Forcier to visit Hawaii

Former Michigan quarterback Tate Forcier said he will be taking an official recruiting visit to Hawaii next week. He said he spoke with UH head coach Greg McMackin for an hour today, and the trip will be arranged after he sends his transcripts.

Forcier said he has family in Hawaii, and that he is impressed with the Warriors’ history of giving second chances to players.

He also has an interest in San Jose State and Nevada. “Hawaii will be my first visit,” he said. “Maybe it will be my last.”

He said he wants to make a decision this month.

Forcier will have to sit out the 2011 season in accordance with NCAA transfer rules. After that, he will have two years to play two seasons.

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Thank you to coach Greg McMackin, video coordinator Chris Williams and Heather McMackin for hosting last night’s chat and tour.

Among the topics:

• Samson Anguay will undergo surgery to repair a torn ACL in his right knee. He is expected to miss the 2011 season, leaving him with four years to play four seasons. (Because the injury occurred during the offseason, he could petition for an extra year if he misses another season because of an injury.) Anguay was projected to be the No. 1 punt returner this year.

• Scott Harding, Tank Hopkins and Mike Edwards are the leading contenders for the now vacant punt returner’s job.

• The Warriors will continue to use the wedge formation — three back blockers — on punts, only this time punter Alex Dunnachie will be allowed to boom away. On the other side, the Warriors will now emphasize blocking punts.

• Special teams coordinator Dick Tomey is meeting with other coaches across the country, including Virginia Tech’s Frank Beamer,  to share special team techniques and schemes.

• For the 2012 recruiting class, UH would like to sign two quarterbacks. The preference would be for one to be a freshman, the other an experienced quarterback, such as a JC player or transfer.

• The Warriors are  seeking a way to ease the end-of-the-year academic crunch. Because of finals and school projects, the Warriors admittedly missed too many practices leading to last year’s Hawaii Bowl. McMackin said the missed practice time by starters contributed to broken assignments that factored in three interceptions against Tulsa.

• There is a possibility former defensive tackle Tuika Tufaga will receive an internship as a recruiting assistant.

• After a one-year hiatus, the Pigskin Pigout returns. It is scheduled for Thursday, Aug. 25 at Murphy’s.

• The new uniforms will feature a special material intended to keep the hamstring area warm during games.

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From Serenda Valdez (via Brian McInnis):

Aunty Sandy Kim passed away. She worked many, many years in UH athletics and touched an unbelievable amount of student-athletes, coaches, staff etc. She was Mrs. Aloha to all. Many of the kids would sit in her office and talk story with Aunty Sandy. She made the athletes feel like ohana. Services are this Friday at 5 p.m. at Borthwick.


  1. Dennis Halloran July 7, 2011 6:51 am

    Love the uniform hammy idea

  2. Stretch July 7, 2011 6:54 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!

    Thanks to Coach Mack, Mrs Mack and Chris Williams.

    For those who were not there last night, we also discussed his contract and a certain QB recruit. If you really want to know what he said…..

  3. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 6:54 am


    Of course, I think the hammy patch need a better nickname than “skid marks.”

  4. myki July 7, 2011 6:58 am

    brought over


    July 7th, 2011 at 6:53 am

    ‘morning all!

    Thanks Stephen for arranging that chat last night. It was great seeing all of you again. Many thanks to Coach, Heather and Chris for taking time out of their busy schedules to spend their precious time with us.

    Have a great day.

  5. bigislandkurt July 7, 2011 6:59 am

    Warmth for my hammy!


  6. bigislandkurt July 7, 2011 7:00 am

    “two QB’s in 2012, one an experienced transfer.”

    I guess I can still keep my hopes up for that one kid that left Michigan! haaaaaaa

    Aloha Tsaikos — Happy Thursday!


  7. jm2375 July 7, 2011 7:02 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Sounds like it was a very informative and fun session last night.

    Hope Samson Anguay will get another year.

    Hiho. Busy day. Tomorrow is my class reunion. Gotta bake cookies tonight. Yikes.

  8. A-joe July 7, 2011 7:02 am

    Gmorning gang!

    ST- Any pics or topics of conversation from last night’s shindig?

  9. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 7:05 am


    Well, Koakane did use the private bathroom …

  10. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 7:16 am

    According to the tweets, Greg Salas and Kealoha Pilares have just finished the run up Koko Head.

  11. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 7:16 am

    Hi gang!

    My pictures of last night’s Chat with Mike have been posted on my blog.

    Click on my name to view the pics.

  12. chopsueyboy July 7, 2011 7:16 am

    Good Morning Tsai-kos!

    Mahalo Stephen and Coach Mack

    Enjoyed last night Q & A.

  13. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 7:17 am

    ST, I thought we were told to keep the topics covered a secret, so I just mentioned on my blog innocuous stuff that everybody already knows.

  14. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 7:18 am

    RE: Koko Head.

    The hard part is coming down because there are no hand rails, I was told by my daughter.

  15. chopsueyboy July 7, 2011 7:21 am


    Mahalo for the photos. I’m in green sitting in front of you.

  16. Slugger July 7, 2011 7:22 am

    Good morning, gang!

    ST ~ Thanks for the quick rundown on the scoops from last night.

    I guessed right about the uniform leg panels. Makes sense to keep the hamstring muscles warm.

  17. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 7:22 am


    When ESPN is going to televise a UH game, UH does that trick by saying if a certain number of tickets aren’t sold, the game will be blacked out. Thing is, ESPN doesn’t black out any games in local markets because it figures most of the viewers will come from those areas.

    Same concept. I just didn’t want anyone blogging during the chat.

  18. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 7:28 am


    Well, I don’t remember seeing your face! lol.


  19. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 7:31 am

    #17. ST, that is news to me.

    I thought that was a legitimate ultimatum and did not realize it was a trick.

  20. Stretch July 7, 2011 7:33 am

    gigi – if you went around and introduced yourself to everyone, you would have met a lot of new people.

  21. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 7:40 am

    Stretch, yeah, I guess so!

    It was fortuitous that we bumped into ST downstairs, because if not, David and I would never have been able to find the conference room.

    Who knew it was located on the THIRD floor?

  22. chopsueyboy July 7, 2011 7:49 am


    you are not alone, I saw ST too outside and he escorted me upstairs through the maze

  23. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 7:57 am

    Mahalo to Al for his note and gift certificate.

    Totally unexpected.

    Thanks again, Al.

  24. BG July 7, 2011 7:58 am

    Good morning folks! Gotta get ready to catch the bus into town…bbl

  25. Da Punchbowl Kid July 7, 2011 7:58 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂

    Great chat with the Coach. Thanks Coach, Heather and Mr. Tsai.

    Its interesting to see your take-aways from the chat, Tsai, you covered it nicely and I didn’t see you taking any notes.

    Coach continues to impress as a very fatherly presence, the fact that he and Heather were high school sweet hearts is also a nice side story.

    Really enjoyed Chris Williams’ video presntation.

  26. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 7:58 am


    David and I will try to visit Petals & Beans this Saturday.

    Looking forward to meeting you then.

  27. Da Punchbowl Kid July 7, 2011 8:00 am

    “• For the 2012 recruiting class, UH would like to sign two quarterbacks. The preference would be for one to be a freshman, the other an experienced quarterback, such as a JC player or transfer.”

    Nuff said.

  28. chopsueyboy July 7, 2011 8:02 am


    Hope I’m in the shop, sometimes go out on deliveries,

    Ms. Petals will be in I’m not there.

    We’re probably the only florist/coffee shop with a large “Fathead” UH helmet on the wall.

  29. al July 7, 2011 8:04 am

    you are welcome gigi.

  30. al July 7, 2011 8:04 am

    dpk…horses not quarterbacks.

  31. al July 7, 2011 8:08 am

    thanks stephen, mack, and heather for spending a couple of hours or so with us. appreciate the candidness of your responses and none were dodged.

  32. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 8:22 am

    Last night was a great event. Great offices and conference room. Glad the renovations were done.

    Coach Mack is very down to earth and personable. Got some good info into his philosophy on recruits and those 2nd chance players. Couldn’t have agreed with him any more.

    Hopefully next year we can have another one of these too.

    Thanks again to all.

  33. duffer July 7, 2011 8:28 am

    So al I hope that certificate wasn’t for Tiffany’s

  34. warriorsun July 7, 2011 8:33 am

    punt returners in 2011–harding , hopkins or edwards? interesting array of returners with no experience.

  35. warriorsun July 7, 2011 8:35 am

    dunnachie will be allowed to boom away?

    isnt that what most punters are allowed to do?

  36. jeezy33 July 7, 2011 8:35 am

    JC QB would be a huge waste of scholarship in my opinion. If Graves, Shutter, or Spain aren’t ready to go by next season, then that would mean we did a horrible job recruiting QBs if a JC guy can come in that quickly and beat them out. I am optimistic one of those 3 will be able to handle the job though so I prefer not offering a JC QB to ride the pine for 2 seasons. Now if a guy like Tate Forcier becomes available, then we are talking about a different story and a guy who could possibly take UH to the next level and win a MWC title.

  37. warriorsun July 7, 2011 8:41 am

    best news=tomey meeting with beamer.

    if anyone can teach an old dawg new tricks, dick can learn from frank.

    …and that is saying something.

  38. warriorsun July 7, 2011 8:52 am

    i can think of several to audition for punt returner with return experience, field vision, quick feet and acceleration–including soph allen sampson.

  39. d1shima (Aria'd) July 7, 2011 8:59 am


    As Coach Mack pointed out last night once the upcoming season is done the next QB1 needs to be ready next Spring, not in the fall.

    This will be a very interesting fall camp.

  40. Da Punchbowl Kid July 7, 2011 9:04 am

    I feel like the usual excitement of fall camp has been ratcheted up a couple of notches… glad I went to the chat.

  41. blahblah July 7, 2011 9:09 am

    Tate Forcier to visit Hawaii next week

  42. chopsueyboy July 7, 2011 9:10 am

    Still watching replays from dvr and recorded dvd.

    Ready for some live Warrior football at Aloha & Huskie Stadium

  43. seasider July 7, 2011 9:11 am

    While recovering from his ACL surgery, this 2011 season will be his redshirt year.

    Per Tsai “Because the injury occurred during the offseason, he could petition for an extra year if he misses another season because of an injury”.

    At this point, Anquay has no reason to petition for another year.

  44. souljah July 7, 2011 9:12 am

    too late, my bad

  45. seasider July 7, 2011 9:13 am

    #43 is in response to #7

  46. Da Punchbowl Kid July 7, 2011 9:13 am

    Thank you blahblah, for kicking it up another couple of notches… 😉

  47. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 9:16 am


    It means they’re done with directional kicks.

  48. seasider July 7, 2011 9:17 am


    CO “mighty mouse” had no experience when his name was called, but he was dynamite from the get go.

  49. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 9:18 am

    The way the coverage worked last year, they aimed for a rectangle near the sideline. Now they’ll boom away and let the coverage attack zones.

  50. warriorsun July 7, 2011 9:18 am


    i believe ST was alluding to a sixth year if anquay misses another year due to injury.

    it doesnt appear important at this date, but down the road u never know. anquay needs to keep all his original records on file. we have lost good players who petitioned the ncaa for a sixth year bc of bad record keeping.

  51. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 9:19 am


    The key is for Anguay to document this injury fully.

    That was a problem with Brashton Satele’s first injury.

  52. mctruck July 7, 2011 9:19 am

    Thanks, Tanks, thankuverymuch!!!, and blahblablah.

  53. Manoa Mist July 7, 2011 9:21 am

    Okay so if the faux skid marks keep the hammy warm with a special material, why not make the entire pants uniform of that material and keep the quads, groin and buttocks nice and toasty too?

  54. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 9:21 am


    I’ve known Mack for 12 years, so I have an understanding of when he’s trying to say something without actually saying it.

    For instance, he pointed out that he is not allowed to talk about players the Warriors are recruiting. (Conversely, he is allowed to talk about players they are not recruiting.) So when it was asked if UH is pursuing a player from a BCS school, such as Michigan, he said he could not comment on recruiting. Thus …

  55. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 9:24 am


    Mack also inferred that money was not a concern for his next contract, but he wanted to make sure his assistants would receive raises.

    It’s a valid point. If a head coach takes a reduction, will the money be redistributed within the coaching staff?

  56. kawika49 July 7, 2011 9:26 am

    #54 Hot buns, add to core temperatue and hot nuts can lead to low sperm count.

  57. warriorsun July 7, 2011 9:26 am


    yes, yes, i realize that. thank you.

    i guess i was mocking the instruction by our former ST coach.

    why bring in a 6-6 stallion from aussieland to run the derby if you r going to train him to be a plow-horse?

    heck, anybody can kick 35 yarders.

    directional kicking is part of the game. so is putting a muffler on the boom-boom when close to the redzone. but, to make it THE game is a waste of talent if you got the leg-whip to orbit the pigskin.

  58. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 9:28 am

    Manoa Mist:

    Sounds like a good idea.

    Then again, I’m a conspiracist when it comes to marketing. I believe the cell phone companies already have developed a 6G but are time-releasing it to get us to keep buying upgrades in increments. I just don’t think it’s a coincidence the next great electronic device was invented around the holiday shopping season.

  59. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 9:29 am


    You’re absolutely right.

    Why drive in the wrong gear?

  60. d1shima (Aria'd) July 7, 2011 9:33 am

    …and there is already a QB here who was anticipated to contend for a starting WAC job this season.

  61. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 9:37 am


    Good job. Thanks.

  62. mcb July 7, 2011 9:38 am

    per espn’s joe schad, tate forcier visiting hawaii next week

  63. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 9:38 am

    By the way, “Hubby” is a nice guy.

    And Gigi-Hawaii is really shy in person.

  64. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 9:38 am

    Thanks, mcb.

    I’ll post that at the top.

  65. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 9:47 am

    ST, huh?

  66. warriorsun July 7, 2011 9:48 am

    #60. ST, funny-stuff, bingo!

    which raises another concern i have about tomeyisms and special teams.

    once upon a time when dick was leading a resurrgent program in the sandwhich isles, he had a kicker who could put it into the back of the endzone on kickoffs. but tomey would overplay his strategy and get greedy. he ordered the kicker to place the ball in the coffin corner near the goal-flag, betting his return D would prevent the return team from reaching the twenty. it was gallant, but arrogant. we got burned more than once. nothing wrong with the return team starting from its twenty-yardline.

    i hope the senior tomey remains as daring but plays the percentages too. lol.

    that being said, im excited to see coach tomey back in the fold at hawaii and if anyone can make a mark on special teams–dick tomey is the man–i dont care if he is in a wheel chair–coach inspires his players to perform above-their-head.

  67. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 9:48 am

    I was kind of embarrassed by my stupid, naive questions.

    But, Mack thanked me for my “good” questions… twice.

    I guess he didn’t hear people groaning when I uttered them.

  68. warriorsun July 7, 2011 9:50 am


  69. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 9:51 am

    What did you guys think of the humongous but masculine WAC Championship Ring?

    Awesome, man!

  70. papajoe2 July 7, 2011 9:53 am

    Wasn’t it announced that Tate committed to Maimi?

  71. papajoe2 July 7, 2011 9:55 am

    gigi. And what were those questions?

  72. al July 7, 2011 9:55 am

    36…might i remind you that the following qb’s spent time with jc programs before making a huge splash in manoa.

    nick rolovich

    colt brennan

    greg alexander

    bryant moniz

    oh, and a guy like forcier should be grouped in the same category of transfers whether it be jc or d1. they all come with limited time left on the eligibility clock. but, typically we’d go after a guy who is physically and mentally able to assume the position with minimal indoctrination.

  73. haka July 7, 2011 9:56 am

    Don Murphy is THE MAN!


    Go Warriors!

  74. al July 7, 2011 9:57 am

    34…they’ve all had previous experience at different levels but with excelling results. harding for example.

    also, mack did say that chinedu ahmadi would also compete.

  75. al July 7, 2011 10:00 am

    lacking experience as a justification to downplay a potential candidate for say; punt returner is rather absurd don’t you think?

    somewhere along the line one must initiate his experience to be experienced otherwise, then we’d have no one qualified by your standard.

  76. warriorsun July 7, 2011 10:02 am

    tate forcier is taking on-line courses? lol. that ought to motivate the bean counters in our admissions department.

  77. Slugger July 7, 2011 10:06 am

    Condolences to Aunty Sandy’s ‘ohana.

  78. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 10:09 am

    Not sure if any of you ever had a chance to meet Auntie Sandy, but she was a wonderful woman.

    She was Leon Schumaker’s administrative assistant in what used to be known as just “academics,” although that entailed compliance, eligibility, housing, etc. Leon and Sandy were great in helping players register for classes and secure dorm rooms, which isn’t as easy as it sounds.

    Leon died earlier this year.

  79. al July 7, 2011 10:09 am

    for a long time now i have been reading the subliminal messages from rolo, mack, st, and from other little birdies. perhaps now many will take my word that the tate forcier romance is at a serious stage.

    again last night many more subliminal messages came from the head cheese himself. as st pointed out there were many of these inklings sprinkling across the table.

  80. warriorsun July 7, 2011 10:10 am

    al, get off ur high horse.

    edwards has been out a year, hasnt returned a punt since highschool and harding is just learning his football stance. does he have certified field vision? tank hopkins?

    without the low-fat sweetners, what kind of preview to do you expect from an objective point-of-view?

    btw, u did a great job of naming the QBs who succeeded, can u name the cant-miss QBs we recruited, who bombed? it’s still a roll-of-the-die and the odds are less than 50-50.

  81. Da Punchbowl Kid July 7, 2011 10:15 am

    Football is in the air! 🙂

  82. al July 7, 2011 10:17 am

    wsun…i don’t care to ride horses but do so to appease the boss.

    anyway, all i am saying is why put down the pr candidates before they even get on the field. give them a break brother.

    harding we were told did return kicks for a living in australia. although a different game, he still fielded punts and ko’s regularly.

    edwards and hopkins did so in the past like anguay did at campbell. my point was not to make fun of you, but, to say give these guys a chance. otherwise, you look down the bench and who else do we have. perhaps one of them will be the next chad owens.

    and yes, recruiting is a roll the dice “art form” and not only for qb’s. but, i’d rather not mention the failures…not my style.

  83. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 10:17 am

    I’m pretty sure Pollard will get a shot at returning kickoffs, if he is interested in doing that.

  84. warriorsun July 7, 2011 10:19 am

    I mentioned, heretofore, allen sampson as a prospect to return punts. there are several others in the cupboard. sampson returned kicks last year as a true frosh and looked tentative. he displayed confidence in the spring game and that comes with experience and maturity. tomey will find someone. and yes, he’ll audition all-comers.

  85. Kevin July 7, 2011 10:19 am

    A big MAHALO to ST and Coach Mack, Heather McMackin, and Chris Williams for accomodating us last night.

    And the new football wing, while not comparable to the USCs and the Floridas (since many like to compare), is a BIG step up in the right direction.

  86. Kevin July 7, 2011 10:20 am


    Something else is in the air and it smells of pilau arrogance.

    Things NEVER change.

  87. al July 7, 2011 10:20 am

    actually the last time we went horseback riding the horse was a big one and he stood way high. i guess they match the size of the horse to the size of the rider.

    the ride was 95 minutes. by the time we got back to the stable my legs were locked down upon the horses girth. so yah, i had a hard time getting off my high horse.

    true story.

  88. al July 7, 2011 10:22 am

    thats what i am saying…lets give them a chance before they even audition.

  89. al July 7, 2011 10:22 am

    st…mack did say that pollard is in the mix.

  90. Couch potato July 7, 2011 10:23 am

    horses, mules, donkeys, jack-asses, the world is full of them.

  91. warriorsun July 7, 2011 10:26 am

    al, you need to be fair and balanced–like fox tv. lol.

    seriousily, though, this is not an ego thing with me. sorry, i dont take exception to opposing views unless it is blatant…. im just pointing out the facts.

    we are previewing not judging. u need to know that and place it in proper perspective.

    u want to be positive–go for it, but not at the expense of someone else who is objective.

    let ur statements fall on its merit or non-merit. readers can make up their own minds.

  92. Couch potato July 7, 2011 10:27 am

    “I was kind of embarrassed by my stupid, naive questions..

    that made me laugh. same-o same-o. 😆

  93. Couch potato July 7, 2011 10:30 am

    ummmm, Mack is the one who brought up the names of the punt return auditioners. al is just reinforcing and supporting the coach’s statements. got a problem then bring it to Mack’s attention. i’m sure he will listen to your advice.

  94. warriorsun July 7, 2011 10:30 am

    what diifference does it make if we as fans give them a chance? it wont change outcome.

    fans dont decide who or what.

    you wish to support their efforts, that is another formula. im saying my expectations, at this point, aint high. and that doesnt mean i dont want them to succeed. geeez, al, where did u learn reason?

  95. LizKauai -iPad July 7, 2011 10:31 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

    gigi-as you have discovered, Coach Mack is a real HC – conducting business like an executive CEO- including fielding questions from all kinds of folks.

  96. A-House July 7, 2011 10:31 am

    Have you ever seen a rider on a mature horse with his feet touching or dragging on the ground?

    Saw that on Niihau in 1953.

  97. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 10:32 am

    Liz, too bad you weren’t there.

    Only 4 female Tsaikos attended.

  98. Couch potato July 7, 2011 10:33 am

    don’t all horses feet touch the ground? pegasus?

  99. warriorsun July 7, 2011 10:34 am


    where in the rules does it say someone with an opinion on this blogsite must consult with mac? how many fans would that promote?

    some of you guys are in left field without a glove.

  100. LizKauai -iPad July 7, 2011 10:34 am

    Aunty Sandy Kim- God Bless and Heavenly Consolation to her family.

    Yea! No mo IV. Going home soon!

  101. Couch potato July 7, 2011 10:35 am

    ahhhh, opinions, that’s all they are. so why shoot down someone’s opinions and make like yours is the bestest?

  102. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 10:35 am

    yay, Liz! going home.

    when do you return to the office?

  103. al July 7, 2011 10:36 am

    niihau…hau did you pull that off?

  104. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 10:37 am

    Forcier texted me. Said he’ll call me “in twenty.”

    Minutes? Weeks? Months?

  105. al July 7, 2011 10:38 am

    i guess i’ll have to go back to first grade and retake all those reading comprehension courses that i fell asleep on.

  106. al July 7, 2011 10:39 am

    …and some of us are in the nose bleed section all by themselves.

  107. warriorsun July 7, 2011 10:43 am

    #102. u r presuming and have a complex. not my probklem. i nva said my opinion was the “bestest”.

    #106, al, c’mon, u can do better than that. im not saying ur stupid–geez, there u go again off on a tangent. keep it together and pax…

  108. Couch potato July 7, 2011 10:45 am

    23.1% of people in Hawaii are obese. that’s good to know when ordering the fall and winter fashions at Macy’s.

  109. Couch potato July 7, 2011 10:46 am

    w-sun, you don’t have to say your opinion is the bestest. so obvious.

  110. warriorsun July 7, 2011 10:53 am

    spuds, u need help. but if u want to gang-bang to rev-up ur sorry self-esteem, be my guest.

  111. Couch potato July 7, 2011 10:55 am

    nah, i don’t need help, but looks like you need your blankie.

  112. Da Punchbowl Kid July 7, 2011 10:55 am

    Two words: Dick Tomey. He’ll be coaching special teams and that would include kick returners.

    Dick Tomey – take that to the bank!

  113. SteveM July 7, 2011 10:57 am

    Good morning everyone!

  114. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 11:04 am

    Keep it pleasant, guys!

    Take your fight somewhere else.

  115. al July 7, 2011 11:12 am

    i guess couch potato and me make for a gang.

  116. al July 7, 2011 11:14 am

    i was surprised that no one asked heather a question last night.

  117. SteveM July 7, 2011 11:27 am

    Al – Heather’s show is the wings… when is her Football Clinic for Ladies? I recall it being around August 25. But that was kinda mentioned in passing so not sure. 🙂

  118. SteveM July 7, 2011 11:32 am

    ….no, 25th is Pigskin Pigout… but around that week.

  119. tom mui July 7, 2011 11:32 am

    Good morning Hawaii!

    Because of the prior constraints, I did ask Coach Mac a hypothetical question in his office something to the effect that, should a D1 transfer that has been schooled in the spread offense transfer to Hawaii and has only two years left in eligibility, would it be difficult to adapt to a R&S offense?

    Answer: no.

    And I had no problems with Gigi’s questions.

    Thanks to Coach and Mrs Mac and ST and Mr. Williams for putting up with us in what turned out to be a most enjoyable evening.

  120. LizKauai -iPad July 7, 2011 11:34 am

    Was there any trolling at the Q&A?

  121. SteveM July 7, 2011 11:35 am

    Maybe ST got it on his tape recorder. Caught a glimpse of it. Not so impressive today, but 20 years ago it would have “Property of MI6” stamped on it. 🙂

  122. SteveM July 7, 2011 11:45 am


    ST — please delete my 11:35 am comment if you wish. People might not know all reporters carry them, and get nervous. 😐

  123. papajoe2 July 7, 2011 11:55 am

    Michele Wie at 7 over par after 17 holes. Play suspended due to weather. Kerr in the lead at -2.

  124. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 12:00 pm

    Liz, no, there was no trolling at the chat.

  125. Kevin July 7, 2011 12:03 pm

    Sans trolling at the Q&A.

    Trolls don’t get all brave when they are face to face with their “targets”.

  126. Ralph July 7, 2011 12:04 pm

    Wie, 1 birdie, 6 boogies, 1 double boogie. Eh, papajoe, looks like your scorecard. Leader with a -2, bad day for golfing for the Ladies.

  127. Kevin July 7, 2011 12:05 pm


    To make it a “gang” you need to make up blog names and make it seem like more than one person has the same opinion or whatever.

  128. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 12:06 pm

    Forcier called. He’s good to go.

  129. Slugger July 7, 2011 12:07 pm


    Good to hear you’re going home. You might have to do something about those ‘house guests’, though.

  130. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 12:11 pm

    off-topic, as usual–

    this is my 4th peanut butter and jelly sandwich in 2 days.

    3 yesterday

    1 today

    peanut butter contains no mercury (tuna) and no sodium nitrate (cold cuts)

    orange marmalade (my favorite kind of jelly)

    all on 12 grain bread (locally baked)

    yummy and so healthy

  131. Darren July 7, 2011 12:11 pm

    Good to go for an island trip? Good to go academically? Good to go….

  132. Slugger July 7, 2011 12:12 pm


    My sentiments, too. Good to go where?

  133. Slugger July 7, 2011 12:12 pm

    Will he show up at unsupervised practice today if it’s on?

  134. Darren July 7, 2011 12:15 pm

    Slugger – Up top…news is happening by the minute. Transcripts will be key…

  135. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 12:19 pm

    As far as Forcier is concerned, hope for a win-win situation for him and the Warriors.

  136. Darren July 7, 2011 12:23 pm

    Then after transcripts….some really really thorough due diligence. If that’s all good, then welcome to the rock…

  137. Darren July 7, 2011 12:29 pm

    Royce Pollard….Biletnikoff Award watch list. Good goal to have a Hawaii guy on this list every year.

  138. haka July 7, 2011 12:29 pm

    good to go from a pass the online classes status…

  139. Couch potato July 7, 2011 12:31 pm

    almost all the seafood we eat has mercury in it. so don’t expect to be mercury free when you go to a restaurant and order your favorite seafood dish. poke lovers don’t care. i love poke. 😆

  140. warriorsun July 7, 2011 12:37 pm

    mercury causes brain damage….:(

  141. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 12:38 pm

    RE: the WAC championship ring that I show on my blog —

    hubby informed me that is for the 2010 season, not for the 2007 season.

    That is why the ring shows the words, Hawaii Bowl, on it.

  142. Couch potato July 7, 2011 12:39 pm

    w-sun. hahahaha, good one!

  143. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 12:41 pm

    hubby just phoned from work —

    he asked the #1 question about Mack.

    How come Mack doesn’t have any grey hair?

    Is it because he doesn’t have a stressful job?

  144. jackyamada July 7, 2011 12:43 pm

    The “experienced quarterback” that UH needs could work out if Forcier comes here. Sure he had problems after being replaced as a starter at Michigan but he could be perfect UH esp. when Moniz graduates.

  145. warriorsun July 7, 2011 12:44 pm

    eh, couch, see, we can still disagree and share a laugh.

    ….u get a mulligan 🙂

  146. rage777 July 7, 2011 12:48 pm

    Peanut butter may not contain mercury, but it contains mucho fat. And the levels of mercury you are talking about are pretty miniscule. Mercury is monitored by the FDA, saturated fat not so much.

  147. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 12:49 pm


    I buy the reduced fat kind.

  148. Slugger July 7, 2011 12:49 pm

    Thanks for the heads ‘up’, Darren. “I see,” said the blind man.

  149. bigislandkurt July 7, 2011 12:51 pm

    Forcier good to go for Hawaii visit?

    Music to my ears.

    Signing him would be a huge get. The national profile of UH just might climb back up to Timmy/Colt/June days.


  150. Couch potato July 7, 2011 12:56 pm

    i always like a good laugh.

    people can buy all the reduced fat they like but if no can portion control then gotta wear muumuu.

  151. Musashi July 7, 2011 12:58 pm

    Reduced fat? Sorry . . . why bother? Taste and substance is da bomb!

  152. warriorsun July 7, 2011 12:58 pm

    didnt gigi say she has gained more weight than she cares to remember?

    apparently, no butta her…..but, personalty counts and our effervescent gal keeps everyone smiling.

  153. Couch potato July 7, 2011 12:58 pm

    losing the Kahuku boys to academics frees up scholies?

  154. Kevin July 7, 2011 1:00 pm

    Jostens makes the best rings for that purpose.

    As a gift from someone, I was given a similar “championship ring” for the 2007 season. It was from Beeman Jewelers I think. Just as thick and heavy.

    But Jostens makes championship rings for the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, and they do most of the high school and college class rings as well.

  155. Couch potato July 7, 2011 1:01 pm

    yeah, personality weighs more heavily on a blog. nothing like eye candy in person.

  156. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 1:01 pm

    I meant “good to go” in terms of his visit.

    Sorry, I was driving.

  157. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 1:02 pm

    Who designed the 1999 championship ring?

    Per Mack, it was a tiny thing with a tiny diamond in the center.

    He said he never wears it.

  158. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 1:03 pm

    Boy, I would looove to see WarriorSun and Couch Potato in person!!!

    You guys must be eye candy, too.

  159. Couch potato July 7, 2011 1:04 pm

    congrats to Victorino!

  160. Darren July 7, 2011 1:05 pm

    Ummm…may be better to post when not driving.

  161. Couch potato July 7, 2011 1:06 pm

    picture a potato on a couch. that’d be me. so sexy on a soft supple black leather couch. yeowzah.

  162. Couch potato July 7, 2011 1:07 pm

    and i don’t hid my bulges.

  163. Couch potato July 7, 2011 1:08 pm

    hide not hid.

  164. Bryson July 7, 2011 1:08 pm

    Mahalo to Coach Mack,Mrs.Mack and ST for helping arrange last night’s Q&A Session…I Forgot to ask but ST do you know if they’re gonna do another Man Camp this year?

  165. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 1:09 pm

    Couch, like they say: talk is cheap. lol

    I’ll laugh if you turn out to be a 500 lb gorilla.

  166. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 1:10 pm

    ST looks like he has lost quite a bit of weight.

  167. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 1:11 pm

    anyways, I am just so grateful to be alive since my hospital stay in April.

  168. warriorsun July 7, 2011 1:11 pm

    indeed, if mr forcier’s transfer is consummated on upper campus and he plays to form, our 2012 and 2013 years in the mwc would be unequivocably bosltered.

    we play usc twice, byu twice, all three of the pentagon teams and washington. then there are conference games including national power boise state and two notable west coast teams. not to mention playing the aztecs in his backyard in 2012….. hopefully, tate can read hawaiian t-leaves. it’s all good!

  169. Couch potato July 7, 2011 1:15 pm

    he lost weight from eating all those tuna sandwiches.

  170. Kevin July 7, 2011 1:16 pm

    IF Forcier arrives and gets on board and whatnot, the national sports media, being what it is, will FIRST focus on his past misfortunes.

    If Forcier and the team suceedes, then all should be forgiven and PERHAPS, the national sports media, if smart enough should take a look at our history of giving second chances.

    While some do not want us to be portrayed as a “second chance” school, it is some kind of acknowledgement and as they say, any publicity is good publicity.

  171. warriorsun July 7, 2011 1:18 pm

    gigi, something we all learned in college–candy is dandy but liquor is quicker.

  172. Couch potato July 7, 2011 1:22 pm

    i still think he will not be a Warrior, but if he is then may the best QB lead the Warriors in 2012. makes me wonder if he’ll be offered a scholie or walk-on and earn it.

  173. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 1:24 pm


    when I was single, I went to 2 parties where the host served wine WITHOUT ANY PUPUS.

    Talk about getting sleepy before meal time.

    Veddy embarrassing.

  174. Kevin July 7, 2011 1:25 pm


    Most likely Jostens was the manufacturer of the 1999 ring, just a cheaper version/model.

    The rings for 07, 08, and 2010 are the higher end models Jostens makes in the upper 200.00-lower 300.00 range.

    They selected silver since gold rings exceed the NCAA mandated gifting amount to student-athletes which is no greater than $325.00 per student-athlete I believe.

    Not sure on the EXACT amount, but I do think it’s a maximum of $325.00 per student-athlete.

    When we did the bracelets for the softball team, the costs were FAR below the regulated amount and having them in silver helps a lot.

  175. Kevin July 7, 2011 1:29 pm

    Contrary to popular belief, one can get more alcohol at a cheaper rate than outside.

    Example, hit up the KEO frat house and for $5.00 you get a large red or blue dixie cup you hold onto and can refill from the keg throughout the whole night!!!

    Oh the memories… oh the MISTAKES 😯 🙁 😎 .. oh.. yeah!!!!!!! 😆 😆 😆

  176. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 1:31 pm

    Forcier said one of the factors is it would be good to learn from Moniz and Austin.

  177. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 1:32 pm


    I have such a low tolerance for alcohol.

    1 glass is my limit.

    and I prefer champagne or beer.

  178. warriorsun July 7, 2011 1:33 pm

    if he matriculates he’ll prolly be offered the same deal as colt–walk-on fall, schollie in the spring…..unless mac has one in fall storage.

  179. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 1:33 pm


    was there a ring for 08?

    didn’t know we won a championship then.

  180. Kevin July 7, 2011 1:38 pm


    While we didn’t win a WAC Championship in 2008, we did go to the Hawaii Bowl, and Coach Mack purchased rings for the players and coaches with some of the proceeds from the Hawaii Bowl appearance.

    They were the same size as the WAC champ rings, but since no bowl was won or WAC title was won, it was a general ring with the H logo set in stones on the front and I think it said HAWAII on the top and WARRIORS on the bottom, players names on the side and such.

    ST, put up a pic of David Veikune sporting it on his blog back then.

  181. warriorsun July 7, 2011 1:39 pm

    #174, coniving host. that’s the intended consequence–to make you sleepy….oh boy, ur priceless. i bet when you gaze out on a pasture, all you see are snowflakes. jk.

  182. Kevin July 7, 2011 1:41 pm


    Here is the link to the blog showing the rings for the 2008 Hawaii Bowl. Kinda small photos though.

  183. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 1:42 pm

    Can you imagine champ rings for WOMEN’s Basketball players???

    Wonder if the ring would be small and dainty or big and bulky…

  184. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 1:45 pm

    yeah, the photos are small, Kevin.

  185. Derek July 7, 2011 1:47 pm

    Three things I want Tate Forcier to do if he dons a UH uniform:

    1) Take care of his academics and get a degree from UH.

    2) Be a TEAM player. There is no “I” in TEAM.

    3) Be humble, be unselfish, and learn the culture here.

    If he does these 3 things, then I think the football part will take care of itself. Do I want Tate Forcier to be part for the Warrior program? I’m not sure, but I have to trust Coach Mack and Coach Rolo that they will do the best job and make an honest evaluation on his character, leadershiip, heart, and talent. We need everyone to be on the same page and stick together if we want to win football games, especially close wins. Let’s face it, the Quarterback position at Hawaii is the one position that is under the microscope. Earlier you mentioned all the prior QBs i.e. Colt, Rolo, Timmy, and Greg, and now Bryant. The QB position can be and should be the “holy grail” for our program.

  186. Kevin July 7, 2011 1:48 pm

    Women’s championship rings are usually smaller indeed, are are more of a slender form, but still much larger than a wedding or engagment one.

    For women sports, Jostens and other companies offer alternatives like pendants, not so much bracelets, but for the softball team and considering local style traditions, Hawaiian-style bracelets were fitting and was requested.

    The 2009 WAC Women’s Vball rings resembled a Hawaiian bracelet look with the uniform band like a men’s Hawaiian style ring with the floral type scrolling pattern and the font looked to resemble that used often in Hawaiian bracelets.

  187. EH BRADDA! July 7, 2011 1:49 pm

    ST I couldn’t believe you didn’t find out the Tate Forcier article yourself!!! 🙂

  188. mcb July 7, 2011 2:05 pm

    ST already knew about the visit.

    who is tate’s family out here?

  189. shorebreak July 7, 2011 2:11 pm

    Tate FORCIER, is he a coachable student/athlete?

  190. al July 7, 2011 2:14 pm

    st’s been in phone contact nearly daily with forcier.

  191. tom mui July 7, 2011 2:20 pm

    Had lunch today with two of my friends at UHF and JD.

    If his schedule isn’t too bad, maybe ST could have a “chat with JD”. Very enlightening.

  192. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 2:34 pm

    Great to hear about Forcier’s visit to Hawaii next week. Wish the coaches, Tate, and his student hosts the best.

  193. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 2:43 pm

    So SJSU and UH are the top schools thus far for Forcier.


    What are the pros and cons for both schools that Forcier will have to consider?

  194. Kevin July 7, 2011 2:48 pm

    IWWTHM, it goes without saying…

    Should Forcier arrive, he’ll be eligible to play when we enter the MWC.

    SJSU is in the WAC… enough said.

    “prestige-wise” = UH > SJSU

  195. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 2:49 pm

    After listening to coach Mack first hand last night, Its my opinion that he is the perfect kind of coach for someone like Forcier.

    Positive and nurturing yet not willing to put up with bull or lower standards. Its that balance that is key.

  196. duffer July 7, 2011 2:49 pm

    Kevin sent a text with da ph number

  197. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 2:51 pm


    Yep I agree with that.

    I don’t know what kind of scheme SJSU runs offensively but is it something transferable to the “pro-level” like our RnS?

    Also SJSU is closer to home and family which might be a positive for him.

  198. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 2:54 pm

    Oh and Dick Tomey…can’t forget that mentor on staff.

  199. mctruck July 7, 2011 3:05 pm

    #195…u got a very good point there…..never thought about it that way.

  200. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 3:11 pm

    Eh Braddah:

    Nope. I’m old. Glad people were able to find things out.

  201. Kevin July 7, 2011 3:15 pm


    Mahalo! Got em. Just forwarded the info to da kine. 😎

    We will talk again soon!

  202. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 3:15 pm

    I think SJSU coach McIntyre is linked to Parcells.

    Belichick also is linked to Parcells, so by association, I guess SJSU can spread out the passing game.

  203. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 3:17 pm

    Tom Mui:

    JD said he was going to come up and chat last night. Never made it.

    Derek Inouchi also was invited. He was snug at home. Too bad since IWWTHM was running in his district.

  204. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 3:19 pm

    Tate Forcier: “The (UH) coaches told me the people (of Hawaii) accept you for who you are. If you’re humble and work hard, they won’t say anything negative about you.”

  205. Pride. July 7, 2011 3:22 pm

    Hawaii = Going to the MWC, yeaaaah. An ocean and a plane away, boooooo.

    SJSU = Plays in the WAC, booooo. Couple of hours away from home and family can drive to the games, yeaaaah.

  206. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 3:25 pm


    i ran and lost. i doubt derek inouchi would want anything to do with me. haha.

  207. Kevin July 7, 2011 3:26 pm

    “If you’re humble and work hard, they won’t say anything negative about you.”

  208. Pride. July 7, 2011 3:26 pm

    Nah, just joking. The decision by the Forcier ‘ohana is a very personal one. God bless Tate and his family, I wish him success wherever he goes.

  209. Kevin July 7, 2011 3:27 pm

    “If you’re humble and work hard, they won’t say anything negative about you.”

    “If you’re humble and work hard, they won’t say anything negative about you.”

    “If you’re humble and work hard, they won’t say anything negative about you.”

    “If you’re humble and work hard, they won’t say anything negative about you.”

    (Should I say what I REALLY want to say about this?)

  210. EH BRADDA July 7, 2011 3:29 pm


    you mean a 7 hour 44 minute drive from san diego to san jose and end up watching SJSU getting hammered….no thanks!!!!

    I take the 5-6 hour sleep on the plane then settling in sheraton or outrigger

  211. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 3:29 pm


    Please do.

  212. Pride. July 7, 2011 3:31 pm

    #211 – Yes, yes, it’s a personal decision. Not all of us think alike. I would stay at the Hilton…haha.

  213. Pride. July 7, 2011 3:33 pm

    #212 – “If you’re humble and work hard, they won’t say anything negative about you.” And they won’t hate you anymore. Too much PRIDE causes the fall of man.

  214. Pride. July 7, 2011 3:34 pm

    I wonder what years warriorsun played for DickT.

  215. Pride. July 7, 2011 3:34 pm


  216. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 3:34 pm

    I think he’ll sign with UH.

  217. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 3:37 pm


    I think so to. If Mack and Co. want him here I think he will sign up.

  218. Couch potato July 7, 2011 3:39 pm

    not enough PRIDE causes the fall of man.

  219. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 3:40 pm


    I’m ok with them hating me. Thick skin. =)

  220. Kevin July 7, 2011 3:42 pm

    Ok here is my “diplomatic” version:

    I’ve gripped, bitched, and moaned about the “bad” end of Hawaii fans.

    Hell, we’ve seen them materialize here in various forms, however often it’s 1 or two people at the most using different names. Clearly that ALONE is not a true mass representation.

    Go look at the stuff posted on the SA website after online articles, more excessive false accusations and assumptions and personal attacks on student-athletes, their parents, and the coaches.

    The expectations of Hawaii fans at their most extreme is appreciated. Everyone wants to win. For Forcier, coming from a program like a Michigan where winning is a norm at that level, I can only imagine the non-sense SPEWED out there when a loss is incurred.

    Needless to say, for the State of Aloha and fans alike, we do NOT place death threats on our student-athletes (even though exhibit the potential for such actions through their verbal taunts), but Hawaii fans CAN measure up to some vicious verbal barbs, usually nothing but posture and no action. This is Hawaii at it’s worst. Lots of arm folding and breaths being pouted like children. I can be accused of that as well. I am no exception, but my frequency pales in compairsion to those constantly boasting “they only want what is best for the team”.

    But for the most part, what our football coaches express to Tate Forcier is generally true, but as a whole do I believe we have the “best” fans in the country? I personally cannot confidently say that.

  221. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 3:42 pm

    Wonder if Tate reads this blog.

    If he does, Hello Tate.

  222. Kevin July 7, 2011 3:44 pm

    Me thinks Forcier would benefit from some chatting time with Pride during his visit.

  223. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 3:45 pm



  224. Kevin July 7, 2011 3:45 pm



    It’s ok, I had my own before.

    No homo. 😆 😆 😆

  225. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 3:46 pm


    Speaking of which..It was really nice to finally meet koamahu last night. Although I would prefer he stick to basic muumuus

  226. Couch potato July 7, 2011 3:47 pm

    mo bettah to chat with the players on the team. know the chemistry before you mix elements.

  227. tom mui July 7, 2011 3:49 pm

    #204 ST _ I think JD should get a couple of hours of his own. As I said, very luminating time.

    I have always thought highly of JD and Coach Mac. I did favor some other people for the job as I knew them but must say that these two have proven that they were the best people for the job all things considered.

  228. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 3:49 pm


    Mack said that is a very important factor in recruiting decisions. How do players feel about this person…can they relate, work together etc.

    Easier to trick a coach than it is a peer sometimes.

  229. Kevin July 7, 2011 3:51 pm

    Couch Potato,

    Oh yeah for sure, but afterwards though.

  230. Pride. July 7, 2011 3:52 pm

    “Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. It is better to be of a lowly spirit with the poor than to divide the spoil with the proud.”—on the bathroom wall at Proverbs U.

  231. Kevin July 7, 2011 3:52 pm

    There is no doubt that the addition of Forcier alone would increase ticket sales and whatnot.

    The curiosity factor has become an inadvertent marketing ploy.

  232. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 3:53 pm

    i think they should sell manapua and pepeau at football games.

  233. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 3:54 pm


    Yes for sure. I would renew my season tickets.

  234. Pride. July 7, 2011 3:56 pm

    Will be interesting to see what kind of chemistry Forcier and Rolo develop during this official visit. But then again, they may already have built up that chemistry prior to the visit.

  235. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 3:57 pm


    you going to see debbie at shinsho tonight?

  236. Pride. July 7, 2011 4:00 pm

    #237 – Going visit Koamahu, someplace else.

  237. Pride. July 7, 2011 4:01 pm

    😉 😉

  238. Derek July 7, 2011 4:06 pm

    There is always a “BUT” somewhere. Like, “if you’re humbe and work hard the people of Hawaii will not say anything negative about you, BUT if you’re playing shitty, you can be darned sure that Hawaii football fans will say something about it. That’s how it is in Divison I football, here and at elsewhere. As a QB, Forcier should understand this as it comes with the territory. A hero one game, a goat the next. That’s life. He’s been at the Big House and experienced it so he should be able to take the criticism. I hope he’s not coming here for a party, because if he is he’ll be run out of town. For his sake, I also hope he has some thick skin and can handle the pressure.

    San Jose or UH? Are you kidding me! WAC or Mountain West? It’s a simple as “apples and oranges.” It might be a personal decision by the Forcier ohana, but I say ditto for the Hawaii Warrior ohana. If he comes here and does well and is a model citizen and a good student/athlete it will be a good feel story the same as it did for Colt Brennan. Could it be a second BCS berth for our Warriors? Stay tuned.

  239. duffer July 7, 2011 4:07 pm


    Mahalo for helping KN

  240. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 4:07 pm

    lol fun

  241. Curt July 7, 2011 4:10 pm

    I agree that Forcier is more than likely to select Hawaii. The real question is whether the Coach will want him after his visit here. That’s the million dollar question.

  242. Curt July 7, 2011 4:11 pm


    Good job last night. We really enjoyed the chat with Mack.

  243. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 4:13 pm

    i know that fans get passionate and frustrated when things don’t go well. and negative things can be said. i am one of those people who get into it.

    one thing i never understood or really liked is booing our players during a game. remember it happening to chang and rolovich before and i think a couple times during the funaki/alexander years.

    even if they are playing bad i never thought that booing a player would help them with correcting their problems.

  244. Pride. July 7, 2011 4:13 pm

    #241 – Welcom Duffer.

  245. Pride. July 7, 2011 4:14 pm

    How did Gigi get a picture with both her and Hubby in it? Hmmmm.

  246. Kevin July 7, 2011 4:23 pm

    Booing OPPOSING players is expected, opposing players expect that and worse.

    Booing our own Warriors and Rainbow Wahine is PATHETIC and anyone that does is a spineless coward in my opinion.

    People say, “well, I paid so I can say what I want”, yeah right, go —- yourself with a centipede you moron!!!

    They try to rationalize it by saying some bull—- of how it “inspires” them to play better and it lets them know they are playing bad more bull—-. The truth is the reason most people “boo” our own players is because they have NO MANNERS. That’s the first instinct. PERIOD. The secondary reaction/rationalization is that oh, it makes them play better as if these COWARDS are focused on inspiring the team with this lowly approach.

    In 2007 I had to excuse myself from my seat to have a cigarette when people booed and chanted “WE WANT COLT” when Tyler Graunke was starting when Colt had a bum ankle against Charlston Southern. NO EXCUSE for that.

    And I WONT get off my “high horse” on this subject matter. If you want me to, MAKE ME.

  247. Ralph July 7, 2011 4:24 pm

    UH provides a good quality education at a low cost. Chancellor Hinshaw states that it is a “chicken skin Manoa moment” when UH received the maximum 10 year re-accreditation.

    Studying at UH should be a good option for the student-athlete.

  248. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 4:34 pm

    Know what’s beautiful?

    It’s the start of July, and we’re all in full football mode.

    Love it.

    Say, would anybody be up for a chat with Kealoha Pilares?

  249. warriorsun July 7, 2011 4:41 pm

    #217, agree despite what is being said on the street.

    it makes sense and hawai’i is one of the few schools remaining that can satisfy his goals.

    tate is running out of options and if sjsu and nevada are in his options it’s a no brainer.

    colt offers a template for comeback.

    our rns system is a QB fantasy where QB running ability is viewed as a luxury not a requirement.

    our conference membership and schedule is respectful enuff to earn national rankings if we win 7/13.

    since we have our own bowl, the likelihood of post season play is more than not.

    and finally, individual opportunity is wide-open to stake a claim on #1 QB in 2012.

    requirement of tate forcier–hurry-up and grow up!

    hawaii fans will back u to the max.

    we embrace second chance athletes.

  250. Kevin July 7, 2011 4:43 pm

    Gotta “mark out” again and say that sitting in that converence room with Coach Mack speaking directly to us really did get the football juices going again.

  251. hawaiian July 7, 2011 4:48 pm

    Hey ST,

    No one has mentioned Thor Salanoa (2011 Recruit) as part of the “newcomers” on campus…what gives?

  252. greenthumb July 7, 2011 4:51 pm

    #249 yes, please (semi-lurker smiley)

  253. SteveM July 7, 2011 4:52 pm

    Stephen Tsai:

    July 7th, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    Tom Mui:

    JD said he was going to come up and chat last night. Never made it.

    Derek Inouchi also was invited. He was snug at home. Too bad since IWWTHM was running in his district.

    ST — when DPK and I arrived last night, JD was standing and talking to someone in a first floor office. Kid said, “Let’s go stand at the window…”. We did so for a few seconds but I chickened out. Just then gigi and hubby approached, so I broke off. Then you appeared at the end of the building just as JD opened the door to see what was going on… 😆

    Yeah, too bad JD never made it. I had a question for him, especially after Mack answered my question about his preferred game start time at Aloha Stadium… 😀

  254. GoodLookingPake July 7, 2011 4:59 pm

    Kevin #248

    I don’t think you where born yet…

    The #1 football recruit (wide receiver) out of Hawaii…

    Sign a letter of intent with B.Y.U….

    When he returned to the islands with B.Y.U.. He was booed!! by the Hawaii fans…

    It was reported that he was in tears!!

    I just want to say..I am truly sorry for booing him that night…

  255. GoodLookingPake July 7, 2011 5:01 pm



  256. Kevin July 7, 2011 5:15 pm


    July 7th, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    Kevin #248

    I don’t think you where born yet…

    The #1 football recruit (wide receiver) out of Hawaii…

    Sign a letter of intent with B.Y.U….

    When he returned to the islands with B.Y.U.. He was booed!! by the Hawaii fans…

    It was reported that he was in tears!!

    I just want to say..I am truly sorry for booing him that night…

    He’s an opposing player and it was going to happen he and his family must have known, especially since it was BYU.

    Should people “boo” opposing fans? Up to them, but I do, mostly against Fresno State or high uppity muck muck BCS programs.

    Just saying that booing our own players on OUR team is quite pathetic.

  257. Hoohiki July 7, 2011 5:18 pm

    #255: Don’t be sorry. He flaunted his national champs ring around and taunted everyone within shouting distance. Jeremy Perry and this St. Louis High grad left a very bitter taste on the islands.

  258. Kevin July 7, 2011 5:18 pm

    Booing can be a double-standard too.

    I mostly boo opposing teams (players and coaches) in football, sometimes basketball.

    But I mostly try to target my verbal angst against ONLY the opposing coaches in baseball, softball, women’s volleyball, men’s volleyball (sometimes the opposing players if sitting next to certain people), and women’s basketball.

    Officials of ALL sports are fair game though.

  259. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 5:20 pm

    Pride, I wasn’t in the picture with hubby.

    I was taking the photo.

    That was protector next to hubby.

    Protector has been having problems with his internet, so that explains why he has not been commenting on the WB lately.

  260. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 5:43 pm

    First day of workouts for newcomers.

  261. rainbowbballer July 7, 2011 5:44 pm

    Just comment on two items 1. on hawaii bowl academies, not enough practice time??? Mostly likely I am incorrect, but werent three key players(primetimeplayers) ruled ineligible cus of academies?? Whats the scoops?? 2. on Forcier, if he comes and stays for a year only vacation and not play for UH, will he repay the cost of his one year vacation, whether it is a violation or if he leaves on his own. Hawaii cant afford to pay for a vacation, betta you bring the New Mexico Quarterback from the Mules.

  262. GoodLookingPake July 7, 2011 5:44 pm


    #258…Wow !! you go way back!!

    I Did’nt think anyone would remember the player…

    No names, no dates, no high school was given…

  263. NYUH July 7, 2011 5:50 pm

    La Tech is always touch. Now they got some good karma.

  264. Pride. July 7, 2011 6:12 pm

    #260 – Sincerely apologize.

  265. tom mui July 7, 2011 6:22 pm

    #263 St Louis grad. Mizasaki(sp) was his name. Yes, he got boo’d royally.

    Wonder what happen to him?

    Many players feel that they have to go to the Mainland. Those that do should consider whether they want to play in the Mainland and then make their lives in Hawaii. The players that play for Hawaii are remembered and have a leg up as far as their future in Hawaii are concerned.

    Those that go to schools other than USC or Stanford that have a strong old-boy network in the islands won’t have the same advantage.

  266. tom mui July 7, 2011 6:35 pm

    STEVEM #254 Most of our games will start at 6:00pm – other than Colorado & BYU which are being TV games. So while it won’t be at midnight, means that teams from the Mt time would be playing at 10:00pm their time and midnight/1AM after the half – will be more if it were daylight saving time.

    I would prefer 7:00 or thereabouts myself – might build up the gate further but then the papers back east will never publish UH scores until Monday. And that may be true for the newspapers in the other times zones as well.

  267. GoodLookingPake July 7, 2011 6:37 pm


    Tom mui,

    I am really surprise you and Hoohiki #258 remembered that far back…

    more than 3 decade…

    Are two of you still able to get to the stadium…still able to walk…

    keep it up!! still young…

  268. hkwarrior (aka pcwarrior) July 7, 2011 6:59 pm

    Micah Matsuzaki if I remember correctly…. I felt bad for him too, but like others said, it was expected….

  269. hkwarrior (aka pcwarrior) July 7, 2011 7:02 pm

    And I remember that OSU game with JP, he was playing dirty!! I told my wife, “He’s gonna get hurt during the game at some point!”

  270. Iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 7:06 pm

    Games at 6pm are fine by me. I never really cared for 7pm starts.

    Not that the east coast media watch or follow our games with intensity but its good that our nationally televised games are much earlier in the day.

  271. Dr. Paredes July 7, 2011 7:09 pm

    Hamstring tears and strains are not caused by cold hamstrings. They are caused by poor sacroiliac joint motion. If you have a hamstring tear and/or pain, you need to get your sacroiliac joint motion evaluated and then adjusted to restore proper motion. Google “Hamstring tears Sacroiliac joint” to find all the interesting articles on this subject. Notably, admissions by Physical Therapists that they simply do not know what causes or how to treat Hamstring injuries. The team should save money and not pay the added expense to have these “interesting” pants. If you’d like to know more, let me know. I am the Chiropractor for the Hawaii Professional Football League. At the Pro games I treat about 40 to 50 players before their games. The players find that the adjustments help them.

  272. tom mui July 7, 2011 7:19 pm

    #269 HKWarrior – yep, it was Micah Matsuzaki – your memory and spelling is better than mine.

    Wonder whatever happen to him.

  273. tom mui July 7, 2011 7:24 pm

    #268 – Good Looking Pake – when you reach 78, you are lucky if you remember anything!!!

    Last night, Capitol gave me the news that the stadium now has safety railings for us old-types.

    Now I got to convince AL that I need his reserved space more than he does..

    (Just kidding, AL. I got PPV – hope Hawaiian Tel has a better price. I am a cheap pake).

  274. Iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 7:35 pm

    I could live with Tate going to SJSU…but to Nevada and Coach Grumpy would leave a bad taste in my mouth.

  275. NYUH July 7, 2011 7:50 pm

    Re 271. Friday night UH games at 8pm are the way to go. Need to get the governor behind this as HS kids should play on Saturdays. Absurd to have them play on a school night, no wonder Hawaii players have such problems with academics.

    Friday night games will have UH scores first and foremost rather than last and lost. Get them rebroadcast on Sat am to the rest of the country where football games start in the afternoon not at breakfast like in Hawaii.

  276. SteveM July 7, 2011 7:51 pm

    Tsaiko Cruiser’s Call

    Tomorrow (Friday) July 8, 2011 from 12:00 – 2:00 pm (approx.)

    Club Genji click here for map and menu

    Experienced Tsai-ko cruisers and curious future cruisers meet to share tips, anecdotes, and answer questions. First time cruisers BG & Betty are the special guests. LakesideGT, just back from the Baltic on the sister ship to BG’s and multi cruise veteran Tom Mui are expected. Everyone welcome.

    Warning: food service is slow in the daytime.

    Purchase of food or drink is not required.

    RSVP not necessary–just come down!

  277. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 8:11 pm

    $76,000 engagement ring returned to Roy Williams.


    what a sap. lol

  278. SteveM July 7, 2011 8:15 pm

    RE: #271

    Coach understandably wants real home field advantage when dealing with time zones. What works against us should apply to the opponents too. Then, winning in the darkness might be preferable to a close loss in prime time.

    NYUH — #276 sheeesh, that kinda makes sense. Gives all the visiting opponents a short week too, while a regular one for us. But…

  279. Old Diver July 7, 2011 8:16 pm

    The difference between San Jose State and Warrior football? I think Coach Tomey is best suited to answer that question.

  280. al July 7, 2011 8:23 pm

    according to one of the little birdies…

    all it would take for tate forcier to become a warrior is;

    one, first he and his family must want him here. no shenanigans, no bs, just the desire to start all over in manoa.

    two, he needs to be accepted by the university. as a d1 qualifier/transfer all he needs is to make sure he has the gpa in the courses that uh will accept.

    three, he needs to pass the ohana test. is he a good guy who could fit in or is he “all about me”.

    he must meet all of the above.

  281. kalani July 7, 2011 8:51 pm

    #281 His ego is way too big to meet #3.

  282. al July 7, 2011 9:13 pm

    282…not according to recent reports from those who spoke to him.

  283. Guy in the office July 7, 2011 9:15 pm

    281 — in short, be everything he wasn’t while at Michigan. I like those conditions. Let’s see what happens …

  284. d1shima July 7, 2011 9:16 pm

    Craig Stutzmann lands back in Memphis.

  285. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2011 9:18 pm

    Congrats, Craig.

    Good luck and best wishes!

  286. koakane July 7, 2011 9:28 pm

    evening everyone adding my mahalo to mistah tsai and coach mac for the Q/A and tour of the fball offices

  287. koakane July 7, 2011 9:41 pm

    one point I like to emphasize, coach mac wants to play or move the home games back to 7pm and midnight if need be. use the time zone advantage for the warriors because they surely are at a disadvantage when they travel across the Pacific.

    the big point is the subsidization of their air fare. so there should be no excuse about catching the fight back and missing a day of next game preparations.

    other teams can charter flights where as warrior flies non charter.

  288. Hoohiki July 7, 2011 9:43 pm

    Can someone clarify?…I don’t think what I wrote was correct in #258. He had a WAC champ ring, not a national champ ring..I think BYU won the national champ in 1984 with Kurt Gouveia and Mr. St. Louis HS was at BYU in the early 1990’s. Correct me if I’m wrong…I’m too lazy to google if info is correct or not and my mind is “too old” to remember.

    I think Forcier is tripping here to get a free vacation. Just a hunch.

  289. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 9:50 pm

    I think Forcier will sign with UH.

    I also think that on senior night in 2013, the line will be long for his autograph.

    He’s just one recruit. He hasn’t been in any legal trouble. Not sure why he should be held to a higher standard than other recruits.

  290. d1shima July 7, 2011 9:57 pm

    The Big Guy said the recruit is paying his own way for the visit.

  291. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 10:15 pm

    I think its pretty cool that he has family here. Wonder if they are big Hawaii fans.

  292. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 10:16 pm

    Maybe Tate’s Hawaii family reads this blog.

    Hello Tate’s Family.

  293. al July 7, 2011 10:33 pm

    it sure sounds like tate will be a warrior. i picked a lot of subliminal messages last night and body language was strong.

  294. al July 7, 2011 10:35 pm

    it was rather refreshing to see that mack’s boss is no different from many of us.

    heather gave him the eye everytime he came close to crossing the line.

    that was funny.

  295. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 10:35 pm

    What is the deadline for recruits to enroll who are going to redshirt in 2011?

  296. HEINEKEN July 7, 2011 10:36 pm

    Give the guy a chance

    We gave:


    Jason Rivers (2nd chance)



    Mike Edwards

    Everyone deserves a 2nd chance except Casey Anthony and OJ

  297. al July 7, 2011 10:36 pm

    …and don’t forget guys, mack’s daughter reads this blog daily and reports back to him.

    now i no longer wonder why he singled out the “hate me” guy as he referred iwwthm often.

  298. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 10:36 pm

    UH did its research on him. I know people in Michigan and San Diego were called.

    I think he’ll be fine. And he’ll make the other quarterbacks better. Competition is always good.

  299. al July 7, 2011 10:37 pm


  300. al July 7, 2011 10:37 pm

    sorry curt.

  301. Ralph July 7, 2011 10:37 pm

    IWWTHM out Forcier trolling again?, whatevers, at least the blog count will go up

  302. kalani July 7, 2011 10:39 pm

    #291 He should be paying his own way. This guy is the biggest self promoter in hs/college football history. The hype that he creates for himself nearly attains T.O./Ochocinco status. I couldn’t believe my ears that he was tweeting Josh Pacheco while he was doing the BC show today. This guy is all about himself and how much attention he can draw to himself. Not really the Warrior way. I hope he doesn’t get beat up by the other players on his visit.

  303. al July 7, 2011 10:39 pm

    yah, a four way race begins in the fall.





    i think higgins will be the darkhorse candidate for 2012. word from the unofficial official workouts is that the guy has the stuff.

  304. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 10:40 pm

    By the way, I accidentally found out another thing. But seeing the reaction to Forcier, this time I’m not going to say anything.

  305. Ralph July 7, 2011 10:41 pm

    Al jumps 300, while Curt is on stage left licking his chops counting down 298, 299, submit.

  306. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 10:42 pm

    Actually, Forcier responded to a tweet message from Pacheco.

    He did not know that Pacheco was on the air at the time.

  307. HEINEKEN July 7, 2011 10:42 pm

    ST are you on the train ride with me and excited if he becomes a Warrior?

    Why the 2nd guess people …..the kid can play

    He going to do anything wrong down here

    If anyone was the clown at Michigan , it was RichRod

  308. Ralph July 7, 2011 10:43 pm

    #305 now we all can blame IWWTHM 🙂

  309. HEINEKEN July 7, 2011 10:43 pm

    ST what is Tates official twitter page?

    Thanks if you can post the URL.. can’t find it anywhere

  310. al July 7, 2011 10:44 pm

    redshirt happens as long as he doesn’t get in to a game. although this would be considered a redshirt year, it realistically is a mandatory “sit out” year required for any d1 transfer. he could actually sit at home, but, conventional wisdom dictates that he practice with the team to earn and learn, respect and system in that order.

  311. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 10:45 pm


  312. HEINEKEN July 7, 2011 10:45 pm

    thank you mr TSAI!!

  313. warriorsun July 7, 2011 10:47 pm

    the bar is always set higher for a QB–he represents the team. especially at hawaii.

    QBs live in a fishbowl and everything is magnified and blown up. tate can handle. he just needs to find a home and settle.

    having said that….i hope we get forcier. he has a wealth of talent and those california sunshine boys blend easy with polynesians. look at colt, the orange coast cruiser, he learned samoan and was barking signals in their native tongue within a year. it’s a natural fit for a SD athlete escaping the cold tundra of A2 to a warmer, low key islander lifestyle he wont soon forget. all tate needs is a one way ticket. the aloha will follow.

  314. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 10:48 pm

    UH wants an experienced quarterback to compete against Graves, Shutter, Spain, Higgins, Nielsen in 2012.

    With the top QBs leaving the program after this year, if you get a chance to get an experienced QB, you go for it. I would think.

    If it doesn’t work out, it doesn’t work out.

    But, hey, there are 85 scholarships and 25 walk-ons. The risk is minimal

  315. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 10:49 pm


    Anything for the green bottle.

    Mrs. C is your biggest fan.

  316. kalani July 7, 2011 10:54 pm

    What kind of a guy posts copies of all his offers on his website? An extremely narcissistic one. Those guys are not typically team players.

  317. LizKauai -iPad July 7, 2011 10:56 pm

    I think a team needs love and unity to be successful.

    And I think Coach Mack understands that and is also a good cat herder.

    We are lucky to have him.

    And keep an eye on the Mouse that Roars. 🙂

  318. al July 7, 2011 10:56 pm

    st…tantalizing and teasing. shame on you.

    now everybody going to bug you for days.

    but, if it is hush hush i understand.

    but, you know my little birdie hotline…so no shame.

    “i see nothing.

    i hear nothing.”

    …sgt schultz, hogan’s heroes september 17, 1965

  319. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 10:57 pm

    I don’t know Forcier. But in the 14 minutes I’ve spoken with him, he seems polite, he says the right things, and he said he has an appreciation for the coaches and the people of Hawaii.

    If anyone else here has actually dealt with him personally, maybe they have a different impression.

    But he seems like a nice guy.

    I don’t judge. I just provide updates.

  320. LizKauai -iPad July 7, 2011 10:59 pm

    In spite of his name, hate me is not a troll. And he can sing.

  321. HEINEKEN July 7, 2011 10:59 pm

    Anyone knows when Mike Edwards/Scott Harding arrive on campus?

  322. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 10:59 pm


    I can appreciate your opinion.

    As for me, I really don’t know him enough to have formed a valid assessment.

  323. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 11:01 pm

    No, IWWTHM is not a troll.

    He seems like a nice guy.

    Then again, I don’t really know him well enough, either.

    I think I really need to socialize more.

  324. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 11:05 pm

    Then again, most people are nice to me.

    It’s not because I’m a wonderful guy or anything like that.

    It’s probably because I have a camera and a blog, and I’m the only reporter at unsupervised workouts. As the saying goes: In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

  325. warriorsun July 7, 2011 11:06 pm

    TG and Bryant committed much worst trangressions. both were suspended. moniz is now our QB leader and nominated for major post season awards. TG, hung in and didnt bail. not bad work by MAC. tate is marketing his resume bc he is transferring, he’s a business major and applying his trade and using the internet as a working tool. that’s smart, not narcissistic.

    anthony weiner is narcissistic. has tate dropped his jocks?

  326. al July 7, 2011 11:07 pm

    iwwthm…is a misnomer. i actually like the guy.

    and he is a passionate warrior fan.

    at least i got to meet him and break bread with him.

    well, rice bowls at camellia is as close to bread to us asians as bread is to…

  327. BleedGreen808 July 7, 2011 11:07 pm

    Thanks again Mr. Tsai for coordinating the face to face chat!

    Also, thanks to Coach Mack, Mrs. Mack and Chris for their time last night!

  328. al July 7, 2011 11:08 pm

    326…well guess what?

    i totally agree with you on that one.

  329. LizKauai -iPad July 7, 2011 11:10 pm

    Nitey nite and Tsweet Warrior Dreams!

  330. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 11:11 pm


    I just want to know why he always wears a jacket indoors.

  331. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 11:11 pm

    By the way, Kealoha Pilares wants people to follow his tweets.

  332. kalani July 7, 2011 11:12 pm


    Fair enough.

  333. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2011 11:12 pm

    I have to pay my bills now. Time to focus.

  334. al July 7, 2011 11:14 pm

    what’s kealoha’s tweet addy?

  335. al July 7, 2011 11:15 pm

    i wonder why he wears a jacket too?

    it wasn’t cold?

  336. warriorsun July 7, 2011 11:17 pm

    al, geez, now that is huge!

    i might even change my mind on the aussie punt returner, scott harding, if he breaks one 🙂

  337. al July 7, 2011 11:23 pm

    if and when he does…i will surely be the first to remind you.

  338. al July 7, 2011 11:25 pm

    they were going to grayshirt him so that he would have time to learn the american game. however, at 24 he was anxious to strap it up. then it was realized that he was good at returning kicks in the aussie leagues and when anguay went down the door opened for him.

  339. al July 7, 2011 11:29 pm

    curt…here’s a link to that walk on prospect for the mbb program.

  340. warriorsun July 7, 2011 11:30 pm

    im hoping he does….but, if he doesnt… ill be reminding too.

  341. Da Punchbowl Kid July 7, 2011 11:35 pm

    Peace and Love on the WB… 🙂

  342. Da Punchbowl Kid July 7, 2011 11:37 pm

    324.Stephen Tsai:

    July 7th, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    No, IWWTHM is not a troll.

    He seems like a nice guy.

    Then again, I don’t really know him well enough, either.

    I think I really need to socialize more.


    Need to bring HEINEKEN along! 😉

  343. tom mui July 7, 2011 11:38 pm

    The opinions of our Bloggers are interesting but in the last analysis, and one that I put faith in, is what Coach Mac says.

  344. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 11:41 pm

    People on blogs can say all kinds of things about all kinds of people all while being anonymous. I showed up the to the event to ask questions of the coach knowing well he probably heard/read a few of my posts.

    I’m not going to say something that I would be afraid to say in real life w/ the computer screen blocking my face.

    The guy is a professional and personable when he could very well have said “hey you, get the heck out of my office.” This event with him brought me greater insight into the guy and if anything I have gained a great deal of respect for him.

    But I’m 99.99% sure that he could care less about what I write about him both good or bad. I am a nobody that doesn’t make his life any easier or harder nor makes the football team any more or less successful.

    I got no reason to lie or bs about this…so flat out, I think Mack has our program going in the right direction. When I could relate to him in the few minutes he addressed my questions, that is when I realized the impact he can have with our athletes and who he really is. He says he is a teacher..I couldn’t agree any more.

  345. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 11:43 pm

    re: jacket.

    i only see you folks in a/c rooms. contrary to my my obeseness i do get cold easily. so that is why i normally bring a jacket with me.

  346. Curt July 7, 2011 11:43 pm


    Thanks for the video on the new walk on. Apparently, he loves the jump shot.

  347. al July 7, 2011 11:44 pm

    so how come nobody refers to him as “big mac”?

    he could be a spokesperson for the mcd chain.

    or shouldn’t his agent be trying to get him to do commercials for ronald mcdonald and company?

  348. al July 7, 2011 11:45 pm

    but a jacket in camellia’s?

    especially the way you wolfed down the kalbi.

  349. Da Punchbowl Kid July 7, 2011 11:45 pm

    As Coach emphasized, he has a lot of faith in his assistant coaches. Consider the many superb mentors Forcier wil have access to. They’re well suited for this situation.

  350. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 11:47 pm


    Not sure what post today you want to identify as “trolling” but you are more than welcome to my little grass shack under the bridge…

    as someone who ran for office and was ready to get blamed for the budget, potholes, and bad weather you are more than welcome to blame me for anything you like all day all night. lol.

    ive met you 2x in person and you are also a facebook friend (if you are the same ralph)…so you can say you know a real life troll. =).

  351. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2011 11:48 pm


    Haha I rarely ate at camelia. Didn’t have much room on our grill cuz it was shared between 4 people for some reason. =P

  352. SteveM July 7, 2011 11:51 pm

    I am fairly sure that HEINEKEN is not our tailgate doc “Heinekenhealer”.

    So, HEINEKEN, “Welcome to the blog”.

  353. Curt July 7, 2011 11:52 pm

    ST and al

    Both of you listed the QBs that will be competing for the starting job in 2012. I noticed that Justin Alo was not on either of your lists. Wa happened?

  354. LizKauai -iPad July 8, 2011 12:00 am

    345- and it’s not so much about what fans think about how the team can be improved, etc. The combined knowledge of our coaching staff is second to none, imho. I believe Coach Mack understands the power of love and encouragement and that is where the 12th man is so important. I believe he recognizes how unique The Tsai-kos are in the world of college football fandom and how it actually feeds and channels energy necessary to have and sustain a winning team.

    Kudos to ST and all of you posting and reading and adding to the success of the Warriors.

  355. HEINEKEN July 8, 2011 12:00 am

    thank you bradda SteveM

  356. al July 8, 2011 12:05 am

    the plan i hear is for justin alo to greyshirt in january.

    then redshirt during the 2012 season.

    come 2013 he’ll begin his eligibility track.

    he should also have learned a lot more of the run n shoot system.

    it is hoped that by then he’ll also wear another 15-20 lbs.

  357. al July 8, 2011 12:10 am

    curt…his teammate at carson hs was an early usc committal.

    now, darreus rogers is still looking and he made a comment that he is considering playing college ball with his quarterback (alo). i think a trip is in the works later in the year.

    i think he was rated as high as the #15 best wr in the nation. i guess that is why most services have given him a four star rating.

  358. SteveM July 8, 2011 12:10 am

    So what’s this about Iwonderwhytheyhateme being a troll?

    Nah. Not hardly. (John Wayne expression).

    I just realized that he is hardly seen nowadays. He came to one BIG Karaoke Call only, but has been at Genjii Karaoke Calls often ( although he he frequents somewhere “younger” now 🙂 ) He’s sat with Mr. & Mrs. Long Time UH Fan at Genji’s watching a PPV game and eating a tray full of her lemon mochi.

    He helped buy Tsai-ko’s tickets to the Sugar Bowl.

    He’s OK.

    I didn’t vote for him, but he’s OK. 😆

  359. HEINEKEN July 8, 2011 12:12 am


    maybe he actually smart on thinking of the stats he could get at UH

  360. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 8, 2011 12:12 am


    Haha I am probably going down to the cruiser one. Haven’t seen Pam and Russ for long time. Hope they both doing good.

  361. al July 8, 2011 12:15 am

    forgot your link….


    btw, the guy tossing the ball to him is justin alo.

  362. HEINEKEN July 8, 2011 12:21 am

    I really dont get how some of these guys are 4 stars

  363. papajoe2 July 8, 2011 12:25 am

    Where’s Homey and RainbowCliff? Long time no read.

  364. al July 8, 2011 12:26 am

    you really can’t go by the star rating system.

    recruit services do not see all of the guys in action. in fact, i’ll bet that they may only see 5% of the total. they rate by hearsay, who’s recruiting who, combine numbers, but, rarely do they attend games to know enough about a prospect.

  365. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 8, 2011 12:28 am

    Recruiting is a gamble right…highly ranked player hopes to minimize that gamble.

    But ask Chris Petersen and Mike Leach…they both do/did quite well with getting the ones that flew under the radar.

  366. al July 8, 2011 12:46 am

    sunny…here’s your punt returner.

    he’s a pretty tough lad at that.

  367. HEINEKEN July 8, 2011 12:48 am

    Chris Peterson

    Pat Hill

    Ken Niumatalolo

    Troy Calhoun

    Recruits dont affect

  368. al July 8, 2011 12:48 am

    bedtime music…

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