Quick decision

Whether you agree or not with the sanctions against coach Greg McMackin, it was surprising to see UH officials act so swiftly.
The worst thing would have been to let this drag out.

* * * * *

One of the after-effects of Greg McMackin’s controversial speech is that a once useful event — the WAC Football Preview — might be nearing the end.
The event was designed for the member schools to promote their teams and for the media to create contacts. The information gathered was used for stories for special preview issues, which once were big business for newspapers, which once were big business, too.
But the past two years, the WAC has held the event in Salt Lake City, which is 90 miles away from the nearest league member, Utah State.
Attendance has dwindled. Sixty-five media credentials were issued, although hometown newspapers for three schools — Fresno State, San Jose State and New Mexico State — did not send any reporters. ESPN.com’s Graham Watson, who coverss the non-BCS leagues, also decided not to attend.
The WAC has essentially two stars — quarterbacks Colin Kaepernick of Nevada and Kellen Moore of Boise State — but only one attended. Moore, a sophomore was left back, presumably because of the school’s preference of being represented by upperclassmen.
In past years, the event coincided with the unveiling of each team’s media guides. But because of a national movement to cut expenses, only four WAC teams printed media guides this year. All signs point to UH discontinuing the practice next year.
In speeches to reporters, most coaches discuss their depth charts. If the event were held next year, don’t expect any coach to deviate from a well-edited script.


  1. Ralph July 31, 2009 3:08 am

    first, did you just get home on the red eye

  2. Stephen Tsai July 31, 2009 3:22 am

    Nope. Still in Utah.

  3. NYUH July 31, 2009 3:30 am

    ST: What rank would you give UH after attending this prestigious and informative event?

  4. Stephen Tsai July 31, 2009 3:36 am

    Probably fourth.
    Boise and Nevada are ahead.
    Fresno lost a lot of people.
    Louisiana Tech could have a nice team.
    And Tomey is really confident about San Jose State.

  5. PowderPuff July 31, 2009 3:48 am

    Good morning after. August — and football — are right around the corner. Happy Aloha Friday!

  6. NYUH July 31, 2009 3:55 am

    Thanks, do you think the WAC is better this year? Seems like Hawaii is not that bad but a lot of teams will be decent.

  7. BigWave96744 July 31, 2009 3:59 am

    Tehy say if you Slepl a wrod wtih fuor or mroe ltteres wtih the fsirt and lsat ltetres the smae and tehn slcmrabe rset, you can slitl urntdeasnd it.
    Wlel Bllua and I was in Crchuh and raed the lsit of new mnes blbie sutdy ledares.
    We saw the nmae “STEPHEN TASI” and bgaen to lguah….
    My wfie jsut soohk her haed.

    Another time I read and announcement,
    “Men’s cookout this Saturday. Meat and Grills will be provided by the Church”
    For some reason I didn’t read it as “Grills”…. Guess what word I saw (you have to take away 1 “L”)?
    I couldn’t get that silly grin off my face all service.

  8. Garret July 31, 2009 4:14 am

    Didn’t at least one D-IA conference cut out their Conference’s Preseason Media Gathering this year? Given finances for the conferences and newspapers, I’m guessing that many more conferences will stop holding them in the future. At least this will save UH money and reduce WAC expenses.

  9. Garret July 31, 2009 4:19 am

    This screenshot shows that ESPN used a pretty odd headline for their story on Mac–“Hawaii’s McMackin outed at WAC media preview”

  10. Garret July 31, 2009 4:21 am

    The Pac-10’s new commissioner has not attended a college football game in 12 years!

    Out of the box? He’s more like out of the boxcar. Every perception you might attach to a big-time college commissioner, forget it. Graduated from Harvard, played tennis there, lived in London for seven years not long ago, and when I pressed him on the issue, guessed he hadn’t attended a college football game since before 1997.

    That was Harvard-Yale, by the way.

  11. Garret July 31, 2009 4:25 am

    Article about the Derby Camp.

    Held at Beaverton’s Five Oaks Middle School and Portland’s David Douglas High School, the camp featured athletes from such schools as Westview, Aloha, Southridge, South Salem, Sprague, West Linn, Kentwood (Wash.), Mountain View (Wash.) and Hillsboro high schools.

    The players and coaches of the camp struggled to beat the heat while taking part in line-specific drills that help develop sound technique and explosive speed coming off the snap. Run and pass-blocking techniques were taught as well.

    For the past 13 years, Brian Derby has given young Hawaiian athletes 22 weekends of his life through his offensive line clinics. A Honolulu fire captain of 19 years and a former University of Hawaii football player, Derby has a passion to help big men succeed in the sport of football.

    This year marked the camp’s fifth trip to the Pacific Northwest.

    Derby is known for his tireless dedication to his students and receives no financial benefit from his camps. He is credited by many with helping some of the best linemen achieve the quickness and blocking technique to play at the highest level.

    Derby was joined this week by coach Mike Beazley of Oahu and coach Samson Kela of the Big Island. Collegiate coaches Doug Hire of Linfield, Aleki Pascua of Portland State, Tim Bowman of Western Oregon and Daryl Agpalsa of Hamline also helped out, as all of these coaches are of Polynesian decent and from Hawaii.

  12. jm2375 July 31, 2009 4:56 am

    Top 15?

    Hola from Spain! Last full day at the house, leave tomorrow for Barcelona and Valencia. Probably won’t be able to log on till I get home, or at least at LAX. *sniff*

    Happy belated birthday to Mike and whoever else I missed, belated anniversary to Garret & Lori and condolences to the Docs.

    Esme and out. whoooosh.

  13. NYUH July 31, 2009 5:20 am


    Considering that the Mountain West is currently 2-0 in BCS games, while the WAC–thanks to Hawaii’s uplifting performance in the 2008 Sugar Bowl against Georgia, a 45-10 loss–is 1-1, Benson really needs to think before he speaks.

  14. NYUH July 31, 2009 5:22 am


    Last time out: Wisconsin won 13-10 in 2008 at Fresno State

    What they did in 2008:

    The Bulldogs were 3-1 heading into conference play, recording wins over BCS teams Rutgers and UCLA along the way. After opening WAC play with a loss to Hawaii, Fresno State alternated two wins with two losses the rest of the season, including a season-ending 40-35 loss to Colorado State in the New Mexico Bowl. The game marked the second consecutive year the Bulldogs played in a bowl game and the ninth time in 10 years.

    Two players from last year’s team were selected in the 2009 NFL Draft. Tom Brandstater was chosen with the first pick of the sixth round by Denver, while tight end Bear Pascoe went 10 picks later to San Francisco. Five players were named to the all-WAC team, with Bobby Lepori earning first-team honors.

  15. NYUH July 31, 2009 5:25 am


    Looks like Colt should ink a promotion deal.

  16. Kekoa (iPhone) July 31, 2009 5:26 am

    JM who?…Who dat?

  17. Kekoa (iPhone) July 31, 2009 5:32 am

    Ralph ~ Blog clock still off. Is it really Aloha Friday? D-1 hasn’t posted da song yet.

  18. d1島 July 31, 2009 5:44 am

    Great Morning All!

    Hooo! Woke up and had one mean nightmare! I would tell you folks about it but it’s so bizarre that no one would believe it….. 🙄

    But anyway…..

    Jus fo’ Kekoa!


  19. midnight July 31, 2009 5:46 am

    James – Barbara and I will partake of the mid-day offerings at Kum’s today with our friends.

    Barbara and I will see what the South Shore will offer this morning.

    Have a wonderful day, everyone!

  20. NYUH July 31, 2009 6:02 am

    I noticed the BC Lion are playing the Hamilton Tiger-Cats on TV tonight (Sorry, MSG on the East Coast) Any of our guys on these teams?

  21. NYUH July 31, 2009 6:08 am


    Voters pick UH second in the WAC

  22. djmitcho July 31, 2009 6:08 am

    Good Morning and Happy Aloooooha Friday to all! 5 more days til I’m back in the beautiful Hawaiian sun. I can’t wait.

  23. d1島 July 31, 2009 6:13 am

    Video teleconferencing would seem to be the future for WAC Preview Meetings. That’s probably a good thing.

    Then the SID could make sure he’s present for *ALL* that is presented by the school!


    When do you get back? Hope you don’t miss all the meetings that will be going down today: welcome back debriefs; cattle calls; who knows whatever else….

  24. NYUH July 31, 2009 6:14 am

    9/4 CENTRAL ARKANSAS 7:05pm HT
    9/12 @ Washington State (Qwest Field) 4:00pm PT

    We starting on a Friday?

  25. d1島 July 31, 2009 6:17 am


    Hope to see you when you get back!

    Have a terrific day erryboddy (strap yourselves in…it could be a wild ride!)….


  26. d1島 July 31, 2009 6:18 am


    Yep. Traffic jam and all! 😈

  27. BowsForever July 31, 2009 6:23 am

    Unless there’s been major improvement from the other WAC teams since last year, I’d put UH’s offense at least at third, though I can’t give any kind of informed rank for defense, being such an unknown. I might be a little more sure if Blaze and Rocky weren’t coming back from injury (IIRC, second injuries/re-injuries for both). It’s not like we don’t have vets, but our secondary was something of a liability last season and we had quite a few vets. If our offense can compensate and cut down on those penalties, we’ll be closer to a “classic” JJ team again (outscore the competition). On the other hand, since Ron Lee doesn’t seem to be as aggressive on offense, we’ll need a good season from LWJ and the other RBs.

  28. Kekoa (iPhone) July 31, 2009 6:52 am

    Tank Q for the official Aloha Friday song D-1. Now I feel refreshed and ready for some cc! 😎

    Dj ~ what time is your flt due into HNL?

  29. LizKauai [iMac] Unite and Conquer! July 31, 2009 6:58 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

    Hola and Adios to jm23**


  30. C rM July 31, 2009 7:05 am

    good morning tsaikos.

    please eat all the food for me at today’s cattle call.
    i heard it’s a good place.

    back to work.

  31. Slugger July 31, 2009 7:08 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka kakou!

    Off to hula conference today. Have a wonderful day everyone!

    Esme & whoosh…

  32. Buffoman July 31, 2009 7:10 am

    When a comment is made, “Tomey is optimistic about his team”, I get worried. Take nothing from BSU, FSU, LaTech and others, but we know Tomey and when he makes statements like this, you know his defense is going to “rock you”. We’d better be prepared to hit and hit as hard in that battle as I think in that game, a better defense will win.

    Great to see Tomey in that mode, just hope we’re that much better.

  33. djmitcho July 31, 2009 7:11 am

    kekoa, eta on flight is 11:55 am wednesday morning.

  34. LizKauai [iMac] Unite and Conquer! July 31, 2009 7:12 am

    Redskins Training Camp- day 2

    – Orakpo was in camp and did limited work.

    – Biggest cheer was a bomb from Brennan to Kelley.

    – Campbell looked quicker than last year.

    – Haynesworth is a MONSTER and blew up the line all day.

    – Yes, Carlos picked off a pass.

  35. Don Weir July 31, 2009 7:17 am

    Calendar Update
    1. Pigskin Pigout at Murphy’s on August 20, 2009
    2. Last chance to get a good look at UH before the season opener will be August 26, 2009 at 8:30 AM; Ching Field (Cooke Field). This will be the last full scrimmage prior to the 1st game.

  36. BIGWAVE96744 July 31, 2009 7:18 am

    D1 -2 words to eleviate traffic for the home opener: State Furlough

  37. LizKauai [iMac] Unite and Conquer! July 31, 2009 7:20 am


    A little CB5 humor in Tanner Cooley’s video…

  38. BIGWAVE96744 July 31, 2009 7:24 am

    D1 last week I dreampt I was caught outside sunset point on a huge day. A macker came rolling in & slammed me on my head. Next thing I was in the hospital. The weird thing is when I actually woke up from my sleep my back was really sore.

    Was it due to my dream? Hmmmmm? Later I found I was sleeping on 6 of LittleWave’s Thomas the Trains.. 🙂

  39. jm2375 July 31, 2009 7:30 am

    Bigwave – that’s what I thought too when the subject of furloughs first came up… 😀 😆

  40. Da Punchbowl Kid July 31, 2009 7:38 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂

    Yep maybe it’s a good thing, no WAC Preview. Teleconferencing sounds like a good idea. Coaches could even read their statements from teleprompters, eh?

    BIGWAVE- By any chance, did you leave any of LittleWave’s trains in D1’s bed last night? 😆

  41. Garret July 31, 2009 7:48 am

    Pisa is already comfortable in Chicago’s defensive system even though today was their first day of training camp. He also explains why he wanted just a 1-year contract.

    Speaking of linebackers, the expected starter on the strong side is Pisa Tinoisamoa. He’s already up to speed in the defense and said it’s virtually the same as what he was used to as a rookie in St. Louis in 2003.

    “It’s the exact same thing,” he said.

    Tinoisamoa signed a one-year contract worth $1.5 million ($1 million base, $500,000 signing bonus). He was released by the St. Louis Rams in late May and acknowledged the thought process was that a one-year deal allowed him to enter the free market at a more opportune time.

    “We tossed around the idea of a two-year deal, at least, and we talked about what happened because I got released at that time,” Tinoisamoa said. “There were different options. Weighing it out and looking at free agency and the potential that we have there, and looking at the teams we had interested, it only made sense to sign the one-year [contract]. Hopefully, things work out [longterm]. But if not, you’re with a good defense, an established defense and one I am familiar with, and I’m with a team that likes me. Why not?”

  42. Kekoa July 31, 2009 8:11 am

    Djmitcho ~ Wed. morning lookin’ pretty good for me at noon time. I think a lunch layover might work for Slammin’ Sammy Snead’s Restaurant right across the hiway from HNL.

    I’ll send you an email confirmation soon.

  43. djmitcho July 31, 2009 8:36 am

    Check with Koakane too, I thought he was planning something, unless you guys collaborating. I have 6 hours so can travel outside the airport area too.

  44. Stretch July 31, 2009 8:49 am

    I know what would make the Warrior Beat show a big attraction. Have Mac come on as next week’s guest. He will get his share of negative questions & comments but it allow him to clear the air and we can let him know how much we support him. It would also be good since it’s right before the training camp starts.

  45. wafan July 31, 2009 9:06 am

    A great Aloha Friday to all!

  46. koakane™ July 31, 2009 9:16 am

    8) wow it was mucho bright this morning added to that the humidity damn no other place to be then in Hawaii Nei. we definitely live in the bestest place on the planet.

    morning to all the tsaiko’s and tsaikette’s. have a good day and enjoy the peeps around you that make it a 😀 pleasurable work site.

    kekoa re dj have plans and will talk with you about it at cc today. some options are in the works.

    good suggestion by stretch for tuesdays tsai and wai show. :mrgreen: good to know wasn’t your gang involved in that koreamoku incident.

    back to lurking esmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  47. LizKauai July 31, 2009 9:19 am



    “Colt Brennan, Safety?

    When the offense is working apart from the defense, sometimes they have to recruit one of their own to mimic defenders.

    During one drill on Friday, quarterback Colt Brennan donned a yellow rag over his helmet and lined up at strong safety.

    Before the ball was snapped, Brennan even approached the line of scrimmage in an apparent effort to blitz.

    He was quickly swallowed up by blocker Eddie Williams, though.”

  48. JK July 31, 2009 9:21 am

    Coach Mac cried on Bobby Curran so that automatically wins remorse. Studies have shown that crying helps turn the minds of people 65% of the time. So now we gotta have an “out of your mind” season to turn 30% of the crowd to forget this ever happened. For the other 5%…well let them dance. Ha!!!!

  49. (Jesse)James July 31, 2009 9:21 am

    Good morning Tsaikos…

    Stretch, that’s actually a good idea…well, at least I like it….

    dj…cool, will finally get to meet another fellow Monarch…

    C rM. will do…too bad you cannot make it….oh, and where’s the tita…LMAO…

    Hope everyone has a great day…

  50. Dirty Commish July 31, 2009 9:23 am

    Colt Watch supplement (because Liz does an awesome job already, I am only the fake plastic green spikey thingy in your bento)

    SI’s Peter King observes:

    3. Colt Brennan will put up a good fight for the backup QB job, and he looked good in the morning practice I saw of him going head-to-head with Todd Collins. Gut feeling is that Collins wins it, because Jim Zorn will be more comfortable with Collins should he have to pull Campbell or replace him due to injury.

    He needs to stay away from that Chris Cooley fella, though. No good can come from that… lol.

  51. d1島 July 31, 2009 9:25 am


    Good thing Mac is not coaching baseball!

  52. LizKauai July 31, 2009 9:29 am

    Dirty Commish- no way- you are the real deal!
    All Colt Watches appreciated!


  53. djmitcho July 31, 2009 9:34 am

    J(J), it will be like meeting for the first time because the last time we probably saw each other was over 20 years ago..

  54. labrat July 31, 2009 9:36 am

    I found it entertaining how coach Ault talked about defense. It was like a light bulb came on in his head. A lot of the coaches worked more on special teams in the spring. I also like the new coach at NMS.

  55. Kekoa July 31, 2009 9:44 am

    djmitcho ~ Of course I will defer to the retired DOE administrator on the layover cc plans for next wed.

    Green thingy in my bento Dirty Commish? Taste good with extra Wasabi on top.

  56. d1島 July 31, 2009 9:53 am

    He’s ba-a-a-ack!

  57. Johnny Carson July 31, 2009 9:56 am

    I’m ba-a-a-ack.

  58. (Jesse)James July 31, 2009 10:10 am

    dj…tru dat…

  59. wafan July 31, 2009 10:24 am

    Errands then lunch. See you there!

  60. wafan July 31, 2009 10:24 am


  61. koakane™ July 31, 2009 10:29 am

    day two completed so obligation done. heading out so see yu’all lattas

  62. BG July 31, 2009 11:02 am

    I’ll be there!!!

  63. SteveM July 31, 2009 11:06 am

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    $25 ($10 for late arrivals after 9:00 PM)

    John (las vegas) has placed a $1,000 deposit with balance due soon.
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    By arrangement, food line will be replenished until 9:00 PM.

  64. d1島 July 31, 2009 11:16 am

    Mahalo las vegas!

    You too, SteveM for acting as PR Rep!

  65. d1島 July 31, 2009 11:17 am


    I’m in!

  66. d1島 July 31, 2009 11:31 am

    Well, I’m almost in…

    …actually trying to get out

    …then can get in. 😕

  67. d1島 July 31, 2009 11:48 am

    Must be pretty busy in Manoa about now….

  68. djmitcho July 31, 2009 11:54 am

    Ooh…the blog is gonna be quite for awhile…CC in progress.

  69. d1島 July 31, 2009 11:56 am

    In a prepared release, Weis said:

    Releasing a prepared statement. Hmmm, what a novel idea!

  70. d1島 July 31, 2009 11:57 am


    I know.
    So close…and yet so far!
    (speaking of me, not necessarily you)

  71. A-House July 31, 2009 12:02 pm

    M Golojuch says Coach Mack should give her organization $10,000 – I would not give her a single penny. I think it’s blackmail!

  72. d1島 July 31, 2009 12:13 pm


    That’s the M.O.
    IMO these thypes lay in wait for incidents like yesterday and then their “Cha-ching” alarm goes off.
    Of course, they always say, “It’s not about the money.” which I have learned always means, “It’s ALL about the money.” 👿

    btw, what you having for lunch? (gnash gnash)

  73. d1島 July 31, 2009 12:18 pm

    Wow! Now this takes a pair…

    Through the diligent work of ESPN and our partners here in Hawai’i

    The Sheraton Hawai’i Bowl announced today that individual tickets for the eighth annual Hawai’i Bowl will go on sale at 8:00 am this Friday, July 31st


  74. d1島 July 31, 2009 12:19 pm

    Did anyone let the Irish know?

  75. d1島 July 31, 2009 12:20 pm


  76. LizKauai July 31, 2009 12:30 pm

    Knuckleheads are everywhere today:

    “StephenTsai: Plane pulled up to the wrong gate. Jet bridge won’t connect. Now I know what a jet bridge is called.”

  77. A-House July 31, 2009 12:40 pm


    We had the Makino Chaya bento special for lunch today.

    Bento had 2 kinds of shrimp tempura, fish, goyaza, green salad, mustard noodles, regula noodles, butterfish, pumpkin, nasubi, egg roll, 2 diff kind of dumplings, piece of shoyu daikon, shoyu chicken plus a “side order” of unagi with rice – all for $5.50 PLUS we got a $5.50 coupon for use before 8/15/09, lunch or dinner, in the restaurant.

  78. A-House July 31, 2009 12:43 pm

    LizK # 77:

    what would be the appropirate punishment for the plane captain who pulled up to the wrong gate to deplane passengers?

    here I thought all “jet bridges” could fit any plane – oh well, live and learn something new each day!

  79. LizKauai July 31, 2009 1:00 pm


    Re#79 – first he should apologize, then give money to all the ADA passengers who were offended by the mistake. And then…. pfffft…
    I fly Go! We walk a lot. No jetways, jet bridges, jetsons. Down the stairs and up the stairs…
    sorry- still salty about the backlash…

    Whoosh – HiHO!

  80. Dirty Commish July 31, 2009 1:09 pm

    July 31st, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    M Golojuch says Coach Mack should give her organization $10,000 – I would not give her a single penny. I think it’s blackmail!

    A statement like that makes her lose a bunch of credibility right there. How the H-E-double hockey stick is giving her a bunch of cash supposed to make things better and foster tolerance and warm fuzzy feelings in the state? Having him do a PSA I can understand. But c’mon lady. A blatant money grab like that makes you look like a greedy jerk.

    I’ll go ahead and pre-pay my fine now.

    Here’s 2 cents. Get bent.

  81. A-House July 31, 2009 1:10 pm

    I suppose I am more tolerant of individuals who misspoke because while I was in the Army I got called Jap, slope, venitian blind, etc. by many non-Army types.

    At Columbus, GA, we were denied dinner service because we had a mixed group of 3 whites, 1 black, and me. One would think that a city supported by the military would be more tolerant, but not so. Of course, this was back in 1965.

  82. BIGWAVE96744 July 31, 2009 1:22 pm

    DPK I said I had a sore back, not BrokeBack..

  83. Maverick July 31, 2009 1:26 pm


    Are you serious about the #72 post ?

    Link to that quote, statement, or story?

  84. A-House July 31, 2009 1:38 pm


    Straight out of the HA this morning. It was only one of several things she “demamded” from Coach Mack.

  85. conor July 31, 2009 1:58 pm

    Hawaii Fans:

    Grice-Mullins scores a touchdown on an end-around hand off. Still first quarter. Lets go Ryan!

  86. bb July 31, 2009 1:58 pm

    So Coach Weis released a statement in which part of it states:

    “Weis also noted that as a parent of a daughter with global developmental delays…”

    I am sorry, but just what are “Global developmental delays?”

  87. labrat July 31, 2009 2:07 pm

    Welcome back Coach Mack. I can’t wait to see UH kick the Sugar Bears butt.

  88. LizKauai July 31, 2009 2:20 pm

    GO, RGM!!!

    ditto – labrat… WELCOME BACK, COACH MACK~!

  89. wafan July 31, 2009 2:28 pm

    Stuffed at cc, neice at home, time for nap.


  90. Pomai July 31, 2009 2:45 pm

    Good to meet everyone at the cc, wafan is right time for a nap.

  91. d1島 July 31, 2009 3:04 pm

    That’s a tritto for me! Great cc! Gotta hang on ’til pauhana for da nap! (lillo mo’)

  92. Kekoa July 31, 2009 3:07 pm

    Great to see you again Pomai. Always good to see the loyal followers of the Tsaiko village. CC had some excellent kau kau on line. Supah price for all you can eat Korean style fuud.

  93. d1島 July 31, 2009 3:17 pm


    I went a little “long” there. Sorry….

  94. Garret July 31, 2009 3:18 pm

    Press conference at UH in 6 minutes.

    The meeting among University of Hawaii coach Greg McMackin, UH-Manoa Chancellor Virginia S. Hinshaw and athletic director Jim Donovan has ended.

    McMackin left Hawaii Hall about 1:30 p.m. without speaking to the media.

    UH spokesman Gregg Takayama said the university would hold a press conference with the coach and chancellor at 3:30 p.m. today at the Stan Sheriff Center.

  95. Garret July 31, 2009 3:19 pm

    The press conference will be live on KGMB and on KGMB.com

  96. Garret July 31, 2009 3:21 pm

    Oops, d1shima posted the note about the press conference while I was typing up my post…

  97. Garret July 31, 2009 3:21 pm

    The live feed is at:


  98. Garret July 31, 2009 3:27 pm

    Wow, 30 days without pay *and* the same salary reduction as JD.

  99. Garret July 31, 2009 3:29 pm

    I expected that PSA.

    The University is using some of the money from Mac for a student intern…I wish all would have just been cost savings for the Athletic Department.

  100. Garret July 31, 2009 3:32 pm

    Mac is clearly upset at himself…it is hard to watch him cry.

  101. Garret July 31, 2009 3:33 pm

    Nice to see so many of the players were there to lend their support.

  102. Dirty Commish July 31, 2009 3:38 pm

    Holy crud that was painful to see Coach Mack like that.

    This had better be the end of it. The poor guy suffered so much already.

    You know what Coach? We were Backin’ McMackin when you first took the job and we’re still here for you, buddy. Keep your head up. Plenty of Aloha here for you.

  103. Kekoa July 31, 2009 3:40 pm

    Stephen Tsai ~ One question for the HA staff.

    ➡ Why did they run this particular headline today?

    “UH to hold 3:30 p.m. press conference over coach McMackin’s use of gay slur.”

    “Gay Slur?” I’m sorry but with a better choice of words the local paper of our hometown coach could’ve served to defuse an ugly situation.

    Let’s think for a minute now what other word could they have used?…hmmm…faggot?…Ahhhh no, done that already. ‘Offensive word?’… yeah, much cleaner and sounds like a football term.

    Scoldings to all the HA staff for raising a big stink out of a small fut.

    Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but let’s not use inciteful words in the press to fuel the fire.

  104. NEO July 31, 2009 3:42 pm

    I for one, support Coach McMackin. I am not condoning what he said, and I agree entirely that it was a HORRENDOUS mistake… That being said, as Chancellor Hinshaw and Mr. Donovan said, it’s time to move forward, “making better people of ourselves…: As a player, to see your coach in this most unabashedly vulnerable state would make me want to play harder for him. To perhaps help him put this incident behind him. Was what the Coach said wrong? Horrendously so. Has he apologized for it? Yes, to see a grown man, so ashamed of his action that he brought himself to tears, shows me that he IS apologetic and remorseful. What remains to be seen is how the people respond to the coach’s words… words that yesterday caused so much hurt, and today, have the power to begin to heal.

    For what it’s worth,


  105. Garret July 31, 2009 3:44 pm

    It was smart to mention Mac’s salary reduction…that was probably going to happen anyway, but it was good for confirm that for the first time during the press conference. It added to the list of penalties without actually being a penalty.

  106. Maverick July 31, 2009 3:45 pm

    Thanks A-house & Dirty Commish for your reply on my question earlier.

    Coach Mack, I got ya covered on this blackmail scheme from “Whatz her name”

    I have a huge bag of pennies amounting to the specific $$$ requested.
    I will leave it on her door step in a paper bag, light in fire, ring the bell, and stand there until she approaches, open the door, stomp out the bag on fire, then watch her smell her rubber slipper from the surprise left inside.

    Better than whats inside from a box of Cracker Jacks.

    IMUA Coach Mack.

  107. Garret July 31, 2009 3:47 pm


    I do think that UH handled this quite well and Mac’s obviously sincere apology should help put this issue behind him as soon as possible.

  108. .. July 31, 2009 3:47 pm

    I think certain local media here…are a bunch of (insert word here)…

    in particular….

    The Honolulu Advertiser is top of my list.
    Then one particular B word from KHON
    And one heavily made up B word from KHNL

  109. Garret July 31, 2009 3:49 pm


    The articles I read asked for Mac to donate money to fund a public service announcement, which is very different than extortion…and UH is having Mac do the PSA.

    I didn’t note any mention of the donation to the PSA during the press conference–instead, UH is funding that intern with part of the money from the 30 day suspension.

  110. NEO July 31, 2009 3:50 pm


    It’s shocking to see here that so many people are blaming the media… NO!!! McMackin messed up… He realizes it, apologized, and wants to move on… Let him…


  111. whitey July 31, 2009 3:53 pm

    Faggot or fag, in modern North American word which can be a highly pejorative term, for a gay or effeminate man. Its use has spread to varying extents elsewhere in the English-speaking world.

    A pejorative (also term of abuse or term of disparagement), as a noun, means a word or phrase that implies disapproval or contempt and is meant to be insulting, impolite, or unkind: “A belittling or disparaging word or expression.” When used as an adjective, pejorative is synonymous with derogatory, derisive, dyslogistic, and contemptuous. Standards of politeness limit the use of pejoratives.

    Pejoratives are distinct from profanity, which refers to language that is considered rude; Pejoratives refer more to disapproval and not necessarily rudeness.

    Somewhere along time, the media has nothing better to do than to nitpick stories. The President makes a huge gaff in calling the police “Stupid” and yet the media makes it a good line story because they will have beer together. Coach Mc calls it a faggot dance and loses pay???? I can understand he getting scoldings, but to take it out on him financially, this is stupidity at its highest level. What irks me, is that the HA thinks that an apology is not enough, but you need to kick a guy and grovel over him. This was not a crime, so what’s the issue?????

  112. Garret July 31, 2009 3:53 pm


    I agree with you to some extent, but sometimes a headline can be sensationalized. Most of the time the writer of the article doesn’t write the headline, and sometimes the headline writer really misses the point.

  113. Kekoa July 31, 2009 3:54 pm

    Stephen Tsai ~ One question for the HA staff.

    ➡ Why did they run this particular headline today?

    “UH to hold 3:30 p.m. press conference over coach McMackin’s use of gay slur.”

    “Gay Slur?” I’m sorry but with a better choice of words the local paper of our hometown coach could’ve served to defuse an ugly situation.

    Let’s think for a minute now what other word could they have used?…hmmm…faggot?…Ahhhh no, done that already. ‘Offensive word?’… yeah, much cleaner and sounds like a football term.

    Scoldings to all the HA staff for raising a big stink out of a small fut.

    Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but let’s not use inciteful words in the press to fuel the fire.


    Prior to the announcement of the suspension, Voters on KGMB on-line poll answered “No Punishment Necessary” by over 43%

  114. Kekoa July 31, 2009 4:02 pm

    My apologies to Brew808, I had promised not to say anything more about this incident. I’ll go back to my ceded lands, remain Onipa’a and quietly supportive of my coach.


  115. βρεω808 July 31, 2009 4:03 pm


  116. d1島 July 31, 2009 4:05 pm

    # of flesh extracted.

    Anything else happening in Manoa?

  117. whitey July 31, 2009 4:06 pm

    Coach McMackin, there are many who will stand by you and count me in. You did enough apologizing and you don’t need to do it anymore. If people cannot understand that, just ignore them. If anybody needs to apologize, it is the HA for making this an major issue. You did what you had to do. Thank you for being our coach. Best wishes to you, your family, coaches, and team.

  118. NorthShoreFan July 31, 2009 4:13 pm

    The governator had a better term to use..”girly man” dance might have been more appropriate or no? Same thing? If it’s the same, then Why is Mac gets raked over the coals and the governator not? Governator used the term during a speech addressing the Calif. budget problems and the lack of cajones by the legislature to do things.

    Anyhoo, Mac.. u da man … “one snap and clear”..get our boys ready for combat! This is pau already! Go Warriors!

  119. 702WarriorNation July 31, 2009 4:19 pm

    Thanks for posting the press conf info – I would have missed it.

    I’m glad UH admin took action quickly and decisively whether we agree or disagree with their final decision and action.

    I am sorry for the self inflicted grief Coach Mac been carrying since yesterday – a very long and lonely flight home and not to mentioned the ‘grief’ that Mrs. M and family must be going through too.
    I wish Coach Mac and family well and that we can all put this behind us – it will be a learning experience (controlling on/off field emotions) for all coaches and the members of the team.
    I remain supportive of Coach Mac, his family, coaches and team members. I hope the gay community is able to put this behind and support the actions of the UH Manoa Admin. and work together with them towards a common good for all.

  120. Da Punchbowl Kid July 31, 2009 4:19 pm

    Coach Mac is a good man. Let’s move on.

  121. 702WarriorNation July 31, 2009 4:21 pm

    C-USA to continue with Hawaii Bowl through 2013


  122. letsgowarriors July 31, 2009 4:21 pm

    were the players there to support mack?

  123. Ralph July 31, 2009 4:24 pm

    I guess Tsai missed the UH press conference! more fun at Wendover casino anyway

  124. whitey July 31, 2009 4:28 pm

    ST, what will practice be like next week???? ouch, ouch, ouch!!!!!!!

  125. Dirty Commish July 31, 2009 4:30 pm

    July 31st, 2009 at 4:21 pm
    were the players there to support mack?

    Looks like a good number of them were standing off to the side as the cameras panned across the room.

  126. Pride. July 31, 2009 4:34 pm

    The smell of grass and the smell of leather. Yes, the season is almost here. It’s almost time for football. I know a few tsai-kos who are drooling for some contact.

  127. Chicken Grease July 31, 2009 4:35 pm

    Where is Coach Mac’s First Amendment rights, as well, letsgowarriors? I guess one of the most cherished rights in this great country gets to be thrown out the window with political correctness, no?

    Let’s admit, though, one of Coach Mac’s own cherished ideals, what he tells to his players is (say it with me now, truebelievers): “don’t embarrass the program. Whatever you do, don’t embarrass the program.” And maybe Coach Mac DID embarrass this program with all the hoopla and slow-news (certainly not slow SPORTS news, no? Ortiz, and ONCE A-HECK AGAIN RAMIREZ, ANYBODY?) only too willing to report on the thing.

    I would say Coach Mac should wear a scarlet letter around campus and around the athletic dept. area . . . but, he should wear a big, green H instead! Give another slur to any naysayers: to “H”–l with you!!!!!

    All of this hate against a football coach in the middle of the Pacific. All the while a report comes out on Bloomberg showing that the economy is about twice as worse than expected (source: “Recession Worse Than Prior Estimates, Revisions Show,” Bloomberg.com).

    Hold fast, Coach Mac. Common sense thinkers are with you, man! DOWN WITH POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, WHICH ONLY HIDES, NOT REVEALS!!!!

  128. Maverick July 31, 2009 4:41 pm

    Pride always brings this house back down to the grass roots.

    Tanks eh!

    Let the official countdown begin.

    Tsai, where’s that automatic ticker that belongs on the top of this page?

  129. haka July 31, 2009 4:44 pm

    If the team needed something to bring it together, then let this be the bond to solidify the chemistry and character of this team. They have much more to play for now because they will have to play with an impending barrage of criticism and taunting the rest of the season. They will need to be the one’s who are cool under fire and know that they are the one’s to bring respect back to their program. Take the negative and turn it into a positive for everyone.

    Still Back’in McMackin!
    Go Warriors!

  130. Garret July 31, 2009 4:53 pm

    I’m glad that the Advertiser updated its article and added this. Anyone who read the breaking news earlier would have missed this part.

    Several members of the football team also were in attendance in support of McMackin.

    “Coach is a great guy, I truly believe he is sorry,” UH running back Jayson Rego said.

  131. bstunna2002 July 31, 2009 4:55 pm

    Coach Mac made a mistake I can’t stand seeing these gay and lesbian groups trying to profit from this it makes me sick these people are like vultures. I bet even if Mac said fruity dance these people would find a way to relate it to themselves. no worries Coach I stand beside you 110% those who have met you in person know what kind of guy you really are.

  132. Garret July 31, 2009 4:57 pm

    UH put this up on their website…it is a pretty complete summary of the press conference.

  133. whitey July 31, 2009 4:58 pm

    somehow, looks like some on the HA staff are now running for cover and trying to make the breaking news story a more feel good one like the President and beer.

  134. whitey July 31, 2009 4:59 pm

    but again, beer can get you killed on the darkside.

  135. NYUH July 31, 2009 5:00 pm

    RGM just had a very nice punt return nullified by a penalty. And a few plays before he got tripped up and the pass was intercepted. He got blindsided though and penalty meant that BC soon got the ball back. The damage was done though as several turnovers by others ruined the game for BC. Looks like Hamilton will take it 30-18.

  136. whitey July 31, 2009 5:02 pm

    but again, didn’t UH pay HF after he got fired?????

  137. Jason July 31, 2009 5:05 pm

    Gotta love John Estes’ tweet: We love and support coach Mack, can’t wait to strap it up and go to battle with him.

  138. Da Punchbowl Kid July 31, 2009 5:07 pm

    Beer- MMMMmmmmmMMMMM…

    whitey san-
    Thanks for reminding me. The beer is chillin’, the shots are freezing and the poke is waiting. It’s aloha friday, no work til monday…

    God Bless you Coach Mac.

  139. Pride. July 31, 2009 5:31 pm

    I wish we could strap it up too. Where’s Powder Puff, I wonder if she would let me borrow her helmet. Maybe I can borrow some eye-blck from Kazz. Football baby……..you bet.

  140. Pride. July 31, 2009 5:35 pm

    Hinshaw’s job…run the school.
    Donovan’s job…run the athletic department.
    Mack’s job…coach the football team.
    Pride’s job…support the football team.

    Not my job to judge Mack. Not my job to discipline Mack. Not my job to complain about Mack.

    It is my job to support Mack, his coaches, and the football team.

    Football baby…you bet.

  141. Pride. July 31, 2009 5:36 pm

    Word for the season…Excecute.

  142. whitey July 31, 2009 5:39 pm

    Pride, with hatchet, sword, rope, or guillotine????? hahahahahaaa

  143. Chicken Grease July 31, 2009 5:41 pm

    What’s next? What CAN’T decent people say next? What CAN’T they say amongst those who they supposedly feel comfortable with?

    Those who criticized Obama during the election without even THINKING about his ethnicity? AutoMATICALLY called “racists” by a seeming contrived attack squad — where is THEIR punishment????

    Code Pinkers standing outside of military hospitals where our nation’s finest lay their young lives on the line to ensure our freedom — to watch UH football is but one benefit — yelling, holding signs, TAUNTING our these soldiers — who have more bravery in the skin cells they shed than any of these Code Pinkers would have a mile away from the opportunity to defend this great country — with signs saying that they approve of the murder of U.S. soldiers and signs saying “WAS IT WORTH IT???” WHERE is the punishment for the Code Pinkers?


    NO where

    Because what is free speech is slowly becoming only THEIR speech.

    Fight for your rights people!

  144. letsgowarriors July 31, 2009 5:42 pm

    graham watson is a b*tch.

  145. βρεω808 July 31, 2009 5:44 pm

    #143 Pride.:
    July 31st, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Hinshaw’s job…run the school.
    Donovan’s job…run the athletic department.
    Mack’s job…coach the football team.
    Pride’s job…support the football team.

    Not my job to judge Mack. Not my job to discipline Mack. Not my job to complain about Mack.

    It is my job to support Mack, his coaches, and the football team.

    Football baby…you bet.

    😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen:

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  147. koakane™ July 31, 2009 7:04 pm

    Sitting hear trying to make some sense on UH decision regarding Coach Mac poor judgment. Obviously what he said was in poor taste, bad judgment and inappropriate.

    Why is his consequences worser than those of Herman Fraizer or Coach Bolla? Some one explain to me why they were give bonuses for their errors to the UH while Coach Mac “damages to the institution” as coined by Chancellor Hinshaw is treated like death? Is he being used as a make-up scapegoat for the poor judgment made previously?

    I just don’t get it but like many of the other’s in the 808 with common sense I support Coach Mac 150%. He is our coach and will stand by him. E KU MAU MAU

  148. wafan July 31, 2009 7:17 pm

    Okay, Mack. Go get ’em.

  149. whitey July 31, 2009 7:18 pm

    a word we use everyday is taking a beating and many use it with no understanding of what it means. It means a lot of things, but only those who understand what it is like to treat people the same way you want to be treated will know the word. If you need a hint, it begins with an A

  150. koakane™ July 31, 2009 7:28 pm

    fine time at the cc luncheon set up by jj. congrat to him on an excellent job.

    welcome back to pomai and good to see so many in attendance…homey, kekoa, pops, Juliette, d1, watermelon ralph, mr/mrs midnight, wafan, cureball, bg with all his pains, hiflyer and finally alii pride with his own table. fuud was abundant, conversation plentiful and company outstanding. as usual to much eating and not enough pics taking. as they always say had to be there.

    so the next luncheon is set for djmitcho who will arrive from the PNW

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    Located next to Cabana A below Richardson Field
    Lunch is ala carte, order off the lunch menu
    12:15 to whenever

  151. Garret July 31, 2009 7:31 pm


    I’m completely behind Coach Mac also, but I really think the analogy that you and other posters are making now. How is Mac being punished more than HF or Bolla? Mac is still employed by UH and they are not…wasn’t HF and Bolla losing their jobs even though they were under contract a bigger punishment than a 30-day suspension? I’ll bet that Bolla and HF would have *loved* to take a 30-day suspension and then kept cashing their big contracts…contracts far bigger than they can get now.

    I *love* how UH brought up the 7% pay cut now and a lot of people around the web are adding that towards Mac’s punishment, but all signs were clear that he was going to have to take that pay cut anyway.

  152. GRM July 31, 2009 7:32 pm

    Coach Mac, You were man enough to apologize to alcon. We all know that you’re a great person, a wonderful husband, father grandfather and COACH. One snap and clear. We support you all the way!! Now lets get the team ready.

  153. Garret July 31, 2009 7:34 pm

    I’m glad that the Advertiser has an article up with the player’s reactions. They are being supportive, which is great and hopefully the team will become even closer now. Here is what one of the Warriors said–read the article for all of their reactions.

    Ray Hisatake, senior offensive lineman

    “I was just as emotional as Coach Mac.

    “We all say stupid things and I think Coach Mac really regrets it.

    “Before we went in (into the press conference), we all met with Coach Mac and he was balling.

    “We all feel his pain.”

    “I’ve never seen coach so vulnerable.”

  154. Garret July 31, 2009 7:36 pm

    Mouton was one of the Titans praised after practice today.

    The defense, which dominated the offseason practices, remained in charge Friday.

    Chris Hope had an interception, while fellow defensive backs Ryan Mouton, Vincent Fuller and DaMarcus Faggins were among those producing highlights.

  155. Garret July 31, 2009 7:38 pm

    RGM had good and bad moments in the game today. The team is off to a bad start, which could be bad for RGM if they get a new GM and coach who wishes to clear the roster.

    Once again BC’s head coach pointed to RGM’s mistake as a reason for the loss.

    Rookie Ryan-Grice Mullen typified a Lions team that seemed to take two steps back for every progressive move forward.

    Grice-Mullen had six kickoff returns for 98 yards and his 23-yard punt return at the end of the first half set up a 29-yard field goal by Sean Whyte. Grice-Mullen also scored his first touchdown of the season on a two-yard end around play.

    But he also gave the Tiger-Cats a short field after Grice-Mullen was stripped of the ball on a kickoff return. Scrimmaging from B.C.’s 30-yard line, the Tiger-Cats scored two plays later when Cobb knifed in from 15 yards out for his second touchdown.

    “Mistakes like that, and fumbling at the one-yard line, are the reasons we’re losing, the reasons we’re 1-4,” Buono said.

  156. Garret July 31, 2009 7:39 pm

    This analysis thinks that Bess will keep the punt returning job.

    Can Ted Ginn Jr. regain his role as the Dolphins’ primary returner?

    Ginn was a dynamic kickoff and punt returner at Ohio State, but he’s fizzled in those roles as a pro. At one point last season the Dolphins completely gave up on using Ginn as a returner. Bess handled punt returns for most of the season because of Ginn’s limited quickness, and Cobbs eventually took over as the kickoff returner because the tailback ran into the wedges provided by blockers harder than Ginn. The Dolphins want Ginn to maximize each opportunity, but their preference is for this former first-round pick to master his responsibilities as a starting receiver first.

  157. Da Punchbowl Kid July 31, 2009 7:40 pm

    You are absolutely right my Bruddah KK!

  158. el guapo July 31, 2009 7:42 pm

    It’s ironic that a university, where free speech and differing opinions are not only tolerated but encouraged, is choosing to take these actions due to political pressure.

    There is a public forum area on campus where anyone can say anything they want provided (in true bureaucratic fashion) that they arrange to use the area beforehand, and (I am presuming) don’t incite violence. Had Mac said the same thing there he probably could not be punished although it would be held against him.

    There are faculty members who have said worse and even hateful things in the past, yet did not even get a slap on the wrist.

    From what I have seen in life, good people kick themselves extremely hard when they screw up and allow others to kick them as well. Other individuals who are not good feel that they have done nothing wrong, fight their punishment, and as a result do not suffer the consequences that they deserve.

  159. Garret July 31, 2009 7:46 pm

    el guapo,

    I felt so badly for Mac at the press conference today. He sure didn’t sound like someone who felt he was being punished too harshly…he definitely seemed upset with his unfortunate choice of words and was remorseful. Only a truly good person could feel that badly about a poor choice of words.

    It almost made me feel that Mac welcomed the punishment, that he felt so badly that he might have suggested part of his punishment or even asked for the punishment to be increased in some way…

  160. Garret July 31, 2009 7:48 pm

    Anyway, I’m done with this issue now and look forward to the start of practice. It really is too bad that we aren’t getting many stories about Estes and Brashton from the media that interviewed them yesterday because almost all of the media reports were about the controversy.

  161. el guapo July 31, 2009 7:54 pm


    I haven’t seen it yet, but that’s what I mean about good people kicking themselves. A 30-day suspension is shocking to me, and sounds much harsher than anything I would have expected.

  162. Dennis Halloran July 31, 2009 7:59 pm

    Coach, just Coach All those who have never f—-d up keep quibbling

  163. βρεω808 July 31, 2009 8:00 pm

    July 30th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    …I’m done posting these articles….

    July 31st, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    Anyway, I’m done with this issue now ….

    I suppose there’s done… ♫ ♪ ♫ 😯 :roll:,
    and there is
    D O N E !!! 😈

  164. βρεω808 July 31, 2009 8:02 pm

    … there’s done… ♫ ♪ ♫ 😯 🙄 ,
    and there is
    D O N E !!! 😈 😯 😈

  165. koakane™ July 31, 2009 8:09 pm


    my final comment is this. I think the pay cut was harsh while we paid off others who exhibited poorer judgments and damaged UH worser than the derogatory remarks which coach Mac made. If privately suggested and Mac take a voluntary pay cut or make a money offering to the UH LGBT community on his own then it would seem he exhibited true remorse. he should have been given this opportunity to decide. it seems he was ordered to do it and the UH is trying to right some previous wrong. I do not agree with how the UH handed down their consequence.

    But like you I still support Mac and will attend all the games. Go Warriors.

  166. koakane™ July 31, 2009 8:18 pm

    sorry gangie and nuff said

    so howww youuuuuuuuuu

    be sure to check out next week cc for djmitcho in post 153

  167. Admr in Manoa July 31, 2009 8:26 pm


    IIRC, Coach was NOT going to “have to take that pay cut anyway.” He has a contract, so the reduction is with his agreement to do so.

    We are seeing the dark side of the “power of the press” under its “First Amendment right. Just keep in mind they are also setting the standard for themselves — so no faux pas by them too going forward.

    Elephants never forget. The only problem is when the press, like HA, mess up — the retraction is in small print — on the back pages. Maybe one of these days, one of their editors will step up to the mike and admit their screw up? Does the moon turn “green”?

  168. Kazz July 31, 2009 8:30 pm

    Just watched the press conference and I pains me to see Coach Mack in such agony… GENUINE AGONY.

    Coach Mack,

    If you are lurking tonight, I just want to say the REAL fans love you, the REAL fans support you, and the REAL fans respect who you are as the coach of our football team and a representative of the program.


  169. Kazz July 31, 2009 8:33 pm

    Hmmm.. who’s the wonderful people at “Brand X” that “tastefully” placed a graphic of a zipper on Coach Mack’s mouth?

    Pffffffttttt…. Beer league tabloid tactics to sell papers if you ask me… 🙄

  170. LizKauai [iMac] Unite and Conquer! July 31, 2009 8:42 pm

    😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen:


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  171. LizKauai [iMac] Unite and Conquer! July 31, 2009 8:43 pm

    Well, that didn’t work…
    I’ll leave the art to brew…

  172. LizKauai [iMac] Unite and Conquer! July 31, 2009 8:45 pm

    brand x- pffffft. They can zip it… That’s why I do not read that rag…

  173. wafan July 31, 2009 8:45 pm

    Liz . . .

    HA! or Oops!

  174. βρεω808 July 31, 2009 8:46 pm

    🙄 amateurs… 😆

  175. gmahoney July 31, 2009 8:49 pm

    I’ve been reading the comments from the article in the HA. Most are supportive of Coach, as they should be. Can we be done with this and move on? Are you ready for some football? I am!

    As Auntie Liz said “One snap and clear.”

  176. wafan July 31, 2009 8:53 pm

    Another reliable print media daily exists on Oahu?

  177. wafan July 31, 2009 8:54 pm

    Liz . . .

    Mail call!

  178. Garret July 31, 2009 9:08 pm

    I can’t remember if Liz posted this already, but just in case here is a Colt mention.

    While backup quarterbacks Todd Collins and Colt Brennan have made their share of nice throws, neither is a threat to starter Jason Campbell. Zorn spends more time with Brennan because the second-year man needs more coaching… and maybe because Brennan could wind up starting in 2010 if Campbell leaves as a free agent. Collins will turn 39 that November — not exactly prime time for an NFL starter.

  179. Garret July 31, 2009 9:09 pm

    Free play link time. Please ignore my next 5 posts if you do not want to read the off-topic stuff.

    Nasal vaccine developed for the swine flu, with Medimmune expecting to make as many as 200 million doses by March.

  180. Garret July 31, 2009 9:10 pm

    Text messages appear on mobile phones without any interaction from the user and may have just limited interference from the cellular network operators, so criminals can use it as a way to break into cell phones. This was demonstrated on iPhones, Android phones, and Windows Mobile phones yesterday. Even security conscious users cannot protect themselves from clever text message attacks. For example, it was demonstrated that a hacker can disconnect an iPhone from the cellular network by sending a single malicious text message that the victim never actually sees!

  181. Garret July 31, 2009 9:11 pm

    Anti-theft software built into many laptops at the factory (even uninstalling the operating software won’t delete it!) in the BIOS opens a serious security hole. So, users don’t know that the software is there and cannot stop criminals from taking over their computer!

  182. Garret July 31, 2009 9:11 pm

    The RIAA won another file-swapping court case–downloading 30 songs on Kazaa will result in millions of dollars in penalties.

  183. Garret July 31, 2009 9:11 pm

    32-story Florida condo has just *1* tenant! They say that it can be spooky living in such a deserted place.

  184. Garret July 31, 2009 9:11 pm

    Free play links pau.

  185. Garret July 31, 2009 9:17 pm

    Ohio State fan is suing because their football stadium’s scoreboard and the TVs in the stadium are not close captioned. I hope nobody sues Aloha Stadium for this…

    A hearing-impaired Ohio State University football fan has sued the school, arguing that the university should offer captioning on the scoreboard and stadium televisions because he can’t hear the announcers.

    The suit says the university is violating the Americans With Disabilities Act by not providing captioning at all its venues, including Ohio Stadium, Schottenstein Center and St. John Arena.

    The suit seeks captioning for everything from referee calls to song lyrics. It also seeks an unspecified amount of compensatory damages.

  186. Garret July 31, 2009 9:27 pm

    Wow, they are really increasing the number of events that will be available for purchase via streaming video from Oceanic!

    Road Runner Warrior Online allows you to see many University of Hawaii athletic events live from any computer in the world! RRWO provides high-quality streaming at Cable speeds, giving you a TV-like experience conveniently on your PC or laptop.**

    If you live in the state of Hawaii, you need to be connected to a Road Runner modem to use the video streaming service. Individuals on the mainland or anywhere else in the world, do not need to be connected to a Road Runner modem. If you live in Hawaii and would like to subscribe to Road Runner internet service, please call 643-2337.

    Road Runner Online gives you live streaming video of 87* full games for the following 2008 – 2009 UH athletics home events:

    * 6 UH Warrior Football games from Aloha Stadium
    * 20 UH Wahine Volleyball games from Stan Sheriff Center
    * 18 UH Warrior Basketball games from Stan Sheriff Center
    * 18 UH Warrior Volleyball games from Stan Sheriff Center
    * 25 UH Warrior Baseball games from Les Murakami Stadium

  187. Garret July 31, 2009 9:28 pm

    The only thing that worries me is that they still haven’t changed this policy:

    Ordering is available 1 hour before the event.

  188. Garret July 31, 2009 9:34 pm

    Q&A with Destin Stewart.

    What classes did you take? What are you majoring in at Hawaii?

    English writing and English reading. I just wanted to get a little head start before I went out there and get some credits out of the way early. I’m planning on majoring in sports medicine. It’s just something I think I’d enjoy. I don’t want to get stuck doing a job that I don’t like for the rest of my life.

    Do you think you’ll get a chance to play right away in Hawaii?

    I think I’m ready for the football part of it and I’d like to. At the same time, I think it might be better to redshirt just to get adjusted to college and take things slow like that. But I think I’m ready to play.

  189. Edward July 31, 2009 9:37 pm

    What exactly is coach McMackin being suspended from? Are not suspensions usually with or without pay? If he is suspended with pay, does that mean he can volunteer to coach as long as gives up his pay? And, if the suspension is without pay, and the coach can “volunteer” to coach the team, what is he suspended from? Perhaps Jim Donovan can explain.

  190. Kazz (blkberry_storm) July 31, 2009 9:53 pm


    Coach Mack won’t be fired.

  191. Ralph July 31, 2009 9:54 pm

    he is suspended as a paid coach of the Warriors for one month, but he can volunteer to coach the team without pay or benefits and the administration won’t object.

  192. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc July 31, 2009 9:59 pm

    Two items – one sports-related and the other personal.

    The latter first: DrDoc leaves Wednesday evening to attend his mother’s memorial service on Friday. He will be on the road almost 20 real time hours from the time he checks in to when he arrives in Chattanooga by bus around 9 pm EDT Thursday evening after flying into Atlanta around 5 pm.

    We want to take a lei to drape around his mother’s picture. What would folks here recommend that would be beautiful and yet hold up for a grueling cross-country trip with a three-hour stop-over in Phoenix along with the 2 hour-plus bus ride?

    Also, is Braddah Iz’s “Somewhere Over the Rainbow” available as a single? If it isn’t, then we’ll buy the CD.

    SPORTS STUFF: DrDoc and I are coordinating a HI-5 SaveOurSchools Redemption Drive at Makiki District Park tomorrow (Saturday) from 9 am to 12 noon. All proceeds will be split equally between McKinley and Kaimuki High Schools’ Athletic Departments to help underwrite the costs of transporting teams to games & tournaments.

    If you live in urban Honolulu and have some HI-5 cans & bottles to donate, please drop them off. We’ll also have a special collection jar for folks who want to donate money directly.

    Hope to see some of you there.

    BTW – we’re doing something for Kailua, Kalaheo and Castle High Schools in late October – and will be working with community leaders all across O`ahu. Our goal is to raise money for all 22 public high schools by the end of 2009..

  193. LizKauai [iMac] Unite and Conquer! July 31, 2009 10:04 pm

    W-Doc: Take an eyelash yarn lei and a ti-leaf lei that looks like maile. They will hold up.

    Music is available on iTunes as a single. Or you can even capture from YouTube.

    Warmest aloha to Dr. Doc and his ohana!

  194. Stephen Tsai July 31, 2009 10:05 pm

    They should have said that Mack was fined since he’s not really being suspended.

  195. LizKauai [iMac] Unite and Conquer! July 31, 2009 10:13 pm

    Hi ST- are you back?

  196. Kekoa July 31, 2009 10:17 pm

    ST ~ Edward brings up an important point. Can you clarify for us. Tks.

  197. Curt July 31, 2009 10:19 pm

    Howzit ST,

    Is the 7% pay reduction part of the fine or is it Coach Mac’s voluntary pay cut to help with budget issues?

  198. Kekoa July 31, 2009 10:22 pm

    Safe travel Jim. Warmest Aloha to you and your Ohana.

  199. tommui July 31, 2009 11:12 pm

    Not to be labor the point but …

    Let the punishment fit the crime.

    But it would seem to me that if the salary is 1.2M a year, it would be a “fine” of $100,000. The Coach said before this fiasco that he was going to take a 7% reduction in pay to help the UH deficit which would be around $84,000.

    Obviously with the light fines people get for driving drunk, for assault and battery, larceny etc, the punishment here does NOT fit the crime.

    In our haste to get this event behind us. we certainly have over reacted in the nature of punishment given.

  200. Pomai July 31, 2009 11:21 pm

    So I guess that free speech only applies to certain people and I guess that coach isn’t one of them. Funny when the same people who are making stink use derogatory words that’s OK.

  201. al July 31, 2009 11:29 pm

    well put tom.

    punitive damages of $184,000 are preposterous and absurd in this case. i realize some kind of monetary hand slap was due but not this much.

    hey, i got two chili peppers in my mouth for swearing at my dad.

  202. whitey July 31, 2009 11:36 pm

    thank you conselor. exactly what i said and feel. there was no crime committed, so why is he being punished worse than a criminal???

  203. al July 31, 2009 11:37 pm

    pomai….in this case. coach mack is not only the leader of our football program but the leader by his example. and that day he did not lead by example as his example was not to be duplicated.

    he represents all of us as well. i am sure his intent was not as it turned out to be but in his attempt to deliver some levity it backfired. so many other words could have spewed from his lips, “girlie, sissy, cute, etc” and he would have been okay.

    but, in any event his penance was too severe i thought. it almost leads me to believe that it was mack who suggested the penalty imposed this day.

  204. al July 31, 2009 11:39 pm

    hey whitey. er, nanook. how was the catch this trip?

    your ear was itchy today?
    some guy was talking about you again.

  205. al July 31, 2009 11:42 pm

    and tom….good news, bad news for you.

    well, first the good news. i believe last week i found another of those “2 bit pieces” you so coveted.
    the bad news, the boss took it from this bin i had it in and used it at some local merchant.


  206. Curt July 31, 2009 11:45 pm

    It’s my opinion that the Chancellor over reacted on the punishment…especially since it was inadvertent and a first-time occurence.

  207. Ralph July 31, 2009 11:54 pm

    i believe all sanctions came from Donovan, he forwarded his findings and his recommendations to Hinshaw who then accepted his decision.

  208. Curt July 31, 2009 11:55 pm

    Howzit Al. Hope you’re doing well.

    Time to hit da hay. Good night and have a nice weekend everyone.

  209. BowsForever August 1, 2009 12:10 am

    I think the worst is over for Coach Mack now. I’m still 100% behind him and I’m confident he’ll make the most of his second chance.

    I hate to say it but it could’ve been worse. On the bright side, he’ll become a better person for this experience, and could also help benefit his team (no more trash talking, needless celebrations, more pure focus on the game and playing for the team and the state)

  210. Greg Taylor August 2, 2009 1:18 am

    Sorry but a 30 day suspension is just a slap on the wrist. A 60 day suspension would really make heads role. Revenue from football supports women and minor sports at U.H. The school needs wins to pack the stadium and financially support the athletic department. Mack is a great coach, but watch what you say when it is recorded and played back a thousand times.

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