Restocking the Warriors
Interim head coach Chris Naeole spoke of the emptied cupboard, a metaphor for the depletion caused by injuries and other circumstances.
In looking ahead — way ahead to 2016 — the Warriors appear to have the essentials to restock. Of course, a lot depends on the next head coach and the system he will employ. But here are the in-program players who will be available:
> Quarterback: Aaron Zwahlen needed this redshirt season to get rid of the rust after serving a two-year mission. Because he was never declared a redshirt officially, he was able to travel to four games. That experience should be helpful next year.
> Running back: A few weeks ago, Diocemy Saint Juste recovered from a hamstring injury. By that point, it was decided this could be used as a redshirt season. Saint Juste will be a junior next year; Paul Harris, Mel Davis and Steven Lakalaka will be seniors.
> Receiver: As a partial-qualifier, John Ursua was allowed to practice but not play in games this season. The restrictions are lifted next year. Ursua has dazzled on the scout offense as a receiver, running back and, even, option quarterback. He probably will compete as a returner next year, too.
> Offensive line: The Warriors are redshirting Matt Norman, Luke Clements, Austin Webb and JR Hensley. Antonio Flowers insists he still is joining. One of the best from the 2015 class is Eperone Moananu, who was moved to defensive tackle several weeks ago. The widespread view is Moananu’s future is on offense.
> Defensive line: What little depth the Warriors had at nose tackle thinned by 320 pounds when Samiuela Akoteu suffered a broken foot in training camp. He’ll be ready for spring ball.
> Linebacker: It was a relatively quick decision to move Solomon Matautia from safety to linebacker; it was a longer — and more debatable — decision to redshirt him this season. He was ready to play this season. He should be impactful in 2016.
> Cornerback: During a three-week stretch, Rojesterman Farris took reps with the second-team defense and was on a travel roster. But he did not play in any games this season, and now he has four years of eligibility remaining beginning in 2016.
> Safety: Strong safety Trayvon Henderson suffered a season-ending ACL injury against Ohio State. Because the injury occurred within the first three games and he did not redshirt in his first two UH seasons, Henderson is eligible to apply for a medical redshirt for this year.
Tell me I’m I’m dreaming did last Saturday night’s game really happened
You were dreaming.
Second. The cupboard seems very bare indeed. Too much time elapsed causing over bleeding in my view. New coach will need to be selected soon along with assistance coaches who are all needed to recruit. Hope the AD steps on the gas and does he job asap. It’ll take a few years to hopefully build again to winning ways.
Geez our depth is thin.
That’s what happens when your coaches can’t recruit and have no connections.
I like that…the Warriors…and not the Rainbow Warriors
Sounds like change is coming
For the “Winners never quit and quitters never win” acolytes, you may want to remember success is tied to quitting. Persevering is the key to failure for many.
For example, these successful people quit high school or college:
–Sheldon Adelson, billionaire casino owner.
–Micky Arison, billionaire chairman of Carnival Cruise Line, owner of the Miami Heat NBA team.
–Steve Ballmer, billionaire chief of Microsoft.
–Glenn Beck, radio and TV political commentator.
–Charles Bluhdorn, multi-millionaire creator of Gulf & Western conglomerate.
–Barbara Bradley Baekgaard, multimillionaire co-founder of Vera Bradley handbag and apparel company.
–Richard Branson dropped out at 15: The Virgin Group founder is an international powerhouse currently worth about $4.9 billion
–Warren Buffett, billionaire chairman of Berkshire Hathaway.
–Felix Dennis, multimillionaire magazine publisher, Maxim, Blender, and others.
–Richard Desmond, billionaire publisher. Dropped out of high school.
–Matt Drudge, multi-millionaire Internet blogger.
–Larry Ellison, billionaire co-founder of Oracle software company. He dropped out of the University of Chicago after one year. He later also dropped out of the University of Illinois.
–David Geffen, billionaire founder of Asylum Records and Geffen Records and co-founder of DreamWorks.
–Brendan Iribe, co-founder and CEO of Oculus VR (virtual reality) which he then sold to Facebook for $2 billion. He dropped out of the University of Maryland.
–Peter Jennings, news anchor, ABC’s World News Tonight. Failed the 10th grade. Left high school at 16 to work as a bank teller. He later attributed his failure in high school to boredom and laziness.
–Henry J. Kaiser, multimillionaire founder of Kaiser Aluminum. A high school dropout.
–Rob Kalin, multimillionaire founder of Esty.
–David Karp, billionaire founder of Tumblr.
–Mark Zuckerberg, billionaire founder of Facebook. He dropped out of Harvard
Adding 1 or 2 guys to the mix at certain positions isn’t going to help us immensely. As Jeeezy pointed out we are super thin at many positions. We don’t have enough D1 guys that can make a difference.
Our fearless leader is pointing out players that didn’t play this year who will be available next year. He didn’t name the returning starters or those who’ve had significant playing time except for the RBs.
The new coach will have to recruit like heck but he’ll already have players he can work with.
Then I observed that most people are motivated to success because they envy their neighbors. But this, too, is meaningless—like chasing the wind.
He might live a thousand years twice over but still not find contentment. And since he must die like everyone else—well, what’s the use?
Mahalo to Coach Nae’ole and the Warriors for keeping up the fight. We have yet to see the very best from our Warriors, but when we do, it will be something special.
Mahalo to Coach Nae’ole for stepping up when the Warriors needed him. This hasn’t been an easy season for the fans, coaches or the players. Keep your heads up and never stop fighting, Warriors!
No.6 –Yet true godliness with contentment is itself great wealth.
Are Milton and Timeteo still committed? Are the coaches still recruiting or completely checked out and working on their resumes?
Oh yeah – almost forgot – Mahalo Stephen Tsai for keeping us informed and getting the stories behind the scenes about the players, their families and their coaches.
This kind of season can’t be easy for the hardest working sports reporter in town.
(P.S. Please send the check ASAP to the usual address. :lol:)
Warriors are getting 10 points against the Spartans.
Like Barry Alvarez once said “better get your season tickets now”. The cool breeze of change is on the horizon. Regardless of how things are the cupboard is not bare. If that changes -go shopping!!!! Two weeks left then seismic change! Get on board the giant is about to wake-Go Warriors!!!
Balko, you need to check or tell the entire story for some of your examples—as they very much indeed graduated from college in some instances–
For example–Warren Bufffet- transferred to the University of Nebraska–Lincoln where at nineteen, he graduated with a Bachelor of Science in business administration. After being rejected by Harvard Business School, Buffett enrolled at Columbia Business School upon learning that Benjamin Graham taught there. He earned a Master of Science in economics from Columbia in 1951.
Or Steve Ballmer–In 1977, he graduated magna cum laude from Harvard University with an A.B. in applied mathematics and economics.
Mahalo ST for the player information and all that you do. It is my sincere hope that AD Matlin goes through all 50 plus applications quickly and then offers June Jones soon and not later. In respect to all the current coaches who may have a desire to be part of the new coach, announcing soon will be of benefit to them.
I am not quite as pessimistic as some regarding our red shirts and returning players. I know well that we are on a grim losing streak. But with a couple of exceptions (Boise, Airforce) we were in the games we played against the MWC teams and had a reasonable chance of winning. Sure we need more talent but I don’t think the cupboard is that bare. But perhaps I am overly optimistic. You have to be an optimist to keep showing up to the games these last four years.
ahoha everyone !! like i said before thank you ST for all the good information ,any body that going to need a day after this season is going to be you !!
ST i know coach Chris Naeole says he trying to win !! witch we all are hope for !! heck even a tie i would be happy !! but a cant see why no Beau Reilly at qb yet even in a blow out ? is he that bad ?
June accepts the job…offers Naeole to be on staff with one request, to play B Reiley/A Zwahlen and other recievers this coming game and next…redshirt, blueshirt no matter…kids leave college their Jr year all around the country if they got what it takes..let’s see if these kids got what it takes..if not, transfers and more scholarship available to the next best player
#2, in your dream was it raining like it was on Saturday? If so it is safe to assume you had a Wet, oh never mind
I think FearGod is dreaming…..
8. One problem i really have is when you look at all the MWC teams, every team has a legit RB and grooms more RBs to take over when needed. Hawaii hasn’t had 1 decent RB under Chow. Iosefa is more a FB to me and he wasn’t even a Chow recruit. It really goes to show the lack of connections Chows staff had. RB is a position where there are so many good ones in high school that the top teams in the country can’t keep them all and mid majors can land studs like Pumphrey, Ervin, Hill, McNichols, Waller, and so on.
There is a difference between being competitive and deep. The past four years have given us the weakest recruiting classes since JJ took over 17 years ago. It will take a good four years to remedy that. That said we can be competitive in the short term if we get the right coach and we get lucky on the injury front.
No.24–at least it’s not raining like it was on Saturday
Good morning everyone!
Thanks for the injury status, ST. At this point in the season there is no strategic value in hiding the injuries from the opponents. When you write your book on UH football, I would be very curious about the chapter on Norm Chow and his final year… he never used it as an excuse, but how badly were we beat up from 2 body bag games in a 15 day span with another game in between? Then off to play Boise the next week with predictable results.
The 2008 chapter on June Jones, which I predicted would be titled, “The Once and Future Coach” back then, is a must-read. I hope it is prophetic.
Re: Nov 15 posts #2 and #30 on players staying to sing the post-game alma mater
Kudos to Julian Gener, David Manoa, Malachi Mageo, RJ Hollis, and Duke Bukowski who walked over to the north end zone at the conclusion of the Fresno State game to sing the alma mater with the UH band. These players showed their commitment to their alma mater and the fans. After the UH band finished playing the alma mater, RJ Hollis saluted the band and the remaining fans – he showed a lot of class and respect for what the alma mater stands for.
I’m a life long UH football fan (long time lurker and first time poster) that has stayed to the end of every game that I’ve attended. My dad was a season ticket holder; I am a season ticket holder and I’ve been bringing my youngest daughter to the games to show her how to be a loyal fan. My two oldest children are in the UH marching band and will be UH fans for the rest of their lives. If you watched the UH band during all of the home games and even on the road in Nevada, they are consistently cheering for the team no matter what the score is or how the team is performing.
Those of us who sat through the game, endured the rain and congregated in the north end zone were there to honor the team for their effort and to honor our alma mater. However, we were disappointed that the players other than those named above chose to ignore this tradition and literally turn their backs on their alma mater and their loyal fans.
I understand that the post-game protocol was unclear due to the coaching change, but this is a tradition that has been going on for three and a half seasons.Those of us staying for the post-game alma mater were very disappointed in the poor attitude of the players who felt that this tradition was no longer necessary after Coach Chow’s dismissal.
I will continue to be a loyal UH fan and will be at the next two games cheering the team on as all fans should do. My hope for the final two games is that the team plays hard, plays smart, and plays with dignity and respect for the tradition of UH rainbow warrior football.
26. Exactly why I have been pissed every recruiting season and the fans all get pissed at me for being honest. I know what a good recruiting class is and what being persistent in recruiting is. Chow post recruiting class interviews were a joke how he tried to sell signing everyone they brought in for a visit.
Uh Utah State and New Mexico didn’t have any problems with Boise. Other than Ursua and maybe Zwahlen, it doesn’t look good for UH next year. I agree with Old Diver UH will be hurting for the next few years as they need to recruit an entire new roster of players before we’ll be any good. Remember the hype that this was the best set of linebackers UH ever had? That we’re going to score 75 touchdowns? Ah, how talk is cheap. For our family, we watch pay per view at my Mom’s house. My sister and her family left after the first quarter. Everybody else except me, my Mom and girlfriend left at halftime. We aren’t even going to watch this weekend or next. We give up. Forget UH football already. It’s been four years of pathetic misery and we have had enough. There are other things to do with our lives than watch this misery. Have fun. Don’t think I’ll be posting here anymore. Goodbye UH football. It was once a lot of fun, but no more.
30. It sucks but UH is going to have to go JC heavy in year 1. and we can’t recruit the non D1 type JC kids Chow went after. Need to tap into Texas, Cali, and maybe even the south like Mississippi.
All great illustrations. One commonality? They all didn’t QUIT!
I swear why do some people think JJ is a lock to be the HC next year? JJ this JJ that blah blah blah JJ is a quitter, he quit on SMU just 2 games into the season. You really want a quitter as the HC? I would like to see someone else become the HC but as we all know the AD will choose who he wants. For example look at the Bball team. Benjy Taylor did an awesome job and look what happened they did not keep him and the AD hired who he had in mind the whole time. Lets see Eran Ganot can get 20+ wins this season.
Guud Morning Tsaikos…bootiful day. again
Anyhoo, aside from those mentioned above, we’ll need more of the current crop to step up. This is an opportunity to “get it done” and be recognized. Whomever the new HC hired, he’ll will be looking at the body of work these guys have put out this season. Scholies may be taken away or not renewed.
Balko, #7 your point is well taken but… imho, those people on your list didn’t quit. They changed direction. They knew what they wanted and went about it a different way. Some, if not all of them, probably could have given their teachers a lesson.
Not sure if JJ is going to be able to mend fences with some high school HC’s. Many quality boyz was snubbed or not given a look see. That needs to change. We’ll need to recruit our back yard harder than the Big 5 peeps. They got more, we have less and it’ll have to be a full out effort to get our boyz to stay home. I’m not in the know about who of the underclassmen have been offered but it starts early with continual follow up. Got to show the love.
I think the most needed insight for this team is a pair of new eyes. Much like when JJ came in 99, he and his staff did a great review of all the players and assessed their talent level and where they would fit best given their skills. We need fresh eyes to evaluate what we have for the future.
They all FAILED but never QUIT!
It’s ok to fail. We all do sometime or another. It’s unrealistic to think otherwise. But we don’t all QUIT.
Walt Disney went bankrupt several times before he created Mickey Mouse. Babe Ruth struckout more than he homered, but they persevered.
I’m not saying all the guys on the team have given up. But you can just see it in their countenance. Frustration has grown to epidemic levels and has led some to give up.
It’s ok to fail and even get frustrated. But “WINNER’S NEVER QUIT, AND QUITTER’S NEVER WIN”!
Seems with the constant changing of coaches the past 4 years, we shot ourselves in the foot. The boyz had to learn from different coaches each year. No stability. Too much change. We need to learn a system well in order to execute well. Then we can make a decision if the plan needs to be changed.
the AD will choose who he wants?….not without being heavily influenced by those behind the scenes…the closet peeps (legislature bureaucrat & those they put in higher up positions at UH). The AD should take an under the influence test after the HC is selected.
Recruiting was not good and that was pointed out by multiple outside reviewers. Then we got to see for ourselves. But I think a good coach can build something out of what is left using a scheme that will maximize what the players can do and bridge this to his system over time. The enemies of the next coach are need for more talent to match up to the average MWC team, more talent to match the coach’s schemes, and more depth. The other enemy will be the time it takes to rebuild the offensive line, and the offensive and defensive units– a year is not enough and two years is barely enough if a coach is good enough at rebuilding.
If Vavae somehow changes his mind and decides to stay home, that would be good, but how can you turn down the Ducks. Harris runs well and if he gains some good weight and strengh and muscle to around 205-15 that would improve his stock. He certainly can make some good long runs with his speed. He can work on his change of direction and vision, but he’s done well, and he played hurt. I played hard.
My question at this point is if the game is out of reach, why not try putting in Beau Riley into the game for one or two series at QB. Worst case he couldn’t be any worse than the other two guys. Also, it would be a good way to evaluate where he’s at before next year.
I get that our recruiting has been sub-par. However, I don’t think the current staff deliberately went out and tried to fail at recruiting. They got the best that they could. Would you expect them to be truthful and talk down about the recruits they just signed? So my question to all you recruiting gurus out there is this, what is the answer? How do we get talented recruits in the south, Cali, Texas, etc. How do we keep the best Hawaii recruits home, given the lack of facilities, coaching pedigree and wins? This is not a knock on you guys, I honestly want to know what you think the answer is.
I feel the cupboard for next season is: 1) very promising 2) comprise a substantial core of returnees to build around and 3) only one area may be a concern – linebackers. Four linebackers, Lance Williams, Benny Fonua, Julian Gener and Simon Poti are seniors that will leave a big hole. Otherwise, the incoming coaching staff won’t be stressed as they will have the luxury of balancing an incoming class to fill immediate and future needs to match their chosen offensive and defensive strategies.
This is all the more urgent, for you know how late it is; time is running out. Wake up, for our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed.
So when all these things begin to happen, stand and look up, for your salvation is near!”
Surely his salvation is near to those who fear him,
so our land will be filled with his glory.
33. Here’s the issue. JJ didn’t quit. But the reasons he was forced to resign might be worse than the reputation that he quit. So regardless how you look at it, it was really ugly.
Let’s face facts gang. Like him or not…….
JJ is the only one on the list that has the credentials, the know-how, the connections, (NFL and coaching staff choices) the history, (not only as a coach, but as a player), and dare I say…. Even the LOVE for Hawaii and it’s people to pull this thing off!
I would love to see Rich Miano as JJ’s DC and to keep Naeole, Samuseva and Abe.
JJ is a proven commodity. Yes, he has made many mistakes, but which one of US HASN’T??? His mistakes are just multiplied and magnified because he’s in the public eye. I cringe when I think if all my mistakes were laid out for all to see and scrutinize.
I like believe he has learned from his mistakes and will be a better person and coach. I for one, am in his corner.
Can we replace Kekaula, please? Kanoa, Howard, Felipe or Papa Jim back please???? Just switch Keakaula and Kanoa! How hard could that be?????
44. LB is not that big a concern to me. I think Solomon Matautia comes in right away and out performs Poti. Mageo should be pretty good too. Hopefully Russell Williams improves. Castro and Tavai return on the outside. Gener is a huge loss. The issue all season has been out D line and lack of depth. It will be a big issue next season unless we sign 3 quality JC kids. Maybe Netani Muti plays as a true FR.
The biggest sign that last years recruiting class was terrible was that we couldnt even sign one defensive lineman. Not one! Dont tell me that they couldnt even find a diamond in the rough kind of guy. Only late after signing day did they sign that Akoteu kid but D line should of been our number one priority.
maybe time to move Ikaika Woolsey to Defensive side of the ball . in the past some the qb turn out better Defensive back !!
Ron you don’t know the facts to call JJ a quiter. The boosters at SMU all have deep pockets and have deep influences at SMU that create problems. As one Texan told me that SMU is full of rich kids. JJ had his reasons to leave Hawaii and he was honest in saying that part of the reason was the financials. There have been too many rumors that have slurred his character which is totally unfair. A lot of the rumors have been false. JJ is back in Hawaii and wants to bring Hawaii back. He is a motivator and innovator and will give Hawaii the best chance with all his experience. Any coach coming to Hawaii will find it difficult no matter what style of offense. If you don’t understand the political and cultural nuisances in Hawaii than the road will be difficult. These are the things to be considered when hiring a new coach. Coach Chow although from Hawaii, He was just too far removed from trully understanding what it took to coach here from being on the mainland soo long.
if we switch to a 4-3, i think our DL depth will be ok if we recruit a couple of JC kids.
Interior – Kennedy, Gifford, Rasmussen are proven guys. 2 more will have to step up, Akoteu, Choi, Muti, and 2 JC kids can fight it out.
Edge – no one really proven. i would move Tui Unga, Castro and Tavai to DE and see how they do. along w Meffy. maybe go after 1 JC pass rusher.
would definitely like to use more blitzes to get pressure on the QB. need to make use of our backers like JGW, Matautia and even safeties/NB. id ask Mulanga to move down to OLB.
Time for change in HAWAII
JJ for HC & Duke Aiona for Governor & Tulsi Gabbart for Lt Governor
or do we remain in a DEMOCRACK state of mind
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I can’t believe we’re going to “gum things up” again, but putting together a “committee” to go over the HC candidates…Just leave Matlin alone and have him choose his fate. Once again, too many cooks in the kitchen and we end up screwing things up. I hope whatever recommendation Matlin makes, that the chancellor “backs off” and supports his choice.
I heard on the Bobby Curran show this morning that Pat Hill from Fresno State applied for the UH Head Coaching job. That would be an interesting hire considering how good of a recruiter he was for Fresno State and how well his teams did over the years against Hawaii and the rest of the Moutain West.
#49. Hawaii was in tough battles to recruit several D-Linemen, but lost out to Washington State and UNLV. The D coaching staff were handicapped because of the previous D-Coordinator’s unanticipated departure. That left a hole in the recruiting process and I think that’s when we lost Kahuku’s Salanoa Alo-Wily to UNLV. Lost in the shuffle is Jr transfer from Kansas State, Tyson Beaune, 6-1/340. There has not been an update on Tyson’s playing status, but he is on the roster/#86. Freshman Sione Kauhi #59, 6-5/275 was moved from TE to the D-Line. Sione was recruited as a TE/DE. But I agree recruiting could have been better; a lot better. Still, I thought the interior D-linemen played well this season. Generally, opposing running backs exploited Warriors running to the outside and turned up-field for good yardage. But the real killers were the quick, 60+ yard passing TDs the Warriors gave up; and often. Only Air Force made Hawaii look like chumps by rushing and gobbling up yardage with ease. I have no explanation for what happened. Like getting hit by an 18-wheeler going full speed.
Well said #54 @Bow. Matlin is more than capable, and he will pick the right guy. Why are we holding him back?
Bring out the people who have eyes but are blind,
who have ears but are deaf.
Then will know for sure if D Matlin is given the right to choose
It is better to be a poor but wise youth than an old and foolish king who refuses all advice.
They the Politicians want in on the hire but won’t pay. They wanna play but won’t pay
At the outset of Barry Alvarez’s career at Wisconsin, his Badgers suffered a bunch of embarrassing losses to Mid-American Conference schools.
On his coach’s show, I recall him rising out of a coffin, then saying, “We’re not dead yet.”
That should be the football program’s rally cry.
“We’re not dead yet.”
49. Forget the positions… Dalton Gouveia, Austin Webb, DJ Riggins, Trey Linton, Dayton Furuta, and Manly Williams are enough to tell me we didn’t even bother trying to recruit D1 kids. I apologize for naming names but we all know by 19 if were D1 caliber vs JC caliber.
I’d like to see this process with UH to the people of Hawaii:
Start a fire in our soul
Fan the flame and make it grow
So there’s no doubt or denying
What about Colton Goeas. I thought he was supposed to transfer back home? If he can get into the mix then we should have some solid LBs.
#47 – It was great when Kekaula was the radio analyst with Bobby Curran.
FearGod… no disrespect, but why would you want (and I don’t think JJ or any incoming coach would ask) Naeole to play any players (who are going to redshirt this year) to play now and lose 1 whole year of eligibility for just 2 games. Sorry, but don’t make sense.
DA PANEL ##FOR THE NEXT FOOTBALL HEAD COACH !!
The school said the panel “has already begun the process of reviewing applications that have been received.”
Named to the group are:
Carl Clapp — Associate Athletics Director, UHM Athletics Department.
Dan Harris-McCoy — Assistant Professor, Classics, UHM Languages & Literature of Europe and Americas; Chair of the Faculty Senate Committee on Athletics, Member of Athletics Advisory Board.
Lori Ideta — Vice Chancellor for Students, UHM.
Eric Okasaki — Head Athletic Trainer, UHM Athletics Department.
Amanda Paterson — Director of Compliance, UHM Athletics Department.
Roxie Shabazz — Assistant Vice Chancellor for Enrollment Management and Director of Admissions, UHM.
Mike Trapasso — Head Baseball Coach, UHM Athletics Department.
Hugh Yoshida — Ahahui Koa Anuenue Chair & Former Athletics Director, UHM Athletics Department
Athletics Department Human Resources Specialist Paula Nishimoto will help guide the hiring process
Heard on radio Matlin has named a group of advisors to help him vet the applications for HC. Names I recall were Hugh Yoshida, Mike Trepasso, head trainer (can’t remember name), Amanda Patterson. That’s all I can remember.
Last week I heard opinions that JJ might not be Matlin’s first choice from usually sagacious people (I defer on saying who the lead candidate might be). I posit that Matlin is a businessman–running the Hawaii Bowl is not a non-profit venture–neither is being Athletic Director, and that season ticket sales have fallen dramatically and walk-up sales are almost nonexistant…and the empty stands say a lot more than discussion groups and blogs could say. How do you you reverse this trend?
You need a head coach that can step in, rally the players and fans, and bring some excitement and optimism back to UH football. The fans must rally by buying tickets again. How many will? How many season ticket renewals will you get? Any coach can do this to some degree, right?
All I know is that if June Jones returned, I will try to get seats closer to mid-field again… don’t need binoculars if you want to watch the receiver patterns and YAC. JJ seems the most credible coach to lure back fans– and sponsors. ESPN will pick up the great return story and maybe pick up a few games. ESPN’s Hawaii Bowl future will look brighter too.
How badly does UH need 2016 ticket sales? After all, we got and extra $2.3 million this year… 🙁
Caller immediately complained that Hugh was the one that picked VonAppen. That was the first thing that hit me when I first heard the list.
kids leave college their Jr year all around the country if they got what it takes..let’s see if these kids got what it takes..if not, transfers and more scholarship available to the next best player
If they have a great 3yrs beginning next yr….should they declare and enter the draft..their benefit
Should they be played now and produce immediately…next coach knows what he got..they may still leave in 3yrs..
you never know…Is the University looking out for it’s best interest or the players
you tell me….
69. Agree. Would have to be someone who can bring back the fans. Once they leave hard to get them back. To easy for them to find something else to do once they give up on the team. When I tell people UH football they just shake their heads. Whe I watch the replay my brother tells me that I must like punishment. I was hoping that Matlin would open his ears to people with knowledge about what is going on in the coaching community nationwide. I guess he no mo friends. Or maybe he does and am not saying?
Let’s Go Beau….Let’s Go Beau!
(I must have been a cheerleader in a former life…hehe)
UH just found it’s new mascot. Beau knows the last two games of the season is his for the taking
#69, you may want to consult with #47 on the matter of who may be best to HC the team. From his (#47) post I gather he has seen the list of applicants as he states Jones is the only applicant with the creds to be named HC.
Has the list been made public? I’d like to see who has applied.
Yoshida made amends for hiring von appen, by subsequently hiring JJ. it would be very surprising if yoshida does not recommend JJ (again).
If Matlin can find someone more qualified that JJ, then I can live with it. HOWEVER if Matlin was to pick Miano over JJ, then I would lose all respect for the guy. To hire someone like Miano(who have been away from college football for at least 4 years and have never been a HC and no track record of being able to run a D1 program) over a proven coach like JJ would be suicidal. I just wish Matlin would stop with all this “character” and “integrity” stuff already and just hire someone to rebuild your football program. Character and integrity are great traits to have if you looking for an ambassador to a foreign country. Football coaches are “crazy” in many ways and character/integrity and football coaches does not always go hand in hand.
Bill Belichick pushes the envelope. Sean Payton got suspended for allowing his DC to play rough. Bobby Petrino cheated on his wife. Nick Saban bailed out on an agreement to coach a NFL team. Chris Peterson hates to travel to Hawaii(LOL)…etc.. Having a good guy as a coach is not going to make your program go. We need a GOOD FOOTBALL COACH…not a pastor.
HERE WE GO AGAIN !! AD talked so big that this going to be him making the call and only him !! some forgot about da popet master at UH !! THIS IS WHY THE FOOTBALL TEAM IS SO BAD !! its not coaches or players its the higher up like always at UH !! dave Matlin strings just got shorter !!
Yoshida =von appen
Hugh Yoshida/Mike Trapasso = strike out !! lol
why not ST on the panel ? who know more about the football team then him ?
Interesting article on the boondoggle of college sports: “The $10-Billion Sports Tab: How College Students Are Funding the Athletics Arms Race”: http://chronicle.com/interactives/ncaa-subsidies-main#id=table_2014
When they get down to final candidates, I wish they would add one more person to the panel: Stephen Tsai
Here is a man who covered UH football for 25 years. He’s been to all practices, all home games, all road games, and reports on the team in the newspaper. He knew all the players, coaches, and back-stories/secrets that he cannot discretely say until he publishes his book upon retirement. He has probably personally met and dealt with most of the applicants as a reporter. His opinion should be highly sought (behind closed doors).
82. Look at the SEC. That is why they try so hard to keep tv money away from the small schools. That is why I have always thought that the have nots should break away from from the P5 form their own association not play P5 teams and broker their own tv deals.
But I still want Peyton Manning.
very well said 83 Tasi-ko
Z and Hitman, the advisory panel was formed to help the AD “vet” the candidate, not evaluate the candidate himself. The job is too onerous for one person to do in and expeditious manner. In my office I am responsible for vetting applicants, hiring, firing and all other HR matters. It takes me several hours to vet applicants. I check the accuracy of their resume, contact former employers and references, and conduct internet searches, which include criminal history, traffic violation history and financial background checks. It would take me two to three weeks to vet a list of 50 applicants for the HC job. Remember, college coaches move around from state to state, which exacerbates the vetting process. This tells me that Matling does not already have a coach in mind, but will consider all eligible applicants. However, without help, he will be spinning his wheels.
Fold the “Group of Five” teams with the FCS.
A former colleague of mine applied to become an FBI agent. The background check took 18 months. They even interviewed her elementary school teachers!
If Dave Matlin has an applicant that is more promising than JJ great……hire him. I would be interested in seeing JJ version 2. It would be an interesting storyline and would bring some excitement back to UH football quickly. If there is a better candidate then we should be in good shape for our rehab.
well lets hope it works that way !! but seeing how thing get done in gov !! and more at UH !! hope they name someone by the end of the season !! or if we drag on we might lose some other program looking at what we have !!
The new HC, must create a Buzz. Priority One for the AD is to get okoles back into the seats. Go ask the casual fan on the street who they want as the HC. The ‘sophisticates’ here may prefer a Pat Hill, Buzzy, or TBA, but who is the one coach with Buzz?
Seems to me that some people need to calm down a bit regarding the “Advisory” Panel. The panel does indeed seem to be purely advisory. It is stacked with representatives of different aspects of UH campus interests, as it should be, so that any concerns those groups might have can be vetted during the hiring process. Athletics doesn’t need to draw anymore battle lines between itself and other campus interest.
On the other hand no one on that list has the leverage to dictate Matlin’s decision. Quite the contrary. Seeing who is on that list should make it absolutely clear that this will be Matlin’s call all the way.
Ah, Not Nasti, your #88 beat me to the point, lol.
As I understand it once Matlin has makes his decision he summits it to the Chancellor. My question is from the time Matlin summits his choice how long will it take from that point to have the new coach “officially” on the job. He said he’ll make his decision by the middle of December.
ST: Do you know who the people are that have to “sign off” on Matlin’s decision?
We shall see. Just receive letter from Matlin asking for money. I wll wait until I see who the new coach is. I can wait. They can wait too. I will not settle for a VonApp 3.
If new contract exceeds a certain amount does it go to the BOR for approval?
Well now, the panel seems to be the best and sharpest football minds in the State of Hawaii.
Advisory panels is great way to CYA….thought this guys was fearless and going to call it his way. Starting to chicken neck his way out of it now. He forgot to put DR on the panel.
“82. Look at the SEC. That is why they try so hard to keep tv money away from the small schools. That is why I have always thought that the have nots should break away from from the P5 form their own association not play P5 teams and broker their own tv deals.”
that would be suicide. nobody cares about non-P5 teams. Nobody will give lucrative tv deals and huge bowl game payouts to Toledo, Troy, Directional Michigan, or UH.
There’s a reason why the NCAA caters to P5 interests and not mid major schools.
“Advisory panels is great way to CYA….thought this guys was fearless and going to call it his way. Starting to chicken neck his way out of it now. He forgot to put DR on the panel.”
If you think that Matlin is going to handle the ENTIRE vetting process from application to interview, BY HIMSELF, for all applicants, on top of all his other duties he has as AD, you need to get your head checked.
The advisory panel will advise, but from what he is saying, the final decision will be his and his alone.
z #98, got letter from Matlin asking for money.
I got one, too. Good idea, as Christmas is coming up.
Good gift idea: Season tickets :)… But if not JJ or
someone who would knock my Christmas socks off,
I will pass. Will see what happens in December.
Roger dat…having head checked tomorrow.
Matlin’s letter went straight into “file 13”
I have given enough to UH since 1969.
NSF after your visit tomorrow please let the office know to expect a big walk-in turn out within the next few days. Let me know how it turns out. Maybe I’ll call to make an appointment as well.
and what happens if the “advisory panel” actually dumps a “qualified” coach into the don’t hire bin?
yes, there are 50+ names who applied, but surely Matlin has made/kept a list of all the “possibles” to see what the “vetting” process does
The wheels on this bus goes round and round
Buzz Preston is a big NO! Has he even been a coordinator? He spent more time as a position coach and does not bring excitement at all.
I’m glad that Pat Hill applied for the HC position. I bet he would get along with the high school coaches better than JJ would. Shoot he probably met with some higher up’s that has influence in the hiring this past weekend. I’m all for Pat Hill. Anytime Any Place!!!!!!
Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
Maybe our next coach could find a diamond in these possible recruits.
Duke and Tulsi or this state will be in deeper kahoots
I have to admit I read and tossed Matlin’s letter aside…not quite in the trash yet, but close enough. My first impression is that he is trying to milk a dwindling herd (of fans). Much of the herd has little milk after giving to AKA for tickets, parking, and donations and little disposition to give more to the unknown.
Obviously Matlin has to build the herd up again to get more kala. The new Head Coach has to ring the cowbell and reassemble the herd… but in this case it matters who is ringing the bell… the herd has to be compelled to return and grow.
A panel would seem to me that June Jones is not getting the job.
Why do you need a panel for such a known quantity.
I think they’re going “outside the box” and hire somebody that will frustrate everybody on this blog.
“and what happens if the “advisory panel” actually dumps a “qualified” coach into the don’t hire bin?”
idk. if you have any actual insight into how the advisory panel is actually functioning and the actual vetting process itself, i’m all ears. if we’re just assuming that just because there’s a panel, all kinds of corrupt shenanigans and “Da Athletic Dept Hui” will interfere, then i’m not so much interested in that.
Mr Matlin, I repeat, DO NOT OVERTHINK THIS. Where else can you get $2,000,000 worth of coaching for $500,000.
” I’m all for Pat Hill. Anytime Any Place!!!!!!”
You forgot that UH isn’t about “any time, any place.” No back to back road games against nationally ranked teams, because the injuries! No bye week? no way! the travel! ye gods, the travel! “we will never travel across the country to play florida ever again” (i believe jim donovan once said, although i’m paraphrasing). etc.
It’s ok to listen to advisors if Upper Campus requires this of you, but the choice is yours and yours alone.
Pat Hill ????? It’s getting real interesting … question is if the Fresno State HC gets canned by next year and they come calling will he leave after just 1 year ??? If he is selected I’d make a “huge” buyout clause …
lol let’s place bets. i bet rod york would get hired before qb god pat hill.
Another thing about those players returning … the question is how many of ’em will transfer out once the new HC is selected ????? Let’s say as an example Ivin Jasper gets hired and runs the “flexbone” option offense … how many of the offensive players will want to stay and play in that offense or will the transfer to a school that runs an offense they feel comfortable in
June Jones is available and probably willing to coach for less than a hefty sum. It is a no brainer to hire him again. I read the book “Hawaii Warrior Football” up until chapter 40 (of 41 chapters). I quit reading after he left for SMU because I was so pissed. Till this day I stll have not finished the book. I would like to finish the final chapter when he gets rehired.
What are the politicians take on that book?
were they pissed as well. Do they want him to add to that book?
Norm chow didnt create an identity for UH. We dont have an offense that in known!
I hope Matlin can find someone that can make UH into something great like it was before!
Can i read that book online
The problem since JJ left has been mostly on offense. Even in JJs years, our defense wasn’t that good, but good enough. But then, our offense had enough to outscore the other guys. Thanks to Chang, Rolo, Brennan, Wheildon, Graunke, Robinson, and Moniz we had solid QB play to score enough points. With Mack toward the end and then Chow, the offense has been terrible. Not one solid, good QB who had the consistency to win more games than lose games. In fairness to Schroeder, he was terrible in the beginning, then got hurt, then after he got back he played better. He had his share of sacks and interceptions, but at least is completion percentage was decent. I blame Chow because he was supposed to be the so called, QB guru. What a joke! He is so old school and his evaluation and development of QBs here has been to be kind, atrocious. We haven’t had good defenses since some of Tomey’s teams and some of Wagner’s teams. Even when we went 12-0, the defense gave up a lot of points, but they managed to make big play after big play. We had a lot of luck in 2007, but good teams make their own luck too.
Who ever the new coach the needs in recruiting starts with at least 2, maybe 3 QBs. Who knows if Reilly and/or Zwahlen will stick around. They were Chow’s recruits so they might leave for other places. Things happen. I’m not saying it’s going to happen, but it’s a fact of life, people transfer all the time. Then we need a lot of defensive and offensive linemen, and at least 2 pass rushers. We haven’t had a very good sack man since Mark Odom and Travis LaBoy. A good coaching staff can fill in the pukas for the other positions. JJ and staff was able to get Myron Newberry, Gerard Lewis, and Ryan Mouton for the secondary from JCs in Texas. We also sorely need an electric kick returner like Chad Owens too. Jeezy33 likes Bradlee Anae and I agree he’s very good. Keala Santiago seems to make big plays too in the secondary. There are others locally that can play DI football who are not committed yet. Like I said, whoever the coach needs to be a good evaluator of talent along with his coaches then then sell the program, close it, then develop them. Under Chow there was no stability in his coaching staff. Man, he sure set back the UH program back at least 5 or 6 years. It’s all on Matlin now. Lose to Monroe in the last game and we will be the worst team, #128 in the Football Bowl Subdivision and that’s the lowest we can get.
P..S. Naoele was smiling when he got the interim tag, but I noticed that he’s not smiling now.
A BILL FOR AN ACT
RELATING TO UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII ATHLETICS.
§304A-A University of Hawaii at Manoa athletics; board of governors. (a) There is established an athletics department at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, which shall be governed by the board of governors of the athletics department at the University of Hawaii at Manoa.
The board of governors shall report to the University of Hawaii board of regents.
The athletics department of the University of Hawaii at Manoa, through its board of governors, shall submit an annual financial and management report to the University of Hawaii board of regents, the governor, and the legislature not less than twenty days prior to the convening of each regular session of the legislature.”
UH Athletics; Special Fund
Establishes the University of Hawaii at Manoa athletics department as an entity governed by a board of governors. Transfers administration of the University of Hawaii at Manoa intercollegiate athletics special fund from the university to the board of governors. Authorizes the board of governors to select an athletic director.
Is this the same process in selecting the HC
Note:left out a lot of other nonsense
It sounds like an open invitation for other people to get involved in the process. All a committe member has to do is say, hey, “I know someone who is retired but was part of the previous committee to select Chow, he may have some great input if we’re willing to listen.”
The next thing you know is the announcement by Matlin: “I have decided to choose an up and coming coach with a resume that involves a recommendation from Nick Saban. He runs the same type of offense as Alabama.”
115, You’re right. I hope Matlin doesn’t over think this.
Does not have to over think it because it will not be his choice.
He’s their scapegoat
Ask all the previous AD’s they must be all laughing
I guess when Matlin announced the decision was his and his alone, it sounded too good to be true.
UH admin: “I know you are busy. So what we will do is help you with the process of choosing the next HC. We will give you a name to choose from and at announcement time and you make the call and ano ounce it. Don’t worry! All you have to do is follow the lead of the advisory committee we have set up for you.”
Who knows with UH admin and the behind the scenes power brokers. I don’t think they want to leave a big decision like this to one person.
Well of course wouldn’t you know, Hugh Yoshida is on the committee.
If you’re a member of a, potentially, 2-win team, do you have a lot of options?
Woosley’s stats suggest that he is already an option quarterback.
Your list has one major caveat… Everybody on the list are extremely intelligent, and often referred to as “brilliant”. These types of people are actually too smart for school in that the structured confines of classroom learning of past knowledge actually slows them down, not make them smarter. These people quit school because they need space and freedom to develop their brilliant minds in ways s classroom never will.
All of these people have three things in common:
1. They have focused, determined vision;
2. They have incredible work ethic;
3. They have incredible will power/determination. Many of these people have failed, some several times, before getting their breakthrough.
Anyone staying up for the basketball game? Time for me to take a little snooze, then get up in time for the tipoff
Everyone is overthinking this development. Just sit back and enjoy the ride, worrying about who the new coach will be ain’t gonna pay your mortgage or your rent.
Your fears can come true still because you still have Lassner, Bley-Vroman, and the new contract review group to screw this up.
Matlin maybe can dodge his way past the politics, but Lassner and Bley-Vroman are very much a part of the politics that make UH appear incompetent.
Hawaii has fired Norm Chow, the coaching search begins
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Hawaii football coaching search: Pat Hill says he’s not a candidate for the job
PODCAST: Week 10 Mountain West football preview
I’m watching all the Criterion titles that I got 50% off from Barnes & Nobles before tipoff.
Tonight, I finished Wim Wenders’ “Wings of Desire” and Alex Cox’s “Repo Man”. Right now, I’m two-thirds of the way through David Cronenberg’s “Videodrome”.
Nevada returns all five starters.
Should be a challenge.
I think a lot of people are not in favor of another search committee. So UH admin said there will be no search committee. But, we will have an advisory committee.
Perhaps Matlin should update his resume. You never know what will happen a year from now.
Whenever I had to hire an employee I would do a cursory read of every resume/application even though there sometimes were 300 or more. I took notes and kept a list of applicants that caught my eye and seemed to be what I was looking for. I would then turn over all applications over to HR to be vetted. They did background checks and all other necessary checks. They then sent me a list of candidates that passed the process. I compared it to my list and if there was a candidate I was interested in, then I would have a detailed discussion with HR to find out why they rejected the applicant. In the end, even though there was a vetting process and advisory board (HR) the ultimate hire was mine to make – after all I knew better than HR on what I was looking for. Matlin, being an astute businessman, should be handling this hire in a similar manner. I have no doubt that he will make the best choice with all current factors in mind.
Can we impeach the Governor? What an idiot! He has just jeopardized our lives, and that of our kids and grandkids in the name of “Aloha”.
New Governor, new Coach (JJ), and pleeeeease…. A new Announcer. Kekaula is sooooo BAD!
The problem in establishing a formal committee of any type is that it creates a backdoor path for the chancellor to seek comments from any of the committee members after Matlin submits his recommendation. In the process, Matlin may have ignored a more popular candidate of a key member or members of the advisory committee. but with the formal backdoor, Bley-Vroman can simply reject Matlin’s recommendation on the basis of the “committee’s” more popular choice. So the establishment of a formal committee simply is a tool to neuter the AD’s choice, if the option is exercised, to substantiate the chancellor’s ultimate decision. Did I get it right?
Great win for Rainbow Warriors. Exciting game, worth getting up to watch. Need to improve free throw shooting. Fans sounded loud over the tv. Enjoyed Kanoa’s broadcast. Goodnight from Lynnwood, WA
I have no doubt there are businesses that use advisory committee for the very purpose to advise the person doing the hiring. However, I don’t think that is what UH uses committee’s for that intent.
Matlin will soon learn if he hasn’t already, he is a figure head, a puppet. There are too many ego driven people in UH admin and also behind the scene people ready to place their opinions into the mix. If something goes wrong, Matlin will be the fall guy or scapegoat.
129, yep, you said it correctly, he is their scapegoat. I thought maybe the hiring process might have changed. With the advisory committee set up in place, this is the same process with a different name to it.
Here is the list of 21 Seniors from the Hawaii roster. I think 8 or 9 of them are in the current 1’s and 2’s rotation. And only 1 is a WR, 1 QB that lost his starting job. Huge losses with 4 LB that were in the 1’s and 2’s rotation. Lose 2 OL that were in the 1’s and 2’s. Losing 4 year starters Nequan Phillips and Marrel Jackson in the secondary is going to leave some big shoes and game experience to fill. I don’t see any D lineman graduating this year.
But looking at the next years potential roster just based off of returning players not including recruits, transfers or unexpected medical/hardship redshirts or greyshirts. Hawaii returns a lot of players on the depth chart with live game reps next season. I hope the WR’s Corps which is only losing 1 WR with game reps can figure out how to catch a pass.
I bet June Jones or Dino Babers could work some magic with a deep young depth chart that has valuable live game reps.
Am I mistaking or wasn’t Ikaika Woolsey recruited by the previous catching staff to be a QB for the run-n-shoot offense?
1. Ne’Quan Phillips DB 5-9 190 Sr. Miami, Fla. / Southridge HS
3 Simon Poti LB 6-0 235 Sr. Fullerton, Calif. / Fullerton College
5 Quinton Pedroza WR 6-2 215 Sr. Chino, Calif. / Utah
8 Julian Gener LB 5-11 225 Sr. West Covina, Calif. / Mt. San Antonio
10 Marrell Jackson DB 6-0 200 Sr. Miramar, Fla. / Miramar HS
13 Max Wittek QB 6-4 240 Sr. Norwalk, Conn. / USC
17 Lance Williams LB 6-0 230 Sr. Honolulu, O`ahu / Farrington HS
20 Peeress Joas RB 5-6 180 Sr. Plano, Texas / Liberty HS
25 Dominique Small RB 5-10 190 Sr. Lakewood, Calif. / Cerritos College
30 Gaetano DeMattei DB 5-8 175 Sr. Rio Vista, Calif. / Diablo Valley College
35 Joshua Donovan DB 6-0 210 Sr. Honolulu, O`ahu / Mid-Pacific Institute
36 Benetton Fonua LB 6-0 235 Sr. Kahuku, O‘ahu / Kahuku HS
60 Brian Hittner LS 6-1 200 Sr. Anaheim Hills, Calif. / Saddleback College
71 Ben Clarke OL 6-3 295 Sr. Littleton, Colo. / Chatfield HS
87 Harold Moleni TE 6-2 235 Sr. West Valley City Utah/ Hunter HS 89 Ryan Pasoquen WR 6-0 195 R-Sr. Wahiawa, O‘ahu / Leilehua HS 49 Mauro Bondi PK 6-0 210 R-Sr. Boca Raton, Fla. / Nebraska 34 Jason Muraoka RB 5-7 190 R-Sr. Honolulu, O‘ahu / Franklin (Ind.) 28 Duke Bukoski WR 6-0 205 R-Sr. Honolulu, O‘ahu / Idaho State 69 Brenden Urban OL 6-1 305 R-Sr. Littleton, Colo. / Adams State 42 Justin Vele FB/TE 6-0 240 R-Sr. Honolulu, O‘ahu / Farrington HS
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