Travel call

It’s interesting the San Francisco 49ers decided to practice in Youngstown, Ohio, this past week between their road games at Minnesota and New Jersey.

The Warriors employed the stay-on-the-road strategy in each of the previous four seasons. The Warriors were 1-3 in the second game of those two-game series.

The Warriors, in the middle of back-to-back road games, decided to return to Hawaii between games. It makes fiscal sense because this Saturday’s game is at San Diego, a one-flight trip to a sea-level city.

Meanwhile, the 49ers’ strategy is paying off, ย but it might have little to do with staying on the road and everything to do with Mark Sanchez being the Jets’ quarterback.


  1. tommui September 30, 2012 8:26 am

    FIRST or thereabout!

  2. Kekoa September 30, 2012 8:27 am

    Greetings ST. JETZ having a Warrior like time on Defense today. Sanchez having a tuff time throwing from the full lay out position.

    Go niners!

  3. koakane i5 September 30, 2012 8:27 am

    morning ๐Ÿ˜Ž

  4. tommui September 30, 2012 8:27 am


    Great watching the Wahine last night!


  5. Kekoa September 30, 2012 8:29 am

    Wow judge! I was a minute late and a dollah short…

  6. kkobi425 September 30, 2012 8:30 am

    Crickets…everybody must be watching NFL.

  7. HiFlyer September 30, 2012 8:30 am


    10 – 42 SDSU

  8. gigi-hawaii September 30, 2012 8:31 am

    Kapernick being the QB is the reason why SF is doing so well.

    Just for fun, the Jets should play Tebow!

  9. gigi-hawaii September 30, 2012 8:32 am

    Good luck to coach Chow, et al, on their recruiting mission!

  10. koakane i5 September 30, 2012 8:33 am

    change of pace check out the Ryder cup match between USA and Europe. good matches going on.

    shout out to eis patnah and tommui

  11. gigi-hawaii September 30, 2012 8:33 am

    It’s a brand new day, folks. Let’s keep it positive on the blog! mahalo.

  12. Stephen Tsai September 30, 2012 8:35 am

    My thumb clicks. Is that early stages of arthritis?

  13. gigi-hawaii September 30, 2012 8:37 am

    ST: thumb clicks when you enter the early stages of dementia.


  14. koakane i5 September 30, 2012 8:38 am

    congrats to wahines on their win over LBS. remember great battles between these teams in da past.

  15. Stephen Tsai September 30, 2012 8:40 am


    No, that’s when you ask: Hey, why are there so many strings on my fingers?

  16. koakane i5 September 30, 2012 8:42 am

    congrats to wahines on their win over LBS. vi remember great battles between these teams.

  17. gigi-hawaii September 30, 2012 8:43 am

    Koakane, you said that twice.


  18. LizKauai (iPad) September 30, 2012 8:44 am


    Ok. That was for ST.

    GO PACK!!!

  19. gigi-hawaii September 30, 2012 8:45 am

    ST: hubby’s mother developed Alzheimer’s over night, it seems. One day, she didn’t recognize her children and thought her daughter was the nurse and her son the plumber. One year later, she was dead.

  20. LizKauai (iPad) September 30, 2012 8:45 am

    Koakane- how do you like your phone- or are you driving cross-country?

  21. gigi-hawaii September 30, 2012 8:46 am

    OK, enough about dementia.

    Let’s talk about football.

  22. gigi-hawaii September 30, 2012 8:47 am

    Liz, thank goodness I didn’t buy iPhone5 with its disastrous map-help.

  23. papajoe2 September 30, 2012 8:48 am


    Players to fit coaches system or coach to fit the players abilities.

  24. Garret September 30, 2012 8:48 am

    San Diego State is NOT that good this year. They were expected to be down this year because their QB and RB (and key members of their D) graduated.

    I was at the game when they got their only win against D-IA competition this season…but that was against 0-4 Army who lost 23-3 against Stony Brook (D-IAA school, same conference as Charleston Southern).

    Here is how San Diego State did against D-IA teams this year:

    Washington 21, SDSU 12 (not bad for their opening game on the road)

    SJSU 38, SDSU 34 (game was in San Diego)

    Fresno State 52, SDSU 40 (game was in Fresno)

    UH has a chance in this game. SDSU’s defense gave up 38 points to SJSU and 52 points against Fresno State in their last 2 games. UH has an extra day to prepare because UH played on Friday.

    The big negative to me is that I saw first-hand how SDSU has 2 good RBs. Hopefully the coaches can come up with a game plan that compensates for the injuries on the DL and stops SDSU’s running game.

  25. Stephen Tsai September 30, 2012 8:49 am


    Did she have a stroke? Maybe that altered her personality.

  26. gigi-hawaii September 30, 2012 8:50 am

    hubby says all of the dog lovers are against Michael Vick. Even the refs are dog lovers and hate Vick. That’s why he gets beaten up so much.

    Who’s going to replace Vick if he gets injured?

  27. Slugger September 30, 2012 8:51 am

    Good morning, gang!

    Go NINERS! (Sorry, ST)

  28. gigi-hawaii September 30, 2012 8:52 am

    ST: she had a mild stroke long before she developed Alzheimers. As I said, the latter happened over night. One day she was fine, the next she had amnesia, it seemed.

  29. Stephen Tsai September 30, 2012 8:52 am

    Speaking of dogs . . .

    Remember when Dog Chapman’s show was being canceled. He said he had an announcement. And here we wait . . .

    OK, nobody is really waiting.

  30. gigi-hawaii September 30, 2012 8:53 am

    Garret, what’s your prediction for Saturday’s game?

  31. Garret September 30, 2012 8:54 am

    Sagarin ratings for the MWC and other UH opponents

    19 Boise State

    50 Nevada

    76 Fresno State

    100 San Diego State

    102 New Mexico

    107 Air Force

    118 Wyoming

    131 UH

    139 Colorado State

    149 UNLV

    27 USC

    68 BYU

    172 South Alabama

    218 Lamar (lowest ranked team in the Southland Conference)

  32. Chicken Grease September 30, 2012 8:54 am

    Jets overhyped. Sanchez vs. shirtless Tebow. Foot-playing football coach lose so much weight. UH Warriors can take heart they ain’t Jets.

    Assorted Grease notes:

    Dredd great movie. Good rendition of Judge Dredd (Urban never takes the helmet of, yes!!!!!!! Authentic!!!) . Film quite Escape From New York-like.

    Animated (Frank Miller adapted) The Dark Knight Returns not really a good ode to Miller’s great addition to Batman lore.


  33. Stephen Tsai September 30, 2012 8:58 am

    That’s a lot of Os.

  34. gigi-hawaii September 30, 2012 9:01 am

    ST: Dog Chapman’s show was picked up by a different cable channel, I forget which. I think they ordered 10 episodes. Isn’t he going to the mid-west?

  35. Garret September 30, 2012 9:05 am


    I think that things aren’t as bad for UH as many people think…getting blown out looks a lot worse than a close loss but they both count the same in the record. To make the Hawaii Bowl, UH has to beat #172 South Alabama, #149 UNLV, #139 Colorado State (on the road), #102 New Mexico, and pull off an upset against 1 of the other 4 teams they play.

    It won’t be easy, at this point it probably isn’t likely, but it is definitely possible. The big positive is that the team should be much better in the 2nd half of the season because the players will be more comfortable in the new systems that UH has on offense and defense, and the coaches will know more about the strengths and limitations of the players.

    The one HUGE probablem is that injuries can easily ruin seasons for teams and UH seems to have bad luck with injuries at DT, a crucial position in the MWC where so many teams have strong running games. That is why I posted yesterday about my hopes for full recoveries for the injured Warriors…UH has 3 or more DTs hurt right now (ST even mentioned Andrade was hurt, he was one of the freshman that UH had hoped to redshirt but needs to play now).

  36. mo808 September 30, 2012 9:06 am

    Good Morning!

  37. mo808 September 30, 2012 9:06 am

    They cut away from SF game ๐Ÿ™

  38. Garret September 30, 2012 9:08 am

    Just for fun, the Jets should play Tebow!

    Tebow *is* playing. He completed the pass he threw. He has 2 rushing attempts. He apparently did a great job in blocking a blitzer, I saw a clip posted online:

  39. Rodney September 30, 2012 9:10 am

    Good luck to the warriors.Be always ready!

    Play smart,study your play books so you can

    play fast.We gotta make plays, big time players

    make plays!!!!!!Thank you for playing hard for

    your families ,friends,your selfs and for me

    your fans!!!!! Imua!! SDST 24 HAWAII 27

  40. HiFlyer September 30, 2012 9:11 am

    Pilares scores for Panthers

  41. mo808 September 30, 2012 9:11 am

    Bills can’t seem to hold on to the ball. Now an interception… Guess they’ll cut away from this too

  42. papajoe2 September 30, 2012 9:11 am

    Pilares TD!

  43. Slugger September 30, 2012 9:11 am

    WooHoo! Pilares into the end zone!

  44. Chicken Grease September 30, 2012 9:12 am

    Stephen Tsai:

    September 30th, 2012 at 8:58 am

    That’s a lot of Os.

    A Grease is a simply a regular Nihongo-expressioning honey crunches of O’s on ya’ll hea blog, Mr. Tsai. Thank you (doomo) for the opportunity, Mr!!!!!

    Heh!!!! FOX switched from SF domination of Sanchez/Tebow and The Jets to the more competitive S. Carolina v. Hotlanta game!

  45. mo808 September 30, 2012 9:12 am

    Woohoo Panthers and Pilares!

  46. gigi-hawaii September 30, 2012 9:13 am

    Garret, you’re right about injuries ruining a season.

    remember Bob Nash, when he complained about injuries, and Mack also complaining about the same thing last year?

    Not only did they lose the season, they both lost their jobs!


  47. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 30, 2012 9:16 am

    Didn’t realize that Atlanta’s OC is Dirk Koetter. Pretty effective offense so far.

  48. papajoe2 September 30, 2012 9:19 am

    I was wodering where Koetter is.

  49. Kekoa September 30, 2012 9:21 am

    Niners 34

    Jetz zip/zero/nada

    …and the beat goes on.

  50. Chicken Grease September 30, 2012 9:22 am

    Pilares time! Let’s see it!

  51. ฮฒฯฮตฯ‰808 September 30, 2012 9:22 am

    J – E – T – S => Jest, Jest, Jest !!! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜†

  52. madeinhawaii September 30, 2012 9:24 am

    Wow… Salas gets cut and put on the practice squad.. while Pilares is playing and scoring? Two sides of a coin.

  53. Chicken Grease September 30, 2012 9:25 am

    Julio no! To all the catches I loved before . . .

  54. gigi-hawaii September 30, 2012 9:27 am

    well, Salas had the knee injury. maybe he is not as good as he used to be.

  55. LizKauai (iPhone) September 30, 2012 9:28 am

    Pilares TD. Chee Hoo!

  56. islandman September 30, 2012 9:29 am

    Garret, #24;

    The red flag is that San Diego State has a running game, 16th in the nation, which UH hasn’t shown it can stop in the last two games. They also put up 40 points vs. Fresno.

  57. LizKauai (iPhone) September 30, 2012 9:30 am

    Salas is awesome. All this moving around is administrative and financial, I believe.

  58. Chicken Grease September 30, 2012 9:30 am

    Newton does a Jacko move? Ah, man, get the TD first! ๐Ÿ™‚

  59. laulau head September 30, 2012 9:40 am


    Thanks for that quick post Liz! Awesome!

  60. mo808 September 30, 2012 9:50 am

    What a good game between the Panthers and Falcons!

  61. LizKauai (iPhone) September 30, 2012 9:54 am

    Pilares shines again!

  62. LizKauai (iPhone) September 30, 2012 9:54 am

    Now can we see the Packers, please?

  63. mo808 September 30, 2012 10:00 am

    Thanks Liz! Pilares had a great game today! Too bad they could it pull out a win!

  64. Garret September 30, 2012 10:02 am

    The red flag is that San Diego State has a running game, 16th in the nation, which UH hasn’t shown it can stop in the last two games. They also put up 40 points vs. Fresno.


    I know about that red flag–I mentioned it above and I posted about how SDSU had 2 very good RBs when I went to see them play against Army.

    The 40 points against Fresno State cannot be credited just towards their offense–2 of their TDs was scored by INTs they returned for TDs. That had nothing to do with SDSU’s running game. SDSU has playmakers on D so UH will need to limit turnovers, as SDSU is very good at forcing turnovers and taking advantage of them.

  65. LizKauai (iPhone) September 30, 2012 10:04 am

    Go, Pack, Go!

  66. kev-1 September 30, 2012 10:06 am

    Sanchez sucks. So does the fullback Tebow. Sorry ST, their screwed.

  67. kev-1 September 30, 2012 10:10 am

    Dog’s new show is taking on a new format. Something about him traveling across the country trying to save a dying breed – bounty hunters.

    While I applaud his success, I don’t care for how they represent Hawaii. Especially Beth. Strangely enough, a lot of people on the mainland are fascinated by that show. I once interviewed with an insurance company in Washington, and the guy wanted to talk to me about Dog. Really?

  68. kev-1 September 30, 2012 10:11 am

    I told him I didn’t watch the show. I didn’t get the job. Stupid me.

  69. NYUHTX September 30, 2012 10:15 am

    Pilares has some nice plays but Carolina d eats it.

  70. Wes'side Warrior September 30, 2012 10:18 am

    Howzit, everyone!

    Been extra busy this weekend. Good thing, too… as I had little time to sulk and pout and whine, and all that other junk stuff. Mostly tired, but glad that things are being taken care of.

    I’m not going back to read all of the regurgitated stuff, as I’m sure most of it is. Probably a couple of good points mixed in, but… I prefer moving forward.

    I’d like to hear an honest assessment, from the coaches, on everything that’s transpired over these first four games. Stats from the boxscores aside, what has been really going on in each position, and by each player? Is there improvement in recognition? Are our deficiencies short-term fixable?

    I really don’t think our program and (poor) fan base can handle a throw-away season. We started out promising, and then got steamrolled these past two weekends. As long as we can see (and measure) our improvement, I think we may not lose too many fair-weather fans. There’s been lots of changes to how things are run. The majority of us agreed that it’s been positive, up until these past two games, mainly.

    Still want to see these past couple of games, to get an idea (myself) of where we are.

    Keep at it, Warriors!

    Keep at it, fans!

    Healing prayers for all those who are dinged up (or whatever that word was…).

    Still lots more games to go. Keep the fire burning.

  71. islandman September 30, 2012 10:19 am

    Garret, # 65,

    I was agreeing with you on your post #24 about San Diego States running game. Apparently the QB can run too, as he had one run for 67 yards.

  72. Old School Dave September 30, 2012 10:20 am

    SDSU is always a dangerous team will all of that talent (HS and JUCO) to recruit from in the San Diego area. They’ve been referred to as a sleeping giant, if they could just get the right coach there to take advantage of all of the positives there (great weather, nice city, talent base nearby, etc). Don Coryell, and Claude Gilbert had some very strong teams for the Aztecs back in the day.

  73. Kevin September 30, 2012 10:22 am


    While Chapman and his wife would come off as jerks, one must wonder how much the producers of that show influenced what was shown and how its portrayed.

    “Reality” shows are a bigger farce attempting to portray something as “pure” and “true” than pro wrestling. Funny thing is, today, majority of WWE’s biggest fans KNOW its only a show and not real at least.

    There have been times on Dog’s show when they’ve had to actually re-do those scenes where the find the person they are looking for because the camera men were not in position.

    Plus when pressured to portray what you are doing as such a big deal, it WILL alter your actions.

    I mean look at the way they dress. Bounty hunters dont make themselves stick out like that. The point is to be incognito as much as possible yet over time they looked more and more like a real SWAT team.

    Betcha its the show’s producers telling them how to dress to create the image that would capture people’s attention.

    So, sometimes I find it amazing how people can be quick to slam “reality” show stars as indiviuals supposedly being “themselves”.

    Its not.

    There is no real “reality” show anymore.

    Its all produced and often OVER-produced.

  74. Kevin September 30, 2012 10:28 am

    Watching OC Sports for the replay of last nights game and wow..

    That ummmm “Game On” intro song is ummm…




  75. Kevin September 30, 2012 10:30 am

    Song is VERY dated… But at least the coverage quality with the effort placed with post and pregame shows, more camera angles, etc… is drastically improved from ahem.. K-5.

  76. Capitolist/WassupDoc September 30, 2012 11:11 am

    We had some time to kill yesterday afternoon until the Wahine volleyball match and stopped by Kanpai Sports Bar on Ward Avenue across from the Sports Authority. We watched the last half of the Texas-Oklahoma game. Wow! Talk about a nail-biter. Good food, reasonable prices, great tv sets, and very casual environment.

    Speaking of road games – any Away-Gate this coming Saturday? The Wahine are also on the road.


    Check out Ian Lind’s blog which has takes a solid look at the Department of Athletics at UH-Manoa. httpcolonfrontslashfrontslashilinddotnet. Very disturbing.


    CHANGE OF SUBJECT: Last night, our primary television set – a 2003 Sony – died. We will be going out later on today to look at various options. We don’t have the space in the tv room for a screen much larger than 25″ to 27″ nor do we have a wall to hang the set from.

    What retail stores here in Honolulu provide quality service both at the sales level and follow-up? Any recommendations for brands or types?

  77. Chicken Grease September 30, 2012 11:12 am

    Ahahahahahahah, yes, yes, Kevin, a Grease — though unknowledged about the electonic-street-disco musicks of today’s and, gomen, your liberal use of my Savior’s name (heh, hey, hey, Grease a Catholic here) — simply agrees with you. What has Wahine v-ball coverage turned into? A TV series a la 5-0 or somefin?

    On a somewhat tangential note . . . you folks see the all-black pants of the Saints? With only a small team logo on the side? THATs what the football Warrior game day pants should be. All black. Not white. No fancy swirling designs. All back. Small “H” logo. Baltimore Ravens all-black pants is a good example, too. No more white on the uniform. Bad luck white (Coach Chow is Chinese, right? He should know white means “death” in China).

  78. LizKauai (iPhone) September 30, 2012 11:37 am

    Ryder Cup drama!!!!

  79. duffer September 30, 2012 11:42 am

    Europe retains the Ryder Cup!

  80. kev-1 September 30, 2012 11:48 am


    I agree with what you say about reality shows. I just don’t care for the personalities. But yeah, reality shows are far from reality.

  81. manoa#1 September 30, 2012 11:51 am

    the aztecs r always good and dangerous and if they only have 2 good rb’s that’s all they need to win.

    aztecs – 48 warriors – o

  82. kev-1 September 30, 2012 11:56 am

    Green Bay coach was talking about the running back situation earlier saying that Alex Green has earned a shot. Then, watching the game, I saw Green run on the field and he got waved off by Benson. If a coach sends you in, can the starter wave you off? I guess it’s not like college ball.

  83. rodney September 30, 2012 11:56 am

    nice to see coach k,coach powell and coach chow staying bck on

    the mainland to recruit,Go get us some playmakers and stout


  84. Will-I-Am September 30, 2012 12:39 pm

    When I use my iPad and switch to another website tab then come back to WB page it goes to the top of the screen. I have scroll down to where I left off. Is this because I did the iPad update? Or is it the blog?

  85. Kekoa September 30, 2012 12:39 pm

    W/Doc ~ Go to Costco and check their TV’s in your *size* range. The price range is around $150 to $200.

  86. Garret September 30, 2012 12:47 pm

    Looks like UH started as a 16 point underdog to SDSU…and then betting on SDSU moved the line to make UH an 18.5 point underdog.

  87. Garret September 30, 2012 12:50 pm


    I agree with you. SDSU runs some misdirection plays with their QB to try to catch the D focusing too much on their RBs. The QB has the option to run or throw on those plays, so the UH D will have to be disciplined and keep contain instead of trying to catch the RB from the backside.

  88. kama krab September 30, 2012 1:13 pm

    Garret #35,

    Exactly what I was thinking just didn’t have numerical facts. Anyway those where the teams I thought we could beat too but never like say anything cause we get some sour fans around right now that think we could not beat a Pop Warner team and of course those are the same people that probably could not coach with the same knowledge as a Pop Warner coach, which is really not saying much.

    Oh and by the way, how is the family and the business doing. Been a while since got to talkin. Nice to see you around again.

  89. tommui September 30, 2012 1:30 pm

    Koakane – shout back to you! Hope all is well.

  90. simple seo rank checker September 30, 2012 1:46 pm

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  91. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 2:15 pm

    339. re-posted just for you. you need a reality check more than nobody else, you’re #1 lol

    NEVADA 34, Texas State 21

    Oo… For those of you that don’t know, Texas State is in it’s 1st year as a D1 (FBS) school. Texas State loss to “BIG BAD” Nevada (by just 13 points) who destroyed us by 45 points, 69-24. Texas State had the lead at the half, 21-20. Texas State is a new FBS school being competitiveโ€”is that too much to ask for?!

    A few of you want to keep on making the lame excuse, “new coach, new system, we young etc..” there’s no excuse for our guys to get blown out by 45 and 47 points, and in the process looking so inept like a bad D2 (FCS) programโ€” NO EXCUSE. Nevada and BYU are not USC, ‘BAMA, LSU etc…

    Like i’ve said before, i expected those losses, and can accept those losses, but not the complete dismantling/destroying of our team, and letting it go because of “new system, coach, young players etc…” Our defensive scheme blows, same defense we played against USC on through BYU. One speed, 5th gear, no other gears.

    Our opposing teams saw tapes and are destroying us, they know what we do. SDSU will destroy us if we don’t disguise coverages, play some zone to go with the press-man coverage etc… If we had 11 dominant defensive players we could get away with the philosophy we are using, but we are not ‘Bama. MIX IT UP!!!!

    Good lord! give our boyz a chance DC!!!

  92. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 2:18 pm

    #99 Actually in response to yestadayz 340.

  93. 3-Prong September 30, 2012 2:21 pm

    Remember watching a Damien Iolani game at Iolani one day. Damien was giving the ball to this 130-140 skinny kid who kept gaining chunks of yards. He was always one move ahead of the defender. They must have given him over 30 carries. Think he had 200-300 yards that day. Teammates literally had to lift him to his feet at the end. He blew me away. The Pilares legend was born.

  94. 3-Prong September 30, 2012 2:40 pm

    I googled the game. Pilares had 50(!) carries for exactly 300 yards of rushing.

  95. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 2:45 pm

    Im glad Pilares stayed home and played for the home team.

  96. clyde September 30, 2012 2:47 pm

    3-Prong. I was at that Damien-Iolani game, too. Pilares was โ€ฆ well, astonishing. But I’m sure he didn’t get 50 carries because every time Damien subbed him out for Kama Bailey, the P.A. announcer kept saying, “Pilares with the ball.” Bailey was never credited with some of the carries/yards that went to Pilares. At least that’s my recollection.

  97. lava September 30, 2012 2:58 pm

    According to Chow, no changes coming. OK, take SDSU and give points generously in the spirit of sportsmanship.

  98. Ben A. Lurker September 30, 2012 3:01 pm

    Coach Chow is in it to win it. Long haul. Its gonna take time.

    Naysayers come and be counted. Warrior Beat is a time capsule.

    Many looks back at seasons past.

    Here and now a suggestion:

    Be listed as “Faithful” or “Faithless” – sign in like the weekly scores.

    Then let the man coach, recruit and win or lose and later we can see who’s vision came to be.


    Ben A Lurker


  99. Chicken Grease September 30, 2012 3:05 pm


    September 30th, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    According to Chow, no changes coming . . ..

    He really say this? Man. Qhat’s with some coaches when the team’s getting so murdered on the field. Ok, forget USC. But, with Nev’ and this past weekend BYU? Make some changes. Change is good, right? I don’t get it sometimes.

  100. 3-Prong September 30, 2012 3:06 pm

    50 carries does seem incredible. Bailey was the one graduating a year or two behind Pilares? Where is he now and how is he doing? Idaho?

  101. kama krab September 30, 2012 3:13 pm

    Eh how you SAWARRIOR,

    Nah I no need one reality check cause I just see things differently than you do. I understand things a little bit more than you do and do I think I’m #1, no, I’m just a fan like everybody else. The only difference between me and a lot here is I coach myself and the kids I coach usually go to programs other than U.H. Most go to PAC 12 schools and make big names for themselves. I try not to boost about who I am but when I get called out I need to put people in there place. That’s all I will say.

    Oh and by the way, I understood very well what you said in your post yesterday and I understand the fustrations that many are having but like I said in my post yesterday, this is a process and the process is not always smooth but when the team gets to where it needs to be, there will be more cheering than bitching. Like I said above, I understand things just a little better than most out there and thus am not very suprised with what is going on but I see some things that may help us if done right by the players.

  102. el burro sabio September 30, 2012 3:17 pm


    I haven’t played football for over 40 years and really don’t remember much about how the game is played and what the strategies are, they didn’t teach much of that to us besides our assignments. What would you say is the reason that I should trust your analysis of what is wrong with the football team right now over another person’s analysis? What knowledge of football can you offer to help me better understand the game?

  103. Ipu Man September 30, 2012 3:19 pm

    But even a lot of high school qbs gain gobs of yards on long runs,

    deliberate or just running for daylight.

  104. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 3:20 pm

    112. it’s called an opinion. absorb… think about it, that is all.

  105. Ipu Man September 30, 2012 3:21 pm

    And don’t you even dare to call me faithless for presenting a few observations.

    Sheeesshhh. Just like the Bible predicted, everyone will be attacking everyone

    in these last days.

  106. Ipu Man September 30, 2012 3:22 pm

    Over and out.

  107. el burro sabio September 30, 2012 3:24 pm

    SAWarrior, it seems like you think your opinion is better than other people’s opinion. You may be right, you may not be right, time will tell. That is all.

  108. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 3:27 pm

    111. high on yourself, aren’t you? and do you REALLY think you’re putting me, or anyone else “in their place”. LOL right on, gold sticker for you!

  109. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 3:31 pm

    117. not at all el burro, not at all. show me where i’ve attacked another persons opinion and i will apologize.

  110. el burro sabio September 30, 2012 3:34 pm


    September 29th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    247. who cares how arkansas feel, the Warriors are our team. arkansas is THEIR problem.

  111. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 3:51 pm

    120. make sure stuff are is perspective. look at his last line, i may be wrong, but sounds like getting on other bloggers first.

    246. You think UH has it bad. We’re 1-3 and our lone win is against a 1-AA school. We have a new coach with new systems in place for offense and defense. We’re gunning for a Hawaii Bowl berth. We lost to a #1 ranked team on the road by 40 points.

    Arkansas is 1-4 with a loss against a 1-AA school. They lost to a #1 ranked team at home by 52 points. They have an interim coach who had a Heisman Trophy candidate. They were talking about a National Championship.

    Before you start whining, grumbling, bithching and calling out Coach Chow, think of how the Arkansas faithful are feeling?

  112. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 3:52 pm

    are in**

  113. kama krab September 30, 2012 3:56 pm

    118 SAWARRIOR,

    Hey I was trying to be as nice as could be in my last post without out right saying that you really don’t know what you talking about. Am I high on myself, hell no, do I respect people’s opinions, yes I do, do I know just a little bit more than some people, yes I do, do I slam people’s thought’s, hell no. Now lets get some things straight I am a very humble young guy that loves U.H. football and it so happens that I also coach high school football at one of the top high school programs in the state. A school that has produced the likes of Manti Teo, Roby Toma, Brain Suite, and Luke Kaumatule to name a few. A school that will produce future stars like Kanawai Noa, Semisi Uluave, Alama Uluave, Jack Tufono son of former Hawaii high school star Al Tufono, Ronley Lakalaka and Cedric Lakalaka brothers of current Warrior Steven Lakalaka and last but not least Canton Kaumatule, which will probably be the top recruit coming out of the state come 2014, all of which I have coached through my three years of coaching. Have I ever made like I was above anybody even with that type of resume behind me, no cause that’s not who I am. I am just a humble braddah from the west side. So you know what, you can keep your gold sticker and shove it and I will continue to roll out top high school products for the rest of the nation to see. And that’s all I will say to you cause you just don’t know when to stop even when I told you I understood where you came from. What a joke.

  114. Dory September 30, 2012 4:01 pm

    Aloha Everyone!

    Dory is back on land in Honolulu. Will see you all at Genji on October 2 at



  115. WarriorNY September 30, 2012 4:06 pm


    I was at the Jets game today… :-/ Sanchez is def the problem.

  116. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 4:08 pm

    123. you respect other peoples opinions? more like mocking them.

    kama krab:

    September 30th, 2012 at 8:06 am

    Howzit Everybody,

    Eh Kevin how you brah. I think the Coach Chow should read the blog. Maybe he going get some good tips on how to change his schemes both offense and defense. Man with the way some here have given suggestions like they actually know the game, we could make Coach Chow a million dollar man. LOL

    you’re humble? you just bragged about your credentials/accomplishments in 3 years of coaching… yeah, you a humble one.

  117. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 4:09 pm

    124. welcome back ๐Ÿ™‚

  118. el burro sabio September 30, 2012 4:11 pm

    SAWarrior, I am not discussing his post, I am discussing your post. If you had said that you do not care about Arkansas’ problems, that is fine, you state an opinion without attacking another person’s opinion. Justifying your actions does not make it ok to attack another person’s opinion.

    My preference is for all opinions about what is wrong to end, because that means the team has turned it around.

  119. kama krab September 30, 2012 4:19 pm

    Ah you know what SAWARRIOR I guess I don’t repect people’s opinions and I’m not very humble well atleast according to you so I just go back to lurking cause you are not worth my time since I have way more knowledge of the game then you will ever have sitting on your couch. LOL

  120. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 4:21 pm

    128. we will agree to disagree. i did say it was arkansas problems. but thank you for bringing it up, i will be more thoughtful in future posts.


    September 29th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    247. who cares how arkansas feel, the Warriors are our team. arkansas is THEIR problem.

  121. mo808 September 30, 2012 4:23 pm

    Hi Dory! Hi SteveM! See you guys Tuesday!

  122. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 4:23 pm

    129. i call a TRUCE!!!!

  123. Moocher September 30, 2012 4:29 pm

    all in all, not to take anything away from the man…he did what he did in places that allowed it to happen. he is in a totally different environment that quite frankly will make the same type of success he had almost impossible. we are asking chow to build a temple with just a hammer in his tool belt while at other places chow built a temple having all the tools he needed…

    and thats why many people are asking him to change up some things. be innovative, find newer ways to use that hammer instead of just beating it the same way time after time…because at UH, all you gonna get is a hammer, and if you lucky a bar of soap.

  124. kama krab September 30, 2012 4:31 pm

    Bottom line is,

    No matter who the head coach is, no matter who the coordinators are, and no matter who the assitants are, I will never call them names, I will never bad mouth them and I will never question there tactics. The reason for that is I understand the time and effort that goes into coaching. I understand that coaches do not do what they do to put kids in positions not to succeed. As I’ve said, THIS IS A PROCESS and some processes take longer than others. It is the process that keep coaches coaching and it is the process that is of the greatest satifaction when everything falls into place. I will stand by Coach Chow and his coaches through thick and thin because I know for a fact that Coach Chow wants this worse than anybody and if it where not for Chow, a lot of these coaches would not be here. So in closing all I gotta say is stay in there for the long cause pay day will come and when pay day comes it will be a beatiful thing.

  125. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 4:32 pm

    134. YUUUUP! agreed

  126. Kevin September 30, 2012 4:33 pm

    Some people get hammers.

    Other people are left with rocks and a chopstick, expected to fix something made of metal and then get yelled at when asked for a real hammer at least.

    Then when the time comes for a hammer to be sent, they gotta pay for it while newer hammers get handed out like free candy.

  127. kama krab September 30, 2012 4:40 pm


    Truce it is brother. The bottom line is we are all Warrior fans and we all hope the best for the boys and the coaches. The only difference is some are just a little bit more emotionally attached then others. Like you said, we agree to disagree. Hopefully we will start agreeing more than disagreeing soon though because yes this is hard watch.

  128. kama krab September 30, 2012 4:42 pm


    You the man my friend.

  129. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 4:43 pm

    138. kama krab, i meant no disrespect towards you, nice to meet you, and GO WARRIORS!!!!

  130. kama krab September 30, 2012 4:49 pm

    Eh same here brother but kind of hard for keep peace when you get two crazy braddahs together who get one small kine argument LOL. But anyway nice to meet you to and hopefully if you come down Hawaii some time we can actually meet in person and then we really can scrap (just joking). Anyway for real though, hopefully hawaii gets on some of the boys I listed earlier cause I tell them boys going be big time come there senior years.

  131. kama krab September 30, 2012 4:51 pm


    Eh and didn’t I tell you I was one cool humble braddah. See when you never like believe me. LOL

  132. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 4:51 pm

    good SNF game on, less than 2 min to go, 17-16 Giants leading, and Eagles inside the Giant’s 5 yard line.

  133. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 4:55 pm

    now 19-17, Eagles. 1min 49 sec on clack

  134. BigHiloFan2 September 30, 2012 5:01 pm


    Coach Chow.

    you know I believe in you, my man.

    you know I got faith in you and our team, and dats true.

    but i believe in making your reality, so i gotta say this,

    no shame winning one moa fo da kanaks dis coming week.

    no shame letting da team go wack da daygoz samoa!

    an look pretty on da tv.

    UH 27 SDSU 20


  135. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 5:01 pm

    wow this game is ending crazy

  136. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 5:06 pm

    giants lose, there goes my football pool.

  137. madeinhawaii September 30, 2012 5:07 pm

    Dang it… Arkansas must have used the same selection process we did.

  138. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 5:09 pm

    Arkansas has the NOT so great John L. (sound bite) Smith as HC.. lol

  139. wafan September 30, 2012 5:17 pm


  140. kama krab September 30, 2012 5:25 pm

    I guess go thing we never give John L. Smith one chance cause we would have been bad and he would have been even more broke.

  141. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 5:31 pm

    the locals would have ran John L. out of town, he too loud. lol

  142. Supastoke September 30, 2012 5:32 pm

    Go warriors!!!heal up and play ( I Believe in you.)

  143. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 5:45 pm

    gud funnit! i keep pizzin’ on my leg

  144. cocobean September 30, 2012 6:01 pm

    To bad for Coach Chow I gave up armchair quarterbacking years ago. With my vast knowledge of football accumulated by watching hundreds of games both live and on TV I think I could’ve given him some pointers. He only has two eyes, one brain and a staff of 10 or so to depend on.

    With so many extra eyes watching he’d get a better picture of what is going on on the field. With the cumulative armchair brain power think of all the strategies that could be produced and used. New plays, new alignments, new practice methods….the ideas would be endless.

    Coach Chow shouldn’t be so stubborn and set in his ways. He should invite all active armchair qbs to a meeting. Bet he could learn a thing or two.

  145. Leron September 30, 2012 6:04 pm

    #78….funny how much “better” a broadcast is when most of the K5 staff is behind the scenes at Oceanic now. I’d say the hugest difference is HD.

  146. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 30, 2012 6:04 pm


  147. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 6:05 pm

    mac did, ron lee could have.

  148. manoa#1 September 30, 2012 6:21 pm

    #135 Kama Krab….. yeah but they getting paid da big bucks for their time and effort. i can understand if was high school the coache’s don’t get paid much and some don’t get nuthing at all.

  149. mo808 September 30, 2012 6:28 pm

    OC Sports on now! IA “Growing pains continue…”

  150. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 6:28 pm

    anybody here ever play Empire:total war. i like know if it a good game to purchase.

  151. madeinhawaii September 30, 2012 6:47 pm


    Just because he has a long history of coaching doesn’t mean he should have tunnel vision, a closed and one-tracked mind towards coaching. If anything coaching is ever evolving. Larger athletes, faster athletes, smarter players. Kickers that can make field goals from the 30-40 yard line regularly. Better passers as more high schools go to a wide open offense to be competitive. Coaches have to adapt to what’s out there to remain competitive or go extinct like dinosaurs. How many high schools employ the pro style as compared to 10-20 years ago? As a result are there are as many or more quality high school players ready to make the transition to the college game playing the pro style? Or less?

  152. Manoa September 30, 2012 6:58 pm

    I think a lot of coaches would look for a quicker fix than three years.

    I suspect Chow is too. Or he wants progress not going backwards like the last two games. Anyone who says this is what we should expect or that this is Chow’s timetable is crazy. We may not expect wins but we want to see some progress. We should expect some improvement over the next few games– we cannot keep being blown out or fans and the team will lose faith in the Program and in Chow.

    In three years the program will be gone or even worse than it is now in terms of support and recruiting.

  153. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 6:59 pm

    a lot of coaches have egos, and it gets in the way of them making sound decisions and being flexible.

  154. st. anthony trojan September 30, 2012 7:00 pm

    me i know sum thing is wrong sum where..why we can stop USC run one week n then 3rd n 4th we mess up? maybe cuz we had all year to prepare for usc? wrong application…wrong scheme…??

    ne way..still waiting for answer…for who the other two head coaches they wanted to let go with MACK? ne one know ?

  155. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 7:02 pm

    165 & 166. i agree with yous two.

  156. madeinhawaii September 30, 2012 7:05 pm

    I remember how Coach Mack would comment how he read a suggestion from a blogger and named the play after him… whether he was serious or not, it was a fun thing and was a good PR bit and made you really feel like the Warriors were Hawaii’s team..

  157. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 7:06 pm

    plzzzzzz, cowboys lose tomorrow on MNF!!!!

  158. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 7:09 pm

    i remember when we had Ron Lee’s offense and went no where, fans complained and we went back to the four-wide offense with Rolo running it and we started scoring and moving the ball again. The fans do know a thing or two.

  159. madeinhawaii September 30, 2012 7:16 pm

    Yep… when Inoke took over, fans were screaming to change the Offense to better suit Inoke, and the coaches did just that and also incorporated a moving pocket … against the odds, we made the bowl game… didn’t win it.. but at least we kept it alive for a few more seasons… .. We’ve become so spoiled these days, we expect to be bowl eligible and win it too, otherwise we think it’s an embarrassment and we should change coaches. Maybe Chow will make us face our reality. We are a mid-major and most mid-majors don’t get to a bowl game every other year.

  160. chawan_cut September 30, 2012 7:17 pm

    i’m glad the tebow drama is no longer in denver

  161. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 7:17 pm

    i need a good, online strategy war game to play. any suggestions is appreciated. If i find a good game to play, less time i’ll be posting here. hehe

  162. Garret September 30, 2012 7:23 pm

    Oh and by the way, how is the family and the business doing. Been a while since got to talkin. Nice to see you around again.

    kama krab,

    My family is doing well–the kids are growing up great and my wife is wonderful. I’m with a startup now that I really like–the people are great and my CEO is an amazing person (he was the head of NASA for longer than anyone in its history).

  163. Garret September 30, 2012 7:27 pm

    Funny that there is a discussion of Arkansas here–I read this earlier today. JJ overloaded on scholarships for the offense, but he never was this bad.

    Could not believe how far Arkansas has fallen, but longtime columnist Wally Hall told me Bobby Petrino was so offensive-minded that he had 17 wide receivers on scholarship last year and defense was all but an afterthought. Remind Austinites of anyone? Hall called it the worst Hogs defense heโ€™d seen in 35 years.

  164. cocobean September 30, 2012 7:30 pm


    I’m not a fan of Chow’s offense but I give him the benefit of the doubt to EVENTUALLY make it work. It’s not Bill Walsh’s WC O. He will go to 5 wide and take snaps from the gun. The underlying theme to his O is you got to be able to run the ball.

    I had a look back in the WB archieves to find something I posted about the Colorado coach after last year’s game.

    #206 5SEP. 1052PM

    RE: Embree

    Feel whoever was responisble for his hire will be on the hot seat in a few years. He(Embree) sold CU on turning back the hands of time to the 80s and 90s when Bill McCartney was coach. He’ll need a boatload of SEC O and D linemen to play the syle he espouses. Colorado should have gotten a more forward thinking coach rather than a man who offered them a ride on a time machine.

    Doubt he can sell top flight recruits his vision on hard nose, disciplined, run first football.

    I also posted I hope they hire a young up and coming coach rather than someone like Chow when Mack was canned.

    But much like when I voted for McCain and Obama won. I have supported Obama and hopes he’ll get the job done. Chow was not my first preference but once he got the job I have supported him 100%. Anything else to me is counter productive.

  165. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 7:33 pm

    coaches get stuck in paradigms a lot. they almost always say, this won’t work, that won’t work etc… the spread, option, RnS won’t work in the NFL, and now almost every NFL team uses the spread formation and/or concepts of it. lol

    coaches don’t always know best, just like generals of armies don’t always know the best strategy to use in wars so they have “think tanks” (Joint Staff) to come up with different strategies, scenarios and tactics.

  166. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 7:36 pm

    who dat nation is 0-4!!!! yes!!!

  167. Garret September 30, 2012 7:36 pm

    USC had 81 yards rushing against UH.

    USC had 26 yards rushing against Stanford.

    USC had a weaker rushing game than Nevada and BYU at that point in time–season opener, OL injuries (I posted before the game about how they had an OL starter unable to practice before the UH game), etc. They also ran the ball much better with their top 2 RBs, but they had their backups in after they were enough ahead.

    It looked to me that the UH D was geared to stop the run and secondary was playing really aggressively. So, UH could stop USC’s run game but USC passed the ball pretty effectively…in later games when teams focused on their passing game they ran the ball more effectively.

  168. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 7:44 pm

    ok, im going to surf the net and look for a internet war game to play.

  169. chawan_cut September 30, 2012 7:58 pm

    here’s this week’s schedule of schedules results

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  171. kama krab September 30, 2012 8:03 pm

    manoa#1 #162,

    No doubt. They get paid the big bucks to put the best product on the field as possible and that is why all the greif with the bad play. The only thing that bothers me is we are only 4 games into the season and craziness already. Kind of a ruff start for Chow.

    Oh and by the way, I’m one of them that don’t make anything. Just do it for the love of the game and to hopefully one day see one of my boys on Saturday and hopefully again on Sundays. That is the dream.

  172. NinjaWarriorTurtle September 30, 2012 8:12 pm

    Manoa#1. I totally agree. This is not high school football.

    There is no 3 year window to “get in system.” The current blow-out losses has very little to do with “lack of talent.” Coach Chow had one recruiting cycle to bring in JC players to fill gaps. However, the DT/NT injuries were unexpected. Still, this staff failed to bring in one or two DT/NT JC players. It has to get done this year. Getting competitive is not rocket science. It’s football. Pass, catch, run, tackle, kick. It’s getting the most production with what you have. As another blogger wrote, UTSA or was it Texas State, first year in D1 and getting it done. Same for Fresno St. with a new HC and staff. They’re getting it done.

  173. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 8:16 pm

    178. case and point, not all coaches know what they’re doing. thank you for that post.

  174. kama krab September 30, 2012 8:18 pm

    One thing I don’t understand is you’ve seen Chow go to some spread attack formation already. He’s used 4 wide, empty set’s, shotgun with split backs, I-formation, double tight, and the rest of kitchen sink this year already. Things have just not been working out for whatever reason. So where do we go from here. The way I see it is execution has not been the best and when execution has been semi-decent the play just hasn’t gone for as much yards as expected. There has been some bright spot in our offense, just not enough to write home about. Just gotta keep on working. Let’s just hope Chow doesn’t get desperate and do things he not used to doing.

  175. d1shima September 30, 2012 8:27 pm

    K. 48 hours pau.

  176. kama krab September 30, 2012 8:30 pm

    Agree with the three year argument. I think the three year thing is overrated. If progress can happen within your first year than great but I feel that most of the progress should be seen by the ending half of the first year going into the second year. If the coach is real exceptional you will usually see progress within the second half of the first year. That is why I am willing to take the lumps now just to see what type of team we really have. I thought the Nevada game would have been a good test early to see the teams progress and of course we got our butts handed to us. I see the next test to be the New Mexico game. If we get out butts in the that game then we will probably see some kind of changes come the end of the season.

    Recruiting should take care of itself and the argument of this is not Chow kids really does not matter cause most are on scholarship and should be fully able to adapt by the second half of the season. We shall see

  177. madeinhawaii September 30, 2012 8:30 pm


    Not dissing Coach Chow. Just don’t want to see him and the coaching staff stuck in first gear, doing the same things that aren’t working over and over and calling it training towards perfection. Yes, maybe if they do it a thousand more times they might start executing more often … maybe. I’m not sure the fans can wait that long. There is a Japanese saying… “Inu mo arukeba, bou ni ataru.” –“If a dog walks along, he’ll eventually come across a stick.” Keep doing the same think and eventually you get lucky is one way of looking at it, I kind of see it as the guy who keeps replaying a shampoo commercial sporting a hot looking woman hoping to see more or to see the towel drop the next time around…

  178. obachan September 30, 2012 8:32 pm

    Curious if it’s just my impression or does anyone else feel the same way? Watching Robert Kekaula interview coach on the TV show is not very informative at all. I’m not a student of the game so I watch the show hoping to gain coach’s specific insights and perspective to enlighten my understanding. But too many generalities tossed about such as “we gotta get better” and “it’s our fault not the players” doesn’t say much at all. Still think Chow is a good coach but Kekaula should ask more penetrating questions instead of lobbing softballs and would appreciate more specifics from the coach even if he hasn’t had time to review the game film.

  179. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 8:33 pm

    aya, i need to buy shampoo tomorrow.

  180. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 8:36 pm

    193. i notice that too, and also the Na Koa luncheon reports. Very vague unlike the past 2 regimes. I’m better off just listening to the post game comments. I gain nothing from the coach’s show or the luncheon.

  181. kama krab September 30, 2012 8:37 pm

    I think I’m going to join my buddy SAWARRIOR and go find me some good video/online games to play cause pretty soon the horse going be so flattened that gotta find another poor horse to beat. Hopefully Hawaii can fix the line of scrimmage and start moving the ball and defending the ball. Nuff Sed

  182. kama krab September 30, 2012 8:41 pm

    Kind of felt the same thing about the coaches show. That’s why I don’t bother to watch anymore. Kind of boring if you ask me. Now if you put Liz Chun back in there, now that’s a different story. Atleast she could hold down a decent football conversation. Or maybe Kanoa could take that position. He’s another that know’s how to question people.

  183. Kapahulukine September 30, 2012 8:46 pm

    Coach Chow has a fundamental misunderstanding of mid-major football. He’s never worked in this level. It’s like taking the old-timer manager of Roy’s and putting him in charge of an L&L in Waianae. There is no pipeline of four-star recruits headed to the islands. Not now, not in the future. Even JJ had a pro-background reputation; but that didn’t translate into an exodus of star high-school ballers. Talent here will always be uneven and sometimes mediocre to bad.

    The word Chow needs to learn is “opportunism”. Say what you want about JJ, but he usually was smart enough to take what the D was giving. Meaning you use the players most suited at this moment. AND most of your offensive scheme is just taking what the defense will give you. Okay, I understand the BYU blow out. But the UNR embarrassment was an absolutely a failure of defensive adjustment. (Remember when we totally shut down a potent Navy triple-option on the road, i think, three years ago). Opportunism would have dictated starting the right QB (Graves), who might have been able to avoid pressure, offer a run option, and got some kind of rhythm goiing with the receivers. That takes a flexible, imaginative coach. We have something of dinosaur, I’m afraid.

    Chow was quoting as saying he expected smash mouth football to work in Hawaii, because we had many polynesians, and they play tough style football. This is partly true; some polynesians are oustanding and tough ballers. And they usually head to the mainland. Some are second tier, and not so great. Chow somehow believes that four-star players will stick around simply because he has a “connection to the islands.” I don’t think today’s kids are as parochial, island style as when Chow grew up here. All young players are in constantly exposed to the mainland. Many spend a lot of time there, and so its no big deal.

    In fact, in future coach hiring decisions I would just jettison that “must have island connections” stipulation. We’ve moved beyond that. People just want the best man for the job. I don’t think Hawaiian prep players will really care, here going out, that the coach speaks pidgin, looks asian or whatever. Times have changed. UH fans know we probably aren’t BCS bound very often. Getting 8 or 9 wins, and not embarrassing the state is high on the list though.

  184. d1shima September 30, 2012 8:56 pm

    How’s the Raiders?

  185. Kapahulukine September 30, 2012 8:58 pm

    Kama Krab,

    I always thought JJ had interesting things to say, with his dry, reserved wit. Mac was just pleasant summarizer of the next week’s game, and potential strategy. I don’t think I’ll be watching Chow. If they gave him three hours he couldn’t explain away the team’s failures.

  186. madeinhawaii September 30, 2012 8:59 pm

    obachan, sawarrior….

    All part of the disconnect I feel this season. For some reason, I find it hard to get as excited as I was in seasons past. I hope that will change soon. I still love my Warrior football and the players.

  187. lava September 30, 2012 9:11 pm

    Kapahulukine, your thoughts on Chow are a good read. I am very impressed.

    I fear that throwing 100% of my support behind Chow means we will be that much longer in being competitive again. Chow hasn’t shown me anything yet. I like the change to man coverage, but now the guys need to learn to do that. Aside from that, the program has gone backward, and I fear it could get worse as we lose out in recruiting battles.

    Chow sentiments after the BYU game are the one thing I didn’t want to hear — stay status quo, no changes. Can we be more predictable?

    The fans have grwon accustomed to not only winning football, but entertaining football. Chow is clueless on this point.

  188. kama krab September 30, 2012 9:30 pm


    Not trying to diss anybody but this is probably the fastest I ever seen this type of discontent ever. Well I guess this is what the internet and more T.V. exposer has done to the game. Football will never be the same and for me watching U.H. football and coming on the blog will probably never be the same also. Just kind of crazy.

  189. kama krab September 30, 2012 9:32 pm

    Just 4 games into the season. Just crazy. Uncle Al where you stay. Uncle Kekoa where you stay. A-joe where you stay. Strech where you stay. Just not the same place I once love to come to win or lose.

  190. Kevin September 30, 2012 9:35 pm


    Be blessed you have a nice family and friends to reach out to.

    I think some people get te keyboard stuck to their hands.

    Seems like some lolos missed out on a whole weekend outside the house.

    ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†

  191. kama krab September 30, 2012 9:36 pm

    Only the first season with more than half the season still to go. Just crazy.

  192. kama krab September 30, 2012 9:38 pm


    I miss you braddah. Gotta come down and chat one of these games. Actually I miss all the crew. Hopefully get another get together so can see everybody.

  193. kama krab September 30, 2012 9:40 pm

    O.k. I done for today and probably the rest of the week but to all have a great week and go


  194. Kevin September 30, 2012 9:40 pm


    U still in the north end zone blue? I still get the same season tix.

  195. cocobean September 30, 2012 9:51 pm

    #201. Your last sentence more or less summarizes the feeling of most people that take the time to post on this and other blogs. Underneath it all everyone bleeds green. Even Steve and all his aliases.

    Everyone should be disappointed by what has transpired. The rising level of frustration is reflected in the posts. I’m not worried about the posters they may express their frustration but they’ll still show up at the games. What I’m worried about are the thousands of lurkers and occasional readers of this and other blogs who makeup the bandwagon. I said before I’m not worried about wins and losses but about attendance.

    Football revenues drives the UH Athletics bus. Mack and Von Appen were fired because their records induced a big drop in revenues. We as bleed greeners should do all we can to keep the band wagoners from jumping off.

    As thomas Paine wrote in the winter of 1776, ” these are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot(bandwagoners) shrink from the service of their…..

  196. madeinhawaii September 30, 2012 9:51 pm

    kama krab,

    Seems the less we know about the team and what is going on, the less we have to discuss… dunno… Just like all the hush hush regarding JD and everything else at UH, everything seems to be going underground and we, the fans, are in the dark.

    Took away our Head Coach.. our OC, DC, AD.. Run and Shoot… and in some sense… our team. No videos.. less pics of practices… etc… just so many previously open doors now shut. It’s like we don’t own a piece of the team anymore. It’s UH’s.. not Hawaii’s.

  197. NinjaWarriorTurtle September 30, 2012 9:57 pm

    It is not discontent. In the workforce, there is no “I know my numbers are down now, but it’s a work-in-progress, and in three years, I’ll get my numbers up.” Coach Chow knows this. He is not looking for any excuses. In his words, “This is Big-Boy Football.” It is what it is. Only results matter. This is the game.

  198. Slugger September 30, 2012 10:06 pm

    I attended the Na Koa lunch with Coach Chow speaking after the USC game. I got the feeling that he wasn’t going to expose a lot of strategy & what they were trying to do to keep the oppostion guessing. He was surprised that someone before the USC game asked about Soctt Harding punting; had to have been a spy at practice. So, I don’t think he’ll go into any depth about what’s happening & analysis of the game in public. Doesn’t USC keep their practices closed?

  199. Slugger September 30, 2012 10:13 pm

    Night all!

    PS: He did wear lei during the Warrior Walk. I think he needs to wear it during the game, but his glasses retainer & headset might get tangled in the lei. That might be the reason…

  200. madeinhawaii September 30, 2012 10:22 pm

    I suppose it’s like withdrawal symptoms or an unwelcome diet forced on you. It’s going to take a long time to get used to it. You many never like it, but what choice do you have? Over the past decade we had gotten used to knowing anything and everything about our players, their families, the plays, who’s benching what… shuttle speeds.. you name it. About the only thing we didn’t know was their actual heights.

    Thing is, the fact that this blog gets so many hits attests to the fact that there is a lot of interest in Warrior football.,

  201. Chicken Grease September 30, 2012 10:34 pm

    * * * POSITIVE THOUGHS * * *

    Warrior fans. Let’s direct positive thoughts to our football Warriors. Let’s VISUALIZE our Warriors making great passes, great catches, great TDs. Yes.

    Let’s make that time if we find ourselves with a lack of time to do these positive thoughts. Don’t hate the other team (a Grease is guilty of according colorful expressions toward recent football opponents of the Warriors. And he will stop). Hate is not needed.

    WE NEED TO SEND POSITIVE THOUGHTS TO OUR WARRIORS. Positive thoughts work. Look at Stutzmann’s recent hand recovery. He got back on the field in NO time. And how did that fast heal happen? Tha’s right you Warrior fans who essentially want to see the Warrior football team win, you Warrior fans — who will soon (and often) be sittin’ Indian style, palms up, knuckles resting on your knees, eyes closed, both middle fingers pressing gently on the tip of your respective thumbs, breathing in slowly, breathing out slowly, got some earplugs in to shut out the noise, visualizing short term and long term Warrior football victory — yes, indeed, we will learn from Stutzmann’s way of visualizing success and what is desired. Visualize positivity to result in Ws. Mmmmph. Feels good!

    Direct your positive thoughts to the Warrior football program. As much as you can. Let’s saturate this week with positive thoughts to the Warrior football program. I’d say “prayer works, so, please PRAY for the Warriors”; but, some of you don’t pray! So, we need to meet where we can all meet . . . and let’s do those Warrior victory visualizations on the field. Positive thoughts. See that scoreboard with a two touchdown lead going into halftime. VISUALIZE YA’LL OWN POSITIVE THOUGHTS, SUCCESSFUL PLAYS OF FOOTBALL WARRIORS.

    SEND YO’ POSITIVE THOUGHTS, TALK TO THOSE WARRIORS. TELL THEM THEY CAN WIN THE SAME AGAINST ANY TEAM IN THE SAME WAY THEY BEAT LAMAR. Ooooooh, Warrior fans!!!! I KNOW you can taste it; you can taste those positive thoughts. Yummy and ono.

    Work on that Warrior fans. POSITIVE THOUGHTS for the Warrior football team. It can work if we genuinely all do it.

    Share your positive thoughts of a forthcoming Warrior football victory if it pleases you, hai, onegaishimasu:

  202. Capitolist/WassupDoc September 30, 2012 10:35 pm

    On Wednesday, October 3, the Hawaii County Council will hear Resolution No. 303-12, which urges the Hawaii State Legislature to abolish the Public Land Development Corporation (PLDC).

    Just to remind all of you: ACT 282 -2012 establishes the Stadium Special Fund to be administered jointly by the Stadium Authority and the PLDC by (re)developing segments of the 115 acres of parking lots surrounding the Stadium through establishing public-private partnerships. The $$$$ raised over the next 30 years (an estimated $250 million) would be used for a wide range of capital improvements, upgrades & expansions of the facility without having to get the money from the taxpayers.

    If the PLDC is rescinded/abolished, the supporters of the Stadium Special Fund will have to look for another way to continue its existence. It took several of us well over two years of research and educating & informing elected officials and high-level administrators about the importance Aloha Stadium plays in UH’s future in intercollegiate athletics.

    For those of you who live in Hawai`i County or feel that it’s important to let the Councilmembers know that you support UH’s participation in NCAA Division 1-A athletics – especially football which provides support for the other 19 intercollegiate sports – please contact Lloyd Haraguchi, Executive Director, Public Land Development Corporation. His e-mail address is Lloyd dot M dot Haraguchi at hawaii dot gov to get further information as to how to let the Councilmembers know your position.

    There is a deadline for submitting testimony – 11:00 a.m. on Tuesday, October 2, 2012.

    Mahalo for taking action.

  203. Chicken Grease September 30, 2012 10:37 pm

    Heh. Ah. Mistake already. Well. Good thing you can still have positive thoughts after catching your mistakes. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    The instance of * * * POSITIVE THOUGHS * * *, above, should have been, ahem:

    * * * POSITIVE THOUGHTS * * *. Not “thoughs.”

  204. Moocher September 30, 2012 11:58 pm

    I still say we got bad mana cause chow not wearing a lei during the game…if he wears the lei i know we will win.

    if he worried about it getting tangled up just wear the old style may day lei we all had made from coconut tree palms and shred em. at least the front stays open so no need worry about tangles.

    wear the may day lei and everything will come to fruition.

  205. Chicken Grease October 1, 2012 12:53 am

    But — respectfully, Moocher — if Coach Chow doesn’t end up wearing a lei any time . . . what can we do to buttress these Warriors to victory.

    Mmmmm hmmmm. See? We all beginning to think the same, yeah? No matter what? That’s right. You’re all correct. We do positive thoughts.

    Let’s saturate positive thoughts so that these Warriors can penetrate . . . yeah. Dedicate 1/2 ya’ll free time this week (suggestion, suggestion) to doing positive, reinforcement, Warrior victory visualization.

    In your quiet moments, allow yourself this positivity. Go, “ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm” [breathe in] “ummmmmmmmmmmm” [breathe out]. See great Warrior plays. See them gain, earn, achieve victory.

    Speaking of “victory,” can you feel it? Like the Jacksons? Can you feel it (all the people ’round the world . . .)

  206. oahu resident October 1, 2012 1:20 am

    I recall Bob Wagner’s rationale for bringing in Paul Johnson, i.e. that Hawaii could not recruit the talented linemen, receivers, running backs and QBs required to run a standard offense. In order to beat BYU, a specialty offense, i.e. Paul Johnson’s spread/option was required. Later June Jones implemented his own specialty offense with significant success.

    I think coach Chow is utilizing an offense that doesn’t fit the level of talent he has or will have.

    The lack of offense is definitely hurting the defense, but they appear to have their own problems. The lack of interior linemen is definitely a problem which is getting worse with the injuries.

  207. maddog50 October 1, 2012 1:56 am

    I want to believe so I will continue to do so. I still believe when all is said and done….we will recruit better than in the past….when all is said and done it will be a competitive product…..right now I think adjustments are taking place and evolving. I believe, despite the injuries that some of the personnel take a large step forward soon….I hope it is this week. Want nothing more than a good effort….I know this hurts many like it does me—I can not help but believe nobody wants more to succeed than Norm Chow and his staff—-lets get this done—–

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  209. wafan October 1, 2012 2:15 am

    Welcome to October!

    9/12 of 2012 gone. Three months to go.

    Sheesh . . .

  210. Moocher October 1, 2012 2:20 am

    most people are positive…

    i happen to think the negativity comes in when people are being realistic.

    and because perhaps people choose to not want to hear what is obviously being seen, a valid argument gets rejected and people are seen as negative.

    there really are only two things to be done as a positive fan. support the coach by saying thats ok thats alright i know it’ll all come together in a few years. or support the coach by saying hey coach why not consider this….and we are asking you to consider it because we dont want guys to mentally check out and for recruits to forget about us because we are losing.

    don’t our seniors at least deserve a chance to have a winning season instead of giving up on them with the argument of sorry, this is a rebuilding year so you’ll just have to forget about a positively memorable senior year?

    anyways, IMHO ๐Ÿ™‚

  211. rockyk October 1, 2012 3:47 am

    Kama Krab,

    whats the vibe from punahou kids on the UH coaches? we get chance or what?

  212. 3-Prong October 1, 2012 4:00 am

    Oahu resident, i think you make a good point. As long as we are in a mid-Major conference earning mid-major payouts we will continue to recruit mid-major talent because of our mid-major facilities. Wags brought in the option, JJ the run and shoot. Both allow for success without a host of 4-star talent. The big question is whether or not Chow can craft success with his schemes over time once his players are in place. BUT, Patience Warrior Nation.The di have been caste and we need to give this time to play out no matter what the consequences are early on. GO WARRIORS! I STILL BELIEVE.

  213. helencalif October 1, 2012 5:15 am


    Good to hear there are some football coaches on this blog. I have a question of you …

    I am told that few high schools use the pro-style offense or the pro-set offense. And few jr. colleges as well.

    If this is true, where is Chow going to get recruits with this offense experience? Won’t he be starting out next year, too, having to convert recruits to how he wants to play offense — including the QB’s as Chow is the qb coach?

  214. Pauoa Boy October 1, 2012 5:17 am

    The thing that pisses me off the most about what’s going on with the team is the will to win games. Okay, I know the boys are playing hard or whatever, but there is a difference in just playing the game hard and playing the game with a willingness to win. Seems like a few players have it and the rest are just playing to play. Yeah they may come onto the field looking amped, doing the haka or whatever but in reality when the game whistle blows, seems like they just run out of steam. I can see it on the field, their body language, the hustle, the willingness to go hard on every down. If you really key into what’s going on, there are numerous guys who take some plays off and get ran over easily. The few, who you all can pretty much tell who goes hard every down need to get the rest of the team up to par. Guys like Mike Edwards, Beau Yap, John Hardy-Tuliau, Tony Grimes, NeQuan Phillips… I mean at times they get beat too but you can see that they will grind hard on every play. There are others too but these few standout. Execution is lacking on both sides of the ball though. On offense, I’m sorry but Schroeder is frustrating to watch. Some say he has the “it” factor, can read defenses well or whatever. It could be the Oline, receivers not getting open as factors for the poor offensive performances. To me, I’ve seen him have ample time to get the ball out. If receivers aren’t open or the pocket is breaking down, he has options. Throw to the check down guy, scramble and move the pocket for some time, run forest run, or throw the ball away. I haven’t seen any of this happening. He holds on to the ball way too long, has absolutely no mobility, and he throws a decent ball but he needs a little more velocity on it. The QB should be the one position that can will the offense on the field with his play alone. It seems like Schroeder is going backwards in his progress and getting worse each game. The interceptions he’s thrown lately are some throws where I’m like what the hell? Throwing into double coverage or keying in on the primary target way too long. I mean if he’s reading defenses so well then what’s the excuse? Also, the sacks, yes a few have been Oline breakdowns but some have just been him looking like a sitting duck. On defense, I feel we have the players. Yes the Dline is taking major hits, but our linebackers should be the strong point of this unit. Our linebackers have been getting taken out of plays so easily, it is why why are literally getting spanked. Nevada and BYU just trampled our boys like nothing. I do think the schemes are getting exploited. The blitzing angles are getting read as well which is why our boys are getting sealed off and teams are gaining chunks of yards with ease. I don’t know but I hope the coaches and players start getting it together because it’s a long season left ahead and if we’re at the bottom right now, we can only go up! I believe we can put out a better showing than what we’ve been watching these last two weeks, but again, if the will to win isn’t there and they are just showing up to play, we will continue to see the same results!

  215. Pauoa Boy October 1, 2012 5:27 am

    Also, as a Coach when you don’t have the superior talent levels to run what you want to run, it’s obvious you need to figure out how to best utilize the talent you have. We’ve got players, and to me, yes the all-stars makes it easier to do what you want to do, but I will take a guy who goes hard and plays smart any day. It just takes everyone to be on the same page, to have that same willingness to go hard and to have each others back. Coaches just need to figure out a way to get the boys to all play hard and smart and play together. The execution will come with repetition and practice. They all need to trust each other and figure it out quick…

  216. Shoko October 1, 2012 5:32 am

    Morning, folks!

  217. d1shima October 1, 2012 5:33 am

    Great Morning All!


    Go Warriors!

  218. d1shima October 1, 2012 5:35 am

    How many “stingers” is too many for a football player?

    Wise decisions.

  219. Pauoa Boy October 1, 2012 5:43 am

    All I want to see is our boys going hard the whole game and actually playing with some heart! I don’t care too much about the wins and losses, as the wins will come if they play together, play smart, play hard, and play with the willingness to win games. Getting blown out by teams that we can beat just doesn’t cut it. USC, well we’re not on their level yet. Lamar, might as well have been playing a high school team. Nevada, no excuse, it’s the same team we’ve been beating previously and yes Fajardo and Jefferson are good, we just made them look great. No way should we have been blown out. BYU, I hate them, but again they are not as good as we made them look. Being blown out by a rival school to me is an embarrassment. If it was any game to get amped up for it should have been that one, knowing that they have been our rivals for years! Still, they just whooped our asses! So again no excuses, and I’m not asking for miracles to happen but I would like to see some better efforts on the field from the whole team, coaches on down to the players. Getting blown out, not being able to score, and giving up almost 40 points a game to every D1 school we’ve faced is unacceptable!

  220. mo808 October 1, 2012 5:43 am

    Good Morning Folks! Saturday and a WIN can’t come fast enough!

  221. mo808 October 1, 2012 5:45 am

    Go Warriors Go!!!

  222. Kekoa October 1, 2012 6:11 am

    PB ~ After seeing a few of the players being interviewed on tape recently, I have to agree with you about their seemingly lack of ‘will’ to win. Their body language speaks volumes.

    Taking a page out of the military way of instilling motivation, it’s time for the team Captains to get the team together prior to practice and leading them thru a quick series of warm-up drills designed for them to get fired up and sound off to let the coaches know they are Always Ready! This will help them prepare to get some serious work done at practice. Never backwards, always forward, the Warrior way.

  223. LizKauai (iPad) October 1, 2012 6:42 am

    Frankly, i prefer finesse and smarts in sports. Smashmouth anything is too much like cannonfodder thinking and I would not recommend it for any living creature, much less a child.

    I guess thats why my kids were swimmers and soccer players.

  224. Shoko October 1, 2012 6:43 am

    If there is a lack of motivation, it sounds like the Warriros program could use a full-time mental conditioning coach.

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