The recruiting game

In previous years, the Warriors rarely brought in prospects during the season. Most of the visits were scheduled in the three weekends leading to the February signing date.
But that’s changed under Greg McMackin, and recruits will be visiting this weekend.
The in-season visits allow the prospects to join the team in game preparation. That way if they choose to attend UH, there won’t be any surprises.
While some players have been very good hosts — take a bow, Rocky Savaiigaea, Keao Monteilh, Inoke Funaki and Adam Leonard — the new strategy allows more than 100 Warriors to serve as hosts.


  1. madeinhawaii November 21, 2008 9:22 am


  2. madeinhawaii November 21, 2008 9:23 am

    Morning ST… morning all!

  3. cheepono November 21, 2008 9:24 am

    cheepono #3 bebe

  4. madeinhawaii November 21, 2008 9:24 am

    The early recruiting seems to be paying off. Hopefully the early commits will stick to their guns and be part of the Warrior Nation next season. It’s all pretty exciting.

  5. jm2375 November 21, 2008 9:29 am

    Top 5?

    So, did Herr Benson say anything worth reporting?

  6. djmitcho November 21, 2008 9:30 am

    Top 10!!!

  7. djmitcho November 21, 2008 9:32 am

    Coach Mack gets an A+ on the early recruiting effort. If JJ were still here, I’m guessing we wouldn’t have as many verbals as we do now.

  8. tommui November 21, 2008 9:34 am

    Made the top ten?

    The synthetic turf hasn’t arrived yet for the Ching field – so I understand.
    Hopefully it is on the way with the Christmas trees!

  9. 3-Prong November 21, 2008 9:35 am

    ST: Are we saving a scholarship or two for an unexpected blue chip that might surface down the road?

  10. ryan November 21, 2008 9:37 am

    Any hints to who may be visiting this weekend 🙂

  11. Stretch November 21, 2008 9:42 am

    copying from previous blog in case get any Hawaiian Air people lurking….

    November 21st, 2008 at 9:17 am
    there are going to be a lot less seats going up to vegas with ATA and Aloha gone and it seems that Hawaiian knows this fact as well with their HNL-LAS pricing for that week.

    To me, that’s BS . They are ripping off the people of Hawaii because they know that people will be going to the game. To their credit, they brought the fares down a little but still higher than normal. I understand they are in business to make money but I wish they would be fair to everyone. Their plane is going to be full and they will make money if they charge their regular fare.

  12. Stretch November 21, 2008 9:47 am

    Is Rocky still 100% when it comes to recruiting??

  13. madeinhawaii November 21, 2008 9:49 am

    It takes two weeks from the time the turf arrives at UH for them to finish the job. Hopefully it will arrive very very soon. It would have been nice for the Warriors to have the field ready before the first recruits came visiting. I was really hopeful that it would be ready for the Warriors to practice on before the Cincinnati game. They will need every edge they can get to prepare for that one.

  14. Hawaiianbod November 21, 2008 9:54 am

    top 15

  15. MeiLing November 21, 2008 9:55 am

    Happy Aloha Friday!

    GO ‘BOWS!!!

  16. al November 21, 2008 10:04 am

    ST….the master of the tease.

    so, just who may be credited to the likes of rocky, adam, keao, and funaki?

    and who are the new recruit hosts extraordinaires?

    answers, brah, we want answers!

  17. al November 21, 2008 10:05 am

    didn’t craig stutzmann graduate with 100% recruiting per?

  18. MeiLing November 21, 2008 10:05 am

    Do we really have the best cleats? (TIC) Hope those UA shoes are pili pono.

    Mahalo for the story on Lane’s background & view of the field.

  19. al November 21, 2008 10:06 am

    mei ling….there is no aloha friday for a recent retiree.

  20. d1島 November 21, 2008 10:10 am

    Top 20!

  21. d1島 November 21, 2008 10:11 am

    Too late!
    Already washed and sitting in the garage. 🙁

  22. d1島 November 21, 2008 10:14 am

    Maybe I’ll bring binoculars to watch those who are looking for recruits to see what they do when they spot one…

  23. addahknowjoe November 21, 2008 10:22 am


    Email you have.

  24. MeiLing November 21, 2008 10:29 am


    I’m only an interim retiree…still looking for a job in Hawai’i nei. Would love to get a job at UH. I don’t think they give their staff discounts on tickets, though. We got a small price break at NAU.

    Wish I could have gotten to the Skydome at NAU to see the new RealTurf (I think that’s what it’s called.) Bulla & Lyn got to check it out. Hope Ching-Cooke field gets done soon.

    Can anyone go to the Na Koa lunch on Monday? Maybe I’ll go, so I can meet Garret.

  25. al November 21, 2008 10:30 am

    you see….you sit too far away for any binoculars to have any effect. go to francis’ camera shop and pick up a telescope for better results. just one word of caution do not stray away to the north endzone to ogle the rainbow dancers, your boss going to whack you on the head.

    then, she’ll tell you she going home. she going get the flock out of there.

  26. d1島 November 21, 2008 10:30 am


    Morning good having you are I hope.

  27. al November 21, 2008 10:31 am

    mei ling every time you refer to your previous employer….why is it that i keep thinking of pig guts?

  28. d1島 November 21, 2008 10:34 am

    just one word of caution do not stray away to the north endzone to ogle the rainbow dancers, your boss going to whack you on the head

    Eh, LTUHF could get away with it!

  29. d1島 November 21, 2008 10:35 am

    Willie Grace!


  30. Rob25 November 21, 2008 10:40 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos and Tsaikettes!

  31. Ralph November 21, 2008 10:41 am

    ST is coach Mac limited in his recruiting budget- like $50K a year, same o as JJ’s?

  32. Stretch November 21, 2008 10:41 am

    The rain has started here on Kauai. I hope the planes don’t get backed up too much. A few years back, it was raining so hard w/ lightning that the planes couldn’t land. I don’t feel like getting stuck here on Kauai tonight.

  33. bb November 21, 2008 10:43 am

    in regards to the flat out “price” the OMNI charter might be the best way to go but its a tight fit in that 757…

    Half of their OMNI charters are already booked and the price has already jumped to a low of 899 to mid 900’s

    I smell collusion….

  34. Stretch November 21, 2008 10:44 am

    There are other options to getting to Vegas for the game at a cheaper rate but there has to be a layover somewhere.

  35. jm2375 November 21, 2008 10:50 am

    MeiLing – faculty/staff do get discounts on season tix for games, or at least they used to. Back in the early 90’s (BC – before child), I used to FB season tix and we sat in Sec H (20 yd line), lower section (what color is that?).

  36. al November 21, 2008 10:50 am

    ralph….i believe it was reported that one of the conditions of employment when hiring coach mack was a promise to drastically increase his recruiting budget. which apparently did happen under hinshaw/donovan.

    hawaiian air also chimed in with complimentary flights for the staff for the purpose of recruiting.

    i am not sure if the maloof brothers contribution is also being spent this year.

  37. Garret November 21, 2008 10:51 am


    It would be great to meet you and other Tsaikos at the Na Koa lunch! Plus, that way the money helps UH’s program instead of just going to some restaurant like a normal cattle call.

  38. al November 21, 2008 10:53 am

    stretch…there is no darkside to kauai is there?

    ok, gotta go now.

  39. Garret November 21, 2008 10:53 am


    Like Al said, UH’s recruiting budget has been increased *significantly*, especially when you count the free flights on Hawaiian Airlines–that wouldn’t have happened without the Sugar Bowl. For those who say that JJ should have been doing this before, the old budget (thanks to HF) wouldn’t have allowed it.

  40. MeiLing November 21, 2008 10:55 am

    lu’au na’au…mmmmmm

    How’s Dan Kelly’s kicking at practice? Hope he’s worked out the problems he’s had recently. I have a feeling FGs are going to be critical to a win in wet field conditions.

  41. LizKauai [Believer] November 21, 2008 10:57 am

    d1shima- ok. I’ll bring my raincoat. #2 son is home with instructions to watch for leaks and flooding. During the 40 days/nights a couple years ago, we had to sandbag. This time I’ve asked him to dig a trench around the house to the storm drain. Tsai. Well. This will be a good test for our new solar heater and Dish antenna!


  42. duffer November 21, 2008 10:57 am

    copying from previous blog in case get any Hawaiian Air people lurking….

    Do retirees count?

  43. Stretch November 21, 2008 10:59 am

    November 21st, 2008 at 10:53 am
    stretch…there is no darkside to kauai is there?

    Only when the lights go out, but that’s when the fun starts

  44. MeiLing November 21, 2008 10:59 am


    See you at lunch!

    Gotta Esme… see y’all tomorrow!

  45. Stretch November 21, 2008 11:00 am

    November 21st, 2008 at 10:57 am
    copying from previous blog in case get any Hawaiian Air people lurking….
    Do retirees count?

    Yup, retirees count because I KNOW they will tell the current leadership to stop ripping off the locals.

  46. Garret November 21, 2008 11:02 am

    The early recruiting is something that I’ve been asking for for years, and it sure has paid off. Although djmitcho’s point that this would never have happened under JJ doesn’t take into account that the recruiting world has changed and *every* school has been forced to recruit early because everyone else does it.

    For example, JJ reached 22 commits I think two months ago and they have already begun offering players for the 2010 class.

    The big difference between Mac and JJ is that Mac does a great job with home visits and JJ stopped doing them. That is a BIG difference. Plus, Tony Tuioti’s excellent job as recruiting coordinator (something that HF never gave the budget for) will put UH at a different level in organization and coordination.

    UH recruits at Kahuku much better than before…but the change in head coaches might be part of the reason. It doesn’t hurt that the son of the head coach of Kahuku is a valuable contributor to the Warriors…and didn’t he join when JJ was coach?

    Local recruiting in general is better than it has been since JJ’s 2nd recruiting class (his first full year of recruiting at UH since he had only a short time after he was hired for his first class)…and this is Mac’s 2nd recruiting class and first full year of recruiting as head coach. I credit all of the coaches for the great recruiting this year. Plus, it doesn’t hurt that the entire state rallied around the Warriors last season and all local recruits lived through that and saw how much attention their friends, family, and neighbors gave to UH. My dream would be for Mac to keep this level of recruiting going, avoiding the dip in local recruiting that JJ had after his 2nd recruiting class.

  47. penguin November 21, 2008 11:05 am

    UAL –
    HNL to/from LAS
    Leave Thurs., Return Wed. $648 R/T
    ______ penguin no fly.

  48. madeinhawaii November 21, 2008 11:09 am


    So what would you say would be an ‘ideal’ mix in terms of percentages between “local” and “other”?

    I wonder what the percentages are at some of the more storied programs?

  49. Garret November 21, 2008 11:09 am

    KGMB preview of the Idaho game, with a video also at this link.

    “You know we’re excited to go out there and play but at the same time we have to take it one game at a time. Idaho’s not going to lay down for us, it’s their last game, so they’re going to come out firing.”

    “Their record doesn’t mean anything it doesn’t mean that they’re not a great football team, they get a lot of yards every game. it’s just sometimes they don’t score.”

    Defensively, Idaho’s secondary will put Hawaii’s offense to the test. Last season the Vandals picked off Colt Brennan 5-times. Quarterback Greg Alexander hasn’t thrown an interception since Florida. A streak that equals 94-straight passes.

    “I think mentally I’m starting to grasp the offense and starting to see things a lot quicker. The defense is really starting to slow down. These last couple of weeks have been big for me.”

  50. Kazz November 21, 2008 11:12 am

    RE: Ching Field.

    I’ve been seeing large rolled up items on the field. Of course I saw them at night so it’s hard to say what those things are but they do not look like the turf itself.

    I can’t wait to see it when it is done.

    Also, looks like some work is being done to the UH intramural sports office. Last night I saw that they are renovating it.


  51. Garret November 21, 2008 11:14 am


    The ideal for me is to get the best players no matter where they are, but if players are equal then I’d take the local player because he’s going to have a support system in place and the motivation to play in front of family and friends. Some mainland recruits get homesick and transfer out, so any ties go to the local player in my opinion.

    There are a LOT of excellent players in Hawaii high schools, and keeping them home is a lot cheaper on the recruiting budget than recruiting a mainland player. If the top local players stay home, then that saves the coaches time (much less travel time) to be able to recruit more effectively the other players. When I talk about keeping local players home, I don’t mean just anyone, I mean the type of recruits Mac is getting now that are wanted by Pac-10 and other programs. Those type of recruiting wins are the key to excellence!

    There are some positions that UH will have to recruit from the mainland. There aren’t many 6’5″+ offensive tackles in Hawaii high schools and not many 6’+ CBs, for example.

  52. Garret November 21, 2008 11:15 am

    Keeping local players home also should help with attendance. The family and friends of that player will go to the games, and many from that player’s high school will go too.

  53. Garret November 21, 2008 11:16 am

    Article about Manti visiting Notre Dame.

    Hailing from Honolulu, Hawaii and Punahou High School, Manti Te’o is perhaps the most sought-after outside linebacker prospect in the nation, thanks to his speed and tackling instinct. The blue-chip talent has received special treatment from coach Charlie Weis, as he has personally flown to Hawaii twice in the past year to recruit Te’o.

    Mike Frank, who covers Notre Dame football for thinks very highly of Te’o, and would be an excellent addition to an already solid class of 2009.

    “Manti is a game-changing type of linebacker,” Frank said. “He’s a guy that can make big, big plays. He’s a guy with incredible speed and the ability to run sideline to sideline. He’s got the kind of speed and athleticism that they’ve been looking for at linebacker.”

    If Te’o were to give his verbal commitment to Notre Dame, Frank believes that the linebacker would have an immediate impact, even as a freshman.

    “He’s the type of guy that if he comes in as a true freshman, he has the ability to get on the field quickly, maybe even start,” Frank said. “He really has that kind of skill.”

    One of the more interesting aspects of Te’o’s recruitment is that the high-school senior wishes to go on a Mormon missionary trip in between his sophomore and junior seasons. Coach Weis has already granted Te’o approval to embark on the mission if he pleases.

  54. Garret November 21, 2008 11:20 am

    SDSU students are fighting against the fee hike to support the Athletic Department. Problem is, if they don’t raise the fees on the students, SDSU will not have enough money to remain in D-IA because the football attendance has been pitiful.

    I feel very badly for SDSU students. The student fee to support their Athletic Department used to be $30 per year. The school proposed to increase that from $30 per year to $190 per year, but the students voted down the increase…and SDSU’s President overruled the election results and increased the fee to $190! Now, they want to increase the fee to $350 per student per year, another $160 increase…and SDSU’s President will do it even if the students protest and vote it down.

    A San Diego State advisory committee is expected to make a recommendation today on a student fee increase proposal that’s been described as “critical” to the future of SDSU athletics. The $160 annual increase has been narrowly endorsed by SDSU’s student government and is expected to get a positive recommendation.

    But opposition has mounted in recent weeks, critics say, because the process to enact the fee increase seems like a charade to them.

    Whatever the committee decides, the final decision rests with SDSU President Stephen Weber, who has been firm in his support of Division I athletics and SDSU’s struggling football program.

    Weber is expected to approve the fee, much as he did in 2004, when he overruled a student vote against increasing the same fee from $30 to $190 annually. That fee increase also was described by proponents as necessary to maintain SDSU’s Division I-A status. Back then, Weber said he was overruling the referendum because “it needed to be done for our university and our students.”

    This time, the SDSU administration wants to increase the same activities fee to $350 annually. Instead of holding a referendum on it, Weber opted to hold “alternative consultation” in which the fee increase is discussed with various student constituencies to gauge their opinion on it.

  55. Kekoa November 21, 2008 11:20 am

    Stretch ~ Duffer’s been telling ’em…they all get deaf e’ah wen coming to kala! Greed is a terrible thing, and is the 1st thing that comes to mind when I think of HAL.

  56. Garret November 21, 2008 11:23 am

    My daughter is home from preschool…I’ve got to go. Tomorrow we’ll be in Pasadena and Sunday we’ll be in Hawaii! I probably won’t be on the blog much after today.

    I went to get the Blackberry Storm today and it is being shipped to Hawaii since they were sold out at 7:35am (people lined up starting at 4:30am!). They didn’t charge me any tax since they are shipping it out of state, so I saved a ton! I hope that I can get used to blogging with it, as it will make it much easier to get to the blog wherever I am.

  57. addahknowjoe November 21, 2008 11:33 am


    Awhile back, you mentioned an idea Texas employs that I thought would be something UH should seriously explore. It was about setting up campus visits for juniors in high school where they’d have to pay their way to get here. That would be an excellent tool to use for local blue chip recruits.

  58. Kekoa November 21, 2008 11:34 am

    Mei Ling ~ You must flash the secret sign when you get past the garden entrance area. I’ll tell you how that secret sign works at the t-gate.

  59. Kekoa November 21, 2008 11:41 am

    Maybe we Tsaiko’s could get involved one day to sponser a “Meet The Pros” day at UH SSC Banquet room for a luncheon. The recruits could have lunch with former UH players who made it to the NFL and exchange “pleasantries.”

  60. addahknowjoe November 21, 2008 11:49 am

    Good idea. someone should check on the legalities of that to see if can.

  61. SteveM November 21, 2008 11:59 am

    Decisions, decisions… $7-900 for Las Vegas and/or $749 for 11-day Mexican Riviera/Sea of Cortez cruise out of San Francisco on Sunday, Sept 20…

    Been 429 days since my last cruise and I am losing weight 😐 Guess you know which way I’m leaning. Can still go to LAS but catch a flight out at 0600 after the game to SFO…

    Been looking at this cruise for a month and don’t know how long the price will hold. Might go up or down yet…but the “bird in hand”… I’m about ready to book. Then look at air with LAS stopover soon.

  62. Stretch November 21, 2008 12:03 pm

    SteveM – you should go to the Seattle game on Sept 12, take a cruise for the week, then go over to Vegas for the Sept 19 game. You kill 3 birds and a credit card with one stone.

  63. homey Ⅵ November 21, 2008 12:18 pm




    Sunny day.

  64. Rob25 November 21, 2008 12:26 pm


    November 21st, 2008 at 12:03 pm
    SteveM – you should go to the Seattle game on Sept 12, take a cruise for the week, then go over to Vegas for the Sept 19 game. You kill 3 birds and a credit card with one stone.

    Nice! Now I wish that they had the NFL schedule out sooner so that I could try and plan my UNLV trip.

  65. madeinhawaii November 21, 2008 12:33 pm

    So who is this Italia Crichton, DE out of Cal that supposedly has an offer from Hawaii?

  66. madeinhawaii November 21, 2008 12:34 pm

    Is he coming for a visit?

  67. SteveM November 21, 2008 12:44 pm

    November 21st, 2008 at 12:03 pm
    SteveM – you should go to the Seattle game on Sept 12, take a cruise for the week, then go over to Vegas for the Sept 19 game. You kill 3 birds and a credit card with one stone.

    Stretch, sadly no $ and no major ships that fit that scenario. But if both games were scheduled a week later, there are 4 ships that could take you to Los Angeles from Seattle/Vancouver as they exit the Alaska season. We are one week out of sync for the cruise ship migration south. Guess you must settle for the land casinos in between games… 😆

  68. Rob25 November 21, 2008 12:44 pm

    Any rain on Kauai yet?

    Wish it would just pour tonight so that we won’t get it as bad tomorrow for the game. I don’t have to worry about during the game…just the walk to the stadium.

  69. Rob25 November 21, 2008 12:47 pm

    OK if I went to the WSU and the UNLV game then I would have to nix the Raider game. Don’t think that Frank would like that…me putting the WSU game ahead of his Raiders.

  70. Pomai November 21, 2008 12:50 pm

    Has there been any more info on the Boyd group package, for the 09 UNLV game?

  71. Jay November 21, 2008 12:52 pm

    Afternoon Tsaikos. Still dry here in downtown….so far.

  72. Garret November 21, 2008 1:11 pm

    Interesting that graduation rates are up for college athletes but athletes are taking the same major at their schools more now. Are graduation rates up because schools are pushing athletes to take easier majors that won’t be as useful after graduation?

    Teams now can lose scholarships and access to postseason play if enough athletes are not on track to receive a degree or do not graduate.

    But giving athletes a more meaningful academic experience also was part of the new rules’ intent, NCAA president Myles Brand told USA TODAY for a story in 2003. However, Syracuse University athlete Dylan Malagrino, who had headed the NCAA Student-Athlete Advisory Committee, expressed concern that “coaches and academic administrators in the athletic department might be strongly encouraging students to take easier majors or to choose a major and never switch.”

    Graduation rates have improved as the rules have phased in over the past few years. Whether that has been due to students taking easier majors has not been studied.

    Professor Robert Case, previously at Indiana University and now at Old Dominion’s Sport Management Program, and other researchers have studied athletes’ clustering on a smaller scale. Using probability testing for NCAA tournament basketball teams, they have determined that if 25% or more of a team is in the same major, it constitutes a non-random cluster, regardless of the size of the team.

    USA TODAY took it a step further: the 25% mark was used for larger teams (10 upperclassmen or more, with a minimum of five athletes in the major) and a 33% benchmark was used for smaller teams (between five and nine upperclass athletes, minimum: 3). Fifty-five of the 654 teams did not have enough juniors and seniors on the team to be considered.

    Eighty-three percent of the schools had at least one cluster. One-third of schools had two or more teams clustering in the same major program.

    One-third of the 235 clusters included at least 50% of the students on the team with the same major

  73. Garret November 21, 2008 1:13 pm

    I know that A-House has wished for for something like this to happen in the WAC. The ACC actually noticed the mistakes by the refs before the losing coach could complain to the conference about the refs! Karl Benson would never be that proactive!

    Some members of the officiating crew that worked last week’s North Carolina loss at Maryland have been disciplined by the ACC.

    “In the normal review, some officiating errors with the clock were made, and some members of the crew received disciplinary action,” Mike Finn, ACC associate commissioner for football media relations, said Thursday.

    Doug Rhoads, ACC football officiating coordinator, recognized the error and called North Carolina coach Butch Davis to talk about it before Davis had a chance to contact the ACC, Finn said.</blockquote.

  74. madeinhawaii November 21, 2008 1:14 pm

    Hmmm according to Sportsbow it looks like Safety, Stanjarivus McKay is Colorado bound.

    Let’s just hope he doesn’t drag his other, Hawaii Commit, players along with him.

  75. Garret November 21, 2008 1:14 pm

    BSU responded to the USA Today article about athletes clustering in a major. Nearly half of BSU’s football team are majoring in Communications.

    Schools officials are offended at a USA Today story suggesting they and other universities steer athletes into easy classes and majors. They say the report hurts the university’s work to present itself as a serious academic institution that wants to attract research.

    The report does “not fairly and accurately reflect the facts and is not a good reflection on the university,” said Boise State President Bob Kustra.

    USA Today reported in its Wednesday edition that 48 percent of junior and senior players on the 2007 Boise State football team majored in communications. Similar clusters are found at other schools, the newspaper reported.

  76. Garret November 21, 2008 1:17 pm

    Urban Meyer to leave Florida to become the next coach at Notre Dame?

    First, let me interject to say that just because I think Notre Dame is in Meyer’s future doesn’t mean I want it to be. It’d be great to see him spend the next 20 years of his coaching life at UF. I just don’t think he will.

    Again, that’s just an opinion; an opinion that got heavy reaction.

    A common contention in my e-mail in-box is that in 2004, Meyer turned down Notre Dame in favor of becoming Florida’s coach. Why, then, would he leave a school he once chose over Notre Dame to go to Notre Dame?


    Because things change.

    Meyer’s self-proclaimed “dream job” — his quote, not mine — is Notre Dame, where he was once an assistant under Lou Holtz, spending five years with the Golden Domers. Meyer also spent the first two years of his coaching career as a graduate assistant at Ohio State, where he earned his master’s degree. He is an Ohio boy who grew up revering Woody Hayes.

    So why didn’t Meyer take the Fighting Irish job in 2004? Because the timing wasn’t right. His authorized biography explains, “Florida’s biggest advantage would turn out to be Urban’s and Shelley’s desire for a strong family life, because he could recruit closer to home.”

    So, again, the main reason Meyer chose Florida over Notre Dame in 2004 was because he had a young family.

    Memo to Gator fans: The family isn’t that young anymore.

    Oldest daughter Nicole is 18, getting ready to leave the nest and head to Georgia Tech on a volleyball scholarship. Next oldest is Gigi, 15, a high school sophomore. Then there’s Nathan, who turns 10 Monday. Soon, he’ll only have one child at home, which makes it much easier for him to balance his professional and personal life — i.e. the rigors of coaching the Fighting Irish.

  77. takoboy November 21, 2008 1:23 pm

    mckay to Colorado, that’s too bad. wish da kid luck and see him in 2010, have a sinking feeling we don’t see any LBP commits come LOI day. that’s okay, we’ll move on with what we got who wants to be warriors.

  78. takoboy November 21, 2008 1:27 pm

    wow thanx for dat article, garrett. would’ve never dreamed UM would leave da gators for da golden domers but after reading that article it makes sense. i really really hope for lots of rain tonite so as there ain’t much tomorrow.

  79. LizKauai [Believer] November 21, 2008 1:27 pm

    Drizzling in Kalaheo but the doppler shows a lot of rain along the Napali Coast and North Shore.

  80. homey November 21, 2008 1:57 pm

    It’s pouring rain!

  81. A-House November 21, 2008 1:58 pm


    You are correct in your post #73. Benson is no leader for he will do everything, but the RIGHT thing whether is scheduling football games to holding his “officials” coordinator responsible. Where is the “MORAL COURAGE” to stand up and discipline underlings. If he cannot do it, then he should resign.

    And we wonder why the WAC fails to draw attention to itself for being out front in integrety and being a model conference that should be considered for BCS consideration.

  82. Hoohiki November 21, 2008 2:05 pm

    Hi folks!

    Since everyone is reporting about the weather on their perspective island….Here on Maui, it is humid, humid, humid…feels like it’s gonna rain but nada drop. Can smell and feel it in the air.

    Shane Victorino is making the rounds here on the island. We’ll be attending a fundraiser tomorrow for his alma mater, St. Anthony School, where the auctions will include Victorino autographed shirts, balls, caps, pictures. Shane, give more so we can build a gym, athletic complex, swimming pool, field, or even a school building and name it after you. Your old school needs you. By the way, he won’t be making an appearance because he has another event to attend. Awww.

  83. Garret November 21, 2008 2:12 pm


    At least you have an example now of how a different conference (ACC) disciplined refs that messed up during a game. It can be done… but I don’t think Benson will do it.

    By the way, I haven’t heard back from you via e-mail so I assume you don’t need the DVD/VCR with coax input anymore?

  84. Garret November 21, 2008 2:13 pm

    I hope that it doesn’t rain too much tomorrow during the tailgate and game!

  85. al November 21, 2008 2:17 pm

    mih…….@74. no worry. if they go others will come .

  86. Bulla November 21, 2008 2:20 pm

    to the Tsaiko nation,

    stay safe and stary dry, this is supposed to be a very heavy rainfall for a few days. right now it is 39 degrees in ogden, with snow on the mountains. perfect weather for shoyu chicken, spam musubis and buttered corn…..wait, that’s what we just cooked for the boys! haha

    merry maids from honolulu dropped by to the apartment for the boys, it was mr/mrs bulla impersonating the merry maids….but all for love, even the brillo pad on the stove action, haha

    GOOD LUCK to the Warriors tomorrow night, could be a wet one, but on the field turf, guaranteed it won’t be a muddy one.

    a hui hou gang……

  87. Jason November 21, 2008 2:26 pm

    It’s not raining, but it’s very humid here in Salt Lake. It was not raining, but it was very humid in the Ward Center area two hours ago. It was not raining, but it was very humid at UH four hours ago.

    I bought a pair of Under Armour shorts, so let’s see if I can do a good Kazz impersonation. 😀

  88. Jason November 21, 2008 2:38 pm

    Just got this in an e-mail from UH. Forgive the CAPS Lock, that wasn’t me:

    The National Weather Service has issued a flash flood watch for Oahu and the rest of the Hawaiian Islands, so please be aware of the possibility of flooding:









  89. BG November 21, 2008 2:39 pm


    Got a call this morning that my friend and his wife are sick and can’t make tomorrow’s game. Got three tickets available in north endzone in the blue section under the scoreboard area. Supposedly under the overhang (and dry) according to the ticket booth lady.

    Call me (381-9334). First come first served…$11 ea (face value). I will give special deals to students.

  90. d1島 November 21, 2008 2:46 pm

    From the NOAA site

    1230 PM HST FRI NOV 21 2008


    HIGHS 75 TO 80. LOWS

  91. d1島 November 21, 2008 2:48 pm

    sorry, forgot the url

  92. LizKauai [Believer] November 21, 2008 2:51 pm


    Davone_Bess Good Luck to the UH Wahine volleyball team in the tournament. Satele and I going to try and watch. He said he’d make me some…Kinipopo??? about 4 hours ago from web

  93. d1島 November 21, 2008 3:06 pm

    Hi LizK!

    Looks like Kauai catching the brunt of it again.
    Take care!

  94. A-House November 21, 2008 3:10 pm


    Responded to your email last night – nearly immediately after I received yours.

    We have a DVD burner at home.

  95. LizKauai [Believer] November 21, 2008 3:12 pm

    Thanks, d1.
    The rain is starting to pound now and I hear distant rumblings of thunder.

  96. Bulla November 21, 2008 3:14 pm

    take care liz,

    this could be a big one….whew, need to stay home, eat some soup, hot sour or chook, and watch the boob tube

  97. Bulla November 21, 2008 3:16 pm

    it’s only 5:50 pm and it’s as dark as midnight here in ogden

  98. al November 21, 2008 3:17 pm

    UH/UNLV 2009 packages available now.


    rates just in.
    email me at:

    let me know if you are definitely interested and i will send you the info. first come first served.

    air packages available via omni charter, hawaiian air, and delta. prices vary by carrier. starting at 869 pax.

    all based upon dbl occupancy.

    also, game only available.

  99. curveball November 21, 2008 3:23 pm

    Look at the channel 8 site.. then the radar and you can zoom in..pretty cool…

  100. madeinhawaii November 21, 2008 3:28 pm

    Remaining offers on the table

    Steven Fanua – MLB (Milpitas HS) Milpitas, CA 6-1/210/4.60
    Conrad Scheidt – MLB (Kamehameha Secondary), Honolulu, HI 6-1/225/4.70

    Defensive Tackless
    Nathan Mageo – DT JuCo (New Mexico Military ) Roswell, NM 6-4/280/4.96

    Stanjarivus McKay – S (Polytechnic HS) Long Beach, CA 6-2/205 (Probably to Colorado)
    Aulola Tonga – S (Kahuku HS) Kahuku, HI 6-3/195
    Jeffrey Taylor – S (Cantwell Sacred Heart Of Mary) Montebello, CA 6-1/200/4.50
    Italia Crichton – DE (Lakewood HS) Lakewood, CA 6-3/230
    Asi Hosea – S (Cottonwood HS) Salt Lake City, UT 5-10/170

    Chaz Russell – CB JuCo (Pierce College) Woodland Hills, CA 6-0/200/4.40


    Offense Guard
    Benson Ma’afala OG (Mililani HS) Mililani, HI 6-2/307

    Running Backs
    Isi Sofele RB (Cottonwood HS) Salt Lake City, UT 5-7/175/4.44
    Troy Evans RB (Laney) JuCo Oakland, CA 5-9/210/4.45

  101. al November 21, 2008 3:38 pm

    mih…..i think there is more to the list and some that are actually not on the list. but, that is a secret only tsai and mack could tell.

    i found out a few years ago that you can’t believe everything that you read, especially when it comes to recruiting.

    case in point, a few years ago when dick tomey took over san jose st. he was offering everyone we had on our list because he had no time to research. therefore, there are times that we don’t list players for that same reason.

    ever wonder why last year and to a degree this year, many whom we listed smu also went after? so, it is wise not to disclose all that you have. kind of like playing poker you see.

  102. letsgowarriors November 21, 2008 4:04 pm

    a good example of what al is saying is greg alexander last year. they pretty much kept that a secret till LOI day.

  103. al November 21, 2008 4:09 pm

    letsgo…they found him just two days before loi day.

  104. letsgowarriors November 21, 2008 4:12 pm

    but they still kept it quiet till LOI

  105. madeinhawaii November 21, 2008 4:12 pm

    These were guys already listed on … nothing new.. just summarizing.. but it’s nice to know we’re looking at players who are all 2 stars and up with a lot of upside..

  106. Garret November 21, 2008 4:20 pm


    Every player is basically rated as 2 stars and up. A 1 star rating normally means that the scouting service hasn’t reviewed the player yet. Since I trust the coaches’ ability to rate players over the scouting services, I actually prefer a 1 star rating over a 2 star rating…but this late in the season there shouldn’t be very many 1 star players left who can actually play.

  107. Garret November 21, 2008 4:25 pm


    I think that in most cases this year, SMU had the earlier offer for the players that have interest from both UH and SMU, if we go by the recruiting services. Last year was crazy since SMU did offer UH recruits late, but in most cases those were players from Texas or players who Reinbold recruited. SMU didn’t have to use scout or rivals since Reinbold already was in contact with those players.

    I wonder what would have happened if Mac had kept Reinbold on his staff until *after* NLI day in February? Wasn’t Reinbold under contract through the school year? Mac didn’t have to release him early so that he could help someone else recruit…especially since he would go after UH recruits.

  108. Committed Road Warrior November 21, 2008 4:26 pm

    Fresno-San Jose game on the Deuce starting in about half an hour.

  109. duffer November 21, 2008 4:30 pm

    Geez, I hope Stretch can make it home today. Looking at the radar, Kauai is getting lots of rain!

  110. al November 21, 2008 4:34 pm

    UH/UNLV 2009 packages available now.


    rates just in.
    email me at:

    let me know if you are definitely interested and i will send you the info. first come first served.

    air packages available via omni charter, hawaiian air, and delta. prices vary by carrier. starting at 869 pax.

    all based upon dbl occupancy.

    also, game only available.

    this is advanced tsaiko only reservations. no wait>

  111. bb November 21, 2008 4:50 pm

    add this to the boydgaming packages

    85 for tailgate and endzone ticket
    95 for tailgate and sideline ticket

    tailgate includes food, beer, softdrinks and transportation

  112. bb November 21, 2008 5:05 pm

    also in regards the boydgaming charter packages on OMNI….there are 4 flight patterns..the thursday to Tuesday one only has approx 75 seats left…There is going to be an AD in Sundays paper so the word is going to get out mainstream come Sunday. The prices are also subject to being “bumped” up after so many people book each particular flight.

  113. Garret November 21, 2008 5:08 pm

    I’d choose either game-only package listed above, whichever one that the Tsaikos were going to be in. It would be a shame to have everyone split up with some on the sideline and some in the end zone.

  114. Garret November 21, 2008 5:10 pm

    I’m sure that my parents will be at the game, plus my wife and kids will go to Vegas but won’t go to the game.

  115. Garret November 21, 2008 5:21 pm

    Samson’s coach praised him to the press yesterday.

    (On the play and growth of Samson Satele so far this season) – “I think Samson’s getting better and better each game, I really do. One of the areas I think he’s improved the most in is the mental part of it. I do think a large part of that has to do with certainly what he’s done off the field in the meeting rooms. You hear a lot about these secret spy meetings that (Chad) Pennington and the group is having and all of these things, but that’s one thing. I think what (offensive line coach) Mike Maser has done with him that way from understanding what’s going on has been something that’s been real good for him, too, teaching him how to study film that way. More importantly, just Samson taking control of what’s happening out there. He’s done a nice job that way, gotten much better since the day that we walked through the door that way. From a physical standpoint, I think all of the constant reps of Jason Ferguson during the course of the summer has helped him a lot. Against some of the bigger players right now, he’s been able to compete in there and compete pretty well against some of those players. His forte is quickness; he’s very quick off the ball. It’s something that he’s good at and when you’re playing against bigger people, quickness can hurt them a little bit.”

  116. Garret November 21, 2008 5:24 pm

    Feature story on Samson!

    Speed and quickness set Dolphins center Samson Satele apart.

    While those attributes might benefit him most weekends, the Dolphins are hopeful it won’t be used against him Sunday when he lines up against New England Pro Bowl nose tackle Vince Wilfork.

    Satele said that Wilfork, the former University of Miami standout, has been the most challenging matchup of his young career.

    “It’s unbelievable what he does,” Satele said. “[Wilfork] sits a yard off the ball and you think you can get him. But as soon as you take that first step he’s by you, or in your face. … Other guys try to beat you with speed. He’s beating you with power and speed.”

  117. Ryan November 21, 2008 5:25 pm

    Remaining offers on the table

    Steven Fanua – MLB (Milpitas HS) Milpitas, CA 6-1/210/4.60
    Conrad Scheidt – MLB (Kamehameha Secondary), Honolulu, HI 6-1/225/4.70

    Defensive Tackless
    Nathan Mageo – DT JuCo (New Mexico Military ) Roswell, NM 6-4/280/4.96

    Stanjarivus McKay – S (Polytechnic HS) Long Beach, CA 6-2/205 (Probably to Colorado)
    Aulola Tonga – S (Kahuku HS) Kahuku, HI 6-3/195
    Jeffrey Taylor – S (Cantwell Sacred Heart Of Mary) Montebello, CA 6-1/200/4.50
    Italia Crichton – DE (Lakewood HS) Lakewood, CA 6-3/230
    Asi Hosea – S (Cottonwood HS) Salt Lake City, UT 5-10/170

    Chaz Russell – CB JuCo (Pierce College) Woodland Hills, CA 6-0/200/4.40


    Offense Guard
    Benson Ma’afala OG (Mililani HS) Mililani, HI 6-2/307

    Running Backs
    Isi Sofele RB (Cottonwood HS) Salt Lake City, UT 5-7/175/4.44
    Troy Evans RB (Laney) JuCo Oakland, CA 5-9/210/4.45

    Chaz Russell is playing for West Virginia this year he was a late addition to there roster, so you can cross him off the list

  118. Garret November 21, 2008 5:25 pm

    Good to read about how Samson’s film study has improved his game.

    Coach Sparano said Satele, who allowed two sacks in the first two games of 2008, has steadily improved. He has only allowed one sack since.

    Sparano said Satele’s biggest improvements have been in his film study, which has helped him become more efficient making the appropriate line calls.

  119. madeinhawaii November 21, 2008 5:27 pm

    For those that missed “The Coach Mac Show” this past Sunday/Monday. It’s finally up on the KBMB site.

  120. MeiLing November 21, 2008 5:41 pm


    If it’s raining during the tail-gate, is there “shelter” for the grill, or will someone bring a portable grill? I don’t have a working oven here to roast the char siu & was hoping to cook it there.

    Let me know. If I have to, I’ll go to my Mom’s to cook it.


  121. curveball November 21, 2008 5:41 pm

    Raining Kalihi Valley………

  122. Garret November 21, 2008 5:42 pm

    It would be great if Isi Sofele was at the game tomorrow! His season ended tonight because his team lost in today’s Utah 4A championship game–the team that beat them has won 4 of the last 5 Utah state titles!

    In the biggest game of the season against the best team in Utah in his division, Isi had 20 carries for 194 yards and 3 TDs! Isi’s team was down 21-0…until Isi ran for 140 yards and 2 TDs in the 2nd quarter! In the 3rd quarter, Isi scored on an 80 yard TD run to put his team ahead 28-21. Unfortunately for Isi’s team, the final score was 34-28.

  123. LizKauai [Believer] November 21, 2008 5:53 pm

    Kauai is pretty much under orange on the Doppler. I gotta get ukuleleboi to the airport for his trek to Hale Kekoa soon.

    Good luck getting out, Stretch!
    Jiggety Jig!

  124. lopaka43 November 21, 2008 5:57 pm

    Aloha, Tsaiko Ohana!!

    Looks like the Idaho game is going to be real wet. Here is what the City’s Department of Emergency Management is saying as of 2:49 pm today

    This update is based on a Friday video teleconference with the National Weather Service in Honolulu.

    Current conditions are that a surface low continues to build up over the Hawaiian Islands, will cause heavy rains, beginning tonight or early tomorrow.
    The greatest threat period will begin in earnest about 24-48 hours and last throughout the weekend, unchanged since yesterday.
    The rain should be 3”-6” over a 24 hour period, with locally heavy areas receiving up to 8”-10”, unchanged since yesterday
    There will be very little wind associated with this storm, unless the thunderstorms to the far northwest of us begin to move in.
    Thunderstorms have developed west of Kauai, but haven’t moved east.
    Weather Service is still predicting this to be a heavy storm.

    All: Please continue preparatory actions, review plans, keep aware of the current situation through your radio or television, and take action if necessary.

  125. chawan_cut November 21, 2008 5:59 pm

    fresno and san jose
    playing in a turnover field position game.

  126. chawan_cut November 21, 2008 6:08 pm

    we’re about to disappear from radar….

  127. Kekoa November 21, 2008 6:30 pm

    Liz ~ I’ll call you when the “package” arrives. Kimana is going to pick him up at the airport. He’s been working on some new material they can ‘jam’ on the new amp and speakers.

    We are Beef Tripe Stewing tonite so we can make yo stomach come warm in all that wet weather at the Cabana.

    See Ya!

  128. Kekoa November 21, 2008 6:40 pm

    Liz – I just got a call from D-1. I will pick you up at the airport in the morning, because he’s had a small change of plans. Just give me a call when you are on the ground as I will be coming in from the T-gate.

    Bye bye Stir-Fry…and stay DRY!

  129. wafan November 21, 2008 6:45 pm

    Hey there!

    Please do not send more rain our way — the last rain you sent flooded a lot of towns.


  130. Mark November 21, 2008 6:47 pm

    Been following UH football recruiting for 40 years, this has the potential to be the best one yet. Coach Mac, you da man!!!

  131. d1島 November 21, 2008 7:35 pm

    I think we’re gonna dodge a bullet….

  132. Ralph November 21, 2008 7:42 pm

    stretch did you make it out of Kauai?

  133. A-House November 21, 2008 7:47 pm

    Garret: you have mail!

  134. chawan_cut November 21, 2008 7:54 pm

    idaho tomorrow

  135. Ralph November 21, 2008 7:55 pm

    wahine vb on the tube

  136. SteveM November 21, 2008 8:14 pm

    November 21st, 2008 at 4:34 pm
    UH/UNLV 2009 packages available now.


    rates just in.
    email me at:

    let me know if you are definitely interested and i will send you the info. first come first served.

    air packages available via omni charter, hawaiian air, and delta. prices vary by carrier. starting at 869 pax.

    all based upon dbl occupancy.

    also, game only available.

    this is advanced tsaiko only reservations. no wait

    The Boyd Charter Packages info (from Al) are posted at:

    The above Tsai-ko web page will serve as the Las Vegas logistics and resources page (similar to the “Away Games” page) through game day.

    Do not be concerned if your names have been removed from the Boyd portion of the table. The preliminary survey info has served its purpose and now only definite RSVPs will be listed in the Boyd portion of the table. Al will provide the RSVPs received info, but please carbon copy me if possible.

    Those who can reconfirm alternate arrangements in the second half of the table can email me directly at: stevem.hnl (at)

  137. Ralph November 21, 2008 8:48 pm

    11 blocks for the vandals….when it is all said and done, wahine wins

  138. WarriorMojo November 21, 2008 8:51 pm

    Woah, Tsaikos, there was a gathering of the readers of three of the Advertiser’s blogs this evening at Fort Street Bar and Grill. They had the back room reserved and had people playing music. Were we invited to this shindig?

  139. Stephen Tsai November 21, 2008 8:54 pm

    OK, I’m back. Sorry I’ve been running around all day.
    But I can answer a few questions.

    Re: Recruiting budget.
    J.J. was never told he was limited to $50,000. But he did have an overall budget that was fixed. When all of the essentials were paid for, that left about $50,000 for recruiting. He probably could have moved some money into recruiting. But that would have meant, I dunno, no pens or note pads.

  140. Stephen Tsai November 21, 2008 8:58 pm

    Re: Recruiting lists.

    UH doesn’t pay attention to those.
    It uses its own evaluations to decide on which players to offer.
    That, of course, is the danger of recruiting so early. When you get a commitment in October, other schools get interested. It’s like dating. Some guys won’t ask out a woman whom nobody else is interested in.

  141. Stephen Tsai November 21, 2008 8:59 pm

    One of the guys in the office noticed that a recruit’s star rating increased after he verbal’d to UH.

  142. Stephen Tsai November 21, 2008 9:05 pm

    I think UH is done recruiting safeties.
    But I heard today they might pick up another quarterback. No, not the Punahou guy. But another one has emerged on the radar.

  143. FloridaTed November 21, 2008 9:08 pm

    I hope it doesn’t rain again this Saturday, if it does, it’ll cost us at least 5000 fans in the stands.

    It will be quite an interesting comparison in BigMacks second year to this one. I really think the performance dips are over and we’ll have 9 + wins every year from here on out. Am I overly optimistic here?.

  144. FloridaTed November 21, 2008 9:12 pm

    I hope they don’t over load on QB’s, unless they’ll find a super gem. I’d rather have too many line men, of which you actually can never have too many, see this year.

  145. Stephen Tsai November 21, 2008 9:14 pm

    I think things will be interesting next year.
    Greg Alexander is finally comfortable with the offense. Malcolm Lane came over to reporters today to praise Alexander for never giving up.
    The offense should be OK.
    I’m concerned about the defense, especially in the secondary. And it’s going to be tough to replace Elimimian and Adam Leonard.
    UH also needs to find a punter and holder.

  146. chawan_cut November 21, 2008 9:18 pm

    here comes the rain…
    here comes the rain…..

  147. chawan_cut November 21, 2008 9:21 pm

    this is how the wahine should be playing the vandals

  148. Justin November 21, 2008 9:25 pm

    is UH really done recruiting safeties? I hope not cuz i’m not too big on wadsworth or alo. Neither of them have good speed and a lack of speed at the safety position is killing us this year. Hopefully they can land that Mickens kid since it seems Mckay is out of the picture.

  149. FloridaTed November 21, 2008 9:33 pm


    I thought we were pretty set at line backer, even though we lose two great ones, also at DB, aren’t we red shirting some good JC’s? Off course, a Mouton is also hard to replace, but I think it will be easier for BigMack to get the D humming than it was the O for this year.

    They should use one of the back up QB’s as holder and hold try outs for punter with the special teams, would save two scholar ships or at least one. With the offense coming along as it has, maybe we don’t need a great punter, lol.

  150. chawan_cut November 21, 2008 9:33 pm

    dangit shoji
    why you gotta play with the lineup. you’re up by 10 and then you mass sub. and now they come back.
    just end the game. no time to mess around.

  151. chawan_cut November 21, 2008 9:35 pm

    good thing its idaho, so it doesn’t matter. in real games he can’t do this.

  152. al November 21, 2008 9:36 pm

    the defense will be hit hard. i am more concerned that we lose our top three dtackles, our best de, adam n sol, mouton, dowling, roberts, and erob. that leaves two starters returning.

  153. al November 21, 2008 9:40 pm

    oh so that qb must be a pretty good one indeed. i mean what else could turn the head of a defense minded head coach.

  154. J-Force November 21, 2008 9:53 pm

    GO GOVS! GO WARRIORS! anyway, way to go coach Mac and staff on excellent recruiting so far and this bruddah will be behind all the way. Howzit garret!

  155. Ralph November 21, 2008 9:54 pm

    hopefully our offense will be high powered next season so our d can slowly retool and be up to speed when we face boise and fresno…

  156. longdistance808 November 21, 2008 9:55 pm

    out from left field, i know but…

    any guesses who wins the CrApple Cup tomorrow?

    Washington or Washington State?

  157. Garret November 21, 2008 10:00 pm

    Howzit J-Force!

  158. Ralph November 21, 2008 10:00 pm

    is D1 at the govs game?

  159. Garret November 21, 2008 10:01 pm

    Free play link time. Please ignore my next 5 posts if you do not want the off-topic stuff.

    Obama’s flip-phone account was accessed and viewed by Verizon employees without authorization…good thing he hadn’t used that account for months since he’s reliant on his Blackberry. Remember, security experts have already mentioned that they want Obama to give up his Blackberry once he becomes President due to concerns that his messages might not be secure…this incident pretty much should end Obama’s hopes to keep his Blackberry.

  160. Ralph November 21, 2008 10:01 pm

    did we recruit anyone from Farrington or Kealakehe

  161. Garret November 21, 2008 10:01 pm

    WalMart will be selling the iPhone on December 28…and the rumor is that the iPhone will cost just $149 in January because Apple needs to drop its price due to heavy competition.

  162. Garret November 21, 2008 10:01 pm

    Taiwan research company has developed a folding display for smartphones that would allow the smartphone to have a 5 inch screen!

  163. Garret November 21, 2008 10:02 pm

    Louisiana man’s cell phone saved his life when a stray bullet that hit him in his chest was deflected by the cell phone he put in the chest pocket of his overalls:

  164. Garret November 21, 2008 10:02 pm

    US Special Forces are getting their first 10 stealth helicopters.

  165. Garret November 21, 2008 10:02 pm

    Free play links pau.

  166. thomas November 21, 2008 10:03 pm

    anyone getting rain on oahu yet? westside, kailua, ?

  167. d1島 November 21, 2008 10:15 pm




    no. (Central Oahu)

  168. jm2375 November 21, 2008 10:15 pm

    thomas – we got one shower around 6 but nothing since in Keolu. Wonder how ST/A-houses doing in Maunawili.

  169. BowsForever November 21, 2008 10:17 pm

    Finally, just one more day until glorious Hawaii football! At home, no less.

    I wonder – is the D supposed to have been better on paper than it was last year? Blaze and Rocky aren’t playing, but that can’t totally account for why Hawaii’s D is 86th in total defense when it was ranked in the 30s last year. I mean, special teams were problematic for a few weeks, and the offense did put strain on the defense at times, but would it have made this much of a difference? I figured veterancy in the defense would’ve translated to more sacks and turnovers than it has. Not to say the D is bad by any means, especially in the wins, but inconsistent? Sure seems that way sometimes.

  170. madeinhawaii November 21, 2008 10:18 pm

    We had a downpour in Kaneohe at around 6:30pm… got caught in it walking back from Times Supermarket. Took all but 15 seconds to be thoroughly soaked. But it only lasted about 30 minutes.

  171. BowsForever November 21, 2008 10:18 pm

    Anyway, luckily the offense has really been stepping it up since NMSU. With that level of play, Idaho and Washington St. should be winnable games.

  172. madeinhawaii November 21, 2008 10:22 pm


    I think it also has something to do with where the opposition got their first downs on turnovers this season. Our D gave up more points because we were turning over the ball in our own end of the field. So naturally we are ranked lower.

    Additionally, I think our Defense significantly played more downs than they did last year. And gave up more yard cummulatively.

  173. d1島 November 21, 2008 10:23 pm

    It feels less humid and judging by how cool my living room feels I think the trades have come back.
    Like I posted earlier, it looks like Oahu dodged a bullet at least for tonight because it looks like the trades are dissipating the junk as it comes ashore from the SW.

  174. Jason November 21, 2008 10:24 pm

    No rain here in Salt Lake. I hope that doesn’t mean it all comes tomorrow … 🙁

  175. thomas November 21, 2008 10:25 pm

    thanks d1, jm2375, mih

    channel 9 says rain in Kailua? winds are blowing funny kine right
    now in town. I hope it blows away.

  176. d1島 November 21, 2008 10:30 pm

    Waveriders make it a two possession game mid-way thru final quarter.

    I think the Govs can hold on. If not, I no like see it anyway.



  177. Garret November 21, 2008 10:39 pm


    Part of it is the increased competition, part of it is the bad positions the offense put the defense for the first half of the season, and part of that is the struggles they have had with injuries and inconsistency. The long plays given up against Utah State were quite shocking, but other teams like Nevada had big plays against the D that didn’t seem to happen last year.

    I wonder if we are now realizing just how much UH missed Jake Patek. Patek wasn’t the fastest player, but he was smart, worked hard, and was consistent. Monteilh, Robinson, and Thomas all played last season, but there are a lot more problems this season it seems…surprising since they all had experience in Mac’s system last season. Mouton wouldn’t be shifted to free safety if there weren’t problems at safety this season.

  178. jm2375 November 21, 2008 10:45 pm

    rain – much ado about nothing? or will it all come tomorrow?

  179. BG November 21, 2008 10:48 pm

    The three tix I had for tomorrow’s game are spoken for. Yea! More fans cheering for the Warriors! A little rain can’t dampen our spirits…just makes the hot soup after the game taste MO BETTAH

  180. Garret November 21, 2008 10:48 pm

    Long Beach Poly came back to win their playoff game today.

    In the first half of their CIF Southern Section Pac-5 Division playoff opener against Bishop Amat, the Jackrabbits played like imposters in green, throwing the ball all around Veterans Stadium as if they had lost their run-run-run playbook on the way to the game.

    In the second half, they showed why they’re the top seed in the playoffs and confident they can win their 18th CIF title. After spotting Amat a 10-0 halftime lead, Poly roared back for a 21-17 win that was as exciting as it was nerve-wracking for the 7,000 or so fans.

    Down, 17-14, with 8:49 left, the Jackrabbits drove 80 yards in 16 plays, using 7:26 of the clock and scoring the go-ahead touchdown on Melvin Richardson’s plunge with 1:23 left, one play after they converted a fourth-and-inch play.

  181. BG November 21, 2008 10:52 pm

    Mei Ling

    Koakane plans to be there early to prep the cabana. I think he said that he’s going to put up a tent over the grill. No worry beef curry!

  182. BowsForever November 21, 2008 10:56 pm

    Agreed that given all of the factors, the D wouldn’t have been in the 30s in total defense this year. But I gotta say, when it really counted, the D of last year did seem a lot more consistent, or clutch at least. Patek and also players like Newberry came up huge when the game was on the line. I distinctly remember less flea-flickers and plays like the ones at NMSU working in ’07, too.

  183. MeiLing November 21, 2008 11:37 pm


    Thanks for the info. See youse dere.


  184. madeinhawaii November 21, 2008 11:51 pm

    Why would we think to pick up another qb? Unless he gray-shirts, cause that would that give him 6 for 4. Or are we losing one? Hope not.

  185. al November 21, 2008 11:51 pm

    ralph….farrington is loaded with juniors.

  186. al November 21, 2008 11:52 pm

    mih….unless he is a big time qb.

  187. madeinhawaii November 21, 2008 11:57 pm


    I suppose looking at how a number of teams this season are hurting because their qb’s went down.. first, second and in some cases third team, as well, it might be a good idea to have three solid QBs with one redshirt in the wings, on call at a moment’s notice. In your heart you want all the QB’s to have their 15 minutes of fame. Sadly, in your head, you know, that’s probably not going to be the way it pans out. But that’s competition and that’s the heartbeat of football.

  188. al November 22, 2008 12:13 am


  189. Ralph November 22, 2008 12:44 am

    QB is a tough position to compete for PT, rarely see a rotation unless you want controversy or someone not doing the job baring injury. You got to feel for peeps like Santos and Austin, walk ons, who work relentlessly but they go in knowing that PT or making the travel squad would be iffy…

  190. Ralph November 22, 2008 12:48 am

    no one has mentioned Tyler lately…..

  191. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER November 22, 2008 12:50 am

    Boy, It’s wet.

    jm2375- Dish is working fine in this weather. One channel went out for about a minute early tonight but it’s been fine – even in this thick cloudy rain!

  192. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER November 22, 2008 12:55 am

    Gee, I wonder how Tyler is feeling!

  193. 1surfahoutahwata November 22, 2008 1:01 am

    Wassssup everyone ! no rain yet at honokai hale but no stars and clouds here and there.tree branches not air calm. Calm before the storm.
    congrats to govs,sabers,mules and rams!

  194. 1surfahoutahwata November 22, 2008 1:03 am

    ooops! UH wahine v ball too.CONGRATS!!

  195. 1surfahoutahwata November 22, 2008 1:04 am

    woooo top 200

  196. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER November 22, 2008 1:11 am


  197. 1surfahoutahwata November 22, 2008 1:12 am

    Earlier yesterday traffic was bad in kapolei.reallll bad.I think people who lives in ewa/ewa beach go tru kapolei and cut thru barbs point.

  198. 1surfahoutahwata November 22, 2008 1:12 am

    Earlier yesterday traffic was bad in kapolei.reallll bad.I think people who lives in ewa/ewa beach go tru kapolei and cut thru barbs point.

  199. 1surfahoutahwata November 22, 2008 1:13 am

    wow 2 time

  200. 1surfahoutahwata November 22, 2008 1:18 am

    I hope no rain too much cause the last time it rain for months,ended up producing one bebe.shheeeez auwe!

  201. 1surfahoutahwata November 22, 2008 1:21 am

    wooh again time warp1

  202. 1surfahoutahwata November 22, 2008 1:21 am


  203. Pomai November 22, 2008 1:27 am

    One more closer to the Hawaii Bowl
    35    –    28    Da Punchbowl Kid
    38    –    28    wafan
    41    –    17    Pauoa Boy
    41    –    10    Pomai
    42    –    14    tommui
    45    –    17    mp
    45    –    9    las vegas
    49    –    14    LizKauai
    62    –    13    d1shima
    63    –    12    homey
    64    –    14    lab rat

  204. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER November 22, 2008 1:27 am

    Ronnie- did you guys get a package from me???

  205. 1surfahoutahwata November 22, 2008 1:28 am

    hey lizkauai,is it still raining ?overhere nothing.

  206. 1surfahoutahwata November 22, 2008 1:32 am

    UH 40 potatoes 21

  207. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER November 22, 2008 1:34 am

    1surfahoutahwata: Steady rain all day. Still steady.

  208. 1surfahoutahwata November 22, 2008 1:36 am

    UH will build up a lead then go on conservative mode.thats one part i dont like but so long they get the win.

  209. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER November 22, 2008 1:36 am

    1surfahoutahwata: was that meant for Pomai? You should say “Pomai” so he can find your post.

    Nitey nite and Sweet Warrior Dreams!

  210. 1surfahoutahwata November 22, 2008 1:36 am

    UH will build up a lead then go on conservative mode.thats one part i dont like but so long they get the win.

  211. 1surfahoutahwata November 22, 2008 1:41 am

    oops !pomai UH40 potatoes21
    Liz good night!
    me too time to sleep. good night pomai

  212. 1surfahoutahwata November 22, 2008 1:47 am

    good night liz! oh pomai can? UH 40 potatoes 21 ty!
    me too i tired good night pomai.

  213. HiFlyer November 22, 2008 1:49 am


    45 – 14 UH

  214. 1surfahoutahwata November 22, 2008 1:49 am

    sheeez keep repeating! good night!

  215. las vegas November 22, 2008 1:50 am

    Cracking an international market is a goal of most growing corporations. It shouldn’t be that hard, yet even the big multi-nationals run into trouble because of language and cultural differences. For example, observe the following examples below.

    The name Coca-Cola in China was first rendered as Ke-kou-ke-la. Unfortunately, the Coke company did not discover until after thousands of signs had been printed that the phrase means “bite the wax tadpole” or “female horse stuffed with wax” depending on the dialect. Coke then researched 40,000 Chinese characters and found a close phonetic equivalent, “ko-kou-ko-le,” which can be loosely translated as “happiness in the mouth.”

    In Taiwan, the translation of the Pepsi slogan “Come alive with the Pepsi Generation” came out as “Pepsi will bring your ancestors back from the dead.”

  216. Pomai November 22, 2008 1:52 am

    One more closer to the Hawaii Bowl
    35    –    28    Da Punchbowl Kid
    38    –    28    wafan
    40    –    21    1surfahoutahwata
    41    –    10    Pomai
    41    –    17    Pauoa Boy
    42    –    13    HiFlyer
    42    –    14    tommui
    45    –    9    las vegas
    45    –    17    mp
    49    –    17    TChahng
    49    –    14    LizKauai
    62    –    13    d1shima
    63    –    12    homey
    64    –    14    lab rat

  217. las vegas November 22, 2008 1:53 am

    They’re still laughing about this at IBM. Apparently the computer giant decided to have some parts manufactured in Japan as a trial project. In the specifications, they set out that they will accept three defective parts per 10,000 .

    When the delivery came in there was an accompanying letter. “We, Japanese people, had a hard time understanding North American business practices. But the three defective parts per 10,000 have been separately manufactured and have been included in the consignment. Hope this pleases you.”

  218. Ralph November 22, 2008 1:58 am

    welcome aboard mr. Sula to the warrior nation…I hope you can run fast and got a second and third gear…not joking….ST didn’t post your 40 times and since the fb is light, your squats total won’t matter unless you run fast…

  219. las vegas November 22, 2008 2:05 am


    CAIRO, Egypt (AP) – Six people drowned yesterday while trying to rescue a chicken that had fallen into a well in southern Egypt. An 18-year-old farmer was the first to descend into the 60-foot well. He drowned, apparently after an undercurrent in the water pulled him down, police said.

    His sister and two brothers, none of whom could swim well, went in one by one to help him, but also drowned. Two elderly farmers then came to help, but they apparently were pulled down by the same undercurrent. The bodies of the six were later pulled out of the well in the village of Nazlat Imara, 240 miles south of Cairo. The chicken was also pulled out. It survived.

  220. las vegas November 22, 2008 2:08 am

    For those unfamiliar, Welfare payments are made in the US to individuals and families with income below a level. The following quotations are taken from actual letters received by the Welfare Department in applications for support of receiving payments.

    I am forwarding my marriage certificate and 6 children. I had seven but one died which was baptized on a half sheet of paper.

    I am writing the welfare department to say that my baby was born two years old. When do I get my money?

    Mrs. Jones has not had any clothes for two years and has been visited regularly by the clergy.

    I cannot get sick pay. I have six children can you tell me why?

    I am glad to report that my husband who is missing is dead.

    This is my eighth child. What are you going to do about it.

    Please find for if my husband is dead. The man I am now living with can’t do anything until he knows.

    I am very much annoyed to find out that you have branded my son illiterate. This is a dirty lie as I was married a week before he was born.

    In answer to your letter, I have given birth to a son weighing 10 lbs. I hope this is satisfactory.

    I am forwarding my marriage certificate and my 3 children one of which is a mistake as you can see.

    My husband got his project cut off about two weeks ago and I haven’t had any relief since.

    Unless I get my husband’s money pretty soon, I will be forced to lead an immortal life.

    You have my changed little boy to a girl, will this make any difference?

    I have no children yet, as my husband is a truck driver and works night and day.

    I want money as quick as I can get it. I have been in bed with the doctor for two weeks and he doesn’t do me any good. If things don’t improve, I will have to send for another doctor.

    In accordance with your instructions, I have given birth to twins in the enclosed envelope.

  221. Committed Road Warrior November 22, 2008 2:11 am



  222. al November 22, 2008 2:47 am

    if a recruit goes by the same name as a tsaiko blog couple, you think they are related? or did they help get him here?

  223. al November 22, 2008 3:00 am

    didn’t i tell you that tsai was going to bust out the recruit news…….

    jack sula the running back

  224. Garret November 22, 2008 5:25 am

    Welcome to the Warriors Jack Sula!

    RBs with a LB mentality fit the needs for UH’s offense. Enrolling in January will give him a head start in learning the offense, whic is always a positive.

  225. wafan November 22, 2008 5:30 am

    A glorious game day Saturday to all!!!

    Hi Garret!

  226. curveball November 22, 2008 5:32 am

    It is pouring here…Kalihi Valley

  227. Garret November 22, 2008 5:49 am

    John Estes warmed of it

    I think that there is a typo in ST’s article and it should be “warned” instead of “warmed”.

  228. Garret November 22, 2008 5:50 am

    Hi wafan! My kids are packing for our trip! Lori and I haven’t packed yet–we have time when they nap today.

  229. Bulla November 22, 2008 6:37 am


  230. djmitcho November 22, 2008 6:43 am

    Good Morning! It’s game day! WooHoo! GO WARRIORS!!!

  231. djmitcho November 22, 2008 6:43 am

    Good Morning! It’s game day! WooHoo! GO WARRIORS!!!

  232. Pauoa Boy November 22, 2008 6:47 am

    Sup Gangeh,

    Football today, no can wait…

    Welcome to the Warrior Nation Jack Sula and Kamalani Alo…now lets go get some lineman Coach…can never have enough!

    Tonight the Warriors are going to make Mashed Potatoes against Idaho. Lets return the favor tonight and intercept them 5 times…

  233. Pauoa Boy November 22, 2008 6:49 am


    Not only get typo but I never know Keoni Steinhoff was only 6’0″ 300 lbs.??? 🙂

  234. wafan November 22, 2008 6:55 am

    Garret . . .

    Have a great time back at home!!! No doubt your Moms will keep you and your family busy and well fed.

    Ahhhhh, nothing better than food cooked by Mom!

  235. wafan November 22, 2008 6:57 am

    So what, exactly, does “Your comment is awaiting moderation” mean?

    Are we being censored? If so, maybe they will finally begin to crack-down on those low-lifes that post here every-so-often.

  236. djmitcho November 22, 2008 7:02 am

    Good Morning wafan, PB, garrett, bulla. It seems all those on da islands still sleeping

  237. djmitcho November 22, 2008 7:09 am

    food cooked by mom is good, but food cooked by dad even better!

  238. Pauoa Boy November 22, 2008 7:11 am


    #218 – That’s the knock on Sula at the moment is his speed. He is more of a Big Back prospect than a traditional Tailback. He has the power and good hands out of the backfield but lacks the top end and second gear in the open field. Regardless any guy who rushes for 1800+ yards
    two years in a row with 20+ TD’s is better than just good in my opinion! My take is he probably has football game speed. Like Funaki who is clocked at 4.7, but in the game it seems he runs a 4.3 sometimes!

  239. Pauoa Boy November 22, 2008 7:18 am

    Howzit djmitcho,

    I would be sleeping right now but the frikkin kids went wake up early and went in the back to play basketball. All I heard was one bouncing basketball going WTF? I look at my clock and said 6:17 a.m. I look out the window and see my 2 boys practicing, but instead of telling them be quiet I figure if they that dedicated for go practice then I’m all for it. Only being 6 and 2 yrs old…I hope this kine dedication will get them somewhere later on in sports… Football season just pau so he ready for Basketball season…so here’s hoping for some future All-American Warrior Football players or Basketball!

  240. brew808 November 22, 2008 7:33 am


    😆 😀 😆 Thank you, thank you – Tony Tuioti!!! 😆 😀 😆


  241. brew808 November 22, 2008 7:44 am

    Noah built an ark. Hawaii built the supa-ferry!!! 😀 😯 😆

    Hey everyone – try to stay dry and enjoy the game! Main thing is everyone be safe and stay healthy! 😀

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  242. duffer November 22, 2008 7:51 am

    Good Morning Tsai-kos!

    Hope Stretch made it back to Oahu last night.

    Waiting for the rain to hit here. Can’t go golfing, so I’m here at WORK………

  243. d1島 November 22, 2008 7:52 am

    Great Morning All!


    Sula sounds like a great prospect.
    Most intriguing line in the article:
    Running back Jake Heun is redshirting this season. But Heun also can play defensive end.

  244. d1島 November 22, 2008 7:55 am

    Still raining in Central Oahu; not as hard as before I started eating my sweet bread french toast and side ordah Spam….
    (note: Spam was purchased before the recent national surge in sales)

  245. wafan November 22, 2008 7:58 am

    “Mashed potato, mashed potato!” (Wiggles)

  246. Pomai November 22, 2008 7:59 am

    One more closer to the Hawaii Bowl
    35    –    28    Da Punchbowl Kid
    38    –    28    wafan
    40    –    21    1surfahoutahwata
    41    –    17    Pauoa Boy
    41    –    10    Pomai
    42    –    13    HiFlyer
    42    –    14    tommui
    45    –    9    las vegas
    45    –    14    HiFlyer
    45    –    17    mp
    49    –    17    TChahng
    49    –    14    LizKauai
    52    –    20    Committed Road Warrior
    62    –    13    d1shima
    63    –    12    homey
    64    –    14    lab rat

  247. Pomai November 22, 2008 8:02 am

    Hi my name is Pomai and I am a homer!


  248. d1島 November 22, 2008 8:03 am

    lab rat,
    btw, to be consistent with the pattern shouldn’t your score for the Spuds be 11?

  249. djmitcho November 22, 2008 8:07 am


    Warriors 48 Spuds 17

  250. wafan November 22, 2008 8:08 am

    d1 . . .

    I never finished my comment on that Spam story.

    As one who enjoys a good Spam musubi, fried Spam, grilled Spam, Spam and eggs, Spam in saimin, etc. I have been doing my share of supporting the Hormel Corporation.

    Was there really ever a slump in their sales — in Hawai’i or with transplants? Good thing Costco stocks Spam!!!

  251. wafan November 22, 2008 8:10 am

    So, who is breaking out their Zodiac for the ride out to the stadium? Or has the rain let up?

  252. koakane™ November 22, 2008 8:11 am

    morning tsaiko kane’s and wahine’s great olden days fball weather … rainy, cold and dark. bring warm clothing or swimming gear to tgate (your preference)

    # BG:
    November 21st, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    Koakane plans to be there early to prep the cabana. I think he said that he’s going to put up a tent over the grill. No worry beef curry!

    clarification I do not have a tent but will help put it up (whomever brings one and comes first) to cover the grill.

  253. d1島 November 22, 2008 8:20 am

    Forget the tent! The grill is under water by now!

  254. d1島 November 22, 2008 8:21 am


    Way to represent! 😆

  255. koakane™ November 22, 2008 8:39 am

    d1 seafood takes on a new meaning today bwhaaaaaaaaa

    morning to you and da mrs.

  256. d1島 November 22, 2008 8:41 am

    NEW POST->->->->->

  257. Kekoa November 22, 2008 8:50 am

    Wafan ~ Not only was my morning shattered by the dawn’s ugly weather picture, but then there was this visual of you wiggling to the ‘Mashed Potatoes!’. Bwahahaha!

    Happy potato head day Stretch…wherever you are!

  258. cavewarrior November 23, 2008 10:55 am

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  259. cavewarrior November 23, 2008 10:58 am

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    test 9

  264. cavewarrior November 23, 2008 11:44 am

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