The Manoa sprint

Maybe it was because change appeared to be inevitable, but UH is poised to challenge the speed record for hiring a new head coach for football.

A night after the season ended, head coach Greg McMackin reached a retirement agreement with the school. Soon after the news conference announcing the departure on Monday, the job opening was posted on the UH Web site, with a waiver for a speedy process approved. A search advisory committee was announced yesterday. The committee will meet after 4:30 p.m. Monday (officially the end of that business day), and begin sifting through the applications. While applications are still welcomed after that, a group of finalists could be ready for interviews shortly after.

With technology providing up-to-the-second debates, impatience is fostered. In this situation, with the parameters of the state’s hiring rules, UH has wasted no time in making the hiring a priority.

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With so many coaching vacancies, there are many options for job-seekers. Case in point: Former Miami head coach Randy Shannon decided not to apply for the UH job to focus on the Fresno State opening.


  1. d1shima December 8, 2011 7:20 am


  2. Chee! December 8, 2011 7:24 am

    Speed and due diligence!

  3. d1shima December 8, 2011 7:27 am

    So it’s a Sellers’ Market in CoachMart?

  4. Woozuuu December 8, 2011 7:27 am

    Please not Miano

  5. Stephen Tsai December 8, 2011 7:29 am


    Thanks for the update on Phil Handy. Always one of my favorite. And I wish we could find a one-sleeved shirt.

  6. koakane December 8, 2011 7:34 am


    kope just perking

  7. papajoe2 December 8, 2011 7:34 am


  8. pig December 8, 2011 7:36 am

    I like miano. he’s articulate, a nice guy, has a nice resume and is a long time UH homer. that being said, I don’t think he should be considered for the job because too many former UH players I know have told me that his ‘coaching’ style is abrasive and led to favoritism, as has been mentioned in many previous comments in this blog. naturally, I’m not mentioning names of my sources but if that many of them have told me that, it can’t be too far from the truth. I also think that as an associate head coach, he’s been part of the system and less likely to make meaningful changes that are required. The argument of continuity is in his favor, but I don’t see the bottom line improving if he takes over.

  9. kev-1 December 8, 2011 7:39 am

    Not feeling Glanville at all.

  10. kev-1 December 8, 2011 7:40 am

    Monday at 4:30???? Do it today! TODAY I SAY!

    I know . . . cut off date. Just super impatient.

  11. d1shima December 8, 2011 7:40 am

    Hey #9! I’m sure the feeling is mutual! 😆

  12. koakane December 8, 2011 7:42 am

    impressed with the urgency UH managing it’s search for a new coach. either same old or new weigh all the options and come up with the best possibility that will take the program to the next level.

    commitment to excellence first and foremost

  13. A-joe December 8, 2011 7:42 am

    I’m impressed with the prospects. It’s neat to see those with ties to the islands have developed wicked credentials abroad.

    It seems this time around allot more applicants have some sort of ties to the islands. Not much, if at all, “out of the blue” prospects. Perhaps the amount of vacancies have made prospects more selective. True. But it leaves me to wonder: is there an unspoken, understood, or assumed label amongst the coaching community that Hawaii requires some form of tie to the islands? Do we project an image or culture that discourages prospects from considering to apply? Is there a way encourage and foster a broader spectrum of applicants?


    It’s great to see the assistant coaches demonstrate solidarity and commitment to the program. But are the coaches actively recruiting prospects? Or conducting PR campaigns in the interim?

  14. Stephen Tsai December 8, 2011 7:42 am

    I imagine if you play, the coach is fair. If you don’t, he has favorites.

    There probably are a lot of factors that go into a decision. Only the coaches, players and the videos of practices know the truth.

  15. kev-1 December 8, 2011 7:42 am

    Pig . . . I sure would like to hear players feedback, especially if the coach considered is coming from within. Not just Miano, any inside coach. I wanna know what they have to say. Although, players comments are often driven by emotion. Heck, if we relied on the players to choose the coach, we may still have Mack.

  16. kev-1 December 8, 2011 7:44 am

    ST 14 . . . true dat. Example: the guy who commented yesterday about not hiring Rolo becuase he got kicked of the team for not going into the game when told to (allegedly).

  17. ai-eee-soos December 8, 2011 7:44 am

    Those who really want the job, better have their resume in, now.

  18. Koa Tree December 8, 2011 7:45 am

    I am not sure why we need a search committee to select a coach. Isn’t that Jim Donovan’s job as the A.D. Given a couple of the names on the list, it also seems to me that this formation of the search committee may end up just politicizing the process. In addition, what do bank executives, lawyers, and some of the others on the list know about selecting a football coach?

  19. koakane December 8, 2011 7:45 am

    trusting UH fball program is not going to be thrown under the bus

  20. Stephen Tsai December 8, 2011 7:46 am

    State’s hiring rules are fair The 10-working-day period gives everyone an opportunity to apply. The waiver to five working days is needed for this situation. But that, too, is a fair amount of time.

  21. d1shima December 8, 2011 7:48 am

    Leaning more and more to a clean sweep for the new regime

  22. Stephen Tsai December 8, 2011 7:50 am

    It’s not a hiring committee.

    Anybody is free to apply.

    I don’t think people should be begged to apply because it could only lead to unhappiness if that person doesn’t get hired.

  23. PolyMom December 8, 2011 7:56 am

    Could someone start building the ark? Today day 31 on the big island with heavy rains. Come get us!

  24. Stephen Tsai December 8, 2011 7:57 am

    The job isn’t for everyone. First, there’s the salary, which hasn’t really been determined yet, but it surely won’t be anywhere near $1.1 million.

    If a coach has a family, there’s relocating at least 2,500 miles away, plus changing schools for the kids.

    There has to be some tie to Hawaii, because local recruiting needs to be a priority.

    There’s a matter of the staff. For the pay, how will the staff be created?

    Gib Arnold, for instance, was a good pickup. But there’s no way he’s considering UH if he hadn’t just been let go by USC.

  25. Stephen Tsai December 8, 2011 7:59 am


    It’s nearing men’s volleyball season. There was a two-year period where it rained hard every night of a home men’s volleyball match.

  26. rb December 8, 2011 8:00 am

    OMG Norm Chow is interested!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Please,Please the powers that be DO NOT make the

    same mistake twice HIRE NORM CHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ROLO would gain so much by working with him.


  27. primo123 December 8, 2011 8:02 am

    how come no NFL names popping up?…..

  28. primo123 December 8, 2011 8:04 am

    Gib Arnold a good find……but…..if successful…..doubt if he stays….

  29. papajoe2 December 8, 2011 8:04 am

    I don’t think that we have the personel on the team to handle the Paul Johson type of offense. Our lineman is trained to pass block and our qbs are mostly passers, not option type. I think keeping Rolo as an OC, with an extensive playbook may be a good option. What I mean by that is miss direction plays, play option, an occasional tight end, and occasional 2 running backs, deeping the defense off balance. Some coaches that cannot adjust (sarcasm to our coaches) going get romped.

  30. papajoe2 December 8, 2011 8:07 am

    #30 oops, deeping = keeping

  31. papajoe2 December 8, 2011 8:08 am

    I like the Banker-Cav connection if its true.

  32. tommui December 8, 2011 8:09 am


    I’m not mentioning names of my sources…

    Wonder if the person(s) were the ones writing about point shaving …

    With information like this, we should “consider the source”. Of course if we do not know the source, we can look at it as some sort of character assassination.

  33. tommui December 8, 2011 8:11 am

    ST: Just curious but do the coaches are part of the in the State pension plan?

  34. tommui December 8, 2011 8:15 am

    Re # 29

    Gib Arnold a good find……but…..if successful…..doubt if he stays….

    Very true … on the other hand, if he is not successful, he would be let go.

  35. PolyMom December 8, 2011 8:18 am

    Really Uncle Norm is interested? Good choice. I would back that. Where is the list since I have not gone to the store to get a paper yet.

    At Stephen Tsai do they have home delivery on the Big Island? Called a couple of years ago and they said NO. Please let me know?

  36. Pomai December 8, 2011 8:18 am

    #13 – A-joe

    But it leaves me to wonder: is there an unspoken, understood, or assumed label amongst the coaching community that Hawaii requires some form of tie to the islands? Do we project an image or culture that discourages prospects from considering to apply? Is there a way encourage and foster a broader spectrum of applicants?

    unfortunately the answer is yes.

  37. Old Diver December 8, 2011 8:19 am

    Like ST said playing favorites cuts both ways. June Jones was accused of playing favorites by Mike Washington. Of course Bess and Grice-Mullen were ahead of him. Bottom line is in college ball the head coach and coordinators have the last word in who plays. They are playing to win and will play the best players.

  38. LadyD December 8, 2011 8:21 am

    kev-1…leave the players alone…you complain when they comment and now you want their ‘feedback’…they are humans with emotions. They respected him, so what. Leave them alone.

  39. duffer December 8, 2011 8:23 am

    The sun rose today! 🙂

  40. A-House December 8, 2011 8:24 am


    missed you at our lunch at Happy Day restaurant to discuss the final episode of Baek Dong Su.

  41. Pomai December 8, 2011 8:25 am

    Carried over from yesterdays bolg:

    Schembechler, Hayes, Bryant, Noll, Halas, Lombardi, Cowher, Brown, these are some of the greatest coaches of all time, can you see a common thread in these guys? That’s what I want in the new HC of the Warriors.

  42. DoubleB December 8, 2011 8:27 am

    #39 well said.

  43. Da Punchbowl Kid December 8, 2011 8:33 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂

    We have a good advisory comittee, an intirguing list of candidates, and an expedited hiring process. So far so good.

    Thanks for your speedy and diligent coverage of things Mr. Tsai. Its good to be kept up to the minute in all this. Feel free to post here if you get any new names for the candidates’ list. We likey.

  44. A.M. December 8, 2011 8:33 am

    Wondering if the “selection” committee (i.e., the one after the “screening” committee) will include a player(s) representing the team.

  45. al December 8, 2011 8:34 am

    pomai…they all wore glasses.

  46. Wes'side Warrior December 8, 2011 8:35 am

    Morning/afternoon everyone!

    One day closer to knowing…

    Hope you all are having a great day!

  47. al December 8, 2011 8:35 am

    i would have liked happy day dim sum, too.

  48. Pomai December 8, 2011 8:36 am

    LadyD there is nothing wrong with the players speaking out, the problem lies with the people who read it. I myself like Mr. Graves comments and respect his point of view.

  49. Da Punchbowl Kid December 8, 2011 8:37 am

    “intriguing” that should say.

  50. Koa Tree December 8, 2011 8:37 am

    # 26. Norm Chow would be a good selection and I think he might fit all of the conditions in hiring a coach that ST discussed above. I would see him giving Cal Lee a much more significant role than as DE coach. I am also making a pitch for Chris Naeole as Offensive Line coach. As a Kahuku alum, former All-American with a college degree, number 10 pick in the first round of the NFL draft, a 12 year playing career in the NFL, and an overall good guy, Chris is the type of coach that could recruit Kahuku kids and other talented local recruits (the kids and their families would connect with him) and develop them into potential NFL linemen. That’s the kind of guy we need on the staff. I hope that the next head coach will recognize having someone like Chris on the staff.

  51. PolyMom December 8, 2011 8:38 am

    I agree with you Pomai.

  52. koakane December 8, 2011 8:39 am

    Ahouse tfti or at least the notice. Now at least we can talk about the series bwhaaaaaa

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    Hey gang, just a reminder about our annual Tsai-koChristmas get-together! Come if you can make it!


    Date:      Saturday, December 10, 2011

    Time:      5:30pm HST

    Location: Murphy’s Bar & Grill (ph: 531-0422) (Downtown)

    Address: 2 Merchant Street, Honolulu, HI 96813

    Parking:  Either 1) free along street in front of establishment doors,  

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  54. kalamaku December 8, 2011 8:43 am

    Last time this position opened up, Norm was NOT interested, so how can we make the same mistake twice if we never made, what some would call a mistake, the never happened first time?

    I have been a season ticket holder for years, sat in the empty stadium during Von’s tenure, sat in the empty stadium this year. The difficulties of recruiting here, our distance, the fact that parents from the mainland wont see their kids play, the budget, we all know the challenges for whomever coaches here. People are tossing names like NFL guys, and Norm, and bla bla bla, the fact is that any of these guys would be taking a huge pay cut and for what? MAYBE 20,000 loyal fans and a bunch of cry babies who might show up if it is not raining? People always cry about why we are not a “varsity” program. Its starts with the butts in the seats. Rain or shine, win or loose, we need to be there. We cant wait for our boys to be good to attend, we need attend so we can build a program that will be good.

    As for a coach, we need someone who has energy, loves Hawaii, can recruit here and can put a staff together with the same energy and with recruiting ties to the mainland, who will work for 700k. Its a tough fill, I think Miano is the guy. Sure guys who dont start will cry favorites, but thats life on a team. Just my two cents.

  55. PolyMom December 8, 2011 8:45 am

    Let me say this, Norm Chow is an incredible public speaker. I hosted a Punahou Living Treasures lecture in Mnahattan Beach in July of 2010. He was up all night as his son and wife had a baby. The program sold out. Not only did he show up after being up all night long. He gave a great lecture then stayed for two extra hours to sign autographs and take pictures. I just LOVE him!

    And let me say this he is a Coach that players respect. Name recognition is there. He is up lifting and is a man of G-d. That being said…he would make a GREAT Head Coach for Hawaii. And best yet, he knows all the USC moves.

    And he really cares about his players. Every Sunday at UCLA he would buy big trays of local kine food to take to watch video with the boys. It is his time. I would get my check book out for Uncle Norm!!!!

  56. RedZone December 8, 2011 8:49 am

    There you go. It starts with the fan base. As for the coach I will leave it up to the AD. If he fails then bye bye.

  57. kev-1 December 8, 2011 8:49 am

    #39 how was I complaining about his comment? I didn’t tell him not to. I am just giving my opinion based on what he said. I could be way off, but who are you to tell me what to say? I sure would like to hear what the players have to say. I was only restating what he posted.

  58. Wes'side Warrior December 8, 2011 8:49 am

    #13… A-Joe…

    Mainland coaches are asking, “If I become the new coach of Howaeeee, will I have to learn that there dad-gum dance thingy that y’all do out there? The ‘hocker’, or whatever it is y’all call it these days?”

  59. mcb December 8, 2011 8:50 am

    #49. With all due respect, I disagree. Team chemistry and not throwing people under the bus is one of the most important aspects of a team. What if I mentioned in our company newsletter that I think a coworker is incompetent? Should I be admired for my honesty? Hardly. I probably damaged some of the productivity of our work as a team because now we have chemistry and feelings that we have to deal with – the most problematic being distrust. Being honest is easy! Knowing when to be honest is the art that we should seek to perfect.

  60. hawaiian December 8, 2011 8:50 am

    Miano is at the right place at the right time. The “other” candidates listed in today’s paper don’t move me at all. All these guys have “some” tie with UH or Hawaii but come on…many years ago! You’re looking at 20-30 years ago! How is that gonna relate to TODAY’s players? I don’t want to see the triple option and I don’t want to see a guy who jumps to different jobs every 2-3 years. Not to mention, I don’t want to see a guy who’s over 50 years old (sorry for feeling this way).

    For those of you who don’t want Miano because “he coached the db’s and they didn’t do this or didn’t do that”, remember, he was not the defensive coordinator calling the plays…with what he had, they were in the right place MOST of the times but just didn’t make plays. He’s a great teacher of the technical aspects of being a defensive back! He’s got that “high energy” that everyone talks about, he speaks well, he can recruit, he played in the NFL for 11 years, he’s organized, he’s young (in his 40″s) and he’s passionate about UH! Gotta love him!

  61. Kevin December 8, 2011 8:51 am


    So if someone else on the team said the SAME thing Graves said, you’d still like it?

    The only reason I ask is because the message is more important than WHO says it. For some, one person, in their eyes, can do no wrong or speak no evil regardless of what they say (to a degree).

    I mean if people have a personal favorite and he says, “oh the head coach was a bigot”, people that favor the person might be more inclined to believe that player as opposed to another player saying the same thing where his statement might be passed off as false right away.

  62. kev-1 December 8, 2011 8:52 am

    Nothing wrong with what any player has to say. People have good and bad to say, you take both for what it is worth. In the so called players post yesterday, he cited his reason for not wanting Rolo. I only questioned his reasoning. Leave the players alone? You act like I am calling them out or something.

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  64. bigislandkurt December 8, 2011 8:57 am

    Remember, the list in today’s piece is simply a list ST put together for that article. I’m sure there are a few more interesting names of applicants that did not show up in that article.


  65. kalamaku December 8, 2011 8:57 am

    I dont blame Graves for what he said, or saying it. He was bushwhacked, that guy hid the recorder and played him. His comments on the record were all respectful and company line. What he said on the side, we all have opinions we keep to our selves, he just didn’t know it wasn’t a private conversation. At least thats how I understand the story, I could be wrong.

  66. NaKoaMike December 8, 2011 8:57 am

    The Na Koa Football Club has initiated efforts to collect records of all football players since the beginning of the program in 1909. According to the UH Athletic Department, records of players from 1909 until 1967 were not retained and many players who might be eligible to receive a letter for playing football have not been recognized. Na Koa would like to remedy this for the football program.

  67. bigislandkurt December 8, 2011 8:59 am

    Make it a condition that whoever the new coach is, they need to retain Tony Tuioti. 🙂


  68. Kevin December 8, 2011 9:00 am

    With the way college sports is viewed and covered TODAY, people should be expecting student-athletes to be speaking more openly in public forums. It’s no longer reserved for the over-paid primadonna “professional” athletes anymore.

    They should however, eventually be aware and prepared to accept all types or support or criticism for what they say though.

    There is a learning curve that comes with that new found attention, but over time the student-athlete will eventually come to take it as it comes.

  69. Old Diver December 8, 2011 9:02 am

    When Dick Tomey left the fans and the athletic administration were ready for something other than the right to punt offense. Because Bob Wagner was already here his character and discipline were known commodities to AD Stan Sheriff, one of the first things Sheriff asked Wagner was what kind of offense he was going to run. When Wagner answered the at the time high powered spread option offense he got the job. I wonder what answer JD wants to hear when he ask’s that same question.

  70. MattyBoy December 8, 2011 9:03 am

    I noticed a lot of Mianos friends and family are posting.

  71. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 9:05 am

    Mainland coaches are asking themselves… can I remember and pronounce all those long Hawaiian and foreign sounding names of all the players in one or two seasons so as not to be criticized by the fans.

  72. rb December 8, 2011 9:05 am

    I like MIANO but You gotta go with CHOW

    Just imagine we are at USC,its the fourth QTR

    5mins left in game and we have the ball and the

    led and we are in the pro set and run the ball

    down hill, between the tackles and move the chains

    and kiffins on the sidelines and we are making first

    downs and the clock is moving and they cant stop

    us and our o-line is just punishing them!!!!!

  73. Musashi December 8, 2011 9:07 am

    Re: #55 . . . I think what was being referred to was that NC applied for the position but was not hired and Fred von Appen was instead. All kinds of stories about how that went down . . .

  74. UHfan808 December 8, 2011 9:07 am

    If at first you don’t succeed…lol

    Good Thursday morning, Tsai-kos!

    Sorry about Coach Mack leaving the program. Thinking about it, he really has been with us for quite a long time. Reviewing just from the beginning of his hire to head coach when we fans got to know him more, it was always apparent to me that he is a good person with the best of intentions. Over our past recent seasons together with coach, we have learned even more about our wants and needs for our players and our program and once again we find ourselves at the fork in the road with the opportunity for positive change. Mahalo Coach Mack, for coming to our rescue in our time of need and now for allowing us this opportunity to push forward to improve our program.

  75. papajoe2 December 8, 2011 9:09 am

    #71 MattyBoy, Miano and his friends have to campaign. I see nothing wrong with them posting here. We, the bloggers, do not hire the coaches. FYI, no, I am not a Miano backer, I’m just interested in seeing explainations of what happened this last season. Seems like the head coach and assistants (not all, but a few) were not on the same page.

  76. A.M. December 8, 2011 9:12 am

    I don’t understand all the clamor about what Graves said. Take it for what’s it worth – 1 young man’s opinion out of a 100+ young men who were on the team. Everyone has their own slant on things – just read all the varying opinions on this blog.

    I do see one common thread though – many, many players (past & present) (including Graves) love Coach Mac & that to me is something really special & should be respected.

  77. papajoe2 December 8, 2011 9:13 am

    I hope whoever UH hires, they will have the academic success that coach Mac had with his student athletes. In trying to get the best coach to win more games, the academic portion should not be forgotten.

  78. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 9:16 am

    I still think what Graves said was that of a young man trying to wrap his mind around what just happened and looking for some rhyme or reason to justify it to himself, especially since he liked Mack, too. He didn’t say anything we didn’t know unless you blow it out of proportion.

  79. kev-1 December 8, 2011 9:18 am

    You guys really think Chow would come for what UH is prepared to offer financially? Although we don’t know what exactly that is, we know it will be less.

    I just don’t see Chow as hot of a commodity as he was before. Could be wrong though. Then again he got stuck with Neuheisel (sp?) for a while.

  80. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 9:18 am


    Sort of like the assistants weren’t buying into what the Head Coach is asking them to do? We all know what happens when the players don’t buy into what the coaches ask them to do… probably worse when it gets that high up and would explain a lot.

    Hope that wasn’t the case though.

  81. d1shima December 8, 2011 9:19 am

    Prayers to Blacksburg.

    More shots reported…

  82. Slugger December 8, 2011 9:28 am

    Good morning, gang!

    Prayers for the people at Virginia Tech.

    Good luck to the search & hiring committee in making a fast, well-informed hire for HC.

    Need more kope…latahs

  83. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 8, 2011 9:31 am

    Norm Chow is interested?

    That is a HUGE shock to me. Maybe the 3985730583th time is the charm?

  84. FattyMcButterpants December 8, 2011 9:33 am

    Serious question. What exactly has Norm Chow done since leaving USC that warrants a job as head coach?

  85. LizKauai (Old School) December 8, 2011 9:33 am

    God Bless… Va Tech…

  86. LizKauai (Old School) December 8, 2011 9:34 am

    Lokahi and Aloha.


  87. 808Fringe December 8, 2011 9:35 am

    #85 – Good question. We know what he did at BYU but that was centuries ago. Let’s see if any of the statisticians on this blog can pull up some numbers. I’d love to see it.

  88. (Jesse) James December 8, 2011 9:35 am

    Good morning Tsaikos…Hope all is well. Been very, very busy so not a lot of time to do much of anything.

    Intriguing list of potential candidates….makes one think of the possibilities…

  89. LadyD December 8, 2011 9:36 am

    Kev-1 and Pomai…I was writing in response to kev-1 statement on Mon.


    December 5th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    If a football player can’t take random fan bantor from a blog, they aren’t tough enough to play the game.”

    This is what I was responding to.

  90. A.M. December 8, 2011 9:39 am

    If Miano’s family/friends are posting/reading, I’d suggest that they relay to Rich that the public self-proclaimation of his Goodness for the HC job be saved for his interview where it really matters.

    Public campaigning (of which few, if any, of other HC candidates are doing) may actually hurt than enhance his chances – especially when the “search advisory committee” is comprised of successful, but humble individuals who value doers vice talkers, and local values.

  91. (Jesse) James December 8, 2011 9:40 am

    #48 al…and gramps….Wait??? There was a lunch at Happy Day??? Aiyaaaahhh….I would have loved to eat chicken feet after little birdie talked….LMAO

  92. Dre December 8, 2011 9:41 am

    Anyone expecting Jerry Glanville to pop up for this job?

    He’s a link to the ’07 program under JJ…. and would not need to overhaul the entire offensive system. Rolovich is a bright OC, would prefer that he stayed.

    I don’t believe any big names will be applying for this job… but that’s just my opinion.

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  94. al_kiQaida December 8, 2011 9:42 am

    MIH@#79 I feel for Graves and for the flack he got. He’s just a kid, an emotional twenty something with the media sticking microphones into his face pumping him for soundbites. Hopefully he learned a lesson in leadership and media management (keeping your mouth shut even though you want to scream from the rooftops).

  95. RedZone December 8, 2011 9:43 am

    I haven’t had chicken feet since my childhood days. Pretty good but not much meat.

  96. papajoe2 December 8, 2011 9:43 am

    I think what Graves said was what his preception of what was going on about the lack of respect that coach Mac received. People are forgetting and some of the media are not reporting that Dvaid Graves actually praised coach Mac.

  97. UHfan808 December 8, 2011 9:45 am

    With that said above RE opportunity for positive change

    If you’ve posted the name(s) of a coach(es), have considered a particular coach(es), or even if you’re just not sure which one would fit —

    Question — Exactly what/which characteristics in that person(s) do you find appealing as good fit for our players and program, or, what characteristics would you like our coach to have?

    Knowing exactly what characteristics we want/need/like/admire in a coach can help us better understand the kind of coach we need/want for our program, team, and players here at the University of Hawaii and for our island state.

    What say you? 😉

  98. bigislandkurt December 8, 2011 9:46 am

    Love these winter days in Hilo. Gentle, cold, misty rain.


  99. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 8, 2011 9:46 am


    I agree with you on Norm being an excellent public speaker. He was the keynote speaker at MPI’s athletic gala a few years ago.

    I know some people have major reservations on him. Personally, I don’t know if he would be good or not. I am just kinda surprised (in a good way) that he applied.

    I also think that with candidates like Chow and Norwood, they would be very much open/willing to hang on to some of our assistants like Miano and Tuioti.

  100. Garret December 8, 2011 9:46 am

    It sounds like Dino Babers is going to be announced as the head coach of Eastern Illinois during a press conference scheduled for tomorrow morning.

  101. turfwar December 8, 2011 9:47 am

    #56 Thanks Polymom. Count me in as a Chow supporter.

  102. BigHiloFan2 December 8, 2011 9:47 am

    Good morning Tsaikos everywhere

    The Committee on the Committee forthe Comittee on Advisory Committee.

    Come on you guys. Stop passing the buck.

    Make the call. 😀

    have a great day gangeez.

  103. Garret December 8, 2011 9:48 am

    This post will get A-House’s blood pressure up, but I had to do it anyway.

    Quote from Karl Benson’s press conference yesterday when announcing that the WAC will be taking all of BSU’s non-football teams:

    “I’m a Boise St alum and I have a personal investment in Boise St, besides my professional investment”

  104. Garret December 8, 2011 9:50 am

    The Big East expansion has provided an excellent example of how closely the MWC and CUSA are working together with their alliance…UTEP may go from CUSA to the MWC. So, UTEP may be a conference member with UH again and UH will be paying for UTEP to come to Aloha Stadium.

    “The real value of Conference USA, the reason we went when the WAC was being dismantled, is we wanted to stick with Houston, Rice, SMU, people we had connections with,” Stull said.

    “With two of those teams now departing, geographically it makes more sense at this point to be more aligned with the West side, the original WAC.”

    If UTEP was moved to a West division of the merged conference, it would be in with UNLV, Wyoming, New Mexico, Color ado State, Air Force, Nevada and Fresno State in all sports, with Hawaii in football only.

  105. alnbama December 8, 2011 9:51 am

    Just wondering, the last time we were looking for a Hc, we had interested from Kevin Gilbride. He’s the Oc for the NY Giants. It’s rumored he maybe going to UConn, just wondering if he’s still interested?

  106. AlaWai December 8, 2011 9:52 am

    HC must be a great game manager. The clock, the down, the location, personnel, the opponent, the whole playbook, etc. Factor these things and we would have a few more wins this year. The commitee needs to watch film to evaluate each candidates game management. If its an Assistant watch how he interacts with the HC. Check the number of Delay of Game penalties incurred. Check how timeouts were used or not used. Check number of wins within the last 2 minutes. Speaking ability is OK but actions tell the story.

  107. bigislandkurt December 8, 2011 9:53 am

    Couple thoughts — If Chow is hired, it would be safe to assume that it is aloha oe to the current staff right?

    Second, could Rich Miano’s once republican political ties work against him as he now goes up for the state’s highest paid position? Don’t shoot the messenger. I’m just sayin…:)


  108. Garret December 8, 2011 9:53 am

    Karl Benson has publicly revealed that he invited UH, Nevada, and Fresno State to stay in the WAC, but Nevada has already publicly said no to the offer. A competent conference commissioner would know that you never publicly mention an offer or interest in a school unless you know they want to join your conference…

    “The Mountain West is clearly not the conference they were expecting to join,” Benson said. “All I did was notify them that if and when the landscape changed, if they wanted to reconsider we would welcome them back.”

    Nevada athletic director Cary Groth said she believes the Mountain West is still the better fit.

    “Karl came down the day of the Hawaii game and asked the president (Marc Johnson) and me to reconsider,” Groth said, referring to the Nov. 12 game at Mackay Stadium. “And our answer was no, and it’s no still. We made a commitment to the Mountain West. Yes, it’s a different Mountain West, but I have complete faith in what (commissioner) Craig Thompson is trying to do to stabilize the conference. There are a lot of good schools. Plus, I think Nevada and UNLV belong in the same conference.”

  109. Kamaaina94547 December 8, 2011 9:54 am

    I’m no where qualified to make the selection…but, Norm Chow may be what we need to keep local talent here and take us to the “next level”?

  110. primo123 December 8, 2011 9:55 am


    Isnt there a SEARCH COMMITTEE…..and then a SELECTION COMMITTEE….??

    jus wonderin…

  111. doris December 8, 2011 9:55 am

    #101 Garrett, I just spoke to Dino. I was kinda hoping he’d throw his hat in the ring at UH, I really like him as a person and a coach. Just a great guy all around with a good family. Born in Hawaii, played at UH and loves the islands. But, this was definite for him and a good stepping stone.

  112. primo123 December 8, 2011 9:56 am

    What does Norm Chow KNOW about LOCAL talent? He doesn’t even live here.

  113. primo123 December 8, 2011 9:56 am

    I DON’T even think our LOCAL TALENT KNOWS who NORM CHOW IS….

  114. Garret December 8, 2011 9:57 am

    Interesting notes about how UNLV wants no part of the MWC/CUSA alliance and is trying to find another conference. There have been rumors that UNLV might replace Air Force in the Big East’s Western Division, but I don’t think they are credible since UNLV’s football team is horrible. If UNLV wants to join a conference for all sports, then their only other option is the WAC. If UNLV wants the WAC, would that change UH’s mind on the 2 conferences?

    Just got off the phone with UNLV AD Jim Livengood. Interesting comments about where UNLV stands. Here’s some highlights …

    If UNLV is exploring options outside of MWC: “Absolutely. I can’t get into great detail for obvious reasons, but absolutely.”

    That doesn’t mean that they are only wanting to get out of the MWC. Just means they’re exploring alternatives to MWC/C-USA, too

    Livengood said the goal right now is “making Rebel football relevant. I believe we’re on track for that.”

    Finally, Livengood said he will not be looking to split up UNLV football from the rest of his programs. Wants to keep everything together.

  115. Pomai December 8, 2011 9:58 am

    #60 mcb – see what I mean, no where did I read into it that Mr. Graves was throwing anyone under the bus, and no where did I see him say anyone was incompetent. What I got out of it was that Mr. Graves thought that Mack needed to take a more active role in the teaching of football and cut his speechs down because they were to long, now that is not throwing someone under the bus.

    #62 – Kevin – What I would like about it is that the student-athlete felt good enough about the people around him would let him express his thoughts without condemning him. It really doesn’t matter if I agree or not with what Mr.Graves said he should be able to say it.

  116. Kevin December 8, 2011 9:58 am

    RE: Benson’s statement with BSU non-football sports and the WAC.

    It shouldn’t get anyone’s BP up…

    It’s stating the OBVIOUS we’ve felt for years anyway.

  117. Garret December 8, 2011 9:59 am

    #101 Garrett, I just spoke to Dino. I was kinda hoping he’d throw his hat in the ring at UH, I really like him as a person and a coach. Just a great guy all around with a good family. Born in Hawaii, played at UH and loves the islands. But, this was definite for him and a good stepping stone.


    I think that taking that head coaching job is an important career step for Dino and I wish him well. He can prove himself at Eastern Illinois, do a great job of upgrading their program, then move on to the next big opportunity for him.

  118. primo123 December 8, 2011 10:00 am

    I have NO PROBLEM with what DAVID GRAVES SAID…..sounds like a college player giving HIS OPINION about his head coach.


  119. Bryson December 8, 2011 10:02 am

    Chow did what he did at USC because of the talent,he has not been able to duplicate the success at UCLA or at Utah…How good will his pro style offense be at Hawaii?

  120. mcb December 8, 2011 10:03 am

    Pomai – the incompetent comment was an analogy and did not directly apply to this situation. I definitely read that Graves threw Mack under the bus – Graves thought a coaching change was needed and the losing season wasn’t the assistant’s fault. The best evidence is that Graves felt terrible about it. Why would he feel terrible if he didn’t do anything wrong?

  121. Garret December 8, 2011 10:03 am

    I would actually like it if UNLV could somehow replace Air Force in the Big East. I know it won’t happen since their football team is really bad now, but here are my reasons:

    1. UH will scheduled UNLV for nonconference games instead of conference games. The difference is that UH will *not* pay a travel subsidy for UNLV if it is a nonconference game.

    2. UNLV might put their nonconference sports in the Big West. The Big West wants to split into 2 divisions and UNLV is natural for a Southern Division of the Big West–it is a shorter drive to Vegas than to Northern California for the Big West teams in the South. UH would benefit greatly from UNLV being in the Big West, and UNLV, SDSU, and Long Beach would make for a powerful division of the Big West in basketball.

  122. Warriors1978 December 8, 2011 10:04 am

    #77 If you love Coach Mac you don’t talk stink about him.

  123. FattyMcButterpants December 8, 2011 10:04 am

    Norm Chow’s offenses post USC per ESPN stats

    2005 Titans ranked 17 of 32 in total offense. 9 of 32 passing offense

    2006 Titans ranked 27 of 32 in total offense. 30 of 32 in passing offense

    2007 Titans ranked 21 of 32 in total offense. 27 of 32 in passing offense

    2008 UCLA ranked 111 of 120 in total offense. 80 of 120 in passing offense

    2009 UCLA ranked 81 of 120 in total offense. 48 of 120 in passing offense

    2010 UCLA ranked 103 of 120 in total offense. 116 of 120 in passing offense

    2011 Utah ranked 110 of 120 in total offense. 95 of 120 in passing offense

  124. Pomai December 8, 2011 10:05 am

    #98 – UHfan808

    See #42

    at least for me

  125. Kevin December 8, 2011 10:06 am

    Which came first? The chicken or the egg?


    First, paper work and a search process to award the contract to the right company that will create the container the egg is packaged in and to see which company will provide the feed for the chicken.

    But the bids have to be sent out first.

  126. bigislandkurt December 8, 2011 10:06 am

    To all the Legal and legal wannabe folks out there, does UH now have an argument for not paying the travel subsidies? After all, the MWC they are now going to enter is far different from the one that was in tact when they signed the contract. All this is taking place even before we have yet to strap up for one real game! I’m sure the conference did have some items in the contract that covered such unforeseen changes to the membership. It appears that the value of the once-proud MWC has dwindled further since the latest Boise and SDSU departure. Air Force bound to bolt in a couple of years too.

    With all that said, is UH now stuck with a travel bill to a conference that is not what it recently was. Is there any room for renegotiation or is UH left footing the bill?


  127. kev-1 December 8, 2011 10:07 am

    #90 . . . LadyD, that comment that you were referring to was not in response to what the player wrote, it was in response to what another poster commented. All I meant was, football is a tough game, football players are tough guys. People on blogs are going to voice their opinions and players now days need to not worry so much about what people write. Most of us (including myself) here are not experts, just fans.

  128. Da Punchbowl Kid December 8, 2011 10:07 am

    #108 –

    Braddah Kurt,

    Since Miano ran for office as a Republican, does it mean he would favor a “conservative” offense? Nyuk, nyuk, I kid of course! I’m glad he’s applying.

    I’m glad in general that we have the range of different folks who are interested. The more the merrier, at a time like this.

  129. rich December 8, 2011 10:08 am

    Really interested to see who are the coaches that are applying

  130. Kevin December 8, 2011 10:08 am

    Talking “stink”???


    Reading comprehension FAILED AGAIN!!!!

  131. kev-1 December 8, 2011 10:09 am

    #90 your post to me was to leave the players alone. I did not attack any player.

  132. rainbowfan December 8, 2011 10:10 am

    I don’t think Chow is the man. His offenses since he left USC have been somewhat dead in the water – in the pros, with UCLA and Utah.

    Miano – some have raised some questions as to his standing with some of the players ? such as LizKauai posted on the Dec. 6 blog and other posts today.

  133. Pomai December 8, 2011 10:11 am

    #121 – mcb – That’s the problem your reading things into what he said. I guess I should go back and read it again because I didn’t see where he said there should be a coaching change or that the losing season wasn’t the assistant’s fault.

  134. Garret December 8, 2011 10:13 am

    To all the Legal and legal wannabe folks out there, does UH now have an argument for not paying the travel subsidies? After all, the MWC they are now going to enter is far different from the one that was in tact when they signed the contract. All this is taking place even before we have yet to strap up for one real game!


    I don’t know the legal implications, but what I *do* know is that during the announcement of the MWC/CUSA merger, Craig Thompson specifically said that UH would still be paying the travel subsidy. I believe that the Star-Advertiser even had an article that mentioned that.

    It all comes to down to leverage now. If UH insists on having no travel subsidy, the MWC can tell UH to leave. CUSA is not an option for UH either, so that would mean either the WAC or indy…neither option may be that great right now, but the depleted MWC isn’t a great option either.

    I trust JD to choose the best option for UH, and I’m glad that he has far more information than I have to make his decision. This would be a *horrible* time for UH to still have HF in charge.

  135. koakane December 8, 2011 10:13 am

    BIK I tend to agree with you. There should be some point for renegotiating. At one time UH was moving up in status but it doesn’t appear to be the case now. At least JD has a point to make with the MW. No harm in bringing up the issue again now seems the right time before UH gets into the MW season.

  136. Jonj December 8, 2011 10:16 am

    I personally think chow has best resume and would do well recruiting. That being said… We would have to invest in him, the program and realize that this would be a rebuilding effort of staff, players and system. We would have to allow atleast 2-3 crumby years. I also think if we want instant success (which I believe all of us do) would go with miano. He has been with Hawaii thru thick and thin. I would think he would take the good throw out the bad in all aspects! I believe knows what’s best for Hawaii football! Also he would retain rolo, lee, tuioti, inoke, lelie. For those who thinks he’s garbage, he has coached some outstanding DBS who have had their shots in the NFL. I personally think the d-coordinator and lack of pass-rush had alot to do with the poor pass defense. Listening to what he said on BC he would want more of an attacking D! Which makes me excited becuase growing up in Hawaii has taught me one thing! We love to see D bring the pain, exciting years where 05 n 06! That’s Hawaii football Finesse offense and hammer defense!

  137. cocobean December 8, 2011 10:16 am

    May the best recruiter win.

  138. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 10:17 am

    I suppose Mack has a gag order, cause it doesn’t seem like anybody is really asking him anything. One of those he said, she said, they said, we said… who said… things. We move on…

  139. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 10:18 am


    The best recruiter doesn’t have to be the head coach.

  140. RedZone December 8, 2011 10:19 am

    I think Chow may want more money than we have to offer. But I could be wrong.

  141. primo123 December 8, 2011 10:19 am

    REGARDING MIANO….it should be if he’s qualified and the right guy for the job….NOT if he’s liked or disliked by some players….especially ones that are out of the rotation and feel like they should be in it. I sure hope they dont select the HC based on that….shakey…real shakey…

  142. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 10:20 am

    The head coach has to be able to assemble the best assistants possible and feel comfortable in his own skin to let them rule their areas of responsibility and reign them in only when things aren’t working they way they are supposed to. I’m on the fence as to which I prefer, though. A defense minded HC or an offense minded one.

  143. kalani December 8, 2011 10:20 am

    #60 and #121

    mcb I agree. Plus now, the other coaches (and possibly players) may wonder whether what is being said to their face is the same as what is really being thought about them.

  144. primo123 December 8, 2011 10:21 am

    DOES HERMAN FRAZIER work at ARIZONA ST???wtf going on over there?

  145. Bryson December 8, 2011 10:24 am

    I don’t understand all the flack that Miano is getting about being on TV,He’s basically fighting for his job at this time what better way to keep yourself employed then to get your name and face out there,many haven’t really heard him speak over the years so now is a better time then ever to introduce himself to the public on a larger scale…by being on TV he’s doing 2 things Promoting himself to the public and university and also keeping the program together during a tumultuous time for the staff,team and State of Hawaii

  146. koakane December 8, 2011 10:25 am

    Garret I don’t disagree but JD should keep the issue open and since UH hasn’t entered the conference plans still can be discussed how the subsidies be equal and beneficial for all. Or at lest let the subsidies be for the team that were part of the original MW while other no way.

    I can not see UH being held hostage to benefit the MW while UH suck rocks

  147. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 10:28 am

    The thing is, if the selection committee hires someone else after all this campaigning, it may cause a lot of dissension among fans pro and con. I don’t want any public pressure on the selection committee.

  148. Pomai December 8, 2011 10:28 am

    My last comment on David Graves statements, first thing I consider is that the so called reporter was asking leading question. Also don’t think he should have interviewed him in the first place, his coach was just let go, he is just a kid, the only person who ever interviewed him before was probably ST and you could tell from his answers he didn’t want to answer any questions. Water under the bridge.

  149. Garret December 8, 2011 10:29 am

    Texas A&M apparently offered their head coaching job to Chris Petersen…of course Petersen declined.

    They offered Petersen the job. I reported it. Came from A&M and Boise sources plus college coach and an AD not connected w either

  150. Bruddah in Kona December 8, 2011 10:29 am

    So if JJ was not welcomed back to SMU and was willing to take a pay cut to 500K and return to Hawai’i, would you choose him or Miano?

  151. d1shima December 8, 2011 10:30 am


    Can you refresh me about the present and near future situation for the WAC’s TV agreements?

    If Hawaii backed off the MWC and its demand for travel subsidy, would seeking re-entry to the WAC work out better especially in terms of PPV $$$?

  152. cocobean December 8, 2011 10:34 am

    I have a feeling if Miano is not selected, one of the conditions placed on who ever is, will be that he retains Miano and Tuioto. Mainly to salvage this years recruiting class. Secondarily to repay Miano’s loyalty and to appease his supporters.

  153. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 10:34 am

    If Hawaii is losing it’s PPV to the MWC.. they should kill PPV, at least PPV to the private home. THEN they should seek exception for PPV in the theaters and count each person in the theater as a body in “attendance” as if they were physically at the stadium. We’d outsell our capacity that way.

  154. Derek December 8, 2011 10:36 am

    Jerry Glanville – NFL (Not For Long)

    Norm Chow – even if he’s interested and applies I doubt we can offer him what he wants, which is at least a million bucks. He’s the same age as I am, 65. I don’t know about him but I can feel that I’m slowing down already. My energy is not like it was when I was in the 30s, 40s, and even the 50s.

    Brian Norwood – interesting candidate

    Duane Akina – interesting candidate

    Dino Babers – I thought he was a long shot, but he’s interesting too.

    Robert Anae – I don’t think he’s in the top 5. Just my opinion.

    Ivan Jasper – If selected, the offense would be a big makeover, which I don’t particular like. Me, I think the best offense for Hawaii is the spread offense.

    Rich Miano – I’d like to see what our secondary people (Richard Torres, John Hardy-Tuliau, Mike Edwards, Tank Hopkins, Ornellas, Maggitt, etc.) give their feedback if Miano is a good fit. Be that as it may, I think Miano has a lot of the qualties that the selection committee is looking for. I also don’t think we can compare Bob Nash with Rich Miano. First of all, it’s a different sport. In basketball, Hawaii have very few Division I talent. In football, Hawaii per capita has a lot of Division I players to recruit from. I don’t think Bob Nash had a lot of connections to get the players needed to perform here. Gib Arnold showed that he has the connections to get some good players from a lot of places. I also think Arnold is a better talent evaluator than Nash. Miano is a good evaluator and he has shown he can develop players to get better with the walk-on program. That fact that he got in on Colt Brennan speaks volume to me.

  155. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 10:44 am

    I thought Colt Brennan was discovered when someone showed clips of a receiver that they were interested in and JJ asked who the QB was.

  156. Capitolist/WassupDoc December 8, 2011 10:46 am

    According to knowledgeable UH sources, the ADVISORY Committee will first establish criteria and then evaluate all candidates who’ve submitted applications/CVs. They will then rank their picks and submit their recommendation(s) to Jim Donovan.

    The ADVISORY Committee members were selected for their general as well as sports business/playing backgrounds, their communications skills, and their financial & political connnections to Hawai`i’s Pots-Of-Private-Sectior-Money.

    There are three major questions still out there for which I am trying to get answers from people who know what’s going on: 1) At what point will face-2-face interview(s) be conducted and by whom; 2) will the final choice & offer be a collective decision by the yet-un-named Selection Committee or will it be made by Jim Donovan and then sent up-the-food-chain for pro forma approval first to the Chancellor, then the President, and finally by the Board of Regents; 3) will the public be involved in the process prior to the final decision.

    Based upon my close observation of two recent high-ranking hires by two state agencies, the hiring processes was both measured and realistic. In one case, 19 people applied and 18 passed the initial screening. Then that number was cut down to five people who were all interviewed. That number was further cut down to three and more intensive interviews were conducted with the full Board finally making its decision. That endire process took about two months.

    This hire is being fast-tracked in several different ways, but the critical components of the hiring process have to be done in a ordered way – the interviews and examining the fit between the candidate(s) and the overall work environment.

  157. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 10:47 am

    Will the other candidates be allowed to freely interview with the radio stations, too, during the selection process?

  158. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 10:48 am


    Glad we have you there… thanks.

  159. Kevin December 8, 2011 10:48 am

    If it ONLY came down to June Jones or Rich Miano, any level-headed individual would have to favor Jones simply because of:

    -Public opinion based on what to expect out of him.

    -A history of head coaching experience.

    Do I think it’s a step in the right direction? Well, depends on what people want.

    I wrote yesterday that two things we prevalent during the coaching reigns of Jones and McMackin and that was inconsistent play in the collective THREE PHASES OF THE GAME OF FOOTBALL. At some point in their tenures ONE unit was either more consistent or reliable than the others. Great teams are consistent in all three phases of the game.

    So again after 13 years of that, we CAN and owe it to ourselves to get something NEW that points to a step in correcting this obvious shortfall.

  160. whitey December 8, 2011 10:49 am

    jj is headed back to smu. deal fell through at asu because of character assasination. WOW!!!!!!

  161. 808Bowler December 8, 2011 10:52 am

    Morning/afternoon peeps. Whats the scoop today?

  162. Slugger December 8, 2011 10:52 am

    This Is Why People Watch College Football:

    To lighten your day…

  163. Old Diver December 8, 2011 10:54 am

    If we really want to save money hire Jerry Glanville. It will be just like last time, we won’t need defensive assistant coaches.

  164. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 11:00 am

    Eh.. wanna save money? NO need head coach…no associate head coach, Coach by a consensus… OC.. DC.. Special Teams Kicking Coach, Special teams kick return/blocking Coach.

    Each responsible for their own.

  165. Iwonderwhytheyhateme December 8, 2011 11:00 am

    Isn’t the limit $700,000?

    Why do people keep suggesting $500,000?

  166. whitey December 8, 2011 11:02 am

    will da rainbow wahines set a new attendance record against usc??? get excellent chance and it should be rockin. Go Rainbow Wahines!!!!!!

  167. rainbowfan December 8, 2011 11:03 am

    Remember that time we went with Larry Price as Head Coach for 1974 to 76 ? After all, he was a great player, line coach and defensive coordinator for UH and probably a good recruiter of local and mainland talent. But it didn’t translate into total success as a head coach.

    Who was his replacement ? A guy from the mainland by the name of Dick Tomey. But even Tomey had a tough first two years at 11 wins and 11 losses.

    Of course, being from outside doesn’t guarantee success, such as Von appen and a guy named Frank Arnold in basketball.

  168. wait a minute December 8, 2011 11:03 am

    “Yeah I really love my Grandpa, of course, I’d do anything for him. But he’s getting kinda old, and when I talk to him he rambles and goes off on a tangent and I’m not sure what he’s talking about after awhile or what we were talking about in the first place. But yes, he’s my Grandpa and I really do love him, always.”

  169. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 11:05 am


    How can they set a new attendance record? Didn’t they have max capacity many times in the past? Gonna cut a hole in the roof?

    I hear there are less than 700 tickets left, though.

  170. 808Bowler December 8, 2011 11:08 am

    Norm Chow would be a intresting candidate. Tho I think they going either 2 ways. Someone young or close to the program or state. Imho

  171. al December 8, 2011 11:10 am

    66…that’s what I heard, too.

  172. Iwonderwhytheyhateme December 8, 2011 11:14 am

    Pretty sure that Chow knows that we are only able to pay $500,000-$700,000 for the next coach. M

    If he doesn’t know, I am sure at least ONE of the many Hawaii contacts he has spoken to or his agent may have mentioned it to him.

    Also, he makes right around $250,000 at Utah.

    Maybe Dr. Miyawaki is one of Chow’s contacts.

  173. Iwonderwhytheyhateme December 8, 2011 11:17 am


    Bleacher report reporter defended himself on sports Hawaii.

    He said the recorder was not hidden and Graves knew about the interview.

  174. primo123 December 8, 2011 11:24 am

    #168…….i wasnt around when Larry Price became the UH coach…..I thought Price was the radio guy???

  175. primo123 December 8, 2011 11:26 am

    #155…I’ll vote for you to be the new HC…but one question…Can you Recruit?

  176. Garret December 8, 2011 11:33 am

    Can you refresh me about the present and near future situation for the WAC’s TV agreements?

    If Hawaii backed off the MWC and its demand for travel subsidy, would seeking re-entry to the WAC work out better especially in terms of PPV $$$?


    The WAC’s TV deal with ESPN lasts until 2016 and apparently can get $$$ readjusted whenever they add or subtract teams. The deal was for ~$4.5 mil, but teams that played home games on Fridays got $75k bonuses, so some schools (like UH) made more than the WAC average. It is rumored that the WAC will be cut to $1 mil/year (that is about $100k/team) due to the departures (but you still get $75k bonuses for playing on Fridays), but if the WAC adds teams they could get more money from ESPN depending on how ESPN values those teams.

    The MWC’s TV deal will get UH about $1 mil/year. The big thing is that the MWC got a bigger TV contract by giving all local TV rights to the mtn…that works out great for schools like Wyoming where they couldn’t get much from a local TV deal, but it doesn’t work out great for a school like UH that can make far more than that from local TV rights.

    Conferences with ESPN get ESPN3 streaming for games, but streaming games is forbidden under the MWC TV deal. The WAC also has the WAC Sports Network that shows a lot of games on the mainland that ESPN doesn’t show.

    If this is strictly about TV money, the ~$2.5 mil from the WAC/PPV is more than the ~$1 mil from the MWC. The travel subsidies for football are expected to cost between $600k (4 home games @ $150k per game) to $875k (5 home games @ $175k per game). So, financially there is about a $2.25 mil difference for UH between the conferences.

    However, the MWC (especially before it was raided) has more attractive teams, which results in more ticket sales for UH home games and higher PPV subscriber numbers. That brings in extra money. The WAC also could be more expensive for UH to travel to…it is hard to estimate that because conference memberships keep changing.

    The non-AQ schools split the guaranteed BCS money based on the nonconference football records of each non-AQ conference. The WAC is #3 in the power rating and the MWC is #1, which comes out to a difference of $1.7 mil…or about $170k more to each MWC school.

    One huge complication is if the MWC/CUSA alliance has the MWC playing a regular conference schedule plus some nonconference games against CUSA schools, then WAC schools may not be able to schedule MWC or CUSA schools. That would make things hard for WAC schools to get nonconference games that are not paycheck games…and UH doesn’t want paycheck games.

    The MWC could also invite SJSU and USU to kill the WAC as a football conference. Then what leverage would UH have?

    The MWC also has a $5 mil exit fee, which they started after BYU, Utah, and TCU left. SDSU and BSU will have to pay that and I hope that UH gets its share.

  177. Chance um!! December 8, 2011 11:33 am


    Sorry brah, but Miano is not a good coach. 11 seasons in the NFL doesn’t make anyone a coach.

    After his pro career Miano worked for his former father-in-law doing mediocre remedial errands. While he dabbled in local radio commentary for football games on the side, JJ plucked Miano up and gave him a chance to be a coach.

    Miano’s coaching experience is all at UH. Nothing else. While other coaches on staff have gone to off season clinics, Miano’s relied on his experience instead to guide him and it shows.

    Just look at all our DB’s that have gone on to play in the NFL. In the 12 years Miano’s been coaching, only Mouton has made any inroads into the big game and he did it on his own merit. Not with Miano’s help.

    One of the bad raps against Peters while at Chicago was his poor or lack of any fundamental techniques.

    NFL coaches have said they’ll give future UH DB prospects a look but vowed to never draft one as long as Miano’s here.

    If you wanna run fastah, brah Miano’s your man. You like da “Rah! Rah!” speeches, dat no make sense? Miano da bess!! But as a head coach? uuuhhh… if you like lose money, Chance um!!

  178. Kokokev December 8, 2011 11:34 am

    “Norm Chow should be our next HC”

    I hear this alot and it’s great and we’re very proud of him and his success’…….but the most important thing you have to ask yourself is…….do we have….can we get……realistically…….the type of player/athlete that his system….or for that matter…..any newly introduced system that will be run on the offense…..and mores……what defense would complement that offense?????… has to complement each other….and a wicked special team unit Yo boot.

  179. primo123 December 8, 2011 11:36 am

    so much LOVE for MIANO………makes me wunder……

    MIANO = NASH …………????

  180. Kevin December 8, 2011 11:47 am


    No can break the attendance record! The Rainbow Wahine sold the place out during that Hawaii Five O filming and before that during Dave Shoji’s 1000th career winning game vs NMSU two years ago.

    Well… unless the seating capacity of the arena somehow gets larger….

  181. Kevin December 8, 2011 11:49 am

    We should try to break some kind of noise decible record level or something.

    VERY glad I bought my package for this weekend before the Colorado State game!!!

  182. Kevin December 8, 2011 11:53 am

    “Chance em”,

    I think you raise VALID concerns when you cite Miano’s overall coaching experience.

    I know A LOT has been said about the positional coaching of DBs over the years and this goes back to the JJ days as well, BUT with that being said, I personally don’t put much stock into how many players a coach has a hand in going to the NFL.

    Boise State is an example of a program that has their kids perform well in college, but doesn’t send the amount one would assume to the pros compared to UH.

  183. cocobean December 8, 2011 11:54 am

    No one on the list is proven program leader. Picking anyone of them is a crap shoot. None comes with a money back guarantee if not satisfied with the results. The stakes are too high for connections or favoritism to come into play.

    Miano has been in the media the most so he’s been drawing the most fan reaction one way or the other. Hope to see the others on the list plea their case.

    Sorry to the Norm Chow fans but I’m hoping they pick an energerizer bunny type guy. But then again picking Norm will give as a distinct schematic advantage over everyone we play.

  184. Old School Dave December 8, 2011 11:55 am

    Jim Donovan: Please don’t “blow it” this time with Norm Chow. He’s man enough to put what happened to him back in 1995 with the stacked deck situation he faced and the criticism he received in the interview from then AD Hugh Yoshida. I’m sure you, as the Assistant AD at the time, were there. Norm Chow’s record speaks for himself. I don’t think money is an issue with him as he’s comfortable with his house in Utah and I’m sure he’s quite comfortable from what he made while at USC, UCLA, and the NFL. Many close to Chow say that he’s a different person when back in Hawaii, very relaxed and outgoing which is in contrast to his gruff, grouchy image.

    Again, Mr Donovan, please make the right decision. An opportunity like this rarely comes twice.

  185. tommui December 8, 2011 11:55 am

    Once more with feeling –

    “Coaches had said” … Who, where, source of the information. Either that or review your real name instead of a blog name – in short, we have to consider the source.

    Who would I want as a coach? Anyone that can lead us to consistent winning seasons – I don’t care if they use the Run & Shoot or the Single Wing. Just win.

  186. Jonj December 8, 2011 11:58 am


    Isnt that the job of the head coach “rah rah speaches and “run faster” as well as management of coaches and disciplinary actions towards players?? So I guess miano “could” be a great head coach and not so great position coach. I dont kno but we have the pieces in place right now with a young talented offense for the RnS or maybe a spread option. If we go away from that basically we wasted 4 years of recruits and start over which equates to more loses.

  187. FattyMcButterpants December 8, 2011 12:02 pm

    #155 Excellent post

  188. jm2375 December 8, 2011 12:02 pm

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Re: TV money – as someone pointed out previously, if UH had stayed in the WAC, ESPN would put UH on tv more often (and not have to pay them extra if not moved), thereby losing all the PPV money for those games. So, UH (& Oceanic) would lose tv money either way.

    Former Georgetown coach John Thompson, Jr. would only let the seniors talk to the media. Of course, that was 30 years ago and times have changed, but it could be a way to go.

    GO WAHINE!!!

  189. kev-1 December 8, 2011 12:05 pm

    #188 about #155 . . . my thoughts exactly.

  190. Dan-O December 8, 2011 12:08 pm

    Norm maybe interested, but dont hold your breath….until he actually applies.

    As for Miano, another positive of him being the HC would be that SOMEONE else coaches the secondary!

  191. Kevin December 8, 2011 12:11 pm


    December 8th, 2011 at 11:54 am

    No one on the list is proven program leader. Picking anyone of them is a crap shoot. None comes with a money back guarantee if not satisfied with the results. The stakes are too high for connections or favoritism to come into play.


  192. SteveM December 8, 2011 12:11 pm

    Jerry Glanville???

    I had real mixed emotions and thoughts when I read that.

    I admit that I searched and saw the thousands of articles and ESPN stories revolving around him after JJ hired him. We know their official history and Glanvilles’s big bag and number calling schtick.

    Jerry Glanville is one of the most colorful and interviewed coaches in football. Google “Jerry Glanville” and 679,000 links will come up. A legitimate head coach? No question. Also a “twilight” one — one who would coach to build his legacy and bragging rights– not build his resume and bank account.

    If Mack had Glanville to do his public speaking and media events, UH football would be a household word. ESPN and publications would be interviewing every week. Probably more UH games would be on national TV.

    How the current staff would react is another question. We know Mouse won’t return. He and Jerry tried to resurrect the Portland State program, with Mouse “retiring” after 2 years. No doubt Jerry wanted to adjust the R&S. I always thought he tolerated the R&S because JJ was the boss and he ran it. So would Glanville retain Rolo and R&S? I think, but he would modify it.

    But I have mixed feelings. I need to hear Glanville’s colorful description of what he would do.

    He certainly has the credentials and temperament to kick butt and make changes. He would put fans in the stands and draw a lot of off-season media attention.

  193. Kevin December 8, 2011 12:12 pm


    December 8th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    Norm maybe interested, but dont hold your breath….until he actually applies.

    As for Miano, another positive of him being the HC would be that SOMEONE else coaches the secondary!


  194. 808realism December 8, 2011 12:17 pm

    DG: Yeah, we needed a fire! It was…I don’t know…this is really stirring me up to say something like this because I respect Coach Mack. I really believe he was a great man and he really cared for us. But it was just…I feel like it was hard for the team sometimes to respect everything that he was saying when we were preparing into games. Or getting into the true grit of football.

  195. WarriorMojo December 8, 2011 12:22 pm


    What kine feet you get now?

  196. Graham December 8, 2011 12:24 pm

    I say bring Norm Chow as HC and keep Rolo on staff so in 4-5 year Rolo can just take over when Norm retires. If Chow was hired it would bring excitment back to the program. Also local recuriting would pick up as well. Money for Norm Chow I dont think will be the factor if he comes. He makes 250,000 thousand

  197. airsumo December 8, 2011 12:26 pm

    No Norm Chow for HC for me. Met him several yrs ago at Cooke Field. He came off as being aloof and arrogant. My opinion only.

    BIK-In DR’s column i mentioned the similiarity of the RNS & the Spread. I meant only in a general way i.e-both pass a ton, both run 4/5 wr sets, both use the shotgun. I’m not an expert just seeing only the obvious.

  198. RedZone December 8, 2011 12:28 pm

    Me thinks that the head coaching job brings out the gruff and grumpy image in some. Look at Nevada. But he is a good coach.

  199. RedZone December 8, 2011 12:32 pm

    #196. I meant to say ate. But now that I look at my feet.

  200. GT December 8, 2011 12:38 pm

    Not only do we need a good coach, we need a good conference! With BSU and SDSU leaving, the MWC is third tier at best.

  201. WarriorNY December 8, 2011 12:41 pm

    To all of you who are saying hire Norm Chow, have you seen what Norm Chow has accomplished in the past 5 years??? Absolutely nothing! His offenses have been terrible.

  202. Old Diver December 8, 2011 12:48 pm

    Just asking. How many times has Norm Chow been released for fired for his job performance?

  203. A-House December 8, 2011 12:48 pm


    and the donkey speaks again – no mystery to me and I suppose many others that KB really watched the “back” of BSU.

    It’s a trait that is not needed by a conference commish.!

  204. 808realism December 8, 2011 12:51 pm

    GT – conferences don’t give invitations based on potential (assuming that is how we would move to something better than a “3rd tier” conference). We need to focus on a quality coach and quality players. Because as of right now, were barely competitive in the WAC, which according to your “standards” must be a 5th or 6th tier conference.

    come on people

  205. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 12:54 pm

    Maybe Hawaii should petition to try and get into CUSA… aren’t they ESPN? 😉

  206. A-House December 8, 2011 12:57 pm


    how many “assistant” positions are/will UH publicize? Mouse for sure – right?

  207. Souljah December 8, 2011 12:58 pm

    All the WAC school presidents should ask for Benson’s resignation immediately for not being fair and unbiased to all the conference schools!

  208. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 1:00 pm

    All MWC schools should request entry to CUSA … as well as all WAC Schools. Then maybe they can have three divisions? Get some new blood into our stadium on a regular basis. Have a conference big enough so that there will be no fear of the super conferences collapsing ours … and so on and so forth. AND have ESPN while keeping our PPV

  209. A-House December 8, 2011 1:01 pm

    What is/are the consequence(s) if UH pulls out of its MWC commitment for football?

    Thompson already indicated or if not dictated that UH must pay the way for ALL schools in the new MWC/C-USA merger – no discussion? negotiations? dictator all the way???????? Is this what UH wants from their conference commissioner?

  210. Bowwar December 8, 2011 1:03 pm

    I’ve been reserving comment for the past few days for a number of reasons…One, I think that Hawaii’s expectations far exceed the reality of what it takes to have a BIG TIME football program. To have a BIG TIME program you have to be the same in facilities, boosters, fans, and support from State government. None of those aspects honestly exist here. Our fans won’t come unless there’s a “winner” and we won’t pay top dollar for anything…That being said, its really unfortunate that a “decent” guy like Mack became of “victim” of our over inflated expectations, our poor management, and lack of support…

    I THANK Mack for his dedication and hardwork. Over time, we will realize what we had and lost.

    As for successors, I wouldn’t hire ANY of the assistants on UH staff with the possible exception of Tuioti, who was an effective position coach. In essence, MACK failed because his assistants failed in their jobs. But, the HC takes the blame, so let it be. I don’t like Miano’s “campaigning” for the HC position as it disses MACK and he hasn’t shown any responsible growth in the program to merit consideration…Why did JJ and MACK both pass on having Miano as DC?? Why was our secondary always a source of frustration over his tenure?

    I’m open to anyone coming from the mainland to take over the program…I remember the success with had with Tomey and what he did to establish UH as a D1 program. I kinda like the idea of Cavanaugh coming back as HQ, as he connected with the local populace and he had that “winning” attitude that permiated amongst the players.

    Chow was never a favorite of mine and he hasn’t done anything since leaving BYU, with pitstops with UCLA, Tennessee Titans, and now, Utah. If Mack was a “grandpa”, believe Chow is either older or not far behind…

    All I know is that we all have to “step-up” as fans or forget about having a winning program, as a Coach will only do so much.

    Lastly, THANK YOU MACK for trying your BEST for Hawaii and embracing its fans in your tenure. You were “by-far” the most approachable and friendly coach UH has ever had on any level. God Bless you, Heather, and your family. You’ll always be a Warrior in my eyes!

  211. Bowwar December 8, 2011 1:05 pm

    Sorry for the typos and grammatical errors…To excited and typing too quickly…

  212. ai-eee-soos December 8, 2011 1:06 pm

    off-topic – anything can happen

    Charlie Weis hired as Kansas head coach

  213. mikey December 8, 2011 1:16 pm

    A House: Dong Su Ended? Thanks better go back and look at tape last few weeks worth.

    Boy a busy day today as well I see.

  214. mikey December 8, 2011 1:17 pm

    Yes I would give some food for thought on Norm Chow.

  215. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 1:18 pm


    Yep.. Dong su ended last week.. this other one, Tree with Deep Roots is starting to get interesting…

  216. mikey December 8, 2011 1:18 pm

    Does the “The Committee” know any of these coaches that applied much less football knowledge?

    They should also include a student or current player to the selection committee.

    How can we bring them students back?

  217. Couch potato December 8, 2011 1:19 pm

    i see asu has no need for a search and advisory committee. just ask the fans and the donors who they don’t want.

  218. mikey December 8, 2011 1:22 pm

    If there is one coach I like to keep is Tony Tuioti at DL coach, He has done a lot in few years here.

  219. Souljah December 8, 2011 1:22 pm

    At least this didn’t happen to one of the UH players…like oregon state

  220. primo123 December 8, 2011 1:23 pm


  221. Dan-O December 8, 2011 1:23 pm

    #211….Indeed, a head coach is ONLY as good as his assistants.

  222. Couch potato December 8, 2011 1:23 pm

    no student and no player on the committee. both would be unable to be partial.

    bringing students and fans back begins with wins. the loyal fans are not going to fill the stadium. winning will cure a lot of things.

  223. primo123 December 8, 2011 1:24 pm

    #211 TOO!!

  224. Couch potato December 8, 2011 1:25 pm

    or did i mean impartial? 😆

  225. mikey December 8, 2011 1:25 pm

    Ouside of Dr Freitas, Duane Kurisu, and Dr Miyawaki on the advisory serch committee, I don’t know if any of the rest has any sports knowledge much less football program and what it takes to run it.

  226. Couch potato December 8, 2011 1:26 pm

    don’t post while groggy.

  227. primo123 December 8, 2011 1:27 pm

    I WONDER…………..IF fans like us……….HAVE THE POWER….to REJECT A COACH…….like Arizona St supposedily did………. YA THINK??

  228. Couch potato December 8, 2011 1:31 pm

    many don’t have government knowledge or what it takes to run a state, yet we vote what turns out more to be a popularity contest.

    anywhozit, some have their favorites for hc. me? no matter who the hc, i’ll still be there next season.

  229. WarriorNY December 8, 2011 1:34 pm

    Off topic…

    Chris Paul to the Lakers!

  230. Stephen Tsai December 8, 2011 1:37 pm

    Re: MWC.

    Even if travel subsidies must be paid, it’s important for UH to be in a conference.

    As San Diego State and Boise State have proven, then college football landscape tilts eastward.

  231. Stephen Tsai December 8, 2011 1:41 pm

    Just an observation, but it appears it’s easy to create wish lists when you don’t have to pay the bills. It would be interesting to hear some fund-raising suggestions that could help UH get to the next level. I’ve always felt UH needed to have events geared to people who want to help but are on limited budgets. I think it’s easier to get many people to give a little than few people giving a lot. Thoughts?

  232. Stephen Tsai December 8, 2011 1:43 pm

    Did somebody clear the Odom trade with his wife?

  233. A-House December 8, 2011 1:44 pm

    Will C. Thompson dictate to the “east Coast’ teams for the new MWC/C-USA that they must pay the travel for Hawaii when it is scheduled in the future?

    me no tink so! perhaps, this was a major factor in getting the C-USA commish to agree to merging – travel expenses has become a very ONE-SIDED affair with Thompson dictating what he wants.

  234. WarriorNY December 8, 2011 1:44 pm


  235. A-House December 8, 2011 1:45 pm

    now that the “cream” is leaving the nest, look what’s left? the has-beens with little or no negotiating power to do anything except what C Thompson says.

  236. Dan-O December 8, 2011 1:47 pm

    Ok…..if we are going to pay travel subsidies for conference members, then seriously…..why dont we look at joining other conferences? Obviously, geography is not a factor.

    And I would think travel via the major travel hubs are cheaper than flights and transportation to Laramie, Wyoming.

  237. HawaiiMongoose December 8, 2011 1:47 pm

    More bad news for the Hawaii Bowl: Southern Mississippi’s AD is resigning due to fan and booster anger over his decision to accept a Hawaii Bowl bid. They’re upset because it’s too far away for most of them to travel.

  238. Stephen Tsai December 8, 2011 1:49 pm


    Couldn’t agree more. I remember when UH arrived in Laramie fewer than 12 hours before a noon kickoff. UH lost, 66-0 — the original Rout 66.

  239. Couch potato December 8, 2011 1:50 pm

    sorry mississippi fans, travel by paddleboat to hawaii is a no go.

  240. Dan-O December 8, 2011 1:51 pm

    wow Mongoose…….talk about POWER to the people, or fans rather! First ASU….now Southern Miss.

  241. Kokokev December 8, 2011 1:52 pm

    Keith Browning would be a great pick up the D side. He currently runs the D for Blinn College in the JUCO in Texas. He has accomplished alot and is young….and the Texas pipeline ain’t bad either….just one suggestion out of tons out there….should check um out

  242. kalani December 8, 2011 1:58 pm


    Brett Favre to the rescue!

  243. d1shima December 8, 2011 1:58 pm

    Send the So. Miss fans photos of Hawaii sections at the Sugar Bowl.

    Hiki No

  244. WarriorMojo December 8, 2011 1:58 pm

    Having political and economic representatives on the screening committee is a no-brainer. Those are the institutions who are expected to come up with money, so it seems to me that they should have some say in what they pay for.

    The more interesting question is who’s NOT represented on the committee. We got BOH and Outrigger Hotels and FHB through Kobayashi. But I don’t see HA or Oceanic. And why not reach out to Tesoro? L&L and Zippy’s even.

    Not suggesting all these entities are on the same financial level, but still, let’s get Zippy’s or L&L into the stadium so they have more of a vested interest in the program. After the game it’s next stop Zippy’s anyway, so let’s get them to put up some bucks.

    And why not reach out to Omidyar? Don’t know if he has any interest at all in sports or football, much less Hawaii sports or Hawaii football, but let’s try to cultivate the relationship. Guys like that who have bucks for philanthropic causes and live in Hawaii may be donors down the road. Start cultivating the relationship now.

  245. primo123 December 8, 2011 1:59 pm

    AS A LOYAL UH fan………I DEMAND they LOWER the price of BEER at the Stadium…………WHO’S WITH ME???????

  246. Ralph December 8, 2011 2:00 pm

    Hinshaw needs to clean close and hold the ADs accountable for low game attendance and lost of revenue this season. What have the ADs done to promote each game- they needed to reach out to the community beyond H Mail and an occasional news print ad.

    We have a vibrant military community, outside of having a single military night, what have the ADs done to welcome the military to each and every game, encouraged their attendance, etc. Military night is great to honor our troops, but having additional military discount ticket nights would have helped our troops afford to come to our games. I know its written somewhere on the UH web that military can get discounts to games but you got to know where to search to find the notice which most military personnel are not aware of. Poor public relations in the AD office, the military is an untapped source and JD should be held accountable.

  247. primo123 December 8, 2011 2:00 pm

    FAN POWER!!!!!!!!!!

  248. (Jesse) James December 8, 2011 2:05 pm

    ST #232…I agree. If we got all 200,000 plus UH Alumni to donate a mere $10 to the University, that would equate to an additional $2 million the University never had….

  249. d1shima December 8, 2011 2:07 pm


    I was wondering how come Stretch has not been mentioned yet? :mrgreen:

  250. Dan-O December 8, 2011 2:11 pm

    d1….traveling to a BCS bowl and the Hawaii Bowl are NOT the same.

  251. aaron December 8, 2011 2:11 pm

    Stephen Tsai: remember at the end of the 2007 season where they were selling those autographed book packages for $125 that included a Na Koa membership? I think that’s a perfect example of what you are describing: an easy way for people on limited budgets to give to the program. They raised $80,000 with that.

  252. Kevin December 8, 2011 2:17 pm

    If UHathletics starts raising an extra 2 million every year on its own, is that 2 million LESS they will be getting from upper campus for their annual budget?

    Dont under-estimate da kine.

  253. 808Bowler December 8, 2011 2:17 pm

    Just herd that 5* cb still committed to Hawaii. sounds like a good start to recruiting.

  254. d1shima December 8, 2011 2:21 pm

    Yep. No mo BCS bowls in Hawaii! 😀

  255. Kevin December 8, 2011 2:24 pm

    UH athletics should hire 36 people that can count cards and send one to Vegas every month in rotation so that they won’t get caught.

  256. WarriorMojo December 8, 2011 2:26 pm

    Re #250

    Stretch already does direct deposit of his whole paycheck straight to Na Koa. No mo’ fruit on that tree.

    Or is he hiding something? Stretch, stand and deliver!

  257. Ralph December 8, 2011 2:28 pm

    Advertising and sponsorship are limited to corporate level businesses. To high “maka” in the AD office. They have a minimum at $25K, they want to work with the “big” boys only, so an Island business who wants to participate and be part of the UH family can’t unless it can afford the 25K “buy” in as a sponsor.

    If a business wants to advertise and be recognized as a sponsor, the going rate starts at 25K. Small businesses need not apply. Also, the product or services can not compete with the existing corporate sponsors-they have exclusive rights which is understandable for the “big bucks” they pay or “trade” to UH.

    UH needs to reach out to the smaller donors and businesses, Hinshaw needs to put in place ADs who can reach out to the public in general and not work the “status quo” year in and year out only to find themselves with the same financial predicament every year.

  258. Kevin December 8, 2011 2:29 pm


    It’s $10,000.00 unless they just raised it.

  259. Slugger December 8, 2011 2:30 pm


    December 8th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    Hinshaw needs to clean close and hold the ADs accountable…

    You mean “clean clothes” like “dry cleaning”? Just giving you a hard time, Ralph. 😛

    Not going to worry about what I can’t control at UH Athletics.

    You CAN join Na Koa for $25 minimum… Get discounts on Rainbowtique gear, discounts or upgrades on food at concessions, SUPPORT THE STUDENT-ATHLETES… Easy to do. Low cost.

  260. Pomai December 8, 2011 2:32 pm

    correct me if I am wrong but the BOR is involved in this hiring only if they want to go over the $$ limit set by them(BOR).

  261. (Jesse) James December 8, 2011 2:33 pm

    Kevin…understood. Just trying to point out that small donations from lots of individuals can make a difference. Imagine if those same 200,000 individuals could afford to donate $100…$20 million in extra revenue for the University.

    I believe it was the Michigan State University President who, when he took office, declared that their capital campaign’s goal was to raise $1 billion from alumni over a ten year period. They accomplished that in under 5 years with mainly smaller donations.

  262. Dan-O December 8, 2011 2:34 pm

    Sure winnah fund raisahs….

    1. Zippy’s chili: who doesnt eat it?

    2. $1.00 candy (M&M’s, Snickers): 50% profit on each sale!

    3. Stand on the road with fish net: I see plenty people doing this…

  263. d1shima December 8, 2011 2:38 pm

    That’s one advantage of having an on-campus stadium. The school could do stuff like “buy-a-brick” on the “Walk of Fame” or a “Paw Print” on the “CatWalk” kine stuff. Those things are right there and highly visible on game day and are scalable for maximum participation.

  264. Pomai December 8, 2011 2:38 pm

    #268 (J)J – first UH has to get pass the Alum vs Letterwinner BS.

  265. 808Bowler December 8, 2011 2:41 pm

    Bleacher report ranks Hawaii 10th out of 14 for best coaching jobs. arkansas st rank higher then us.

  266. (Jesse) James December 8, 2011 2:43 pm

    d1…#264. UH actually tried to do something like that. I believe if you walk down that “newer” walkway across from the law library/law school and parking structure and walk towards the bookstore, there are bricks along the walkway with donor’s names on them. However, it never got any traction…LOL. Slightly different than an on-campus stadium scenario…..but still….

  267. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 8, 2011 2:44 pm

    stripper car wash.

  268. oldie December 8, 2011 2:49 pm

    Question -Does MWC control the televising of out of conference games also?

    Not saying I’m for or against Norm Chow, can you see the hype if ESPN could show NC’s first head coaching game against USC next fall?

  269. jm2375 December 8, 2011 2:49 pm

    Ralph – KSt vs WVU on da Deuce @ 4pm

  270. d1shima December 8, 2011 2:51 pm

    Imagine the team bus pulling up in front of Aloha Stadium at the far end of the walkway thru the parking lot and the players getting out and walking single-file thru the parking lot on a pathway illuminated on both sides by torches that have been paid for with individual donations and paved with lava rocks paid for by other individual donations.

    The players walk thru in uniform green sweats with a white stripe coming down the right side and opening up as it makes a graceful turn in at the knee into a Rainbow color pattern. On the left chest of each Warrior is the pure white embroidered Hawaiian Island chain over his heart.

    Each player slings over his left shoulder his dark green equipment bag with the “H” logo uniformly displayed on the outside facing the crowd who has gathered along the path chanting, “Imua…Imua…Imua”

    I wish I could think of Pride.-ful and Big Guy kine stuff li’dat! 😉

  271. doris December 8, 2011 2:52 pm

    I just heard Charlie Weiss got Kansas. This giant coaching carousel is just making my head spin. But lets just get the best one possible at UH and be done with it already!!!

  272. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 8, 2011 2:53 pm


    Or when a local recruit’s parents has Mr. Chow over for coffee and malasadas. If he doesn’t eat malasadas, I don’t want him as HC.

  273. (Jesse) James December 8, 2011 2:58 pm

    D1…IWWTHM….I like your thinking…. 🙂

  274. d1shima December 8, 2011 2:59 pm


    Like cocobean said earlier, more “distinct schematic advantage over everyone we play” coming to KU.

  275. LadyD December 8, 2011 3:07 pm

    #128 Kev-1. Thank you for the response, I understand now. If you are referring to LizKauai’s comments, it was from Paipai’s facebook. I spoke to him about it and he agreed with what you said. He told me, “Gramz going get plenny stuff both good & bad said about me, so you gotta handle, I am pono with myself, no worry….”

  276. rainbowfan December 8, 2011 3:13 pm


    They have the moolah or the connections to it, that’s why they are on the search committee. UH Football can’t continue without the moolah. They are supposed to know how to get the moolah.

  277. J-Dog December 8, 2011 3:14 pm

    Bring back the huge speakers with the 3rd/4th down music and the hawaiian chants.

  278. AlaWai December 8, 2011 3:17 pm

    d1shima: This is the type of thinking I’ve bee hyping on this blog. Bravo! I also suggest the UH Band do a Parking lot march through the tailgaters with the Dancers carrying donation buckets for donations. Nothing like a few green bottles to stimulate the emptying of loose cash from pockets. The band synchs with the arrival of the team so they are at the Front Gate when the team arrives. A mini pep rally with coaches and team doing the haka on the stairs so all can see. Cheer leaders can lead the crowd in the cheers they want to do during the game.

    When Colt & Co. were here everyone wanted to connect with them, now the team needs to connect with its fans. The Gov, Mayor and other public figures e.g. Hawaii 5-O cast need to asked to participate. Don’t need to commercialize it. Its for the fans.

  279. kev-1 December 8, 2011 3:20 pm

    #276 . . . to add further, the comments from the players in support of Mack were good and appreciated. The fact that he did good by his players has never been in dispute. I don’t discredit players supporting their coach. Thank you for getting back.

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  281. kev-1 December 8, 2011 3:21 pm

    Did someone just suggest selling chilli tickets to raise money for the coaches salary?

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  284. Kevin December 8, 2011 3:24 pm

    If an applicant calls gyoza “potstickers”, I don’t want him here either.

  285. primo123 December 8, 2011 3:29 pm

    ANDDDDD….every friday before the game………..UH Band and others….go thru the CAMPUS!!! RAH RAH! SHISH BOOM BAH!!…..Hype it! Make it a TRADITION!!

  286. KeleguenBinadu December 8, 2011 3:31 pm

    Did I hear that Chris Tanaka said Brian Cabral is interested in being HC?

  287. tommui December 8, 2011 3:44 pm

    #285 KEVIN – except if a Chinese applies, we refer to them as potstickers. (guo-te). gyoza is Japanese.

  288. d1shima December 8, 2011 3:47 pm


    Not sure about all the cha-lang-a-lang stuff…

    I can see the Warriors marching resolutely and in a focused manner with eyes straight ahead, never wavering as they proceed to disappear into the Stadium to await the next victim.

    What the fans like do after that, das up to dem…

    btw, after the second year, I haven’t really been “all in” for the whole Haka thing. Can give ’em back to the All Blacks already. JMO

  289. d1shima December 8, 2011 3:52 pm


    (Eh, I get one of your old skool bottle openers)

    I like see the team leading this rally on campus…sing Co-ed (do one chorus a capella fo make shua erryboddy know the words!)…say a few words…get the foreign students excited/intimidated (whichever works)…have a few contests for give away some logowear…

    …take it from dea.

  290. d1shima December 8, 2011 3:54 pm

    Brian Cabral.

    No opinion but I understand that would be ironic!


  291. TChahng December 8, 2011 3:56 pm

    If a certain kicking coach calls gyoza “yakimandoo” and his last name is Kim, I want him on the coaching staff.

    😀 😀

  292. primo123 December 8, 2011 3:59 pm

    Students should earn extra credits in classes if they know who the coaches are for the various major sports.

  293. AlaWai December 8, 2011 4:00 pm

    D1, the most important thing is to somehow engage the fans in the parking lot. The team can be cool but we need the band and the cheerleaders raising a pre-game frenzy.

  294. primo123 December 8, 2011 4:00 pm

    Extra Credits for Students that bring their student game tickets as validation they went to the games.!

    5 points!

  295. (Jesse) James December 8, 2011 4:01 pm

    D1..#289 I like that idea. Maybe just the sound of a conch as the team walks in with a Hawaiian chant calling the warriors to battle….

  296. (Jesse) James December 8, 2011 4:02 pm

    Primo #295….We used to get 10 points of extra credit for voting….same idea…LOL

  297. (Jesse) James December 8, 2011 4:03 pm

    as DPK would say…almost tree-hunered

  298. primo123 December 8, 2011 4:04 pm

    wassup wit the sledge hammer when the teams are coming outta the tunnel???….whos’ idea was dat??

    minus 5 points dere….

  299. (Jesse) James December 8, 2011 4:04 pm

    Are we there yet???

  300. Don Weir December 8, 2011 4:06 pm



    Can you clarify???

  301. d1shima December 8, 2011 4:06 pm

    Seeing that team bus making one lap around the parking lot (with Solo Bike escort) will get erryboddy “engaged”!

    After they pau walk in going get plenny papa’a meat on da grills wen people go back! 😈

  302. d1shima December 8, 2011 4:09 pm



    Union, brah.

  303. AlaWai December 8, 2011 4:16 pm

    The hammer is carried by the ST ‘player of the game’ from the previous game.

  304. wafan December 8, 2011 4:17 pm

    Baking soda!

  305. wafan December 8, 2011 4:18 pm

    Aaaaaaaaand a super good evening to everyone!

  306. Pomai December 8, 2011 4:19 pm

    #301 – don email me and I will explain, pomai @ nawahine . com

  307. d1shima December 8, 2011 4:19 pm


    Open ’em before you put ’em in da oven!

  308. (Jesse) James December 8, 2011 4:22 pm

    Wafan…step away from the baking soda…..

  309. wafan December 8, 2011 4:22 pm

    d1 . . .

    Going to try cooking oil next.

  310. wafan December 8, 2011 4:23 pm

    (J)J . . .

    Good to see you around! Must have been crazy busy at the funny shaped building. Hope all are well.

  311. (Jesse) James December 8, 2011 4:25 pm

    Ok gang…gotta get back to work….go to church…and then back to work…Whew!!!!

    Talk to you guys later…and hope to see many of you this Saturday at Murphy’s…..anytime between 5:30 and whenever 🙂

  312. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 4:26 pm

    I wonder what the top end of our budget for the next HC is including all incentives?

    That’s really going to determine who we get or what caliber of coaching experience we can probably expect.

  313. wafan December 8, 2011 4:28 pm

    Rewriting the district curricula for digital graphics I/II, and digital photography I/II/III. Those clowns do not ask for much. Deadline is middle of January. Working on securing a little extra pay for the 100+ additional hours of work. Hopefully I do not set off the smoke alarms. HA!

  314. Ed. December 8, 2011 4:30 pm

    Haven’t heard from our governer about this change at U H . What’s up.

  315. Pomai December 8, 2011 4:31 pm

    Ed you won’t either.

  316. Kevin December 8, 2011 4:32 pm


    Check your mail… NOT email, but mail sometime next week.

    Just in time for CHRISTMAS!!!

  317. wafan December 8, 2011 4:32 pm

    Cannot reach the mic?

    Sorry about that, governor. HA!

  318. d1shima December 8, 2011 4:33 pm

    You make it sound like that is a bad thing….

  319. wafan December 8, 2011 4:33 pm

    Kevin . . .

    Whoo-hoo, will do!!!

    Thank you, sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  320. Kevin December 8, 2011 4:33 pm

    Uncle Larry Lingle supposedly called June Jones to try to get him to stay back in the day…

    I think Abercrombie took offense to Mack’s Notre Dame comment. 😆

  321. Kevin December 8, 2011 4:36 pm


    What substantial comment can concerned UH fans expect to hear from any Hawaii Governor when it’s not an election season?

    The last Governor that seemed interested in UH athletics and it’s development has a tunnel named after him.. And the UH medical school of course.

  322. Da Punchbowl Kid December 8, 2011 4:36 pm

    Da tree. Da tree. Always wit da steenkin’ tree.

  323. RedZone December 8, 2011 4:42 pm

    I was kind of curious so I went and watched a couple of Norm Chow videos. I liked it. I wouldn’t mind him being the coach. I liked when he said, “never hire a friend.”

  324. shorebreak December 8, 2011 4:45 pm

    What caused all the injuries this past year?, were they

    not in condition,out of shape, lacking discipline all that. How many worked like Pilares and Salas?

    Are they working out today? Where’s the dedication

  325. PolyMom December 8, 2011 4:57 pm

    Oh well we can scratch a couple of names off the list. Their new jobs HC for other schools will be announced on Friday. Oh well…..

  326. KDUB808 December 8, 2011 4:58 pm

    Wasn’t that Miano I seen sign waving on Dole St? Enough already, we know you want the job.

  327. wafan December 8, 2011 4:59 pm

    Found the HAWAI’I RAINBOW WAHINE vs. usc game on ESPN3. If you cannot find it for Friday, 12/9, check Saturay, 12/10, 12am EST.

    Go Wahine!


  328. wafan December 8, 2011 5:02 pm


  329. tommui December 8, 2011 5:06 pm

    (Jessie)James #267 – it’s for practice on slip and fall cases

  330. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 5:12 pm

    Wonder if the Governor cares what party affiliation the highest paid State employee will be?

  331. d1shima December 8, 2011 5:15 pm


    No need wait til you hear ’em speak….

    bruddah show up wit his Reyn Spooner tucked in, PAU!

  332. Derek December 8, 2011 5:19 pm

    Maybe Cabral is applying because he has an inkling that the Colorado staff might be fired soon because of their poor season. Another last place finish next year for sure means curtains for Coach Embree and possibly all the assistants. Cabral is a Colorado Bufaloes lifer.

    Does Kurt Gouveia aspire to be a football coach?

    One of the main traits of a very good Head Coach is that he selects very good accomplished assistants. It is a rare skill indeed to assemble a good staff that are on the same page.

  333. Buffoman December 8, 2011 5:26 pm

    Coach Cabral = discipline, structure. I don’t think he’s a guy who takes to slow footed, less than 100% effort. That guy would create some higher level of structure. he has NFL contacts, has the ability ot recruit local and mainland, has mainland ties. Could be a contender if he truly applies.

  334. Buffoman December 8, 2011 5:28 pm

    Cabral could get Chris Naeole to think about coaching o-line. That guy would be an asset in recruiting and also has NFL ties.

  335. Derek December 8, 2011 5:34 pm

    Whoever the new Head Coach, it will be an uphill battle next season. Start on the road at USC, also at BYU on Sept. 29. In between the WAC conference, with Boise St., Air Force, San Diego State, Nevada, Fresno St., etc. etc. There is also Lamar and South Alabama, 2 FCS teams. It does portend for a good season to start. It won’t be easy winning games with Colorado St., UNLV, and New Mexico either.

    People shouldn’t expect too much from the new Head Coach right away because it will be tough. My initial forecast is 5-8 at the best. And, one of the FCS games won’t count towards bowl consideration, thus Hawaii will have to finish at least 7-6 with at least 5 FBS wins.

  336. Not an Expert December 8, 2011 5:39 pm

    How to raise funds for the UH athletics. Easy have a vote on stopping the rail and use $1 billion of that earning 3% a year. That is $30,000 million a year to help fund the programs.

    Only problem this will never fly. I believe though there are more sport fans in Hawaii than people who would ride the rail. We will have traffic no matter what, at least we may have champions to cheer on in different sports, that may help us forget about our traffic woes.

    In addition have a life insurance company partnered with the state to underwrite life insurance. That life company to help give a good discount rate. Tax deductible premiums and lifetime endowments overtime. Must have a systematic way to have continuous enrollment. Small premiums will add up to big donations. This is a long term plan and many of us may not be able to give much while alive but will be able to give a sizeable amount at death. Helping our future sport fans to increase chances of having a winner(s) to cheer on.

  337. Buffoman December 8, 2011 5:42 pm


    Does it make any sense for UH to consider going back to the WAC if at least FSU went with them, USU, SJSU, NMSU, Idaho decided the television deal was better with hte WAC even if it was less than when all the others were in?

    At this point, could they, with ESPN then lure Nevada and UNLV to join making it 8?

    Wouldn’t that then be a stronger conference with a better television deal than MWC?

  338. fuman December 8, 2011 5:57 pm

    Miano or Chow geeez!!!

    I Admire Rich Miano but

    man o man to think we could

    get Chow.Id settle for Rich

    but the thought of Chow

    thats pretty darn exciting!!

  339. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 6:15 pm

    Why do I feel like we are about to become a dinosaur.. a D1 program with a DII coach? Boy do I hope this feeling passes and I’m dead wrong. Sort of like “Keep the Country, Country,” eh?

  340. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 6:17 pm

    Maybe I’m just having withdrawal symptoms… Women’s VB Friday.. that should help some.

  341. Ipu Man December 8, 2011 6:22 pm

    Norm Chow…chow chow…food…ummmm good.

  342. lanaiguy December 8, 2011 6:33 pm

    You tell em Ipu man.

    Rich for HC!!!!!!!!!!!!

  343. Hillmok December 8, 2011 6:45 pm

    I guess in the midst of the interviews the one question they will have to ask..can this person save our football program? Does he posses the ability to bring talent (good talent) despite the obsticles. It

    Is going to take someone with great enthusiasm and belief that selling himself and our program is the primary goal.

  344. A-House December 8, 2011 6:47 pm

    Is there really a true value having “nfl” experience or connections or both?

    Is it like taking a great or best techincian, making he/she a manager, but has very little mangerial skills? leadership skills? communication skills? instructional skills?

    seen too many instances where private companies promote, but the promotee is incapable of being a manager/supervisor.

  345. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 6:49 pm

    Next coach will need a lot of deep, well-developed connections outside of Hawaii to be successful. Otherwise, the pipelines will dry up and we will be in a worst situation than we were at the end of Von Appen’s tenure. Not just for recruits but for assistant coaches and player/coach development programs. Hopefully the new coach will have good, sound relationships with high school and JC coaches in the mainland, too.

  346. anklebiters December 8, 2011 6:50 pm

    I don’t usually agree with Mark May but I have to agree with him on this one……no coach will want to be near ASU with a 10′ pole now….

    To: UH search committee

    Please don’t follow in the footsteps of ASU and mess up royally in your new HC search.

  347. bigislandkurt December 8, 2011 6:50 pm

    Did I just hear that the Sungod applied?

    That might not be a bad thing.


  348. bigislandkurt December 8, 2011 6:54 pm

    Cabral is in fact a CU lifer. I just could not see him invested into the UH program. For even if J. Embree was to be fired in three years, Cabral would be employed well into retirement. He can probably retire from CU already. Yes, he has plucked many a good recruit from Hawaii in the past. I’m one who believes that the new coach should have at least some connection to the program. In some way, shape or form. Chow might be my only exception.


  349. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 7:02 pm

    Jeff Reinbold is an excellent recruiter.

  350. A-House December 8, 2011 7:04 pm

    Was not Sungod involved in the scholarship offered fiasco when JJ left for SMU and cost UH about $40,000 to settle?

  351. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 7:06 pm

    Oops.. Jeff Reinebold … he’s a good age and has 25 years of experience.. yeah.. I could see JR as the new HC.

  352. KeleguenBinadu December 8, 2011 7:14 pm

    Has any of the potential applicants been interviewed by the media about the being Hawaii HC besides Miano and Glanville?

  353. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 7:16 pm


    So we deduct it out of his first pay check.. 😉

  354. Kevin December 8, 2011 7:22 pm

    Someone needs to REALLY explain the man-love for Norm Chow to me. Not on the blog, but like in person and I need a pen and paper and some Monster Energy Drink to stay awake.

    I don’t get it and I am NOT ashamed to say it.

  355. bigislandkurt December 8, 2011 7:24 pm

    Man love for chow. haaaaa. That’s funny.

    Sounds like get some woman love too eh?



  356. bigislandkurt December 8, 2011 7:26 pm

    I think I’ve made it quite clear on the blog……Chow is not my choice. But what da heo do I know? haaaaa. At this point, I’m with the rest of you. We have no fricken idea who the new coach will be.

    Did someone just say that MIANO WAS SIGN WAVING? no way. Please tell me I’m reading it wrong and it aint so.


  357. Kevin December 8, 2011 7:31 pm

    ASU messed up royally?

    No worries, I heard a higher power was involved as apparently June Jones told his team at SMU that he had a “spiritual revelation” as God told him just last night that it was his destiny to be at SMU.

    Apparently God likes to tell Mr. Jones things at the last minute (i.e. see the decision to leave UH) OR after the fact (i.e. see ASU incident).

  358. Ipu Man December 8, 2011 7:36 pm

    Wonder what Tsai will write about tomorrow?

    How about another Tsaiko contest…

  359. Ipu Man December 8, 2011 7:36 pm

    Name that coach…

  360. Ipu Man December 8, 2011 7:38 pm

    for UCLA…

    for ASU…

    for UH…

    for Fresno…

  361. Kevin December 8, 2011 7:45 pm

    Miano sign waving??? Is he a few steps near falling off the edge and joining the beloved Tom Berg in lala land?????? 😯

  362. 808Bowler December 8, 2011 7:48 pm

    Bleacher report ranks the hc job at hawaii 10th best out of 14 openings. worst then arkansas state. reasons mostly due to recruiting hardships.

  363. 808Bowler December 8, 2011 7:53 pm

    Memphis, North Carolina, and Umass found their head coaches.

  364. PolyMom December 8, 2011 7:54 pm

    Okay now I can say after midnight east coast time…Dino Babers new head coach at Eastern Michigan. So proud of Dino. Another former Warrior making it big time. Mazel Dino!

  365. PolyMom December 8, 2011 7:57 pm

    Bigislandkurt, with Chow you get big time name recognition! Kids actually want to play for him!!!

    Who else developed 5 Heisman Trophy winners.

    CAM no listen to the haters!

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  367. Iwonderwhytheyhateme December 8, 2011 8:13 pm

    If Chow is hired, where would he get his assistants?

    Keep some of the current staff?

  368. oneseason December 8, 2011 8:18 pm

    Has the justification for UH seeking the 5-working day waiver been released?

  369. Bleed Green and White December 8, 2011 8:33 pm

    I’m sorry, Norm Chow, really? That’s so 1996, I mean c’mon, really?

    Brian Cabral, well, no disrespect, but he’s been gone from Hawaii for so long that’s he now a Colorado native isn’t he…?

    Ivin Jasper, great young man when he played for UH, well documented rise in the college football coaching ranks, well deserved respect as OC at Navy, but to be honest, I, for one, DO NOT want to see that offense return to Hawaii.

    I would have to give up my 6 seasons tickets.

    Again, no disrespect, but I’m just not a fan of running 45-50 times a game.

    Glanville, wait, let me stop laughing and get serious. That dude never called any of our players by their names, used only numbers, never tried to fit in or respect the local ways, been there done PLEASE let’s not go there again.

    Miano, seemingly good guy, he has put in his time, but in my opinion, before anybody can be head coach, he / she should at least have been a coordinator first. I’d like to judge with all responsibility and accountability on his shoulders.

    Plus, in Miano’s tenure @ UH, have we really ever had a decent secondary?

  370. FattyMcButterpants December 8, 2011 8:38 pm

    # 359 Could someone get that “higher power” to give a 5 star QB” a spiritual revelation” that it is his destiny to be at UH?

  371. al December 8, 2011 8:49 pm

    367…boy are you wearing your buff n blue today. haha.

  372. kev-1 December 8, 2011 8:56 pm

    #371 . . . feeling that post. Throw in Reinbold. Not sure why people are so high on him either. I am still waffling on Miano though. COMPLETELY agree with your take on Glanville. Some thought Mack had a disconnect, Glanville was 10 times worse. NOT a fan of the triple option at all. Not to say that Jasper won’t succeed with it, just not for me.

  373. jm2375 December 8, 2011 8:57 pm

    IIRC, a couple of the years that Glanville was DC, the defense was ranked at the bottom nationally. That, and the fact that he never bothered to learn the players’ names (at least publicly), makes me say NO to JG.

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  377. Kekoa December 8, 2011 9:21 pm

    Enuff about coaches, players, conference musical chairs and selection peeps. Time to move on to a different venue.

    I’ve got my escape route running right thru the ‘Blaze’ arena tomorrow nite. Time to *Fly Like An Eagle*get lost in a little Rock ‘n Roll with the Steve Miller Band..

    Peace Warrior Fans…take a time out from all the turmoil and enjoy the reason for the season.

    Happy Holidays!


  378. gmahoney December 8, 2011 9:26 pm

    Kekoa, Donna, some other friends and I saw Steve Miller Band at the Crater a few years ago. What a showman! Some young’uns were rockin’. Glad he is appealing to the younger crowd, a new generation of jokers, smokers and midnight tokers! Enjoy!

  379. Old Diver December 8, 2011 9:34 pm

    It’s my understanding that when we were running the spread offense the players just hated it.

  380. KeleguenBinadu December 8, 2011 9:36 pm

    When did we run the spread offense?

  381. Kekoa December 8, 2011 9:37 pm

    gmahoney ~ Diana and I scored some great seats at the arena. It’ll be a nice break from all the smoke that’s been blowing thru our clubhouse.

  382. rb December 8, 2011 9:57 pm

    I wonder if the local recruits parents who are of that

    age that remember Chows acomplishments would

    then encourage their kids to stay home and play for uh.

  383. kev-1 December 8, 2011 10:04 pm

    rb . . . that is an intersting point to bring up. People have been excited about Chow because he is a big name. But what people need to realize is “who is he a name to?” Do high school recruits think as highly of Chow as their parents do? Possibly, I’m not sure. I have been reading up on him because his name is being thrown around. He sure has done a lot. But we do live in a “what have you done for me lately” society.

    I guess bottom line . . . if the Punahou Mafia (really? is that what we call them?) wants him, they will get him. Right?

  384. Chee! December 8, 2011 10:24 pm

    Glanville – his defense @ hawaii, sub-par; entertaining speaker but not (island) cultured and possibly perceived as disrespectful….

  385. homey ℞ December 8, 2011 10:27 pm

    Life in Hawaii…Pipeline Masters…AWESOME!

    Go to the beach people. Let those who can, make the decisions.

    Goodnight. Sweet Wahine VB dreams…

  386. Da Punchbowl Kid December 8, 2011 10:32 pm

    Glad Kekoa finally posted.

    I was about to send the Mounties after him. Maybe one o’ them St. Bernard rescue dogs with the lil keg around its neck.

  387. Da Punchbowl Kid December 8, 2011 10:33 pm

    And homey, too!

  388. al December 8, 2011 10:43 pm

    well, those one week las vegas vacations are history.

  389. PolyMom December 8, 2011 10:43 pm

    @iwondetwhytheyhateme–Norm Chow is so respected in the biz, he would have no problems finding Assistants.

    Like I said, you know anyone else who developed five Heisman winners? If we want to play ball with the big boys, then we have to hire a big guy in the business. To the poster who said what has he done, can you p,ease google. Really…have some respect for someone who is so respected in the football business. My Lord.

  390. al December 8, 2011 10:47 pm

    watching the new Mexico st and tulane reruns…couldn’t remember who won. it’s been that kind of season.

  391. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 10:52 pm

    yep… if one word is used to describe this season.. it is.. “disconnect”…

  392. Liz Kauai (macbook) December 8, 2011 10:57 pm

    Enjoy the concert, Kekoa and QD!!!

  393. Hawaiian December 8, 2011 10:59 pm

    Rich Miano did not call the defensive plays! Do not give him credit for something he did not have control over! With what he had…He made the most of it! He had his share of ALL-WAC defensive backs…go research it from 1999 to 2011…you’ll be surprised!

  394. madeinhawaii December 8, 2011 11:05 pm

    Finally got a new monitor and I just realized that the color of the print here is not black but more of a dark purplish color. I thought my monitor adjustments were off.

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  396. Slugger December 8, 2011 11:09 pm

    AnnodahLiz & her sister got to watch the Billabong competition at the North Shore today.

    A-Liz wants to thank everyone for welcoming her & her sister, sharing all of that good food. Betty’s mochi recipe is an inspiration! Lily is going to make some as soon as she gets home.

    We’ll see some of you at the VB game!


  397. Not an Expert December 8, 2011 11:22 pm

    Air Force staying in the MWC. Maybe the High Brass influence wanting Air Force to play in Hawaii again, every 2 years.

  398. papajoe2 December 8, 2011 11:32 pm

    4 huzzit?

  399. Kekoa December 8, 2011 11:43 pm

    Mahalo Liz ~ Too much sadness in our lives lately.

    Along with the loss of our very dear friend, John, It certainly brought us all back into revealing the treasured memories of our best bud.

    RIP John Collins.

    G’nite all…

  400. SteveM December 8, 2011 11:46 pm


    …and I hope ST is stealthily flying overhead and ready to drop another coach bomb on his old blog site here… 🙂

  401. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 9, 2011 12:12 am

    Did Jim Leavitt apply for the UH job?

  402. 99club December 9, 2011 1:32 am


    I like the idea, but would Leavitt leave SF while on a possible SB run? Neat website…thanks for the link.

  403. wafan December 9, 2011 3:19 am

    Happy Aloha Friday, coach seekers and speculators!

  404. wafan December 9, 2011 4:05 am

    Thanks, Mr. Tsai, for leaving the door to the club house open.

  405. wafan December 9, 2011 4:10 am

    Go Wahine!

  406. newbie December 9, 2011 4:13 am

    hello. Im a lurker. just wanted to put in my 2 cents. Why would anyone want Glanville anyway. He failed at an FCS school Portland State, he is not good enough for us. Period. Norm Chow – he hasnt been a ‘local boy’ for a really long time and he’s never really done anything for local athletes. He has hardly put his foot in hawaii for recruiting and he’s had plenty opportunity. So would he recruit local or would he recruit Cali and Tx first, then locally 2nd, and ask all the local boys to walk on like Mack and JJ did.

  407. VonAppen December 9, 2011 5:06 am

    When Chow was on top of the world he wanted nothing to do with the job. Now that the has slid down the mountain from his HC desires ….he is interested?

    None of the names that have been mentioned are even been close to the complete package Miano brings to the table… for the salary being mentioned.

    Miano has paid his dues and NOW is the time for Hawaii to give him a shot to realize his dream.

  408. Wes'side Warrior December 9, 2011 5:18 am

    Good morning, coach campaigners and speculationists! (Sorry, just felt like making up a word, for no real reason.)

    Do we have a list yet of all 100+ (j/k) applicants? Anyone check the circular files in the office to see if any applications have been *filed* yet?

    Oh man! Steve Miller Band! That had to have been a blast! Good to go to a concert once in a while where we actually know words to the songs, and those songs can take us back in time to a simpler, less chaotic moment of our lives.

    Go, Wahine!!!

  409. LKT1832 December 9, 2011 5:44 am

    Future warriors from Kapolei in the Pop Warner Super Bowl.

  410. WarriorNY December 9, 2011 6:13 am

    Hey all,

    There were two records that I thought were most impressive by Colt Brennan. His QB rating in 2006 (185) was the highest in NCAA history for one season. His touchdowns (58) that year is also tops in NCAA history. Although his touchdowns on one season record is still intact, it looks like his QB rating will fall this year. It looks like his QB rating will fall this year to RG3 of Baylor. This is one of those records that did not get much publicity but was probably most indicative of how great he played that year. I hope ST, writes something about it like he did with Chang’s yardage record. In my opinion Colt’s 185 QB rating was the most far more impressive.

  411. VonAppen December 9, 2011 6:15 am

    Head Coach= motivator, organizer, head recruiter, great pr man, establishes the right connections, can SELL the program, front man for the program, Bleeds Green, players will walk over hot coals for da man.

    Great coaches recognize great talent and potential in others.

    Great coaches have integrity and character.

    Great coaches know how to get the best out of people.

    Great coaches build relationships with people.

    Great coaches know their methodology and system and they don’t apologize for it.

    Great coaches understand how to build a program, tradition and legacy.

    Great coaches focus on the big picture.

    Great coaches have a healthy perspective of competition.

    Great coaches can change a person, program and culture.

    Great coaches are great leaders.

    Great coaches are people others gravitate towards and want to play for.

    Great coaches think and act quickly and are aware of what’s going on.

    Great coaches are hard workers and get the job done.

    Great coaches are organized and detailed.

    Great coaches love to strategize and implement.

    Great coaches love what they do and who they coach.

    Great coaches adapt and change easily.

    Great coaches do their best work when nobody is looking.

    Great coaches are prepared and have a plan.

    Great coaches are great motivators.

    Great coaches manage complexity well.

    Great coaches look forward to the challenge and competition.

    Great coaches affirm and encourage those they coach.

    Great coaches aren’t afraid of conflict.

    Great coaches care about the whole person and all that they do.

    Great coaches never stop coaching.

    Great coaches are great teachers.

    Great coaches are disciplined and focused.

    Great coaches give credit and success to others.

    Great coaches aren’t threatened by the success of others.

    Chow or Miano? The best fit?

    Not even close

    Don’t step back in time and hire another fossil!


  412. Old School Dave December 9, 2011 6:18 am

    “Hugh Yoshida said that I asked too many questions.”

    What Norm Chow said after his interview for the UH head coaching job in 1995. When he found out that another applicant, Fred von Appen, was staying at Yoshida’s house during his visit here, Chow saw the writing on the wall.

  413. d1shima December 9, 2011 6:43 am

    Great Morning All!

    One word: Riverdance! 🙂

  414. d1shima December 9, 2011 6:47 am

    TCU OC is Memphis’ new hire; getting $900k/yr

    University of Memphis President Dr. Shirley C. Raines today announced that Justin Fuente has been hired as the 23rd head football coach for the Memphis Tigers in a press conference held at the Penny Hardaway Hall of Fame Assembly Room on the U of M campus.

    Fuente has agreed to a five-year contract with guaranteed compensation of $900,000 in 2012. The contract also calls for incentive compensation based on performance.

  415. d1shima December 9, 2011 6:47 am

    …the price of poker

  416. d1shima December 9, 2011 7:00 am

    Kapolei Titans claim Pop Warner Pee Wee Division National Runner-up.

    Fall to Jensen Beach, 8-24.

    Congratulations boys.

  417. papajoe2 December 9, 2011 7:08 am

    If that’s Freddy, there goes all the work that Miano has done.

  418. papajoe2 December 9, 2011 7:10 am

    d1shima, I can Riverdance.

  419. d1shima December 9, 2011 7:19 am


  420. LizKauai (iPad) December 9, 2011 7:27 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

  421. Old School Dave December 9, 2011 7:28 am

    Maybe too fossilized mentality, but I’d like to see a coaching and staff that emphasizes fundamentally sound blocking and tackling. This has been a major weak point over the years. Poor pass and run blocking. Terrible tackling techniques (not wrapping up), too much grabbing, missed tackles. NFL type of practices is fine for the NFL, but this is college ball with players that need to develop. Tuesday, Wednesdays, and Thursdays should be grinding practices, IMHO. Your practices need to be harder than games. Maybe too old school.

    From this, you can develop a certain level of physicality that has been lacking from UH Football from years past. Used to hear stories during the Tomey years of opposing teams that had players being helped on to the plane after playing UH. Regardless of the final score, they knew that they’d been in a game.

  422. FattyMcButterpants December 9, 2011 7:33 am

    # 403 Jon Gruden likes him, pushing Leavitt to ASU

  423. Old School Dave December 9, 2011 7:44 am

    Didn’t Leavitt get fired at USF after he choked a player during practice. He’d fit in fine at the program Frank Kush built -another “hands on” coach.

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