Six QBs invited to training camp
Quarterback Corey Nielsen is not on the Warriors’ preliminary training-camp roster.
Instead, he will join the team Aug. 23, the first day of UH’s fall semester, when the training-camp roster may expand from 105 players.
Bryant Moniz, Shane Austin, Brent Rausch, David Graves, Cayman Shutter and Kevin Spain are the quarterbacks on the training-camp roster.
Nielsen, who is on scholarship, has gained about 10 pounds while training in Southern California. Next week, he will work out with Ryan Grice-Mullins, a former UH slotback now with the Miami Dolphins.
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Former UH safety Leonard Peters has been promoted to the top U.S. rugby team. He is back in Hawaii for a couple of weeks before resuming training.
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Sad to hear about the death of Chief Justice Richardson. He was a good man, as well as a passionate UH fan.
Personal note: I used to be his chauffeur during UH basketball road trips. He also served as justice for the renewal of wedding vows.
He’ll be missed.
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wow…my first first on the new star/advertiser’s edition of the world reknowned “warrior beat”.
Wow. Al. That was fast.
so is it safe to assume that corey nielsen may come back as a slotback???
didn’t he run 4.6 in high school?
let’s see…wasn’t davone bess also a one time quarterback??
we’ll need a lot of slots next year…this could be corey’s ticket.
i just opened it up…and bam! new post. timing is of the essence in all things.
I think he still is training to be a quarterback.
I think Nielsen would do well as a slotback. But somebody has to want to make the change, and I don’t know if he’s ready to abandon being a quarterback yet.
Maybe the next step is to get onto special teams. I remember Moniz volunteered to play special teams last year.
al,
Interesting conclusion… but he also could be leraning the passing patterns from Ryan, too. Hmmm… I suppose both are the same.. You have to be in the mind of one or the other to play either position.. QB or Slot.
6 QBs! Can’t wait to see how the players start to pan out in training camp. Let’s pray for an injury free camp!
Hey?! Sorry.. .. forgot to say..
Good Morning all!
awhile back, st reported that nielsen was sidelined with an irregular heartbeat, is that no longer an issue?
You should come out to unsupervised workouts today. I believe they start at 3:45.
Warning: Bring sunscreen. And sunglasses. And a sunny attitude.
Hope Nielsen proves the coaching staff wrong.
good morning to you too mih…
Al:
Believe everything turned out to be OK.
It’s a numbers thing.
It’s not an easy thing. I mean, people want to root for Shane Austin, and for Brent Rausch, and for David Graves …
Everybody has a story.
I want to see how it all shakes out.
ST,
How long are they usually out there for their workouts?
Al ~ Aced me again! This morning it was a pure case of “Too Much Wet, Not Enuff Wild!”
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Good Morning Tsai-kos!
There are a fair amount of bracelet donations coming in as a response from posters on other UH forums as well as our always generous Tsaikos. Hmmm… I noticed a lot of people want to remain anonymous. There is a mix of checks and online donations.
Where we are at this point is unknown, gotta ask Pomai that.
Kazz:
Duration of workouts depends on the number of players, particularly DBs.
They usually go a little longer in the afternoon. Morning practices are limited because of summer-session classes.
(By the way, interesting how it’s now known as “summer session” instead of “summer school.” Words are deeds.
Not surprising that Nielsen is not on the training camp roster. The limited Spring practices I watched, I don’t think I saw him take any snaps during 7on7 or 11on11. He bascially stood on the side.
Not meant to put him down but I honestly think he should look for playing opportunities elsewhere. Can’t believe this was Mac’s first scholarship offer. What a waste.
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Good morning Tsaikos…hope all is great in the 808….and beyond…MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
And it will be interesting to see how things pan out for all the QBs….hopefully, they will get their rythym down with the rest of the O so that they can click on all cylinders when the season starts…
Kekoa (iPhone) Says:
June 21st, 2010 at 8:42 am
Al ~ Aced me again! This morning it was a pure case of “Too Much Wet, Not Enuff Wild!”
hmmm. kekoa needs to explain the wet n wild part? it just didn’t come off right…
that doghouse…is it large enough to accomodate a grown man…say koakane for example?
stretch…i was thinking along the same lines.
Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂 🙂 🙂
al,
being first yesterday was just the start of a great Faddah’s Day for me. 🙂
Lots o’ quarterbacks! Competition is good. May the best man win and lead us to victory over the Trojans in that first game!
How many more days ’til football?
GO WARRIORS!!!
good sunny monday morning to everyone
next a belated father’s day to all the tsaiko papa’s. trust your families made it worth while. talk about fuuud had to do 2 naps yesterday bwhaaaaaaa.
welcome back to al
kope hour now ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
tsai is that guy going to put back the number or is it just me not seeing it posted. also can he do a larger left margin?
Any new word on the Coaching candidates?
Good morning!
ST ~ Thanks for letting us know what time the workout was going to be today.
Nielsen didn’t get many reps at spring practices. Because of that, it’s hard to form an opinion on how well he would do as a QB. Good to know that he is working with Ryan & gaining weight. Any way he can contribute to the team, all the better, whether as a QB or in other positions.
The first thing I remember about Nielsen is how much he loved the program when he was still in HS. It’s always great to see mainland kids have that much passion for their college choice right out of the gate, and with Nielsen having local ties, it was sort of expected too.
But yes, he hasn’t gotten much reps and with three freshmen QBs last season and David Graves joining in this season, transfers were inevitable and I expected them if they were to happen.
RE: Cory Nielson…
Stranger things have happened. The shorter guy with no picture on the UH Roster and only one year on the team leads the QBs corps. Right behind him are guys with 3 and 2 years on the team.
Stretch Says:
June 21st, 2010 at 9:02 am
Not surprising that Nielsen is not on the training camp roster. The limited Spring practices I watched, I don’t think I saw him take any snaps during 7on7 or 11on11. He bascially stood on the side.
Not meant to put him down but I honestly think he should look for playing opportunities elsewhere. Can’t believe this was Mac’s first scholarship offer. What a waste.
Huh? This doesn’t sound like the real stretch to me. It doesn’t sound like something he would say, especially saying something negative directed towards the coach. What I’m guessing is that people are fed up with looking the other way.
Al ~ Ya gotta get up early to keep up with the Wessai Chaptah! Here’s a recap of what went down this AM:
Al ~ Had a feeling you would zip in front and be the first to post, ’cause was only me and jmxxxx hangin’ around the start line!
Good morning everyone!
Didn’t JJ have 8 quarterbacks at one time? Like he said, the QB is usually one of the best all-around athletes on a high school team, so might play/develop elsewhere. Anyone remember a UH QB prospect who got significant playing time in another position?
Steve M….Bernard Quarles…
I’ve often wondered why we carry so many QB’s on the roster. Yes, injuries are always a concern. Academics can also creep in. Personal problems sometimes play a part. Plans to red/gray shirt also is in the mix. Overall, if none of these things have an affect, we still have 6 to play 1 position.
What’s wrong with this picture? I would think 4 QB’s would be more than enuff. Those other 2 schollies could go to O-linemen. Protect!
Speaking of Oline – any word on 2011 Oline and Dline recruits? anyone from the midwest?
any word on offers after the “big man” camp? oh yea, ST mentioned offers were made, dunno when, but coaches are waiting for response. will the players play the game and wait for BCS schools to make an offer?
hope Coach Shaw can improve the “quick feet” movement of all the Oline – but, it’s the players who must have the heart to practice on their own, and I mean really on their own, to become better players – seen too many kids who practice only when necessary with NO practice on their own – can even be at home!
ST,
Why was Corey limited in reps during the spring, mostly standing on the sidelines?
Good morning Tsai-kos!
Football news. Yeah.
Congrats and good luck to Leonard Peters.
ST,
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Didn’t Corey Neilson come to UH with one of his teammates? What ever happened to that cat?
Poor guy can’t even make the top 6. He is not even on the headset or clipboard holding depth chart.
Re: Corey Nielson. Hope he keeps working on improving himself physically and mentally. Stranger things have happened. I think it was back in 1981 or 82 that UH lost its first three QBs. Bernard Quarles came down with appendicitis, Ralph Cherry blew out a hammy, Steve Rhakshani quit over the summer. The coaches converted WR Tim Lyons (orginally recuited as a QB) and he led the team to 7 straight wins and a national ranking.
kekoa…oh, i see. me not an a.m. person, nocturnal yes.
qb question resolved…for the run and shoot the one position that needs to have that “one and only” is the quarterback. gotta have the trigger man or without it the run don’t shoot. thus the search for the “holy grail” is on going and constant.
in college football, i’ll bet that the qb position is the most often transferred position. the ladder goes mostly down as many former d1 qb prospects go down the ladder or elevator to lower level teams in need of a solid qb just to get some pt (playing time). qb is one position that most back ups don’t get much reps in practice and especially games.
an example of sorts is…bo levi mitchell. remember him? he was recruited by june jones to hawaii and committed to the warriors. however, when june bolted to smu the qb followed him. he became an instant hero starting all 12 games his freshman year leading the smu revival. the following year he entered as the starter. halfway through the season he injured his shoulder and was sidelined.
enter kyle padron who led smu over nevada in the hawaii bowl. the rest is history…bo levi mitchell left smu this january and will compete for the qb position at eastern washington.
Good morning…
Corey was third in the nation in passing in high school in a Run and Shoot offense. I don’t understand how he doesn’t even get reps at practice?
bb…it was deondre powell who was signed out of gahr hs with corey nielsen. however, powell never made it through the academic roadblock.
the sad part about our recruiting has been is that we signed many guys knowing that they would not make it through the ncaa clearinghouse. many local kids as well as some other highly regarded mainland kids signed loi even though the chances of them getting through the academic hurdles were extremely difficult or nearly impossible.
personally, i don’t like that because although on paper in the beginning it looks like we had an outstanding recruit class, but, in reality when all the non qualifiers fell out of site the class became ordinary.
why not just go after the ones who will qualify and at least retain proper numbers?
wwf…my understanding of corey’s plight is that he fell to the two inch rule. his recruit stature indicated that he was 5’11”.
Blaine Gaison started at QB for UH but later played DB. Went on to NFL career as a DB.
raphel cherry also went from uh qb to nfl safety.
WWF:
Not sure how the evaluations go.
The coaches take into account of things the average fan — and reporter — don’t see.
But Nielsen’s a nice kid, so I’m sure if he works hard, good things will happen. And even if he doesn’t play a lot, or at all, there is something to say about camaraderie, bonding, etc.
These are the character years, I’m told.
Al:
You’re correct about Powell. I think when he was signed, there was a strong feeling he wouldn’t make it. But he was worth the risk.
Recruiting is an inexact science. You have to look at a player and envision what he will be like in three or four years.
Also, when a player is signed in February, there’s still a lot of time to get complacent academically. Remember, nobody is really academically eligible until graduation. Well, unless you’re Billy Ray Stutzmann.
papajoe2:
yes, Blaine Gaison who came to UH via Kamehameha as a QB turned DB and turned QB in the 2nd half against Arizona St where UH won at Aloha Stadium – just a great game by UH.
Arizona St MLB was the kid from St Loius who was rated by several publications as the #1 MLB in the country as a senior in high school – funny, never heard of him after the UH game at Aloha Stadium.
al:
your unknown/known just qualified high school bigman – u tink Coach Gib may be after him? Coach may be torn between using the last scholarship on another player than Andre.
perhaps Andre will not enroll at Nebraska and enroll at UH instead – wonder what Nebraska’s BB coach will do then – still keep Andre tied to his signed LOI? – that would be foolish as he could use it to secure the services of another player – maybe he and Coach Gib and make a trade – Andre for Johnson?
ok… i’m a bit frustrated that bsu is leaving the wac and that the walls are trembling. texas saved the world…for now.
can we at least beat bsu this year?
bsu has always been the one game circled on our schedules. this year it has even more meaning since this could be our last episode with them. i can still feel the reverberations from that 2007 game at the aloha.
beating them this year would have all the more meaning.
I agree with ST at 12:15. Recruiting is an inexact science, but I feel it’s further exacerbated with inferior coaching. True? Hmm.
Wasn’t there a year when BYU was ranked as high when they came a visiting? Anything is possible.. on any given game day. Maybe they should show highlights of the BYU game to the team just before game day.
I say we should beat the crap outta Boise as a going away present.
Rugby is a sport I like to watch, it would be great to Peters at the fly half spot. I bet he’s gonna get better and better.
BSU leaving the WAC frustrates me a whole lot less than the WAC not preparing itself for the eventuality of it. The WAC always knew that BSU was looking for the first opportunity to exit. They knew that the way BSU was ripping it’s way through the WAC season after season that it wasn’t going to be to far into the future… The WAC head office knew and did nothing. Sat on the toilet with it’s pants down… with nothing coming out the head office.. they’re still there … caught with their pants down and still full of …..
Yeah, Tim Lyons, the converted QB, was working out at WR for about a year when they told him to go back to QB. Problem was that he hadn’t worked on his throwing and developed a chronic shoulder problem during the 81 season and was never the same. UH went 9-2 that season losing to BYU something like 13-3 on National TV (ABC).
Kent Untermann was another QB recruit coming out of HS who converted to and became a pretty good Tight End after his Freshman year.
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As of 06/21/2010, the total of the checks he has received as of today, 06/21/2010, and those that donated online AND e-mailed him their donation amount, we are roughly at 30% of our goal.
This started less than a week ago so GOOD JOB SO FAR!!!!
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mih:
why on earth are you putting out a disclaimer? I’ve siad a lot of worse things in the past and, somehow, having mellowed, I think Benson is a horses a– for sitting on his ass about conference alignment. If this is not so, let him speak to explain his position(s) or someone at UH speak in his behalf. Then, let the supporters decide if they want to continue to support UH.
Jim D did point on leahy & leahy last Wed its not all Bensons fault as the WC presidents, chancellors and ADs are also to blame for the laxity in the WAC direction/plan. But, to accept Benson’s plan of adding D1AA schools only pulls the WAC further down in competing for better TV schedules, revenues, etc. And, the very poor “out of conference” record will only make it worse. IF the WAC Presidents/Chancellors are looking for an “ivy league” mentality, then say so and let the athletic director make choices to support their decision or quit.
more recently, Chad Kapanui was recruited as a QB. could throw a football 70+ yards. linebacker?
A-House, the linebacker from St. Louis that went to Arizona State was named Apuna. I forget his first name.
A-House Says:
June 21st, 2010 at 12:15 pm
papajoe2:
I remember that game against ASU in 79. That was the year that Frank Kush got fired after he hit his punter at practice. St. Louis grad Wayne Apuna was a starter against UH as a freshman linebacker. ASU had another freshman linebacker by the name of Vernon Maxwell, who went on to the NFL. Apuna was impressive to watch, 6.3 245 lbs, could run well – back in those days you didn’t see too many local athletes like him.
I remember the start of the game, UH fans were fairly hospitable to Apuna – “eh, local boy doing good at a Pac-10 school”. However, after a couple of animated solo tackles, the crowd turned on him with stuff like, “go back to Arizona” and “you #$%@!! traitor”. Sadly, I think he got tripped up by academics and never played much after that.
Wayne
Hmmm… debating if I should stop by UH after work.
I do get off at 4:15-ish but won’t get to Manoa until a little after 4:30 or so. By then they may be halfway done with workouts…
That St. Louis DT who ended up as an ASU Mike backer is actually Kekoa’s nephew. He was a freshman All American that year. He was a very fine football player. After some academic and personal issues, football eventually took a back seat to real life. Quite unfortunate. He was an exceptional football player.
Great Afternoon All!
First off, Mahalo to Stephen and the WB for the two-nite stay we won on the blog contest last year…we finally got to make use of it and had a terrific time at PowderPuff’s workplace….
why are people bashing coach mack because corey neilson isn’t in the top 6 qbs??? some recruits pan out right away and some don’t. in 2002 or 2003 JJ had something like 8 qbs on the roster and half of them transferred out without even playing a down of football for us, yet he gets a free pass on that but mack is a bad coach because of it. you guys are crazy.
The Former Coach was fond of saying that arm strength is secondary to accuracy as an attribute for success in his offense.
That said, with a six-pack full of candidates, MHO is that at some point you still need to select a candidate who can, in the words of Randy Moss, “chunk it out there.” I recall that in the Hawaii vs Mainland all-star game coming outta HS, QB Nielsen sorta got exposed in that area….
The RnS works much better if you are able to spread things vertically…for awhile the issue was the WR’s weren’t able to do that effectively; that doesn’t seem to be the case with this group but Rolo can’t be handicapped with a QB who can’t get the ball out there.
a-house, what would you have done if you were karl benson? no one wants to come to the WAC. we have to beg teams like North Texas to come over. and like it or not, a big reason they don’t want to join is because they don’t want to have to travel to hawaii on a regular basis. i laugh at people in hawaii who point the finger at karl benson when we are just as much to blame (if not more) than he is.
hawaii, nevada, fresno, sjsu – all four of these teams would leave if invited by another conference without even flinching. that’s not karl benson’s fault either.
Congrats to Leonard Peters…don’t really know much about rugby or the int’l. hierarchy of where the top U.S. team fits in but being in the top team your country has must be a good thing!
Old school Dave is old school.
ASU had some really ugly unis back then….
A little trivia. Who was the last UH football player to play on that same U.S. Rugby team?
what’s wrong with the margins, to me, its too wide. About 11/2 inches to the left, and 5 inches on the right. Compact like the news print, tabloid size, small print.
stab in the dark
last rugby player?
colin scotts
Pride. Says:
June 21st, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Actually not the same team, but the US Rugby team, quite a few years ago.
nm what im i thinking
Blessing Bird
Hint, rugby player played for Hawaii in that ASU game in 1979.
Blessing Bird would have been a blessing for the US Rugby team, but no, not him.
kekoa’s family keeps expending, our in house Tsaiko is related to nearly everyone we hear about, the old days family planning wasn’t an issue or option. Either you go to sleep early or stay up late and build an addition for more Keikis
Pride, wasn’t David Toloumu a great Rugby player after graduating from UH? If any of you sports fans didn’t see the movie Invictus, I’d suggest you rent the DVD. My wife, who doesn’t care for sports, was disappointed that I rented it, but was cheering on the couch at the end.
Bingo! papajoe got it. After stints with the Falcons and Eagles, toloumu played with the Harlequins locally, then got pulled up to the top US Rugby team.
I like the name of my guess better 😆
If I recall, the All Black rugby team played here and I think they lost to a local team. I’m probably wrong about them losing, but I know they played here. Does anybody know if it was around the era that the Invictus movie was? After Nelson Mandela’s release from prison.
I like the name of your guess too. I still remember his high school picture.
roysan16, Colin Scott played rugby while in Australia, before his stint with UH.
Mike has his own column today-biking. I guess he is not assigned to the city desk at the SA
I saw a high school player from Kahuku playing soccer a few days ago. he was soooo fast. after his game i went up to him and asked him if he played football for Kahuku. His reply “nah, I play rugby.” that’s good for all the other high school football teams.
Blessing Bird was huge.
Aaron:
Thanks for your input, but what I would have done does not matter much as what has Karl Benson done or did not do.
If living out in the Pacific Ocean is the problem, then I cannot refute that point that Hawaii is as much fault as Benson.
I would be interested in what you meant by “we are just as much to blame (if not more ) than he is.” How so? I will agree that UH Presidents, Chancellors, and Athletic Directors share the blame for not pushing an agenda with Benson.
I am not a “shaker” by any means, I am at the bootom of the totem pole, but I support UH athletics as best I can with my limited resources.
Al,
Re: The two inch rule, remember the official height measurements from several months ago when the Pro Scouts visited? Wouldn’t most of our players would be on the sidelines, if that were the case?
Aaron,
Re: post at 1:34.
Nobody’s bashing Coach Mack, just asking why our QB recruits aren’t all getting reps.
And nobody gave JJ a free pass for leaving us with no depth at Quarterback.
I hold him accountable, two seasons ago, having to go recruit JC quarterbacks. How can that happen in a Run and Shoot offense?
Oklahoma’s football coach says OU in Pac-10 would have been a win-win
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2010/06/oklahomas-bob-stoops-says-move-to-pac-10-would-have-been-win-win-in-my-eyes/1
I hope Corey Nielsen doesn’t get discouraged or disheartened by this development. He always struck me as a kid with great attitude & moxie.
Montana State lost their 10,000 seat arena to a tornado
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/storms/tornadoes/2010-06-20-montana-tornado_N.htm
A house or al,
what’s the scoops on the bball recruiting?
Old School Dave,
You may remember this. I don’t know if it was that same 13-3 game or another game w/ BYU,
but I remember a goal line play (in the South end-zone) in which the UH QB was all the way inside the end-zone except for the ankles & feet. The BYU players dragged him back after the play while the refs swallowed their whistles, did not signal the touchdown, then placed the ball at the half-yard line (mind you, his knee at no time touched the ground. BYU got the benefit of so many calls. It’s still my theory that the refs of that era “protected” their marquis team either consciously or unconsciously.
As for those that still doubt UH can beat Boise State, I beg to differ. UH If I’m not mistaken, didn’t UH beat then twice? They also had a 3rd win STOLEN by a gutless & soulless ref at Aloha Stadium when he did not call Omega Hogan being tackled from behind as he was about to bring down the punt-returner. That play should’ve given BSU the ball inside the 10 &they would’ve lost that game by 4. Instead, they were “given” an 86 yard TD run and a 3 point win that they know they lost. Again the refs protected their marquis team. Although it’s a tall order beating a veteran Boise team on their own turf(?) I believe (like DPK) that it’ll be sweet to make a statement!
Interesting article on strength coaches, especially the reference to “4th quarter where it really shines”.
Something UH was lacking in the last couple of years and hope to see major changes this coming season.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=5310210
yep.. Hawaii beat them the year before they became part of the WAC and in 2007. If our Warriors can score consistently, they can beat Boise. Much will be riding on how well our offense clicks and how much more effective their red zone performance will be.
Good Day from Portland! I found that remarkably interesting. Thanks for the update. I will be back to search for more info when I can.
Hey, interesting stuff, but WordPress breaks it up on my screen. Maybe it’s the theme you have on the site. Have you tried Drupal?
condolences to the family of William Richardson’s who passed today. he was a fine representative of the state and of the hawaiiant people.
madeinhawaii – In case you didn’t see this last night:
Whoops! Wrong PBS documentary series. The film was on POV – film-making shorthand for Point Of View. It should answer your questions about baseball in Japan. Anyone want to accompany Coach Trap to Japan for a recruiting trip in August – wonder if he knows about this and is planning to go?
Kokoyakyu: High School Baseball
PBS Broadcast: July 4, 2006
Synopsis
In Japan, baseball is not a pastime — it’s a national obsession. And for many of the country’s youth, the sport has become a rite of passage, epitomized by the national high school baseball tournament known simply as “Koshien.” Four thousand teams enter, but only 49 are chosen to compete in the championship that grips the nation for two weeks every August.
http://www.pbs.org/pov/kokoyakyu
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Looking at the Ameircan Rugby site, I notice that Peters is at the wing position. I incorrectly thought he was at fly half, which is like the QB on a rugby team. Wing makes more sense though, because it is where the speed on a rugby team is found. I hope he ends up on TV sometime.
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karl bensonerr…aaron –please accept my apologies for not fulfilling my duties and responsibilities as the WAC Commish. Oh, i forgot, i’m just a ‘FAN’.
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that should read “American” above.
well i am still gonna have to have lunch tomorrow.
Capitol -ist/WassupDoc,
While I’m well aware of Japan’s passion for baseball and gofl, I’m not aware of the development of their College leagues or conferences. I know a few colleges and highschools were playing American football when I left in ’94… but, I believe these were more like intramural teams than intercollegiate league/conference type play. Women’s basketball was very popular as well, among the high school women. Of course Volleyball is also big there.
It’s times like this you only can hope that Stephen & Leila and former staff of most popular news paper T.V show in the U.S.A Honolulu Advertiser were still on the Air with their Live Stream Videos Warriors Beat Show. Unable to the to attend the workouts session they used to show it live an also interview Coach/Player and alot of former University athletes which would have been nice if they could have interview Leonard Peter today. Perhaps That is one of the reason why Honolulu Advertiser was so popular online paper on the islands. Hope that Star Advertiser will continue to support the sports fans of University Of Hawaii with the Live Stream Video Warriors Beat Show.
The other problem I see is that the Highschools in Japan don’t label their classes as we do.. No Algebra 1 an 2 and Trig.. it’s Math 1, 2, 3, 4. Same with Science 1, 2, 3, 4. .. Both encompass Math through Calculus and Science through the basic college Chemistry, Biology and Physics…. but will UH accept this? Then there is the TOEFL and TOEIC tests. Lots of hurdles to circumvent. But it would be well worth it to get a few Japanese and Chinese players on some of our UH teams.
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The school year is rapidly coming to an end. Whoo-hoo!
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You can alternate the theme but I don’t know what you mean.
Wafan: How long is your school year? Has to be way longer than 180 instructional days. Even before Furlough Fridays here, the schools were shut down for 13 weeks a year – one week in the fall, three weeks at Christmas, two weeks at spring break, and seven weeks in the summer. There have been some adjustments in order to lengthen the summer break starting this year.
How many of you remember when school started the day after Labor Day and ended the day before King kamehameha’s birthday?
ANYONE: How many Japanese nationals are currently playing professional baseball for one of the the American or National League teams at any level? I suspect that the number is somewhere around 15 players. Were they drafted in Japan or from a college here in the US?
I know that English is required in academically-oriented high schools plus most college=bound youth have been studying English since elementary school The easiest way to get the answers to your questions concerning undergraduate applicant requirements from Japan and other First World countries would be to call up the Adminissions Office and talk to someone about this.
Off to the gym.
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Capitol -ist/WassupDoc,
I would think that their English would not pass the minimum TOEFL requirements 95% of the time. At least that’s how it was when I was in Japan between 1986-94. And that’s how it is with my son who’s now been here for 3.5 years! GRRRRR! If I kick hiim do you think that might improve his IQ? or at least his English comprehension and language skills?
What you missed at unsupervised practice today:
David Graves doing standing back-flips, (or was that forward?)
Little Mana eating peanut-butter & jelly crackers.
Bubba Luna from Temecula, CA.
Who was that guy coming out to practice without his shorts on??? 😯
Sorry to hear about William Richardson’s passing. Condolences to his ‘ohana.
Whoa, this small text size is really hard for us old guys like me.
Regarding recruiting Japanese nationals, as madeinhawaii said, the biggest hurdle would be English proficiency and passing the TOEFL Exam. Sadly, although Japanese study English for 6 years from Jr High through Sr High, most cannot speak or communicate enough to make it academically in a U.S. university.
Maybe UH could pick the brain of current Kamehameha Head Football Coach David Stant, who spent almost 10 years coaching semi-pro/company league football in Japan.
Regarding BYU games during the Tomey years, those were some entertaining, but frustrating times. So many calls went against UH in those games. I still can see Jim McMahon making that left footed punt out of the end zone back in the 1980 game.
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Oh wow.. my font didn’t get bigger.. Why is that?
where did I put that link to Jason’s blogger’s html?
re: recruiting Asian players – I agree that the Japanese & Mainland Chinese students would have a hard time passing their TOEFLs. Perhaps a redshirt/greyshirt year spent in ESL classes? Is that allowed?
BTW, did anyone read the story about the Eritrean (sp?) basketball player in yesterday’s paper? Wonder how good he really is.
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Maybe we gotta go deeper and arrange exchange students at the early High School levels (9th grade?) with good academic standings who are interested in American Sports? They come to a public school here… homestay… try out for the team… then go back to finish up school.. That one year here will help them pass the TOEFL.
al:
maybe coaching staff “indicated” that the last scholarship would be used or held for Andre provided he gets a release from Nebraska – if so, hope there is a “drop-dead” clause or expiration date for acceptance.
then, coaches must make a fast decision, after incquiring with Johnson his desires for playing college ball; ie, school.
at least we know that Andre wants to transfer to Hawaii, but Nebraska coach is playing hardball.
seems like we’re getting a lot of ‘tweeners for mbb-6’4 to 6’8. guys who can play multiple positions from tall point to small power forward at the #4 spot. Amis and Joachim seem like the only big man, and I’ve seem Amis play, Amis is not a physical guy in the paint to clear space and control the rebound. He can team with another big man to work in tandem but if he is the big man in a set, I don’t see UH controlling the offensive board. I know Kurtz is on the team, but I’m not counting him to keep up with the athleticism of the new recruits and the pace they will hopefully be playing.
I hope UH comes out running and gunning, and hopefully the shots fall, anticipating a great basketball season with a mid size team.
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How do you all know Andre is interested in coming here? Did u guys find a site telling u this?
Ralph, I like those 6’7″, 6’8″ guys on the low block. I’ll take speed, athleticism over height/size any day.
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Kendall I hope they are all leapers, we need rebounds, and strength to keep their bigs from pushing their way to the basket.
Ralph, in Wallace’s and Larry Little’s day, they figured out that to win in the WAC you needed big bodies. tall and thick guys under the basket. maybe we can win with finesse and speed. i hope so anyway. seems like coach Gib recruited a lot of athletes. might be different for a change. hopefully, a positive change.
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Good morning to everyone!
That still holds true to some this day
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What everyone fails to see is that College Football is a COLLEGE SPORT, not professional. There will not be a push to add international teams to the mix. The so-called asian market is there for professional sports like the NFL, MLB, and NBA, but I’m not sure how large the market is for College Athletics which are usually regional in nature anyway. With the exception of the larger bowl games, I’m not sure there really is a true market out there, and if there is, our proximity to Asia by sea doesn’t necessarily translate to any connection through the airwaves. And creating a Conference consisting of teams from other countries probably wouldn’t happen for the simple fact that schools overseas have a different criteria than American schools when it comes to higher education.
W-Doc . . .
State mandated 180 days plus a few additional days for a total of 183. We begin, sadly, the Tuesday after Labor Day. That is why we get out so late in June.
Hawai’i, I think, just mandated a 180 day school year bringing it in line with the rest of the nation.
We really need either a longer school day or a longer school year. Both would be a good thing. Too many kids have neither the basic communicative, mathematical, work, nor social skills to be successful at even the basic work and job sites.
And, here is something that has always bothered me. Never had an English or foreign language teacher attempt to explain it, too — most look at me as if I it were the dumbest statement in the world. So, here it is. Kids take formal English (assumed to be their Mother-Tongue) for 11-12 years. And, we expect them to be fluent (conversational) in a foreign language (usually French, German, Japanese or Spanish) in two years. Why?
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Cliff, I thank you for your kind words but I do not deserve them. I’m just a guy trying to do his best as a father, husband, and worker.
North Texas has hired a consultant to study realignment. They apparently turned down the WAC in 2004, so it is not guaranteed that they would join the WAC even if invited.
It is disturbing to read that one of the WAC’s stronger schools might have to worry about dropping out of D-1! I know that NMSU and other WAC schools are worried about having to drop out of D-IA, but if *Fresno State* has to worry about this then just about every WAC school is in trouble.
Note that just yesterday the state of California announced another fee hike for Cal State schools…and that closed just half of the budget hole they needed to close.
Great Morning All!
Condolences to the Richardson Ohana.
Hoping that Ashley Lelie is able to find success as he takes his next step in life.
Have a terrific day erryboddy!
HiHo…
Good Morning Tsai-kos!
Our condolences to the Richardson family.
We had the pleasure of sitting next to him at UH men’s basketball games for many years. He was such a wonderful person to talk with and will be missed.
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Grossman comfortable with Redskins offense.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/rex-grossman/grossman-already-comfortable-w.html?wpisrc=nl_sports
that can’t be good for Colt
To Fresno supporters,
Are you guys really thinking about dropping out from D-1?
Or is it an author of the Fresno Bee’s opinion?
I read the article.
It seems like the your Board of Directors approved a 18 million dollar budget.
It seems like last year the athletic department was in the hole for 300K.
And you folks have an endowment fund of 10 million to dip into.
It seems like revenue coming in doesn’t keep up with the rising cost of athletic scholarships.
No where from the article do I read a quote from Fresno State officials saying that they are thinking about dropping from D-1.
I read instead that the school’s athletic program has to do a lot of belt tightening.
I read where the school is looking at how the realignments might have an affect on the WAC.
But until the day I hear officially from the President of Fresno State that the school is dropping out then I think just best to ignore the opinions of the Fresno Bee writer and a poster writing here. No?
Ralph ~ Altho I have reportedly been related to everyone in the State of Hawaii, I must acknowledge that you are not my cousin.
The Apuna brothers, Wayne, Ben, and Gary, were all gifted athletes. Ben is the only one that played in the NFL. He was an OLB for the NY Giants 1980 – 1982.
Gary trained at Ft. Bragg with us to become a member of a Green Beret *A* Team. Ben came to stay with me during the off season. Diana taught him how to sing a ‘real’ Hawaiian song so that the Veterans on the team would stop making him sing “Tiny Bubbles!”Bwahahaha!
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