O-line not set yet

Line coach Gordy Shaw said the Warriors still are not set at two starting jobs on the offensive line. Left tackle Austin Hansen, right guard Adrian Thomas and right tackle Laupepa Letuli have secured starting jobs. 

The coaches were prepared to announce left guard Brysen Ginlack and center Brett Leonard as starters. But Shaw said at least another day of evaluation is needed. The holdup, apparently, is the battle between Leonard and Bronson Tiwanak at center. Leonard and Ginlack had been battling at left guard. 

Head coach Greg McMackin said a decision could wait another day. The Warriors will not begin practicing exclusively for USC, the season opener, until Thursday. 

* * * * * 

 Let’s suppose your partner leaves. You could sue, I imagine, on grounds the partner  broke some sort of  agreement. I’m pretty sure the WAC has legal arguments against the schools that make commitment promises one week and then leave the next. I’m sure the WAC, through legal means, could get both money and make the breakaways hurt as much. But … sheesh. If somebody doesn’t want to be with you, somebody doesn’t want to be with you. It’s wasted energy and time to think otherwise, and, in the end, Fresno State, Nevada, Boise State and, if there are no statutes of limitations, UNLV, San Dieg State, etc., are not coming back. The WAC should focus all of its energies on finding new teams — and maybe its dignity.

* * * * *

On the other hand, it would be kind of fun for the WAC to sue the presidents of Fresno State and Nevada. Essentially, both are board members of the WAC. They have access to the finances and other WAC information. To use such information for their own benefit, breaking their responsibility to the league, well, that makes them liable. 

* * * * * 

We have an autographed placard  honoring Dave Shoji’s 1,000th victory. If you want to enter the drawing for it, please post: Are you ready for some volleyball?

Avis chooses a winner tonight.


  1. Last Call August 24, 2010 6:35 am

    Still nothing but crickets in Utah.

  2. 808ike August 24, 2010 6:36 am


  3. Hank August 24, 2010 6:37 am

    …let’s all kiss up to the gods on Mt. MWC to maintain our dignity…

  4. Last Call August 24, 2010 6:39 am

    I disagree let the bastards suffer . Get every dime that belongs to us and make them stay till the last day .

  5. koakane ip4 August 24, 2010 6:40 am

    morning all

  6. Stephen Tsai August 24, 2010 6:40 am

    Last Call:

    … Or that could be another way to look at it ….

  7. haka August 24, 2010 6:47 am

    Go Warriors!

    Go Wahine!

  8. whitey August 24, 2010 6:47 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  9. whitey August 24, 2010 6:48 am

    Good morning Tsaikos and a ho hi to d1

  10. Da Punchbowl Kid August 24, 2010 6:52 am

    Top 10!

  11. koakane ip4 August 24, 2010 6:54 am

    suppose the opposite happens, would UH be treated differently? no way the power to be would try and get everything From UH. too many times the university has bent overbackwards to accomodate other it’s time to stand firm.

  12. chopsueyboy August 24, 2010 6:55 am

    Top Twenty!

    Going to try and get to Man Camp Clinic.

    Hope I can get off work early enough.

    Any other Tsai-kos going?

  13. Da Punchbowl Kid August 24, 2010 6:55 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 😉

    If closing practices will help to beat USC, so be it. But what will Slugger do with her mornings?

    Hiya Slugger!

  14. Da Punchbowl Kid August 24, 2010 7:01 am

    UH should only do that which helps to give it a secure future in a conference somewhere.

    Other than that, I’m with koakane, stick it to ’em deep and hard!

    At least we’ll be stabbing from the front and not in the back like they did!


    BEAT USC!!!

    GO WAHINE!!!

  15. Last Call August 24, 2010 7:05 am

    Jim Leahey on BC . Going indy is the best way to go . Doesn’t like watered down WAC.

  16. rage777 August 24, 2010 7:07 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  17. rage777 August 24, 2010 7:09 am

    In today’s economy, I think you make the teams that left hurt financially. They will probably make it up being in the MWC anyway. If UH left first, I would have expected the WAC to sue UH, and frankly I wouldn’t have mind now that we were in the MWC.

  18. Stretch August 24, 2010 7:09 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!

    ST asked me to post that practice is from 7 AM to 9 AM this morning. Unfortunately he is on the road to practice and can’t post the correction. And YES, he is still driving to the football practice that already started, nothing new.

  19. d1島 August 24, 2010 7:14 am

    Short memories seem to be the order of the day. No sense worry about lingering effects of playing hardball with the defectors. Subsequent Administrators can always claim “that didn’t happen on our watch.”

    As far as expending energy, leave that to the attorneys!

  20. d1島 August 24, 2010 7:15 am

    Thanks Stretch!

  21. d1島 August 24, 2010 7:16 am


    A hard stance on this latest round of upheaval probably will influence future conference stability.

  22. d1島 August 24, 2010 7:17 am


    No HiHo today!

    Probably should Tell Ma…..

  23. Kekoa (iPhone) August 24, 2010 7:18 am

    No worries DPK. Slugger has VIP ‘frenz’ status amongst the team, and their mom’s. She introduced me to Shane Austin’s mom at practice last week.

    Mrs. Austin is looking forward to coming to our t-gate along with some of the other parents of our Warrior team.

    …and don’t forget…our very own Bulla is now an official part of that special group. He and his lovely

    wife Lyn, joins the multi-talented recording artist,

    Nalanias resident Tsaiko’s.

  24. Kekoa (iPhone) August 24, 2010 7:20 am

    Auwe! I fogit put one kama between Nalani and da rest of da wurds!

  25. Da Punchbowl Kid August 24, 2010 7:27 am


    That’s why I qualified my statement. If playing nicely with the traitors means a more secure future for UH, then we play nicely.

    If not, then get ’em!!! Stick it to ’em!!! Make ’em pay!!! Rawrrrr!!! Aaaargh!!! oops…

    …sorry, I digress. 😳

  26. Michigan Warrior August 24, 2010 7:36 am

    Are you ready for some voleyball? I sure am, as long as it involves the University of Hawaii!!!

  27. going continental August 24, 2010 7:36 am

    when has hawaii ever gotten a break from being the most geographically isolated place in the world?

    as they say on the mainland…

    “why can’t we all just get along…..little doggie?”

  28. Michigan Warrior August 24, 2010 7:37 am

    … and volleyball* too, for that matter!

  29. Dave LetterMan August 24, 2010 7:39 am

    Morning, Tsaikos!

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  30. Slugger August 24, 2010 7:42 am

    Hi, DPK & Kekoa! Good morning, gangeez!

    I was going to work on my garden this morning killing slugs, but guess I should walk to campus & catch practice.

    K, a-walking I will go…

  31. Last Call August 24, 2010 7:50 am

    ESPN says Hawai`i has talked to the Big West.



  32. haka August 24, 2010 7:50 am

    Wahine Volleyball is BIG!

    It’s is going to be BIG season.

    The Wahine are going BIG.

    The other WAC teams are not very big.

    The non-conference games are BIG!

    This is BIG!

    Wahine Volleyball is BIG!

  33. Last Call August 24, 2010 7:53 am

    Apparently the Big West would welcome Hawai`i because it would give the Big West the needed six members for an automatic berth.

  34. tom mui August 24, 2010 7:53 am

    Good morning Hawaii!

    Who is going tonight? DPK? Pride? AL?

  35. tom mui August 24, 2010 7:54 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  36. (Jesse) James August 24, 2010 7:59 am

    Good morning Tsaikos….Hope everyone is well and has a great day today…

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

    I sort of concur that we need to play hardball. Take them for all they’ve got, they screwed us so let’s screw them back. But I am also one who believes that one of the best ways to do that is to beat the living @$%! out of the defectors and send them on their merry way to the MWC…..

  37. d1島 August 24, 2010 8:00 am

    tom mui,

    Wish I could but get family stuff.

    Probably should Tell Ma today….

  38. Tae Bo Jackson August 24, 2010 8:00 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

    I am.

  39. gigi-hawaii August 24, 2010 8:01 am

    ST, if we don’t litigate against these schools, the deals or contracts that the WAC makes will be meaningless. Everybody has to be true to their word, or else!

  40. (Jesse) James August 24, 2010 8:02 am

    Last call…

    Some of us were talking this weekend about the situation and I noted that ESPN had reported that talks were underway with the WCC and going independent in football. We actually thought that the BIG West would be more fitting for UH in the other sports and going independent in football was the only option. As it is right now, the WAC is in shambles. If NMSU drops to a lower division because of their financial situation and La Tech goes to C-USA like they want to, then the WAC is dead. We need to look at other options.

  41. Sats August 24, 2010 8:03 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  42. chawan_cut August 24, 2010 8:07 am

    who’s going tonight?

  43. LizKauai m/ August 24, 2010 8:07 am

    [b]Are you ready for some volleyball?[/b]

  44. LizKauai m/ August 24, 2010 8:08 am


    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  45. LizKauai m/ August 24, 2010 8:08 am

    been awhile


  46. 808ike August 24, 2010 8:16 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  47. papajoe2 August 24, 2010 8:18 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  48. greenthumb August 24, 2010 8:22 am

    Good morning. I am pastready for some volleyball and good news … but the big question is:

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

    As for the exit fees and so on, my thoughts as a fan who is angry now but looking ahead. UH and the remaining WAC teams need a double approach. First, on the field (and court), players playing beyond themselves and fans in the audience making plenty noise to show UH’s competitive spirit. Lots of Ws by us and other remaining teams will make the best-ever “parting gifts.” 😉

    Second, stick to the letter and spirit of the WAC law. Pursue the fines; decide whether an early departure by Fresno and Nevada is more beneficial to us or them — probably them at this point, right, but things might change. This serves two results. First, we don’t look like pushovers, we look professional, and show that we honor agreements (remember that for someone like USU, we are showing solidarity and also that choices have consequences). Second, even if it is $5 million total that the WAC gets, it is $5 million we didn’t have before. Use some of it as a golden parachute, maybe, and bring in a more proactive leader if that is something the remaining members would value? Just my few pennies, anyway.

  49. canefire808 August 24, 2010 8:22 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  50. golfnut August 24, 2010 8:25 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  51. papajoe2 August 24, 2010 8:25 am

    I hope the WAC gets $10 mil. $5 mil minus attorney fees isn’t much split 6 ways.

  52. wafan August 24, 2010 8:28 am

    A very good Tuesday to all!

  53. Last Call August 24, 2010 8:29 am

    BYU and Hawai`i should both go independent and both move the rest of their sports to the Big West .

  54. wafan August 24, 2010 8:29 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

    Only if it is Wahine volleyball!

  55. Ronnie August 24, 2010 8:30 am

    Are you ready for some voleyball?

  56. Ronnie August 24, 2010 8:32 am

    Any LoCal Tsaikos ready for a Calf Call?

    Game Day Tailgate (sort of)

    Thursday, September 2nd

    11:30 am

    Da Lu’au Hawaiian Grill

    14151 Jeffrey Road

    Irvine, CA 92620

    TEL: (949) 748-8855


    (one block east of the I-5 in the Kohl Shopping Center)

  57. Warrior Expat August 24, 2010 8:38 am

    Hey everyone, my friends and I were wondering what time would be good to get to the stadium lot on Sept. 2 to get decent parking and also be able to tailgate? 5pm game so we’re thinking getting there around noon – 1pm? Does that sound about right or should we try for earlier?

  58. LizKauai (iPad) August 24, 2010 8:42 am

    Warrior Expat- you might want to click on SteveM’s name to get to his site and look at the info there.

    A Hui Hi Hou!

  59. Bstunna2002 August 24, 2010 8:46 am

    So practice is from 7-9 tonight but isn’t tonight the coaching seminar for men..is this being held in conjunction with practice

  60. Da Punchbowl Kid August 24, 2010 8:46 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

    As in butt kickin’, goin’ to the final four volleyball?! Then this is the place and the Wahine are your team! 😉

  61. Unkanesson August 24, 2010 8:47 am

    Howzit Tsaiko Nation!

    Still lurkin’ after all these months (and years) (tip o’ the hat to Paul Simon…)

    It looks to me like the WAC is disintegrating, so I’d support UH negotiating its way into the BWC — I think it would be a perfect fit in the non-FBall sports, for both UH and BWC interests. And that would mean FBall goes Independent, as I don’t see a viable alternative, unless the MWC decides it wants us. In that case we’d have two viable options, a nice position to be in.


    I sure am! Looking forward to another fabulous season with the Rainbow Wahine! Final 4 Hana Hou!!

  62. Zion August 24, 2010 8:47 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  63. Da Punchbowl Kid August 24, 2010 8:48 am

    Bstunna –

    The practice is being help this morning 7 – 9 am. That’s a typo above.

  64. Darren August 24, 2010 8:50 am

    Source: Aggies, MWC in second round of talks


  65. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc August 24, 2010 8:53 am

    I am on the weekly e-bulletin listserv for Castle High School & ran across the following notice. If any folks out there can help out, please call. Remember – Garret graduated from Castle so if you have some not-in-use golf clubs lying around the house or out in the carport, think of him when you call. And the CHS graduates who play for UH teams.

    4) NEED ‘WOODS’ & PUTTERS…CHS P.E. needs gently used golf clubs – woods (now they are made of metal) and putters for our golf classes. If you can donate call 233-5600 ext. 2239. –Kathy Burt, PE Dept. Chair

    Who’s going to the Man Camp tonight? And the Wahine Football Clinic tomorrow night?

  66. Randy August 24, 2010 8:54 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

    I think the Hawaii would be a perfect fit for the Big West. I would imagine that it would be Shoji’s choice as well. But can UH make it as a football independent? It would take some work, but I think it’s possible. As far as scheduling goes, play BYU, Army, Navy, UNLV, three PAC 10 schools, an FCS school, and complete the schedule with the rest of the disbanded WAC every year. That should cover it. 🙂

  67. Andy August 24, 2010 8:58 am

    TSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII why cant you put some more pictures or videos up of whats going on in the practices, where are the updates on the way the team is coming together……..uh fans like myself are hungry and have no info please help/

  68. koakane™ August 24, 2010 9:02 am

    helllooo Ronnie howww youuuuuuuuuuuuuu. hello’s to the loCal tsaiko’s and tsaikette’s

    morning again all, yes play nice to those who play nice back but f’um to all that shafted UH. please excuse the french but enough is enough and time to call it as it is.

    sending out congrats to wahine soccer team winning their tourny, continued success to da team. how to start out the 20-11 season and setting example for others to follow.

    sending mana out to the wahine vball and warrior fball teams.

  69. Da Punchbowl Kid August 24, 2010 9:02 am

    At least we know where El Ferd sits as regards this mornings topic of discussion.

    “WAC needs to hold defectors accountable for their treason”


    A good read. I wonder why other legal action isn’t being to taken against the BCS for causing all of this and against the NCAA for allowing it.

  70. Da Punchbowl Kid August 24, 2010 9:05 am

    Hey Doc –

    We’re off topic here, but did ya see this? Great news!


  71. GRM August 24, 2010 9:06 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  72. Coconutchaser August 24, 2010 9:10 am

    Andy, I AGREE!!!!!! More on how the Warriors are doing? For the freshman, What was their “dance studio” experience with the Seniors like..how are you getting acclamated to college life? How do you compare your college football practices with that of your high school football practices? For the returning Warriors, What are your thoughts on this years team, was the coaching realignment an improvement? What did you learn from last year to make yourself better this year? What do the Warriors do in their not so “spare time”? How is the team coming together? etc. etc. etc. etc.

  73. Last Call August 24, 2010 9:16 am

    Utah State officials had been hinting for several days that they were talking to the MWC again. We all appreciate what they did first time around but this time I for one would not blame them if they acepted on an invite to the MWC if it comes.

  74. chawan_cut August 24, 2010 9:19 am

    new student ticket policy that will take effect on 09/23. hope the students turn out!


  75. Pomai August 24, 2010 9:22 am

    What about merging the Big West and the remaining WAC an talk BYwhoo to join all sports and keep their own tv gig?

  76. Glenn August 24, 2010 9:23 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

    Yep. And football too!

  77. Pomai August 24, 2010 9:24 am

    UH vs USC Home opener

    0    –    66    roysan16

    2    –    0    OldDiver

    21    –    17    HNL

    21    –    14    gigi

    24    –    20    jm2375

    24    –    28    NCAA

    24    –    17    RedZone

    24    –    21    LizKauai

    25    –    24    A-House

    27    –    24    Steve

    30    –    28    wafan

    30    –    47    Dennis Halloran

    30    –    58    Pride

    31    –    10    tom mui

    33    –    30    MP

    35    –    21    Pomai

    35    –    31    DPK

    38    –    21    G (China)

    38    –    24    chopsueyboy

    41    –    31    Michigan Warrior

    42    –    35    TChahng

    45    –    34    greenthumb

    48    –    28    protector

    56    –    14    d1shima

    56    –    13    Kekoa

    62    –    24    Ipu Man

  78. d1島 August 24, 2010 9:35 am

    While Hawaii may be looking at the Big West, BY-Who would seem to be a pretty good fit for the private, religiously-oriented schools of the WCC. U. of Denver (Methodist founding) may be a potential travel partner.

    If BYU goes independent in football and doesn’t want to join a six-school Western Athletic Conference for basketball and other sports, then perhaps BYU and non-football University of Denver could make it eight.

    DU has made no secret of seeking a league home outside the geographically challenging Sun Belt Conference. Likewise, WAC commissioner Karl Benson said on his conference call last week he’s acknowledged past interest from DU as a non-football member.

    The immediate priority for the WAC is growing its football membership in the wake of losing Fresno State and Nevada to the MWC.

    About the only other place for BYU to look for its remaining sports menu is the Gonzaga-owned West Coast Conference. There are eight schools in the league comprised of religious-affiliated universities. If BYU goes in, DU could be a logical travel partner.

  79. Nate Hara August 24, 2010 9:37 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  80. Nate Hara August 24, 2010 9:39 am

    Is the Big West D1A or D1AA?

  81. SteveM August 24, 2010 9:46 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Updated my page with Ronnie’s LoCal tailgate call and got Tom Mui and chopsueyboy down as probable for attending the Man-Fan clinic tonight. WassupDoc for the Women’s clinic tomorrow… any one else attending?

  82. d1島 August 24, 2010 9:46 am

    Jason Eborn from the Deseret News just posted this on his blog:

    I’ve received a few requests for details on the buyout contract agreed to and/or signed by the eight members of the WAC. All eight verbally agreed to sign it, but Nevada’s president did not.

    Here’s the information provided by my source from the early draft.

    • Upon agreement of the conditions of this MOU, WAC members and BYU will enter into a contract that prohibits any current WAC member school and BYU from joining any other conference during the 1st 5 years of the agreement; or joining any new athletic conference during the 1st 5 years of the agreement. Penalty for departing within the 1st 5 years will be $5 million. However, any WAC school or BYU would be permitted to join a conference that currently has automatic access for its champion into the BCS without penalty; i.e Pac 10 or Big 12. In addition, La Tech would not be bound by this provision should it elect to join another conference. Should BYU or any WAC member leave the WAC for a BCS conference this contract would be terminated for the rest of the parties. [If (i) any current member of the WAC leaves the conference (with the exception of La Tech), whether to join a BCS AQ conference or by exercising the buy-out provision, or if (ii) any new member joins the WAC, BYU has the option, at its sole discretion, to terminate the agreement without any buy-out penalty.]

  83. Ronnie August 24, 2010 9:48 am

    Hey koakane! How you?!

  84. d1島 August 24, 2010 9:50 am

    It says if anyone leaves for a BCS Conference, the contract terminates; MWC is not a BCS conference….


  85. d1島 August 24, 2010 9:51 am

    …definitely going Tell Ma now!

  86. d1島 August 24, 2010 9:51 am

    Hey Ronnie!


  87. Pride. August 24, 2010 9:58 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  88. gigi-hawaii August 24, 2010 10:01 am

    SteveM, hubby and I were thinking of attending the football clinics, but now have other plans. Shoots! Too busy! Anyway, I did attend the 1st clinic.

  89. innocent observer August 24, 2010 10:02 am

    agree with your assessment. if UH got an invite, I am sure they would have done the same as Fresno and nevada. Be realistic, cannot cry over split milk, save time, effort and money to move forward instead of trying to be vindictive. College sports is an economic enterprise, cannot fault schools wanted to better their economic viability. The fault lies with the leadership of the conference.

  90. al August 24, 2010 10:04 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  91. Slugger August 24, 2010 10:08 am

    Great catch of the day at practice: Royce Pollard catching a pass from Moniz (I think) almost one-handed, leaping forward and landing on his back. Yay!!! Touchdown!

  92. rajah August 24, 2010 10:09 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  93. J August 24, 2010 10:11 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  94. curveball August 24, 2010 10:13 am

    click my name for an interesting story out of Oregon

    At least we have not had this happen yet………

  95. I already have that autographed placard commerating Dave Shoji’s 1000th win. I was so glad to be there in the 7th row to witness one of the most historic nights in UH history!

    With that being said….

    I am indeed ready for Rainbow Wahine volleyball!!!!!!!!!!!!

  96. Ronnie August 24, 2010 10:15 am

    Hi d1! I hear Thursday is the new Saturday. 😉

  97. Ronnie August 24, 2010 10:17 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  98. al August 24, 2010 10:19 am

    yup, i am looking forward to wahine vb. wanna see how the two new frosh do. they beat out a bunch of others to get the start this friday.

    will blondes have more fun?

  99. RoyGBivs [Terence Twk Wong] August 24, 2010 10:20 am

    #98!! morning….

  100. RoyGBivs [Terence Twk Wong] August 24, 2010 10:21 am

    ha #99

  101. Ronnie August 24, 2010 10:21 am

    I talked my family into going to Vegas for the WAC Championship this year –

    I used the old “this way no one has to cook for Thanksgiving AND we get to watch Na Wahine win the WAC championship!” argument.

    My dad said, “What if they don’t make it to the Championship?” My dad is sooooo funny!

  102. al August 24, 2010 10:21 am

    in a never say die battle thursday…45-35.

  103. RoyGBivs [Terence Twk Wong] August 24, 2010 10:22 am

    ST – i agree. let’s move on…. if no one wants to play with you, find some new friends that would like to!

  104. al August 24, 2010 10:23 am

    slugger…what is an “almost one-handed” catch?

    so it was a two-handed catch since almost is not.

  105. Kekoa (iPhone) August 24, 2010 10:31 am

    D-1 ~ I copy code word *Tell Ma* and will comply.

  106. (Jesse) James August 24, 2010 10:33 am

    Okay gang…posting this again to get us all in the football mood…video is kind of long, about 8 mins…but fun and sort of inspiring….brings back some memories….


  107. (Jesse) James August 24, 2010 10:36 am

    al..#98…I’ll let you know in a couple of months…LOL

  108. al August 24, 2010 10:37 am

    i was wondering when the big west would be considered. it makes the most sense for all the programs.

    besides the obvious geographically concentrated locales of california making our travel more affordable we would love to have the beach, pacific, and the like on our taraflex courts once again. i suppose some travel assistance must be offered to the big west.

    baseball, softball, and basketball should welcome the big west as they offer some very good competition for all these sports and this is also our recruiting base for these programs as well.

  109. Oh man… sounds like the volleyball match against UCLA on Sunday is filling up in the stands.

  110. Unkanesson August 24, 2010 10:39 am

    Nate Hara – #80 – Big West does not compete in football, so D1A/D1AA isn’t relevant. They are considered D1 in other sports.

  111. RichfromOC August 24, 2010 10:43 am

    More and more schools are using the “hurry up” offense where no huddle is used and the play is called from the bench while the offense is at the line of scrimmage. The reason being, it throws off the defense and the proper personnel cannot be inserted into the game. Does anyone know if we are experimenting with this as well or is this “confidential?”. Thanks.

  112. al August 24, 2010 10:45 am

    (j)/j…you got one extra helmet for me? no need pads and i’ll go barefooted. that just made me feel like going out and hitting someone. maybe one skinny wide receiver coming across the middle.


    okay, one snap and clear. now i am ready for the tailgater. hahaha.

  113. (Jesse) James August 24, 2010 10:46 am

    Al…did you use helmets in your day??? I thought it was still those leather things… MWAHAHAHHAHHAAHAHA j/k

  114. Unkanesson August 24, 2010 10:48 am


    Been struggling with this — Heart says 42-20 UH, Brain says 42-20 SC. For this poll, I’ll go with Heart! Moniz and our stable of receivers tear up the young SC secondary, keeping the SC offense on the sidelines.

    UH 42, USC 20.


  115. gigi-hawaii August 24, 2010 10:49 am

    #106 James,

    thanks for the great video! Liked the music, too.

  116. Slugger August 24, 2010 10:50 am


    As Royce was in the air falling backwards, he caught the ball one-handed and pulled it in…didn’t have control with one hand…and the crowd went wild!!!

  117. HawaiiMongoose August 24, 2010 10:52 am

    Re #75, Pomai that’s a really neat idea, it could work well for all parties. By combining 6 remaining WAC schools, 9 Big West schools, and BYU, you end up with a 16-member conference for non-football sports. To minimize travel, they could be divided into two 8-team divisions; Hawaii and the 7 Big West conferences in southern California would make up one division, and SJSU, Pacific, UC Davis, Idaho, Utah State, BYU, NMSU, and LaTech would make up the other.

    For football, the two Big West FCS schools that play football (UC Davis and Cal Poly) would move up to the FBS level to give the conference the required 8 football-playing members to retain FBS status.

    If and when LaTech left the new combined conference, they could be replaced with Montana or Sacramento State.

  118. The Big West BETTER be considered. Wahine softball is lost in all the WCC talk as the WCC does NOT field women’s softball and water polo, but the Rainbow Wahine water polo team participates in the MPSF.

    The Big West has all of UH’s sports (sans football of course).

    For softball, another possibility lies in the Pacific Coast Softball Conference and it is a D1 conference that fields teams like Loyola Marymont and one of the OOC opponents for the Wahine last season in Seattle University.

  119. HawaiiMongoose August 24, 2010 10:53 am

    In #117 third sentence, “conferences” should be “conference schools”.

  120. wow lau lau August 24, 2010 10:56 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  121. D0ug18 August 24, 2010 10:56 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

    Yes I am!!

  122. Manoa Mist August 24, 2010 11:03 am

    There’s a line in a Steve Miller Band song “The Boys Are Back in Town.” It goes “If the chick don’t want to know, forget her.” Been the philosophy of my life, and I’d say it could be the WAC’s philosophy too except for one thing: there will always be other chicks. But we be running out of DI schools to invite.

  123. haroldwah August 24, 2010 11:04 am

    The boys are back in town=Thin Lizzy

  124. Mad Dog August 24, 2010 11:06 am

    With Utah State begging to get into the MWC and Houston as a possibility, doesn’t the MWC appear to be going in the direction of the old WAC before the MWC split?

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  126. Mike August 24, 2010 11:16 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  127. SailorBlue August 24, 2010 11:19 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

    I sure am…

  128. Kamaaina94547 August 24, 2010 11:20 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  129. truefan August 24, 2010 11:31 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  130. chawan_cut August 24, 2010 11:33 am

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  131. HawaiiMongoose August 24, 2010 11:37 am

    Re #117, an interesting bit of trivia: all six remaining WAC schools have been members of the Big West in the past for at least one sport.

  132. Calvin from Kona August 24, 2010 11:50 am

    are you ready for some Volleyball?

  133. Steve August 24, 2010 11:58 am


  134. Steve August 24, 2010 12:02 pm

    3 more days and counting down.

  135. Garret (traveling) August 24, 2010 12:15 pm

    Report that says that Fresno and Nevada will join the MWC in 2011, not 2012!

    University sources tell KMJ sports they will leave the WAC after this season, and begin their membership in the MWC in the fall of 2011.

  136. Buffoman August 24, 2010 12:23 pm

    Maybe the reason why MWC is not openly accepting USU is that they may be afraid that with USU leaving, they, the MWC could be viewed as “harming the other entities” through their action. With 6 left, the WAC is not dead, with 5, turn off the life support system, tey’re dead. At that point, you have some real pi__ed off folks who did not have anything to loose by suing the heck out of any moving thing associated with the MWC, to the point where even if they (WAC remainders) lost, they cripple the MWC by forcing stays in the court system for a long enough period to possibly hurt their ambitions to secure that AQ status.

    Someone made reference to a woman in a song in a previous message. I agree on one thing in that there is nothing more dangerous than an angry woman who has felt betrayed (Tiger Woods?). WAC may stand for Woman Ain’t Caring if they’re kicked one more time.

  137. gigi-hawaii August 24, 2010 12:23 pm

    Garret, terrible for UH and JD, but not surprising.

  138. jm2375 August 24, 2010 12:28 pm

    Howzit Tsai-kos!



    GO WAIPIO! They’ll play Georgia again tomorrow 10am HST.

  139. Steve August 24, 2010 12:35 pm


    Waipio plays Ohio in an elimination game tomorrow at 10AM HST. Winner plays Georgia on Thursday.

  140. Eric August 24, 2010 12:37 pm

    ARE YOU READY FOR SOME VOLLEYBALL!!!! Dave Shoji is a personal hero of mine.

    On a better note…COUNTDOWN TO GAMEDAY BABY! trojans are goin down.

  141. Unkanesson August 24, 2010 12:42 pm

    “Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned.”

    William Congreve, “The Mourning Bride”

  142. NYUH August 24, 2010 12:50 pm

    Hawaii takes it 47-42

    Positive report on the Warriors.


  143. Na Koa Mike August 24, 2010 12:53 pm

    The Na Koa Lunch Report for 8/23 is now up: http://www.nakoa.org

  144. jm2375 August 24, 2010 12:55 pm

    #139 – 😳 my bad…

  145. Steve August 24, 2010 12:56 pm


    That is ok, it can get a little confusing.

  146. Ken August 24, 2010 1:03 pm

    Hello All.

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  147. Unkanesson August 24, 2010 1:05 pm

    #142 – always nice to read positive posts like this, though it points up the need for improvement in our local education standards, or the value of editors in published writing (e.g.: “You bare the weight of a entire state…”). Got a good chuckle out of that one.

  148. Shoko August 24, 2010 1:06 pm

    Think jm2375 was just being optimistic. 😉

  149. localboy18 August 24, 2010 1:08 pm

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  150. localboy18 August 24, 2010 1:08 pm

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  151. Shoko August 24, 2010 1:11 pm


    Bleacher report articles such as the one NYUH referenced is by a fan. They are not journalist, per se, but just people who want to submit an opinion.

  152. A-House August 24, 2010 1:15 pm

    Analysis of WAC:

    Whether UH prevails in its attempts to keep the WAC together, it appears forces are in the works, USU discussions in joining the MWC and LaTech wanting to be with C-USA, will doom the WAC unless it invites schools now!

    WAC should immediatley begin contacting interested parties and ask them to start the process of moving up to D-1A status with the stipulation that the WAC must admit them to the conference when the moritorium ends or contact D-1A schools to join the WAC with the ultimate goal of having 12 – 16 schools to form 2 divisions for football with a conference championship game. THERE HAS TO BE A PLAN.

    If the WAC is unwilling to work along this line of thought, UH should advise the WAC that they will seek independent status ( providing that UH does its own due diligence in indy status and moving all its other sports to another conference ) as soon as everything is in place – which could take 6-months to a year.

    One positive factor is that the $5 million exit fee is “history”. The “movers and shakers” downtown can help fund the transition to indy status with their $$ and contacts ( ok, who owes them favors, really big favors!)

    If Hinshaw and Donovan are holding unto tiny threads with nothing in writing, a plan, then they should be held accountable for all that transpires form 8/24/2010.

  153. Pomai August 24, 2010 1:21 pm

    The more I think about it the more I like the idea, also Bywhoo would like it because they get to keep their TV rights plus they would have some good out of conference teams to schedule. I wonder if JD is looking into this, also like Kazz said it fits our other sports well. New conference “Big WAC”

  154. A-House August 24, 2010 1:28 pm

    O-Line not set yet! Are they that good or that bad? What is the best combo in working together? Hope Coach Shaw puts a lot of emphasis on cohesion!

  155. Last I heard the WAC presidents vote on FSU and UNR if they were to leave the WAC for the 2011 fall and 2012 spring seasons.

    I cannot see WHY the WAC majority would vote to boot FSU and UNR so quickly… unless something is a-foot?

  156. al August 24, 2010 1:37 pm

    unless by some miracle that the hawaii warriors are picked up by the mwc or some new blood is intravenously introduced in the wac, we will become an independent football program.

    obviously, securing a conference to park the non-football sports is utmost and foremost. the big west does appear to be a nice place for us if they will have us. the big if for the big west marriage for all intents and purposes lie with our being able to offer some travel incentives. we actually have noteworthy non-football athletic programs that could boost a mid-major conference such as the big west.

    the success of such a departure (from trying to salvage the wac and our co-existence with them) is predicated by first securing a conference for all sports sans football. we may loose money overall in this effort with lucrative travel assistance.

    because baseball and volleyball hold their own and may provide some positive revenues. the men’s basketball program holds one key to our financial solvency. but, no matter what it is the warrior football program’s success in the win column and the revenues that follow that will still make or break our athletic’s program.

    bringing in new converted lower tiered football programs only invites trouble. it weakens the wac product and who’s to say that the next boise state doesn’t use this conference as a stepping stone again. (the texas schools for example)

    we will need to depend upon independency. with a lot of hard work an independent schedule is not impossible. many will want to play us for recruiting bragging rights.

    …nuff said.

  157. Shoko August 24, 2010 1:41 pm

    Yep, independent is the only way. Does anyone want to go through this again? I sure don’t.

  158. al August 24, 2010 1:44 pm

    ahouse…all it will take is one more wac team leaving the fold and the wac is whacked. out of the ball park say “good night my love…1969 anka”.

  159. UH Warrior Football as an independent is appearing more and more like the reality.

    Too many rumors, too much speculation of the same, even from mainland media claiming “sources”.

    Also looks like the Big West Conference as a new home for all other UH sports seems like the eventual reality with the same general consensus across the country. Also, someone pointed out that while there are a lot of Utah State rumors to the MWC leaking out of Utah, there are some “leaks” of UH’s talks with the Big West out of Manoa.

    I can live with this as I have no say in the matter as for me as a fan, a supporter, and an “officer” of a newly formed UH booster club, it ultimately means survival.

  160. RE: future UH recruits and current verbal commits.

    For the non football sports, I don’t really see much of a change with how this effects future recruits or curent verbal commitments.

    For the recruits of Wahine volleyball, the previous and current WAC outlook wasn’t that great as a volleyball conference and the same can be said for Wahine softball. For softball, you only really had Fresno State and they are in somewhat of a decline considering Margie Wright’s old ways and methods. For volleyball, you kind of had NMSU, but really… c’mon!

    I remain ignorant on the matters of men’s basketball and baseball as I do hear the Big West is a step up in baseball (not sure of the teams actually in the Big West).

  161. PONO August 24, 2010 1:52 pm

    Here are the school that comprise the Big West:

    Cal Poly Pomona

    Cal State Fullerton

    Cal State Long Beach

    Cal State Northridge

    UC Davis

    UC Irvine

    UC Riverside

    U of Pacific

    UC Santa Barbara

  162. PONO August 24, 2010 1:53 pm

    Long Beach, Fullerton and Irvine are great baseball school and would definitely be a step up from the WAC.

  163. Stephen Tsai August 24, 2010 1:55 pm

    Whoa. I was here.

    Then I lost the blog.

    Now I’m back.


  164. gigi-hawaii August 24, 2010 1:58 pm

    ST, sometimes I get an ERROR message and lose the blog. I usually have to wait 1 hour before I can get back on. How come?

  165. A-House August 24, 2010 1:59 pm


    We are good to go! Picked up our packet from Panda today and will be in touch via email!

    Will be good to see you again.

  166. On a personal note, I finally got my new AWESOME phone and moved to a better job situation and before I could even enjoy it.. this madness in the WAC happens threatening the way of life for die hard UH fans…

    Life is crazy.

  167. ST,

    I figured it out. When I type in the blog url I get the 404 message, I have to actually go through the Star Advertiser site to get here.

  168. Unkanesson August 24, 2010 2:02 pm


    I understand the distinction, but I still deplore that our kids are leaving our schools with such poor basic writing (especially spelling and grammar) skills, as well as trends in “media” that are making editors (and, indeed, journalists) endangered species. I’m not talking about brief posts in a blog like this, but more lengthy pieces like that one (in which the writer is given the title “Correspondent” in the by-line).

  169. Buffoman August 24, 2010 2:03 pm

    IF UH goes independent this is what they could do to help their scheduling cause. Work with ESPN and make the Hawaii Bowl a part of the equation. Like they were going to do with BYU, the team with the best record will get first shot at the Hawaii Bowl. Only those who “sign up” and include in the document, the promise to play home and home negotiated games would have this. So, while it is true that Navy and Army have the auto matic to the Liberty, what if both have winning records but one is a just a game less than the other but better than UH, BYU and whoever else (of the independents).

    This may help scheduling. Just a suggestion. I’m sure the travel issue would be brought up as to why it is not a good enough carrot. But hey, what else is there?

  170. Not an Expert August 24, 2010 2:04 pm


    Keep the faith and keep the integrity.

    Although the MWC commissioner has swung the tables and from what has transpired I believe that honesty and integrity will eventually be the winner whomever follows certain life rules, religious rules or rules of the universe.

    BYU leaders think and pray, realize that you were not jeopardizing the MWC existence and wanted to increase your revenues and stature by going independent. That was viable for BYU but not what the MWC wanted. Thus you looked at avenues and was setting things in motion for that to happen and help the overall teams in the WAC and yourself. The MWC would still have managed to survive and plot their continued poaching and probably would have looked at C-USA to do so. The fox just waiting to poach some chickens when the opportunity arises. C-USA don’t ever let your guard down for Thompson will do anything in his power to make the MWC AQ status.

    If BYU realizes the type of leadership they are following they know by virtue of goodness and honesty they will become better off to move and pave a new path. It is time BYU took the reins away from Thompson’s agenda and move on their plan. Do so and the goodness of being honest and trustworthy will make your dreams come to fruition. New doors will open and you will find many schools will assist you because this will show them the opportunity to maybe follow in BYU’s footsteps.

    However the most important reason is not to injure the WAC schools who are at the mercy of what Thompson has done. It is dire if you look at the current WAC situation and with your going ahead and assisting the weak, I believe your virtue and honesty will be shined upon more and the respect will be even greater for BYU.

    Just my take and belief.

  171. madeinhawaii August 24, 2010 2:15 pm

    For UH to go independent, I think, it will have to raise it’s season ticket prices again… the base prices may have to double.. the contribution/donation end may remain fixed. They will need to attract bigger name programs to sell the empty seats and get more corporate sponsors. For that, they will need $$. I suspect that UH will lose a good number of season ticket holders at first, but if they can provide quality opponents, they will get them back and more.

  172. madeinhawaii August 24, 2010 2:15 pm

    The student activity fee will look like a bargain basement bonanza.

  173. posted on the scout network from a person claiming to be a UCSB fan

    I posted a few days ago that there was no way UH was going to the WCC as many of you fans hoped. The BWC is better fit for UH. As a UCSB fan I see UH as a positive but I’d have to see the impact of the significant travel costs to see if its truely worthwhile.

    Benefits to the BW, what UH brings to the table:

    1. UH brings the # of men’s teams playing Volleyball to 6 so the league could add add men’s vb and gain an auto bid to the NCAA tourney. Currently UH and the other five schools (UOP, UCSB, LB, CSUN & UCI) all play the MPSF.

    2. UH would become the strongest team in one of our core sports, women’s vb. Unfortunately, the BW has been ailing of late being overtaken by all the BCS programs which have invested so much into the sport. Still have some decent teams but is a far cry from 15 years ago when NCs were being won.

    3. UH good in softball, another sport the BW is decent at.

    4. A fun trip for fans once a year to see their team, a nice diversion for the student athletes too.

    Drawbacks to Hawaii:

    1. Travel costs (of course)

    2. Outside of volleyball, pretty mediocre sports program

    3. After a nice run under Riley Wallace men’s hoops is pretty weak

    4. No men’s soccer, another focus sport for the BW.

    Overall, as a fan, I would like to see UH in the BWC but with the stipulation that there is a minimum time comittment so that UH would have to pay a substantial buy-out fee if they get an offer to jump ship. I don’t want to see the BW used as a temporary landing spot for all the WAC cast-offs. The BW got screwed over 10 years ago by schools that were football focused. It was smart of the conference to get rid of football altogether and get focused on stability and controling costs. The conference has become stable, albeit somewhat nondescript. UH is welcome and I get that they would jump to the Mtn West as soon as an invite came but if it happens within 5 years, they would need to pay a buy-out to the BW.

  174. expat August 24, 2010 2:19 pm

    There are also a few schools that participate in certain WAC sports — like Sac State in Baseball & Gymnastics. Fullerton competes in Gymnastics as does Southern Utab. Northern AZ does swimming & diving.

    All the stuff that is going on has an effect on these programs too.

    Utah State may ultimately go to the MWC and LaTech to C-USA, but if that happens do SJSU, NMSU, and Idaho also go indy? Even if NMSU football dropped back down to FCS, what about their other programs? They will still need a conference for them. Idaho surely does not want to drop back down. I wonder if Spud State wants to move up?

    JD must be spending most of the working day on the phone because no doubt everyone is scrambling right now.

    The problem with LaTech moving to C-USA is that they are already at 12 members. If Houston bolted for the MWC then maybe there is room. But why would Houston want to do that? It seems like C-USA is pretty well situated right now. Their travel gets more difficult and more expensive in the MWC. Maybe there is more money potential being in the MWC, but some of that has yet to be negotiated, right? The West division of C-USA is four texas teams and one each in LA and OK. Even if Houston bolted, why would C-USA take LaTech over say North Texas, or even NMSU, which is right down the road from UTEP?

  175. homey ۩ August 24, 2010 2:23 pm

    No set o-line huh?

    oh oh.

    Go Wahine!

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  176. There is a part of me that feels horrible for NMSU and SJSU, BUT…

    They are on the continental US and they don’t have geography working against them as it seems to be a popular excuse.

    I’ll worry about the University of Hawai’i for now and when we get situated, I’ll worry about the others.

  177. Gonzo August 24, 2010 2:30 pm

    If the WAC disintegrates, do Fresno and Nevada still have to pay the exit fee? Does the lawsuit still happen?

    If the WAC stays together but for whatever reason Hawaii leaves before the penalty is paid (or a settlement is reached) I would imagine we aren’t entitled to any of that money.

  178. d1島 August 24, 2010 2:34 pm

    Did Someone call for a shishi break for the OL starters to be named?

    Indecision Kills…

  179. d1島 August 24, 2010 2:35 pm

    Told Ma….nap time.

  180. homey ۩ August 24, 2010 2:38 pm

    Technique-wise, did the o-line improve during fall camp? If not…oh oh.

  181. RupertDaStupert August 24, 2010 3:04 pm

    I don’t post much as I am a lurker. I have nothing against the WAC commisioner. But I observed he is big in talk and slow in action. If we don’t stop grumbling about the three defectors and start looking for replacements immediately, I mean immediately, Hawaii will hurt the most out of this. If La Tech defects soon, as I know they want to, we’re down to 5 teams. The rest of the 4 will request if not outright ask Hawaii to leave the WAC. The 4 teams cannot affford the expensive travel trips Hawaii causes and they will not want Hawaii as they will see us as burdens. Mr. Benson should now, right now get a Div 2, I mean 2-3 Div 2 teams to join us. Portland State and Weber State may not sound attractive but hey, under Mouse Davis, Portland State kind of shook the football world. Weber State always fields good football teams. Stop waiting for a Div 1 or two Div 1 teams to defect to the WAC. No one wants to come here. Before La Tech takes off, Mr. Benson, do something now!!!!!!! Look what jumping from Div 2 to Div 1 did for Boise State. Made them better. If Mr. Benson doesn’t act soon, the WAC may fold. Or have to fold. I am not a sport expert. Just my observation. All you regular bloggers out there are much much more intelligent than I am and I’m sure will have better answers than I have. Book em Gibbo!

  182. mctruck August 24, 2010 3:19 pm

    As a fan, I believe/favor the Big West alignment in all sports and independent in fb.

    So far everythings turned out like musical chairs…..I think UH’s brain-thrust have got to put an urgency to these issues so we can lay-it-2-rest and move on….it’s getting too distracting to the entire UH athletic program.

  183. Bstunna2002 August 24, 2010 3:22 pm

    Can someone post the info on the camp tonight…thanks

  184. mctruck August 24, 2010 3:25 pm

    Further, I like the fact as mentioned before that the BW schools are all in CA, so there’s a big plus in cutting down on travel expenses. Hope UH makes the window of opportunity work in their favor.

  185. Committed Road Warrior August 24, 2010 3:31 pm

    A-House #165:

    Excellent to hear that! It’ll be great to see you all again.

  186. McTruck,

    The Big West scene in Cali could definitely has some sort of positive effect on our programs that seek the saturated Cali pipline for volleyball, softball, and baseball talent.

  187. whitey August 24, 2010 3:44 pm

    yes, we do have conference problems, but we still are in a conference. Imagine if you are Utah or Colorado, who were invited to the PAC 10, but is not guaranteed anything until the Presidnets/Chancellors of the PAC 10 vote on Oct 21st. Right now, there is a campaign to deny entry and it is being led by former chancellor of UCLA. Colorado has major problems wtih the exit fees fromt he Big 12 and it could cost them as much as $9.5-14 mil. Not sure about Utah, but they probably have to pay an exit fee also. But the huge thing is what if you are denied entry on Oct 21st. What are you going to do??? This is reality and not just something to think about.

  188. whitey August 24, 2010 3:50 pm

    Keeping and building the WAC is more important than going independent. UH athletics moved to big time because of the WAC, not by being independent. Why go backwards?? Sure, we have major problems right now, but UH is the leader of the WAC and as the leader, it should exert itself to remake the WAC. If your football dream is to play in the big time, independency for UH will relegate them to nothing more than the Aloha Bowl. No big time bowl, period.

  189. Unkanesson August 24, 2010 3:50 pm

    To those who clamor for the powers-that-be to do something NOW, I say this:

    Just because you aren’t hearing any news, that doesn’t mean they aren’t doing anything. You can be certain that JD and the UH administrators, and Benson and the rest of the WAC AD’s and administrators, are burning up the phone and email lines, busting their okoles trying to come up with the best possible solution(s) for all concerned. I’m just as anxious to see what the resolution turns out to be. I think we all need to understand that the process is playing itself out at its own pace, and while we can exchange our various creative suggestions and ideas, there’s no point in lashing out at the people who are actually doing the work behind the scenes.

  190. whitey August 24, 2010 3:57 pm

    One of the things I would like to see is that all the WAC schools agree to field the same men and women sports for WAC play. Any other sports they may have would be played in another conference. If football and basketball are the 2 men sports, that means that the women program would have maybe 5-6 sports which would be equivalent to the men’s scholarship. Whatever sports is selected, all WAC schools will field a team for that designated WAC sport.

  191. whitey August 24, 2010 4:04 pm

    Unkanesson, very good point about the administration and WAC office. Things may look bleak, but my hope is that when someone offers to play the WAC teams in other sports and they being from a devout religious school, I assume they they will not lie or try to bs you. True, there may be no legal grounds, but the difference here is that for someone who requires religion to be part of their school, should be accountable for what they say. Just my take on this.

  192. RupertDaStupert August 24, 2010 4:05 pm

    Everyone of your comments have great merit. Colorado and Utah have one advantage over Hawaii. Rich, great benefactors to donate tons of money to their sports funds. Hawaii doesn’t have that. We’re quite poor. If La Tech defects and the WAC asks us to leave, we’re too poor to have any leverage to make a big fix. The Big West is a good idea. Not the name value of the Pac 10, Mountain West, or Conference USA but at least we’re in a conference. NOw please don’t throw dirt on me but here’s a real crazy idea. Maybe getting UH Hilo Hawaii, or Chaminade, or Hawaii Pacific, or BYU-Laie to field a football team (I believe all already have baseball and basketball teams). There’s plenty of local talent some heading for Div 1 and 2 teams stateside that may stay home. I believe UH Hilo Hawaii has a stadium. And get them into the WAC. Or Jim Donovan create our own conference. He is a genius and if anyone can do it, he can. UH Manoa, UH Hilo, Portland State, Weber State, Invite some of the Big West teams to join the new conference. Pacific West Conference or PWC. Jim Donovan becomes the PWC commissioner. Or Jim Donovan remains UH athletic director and Bob Wagner or retired Dick Tomey becomes PWC commissioner. Please don’t throw dirt. I am already nuts! Just crazy ideas. But we need to do something. We’re too poor to buy our way into another conference. Book em Gibbo.

  193. whitey August 24, 2010 4:06 pm

    dang, talking about religion may have been in back of my mind cause was at the golf shop and the new Ping club is called “Faith”. Sheesh, brain lock.

  194. HNL August 24, 2010 4:07 pm

    I think we should stay in the wac, and try to keep it together much as possible.

    1. the buy out money from Fresno and Nevada will help.

    2. we have a hard enough time getting nonconference games as it is now we would have to find 7 more.

    3. When we start scheduling so called body bag games and winning them it will be even harder to get them, not to mention geting them to come here.

    There is security in the wac no matter how it’s perceived right now.

  195. whitey August 24, 2010 4:08 pm

    Rup, you neva go to the same golf shop as me, did you???? hahahahaaaaa

  196. whitey August 24, 2010 4:11 pm

    Finacially, we should play those away $1mil games. What we get to lose??? We not recognized as a major player, so if you want to become one, take the lumps or dish em out and then going get teams that no like play you because you are too good.

  197. whitey August 24, 2010 4:12 pm

    now, need to recharge with some pm refreshments

  198. haka August 24, 2010 4:22 pm

    How ’bout dem bumbuchas?

    Austin Hansen 6-4 305 Jr. LT

    Brysen Ginlack 6-2 310 Sr. LG

    Brett Leonard 6-5 310 Jr. C

    Adrian Thomas 6-6 305 Sr. RG

    Laupepa Letuli 6-4 325 Sr. RT

    Play with the heart of a Warrior!

    How ’bout dem Wahine?

    Kanani Danielson OH 5-10 Jr.

    MIchelle Waber OH 6-3 Fr.

    Chanteal Satele OH 5-10 Jr.

    Brittany Hewitt M 6-3 So.

    Emily Hartong M 6-2 Fr.

    Dani Mafua S 5-10 Sr

    Elizabeth Ka‘aihue L 5-8 Sr.

    Play with the heart of a Wahine!

    Congrats to 5 Wahine commits on AVCA watch list

    Jane Croson (6-0 OH)

    Monica Stauber (5-8 S)

    Jade Vorster (6-4 MB/RS)

    Kalei Adolpho (6-1 MB)

    Ginger Long (5-11 OH).

    Also on the list is PUnahou setter Alexandra Santi.

  199. Last Call August 24, 2010 4:23 pm

    Staying in the WAC is going backwards. I believe this will be the third time the WAC has gone backwards since 1979 and most of us are sick of helping the WAC rebuild.

  200. Anfield August 24, 2010 4:25 pm

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  201. RupertDaStupert August 24, 2010 4:26 pm

    What is golf Whitey? LOL. I never played a regulation game. Good sport just kidding. If anyone thinks hitting 200-300 yard drives are easy, newcomers try it. Not easy. It takes talent and athletic ability. Just like a college pitcher throwing a 80 mph fastball. not easy. 90 mph fastball? Harder. God given talent. I worry about the WAC even though some of you say we should stay there. My concern is the big defection by Byu, Utah, Wyoming etc way back when left Hawaii in the dark. None of them wanted Hawaii to tag along. My question is we may want the WAC but will the WAC want us? More defections, not one conference asked us to join them. No one ever will. And the WAC may not want us either. Agreed with those of you who say we should stay in the WAC. But will the WAC want us? Not disagreeing with those who say stop criticizing the commissioner, the brain trusts of the WAC members as they may be working hard now to fix things. I hope your right. It would be wonderful! Book em Macko. Beat USC!

  202. lil's August 24, 2010 4:26 pm

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  203. whitey August 24, 2010 4:32 pm

    Rep, easy game, just ask Stretch and Ajoe. hoooooo haaaaaaa

  204. Hilo Moon August 24, 2010 4:34 pm

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  205. Momo August 24, 2010 4:45 pm

    Are you ready for some volleyball— you bet

  206. LizKauai m/ August 24, 2010 4:59 pm

    Rupert! Nice to see you here again!


    Rotary time.


  207. gigi-hawaii August 24, 2010 4:59 pm


    Hi. I remember you from several years ago. How is your personal situation these days?

  208. roysan16 August 24, 2010 5:12 pm


    I saw your response in yesterday’s post. You seemed to be angered by the satire I wrote in #115. That’s great. I couldn’t be happier. For I’m seeing first hand of what I wrote having an effect on you, especially since you introduced yourself as being a current Warrior football player. Please except the fact I wanted you to be angered. I wanted to light a fire under you, your team mates and coaches. So get that straight. Best you bottle this anger, though, and uncork it on the field in the upcoming season.

  209. Steve August 24, 2010 5:15 pm

    Hey Tsaikos, Cindy Luis’s new blog is now called volleyshots. Mainly for volleyball responses and comments.

  210. huh? August 24, 2010 5:17 pm

    Another moment of “huh?”.


    Hey if it is personal why are you baiting him to discuss it here on this very public forum?

    Have some manners!

  211. gigi-hawaii August 24, 2010 5:20 pm

    Rupert has discussed his issues here before. He is welcome here, as far as I am concerned.

  212. al August 24, 2010 5:20 pm

    whitey…call you tomw.

  213. huh? August 24, 2010 5:22 pm


    Who’s saying it is Rupert without manners. He is welcome.

    It’s why do you pry and ask of personal stuff on this forum?

  214. double huh? August 24, 2010 5:23 pm


    #211 You are so right!

  215. Wahine_Fan August 24, 2010 5:24 pm

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  216. gigi-hawaii August 24, 2010 5:24 pm

    Why don’t you mind YOUR own business? I addressed my question to Rupert, not YOU. If he does not want to respond, that is his prerogative.

  217. Pride. August 24, 2010 5:24 pm

    Gigi, in case you were wondering…I’m still hearing voices. Please don’t laugh, it isn’t funny. Oh who am I kidding, it is very funny. Gigi, are you still there? Please don’t leave now, I’m scared. I’m lonely, please don’t leave. Oh shut, up, stop yelling at me. You’re always yelling at me. Gigi are you laughing at me? I can hear that. You’re laughing at me aren’t you? Wait my mommy’s calling me. Coming mom!!! Anyway, Gigi, in case you’re wondering yes I do have problems sometimes. These voices are loud, shut up! All of you.

  218. al August 24, 2010 5:24 pm


  219. gigi-hawaii August 24, 2010 5:25 pm

    Pride, I really don’t care about YOUR problems. See a shrink!

  220. Pride. August 24, 2010 5:27 pm

    I’m sorry Gigi, I didn’t realize that you weren’t addressing me.

  221. Pride. August 24, 2010 5:30 pm

    Going down to UH. For $20.00 they are giving away the playbook.

  222. wafan August 24, 2010 5:31 pm

    Toss up. The upset Asian lady and Pride.

    Pride., watch out for the stink-eye!

  223. Glenn August 24, 2010 5:34 pm


    The offense will prevail.

    UH 49, SC 35

  224. gigi-hawaii August 24, 2010 5:34 pm

    I truly thought the WB meant we were all ohana. Three years ago, Rupert described his plight as a homeless veteran. Then he disappeared for 3 years. Now he is back. And I hope his situation has improved.

    That is all.

  225. Pride. August 24, 2010 5:36 pm

    I think her beef is with huh? and double huh?

  226. A lot can happen in a year.

    One year ago, I remember walking in the Stan Sheriff Center with a big smile on my face. It was the Rainbow Wahine vs Western Michigan on the opening night of Wahine volleyball and officially the opening night of the 2010 UH Sports Fall Season.

    I remember Jim Donovan and Virginia Hinshaw were both at Gate A greeting the fans as they poured in. I remember vividly Jim Donovan commentating on my shirt. It was a plain green UA shirt with “HAWAII” arched on the front.

    As me and my friends sat down, there was a ceremony to bless the new tera-flex floor paid for by Chevron. The blessing came in the form of two Hawaiian chants inviting all of different cultures and backgrounds to come together. I got chicken skin right there as I looked around just emersed in the pride that is always evident when the Rainbow Wahine play. There is no doubt we have the best volleyball atmosphere in the nation.

    I started to think of what the 2009 fall and 2010 spring seasons would bring. UH football was about to celebrate it’s 100th year of existance, the Warrior volleyball team had a new coach as well as the Rainbow Wahine b-ballers, etc… More and more, emotion came over me as I was just happy to be there in person to take it all in. I thought to myself then, “I love being here, I love the games, I love this university, I love this state”.

    Fast forward to last week. My world and the worlds of others got flipped upside down. As soon as we were all enjoying the pride of another NCAA Final Four appearance by the Wahine volleyball team, a WAC championship in baseball and softball, not to mention a stellar season for the Rainbow Wahine softball team, the reality of pondering the future of all our sports programs came into question like never before.

    I am NOT ashamed to say some tears of anger and frustration were shed on my behalf last week because it’s the truth. This has become such a big part of me for the past 5 years, I cannot walk with my head held too high as if nothing happened. I can only imagine what it was like for those that have put most of their lives into representing the Green and White.

    With that being said, we are coming up on another season. The dawning of a new season to celebrate the young men and women that make up our Warriors and our Rainbow Wahine is upon us

    I URGE all UH fans to join in more than ever. We will NOT go quietly into the night! We’re gonna live on!

    Warriors do not surrender without a fight.

  227. Pride. August 24, 2010 5:37 pm


    August 24th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    I truly thought the WB meant we were all ohana. Three years ago, Rupert described his plight as a homeless veteran. Then he disappeared for 3 years. Now he is back. And I hope his situation has improved.

    That is all.

    Thanks for reminding us who Rupert is. Now I remember Gigi. Yes, I hope he is better.

  228. TJ KAUAI August 24, 2010 5:38 pm

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  229. d1島 August 24, 2010 5:41 pm


  230. Ipu Man August 24, 2010 5:41 pm

    gigi, we always enjoy your input…

    You’ve got fans out there…

  231. d1島 August 24, 2010 5:43 pm

    ….some further out than others?

  232. whitey August 24, 2010 5:44 pm

    pride, i told you last night that’s what happen when the dark side merchants get hold of you and you forget everything. hahahahahaaaaa

  233. d1島 August 24, 2010 5:47 pm

    OL is not set yet….

    from Na Koa report on lunch yesterday at Willow’s

    This week they will be putting in the game plan for the USC game. USC’s front seven is as good as Georgia’s (in 2008 Sugar Bowl).

    Like homey said, “Oh oh.”

  234. Ipu Man August 24, 2010 5:50 pm

    d1shima, USC’s front 7 maybe as good as Georgia’s

    but if the Refs are fair and call the game squarely,

    then nothing to worry about…except the refs…

  235. d1島:

    August 24th, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    OL is not set yet….

    from Na Koa report on lunch yesterday at Willow’s

    This week they will be putting in the game plan for the USC game. USC’s front seven is as good as Georgia’s (in 2008 Sugar Bowl).

    Oh good. As long as the referees crack down on the off-sides, we should be ok.

  236. whitey August 24, 2010 5:56 pm

    just out of curiosity, how many students graduate with a BS/BA each year???? I am assuming that this year there is a record number of students at Manoa.

  237. whitey August 24, 2010 6:00 pm

    kazz, my man, what we going put up for the USC game?? Like what the total score or how many def plays (fumbles/int/blocked punts), etc. Biru or something like that for a future tg.

  238. Matt August 24, 2010 6:01 pm

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  239. whitey August 24, 2010 6:01 pm

    kazz, got a good one, add scores for each team, add across, then down. last digit is the winner. you pick 5 numbers from 1-0 and I get the other 5. how’s that????

  240. whitey August 24, 2010 6:04 pm

    example: UH 14 = 5

    USC 7 = 7

    Total = 12 (winning no is 2)

    green bottles vs brown bottles

  241. whitey August 24, 2010 6:06 pm

    bottles is for future tsaiko tg

  242. A-House August 24, 2010 6:13 pm

    My take on the possible legal action against Fresno St and Nevada it should be pursued as this a WAC initiated civil action for breach of contract; not an individual action by UH against both teams. Yes, UH is part of the reamining 6 schools and even if UH voted against this action, it’s still 5 – 1.

    Each school President understood and agreed to the “pact”; Nevada not signing is not going to be a cause for lesser punishment.

  243. d1島 August 24, 2010 6:16 pm

    Unit cohesion?

    Familiarity under game conditions?

    Preparedness for in-game adjustments?

    Nah. Just make Game Day Decision.

    Yup, OK…let’s rely on the refs to win the game…..

  244. whitey:

    August 24th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    kazz, my man, what we going put up for the USC game??

    We wager on the amount of LA S-M-U-G is in the air when those SC fans come to Halawa.

  245. Wendy August 24, 2010 6:24 pm

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

  246. 808ike August 24, 2010 6:43 pm

    Wassup Doc,

    Going to football clinic tomorrow night. The scenery will LOOK a lot more


  247. Curt August 24, 2010 7:12 pm

    Raider QB Update:

    – Quarterback Bruce Gradkowski will see considerable action in the last two preseason games, although Cable would not commit as to whether he would go in as No. 2 or No. 3.

    Apparently, Gradkowski is off the injury list. Really doesn’t look promising for Colt at the #4 position. If Gradkowski is back without any lingering problems, the Raiders could cut Colt loose any day now. 🙁

  248. lil.s August 24, 2010 7:12 pm

    neat little link found on the other board


  249. Bigislandkurt August 24, 2010 7:24 pm

    USC’s front seven just as good as Georgia? Can we play them with 12 players then?


  250. Curt August 24, 2010 7:27 pm


    good article–thanks.

  251. Curt August 24, 2010 7:33 pm

    All this talk about the WAC’s future is a little depressing. In retrospect, Karl Benson could’ve teamed up with ESPN to help strengthen the WAC’s position. ESPN loses when the WAC loses and disintegrates. With BYU in hand, maybe ESPN could’ve provided sufficient incentive to bring Boise, Fresno, and Nevada back…and maybe add UNLV and San Diego St. Maybe it’s still not too late to work with ESPN to help broker a deal.

  252. Curt August 24, 2010 7:38 pm

    These challenges are opportunities to excel. And boy, what a challenge it is. So lets pull together and turn this thing around.

  253. Derek August 24, 2010 7:41 pm

    Are you ready for some volleyball?

    I worry about Hawaii’s history against USC. The closest game was 21-5 when Charles White was the Heisman Trophy winner and John Robinson was the coach. Since then, it’s been only blowouts. Is this year different? I don’t know. On the plus side is that USC lost 4 games last year. To Washington, Oregon, Stanford, and Arizona. They also played close games against Oregon St. and Arizona State which they won. Maybe the rest of the Pac 10 is catchng up with USC and their overwhelming talent level has come down a little bit. Maybe they don’t have the game breakers like Reggie Bush, Dwayne Jarret, Rivers, Cushing,

    Maualuga, Leinart, Sanchez, and Palmer, etc. like they used to. No question they still have 4 and 5 star talent, but that’s on paper. Nobody at USC is projected to be a first team All American, maybe not even a second team All American. Maybe UH get chance if everything falls into place. We will have to win the turnover battle and not give up big plays. I feel good that this Hawaii team will be much better than last year. I’m concerned that Hawaii has gotten of to slow starts in previous years, but I think the coaches know that. This is a real test, but I will say that Hawaii pulls it out by a field goal in a very entertaining game, 31-28 and the guy that kicks it is Tyler Hadden. Let’s pray!

  254. Slugger August 24, 2010 7:43 pm

    Saw Coach Shaw at the Athletics complex. He said there are about 150 men in the SSC for the Man Clinic. He was on his way with the other coaches to prep hot dogs at Ching Field.

  255. Slugger August 24, 2010 7:48 pm

    Now I remember what the “Man Clinic” name reminds me of…do you remember “The Man Show”? Jimmy Kimmel and Adam Carolla

  256. jm2375 August 24, 2010 7:56 pm

    Howzit Tsai-kos!

    Topic on da Sports Animals today, besides the WAC fiasco and UH’s future, was this little beef between Disney and Time Warner cable. Agreement set to expire on 9/2. Possibly no UH-USC game for Oceanic customers? Probably they’ll agree at the last minute and everything will be hunky-dory, but, I’m glad I have Dish Network. 😀

  257. sportsbow August 24, 2010 7:57 pm

    How about C-USA for football only and play in the Big West Conference for other sports.

    On the C-USA board, so far, all the posters like the idea of having Hawaii as a football only member if Houston goes to the MWC.

    I think it can work. Middle of the schedule will be filled. It will take longer and cost more for the team to travel there but, that’s much easier to do then to fill in the middle of the schedule every year if UH decide to go Independent.

    What you folks think? Oh yeah! We’ll be in the same division with SMU if this can happen.

    LINK: http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=448849

  258. LizKauai [iMac] m/ August 24, 2010 8:04 pm

    #248- Yeah- time to pray for Colt (as if we aren’t already).

    “Bruce Gradkowski will get significant time in the last two games. This does not bode well for Colt Brennan seeing additional action.”


  259. al August 24, 2010 8:24 pm

    lizk…this is no surprise. barring another injury or either gradkowski/boller stinking it up colt will hopefully get picked up on the practice squad. sort of like the scout team. he’ll get a lot of reps then and could open some eyes then.

  260. Curt August 24, 2010 8:42 pm


    Very interesting idea. That definitely sounds better than going independent. But would the MWC raid Conf USA? I hear the commissioners are buddies. I wonder how Karl Benson and Craig Thompson got along before? Can’t be too good now that’s for sure. Thompson’s got balls. He was willing to sink a conference just to keep BYU in the fold. He’s cold.

  261. Curt August 24, 2010 8:45 pm

    Karl Benson was probably too nice. Unfortunately, he got ate up by Craig da Croc.

  262. Curt August 24, 2010 8:48 pm

    Of course, when you have friends like those in Reno and Fresno, who needs enemies?

  263. HawaiiMongoose August 24, 2010 8:52 pm

    Milton Glick and John Welty. Presidents of Nevada and Fresno State. The gentlemen who put the knife in our collective backs.

  264. Curt August 24, 2010 8:54 pm


    Did you pass the idea over to JD?

  265. Curt August 24, 2010 8:56 pm


    Yup. Those were not pats in back that we got from Glick and Welty; they’re knife wounds!

  266. al August 24, 2010 9:00 pm

    i don’t think that benson and thompson are pals. benson stands to lose his $500k annual salary.

  267. Unkanesson August 24, 2010 9:00 pm

    If SC’s front 7 are comparable to Georgia’s Sugar Bowl team, we certainly will have our work cut out for us. But there are 3 factors that should enable us to handle it better:

    1. Our current head coach was there and saw what happened. Hopefully, some lessons were learned.

    2. While our current QB isn’t the slinger Colt was, he is a much better scrambler and may be able to escape the rush better.

    3. Watching that Sugar Bowl game, I got the distinct impression that JJ was detached and not as involved in the game as usual. It seemed like he didn’t make much of an effort to find ways to negate the rush. Colt was a sitting duck. I think our motivation, both players and coaches, is going to be very different for this game, and I’m hopeful we’ll be more creative in devising ways to counter what may well be something of a physical mismatch.

  268. Curt August 24, 2010 9:01 pm

    I e-mailed Karl Benson earlier about the importance of the ESPN alliance. Of course, the horses are out of the barn already. Come back horsey horsey. Please horsey horsey. Yes, this is called groveling. As a husband, I’m expert at it.

  269. al August 24, 2010 9:01 pm

    isn’t it weird that there is no news regarding the wac for over 72 hours?

    in this case no news is bad news.

  270. al August 24, 2010 9:02 pm

    269…grovel? hahaha.

  271. jack August 24, 2010 9:09 pm


    geez, as usual talking smack, all ego, no class, but geez, so motivating, a real hero of sat ire.

  272. Curt August 24, 2010 9:12 pm


    Yes al. I’m sure you know all about grovelin’ too. ;o)

  273. SteveM August 24, 2010 9:28 pm


    August 24th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    I truly thought the WB meant we were all ohana. Three years ago, Rupert described his plight as a homeless veteran. Then he disappeared for 3 years. Now he is back. And I hope his situation has improved.I took a nap this afternoon and missed this. I saw Rupert’s earlier post and recalled thinking I haven’t seen him a long time, but forgot about his last situation when he posted here often.

    <b<I hope things are better, RupertDaStupert!

    …and thank you, gigi-hawaii. We have a lot of new bloggers here who are not aware of the past associations formed here in the blog. Some of us may say unusual and seemingly off the wall things 🙄 –especially those originally depicted in the Tsai-ko Group Caricature of early 2007…

    DPK, Jason/homey, Al, gigi-hawaii, Garret, Rasu Begasu, prideperiod, Bulla, ST, Addahknowjoe, SteveM/[FloridaTed], mctruck/brew808, [LTUHF], (j)James, and WreckinEyez…

    associations and friendships run deeper here than most other blogs … and the group is still growing. 🙂

  274. Curt August 24, 2010 9:36 pm

    howzit gigi

  275. mctruck August 24, 2010 9:54 pm

    tanks-4-da-mention, SteveM; just waz up because I couldn’t sleep any longer….so I qued-in and wow!!, laulau!!…I find myself being mentioned by my good friend…I agree, never met anyone in person but I feel very connected to you all. Thanks for being my blog friends..maybe, maybe…..someday I will be able to to meet inperson with you all, alas time moves just too swiftly as a few bloggers have been laid to rest and in that regard my heart is heavy with regrets.

    We do what we must, as they say…and hope for the best. (KEEP WELL YOUR HEARTS MY FRIENDS).

    September 2nd!!!…..GO WARRIORS!!, kick some USC butts!!

  276. Pride. August 24, 2010 10:10 pm

    Went to the man-camp. Was most impressed by the amount of players on the team that already their degrees. No wonder this team is showing so much maturity.

  277. chopsueyboy August 24, 2010 10:13 pm

    Had fun at Coach Mack’s Man-Fan Clinic.

    Learned a lot of how they prepare for a game

    day by day breakdown

  278. LizKauai [iMac] m/ August 24, 2010 10:19 pm

    We are all in His hands.

    Wherever Colt goes- he is on his path and we get to make new friends along the way.

    #264- I think Hawaii was collateral damage. The other school were just looking out for #1.

    Nice to hear about the man camp. The Ladies one was awesome last year. It solidified my respect for our coaches/teachers and I came away feeling a sense of balance – and made new friends along the way!

  279. Bstunna2002 August 24, 2010 10:21 pm

    The Man Clinic was a great experience it gave me alot better insight as to just how much preparation goes into each game I have a new found respect for the hard work the coaches and players put in…plus I went through receiving drills with Bradley,Salas,Pilares and Bright…it was good fun

  280. LizKauai [iMac] m/ August 24, 2010 10:21 pm

    Nitey nite… can’t keep eyes open – actually they were too open this afternoon- had to get them dilated at the dr’s office.

  281. Hoohiki August 24, 2010 10:34 pm

    Hard not to get depressed over the UH and WAC situation. I hope, BYU or JD makes a decision soon and not let another entity create another negative circumstance for us. Nevertheless, I wish the Warriors the best against USC! PPV for us on Maui is only $210.

    On a more positive note, “Good luck to the Waipio team against Ohio!” Imua, Gambatte, Geev’um, etc!

    LLWS Hawaii champions:

    Little League 2 West Oahu, Waipio

    Junior League 4 Pearl City, Aiea, Aiea, PearlCity

    Big League 0

    Senior League 1 Hilo

    I noticed that Chinese-Taipei owns the LL and this year, the champions of the Junior, Big, and Senior Leagues are from International Teams, including Chinese Taipei, again. If Waipio, doesn’t win it all, I’m sure hoping that the US gets the LLWS Championships. No matter what, LLWS is always such a feel good story with kids playing, volunteers volunteering and coaches coaching for the love of the game, their region, state, and country.

  282. ali0482 August 24, 2010 10:44 pm

    On the other hand, it would be kind of fun for the WAC to sue the presidents of Fresno State and Nevada. Essentially, both are board members of the WAC. They have access to the finances and other WAC information. To use such information for their own benefit, breaking their responsibility to the league, well, that makes them liable.

  283. sportsbow August 24, 2010 11:01 pm

    Still get chance for the MWC or what.

    LINK: http://www.cougarboard.com/nologin/message.html?id=5826308

  284. ypo August 24, 2010 11:29 pm

    are you ready for some volleyball

  285. KamTruck August 24, 2010 11:30 pm

    Are you ready for some volleyball ?

  286. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc August 25, 2010 12:32 am

    Time to get a new post up.

  287. Gilda Stoots August 25, 2010 12:38 am

    What I need to know is why I ought to care? I mean, not to say that what youve got to express isnt important, but I mean, its so generic. Everyones discussing this guy. Give us one thing a lot more, some thing that we can get behind so we can experience as passionately about this as you do.

  288. al August 25, 2010 12:40 am

    sportsbow…anything could still happen. nothing is far fetched.

    the year after 2011 will be the best year for the warriors. where ever we may be. i think the wac days are numbered. whether it is independent or somewhere else.

  289. Kekoa (iPhone) August 25, 2010 3:23 am

    Ralph ~ Howz about a small wager on the Raiders/9ers game this weekend?…I’ll take the Raiders, just to make it fair.

    Nah, nah…j/k! You keep your can of Raid, ‘n I’ll stick with da gold rush crew from ’49!

    I bet you any dollah…

  290. Kekoa (iPhone) August 25, 2010 3:34 am

    No can sleep…too WAC’d out. Wish it were all just a bad dream.

    People in these positions of power had better be careful. There are guys out here with heavy PTSD problems. Taking away their conference…could spell disaster. Hope their Ivory tower has ample security.

  291. roysan16 August 25, 2010 4:25 am

    #272 jack

    All ego? You think so. Look at the archives for the last three years there’s not one piece of personal information about myself that I’ve emitted. This is in contrast to others that continuously go out of their way to tell the blog their everyday movements. I don’t anchor the blog, hog the conversation or even try to draw attention to myself. What I do is open my mouth and not suppress my emotions, mostly about UH football. Is that bad? Look back further in the archives and you’ll see that I’m not afraid to speak up. Some of the actions of Coach Mack I’ve condemned, like for example the role mel had in leading the team, his image, how he would elevated his players and coaches to no end, and how he would tip his hand to the opposing teams during the Call the Coach Shows. Trust me in doing so I exercised my prerogative of wanting a better team and not exercising as what you might construe as exercising my ego.

    I think your reaction to what I wrote, or the manner in which I write, sways other from speaking up, which I think isn’t a good thing. But I guess for a blog that yearns in being esoteric in how they perceive things it might.

    But don’t worry about me jack for I’m no treat to this blog as I don’t post as much as I used to.

  292. Pomai August 25, 2010 4:46 am

    UH vs USC

    0    –    66    roysan16

    2    –    0    OldDiver

    21    –    17    HNL

    21    –    14    gigi

    24    –    20    jm2375

    24    –    28    NCAA

    24    –    17    RedZone

    24    –    21    LizKauai

    25    –    24    A-House

    27    –    24    Steve

    30    –    28    wafan

    30    –    47    Dennis Holloran

    30    –    58    Pride

    31    –    10    tom mui

    33    –    30    MP

    35    –    21    Pomai

    35    –    31    DPK

    38    –    21    G (China)

    38    –    24    chopsueybooy

    41    –    31    Michigan Warrior

    42    –    35    Tcahng

    42    –    20    Unkanesson

    45    –    34    greenthumb

    47    –    42    NYUH

    48    –    28    protector

    49    –    35    Glenn

    56    –    14    d1shima

    56    –    13    Kekoa

    62    –    24    Ipu Man

  293. NYUH August 25, 2010 4:51 am

    Remember BYU, Alabama, MSU. Hawaii could win.


  294. Garret (traveling) August 25, 2010 5:13 am

    The Salt Lake Tribune posted the text of the loyalty agreement for the WAC. It sure looks to me that only $5 million total is owed by Fresno/Nevada since it is clear that once a school left the WAC no other school would owe the WAC any money if they left.

    6. In the event that any current WAC member, (except Louisiana Tech or Boise State), or BYU leaves the WAC in accordance with the provisions of paragraph 5 herein, the terms of this resolution are terminated.

  295. Garret (traveling) August 25, 2010 5:14 am

    We already know that La Tech wants out of the WAC…it is interesting to read what the Louisiana media thinks about the WAC.

    “It’s hard to see any scenario where this isn’t terrible news for Louisiana Tech,” said Monroe News-Star columnist Ethan Conley. “The WAC is left with Tech, Hawaii, Idaho, New Mexico State, San Jose State and Utah State. Or as the cool kids are calling it, ‘The Absolute Worst Conference In The Nation.’”

  296. Hank August 25, 2010 5:25 am

    magandang umaga!

  297. Hank August 25, 2010 5:29 am

    NYUH…it was a while ago, but remember 1988 when we kicked 9th ranked Iowa….in our season opener…hell yeah we could win.

  298. Kekoa (iPhone) August 25, 2010 5:32 am

    Roysan16 ~ I’m just curious…and I don’t want to get into a pi$$ing contest over this…but do you not expect backlash from things that you have posted.

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