State of relocating

The good news with the state system is that roughly 15 days after you leave your state job,  you will receive a paycheck. And then roughly 15 days after that, you will receive another paycheck. And, maybe, 15 days after that you will receive another paycheck.

The not-so-good news is after starting a state job, you might not receive a paycheck in  15 days nor, possibly, in 30 days.

It’s the procedural lag that affects everyone from custodians to professors to administrators and, yes, to coaches. And it’s not just limited to the university.

Also, in many cases, an employee hired from the mainland will be allowed to stay in a hotel for three days at UH’s expense. After that, the stay becomes taxable income.

The lesson: Before coming to Hawaii, save some money and find a good Realtor.



  1. kapakahi February 19, 2014 8:00 am


  2. kapakahi February 19, 2014 8:02 am

    Hopefully Gouveia invested his NFL earnings wisely.

  3. A-House February 19, 2014 8:03 am


  4. A-House February 19, 2014 8:03 am


  5. A-House February 19, 2014 8:03 am


  6. A-House February 19, 2014 8:04 am


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  8. koakane ip5 February 19, 2014 8:07 am

    morning 808

    kden can add this Kuhio Grill or Pearl City Tavern

    yea yea I late but still

  9. Stephen Tsai February 19, 2014 8:08 am

    Gouveia got a workout before coming here.
    He said he had to shovel snow off his driveway. His driveway is 60 yards, I think.
    By the way, he has lived in North Carolina the past eight years.
    His wife and youngest son (who will be a senior in high school) will remain in N.C. this coming year.

  10. koakane ip5 February 19, 2014 8:08 am

    mistah Ahouse you must be on vacation eh

  11. Stephen Tsai February 19, 2014 8:08 am

    Gouveia’s son also did well in the state wrestling tournament.

  12. Stephen Tsai February 19, 2014 8:09 am

    A-House is enjoying our street’s new smooth road. It only took 40 years, right?

  13. koakane ip5 February 19, 2014 8:11 am

    must be a windward side thing new road get day off bwhaaaaaaa

    morning to you Stephen

  14. Stephen Tsai February 19, 2014 8:17 am

    They brought all the trucks and machinery to do our neighborhood’s roads. But it kept raining and raining — I think we had four sunny days since Christmas — but, now, we have the smoothest roads. Delays can be frustrating and annoying, but it’s worth it when the craftsmanship is so nice. Kudos to the road crews.

  15. jm2375 February 19, 2014 8:30 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Dat’s a lot of snow to shovel.

    Still waiting for our neighborhood’s streets to be repaved. Dey sed sometime between now and April. I’ll believe it when I see it.
    (Pali Hwy needs it the most, but that’s the State’s job, not the City’s)


  16. boolakanaka February 19, 2014 8:31 am

    Aloha all–furikake or field of dreams? (ok, I was trying too hard on that one)

  17. Stephen Tsai February 19, 2014 8:47 am

    That’s sort of like when the cable guy says he’ll be over between 8 a.m. and 4 p.m.
    When we had our Road Runner installed several years ago, the cable guy was all antsy. He said he had to pee. I told him to go to the bathroom. He said there was a “policy” about not peeing in people’s homes. Never heard of that one. So he did a hurry-up job, and left.

  18. Da Punchbowl Kid February 19, 2014 8:49 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 😉

    I’m sure Coach Gouveia will have relative or two or thee or four he can stay with. Watched his interview on Da Big Guy’s sports report last night. He’s clearly very excited to be here and looks like he’ll do well. Very intense – lotsa fire in his eyes.

  19. koakane ® February 19, 2014 8:49 am


    Is that CC way of road kill

  20. Da Punchbowl Kid February 19, 2014 8:52 am

    Stephen –
    A “No Pee Policy”? Sounds cruel and unusual. Maybe you should have directed him to your infamous hedges, which should be located outside your house, no? 😆

  21. NorthShoreFan February 19, 2014 8:54 am

    Guud Morning Tsaikos….bootiful, sunny day…
    leading to a busy weekend….IMUA WARRIORS/WAHINES!

  22. boolakanaka February 19, 2014 8:58 am

    Pee or pp?

  23. koakane ® February 19, 2014 8:58 am

    CC road kill

    one day to figure out what equip to use
    one day to find area need to fix
    one day to dive ther and find parking
    rain out couple days
    couple days to let equip dry out
    one day forget what job order to do
    christmas day off
    send men out to check if equip there and if road dry
    next day show up and plan how to do job
    finally work starts

    yep das how CC works

  24. Stephen Tsai February 19, 2014 8:58 am

    I’m not sure where he ended up peeing, but he didn’t want to use our bathrooms.
    Unless it was a deuce.

  25. Stephen Tsai February 19, 2014 8:59 am

    Boola: No. 22

  26. Stephen Tsai February 19, 2014 8:59 am

    LMAO or lol?

  27. Stephen Tsai February 19, 2014 9:01 am

    I think Gary Beemer wanted to get a head start, so he ended up working nearly 2 months before getting his first check, I think.

  28. A-House February 19, 2014 9:06 am


    nope, at work, but arrived early and got to the blog!


    every day we travel over our newly paved road, we say “thank you” – it feels sooo guud with no bumps – not even where they “patched” the new asphalt to the previously installed asphalt.

  29. NorthShoreFan February 19, 2014 9:14 am

    life’s little pleasures…

  30. kakaako kid February 19, 2014 9:29 am

    If dey neva store da machines on ur street, instead bring ’em in da day befoa, u would tink dey did one rush job. Positive vibe, positive result. Go Bows!

  31. boolakanaka February 19, 2014 9:32 am

    Uku’s or kaki’os?

  32. boolakanaka February 19, 2014 9:34 am

    Benjo or lua?

  33. koakane ® February 19, 2014 9:37 am

    dis or dat

  34. koakane ® February 19, 2014 9:38 am

    wot or why

  35. boolakanaka February 19, 2014 9:41 am

    KPT or Mayor Wrights?

  36. boolakanaka February 19, 2014 9:41 am

    The Wave or Pink Cadillac?

  37. rage777 February 19, 2014 9:42 am

    You should have pointed him towards A-house’s bushes. 🙂

  38. boolakanaka February 19, 2014 9:44 am

    DH, as it was called in our day (juvenile detention home–more current name) or Youth Correctional Facility?

  39. rage777 February 19, 2014 9:45 am

    The 15 day wait is typical of most jobs. When I relocated from Hawaii to Cali, the company paid for my hotel and rental car for 2 weeks, but I had to file it as taxable income. I also had to file the move that they paid for as taxable income, all $15,000 of it. My wife didn’t work the first year and our tax bill was over $5,000, for a recent college graduate at a new job it hit us pretty hard. So, this is not a situation that is only for a move to Hawaii.

  40. ai-eee-soos February 19, 2014 10:16 am

    off topic, but …

    The University of Hawaii expects to shelve plans to close the upper deck at Aloha Stadium this football season and will instead look at ways to give current season ticket holders more value in 2014, officials said.

    Since closure would displace approximately 1,100 season-ticket holders who account for 3,225 seats, athletic director Ben Jay said Tuesday, “It doesn’t look like I’m going to (lean) to closing the upper deck.”

    see SA.

  41. A-House February 19, 2014 10:18 am

    “more value”:

    ??? ??? ???

  42. Stephen Tsai February 19, 2014 10:24 am

    It’s a good idea not to close the top. The idea should be to increase attendance, not give the illusion the place is fuller. Why worry about what the stadium looks like to pay-per-view subscribers? Hey, it might have the opposite effect. If the place is too full, if i were a UH fan, I would say, ah, I’ll stay home and watch on the big screen.

  43. Aaron February 19, 2014 10:28 am

    even student workers at the university get hit with the payroll lag. when i first started working at hamilton library it took 3 pay periods for me to get my first check.

  44. boolakanaka February 19, 2014 10:32 am

    ST: Exactly, this is the equivalent of putting all the nice chunks of meat on the top of a beef stew plate–only to find out the rest is only potatoes, carrots and bay leaf. What the—? Pretending to have a full stadium, is at the end of the day, still pretending.

  45. Stephen Tsai February 19, 2014 10:41 am

    I was doing a crossword puzzle and one of the answers was “dunce cap.”
    Man, we had some really strange teaching methods back in the day.
    • Dunce caps
    • Writing the same sentence over and over on the chalk board.
    • Castor oil.
    I mean, who came up with castor oil as punishment?!?

  46. Stephen Tsai February 19, 2014 10:43 am

    Conversely, if you go to Whole Foods in Kailua, everyone takes all the meat out of the ladle-your-own-soup bins and leaves only the broth.
    Uh, oh, I just went off on a tangent. I’ve got to stay focused.

  47. blackrose February 19, 2014 10:49 am

    State of Hawaii does the same thing to UH Sports as Whole Food customers do to the soup.

  48. SteveM February 19, 2014 10:50 am

    Good morning everyone!

    RE: #40 and #42
    Good decision. Should be a no-brainer when you would displace/irritate 1/6 of your season ticket holders and force them into less desirable seating in full sections. At least half of them would probably not renew. People get attached to their seats and view locations. Decision makers who sit in VIP boxes probably don’t appreciate this.

    I don’t sit in red/yellow anymore, but they are good seats…choice locations when you compare to 70-100K stadiums. We just have a tropical sun problem when the game starts too early. 👿

  49. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 11:02 am

    Hallelujah—–Mr. ST….here in Manila now 4:21 AM….n lo n behold they will not close off the yellow section at the stadium…but instead look at ways to add value to season ticket holders…

    Finally sumone is thinking positive up there…Mr. Ben Jay…Mahalo…

    Because sumthing positive is been looked at in their marketing dept…I will share my idea to fill those seats..

    FIRST: i am sure you know the exact cost down to the last centavo how much it cost to keep it open. IF you made those seats FREE.. how many more tickets would you need to sell to cover that cost?
    SECOND: Go to the commissioner of Pop Warner Football and have a chat and offer to all Pop
    Warner players (and cheerleaders) FREE admission (or for a buck) any seat in the yellow section
    (except seats for season ticket holders)… don’t be “pake” here..if you offer 50% off it not work…
    DON’T FORGET THE NEIGHBOR ISLANDS…Keep in the back of your mind..that at this age…none of these kids drive…mama or papa will have to drive them…average 4 in a family…purchase 3 tickets for one free… not to bad huh.. that yellow section should be filled…the catch…they must wear their jersey…or no free admission…same 4 cheerleaders..problem most of adults forget how our schools used this ploy to have us attend school functions at our child’s school and still do…
    THIRD: If after the first game it does not completely fill that section… move on to other groups…to fill it…soccer… by sections etc… leeward.. windward…I admit many small details to be worked out.. but worth a try…ask for help.. many on this board are willing to help.. get sum minds can be worked out..IMUA … the podogee mafia is alive n well in Manoa…

  50. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 11:10 am

    CONGRATULATIONS TO…. Bryan Ho of Waimanalo…. 25 years of driving 4 UPS….accident free…wonder how many miles he has driven in 25 years…he must know every puka in his area of delivery..

  51. Inyoface. February 19, 2014 11:22 am

    What’s the average age of people on here? I’m sure not too many 20 somethings.

  52. kaimiloa February 19, 2014 11:26 am

    I wouldn’t mind being my “average age” again. 22 was a good time.

  53. NotNasti February 19, 2014 11:48 am

    Get choke, or uku planny?

  54. NotNasti February 19, 2014 11:52 am

    45. ST: I dunno if this was a Kaua’i thing, but my nursery school and 1st grade teachers would put us (me especially, as urusai as I was) in a headlock and shove a bar of ivory soap down our throats. You know the soap that had been sitting on sink forever? My parents would just say “good for you, you deserve it.”

  55. ai-eee-soos February 19, 2014 11:57 am

    keeping up with the …

    UCLA: Head coach Jim Mora’s new contract, signed last December, will “likely” make him the second-highest paid public school coach in the Pac-12 according to the Los Angeles Times.

    Mora will earn at least $3.25 million in 2014 and a base of $21 million over the next six seasons.

  56. papajoe2 February 19, 2014 11:58 am

    Speaking of fixed streets, one day before they were going to pave my street (they already stripped the top layer), a pipe broke in the street, one house up and across from my house. Board of Water Supply was fixing it into the night, digging a trench to fix the broken pipe. I left the house very early in the morning for golf. When I got home in the afternoon, our street was paved. I felt good driving on a freshly paved street. That same night, a water pipe broke right across 1 house up from the previous one, so BWS tore up the newly paved road. They patched it ugly, but only temporarily. The next day, another pipe under the street, broke 1 house up from the last one. The fixed that one the same way. A few days ago, a crew came by to fix the temporary patches permanently. I asked them about the 1st broken pipe which now has a 2×6 foot indentation in the road. The workers said that it wasn’t in their contract to do that, only the last 2. So now I question how long will the “new” road with its “new” repair last. Also, as a former floor layer, when we lay floors, the floor must be dust free before gluing, other wise the glue will not stick to the floor. They 1st pipe that broke left a whole bunch of mud from its inception and down the street. Did they clean it up before they layed the new asphalt? It being C&C, the mayor will be pau his office by the time the road needs a new layer of asphalt or repairs so he no need worry. Just pass on the pilikia to the next mayor who will say that the previous mayor didn’t leave any money for repairs, and so on, and so on, and so on……………..

  57. Stephen Tsai February 19, 2014 11:59 am

    There are plenty 20somethings tweeting me all the time. I don’t know how to tweet back.

  58. papajoe2 February 19, 2014 12:00 pm

    #54 NN~ now days, parents will file a lawsuit for tramatizing their son/daughter and the state will settle out of court with a handsome payment.

  59. al February 19, 2014 12:07 pm

    i thought it was some sort of law that you must be paid every two weeks or at least twice a month?

  60. al February 19, 2014 12:09 pm

    55…not bad for a public school.

  61. Marleysdad February 19, 2014 12:09 pm

    Castle Park or Wet-n-Wild

  62. gobows February 19, 2014 12:18 pm

    As a kid i always wondered what the hell was a monkey bar (pearl city tavern’s sign). I was fortunately able to find out before they closed. What ever happened to the monkey?

  63. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:19 pm

    Social Clubs (ST, I know you these back in the day, like “precious and few”) or social media ?

  64. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:20 pm

    Ward Warehouse or Ward Centre?

  65. old808 February 19, 2014 12:21 pm

    I’m sure at age 22 was ok for me but man it was too long ago to remember so I’ll stick to the reality of aging like fine wine.

  66. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:21 pm

    Town or Country?

  67. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:22 pm

    Meat Jun plate or vegetarian platter?

  68. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:23 pm

    Eggs and things or Denny’s ?

  69. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:23 pm

    Search take or getting hijacked?

  70. old808 February 19, 2014 12:25 pm

    The problem with the state and city are two many hands stirring the soup in the pot and spoiling the soup.

  71. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:27 pm

    Sam “menehune of da microphone” Kapu or the Honolulu Skylark?

  72. old808 February 19, 2014 12:28 pm

    So I feel for Mr. Ben Jay….”Eh get your freaking ladle outa my pot, no wunda no mo light bulbs” he learning to speak pigeon

  73. obachan February 19, 2014 12:28 pm

    huli huli or koala moa

  74. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:29 pm

    Tihatis or Al Harrington?

  75. old808 February 19, 2014 12:29 pm

    Boolakanak…Sam Kapu had a stint at Queen’s Surf show room and almost sounded like Don Ho.

  76. A-House February 19, 2014 12:29 pm


    you went to a “nursery” on Kauai? what town? you must be a “young’un”.

    that ivory bar would float on water – easy to find when you botcha.

  77. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:30 pm

    Transfer or Bus pass?

  78. old808 February 19, 2014 12:31 pm

    The late Al Lopaka used to sing at place on Ena Road. I can’t remember that club. It got demolished when the area was rebuilt.

  79. Pupule February 19, 2014 12:31 pm

    The median age for the state of Hawaii is 38.5 years (National 36.4). The median age for a male in Hawaii is 37.0 years (35.3). The median age for a female in Hawaii is 40.0 years (37.6).

    All figures are based on 2005 Census records

    The Median age for Tsaikos……probably above 50 based on the comments.
    The Median age for Lurkers……undetermined since they are lurking in the shadows.

    The Median IQ for the Trolls……. 0

  80. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:32 pm

    75, Old808, We all “almost” sound like Don Ho, after a few drinks.

  81. Pupule February 19, 2014 12:32 pm

    Tsaikos or Psychos ?

  82. old808 February 19, 2014 12:33 pm

    Leeward bus company or Wahiawa Transport

  83. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:33 pm

    Canalis or McCully Chop Suey?

  84. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:34 pm

    Winterball or Junior Prom?

  85. old808 February 19, 2014 12:34 pm

    Yes that was the idea back then because Do Ho had a huge impact on the entertainment scene

  86. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:35 pm

    72 VW Bug or 72 Camaro?

  87. old808 February 19, 2014 12:36 pm

    Thats where you took your prom date…Canalis….lol…we went to Evergreens on Kapiolani…sorry no mo money honey

  88. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:37 pm

    Ulua or He’e?

  89. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:37 pm

    87–damn, I forgot about evergreens!!!?

  90. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:38 pm

    Stevedore or long shoreman ?

  91. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:41 pm

    Cindy’s or Lins (lei stands) ?

  92. old808 February 19, 2014 12:42 pm

    Hanohano or Kim

  93. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:47 pm

    Akule or aku?

  94. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:51 pm

    Shoyu Chicken or Chicken Hekka?

  95. al February 19, 2014 12:51 pm

    guys….its canlis’.

  96. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:51 pm

    92–good one!!!

  97. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:52 pm

    Stan Sheriff or Ray Nagel?

  98. al February 19, 2014 12:52 pm

    i would say more appropriate is…
    mccully chop suey or golden duck.

  99. al February 19, 2014 12:53 pm

    canlis’ or michel’s

  100. al February 19, 2014 12:53 pm

    coco’s or tops

  101. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:54 pm

    98–I was trying to ignite a battle of class warfare. Oh, btw, there is still a Canlis in Seattle.

  102. al February 19, 2014 12:54 pm

    sand villa or toppe of the shoppe?

  103. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:54 pm

    Cocos, better hot chocolate.

  104. old808 February 19, 2014 12:55 pm

    ST I want to thank you for putting up this forum for everyone to express themselves. I’ve always found it interesting to hear how people react to the different situations in our beloved state. Personally I’ve always supported any coach who gave of themselves to the program except for one woman’s basketball coach who always seemed to put down his players in the public forum. I’m glad we have Coach Beeman who has this program back on track. I know its tough on Coach Chow but I believe he has good intentions for the football program. He had to change the culture from the previous regimes and the change is for the good.

  105. al February 19, 2014 12:55 pm

    c&k or kalapana

  106. old808 February 19, 2014 12:56 pm

    Al do you remember the night club that was next to Micheles?

  107. old808 February 19, 2014 12:57 pm

    As you entered, Micheles was to the right and a little further back to the left was a night club.

  108. al February 19, 2014 12:57 pm

    willie k or gabby

  109. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:57 pm

    99. Hmmmn–I had two “firsts” at each: at Canlis, first time I ate tartare, and at Michels, first time I washed my hands at at table with lemon and a doile.

  110. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 12:57 pm

    108—Gabby all the way.

  111. al February 19, 2014 12:58 pm

    michel martin had moved around 3x which one?

  112. old808 February 19, 2014 12:59 pm

    Kalapana used to play in this club on the 2nd floor on Kapiolani..can’t remember the name of the place… could it be Top of the Shoppe

  113. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 12:59 pm

    pay checks from the state…he he.. if you are a new hire teacher…when school starts.. bot unsual to get ur first check in october or november…before time when school started in september… maybe december get ur first check.. as a ptsa president before… we used to advance money to the few new teachers every year…principal would handle that…really sad state of AFFAIRS WITH THE STATE PAYROLL SYSTEM…. N SO EASY TO FIX.. JUST HIRE SUM TEMP EMPLOYEES N WORK 3 SHIFTS..till the backlog was caught up..

  114. old808 February 19, 2014 1:01 pm

    State of Hawaii payroll system…no class and no sense of responsibility and what do you hear excuses

  115. old808 February 19, 2014 1:02 pm

    Boolokanaka..Gabby with the barefoot gang at the Queen Surf

  116. al February 19, 2014 1:02 pm

    so my friend makes reservations for michel’s for his first prom date. day before i am teaching him proper ettiquiette, use of tableware in order, etc.

  117. old808 February 19, 2014 1:03 pm

    Sonny Chillingsworth with Myra English at the Blue Dophin room at the Outrigger

  118. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 1:03 pm

    Baby Luau or HS Graduation party?

  119. al February 19, 2014 1:04 pm

    oldone…see 102 and105. read the tie in.

  120. al February 19, 2014 1:06 pm

    michel’s was once on kalakaua ave. maybe the closest nightclub that you went to was the lollipop across the street?

  121. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 1:06 pm

    used to enjoy sonny when he was in kaakako across gems before time…

  122. old808 February 19, 2014 1:07 pm

    Nope Al not the lollipop

  123. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 1:07 pm

    117 nice, would have love to see that …

  124. al February 19, 2014 1:07 pm

    you could be thinking moose mcgillycuddy’s

  125. old808 February 19, 2014 1:07 pm

    Michel’s was next to the Colony Surf

  126. old808 February 19, 2014 1:09 pm

    My memory fails me but Hank Leandro’s group used to play music there

  127. al February 19, 2014 1:09 pm

    in the colony surf

  128. al February 19, 2014 1:09 pm

    who’s hank?

  129. old808 February 19, 2014 1:09 pm

    Ok here is a trivia…which group played at the old City Bowl

  130. old808 February 19, 2014 1:10 pm

    Well that was back in my time Al

  131. old808 February 19, 2014 1:12 pm

    Those were the days we used to go check out the Green Turtle on Kapiolani, Oasis, Beef n Grog, Point After. Russel’s Rowboat, Queen Surf etc

  132. NotNasti February 19, 2014 1:13 pm

    76. A-House: No such thing as preschool during my days, it was called nursery school. So . . . Nursery school, or preschool?

  133. NotNasti February 19, 2014 1:13 pm

    False crack, or blindside?

  134. old808 February 19, 2014 1:17 pm

    False crack, “Wat you like I false crack you or wat”

  135. old808 February 19, 2014 1:19 pm

    Blank, Blank and the Paradise Serenaders

  136. SteveM February 19, 2014 1:24 pm

    February 19th, 2014 at 1:02 pm
    so my friend makes reservations for michel’s for his first prom date. day before i am teaching him proper ettiquiette, use of tableware in order, etc.

    I didn’t know they had chopsticks on the table.

    I recall going to HOSTESS (?) restaurant at the airport one prom night. Was a big deal back then, and had plenty parking…

  137. charsiubao February 19, 2014 1:25 pm

    old808..not sure but I think that was Bobby McGee’s.

  138. old808 February 19, 2014 1:26 pm

    Yes you got it Bobby McGee’s mahalo

  139. old808 February 19, 2014 1:30 pm

    Ok Billy Gonzales and the Paradise I’m getting old

  140. NotNasti February 19, 2014 1:40 pm

    Maile Room, (Kahala Hilton) 1986. Trying to impress my date, I order Steak Tartare, because it said “prepared tableside.” I had no idea what it was. The waiter pushes the cart to my table and says, “sir, how would you like your steak tartare prepared?” I reply, “medium rare.” He says, “excuse me,” and runs off to the side (leaving the cart at my table). I notice that he is doubled over in laughter. A few minutes later, he comes back to my table, and with tears in his eyes, says,”sir, steak tartare is prepared rare, and I was asking you if you would like it prepared spicy or mild? Would you like to change your order?” He then immediately excused himself for a few more minutes (presumably to laugh his head off). When he returned, the hard head in me insisted on having the tartare. So if you order raw hamburger with a raw egg, salt, pepper, worcestershire sauce and dry mustard with crackers, expect to pay $50.00 for it. The comedic entertainment (from me) was free.

  141. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 1:42 pm

    old.. was going to guess… 8 ball n the 10 pins ??

  142. DancingBear February 19, 2014 1:42 pm

    Boysie Rodrigues?

  143. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 1:43 pm

    Notnasti-you are the tackle algebra (see a much earlier post from me ) of the culinary world.

  144. gobows February 19, 2014 1:43 pm

    69 boola

    i got a hunch you used to khadafi peoples lunch money

  145. old808 February 19, 2014 1:45 pm

    Boysie Rodrigues I think I saw him at the Coco Palms on Kauai

  146. old808 February 19, 2014 1:46 pm

    we used to listen to cachi cachi music on north school st in Kalihi…another place the name slips my memory. It will probably come to me later on.

  147. jimmy the lock February 19, 2014 1:47 pm

    g-string or thong

    Damn you guys are so early 20th century. 😆

  148. old808 February 19, 2014 1:51 pm

    Geez Jimmy early 20th century never have gstrings or thong..only had rice bag panties.

  149. NotNasti February 19, 2014 1:55 pm

    143. Boola, did you know you were eating raw hamburger? One of my most embarrassing moments . . . one of.

  150. old808 February 19, 2014 1:57 pm

    Ahhh I remember now…Ayala’s in Kalihi…gotta admit to going there only a couple of times because we got the side eye look from the guys when we checked out the wahines at Ayala’s

  151. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 2:00 pm

    yea old.. me remember that place across the park.. used to have sum good boringke players that park on was good then…

  152. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 2:01 pm

    144 Truth be told, 7th grade I was under 90 pounds, scared silly of the gang of Samoan girls who searched taked all 7th grade boys -I use to tape my two daily quarters to the bottom of my slippas.

    149-Notnasti the appropriate answer is “I’ll have mine with extra hamburger helper.”

  153. old808 February 19, 2014 2:06 pm

    yea the park is called the Joey Desa baseball field which is Farrington HS home field during the baseball season. The left field is short and has an up hill obstacle

  154. Buffoman February 19, 2014 2:08 pm

    Bull Durham or Toscane

    #140 that was funny. Even I had to leave the room!

  155. old808 February 19, 2014 2:08 pm

    We never had that problem with Samoan girls at Aiea. I guess different times.

  156. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 2:10 pm

    mathias..sardinha.. sa… some of them old names…

  157. cocobean February 19, 2014 2:11 pm

    How did Don Ho’s name pop up here?

    Pearly or puka.
    Tiny Bubbles or Tiny Tadani
    I’ll Remember You or Remember the Titans.
    Days of my Youth or back in the day
    Ain’t No Big Thing or Chuck Berry’s My Ding A Ling.
    E Lei Ka Lei Lie or Kamana Wana Lie You

  158. cocobean February 19, 2014 2:12 pm

    lei instead of lie. twice.

  159. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 2:13 pm

    i remember the name ayalas.. but forget where it was ??

  160. Andrew February 19, 2014 2:15 pm

    152. Gang of Samoan girls? Musta not been very hard to outrun or outsmart them.

  161. old808 February 19, 2014 2:26 pm

    St. anthony…Ayala’s used to be on North School St in Kalihi. The club was on the Makai side of North School St. The place closed down. Not too far from the Joey Desa Baseball field.

  162. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 2:28 pm

    144 GoBows here is a true story I have not told too many folks-hopefully the SOL has run it’s course. Back in the day, I loved WAR, so my mom, being a single mom, says she wiil take me. I threw a fit, “no, I wanna go by myself.” I was in 6th grade, she finally relented. A plan was in place, she would drop me off, and then promptly at end of concert, I walk a couple blocks to my uncle’s place on beretania.

    Everything is going to plan, she drops me off, I’m walking into HIC, and I hear a “hui, bullie”, dats right, this Samoan bruddha jacked me right before the concert; taking my ticket and my money for Washington saimin afterwards. I was so pissed. I sprint to my uncles house, crying , dat small kid crying, where no real words are coming out. Finally, I spit it out, Samoan took my ticket!!!! My uncle who was only like 25 or so, puts me in his Javelin (nice, right??!) and we hightail it back.

    I had noticed when we left, he grabbed a small crumpled brown bag, which I thought was his dinner. Well, sole was already gone. He still took me to eat saimin, and so I asked him, oh what about your dinner? He was like “what”, I say ” da brown bag” . He grins, and shows me the contents of the bag–a deuce deuce . My uncle had just got out of OCCC about a month prior. It’s nice to be loved , but it’s even nicer we did not find a sole that night.

  163. rage777 February 19, 2014 2:28 pm

    Al Noga or Niko Noga

  164. old808 February 19, 2014 2:29 pm

    Joey DeSa field is in the Lanikila District Park and no Ayala’s is not across the street but a little further down the road going Ewa

  165. al February 19, 2014 2:31 pm

    bobby mcgee’s later would become moose m’s

  166. al February 19, 2014 2:31 pm

    boyce rodrigues, wow.

  167. al February 19, 2014 2:33 pm

    simebody give petelo some love

  168. midnight February 19, 2014 2:35 pm

    If I remember, Ayala’s was down School Street, near Houghtailing. Hi everybody!

  169. Buffoman February 19, 2014 2:35 pm

    If you can tell me where the Chinese American Club was Located, where the Funny Farm dances were held, you old. Cause the building that now occupies that spot is old.

  170. Joem February 19, 2014 2:36 pm

    Sorry if I missed it but what happened to Don’yeh Patterson?

  171. NorthShoreFan February 19, 2014 2:37 pm

    Bobby McGee’s….Top of the Shoppe…..Country Comfort…Kalapana (still doing some mean concerts) Caught them last year at Dot’s…awesome gig..

  172. old808 February 19, 2014 2:38 pm

    I have fond memories of the old Honolulu Stadium. The Turkey games especially Kamehameha against Farrington, Punahou vs Roosevelt, stock car racing, Hula bowl games, Sunday baseball games, cub scouts and boy scouts makahiki festival, Roy Rogers and Trigger lol

  173. old808 February 19, 2014 2:39 pm

    midnight almost to houghtailing

  174. al February 19, 2014 2:39 pm

    131…we may have crossed paths.
    i may have “asked” you to leave…?

  175. al February 19, 2014 2:41 pm


  176. old808 February 19, 2014 2:41 pm

    Used to go to the Hawaii Islander games from the beginning in 1961 with Carlos Bernier. He had a unique batting stance. He eventually retired and went back home to Puerto Rico.

  177. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 2:42 pm

    Anybody remember the name of the keg and beer service that I think was run by Hal Stringert back in the day ?

  178. SteveM February 19, 2014 2:42 pm

    RE: #140
    NotNasti — At 17.5 years old I was alone on my first cruise in 1967. Had to wear suit and tie to dinner and the first night the menu was entirely in French. I asked which one was french fries and got stares. I waited to see what other peoples plates looked like before ordering by pointing.

    The Maitre’d moved me to different tables….finally setting up a special one for me and the only other two Hawaii passengers on board. Assigned us a very senior Filipino waiter and the luau began… 🙂

  179. old808 February 19, 2014 2:43 pm

    Lol why Al were you a bouncer in one of those places

  180. old808 February 19, 2014 2:45 pm

    I used to see Hal at the Nuuanu YMCA in the weight room

  181. NorthShoreFan February 19, 2014 2:45 pm

    carlos had a huge wad of tobacco tucked in his cheek…said it was to help him see the ball better…..huh?..

  182. al February 19, 2014 2:48 pm

    oldone…we need to have coffee or lunch.
    i ran one of them and patronized many.

  183. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 2:49 pm

    aww ok… yea now me remember. but was close n we used to go there n dance to the cachi cachi music.. n sunday watch baseball there at the park…was called lanikila field that time huh ? n lanikila craft was close by ?.. me was ar schofield that time playing solider..n watching sum very good football there… larry price… skippy gomard…julian monte…gimo souza.. had a bunch of them there that time..

  184. old808 February 19, 2014 2:50 pm

    Yes I remember the wad in his cheek.. I can still see the way he swung the bat

  185. old808 February 19, 2014 2:50 pm

    Al I can say that I was never one those who was asked to leave

  186. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 2:51 pm

    180, yes lot of ex-jocks and cops use to workout there. Detective Hoomalu is one I recall.

  187. old808 February 19, 2014 2:52 pm

    Yes used to be called Lanikila Field before honoring Joey DeSa and changing the baseball field name.

  188. old808 February 19, 2014 2:54 pm

    mahalo for all the memories and as Bob Hope used to sing…thanks for the memories…gotta do my grandpa duties and pickup da kids..doggone I thought I was pau with kiddies

  189. old808 February 19, 2014 2:57 pm

    BTW ST I hope you found all the off the wall trivia interesting to you but we have basketball tomorrow ….GO BOWS….

  190. old808 February 19, 2014 3:03 pm

    One last thing before I go.. I used to go to most of the Fab five games. I was so impressed with Jerome Freeman who made some incredible passes to his teammates and would drive to the basket among the trees and make a spinning move and get the ball in the basket. John Penebacker was the 6’2″ center with lots of hops who was found playing basketball with the Air Force at Hickam. Dwight Holiday was the outside threat and Al Davis picked all the garbage points and Bob Nash was a rebounding hog. He had 30 rebounds in a game and I think it was against Arizona.

  191. Pu'uwai February 19, 2014 3:15 pm

    Golden Duck or Red Rooster (pake kaukau).

  192. HiloBilly February 19, 2014 3:35 pm


    The late Al Lopaka used to sing at place on Ena Road. I can’t remember that club. It got demolished when the area was rebuilt.

    Wasn’t that the ‘Hale Ho?’

    Hey, we used to go to Yoko’s to listen to Leina’ala Haili, lots of good times, then it became a ‘funny kind’ joint for those of other persuasions. A dive, but a good fun one.

  193. 70'sgrad February 19, 2014 3:35 pm

    IRT old808 and NorthShorefan:

    Wasn’t it Top ADA Shoppe? W “Kalapana” and later “Summer”?
    Ever heard of Coconut Tango-Summer’s last cd and title song?

  194. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 3:42 pm

    just got through reading a very interesting n informative article… was trying to find the name of don hollander..who also played at schofield..was a lonesome there at west point.. n found this article on bill carpenter..
    if you have very good n well written..

  195. Crusader Boyz February 19, 2014 3:44 pm

    Best looking girls: St. Francis High vs. Sacred Hearts?

  196. al February 19, 2014 3:47 pm

    i believe it was toppe ada shoppe.
    a great place to enjoy the beverages and music.
    not to mention the wahines that would flock their…

  197. al February 19, 2014 3:48 pm

    magic mushroom or oasis?

  198. al February 19, 2014 3:48 pm

    liz damon n the oe or glass candle?

  199. al February 19, 2014 3:51 pm

    val richards 5 or dimensions?

  200. al February 19, 2014 3:52 pm

    hula hut or tiki?

  201. al February 19, 2014 3:53 pm

    crusader boyz…kalani.

  202. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 3:55 pm

    195: Star of the Sea and HSG….how can I say, they were “friendlier”

  203. NorthShoreFan February 19, 2014 3:55 pm

    Magic Mushroom?…some peeps doing reunion gigs…D1 (if u lurking)…someone you know?

    They been trying to get the old timers together and do a reunion…

  204. jalansky February 19, 2014 3:57 pm

    Speaking of Bernier, one morning, in the late seventies, I was having breakfast at an Osaka hotel, and two Latin ballplayers with Kintetsu Buffalo uniforms on sat next to me. I recognized one of them, Matty Alou, but the other one drew a blank. But he was friendly and we started talking. He asked me where I was from. “Hawaii? Oh, I used to play there.” He turned out to be Winston Llenas, one of the best hitters the Islanders ever had. He told me that those years in Hawaii were the best of his professional career: “weather just like my home country, and really nice people!” He still had his PCL championship ring on.

  205. cocobean February 19, 2014 3:59 pm

    boola. back in 67′ ran into trouble with some “housing girls.” Was walking around Aiea HS with a friend. We cut classes at Kalani to impress some Aiea girls we met a a social. The plan was to walk up to them at lunch recess for that “what are you guys doing here!!” effect.

    After a few minutes we were confronted by a bunch on tough looking girls. “you come hea?” We say no. “wea you go?” Answer “Kalani.” One girl shoves my friend “you betta go or you goin get lickin’s.” A small crowd starts to gather anticipating a beef. Need less to say we got out of there pronto. Thinking was these girls are tough don’t want to run into their boyfriends.

    Later found out later they were girls from Halawa Housing. Thing was I don’t recall any Samoan girls. Mostly Hawaiian/Chinese/Portagee mix types. The leader was a wry Puerto Rican mix girl. She looked like she good beef. To this day I remember her name – Primrose. My friend and I still joke about the day Primrose almost kicked our asses.

  206. old808 February 19, 2014 4:02 pm

    ok back from my grand pa duties now making spagetti. Yes there you go “Hale Ho” or something lidat…and about St. Francis girls back in my time had plenty good looking friendly girls. And Yokos was a fun place where the Laughing Kahunas with Karen Keawehawaii used to do a gig to 4 in the morning. Around two am the mahus used to come in with their big hairdos as well as other entertainers around town.

  207. NorthShoreFan February 19, 2014 4:03 pm

    204…dang I forgot about Winston Lienas….

  208. NorthShoreFan February 19, 2014 4:05 pm

    what was the name of dat place at the corner of King/Waialae…one storage place now but before…Peter Moon and all kinds of great groups used to play there.

  209. old808 February 19, 2014 4:06 pm

    Yes it was Top of the Shoppe on Kapiolani.

  210. Ballpicker February 19, 2014 4:09 pm

    Jim Leahey or Kanoa Leahey?

  211. brah February 19, 2014 4:11 pm

    Moke or Tita

  212. brah February 19, 2014 4:12 pm

    belt or slippah

  213. brah February 19, 2014 4:12 pm

    no wiah hangahs

  214. ClearHeaded February 19, 2014 4:13 pm

    209: Oasis?

  215. brah February 19, 2014 4:13 pm

    pound or pound

  216. NorthShoreFan February 19, 2014 4:13 pm

    Das it…Oasis…

  217. brah February 19, 2014 4:14 pm

    kim chee 1 or kim chee 2

  218. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 4:17 pm

    205:I once saw Bette Middler on an interview, and she called out AHS, by name, and said she use to get beat, every week by local girls, and it was by far the worst period of her entire life.

  219. old808 February 19, 2014 4:21 pm

    Oasis was a place you could go dancing. It was the first place in Hawaii that I saw a strip tease show which was tame compared to now from what I hear lol. The dancer could twirl her tassle with the best of em.

  220. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 4:21 pm

    Kim Chee 2

  221. old808 February 19, 2014 4:22 pm

    I remember Boola…Radford and Aiea didn’t get along.

  222. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 4:22 pm

    Haunani Asing or Haunani Apoliona.

  223. old808 February 19, 2014 4:23 pm

    I think a lot of the lower Halawa housing went to Radford.

  224. Ballpicker February 19, 2014 4:23 pm

    Chuck Leahey or Jim Leahey? What a family!

  225. gobows February 19, 2014 4:23 pm

    was oasis on waialae?

  226. old808 February 19, 2014 4:24 pm

    Apoliona she is such a nice person.

  227. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 4:25 pm

    Old808: Radford had tons of talent back in the day. Folks don’t remember that Homer Jones was all OIA as a Jr at defensive back, all-state senior year at running back.

  228. Ballpicker February 19, 2014 4:25 pm

    Old808, I think that was Arizona St. Nash did that against. They also had a ‘big” who was some sort of all-American. Dat I don’t remember. Cheating if I google it.

  229. old808 February 19, 2014 4:26 pm

    yes Oasis is at the junction where king and Waialae converges. After you pass St Louis Heights rd going ewa, Oasis was on the mauka side. There is a huge storage place that was built after the Oasis was torn down.

  230. old808 February 19, 2014 4:27 pm

    ballpicker I knew someone would get the right team. I wasn’t sure if it was Arizona or Arizona State but hey I got the right state.

  231. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 4:28 pm

    hey.. been wondering .. i know what “meoi” means.. but not what language that is ?

  232. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 4:28 pm

    227: yes she is, and Ms. Asing, was and is a beautiful woman.

  233. old808 February 19, 2014 4:29 pm

    1962 Radford was the ROIA champ with Himmer Henry RB, Mel Saunders FB, Eugene Tokuhama QB and Walter Maze RB

  234. Ballpicker February 19, 2014 4:36 pm

    Yes you did Old808. All good. Very entertaining Warrior Blog the last few days and I had to break my “silence” and threw in my two cents. lmao as ST lamented earlier.
    Hey DPK, howzit my fine man. Imua braddah.

  235. Ballpicker February 19, 2014 4:38 pm

    Where is my glasses? Threw=throw. Over and out…..

  236. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 4:38 pm

    1975 Verner Ah Sing, the Radford, back of the year, averaged over 11 yards per carry for the season. The Punahou transfer, was a holy terror–Verner RIP.

  237. old808 February 19, 2014 4:42 pm

    Was Vasconcellos still coaching in 1975 at Radford? I probably spelt his name wrong. He used to run the power I formation.

  238. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 4:45 pm

    I think kind sir, you are referring to the legend Velasco.

  239. old808 February 19, 2014 4:49 pm

    Yes Velasco I spelt the name wrong.

  240. koakane ip5 February 19, 2014 4:51 pm

    kden update

    Ayala still there but now Mexican resturant. Porarican association or club now underneath in back of resturant

    northshore fan other Islander player was Herbie Phules

    glades or club habahaba

    queen surf or outrigger showroom

    del centros or watertown

    lippy espinda or lucky luck

    aunty genoa or myra english

    nuff already

  241. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 4:52 pm

    velasco…wow that is a truly sports name here in hawaii.. used to enjoy hilo at the haili volleyball tournament…now that was an athlete…used to see him lurking .. at crane park? across leonards..looking for volleyball talent.. after his playing days…maybe many of the kids not knew who he was.. but watching him play was always a pleasure…

  242. old808 February 19, 2014 4:52 pm

    #205 Cocobean I was cracking up about your trip to Aiea. I think Primrose was after my time but the name sounds so familiar. Maybe was a sister of one of my classmates.

  243. old808 February 19, 2014 4:54 pm

    #241 mahalo for the update on Ayala’s and you are correct. I do recall a Mexican Restaurant.

  244. old808 February 19, 2014 4:55 pm

    That was some cachi cachi music back then and pretty Puerto Rican wahines.

  245. koakane ip5 February 19, 2014 5:01 pm

    sorry but gotta put this one in …. HS fight songs Farrington Cherrio, Mckinley’s Black an Gold or Iolani No Ka Oi

    let the debate begin

  246. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 5:01 pm

    241…I use to hit Watertown, underage, to listen to old school Chang–a-Lang Hawaiian music. Kekua Fernandes, Daryl Lupenui…..classic times.

  247. old808 February 19, 2014 5:01 pm

    There is a song about the Lady from Waihole. She was a tiny Okinawan lady who would come down from the valley with her wheel barrow filled with bananas, sweet potatos, papayas and what ever else she grew. I would stop when ever she was there on the highway and buy bananas from her. I visited her at her farm to buy okinawan sweet potato slips to grow but she wouldn’t let me pay her. Her husband had passed away and she would go back to Okinawa every so often. I don’t know why I’m throwing this out but cachi cachi music and the song The Lady from Waihole for some reason triggered that memory.

  248. old808 February 19, 2014 5:04 pm

    Hey what da heck a little trivia.

  249. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 5:17 pm

    aunty genoa..what a treasure…used to go there hotel street area.. she was in a club across some theatre..forgot the name.. with that bald headed piano player…wow late 50’s…good music…

  250. old808 February 19, 2014 5:22 pm

    Aunty Genoa used to play the ukulele and sing on the Lucky Luck Tv show. She grew up in Kahana Valley.

  251. koakane ip5 February 19, 2014 5:27 pm

    if you no remember Farrington fight song go on utube search Cherrio march

    try go bring back old honolulu stadium fball daz

  252. Manoa Mist February 19, 2014 5:28 pm

    Enjoying all the stories about the old days. Carry on.

  253. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 5:30 pm

    Oh, and the Bee Sisters use to also tear it up big time, on the Chang-a-lang circuit. I knew their daughters, great great people….

  254. Truman February 19, 2014 5:32 pm

    Not much time to post today but I see the reminiscing still going on. lol. Ayala’s brings back memories as I was working with two married pretty part puerto rican ladies who recommended going to Ayalas for their pasteles. So, we go in there and I think my friend and I who were single were the only two orientals in that place. We had fun though and used to go for some drinks after work quite often at places like La Manchas. That’s when Manilow’s Copa Cabana song was popular.

  255. kapakahi February 19, 2014 5:33 pm


    Pretty sure it was Ah-Ching and not Asing.

    Also recall that RBs David Yamashiro and Wallace Ho also transferred to Radford (from Iolani).

  256. Truman February 19, 2014 5:35 pm

    Someone brought up Liz Damon and the OE or Linda Green and the Tempos yesterday and that brings back memories. My heart used to miss a beat when I saw those ladies performing. Now, it’s just irregular heart beats.

  257. kapakahi February 19, 2014 5:35 pm


    Never know that Eugene played QB since before my day.

    But now I know to ask him when I see him.

  258. Manoa Mist February 19, 2014 5:37 pm

    Okay here’s an old days story.
    Used to be a club in Pearl City back in the 80s by the old movie theaters in Pearlridge. Met this haole chick. We go out a couple times.
    One day she wants to go to this bar that closes at 4 a.m. in Waikiki. She tells me she used to go out with Don Ho and the bar is where all his boys hang out. She tells me she wants to go but there might be trouble if they see me with her because she’s one of Don’s girls. If there’s trouble we have to leave right away.
    We go, and meet some of the boys. They are the nicest guys typical local brothers they could care less about the chick and who’s she’s with. Ain’t no beeg ting bruddah.
    The chick thought she was a little more special than she was.
    Now days, when it comes to 4 a.m., I’ve usually been asleep for about six hours.

  259. old808 February 19, 2014 5:38 pm

    Ahhh yes Truman La Manchas

  260. Truman February 19, 2014 5:38 pm

    Kapakahi, Asing is close enough, like Vasconcellos or Velasco. When you get old, that’s what happens. Speaking from experience.

  261. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 5:38 pm

    I still recall seeing Kani Kauahi at Hanks Place in Kaimuki, in the late 70s, again out wen I was underage, and he was wearing these unforgettable Palaka slacks…..seeing them like it was yesterday.

  262. Old School Dave February 19, 2014 5:39 pm

    Kaimuki had some good teams under Charley Miyashiro (good guy as well) in the late 60s, early 70s. Players such as Joe Lee, Randy Borden (BYU), Andrew Okada, Henry Koa (Arizona), among others. Still remember that game against McKinley at Honolulu Stadium which was filled with controversy (supposed goal line stanch by the Tigers, while the Kaimuki players said that they crossed the goal line several times). McKinley went on to win the OIA with players such as Chester Grey at running back. To this day, many old time Bulldog backers still talk about that game.

    The Bulldog basketball team with many of the same athletes, along with Al “Spider” Kunewa” went to the State Tournament. Again, my brain might be a little fuzzy after all of these years.

  263. old808 February 19, 2014 5:40 pm

    Yeah Truman Linda Green was hot.

  264. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 5:41 pm

    Gotta throw in some football. One guy that folks never really talk about, but he was with the a Raiders during some of their glory years is Arthur Smith. Played at Radford, was actually a running back, and then played at LB in college, was from around Halawa way. Anyone remember him?

  265. 3-Prong February 19, 2014 5:42 pm

    Wasn’t the restaurant at King and Waialae called Chacos? First time I went out and had to cook for myself. Was ono though.

  266. Old School Dave February 19, 2014 5:45 pm

    I remember back in the day dressing up because we were going to the Pagoda or Pearl City Tavern for dinner. My grandmother, however, never liked the monkeys by the bar 🙂

  267. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 5:46 pm

    Kapakahi, e kala mai, I stand corrected. Ah Ching, his QB?? Matt Manuma.

  268. Old School Dave February 19, 2014 5:46 pm

    Boola: Arthur Smith had an injury plagued career at UH, but played one helluva game at outside linebacker vs USC in 78. Good size guy at 6.1 230 lbs, who could run well.

  269. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 5:47 pm

    263… What duo group did Randy Borden play in?

  270. 3-Prong February 19, 2014 5:47 pm

    256: Played with Jr and Wally. Heard they are doin good nowdays! Jr is on Maui.

  271. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 5:48 pm

    Dats da Braddha -I think he stuck with the Raiders for several years.

  272. 3-Prong February 19, 2014 5:49 pm

    Boo: Jon and Randy

  273. kapakahi February 19, 2014 5:50 pm

    #261. Truman,

    BTW truly a small world…..’cuz I know the Nakakura family that you mentioned the other day. Next door neighbors to family friends…..right above Aiea HS.

    Speaking of Velasco, used to work with his son Kevin and buddy Jay Higgins (both Punahou star athletes) and Roy Villanova (Kalani & Chaminade roundballer) on the hot tarmac as ramp agents for Aloha Airlines.

  274. kapakahi February 19, 2014 5:52 pm


    Yup…..was Chaco’s. Great teppanyaki.

  275. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 5:54 pm

    Also the Nakakuras, wasn’t Shawn ILH lineman if the year for the boys kalepohaku?

  276. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 5:55 pm

    Went to school with some of the older brothers.

  277. Truman February 19, 2014 5:57 pm

    Wow, Kapakahi, it is a small world. If you like you can send me an email at and we can talk more. I don’t see them all the time but I try to stay in touch with them. Speaking of all this music, I gotta go now and take my son to his violin lessons. So, talk to you later.

  278. Boolakanaka February 19, 2014 6:01 pm

    3 prong-mahalo! I remember your QBs, Nolan Arakawa and Len Tsuhako. Len because he was in all the baseball leagues I played in, and you know Aiea is baseball crazy back in the day.

  279. Lar & Celes February 19, 2014 6:06 pm

    Honolulu Dogs or Allison Flyer? Rock and Roll!

  280. NorthShoreFan February 19, 2014 6:12 pm

    Oasis…peeps used to gather for entertainment, good Hawaiian music and night club life…now it’s a gathering place for other things…..

    Islanders…one of my favs…Rod Gaspar

  281. NorthShoreFan February 19, 2014 6:16 pm

    Bo Belinsky

  282. NorthShoreFan February 19, 2014 6:20 pm

    Some pretty good ball players…Hawaii Islanders
    Al Michaels (Announcer)
    Harry Kalas (Announcer)
    Carmen Fanzone
    Barry Bonds
    Bob Lemon (manager)
    Winston Llenas
    Irv Noren (manager)
    Dave Baldwin
    Jay Ward
    Tony Gwynn
    Jim McManus
    Clete Boyer
    Bobby Valentine
    Mark Thurmond
    Jerry Mansfield
    Derek Tatsuno
    Bobby Balcena
    Hank Allen
    Tom Satriano
    Jim French
    George Brunet
    Dick Bosman
    Bobby Knoop
    Fred Valentine
    Bo Belinsky

  283. NorthShoreFan February 19, 2014 6:23 pm

    Does this sound familiar…
    The beginning of the end, however, came when the Islanders moved from rickety Honolulu Stadium to Aloha Stadium in 1976. The new stadium was located in Halawa in west-central Oahu, far from the team’s fan base. Attendance, already in decline, fell even further as fans were unwilling to make the drive. Additionally, the lease with the state government, which owned the stadium, didn’t allow the Islanders to earn any proceeds from concessions or advertising, severely limiting the team’s income. The 1976 pennant winners almost didn’t finish the season when the PCL briefly stripped them of their franchise.[1]

    Its last club, in 1987, finished last in its division and last overall in attendance (under 100,000) in the PCL. By this time, the team’s financial problems were becoming more acute, in part due to what the Honolulu Star-Bulletin called the worst lease in the PCL.[1] Prior to the 1988 season, citing years of dwindling attendance, the team moved to Colorado Springs, Colorado, and became the Colorado Springs Sky Sox.[3]

  284. 3-Prong February 19, 2014 6:31 pm

    Boo: Dats da only two guys I let put dea hands where da sun don’t hit me! No such ting as shotgun back den! hehehehe

  285. Ballpicker February 19, 2014 6:43 pm

    Was Andrew Okada a police officer?

    And there was a Nakakura family also living in Pacific Palisades back in the late 60’s early 70’s.

  286. Ballpicker February 19, 2014 6:55 pm

    John Osorio ?

  287. SteveM February 19, 2014 6:55 pm

    Re: #281 – 283
    NorthShoreFan — “Rocket” Rod Gaspar and the 3rd baseman John Werhaus. Les Keiter doing the radio re-creactions…

    Tommy Lasorda was the colorful manager for Spokane (?) that we loved to jeer. People threw unopened bags of peanuts and stuff at him in the 3rd base coaches box at Honolulu stadium. He would turn around, check it out, and put the bags in his pockets.

    Yeah, Aloha stadium seemed large and sterile. My dad and I stopped going after two seasons there.

  288. Ballpicker February 19, 2014 6:58 pm


    I remember Walt “No Neck” Williams as the first Islander that I liked.

  289. Ballpicker February 19, 2014 7:00 pm

    And SteveM, that’s what I also remember. The opponents of the Islanders, especially the Eugene Emeralds and the hated Spokane Indians. Those were the days.

  290. al February 19, 2014 7:11 pm

    yup…andrew o. hpd.

  291. old808 February 19, 2014 7:50 pm

    Don’t forget Chuck Tanner coach, Dick Kitamura whose grandson played for UH and was our third baseman last year. I just enjoyed Carlos Bernier. He hit in the mid 300s and was colorful. Bobby Presscot was one of the stars during the first year and hit .302

  292. Buffoman February 19, 2014 7:56 pm

    #263 you may have forgotten Ricky Furuyama, running back for the Bulldogs back in the day.

  293. Ballpicker February 19, 2014 8:02 pm

    Al, Had the pleasure of working with Andrew O, albeit as a rookie. lol

  294. Biggestuhfan February 19, 2014 8:03 pm

    204 Jalansky – my dad’s good friend, Jyun “Curly” Hirota played for Kintetsu. He later became the U.S. Scout for them. I still have a Kintetsu Buffaloes hat somewhere. He had some great stories about life in pro ball. He later became events manager at Aloha Stadium, which is why my dad and I got to see so many Islander games in the late 70’s/early ’80’s. RIP Uncle Jyun. Thanks for the memories Jalansky!

  295. moocher February 19, 2014 8:06 pm

    islanders….how about john matias, played in the majors and for the islanders. was also my coach when i played at pearl city.

  296. Biggestuhfan February 19, 2014 8:07 pm

    283. – don’t forget Julio Cruz on loan from the Mariners!

  297. jalansky February 19, 2014 8:12 pm

    The Chuck Tanner team, in his second year as manager, drew a lot of fans to Islander games at the Termite Palace. Crowds of 13,000–15,000 were not uncommon. During that year, I remember attending an A’s game at the Oakland Coliseum, and being among only 5,000 or so people there. We who experienced the Tanner years in Hawaii witnessed one of the most enjoyable and successful minor league teams in the history of Triple-A baseball, in one of the most fan-friendly stadiums for baseball anywhere.

  298. Slugger February 19, 2014 8:24 pm

    Lotsa reminiscing. Used to go to a lot of Islander games since we lived maybe 5 blocks away. I still have a HI Islanders patch.

    Good night, Irene….

  299. tommui February 19, 2014 8:37 pm

    #238 Forgot the years but Ticky was at Roosevelt and Hank at UH.

  300. tommui February 19, 2014 8:44 pm

    #169 Buffoman – The Chinese American Club on Kapiolani Blvd – think the property is where the Marco Polo Condo is located.

    Was not a member – won’t join a club that would have me as a member.

  301. whitey February 19, 2014 8:58 pm

    mama dings on maui is owned by the frank caravalho family. he is from lanikila, but he has passed on. roy v, bb player for chaminade, retired from the state corrections lives in wailuku. the hc coach at radford velasco’s son is married to hinano kaumeheiwa’s daughter and lives on maui.

  302. Truman February 19, 2014 8:59 pm

    #276, Boo, this Nakakura clan was all girls.

  303. whitey February 19, 2014 9:00 pm

    counselor, and the other brother of ticky and hank was a policeman on maui.

  304. whitey February 19, 2014 9:02 pm

    and liz damon is a casino hostess at the fremont hotel in las vegas.

  305. Truman February 19, 2014 9:02 pm

    Lots of Islander memories. I believe Bob Quinn was the owner when it was going good.

  306. Truman February 19, 2014 9:04 pm

    #301, Tom-interesting comment “won’t join a club that would have me as a member”. Curious as to why?

  307. Buffoman February 19, 2014 9:06 pm

    #301 brah, you are a bit more seasoned than me. That was an interesting place.

  308. kapakahi February 19, 2014 9:08 pm

    #276. Truman,

    If the same family, then just know that youngest daughter living with Dad at the same house after Mom passed away unexpectedly about 5 years ago. Remembered that the eldest daughter is a dentist. Haven’t kept in touch. Used to see them at their neighbor’s Xmas party…..awhile back.

  309. Truman February 19, 2014 9:09 pm

    #263-OSD, speaking of the McKinley Tigers and Chester Grey, was that the same year they had Ron Autele at QB? Had some friends on that team.

  310. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 9:14 pm

    tommy..did you know sam king ?

  311. jalansky February 19, 2014 9:31 pm

    295-Biggestuhfan: from a reliable source, I heard that Jyun Hirota used to commute by train & bus from Ewa to attend McKinley High School, because he wanted to play baseball. Back when Mr. Hirota played in Japan, I believe the team was known as the Kintetsu Pearls. BTW, Winston Llenas was very unhappy in Japan. In that conversation I had with him, he told me that he had never in his life felt so lonely while being surrounded by so many people. Maybe that is why Hawaii shone so brightly in his memory.

  312. kev-1 February 19, 2014 9:36 pm

    Here’s my solution to the stadium seating issue:

    OK, so no closing of the upper decks? How about only closing the upper decks in the end zones? Leave the blue and orange sections open and there will be enough open seats in other upper deck areas to relocate displaced season ticket holders to comparable seats.

    That won’t save the same amount of money. However, instead of leaving the empty seats in the closed upper decks of the end zones, how about covering them with advertisement banners? You see stadiums that have empty seats covered with school colored canvas or some type of cover so you don’t see rows of empty seats. Why not sell advertising space on those covers to make a bit of money? Money goes to UH Athletic Dept., not the stadium.

  313. al February 19, 2014 9:40 pm

    jalansky…you just jarred my childhood memory of ray jabbo” jablonski.

  314. al February 19, 2014 9:41 pm

    a classic…
    sashimi or poke’?

  315. al February 19, 2014 9:48 pm

    autele, a 4 year starter, grad in 1970, so yah he was the qb in 1969.

  316. al February 19, 2014 9:51 pm

    its spelled chako’s. believe it was named after manager/owner jimmy f.’s gf who was a dancer.

  317. al February 19, 2014 9:54 pm

    jalansky…i know when bo belinsky pitched busloads would attend.

    then along came tats.

  318. Truman February 19, 2014 9:55 pm

    #316-al, thanks for confirming that bit on Autele. I remember hanging out with my McKinley friends and seeing him at one of the pool halls. Being a country boy, I was kinda lost where that pool hall was located but I remember warehouse type buildings somewhere between Kakaako and the Ala Moana Shopping Ctr. I guess lot of McKinley grads since it was close. Anyone who can remember those pool halls will clear one of those clouded memories of mine.

  319. SteveM February 19, 2014 10:03 pm

    RE: #313
    kev-1 I think people have their definite preferences as to sideline or endzone. The endzone buffs say they can watch the holes open up better and really see redzone plays on their end well. The sideline guys say they get better depth perception as to gain or loss on a play.

    I’m a sideline guy, but many here swear by the endzone seats. I imagine this basic seating location preference applies to most.

  320. jalansky February 19, 2014 10:06 pm

    318-al: the Tatsuno era at UH was something else. Against Oregon or Oregon State (I can’t remember), he struck out 20 batters in a 9 inning game. I was there. Great times.

  321. al February 19, 2014 10:06 pm

    termite palace aka honolulu stadium factoid…
    directly across from the center most rear gate where the parking lot was there was a men’s restroom.
    directly next to it was a fenced in compound with what appeared to be a storage room.

    did you know there resided the caretaker of the stadium?

    a bachelor no doubt, this hunched over guy also had one big black german shepherd. who he let out when the facility was closed. you may have stepped on one of his piles. me and a neighborhood kid found this out the hard way one day after we hopped the wall to go check it out. we must have been 8 years old.

    i wonder what happened to him after they shut down the old stadium.

  322. al February 19, 2014 10:08 pm

    321. me, too.
    he was a big draw with the islanders, too.

  323. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 10:10 pm

    yea me remember a pool hall there owned by a japanese dude.. skinny guy named allen… forget the name…had sum very big time 9 ball games go on there…last 4 days.. n big bucks lost.. by a taxi driver.. who welched on his bets… n could not collect cauze he was backed by the so called “syndicate” then…maybe i would not be here today if my partner lost he he.. but he was very good when it came to playing for money… had quite a few tables in there…n was just in back of ed n dons thinks on kona street…

  324. al February 19, 2014 10:10 pm

    319…that was cruel and inhumane. now, i’ll be up all night trying to recollect.
    i can picture it in my mind’s eye.


  325. al February 19, 2014 10:11 pm

    i think in the sheridan st area or near where side street inn is??

  326. SteveM February 19, 2014 10:14 pm

    Al — regarding Truman’s #319, I’m not saying anything… 🙄
    Oh, he said “McKinley grads“… OK.

  327. al February 19, 2014 10:14 pm

    324… i believe i know the cab driver. but, i won’t disclose his identity for safety reasons….wink.

  328. al February 19, 2014 10:15 pm


  329. 3-Prong February 19, 2014 10:16 pm

    whitey: Sad to hear about Frank Srs passing. Is Jr still running Mama Dings? Frank, Mary, Jr and Eugene were close friends. Good people the Caravalhos.

  330. al February 19, 2014 10:18 pm

    324…ummmm. did you say you had a partner???

  331. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 10:27 pm

    yea he was filipino from haleiwa…had a hasu patch..was his fathers i think..n he n sister inherited..
    we had a import company.. selling german stereos..telefunken..good souns.. n the wood was good.. big consoles..when you played a command record… know you was really listening to music.. especially if was like mantovani…they had sum good artists on there label.. bat only remember him now..

  332. Truman February 19, 2014 10:28 pm

    st. anthony trojan/al, it would be in that area and yeah, they had a lot of tables. I think I remember walking up some metal stairs to get in?? Maybe not, could have been cement, lol. It’s been bugging me for years.

  333. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 10:35 pm

    think his name was gary….??

  334. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 10:37 pm

    well this was down stairs.. so cannot be the one..was c;ose to piikoi st.. n next was the shopping center..had gas station on the carner there.. n was close to sears side..

  335. Truman February 19, 2014 10:57 pm

    st. anthony trojan, I meant like a porch stairs like a cement foundation; not second floor. It could be the one because I don’t think there were a lot of other pool halls (with a lot of tables) in the area (I could be wrong as I wasn’t into checking them all out).

  336. cocobean February 19, 2014 10:58 pm

    #316. Pretty sure Ron Autele grad 69′. My senior year 67-68′ spent many a day “visiting” Mckinley. Got to know him and his boys think they called themselves the Pharaohs.

    #319. The Mckinley class cutters used to hangout at a pool hall they called “Sheridan’s.” Went there a couple of times but can’t picture where it was now. I remember they took me to a lunch room called Torii’s. A lot of food for prices lower than any drive in and most lunch wagons. Anyone remember Torii’s>

  337. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 11:00 pm

    his was the only one me remember n frequent… did not know ne others.. but my eyes were bad n stilll bad.. so never shot.. buy lot of my friends just hung out there..

  338. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 11:04 pm

    yea that area.. all look the same..the waikiki side of ward.. coral…kawaihao..kona streets.. many small business in there before time..

  339. old808 February 19, 2014 11:13 pm

    There was a pool hall on Kapiolani Blvd fronting the Ala Moana Shopping Center on the ground level. I used to shoot pool in the complex that has City Mill on St. Louis Heights Dr. The pool hall was in the back below st level. Used to play at Farrington Billards.

  340. old808 February 19, 2014 11:14 pm

    don’t get me started on bowling alleys lol

  341. Truman February 19, 2014 11:15 pm

    cocobean, where was that hall located? on sheridan st.? My recollection is hazy so it could have been on that side but I thought it was more makai.

  342. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 11:17 pm

    oops wrong waimanu street…me look the map.. n queen street

  343. old808 February 19, 2014 11:19 pm

    Classic bowl, Boulevard Bowl, City Bowl, Bowl-a-Drome, Nanakuli, Aiea, Leeward Bowl, Pali Lanes, Windward bowl, Kalihi Bowl, Waialae, Aloha Bowl, 2nd floor on Hotel st near the old Ymca forget the name but had pin boys and maybe 4 to 5 lanes, Kaimuki….just civilian not counting the military.

  344. old808 February 19, 2014 11:20 pm

    and now I say good night

  345. Truman February 19, 2014 11:24 pm

    Pharoahs, reminds me of Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs.

  346. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 11:25 pm

    me remember the one across the y…. used to go there for haircuts… at the y …when i had hair.. was filipino angel cut my hair he he he

    sleep well old…

  347. Truman February 19, 2014 11:27 pm

    Goodnite old808, goodnite al, goodnite st. anthony trojan (sorry, too much waltons).

  348. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 11:31 pm

    nite truman..take care.. have a good sleep

  349. st. anthony trojan February 19, 2014 11:33 pm

    only 5:30 pm here now.. go eat.. nite all …

  350. cocobean February 19, 2014 11:36 pm

    #340. Cue N Cushion on Kapiolani run by the Sakuma family. The St. Louis one was called River Side owned by Eddie Tanaka. Wasn’t into shooting pool. Pool halls for me was more about playing the nickle machines, trying to pick up girls or scoring some paka.

    Funny thing is I starting shooting pool on weekends about two years ago. Sure wish I’d learn the basics of the game when I was a teenager rather than at 60+.

  351. papajoe2 February 19, 2014 11:39 pm

    Remember National Billards?
    Herbie Plews.

  352. al February 19, 2014 11:56 pm

    cocobean… i believe you are spot on with the younger autele ’69. now that i got my chronology in order.

    i guess my recollection ain’t that bad though on the sheridan st pool hall.
    ad to that list of halls, university pool hall, campus cue, and wasn’t there a rainbows?

  353. al February 19, 2014 11:58 pm

    rainbow cue at the top of kalakaua ave. freddy ran the joint. plenny action.

  354. al February 19, 2014 11:58 pm

    nationals rings a bell?

  355. al February 20, 2014 12:00 am

    meanwhile i hope gib snags the big aypussie.

  356. al February 20, 2014 12:00 am

    oops fat fingers…

  357. al February 20, 2014 12:08 am

    finally…what an upgrade.
    to preface, i like tony tuioti and i thought kaumeyer was fine person.

    our staff ahas come along leaps and bounds of late.
    jordan. wynn fulltime with qbs and in the booth vs non-existent oc
    kurt gouveia vs tony tuioti
    doug clune vs kaumeyer
    naeole vs who was it?

    all appears to be upgradesb

  358. SteveM February 20, 2014 12:57 am

    cocobean — your #337 got it and Al didn’t have to confess to anything. 🙂

    I used to play nickel machines at Island Que during my UH years and after…which is probably why I never found slot machines very exciting.

  359. charsiubao February 20, 2014 6:42 am

    old808 ..tink you forgot about kapiolani bowl, stardust lanes, and ewa bowl.

  360. tommui February 20, 2014 7:24 am

    #311 St Anthony Trojan.

    Sam and I had lunch about 2x a week for some 40-50 years

  361. tommui February 20, 2014 7:27 am

    #307 Truman

    Because the club obviously wasn’t very selective 😉

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