Seeking a good mid-year grade

While the Warriors are in full recruiting mode, a special emphasis is on junior-college transfers.

Mid-year transfers — junior college players — may signing letters of intent beginning on Dec. 18. The Warriors hope to sign up to five who could enroll for the 2014 spring semester. There is enough cap room. About 14 scholarships come off the books at the end of this semester.

The Warriors already are off to a strong start. They have commitments from the state’s top offensive player (Punahou’s Larry “Tui” Tuileta) and one of the top linemen (Tavita “Tui” Eli). Also, rush end/linebacker Jeremy Castro (UCLA transfer), defensive tackle Kory Rasmussen (Colorado) and slotback Quinton Pedroza (Utah) are considered part of the 2014 recruiting class.


  1. 1 December 5, 2013 7:51 am


  2. Marleysdad December 5, 2013 8:01 am

    Good morning.

    Just a reminder.

    Relax, have some fun. Don’t take life so serious, nobody makes it out alive.

    Tell someone you love that you love them.

  3. Kudis December 5, 2013 8:14 am

    Good morning. Tree’s company. Let’s lockem down, get this wagon rolling and get some recruits!


  4. Traitmanz December 5, 2013 8:16 am

    Did Ben Jay have his meeting with Chow?

  5. Traitmanz December 5, 2013 8:17 am

    Still questioning why TK is still on staff

  6. Traitmanz December 5, 2013 8:21 am

    Is Tigi Hill one of the five?

  7. ponojr December 5, 2013 8:31 am

    Would Tigi Hill be an incoming Junior?

  8. Naks8 December 5, 2013 8:54 am

    Let’s load up. We need to secure some of the top guys. I thought manly Williams was a commit

  9. (Jesse)James December 5, 2013 9:06 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!!

  10. kifi December 5, 2013 9:06 am

    Hawaii Defensive End

    * 1 HS commit so far

    Jamie Tago 14/15/16/17
    Ualesi Sale 14/15/16/17
    Rahsaan Falemalu 14/15/16/17

    David Manoa 14/15/16/17
    Jeremy Castro 14/15/16/17

    Beau Yap 14
    Niko Uti 14

    (May need at least two JC transfers to insert into that sophmore or junior class.)

  11. jeezy33 December 5, 2013 9:09 am

    10. I think we have the 2 JC guys covered..

  12. Traitmanz December 5, 2013 9:16 am

    #7 : yes. He burned his redshirt at mesa jc to hopefully have 3 years but it didn’t work out

  13. LizKauai (mbp) December 5, 2013 9:21 am


    Happy, Heavenly Birthday, Ukuleleboi.

  14. 808bowler December 5, 2013 9:24 am

    I believe manly Williams is still a commit. Check espn cfb recruiting.

  15. kifi December 5, 2013 9:25 am

    #11 – yes Jeezy, so I heard. Thanks for keeping it on the down low. Heard poachers are swimming the shores of our islands.

  16. NorthShoreFan December 5, 2013 9:27 am

    Guud Morning Tsaikos….bootiful day…

    Happy Birthday Ukuleleboi…and aloha to Liz..

    Exciting times now waiting on the future Warriors…IMUA WARRIORS!

  17. kifi December 5, 2013 9:28 am

    Hawaii Linebackers

    * one HS commit

    Drake Miller 14/15/16/17

    Julian Gener 14/15
    Lance Williams 14/15
    Benetton Fonua 14/15
    Jerrol Garcia-Williams 14/15

    T.J. Taimatuia 14
    Deon Leatimua 14
    Tevita Lataimua 14

    (Maybe one or two JC transfers needed to fill out that sophmore class. If not, then we need freshman that are ready to contribute right away.)

  18. tom mui December 5, 2013 9:32 am


    Glad to hear about our recruiting efforts.

    Went to a book-signing last night and met a couple of people who read TWB but are just lurkers. Would be interesting to know how many people lurk and how many people are (relatively) participants.

  19. kifi December 5, 2013 9:36 am

    Disappointed that Kapolei’s Kalani Vakameilalo has committed to Oregon State. He’s going to be a real good ball player. Would have loved watching him line up next to Tuimaseali’i.

  20. Former UH Athlete December 5, 2013 9:37 am

    Is it August 30, 2014 yet?

  21. Former UH Athlete December 5, 2013 9:44 am

    19… There’s always a chance UW, Wazzu, Oregon, and Oregon St bound local players will come back home because of the weather/culture of those places. Gotta deal with a lot of grayness and rain at UW, UO, and OSU; bitter winters at Wazzu. It definitely takes some getting used to.

    Wonder if Chow is attempting steal a few Washington commits now that Sark is is USC bound. I would think some would follow Sark to USC, but there will be some that won’t be cool with the change. I’m sure they are all getting calls from other teams also. Recruiting guys already enrolled is a no-no, but like many major coaching changes, there’s bound to be a few transfers leaving UW in the coming weeks.

  22. ALLAN December 5, 2013 10:12 am


  23. SteveM December 5, 2013 10:19 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Happy Birthday g-nalo !!!

  24. primo123 December 5, 2013 10:46 am

    MAYBE we can get some USC recruits that dont want to play for SARK?

    maybe maybe!!!!

  25. primo123 December 5, 2013 10:47 am

    I WONDER if Chow ever got ahold of ORGERON???


  26. 808WarriorFan December 5, 2013 10:48 am


  27. primo123 December 5, 2013 10:57 am

    Did Chow have his meeting with Kaumeyer?

  28. primo123 December 5, 2013 10:58 am

    Unless…………..he’s going to keep him???????????????

  29. ponojr December 5, 2013 11:07 am

    When was the last time UH had a good defense and why was it so good at the time?

  30. cocobean December 5, 2013 11:10 am

    RE: Sheraton HI Bowl.

    I’ve always bought at least two tickets to the game but only attended if UH was playing. This year I am so apathetic that I’m going to break my streak and not purchase any tickets.

    In the past I thought it was important to support the Bowl because it was specifically created to insure UH would have somewhere to play any time they are bowl eligible. This year I’d rather make a small donation to the Women’s basketball team.

    I guess when you reach a certain age, there’s an attraction to attending a sporting event where you don’t have to fight traffic, easily find convienient parking, pay a low admission for lower bowl seats and watch a competitive Home team.

  31. PONO December 5, 2013 11:19 am

    Just curious but have any Kapolei players that went to D1 schools panned out into all conference performers?

  32. markazulu December 5, 2013 11:21 am

    @29 I would say the 2010 team had a pretty stellar defense despite that Tulsa game they for the most part played pretty well especially that game against Colin Kapernicks Nevada wolfpack that was ranked high. Lead the nation in takeaways i believe to. Mana Silva, Richard Torres, Corey Paredes, John hardy Tuliau all were phenomenal

  33. 808WarriorFan December 5, 2013 11:26 am

    #28…That’s what I’m afraid of. We’re in the middle of recruiting and what do you tell your Defensive recruits about who your DC is going to be. As time passes it’s more of an indication Chow will keep him. If so I will not be a season ticket holder next year…

  34. tom mui December 5, 2013 11:51 am

    Gee, all this time I thought a Warrior Fan would be one to stick with his/her team through the good times and the bad.

    I thought wrong: a Warrior Fan would be one that would cheer his team on if the record was 12-0 or 13-0 and was going to a bowl.

    Any loss would be a disaster and no more tickets to buy and no more donations to UH (assuming there was any to begin with).

    Just saying.

  35. primo123 December 5, 2013 11:51 am

    as more time passes and no changes in the staff occurs… just tells me…the coaches are thinking that the problems arent in preparation, playcalling, schemes, halftime adjustments,…..its more a lack of personnel that those other things.

  36. Kapahulu December 5, 2013 11:51 am

    Emily Hartong is in a tight race for the Senior Class Award. Every vote counts. Vote here. Once every day. Right now she is tied for first place at 40.7% of the votes.

  37. Old School Dave December 5, 2013 11:58 am

    Off topic, but I applaud Marcus Mariotta’s decision to return for his junior season at UO. I didn’t really follow him that closely when he was at St Louis, but I’m very impressed with the young man’s humility and the way he is always quick to give credit to his teammates first and foremost. I think players like Mariotta also really enjoy playing college football and college life in general.

    Speaking of Kapolei players, what ever happened to that big offensive lineman, Stan Hasiak who started at UCLA, but was kicked off the team due to some anger issues? I thought he went to a JC, but never heard about him after that?

  38. Marleysdad December 5, 2013 12:00 pm

    Base your decision on season tickets not on whether or not any coach is there or not, rather, decide if you are a Warrior fan or not.

    These decisions should not be made solely on the win/loss record.

    Do you tailgate? Do you enjoy that? Do you see your TG partners year round? Only at home games?

    There have been some exciting games for a 1-11 team, although we came out on the wrong end, they were fun to the end.

    Is money is the problem? Season tickets can be had for as cheap as $75. That’s $12 & change for each game.

    No money for the concession? Eat before you go in. I don’t buy any food inside, a few drinks, but no food.

    If you just don’t want to support Warrior football, well,stop complaining. If you’re not a paying customer/vested supporter, you have no right to whine.

  39. 808WarriorFan December 5, 2013 12:05 pm

    #38…I give / support Na Koa…do you ?????

  40. kifi December 5, 2013 12:08 pm

    The true Warrior fans are the 50,000 who say that they have attended every home game, even during the ’98 season.

  41. kifi December 5, 2013 12:10 pm

    I wonder how many Rainbow Warrior football games the blog host has been to? Has he missed any games in the last twenty-five years?

  42. Old School Dave December 5, 2013 12:16 pm

    Geez, some school now have to pay buyouts for assistant coaches:

  43. Marleysdad December 5, 2013 12:23 pm

    39, yessir.

  44. Down with... December 5, 2013 12:51 pm

    True Warrior Fans find the silver lining in a 1-11 season….a true fan (just like a true friend) is there when the sh*t hits the fan and NOT ONLY during the good times….and lastly, just cause you donate money doesn’t make you more righteous in anyway more than the person who doesn’t donate….unless of course it’s in the millions which I know none of you are doing….so shhhhhh be nice, appreciate/respect one another and smokeabowl….aloha

  45. gambit808 December 5, 2013 12:52 pm

    how can you NOT get season tickets at $75? I wish I was back home. I’d be going to each home game regardless.

  46. tom mui December 5, 2013 12:55 pm

    #39 – as you are giving up your season’s tickets, I hope you will consider donating that sum of money to Na Koa in addition to whatever you donate now. That would show true support for the program.

  47. Kukui High School December 5, 2013 1:05 pm

    #38 Marleysdad…well said!

  48. Fan December 5, 2013 1:05 pm

    As a long time season ticket holder I can relate to those who choose to not renew. There were a number of times this season when it felt like enough was enough. But I support warrior football and I look forward to next year. Rightly or wrongly I think we have a chance to be a very good team next year (I think this every year). It is always interesting to see the underclass men develop and see who steps into leading roles. And hey it is our team. So not renewing is not on my mind. But if you really don’t enjoy college football or truly are fed up with the team/coaches/administration then of course don’t renew. But know that you are abandoning ship when the ship can least afford to be abandoned. Don’t expect your gesture to be anything other than damaging to the program. It will be. The idea that low season ticket sales will force your will upon the program to effect changes you feel are necessary is probably not going to happen. I’m sure Ben Jay can see more than we can see and has difficult decisions to make. It’s pretty obvious when we have a 1-11 team that we have a problem. More difficult is to decide the way forward within the limitations imposed. If we were USC coach Chow would now be gone. We are not USC and are not going to be USC anytime soon. So I say support the team as it is and enjoy having a team. Coach Chow is a smart man. I hope he can keep learning and make the right moves. If not he’ll have to be gone after next year regardless. I hope he succeeds.

  49. Bowwar December 5, 2013 1:06 pm

    It’s going to be really hard to support a coaching regime after only 4 wins in two seasons without any significant changes to improve the course of the program. We’ve been season ticket owners since 78 and it was BAD during the Von Appen years, but this regime has also been very tough to stomach…You would think we’d learn from our mistakes over the years, but the problems persist. We had “hope” and “success” with JJ, but that was bitterly dashed with his abrupt departure.

    No guarantees…with no changes, it might be hard to convince the wifey to get season tickets again…

    Maybe, we’ll opt to buy basketball season tickets, where the program looks a bit more promising and upbeat…

  50. primo123 December 5, 2013 1:15 pm

    I’ll be at the home games. Even during the Von Appen days. One of the good things about those days was the parking was terrific!… after the game, leaving was a breeze, cuz everyone left at halftime, there was no traffic going out!

  51. primo123 December 5, 2013 1:21 pm

    football needs a boost in its perception.

    a change in the staff, ie. defense. would help to change the perception and give it some degree of hope.

    the baseball team did it.

    someone’s going to have to fall on the sword for the team.

  52. (Jesse)James December 5, 2013 1:25 pm

    RIP Nelson Mandela..

  53. turfwar December 5, 2013 1:26 pm

    Just heard on the Josh Pacheco show that Boise State coach Peterson is interviewing for the UDUB job. Hmmm…

  54. ai-eee-soos December 5, 2013 1:44 pm

    Washington: According to ESPN’s Brett McMurphy, Washington will interview Alabama offensive coordinator / quarterbacks coach Doug Nussmeier on Thursday and Boise State head coach Chris Petersen on Friday.

    Boise State: President Bob Kustra has released a statement. From the Idaho Statesman: “We are fully committed to Coach Petersen remaining at Boise State and, as always, intend to do everything in our power to support him as Boise State’s football coach.”


    me: Let’s see how much Boise State can come up with.

  55. John Fitzgerald Byers December 5, 2013 1:50 pm

    The WRONG guy “fell” for the baseball team’s shortfalls last season.

  56. primo123 December 5, 2013 1:57 pm

    #55…..yeah!…WTF was up with that??

  57. primo123 December 5, 2013 1:58 pm

    Since WHEN? does your HITTING suck….and you let your PITCHING coach go??


  58. blunite December 5, 2013 2:13 pm

    Friendship means a lot to Chow, so TK will be retained despite performance. He is getting an education in college defenses and Chow hopes, given time he will learn and get better. With the minimal progress over the last 2 years, Chow is relying on better talent to overcome any deficiencies in coaching.

  59. Warrior Dave December 5, 2013 2:21 pm

    I think Peterson is running out of chances to work at a big name school. He either jumps now or will be a lifer at BSU. I’m sure that would make them happy. They had a down year this year. Either other MWC schools are catching up or their successful formula needs tweaking.

  60. Former UH Athlete December 5, 2013 2:21 pm

    54… Peterson isn’t going anywhere. He gets mentioned for every major job opening. He’s not interested in taking and a major challenge. A couple million/year at Boise and no stress is a nice gig, even if he’s peaked out on their potential.

    The other factor of why Peterson won’t move is the BCS system is changing to a playoff. Should BSU run the table again, they have enough name power and reputation to make the playoff. I personally don’t think Boise has a QB that can take them there, but Boise now has the chance to win a national championship.

    Washington paid Sark about the same as BSU pays Peterson… Just over $2M. UW has the money to offer more, but more importantly than money, any school wanting Peterson must sell the move to his family.

  61. boolakanaka December 5, 2013 2:22 pm

    29…I can’t answer when was the most recent solid warrior defense. But, from my time, the 84 squad was pretty darn solid.

    Two things stand out, attendance was in the mid 40s for all home games, and total points allowed for the season was 181 or about 16 ppg. Obviously, many differences with the game today, but still, UH for the most part has always had a reputation as defensive squad. 7-8 players either played in either NFL or CFL.

    Date School Result Score Attendance
    09/08 Cal State Fullerton L 13-21 45,066
    09/15 at Colorado State* L 3-10 25,754
    09/22 Brigham Young* L 13-18 50,000
    09/29 UNLV W 16-12 41,904
    10/06 Fresno State W 27-15 41,999
    10/13 at UTEP* W 24-20 21,121
    10/20 Utah* W 20-17 43,804
    10/27 San Diego State* W 16-10 44,017
    11/03 Wyoming* (HC) W 31-28 48,804
    11/24 New Mexico* W 48-13 46,290
    12/01 Iowa L 6-17 50,000

    PASSING 6 6
    OTHER 1 0
    PASSING 93 87
    PENALTY 11 14
    TOTAL 206 210
    YARDS GAINED 2158 2103
    YARDS LOST 358 384
    NET YARDS 1800 1719
    YDS PER CARRY 3.7 3.8
    YDS PER GAME 163.6 156.3
    PASSING (CMP-ATT-INT) 148-301-5 156-301-17
    COMPLETION PCT 49.2 51.8
    NET YARDS 2197 2028
    YDS PER ATTEMPT 7.30 6.74
    YDS PER COMPLETION 14.84 13.00
    YDS PER GAME 199.7 184.4
    RATING 113.7 101.0
    TOTAL OFFENSE 3997 3747
    PLAYS 783 757
    YDS PER PLAY 5.10 4.95
    YDS PER GAME 363.4 340.6
    POINTS SCORED 217 181
    POINTS PER GAME 19.7 16.5
    PUNTS RETURNED/YDS/AVG 41/292/7.1 26/150/5.8
    KICKS RETURNED/YDS/AVG 29/514/17.7 38/686/18.1
    PUNTS/YDS/AVG 55/2216/40.3 58/2358/40.7
    PENALTIES/YDS/YDS PER GAME 71/615/55.9 88/665/60.5
    FUMBLES/LOST 19/10 25/11
    THIRD DOWNS/CONV/PCT 157/59/37.6 141/48/34.

  62. Former UH Athlete December 5, 2013 2:26 pm

    59… Boise doesn’t have a good QB and Peterson hasn’t been able to recruit elite WRs after Pettis and Young finished up. I really like their RB tandem Ajayi and Baltazar kid. Both are really good.

  63. Former UH Athlete December 5, 2013 2:39 pm

    61… Wonder what the attendance #’s look like in the years before and after the PPV deal was implemented.

    Speaking of which, when does the PPV contract finish?

    Would love to see UH find a way to get on other networks available on the mainland. There’s got to be a better deal to make than with Oceanic…Which nobody gets to see on the mainland. Increased exposure means more revenue for UH. Then you don’t have to gouge your attendance for PPV buys. Blackouts would still be in effect, but at least it forces people to go to the stadium vs PPV at home if they want to watch live.

    It can be done, just need university leaders that know what the hell they are doing. Plus the MWC hopefully can land a conference wide deal so UH can ditch the current setup. The PPV deal was formed in part because the WAC was pathetic under Carl Benson. That guy couldn’t negotiate his way out of valet parking.

  64. Former UH Athlete December 5, 2013 2:51 pm

    61… Also keep in mind the rule changes and evolution of spread and uptempo offenses have really increased scoring and stats.

    Defenses have it much tougher now than 20 years ago. Which is why so many old timer defensive coaches have really had problems with the modern offenses… McMackin, Monte Kiffin, Jerry Glanville come to mind. Even the great Dick Lebeau is showing cracks in his Steelers D.

  65. ponojr December 5, 2013 2:52 pm

    #61 – We had 9 homes games back in 84? Looks like teams didn’t mind making the trip over the Pacific back then.

  66. wafan December 5, 2013 2:56 pm

    FUHA . . .

    That is the problem, “. . . need university leaders that know what the hell they are doing.”

    If you do not know it is broken how can you fix it? And, if you do know it is broken but do not know how to fix it, how can you fix it?

    I would love to have the PR position at UH! Do absolutely nothing or the same old thing that does not work and get paid to do/not do it.


  67. boolakanaka December 5, 2013 2:56 pm

    FUHA it is a tad perplexing. If one were to look at the relative population from 1980 to present, Hawai’i has had about a 20% population growth. So, it goes without saying that PPV contract has had an effect on stadium attendance. That said, from previously living in the NW, both OU, OSU, UW pretty much sellout their home games. OU and OSU are in college towns, but pull in the greater PDX population, despite having the games locally televised.

    So, we need to drill down on some of the existing data…..questions-questions??

  68. wafan December 5, 2013 2:58 pm

    Good afternoon, Tsai-kos!

  69. Bugaz December 5, 2013 3:04 pm

    Seems as though there were big improvements in oline play. Hopefully Naeole can scout great talent and reel them in.

  70. Inyoface December 5, 2013 3:06 pm

    I wonder if a coach like Mac would work for free as a DC strictly for the love of the program and the state.

  71. Buffoman December 5, 2013 3:33 pm

    I thought that the ability to run the ball improved. I also thought that the screens had more down field blocking. Nice to see.improvements could be seen on the o-line.

    I believe we willnbe better next year.

  72. Whats up December 5, 2013 3:34 pm


    Good Luck with that thought.

  73. NotNasti December 5, 2013 3:47 pm

    70. Inyoface: Mac work for free? After being “ushered” into retirement? It was “retire” or be fired. I don’t think he would work here for pay, let alone pro bono.

  74. Stephen Tsai December 5, 2013 3:51 pm

    Manly Williams is a commit.

  75. wasabi December 5, 2013 3:51 pm

    71. So will everyone else. Therein lies the problem….

  76. Manoa2 December 5, 2013 3:51 pm

    I personally cannot see not renewing season tickets because you do not support the coach. But with people’s budgets limited, the team’s performance is not appealing enough to get people to spend the money and that is how some of the people I go to the games with feel. I know families who had four season tickets now cutting back to one, for example. There is just a big drop off in interest. More and more people with tickets stopped going and found other things to do or just went with getting PPV. Chow has his work cut out for him– he needs to field an exciting and winning team. Some of the perceptions of Chow are wrong, but it is the right perceptions that sell tickets.

  77. Stephen Tsai December 5, 2013 3:51 pm

    Mack has left the building.
    He’s in Vegas, or thereabouts.
    He hasn’t spoken to the media since he entered the Io Room.

  78. Whats up December 5, 2013 3:54 pm

    I just don’t have faith in Kaumeyer as Defensive Coordinator, even with all the returning players like Julian Gener, Tevita Latimua, Kennedy Tulimasealii, Beau Yap, Moses Samia, Dee Maggitt, Nequan Phillips, Marrell Jackson, Trayvon Henderson, Anthony Pierce, Jerrol Garcia Williams, Calen Friel, TJ Taimatua, Marcus Malepeai, Niko Uti and some others that got game experience on Defense.

    Plus, the incoming redshirt players like Jeremy Castro, Kory Rasmussin, Nick Childs, David Manoa, Jamie Tago, Ualesi Sale, Rahsaan Falemalu.

    Then add, the 2014 recruits like Manly Williams, Aaron Glover, Ka’au Gifford and company, thats alot of returning and incoming talent on the defensive side of the ball.

    And even with some good depth created the past 2 seasons on defense by playing almost everybody on the defensive roster. I still have a hard time believing Kaumeyer is the right man for the DC job.

  79. Stephen Tsai December 5, 2013 4:02 pm

    They always say you need to practice how you play.
    In practices, the defense kills it with blitzes and aggressiveness. Not so much in games. Not sure why.

  80. NotNasti December 5, 2013 4:04 pm

    80. ST: Opponents know our tendencies? Defensive play calling too predictable?

  81. ponojr December 5, 2013 4:05 pm

    ST #79 – is it because they’re going up against our O that they look so dominant?

  82. NotNasti December 5, 2013 4:07 pm

    Is it possible to be too aggressive? We are #2 in the TFL category, but probably near #120 in 3rd & long defense. We have a big play defense, either way, it’s a big play.

  83. kifi December 5, 2013 4:13 pm

    Hawaii Receivers

    * two HS commits so far.

    Ammon Barker 14/15/16/17

    Keith Kirkwood 14/15/16
    Marcus Kemp 14/15/16
    Kwamane Bowens 14/15/16

    Quentin Pedroza 14/15
    Vasquez Haynes 14/15
    Duke Bukoski 14/15

    Scot Harding 14
    Bubba Pueo Luna 14
    Donnie King Jr. 14
    Allen Sampson 14

    (Should probably focus on one or two more HS recruits. Don’t think we need any JC transfers at this time.)

  84. Buffoman December 5, 2013 4:20 pm

    I thought that we were pretty good at stopping the run off tackle. I thought that we were awful when teams went wide on us. We either did not have the speed or our defense did not stay with their assignments and left us vulnerable with no help.

    I don’t know about third downs. It was like fool around on first and second because even if we’re third and long (opponent speaking) we’ll simply make it or even score. It was difficult to watch third downs by the opponents.

    I am no coach or expert just an observer.

    But I look forward to watching our team next year.

  85. Inyoface December 5, 2013 4:22 pm

    We need a DB/Safety coach like Miano to help out.

  86. boolakanaka December 5, 2013 4:22 pm

    82—Counselor, tackles for losses, at times, can be a very misleading statistic. In some situations, it reflects, someone coming out of their designated assignment to make a play. If this occurs too often it exposes some liabilities in the greater scheme.

    I was watching a breakdown, of how Polumalu has lost a half-step, over the years. Through careful film splicing it exhibited how Troy, known for most of his career as a game-turner, came off his assignment, and placed other players in jeopardy, that resulted in very big gains for the offense.

  87. NotNasti December 5, 2013 4:31 pm

    It “seemed” like our opponents conversion rate on third down was better on 3rd and long than 3rd and short. THAT’s what was sooooo frustrating this season (among other things).

  88. Stephen Tsai December 5, 2013 4:35 pm

    Miano was once a co-defensive coordinator for UH.

  89. Stephen Tsai December 5, 2013 4:35 pm

    I like Miano, but Miano is polarizing. (See all-star voting among coaches.)

  90. Manoa2 December 5, 2013 4:38 pm

    86– correct. There is often no relationship between good defense and tackles for loss. Top 3 in tackles for loss– Clemson, Hawaii, and Tulane are not good defensive teams. Marshall and Fresno have a lot of tackles for loss– in the top ten, but have bad defenses. SMU has a bad defense, but they are ranked 22d which is ahead of Ohio State at 29th, Alabama at 90th, and LSU at 106th.

  91. NotNasti December 5, 2013 4:42 pm

    If Miano wasn’t Miano, he would have been on Chow’s staff (if you know what I mean).

  92. cocobean December 5, 2013 4:53 pm

    Knowing the kind of person Chow is I doubt he’ll replace TK unless he recieves an ultimatum from BJ or Apple to do so. I stilll believe that as a staff the coaching will be better next year. I think the old adage about work will apply to them — you learn more from your mistakes than anything else.

    My hope for next year is they learn how to win with the players they have. Good coaches/staffs find ways to win. They are able to field teams that are better than the sum of the individual player’s talents. I hope they are able to instill a team ethos of accountability in how you practice and how you play. Ireally felt at times players and coaches lacked accountability for their actions.

  93. boolakanaka December 5, 2013 4:56 pm

    91 Point taken counselor. One man’s confident verve, is another man’s–you get on my nerves (did you notice the nice little rhyme I made?).

  94. boolakanaka December 5, 2013 4:59 pm

    In as much as I can appreciate both loyalty and friendship, if it comes on the dime and expense of other folks—-well, if you don’t produce, at the end of the day, we are going to have a terse and difficult conversation.

  95. NotNasti December 5, 2013 5:01 pm

    Boola the cunning linguist.

  96. gobows December 5, 2013 5:09 pm

    chad konishi is a good coach.

    remember several years back he came over to the rwss to check out the new shortstop from kauai, he was impressed, and the rest is in the history books.

  97. boolakanaka December 5, 2013 5:09 pm

    A poet, and I know it, all the way down to my toes, they are longfellows.

  98. gobows December 5, 2013 5:21 pm

    baseball team needs to hit the gym, they are the smallest team in baseball. good size pitchers, diminutive players on the field. they need to take a look at vinny catricala. what really sucks is their inability to put down a sacrifice bunt.

  99. gobows December 5, 2013 5:23 pm

    a young mandela looks like flo rida.

  100. woo hoo December 5, 2013 5:24 pm

    woo hoo

  101. Former UH Athlete December 5, 2013 5:57 pm

    80,81,82… All probably correct.

    Can’t help but think UH was predictable on when they blitz. A good data person on opposing staffs probably tracked the % of times UH blitzed on certain situations (ie 3rd and long). Or at least, that’s what I’d have my offensive GA or video coordinator be looking at when scouting the other team.

    IF the other teams know you’re blitzing on 3rd and long most of the time, the other team can dial up a play to counter the blitz. Which seemed to happen a lot this year.

  102. hightide December 5, 2013 6:00 pm

    If Chow wants to bet his job on his choice for defensive coordinator than so be it.

    Only in Hawaii can a 1-11 coach can be tolerated and in some cases loved. Next year 14, if the team is not bowl bound, Chow should resign because by then enough will be enough.

  103. Old Diver December 5, 2013 6:20 pm


    Nonsense, Chow didn’t hire Aranda either.

  104. Old Diver December 5, 2013 6:21 pm


    Funny, but as it turns out UH hired polarizing.

  105. Moocher December 5, 2013 6:23 pm

    if you dont want to renew season tickets, if its for health reasons financial , etc, yeah i can see that.

    but when we are talking of a team made up of 20 year olds and a coach who has shown he can recruit and is building, and an offense that is far better and we will be even far better next year, not to mention this is the only game in town, seriously, why do so many people act like spoiled kids?

    “oh brah, if dey no get rid of chow i not going buy season tickets la dat” hey, plenty people want to keep chow in cos we know need at least 3 years, anyone who knows football knows that. go find a corner if you no like it but quit crying and don’t ruin it for the rest of us who can see the good, no great things that will come.

    no worries, get plenty of people like me who would gladly fill your void and buy season tickets.

    if you no like, beat it and go find another college football team in hawaii to watch. if you like, e komo mai.

    so simple, but why always say things here like “oh but chow, he stay ruining everything cos of dat i not going buy tickets brah until they fire him” if he lose next year yeah probably good chance he’s gone. if he wins what, “oh sorry eh norm, i neva believe you could do it and i sorry i went hurt you and the team da odda years…i just wanted you guys fo’ win”

    donkeys….we all want the team to win, so why hurt them in the process knowing already chow is here for year 3.

  106. ai-eee-soos December 5, 2013 6:24 pm

    Notre Dame expresses interest in Sheraton Hawaii Bowl
    Posted: Dec 05, 2013 4:32 PM Updated: Dec 05, 2013 6:10 PM

    By Mike Cherry – bio | email

    HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) –
    Sources have confirmed with Hawaii News Now’s Mike Cherry that the University of Notre Dame has expressed interest in playing in the 2013 Sheraton Hawaii Bowl in Honolulu on December 24.

    Sources tell HNN there is a possibility the Fighting Irish could play at Aloha Stadium, but the chances are slim because of the numerous pieces that would have to be moved in order to make the matchup happen.

    For starters, the 2013 Sheraton Hawaii Bowl is contractually tied to teams from the Mountain West and Conference USA.

  107. Old Diver December 5, 2013 6:24 pm


    Let’s also not forget who the players who were being mistreated by Chow and staff were calling for advise.

  108. Former UH Athlete December 5, 2013 6:32 pm

    106… The Hawaii Bowl people better be doing everything they can to get ND in the game. Otherwise, it’ll be 5,000 turnstile. Nobody from the MWC travels well (UH might have the best road crowd) and C-USA is a loooooong way for fans to travel.

    Having ND in the game ensures a lot of people will watch on “The Ocho” and a decent amount of people come to the stadium.

  109. Moocher December 5, 2013 6:37 pm

    so the brainiacs did not include in the contract MWC, Conference USA, and Independents knowing the big draws that BYU and Notre Dame can bring thus leaving that door open.

    MWC not so bright sometimes. Consider if MWC didn’t get a sniff of what benson and the WAC were doing, there might not even be an MWC today but a better WAC with a BYU and hawaii not paying travel subsidies the way they are now.

  110. Derek December 5, 2013 6:47 pm

    Any mid-year transfer should include a JC QB. That’s #1

    The reasons why our defense has been terrible is based on several factors.
    1) Our offense is not an option team, and we don’t practice much against the read option. Thus, we cannot simulate our defense against a lot of teams that run that type of offense very well.
    2) The rules favor the offense, both in college and the pros. Scoring is up.
    3) We give up a lot of 3rd down conversions, while often our offense has gone 3 and out. That wears out our defense too.
    4) Either the other team’s offense is very good or our pass defense is terrible. We have played against a lot of good QBs this year, i.e. Carr, Mannion, Smith, Fales, etc.
    5) You have to say that we have been outcoached too. Our 3rd qtr performance is evidence that half time adjustments are not being made successful.
    6) I’m sure there are others, but coaching is #1. The schemes, the techniques, the calls at the right time, studying the tapes and the tendencies, attention to detail and fundamentals, and preparation.

  111. NorthShoreFan December 5, 2013 6:53 pm

    #106…hmmmm they sniffing out another Manti Teo type player?…

    inre. Sheraton Hawaii Bowl, who owns the game?…and having a MWC team in it would be a no brainer but the opponent should be open to who ever the better match up or draw would be. imho…

  112. NorthShoreFan December 5, 2013 6:56 pm

    Congrats. Tuileta Player of the Year???

  113. Former UH Athlete December 5, 2013 7:25 pm

    102. If UH wins 4 or 5 and lose a few close ones, I think Chow’s safe for a 4th season, but definitely on hot seat.

    For sure safe if get 6 wins or more

    I gotta think he’s gone one way or another if 3 wins or less.

    I don’t think UH will extend Chow even if he pulls a miracle and wins 8 or more. I think UH will milk his $500k pay as long as they can. If some other program steals him away, so be it because the roster is in much better shape for the next guy should that scenario play out.

  114. Former UH Athlete December 5, 2013 7:41 pm

    114… Day 6 of the offseason ends… TK is still DC.

    Maybe it’ll be the case of the Mondays… Never good to give somebody bad news on a Friday.

  115. Bugaz December 5, 2013 7:50 pm

    I crack up at the “true fan police”. Also people quoting in Pigeon English as if the people complaining about the program are low class idiots or something. Oh well go coaches go Warriors and right the ship. Aloha

  116. Stephen Tsai December 5, 2013 8:12 pm

    You know the type of person Chow is?
    Had some lengthy conversations, buddy?

  117. Stephen Tsai December 5, 2013 8:14 pm

    I think it’s “pidgin.”
    Personally, I dislike pigeons. My car does, too.

  118. Warrior Dave December 5, 2013 8:43 pm

    I don’t think any coaching changes will happen until after LOI day. A change now may hurt recruiting. They may hired someone to fill Price’s position.

  119. Bugaz December 5, 2013 8:46 pm

    Haha it sure is. I’m a dumby! Lol

  120. Bugaz December 5, 2013 8:49 pm

    Not many pigeons by my hale, but choke pidgin. My ka’a hate da poundahz.

  121. Jim Mayfield December 5, 2013 8:53 pm

    Kapahulu: Thank you for the reminder to vote for Hartong. Just cast my ballot. She has a slight lead. I also reminder my daughter to vote for her,

  122. Jim Mayfield December 5, 2013 8:58 pm

    FAN, comment #48: Great discussion. As I am from the neighbor islands, tough for me to attend the games. Fortunately, I attended the ARMY game. Maybe if I had attended the earlier games…..

  123. cocobean December 5, 2013 9:01 pm

    #116. Did I tell you in my former life I was a profiler for the FBI. I’ve seen every Inside Access and just about every interview Chow has done since his introductory presser. From what I’ve gathered I’ve come to the conclusion that one one Chow’s traits is loyalty and another is the inability to admit to any specific mistakes he and his staff has made. It would go against what I perceive to be his character to blame another coach for a loss. That’s the loyalty part of his personality. To fire TK would be like he’s admitting to a specifc mistake in hiring him in the first place.

    All kidding aside. Just giving my opinion of what Chow is like. From your conversations with Chow what kind of person do you make him out to be? I wish I were a profiler for the Feds just like a former poster wished he was a litigator with many relatives who were former NFL players. The difference between he and I is I’ve slept at several Holiday Inn Expresses while he hasn’t.

  124. kapakahi December 5, 2013 9:58 pm


    Regarding mid-year JC transfers, wassup with Polk?

  125. alwaysarainbow December 5, 2013 10:04 pm

    # 48. Well said.

  126. SoGood December 5, 2013 10:37 pm

    I think less change on the DC and more so on the OC side. Our offense turned the ball over, put them in short fields to defend, and held up as much as possible. The O – turnovers, without Iosefa the O was terrible and even Iosefa was getting hit in the backfield but is strong enough to bail them out and get a yard or two, play calling, receivers don’t catch or run routes as well as before…I dunno I personally just think the Grad Assistants and screw up with the Price issue is/was the bigger issue and only the StarAdvertiser is trying to stoke the public fire re: TK

    Lets hold on to Tuileta – Congrats to him and UH

  127. al December 5, 2013 11:03 pm

    we averaged 600 yards plus the last two games.
    the second half of the season it was the offense that kept us in the games.
    i attribute that primarily to the steady oline improvement and to the development of ga Jordan wynn.

  128. al December 5, 2013 11:11 pm

    what hurt the most were the big plays that we gave up all too often.
    the lack of team speed was “identified” by tk from day one.
    whereas one could coach up a player, you can only recruit d1 speed..

  129. Stephen Tsai December 5, 2013 11:25 pm

    I would like to assure people I’m not holding back any information.
    Every so often, the boss asks what possible stories will be on the budget. I said UH is evaluating the positions and if there are any changes, I’ll write about it. But, alas, two of my colleagues caught wind of my conversation and jumped the gun.
    So, yes, the positions are still going to be evaluated, but as of now, the focus all week has been on Wilson’s memorial service. Chow, Dr. Ignacio and Teri Chang have been running around looking for urns, setting up the viewing and the program.
    Anyway, if anything happens, we’ll have it.
    You may continue to debate.

  130. Stephen Tsai December 5, 2013 11:26 pm

    … Conversely, if nothing happens, I’ll have nothing on it

  131. al December 5, 2013 11:39 pm


    don’t they know that you all work for the only paper in town?
    shouldn’t the rivalry have ceased?

  132. ai-eee-soos December 6, 2013 12:12 am

    This must be the only newspaper, with TWO sports columnists on its staff.

    How much longer … ?

  133. al December 6, 2013 12:16 am

    rivalry = envy?

  134. ai-eee-soos December 6, 2013 4:11 am

    ESPN: Chris Peterson to be named Washington coach.

    waiting for the official announcement.

  135. ai-eee-soos December 6, 2013 4:19 am

    “Boise State: It will be interesting to see if Boise State targets Justin Wilcox or Bryan

    Harsin. “

  136. Slugger December 6, 2013 4:59 am

    Good morning!

    Stephen, you work with Larry & Curley. What do you expect? 🙂

    Hope everything for Willis’ memorial comes together.

  137. 99club December 6, 2013 5:41 am

    Good morning Tsaikos. Interesting news about Peterson going to Washington. I thought he’d never leave. Is Boise St. done?

    I like what Coach Chow is building and believe the next several years are going to be fun.

  138. wafan December 6, 2013 6:04 am

    Happy Aloha Friday, Tsai-kos!

  139. boolakanaka December 6, 2013 6:10 am

    Boise, is sucking air this morning. More like a gasp. Very surprising—on the other hand, as far as careers go, the most germane thing to always keep in mind is “when is the most appropriate time to leave??’ Well, in most instances it is when you have cache and market value–and that’s for any career.

    My own 2 cents is that he recognized the limits of BSU and identified some upside UW and its greater resources and exposure. Couple that with his son is about to enter HS, he also probably want to set some stability in place. Finally, for all of us, the thought, of no matter how good it is in our present position, the thought of playing with the proverbial “big boys” is a fairly large impetus for considering the move. Interesting move, and personally, I think, not too surprising.

  140. wasabi December 6, 2013 6:39 am

    99 club….are you kidding????

  141. tom mui December 6, 2013 6:46 am


    Money cannot buy poverty!

  142. Bugaz December 6, 2013 6:50 am

    Aloha kakahiaka kākou! Best of luck vball wahine.

  143. Bugaz December 6, 2013 6:54 am

    What does that mean “money cannot buy poverty”?

  144. tom mui December 6, 2013 7:14 am


    It is a deadheat in the vote for Emily and the Florida girl. Every vote counts.

  145. boolakanaka December 6, 2013 7:24 am

    Gary Kubiak just shown the door. Merry Xmas….not. So, perhaps, he can be the QB coach for JJ, in the fictional scenario of JJ returning to the islands, and making a phoenixesque apperance to save the program and Hawai’i–not.

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