy like Sean Shigematsu who is 6’5″ and sounds like he has potential, but I agree that it sounds like we are going after a lot of “potential” players and not many proven players.

    The only player that I see so far in recent weeks that will make an immediate impact for UH is Kaniela Tuipulotu, an NFL talent, starting DT from Univ. of Arizona, who played in the Pac-10 as a true freshman. Also, while all of these scholarship offers are readily being made, Jacob Barit, a former 6’3″ and 235 lb. first-team all-state middle linebacker, from St. Louis who is transferring from Arizona Western J.C. is having to walk-on and pay his own way. Now here is a local kid with talent who really wants to be a Warrior and the staff is making him jump through hoops. Go figure.

  153. letsgowarriors July 9, 2009 11:47 am

    no recruit is a “proven” player.

    jacob barit is a JC LB w/ 2 years of eligibility. mack probably couldnt offer him bc he used up all his 2009 scholies, i mean look at how much guys are greyshirting. also, we rarely recruit JC LBs, coaches didnt even offer that guy akoni lasconia.

  154. Pride. July 9, 2009 11:49 am

    Shigematsu’s are Hawaiian, just like the Hallums’. Just add a little bit Japanese to the Shigematsu clan.

  155. djmitcho July 9, 2009 11:50 am

    Ok, its getting close to that time of the year. Anyone interested in playing fantasy football? Some of those who played last year should be getting emails with invites including the draft time. I didn’t reinvite those I haven’t seen on the blog in a while. We can take up to 12 players, and maybe even 14 if there is a need to. If you wanna play email me. djmitcho at yahoo dot com. If you have any questions feel free to ask.

  156. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 11:56 am

    Penalty shot on the 14th drops wilson, 5-under and one back of lead. Off-the-tee into a hazard resulted in a bogey on the par 4 #14.

  157. Rob25 July 9, 2009 11:59 am

    Okay…guess I better go get my Warrior Jack antenna ball…before they run out!

  158. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 12:02 pm

    Carolyn Bivens outed as LPGA Commissioner.
    Reports have Bivens negotiating for a buy-out.

    Multiple sources tell GolfDigest.com that Carolyn Bivens’ four-year tumultuous tenure as LPGA commissioner will end next week. “She’s gone. It’s just a question of whether it’s a firing or a resignation,” one veteran player says…..Bivens lost the Hawaii tour and that was the straw that broke the camels back.

  159. Pride. July 9, 2009 12:07 pm

    Derek, I really wouldn’t put too much stock right now in the star-system. I think that the Hawaii coaches are professionals who are quite proficient at what they do. Most of the commitments that we have secured are under the radar guys who are not well known by the recruiting publications. Most of the youngsters from Hawaii do not have the luxury of attending camps like they do on the continental U.S. so as a result go unnoticed. If you look at the history of some of Hawaii’s greatest players, they were those under the radar types. We will do quite well with the players that Mac and company are bringing in. Your closing percentage on those 3 and 4 star athletes that are also being recruited by the BCS schools are not very high. So the Hawaii coaches in my opinion are doing it the right way. Jj never offered those types of athletes scholarships. At least Mac is making offers to them early and hoping that one or two of them may fall in his lap. With Jj’s way, no one ever fell in his lap because he never made the offer. But the majority of athletes that Hawaii gets will be the one and two star athletes who work hard, are coachable, and play with an attitude. Hawaii may secure smaller dogs, but those dogs will have bigger and more vicious bites. They will play like a pack of wild dogs. Ruff, ruff, ruff, ruff, grrrrrrrr, ruff, ruff, ruff, ruff.

  160. A-House July 9, 2009 12:16 pm


    Got your antenna ball – see Midori7 at tonight’s dinner!!

  161. BG July 9, 2009 12:19 pm


    Howzit Derek! Got your point and it’s certainly reasonable. However, got to remember that these are juniors (and below in hs) which means that the recruiting services probably don’t have any information on them yet…doubly so for the kids in Hawaii. Hence the one star rating. One star does not necessarily mean that’s the skill level, just that there’s no info.

  162. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2009 12:22 pm

    Rrrrrruffff Grrrrrrr Ruff Ruff!

    Oops! Sorry, I digress, Pride has a way of gettin’ folks fired up.

  163. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 12:22 pm

    No way anyone can dose these early signees with saccharin anymore than anyone can forecast doom because they are not star-stamped….characterizing the coaches as professionals and presumming infallability thereby is naive….it depends on which coach is pushin, even then, the proof is in the puddin….and reward is not redeemable until the athlete proves it on the field, not by supporters in cyber space.

    Again #148 makes a cogent caveat and posts a legit concern.

  164. labrat July 9, 2009 12:22 pm

    When Pride talk I listen. And they want to be Warriors.

    My Jack Head bent. Made in China. I wonder if it was assembled by someone wearing diapers.

  165. Dirty Commish July 9, 2009 12:23 pm

    Stephen Tsai:
    July 9th, 2009 at 1:47 am

    Did the system crash for a bit? I had a trouble logging on.

    Those pesky North Koreans were at it again. Keep it up, Kimmie-boy. We have 12 year olds in this country that could hack your entire network.

    Yoga is no joke, man. Takes lots of isometric strength to do the positions really well. Herschel Walker used to do ballet because it was great for conditioning and balance. I draw that line there, but I’m not about to tell him that to his face.

    Got my Warrior Jack Ball!!! Woooo hooooo! I am a happy Commish AND I didn’t get booted from my job by all the players under my domain. Yay!

  166. sjmacro July 9, 2009 12:26 pm

    Rob25: JBox at King and Piikoi should have antenna balls left. DPK and myki left some as of 10:30. 🙂 Remember you can get an extra one for $1.49 for every large meal you purchase. So if you have the whole office buy in you could wipe out the supply…..sj

  167. madeinhawaii July 9, 2009 12:26 pm

    Chances are by the end of this year, most of these early recruits that UH have offered will all be 3-stars and up. But, that will mean little if they don’t get the proper training and coaching to deal with the next level.

  168. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 12:28 pm

    #167. Bingo!

  169. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2009 12:33 pm

    Not sure what you mean, but I’ll assume it’s a good thing. 😉

    So I get down to Jack’s place and am bravely finishin’ my large combo when sittin’ down at the table next to me are sjmacro and myki, with their Warrior Jacks! 😆 We had brunch together and each of us bought an extra Warrior Jack for some of our beloved mainland Tsaikos.

    FloridaTed, please send me an email with your mailing address, your Warrior Jack is waiting.

    BTW- the Lil Warrior Jacks are pretty neat lookin’. Very well made, complete with a suction cup and bendable stand.

  170. labrat July 9, 2009 12:34 pm

    I remember Wagner talking about a highly recruited player who never progressed while he was here and compared him with another player who played at another school who ended up being drafted in the top 3 rounds (if I remember correctly). I have always liked the players who worked hard to be the best that they could.

  171. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 12:36 pm

    wison with consecutive bogeys on the 14th and 15th holes, birdies the 16th to remain at 5-under, 2 strokes back and T/6….dean is currently playing the par 5 17th and hit 269 y to the middle of the fw.
    wilson now has 7 birds and 2 bogeys on the round.

  172. Jack Flash July 9, 2009 12:37 pm

    I don’t think characterizing the coaches as pros presumes infallability. Lots of pros fail. But presuming the coaches know what they are doing would be a safe bet in my book.

  173. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2009 12:48 pm

    Suffice to say that Mac is playing the recruitment game the best way he can at this point. Offering underclassmen is still an emerging trend and UH needs to follow the rest of the country in this regard. He’s also gone after the so called “big stars” and many haven’t reciprocated at this point, so he’s hedging his bets, which is a prudent thing to do.

    I totally agree with Pride’s assessment above. He’s played the game as a UH standout and knows the local recruitment scene as well as anybody. And, like anybody in the know, he only shares a fraction of what he really knows.

  174. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 12:57 pm

    wilson birdies 17th to go 6-under, T/2.
    Dean Wilson cameback after 2 consecutive bogeys with two straight birdies.
    Wison is fighting the fairways and is averaging below average at 269 y with his drives off the T, but has played brilliantly around the green and is putting at an incredible 1.33 per hole….dean has dialed-in on his rolls with his trade-mark croach.

  175. d1島 July 9, 2009 1:03 pm

    Scored one Warrior Jack ball! 🙂

    Lil’ help….

    Este articulo no es un juguete

    Arme su Jack Bola de Antena introduciendo cuidadosamente la base de resorte en el agujero hasta el fondo de la cabeza de Jack con un ligero movimiento.

    Para ser usado solo por adultos.

    Hecho en China.

  176. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2009 1:04 pm

    Congrats to Shane Victorino for making it into the All-Star game! Way to go, Shane, Imua! Maui no ka oi!

  177. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2009 1:05 pm

    The cryptic one has returned…

  178. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 1:06 pm

    well, when you state that coaches are professionals and “quiet proficient at what they do (in recruiting selection)” and that premise leads to a further conclusion that “we (Hawaii) will do well (with these recruits)”, that implies a subliminal suggestion of infallibility…..

  179. d1島 July 9, 2009 1:06 pm

    It looks like the same maker as my ‘Niner and Raider Jack balls.

    Wonder why they left off the eye-black though?

    The suction cup stand is a nice touch for those who don’t have antennae on their vehicles.

  180. d1島 July 9, 2009 1:07 pm



    As it turns out, evidently, the Peruvian-Japonese connection can go the way of the Celestine Prophecy….

  181. Jack Flash July 9, 2009 1:07 pm

    Now i actually have a reason to watch the mlb all star game.

  182. labrat July 9, 2009 1:08 pm

    d1 look at the other side. and remember for adults only.

  183. d1島 July 9, 2009 1:08 pm

    Way to go! Shane Victorino!

  184. labrat July 9, 2009 1:10 pm

    My suction cup bent. It doesn’t suck. Or should I say it sucks. The head is top heavy and keeps falling over.

  185. d1島 July 9, 2009 1:10 pm



    ….and my Warrior Jack thanks you as I wasthiscloseto jamming that wire up “you-know-what” 😈

  186. d1島 July 9, 2009 1:11 pm


    Sounds like a job for “Crazy Glue”! 😉

  187. Rob25 July 9, 2009 1:12 pm

    Yahoo…I scored four Warrior Jack balls during lunch. Now I only need to get at least one more and then can start getting some for those in need.

    Hmmm, wonder if these will end up on eBay or craigslist!

  188. Jack Flash July 9, 2009 1:14 pm

    wf2- #178 = psycho-babble. lol! jez joking. Pride (and the coaches) know much more than i do is all i’m saying. Are you, or were you once a football coach? Or maybe a philosophy or psych professor?? Inquiring minds want to know…

  189. Rob25 July 9, 2009 1:17 pm

    So do you think that Colt will sign my Warrior Jack helmet tonight?

  190. Jack Flash July 9, 2009 1:19 pm

    Rob25- LOL!!! That would be hilarious if everyone brought those little helmets for Colt, Davonne and others to sign!

  191. d1島 July 9, 2009 1:21 pm


    Why stop there? 7 more and you can have a full starting unit!

  192. d1島 July 9, 2009 1:22 pm

    Jack Flash,

    Maybe so….at Florida State!
    He seems to keep having those “Seminole” moments 😆

  193. d1島 July 9, 2009 1:22 pm


  194. Rob25 July 9, 2009 1:23 pm

    Or I could just go for a whole team…what is the NCAA limit on playing rosters during the season? 👿

    Okay and I am just kidding about having him sign my Warrior Jack helmet…I have my Sugar Bowl mini helmet, my media guide and my Colt for Heisman brochure ready just in case he’s willing to sign something!

  195. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 1:28 pm

    Dean Wilson is in the clubhouse at 6-under, one back, T/3, after round 1.
    Not bad.

    You got to like the way Wilson cat-bounced w 2 birds on the 16th and 17th after dropping 2 consecutive bogeys earlier.
    Wilson does not strike big off the tee and is not ranked in the top pga-100 for driving distance @ 269, but his skill is chippin around the green and the use of his flat iron. He can roll the ball and drain ’em but needs more consistency in his accuracy off the Tee and to play steady.
    The John Deere Classic is no backdoor tournament either as 4 of the top fedex players are in the field including #2 Kenny Perry and US Open Champ, Lucas Glover, to name a few.
    The top 5 finishers, get an auto-invite (if not otherwise invited) to the Brit Open next week at Turnberry and a ride on a charted flight to Glasgow, Scotland.

  196. PowderPuff July 9, 2009 1:39 pm

    Rob25, got some good Sharpies? Want me to bring some from the office? A great autograph with a terrible pen is absolutely unacceptable.

  197. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 1:41 pm

    #192. imitation is the best form of flattery not the butt of a joke….however, if it has increased your vocabulary by one word, it has been well worth the effort….btw, what does ‘post hoc ergo propter hoc’ mean to u?

  198. Jack Flash July 9, 2009 2:03 pm

    #197- to me it means ‘sh!t happens.’

  199. lava July 9, 2009 2:03 pm

    I agree that high school recruits don’t really merit the description of a “proven” player, but at the same time, Manley is as proven as any local kid, we offered him, and he hasn’t accepted. I’m not knocking him, but just pointing out that the program and the recruiting effort can not afford to stand still while the “proven” players try and collect plane tickets to trip next fall and winter.

    I applaud guys who look at themselves as Warriors and know this is where they want to be. It should be an easy choice just looking in the mirror, looking at family at meal time, looking at friends at the beach, looking at the success of the program, looking at the integrity of the coaches, looking at the success former players have had getting into camps at the next level.

    Can we afford to wait on guys who haven’t yet figured out what it means to to play football for the home team?

  200. Jack Flash July 9, 2009 2:04 pm

    lava- well said!

  201. Jack Flash July 9, 2009 2:06 pm

    wf2- thx for the updates.
    Got my fingers crossed for Dean Wilson to score the charter flight to Glasgow!

  202. Jack Flash July 9, 2009 2:09 pm

    actually, i should’ve said ‘sh!t happens, then other sh!t happens.’

  203. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2009 2:18 pm

    Then soon enough you’ve got 3 year old manure pilin’ up, just like at Schofield. 😆

    Okay that din’t have a lot to do with the axis of thought here, but it gave me a chance to use the horsie poop in one last post before that earlier post by mih is “put out to pasture.”

  204. Pride. July 9, 2009 2:18 pm

    warriorfanny2. Man you are a piece of work!

  205. kama krab July 9, 2009 2:25 pm

    Howzit Everybody,


    I gotta agree with you. For the most part, these “proven” players that we have been discussing have had scholarship offers on the table for over a year now and none of them have committed. I don’t see anything wrong with the coaches saying, it’s time to move on. I like the prospects that the coaches are picking up because of the fact that they have a lot of upside and for me, I would rather have a player on my team that has upside rather than a player who has peaked. I think the strategy the coaches are using is a very analytical and systematic. They are watching a lot of film on these recruits and breaking down there every move. I feel that we are picking up some really good recruits and I just hope the bigger recruits figure out that if they want to come to Hawaii they need to make up their minds quickly before there are no more scholarships to offer.

  206. Slugger July 9, 2009 2:25 pm

    You guys still talking about horse poo? BG, I’m in.

    Yay! the Flyin’ Hawaiian got voted in to the All Star Game roster! I’m happy now.

    Nice people at Pictures Plus ~ got a couple of free photos of Colt for tonight.

    Off to pick up Jase & MsLiz… Esme & whoosh….

  207. Jason July 9, 2009 2:28 pm

    Every year, football referee George Gusman meets with the media, going over new rules, etc. He even puts on a video presentation.
    I haven’t asked him yet, but would there be interest in George putting on a presentation for our readers? Lemme know, and if there is, we can try to set something up.

    You promised me a couple years ago that you were going to take me to that. Don’t think I forgot … 😛

  208. Jack Flash July 9, 2009 2:32 pm

    Or maybe its ‘sh!t happened. But other sh!t happened to causing sh!t to happen.’

  209. Jason July 9, 2009 2:32 pm

    Post hoc, ergo propter hoc … hehe, I’m a West Wing fan. 😛


  210. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 2:32 pm

    I don’t believe that Grice-Mullins, Greg Salas or Malcolm Lane had any stars when they were recruited.

  211. Garret July 9, 2009 2:35 pm

    Speaking of RGM, I like how he didn’t make excuses for his drop in his season opener…not even mentioning that he had sat out of practices almost all preseason because of his hamstring injury.

    Grice-Mullen spent most of the contest in a cat-and-mouse game with various Riders defensive backs and when he needed to go deep, he took off. Buck Pierce’s throw found Grice-Mullen alone behind coverage, but he adjusted to the ball a split-second too late.

    Game over. Unless, of course, you have two days to think about what happened.

    “Of course I’m still mad about not making that play, because it’s one I make over and over,” the receiver said. “But that’s what Saturdays are for. I have Saturday to stay home, yell, slam things around. But as soon as Monday practice comes around, it’s totally out of my system.”

    “Clearly there’s no excuses, especially in the last seconds of the game. [The ball] kept drifting and I didn’t adjust until the last second,” he said.

    But four days later, Grice-Mullen was still willing to talk about what he had learned.

    “I’m a man about it,” he said. “Guys who don’t trust their skills make excuses. That was a great ball by Buck. I just didn’t finish.”

  212. Jack Flash July 9, 2009 2:36 pm

    apologies to the blog readers for inappropriate blogging. i think the heat is getting to me!

  213. Garret July 9, 2009 2:36 pm

    Is RGM’s coaching staff going to lose faith in him? Nope, in fact they are *adding* to his roles now.

    Grice-Mullen is making other alterations as well. The opener was effectively his first game at full speed, having missed large chunks of training camp with a hamstring injury.

    He’s also about to become a punt returner, with Ian Smart still watching practices from the sideline.

  214. Garret July 9, 2009 2:38 pm

    Congratulations to NMSU for apparently getting a very talented DT. This JC DT should help them immediately…and he was expected to play at UCLA right away, but now he’ll play for the coach who was UCLA’s defensive coordinator last season.

    Received word that Compton College defensive tackle Branden Warner, who originally committed to UCLA, is at New Mexico State and ready to enroll in summer school.

  215. Garret July 9, 2009 2:38 pm

    Thank you to Tombo for the article in post #211 and #213.

  216. Garret July 9, 2009 2:41 pm

    Feature interview with Bess. It is apparently available for free for non-subscribers from scout.com.

    Thompson: I had a feeling that you would be ready to prove to everyone that they had made a mistake.

    Bess: Exactly. I love being the underdog man! No pressure, no nothing. You can just go out and do what you’ve got to do. Just go handle your business and block everybody else out.

  217. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2009 2:48 pm

    Don’t “sweat it” Jack- you’re fine…

  218. Jack Flash July 9, 2009 2:52 pm

    good one dpk

  219. Mini Buffalo Ranch Chicken Sandwich July 9, 2009 3:08 pm

    those new Angus burgers at McDonalds are pretty good. Cannot beat the Sirloin one at Jacks though.

    When did they get rid of the BBQ sirloin burger?

  220. Committed Road Warrior July 9, 2009 3:51 pm

    I spend the last week or so barnstorming the West Coast for job interviews and a short holiday and look at what I miss!

    Congrats to all the new commits! That, and I’ll have to go back later on and watch the most recent WB show, as it appears Colt was the guest.

    At this point, it looks like the only road game I’ll be heading off to this season is the UNLV game and either the Nevada or San Jose game (but not both). I’ll be sure to let the gang know of my intentions as the time approaches.

  221. Ralph July 9, 2009 3:58 pm

    I hope you land a job on the west coast and not in the N.E. like new jersey or new york…

  222. Committed Road Warrior July 9, 2009 4:32 pm


    I’ve got a job offer in DC on the table pending completion of a background investigation. They’ll officially bring me on once the background check clears, most likely in late Sept./early Oct. I’m still waiting to hear back from the folks in the Bay Area.

    I guess one of the advantages of still staying young is that I don’t have that much to fill out, relatively speaking. Therefore, completing the SF-86 shouldn’t take very long.

    That, and I have nothing to hide.

  223. LizKauai (iPhone) July 9, 2009 4:40 pm

    On the way to Kailua with Slugger and Jason. Prayed for Pops.

  224. Mrs. A-House July 9, 2009 4:51 pm

    Hi Everybody!

    Update on Warrior fb Jack in the Box antenna ball promotion. Spoke with the manager at the outlet at Tamarind Park (between Bishop and Alakea Streets downtown). He says they’re almost sold out for today, BUT expecting 9 cases tomorrow (9 x 100 = 9,000) available from tomorrow for the entire month or while supplies last. He claims the shipment totaled 180,000 of these little buggers, so there should be enough for everybody who wants one. No urgency at this time, but don’t wait too long. He invites everybody to come on down to the downtown outlet whether you want to get a free one with a big lunch meal deal or buy only the helmet for $1.49. BTW, I enjoyed the Jumbo Jack sandwich, large fries and gigantic drink (can’t remember the last time I ate there). Tasted better than those served at BK. ST, hope I’m not violating any “no free advertising” rules of this blog.

  225. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 4:58 pm

    #209. Very good. It means ‘that is therefore because of this’. What TV President Sheen doesnt mention, is this latin phrase is used to underscore a fallacy in logic.
    If someone where to pick an apple from a tree and observe it was green, than say, this is an apple, it is green, therefore all apples are green….. he would of course be wrong because his major premise was in error. His logic is smooth and probably everything that follows believeable.

    Again, consider that UH coaches are paid and considered professional. Are we to presume that because they are professional by definition they are also proficient? And if so, that every recruit they select will therefore be successful?
    The words flow and I feel the passion, but the logic is misplaced.
    If that doesnt hit home than quiery the reasons for TARP bailouts.
    Too many people pile up logic on faulty premises and when the shit hits the fan–as it id in the sub-prime market–the house of cards tumble.

    To me, these early unheralded recruits have alot to prove and the proof will be on a D1A field–not in their selection by “professional and proficient” coaches….having said that, I would join Pride in welcoming all these commits to our warrior ohana and extend best wishes for their success.

  226. wafan July 9, 2009 4:59 pm

    I hope everyone going to the fundraiser tonight has a great time!

    No swooning over Colt, ladies.

  227. wafan July 9, 2009 5:03 pm

    Dang. For a recent college graduate, Jason has enough cash to go tonight?

    I guess I did something wrong to end up without cash.


  228. Committed Road Warrior July 9, 2009 5:18 pm


    Looks like Jason’s been able to keep himself busy over the summer period, eh? Think of the numerous CC’s and other local engagements abound and surely the time is passing by…..

  229. wafan July 9, 2009 5:24 pm

    Almost forgot.

    Welcome to another Kaua’i Warrior!!! Whoo-hoo!

  230. wafan July 9, 2009 5:28 pm

    CRW . . .

    Good luck to you, too, on your job search!!! A most difficult time for those seeking employment.

    Some of my students are refusing to leave college simply because they cannot find a position in their fields. They are working on their graduate diplomas. A few are working on their post-doc specialties.

    Problem is they might be over qualified for entry level. I have been telling them to get hooked up with an internship or to start their own companies

  231. Boise State Football Coach July 9, 2009 5:46 pm

    Let me tell you good folks a thing or two. Admittingly, we as coaches at Boise State keep tabs of what the other teams are doing in regards to recruiting. The saying of knowing what your enemy is doing is true. And we have been watching your Warrior coaches closely this summer as they seemed to have an eye for the football recruits that are long shots or sleepers. At first there was serious discernment on all the pledges your Warrior team was getting. And we did our research to see what was going on. But in all candidness, we look at your Warrior recruits bemusingly. For they seem to be neither stars in their high school league or even the top stars on their high school team. Furthermore, we imputed data from their camp and combine appearances and we were even puzzled of what the alluring appeal these recruits have to the Warrior coaches. This coming WAC media day when I see the Warrior coaches I’ll ask them. But in the meantime tell your coaches that the secret to recruiting is to recruit proven playmakers.

  232. Ralph July 9, 2009 6:04 pm

    Slugger do not mistaken eat the slugs or snails in your garden, rat lung disease is bad stuff…

  233. SteveM July 9, 2009 6:07 pm

    Cheers to ST and the Tsai-ko’s at the Luana Hills benefit dinner right now!

  234. Garret July 9, 2009 6:08 pm

    It sounds like the Browns are moving VERY slowly to sign their draft picks. I hope that this doesn’t cause David Veikune to miss any camp time, as he’ll need every rep possible if they want him to learn both the ILB and OLB positions after he played DE in college.

    Brian Robiskie and Mohamed Massaquoi, and linebacker David Veikune — there have been no conversations with any of the picks in regards to a contract.

  235. Committed Road Warrior July 9, 2009 6:10 pm


    See my post #222. I don’t envision any issues with the paperwork, short of getting grilled by the criminal investigator towards the end of the background process.

  236. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2009 6:10 pm

    Hey Boise Coach-

    And I’m the King of England. Why don’t you guys schedule some tougher OOC away games. And while you’re at it, get rid of the BS Blue turf and play fair. See y’all at the stadium this season. Hope you guys can handle our green turf.

  237. Garret July 9, 2009 6:14 pm


    Best of luck with your job search! If the DC company is doing a background check, that is very promising. There are a lot of positions available in DC right now, so that might be a good option if the Bay Area one and others fall through.

    It would be easier to make UH games from the Bay Area, but at least you’d get to see all of Colt’s Redskins games on TV in DC.

  238. Committed Road Warrior July 9, 2009 6:33 pm



    The guys in DC have sent me a tentative offer, with the final offer contingent on me not only clearing the background check. Next fiscal year’s budget might also be of consideration if the investigators start slacking on the background check.

    Oh, and the DC “company” happens to be Uncle Sam.

  239. Committed Road Warrior July 9, 2009 6:36 pm

    The “not only” in my post #238 shouldn’t have been there.

    In reflection, anything can happen, but something is better than nothing in these trying times.

  240. Garret July 9, 2009 6:43 pm


    Uncle Sam has a lot more jobs available now than in the past few years…especially since they are taking over some jobs that they used to subcontract out to private companies (who got RICH off that outsourcing). At least you know that Uncle Sam won’t be folding up and laying everyone off like some companies have done.

  241. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2009 6:45 pm


    Kekoa may be able to help you with a federal job too. Shoot him an email. Best of luck to you.

  242. A-House July 9, 2009 6:55 pm

    hot dog!! Boise St coach and WF2 sounds like the same person writing – can that be?? always with the negative against the players and especially the coaches.

  243. A-House July 9, 2009 6:57 pm


    If the Feds hire you, hope you can still make the UNLV game.

    BTW, the Feds do have an excellent medical, dental, vision, and drug plan – only down side is you get only Fed holidays off.

  244. hoho July 9, 2009 7:04 pm

    hoho likes the boise coach. truth will bite you in the nose every time.

  245. labrat July 9, 2009 7:05 pm

    Depending on the type of job backround check could take a while.

  246. jm2375 July 9, 2009 7:05 pm

    Good evening Tsai-kos!!

    Welcome to the Warrior ohana, Mr Shigematsu!

    CRW – good luck in your job search.

    A classmate of mine is moving to Houston next month, where her husband got a job with the symphony there, since neither of them seem to be getting paid by the Honolulu Symphony… 🙁

  247. Committed Road Warrior July 9, 2009 7:19 pm


    Thanks for the heads-up! Honestly, I didn’t think I had much of a shot to be considered for the DC job. But alas, they’re seriously considering me. That said, until an official offer is tendered Uncle Sam can always renege on it if they feel otherwise. So with that you get the feeling that one shouldn’t take anything for granted, but all of this is a step in the right direction.


    Yep. Can’t help but think that agencies taking over certain outsourced functions will become a prominent trend for this administration…..for better or worst.

  248. koakane™ July 9, 2009 7:30 pm

    sending 😆 out good times to all attending the Luana Hills bash tonight.

    congrats to home bode :mrgreen: shane for being selected to all star game. give um bro

    all those stuck at home you have a nice evening too

  249. koakane™ July 9, 2009 7:33 pm

    Meet The Coaches” Event On Thursday, July 16 At Murphy’s
    HONOLULU – Meet the new University of Hawai‘i coaches for men’s volleyball and women’s basketball on Thursday, July 16, from 5:30 p.m. until 9:00 p.m. at Murphy’s Bar and Grill in downtown Honolulu. Merchant Street will be closed and there will be live music by “Firehouse”, food, and beverages.

    another reminder to save this date. should be a good one

  250. LizKauai (iPhone) July 9, 2009 7:35 pm

    Woo hoo!
    This is an awesome event. Will share with you soon. Check facebook for pix.

    Colt, Davone, Mouton and Ashley Lelie – awesome!

    Prayers for Pops please.

  251. Committed Road Warrior July 9, 2009 7:35 pm

    A-House #243:

    If the Feds take as long as they say they’re gonna take to complete the background check, I should still be living on the west coast come the UNLV game. We’re looking at ~2 months to complete the background check.

    They (in DC) currently have me slated for an October entry-on-duty date, but mentioned that that could be delayed to early/mid-November or beyond if the background check takes longer to complete.

  252. WarriorMojo July 9, 2009 7:41 pm

    Jeez, sound and fury signifying nada. That explanation of “post hoc, ergo propter hoc” is totally erroneous. The phrase actually references the misconception that correlation proves causation. The key element being illustrated is chronological or temporal and has nothing at all to do with inductive logic as demonstrated by the “this apple is green ergo all apples are green” example.

  253. WarriorMojo July 9, 2009 7:44 pm

    Of course you like the boise coach. Why wouldn’t you? That’s just another of your sock puppets.

    By the way truth has never bitten me in the nose. I think you’ve been smokin’ too many mirrors.

  254. WarriorMojo July 9, 2009 7:56 pm

    What kind of twinkie predicts misfortune “4-5 years from now”? Must be a dum dum.

  255. Derek July 9, 2009 7:56 pm

    I don’t know who’s #231 of Boise State, but he’s got a good point, a very good point. Recruiting proven playmakers is a big key. Recruiting on the idea of projecting for the future is a 50/50 proposition, probably even less. Because recruiting is the life blood of the program, coaches cannot make a lot of mistakes. If they do, they will be out of a job real quick. I cannot in all honesty at this point trust the coaching staff yet because they have been on the job 2 years of recruiting and in some cases 1 season. The jury is still out and we won’t know for maybe 2 or 3 years from how to see how well they are doing. That’s why it’s very interesting. I, like everybody else want the Warrior Nation to be the very best and win the WAC every year. I wonder if one of the three QB (Neilson, Shutter, and the Calif. kid that escapes me) will emerge to be an eventual starter and be very good. If, if, if, if, etc. There are a lot of ifs. There are not guarantees in life. Manti Teo might come close. The coaches are professionals or at least you would think so. Doctors are professionals too. Some doctors do a lousy job too. Like anybody else, coaches are human beings and they make mistakes. I’m hoping for the best like I said and I hope this season will be a very good one. One thing I do know is that Boise State, year in and year out, is very, very good. Excellent in fact. When a Boise State coach says something I think their track record speak for itself. There’s nothing wrong w/ schools like Kapaa, Campbell, Kaimuki, Leilehua, Pearl City, Moanalua, and Kaimuki. Leilehua was State champion. The others are not exactly powerhouses perenially. There’s no private school recruit just yet. I’m sure there will be soon. I hope there are some proven playmakers in there someplace. Note. Colt Brennan was a 3 star player. I also trusted
    June Jones judgment in a quarterback. I also trusted, because he was a proven coach, Mike Cavanaugh, but he’s at Oregon State now because he put OL in the pros. I hope Coach Shaw will show his mettle.
    And I hope Rolo will improve after last year.

  256. WarriorMojo July 9, 2009 8:00 pm

    Being optimistic isn’t necessarily unrealistic.

    Being cynical isn’t necessarily realistic.

    No one can predict the future with 100% accuracy.

    This list is so tedious these days with all these “experts” telling people how to think.

    Anyone who thinks they know more about offensive line play than Pride. is either smokin’ mirrors or better have a long LONG coaching pedigree.

  257. WarriorMojo July 9, 2009 8:08 pm

    Derek, if your point is that we would be better off if all our recruits were consensus five star players, no one would argue against that. Of course even that is no indicator of success. Look at Notre Dame. All that money and publicity for what?

    But, the point is that five star and even four star recruits are not knocking down our doors right now. Part of that has to do with the ranking system and part of that has to do with the fact that we do not play in a BCS conference. It is what it is. But if we had gotten a commitment from Vehikite a year ago, the critics would have been against that too. It was only after sc offered that most of the message board geeks sang up.

  258. Garret July 9, 2009 8:14 pm

    Colt and Chase Daniel sure have bonded at Washington…both of them hope that Colt can beat out Todd Collins for the #2 spot and Chase hopes that he can beat out Todd Collins for the #3 spot.

    And for those who doubt that Daniel can catch on with Washington, perhaps as the No. 3 quarterback behind projected starter Jason Campbell and projected No. 2 QB Colt Brennan?

    Well, Daniel wanted to thank Washington coach Jim Zorn, himself a former quarterback.

    “He must see something in me that all the other NFL teams didn’t,” Daniel said.

    “I’m given a fair shot at winning the No. 3 slot. It’s a long process. We probably won’t know until the last preseason game because they want four quarterbacks most of camp.”

    Right now, that other quarterback is Todd Collins, a 14-year NFL veteran who was briefly a Chief.

    According to The Washington Post, Daniel’s chances of winning a roster slot may be affected by Brennan’s ability to beat Collins out for the No. 2 job.

  259. Garret July 9, 2009 8:15 pm

    It is just like Colt to welcome a QB to Washington right after he signed with them.

    Brennan and Daniel already have a relationship as comrades in passing arms. In Brennan’s final year at Hawaii and Daniel’s junior season at Missouri, they met as Heisman Trophy finalists in New York and became good friends.

    Barely had Daniel signed as an undrafted free agent with Washington when his cell phone signaled delivery of a text message.

    It was Brennan, tapping out a welcome: “Hey man! Come on up here.”

    “It was good knowing someone,” Daniel said, “especially in the quarterback room, that you can trust and that can help you.”

    In Brennan and Daniel, Washington has two of the great quarterbacks of recent college football seasons. And two quarterbacks who were devalued (Brennan was drafted in the sixth round) because of being labeled as spread-offense, system quarterbacks.

    “We barely made it here, huh?” Brennan said soon after Daniel’s signing. “You’d think for two guys that had that kind of success …”

  260. kymrykauai July 9, 2009 8:17 pm

    Hey lizk…glad to hear you are having a blast! Will check pix on facebook.

  261. madeinhawaii July 9, 2009 8:18 pm


    “Celestine Prophecy”…. I bet I still have two hard copies of that… somewhere… someplace… and the sequel, too.

  262. Garret July 9, 2009 8:23 pm


    Excellent points of course. I think that the Warriors would have in the best shape if the local players they first offered (I’m talking about a lot more players than Manley) had committed…but since they don’t seem to interested in taking UH’s offer right now, I’m glad the coaches had their camps to evaluate the other recruits as early as possible and choose the players that best fit their needs.

    Did you see that video (I think on rivals) where one Kapolei recruit UH offered says that it is his teammate (which UH also offered I believe) and his dream to go to Oregon State together. Given that environment, the UH coaches are correct to move on. Sitting around a hoping for the top recruits to commit could leave a huge hole in the recruiting class and really be a big problem.

    Mac and the rest of the coaches have gotten commits for a good number of players that can fit their system, and they still have scholarships left over to try to convince the other players they offered to commit. It also creates a limited supply of scholarships that encourages recruits not to just think of UH as a safety school and to end their recruiting process and commit to UH if they want to stay home.

  263. Garret July 9, 2009 8:26 pm

    I think that it is a great idea that Texas brought in this motivational speaker…

    Author and motivational speaker Jon Gordon encouraged the team Wednesday to ponder those topics and many others — anything but the actual act of winning. He told the players to think about good habits, not good outcomes.

    “That’s how championships are won,” Gordon said to the team. “I’m asking you to focus on your moments. Seize your moments and you’re going to love your outcomes.”

    Gordon said he hoped to inspire the team to build “a culture of greatness” before the Sept. 5 home opener against Lousiana-Monroe.

    His hourlong presentation in the team meeting room covered obvious but perhaps overlooked ideas. He reminded players to know clearly what they want, to strive always to get better, to maintain mental strength, to leave a legacy of purpose and encouragement.

    “If you can see it, you can create it,” Gordon said.

    He implored the players to “dream while awake,” a reference to the belief that people are likely to dream about thoughts they entertain in the last 30 minutes before sleep. Gordon warned players to ignore what he called “energy vampires” — scornful fans and critical media.

  264. OldDiver July 9, 2009 8:27 pm

    Good recruiting is greatly influenced by your location, i.e University of Oregon. Oregon has all the money it needs to out recruit anyone in the country, what prevents this from happening is that the U of Oregon is in Oregon. The challenges that UH faces is many time greater than U of Oregon. Trying to out recruit USC will mean a quick departure for Coach Mack. Mack’s job is to find the unpolished diamonds. Not easy, but I know he can do it.

  265. madeinhawaii July 9, 2009 8:39 pm

    UH has a long way to go before it becomes a place where there are more good (3-star or better) players knocking than scholies available. But it they can build a program that wins the WAC conference with consistent regularity, I believe the very nature of this being Hawaii and Hawaii’s only game in town, will make prospects start to line up long before the coaches get a chance to approach them. ((The success of Colt, Bess, Satele, Ryan, etc. will also help tremendously.)

  266. d1島 July 9, 2009 9:13 pm

    Are we all talking about the Big XII’s Top Recruiter after his first year in the conference? (2001)

  267. lava July 9, 2009 9:13 pm

    Does anyone believe for a second a Boise State coach is going to come on this forum and tell us our recruits to date are all projects in the making and if we want to remain competitive we better get blue chippers from here on out? Could it be that someone is frustrated with what he or she views as projects and throws a coach in their name to gain credibility. If you want credibility you loser then don’t camouflage your team’s uniforms with the field.

    As for recruiting, the guys on the radar screen were offered long ago. It was time to move on to the guys likely to be on the radar screen by the end of the season. We jumped on some of those guys that long to be Warriors and play for the home team. I doubt any kid has aspirations to grow up and play college football in a state best known for tater tots, but UH has a rich tradition, and the local papers have been featuring on many of those stars. So maybe these recruits aren’t being offered by Notre Dame, when those mama buys from Boise play us, you can bet our boys will give them a face full of elbow. [gotta love football talk in July]

    It bears repeating, the coaches have seen these guys in action, up close and personal, doing combine type stuff, but also doing game situation reps against known talent. They got to measure the heart and soul of some of these kids, and measure how they respond to coaching. This is a lot more info than they could discern from just a 40 time and a tape of clips man-powering weaker opponents.

  268. d1島 July 9, 2009 9:17 pm

    …..and the guy who was constantly being accused of “recruiting” kids from all over Hawaii to build the greatest HS program in the State?

    All of a sudden they don’t know how to judge talent?

  269. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2009 9:20 pm

    C’mon folks-

    An assistant Boise coach posting here?! Really?! I mean REALLY?!

    I have too much respect for the Boise program to think that one of their “assistants” would just happen to pop up and chime in on a discussion we were sort of having amongst ourselves.

    Lousy fiction and even worse theater, I say…

    Thanks for your fine counter points, Mojo Esquire!

  270. Garret July 9, 2009 9:21 pm


    I agree about the importance of camps and the edge that provides UH’s coaches…I’m been hoping that UH would have an extensive use of camps for years. UH is in an ideal situation for camps because most recruits from Hawaii can only attend their camp (plus the unaffiliated camps like All Poly and Just Win)–in places like Texas and California recruits can easily attend camps from 5+ schools and see their facilities…but for most recruits from Hawaii, the only campus they will attend a camp at will be UH’s campus.

  271. d1島 July 9, 2009 9:23 pm

    Dang it!

    They closed the Lamborghini showroom in the Wynn!
    Well, cross THAT off my list of stops in September….

  272. Garret July 9, 2009 9:23 pm

    I thought that everyone would realize that wasn’t really a BSU coach…and the writing style looked very similar to someone who posts here and has given similar criticism already.

  273. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 9:29 pm

    #252. keep trying. lol.

  274. roysan16 July 9, 2009 9:36 pm

    You look at the venue, this message board, and you see debate. And what comes with debate are two sides of every argument, and if the argument is with sarcasm, cynicism and objectivity then it’s abnormal because everyone else here conforms the other way, mostly with biases and always pro-UH. This is a given, and will never change. So if I’m cynical get use to it. Or move on.

    My statements. Or anyone elses statement looking at Coach Mack’s recruiting this summer does pique curiosity. This isn’t wrong. This isn’t being not loyal to the Warriors, either.

    When you look at football recruits, in general, you want to look for size, speed, athleticism and how they perform in camps and games. A lot of the recruits the Warriors have gotten have less then desirable size, speed and athleticism. And if you look further the recruits aren’t even stars in their high school leagues. Is this wrong to say this? I don’t think so.

    When you look at the recruits, individually, the coaching staff is propagating the idea that some of the recruits are hidden gems and did well in camps. Okay, fine… then I try to look at what makes them so appealing. A check of their combine numbers are sub par. A check to see what honors they’ve received in their league play is minimal. And it does make me wonder. It makes wonder a lot, especially when I know that how the recruit performs at the high school level-on the field, how fast and athletic they are.. it all transcends onto the next level with UH.

    And conversely if the Warriors are signing up recruits that are slow, not as athletic as you would like them to be and not the playmaker types then it is my belief that the team’s play in the future will be vulnerable to successes.

  275. Garret July 9, 2009 9:37 pm

    The two most important things to get the top local players to stay home: win and upgrade the facilities. The facilities are being upgraded now but are still behind in many areas…and the greatest facilities in the world would be less of a draw if things like forcing the players to scale a fence to work out continue.

    All the studies I’ve seen have shown that winning normally has a year or two delayed effect on recruits–the seniors may already be committed, but the junior and sophomores can think more highly of a team that is winning then. The state was behind the Warriors at the end of the 2006 season and especially during the 2007 season, and I have to think that helped with the 2009 class (and partially with 2008, but much of the late-recruiting success there was goodwill for Mac and some excellent scrambling job by the coaches).

    Last season didn’t go as well as it could have, so it wouldn’t be a surprise if the top local 2010 players aren’t jumping on the bandwagon now. However, winning this season can change that for this class and especially for the 2011 class. Winning big *is* possible this year, with BSU and Fresno State coming to Hawaii and with the Pac-10 team being played on the road picked to finish last in their conference. There are a lot of winnable games, but there are a lot of games that could be quite tough…the outcome of those games will very important for years to come for the Warrior program.

  276. Garret July 9, 2009 9:38 pm

    Free play link time. Please ignore my next 5 posts if you do not want to read the off-topic stuff.

    The swine flu pandemic is intensifying–the southern hemisphere is in the middle of its winter flu season and swine flu seems to have replaced the seasonal flu viruses that circulated before this year, raising concerns that the flu shots produced this year will be useless.

  277. Garret July 9, 2009 9:38 pm

    Volvo and partners invested $25 million to accelerate the introduction of fuel cells into the market.

  278. Garret July 9, 2009 9:39 pm

    Google revealed some of the companies that are working to design and guild devices with their Chrome Operating System, including Acer, Adobe, ASUS, Freescale, HP, Lenovo, Qualcomm, TI, and Toshiba.

  279. Garret July 9, 2009 9:39 pm

    Ohio firefighter didn’t want to pay to board his two dogs when he went on a cruise, so he suspended them from a pipe in his basement and shot them 11 times! He apparently bragged about killing his dogs at work and other firefighters turned him in to police.

  280. Garret July 9, 2009 9:40 pm

    I cannot understand how people could dig up as many as 300 bodies and resell the empty plots. They may have made $300,000 over four years, but now they are arrested and the families of those who no longer know where their loved ones are devastated.

  281. Garret July 9, 2009 9:40 pm

    Free play links pau.

  282. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 9:57 pm

    #255. last sentence…..let’s hope he ditched the carousel and the stat sheets.

  283. warriorfanny2 July 9, 2009 10:20 pm

    such passionate fluster over the blue turf and yada, yada, yada–y not beat boise state the old-fashioned way like we did in 2007, just hard-nose football and reduce mistakes…..
    it takes total team effort in all three phases plus coaching prep, solid game strategy and gametime adjustments…..
    @WSU, @LaT, BSU, FSU, @NEV, Navy and WISC….proof is in the puddin.

  284. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 10:27 pm

    Anyone else think it’s weird that some people are posting under multiple names today and then having debates with themselves?
    Yes, we do have ID checks in our system.

  285. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 10:35 pm

    Seems like the root of the animosity is that the scouting services didn’t have on their radar many of the UH commitments.
    So here’s the debate: Is UH at fault for recruiting players not on the scouting services’ lists, or are the scouting services at fault for not having the UH recruits on their list?

  286. jm2375 July 9, 2009 10:39 pm

    #285 – I think it’s the latter. Like people say, once the recruit starts getting offers, the star rating goes up… reaaaaaaal objective systems. 🙄

  287. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 10:40 pm

    By the way, you all know how a scouting service determines stars, right?
    They send out questionnaire forms to coaches, players, combine administrators, etc.
    The respondents then list the number of offers and interests. The more schools listed, the higher the ranking. The services don’t actually go through game tapes or interview family members.

  288. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 10:44 pm

    It’s a mathematical thing. There are too many schools and too many programs for scouts to track everyone.
    But like I said before, all coaches — including UH’s — like who they like. They have their own rating system.

  289. protector July 9, 2009 10:47 pm

    I totally agree with ‘lava’ & ‘kama crab’ on their take about “proven” players & recruits–although obviously the jury will be out for at least a couple of years, i’m optimistic about the currrent recruits & the direction & progress that the program is making. I share others’ skeptical/cynical view about Boise State Coach’s posting. A genuine Boise State Coach would acknowledge more than anyone the merits of developing players who were not necessarily highly-touted or highly-rated. How many 3 or 4 star players have been signed by Boise in the last 5 years?? It’s a tribute to the magnificent job that their coaches are doing along with getting kids with the right attitude who buy into a program–it also doesn;t hurt that in Boise you just don’t have the same kind of distractions that there are in Hawaii. If Boise State “Coach” is reading my posting, I’d say to him that regardless of the philosophy in recruiting, UH is going to kick your team’s butt this year and then you can comment because Hawaii’s players will have “proven” it on the college field rather than the high school one!

  290. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 10:47 pm

    Boise State, the subject of today’s side discussions, hardly has any high-ranking recruits. First, it’s difficult to recruit to WAC schools in general and Idaho in particular.
    But they have a great system, and they go after the players they believe will fit in the system.
    It seems to work.

  291. al July 9, 2009 10:48 pm

    Stephen Tsai:

    July 9th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
    Anyone else think it’s weird that some people are posting under multiple names today and then having debates with themselves?
    Yes, we do have ID checks in our system

    come tsai….i dare you to reveal the culprits.

  292. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc July 9, 2009 10:51 pm

    I never heard about this fundraiser until a few hours ago – not that I could afford $150 for a ticket even if I’d heard about it six days or six weeks ago. Doesn’t look like the recession has hit die-hard UH football fans very hard. What’s Na Koa raising the money for?

    Speaking of which – raising money, that is – if you’re interested in Hawaiian culture, music, crafts, and food as well as hands-on educational and environmental exhibits – do attend the Ulupo Heiau Ho`ike this Saturday from 10 am to 3 pm at the southern edge of Kawainui Marsh just below the Windward YMCA on Kailua Road. Great family experience – free parking and no admission charge. All proceeds from selling the Hawaiian Plate Lunches will go towards the Kailua Hawaiian Civic Club’s scholarship program.

    Back to football: When is the Second Annual Football Clinic for Women going to be held? Or did I miss hearing/reading about it as well?

  293. labrat July 9, 2009 10:52 pm

    I think it is weird how some worry so much about recruiting. The coaches are going to recruit who they want. Why worry about something you have no control over? I would never call a recruit sub par.

  294. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 10:54 pm

    If you’d show up at our gatherings, you’d find out the names. I blab all the time at our functions.

  295. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 10:56 pm

    Aw, Doc, you weren’t listening.
    We gave away a ticket to the banquet at last Saturday’s dinner at Bay View. Midnight won, and he gave it to LizKauai.

  296. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 11:02 pm

    You hit it right on, Lab Rat.
    It’s not like the all-star game. Fans can’t vote in a recruit.

  297. al July 9, 2009 11:03 pm

    actually, i was there recently at a cc and heard some rumor from the guy sitting next to me.

  298. al July 9, 2009 11:04 pm

    funny, how all of a sudden some folks disappeared?

  299. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 11:05 pm

    Then again …
    A few years ago, somebody from sportshawaii.com called me to say that a player had left a Division I school and was at a JC, that the player wanted to come back to Hawaii.
    The caller wanted me to relay the message to the UH coaches.
    So I called a coach, and relayed the message.
    A day later, UH offered a scholarship, and the player accepted.
    And that’s how David Veikune became a Warrior.

  300. al July 9, 2009 11:08 pm

    but, i haven’t missed a tailgate or a home game in two years now.

    i am getting old for those late night get aways.

  301. LizKauai (iPhone) July 9, 2009 11:08 pm

    And boy is Liz grateful!!!!

  302. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 11:08 pm

    I think UH fans are passionate about their team, but some people assume the supporters follow blindly.
    That’s not so.
    Fans are very opinionated, and not always in agreement.

  303. LizKauai (iPhone) July 9, 2009 11:10 pm

    #301 was a response to #295

  304. al July 9, 2009 11:13 pm

    tsai….but, what do you call a fan who debates his own self publicly, on a blog for example and then pats himself on his own back “vicariously”?

  305. SteveM July 9, 2009 11:14 pm

    Stephen Tsai:
    July 9th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
    If you’d show up at our gatherings, you’d find out the names. I blab all the time at our functions.

    ST — I think Al only shows up if he in charge of the arrangements. Worked once at Genji’s for the first Rich2176/Ronnie bash… 👿

    Maybe promise him a seat at your table and put him in charge… 🙄

  306. roysan16 July 9, 2009 11:14 pm

    recruiting not an all star game true
    but when you read how the Warriors sign up rush ends and they’re doing times like 4.9 and 5.06 you begin to wonder.

    when they recruit players less than 150 you begin to wonder

    linemen that are slow, linemen struggling to do 8 reps of 185 you begin to wonder what the staff is seeing and how authentic their rating system really is

  307. al July 9, 2009 11:15 pm

    yup, that fundraiser was posted here several days ago, several times.

  308. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 11:17 pm

    I’m often puzzled when I see some arguing what they believe is a dissenting point rather than stating an opinon. The assumption is that all readers think the same way, and so they are debating against the majority. But, in fact, they are debating against themselves.

  309. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc July 9, 2009 11:17 pm

    Missed the drawing – we left right after the “food drawings” because we wanted to get dessert from the new frozen yogurt store across from Zippy’s in Kailua. We barely beat the madding crowd of fireworks watchers as it was.

    Congratulations to LizK on winning the ticket. By my calculations, in 37 years, four months, and thirteen days I’ll be debt-free and can spend my money on whatever – assuming, of course, that I haven’t shuffed off this mortal coil by then.

    Hmmm – wonder where Aloha Stadium will be located in 2046? Unless we change our wicked ways, UH Manoa will be waterfront property so the lower campus facilities will have to be relocated as well.

  310. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 11:20 pm

    What I would think is that 4.9 is an honest 40 time.

  311. al July 9, 2009 11:21 pm

    having been a career night person, i now enjoy the peace and quiet of home.
    then again, we often have family functions such as fourth of july, etc.

    but, i did attend an evening cc with whitey and duffer last night.

  312. al July 9, 2009 11:27 pm

    a de will rarely run forty yards in a game.
    what is important is his first step, can he out quick that tackle?
    then, does he have a good burst of five to ten yards to arrive in the qb’s face?
    thirdly, can he run laterally to maintain the contain on the edge?
    does he have long arms to ward off the otackle?
    is he strong enough to knock off the tackles punch and thurst?
    finally, does he have a motor that is non-stop play after play, quarter after quarter?

    those are the measurables that are important in a de.

  313. al July 9, 2009 11:30 pm

    stevem….i have passed that torch a long time ago.

  314. al July 9, 2009 11:38 pm

    so these days….can you really call then antenna balls?

  315. al July 9, 2009 11:38 pm

    so these days….can you really call then antenna balls?

  316. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2009 11:42 pm

    Another prospect to debate over at 12:05 a.m.

  317. Ralph July 9, 2009 11:47 pm

    Al you having tremors again, time for some saimin to quiet the stomach 🙂

  318. Rob25 July 9, 2009 11:51 pm

    Well, my ball won’t be going on my antenna…that’s for sure!

  319. SteveM July 9, 2009 11:54 pm

    Al — no torch to pass for a medium size (25-40 pax) Genji party anyway. We’ve been often and half the Tsai-kos know the owners, so getting a room or the lounge is almost automatic for them. But there are larger venues to consider and “strangers” to deal with…

    BTW, the Garret & Rich2176 reservation was on the wall for 2 months. One week before, Art calls me and says he doesn’t know anything about it. What? Actually, he wanted to know if we wanted a buffet (all-you-can-eat type now–he decided that after seeing us eat the one and only time). But I thought the $25 dnner/tax/tip total was a little high and not conducive to people passing through mainly to pick up tickets.

  320. WarriorMojo July 9, 2009 11:57 pm

    the argument is with sarcasm, cynicism and objectivity

    No, see, here is where you go astray. Being cynical does not mean you are objective anymore than being optimistic means you are deluded. Reality can SMACK a cynic upside the head just as easily as it can smack an optimist. Didn’t you learn ANYTHING from the 2007 season? Don’t you remember “Believe”? By definition, you cannot be a cynic and “Believe”. Belief demands faith. If you are a cynic, you have faith only in failure.

    I don’t know how these recruits will turn out in the next three or four years. Neither do you. Neither does the fool on the hill no matter how much he brays. Yes, these kids are not 6′ 5″, 300 lbs with a 4.8 40 and a 99 inch reach. Guess what? Those kids aren’t lining up to come to UH just yet. We are not yet attracting the leading edge of the bell-shaped curve. That’s the present reality.

    BUT, I have full confidence that Mack and staff can recognize and develop talent. These kids that you are dismissing are high school juniors. They have another year of high school to develop and then a red shirt year (and even a gray shirt year) before they have to see the field for UH. That is two or three years in the future. How can you even begin to think that you can accurately predict their future talents when you have never seen them play, never coached them, never even talked to them? And if you cannot accurately predict the future, why say something negative now?

    What I like most about these recruits is that Mack is picking kids who seem to be solid citizens, who are appreciative of this opportunity, and who will work to become the best players they can be. The scouts have yet to find a way to measure heart and desire and dedication. I will take a two star athlete with the heart of a champion and a limitless desire for greatness over ANY lazy ass, self-entitled five star athlete every day of the week. In fact, isn’t that the exact recipe that — irony of ironies — boise has followed?

    So, my advice to you and all the other haters? Get over your hate. There is nothing EASIER in a time of crisis than to biotch and moan about how the future sucks and we’re all going to die. That is the path of least resistance. That is the LAZY way out. No emotional investment, no effort, no hope, no faith. Then, if things actually go that way, you can tell others “I told you so” to feel good about yourself. How sad.

    Instead of all that, just give these kids a chance. Give them time to grow into something, whatever that might be. Stop forcing them to have to deal with negativity from their “fans” before they ever have to deal with the “enemy”. Because the future is not yours. It’s not mine. It’s THEIRS. Let them fulfill it. Let them seize it. And for heaven’s sake, if you won’t help their efforts, just get out of the damn way. Because you don’t know the future any more than I do. THAT’S reality.

  321. Jason July 10, 2009 12:00 am

    Thanks to Pride. for sponsoring me tonight. We all had a great time. In particular, I enjoyed making fun of PowderPuff and LizKauai all night. And talking story with Slugger and LizKauai over slush floats was fun; that’s getting to be a calorific tradition every time we head over to my part of the island. 😀

    And WarriorMojo is right about post hoc ergo propter hoc. “After it, therefore, because of it.” It is indeed a logical fallacy, but it comes about in the idea that just because B happens after A, that means A caused B. In the scene from The West Wing, C.J. supposes that they lost the primary and general elections in Texas because of the aftermath that followed a bad joke. The falsehood in that was the idea that the joke led to the loss in Texas. What made more sense (but wasn’t said) was that it would be hard for a liberal Ivy League economics professor turned Massachusetts governor to win in a state like Texas.

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  324. Kekoa July 10, 2009 12:32 am

    Da Punchbowl Kid:

    July 9th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    Kekoa may be able to help you with a federal job too. Shoot him an email. Best of luck to you.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~CRW ~ If interested I can send you the details. They only have 2,299 openings left because I do believe they are about to hire the son of one of our most prominent bloggers. He just when grad from AZ., and like you, is undergoing the gov’t B.I. check.

    I will tell you this, Foreign Service Officers folks learn to really like their jobs. They travel in style, with Diplomatic immunity. That means no worries about Homeland security or customs checks. Your stuff is sealed, and they whisk you thru the airport security areas. Only time there may be a slight delay was whenever I was armed. Plane can’t depart without you anyway, so no matter! Everyone waits for you. Pilot can leave once you get on board.

    What will you be doing? Whatever you score high on in the aptitude test. Sometimes they will re-train you to fit their needs. Like I told a certain blogger who graduated with a background in Journalism, they need people like her to chronicle what happens at the American Embassy she is assigned to.

    If she shows an aptitude for anything else, whatever her educational certifications say she is qualified in will help her get a leg up. Foreign language skills will be taught to you at the DLI (Defense Language Institute) in Presidio of Monterey, CA. for whatever outpost you are assigned to.

    If you are interested in learning more before jumping on the wagon, I can send you the website for you to peruse. I will then notify someone who will keep an eye out for your application. He is retired from the Department, but helps recruit.

    These folks retire on a very comfortable salary. Most of them have wives who eventually decide to sign on for something to do around the Embassy. Jobs like handling passports, classified couriers, etc. What the hell, it’s another 35K – 48K pay check to the household right?!

    Let me know if you’re interested. For some folks, traveling the world is not their idea of having a good time. If it is…this could be for you, Bubba!

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