Reality shows

Two questions to ask when a Kardashian proposes:

• Why me?

• Why now?

The same skepticism should apply when a non-AQ football program, even one as successful as Boise State,  is asked to join a BCS conference.

Boise State, Nevada and Fresno State saved the Mountain West Conference by transferring from the WAC. And now Boise State, Air Force and SMU are among six non-AQ football teams invited to help save the Big East’s AQ status.

TCU and SMU share the same television market, but SMU wasn’t asked along when the Big East invited TCU. Now that TCU isn’t going there, shouldn’t SMU ask: Why me? Why now?

Same for Boise State, which wasn’t on the MWC’s to-do list for years, despite the Broncos’ insistence how that league made more geographical — and financial — sense. And while the Broncos have been a dominant football team under Chris Petersen, one of the country’s brightest head coaches, what would they have to offer should  he leave? Boise is not a recruiting hotbed (six players born in Idaho were on NFL rosters in 2010), and it has a relatively small television market (112th) and stadium (seating capacity of 34,104, although there are expansion plans in the works).

One other lesson from reality TV: Marriages and divorces occur at rapid paces.

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I don’t know anything about marketing, but this is what I would do for Saturday’s military appreciation night:

• Drop off 1,000 T-shirts at each base (with coupons for beer discounts). Each shirt serves as the ticket. Even if they don’t go, they’ll still be walking around town with “Warriors for Warriors” shirts.

• Get the military bands to serve as the marching band. C’mon, we know the military knows how to march.

• Parachute in the coin used for the toss.

• Get a drill sergeant to work the mic during the pre-game. It would be kind of cool if he could order the fans to stand at attention during the national anthem.

• Get Under Armour to provide camouflage-patterned uniforms. Since they have military nights every year, the uniforms can be re-used. Or better yet, auction off the game-worn jerseys, with proceeds going to a charity. Can’t put a price on goodwill. (Think Boise State’s blue jerseys used to be an advantage. Imagine Utah State’s freshman quarterback throwing into a camouflaged defensive secondary.)

• Bring back the cannon.


  1. Klo November 2, 2011 12:21 am


  2. ai-eee-soos November 2, 2011 12:22 am


  3. Stephen Tsai November 2, 2011 12:26 am

    Up early or up late?

  4. al November 2, 2011 12:27 am

    to answer that first scenario…really?

    most would reply, “when?”

  5. al November 2, 2011 12:28 am

    hey, st….psssst.

    i’ve got two packages of red strawberry whips stuffed with cream waiting for ya.

  6. Stephen Tsai November 2, 2011 12:29 am

    Thanks, Al.

    We’ll get together soon.

  7. J November 2, 2011 12:33 am

    We playing Uno?

  8. Stephen Tsai November 2, 2011 12:33 am

    I just don’t get all of this conference shifting.

    I think geographical rivalries make more sense than budgetary ones.

    For instance, why would Texas A&M go to the SEC? Sure, it will get more TV money. But A&M already has more money than it needs. And now it opens the way for SEC schools to recruit in Texas. With the move, A&M will end up being Indiana. I’m all for the big-fish-little-pond model.

  9. Stephen Tsai November 2, 2011 12:35 am

    I think Uno should be required for boxers. Great quick-hand training.

  10. al November 2, 2011 12:38 am

    so who’s next up in the mwc?

  11. Stephen Tsai November 2, 2011 12:41 am

    It probably will have to add two teams. I’m guessing San Jose State and Utah State?

  12. ai-eee-soos November 2, 2011 12:43 am

    ST: Can you find out who were blocking during winning FG kick ?

    I’m wondering if it was a “patchwork” line, as Coach Mack said that there were

    a lot of injuries during the game to Laurel, Leonard, Sapolu, Chauncey.

    It was an outstanding job in providing just enough time to get the kick on the way.

    Somebody in the middle got blasted backward, but was able to hold off his man.

    After the kick, I thought I saw a no. 51 which is G. Hanohano. In an SA photo, it

    showed a no. 97.

    I think it would be an interesting item to the readers, if you could provide this lineup.


  13. Stephen Tsai November 2, 2011 12:48 am

    For sure, the middle guys were LG Andrew Faaumu, LS Luke Ingram and RG David Lefotu.

    No. 97, Alasi Toilolo was the right wing blocker (aligned sort of like a slotback).

    I’ll check on the tackles after today’s practice.

  14. al November 2, 2011 12:53 am

    yah, i’m thinking sjsu and utah st as well.

    now, should sjsu get in, will they still be habut with the warriors for defecting?

  15. ai-eee-soos November 2, 2011 12:53 am

    ST: Get the left wing blocker, too. Thanks.

  16. al November 2, 2011 12:56 am

    now if we can just realize that if the opportunity should arise again we won’t take the last critical timeout to make such a foolish decision to pooch kick it when all it would take is one fg to lose.

  17. al November 2, 2011 12:57 am

    i am sure that every member on the pat/fg special team has enough pride to make sure that they get the job done.

  18. Stephen Tsai November 2, 2011 12:59 am

    I just looked at the video, and I can’t tell who the left tackle is. It actually looks like it could be Kaniela Tuipuloto there.

    Anyway, here goes (from left to right): Tavita Woodard, Jordan Loeffler, Mystery guy, Andrew Faaumu, Luke Ingram, Dave Lefotu, Matagisila Lefiti, Geordon Hanohano and Alasi Toilolo.

  19. al November 2, 2011 1:04 am

    i think that na koa should purchase a new ice bath and place it in front of our qb’s locker.

    we should have been taking a count on the number of sacks, hurries, and hits on the qb this season. i’ll bet moniz would break somebody’s record.

    something tells me that the oline will have their best game of the year this saturday. just the pride factor alone, what with playing in front of the home crowd will stir enough adrenalin in their bones to come up with, finally, a good game as a unit.

    i believe that the final drive last week made them believe that they can get the job done.

    you might want to bet part of the house this saturday.

  20. Stephen Tsai November 2, 2011 1:04 am

    I used to be good at reading upside-down. I’ve lost that ability. I actually had to turn my laptop upside-down to try to read numbers.

  21. al November 2, 2011 1:05 am

    sadly, i predict that we’ll also have one of our poorest turnouts this saturday as well.

  22. al November 2, 2011 1:06 am

    so is tavita woodard the “hot” receiver?

  23. Stephen Tsai November 2, 2011 1:09 am

    No. At this point, UH is just trying to protect. Woodard is good at that because he has long arms. He can easily repel a guy off the edge. Guys coming off the edge usually are quick and lean. Well, except for Niko Noga, who was quick but not lean.

  24. Stephen Tsai November 2, 2011 1:12 am

    No, turnout won’t be great. But that goes back to marketing.

    I don’t care what the record is or how a team is playing. It’s football, and there are only four home games left. If you can’t market that, that’s pretty sad.

  25. al November 2, 2011 1:37 am

    oh, i thought that the marketing department was defunct or is it devoid of?

  26. wafan November 2, 2011 2:23 am

    Merry Hump Day!

  27. wafan November 2, 2011 2:24 am

    UH has a marketing department?

  28. wafan November 2, 2011 2:27 am

    If they do, it really dysfunctional at best.

    They should ask the marketing teachers for some ideas. Why not ask some of their business partners for some ideas, too. Heck, if they’re too lazy or proud have them read the blog.

  29. Pride. November 2, 2011 2:50 am

    Haloween is done. Christmas trees will soon be here. Time for good times and good cheer.


  30. wafan November 2, 2011 2:59 am

    First mountain snow advisory of the season.

    27-degrees outside my door. Dang, gotta scrape the frozen leaves from my windshield.

  31. Pride. November 2, 2011 3:01 am


    Colt Brennan – 359/510/17/38 (Comp./Att./Int./TD) 159.8 QB rating.


    Bryant Moniz – 218/347/5/20 (Comp./Att./Int./TD) 139.1 QB rating

    Moniz’ 5 interceptions and 20 touchdowns is a great stat, actually it’s awesome. That’s 1 int, per 69.4 attempts. Mighty impressive next to Colt Brennan’s 1 interception per 30 attempts ratio. Most Hawaii fans will not believe that Moniz is as good as Brennan, but Moniz in my book is still a very good QB. Moniz should be in the same conversation.

  32. Pride. November 2, 2011 3:02 am

    #31 – Merry Christmas Wafan.

  33. wafan November 2, 2011 3:09 am

    And to you also, big guy!

    Tree harvesting should be just about starting . . . for the Hawai’i market. Hope you are not allergic to pine trees.

  34. Pride. November 2, 2011 3:22 am

    We usually get them a week before Thanksgiving. Neighbor island trees come in first. Honolulu trees start coming in the weekend of Thanksgiving. Fun, fun, fun.

  35. Garret November 2, 2011 3:37 am

    And while the Broncos have been a dominant football team under Chris Petersen, one of the country’s brightest head coaches, what would they have to offer should he leave? Boise is not a recruiting hotbed (six players born in Idaho were on NFL rosters in 2010), and it has a relatively small television market (112th) and stadium (seating capacity of 34,104, although there are expansion plans in the works).


    You have actually provided some of the MAJOR reasons why Boise State should leave the MWC for the Big East. Boise State said that they want the extra money from the Big East to fund their stadium expansion–unlike UH, they do not get a penny from tax dollars for stadium upgrades and maintenance.

    Does Boise State have a better chance holding on to Chris Petersen when they are in the MWC or the Big East? Petersen talks extensively about the importance of being on ESPN…the MWC is not on ESPN. Petersen deserves a bigger contract…Boise State will get more money in the Big East.

    Most importantly, if Boise State declines *after* joining the Big East, they won’t be kicked out and they can cash the big checks. If Boise State declines while still in the MWC, no other conference will want them and their budget problems will have them looking like Wyoming or New Mexico.

  36. Garret November 2, 2011 3:37 am

    I’ve been predicting SJSU and Utah State for weeks now.

  37. Pride. November 2, 2011 3:46 am

    #37 – I’ve always said that you are one of the smartest guys I know. Or don’t know. Or know on the blog. You know what I mean. You know?

  38. Garret November 2, 2011 3:46 am

    For instance, why would Texas A&M go to the SEC? Sure, it will get more TV money. But A&M already has more money than it needs. And now it opens the way for SEC schools to recruit in Texas. With the move, A&M will end up being Indiana. I’m all for the big-fish-little-pond model.


    Texas A&M is actually the worst example you could have picked. Texas A&M’s Athletic Department had to take out a $16 mil loan and they had been given a short time period to pay it back or they were going to have sports automatically cut from their Athletic Department. That made their AD desperate for money.

    Desperation for money made Texas A&M push for conference change. Desperation for money made Texas A&M take the exit fees from Nebraska and Colorado last year that were supposed to have gone to Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, etc. The Big 12 schools that were worried about being left behind offered their share of the exit fees to Texas, Oklahoma, and Texas A&M…but only Texas A&M took it.

    Desperation for money made Texas A&M look to jump to the SEC right away, to get the increased TV money right away. The Big 12 will get a HUGE jump in TV money when their main TV contract is up in 2015-2016. But Texas A&M couldn’t wait that long because the axe was hanging over their Athletic Department now.

    Just because a school is in a big conference does NOT mean they know how to manage their money. At the same period of time that Texas A&M borrowed $16 mil to run their Athletic Department day-to-day, Texas was giving $40 mil in Athletic Department money to their Upper Campus. The Upper Campus for Texas is actually making more money from the Longhorn Network than Texas’ Athletic Department…one reason why the upper management at Texas refuses to give up the Longhorn Network.

  39. Garret November 2, 2011 3:51 am


    I’m just following the money. Boise State and Texas A&M are good examples of what happens when you follow the money.

    Following the money also explains why UH agreed to travel subsidies in the MWC and Big West. I’m not sure if the +/- of travel subsidies still works out if BSU and Air Force leaves and SJSU and Utah State joins…JD has the full picture and I trust him to make the right decision for UH.

    Following the money will also explain why SJSU and Utah State will accept MWC invitations the second they are offered. That would also eliminate the WAC option for UH, which means that the MWC will use their leverage to force UH to pay travel subsidies to SJSU and Utah State…and probably even CUSA teams during those cross-over games that I don’t think TV cares about. Some TV network is going to pay extra to show Rice-Wyoming.

  40. Pride. November 2, 2011 3:57 am

    #42 – Garret. Change of subject. Do think that there’s any possibility that Hawaii could embrace and be a leader in the utilization of algae to biofuels technology? Is it possible? Feasible? Doable? Recommended? or not even viable?

  41. Garret November 2, 2011 4:42 am


    Yes, I think that there is that possibility. In fact, that is one of the industries where Hawaii has an advantage that could result in a profitable green industry. Some of that research is actually being done in Hawaii now, and with a few key pieces (location for the research at a reasonable price, UH professor/student involvement, VC money targeted for a Hawaii-based location), it would be a job and tax generator for Hawaii.

    I believe that it is viable. I know first-hand that the Legislature wants green energy jobs in Hawaii. There is actually a way to provide a perfect location for that work that will not require a single penny of tax money, instead the state would make money on the deal. If the right people listen (this process has already started), it could happen.

  42. Pride. November 2, 2011 4:53 am

    So there are five games left this season. According to the Sagarin ranking the remaining teams are as follows.

    Utah State – 102

    Nevada – 48

    Fresno State – 98

    Tulane – 178

    BYU – 55

    Hawaii – 80

    If one were to go strictly by the Sagarin Rankings, then Hawaii will end up with an 8 and 5 record with a date in the Hawaii Bowl. Wins over Utah St., Fresno State, and Tulane. Losses to Nevada and BYU.

    In a total of 49 games, Coach Mack has played teams with a ranking of 70 or better 16 times. Mack has beaten two of those teams. Navy(38) in 2009, and Nevada(16) in 2010. So Mack is 2 of 16 against teams ranked 70 or better since he became the head coach in 2008. BYU is always a toss up but, Hawaii has the home field advantage. With all that said, there are strong possibilities that Hawaii could win the rest of the way.

    In those 49 games since Mack has been the head coach, he has faced teams with a 71 or worse ranking 33 times. In 33 games, Mack has lost to 7 teams. Included in that count are the two games this season to UNLV(148) and Idaho(99). A 7 to 33 ratio gives Hawaii a 20% chance of losing to Utah State(102), Fresno State(98), or Tulane(178). The only way Hawaii loses those types of games in my opinion is because of turnovers, which will not happen.

    My money is on Hawaii going the distance and winning the rest of the games. Nevada and BYU games are both winnable games if the Hawaii offense can take care of the football and keep it off of the carpet. Moniz’ interception ratio is awesome so he needs to continue that trend. Moniz and Co. need to eliminate the fumbles, and they will be alright. Special teams will be okay. Defense is always solid.

  43. Pride. November 2, 2011 4:54 am

    #43 Thanks Garret. That’s awesome news for us.

  44. WarriorNY November 2, 2011 5:03 am


    I hate to say it but Moniz can’t be in the same conversation as Brennan… Brennan was 23-4 in his junior and senior seasons. His 2006 season numbers are incredible. Don’t get me wrong Mo is a very good QB but you can’t compare him to one of the best QBs in NCAA history…. We were just spoiled by having a great QB in Brennan. Can we just stop comparing the two?

    REALIGNMENT – This reminds me of the wall street greed that caused the collapse of 2008. The rich get richer; the poor get screwed. Actually, it reminds me of all Republican philosophies.

  45. Old School Dave November 2, 2011 5:31 am

    Still marvel, somewhat, at what Boise State has accomplished the past few decades. Remember them as Boise JC, when a lot of local boys played up there, and then as the dominant team in the Big Sky (Chester Grey, Blessing Bird, Ron Autele, etc.). They moved to I-A in the mid-90s if memory serves me correctly.

  46. d1shima November 2, 2011 5:37 am

    Great Morning All!

    Kwestion a Kardashian? Hmmm…

  47. CoolEthan November 2, 2011 5:39 am

    Would a chosen one, few, or many from the military be interested in performing the national anthem?

    This is still my favorite.

    Is there a requested fly-over?

  48. d1shima November 2, 2011 5:41 am


    Not so fast, my friend! I would guess that Dan Robinson’s numbers for sacks, hurries and hits would easily eclipse either CB or QB1. Talk about takin’ a lickin’ and keep on tickin’!

  49. Tangomike November 2, 2011 5:43 am

    Any word on recruits. Thought coach Mac or someone said some were close to commiting a couple of weeks ago

  50. Old School Dave November 2, 2011 5:43 am

    Is Colt Brennan looking to get into coaching? Perhaps a GA position somewhere?

  51. d1shima November 2, 2011 5:45 am


    btw, Ma said Hi! 😉

  52. whitey November 2, 2011 5:49 am

    good morning tsaikos.

  53. d1shima November 2, 2011 5:50 am

    Ten an Chree, baby. Still can!



  54. d1shima November 2, 2011 5:51 am

    Howzit whitey!

    Hope you doing good. How’s duffer and the kid?

  55. Old School Dave November 2, 2011 5:53 am

    Why doesn’t UH build an electronic message board at locations such as University and Dole, and on East West Road on campus? Sad to see the UH admin give in to pressure from a small anti-APEC group on campus. Should have sent out Rockne Freitas to slap some sense into these people. Would love to see those UH professors protesting against APEC to give up their positions, come down from the Ivory Tower, and go do some good for the “betterment of society” instead running off at the mouth.

    Ah, need to get some decaf.

  56. whitey November 2, 2011 5:54 am

    “to get richer”, great words and i think that is why my parents sent me to college. if not, they would have sent me to live in europe or russia where the govt going give me money.

  57. whitey November 2, 2011 5:55 am

    d1, you up bright and early. duff and da kid are doing great. da kid takes his sat this sat, so no can come to tg/game with the gang.

  58. whitey November 2, 2011 5:56 am

    one party makes the rich, richer and the other party makes the poor, desperate.

  59. whitey November 2, 2011 5:59 am

    marketing at uh????? don’t they have a business school??? if not, they should make HPU an associate, so they can take advantage of learning how to market uh and it’s programs.

  60. A-joe November 2, 2011 5:59 am

    44. Pride

    Good overview of Hawaii’s remaining season. I have the utmost faith in Hawaii’s chances.

    BTW- A reminder of a point you brought up before- when the media does the ceremonial shaking of the trees on the white sheets to determine if bugs have come in with a shipment, please remind them to not only look down at whats fallen but, look up at what’s flying away. =)

  61. Pride. November 2, 2011 6:05 am

    #60 – Good Idea A-Joe.

  62. bigislandkurt November 2, 2011 6:07 am

    Didn’t Boise’s Coach Pete just sign a major contract extension? He won’t be going anywhere for a while. At least ’till 2016, where he will be making upwards of 2 million per season.


  63. Annoddah Dave November 2, 2011 6:07 am

    ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs:

    wafan #27 – I think John McNamara is in charge of marketing at UH Athletic Dept.

  64. bigislandkurt November 2, 2011 6:07 am

    Why don’t UH just outsource marketing to some private company who can do a better job? (early morning rhetorical question).


  65. Annoddah Dave November 2, 2011 6:09 am

    ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs:

    Wait! wafan #27. I just realized you were being facetious. Good shot!

  66. Last Call November 2, 2011 6:11 am

    We all witnessed how Boise State literally begged the MWC to take them and now they’re too good for the MWC..Good riddance BSU.

  67. Garret November 2, 2011 6:14 am

    UTEP’s AD talked about how CUSA is losing SMU, Houston, and UCF, how CUSA is still going ahead with the MWC/CUSA alliance, and how CUSA may look to add 1 team and stop at 10 members.

    “When you have a conference with anywhere from 18 to 24 teams, if you lose a few it’s not a crisis,” UTEP athletic director Bob Stull said. “There’s more stability. It’s not like if you have eight teams and lose three.

    “We could stay at nine (in the current C-USA); we could add one and go to 10 if we wanted to.”

    Stull said C-USA has a list of at least 10 universities it would consider adding, including schools from the Mid-American Conference, Sun Belt (Florida International would keep C-USA in the Florida market) and Western Athletic Conference (Louisiana Tech is a logical fit).

  68. Shoko November 2, 2011 6:16 am

    Interesting that some people are tweeting that Boise State’s invitation to the Big East is in the mail. Who are these people!

    Morning! 😉

  69. Pride. November 2, 2011 6:16 am

    #64 – I know a good company called “A-Joe, G-Itchy, & Tsai”. No it is not a law firm. They are an expert marketing company. They are all UH alumni so might actually work for peanuts, or maybe lunch.

  70. Garret November 2, 2011 6:18 am

    Note that if CUSA isn’t planning on going to 12 schools, that indicates that the plan to have the winners of the CUSA and MWC championship games play a game for a BCS spot is over. CUSA could add 1 school and the MWC could add 2 schools so that both have 10, then the regular season winners of each conference could play a MWC/CUSA title game.

    Trouble is, I seriously doubt that would be a game for an automatic BCS spot (especially since the SEC and Big 10 are talking about getting 3 teams in BCS bowls), but it will at least generate some money. That would take up the final week of the season, so unless they change something with the Hawaii Exemption, UH would have to play the first 13 weeks of the season with no bye weeks, with the title game on week 14.

  71. Garret November 2, 2011 6:19 am

    Got to get to work now…I don’t think I even had time to post yesterday so it was nice to take a break.

  72. jm2375 November 2, 2011 6:46 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Happy Hump Day!!

    Old School – #55 – there was a board (traffic sign kind) up at Univ & Dole for the 1st 2 wks of school listing the on-campus games (not football), but then they took it down. I’d love to see something like the one at Blaisdell permanently at that intersection. The only other one I know of at UH is at the entrance to Lower Campus on Dole St.

    I bet the profs protesting APEC were the same ones protesting the Navy (?) research contracts a few years ago. Do they not know where the “indirect” monies from those contracts go?

  73. Stretch November 2, 2011 6:46 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!


    November 2nd, 2011 at 6:16 am

    #64 – I know a good company called “A-Joe, G-Itchy, & Tsai”. No it is not a law firm. They are an expert marketing company. They are all UH alumni so might actually work for peanuts, or maybe lunch.

    You trying to say we are elephants??

  74. whitey November 2, 2011 6:52 am

    logic says you check the incoming xmas trees on the mainland for insects, disease, or unwanted animals, but due to “mental lapse” or stup_______, bring it to hawaii and release it here. most famous excuse is that we don’t have the money to send personnel to check these shipments on the mainland, but will get the money to control the pests after they arrive here. you got to love this logic.

  75. whitey November 2, 2011 6:53 am

    strech, pretty close!! hahahahahahaaa

  76. ya_think November 2, 2011 7:11 am

    #63 – There-in lies the problem…..

  77. Pomai November 2, 2011 7:13 am

    UH vs USU

    3    –    2    Couch potato

    20    –    17    Bowwar

    20    –    17    Ipu Man

    27    –    35    anklebiters

    34    –    26    longdistance808

    38    –    14    wafan

    38    –    22    Pomai

    42    –    21    DPK

    42    –    28    krump1

    45    –    31    Glenn

    49    –    14    Tchanhng

    50    –    00    AlaWai

    59    –    28    d1shima

    59    –    38    masatoshi-san

  78. Da Punchbowl Kid November 2, 2011 7:19 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂

    Elephants are very noble creatures.

  79. A.M. November 2, 2011 7:31 am

    Your military appreciation ideas sound great, ST (except I’d substitute something else in your beer idea)! UH should consider you as a hire . . . (Of course, you’d still have to keep the Warrior Beat going.)

  80. RedZone November 2, 2011 7:36 am

    ST I think that the mystery blocker was Chauncey Winchester-Makainai. I don’t know why but Leonard was replaced by Hanohano for the last field goal. Maybe injury?

  81. PolyMom November 2, 2011 7:49 am

    Steven Tsai writes…I just don’t get all of this conference shifting.

    I think geographical rivalries make more sense than budgetary ones.

    For instance, why would Texas A&M go to the SEC? Sure, it will get more TV money. But A&M already has more money than it needs. And now it opens the way for SEC schools to recruit in Texas. With the move, A&M will end up being Indiana. I’m all for the big-fish-little-pond model.

    WOW I can not believe I am reading this? The SEC is still the best conference in the nation. Texas was ready to bolt to the PAC 12 when they were thinking about making it the PAC 16. Where would that have left Texas A&M? Oh please, we are HAPPY Texas A&M is going to play in the BEST conference in America.

    Let’s see if Texas A&M ends up like Indiana? Someone might be eating their words!!!! GO AGGIES! Thought this was a Hawaii thread. Not a bashing Texas A&M thread!

  82. chawan_cut November 2, 2011 7:53 am

    I agree to everything ST just posted today.

    does anyone know what replaced the cannon? anyone? its the conch shell blowers video on the jumbotron.

    how many of you knew there were conch shell blowers on the jumbotron???


    and boise is only as good as coach peterson. he’s the reason they were good under hawkins and has been the consistent factor all these years. once he’s gone, they’re irrelevant.

  83. Kevin November 2, 2011 7:56 am

    Market all you want, it doesn’t matter what us 19,000+ season ticket holders think, we’ll be there anyway.

    Our record and opponent speaks volumes to the other 13-15K that usually don’t show up.

    Watch the attendance SPIKE for BYU.

    Win and they’ll come and no amount of mass marketing will make enough of an imprint to even make a significant turnout for this Saturday.

  84. CoolEthan November 2, 2011 7:56 am

    So how did the cannon end up exiting the games?

    Yes, bring it on. Adds that x’tra oomph ( tabasco) to a score.

    And you can’t be penalized for a jubilous, detonation celebration!

  85. Kevin November 2, 2011 7:58 am


    If you listen carefully and expect it then yeah.


    But I think too many people were calling that Aloha Stadium hotline complaining about how loud it was.

  86. CoolEthan November 2, 2011 7:58 am

    The best marketing too?

    High Scoring Offense

    Hard Hitting Defense

    Fast and Furious Special Teams

  87. CoolEthan November 2, 2011 7:59 am

    Tool, not too.

  88. CoolEthan November 2, 2011 8:01 am

    Cannon too loud for the neighbors?

    Was it shaking their bowl of saimin noodles at dinner time?


    reminds me of that commercial with the japanese boy/family playing his electric guitar, and the father pulls the plug while eating dinner.

  89. Stretch November 2, 2011 8:01 am

    CC – speaking of canons made me think of something else. Since we will NOT be in the WAC with our favorite commissioner, does that mean that we will see the balloons at the basketball games again next season??

  90. Derek November 2, 2011 8:08 am

    Maybe UH has come commitments, but they are not announcing it because other teams might start to do some poaching. After we lost a couple of prospects late in the recruiting process to other teams like UW and UCLA I think the coaches got smart by witholding any commitments, especially local prospects. We also lost Iuta Tepa from Long Beach Poly to UCLA very late when he made an early commitment to us. Still looking for the Holy Grail.

  91. Kevin November 2, 2011 8:11 am

    Chawan, I say you got the green light with the balloons again in the BWC. Just do it until someone says something.

  92. Couch potato November 2, 2011 8:12 am

    the african elephant has bigger…ears, than the asian elephant.

  93. Pomai November 2, 2011 8:15 am

    Marketing – Here again people are afraid to think outside the box. Why do you think all of the big corporations use marketing plans, sure we already know McD’s are there but yet they still market themselves. But what ever!!!!!!!

  94. Kevin November 2, 2011 8:18 am

    Regarding the people that don’t show up to the stadium or UH games unless there is a SPECIAL circumstance like a Hawaii Five O TV filming or a Sugar Bowl season game nationally televised against a top 20 opponent and UH is undefeated…

    There was a skit on “Family Guy” that poked fun of stereotypical Asian families.

    Scene is boy sitting in his room doing his homework.

    Father opens the door.

    Father: YOU DOCTOR YET?

    Son: Dad, Im only 8.

    Father: TALK TO ME WHEN YOU DOCTOR!!!!!!!!!

    Father slams the door shut.

  95. Kevin November 2, 2011 8:22 am

    You can’t think outside the box when you can’t even do little things correctly FIRST.

    I mean you can go ahead and think outside the box while NOT doing little things correctly too if that matters…

  96. Dan-O November 2, 2011 8:28 am

    Brennan v.s. Moniz…..the question is, could Colt put up the same or better numbers with the offensive line, running back and receivers that Moniz now has?

    I can only imagine that Moniz’s numbers would be quite different if he had Nate in the backfield, Estes and Satele on the line….and Bess, Grice-Mullen, Rivers and Hawthorne as receivers.

  97. Couch potato November 2, 2011 8:31 am

    could Colt take the pounding Moniz has taken?

    no use compare, different personnel, different scenarios, just play the game the best you can.

  98. Kevin November 2, 2011 8:32 am


    Yards after the catch meant EVERYTHING to Brennan 06-07 and Moniz 2010.

  99. A-joe November 2, 2011 8:35 am

    Wasn’t there a whole discussion a few years back on this blog about the expense of purchasing shells and their transfer to islands? The bottom line was expensive? Chawan, was you guys eh?

    Someone should construct giant Taiko drums and massive Gongs and mount them in the spaces covered by the Hawaiian Airlines banners.

    Install a better sound system that takes advantage of the empty corridor underneath the stadium structure to give it a deeper bass sound.

    Pipe the UH band over the sound system. Fresno does it. Works well.

    Teach everyone the cheers and dances the UH band already does.

  100. Old School Dave November 2, 2011 8:35 am

    Regarding increasing attendance for UH games, this has probably been mentioned before, but how about lowering the price of seats say after the game has started? Something like a flat rate of $20 for sideline and $15 for end zone seats. An extra $15 or $20 multiplied by 3,000 – 4,000 okoles is still extra revenue.

  101. LizKauai November 2, 2011 8:37 am

    Wonderful observations and suggestions, ST!

  102. LizKauai November 2, 2011 8:38 am


    28-21 LizKauai

  103. tommui November 2, 2011 8:39 am

    PRIDE #42 – well, I won’t bet the farm on it – if I had a farm – but when Pride talks, I listen!


  104. Bryson November 2, 2011 8:39 am

    Last thing we need in the stadium are more drunk people…especially military you get a bunch of those just turned 21 guys who don’t know when to say when and all hells gonna break loose…

  105. Bryson November 2, 2011 8:41 am

    I think we need to Hold an Occupy Manoa event to get Mack and Gib’s contracts done

  106. tommui November 2, 2011 8:42 am

    TANGOMIKE #49 – recruits? Only the coaching staff and AL would know.

  107. Kevin November 2, 2011 8:45 am



    Those extra speakers from before were about as effective as garnishing a turd with a plumeria.

    They need concert-style speakers in there.

  108. Bugaz November 2, 2011 9:03 am


    Theres a bad stereotype! I welcome all drunks, local and military, to come and share in a wonderful experience at Aloha Stadium this Saturday. The more the better! Just don’t fight 😉

  109. papajoe2 November 2, 2011 9:04 am

    I don’t remember when it was, but a few years ago, the UH quarterbacks got sacked a whole bunch of times in a season. I think it was the most in a season that year in the NCAA, maybe even a record. Does anybody recall how many times the UH qb got sacked and what year it was and who was the qbs? Granted, a lot of teams don’t throw as much as UH does, so cannot come close to the amount of sacks that UH allows. I bring this up because of the comments of all the hits that Moniz is getting.

  110. d1shima November 2, 2011 9:05 am

    Teach everyone the cheers and dances the UH band already does.

    Poho….unless the Mascot going stop doing his own thing with the crowd while the band is playing.

  111. WarriorNY November 2, 2011 9:08 am



    I remember last year our D dominated the game. Hopefully we can get another effort like that.

  112. Kevin November 2, 2011 9:16 am

    I don’t think there is really such a thing as a bad stereotype.

    While it’s hard for some to admit, stereotypes aren’t made up out of thin air.

  113. haroldwah November 2, 2011 9:19 am

    109 Papajoe2: I believe that quarterback was Greg Alexander

  114. WarriorNY November 2, 2011 9:26 am

    ESPN blog mentions increased role for Salas…

  115. CoolEthan November 2, 2011 9:29 am


    Any military who is of age to have a beer in public, or any other type of drink, has earned it by commiting to serve and protect and our country.

    regarding how much they, is up to them. If they break the law with disorder and abuse, then they should pay the consequence, like everyone else.

  116. SteveM November 2, 2011 9:30 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Is there a difference between “marketing” and “promotion”?

    Isn’t promotion about losing money in the hopes of making more. 😕

    Yup, UH athletics could use more marketing…. (pride’s #69 above).

  117. haroldwah November 2, 2011 9:31 am

    Papajoe2-2008 Greg Alexander was sacked 32 times

  118. Couch potato November 2, 2011 9:31 am

    unofficial sacks by opponents,

    2010 – 40

    2009 – 36

    2008 – 57

    2007 – 35

    2006 – 28

    2005 – 38

    2004 – 17

  119. LizKauai November 2, 2011 9:34 am

    Speaking of speakers…

    We were sitting above the band at the Sugar Bowl… with a whole section cantilevered below us so they were out of sight. When they started to play, the speakers behind us were so clear and clean that we turned around, expecting to see the band march out! Talk about fantastic sound system!

    Memories… memories…

  120. LizKauai November 2, 2011 9:35 am

    Congrats to Rodney Bradley who has been picked up again by the Ravens.

    Good luck to Mana Silva who was released… (big mistake, imho…)

  121. (Jesse) James November 2, 2011 9:36 am

    Good morning Tsaikos….Hope all is well and everyone has a great day!!!

    Woo Hoo…Can’t wait until Saturday!!!

  122. al November 2, 2011 9:37 am

    d1…i was tempted to mention dan robinson in that same breath. but, i refrained because many of the young uns would not know who dat.

    and you went to tell ma without me?

  123. Couch potato November 2, 2011 9:37 am

    marketing involves promoting.

  124. al November 2, 2011 9:42 am

    bik…truly outsourcing a sports marketing firm is a brilliant idea.

    i wonder how many positions could be eliminated just to fund and facilitate such an effort?

    i know a firm that could step in immediately and replace more than the marketing department/assoc ad position.

    this upstart firm is called jones and steinberg. they could do a terrific job on and off the field.

  125. GrandmaP November 2, 2011 9:46 am

    It is so fustrating watching our away games. i THINK THE REFS HAVE GOT TO GO….We are talking lives here who can be destroyed on one play,,,,I really think that players who purposely go out to hurt another player should be thrown out of the game not continue to stay in so they can keep doing it…I have never seen Hawaii players do that ….they are stopping it in NFL but why wait till then….it should be addressed in every age of the game…

  126. Couch potato November 2, 2011 9:47 am

    how about jones & steinberg do a one time gratis. if all goes well then they have their foot in the door and maybe do future work on some percentage basis.

  127. al November 2, 2011 9:48 am


    i am not sure if i’d hire that firm you mentioned. they would be taking 2-3 hour lunches every day and their productivity levels would also drop after that.

    inspite of increasing the food/bev industry’s bottom line…i am not sure if any work would get done.

  128. al November 2, 2011 9:49 am

    couch potato…did you miss the subliminal message?

  129. chawan_cut November 2, 2011 9:49 am

    i’ll check with the basketball folks and see if we want to revive the brigade. i think that’s whats been missing these last few years, and if the students start to show up again in force, the balloons will just compliment them.

  130. Couch potato November 2, 2011 9:50 am

    you mentioned take over, i’m saying work with them.

  131. madeinhawaii November 2, 2011 9:50 am

    Make sure there are tickets at the ticket booth for Steve McGarret and Company…

  132. Kevin November 2, 2011 9:51 am

    UH athletics can save some pennies by “outsourcing” marketing ideas to the student body that are majoring in such a field.

    Afterall, isn’t the concern centered around creating a new generation of UH fans?

    Bumbai some might get all huhu about ads being too flashy or whatever, but T.S.

  133. Kevin November 2, 2011 9:52 am


    Students will be there. The excitement in basketball is back and now more and more are realizing that they have free access to games.

    They’ll be there. Just bring the balloons. 😎

  134. al November 2, 2011 9:57 am

    yup balloon brigade should return. maybe those powerstick noise makers?

    will it have to get past the nfa person?

  135. kev-1 November 2, 2011 9:59 am

    “Drop off 1,000 T-shirts at each base (with coupons for beer discounts). Each shirt serves as the ticket. Even if they don’t go, they’ll still be walking around town with “Warriors for Warriors” shirts.”

    Come on, that’s all we need is a bunch of drunk soldiers in the stands. How about minus the beer coupons. Sober soldiers welcome.

    ” Get Under Armour to provide camouflage-patterned uniforms. Since they have military nights every year, the uniforms can be re-used. Or better yet, auction off the game-worn jerseys, with proceeds going to a charity. Can’t put a price on goodwill. (Think Boise State’s blue jerseys used to be an advantage. Imagine Utah State’s freshman quarterback throwing into a camouflaged defensive secondary.)”

    +1 . . . I like a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  136. kev-1 November 2, 2011 10:02 am

    #112 Kevin . . . I somewhat agree with that statement, however it should not be forgotten that many stereotypes emanate from hate, racism, etc. BUT, in a lot of cases, stereotypes exist because there are pockets of people in all races, cultures, and societies that epitomize them.

  137. Couch potato November 2, 2011 10:02 am

    they could lace the military beer with estrogen then if something bad happens they’ll either cry or biatch slap each other.

  138. kev-1 November 2, 2011 10:03 am

    #115 . . . of course, but we don’t need to encourage it in excess by providing coupons.

  139. kev-1 November 2, 2011 10:03 am

    #137 . . . LMFAO

  140. Kevin November 2, 2011 10:06 am

    #136. exactly. Sterotypes were never meant to be positive anyway.

  141. kev-1 November 2, 2011 10:08 am

    completely not related to UH, but has anyone else been following what has been going on with Peyton Hillis of the Browns? That guy needs a new agent and better people advising what he does and says.

  142. al November 2, 2011 10:08 am

    alcoholic beverage coupons are against the law.

  143. al November 2, 2011 10:10 am

    124…hmmm. apparently only some of us got the sub-message.

  144. LizKauai November 2, 2011 10:10 am

    UH athletics can save some pennies by “outsourcing” marketing ideas to the student body that are majoring in such a field.

    Good for all parties…

  145. Kevin November 2, 2011 10:15 am

    Under Armour already has a cammo line set up all they would need to do is to add the H logo to them.

    Of course, UH would have to ASK for it.

    Considering the heavy military population in Hawaii, they should get to work on having “military appreciation night” an event in itself. Lots of military families attend UH football games an to a smaller extent, other UH sports. Hell, they sport more UH gear and wear the right UH colors more than locals.

    Adaptation, they are trying to fit in and UH has to take advantage of that and cater to their patronage.

    Take it a step further and perhaps all UH sports should get more involved. UH football might want to think about hosting a spring scrimmage on base. They have fields that are maintained and that would really bring out the military folks.

    UH mens and womens basketball, volleyball, softball, and baseball could hold clinics for military youth on base as well in addition to scrimmages of their own as well.

  146. d1shima November 2, 2011 10:19 am

    Yep. IIRC USMA Cadets used camo unis last year.

  147. LizKauai November 2, 2011 10:20 am

    Love the cammo idea… hey, if they can do pink, why not?

  148. Wes'side Warrior November 2, 2011 10:22 am

    Howzit, everyone!

    Busy day today!

    For years, we’ve been discussing how the various departments at UH could be more directly involved on every level. Is it those Upper Campus Crusties who are against doing anything to help the Athletic Department? I mean, c’mon now! Students would get real life experience on these projects that would actually benefit UH and cut costs big time. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this one out. Professors need to put their petty grudges aside and get these projects moving. Everyone working together will benefit the whole UH, not just the AD.

  149. Couch potato November 2, 2011 10:23 am

    eo na toa

  150. Kevin November 2, 2011 10:25 am


    Go Mustangs.

  151. Couch potato November 2, 2011 10:29 am

    maybe UH researchers can clone a luminescent Colt Brennan to stir up the marketing efforts.

  152. Kevin November 2, 2011 10:29 am

    Wes’side Warrior:

    November 2nd, 2011 at 10:22 am

    Howzit, everyone!

    Busy day today!

    For years, we’ve been discussing how the various departments at UH could be more directly involved on every level. Is it those Upper Campus Crusties who are against doing anything to help the Athletic Department? I mean, c’mon now! Students would get real life experience on these projects that would actually benefit UH and cut costs big time. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this one out. Professors need to put their petty grudges aside and get these projects moving. Everyone working together will benefit the whole UH, not just the AD.

    That could be one possible “bump” in the road.

    Who knows, maybe some upper campus faculty in the areas of marketing may frown upon or be spiteful of having their students spending time assisting the athletic department.

    At this point, nothing can surprise most of us anymore.

    If there is one thing I’ve learned in the past year is that things we used to assume that never got done due to ignorance, laziness, or oversight were in fact attempted but got all wrapped up in red tape.

    AND somethings were oversighted and never considered or attempted.

    So for the most part assumptions on both sides of the coin are up for fair speculation.

  153. Couch potato November 2, 2011 10:29 am

    Kevin, that was for al.



  154. Sean (aka pcwarrior) November 2, 2011 10:49 am


    UH 45 the AG’s 21

  155. 808bowler November 2, 2011 10:49 am

    Love the camouflage jersey idea. That would be cool.

  156. al November 2, 2011 10:51 am

    until today, i never knew it was going to be military appreciation night this saturday.

  157. (Jesse) James November 2, 2011 10:53 am

    Al…Ummm…who is Dan Robinson??? MWAHAHAHAHAHA

  158. al November 2, 2011 10:53 am

    couch potato…and jones has more than two superlative adjectives in his vocabulary.

  159. al November 2, 2011 10:54 am

    j/j…he said he was your nephew. mwahahaha.

  160. (Jesse) James November 2, 2011 10:58 am

    ST…Good ideas.

    Al, I actually talked to some UH peeps about the “thundersticks” and asked why they couldn’t be given out to more people at the stadium or SSC. I mean, the student section gets tons of them from whoever is the sponsor (last year it was Papa Johns) so why not allow them all over the stadium or in the SSC. The answer was, “We’ll check on it.” Never heard about it again. Even when I met those peeps again and asked (again) the answer was, “We’ll check on it.”

    I know some people feel that stuff is annoying but I’m constantly asked by kids at the stadium if they can have the ones I’m carrying….so I usually grab a few extra to give out to others.

    Besides, gramps loves those things.

  161. (Jesse) James November 2, 2011 10:59 am

    Touche al…Touche….MWAHAHAHAHA So, are we seeing you and the lad this Saturday???

  162. Kevin November 2, 2011 11:13 am

    For those interested,

    Softball exhibition game vs Chaminade this FRIDAY night at 6pm and a double header on SATURDAY at 10am, should be pau by 2pm.

    Quick review of alumnae game and what to look forward to:

    -Primary lineup during the alumnae game:

    C- Sharla Kliebenstein

    1st- Kayla Wartner

    2nd- Dara Pagaduan

    3rd- Sarah Robinson

    SS- Jessica Iwata

    LF- Alex Aguirre

    CF- Kelly Majam

    RF-Brynne Buchanan

    DP- Makani Duhaylonsod-Kaleimamahu

    Everyone played in the alumnae game with mass substitutions after every couple of innings and same can be expected for this weekend. HRs belted by sophomore 2nd base Jazmine Zamora, junior Jessica Iwata, and senior 1st base Shannon Lum.

    And senior Stephanie Ricketts and junior Kaia Parnaby did not miss a beat as usual.

    Makani Duhaylonsod-Kaleimamahu and Leisha Liilii did not pitch in the alumnae game, but may see time in the circle this weekend. Liilii is competing at 1st as expected.

  163. 12thMan November 2, 2011 11:14 am

    In what years was the Cannon used?

  164. Kevin November 2, 2011 11:16 am

    Thundersticks don’t appear to be loud from a distance, but in the stadium it’s open air.

    INDOORS will be a different story. I’ve only seen thundersticks in pro indoor arenas like in the NBA and NHL. I don’t think I’ve seen them at college arenas for basketball, even the big schools.

  165. Kevin November 2, 2011 11:17 am

    The cannon was prominent during the Rolo and Timmy Chang days then disappeared afterwards.

    It returned during homecoming 2008 and stayed with us up until this season.

  166. Slugger November 2, 2011 11:28 am

    Good ideas, ST! but I do agree with the No Beer coupons.

    I like the Warriors For Warriors t-shirt idea.

  167. mikey November 2, 2011 11:32 am

    papajoe2: The year was 2003 when 46 sack was recorded between Chang and Whieldon both played all 13 games.

    But I do know that Dan Robinson took all of 32 Sack the first year of JJ. He was one tough QB ever in my book.

    That was also the first year that I met Mouse Davis. He was only other person besides me on the practice field that day. I was conversing with him that I was excited that we’re finally going to have a QB with 3,000 yards and 30 TD; he said think 5,000 yard! I asked for his name. He said, ‘Mouse’… So I said mmmmm so you’re Mighty Mouse. I didn’t know who he was at that time.

    Then after practice I realized I was talking to the ‘Master of Run and Shot’ Mouse Davis. I will never forget that day. And I was wondering why all the coaches except June, were coutinuously looking back at us and not concentrating on the practice at hand.

  168. Pacquiao November 2, 2011 11:33 am

    I say pacquiao stops pacquiao marquez fight him this time around.

  169. d1shima November 2, 2011 11:36 am

    Ackchally, I tink already get choke fans who dress up in camo for the games…

    empty seat camo, that is! 👿

  170. Tyson F. Gautreaux November 2, 2011 11:42 am

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  171. Tyson F. Gautreaux November 2, 2011 11:43 am

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  172. WarriorNY November 2, 2011 11:53 am

    @ 164

    I am pretty sure Thundersticks started with Anaheim Angels when I used to live there.(about ten years ago?) They were effective in that year’s the world series. Anaheim stadium is open but the thing is absolutely everyone in the stadium were using them… They’re probably a little more effective in baseball too.

    Just curious,

    Any progress on Coach Mack’s contract?? We’re falling behind on recruiting. There’s one recruit I hope like hell we can land. WR Darreus Rogers… soft commit to USC. I was reading up this kid and he said in one of his interviews he wanted to play in one of the top passing offenses in the NCAA. He’s also considering Washington, and AZ State. Anyone know when his visit is??? Will Mack be signed by then??? With Salas and Bess both starting in the NFL, I think these WR recruits are going start taking a hard looks at UH.

  173. koakane November 2, 2011 12:03 pm

    jj and al

    BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG GNAB BANG BAND GNAB GNAB eh what happened to the sticks bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  174. A-House November 2, 2011 12:07 pm

    What subliminal message(s)? I read every post, but did not or could not “read” anything into any post – mind is getting weaker by the day!

  175. papajoe2 November 2, 2011 12:08 pm

    #167 mikey, I found that UH qbs got sacked 57 times in 2008. Greg Alexander, Inoke Funaki, and Tyler Graunke were the qbs. So far this year we are at 28 with 5 games to go. No way of counting how many times the qb got hit after he threw the ball or ran the ball. A point that I’m trying to make is, all qbs in this system are subject to take a pounding. They knew it when they came here. I never heard of any of them complainig, at least publicly. They either must find their recievers quicker, release the ball quicker, throw the ball away, run for their life or maybe run out of bounds. The recievers must also get open and quick too. That too could be a problem with the qbs getting sacked. Of course, gotta block.

  176. d1shima November 2, 2011 12:14 pm

    Robinson also had 60 Rush Attempts in 1999.

    As “fleet of foot” as he was, I would count every one of those as a hurry, sack, or hit. Add those to the sack total and it was remarkable that he was able to last the entire season.

    Remember, this was all done with the carry over from a OLine that was part of 0-12.

  177. al November 2, 2011 12:24 pm

    the problem with the cannon is that they had a difficulty finding the “bullets”. i am sure that there are other types of appropriate noise blasters.

    conch shell blaring would be suitable, however, our stadium p.a. is so weak or management won’t turn up the volume. i am sure that i am not alone when i say i can never understand anything that comes out of that system.

    to help draw folks the atmosphere has got to “nuts”.

  178. al November 2, 2011 12:26 pm

    yes, mr. ahouse you have a problem.

  179. al November 2, 2011 12:27 pm

    j/j…sniff, sniff,…i am actually going to miss this game.

  180. Buffoman November 2, 2011 12:28 pm

    When one reads all of the scenarios of the shifting between conferences, the adding and subtracting, one thing is for certain in the whole thing…UH is getting the raw end of the deal with each movement.

    If Benson had just kept his mouth shut and locked up BYU, all of this may have been a moot point. That is probably the example people in the football world would use to show how, “loose lips sink ships” works.

    Well I don’t know how JD will balance his budget, but one thing for certain, we’ll be paying more for a lot less than we anticipated…and there’s really nothing we can do about it.

    How depressing.

  181. A-House November 2, 2011 12:33 pm

    What is the “academic” goal for the University of Hawaii?

    Is it to be like MIT or CIT or the Ivy League schools like Yale and Harvard and Princeton? What makes these schools so renowned at the college level? A particular “school” such as medical or law or engineering or business, etc.

    Is there a “plan” at UH to attain an academic goal? If yes, did it eminate from the BOR? If no, then something is wrong as the BOR sets the goals/objectives and the school President to work to accomplishing this goal. If I was a member of the BOR, the only question I would ask of anyone applying to be UH President is, “this is our goal, how do you intend to accomplish this task?” If the applicant cannot provide a “skeletal’ response/answer, cross off the list immediatley!

    Do we know what the “academic” standards are to qualify for PAC 12 membeship? How does UH medical or law school match up to this? Are there other “schools” that can enhance UH’s academic standing? What about Torpical Ag or Astronomy or Business or Marine science?

    Garret, in past posts, mentioned Federal grant dollars awarded to colleges each year – how well does UH match up with the top 15 schools? What areas at UH can be promoted as being highly competitive? What needs to be done to make them more attractive to those who rank colleges?

    Some universitites have “medical centers” on or near campus. UH does not have one, but can they work on an agreement with local area hospitals to be as competitive as UCLA?

    Research is probably a key component in reaching an academic standard. What areas of research happens at UH? We all know about cloning. What else? Is there where Federal grants go?

    Highly regarded scholars may be another “notch” to consider. Does UH have those individuals who will contribute to gaining academic recognition? What does or how does the UH union contribute to this? Perhaps lack of $$$ to pay such high mucka muckas is currently under funded?

  182. Kekoa November 2, 2011 12:36 pm

    Word on the street is that there is a new updated version of the DPK on the loose.

    Hospital officials warn that he could easily be mistaken for the latest version of the 2011 Bionic Man.

    Be careful out there!

  183. Couch potato November 2, 2011 12:37 pm

    UH is like the last player picked for a team, the person no one wants to take to the prom, no dance partner, lone wolf, runt, outcast, no phone number, kim k,

    i take that back, i’d take kim k.

  184. polywarrior4life November 2, 2011 12:39 pm






  185. WarriorMojo November 2, 2011 12:43 pm

    Re #176

    Does anybody remember who was on the O-Line that year? Not asking for purposes of embarrassment. Just trying to remember.

    I think it was Brian Smith and Dustin Owen at G. I’m almost positive Adrian Klemm and Kaulana Noa were at LT and RT. Was Derek Faavi our C?

    Think that’s it. I’ve convinced myself, but does anybody know for sure?

  186. Buffoman November 2, 2011 12:44 pm


    I’ve seen that kid. That’s the kid who will go to the store buy a ton of candy and go back to the playground. The kid would then “make friends” with those who initially ignored that kid’s existence until the candy was shown. All of a sudden now get “friends”. Once the candy gone, all alone again.

    You right, jes like UH. No more candy (subsidies), no more friends. Got to be like BSU, dominate in football, dominate in basketball…all of a sudden the ugly kid not so ugly. Maybe not going have to buy the candy.

  187. Couch potato November 2, 2011 12:48 pm

    need a 1999 roster?

  188. Bowwar November 2, 2011 12:48 pm

    #105 – I’m with you on that…What’s taking so freakin’ long for them to renew those contracts. I think its pretty embarrassing that our AD, Chancellor, President, and others in the UH can’t get things done.

  189. Couch potato November 2, 2011 12:50 pm

    Buffoman, yep yep, the things you can influence when you get deep pockets.

  190. WarriorMojo November 2, 2011 12:51 pm

    If my #185 is correct, that line was pretty good that year. Klemm and (I think) Noa were drafted. Owen and (I think Smith) were free agents.

    Just goes to show how much QB mobility and a quick release can help the sack stats. Love Dan Robinson, but he was pretty stationary back there as was Gregg Alexander in 2008.

    I think Mo has slightly better open field “escapability” than Colt, but Mo tries not to run where Colt was much more willing to tuck and go.

    And neither guy holds a candle in running ability when compared to Inoke.

  191. WarriorMojo November 2, 2011 12:58 pm

    CP, thanks for that link. Much better than the ESPN rosters, but still doesn’t tell me who the starters were.

    I do remember now that Andy Phillips was a starter. Also Faavi isn’t listed on the roster and Vince Manuwai is. So was it Klemm and Noa at T, Owen and Manuwai at G, and Phillips at C? Confused again.

  192. mikey November 2, 2011 1:06 pm

    #185 Warrior Mojo: You got that down pat…

    This was the same Offensive line that went 0-12 the previous year 1998 with Von App Era

    We sat thru every game of those unfortunate Von’s last year. My 6 year-old daughter kept

    asking me ‘do we have to go to the game?’ And I said ‘Yes, We must, we’re Warriors’

    well we were known as still Rainbows back then. lol

    But Klemm and Noa worked hard that Summer and with great improvement and help got Drafted by the NFL in year 2000. And many more to Linemen to come or go to NFL after that season.

  193. A-joe November 2, 2011 1:22 pm

    In 2000, the O-line gave up a total of 10 sacks that year.

    Mostly in part to JJ and Morrison instructing Timmy to employ a quick release. Time of possession suffered significantly.

  194. d1shima November 2, 2011 1:23 pm

    Check out the sack totals for the 2000 season. (Sorry, no can post the link from this ‘putah)

    It’s interesting to see what a quick release can do to the sack numbers. 😉

  195. d1shima November 2, 2011 1:24 pm

    WOW! .

    A-joe, Great minds…. 😆

  196. d1shima November 2, 2011 1:25 pm

    I have yet to see a QB who can get the ball to the edge on a bubble screen as fast as TC.

  197. d1shima November 2, 2011 1:26 pm

    …of course, by that time he had about 8 years of working on it! 😉

  198. Kevin November 2, 2011 1:28 pm

    JD gets a pass for Mack’s contract situation as ST mentioned a while ago that Mack’s deal is ALL upper campus.

    Ferd reports that Gib’s deal is near completion though. Yeah it took a while, but whatever…

    Besides, JD’s contract too back in 2008 took a long time to get done as well. I think he was on the job for about 4-6 months before something got done.

  199. BigWave96744 November 2, 2011 1:29 pm


    UH 41 – Utah St 38

  200. Buffoman November 2, 2011 1:30 pm

    192 Mikey,

    My son had a different take back then. it was like, “dad, what time we going, I want to finish this game.” “No problem son, we can leave about 20 minutes before kick off and close enough to the stadium so we don’t have to rush.”

    Ahh, those Von Appen days, when it was never a rush to get to the stadium. When you and your friends wahted to tailgate, you could actually be an “island” in the middle of some area in the parking lot and not have to worry about taking two or three stalls.

    Yes, he did make some things convenient.

  201. Kevin November 2, 2011 1:34 pm

    The blanks for the signal cannons are available online, BUT lots of those sites do NOT offer shipping to Hawaii due to the explosive content in the shells. I think it was 45.00 for 10 blanks???

    Back in 2008 I emailed Gwen Nakamura about it and she said she found a local supplier that they purchase the shells from. At that time she had joked that UH better score less than 5 TDs cause that was how many blanks they had until the local supplier receives the order to deliver to them.

    Chawan had suggested contacting PCHS’s marching band as they use signal cannons for their performances, but this was a while ago.

    I wanted a signal cannon of my own for New Years but at nearly 600.00 for a cheap one similar to the Winchester Signal Cannon UH has was too steep of a price.

    Those suckers pack a PUNCH considering how small they are too.

  202. d1shima November 2, 2011 1:38 pm

    re: cannon

    It sure seemed like there has been an ample supply of M80’s around at the end of the year for the past 2-3 years!

  203. dopaco24 November 2, 2011 1:39 pm


    November 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 am

    Thundersticks don’t appear to be loud from a distance, but in the stadium it’s open air.

    INDOORS will be a different story. I’ve only seen thundersticks in pro indoor arenas like in the NBA and NHL. I don’t think I’ve seen them at college arenas for basketball, even the big schools.”

    I have thundersticks from Jacksonville State, Tennessee, Alabama, and Auburn basketball games. I’ve seen them on TV at Duke, Texas, and Gonzaga. Most, if not all, schools hand out thundersticks. I’ve even seen them during tournament play.

  204. mikey November 2, 2011 1:44 pm

    191 WarriorMojo and talking about Vince Manuwai:

    That year 1999 was also the beginning of our Offensive Linemen Era that started when June brought in little Matt Cavanaugh but with Booming Voice from his SD Chargers line coach.

    I usually don’t watch offensive linemen practice but that year I was watching a One-on-One against the DL. And there was this little OL Freshmen taken on one after another block after block against Bigger and faster DL. I finally had to asked in no one in particular, ‘who is this guy?’

    And Steven Tsai answered me ‘It’s Vince Manuai’ Thanks ST, I knew then that we had a player who would be starting as a Freshmen. And that was ‘Year of 1999’ a very good year!

  205. mikey November 2, 2011 1:47 pm

    I’ll check back later but got a APEC meeting to go to.

    Later gang and happy posting

  206. kev-1 November 2, 2011 1:47 pm

    #190 . . . very well said. In my opinion, that’s part of what made Colt so exciting? The fact that we knew he could do it with his arm, yet every now and then the guy would just want to go out and make a play with his feet. Two plays I will never forget are (1) Colt getting KO’d by Fresno – not for the danger related to the hit, but the fire that it demonstrated and how it exemplified what he meant for his team. And (2) Colt high stepping into the muddy endzone at San Jose State.

    Man I miss that guy. I do agree that Moniz is a better runner though.

  207. Kevin November 2, 2011 1:51 pm


    Was VERY disappointed this past New Years. We stopped doing fireworks and just relied on the FANTASIC show put on by the lower Pearl City residents. All we got were flying lanterns…. WTF!!!????!?!!!!

  208. Buffoman November 2, 2011 1:52 pm

    So Mikey.. was it the individual talent of Vince Manuwai or was it the coaching?

    When JJ first took over, on that first game, I remember watching the pre-game stuff and said to my wife and son, “wow, the o-line looks very different from what I’ve seen in the past. It looks like we’ll have a different kind of o-line working here.” And then I saw that little bald guy yell, slapping the backs of the players and instructing individuals on what I would guess was a reinforcement of tweaks he’dinstalled since taking over.

    Cav, in my mind is still the best o-line coach UH has had, bar none. Remember, he took some of Von Appen’s recruits who went “0 fer” and made then attractive to the NFL. Amazing.

    Thus, the question, which may or may not pertain to what we now have.

  209. Kevin November 2, 2011 1:52 pm


    Thanks for clearing that up. Those conferences and schools are MUCH more looser with their noisemaker polices, thus giving a FANTASTIC home court advantage to their teams.

    Only if…. Only if… 🙁

  210. Kevin November 2, 2011 1:55 pm

    RE: Cannons and blank ammo.

    I called Magnum Firearms back then asking about blanks for UH and the guy there said you need a firearms license to have one and use it. He said they have the capability to fire REAL ammo. He even said he was surprised UH uses one in that capacity…

    Ummm.. Whatever man… 🙄

    Then someone reminded me that Magnum Firearms got busted for some kind of firearm issue a while back.

  211. A-joe November 2, 2011 1:57 pm

    195: D-1

    just posting what you telepathically told me to post.

    wait… whats that?…




    ugh… okaaayy…

  212. Ralph November 2, 2011 1:58 pm

    wasn’t a firearm issue,it was not paying taxes on profits earned from selling firearms.

  213. kev-1 November 2, 2011 2:01 pm

    on the APEC note . . . my daughter goes to dance class Kakaako where ther is NO parking. There was always this group of homeless people living out of their vans occupying 3 street parking stalls with a full on tarp set up from the vans to the bushes – furniture and all. I took my daughter to dance class last night . . . no more homeless. I thought “wow, I wonder they ended up?” And then I thought, “oh, at least I can park now.” NOPE! The curb is now painted red with NO PARKING stenciled on it.

    Yet another example of how the state is jumping through hoops to create a facade for this APEC conference. Had the state wanted to truly reflect the needs of the Kakaako neighborhood, the area would have been cleaned up, and made available to area users. But NO, we can’t have that. What if the homeless come back?

    I used to work at Queen’s Hospital, and every year, this national certification organization JCAHO would come around. For a week, the hospital followed every rule in the book, made sure all was in order, and made employees memorize words and phrases that reflected the “theme” the hospital was following at the time. The unit I worked on even went as far as to make sure “select” employees were working the shift the group was supposed to come around. Reports were made to show all the positives and then some. After JCAHO pau, back to normal.

    I have heard many versions of this quote, but it definitely applies here . . . its what you do when no one is watching that counts.

  214. kev-1 November 2, 2011 2:04 pm

    sorry, small kine rant . . . I just don’t get a good feeling when stuff like that happens. If you want to help the homeless, then help them. Don’t just kick them out because dignitaries are in town. Shoot, if you’re going to be strict about the homeless, be strict about it all the time. Maybe that will force the community and government to be more proactive with providing alternatives for the homeless population. Not to mention give incentive for those that prefer the streets over homeless shelters.

  215. Bleed Green and White November 2, 2011 2:04 pm

    Mr. Tsai, I love your marketing ideas.

    Speaking of camouflage, wouldn’t it be GREAT promotion to bring back Fab-5 type basketball unis….?

  216. d1shima November 2, 2011 2:04 pm


  217. A-joe November 2, 2011 2:09 pm

    215- BG&W

    Now THAT design was waaay before its time! I think that would be pretty cool to bring back.

  218. Kevin November 2, 2011 2:15 pm


    Typical reaction vs action again. Yesterday I joked that with all the quick turnaround time on improvements JUST for APEC, wouldn’t it been great if UH Manoa hosted APEC on campus so that EVERYTHING would FINALLY be upgraded in record time.

    It shows things CAN be done afterall, but only if apparently given priority amongst the decision-makers.

    Another example that effects UH is replacement of the turf and the recent paint job/rust removal efforts. If the Pro Bowl didn’t make their complaints/concerns known, would these things have been done? DOUBT IT.

    Apparently the decision makers have priorities, but when it comes to serving the people that live and reside here, those things can get tossed to the bottom of the pile.

  219. Kevin November 2, 2011 2:18 pm

    One of the check in terminals at the airport got a facelift amongst a whole bunch of other things “just in time for APEC”…

    Stupid water fountain in the front of a hotel in Waikiki got fixed… “in time for APEC”.

    Right, like it was some damn coincidence.

    No APEC and that water fountain would still be dry and people would still dread the possibility of catching TB or having a ceiling panel fall on them at HNL.

  220. Ralph November 2, 2011 2:27 pm

    Na Wahine soccer on WAC TV, game time, Thursday, 2:30 p.m. PST

  221. Gail Kint November 2, 2011 2:58 pm

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  222. mikey November 2, 2011 3:14 pm

    Talking of Airport, I use to work at HNL 5 years ago and the same place still leaks today when rain falls. Some areas use to come down like waterfall.

    According to yesterdays report they did fix the leaks at HNL but only the International side where the dignitaries will be coming thru.

    Last week when I went thru Ichon, S Korea and Beijing, Xian, Shanghai Airports they were all 5 Star rated and you can eat of the floor, even their restrooms compared to HNL a No Star.

    It’s embarrassing to see all the rubbish buckets full of water like a Poor House that we are.

    Even at our own house you’d fix the leaking roof right a way.

    Tourist must think State of Hawaii must be Poor and Deprived

  223. Couch potato November 2, 2011 3:19 pm

    my grass hut home leaks. time for new coconut leaves.

  224. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 2, 2011 3:25 pm

    Saban being interviewed on ESPN right now in his office.

    Wow…now THAT’S an office. Geeeeez.

  225. mikey November 2, 2011 3:26 pm

    Thanks Ralph for the WAC TV game time tomorrow. Didn’t know UH Wahine Soccer team was doing so well rank #3 and playing against #6 NMS tomorrow. Must be the coaching.

    I watch any sports Live if available.

  226. kev-1 November 2, 2011 3:28 pm

    I guess this whole APEC thing is like when you get married. My wife lost weight for the wedding, and then what? I quit smoking for the wedding, but when sneak around smoke for like 3 more years (shhh, no tell my wife).

    Nevermind making giving Hawaii a wonder bra. Pay for the implants already.

  227. Kaimuki Kid November 2, 2011 3:39 pm

    State: We will absolutely not do a sweep of the homeless before APEC. Right!

  228. Kevin November 2, 2011 3:41 pm

    The state’s infrastructure is like one’s wife, implants won’t do the trick.


  229. Slugger November 2, 2011 3:42 pm

    Watching the Temple-Ohio game. The Ohio uniforms look a bit like the UH black unis. The Ohio substitution confusion looks worse than some of our previous problems.

    Haven’t gone to practice this week. 🙁

    Rain, rain, go away…


  230. Kaimuki Kid November 2, 2011 3:43 pm

    Well, well, well, I finally am able to post. That irritating Gator whatever appeared when I tried to hit the submit button. Does anyone know how to get around it?

  231. mikey November 2, 2011 3:43 pm

    I must say I was impressed with Korean Airlines stewardess they are impeccable.

    They are the most well dressed and everyone of them looks identical. From the back you be thinking looking all the same person.

    They never sit around like another local airline and I was most impressed that they went into the restrooms and cleaned up between passengers! Now That’s Service with Pride.

    They even served Bi Bim Bap to every passsengers with silverware not paper and plastic.

    They even gave me free Beer and felt like I was traveling First Class.

  232. Couch potato November 2, 2011 3:46 pm

    i have a craving for a korean airline hostess now.

  233. Kaimuki Kid November 2, 2011 3:48 pm

    Re:Cannon uses a special 10 Gauge shotgun shell that is not available in local firearms dealers. I tried to post this earlier.

  234. Kaimuki Kid November 2, 2011 3:49 pm

    Oh Yeah GO WARRIORS!

  235. Garret November 2, 2011 3:52 pm

    Nice feature article on Chad Owens. The article is quite long, but here is a part with one of Chad’s high school coaches.

    Reggie Dela Cruz, one of Owens’ coaches at Honolulu’s Roosevelt High School, urged him to try out at the University of Hawaii instead of opting for junior college.

    “He had a special quality that went way beyond his physical abilities,” says Dela Cruz. “He had all the skills, but there was a burning desire to be the best. He was always trying to make himself better.”

    Then there was his competitiveness.

    “He always had to be first,” Dela Cruz says. “When we had sprints, whatever, if he didn’t finish first, he’d really get angry. It drove him crazy.”–flyin-hawaiian-still-beating-the-odds

  236. Garret November 2, 2011 3:56 pm


    Cal-Berkeley is an interesting example of the Federal research dollars that a school can get.

    Cal gets $340 mil per year from tuition and fees from all of its students

    Cal gets $225 mil per year from the state of California

    Cal gets $500 mil per year from Federal research dollars!

    So, money that Cal wins in competitive research grants is almost equal to all of their money from the state and of the tuition and fee money the students pay…that is $500 mil coming into the state of California because their researchers win the research money.

  237. Garret November 2, 2011 4:01 pm


    I don’t want to re-post the number that WassupDoc mentioned for UH’s research grant money…but it wasn’t very good and has decreased significantly while other schools are winning a lot more grants.

    This list shows that Johns Hopkins got $1.6 bil in federal research money in 2009 (the most recent year info is available for all schools).

    Michigan got $636 mil in federal research money.

    U-Dub got $620 mil.

    MIT got $532 mil.

    UC-San Diego got $511 mil.

  238. Garret November 2, 2011 4:05 pm


    I haven’t heard talk from the Board of Regents, Governor, Chancellor, or anyone else really to try to get UH on the list of the top 10 or 30 universities for research dollars. All I hear from UH is budget cuts, losing programs, poorly maintained facilities, and depressed faculty.

    I don’t hear *anyone* talking about getting UH into a Berkeley or UCLA level of research. Not even a goal that may be years off but would give something to shoot for. The sad thing is that there are hundreds of millions of dollars that could flow into the state that will go elsewhere because the researchers that earn the money are there.

  239. Ralph November 2, 2011 4:06 pm

    In 2009, UH Mānoa received $330 million in awards, with research grants reaching $216 million and nonresearch awards reaching $114 million.

  240. d1shima November 2, 2011 4:13 pm


    Those Ohio unis threw me off, too! Thought was a replay or something at first.

  241. Not an Expert November 2, 2011 4:38 pm

    UH is in the land of paradise. Smell the coffee and the ocean breeze. Have a few and sit back. Always tomorrow, no rush, take it easy, no work too hard, nice balmy tradewinds and really not much to do here in paradise like on the mainland.

    So what do you expect from our main university. It is a way of life. The positive about all this is we have a longer life expectancy than the other 49 states. No stress out.

  242. d1shima November 2, 2011 4:55 pm

    I kinda like the matte black finish on their helmets

  243. A-joe November 2, 2011 5:00 pm

    Have you seen Oklahoma State’s uni’s? Their helmets are just that shade of gray that makes them look like giant ticks.


  244. Stephen Tsai November 2, 2011 5:08 pm

    The Gator hits when I use the phone card for the computer. After that, gotta clear the cache and restart the computer.

  245. d1shima November 2, 2011 5:12 pm

    Yeah, but they undefeated giant ticks! 😆

  246. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 2, 2011 5:20 pm

    They are undefeated giant ticks that drive around in a rolls royce.

  247. ai-eee-soos November 2, 2011 5:30 pm

    weekly recap in USA Today. Hawaii is the 2nd team in the article. several errors noted.

  248. A-joe November 2, 2011 6:02 pm

    After this weekends home game, the Huskies set to renovate their stadium in the next 18 months for $250 mil.

    A fly over of what’s to be the newly renovated Husky Stadium.

  249. Haleakala November 2, 2011 6:22 pm


    Huskie stadium could use a renovation. They have wooden bench seats which are very basic and not comfortable. You have to have a small okole otherwise you will be in the space for the guy next to you. The venue is beautiful though. Its right next to the water. Boats come in with fans and they boat gate instead of tail gate. Its pretty unique.

  250. Garret November 2, 2011 6:24 pm

    Craig Thompson talked about how the MWC would invite 2 schools to replace AF and BSU…SJSU and Utah State are mentioned of course.

    Mountain West Commissioner Craig Thompson said Utah State and San Jose State would be considered as potential new members for his league if Boise State or Air Force leave for the Big East Conference.

    “If we were to find out that people are leaving, I’d make my recommendation to the board,” Thompson said Wednesday by phone.

  251. Haleakala November 2, 2011 6:29 pm


    MWC will be a rough clone of the WAC of last year. There will be more changes. Hopefully in five years, we’ll look back and say it at least it worked out for UH. At this point, we can only hope.

  252. AlaWai November 2, 2011 6:36 pm

    Garret: Thanks for the info on the federal grants. I wonder what our democrats in congress and our Kama`aina president were doing through all this?

  253. WarriorMojo November 2, 2011 6:39 pm

    I guess I know the answer to this question, but is Benson doing ANYTHING to prevent the WAC from disappearing forever? I guess there’s nothing he CAN do, but, jeez, it seems pretty inevitable at this point.

    Garret, not saying I want to do this, but any reason why the MWC wouldn’t take Idaho as well as insurance against any other defections? Not that there’s anywhere else for anyone to go (assuming LaTech goes to CUSA), but I just don’t understand how the alliance between the MWC and CUSA protects against conference defections.

  254. Haleakala November 2, 2011 6:42 pm


    All the hospitals in the State are barely making it. St. Francis had to be taken back by the sisters because the doctors group which purchsed it a few years ago could not sustain the business. Even the State hospitals have been struggling for years. Also doctors can do better else where in the nation. My neighbor was chief of surgery of a hospital here, and he moved to work in Oregon because he could make more and put in less hours. I don’t how Obama care will affect the medical field in the future.

  255. A-House November 2, 2011 6:53 pm

    What is UH’s athletic goal? Is it a highly guarded “top secret” document?

    Who is responsible for putting it together or be responsible for maintaining it by adding to or deleting from on a “timely basis”? Is it the Athletic Director? What specific role does each and every “assistant athletic director” play in the overall effort?

    Anyone seen or hear of such a plan – short term, mid-term and long term goals? the ultimate goal and how to acheive it?

    What plans, if any, exists? recruiting, marketing, BCS bowl invite, facilities, etc. What “model” are they using to set up their multi-faceted plans which must contain current and future operations for all sports? I’d be very disappointed if a leader says nothing can be done because of lack of funds!

    Or, is it a “piece meal” operation where no plan exists and coaches are left to fend for themselves and thus be of the “I must control”, “I must have” and the hell with the rest? Has anyone heard of a coach put forth a comprehensive plan to upgrade his/her sport with definitive assumptions/ideas/facts and how to acheive it/them?

    Is this not what a successful business leader does to be competitive and #1? If you are #2 or #3, what must be done to be #1?

    Team effort must be #1 above all else.

    While completing the rock garden, a coach walked by and said, “we need more people like you”. My silent question was, “coach besides coaching, what have you done to make UH better?”

  256. Haleakala November 2, 2011 7:00 pm


    You’re asking one of the main questions about UH. I’ve also brought that up before. What are UH’s goals? The answer to that question has been silence. Their goals and long term vision should be shared with the community. Once the goals are known, what will be the plans to achieve those goals? They may know what the goals and plans are, but the community which it serves is not being updated. On this aspect, they really need to improve.

  257. Shoko November 2, 2011 7:14 pm

    Not too good to keep Warrior fans in the dark. Only builds resentment.

  258. wafan November 2, 2011 7:31 pm

    Just about finished packing. Taking my state officer to the state officer training tomorrow. Four days of pretty intense cramming. She’s better prepared than she thinks she is. It will be a very pleasant surprise for her.

    She asked what the place looked. I told her it was a camp in the middle of the woods — one road in and out. Definitely a city girl. Did not understand until I drew her a picture of the rough layout then had to write “WOODS” all around the outer perimeter. Her reply? “Oh!” Duh.

  259. wafan November 2, 2011 7:34 pm

    Warriors will do their part on Saturday. Plow the Aggies under!!!


  260. madeinhawaii November 2, 2011 7:45 pm

    Their goal is obviously one of not making waves. Status Quo… apply band aid when broken.. chewing gum if need is severe… hair pin if desperate.

  261. papajoe2 November 2, 2011 7:48 pm


    Hawaii 31

    USU 17


  262. kev-1 November 2, 2011 7:53 pm

    #232 . . . hahaha! Do Korean airline hostesses sit down and have $20 drinks on the plane too?

  263. Ralph November 2, 2011 7:56 pm

    Upper campus has a vision and a plan, are we questioning whether lower campus, UHAD, has a vision and has it been made public.

  264. Garret November 2, 2011 7:59 pm

    I guess I know the answer to this question, but is Benson doing ANYTHING to prevent the WAC from disappearing forever? I guess there’s nothing he CAN do, but, jeez, it seems pretty inevitable at this point.

    Garret, not saying I want to do this, but any reason why the MWC wouldn’t take Idaho as well as insurance against any other defections? Not that there’s anywhere else for anyone to go (assuming LaTech goes to CUSA), but I just don’t understand how the alliance between the MWC and CUSA protects against conference defections.


    Benson signaled that the WAC could morph into a non-football conference when he added so many non-football schools…the UT-Arlington addition was particularly surprising to me. The WAC will continue as a (subpar, especially without Utah State) basketball conference with high travel expenses and low revenue. It is sad to think of what the WAC was and what it is now.

    The MWC doesn’t need to take Idaho right now. Going for more than 10 schools will probably result in less money for all of their schools, and the MWC is already falling far behind the others. If the MWC is poached, they can always backfill with WAC schools until the WAC is completely gone.

    Idaho is the last-place football team in the WAC, has a tiny football stadium, a bad basketball team, and no TV ratings. They have a small athletic budget and has limited room for growth and success. I don’t see why the MWC would want them.

    I could see NMSU getting an invitation before Idaho because NMSU at least shows life in football and has a great basketball team. Plus, NMSU has natural rivals in the MWC.

    I hope that La Tech gets the CUSA invitation instead of FIU or other options. If La Tech doesn’t get into CUSA now, they may never get there.

  265. Ipu Man November 2, 2011 8:02 pm

    Pomai #77

    UH vs USU

    20 – 17 Bowwar

    20 – 17 Ipu Man

    Sorry, Did not know Bowwaw picked same score before me.

    So you can change mine to

    21 – 17

  266. d1shima November 2, 2011 8:11 pm

    Auryte the “Stutz Muffin” on L & L.

    Aloha to the Leahey Ohana as they celebrate Hoku’s trip to Doggie Heaven.

  267. Garret November 2, 2011 8:12 pm

    Garret: Thanks for the info on the federal grants. I wonder what our democrats in congress and our Kama`aina president were doing through all this?


    These big research grants are based on MERIT. The President and Congress have *nothing* to do with the awards and they should not. Federal money is important to fund advances in medicine, green technology, engineering, science, and a lot of other fields that will result in boosts to the US economy. Giving out federal grants like welfare to favorite states would be a huge failure for our country!

    I also bet that UH didn’t even try for many of the biggest federal grants because UH doesn’t have the researchers needed to even apply. You need a powerful group of researchers to get those types of programs and UH doesn’t have clusters like that in most areas. You cannot win any of the grants you don’t even apply for…and blaming the President or Congress for that doesn’t make sense for me.

    You can track who is winning the money, see what they are doing with the money, and understand why they win and how well they are using the money. Researchers who don’t deliver what they promised don’t get money easily again. That is how it should be, our tax dollars have to be used properly and not distributed like welfare to states that cannot earn it on their own merit.

    You can also look at other countries and see what Universities they are working with…because those are earned completely by merit. That is why Japan has a Stanford campus and Japanese universities all try to work with Stanford professors. That is why the organization in Japan that has been given hundreds of millions of dollars to make advances in green technology could pick one school to work with and instead of picking UH they picked Arizona State. That wasn’t because of the location, that was because of the group of researchers Arizona State had and how they built up a cluster of leaders in the field.

    UH needs to pick a few key areas and be the BEST at it, instead of trying to spread out its research and have professors fend for themselves. Algae fuel research is one that is a natural for Hawaii, for example. Some UH researchers have made amazing advances (like in cloning), but UH needs 3-5 top researchers collaborating in a field to make a big name for the school.

  268. Kevin November 2, 2011 8:26 pm


    November 2nd, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    Have you seen Oklahoma State’s uni’s? Their helmets are just that shade of gray that makes them look like giant ticks.


    Oh wait, you said Ticks, I read it as di… never mind.

  269. expat November 2, 2011 8:30 pm


    It is pretty simple. If you want a top-tier university you have to invest in it. The same goes for having a top-tier athletic department — to some degree.

    UH is not far away from being on par with the bulk of the PAC-12 schools academically. I think that if UH wanted to get there it would have to pay faculty more (to be able to recruit and retain top notch faculty) and increase enrollment. The reported undergraduate enrollment is significantly smaller than any of the public PAC-12 institutions — and that is considering what US News reports as an abysmal 17% four year graduation rate.

    Given the size of the school the research grant monies are probably fairly on-par with many institutions in per capita terms. Cal, UCLA and UDub all are almost 2x the size of UH in terms of enrollment.

    The massive budget cuts that have hit the UC system — and all state schools — will likely continue to depress those schools academically. Cal and UCLA are the only state schools in US New’s top 25 National University Rankings — and they are #21 and #25.

  270. jm2375 November 2, 2011 8:40 pm

    Warrior volleyball boosters received the 2012 schedule tonight. Home matches include Lewis, Nittaidai, Grand Canyon, Springfield (who dat?) and the usual MPSF suspects – UCLA (3x), BYWho, Irvine, Long Beach (Senior Night) & UCSD (opening night). Final Four to be played in Los Angeles (UCLA or USC?)

    Considering that only 3 matches will be televised, come down and support the Warriors, and experience the Screechers and the infamous Tsaiko conversationalists. 😆

  271. Haleakala November 2, 2011 8:43 pm


    Thanks for the url on UH’s vision and strategic plan for 2011 – 2015. It appears that this document is internal to UH and has not been promoted to the broader community. All of participating in the working and focus groups, and others providing input to the plan are students, faculty, staff and administrators of UH. Their vision is: “The University of Hawai‘i at Mānoa will gain international recognition as among the nation’s leading land, sea, and space grant universities. Grounded in the traditional values of our host culture, we strive for excellence in teaching, research, and community engagement, while promoting environmental sustainability and human justice.” The vision is certainly noble and one that most people would support.

    The document recognizes that there needs to be more outreach to the broader community and that there needs to be responsiveness to community concerns. That being said, I wonder why the strategic plan was formulated without outreach and input from the community outside of the university. As such, there is no mention whatsoever of the importance of athletics to the people of the State of Hawaii or the need for improvements of the lower campus. If the broader community was included, possibly this and other concerns would have been included. Without any mention of the athletic programs in the strategic plan, the budget for athletics will not be deemed very important in the coming years.

  272. AlaWai November 2, 2011 8:57 pm

    Garret: Thanks for the explanation. I have heard that corporations grant big amounts to universities willing to undertake research and development. If medicine and fuels are our only major areas then we are far behind other schools. I am really curious to see what happens from hereon.

  273. kev-1 November 2, 2011 9:09 pm

    those ohio uniforms do look like UH’s. I think UH would look pretty good with a flat black helmet like that too.

  274. Ralph November 2, 2011 9:24 pm

    Haleakala, if UH had opened their vision and mission to the public for input they would have increased the number of stake holders to too large of a core group to be manageable and like this blog, everyone has an opinion of what is relevant to them.

    An open forum would have a lot of different ideas, those ideas that are implemented would make their stake holders happy, those whose ideas were not part of the agenda would be habut.

    I think the core group UH used is adequate, did they pick the right individuals from the core group to make a difference, only time will tell. UH needs foresight, not hindsight and what might have been.

  275. jm2375 November 2, 2011 10:11 pm

    Dr. Ralph scared everybody away. 😀

  276. homey ℞ November 2, 2011 10:13 pm

    Cannon is good. Now if they can only amp up the bowzooka and make the t-shirts reach the upper levels.

  277. el burro sabio November 2, 2011 10:18 pm

    Ralph, perfectly stated!

  278. madeinhawaii November 2, 2011 10:48 pm

    Foresight without key leadership is mediocre at best.

  279. LizKauai (macbook) November 2, 2011 11:00 pm

    I loved One Last Thing- about Steve Jobs on PBS… we are all capable of greatness.

  280. LizKauai (macbook) November 2, 2011 11:54 pm

    Condolences to the Leahey Ohana on the passing of Hoku, their black lab.

  281. Ralph November 3, 2011 12:20 am

    Foresight and making an assessment that the leaders picked are the ones to fulfill that vision and mission is all we can ask of the selection committee and the core stakeholders who designed the strategic plan.

    MIH hindsight doesn’t count, hindsight allows us to judge whether the strategic plan was right and in the best interest of the University and if the leadership picked were the right choices. To pre judge and cast a pall over the leadership before events unfold and an assessment made of the just completed strategic plan of 2002 to 2010 is shortsighted. Just because coach Mac didn’t get his contract extension doesn’t mean UH’s strategic and its leaders have failed, after all, UH is an academic institution first and foremost with intercollegiate athletics including football.

    An extension of the plan carries UH to 2015. Hinshaw guided UH to 10 more years of accreditation. She says she stepped down because she knew she wasn’t going to be here to shepard UH in the next decade and she wanted the next stakeholder committed long term for the betterment of UH.

  282. SteveM November 3, 2011 12:49 am

    My head is overloaded and my eyeballs are blurring…

    Seems a good night for My Hawaii:

  283. SteveM November 3, 2011 12:52 am

    My Hawaii (karaoke version) 🙂

  284. Curt November 3, 2011 1:10 am

    Hey SteveM,

    Shouldn’t you be sleeping at this hour? Wassamatta u? Ha-ha. Good night SteveM.

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