From today’s practice:

• Defensive tackle Haku Correa underwent surgery today for a displaced fracture in his foot. Usually, this is a season-ending injury, but a new aggressive operation will be used in the hope he can return in six weeks.

• Left tackle Clayton Laurel has been hobbling because of a sore foot. But he is expected to play. And while David Lefotu has received a lot of work at right guard, Andrew Faaumu will get the start. So here’s the starting offensive line: LT Laurel, LG Brett Leonard, C Matagisila Lefiti, RG Faaumu, RT Levi Legay.

• Don’t expect Miah Ostrowski to play. He didn’t practice today. Justin Clapp gets his second start.

• Linebacker Brendan Daley will undergo foot surgery tomorrow and miss the rest of the season. He was a 3-for-2 player, so he’ll get to redshirt this year.

• D-end Tavita Woodard has been told he will need to undergo a two-week rehabilitation program for his surgically repaired foot. He’s targeting the San Jose State game as his return.

• Desmond Dean suffered an apparent knee injury today. He was helped off the field.

• ESPN Australia was at practice shooting a segment on returner/slotback Scott Harding and offensive lineman Blake Muir. Muir has received a lot of reps, but UH won’t use him unless there’s an emergency. They don’t want to waste what could be a redshirt year.

* * * * * *

UC Davis coach Bob Biggs is quite the character.

He also has local ties, having lived in Kaimuki for two years in the 1970s. He said he worked as a recreation coordinator at the Palolo Recreation Center in the mid-1970s. His friendship with the Vasconcellos family helped lead him to the islands after he was cut by the Denver Broncos.

Biggs credits Virginia Hinshaw, who will be retiring as the Manoa chancellor in June, as being helpful in setting up this game.


  1. d1shima September 22, 2011 6:07 am


    Perfect practice…and all that.

  2. d1shima September 22, 2011 6:08 am



  3. Old School Dave September 22, 2011 6:12 am

    Throw out win/loss records, the point spread, classification, facilities, etc – the team that blocks and tackles best will win the game. In many ways, football is a very simple game.

  4. rich2176 September 22, 2011 6:13 am

    ST – Game is Saturday, not tomorrow.

    Hoping to catch it on ESPN3. Shouldn’t be blacked out here on the west coast.

  5. jm2375 September 22, 2011 6:26 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!!

    Top 5? Top 10!

    Best wishes for a speedy recovery to Cenn’s Kayla.


    And, as the Wahine head into the uno, dos, adios portion of the season, aka, the WAC regular season…

    GO WAHINE!!!

  6. LizKauai (macbook) September 22, 2011 6:28 am



  7. LizKauai (macbook) September 22, 2011 6:31 am

    Go Wildcats x2!

    Virginia Hinshaw- I for one will miss seeing you at the games. Thanks for supporting our student-athletes!!!

  8. koakane September 22, 2011 6:32 am

    morning wow in top ten very honored haven’t been for a while

    btw beginning of Aloha Week watch out for parade on sat and Hoolaulea in Waikiki

    on Friday

  9. Slugger September 22, 2011 6:33 am

    Good morning, gang!

    Mahalo to Virginia Hinshaw for all you’ve done at UH. It’s always been nice to see the Chancellor at the games.

  10. koakane September 22, 2011 6:36 am

    pardon Imua to the UH wahines and kanes going into battle this week.

  11. bigislandkurt September 22, 2011 6:43 am

    One would think that with the company being owned by a former UH player, there would be more willingness to work with Nate, especially during football season, to make the announcing gig work. Po ho, I really wanted to see Nate break into the broadcasting scene. He is a talented guy who is well-spoken.


  12. Slugger September 22, 2011 6:44 am

    Prayers for Cenn’s Kayla.

  13. tom-warriornation September 22, 2011 6:45 am

    Group rate tickets for Reno game on Nov. 12

    Tickets are only $22; the regular rate is $29 and I am NOT charging a $10 service fee per ticket. Just called the Reno ticket office; they still get plenty good seats in the UH section–L (30 yard line–rows 4 thru 29) behind the team–the team will do the haka right in front of us!

    For the map of stadium seating, open this link and click “Mackay Stadium”:…ckets.html

    PS: there is gambling in Reno; lol–but not for the players!

    Email me at:

    PSS: We had 125 in our group at UW; and we get almost 200 for San Jose (let me know also if u need tickets for SJSU for only $25 group rate; compared to $45).

  14. tom-warriornation September 22, 2011 6:46 am

  15. LizKauai (macbook) September 22, 2011 7:00 am

    From Facebook:

    “Cenn Cee

    We are more than grateful. Our Kayla suffered a concussion tonight in high school volleyball (she’ll dive to save that ball) and was immediately taken to Queen’s Hospital in serious condition. CAT scan looked good though, but they are keeping her for observation.

    Thank you so much for your prayers and positive thoughts. Give your kids extra hugs and kisses now…”

    She dove and hit her head on the concrete…

    God Bless and Complete Healing!

  16. chopsueyboy September 22, 2011 7:09 am

    Good Morning Tsai-kos!

  17. Pomai September 22, 2011 7:35 am

    UH vs UCD

    17    –    52    Laura

    20    –    28    clowns nose

    24    –    21    mikey

    27    –    27    anklebiters

    28    –    07    Candy

    28    –    21    jojo

    28    –    24    LizKauai

    31    –    14    gmahoney

    31    –    28    WassupDoc

    31    –    35    Pride

    34    –    24    BigWave96744

    35    –    10    ms momo

    35    –    14    kawika49

    35    –    17    Bowwar

    38    –    14    wafan

    38    –    28    longdistance808

    41    –    20    eagle

    41    –    21    DPK

    42    –    10    BleedGreen808

    42    –    10    Pomai

    42    –    14    momo

    45    –    10    Jack Flash

    48    –    17    kev-1

    49    –    14    Tchahng

    52    –    17    postmanke

    54    –    13    madeinhawaii

    55    –    14    Ipu Man

    56    –    13    Kekoa

    56    –    14    d1shima

    72    –    00    RedZone

  18. Da Punchbowl Kid September 22, 2011 7:38 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂

    Prayers for Kayla!

  19. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 7:39 am

    What? We have a game tomorrow? Nobody told me!…

  20. Stephen Tsai September 22, 2011 7:44 am

    Thanks for the calendar. I’ll change it when I get to a computer.

  21. hawnstln September 22, 2011 7:45 am

    Lizkauai, got it and we’ll try to make it to Poipu. My son is in charge of our schedule and the car so I’m not 100% sure, but if we get to watch the game, my first choice will be there. Hope to see you since I missed you in Vegas – I walked around the entire section with SteveM doing the introductions (Mahalo SM). I’ll check the blog on Saturday to see if there are any changes.

  22. hawnstln September 22, 2011 7:46 am

    MY best to Kayla and hope for a speedy recovery!!

  23. chawan_cut September 22, 2011 7:46 am

    pacquiao vs mayweather in hawaii? possibly? according to michael green on 1420am.

  24. A-joe September 22, 2011 7:51 am

    ‘Sports and I send our deepest prayers and aloha to Kayla and Cenn’s ‘Ohana.

  25. mikey September 22, 2011 7:52 am

    It’s too bad that Nate had to withdraw from broadcasting UH games. I’m sure he will have another opportunity in time. For now he wants to concentrate on his first job of scan imaging day in day out, which is most important. I’m sure he will do quite well.

    I’ve had this procedure done twice now, and the first time was a little frightening. Second time wasn’t so bad. But this technology is amazing to see your internal body in 3D with a powerful magnetic scanning. This is what most of our athletes go through now when they are injured.

    Here’s a sample video of MRI Scanning pictures:

    We all wish Nate well and accomplish what he set out to do.

  26. Kevin September 22, 2011 7:53 am


    September 22nd, 2011 at 7:46 am

    pacquiao vs mayweather in hawaii?

    Boycott. If the two wanted to fight and who’s the best it would have happened already. From blood work excuses from Pacquiao’s corner to Mayweather… being Mayweather…

    Enough already.

  27. Kevin September 22, 2011 7:56 am

    How many times already we’ve seen volleyball players dig for a ball and resulting injury. It’s not frequent, but I remember when Ric Cervantes went for a dig, got it, but slammed his shoulder into the teraflex.

    Best wishes to Kayla indeed.

  28. Kevin September 22, 2011 8:04 am

    I don’t think I’m speaking out of place when I say, those that understand the value of UH athletics to the university and state as a whole should be weary and vigilant about who is the next Manoa Chancellor.

    I liked Hinshaw and respected Hinshaw and at the least she voiced her opinions in support of UH athletics and the student-athletes. While she didn’t have a hand in the MWC/BWC deal, her presence alone representing the upper campus was refreshing.

    The LAST thing we need is to revert and succumb to those that still wish death upon the athletic department of the university they claim they “love”.

  29. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 8:17 am

    I don’t want to see one that was like her predecessor… trying to keep the AD from speaking out and asking for help. We need greater transparency from our public institution and Hinshaw was a step in the right direction. Maybe it isn’t Hinshaw that really should be replaced but someone or others higher up.

  30. Glenn September 22, 2011 8:19 am

    Hoping people show up on Saturday. Watch the Warriors make their comeback.

    UH 35, UCD 28

    Go Warriors!

  31. Mario September 22, 2011 8:26 am

    UH 63 UC Davis 21

  32. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 8:28 am

    Are we breaking in some of our redshirt freshman in the Oline this weekend?

  33. Kevin September 22, 2011 8:28 am


    Autonomy…. The value of it is a lot to some people, but the people in the athletic department know that they need help from the legislature and some just don’t want UHAD to ask for it for fear of losing that image of autonomy.

    Same people would rather see UH athletics DIE if they had their way.

    Been hearing this for years on and off and sometimes when things hit a snag… one must wonder………..

    With all that working against UH athletics, it’s amazing how we got around all that to get into the MWC and BWC.

    Remember the articles following our invite, didn’t one name JUMP out at you as to some of the people credited with helping UH move towards the MWC and BWC???


    Howard Carr and others that I cannot remember at this time all played roles too, but just seeing that name… brought “chills” to my spine, in a good way.

    Now as far as those wanting nothing to do with athletics and those that will NEVER see it’s value to the university and the state, I dunno who exactly they are, but they are there.

  34. koakane September 22, 2011 8:29 am

    Prayers for Kayla and Cenn’s ‘Ohana.

  35. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 8:34 am

    Off topic…

    “CERN claims faster-than-light particle measured”

    Hate when things like this happen and you gotta unlearn a fundamental belief and restructure your personal universe. It will take more than a generation before everyone aknowledges something faster than the speed of light.

    So do neutrinos move backward in time?

  36. Hawaiianbod September 22, 2011 8:35 am

    God bless Kayla. My prayers and good thoughts are with you.

  37. Hawaiianbod September 22, 2011 8:39 am

    Howzit MIH! Did you see the discussion re McSodium last night after you went to sleep? Hope our BP is better this a.m.!

  38. Kevin September 22, 2011 8:42 am

    The pure hatred for UH athletics with some of those representing the academic side of the university is something that I cannot really describe.

    When attending that BOR meeting where they voted to activate the student athletic fee, those in opposition that represented the faculty in various forms were quite disrespectful and immature.

    Those in opposition of the fee were not all like that. There were some that projected their opinions against it and while I didn’t believe that, at least they presented their argument in a respectful manner.

    But yeah, fans of NMSU athletics could also relate as they too have issues between academics and athletics.

    And for the schools that flourish athletically and academically… well, you’ll never hear of these issues.

    Just like this country of ours, until there is middle ground. We will NEVER achieve our true potential.

  39. Kekoa September 22, 2011 8:47 am

    Heal Kayla. We are all hoping for your speedy recovery, and can appreciate the extreme effort you made for your team. You are…Tsai-ko!

  40. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 8:48 am


    Thanks for the heads up regarding last night’s blog… and Thank YOU everyone! for your good wishes!!

    I did take a potassium pill before sleeping.. and an aspirin…along with a heaping tablespoon of Metamucil so all is well in the morning.. back down to 125! There must be something besides salt in those Mickey D sandwiches that shoot my BP up so high… I eat salty chinese dried seeds regularly and get no reaction from those. Maybe it’s the kind of oils they use?

  41. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 8:48 am

    Prayers for Kayla and her family. Hope she recovers completely.

  42. Bulla September 22, 2011 8:52 am

    Prayers for Kayla and her ohana 🙂

  43. Da Punchbowl Kid September 22, 2011 8:54 am

    “Hate when things like this happen and you gotta unlearn a fundamental belief and restructure your personal universe. It will take more than a generation before everyone aknowledges something faster than the speed of light.”

    Yeah, I hate when that happens. 😆

    Take care o’ yaself mih!

  44. Shoko September 22, 2011 8:57 am

    Morning folks!

    Remember ST writing a story last year about UH using a version of the Pistol offense and giving it their own name. But for the life of me, I can’t remember the name. Was it Kiko or something like that? Anyone know?

  45. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 8:57 am

    My family and I offer deep prayers for Kayla and family.

  46. polywarrior4life September 22, 2011 8:57 am

    Good Morning,

    Win or lose, we still Babooz!

    Warrior Nation Rise Up! Let’s kick some okole!

    Warriors 63 UCD 0

  47. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 8:59 am


    That’s an odd name. Wouldn’t RnSHOOT be fitting since it’s out of the Pistol formation.

  48. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 9:03 am


    Wasn’t it the O’kini?

  49. Cindy n Greg Cee (Cenn) September 22, 2011 9:03 am

    Mahalo to all.. for your prayers for my granddaughter Kayla. She is just 15 but was put on the Leilehua Varsity VBall from last year because she is an awesome player. Hence, she dove for that shank ball… no guts/no glory, right? Was so scary to have her unconscious but she is okay and expected to go home later today.

    In the meanwhile, they need to “undim” that darkish Aiea HS gym…

    Wishing the UH Warriors da best!!!


  50. Shoko September 22, 2011 9:03 am

    Well, the only reason I ask is because I read a story in the Vegas paper where Hauck credited the Pistol offense in their win against the Warriors. He also said he didn’t want to use the Pistol name, which made me think of what the Warriors named it.

  51. rainbowfan September 22, 2011 9:04 am

    UC Davis radio man on Curran show said that they have speedy receivers and speedy secondary players. Also the quarterback can throw pretty good. Sounds dangerous for UH. Hope UH being home helps.

  52. tom mui September 22, 2011 9:04 am


    And best wishes and fast recovery for Kayla!

    And may I ask for prayers for Lynn Shoji (Kelvin’s wife).






  53. Stretch September 22, 2011 9:04 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!

    #46 – polywarrior4life – is that “we” or “he”??

  54. WarriorNY September 22, 2011 9:05 am


    UH 65 – UCD 10

  55. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 9:08 am

    Aiea High School gym issues?

    Mark Takai is the representative to speak to if I am not mistaken.

    Go get ’em Tsaikos. =)

  56. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 9:08 am


    Glad to hear that Kayla will be going home. Best wishes and continued success to her on/off the court!

  57. d1shima September 22, 2011 9:11 am

    Cindy n Greg Cee (Cenn),

    Best wishes to Kayla and her Ohana. Speedy and complete recovery!

  58. Shoko September 22, 2011 9:11 am


    I have no idea if it was Kiko or O’Kini. All I know it was something I never heard of before.


    Or RnS Plus.

  59. Garret September 22, 2011 9:11 am

    Best wishes for Kayla.

    Hope for a speedy recovery for Momo after his eye surgery. I hope that his pain goes away quickly and that he can make the UC-Davis game.

  60. Garret September 22, 2011 9:12 am

    I hope that everyone can practice today and that UH has as full a team available as possible. However, if there is a danger for aggravating an injury, I hope that those players sit out or have limited snaps in the UC-Davis game. UH needs its team to be ready to go in Ruston.

  61. d1shima September 22, 2011 9:12 am


    Hate those pokes in the eye…

    Speedy recovery Momo!

  62. Garret September 22, 2011 9:13 am

    Rick Pitino seems to be sure that Air Force and Navy are joining soon.

    Pitino said he was told that the Big East will add service academies Air Force and Navy by the end of the week — but only in football.

  63. Garret September 22, 2011 9:15 am

    Navy’s AD said that independence worked for them for years…but independence won’t work much longer and they have to join a conference. That sure indicates that they are joining the Big East. I think that the Big East makes sense for them…I just hate the thought of the MWC losing Air Force.

    If you take a look at what is happening with conferences today, they are basically going to be creating a monopoly. They are going to monopolize television. They are going to monopolize bowls. And they are going to monopolize scheduling. The speech that I have been giving for 10 years as athletic director may not be applicable for the next decade. And that’s why we have to be thinking about the future and not about where we are today. Today it works. Tomorrow, the way I see it, it probably doesn’t and therefore we have to be thinking of some type of conference affiliation very seriously and we are doing just that.

  64. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 9:15 am

    Whoops.. Shoko..

    O’kini is Samoan.. maybe it was O’kina which is Hawaiian for that little accent between the “i”s in Hawai`i.

  65. BigWave96744 September 22, 2011 9:19 am

    Isn’t Michael Green the guy who blasted Mack on the BC show for not recruiting Judah Parker and then the other night on the Call The Coach Show blasted Mack for giving UCDavis too much credit?

  66. Kevin September 22, 2011 9:20 am

    Who’s Michael Green?

  67. Garret September 22, 2011 9:21 am

    Reflecting on Navy’s AD’s full interview, it sure sounds like the indy route would be even harder for UH in the future than had been thought. Navy already has scheduled games for 5-7 years as an indy, but even with such a long lead time their AD is saying they won’t be able to schedule games as an indy in the era of superconferences.

  68. Kevin September 22, 2011 9:22 am

    Oh nevermind. 😆

  69. Kevin September 22, 2011 9:23 am


    Personally, I think UH shouldn’t even consider independency for ANY sport at all no matter what.

  70. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 9:26 am

    I doubt AF is a done deal.

    Where would they put their other sports? Would the MWC let them keep non-football in MWC when they don’t add beans to anything? I doubt it.

    Big LEast can have AF in all its glory or AF needs to be hoping some Big West, WCC or something takes their non-football sports.

    Going from a so-so league (MWC) to a crappy league (BLEAST) where you won’t get any share of the BBall fortune and fame.

  71. Kevin September 22, 2011 9:26 am

    Only ONE sport at UH Manoa could still survive on independancy and that is women’s volleyball.

    But even that is a reach.

  72. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 9:26 am

    The only Michael Green I know is the prominent defense attorney in honolulu. I doubt that is the same person though.

  73. Old Diver September 22, 2011 9:27 am

    Isn’t Michael Green the guy who had to later apologize to Coach Mack for making a false claim that UH didn’t try to recruit Judah Parker?

  74. Kevin September 22, 2011 9:28 am


    Well, the way his name has been mentioned here it appears to be a public figure of some note so I assume people think it’s the attorney.

  75. Garret September 22, 2011 9:28 am


    Reports say that Air Force has already contacted the WCC and WAC to put their non-football teams. Travel considerations apparently make Air Force not want full membership in the Big East.

  76. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 9:29 am

    Whoever this Green guy is, must sure be a baller….That is IF he can set this match up.

  77. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 9:31 am


    If its the attorney then he IS a baller regardless of the match. lol. Hawaii Loa Ridge and all.

    Not many attorney’s in Honolulu pull up with their $500,000 Bentley and walk around inside circuit court wearing $1500 sunglasses and wearing $4000 suits. lol.

    One of the best defense attorneys out there. He was well known for defending the MOB figures in Las Vegas.

  78. Old Diver September 22, 2011 9:32 am

    Wow, seems kinda strange to have your football team in a eastern conference and all your other sports in a western conference.

  79. Kevin September 22, 2011 9:33 am

    Defending organized criminals in Vegas nonetheless huh???

    What’s the matter??? His buddies couldnt cash in when UH was favored on Saturday??? 😆

  80. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 9:36 am

    Hopefully the WAC says no…they have enough non-football sports in there. They need more Football programs to remain stable NOT olympic sports.

    WCC: Just because AF has that beautiful chapel in the Springs doesn’t make it a religious institution. Hopefully their desire to have religious affiliated schools puts a damper on their application. I also think they wouldn’t be able to compete in basketball in the WCC.

  81. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 9:37 am

    Innocent until proven guilty. 😛

    God Bless America

  82. TChahng September 22, 2011 9:39 am


    September 22nd, 2011 at 9:08 am

    Aiea High School gym issues?

    Mark Takai is the representative to speak to if I am not mistaken. …

    Blake Oshiro is the Rep. for Aiea… 🙂

  83. AlaWai September 22, 2011 9:40 am


    Hawaii 50

    UCD 0

    Hopeful optimist

  84. Kevin September 22, 2011 9:41 am

    Pearl City and Aiea are two different things.

    Border is Kaahumanu St.

    OR depends on where your favorite manapua truck is parked. 😆

    Don’t tell a Pearl City boy he’s from Aiea!!!!

    (nah I dunno, we don’t care.)

  85. Shoko September 22, 2011 9:42 am

    Just split the 120 football teams into a 60 team conference and call it a mega conference. 😉


  86. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 9:42 am


    Thanks for the correction. Lots of the area Reps/Senators will dovetail their efforts in CIP $ requests.

    That is if any of Takai’s constituents are within the AHS district etc.

  87. LizKauai September 22, 2011 9:43 am

    hawnstln: Poipu is ON FOR SATURDAY!


    Please join us at KALAPAKI JOE’S in POIPU

    (there is another restaurant in Kalapaki- not that one)

    To watch the Warriors play UC Davis on PPV.

    Game starts at 6:00 PM so come a little early to get settled in.

    This is Kymry’s regular group – minus Kymry this time – but she still needs a headcount to assure enough seating.

    Please RSVP asap to: lizkauai at gmail dot com.


  88. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 9:43 am


    Or keep all 120 under an umbrella and do a playoff and call it the Legitimate Sports League. hahaha

  89. Kevin September 22, 2011 9:44 am


    Brah, you should know where all the peeps in your party stay.

    Just sayin .. 😉

  90. chopsueyboy September 22, 2011 9:45 am


    UH 45 – 14

  91. SailorBlue September 22, 2011 9:46 am

    Pomai ~ please put me down for UH 38 – Davis 17

  92. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 9:48 am


    Without going into it..When you have such a huge super-majority, you tend to have factions within it. =P

  93. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 9:51 am


    HaWhyEe – 49

    The Davies Group – 13

  94. (Jesse) James September 22, 2011 9:52 am

    Good morning gang…

    Best wishes and prayers for Kayla…and all those who need it…

  95. TChahng September 22, 2011 9:58 am

    AHS district has three Reps. Takai, Oshiro, Johanson. Three smart guys should be able fund better lighting in the AHS gym. 😉

  96. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 10:00 am



  97. Hawaiianbod September 22, 2011 10:02 am

    Healing prayers also go out to Momo amd Lynn Shoji. God bless!

  98. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 10:10 am

    Air Force takes the Big East Football only invite.

    Then at the grand ole welcoming reception in Rhode Island they realize that several people are missing…Namely Louisville, West Virginia, Rutgers, and UConn. How rude, they never even showed up…Where are they?

    *Flash over to ACC HQ in North Carolina*

    Oh there they are….

  99. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 10:11 am


    You were right.. it is the “Kiko”…

  100. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 10:14 am

    Somehow I don’t think the “KIKO” offense will be accredited to UH on ESPN..Nor do I think I want it to. lol.

  101. A-House September 22, 2011 10:22 am

    Prayers and best wishes to Kayla for a speedy and full recovery!!

  102. A-House September 22, 2011 10:23 am

    UNLV pistol offense:

    make sure their RB is a lot faster than UH LBs and DBs going around end.

  103. tom mui September 22, 2011 10:29 am

    I recall meeting Virginia Hinshaw for the first time and was very impressed by her – and my admiration grew as she appeared in all of the athletic functions with her trade-mark hat! Her appearances at these events showed her support which the upper campus had not shown for many a year.

    The concept of a sound body in a sound mind seems to have been forgotten by many in the ivory towers in the rarified air not realizing it is the athletics (and hopefully its success) that draws the vast majority of the community together.

    So the support shown by Virginia Hinshaw was much appreciated by me and hopefully by all here.

  104. Kevin September 22, 2011 10:32 am

    Tom Mui,

    Still feels ICKY as to why she’s gone after June…

  105. Kevin September 22, 2011 10:37 am

    My personal feeling, at least the FIRST thing that popped into my head upon reading about her not being renewed is that the average person would see her and automatically think of UH athletics because of her visibility at games and how vocal she has been in support of UH athletics as opposed to her being associated with UH’s academic side.

    This appears to be the general observation.

    Of course I could see how those in the Manoa academia world would be unhappy with her visibility at UH athletic events and her opining on various UH sports related issues.

  106. Pomai September 22, 2011 10:38 am

    I think there should be some vetting about her leaving.

  107. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 10:38 am

    If Hinshaw was on a 5-year contract, since she started on July 1, 2007 doesn’t her contract expire at the end of June 2012? If so, hopefully, things will change before then.

  108. LizKauai September 22, 2011 10:39 am

    MIGHTY MO: Episode 3 – Rolo & Mo Talk Story

  109. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 10:47 am

    She lasted longer than Englert and Konan…well Konan was an interim so I guess that doesn’t count.

    Don’t have anything to back this up but I think the Chancellor position at UH-Manoa has a high turnover rate in general.

  110. Kevin September 22, 2011 10:51 am

    Konan should have counted for anything anyway.

  111. Garret September 22, 2011 10:51 am

    Interesting explanation why Oklahoma insisted that Beebe be fired. The funny thing is that Texas wanted a different commissioner for the Big 12 but Oklahoma insisted on Beebe.

    But some have said Beebe made some critical missteps in trying to hold the Big 12 together this time around, including holding a conference call with the league’s presidents on Sept. 2 without Texas and Oklahoma, sources told

    During that conference call, Beebe told the presidents to “work on Texas,” because Beebe believed the Pac-12 wouldn’t invite Oklahoma without Texas, sources said.

    In the end, Beebe was right. But Oklahoma sources resented Beebe for that, and OU sources told The Oklahoman the Sooners wanted Beebe removed as commissioner going forward.

  112. Kevin September 22, 2011 10:51 am

    DAMN!! I meant to say: Konan SHOULDN’T have counted for anything anyway.

  113. Stephen Tsai September 22, 2011 11:08 am

    Hinshaw is a decent woman, somewhat brilliant researcher, with a strong appreciation for intercollegiate athletics.

    But the higher-ups wanted a change, and now they’re getting the change.

    In a few years, we can analyze the move.

  114. Stephen Tsai September 22, 2011 11:11 am


    The chancellor’s position is intriguing. Sometimes the president serves as the Manoa chancellor, sometimes it’s a separate position.

  115. Slugger September 22, 2011 11:15 am

    Chatted with Dunnachie’s Mum & Uncle today at practice.


  116. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc September 22, 2011 11:15 am

    If you are interested in taking part in the chancellor selection process, there MAY be at least one position on the committee open to the general public. Other positions MAY be open to members of the Alumni Association and Ahahui Koa Anuenue.

    Once the search committee has been established, it will select the core criteria – academic background, research background, employment background, etc.

    If you want to express your concerns about the qualifications prior to issuing the call for applications, then I strongly urge that you write the Board of Regents. Click for contact information.

    With respect to contacting legislators, probably the key person is State Senator David Ige who not only represents Aiea but also is chair of the WAYS & MEANS COMMITTEE. He is definitely the go-to-first money guy.

    State Senator Jill Tokuda chairs the Senate Education Committee – both higher & lower. All requests start there and then move to WAM. She represents half of Kailua and almost all of Kane`ohe so if there’s any interest in a meet-up, let me know and I’ll arrange for it.

    Roy Takumi chairs the House Education Committee (lower only) and represents the next district over. A good guy and easy to talk to/with.

    Ditto for Marcus Oshiro who represents the Wahiawa area and chairs the Finance Committee.

    Blake Oshiro is the House Majority Leader and has a lot of control over what gets heard and processed and what does not.

    As I stated in a post earlier this week, the semi-autonomous status of the University of Hawai`i System means that the administration deals directly with the Legislature rather than going through the Governor’s Office first. However, the Governor does have the final call once the new fiscal year starts by having the authority to withhold funding.

    I HAVE to get back to work. See you on Saturday. If you have questions about the legislative process, please feel free to ask.

  117. LizKauai September 22, 2011 11:21 am

    Oi Oi Oi, Slugger!

  118. d1shima September 22, 2011 11:42 am

    Geez…sounds like the proverbial walking MASH unit.

  119. Slugger September 22, 2011 11:43 am

    Prayers for Lynn Shoji and Momo. Get well soon!

  120. Pomai September 22, 2011 11:44 am

    IMHO the one who should be leaving is Greenwood.

  121. Slugger September 22, 2011 11:45 am

    Aussie! Aussie! Aussie! LizK

    Alex’s Mum thinks that the ESPN segment on Scott & Blake will be shown in about 4 weeks. Maybe our blogmeister can find out.

  122. d1shima September 22, 2011 11:46 am

    No changes at RB?

  123. d1shima September 22, 2011 11:48 am


    The last time you had a “H opinion”, the Whigs were still in power! 😆

  124. A-House September 22, 2011 11:55 am

    tom mui #103:

    echoing your support for Chancellor Hinshaw and her continued support of UH athletics even tho she told us theat “it was a hard game to watch”.

    Mrs A-House and I sat and chatted with her in the HAL boarding area on Sunday for our flight home – she continues to support UH athletics and will do so until she relinquishes her position of Chancellor-UH manoa.

    At least, in our life time, we were blessed with sharing our passion for UH sports with a Chancellor who truly cared what happened to each and every student athlete. Perhpas, this caused a rift with her upper campus “hai kara” administrators.

    Must agree with tom mui that it is “sports”, at least in Hawaii, that brings the entire State into oneness – hope this will translate into donations, any kind, to support all the student athletes. Maybe we should concentrate our donations into other than $$$ – ideas, building materials, time, labor, etc. there are so many ways to eat a french fry!!!

  125. A-House September 22, 2011 12:03 pm

    Reminder for anyone who is willing to donate their “free” wahine basketball ticket that is attached to the football season tickets – ask your relatives/friends/co-worker for the ticket if they are not planning to use them and bring to the tailgate on Saturday or send them directly to Coach Dana at lower campus.

    a special “mahalo” to Uku in LA for bringing his tickets to Vegas – added them to what I have collected so far and will donate to the wahine basketball program!!

    Appears that this program is headed into the right direction with several former “all-stars” transferring to UH to finish their careers.

    Hope this will also apply to the wahine soccer program!!

  126. jm2375 September 22, 2011 12:07 pm

    re: rift between the academic depts and the athletic department – IMHO there are 2 big reasons for the rift

    1) the faculty aren’t sports fans and couldn’t care less about the athletic dept

    2) they are protecting their “turf” and see the athletic dept as taking money away from their departments

    In their “ivory tower” mentality, they fail to see the big picture – success in athletics = more money for the whole campus/system. This is by no means unique to UH.

  127. SteveM September 22, 2011 12:13 pm

    Good morning/afternoon everyone!

    Best wishes for Cenn’s Kayla!

    Got tom-warriornation’s Nevada ticket info posted in the Tsai-ko “Away Game” page for quick reference.

    Added Liz’s Kalapaki Joe’s (Poipu) PPV gathering added to the Events section (click my name above).

    Any other gatherings on the neighbor islands to list?

  128. rainbowfan September 22, 2011 12:14 pm

    No need for a separate chancellor’s position for Manoa or for that matter the separate Manoa campus staff. You have enough personnel in the UH system staff already. The Chancellor’s position was created in 2001 by Evan Dobelle . Reduce tuition costs for UH students.

  129. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 12:18 pm

    I think at this stage of the season, Hawaii has to play it’s best players for the day… including potential red-shirts. Maybe save their red shirt year for after a season of experience.

  130. rich2176 September 22, 2011 12:29 pm

    Just got the DirecTV ESPN GamePlan line-up – UC Davis vs Hawaii Ch. 788. It says 11:59 pm EST as the start time. Great, now I don’t have to sit in front of the computer to watch on ESPN3.

  131. LizKauai September 22, 2011 12:37 pm

    Thanks, SteveM.

    Get well soon Momo – gotta SEE the game!

    Healing to all…

    A-House and tommui- imho -UNITY is a fundamental quality needed for success. The ivory tower is on the endangered list unless it begins to act for the betterment of all of UH without the artificial barriers of us and them. Losing the Lower Campus will only accelerate the perception that a college education is not worth sacrificing the family farm for because there are no guarantees of jobs after graduation.


  132. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 12:45 pm

    Closed-minded people will always have difficulties accepting open-minded individuals.

    Do we have more injured players going into the fourth game of the season than we did in 2009?

  133. Slugger September 22, 2011 12:47 pm


    True dat! The academic side vs athletics = turf battles for budget no matter what school.

    MRC Greenwood was hired after Chancellor Hinshaw. At this point in time, President Greenwood may want to hire someone who may be more in line with what she wants to put in place at UH. At least Hinshaw will still be with the university. She is a great supporter of the university.

  134. jm2375 September 22, 2011 12:55 pm

    Re: combining the Manoa chancellor position with the system president. Don’t think the other campuses would appreciate it. System president is supposed to advocate and administer the ENTIRE system, while the chancellor advocates and administers the individual campus. Hard to do both without some conflict-of-interests. Manoa as the flagship campus gets most of the money and resources anyway. I am NOT in favor of it. The separation of positions is probably the only good thing Dobelle did during his tenure.

  135. Dan-O September 22, 2011 1:10 pm

    FYI….Mana Silva re-signed to Ravens practice squad.

  136. COCOBEAN September 22, 2011 1:30 pm

    Very neutral on Greenwood. She’s not very visible on athletic and academic matters.

    The big But is, she recognized the importance of getting into the MWC. Don’t know if she picked Rockne herself or if one of her advisors did. She seemed genuinely elated at the presser to annouce we got in.

    You don’t get to be prexy at UH unless you’re a pretty shrewd political operator.

  137. A-House September 22, 2011 1:33 pm

    Do we realy know where MRC Greenwood stands when it comes to athletics?

    I ask because she became the spokes person for UH announcing the alingment with the MWC and apparently had a hand in making this happen – unsure to what degree.

    Will it be in my life time that UH football becomes “big time”? What da heck is “big time”? Your opinion is as good as anyone elses.

  138. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 1:36 pm


    UH will have to become “big time” before it’s football program can. Look at Women’s Volleyball.. no matter how big our crowds.. how well we do.. we are still, just a team out in Hawaii. Softball they considered a fluke.. Baseball, do they even remember?

  139. Sid Trio September 22, 2011 1:38 pm

    I read your site frequently and I just thought I’d say keep up the good work!

  140. Kevin September 22, 2011 1:46 pm

    What is “big time”?

    Well, for UH “big time” to me is at least getting people out of the parking lot and into the stadium BEFORE the 2nd quarter.

  141. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 1:46 pm

    But that means that the legislatures/law makers would have to dish out a billion dollars over the next 10-15 years to fix upper campus which we know is NOT going to happen anytime soon. So, in the meantime, they appease the more vocal minions by according some less expensive, quick fixes to the athletic department. Fixes, which while not serving the palettes of the more academia-centered folks, pleases us fans and creates an unwelcome distraction to the greater needs of upper campus. IMHO

  142. al September 22, 2011 2:03 pm

    heal fast haku.

    saw him an hour ago, must have been post surgery as he was in crutches.

  143. al September 22, 2011 2:03 pm

    also, ran into tavita woodard last night at a volunteer program. very well mannered young man who hopes to return to the field soon.

  144. al September 22, 2011 2:04 pm

    …and just bumped into the entrepreneur duo of bg and kekoa.

    eating of course.

  145. eagle September 22, 2011 2:11 pm

    madeinhawaii: September 22nd, 2011 at 8:34 am

    Off topic…

    “CERN claims faster-than-light particle measured”

    Hate when things like this happen and you gotta unlearn a fundamental belief and restructure your personal universe. It will take more than a generation before everyone aknowledges something faster than the speed of light.

    So do neutrinos move backward in time?

    SO NOW “we’ve Seen it …” Thanks for the Update…


    Don’t Know if “Everyone” will ever acknowledge what IS Right in Front of Us… GREW UP Understanding that some “LAWS” of Physics would ‘have to be proven’ wrong or out-of-date …

    Particles faster than Speed of Light, WARPS, Wormholes; NO-Time Travel ALL Help to Explain:

    1) Time Travel Forward & Back (esp. without “Machines”) which US Gov’t has been using to get a leg up for at least 30 years;

    2) “PRE-Cognition”AND Psychic Abilities — How ALL of US Know Things before they happen — ‘my problem’ was the Loss of “Accuracy” (esp. in predictions) BUT String Theory and parallel realities help [ A LOT] to explain Why we “see” different things … Ask yourself if not a believer, “WHY has String Theory persisted IF Almost No Evidence is Presented ?” SEE # 1 Above: When Time Travelers go BOTH Forward and Back they often see different FACTS (realities, Specific EX: Different things ‘happen’ @ President Lincoln’s Assassination), similar to “Where IS That Particle ? It’s AT ALL Possible Places at the same time …

  146. san jose warrior September 22, 2011 2:14 pm

    Anybody wonder why so many foot injuries? Is it the shoes?

  147. eagle September 22, 2011 2:22 pm

    i think recent visitors Baylor, Butler and Gonzaga (our Nov. 19 “Neutral Court basketball opponent) are ALL BB Big Time …

    Boise, Utah, TCU, BYU and Hawai’i either have or are on the verge of crashing or touching FB ‘Big Time’ AND have been periodically (more than annually) recognized as such …

    Softball, Baseball (U.H., Big West & WAC) regularly crash the Big Time

    Volleyball, No Doubt …

    BUT DO Consider it will PROBABLY Take (or at least be a Big Help) when a Major AND Regular Contributor or several can step up more than periodically…

    Please Keep Encouraging or Take Your M/Billionaire friend(s) to U.H. Events …

  148. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 2:24 pm

    In some respects the Manoa Chancellor can be more powerful than the UH system President.

    Many of the tough decisions that affect Manoa directly must pass the Chancellor and is under her/his purview entirely.

    I too do not mind having 2 separate positions between system President and head of Manoa.

  149. Da Punchbowl Kid September 22, 2011 2:25 pm

    Too bad about Correa. Would he be eligible for a medical hardship and an extra year?

  150. niho mano September 22, 2011 2:27 pm



    UC Davis 35

  151. rich2176 September 22, 2011 2:28 pm

    Note on foot injuries…I noticed during the UNLV game that 99% of the UH players had rolls & rolls of tape OUTSIDE of their shoes. This reduces mobility of the ankle and forces everyone to run around club-footed. UNLV players had NO visible tape on the outside of their shoes. Perhaps the UH trainers should reconsider their methods? Just a thought.

  152. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 2:29 pm

    TCU may in fact be the Big 12 addition…*Not* BYU

  153. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 2:36 pm


    If neutrinos are moving backwards in time, does that mean we are already dead and only think we are alive in past tense?

  154. Kevin September 22, 2011 2:39 pm


    That taping method is kind of old. Our players did the same even with the Nike cleats. Even Colt did the same as did Davone Bess I believe.

    See it on some pro players and here and there on some other college sports teams as well.

  155. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 2:41 pm

    So if Air Force wants to take their football program to a makeup of; South Florida, Cincinnati, Rutgers, Louisville while West Virginia and UConn are looking for an out then Air Force can go knock themselves out.

    If anything a MWC offer to Navy as a Football only member looks 100000X better than the Big East at this point.

    Sure you get 3 years or whatever of AQ status but if Navy is looking at its interest beyond 7+ years…there may not be a Big East conference by then.

  156. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 2:41 pm

    We’ve had problem with shoes from some time. You’d think that would be solved by now. But with the new turf on Ching and Aloha?

  157. Kevin September 22, 2011 2:42 pm

    Both Pilares and Salas had their cleats taped in the same fashion as well I think.

    Come to think of it, most of our skill positions today and pre-Under Armour days did the same thing.

    So the method hasn’t changed and in the past has not hindered mobility as evident by the players I named.

  158. Kevin September 22, 2011 2:46 pm

    Under Armour spent time and money sending two individuals to Hawaii late in the 2008 season to have each player fitted specifically.

    Following that UA improved their cleats and shoes overall.

    As pointed out by another blogger before, other schools that have the same cleats aren’t reporting these issues.

    Now when you have brand-new cleats.. then.. Remember the 2011 BCS National Championship Game? Both Nike and UA were looking to out-gun each other and Nike game Oregon new cleats and UA gave Auburn new ones as well. Those guys on both teams were reportedly falling all over the place.

  159. rainbowfan September 22, 2011 2:52 pm

    For those that like a separate Chancellor’s office, please answer why, for example, UH needs a Finance Office for the System under the President and also for Manoa, likewise why a Human Resources Office for the System and also for Manoa ? Same for Information Technology offices, etc.

    Reduce university bureaucracy and tuition costs for students – this is a known issue for students across the mainland also- too many yearly tuition increases at every university.

  160. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 2:55 pm

    The same reason why a couple hundred years ago they decided that having one person be the judge, jury, and executioner wasn’t such a good idea.

  161. Kevin September 22, 2011 2:56 pm

    If Manoa has a finance office and the entire system has an office… do the other campuses (CCs, UH Hilo, West Oahu, etc…) have their own finance offices?

  162. Kevin September 22, 2011 2:58 pm


    September 22nd, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    The same reason why a couple hundred years ago they decided that having one person be the judge, jury, and executioner wasn’t such a good idea.

    Ummm.. we need to go back and take a close look at that again.

    I’m just saying, don’t rule it out. 😈

  163. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 3:01 pm


    Lol…I can imagine.

  164. eagle September 22, 2011 3:02 pm

    RE: 153 madeinhawaii:

    September 22nd, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    Eagle… If neutrinos are moving backwards in time, does that mean we are already dead and only think we are alive in past tense?

    RE: Neutrinos — Good NOVA feature in the past couple of days — wanted to get on the DUMAND Project (catching neutrinos at great undersea depth versus great underground depths)

    madeinhawaii: i subscribe to the thinking that we’re more likely experiencing multiple simultaneous lifetimes and that forward and backward are more like directions, than timelines, in a tapestry … if you ever get the chance to experience Past AND Future Life Progressions, that’s a real kick in the pants (fun, enlightening and no known or acknowledged harmful side effects although i’m sure people wonder about ‘us’) AND you get to know your family and friends a bit better as well — just like in this lifetime we often travel or play together on many different stages …

    and see ‘death’ as at-most, a transition, travel between places/realities: plus i don’t think any one gets rid of us that easily

    [ like this island … it’s both Way Bigger than we think and also so tied together like ‘a small place’ … so be good, be nice …make a positive difference big and small…]

  165. Pride. September 22, 2011 3:04 pm


    September 22nd, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    madeinhawaii: September 22nd, 2011 at 8:34 am

    Off topic…

    Hate when things like this happen and you gotta unlearn a fundamental belief and restructure your personal universe. It will take more than a generation before everyone aknowledges something faster than the speed of light.

    I know what you’re saying. It took me years to adjust from the world being flat to the world being round.

  166. wafan September 22, 2011 3:13 pm

    Wait . . . it is not flat?!?!

    Next thing someone will tell me we landed on the moon.

  167. wafan September 22, 2011 3:14 pm

    This has to be the longest four day week I have just about ever experienced.


    Sadly, the weekend will go by in a flash.


  168. wafan September 22, 2011 3:15 pm

    Nytal . . .

  169. Kevin September 22, 2011 3:16 pm

    What the hell is the moon?

  170. Kevin September 22, 2011 3:17 pm


    September 22nd, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    Wait . . . it is not flat?!?!

    there is still no definitive proof.

    just “photos”.

  171. duffer September 22, 2011 3:17 pm

    Gee just saw a email from Glenn Okimoto, DOT Director, agreeing for DOT staff to show their support to the Warriors by having staff wear their UH attire every Friday until the end of the season.

  172. izzy September 22, 2011 3:17 pm

    RE: Moon

    I think it has something to do with one’s pants.

  173. postmanke September 22, 2011 3:18 pm

    138 – Can! I think any program can become “big time”. to me, it’s is simple.. you gotta get ranked. If you’re not ranked, you’re not “big time” not only get ranked but stay ranked year after year. If a team can have year after year success and replenish what you loss and still maintain ranking, you’re on your way to “big time” That means you have built a program.. if not, i would say you’re just “fielding a team” with the hopes of everyone buying into your philosophy that will enable you to build a program. wanna get big time? find a way to get ranked.. and stay there.. that’s where everyone starts believing..

    It aint gonna happen over night. JJ cranked and started the ranking engine again. Mac is keeping the engine running and is revving the engine (he is, trust me) We finally changed that crap Frazier oil and added high performance JD oil with octane. We might not be ranked, but we got the parts that can make this engine roll. JD will lube the parts that needs it. we’ll get ranked again, we’re not that far off..

  174. Kevin September 22, 2011 3:19 pm


    Your cell # changed?

  175. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 3:19 pm


    You gotta stop reading that Celestine Prophecy/Vision/Tenth Insight stuff…

  176. Kevin September 22, 2011 3:20 pm

    End of the complete season isn’t until early June.

  177. LizKauai September 22, 2011 3:24 pm

    duffer – Cool!

  178. rainbowfan September 22, 2011 3:26 pm

    Should the UH Defensive Coordinator be on the field rather than in the booth ? I know he prefers to be in the booth to see the field better to call the plays. But who “coordinates” the defense on the field ? In other words who motivates,corrects, talks to the players on the field during the game ? Tuioti, Miyano, Lee,Mac ? or they just do it by the position and those coaches ?

    Rolo is on the field, so i assume he can talk to all the offensive players if and when he needs to.

  179. Ballpicker September 22, 2011 3:40 pm


    Let me see if I can slide in with this choice:

    Hawaii. 49

    UcD. 19

    Take care everyone. Off to see Bulla at church.

    Go Warriors.

  180. Ipu Man September 22, 2011 3:48 pm

    So much drama as we wait for Saturday’s game.

    It is like a movie.

    So who would play Coach Mac?

    John Wayne…(True Grit)

    Coach Rolo? Maybe a young Gabby Hayes…(dagnabit Roy Rogers!)

    Coach Miyano? Clint Eastwood…(Dirty Harry)

    Virginia Henshaw? Faye Dunaway…(Bonnie & Clyde)

  181. duffer September 22, 2011 3:51 pm

    Kevin, nope still the same!

  182. Ipu Man September 22, 2011 3:56 pm


  183. RedZone September 22, 2011 3:58 pm

    Get well wounded Warriors.

    I hope to see you on the field soon.

    Plant da Aggies.

  184. Hawaiianbod September 22, 2011 3:59 pm

    re 178/181: Which coach is Coach Miyano? Is he a new coach from Japan? 🙂

  185. Ralph September 22, 2011 4:07 pm

    Greenwood is system President, with Manoa being the flagship campus. She has a finance and HR depart. to oversee Manoa, Hilo, and all of the community colleges. She has to watch the bottom line, and we all know payroll and benefits takes up a big share of any budget, a reason she has to keep an eye on HR and personnel matters. Whereas Hinshaw has to be solely responsible for Manoa, and therefore she has a finance depart. and an HR depart for Manoa. I don’t see an duplication of services, each fulfilling a different need based on scope of responsibility.

    We should raise student fees and tuition to help run the university. Tuition pays only a fraction of the cost of running UH, a large portion of the revenue comes from the taxpayer through state funding for capital improvements, etc, UH foundation, other foundations, Alumni, etc.

    rainbow fan, please don’t complain about your tuition cost, it is what it is, we are paying a portion of your cost for your education through our tax dollars and donation to the UH Foundation, and many of us are not in school, or with kids currently enrolled in school.

  186. LizKauai September 22, 2011 4:16 pm

    Ipu Man – Coach Mack: Rod Steiger :mrgreen:

  187. RedZone September 22, 2011 4:29 pm

    Cincinatti has a really good offense.

  188. Stephen Tsai September 22, 2011 4:33 pm

    Everybody know the story about Odysseus?

    The story is being played out in front of us.

  189. izzy September 22, 2011 4:37 pm

    RE: Odysseus

    Does that make Tsaikos the chorus?

  190. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 4:39 pm

    Davonne Bess?

  191. LizKauai September 22, 2011 4:45 pm

    I like the chorus part… GO WARRIORS!

    What’s the drama, ST?

  192. Kekoa September 22, 2011 4:46 pm

    September 22nd, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    …and just bumped into the entrepreneur duo of bg and kekoa.

    eating of course.

    Al ~ We were having a ‘working’ lunch. Working out the details over Oxtail Soup is serious bidness braddah!

    Meanwhile, I couldn’t help noticing that your lunch companion included the dynamic Nalani Choy.

  193. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 4:47 pm

    Those green stickers you see college football coaches wearing on their sleeves…

    I hope Mack & Co. will sport the patches this week for this cause.

  194. d1shima September 22, 2011 4:49 pm


  195. Ralph September 22, 2011 4:53 pm

    Na Wahine up 2-0 over Vandals, 21, 19.

  196. Ralph September 22, 2011 4:54 pm

    Na Wahine hitting .390, Croson with 12 kills, Danielson 11, Hartong and Hewitt with 5, and Satele with 4.

  197. rainbowfan September 22, 2011 4:55 pm


    I already went to UH in the late 60’s and early 70’s. At that time, we didn’t have a separate chancellor. We did fine under that system until 2001. Why not reduce your and my taxpayers’ expense of funding the UH bureaucracy ? Money doesn’t grow on trees, as you know. Also, read about the student loan debt incurred by students here and on the mainland which is forever hanging over their heads.

  198. RedZone September 22, 2011 4:56 pm

    do you have the XFactor? are you a stud?

  199. LizKauai September 22, 2011 4:57 pm

    GO WAHINE!!!

  200. d1shima September 22, 2011 5:00 pm

    Uno, dos, adios!

  201. Ballpicker September 22, 2011 5:18 pm

    I spoke with Bulla at Kevin B funeral for a moment, introduced myself and I must say he is a man’s man.

    God bless my friend.

  202. Haleakala September 22, 2011 5:20 pm

    Pomai: Hawaii 45 UC Davis 14

    Hawaii will get start getting the kinks out from now.

  203. Ballpicker September 22, 2011 5:26 pm

    I think I saw odysseus in Vegas once. Lol

  204. WarriorMojo September 22, 2011 5:46 pm

    ST, which story of Odysseus? The Trojan horse? The long journey home after the Trojan war? Scylla and Charybdis? The cyclops?

  205. d1shima September 22, 2011 5:51 pm

    I’m bettin’ on the horse…

  206. Ralph September 22, 2011 5:55 pm

    Na Wahine wins in 4.

  207. tom mui September 22, 2011 5:58 pm

    The cyclops – the Warriors will keep their eye on the ball!

    The Long Journey into Night – the Warriors coming back from Vas Vegas.

    Scylla and Charybdis – we will win or else we will be between a rock and a hard place.



  208. izzy September 22, 2011 5:58 pm


    That would be “Tsai-klops”

  209. Ipu Man September 22, 2011 6:38 pm

    Re: The movie…Coach Miano (Italian Japanese actor needed?)

    As for Rod Steiger, which role did he play best?

  210. A-House September 22, 2011 6:38 pm

    for a while, I thought I was having a “Matrix” flashback!!

    me no sabe Greek mythology – who is dis guy Odysseus? I thought U.S. Grant was a US Army General.

    me no sabe me no tell, me press button go like hell!

  211. Ipu Man September 22, 2011 6:43 pm

    Odysseus is one of the first Greek mythic heroes renowned for his brain as well as his muscle. Indeed he is a man with an inquiring mind, and he is also a man with outstanding prowess and bravery. We also must not forget that he is a top-notch athlete which only adds more to this seemingly insuperable character. It is no wonder why many scholars refer to Odysseus as a powerful mythic hero.

    Odysseus often hesitates before acting, because he uses his reason and gift to evaluate things. This patience is one of his most important additional attributes. This has saved him and his men many of times, and it can be easily seen in various instances throughout his travels such as when he disguised himself as a beggar when he finally reached Ithaca, waiting for the right moment to reveal himself.

    As great as he was, Odysseus still had some weaknesses that prolonged his voyage back to Ithaca. His most important weakness that he possess is that of his pride. Pride is good to have, but in Odysseus’ case he had to much of it. This is clearly evident in the episode on the cyclopes’ island. When Odysseus and his men are clearly safe away from the island Odysseus braggs about his exploit. Polythemus hears this and hurls giant boulders in the direction of the ship. A couple came very close to sinking the ship. Still that was not enough for Odysseus. Carried away in his pride he unwisely gave away his identity to Polythemus. With that Polythemus called upon his father, Poseidon, to punish the man who had harmed him. That incident hurt Odysseus more than losing a few men, because Poseidon made his travel home ever so longer and arduous.

    Yet another weakness of our hero is his sensualness. Odysseus enjoys women.

  212. A-House September 22, 2011 6:43 pm

    Com’on Coach Rollo:

    get dat grey matta rolling with sum nu plays to confuse da opponents defense – let go of the horse blinders – no be tunnel visioned.

    and for heavans sake, go more vertical than horizontal with passes – bring the receivers closer to the QB or get a QB who can “zing da ball”.

    if a play is in your book, it is not a trick play – only sports analysts call them tric plays.

  213. cocobean September 22, 2011 6:58 pm


    You remember the beginnings. The early days. We had a new state of the art stadium. A young energetic up and coming coach. A well connected AD straight from the Pac10. There was total support – 45,000 fannies in the seats, the backing of the executive branch and legislature, all the Bishopt Street bigwigs. Seems everyone was on the bandwagon.

    It was a giddy time. Sky was the limit. Back then fans could dream about improving each year and eventually competing with the Nebrakas, USCs and Oklahomas of the world. Home games was the place to see and be seen.

    Seems back then we were closer to the “big time” than we are now. What happened? Was it just a pipe dream? Did reality set in?

  214. el burro sabio September 22, 2011 7:00 pm

    Mr. A-House,

    No need this week, need next week.

  215. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc September 22, 2011 7:04 pm

    RAINBOW FAN: Are you driving a 40-year-old car? Watching UH away games on a 40-year-old tv set? Writing your posts on a 40-year-old computer? Washing your clothes in a 40-year-old machine?

    Higher Education business models have also changed significantly over the past 40 years – including the addition of FIVE new campuses to the University of Hawai`i System. Today there are nearly 90,000 people DIRECTLY connected to the University of Hawai`i System – students, faculty, researchers, staff. Add to that another 200,000+ former faculty, staff & students who are still amongst the sentient – and you have the potential for a lot of people who have a connection to UH.

    Forty years ago, the John A. Burns School of Medicine was only a two-year school and did not become a four year school until 1973. Forty years ago, what is now know as the William Richardson School of Law was still on paper – the first law school class did not enter until the Fall of 1973.

    Al summed it up – ten campuses – and soon to be eleven – on four islands require separate internal administrations woven together by the Board of Regents.

    However, if you really feel that strongly about doing away with the Manoa campus administration, then I suggest that you follow two tracks simultaneously. First, address a written complaint to the BOR – the contact information is

    The second way of getting your concerns addressed would be to send a written (real) letter to State Senator Jill Tokuda and State Representative Scott Nishimoto who oversee higher education issues at the Legislature. Send a CC to your own senator and representative and request an appointment to follow up on your concerns.

    If you are a member of the University of Hawai`i Alumni Association, raise the issue with their board of directors.

    Meanwhile, why not write an op-ed piece in the Star-Advertiser or the Honolulu Weekly requesting that action be taken on the matter.

  216. A-House September 22, 2011 7:04 pm

    Ipu man:

    sounds like you read the book On War written by Carl von Clausewitz, who as a young Prussian officer in the early 1800’s, put his thoughts/theories on paper which displayed the comprehensivesness, systematic approach and precise style on how to fight and win battles/war in Europe.

    His principles apply to current battlefield(s) as it did in Viet Nam – war; the nature of war; theory of war; strategy in general; the engagement; military forces; defense; attack; and war plans.

    hey, maybe it should be a requried reading for all UH coaches; especially football!

    what do I know, I’m just an old fart!

  217. A-House September 22, 2011 7:13 pm


    so right on and I did not have to pay $200/seat premium charge!

    Then, UH moved into a full-on college schedule and then the WAC. Staticness was stripped away with new administrators and coaches and bigger plans with better teams/players.

    And so the drama continues into the MWC in 2012 where the 8 defectors again put the screws to UH by demanding travel allowance – is this the price we have to pay to live in paradise? big bachi when UH becomes the premier school in the conference.

  218. Ipu Man September 22, 2011 7:15 pm

    A-House, no never read that book. But heard of Clausewitz.

    Just thought Stephen Tsai’s observation of the classic character

    fit Coach Mac and a lot of us. :>)

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  220. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 7:25 pm

    Odysseus, son of a king..

    Hmm… dunno about son of a king.. but I’m sure we got a lot of the other kind… 😉

  221. LizKauai (macbook) September 22, 2011 7:27 pm

    Rod Steiger… as Coach Mack:

  222. rainbowfan September 22, 2011 7:36 pm


    Thanks for your input. I drive a 13 yr old car, have a somewhat old 13″ tv set,a 4 yr. old laptop & a 14 yr. old washing machine. I may be rip van winkle.

    Maybe the models for Higher Education should be revised/changed – in these tough economic times – why should tuition be raised so much and taxpayers’ money is very hard to come by these days for the State Budget and all its competing requirements. Look at the UH football fan base that regularly attends games – it has shrunk. Ms Hinshaw was a good advocate for sports, but save her $337,000 salary and also review the excess Manoa and/ or System staffs . President Greenwood’s salary of $ 475,000 plus expense account of $150,000 should be enough for Manoa.

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  224. Ipu Man September 22, 2011 7:42 pm

    LizKauai…Carroll O’Connor also comes to mind:'Connor

  225. Ipu Man September 22, 2011 7:44 pm

    Rainbowfan, as Archi Bunker and Edith would sing, “Those Were The Dayz!”

  226. rainbowfan September 22, 2011 7:47 pm


    yay, ha, ha, i think that’s it.

  227. clyde September 22, 2011 8:18 pm

    Always thought George “Spanky” McFarland (of Our Gang fame) and coach McMackin were dead ringers. Those of you old enough will see the resemblance; even more so in McFarland’s later years.

  228. rainbowfan September 22, 2011 8:29 pm

    Bring back the good old days – with Spanky and Larry Price defensive genius but not the Hula T. Roosevelt boom boom Ticky Vasconcellos and Hank at UH, three yards and a cloud of manapua …

  229. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 9:03 pm

    I think the University of Hawaii has expanded far beyond the limits of what it encompassed 40 years ago. We have a Law School, A Medical School, our football program wasn’t even D1 back then… Students didn’t have true representation, there was no legal service for students who wanted to appeal grades and such. Student Center was being built. The guy running for UH Pres. had a criminal record and coined the phrase “testicular fortification”… Abercrombie was a student, too. We marched on the capitol.. I lost my cool and yelled at the politicians… (now I do it at them standing in front of the TV instead of publicly.) We had a longshoreman strike.. everyone was running out of toilet paper.. but UH had lots.. I know.. saved my butt…. computers were run on punch cards… the digital age was what showed up on the green or red strip on your hand held calculator. Single sided, 8” floppy drives were the new-fangled stuff that drove these new blue computers.

    Internet? what was that?

    Things moved slower. People didn’t sue each other over anything and everything.

    Policital Science was a questionable degree – I guess some things never change.

    We can’t go back, human nature won’t allow it. We’d be buried in digital dust and the school would go bust.

  230. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2011 9:33 pm

    Geez..all this nostalgia…interesting blog night.

    I guess I’ll get in it too then…LOL


    Dole Cannery Water Tower

    Aku Head Pupule on KGMB in the morn’in

    Lau Yee Chai on Kuhio.

    Lucky Luck’s “Lucky you come Hawaii!”

    Don Chamberlin from Fran’s Drive Inn

    Waialae-Kahala mostly pig farms

    Kapiolani Drive-in, Fran’s Drive-in, KC Drive-in, Kelly’s Drive-in


    Promoter Sad Sam Ichinose events at the “Civic Auditorium”

    Kau Kau Korner -> Coco’s -> Hard Rock Cafe ->???

    Damon Tract was the area next to the airport.

    25 cent Matinee at Queens Theater. Golden Wall Theatre

    Kalakaua was a 2-way street

    Canlis Restaurant after prom.

    Town & Country Riding Stables

    When everything that said “Made In Japan” was laughed at or was junk.

  231. Da Punchbowl Kid September 22, 2011 9:44 pm

    Gotta love this place.

  232. Da Punchbowl Kid September 22, 2011 9:45 pm

    Hey Ballpicker!

    Tom Mui has the best Odysseus theory imho.

  233. cocobean September 22, 2011 9:52 pm


    Back in the day our church group had a shave ice machine that produced super fine powder like at the best places today. It was stamped MADE IN OCCUPIED JAPAN.

  234. izzy September 22, 2011 9:54 pm

    Go to:

    You’ll find that the cost of an education generally, rises with its quality and the size of the institution. UH in-state tuition is still quite reasonable at $5,390 and actually has one of the lowest out-of-state tuitions ($14,654) for an institution of its size (20k students) and status (I assume UH is still designated a “Major Research” University because of Hamilton Library and the East-West Center).

    Yet there are other factors. For instance; while Saddleback College (yes, that one) has an in-state tuition of only $592 (remember it is part of the CA CC system), out-of-state tuition is $4,184. Then there’s the University of Washington that was mandated by the State Legislature under pressure from taxpayers to run itself under a more “business-like” model. In-state tuition is only $6,385 and out-of-state tuition is a whopping $22,131 (this is for a State University of 40k students). Now, in order to keep in-state tuition down and still keep funding for the University as a whole where it needs to be, the University now favors out-of-staters passing on otherwise qualified in-staters. Now the people of Washington are questioning the university’s acceptance practices and policies for incoming freshmen.

    Just saying . . . Be careful what you ask for because you’ll always get it.

  235. izzy September 22, 2011 10:06 pm

    Texting: The *new* ‘Generation Gap’

    ME: Sweet dreams :*

    ME: thats a kiss btw

    MOM: Thanks..btw is?..

    ME By the way

    MOM: I’m glad it wasn’t buttwipe

  236. izzy September 22, 2011 10:07 pm

    Texting: The *new* ‘Generation Gap’

    MOM: Are you at home now?

    ME: Yeah. Why?

    MOM: I’m looking on google earth at your house. Wave at me through the window!

  237. izzy September 22, 2011 10:07 pm

    Texting: The *new* ‘Generation Gap’

    DAD: would someone take me to the itunes store…i don’t know where its located…is it on S. Congress?

  238. izzy September 22, 2011 10:07 pm

    Texting: The *new* ‘Generation Gap’

    ME: Ok thanks dad! <3

    DAD: What is that? a butt with a cone?.

  239. izzy September 22, 2011 10:08 pm

    Texting: The *new* ‘Generation Gap’

    MOM: Sitting on the porch. 5/4/2011 3:03 pm TWITTER

    ME: What?

    MOM: I’m tweeting.

    ME: No, actually you’re not. Just because you put twitter at the end of a text message doesn’t mean you are tweeting.

    MOM: My daughter sucks. 5/4/2011 3:06 pm TWITTER

  240. izzy September 22, 2011 10:08 pm

    Texting: The *new* ‘Generation Gap’

    ME: pics of baby evan are up on facebook!

    DAD: That’ as good as saying they’re duct taped onto the surface of jupiter!

  241. izzy September 22, 2011 10:09 pm

    Texting: The *new* ‘Generation Gap’

    MOM: Do you want waffles or muffins for breakfast? Just text “A1” for waffles of “B1” for muffins.

    ME: Why do you go through all the trouble? Why can’t I just text “waffles” or “muffins”?

    MOM: We are texting in code! ;););):)

    Me: Waffles

    MOM: A1 or B1?


    MOM: Sooo…A1?

    ME: Mom. Yes.

    MOM: I think I would rather have muffins. I’m making muffins

  242. izzy September 22, 2011 10:09 pm

    Texting: The *new* ‘Generation Gap’

    DAD: Too small. Cant read. what does it say

    ME: Flip your screen

    DAD: OK. The back of the phone says Galaxy. What does your message say?

  243. izzy September 22, 2011 10:09 pm

    ‘k. pau.

  244. jm2375 September 22, 2011 10:12 pm

    izzy – those $ figures are from 2007. Current UH tuition is more like $8400 resident and $23,200 non-resident.

  245. izzy September 22, 2011 10:14 pm

    One can extrapolate cost rising at ALL institutions proportionally.

  246. izzy September 22, 2011 10:15 pm

    UH has always bee an inexpensive University to attend from out-of-state.

  247. madeinhawaii September 22, 2011 10:16 pm

    1970 … Groovy baby.. groovy…

  248. izzy September 22, 2011 10:16 pm

    Notice while UH in- vs out- tution is 1:3, most others are 1:4.

  249. Slugger September 22, 2011 10:27 pm

    Night gang!

  250. izzy September 22, 2011 10:28 pm


    My dad left us a collection of 78’s (of maybe 60 disks) that say that!

  251. Stephen Tsai September 22, 2011 10:28 pm


    Meant to thank you for the link to “Co-Ed.”

    That was part of the discussion during the production meeting today.

  252. LizKauai (macbook) September 22, 2011 10:28 pm

    Wow izzy, you are up late!

    Nitey nite and Tsweet Warrior Dreams!

  253. izzy September 22, 2011 10:38 pm


    All Warriors are welcomed for that. Actually you should thank my dad (poshumously) for that. But that’s not a story for this blog.

    Did anyone notice that Co-ed is still the only fight song with animated lyrics?

  254. izzy September 22, 2011 10:47 pm

    g’nite all!

    (My hunt continues on tomorrow!)

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  256. Kevin September 22, 2011 11:28 pm

    No sense in moving backwards.

    Move forward to evolve.

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  258. Ralph September 23, 2011 12:32 am

    Wee and Kerr win in Solheim Cup today, 2-1, over Hjorth and Nordqvist. Three other matches on the 15, 16 and 17 holes with Europe up.

  259. Ralph September 23, 2011 12:37 am

    Matthew and Munoz defeated Lewis and Stanford 3 & 2, tied 1-1 with two pairs out on the course.

  260. Ralph September 23, 2011 1:00 am

    Lincicome and Creamer pulls it out on the 18th over Stupples and Reid. USA up 2-1, with one group out on the 17th.

  261. Ralph September 23, 2011 1:19 am

    Pettersen and Gustafson 1 up on Lang and Inkster, foursome split, 2-2. Next matches, four ball. Wee paired with Kerr again.

  262. Wes'side Warrior September 23, 2011 3:01 am

    Healing prayers to all those in need, both on the team and in our Tsaiko community… and blessings to their ‘ohana!

    Go, Warriors!

    Go, Wahine!

  263. wafan September 23, 2011 3:13 am

    Happy Aloha Friday!

  264. wafan September 23, 2011 3:14 am

    Sports “More Stories” link on today’s online SA edition goes to yesterday’s page.

  265. wafan September 23, 2011 3:15 am

    Welcome to the first day of Fall!

    Just a little over 4 hours old.


  266. wafan September 23, 2011 3:17 am

    Long term forecast is cold and wet.

    Looks like snow and ice on the way.

    I hope not.

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  268. Pomai September 23, 2011 4:49 am

    UH vs UCD

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    20    –    28    clowns nose

    24    –    21    mikey

    27    –    27    anklebiters

    28    –    07    Candy

    28    –    21    jojo

    28    –    24    LizKauai

    28    –    35    niho mano

    31    –    14    gmahoney

    31    –    28    WassupDoc

    31    –    35    Pride

    34    –    24    BigWave96744

    35    –    07    tom mui

    35    –    10    ms momo

    35    –    14    kawika49

    35    –    17    Bowwar

    35    –    28    Glenn

    38    –    14    wafan

    38    –    17    SailorBlue

    38    –    28    longdistance808

    41    –    20    eagle

    41    –    21    DPK

    42    –    10    BleedGreen808

    42    –    10    Pomai

    42    –    14    momo

    45    –    10    Jack Flash

    45    –    14    chopsueyboy

    45    –    14    Haleakala

    48    –    17    kev-1

    49    –    13    IWWTHM

    49    –    14    Tchahng

    49    –    19    Ballpicker

    50    –    00    AlaWai

    52    –    17    postmanke

    54    –    13    madeinhawaii

    55    –    14    Ipu Man

    56    –    13    Kekoa

    56    –    14    d1shima

    63    –    00    polywarrior4life

    63    –    21    Mario

    65    –    10    WarriorNY

    72    –    00    RedZone

  269. mctruck September 23, 2011 5:00 am

    According to Dallas Morning News report, TCU looks like the front runner to replace A&M as the 10th team in big12. Makes sense to me.

    Good morning gangeez.

  270. mctruck September 23, 2011 5:11 am

    pomai…goodmorning, sir.

    put me down; UH/46……UCD/12

  271. Bulla September 23, 2011 5:55 am

    #201 Ballpicker,

    The pleasure was all mine in our meeting last night 🙂 What a mixed plate of emotions last night, but the one thing, the only thing that mattered…..we honored a brother in the way that he should have been honored.

    Mahalo for the kind words, if there is anything we can take from last night’s service…. life is fragile, life is short… are we going to ‘live for the dash’?

    Warriors, don’t read the hype, just play your game, secure the victory and move forward.

  272. d1shima September 23, 2011 5:59 am

    Great Morning All!


  273. krump1_AKA_protector September 23, 2011 6:00 am


    Please put me down for: Warriors 63 UC-Davis 14

  274. LizKauai (iPad) September 23, 2011 6:00 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

    What a nice, smoke-free blog this was today!

    Happy Autumn and Happy Aloha Friday!

  275. d1shima September 23, 2011 6:01 am

    Nice to read that everyone, including #81, was appreciative of Mack’s “hands-on” approach to coaching

  276. d1shima September 23, 2011 6:13 am

    Remember your hardhat today!

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  280. Ballpicker September 23, 2011 7:44 am

    Mr. Bulla, Thank you kind sir.

    Good morning DPK. Missed Tom Mui’s theory.

    Have a great day everyone.

    Go Warriors

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