Tight end commits to UH

Josh Long of Riverside College said he has accepted a football scholarship from the Warriors.

Long is 6-4 and 240.

He said he expects to enroll at UH in January.

* * * * * *

The Warriors arrive back in town this afternoon with little free time. Practices resume tomorrow in preparation for Saturday’s road game against Fresno State.

So, yes, the Warriors have several problems. But since it’s Sunday, heck, here are some of the bright spots:

โ€ข Marrell Jackson was recruited for his speed and football IQ. He has emerged as a hard-hitting, downhill-moving safety. His kick-blocking is a bonus.

โ€ข During practices, the coaches often have to encourage outside linebacker Jerrol Garcia-Williams to not try to knock down everyone in his way. During games, he is given the green light. He’s a solid tackler. When he gains more weight, he’ll be a star.

โ€ข Placekicker Tyler Hadden is quietly having a solid season. In a season of much uncertainty, the Warriors are fortunate to have a reliable kicker.


  1. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 12:19 am


  2. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 12:20 am

    well, we found a safety.

  3. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 12:31 am

    patriots Vs rams in london today. blows to be them.

  4. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 28, 2012 12:33 am


  5. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 12:37 am

    4. you have the best screen name lol

  6. Ben A Lurker October 28, 2012 12:41 am

    Top Ten. Go Warriors. Hang in their coach!

  7. papajoe2 October 28, 2012 12:41 am

    top 10. Good morning.

  8. SteveM October 28, 2012 1:00 am

    Looks like we’ll still have HNL airport this afternoon.

    …and some warmth and light if the sun rises…

    Good night everyone!

    See you on the flip flop. We gone!

  9. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 1:08 am

    i think stevem watches duck dynasty.

  10. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 1:10 am

    …. he gone! lol

  11. westwind October 28, 2012 1:20 am

    I too think that Coach Chow will not be able to sustain a second year of losses like 2012. The corrupt Administration with the BOR would find it hard to retain a football coach that has alienated himself from the fans. Can you imagine what the season ticket sales will be? Especially, when the coach stubbornly insists on keepinng his choice of QB which contributes to a 1-6 record. And yet SS is his man. This could yet end up being a 1-11 season. With poor season ticket sales and poor stadium attendance a decision would have to be made. Do we keep him or go in another direction. (Doesn’t this sound familiar?) MRC Greenwood could tell FR to tell his friend to retire/resign.

    Who the heck decided to bring this guy here?……..RF? Ever wondered why with his experience he was never hired as a head coach. Even being a successful OC does not in any way guarantee you will be a good head coach. How many of you think HAWAII will be able to recruit 4 and 5 Star athletes? Not very many. Therefore, it ain’t going to happen.ro

  12. SDbowfan October 28, 2012 1:38 am

    We are stuck with Chow for 5 years. We cannot fire him and pay Mac’s remaining salary. Therefore, whatever JJ built will be gone soon.

  13. Bulla October 28, 2012 2:03 am

    Get some rest Warriors….going to the Dog Pound you will need every ounce of energy….. hope everyone survived the tsunami…. better safe than sorry ๐Ÿ™‚

  14. George October 28, 2012 2:19 am

    Well, what the heck does everyone expect? Chow is running a system based on talent that he can get another program. Hawaii just can’t get that kind on talent.

    JJ knew that, and yeah, his offense was gimmicky, but we were winning. It was fun to see.

    We need to bring in Rolo, and JJ can come in to help in a semi-retired status.

  15. gigi-hawaii October 28, 2012 2:53 am

    Yeah, this game was horrible to watch. I felt like I was on a roller coaster ride. Sad day for Chow, Schroeder, and the rest of the team. But, chin up, fellas. It ain’t over til it’s over.

  16. POCOLOCO October 28, 2012 2:58 am

    Wait, Colt Brennan is now an assistant QB mentor at a FREAKIN’ HIGH SCHOOL TEAM? What a football failure ๐Ÿ™

  17. Garret October 28, 2012 3:11 am

    Sagarin ratings for the MWC and other UH opponents:

    32 Boise State (the SOS of the MWC is killing their ranking)

    54 Fresno State

    67 San Diego State

    83 Air Force

    85 Nevada

    95 New Mexico

    121 Colorado State

    131 UNLV

    140 Wyoming

    166 Hawaii

    19 USC

    56 BYU

    154 South Alabama (bottom of the Sun Belt Conference)

    188 Lamar (bottom of the Southland Conference)

  18. Garret October 28, 2012 3:17 am

    On a positive note, Chad Owens is having a record-setting season and his team clinched a playoff spot. I like this quote about Chad from his coach:

    โ€œChadโ€™s not just a difference-making player, but heโ€™s an elite player. Thatโ€™s what he is,โ€™โ€™ Als head coach Marc Trestman said. โ€œHe has all this athleticism, but a lot of guys do.

    โ€œWhat separates Chad is that heโ€™s an elite competitor. Heโ€™s got no quit in him. He plays hard with a real sense of confidence you require to play at this level. Thatโ€™s how weโ€™ve known him and heโ€™s continued to grow.โ€


  19. Kekoa October 28, 2012 3:20 am

    Good morning village people!

    It’s Sunday. Ke Akua has delivered us from the evil Tsunami. I prefer to praise him for allowing us to escape the wrath of what may have been a real disaster. The loss of a FB game pales in comparison.

    Oh, and whiners…how about letting the coaches work their problems out with their team, and just stay out of the way. Why would they pay any attention to anything you had to say anyway?

  20. Garret October 28, 2012 3:37 am

    Reading through the Colorado papers, Colorado State sure had a ton of injuries also. The 2 pick-6 INTs were both by freshman.

  21. wafan October 28, 2012 3:39 am

    Good Sunday!

  22. wafan October 28, 2012 3:40 am

    Happy to see Hawai’i, Tsai-kettes, and Tsai-kos are safe.

    You are allowed to deflate your arm-floaties.

    Yeah, even the trolls.

  23. Garret October 28, 2012 3:41 am

    Colorado State sure has an attendance problem. When you consider that they were losing by 10+ points every other game this season at halftime and this time they were *winning* at halftime, I don’t understand why some of the few fans that bothered to show up left at halftime!

    Official attendance was 16,573, but it didnโ€™t seem like there was more than 12,000.

    Itโ€™s hard to blame the casual CSU fan for not wanting to come out. Itโ€™s cold and this team entered the game with a 1-6 record and is playing a lackluster foe like Hawaii. Then again, the Rams are playing Hawaii. Itโ€™s the perfect chance, maybe even the last, for fans to witness a win.

    What was most shocking to me was how many fans made the weekly mass exodus to Overland Trail at halftime. If CSU is losing, I get it, but the Rams are up by seven and all I can see out to the east is tail lights.

    Itโ€™s too bad. Even if it was against Hawaii, CSU played a great game. Hats off to the Rams.


  24. wafan October 28, 2012 3:42 am

    Storm on the East.

    Earthquakes, possibly, on the West.

    Droughts in the center.

  25. subdued October 28, 2012 4:00 am

    I agree with SAWARRIOR, “we found a safety”. Marrell Jackson has definitely been one of the bright spots on the Dfense.

    What happened to #9 Poueu-Luna? Noticeably reduced to just ST. Kid also has speed and had a strong Spring, Summer and was one of the early season starters. Browsing through stats, he had 14 total tackles going into game 5, He leads the DB’s in TFL and in Sacks with 2 and has the season high for Average Rushing Yards on a solo carry of 36 yards? (oh the Fake Punt play) Is he injured? Maybe he too in “Graves” dog house.

    Mike Sellers anybody? Really had hoped to see him contribute more this year too.

    Man, saw Schroeders stats for Rushing, not so good:

    With 7 games under his belt on 32 attempts, he is -97 yards -3.03 average. Passing Rate is 51.4%, 9 TD’s and 8 INT’s. Got to give credit to the kid for obviously knowing he is under fire but he gets up everyday and moves on.

    Finally, a most interesting stat was WE HAVE NO TOUCHDOWNS FOR RB’s.

  26. AfWarriorFan69 October 28, 2012 4:01 am

    Mr. Tsai…you headlined, “UH must stop run, create turnovers”. From what I heard on the Internet radio (no streaming…way to go Oceanic), we accomplised this. You where there and probaly closest to the team as anyone; where we really that bad? Also, is coach Chow reconsidering his choice for QB? Is coach Chow also taking blame? After all its his team. Also, why aren’t we playing our strenghts? That’s what great leaders do..adjust. Again, are we that bad?

    Perhaps you should have headlined, “We must score!”

    -Signed…Frustrated Fan

  27. subdued October 28, 2012 4:05 am

    Im with AfWarriorFan69, i’ll take an answers from Mr. Tsai too. It’s got to come from somebody………………………

  28. AlaWai October 28, 2012 4:25 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka, Hawai`i nei! Blessings on the Warriors for an all-out effort. Defense is something to build on. Time to breakdown film for the Dawgs.

  29. d1shima October 28, 2012 4:31 am

    Great Morning All!

    Frustrating loss but statistically there’s more than a few “silver linings”

    – 193 yards rushing

    – 25-16 edge in First Downs

    – 4.1 yds per rush attempt

    -393-291 edge in Total Offense

    – 93-52 edge in offensive plays

    – fewer penalties and penalty yards

    – 36 to 24 minute edge in time of possession

    – two productive running backs, 84 and 108 yards gained

    Keep doing those things and:

    – limit turnovers

    – improve sack production

    – improve RedZone productivity

    Git ‘er done!


  30. d1shima October 28, 2012 4:32 am


    56 – 14 d1shima

  31. Garret October 28, 2012 4:38 am

    The post-game quotes aren’t on UH’s website, but they are available from Colorado State’s website.

    From Paipai:

    โ€œWe had a team meeting last night and I told my teammates that we had to start taking advantage of everything that we can. You never know when itโ€™s our last game of football. We lost a teammate who will never be able to play again, so I keep pressing these guys that weโ€™ve got to take advantage of every opportunity we have and to play to the best of our abilities.โ€


  32. Garret October 28, 2012 4:41 am

    Unhappy with their play calling in the red zone, Coach Chow said:

    โ€œThey should have been a little bit more creative down by the goal line, instead of just trying to pound it in there. We tried a couple pounding it in there, things like that. We ran the ball pretty well the first half and thought we could continue to do so, but they toughened up and we lost a couple of yards.โ€


    Isn’t Coach Chow calling the plays? He seems to be backing away from the play calling and referring to “they” calling the red zone plays.

  33. d1shima October 28, 2012 4:52 am

    SA quotes it differently.

    Chow, who calls the offensive plays, said he regretted some of his choices.

    “There were questionable coaching decisions that I’ll kick myself in the butt for,” Chow said.

    Pressed for specifics, Chow said: “I should have been a little more creative down close to the goal line instead of trying to pound it in there. Things like that. We ran the ball pretty well in the first half, and I thought we could continue to do so, but (the Rams) tightened up.”


  34. wafan October 28, 2012 4:54 am

    Garret . . .

    Mr. Tsai’s article quotes Mr. Chow, “I should have . . .”

  35. wafan October 28, 2012 4:55 am

    Oops. The curse of lazy one-fingered typing while watching a Bob Hope movie.

  36. d1shima October 28, 2012 4:59 am

    Road to Perfidia?

    Maybe Hope and Crosby didn’t do that one….

  37. wafan October 28, 2012 5:02 am

    “Call Me Bwana”

    Last night should have been called “Call Me Perplexed”.

  38. Hendo October 28, 2012 5:03 am

    What I feel I am seeing in the 6 horrific losses by our team, meets the proverbial definition of insanity. You know, continually doing the same thing that got you into this mess in the first place.

  39. just saying October 28, 2012 5:10 am

    Defense finally gives us a chance to win the game, but same old story , no offense. But coach chow will not change his quaterback or his scheme.I guess we might have a chance to win 1 game this season. Feel really bad for the other quaterbacks who doesnt have a chance to play. If I where them I would transfer out to another school.Shroeder is a tough guy, but that doesnt make him a good quaterback. Chows offense is one dimensional and easy to defend, Just stop the run up the middle and force them into third and long and sack the quaterback.All the other teams have a mobile quaterback that scrambles to make a big play, which makes them harder to defend and we wont know if we have that type of quaterback because they wont have a chance to show what they got or tweak the offense to their stregnths.

  40. d1shima October 28, 2012 5:19 am

    With Iosefa and Gregory now available, it may be time for Hekili and Uila!

  41. homegrown October 28, 2012 5:42 am

    marrel jackson developing to be 1 heck of a player..thought brendan daley (the linebacker) played a good game too.

  42. caverta October 28, 2012 6:06 am

    I agree with your points , wonderful post.

  43. d1shima October 28, 2012 6:08 am

    Never heard it described this way before!





    You’re welcome!


  44. Shoko October 28, 2012 6:15 am

    Tried to search for a postgame press conference, but only found what had already been posted on yesterdays blog. That video, unfortunately, was very bad as it was drowned out by alot of background noise. I could have sworn there is another press conference with the coach, players and media asking questions in a press room void of any background noise. I’ll continue to search for it and post it on here if I do find.

  45. lurker Ron October 28, 2012 6:15 am

    I don’t mind watching this team grow. I do object to the color man praising the other teams players on every play. Bring back Pops! Just kidding.

  46. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 6:19 am

    Ohayoooooooooooooooooogozaimasu, you fine people!!!!

    Looks like we made it.

    – Barry Manilow

  47. kev-1 October 28, 2012 6:39 am

    I know that people here don’t like to be critical of players, but here is something to consider for all of those who tell people “it’s not Schroeder’s fault:”

    He consistently puts the ball on the opposite side of its target, forcing the receivers to make difficult catches when they are unnecessary – go back and watch. When they miss, people like to blame the receivers while they continue to support Schroeder.

    He often steps into pressure – go back and watch. Yes, our oline needs to improve, so I don’t put this all on Schroeder. But, he lacks that clock in his head and seems to have poor peripheral vision. Crucial play in the 4th Quarter, the olinemen had his man sealed to the outside, Schroeder thought his pocket was broken and stepped up a few steps. This enabled the defender to change his angle on the lineman and get the sack. But people continue to support Schroeder while they knock the oline.

    Yes, our receivers are having difficulty finding separation from defenders, but when they do, they are very frequently over thrown – go back and watch. Yet, again, while people continue to back Schroeder, we are coming down on our receivers.

    My point here is this: if it is not fair to bash Schroeder and call for a change, then why is it fair to do the same for other position players?

    IMO, there needs to be a change. I trust Coach Chow and his vision, but I personally feel that he has written off this season (like most have), and a coach shouldn’t do that. Your objective should be to win games. If making a position change might mean a win, you should do it. Let’s not forget the frequent position changes that have been made to other players, yet Schroeder seems to have the golden ticket. Perfect example – one bad game agains USC, and Grimes lost his starting job.

  48. kev-1 October 28, 2012 6:42 am

    As a fan, I am very disappointed in the offense not capitalizing on all of those turnovers. Those are things that kill teams on the field and in the locker room. You could not ask for any more from your defense than that.

  49. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 6:47 am


    October 28th, 2012 at 6:39 am

    But people continue to support Schroeder while they knock the oline.

    A Grease thinks the line needs to do a better job to help a Schroeder. Not gonna tell Coach what to do, though.

    GO WARRIORS!!!!!!!

    # # #

  50. Janusz October 28, 2012 6:50 am

    Chow has a 5 year deal ???? Oh my we in trouble!

  51. Buffoman October 28, 2012 7:07 am

    I was and still am a big Timmy Chang fan. But that man had some pretty horrible games and when that occurred, even though Timmy was JJ’s QB, JJ pulled him for the game and had another try his hand at guiding the team.

    Okay, so SS is Chow’s QB, but at some point why does he not pull SS who is struggling and give another a shot. Hey, if the next guy(s) are totally unable to run the offense, at least we’ll all really know why Chow is sticking with SS.

    At this point, if he says he wants to be creative, why not start with something that really runs against his grain…changing his QB.

  52. Whats up October 28, 2012 7:09 am

    Sean Schroeder lacks the play making ability, he needs to run when the play is not happening. His lacks mobility like David Graves could have given the offense. Sean has a good arm but was not accurate yesterday and many times I seen his inaccurate throws this season. Now some of that was the receivers dropping balls too but thrown it too high or behind receivers is the QB fault. Sean is not a great runner so he has to rely on his arm and needs to fix his accuracy. But does need to run to at times to keep the defense honest and not sitting back covering receivers. The wildcat is not the answer for the lack of a mobile QB because the defense knows your going to run the ball most of the time in the wildcat. If Sean continues to be inaccurate might as well put in Graves at least he can run and throw and that just might be the combo this offense needs. Plus I think Graves has the play maker gene in him and Sean hasn’t displayed it yet. Sean is steady but predictable and needs develop the killer instinct like a Peyton and Eli Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Breed and Aaron Rodgers. This guys are pocket passers that will accurately pick you apart and scamper a little and step on your throat. They have the play maker gene and killer instinct to lead and win and that’s what’s missing from Sean right now.

    Now I think Kaumeyers defense gave up too many big plays again yesterday. They did well against a really bad team in Colorado State but Fresno, Boise and other teams are going to have field day against Kaumeyers defensive scheme. He needs to adjust the man to man attacking blitzing style and play zone D a little more and keep the plays in front of the defense sometimes.

    Again Hawaii had too many turnovers and need to clean it up. The penalties didn’t help either. Chow has a lot of work to do and does deserve all the blame since he is the head coach. But its still early in the coaching transition period so I’m not panicking yet. I’m giving Chow the same consideration and time that McMackin had, 4 seasons. But year 3 better be a winning season at the very least.

  53. 3-Prong October 28, 2012 7:19 am

    As Dorothy would say “Fresno and Boise and Air Force, oh my!”…..

  54. Shoko October 28, 2012 7:21 am

    I think we should accept the fact that Chow is not going to make changes at the QB position. Unless Schroeder gets hurt, we should expect him to finish out the season; as difficult as that may be.

  55. obachan October 28, 2012 7:26 am

    From another angle: If I were a high school QB being recruited by UH, I’d have second thoughts about coming here since I would likely not see any game playing time unless I was the #1 QB.

  56. kev-1 October 28, 2012 7:31 am

    Grease, I agree, which is why I started that comment by saying the oline needed to improve. But there are some people that think it is unfair to hold Schroeder accountable, but will throw everyone else under the bus.

  57. kev-1 October 28, 2012 7:33 am

    #51 Buffoman . . . EXACTLY

  58. lava October 28, 2012 7:34 am

    Misuse of players seems to be Chow’s signature.

    When Schroeder consistently completes only about 50% of his passes, we have no chance of winning. He is terrible. The lack of production out of Stutzman and Miah falls on him.

    Graves is a great athlete. I’m not even sure if he sees the field this year.

    Grimes is another guy who was totally misused.

    Vele may be the worst move of all. He may so many plays at LB in high school, he seems like a natural. To then recruit less athletic LBs out of Utah is insulting.

  59. madeinhawaii October 28, 2012 7:39 am

    Our previous coaches knew how to create mismatches in favor of our Warriors against the opponent’s players. Our Coaches today seem to create the mismatches the other way. ;-(

  60. kev-1 October 28, 2012 7:51 am

    The defensive turnovers should do something for their confidence. They need to continue to get better against the run, like they did in the second half. I have more confidence in the defense than I did before. Although, it was against a struggling team. So, we’ll see.

  61. kev-1 October 28, 2012 8:03 am

    19 for 46, 3 INT

    No plans to change quarterback.

    The least they could do is bring in Temple and help them get their bowl game.

  62. wowlaulau October 28, 2012 8:09 am

    #61 sad to hear your head fell off … It maybe a good idea to go find it ….

  63. Hank October 28, 2012 8:26 am

    More bright spots…

    -I think Brendan Daley played like the light went on and earns a start against the Fresno puppies.

    -Paipai was all over the field last night and is having a solid senior season.

    -Iosefa’s return makes a difference. We can build on that if he stays healthy.

    -Ben Clarke and Mike Milovale are coming along. They’ll be studs next year.

  64. Bigislandkurt October 28, 2012 8:36 am

    CHANGE DA QUARTERBACK!!!!! Give your boys a chance to win please Coach! Truthfully, how can you look your defense in the eye after that foul-scented second half your QB brought to the table??? Yes he’s tough. But that’s about it. After this point of the season, it’s hard to convince me otherwise. IMHO, Schroeder has got to sit. I’m not buying into the whole “he has separated himself from the rest” jazz that I keep hearing. There MUST be another QB in our ranks who can do AT LEAST as good as what Schroeder is doing. NO CAN dis kine. (and just in case some of you are wondering, NO, I am not a gambler)

    Ok, now that I got that off of my chest,

    Back to “we are in a rebuilding year” mode.


  65. spisskyhrad October 28, 2012 8:38 am

    Injuries to O line and in general can and likely will occur against the quality of teams to be faced. This does not bode well for the Warriors. Shroeder does need more protection and he also needs better offensive plays to capitalize on his strengths.

    In comparison to last year — what a difference — it almost takes your breath away to see a proud and strong team reduced to this level of performance. I can only imagine the morale of the players at this point. This season is far from over … argh….

    And I do really miss Rolovich… he was the greatest … he will be a head coach before too long and lacking a change in the administration of UH he would be nuts to even consider returning to this debt ridden, misdirected, and ineptly run program.

  66. madeinhawaii October 28, 2012 8:46 am

    I guess we made the bottom ten this week, eh? Replacing CSU…

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  68. Shoko October 28, 2012 9:04 am

    Well, if its any consolation, Wyoming (1-7) is still winless in the conference, too. They could finish 2-10 if they can beat Colorado State next week.

  69. Shoko October 28, 2012 9:07 am

    Speaking of Rolo, I agree he will eventually find a head coaching job somewhere, but I’m not too sure it will be at Nevada. With his expereince in a RnS and Pistol offense, I’m curious what kind of offense he will implement when he does find that head coaching job.

  70. Da Greenmask October 28, 2012 9:08 am

    This is the one time I wish our quarterback wasn’t so tough. If he would just get hurt, then Chow would be forced to put in another quarterback! I know that sounds mean, but that’s where I’am at this point! Chow, wake up brah!

  71. Da Punchbowl Kid October 28, 2012 9:15 am

    Tough loss. Errybody frustrated and who can blame them.

    Prayers for all of those on the East Coast. That’s a monster of a storm bearing down on them.

  72. Shoko October 28, 2012 9:16 am

    There’s still five more games left in the season and alot can happen in that stretch. Fresno State took out New Mexico’s top two quarterbacks (Holdbrook and Gautsche) yesterday. And the Bulldog’s defense is alot better than last years.

  73. Da Punchbowl Kid October 28, 2012 9:18 am

    How ’bout those throwback jerseys the Redskins are wearing?

    I did it again d1.

  74. d1shima October 28, 2012 9:20 am

    I got me one good eye on ya, DPK! ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

  75. d1shima October 28, 2012 9:21 am


    Didn’t see that coffee table.

    durn it, Kid!


  76. warriorfan October 28, 2012 9:26 am

    Well it is true that our o-line need to improve, but I think they have done a decent job in the past games. My biggest fear is, if coach don’t do something about our block of ice we call a quarterback, one of those linemen will take matters in their own hands and get Mr. Statue Of Liberty hurt and force coach to make a change. I really don’t want to see any player to get hurt. Coach you really need to make a change and close this season out in some kind of respectable way. JMHO

  77. subdued October 28, 2012 9:44 am

    Who remembers Chow at UCLA with Kevin Kraft….this is worse than a repeat of those days.

    Through the ever so thick and the seemingly thin, We love and support our Warrior players, we don’t blame you. I can’t even imagine whats it’s like to be even one of you having to deal with this fiasco.

  78. Buffoman October 28, 2012 9:54 am

    I like the small improvements that we are making as the season goes on. The defense seems to be be adjusting better and the folks seem to be doing a good job. I still think N’quan is a better corner than Grimes as his tackling technique seems to be stronger. That other freshman at safety is our best safety, especially against the run. Hardy-Tuiliau does not appear to like that contact too much and does not wrap up quite like Phillips, Jackson and Edwards.

    The offense is doing better when attempting to run the ball. O’line is developing along those lines. Pass blocking is improving and running backs seem to be getting better (although Joey really needs to work on carrying that loaf of bread a lot better).

    SS still does things that new QBs do, stare down his receiver, takes too long in the pocket and his timing with receivers is not there. That being said his sacks are up may be due to the o-line having problems pass blocking, but he too is a big part of the problem because his mechanics are not there. Last night his recievers bailed him out quite a bit as the passes were behind them on many occasions.

    Coach may like him, as I previously stated, but if Graham is going to be handed the job next year, for local fans, I’d like to see Schutter given a real shot at running the offense. People like Graves but in this offense, I believe Caymen is better suited to manage the offense.

    Coach has to also realize that fans are his customers and we need to buy the product. I like what coach is doing with the team in an overall sense and can see that we will get better once the repetitive nature of learning a new philosophy takes hold. But he has to make compromises at times and this seems to be a good time as fans know and accept that the season’s end result will not favor UH in the W-L column. The eye of the storm at the moment, whether merited or not is the QB position and it is “fan human nature” to see what else may be is there was someone else there. No controversy, no second guessing just a different look in the same new philosophical strategic plan for the team.

  79. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 9:55 am

    IMO, the o-line is not the problem. the problem is the hard-headed, 80s & 90s thinking HC, and not ready for prime-time DC.

  80. wowlaulau October 28, 2012 10:00 am

    #65, lol weak…. grow up … u want to talk $hit but can’t take some joking in return … Its your foot that you are putting in your mouth … don’t blame me for who you are … just read your post, you do that on your own.

  81. wowlaulau October 28, 2012 10:03 am

    lol, look mommy I hurt the big bad mans feelings … classic

  82. manoa October 28, 2012 10:10 am

    Chow just lacks some experience-as a head coach and has not coached at our level before.

    Hopefully, he will not be too proud to ask for advice.

    If you recall after his tough second season, June Jones had personal meetings with Bill Walsh, including a week he spent with Walsh revising the offense– from line splits, alignments, pass routes, and running plays, adding West Coast patterns and plays from Walsh. The week he spent with Walsh led to rumors that Walsh was hiring JJ to coach the 49’ers. He also spoke regularly with Mouse Davis before he was hired.

    He got advice from Tomey on the defense on several occasions, and he tried to hire Tomey as DC (but Tomey would not break his commitment to Mack Brown.

  83. Tazer October 28, 2012 10:12 am

    Please cool heades here and respect others views. Good or bad and have some fun. I know it’s been a very bad year so far and it rubbing off on some people. And don’t let the this blog come a fighting ground like the staidum. Plus don’t blame the players. This is Chow team so he gets to do what he wants (good or bad). All coachs has good and bad ideas. And the injuries are problems that can’t go away fast enough. Just like last year where we had players come and go from injuries. Just have some faith and pray that next year we get back to a wining season. And no more injuries to next year team. You all have a good day.

  84. Derek October 28, 2012 10:18 am

    I’m sorry. Sean Schroeder is not the answer at QB. It’s what, 7 games so far? The next 3 games, at Fresno, home against Boise St., at Air Force will be major blowouts and I am talking at least 50+ points or more giving up. If Chow thinks Schroeder gives us the best chance to win then he is sorely mistaken. We are not going to win the next 3 for sure so why not give the next QB a chance to see what he can do. Nothing to lose since we’re going to lose anyway!!!! Give Higgins a look. Give Shutter. Heck, give Graves a look. I don’t think any of those 3 are any worse than Schroeder. Hawaii was right there yesterday, then the sordid interceptions returned for TDs. The defense got the ball back time and time again and Schroeder can’t make plays for the team. We will not beat UNLV either and maybe against South Alabama too under Chow makes a chance at Quarterback.

    Schroeder also holds the ball too long and he always gets sacked. He doesn’t know how to throw the ball away to save valuabe yards. He said he feels he lost the game for Hawaii yesterday. Da, the most understatement of the year.

    Look at Oregon State yesterday. Sean Mannion the starting QB threw 3 interceptions against Washington. The game was close and the game was on the line. Head Coach, Mike Riley saw Mannion was struggling and he make a switch by sending in the backup, Vaz who promptly drove the team for a touchdown pass. Washington won at the end, but not of Riley’s decisiion. That’s the kind of thing I am talking about. Chow is just too subborn and I think that is a big problem.

    But, there is one thing I am sure of: Marrell Jackson will be a excellent player. And I have no doubt Garcia-Williams, Phillips, Fonua, Van Ackeren, etc will all be very good players in the future too. We are talking freshmen so at least that bodes well. But, God, we have to have the QB.

  85. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 10:25 am

    some of my fellow bloggers seem to think we’re showing improvement. IMHO, we are not getting better, for those of you that think we’re improving, plz take a look at our schedule. we have for the most part, week after week played weaker and weaker teams ending with this past saturdayz very,very bad CSU team. i don’t see any team improvements.

  86. WarriorNY October 28, 2012 10:40 am

    Wahoo! Let’s go Giants!

    Sorry Stretch and PP… ๐Ÿ™‚

  87. kev-1 October 28, 2012 10:51 am

    SAWARRIOR . . . 5 turnovers is a defensive improvement. Yes it was against a struggling team, but the point is that players put themselves in the position to make plays. Not to mention, that they did make adjustments after getting beat by the run. That doesn’t mean the defensive woes are fixed, but it is an improvement. Look, a lot of teams that we got beat up by were bad teams. So better defensive play does show improvement.

  88. papajoe2 October 28, 2012 10:55 am

    Why don’t Coach start another qb and, if its not working out, put SS in. It can’t be any worst that it is now. We losing to bad teams and getting blown out by average teams. Even USC was overrated. This way coach can satisfy his fans one way or the other AND if its not working out then SS has a chance to be the hero, making disgruntled fans more quiet. The way things are going now, I worry about attendance, not only for the rest of the year, but next year too, after all the program should be run like a business and the business may be losing money.

  89. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 11:05 am

    90. Kev-1…. giving up 28 points in a half to a bad 1-6 team that is using a 3rd string QB is not a defensive improvement.

    Also, players DO NOT put themselves in position to make plays, the coach’s defensive scheme places players in position to make plays (assignment & alignment). it’s up to the player from there to execute. the DC’s schemes are off and are putting players in bad positions.

    our DC was at SDSU as a DC, go look at there frickin’ record and what they lost by when he was DC there, it may surprise you.

  90. ai-eee-soos October 28, 2012 11:09 am

    Alex Green

    Run: 22/54 Lg 7

    Rec:: 4/28 Lg 12

    Another good day’s work.

  91. lava October 28, 2012 11:14 am

    Mutiny in Manoa.

    Chow has lost the players.

    Next qb? Where the heck is Graves these days.

  92. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 11:15 am

    Decent play by Dallas just now. Overall, bleeccchhhhhhhh, though. Are they one of those in the Thanksgiving Day games? Instead of doing throwback uniforms on that day, Cowboys should rename themselves “Turkeys”, have a nice roasted turkey on their helmet, autumn colors for their uniform. Can put Mayflower on the back of Romo’s jersey instead of his last name. Dallas Turkeys; has a nice ring to it.

  93. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 11:16 am

    94. probably too late for graves now, since the offensive guru shelved him.

  94. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 11:20 am

    Good football discussion today on the board. Some of the same ol’ kaka (read: “change the QB” and you sip chamomile tea), but, lot of insightful stuff.

    This is what life’s all about, mostly. Glad those waves didn’t hit us. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  95. kev-1 October 28, 2012 11:22 am

    92, SA . . . we have been giving up a lot of points all year. That hasn’t changed. We haven’t gotten turnovers. They got 5 turnovers this week. Hence, improvement. Please don’t mistake my comment for praise of the defense. I am just saying that the turnovers were an improvement. It seems that you think that I think our defense is good. I am not saying that.

    And okay, since you feel the need to correct me, yes the scheme puts the players in the position to make plays. They haven’t made them all year, with the same scheme. They actually made some this week. Oh look, another improvement.


  96. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 11:23 am


  97. kev-1 October 28, 2012 11:24 am

    96, SA . . . yup, no chance. Doubt he even sees the field as a receiver. We do know he is no longer a QB though.

  98. kev-1 October 28, 2012 11:24 am

    Grease, beat ya!

  99. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 11:26 am

    # 97 — Only managed to see “Pauoa” something and a Grease’s screen name. Rest of the post is “mwaaahh, mwhaaaaaaa, mwhaaaaaa, mwhaaaaa, mwhaaaaa.” Eek. The heck outta hea. ๐Ÿ™‚

  100. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 11:30 am

    99. i don’t feel the need to correct you, but it is what it is.

  101. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 11:30 am


    October 28th, 2012 at 11:24 am

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  102. kev-1 October 28, 2012 11:32 am


    I’m just messing with you. I enjoy the banter. Our defense is bad. But players played a bit better.

  103. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 11:34 am

    99. i do see your point Kev-1, it’s all good.

  104. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 11:42 am

    Texas was losing to lowly Kansas this past saturday, the starter David Ash threw 2 ints, HC mack brown replaced Ash with case mccoy (colt mccoy’s bro) and the Longhorns came back to win that game on the road.

    at this point in the season, i don’t see the problem with trying a different QB when it’s obvious he’s having a bad game. heck, how will the coach know who can perform when the lights are on if he doesn’t give his other QBs a chance?!

    im not saying make someone else the starter, but if SS is having a bad game, give someone else a shot, then the next game chow can always stick SS back in there as starter, if anything at least he will have another QB with game experience. IMO

  105. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 11:50 am

    … some QBs are game time players, others look better in practice……practice, we’re talkin’ ’bout PRACTICE (allen iverson’s voice), PRACTICE…not a game, not a game, but….PRACTICE….

  106. BaddaMo'oMan October 28, 2012 11:52 am

    #58 lava,

    I 110% agree.

    I’m not an expert, but I do know football. Played and coached it from the lowest to the highest level for many years to understand the details.

    Is this a rebuilding year? It maybe for the type of system coach Chow is implimenting, but what was there to rebuild coming off a 6-7 season that could have easily turned into a 8-5 bowl eligible season if it wasn’t for a field goal last year. Coach Chow, his staff, and the players are doing the best that they can, but if this is the best Hawaii has to offer this year so far, the program will deminish along with the recruits that may not want to play for a losing program. Hawaii players are athletes and many of them adopt well to change especially the pro-style offense. Kahuku and Farrington runs a similar offense so recruits from those respective schools wouldn’t have a problem.

    It seems as if not every athlete is getting there shot during game time. Players are place in the wrong positions and are less effective at that particular position. The untested, imaginary, unsuccessful schemes may play a huge factor with what the coaches are implimenting that causes mass confusion come game day and everything falls apart.

    I’m at the practices majority of the time and when some people say that the other QB’s are no where near Sean Schroeder, there wrong because many times Higgins, Shutter, and the other QB’s performs well enough to get a shot but never do come gameday. WE HAVE THE ATHLETES TO COMPETE, “Now how are you going to use them.

    I also think coach Chow and some of his staff do not have a very good relationship with many of his players, and it seems as if Graves maybe on the you know what list.

    I’m afraid that if coach Chow doesn’t show many of us the people of Hawaii and the fans near and far in making some kind of progress with the re-evaluation of his entire team, including his coaching staff, make some kind of adjustments with positive progress so that this team is making strides of improvement week after week, then he won’t even see his 3rd season as head football coach due to the decrease in revenue.

    I wish the best of luck to our team and hope the light gets brighter at the end of the tunnel in the weeks to come. It hurts and I’m still waiting to get out of the Likelike tunnel.

    Stay Strong and Support No matter the season!

  107. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 11:57 am

    110. agree!!! thank you, thank you, thank you for posting!!!

  108. kev-1 October 28, 2012 11:57 am



  109. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 11:57 am

    ok, i gotta go drink da beer.

  110. WarriorNY October 28, 2012 12:03 pm

    Freakin’ hell Giants…

  111. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 28, 2012 12:04 pm

    At this point just give Shutter a few snaps. It cant possibly be worse.

  112. d1shima October 28, 2012 12:04 pm


  113. gobows October 28, 2012 12:13 pm

    27 points in 3 qtrs…that’s great, now if they can just get that 4th qtr production they’ll be able to win some games. well at least the last 2 home games they may have a chance.

  114. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 28, 2012 12:14 pm

    Its one thing if Schroeder will be our starter next year. But since it will likely be Graham, what is the problem with giving Shutter a go? The risk of bad QB play and losing isnt anything to be worried about at this point.

    I hope Chow will look at the tapes and come to this decision.

  115. WarriorNY October 28, 2012 12:19 pm


    Just wanted to say thanks to all the posters today and yesterday for their thoughts about the storm… Hopefully electricity doesn’t cut out tonight or tomorrow…


    4th Quarter = Eli Time! Let’s go G-Men!

  116. Shoko October 28, 2012 12:24 pm

    Oh, thought you were rooting for the SF Giants. My bad..heheh.

  117. WarriorNY October 28, 2012 12:34 pm


    hahaha… Sorry… I guess I’m probably the only NY Giants fan on the blog…

  118. WarriorNY October 28, 2012 12:42 pm

    I’m not sure who posted stats yesterday but I have agree and post from ESPN for those who say there was no improvement in our team yesterday…

    UH – CSU

    First Downs 25-16

    Total Yards 393-291

    Passing 200-115

    Rushing 193-176

    Penalties 5-31 8-114

    3rd Down Conversions 8-21 1-6

    4th Down Conversions 1-3 0-0

    Turnovers 5-5

    Possession 36:06-23:54

    Our Red Zone offense killed us… Then the late INT’s when we were trying to come back at the end…

  119. spisskyhrad October 28, 2012 12:44 pm

    Shroeder was an outrageously gifted QB at Dana Hills High School, California — he lead that team to the playoffs in the PAC 5 division of Orange County. In light of the fact Dana Hills is and has been a perennial bottom finisher, that was quite an accomplishment. This was against the likes of Mission Viejo, Tesoro and Edison, all perennial power houses in Orange County, California. He lead Dana Hills to its’ first victory over San Clemente(last years runner up to state champion Santa Margarita) since 1998.

    Bottom line, Shroeder was brought to UH by Chow because he was very familiar with this kid’s pedigree. I think that is why he is sticking with him. I have no idea why this isn’t working out better.

    To blame him for this miserable season is unfair and myopic. He is one of 22 players that are on the field. With good receivers, good blocking, a running game and creative play calling, he would be a star. West Coast offense is a problem without the right ingredients.

  120. WarriorNY October 28, 2012 12:55 pm


    I think UH fans have been a little bit spoiled by the R&S QBs we have had. We’ve had statistically some of the greatest college QB’s in the history of college football… A lot of it had to do with the system UH ran…

    That being said, UH fans are frustrated. We haven’t been this bad since 1998. We have to blame someone and the starting QB and coach are the easiest ones to blame…

  121. d1shima October 28, 2012 1:03 pm

    Did the defense show improvement?

    Gave up four TD’s, two on short fields of 29 and 5 yards.

    5 TO’s

  122. Shoko October 28, 2012 1:04 pm

    I think at this point in the season (1-7) with the blowout losses experienced, its got to be part psychological, too. Players may express confidence and say they’re not giving up, but in the back of their mind, subconciously, it might be affecting the way they play. When you go through a six-game losing streak, its always tough to dig yourself out.

    Thats why last nights game was especially important because it was against a team that was beatable. Just one win and things could have changed drastically for the better. Unfortunately, the next team that the Warriors have a chance of beating is UNLV, and by that time the season is almost over.

  123. WarriorNY October 28, 2012 1:08 pm

    No… Oops… That’s supposed to say I disagree with those saying there was no improvement…

  124. Shoko October 28, 2012 1:09 pm

    I know the secondary played well holding the Rams to 115 yards passing, which is the lowest total yards passing this season for the Rams.

    Rush defense is a different story, tho.

  125. d1shima October 28, 2012 1:09 pm


    Maybe you were talking about the “Silver Lining List”?

    Frustrating loss but statistically there’s more than a few “silver linings”

    – 193 yards rushing

    – 25-16 edge in First Downs

    – 4.1 yds per rush attempt

    -393-291 edge in Total Offense

    – 93-52 edge in offensive plays

    – fewer penalties and penalty yards

    – 36 to 24 minute edge in time of possession

    – two productive running backs, 84 and 108 yards gained

    Keep doing those things and:

    – limit turnovers

    – improve sack production

    – improve RedZone productivity

    Git ‘er done!


  126. WarriorNY October 28, 2012 1:11 pm


    Yep that was it…

  127. d1shima October 28, 2012 1:12 pm

    Wow, WNY. Giving the Big D the 3-finger treatment? ๐Ÿ‘ฟ

  128. Shoko October 28, 2012 1:12 pm

    Warriors gave up 176 yards on the ground, which is the highest rush yardage for the Rams this season.

  129. d1shima October 28, 2012 1:13 pm

    …salute? ๐Ÿ˜‰

  130. d1shima October 28, 2012 1:14 pm

    How many rushing yards defended is a good DT worth?

  131. WarriorNY October 28, 2012 1:14 pm


    This is an insane game…

  132. WarriorNY October 28, 2012 1:18 pm

    I think one thing that needs to be stated is how good our DT’s were last year… Man, I wish we had those guys again this year…

  133. 3-Prong October 28, 2012 1:20 pm

    ST: Who has the strongest arm with the most zip on the ball of the available quarterbacks?

  134. d1shima October 28, 2012 1:20 pm

    Some might accuse these points I raise as “excuses”

    That’s not my agenda; I not connected with the team. I can reasonably be accused of looking for reasons to continue to be a Warrior fan though….

  135. d1shima October 28, 2012 1:22 pm


    I wish I coulda seen it all…just listening to the reports on the radio now.

  136. d1shima October 28, 2012 1:24 pm

    As far as the QB PT decision, I’ve learned that many times it’s what The Blog Host is not saying that is most worth hearing….

  137. kev-1 October 28, 2012 1:25 pm

    Tony Romo is Tony Romo

    Giants win.

  138. Locomoco October 28, 2012 1:26 pm

    At this point, IMO, the problem is not the quarterback. The quarterback is only doing what the coach lets him do. The coach is steadfastly committed to having the current quarterback on the field, come hell or high water, regardless of the result (i.e., 6 pathetic losses).

    To me, the fundamental problem is the coach. When the coach places his commitment to one player, higher than the goals of the team and of the entire community behind the team, something is painfully wrong. It’s painful to watch our team, that once consistently ranked in the top tiers of many offensive categories every year, reduced to the pathetic product we now see on the field. I was initially an enthusiastic supporter of Norm Chow, but now, I am beginning to understand why he was never been a head coach, unfortunately until now, and has not had long tenures in his most recent set of coaching assignments.

  139. kev-1 October 28, 2012 1:28 pm

    I don’t see anyone blaming Schroeder for the terrible season. It doesn’t matter what type of QB’s UH fans are used to statistically. Schroeder has not played well, and nothing is being done about it.

    Is it all his fault? Nope.

    Is he part of the problem? Yup. At least in my opinion.

    Would it hurt to give someone else a chance at this point? Nope.

  140. d1shima October 28, 2012 1:29 pm

    …but most importantly, gotta knock off the “potty-mouth” stuff.

    Stay classy. Stay in control….

  141. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 1:33 pm

    Greasetradamous strikes again, # 95:

    Chicken Grease:

    October 28th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    Decent play by Dallas just now. Overall, bleeccchhhhhhhh, though. Are they one of those in the Thanksgiving Day games? Instead of doing throwback uniforms on that day, Cowboys should rename themselves “Turkeys”, have a nice roasted turkey on their helmet, autumn colors for their uniform. Can put Mayflower on the back of Romo’s jersey instead of his last name. Dallas Turkeys; has a nice ring to it.

    This is the pros. THIS is where you’re closer to a better “change the QB” argument. But, noooooooooo, the celebrity-humping QB known as Romo has been in this role longer than Law and Order TV series have been on air, seemingly.

    With UH, it’s not only about winning. It’s about developing a/the program.

    Some of the myopia on this board is off the charts. Go see your ophthalmologist. A Grease is blessed w/ 20/20, so there. ๐Ÿ™‚

  142. 3-Prong October 28, 2012 1:33 pm

    Fiji sang the National Anthem at today’s Steeler’s game courtesy of Troy P? Anybody got a link?

  143. d1shima October 28, 2012 1:34 pm


    I realized that I have been derelict for the past 2(?) weeks widda Hawaii BCS updates.

    No worry. I’m back on it!

  144. WarriorNY October 28, 2012 1:34 pm

    Sounds like me yesterday…


    The points you make are not excuses, they are facts….

    Anyway, Goodnight all, I gotta make sure I don’t float away in this storm that’s approaching…

    Wait, I gotta make one more point… This last game reminded me a lot of the game in 2010 (one of the most talented teams we’ve had in 10 years) against Colorado. We had opportunity after opportunity in the RedZone and couldn’t convert and we ended up losing badly. So for those saying the R&S would’ve resulted in guaranteed points this weekend. That game, in 2010 we had 4 NFL calliber receivers and an NFL RB…

  145. protector October 28, 2012 1:35 pm

    Count me among those who’d like to see a deserving back-up QB get a chance to re-energize this team and keep the chains moving. It would give our beleaguered D a rest for a change. It would also mean that the opponents’s DC would have to change-up the defense to allow for a more mobile QB who could take advantage of busted plays and over-pursuit. The fact that Schroeder is tough, smart and has a good grasp of the Offense is very admirable. It cannot make up for poor mobility, interminably-long decisionmaking in getting rid of the ball, telegraphing (instead of looking-off) receivers, a slow release, a weak arm and inconsistent accuracy. How can a back-up continue to keep high spirits and remain highly-motivated when he knows that no matter how hard he plays in practice, that he won’t “smell the field” unless they carry Sean out on a stretcher. And then he’ll just be told to hand-off the ball.

  146. 3-Prong October 28, 2012 1:37 pm

    140 D1: Agreed. That’s why am wondering if I get a response to my 137.

  147. Shoko October 28, 2012 1:38 pm

    One player I thought was going to be a maniac on the field this year was Art Laurel. Last year, he led the team in sacks, TFL and tackles. Not sure what happened with him.

  148. d1shima October 28, 2012 1:39 pm

    Hawaii projected in a tie with UNLV at 109….

  149. d1shima October 28, 2012 1:40 pm

    ….oddly, above CSU who is at 111.

  150. WarriorNY October 28, 2012 1:41 pm

    Guys, just fyi, I remember listening to Manoa Underground when Ryan Hall, SS’s roommate and best friend said he (Hall) used to read these blogs… I hope we can keep it respectful…

  151. d1shima October 28, 2012 1:43 pm

    Take care WNY. Be safe. Be well.

  152. protector October 28, 2012 1:44 pm

    Hey WarriorNY on #121,

    I’m a New York Giants fan! Down with the Dallas ‘Turkeys’ (per A Grease) !!

    Romo = Young Tom Turkey… Jerry Jones = Old Turkey…

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  154. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 1:47 pm

    You know what is weird? Some of youse negatively criticizing Chow and/or the Warriors are also Dallas fans. And, you seem to remain a Dallas fan even with this Super Bowl qualifying-challenged Tony Romo.

    But, when it comes to negatively criticizing Dallas, you become all, “oh . . . th-th-th-they doing all right . . . th-th-th-th-th-that team got some beasts! Ha ha oh, ha ha . . . D-D-D-Dallas, th-th-th-they g-g-g-g-good . . . R-r-r-r-Romo j-j-j-j-j-just need a-a-a-a-a-a f-f-f-few more seasons. Y-y-y-you’ll see. Yeah! J-j-j-j-Jerry Johnson is the man! Victoria Secret store Dallas stadium, yeah, brilliant idea.” Yeah. Great idea in a Cowboys non-Super Bowl appearance era.

    You’re OK w/Dallas turkeying year in, year out with this, “oh, I’m so kawai so*” Romo believing in his own legend. Year in, year out.

    You’ll assess all of Dallas’ turkey-ism year in, year out for many years.

    But you won’t allow a Coach Chow his first season.

    This hypocrisy owned by some of you is deafening.

    Go to church.

    * “poor thing” in the Japanese language

    # # #

  155. protector October 28, 2012 1:52 pm

    WarriorNY on #148,

    The game you’re talking about where UH lost to Colorado was IN Denver and sadly, I feel it was all about ALTITUDE more than talent level. As I recall, Hawaii dominated the first half, but only led by about 10. In the second half they ran out of gas or hit a wall. The following year when they had to come here, it was payback time.

  156. jiminy cricket October 28, 2012 1:53 pm

    I think Chow is a decent man, but that doesn’t necessarily translate into making believers out of your players or making you a real good coach.

    We had a great program built by JJ that was kinda slilpping under McMackin, though it wasn’t broken. Remember, last year we lost two games bc of long passes where our defenders were in position to make the play but did not, otherwise we would have been in a bowl game.

    Now, the program is definitely broken and it cannot be fixed by the one who broke it. We are on course to finish as the worst team in D-1.

    Pray for JJ’s return; he wants to come back when the timing is right.

  157. d1shima October 28, 2012 1:53 pm

    …I thought it meant “pitiful”?

  158. Shoko October 28, 2012 1:56 pm

    JJ’s making over 2 million at SMU. Would he be willing to come back for anything less than that?

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  160. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 2:06 pm

    LMAO, who’s blaming one player for our teams poor play. I put the blame on the coaches.

  161. d1shima October 28, 2012 2:12 pm

    OK….Hawaii is not in the Top 25.

    reloading paper fo’ get the rest

    …hang on.

  162. d1shima October 28, 2012 2:13 pm

  163. d1shima October 28, 2012 2:13 pm

  164. d1shima October 28, 2012 2:14 pm

  165. d1shima October 28, 2012 2:14 pm

    (I gotta get ridda dis dial-up modem!)

  166. d1shima October 28, 2012 2:16 pm


    Get ’em!

    CSU vaults over Hawaii to #105 clearing a landing spot at #111 (tied wit Florida Int’l…why we no play DEM again!)

  167. manoa#1 October 28, 2012 2:16 pm

    #61 pauoa boy…… let um know my brada. wowlaulau u need to get off of chows nuts cause he’s taking this once proud program to the gutters.

  168. Shoko October 28, 2012 2:17 pm

    BCS Standing came out.


  169. d1shima October 28, 2012 2:18 pm

    How come wen I try watchESPN the only ting dat loads good is da freakin’ T-Mobile 4G commercial? ๐Ÿ‘ฟ

  170. Shoko October 28, 2012 2:22 pm

    This is a better link.


  171. kev-1 October 28, 2012 2:30 pm

    brrrrrrrrtttt . . . throw the flag! Unsportsmanlike conduct. Come on guys, keep it clean.

  172. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 2:30 pm

    170. You cracking me up. LMAO

  173. Pauoa Boy October 28, 2012 2:32 pm

    UH pretty much got handed this game yet still managed to lose. Chow kicking himself for his playcalling decisions, Schroeder making excuses about his mediocre play… Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda, same ol story and still can’t figure it out. Defense had its moments but because of the offensive genius and his tough as nails QB being incompetent in moving the ball into the endzone, the defense gets gassed and the mediocrity ensues and the losses continue to mount up. Running backs gained their yards which means the Oline was doing their job opening holes and blocking. But yet they can’t pass block for beans??? Yeah frikkin right. If I’m not mistaken most are from a pass blocking background since most were former Coach Macks guys, but yet they aren’t giving Schroeder enough time and whatever else right??? Seems like every position aside from the QB has had change, hmm…makes you wonder??? Knowing you will never get any shine once the #1 QB is chosen I would be looking elsewhere to display my skills. Improvement against a team like CSU is a joke. This is a team we should dominate and kick the crap out of. They are just as horrible if not worse, yet we made them look far superior. I mean 2 freshmen with pick 6’s??? Schroeder should’ve exploited the inexperience but yet he’s the one who got exploited with them picks. Oh but it’s a rebuilding year, it’s a new system, it’s recruiting, it’s this, it’s that, sounds like a whole lot of crap. There are ballers on this team, All-State players, JC All Americans, players from winning programs, SEC caliber transfers, etc… but supposedly they aren’t talented enough for a pro-set style and whatever else, blah, blah, blah.

  174. Shoko October 28, 2012 2:40 pm

    Giants 1

    Tigers 2

    Crowd going krazy.

  175. chowDER October 28, 2012 2:44 pm

    Chow sucks.

  176. chowDER October 28, 2012 2:44 pm


    Chow SUCKS

  177. chowDER October 28, 2012 2:46 pm

    Laughing at all you chow lovers. he has killed this program. and no time or “players” are gona fix it. he stinks as an offensive coordinator and a head coach.

  178. greenthumb October 28, 2012 2:48 pm

    People are mentioning the mental burden on this team of the continuing losses. Part of being a football player is being physically and mentally tough, but at the same time we are talking about mostly 18- to 22-year-olds. I hope the coaching staff is doing things behind the scenes to help these guys see themselves as continuing to “play to win” and not “playing to avoid losing.”

    Some people laughed back in the day when Riley Wallace did the Golden Corral (?) pregame meal tradition, and when he let the husband-and-wife UH professor-people talk with the players to work on morale and visioning. But that stuff worked.

    Before this season started, Chow focused on routines, details, and team unity. Those were good foundations. Hopefully the coaching staff and the team leaders are helping the players recall those positive things. And also hopefully they are looking for ways to build morale and positive self-expectations.

    Surely we all would like to see Ws, and surely it is frustrating when there are lopsided Ls on the list. But all of these players are somebody’s kid, somebody’s sibling, and a member of our community. Once they are done at UH, they begin the rest of their lives. Coping with and coming through times like this will make them stronger for themselves and their various communities.


  179. kev-1 October 28, 2012 3:02 pm

    The positive from Saturday’s game:

    Kanoa Leahey and Darnell Arceneaux did a great job calling the game. Sorry Robert, but Kanoa killed it. If we can’t get a QB change, maybe we can get an announcer change. Heck, I’d even take Kanoa as play by play and Kekaula as color. Did notice Darnell pronouncing Iosefa as OOASEFA. Not sure if that is right or not.

  180. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 3:13 pm


    October 28th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    Laughing at all you chow lovers. he has killed this program. and no time or “players” are gona fix it. he stinks as an offensive coordinator and a head coach.

    Laughing at your grasp of grammar. “gona” . . . only one space after period punctuation and no capitalization.

    And laughing that Norm Chow most probably has a lot more money than you. Laugh at that.

  181. Da Punchbowl Kid October 28, 2012 3:15 pm

    Stay safe WarriorNY. Prayers for everybody in the path of da big one…

  182. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 3:19 pm

    Indeed, 2nd DPK’s # 186 . . . stay safe WarriorNY, you and your loved ones; and to all East Coasters there as well.


    October 28th, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    (I gotta get ridda dis dial-up modem!)

    You’re joking, eh, d1shima? I don’t think dial-up is still around, yes?

  183. PolyMom October 28, 2012 3:23 pm

    Just watched the game here in SoCal on Time Warner Network 403.

    We have problems. But things can be fixed. But one thing that is very interesting about the Warriors.

    1- we only took 62 players due to so many injuries. Why so many injuries. That is our BIG problem!!!

    We need to get the football team a REAL Doc who can work with strength and conditioning. That is one of our big problems. We need John Burns School of Medicine to step up and do the testing like other programs. Bone density. Body dynamics. Hypoberic chamber. Body scans. Not sure who the S&C Coach is but we need help now!!!! At UCLA they teach nutrition, psychological conditioning. But we need the help of the med school.


    Geez give Chow a chance.

  184. manoa#1 October 28, 2012 3:30 pm

    breaking news…..Darius Bright gets kicked off the warrior football team….bummmers.

  185. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 3:35 pm


    October 28th, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    Geez give Chow a chance.

    Amen. It’s like Hester Prynne mentality down here (and we all know that Prynne’s accusers held worse faults and sins than Prynne, only succeeding in speaking to their own mirror when shouting taunts at her).


    October 28th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    The positive from Saturday’s game:

    Kanoa Leahey and Darnell Arceneaux did a great job calling the game. Sorry Robert, but Kanoa killed it. If we can’t get a QB change, maybe we can get an announcer change. Heck, I’d even take Kanoa as play by play and Kekaula as color. Did notice Darnell pronouncing Iosefa as OOASEFA. Not sure if that is right or not.

    Should just get Jim Leahy back. And guest co-announcer/color person with every game. A Grease simply cannot hear what Kekaula’s saying. And that Kapolei school coach co-announcing — sounds like he’s reading from a refrigerator repair manual whenever he speaks,

    Kanoa should make a run for ESPN, which has some good Mainland announcers to pronounce Polynesian names. They looking for someone permanent, get Kanoa. Seems like he wants more exposure anyway. He’s doing the Diamond Head Classic for as long as ESPN puts that on.

    Whoops. Violating a Grease’s own rule of celebritizing news/sports news people. Violate that rule only for a Tsai, though ๐Ÿ˜‰ .

  186. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 3:45 pm

    World Series tied up. 7th inning. 3-3. Detroit changing pitchers.

    Go Giants!!!!!

    GO WARRIORS!!!!!!!!

  187. subdued October 28, 2012 3:46 pm

    Oh oh. What happened to D Bright?

  188. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 28, 2012 3:48 pm


    Where did you read that?

  189. puhi October 28, 2012 3:58 pm

    Aloha kฤkou,

    Most of us have been season ticket holders for many years. Yet, we have more access to 10 other college teams than our own team, unless of course, we pay $60 for 1 game. So, how are we supposed to get a better fan base? How are we supposed to keep our local kids home, when our local kids watch Notre Dame, USC, UCLA, Stanford, etc. every single week, but hardly ever get to watch their own team. Except againt Lamar, of course. It has to be free and accessible or you have no young fans.

    kden, puhi

  190. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 28, 2012 4:00 pm

    The opening line has Fresno favored by 33.5 points. Wouldn’t be surprised to see this move near 40 by Saturday.

    Those that have been betting against Hawaii are making a nice chunk of change this season.

  191. manoa#1 October 28, 2012 4:03 pm

    straight from the horses mouth…… but i’ll let stephen tsai fill u all in with this info.

  192. HiFlyer October 28, 2012 4:05 pm


    49 – 17 puppies

  193. manoa#1 October 28, 2012 4:08 pm

    gonna be another long day come dis saturday.

    Dogs- 56 warriors- 14

  194. Bugaz October 28, 2012 4:15 pm

    Congrats Volleybows for a couple of nice road wins!

  195. Bugaz October 28, 2012 4:15 pm


  196. Bugaz October 28, 2012 4:20 pm

    27-24 Warriors slap the muzzle on the Dawgs behind the fantastic play of back up QB

  197. Supastoke October 28, 2012 4:31 pm

    Go Warrirors!!!!

  198. westwind October 28, 2012 4:56 pm

    What Hawaii fans don’t realize is that Coach Chow would rather lose than to admit he is wrong. It is for this reason that he chooses not to use Schutter or Graves. In the case of Graves, a record setting California HS standout, he gets relegated to receiver, then not being played, not making the travel squad, and not suited up for the last home game. Call it “my way or the highway.” I find this kind of behavior unacceptable. Those of you who hope for a QB change will be disappointed.

  199. d1shima October 28, 2012 5:00 pm


    Edah new modem oa da dot matrix printah gotta go!


  200. Derek October 28, 2012 5:03 pm

    The thing is we all root for our Warriors. I order pay per view, go to an occasional road trip, watch every UH football game live. Right now it is very frustrating. But, let’s face it. This is a very bad football team. the talent level and skill level is down. Recruiting is key. We need defensive linemen to stop the rush. We need playmakers at receivers and we need the holy grail QB as when Colt Brennan came along. You can cross off this year already. 1-11. Lucky to be 2-10 at season’s end. 2013 can’t come fast enough.

  201. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 5:04 pm

    Whoooo hoooo!!! 4-3, Giants!!!!

    Bottom of 10th up next!!!

  202. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 5:15 pm

    And a Romo loses big today,

    And a Romo wins big today ๐Ÿ˜‰

    We will not see you tomorrow night!!!! ๐Ÿ˜‰


  203. Capitolist/WassupDoc October 28, 2012 5:24 pm

    Mahalo GIGANTICS!!

  204. chawan_cut October 28, 2012 5:42 pm

    here’s this week’s schedule of schedules. week 9.


  205. papajoe2 October 28, 2012 5:54 pm

    I know that Jackson blocked a kick, but I don’t recall seeing John Hardy-Tuliau. Was he in there to block kicks? Anybody noticed?

  206. cocobean October 28, 2012 6:09 pm

    Too many people confusing their opinion as fact.

  207. leron October 28, 2012 6:21 pm

    # Hardy-Tuliau was in on a few plays. On the first TD by JGW, he was the first to celebrate with him in the end zone

  208. BaddaMo'oMan October 28, 2012 6:36 pm

    Frustrastion can get to many of us at times of adversity. There’s nothing wrong with that. We all have to vent every now and then. Nothing personal, just letting steam out. Better to do it safe on this blog then to take it out pysically on the world. “Inhail my baddah, Swooop!……….Exhail hawn…ahhhhhh……” lol

    Yeaterday Sean Schroeder showed that he can run down field for yards needed when the opportunity comes. I think he needs to build up and have more confidence to do it more often when under pressure and when the pocket collapses. Sean Schroeder will be more effective and more of a threat to defenders who may hesitate on pass coverages which will open more optional targets down field. He also needs to have complete trust in his recievers and place the ball in areas where a reciever will break on the ball. That slight seperation from a defender makes a huge difference in completion percentage. If the ball is thrown late, then you as the QB gave the defender time to catch up and make a play on the ball. Every pass thrown too a reciever relys heavily on timing between the two in order for the to work more efficiently. Without timing, most pass plays will not be productive.

    Our offensive line is not elite so we cannot expect them to hold the rush for more then three seconds. Any added time to that is a privlage and an award. Any time below three seconds means adjustments need to be made in releasing the ball much sooner in order for a pass play to work from the pocket. Long down field pass plays in the pocket maybe out of the play book, but a hitch pass or toss play can be made to a wideout, slotback or running back in order to add time so that recievers would be able to run a long complete down field route.

    Although this is coach Chows first year and he may look and ack like a grumpy old pake on the sidelines, I’m sure he is doing the best that he can to make what ever adjustments needs to be made for the benefit of the team. If he believes that Sean Schroeder will make a turn around by gaining all this adversity and game experiences in order to make him a better quarterback in the upcoming games, than he has my support. I may not agree with all, but still, coach Chow and the team has my support in what ever decisions they make in order to better the team.

    My opinions won’t change the team and win games, but I sure enjoys sharing my thoughts and opinions on this blog with all of you fans.

    Support, No Matter The Reason Or Season!

  209. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 6:55 pm

    chow has lost this team, wake-up warrior fans!!!

    do you really think chow cares about the players HE didn’t recruit?! “this is a big boy’s game”, according to chow… chow is in it for himself.

    the more players quit, transfer, the more schollie he has to get HIS players in…. chow needs to lighten up and support the players that mac recruited, the boyz are not dumb to see what is going on…

    loyalty works both ways, chow only has loyalty to the players HE brought in… sad, but it works that way in a “big boys game” and not just here, but all over the country where D1 football is played. it takes a special coach to embrace ALL players under his tutelage.

    chow needs to remember his roots,da bugga been away so long, i think he lost his way. IMHO!

  210. d1shima October 28, 2012 7:15 pm

    Welcome Josh Long!

  211. Slugger October 28, 2012 7:24 pm

    We scored points…we’re getting better.


  212. cee808 October 28, 2012 7:39 pm

    Mr Donovan praised a lot of people for there roles in making the coaching change. That was a time of great hope and optimism for the new “Rainbow Warriors” coach, as the video shows. But when things don’t go well, that is the time (I think) University leaders should step up and express their support for the players and the coaching staff. The team is 1-6, and seems unlikely to win more than one or two more games this season. If this year’s failures are the result of the system change and the need for recruits that better fit the system, then I don’t see why the coach and team shouldn’t expect public support from University leaders. Maybe I have missed the interviews, but I don’t recall hearing/seeing any 1420 or SA interviews. This sends a poor message to potential recruits and fans. That’s my opinion, anyway.


  213. d1shima October 28, 2012 7:39 pm

    Incidentally, since one of the Tsaikos is regularly citing references to a certain blog, it may be good to know the POV the blogger holds.

    (emphasis is mine)

    One thing of note, in the midst of this divisive election seasonโ€“at least one couple who we invited up the hill last night are Republicans (gasp!!), although they havenโ€™t put up any Romney signs this year. Another couple are likely reliable Democratic votes. Others, I donโ€™t know and wouldnโ€™t want to guess. At our neighborhood level, we relate and form friendships in which partisan politics are somewhat irrelevant. We actually avoid bringing up political issues because we donโ€™t want to tap that level of potential disagreement. In their absence, weโ€™ve got lots of things we easily agree on. And, to top it off, our Republican friends are really nice people, and theyโ€™ve got some great dogs!


  214. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 7:42 pm

    uhhh…. how many times we had da ball within the opponents 30 yard line? one and six team with a 3rd string QB playing….. lose by 15 points….YEAH, WE GETTING BETTER.

  215. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 7:46 pm

    Slugger # 219 got it right (and goes to HIFF, which is a +, ๐Ÿ˜‰ ) . . . and others like us got it right. We don’t drink the proverbial cool aid; drinking the cool aid is “change the QB, change the QB” after the 20th time it was said (and that’s being conservative about it ๐Ÿ™‚ ).

    Josh Long of Riverside College said he has accepted a football scholarship from the Warriors.

    Long is 6-4 and 240.

    He said he expects to enroll at UH in January.

    Congratulations, Josh Long. Welcome to the University of Hawaii football team.

    UH football got scholarships to give. So, there,

    To naysayers: awwwww, so attendance will go down because of Warrior football current “losing” streak? What? You not gonna renew your season tickets? Really? Ot gonna get the TV season pass to UH sports?

    Sounds like you were merely looking for an excuse not to renew. Good riddance.

    Stay out of the way of the REAL fans, fair weather fans!!!!! Go listen Johnny Gill Fairweather Friend the rest of your life, put on REPEAT on ya’ll music player; tha’s the only song you’ll ever need to listen to.

    Warriors will lose as much as YOU lose.

    Take care.

    # # #

  216. SAWARRIOR October 28, 2012 7:53 pm

    195. our warriors are 33.5 dogs?! say it aint sooooo……. yeah, new system, young players, injuries…. keep fooling yourselves folks. it all comes down to chow, and him looking himself in da mirror. da bugga gotta change his ways.

  217. cee808 October 28, 2012 7:53 pm

    It took several rewrites ๐Ÿ™‚

  218. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 8:13 pm

    Would love to know how the heck the SPAM of # 216 managed to get her website cited at the end of her post.

    Thought only certain people were allowed Internet link references.

    Oh, well. More power to the SPAMMERS.

  219. Moocher October 28, 2012 8:15 pm


    in my book a player earns his way into the line-up…he doesn’t “deserve” to be in the line-up unless he’s done something extraordinary. deserving players are high school seniors who aren’t the best but the coach lets them start the last game of the year.

    lots of “i know how chows” here.

    “ask not what chow can do for you, ask chow what you can do for your team”.

  220. Slugger October 28, 2012 8:15 pm

    Welcome, Josh Long!

    Hawaii has vog, but it’s not as bad as the smog in Riverside. Enjoy being here!

  221. kev-1 October 28, 2012 8:16 pm

    Just watched Inside Access. The players were surprisingly upbeat after the game. That is a good sign. I wouldn’t go as far as saying that Chow has lost the team. Sure, there are unhappy players. And I agree that there seems to be some questionable treatment of some of the previous players. But we as fans have to remember that we see everything in hindsight and don’t often know the whole story.

    With that in mind, I maintain that I am frustrated, but will hold onto hope. Not head-in-the cloud-type hope, more like stubborn-UH-fan-type hope. I will always pick my Warriors, even if I know they may lose. That is what this fan and an alum decides to do.

  222. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 8:19 pm

    How embarrassing.

    # 224


    Warriors will lose as much as YOU lose.

    There should’ve been a “not” between “will” and “lose” in the above quote, originally from a Grease’s post # 224.

    Warriors will not lose as much as YOU lose.

    Heheh. d1shima on a Political Radar. Look at your poltical badself where politics should be discussed :). .

  223. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 8:27 pm

    # 229 . . . Moocher channelling JFK. Love it ๐Ÿ™‚

    # 231. Well, kev-1 . . . it’s that naysayers don’t want to or refuse to believe that Coach Chow’s building a program for the long run.

    Hope you’re keeping tabs of all the naysayers right now on this board. A Grease is; if just to have a big laugh seeing the night and day messages of their posts now and then later when Chow’s team DOES get those wins.

    Because they will. And we’ll see who had the real cool aid supply.

  224. PolyMom October 28, 2012 8:41 pm

    Chicken Grease I am with you 100 percent.

  225. Stephen Tsai October 28, 2012 8:42 pm

    There apparently is a correlation between people who are the grumpiest and have few Twitter followers. I noticed somebody has 10 followers.

    There was this other guy who has 25 Facebook friends.

    I’m just saying.

  226. Stephen Tsai October 28, 2012 8:51 pm

    I remember people were mad that Bryant Moniz started ahead of Shane Austin.

    And then they were mad when Shane Austin started ahead of David Graves.

    And then they were mad when Jeremy Higgins took the lead over David Graves.

    And so it goes.

    There was anger when a certain defensive lineman didn’t play enough a couple of years ago. I remember the mom approached McMackin and demanded to know why her son wasn’t playing enough. McMackin said it was Dave Aranda’s call. Aranda said: “What?”

    There was a guy who was a candidate for the coaching job. A former player goes on Facebook and rips the candidate as being a horrible coach. The candidate gets another job. He hires that player.

    In good times or bad, there’s always going to be unhappiness if somebody is or isn’t playing.

  227. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 8:54 pm

    # 230. Mr. Tsai. Hello and aloha. A Grease takes it you were still in Denver @ the time of the Pseudonami scare? All A-OK w/you and family?

  228. manoa#1 October 28, 2012 8:55 pm

    #128 shoko that was their 3rd string freshman qb. he should’nt have pass for 100 yds.

  229. Stephen Tsai October 28, 2012 8:58 pm

    The point is when you can’t get more than 10 people (and. maybe half are real people) to care what you think, you just have to go to a larger forum. And while you might have some really good insights, when you scream all of the time, then it goes back to the original premise: Why don’t more than five friends or family care what you have to say?

  230. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 8:59 pm


    October 28th, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    Chicken Grease I am with you 100 percent.

    Indeed, PolyMom. Keep on. Need more words as yours here on The Warrior Beat.

  231. nanakuli October 28, 2012 9:03 pm

    Stephen Tsai thank you for this informative and educational blog.

  232. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 9:06 pm

    # 236, a Grease seconds nanakuli’s sentiment. Hear, hear!!!!

  233. Stephen Tsai October 28, 2012 9:13 pm

    Now, as an example, there are two posters that have brash styles but whom I’ll read: Derek and Kevin.

    Now Derek is quite critical, sometimes to the point of harshness, but I’ve studied his posts for a while and there’s an absence of malice. He makes his points. Maybe I’d agree, maybe I don’t. But he doesn’t repeat and he at least tries to have constructive comments.

    What’s good about Kevin is that he’s a doer. He understands the problems, voices them quite loudly, but also tries to be part of the solution.

    People can voice any opinion they wish, but โ€” as their mothers should have taught them โ€” they need to be respectful of other people’s opinions. I was part of a debate team once. You don’t win arguments by saying the other side is “stupid” or “drinks Kool-Aid.”

  234. kev-1 October 28, 2012 9:26 pm

    + 1 for Derek and Kevin

  235. Moocher October 28, 2012 9:26 pm

    Tsai…. unless that person is bill o’really with a show on the sux news network, i agree ๐Ÿ™‚

  236. kapakahi October 28, 2012 9:27 pm

    JMHO that getting a mid-year JC TE transfer commit can only be interpreted as the Coach feeling that the position needs immediate help….considering that all other TEs (Clark, Cofer, Hall, Moleni, Watanabe) supposedly return next season.

    From every thing the coaches have been saying, DL….especially DT…..seems to bethe main recruiting “need” area…..over TE.

    SO while nice to get Long, JMHO that would be even nicer for Warriors to land Long’s RCC JC teammates DE Tua’au & DT/DE Fenumiai too.

    Hopefully Warriors still going after Mililani Trojan Dakota Turner (currently a San Diego State Aztec verbal commit)….who can play either TE or DL. Kinda of a late bloomer….like former Warriors (and fellow Mililani alums) Jake & Lucas Ingram.

  237. kev-1 October 28, 2012 9:29 pm

    My favorite part about Inside Access?

    Kekaula’s aloha shirts.

    Second favorite part?

    ST’s segments. They remind me that these guys that play on the field are real people.

  238. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 9:32 pm

    Uh, yeah, there are a lot of astute gems within the whole “change the QB” (a Grease’ll use that as an umbrella expression; a Grease is not affiliated with the Umbrella Corp., by the way.) rhetoric.

    Heh, it’s Kevin’s “12/21/2012” mentions that’s, uh, a little loopy. ๐Ÿ™‚

    But, a Grease learns many things from this blog.

    # # #

  239. manoa#1 October 28, 2012 9:33 pm


    u heard anything about darius bright.??

  240. Moocher October 28, 2012 9:33 pm


    good point.

    yes, why a TE with so many horses in the stable?

    obviously the head pake’ see something in those bifocals that we don’t?

  241. Moocher October 28, 2012 9:38 pm

    too bad chow cant find glasses that will display him a live stream from a camera up in the booth like how he’s used to seeing things.

    hmmmm??? ipad mini along with the folder coach?

    can his editing team set it up? would it work?

  242. kev-1 October 28, 2012 9:41 pm

    The true TEs that we have on the roster are young yet, with the exception of Hall. Gotta be looking for that experience. Aren’t most of our current TE’s converted from different positions? I recall Watanabe recruited as a TE, but he’s redshirting (right?). There was another young one that was recruited as a TE, but I forget his name.

  243. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 9:43 pm

    # 242 kev-1, A Grease likes Tsai’s and Coach Chow’s appearances on the show.

    The aesthetics of the show needs to upped, though. Reminiscent of Robocop reality’s “I’ll buy THAT for a dollar” stylings.

  244. kapakahi October 28, 2012 9:49 pm


    Don’t forget that TE #94 Clark Evans (a mid-year JC transfer from Cerritos College)….who dropped a potential TD pass last night….was also one of Chow’s first commits.

    My guess is that Chow was originally counting on Evans to bring the experience…..that Cofer, Hall, Moleni, Watanabe didn’t have coming into this season.

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  246. Chicken Grease October 28, 2012 9:50 pm

    # 223 . . . looks like the original # 216’s been deleted; still how DID that sassy woman get her Internet link posted A-OK and right away? Tsai, talk to your tech’ guys, heh ๐Ÿ™‚ .

    Watching Alien vs. Ninja right now. Played at Hawaii IFF a few years ago accordinto the person who sent a Grease this “movie.” Hilarious!

  247. kev-1 October 28, 2012 9:53 pm

    yes, kapakahi – Clark. That’s right, he was a transfer, not a freshman.

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  249. Not an Expert October 28, 2012 10:09 pm

    Food for thought Coach Chow.

    I tend to believe that SS will not be your starting QB next year. If my synopsis is somewhat correct why not put in another QB and see what can unfold. It cannot be any worse than what SS has done.

    If SS is your QB and you know in your heart no recruits or redshirts will be able to unseat him, than fine. Keep him in for the rest of the season being you know that he will be the catalyst next year to help turn things around due to his experience of this year. As I mentioned if you know the talent coming in or the redshirt QB more than likely will unseat SS, than you need to allow the others some playing time. However I believe you need to get unstuck from your position of SS and for morale sake change the QB.

  250. Bleed Green and White October 28, 2012 10:22 pm

    (183 kev-1)

    I understand how one could like Kanoa “kev-1), but for me, it’s too much of the same. Too much, like his dad, “about them / me”, and not enough about the kids or the game.

    I like Kekaula because his style comes across more “real”, more “not about him”, way more entertaining.

    I do agree, that the two together though, would be “the best”

    Great idea sir (kev-1)

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  252. kalani October 28, 2012 10:42 pm


    Well said. I think a guy like Shutter who has shown himself to be a team player by helping Moniz when he had no reason to and staying after practice to help a guy like Edwards be a better DB could inspire his teammates to rally for the rest of the season.

  253. Hank October 28, 2012 10:48 pm

    I remember when our punter Alex was a freshman. When he would go back to punt I would cringe because you didn’t know if he was going to go for 40 or shank it. The next year he was better than average. This year I think he’s one of the best.

  254. Hank October 28, 2012 10:49 pm

    Last year, esp after after our UNLV game…there were some calling for Moniz to get benched and to bring on David. Well, Moniz got hurt and we got our wish. We all know how the year ended.

  255. Hank October 28, 2012 10:56 pm

    Although most (esp at this time of night) may disagree…I think SS is the least of our problems. We are awfully young at a lot of positions. Many of our starters are freshmen or sophomores (esp on the Oline). I enjoy immediate gratification as much as anyone; but sometimes you gotta hit a bunch of shanks before you get it straight.

  256. Hank October 28, 2012 11:03 pm

    Of the freshmen or Sophomores…I think Joey, Will, Marrell, Yap, Ben Clarke (love this guy), Jerrol, Benny Fonua, Nequan, Samia and Blake have a chance to be real studs. We have much to look forward to.

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  258. 3-Prong October 28, 2012 11:12 pm

    Thinking that maybe the idea behind socking up on tight ends is the possibility of converting some of them as they mature and bulk up into OTs that can alredy move their feet. The ones they been signing have decent height (6’4ish) to start with. DEs these days are super athletic so got to match the speed.

  259. 3-Prong October 28, 2012 11:19 pm

    260 Hank: Sometimes when I keep shanking the ball I also change clubs and start connecting. Hehe

    261: Good assessment.

  260. Stephen Tsai October 28, 2012 11:45 pm

    Whether people like Schroeder or not, he’s doing the best of the available quarterbacks in practices.

  261. SteveM October 29, 2012 12:12 am

    Well, the drama is cranked up to maximum now… with 6 losses we gotta win out to get to the Hawaii Bowl ๐Ÿ˜

    OK, as CB’ers from 30 years ago might say… “to all of ya who still got your ears on, this is SteveM going 10-10 on the side and catch you on the flip flop.”

    Going 10-100 too…


  262. Moocher October 29, 2012 1:36 am


    they say practice makes permanent. in your opinion what is “gap” between practices and games?

    it seems coach always says we had a good week of practice. so in your opinion what is happening where the good week of practice is not rolling into a good game?

    is it:



    execution is lacking


    it seems we prep and prep and prep and the final product doesn’t arrive. any opinion why?

    …and yes I do agree with you on shroeder.

    i’d like to see him produce…but i know for that happen a lot of other things must happen in unison…including things he does too.

  263. J October 29, 2012 1:43 am


    Hey, the air quality here in the IE is better now than say, even 20 years ago. At that time when I first visited the area, I thought I developed a sudden onset of asthma when out for a run. That doesn’t happen now, then again neither does the jogging :-D.

    The smog levels have visibly decreased in the time since my parents were going to school here in the mid-1960’s. Back then, they didn’t know there were mountains around here in the summer.

  264. wafan October 29, 2012 2:39 am

    Good Monday, all!

  265. wafan October 29, 2012 2:41 am

    Aloha to Bright and Long.

    Good journey to Bright and welcome Warrior Long!

  266. 99club October 29, 2012 3:43 am

    Good morning, wafan.

    Just back from my trip to Fort Collins and have a few notes.

    First and foremost: someone needs to invent a cup holder/glove that is gyro-stabilized so that you don’t spill your hot cocoa when your hand is shivering. Garret?

    It was good to meet maddog50 before and after the game to chat Warrior football. Hope you and your family had a safe trip home.

    I loved Fort Collins, nice little town. Easy to get around and lots and lots of great places to eat and drink. I’ll be back.

    The Hilton Hotel rocks. Free shuttle to/from downtown up to 10 pm and the rooms are nice. New Belgium products on tap in the bar at only $3.50 a pint on game day was a bonus.

    Fan turnout: It was easy to see who bought tickets for the UH section (I). The first 10 rows or so were packed with priority ticket holders. Then there were about 20 rows of EMPTY seats that were probably set aside for tour groups that obviously weren’t sold. And then there were the top 10 rows of individual/non-priority ticket buyers.

    Can’t add anything to game comments other than I thought our receivers got mugged a few times…doubt the result would have been different if penalties were called.

  267. LizKauai (iPad) October 29, 2012 4:13 am

    Praying for our east coast ohana.

    Blessings and protection!

  268. LizKauai (iPad) October 29, 2012 4:18 am

    BTW, I love our QB. He just keeps on ticking and does his best. No headhanging and no blaming.

    I look forward to seeing the whole team having fun playing football again.

    Then the wins will come.


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  270. mokumanu October 29, 2012 4:52 am

    I thought they looked much improved in the first quarter and that was a sample of how the offense is suppose to run and the defense plays top gun. I saw improvements but what was most important was the vision Chow has. I think he’s trying to make Hawaii football a perennial contender as a matter of basics like the big time schools whether rebuilding or reloading or whatever and not constantly subject to shfiting coaching styles. IMO, The big schools have a certain foundation and tradition they’ve always maintained no matter the coach and that goes a long way torward establishing a solid identity. Perhaps, that is what he’s trying to do here. Anyway, I was disappointed in the loss but heartened by most of what I saw.

  271. Wes'side Warrior October 29, 2012 4:59 am

    Howzit, Gang!

    Just reading along, chuckling here and there at the varied comments… and then I come across this by ST:

    You don’t win arguments by saying the other side is “stupid” or “drinks Kool-Aid.”

    But, it sure works with Main Stream Media and politics!


    Have a great day, everyone! The sun is up, it’s freezing here, and almost Halloween… (which means we’re nearing November… which means December is almost here… which means all kinds of other stuffszes!)

  272. Shoko October 29, 2012 5:38 am

    Morning and Happy Halloween!

  273. d1shima October 29, 2012 5:38 am

    Great Morning All!

    Prayers for the 60+M people that Sandy is likely to affect.

  274. Shoko October 29, 2012 5:40 am

    Can’t wait to hear the morning callers on the BC. Should be good stuff!

  275. Manoa October 29, 2012 5:46 am

    Schroeder’s primary experience is in the spread offense in high school and college and not the pro set according to an email I got from someone who knows him. Not sure if Duke has been in spread offense for all of his time ther, but Duke runs a spread.

    Chow has been as tough as anyone on the guy– maybe too tough. He was shown on TV yelling and gesturing at him when he walked over to to Chow, then Chow walked away from him– looked like Chow lost his temper. One of the problems is Chow should not have his head in his charts– he should be giving some instruction to his staff and players– he should hire an offensive coordinator.

  276. GA Warrior October 29, 2012 5:59 am

    Chow’s continued stubbornness to not play another qb is just another example of how this game has passed him by. Schroeder is not the answer, what are you saying to your other players that everyone else can bench or replaced if they are not doing the job, but the one player who makes the most decisions in the game, gets a free pass on his performance. He was 19 for 46 against a defense that was ranked 121st in the nation before the game. Another qb cannot do any worse, but Chow won’t budge and that is why we are where we are.

    I would love to know why the local media (1420 and the star advertiser) just sit back and dont take Chow to task on this, they seem to be covering and defending him. Amazing! He is paid to get results, dont see any so far.

  277. Da Punchbowl Kid October 29, 2012 6:06 am

    Good Morning Gangeez!

    Continued prayers for those in Sandy’s path. May the Lord be with them.

    Polymom, Slugger, Cee –

    Nice to see you folks posting. Thanks for the Aloha.

  278. Slugger October 29, 2012 6:06 am

    Good morning, gang!

    J, good to hear the air quality is better in Riverside. Decades ago the smog would come wafting into my boyfriend’s apt. when we had the door open for air flow.

    Have a great day in Hawaii nei!

  279. d1shima October 29, 2012 6:14 am

    I would love to know why the local media (1420 and the star advertiser) just sit back and dont take Chow to task on this, they seem to be covering and defending him. Amazing! He is paid to get results, dont see any so far.

    They’ve noticed.

    Read ’em and weep.

    Stephen Tsai:

    October 28th, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    Whether people like Schroeder or not, he’s doing the best of the available quarterbacks in practices.

  280. Old School Dave October 29, 2012 6:33 am

    Just an observation from family and friends on the mainland, in that Kanoa Leahy is easier for people there to understand on the UH broadcasts. Robert Kekaula’s accent is kinda hard for mainland folk (not local) to understand. Just what they told me, not a criticism. IMHO, Kanoa did do a good job, along with Darnell Arceneux (who I think should be coaching somewhere).

  281. Da Punchbowl Kid October 29, 2012 6:39 am

    Oh yeah –

    A special howdy to Ms. Liz too!

    And to my favorite friend from the right, D1shima! ๐Ÿ˜‰

  282. A-House October 29, 2012 6:50 am


    d1 is from the “right”? do you mean conservative right? or from the right side of the room?

  283. Candy October 29, 2012 6:53 am

    I don’t always agree with Dave Reardon of the Star Advertiser but today he is Right On with playing another quarterback besides Schroeder. I am not that much of a football guru but nothing he is doing seems that complicated and whatever it is, he is doing it badly and doesn’t need any more practice for next year. The team might even get a standing ovation and spur them on to a great performance if the Coach sent in another quarterback—and I’m not talking about the last three plays up the middle on another failed effort. There is always talk of support for the team and I agree 100%. There is also something like a little support for the diehard fans which seems overdo. The team needs a spark and SS isn’t doing it.

  284. mo808 October 29, 2012 7:07 am

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  285. mo808 October 29, 2012 7:10 am

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  286. WarriorNY October 29, 2012 7:20 am

    Fresno State coach sounds like a pretty cool dude…

  287. WarriorNY October 29, 2012 7:31 am

    Thanks to the well-wishers again about the storm… No worries, I’ll be fine…

    I was listening to BC’s show online since I was off of work from the storm and wanted to call in and make a comment. I got hung up on twice… That’s just not cool… It’s one thing to get a busy signal but to get through to someone who than says sure hold on then get hung up on is just ridiculous…

  288. WarriorNY October 29, 2012 7:32 am

    Morning all, btw,

    Enjoy your days! (except if you work for the BC show) haha jk

  289. tommui October 29, 2012 7:33 am


    And prayers for those in Sandy’s path.

  290. wowlaulau October 29, 2012 7:43 am

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    The thing I don’t understand is if that everyone that does not agree with you does not have football knowledge. Why do you post here? Why waste your time on people who don’t know football? I would think with your superior football knowledge you would want to communicate your expertise with the coaches and players. Just man-up and do something constructive about it instead of making the same whining point over and over and over.

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