Mild Monday

On Saturday, the Rainbow Warriors had an off day against Oregon State.

Today, they have a day off. (The Warriors have a bye this weekend.)

When they resume with a light practice tomorrow, wide receiver Billy Ray Stutzmann and offensive lineman Dejon Allen will get opportunities to earn extended playing time. Stutzmann, who missed all of training camp because of a concussion suffered in a July car accident, was not on the 66-player travel roster this past weekend. Allen rotated between the offensive and defensive lines before finding a home on offense.

Linebacker Brenden Daley, safety/long-snapper Kawika Borden and safety Trayvon Henderson suffered injuries against OSU. Those three — as well as running back Joey Iosefa, tight end Jordan Pu‘u-Robinson and defensive tackle Kennedy Tulimasealii — are expected to be ready for the Sept. 21 road game against Nevada.

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The Warriors will have full practices on Wednesday and Thursday.

There will be a scrimmage on Friday involving players who are redshirting or have not had a lot of playing time this season. Quarterback Ikaika Woolsey and running back Diocomey Saint Juste are expected to be the featured players.

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What’s the biggest attraction to Oregon State? It’s the facilities. They’re not just better than UH’s. They’re 10 times better.


  1. Buffoman September 9, 2013 7:47 am

    Wow, may be top 5!

  2. Buffoman September 9, 2013 7:49 am

    ST is there any thought that DSJ may red shirt this year since Joey will be coming back and it appears that Lakalaka and Wily have somewhat of the inside track to back Joey up?

  3. jeezy33 September 9, 2013 7:51 am

    I think Puu Robinson is going to be a huge addition if he can stay healthy… Would be a big upgrade to our blocking and safety blanket for 3rd downs.

  4. RedZone September 9, 2013 7:55 am

    I am so happy that the Warriors are healthy and good to go for the Nevada game. Last year this was not the case. Watching Brenden go down brought back some bad memories.

    Warriors stay healthy and keep fighting.

  5. tommui September 9, 2013 7:55 am


    Good to hear that the injured will be OK for Reno.

  6. Marleysdad September 9, 2013 7:57 am

    Top 10.

  7. jm2375 September 9, 2013 7:57 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Hope all the Warriors with owees heal up soon, but correctly.

    Had a great time this weekend at Wahine Volleyball. Friday and Saturday were just awesome!

    The 5 Fs were definitely in plentiful supply at the tv-gate, even though the Warriors lost. Great to meet RainbowCliff and ohana and Boolakanaka.

    GO BOWS!


  8. Ipu Man September 9, 2013 8:01 am

    Wow, Chowan-cut, thanks for the great link this morning. Here it is again for you who missed it: How UH opponents fared:

  9. jm2375 September 9, 2013 8:01 am

    Oh yeah…



  10. Marleysdad September 9, 2013 8:02 am

    I was a little baffled watching Daley lay on the field & trying to get up & having the trainers keep holding him down. Then the stretcher comes out, then the ambulance. All this for a concussion? Hope he is alright & is able to return quickly.

  11. dannyp September 9, 2013 8:15 am

    DSJ played versus USC so we can’t redshirt him.

  12. Buffoman September 9, 2013 8:18 am

    #12 forgot about that one, I believe you are spot on on that call, thanks.

  13. PeteJek September 9, 2013 8:22 am

    Please fix the offense. Its ineptitude is depressing.

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  15. Hank September 9, 2013 8:56 am

    Hope Allen Sampson can get some playing – I remember him as a playmaker before his injury.

  16. Hank September 9, 2013 8:57 am

    Billy, Allen and Donnie King Jr.

  17. Hank September 9, 2013 8:58 am

    TG showed improvement – but the drops….ouch.

  18. Hank September 9, 2013 8:59 am

    Too bad couldn’t drop the one on the 1-yard line and catch the one for the first down. What a mental game.

  19. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal September 9, 2013 9:17 am

    on a kinda unrelated note, when did colin kaepernick become so good at throwing the ball? I don’t remember him being exceptionally accurate back when he was playing for nevada.

  20. Jeezy33 September 9, 2013 9:23 am

    I think we’re making too big of a deal with drops… I think timing of our routes and running the proper routes are an issue, but the drops are not as impactful as many are making it out to be. The only drop that stands out to me as critical was gant drop on 3rd down .. The Moleni drop early in the game was a 4 yard check down completion that didnt make a huge difference in my opinion .. It might have made the 3rd down more manageable but considering we were 1-12 on 3rd, I don’t see it as a huge drop that changed the game.. If people are counting the Haynes drop down the field, then that’s crazy because TG forced it between 3 guys that probably would have got Haynes injured if he somehow came down with that ball.. Then there was a drop when Harding Haynes or kirkwood ran into Harding on the route and the defender got his hands right on front of the pass to make it a tough catch anyway. I forget who it was but I blame the route that was ran over the drop because that ball was also forced in between 2 guys and that wasnt TG fault though …

    I don’t see hands as a real issue right now besides gant should have caught that easy 3rd down pass

  21. Stephen Tsai September 9, 2013 9:33 am

    Saint Juste won’t redshirt. He would have played more but the situation called for a better blocker. That’s Lakalaka.

  22. al September 9, 2013 9:33 am

    jm2375…there are no oweees in football. ping pong perhaps.

  23. al September 9, 2013 9:35 am

    enter the smurfs.

    Donny king, Sampson, and the big smurf billy ray. okay, harding too.

  24. Stephen Tsai September 9, 2013 9:38 am

    UH announced Manoa enrollment is slightly down, following national trend. No mention of 7 percent hike this year and each of the ensuing years.

  25. Stephen Tsai September 9, 2013 9:41 am

    A little math here. Say tuition is $100. A 7 percent increase makes it $107. Now is the next 7 percent based on the original b$100, making it a $7 raise, or the the $107? If it’s the latter, the raise is actually higher — dollar amount — each year.

  26. Buffoman September 9, 2013 9:45 am

    I believe that the current o-line will continue to improve as they play together more. Run blocking is an issue not just confined to the Warrior o-line. It has to be improved no doubt but it is easier said than done (look at the NY Giants and Packers).

    I was just amazed at how efficient the offense looked on that 80 yd, 0 play drive and then how absolutely befuddled they looked at others. Those running plays that Lakalaka had in that drive were beautiful, not long but effective.

  27. Jonj September 9, 2013 9:49 am

    I think we should give Schroeder and TG the start in the scout bowl! For god sakes they’re “reps” guys! Haha

  28. (Jesse)James September 9, 2013 9:49 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!!

    One Team. One Game. One Goal.

  29. (Jesse)James September 9, 2013 9:52 am

    The offense just needs to find its rythm and we’ll be ok. Receivers need to use the jugs machine until they can catch anything and everything….but again, we’ll be ok.

  30. (Jesse)James September 9, 2013 9:52 am

    Nice to meet Boolakanaka on Saturday, along with seeing the Rainbow Cliff ohana again….it was all good.

  31. Marleysdad September 9, 2013 9:56 am

    Jonj, that’s actually the smartest thing you have ever said. Hell, they should play all the 1’s & 2’s.

  32. A-TEAM September 9, 2013 10:03 am

    After replaying the game and putting it in Slo-mo. Our OL didn’t do too shabby. Maybe if we can get the skilled side to sustain their blocks to slow down the secondary instead of having then crash the ball. And please CATCH THE BALL. OL is getting better. I didn’t see any trick plays. Run-Block-score. Heal up Warriors.

  33. madeinhawaii September 9, 2013 10:16 am

    I, too, thought the OL did an okay job considering who they were playing.

  34. BigWave96744 September 9, 2013 10:23 am

    The scary this is Oregon’s facilities are 10x better than Oregon St.

  35. BigWave96744 September 9, 2013 10:34 am

    #11 dannyp a player can play in the first 3 games and still get a medical redshirt..

    Oh, but I’m not to wishing any injury on anyone to get of eligibility back

  36. oldtimer808 September 9, 2013 10:37 am

    #10 it was all precautionary in the event it was more than a concussion. You have to understand there are several degrees of concussion and the medical staff had to check for any cervical damage.

  37. Haleakala September 9, 2013 10:39 am

    The two break between games comes at a good time.

  38. NotNasti September 9, 2013 10:40 am

    If we upgraded our athletic facilities (and we should), could you imagine the uproar at the legislature over the “extravagant” spending? There would be more hearings and audits and investigations. I always thought that an athlete’s dorm with a swimming pool, hot tub and barbeque area (see MTV Spring Break) would be an excellent recruiting tool. Nothing like babes in bikinis (in addition to better facilities) to secure the 4-5 star recruit.

  39. al September 9, 2013 10:45 am

    st. that would be how it works. its called compounding.

  40. koakane ® September 9, 2013 10:47 am

    morning 808, rainbow wahines, tsaikettes, rainbow warriors and tsaikos 😎

    vball wahines drop one spot to 🙄 10 in current NCAA polls. fball and wsoccer no rankings.

  41. LEAHI2 September 9, 2013 10:48 am

    Look folks, just because our pass receivers dropped a few passes for incompletions shouldn’t mean that we must lose the game. The game goes on for 60 minutes of playing time. What should our team be doing offensively? Run or Pass? we seem to be fair Defensively. I believe we have some petty good talent on this team but they are poorly coached!Yeah many of you say “wait until next year”! Next year? What good HS player wants to play for a loser? Wake up Chow! Win now or else! By the way, returning a kick off by stepping out of bounds at your own one yard line is #*$@ stupid! This kind of stupidity permeates the team’s mentality!

  42. BigWave96744 September 9, 2013 10:49 am

    Word around Eugene is that After OSU won the the World Series in 2006, Oregon decided to restart their baseball program because they couldn’t stand OSU getting the lime light. They topped OSU by building an awesome baseball stadium right next to their football stadium.

    Also congrats to Coach Bud for beating both Oregon & OSU in women’s soccer.

    Oregon’s soccer field awesome, as well

  43. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal September 9, 2013 10:50 am

    NotNasti: it’s tough. yeah, athletic facilities do need the upgrade and will be a good recruiting tool, but for the state to earmark x millions of dollars for renovation especially given the maintenance backlog at UH in general and the conditions of the buildings, pay for professors, and increase in tuition, funding cuts to upper campus, the fact that the UH athletic department consistently runs in the red (like most other college football programs), it would be a tough sell. there would be more than an uproar at the legislature, but on the campus itself. and to me, i would have a hard time disagreeing with them.

  44. chawan_cut September 9, 2013 10:51 am

    this week’s opponent’s schedule results.

    i always seem to post last on the previous blog and no one reads it.

  45. J-FORCE September 9, 2013 10:54 am

    Beautiful day in Hawaii Nei.

    Go Rainbow Warriors!!

    Go Rainbow Wahines!!

  46. koakane ® September 9, 2013 10:55 am

    mho, offense has to jell now, all phases has to comes together. pieces at a time wont do it. season will be over. coach chow has to come up with the fixit solution or it will get out of hand.

    no doom and gloom basic facts.

    still will be there to see them rainbow warriors.

  47. NotNasti September 9, 2013 10:57 am

    Chawan, maybe ST waits for your post and then starts the new thread? Conspiracy? Maybe . . .

  48. koakane ® September 9, 2013 10:58 am

    #45 J-force yes it is and the ocean 😀 was good also

  49. koakane ® September 9, 2013 11:00 am

    beeg congrats to coach bud and her ladies for sweeping oregon team in wsoccer. cheering

  50. NotNasti September 9, 2013 11:04 am

    Johnny Manziel: I agree with your last post. It would be nice if we could find a benefactor like Phil Knight. Hard for us to justify spending so much money for athletics. However, PAC-12 schools (other than Oregon) seem to be able to print money for such endeavors. I have been to both the OSU and UW campuses and have wondered how they were able to finance their athletic facilities. Although, they do not seem to have a problem with facilities maintenance. UW’s campus is absolutely gorgeous. But they have Paul Allen and Bill Gates (Microsoft) as benefactors.

  51. Former UH Athlete September 9, 2013 11:12 am

    Oline did better in pass protection. It was a combination of the new guys playing better and OSU not blitzing the heck out of the UH Line. USC was ultra aggressive. OSU played more straight up, plus the top line talent wasn’t as good as USC’s front.

    The run blocking is in serious need of work. Lakalaka just had zero room to run. He’s a big boy and has the ability to drive an extra couple yards after contact, which was the majority of his yards as he was consistently getting hit at the line of scrimmage.

    Nevada scouting…

    The good news for UH is that they have two weeks to prepare for Nevada. Also, Nevada also has to travel to play at Florida St this weekend for a nice payday. Surely, they figure to get whacked by FSU. Nevada’s weak point is their defense. They were completely outclassed vs UCLA, and even though they cruised to victory over UC Davis, they gave up 4.7ypc in total rushing. Luuga, the Davis RB, was able to go for 6.2ypc (81yards).

    Nevada’s front 4 are small. Only 280lbs at the DT and 255-260lb at DE. All the pre-season previews pointed out the defense as a major concern. Nevada ranked 110th in run defense in 2012 and none of the UNR material I could find really were high on the defensive recruits. Nevada only got 2 DTs & 0 DEs in their 2013 class, so basically no upgrades on the DLine. Nevada lost their best player in MLB Albert Rossette to graduation. Only 1 returning starter in the back 7. UCLA gashed Nevada on the ground, averaging 7.3ypc. In fact, none of the primary rushers averaged fewer than 6ypc.

    Fajardo had a major scare as a defender hit him in the knee late on a pass attempt at the end of the 1st half. Turned out to be minor and he returned… Interestingly, HC Brian Polian quickly took blame.

    –Brian Polian said. “I was very relieved to find out (Fajardo’s injury) was nothing major. … We should have been handing the ball off. That’s not Rolo (offensive coordinator Nick Rolovich). That’s me.”

    –Interesting only because Rolo is calling all the plays for Nevada. Polian is trying to take heat off of Rolo.

    UH must attack Nevada’s small Dline. If they gave up 4.7ypc to UC Davis, I have full confidence UH can run on them. Chow’s offense needs the run game to be effective to open up the deep balls. WIth an extra week to prepare and Nevada having to travel cross country to get crushed, I think we might steal a road win.

    Nevada also lost their #1 RB to graduation… Stefphon Jefferson was a beast, but now he’s gone. Too early to tell how good their replacements are. Fajardo and Oline are solid and the WRs are good. Phillips and Maggitt will need good games. Hopefully Marrell Jackson will be back as he was missed last Saturday.

  52. haka September 9, 2013 11:17 am

    How about those Wahine!

    Great job by the SoccerBows!

    Road wins are special!

    Great job by the VolleyBows too!

    Got the wins for Dave!

    And it’s always a joy to beat the Bruins!

    Go Warriors!

    Work hard and focus!

    I believe that good things are coming!

  53. tommui September 9, 2013 11:28 am

    #50 Notnasti

    Don’t forget the $$$ that they get from the Pac12 TV package. If memory serves, it’s over 12mil which is a lot of pennies more than we get from Oceanic (2plus mil).

  54. Think2Much September 9, 2013 11:41 am

    One stat that sticks out, OSU had 57 yards rushing on 33 attempts vs. UH 69 yds on 25 attempts. Longest run 9 yds. This is telling you something about the D front.

    Another stat: the running back Storm Woods had 7 receptions to match their top receiver. Does this mean the QB is going through his progressions or were they designed plays?

    UH had 4 drops. Graham 10 for 20, 50% completion rate, 95 yds. If 14 of 20, that’s 75% completion rate.

    Time of Possesion: UH 20:10, OSU 39.50 – 20 minutes more.

  55. Former UH Athlete September 9, 2013 11:41 am

    Regarding Pac12 facilities… they are mostly awesome. I think Colorado has the worst football facilities in the conference as their administration doesn’t have football on their list of priorities. They are basically pocketing the Pac12 TV money. Most of the other Pac12 schools are heavily investing in their football facilities with the $20+million/year tv deal. Even Wazzu spend $60 million on stadium, practice, and weight room upgrades.

    Oregon’s facilities are absurd, and well documented. Oregon St’s are nice because they are trying to keep up with the Jones’. UW had great facilities (saw them when I last went to Seattle and my good friend was working on the training staff).

  56. Haleakala September 9, 2013 11:42 am

    FUH Athlete:

    It would be nice to be able to run on a team. It would be great to have a road win.

    The off schedule for UH and a brutal road game for Nevada should help the Rainbow Warriors when they play in two weeks.

  57. Former UH Athlete September 9, 2013 11:56 am

    54… OSU ran a ton of screen plays vs Hawaii. Hawaii for the most part defended well, but got gashed a couple times when the screen was called vs the perfect defensive play call. If I remember correctly, Gener’s pick 6 was on an attempted screen pass that was blown up with very quick pressure (and Mannion panicked).

    Storm Woods is a great player and probably the most underrated Pac12 RB. Hawaii’s run defense held up very well vs bigger, more athletic OLines. USC tried to power through Hawaii, but couldn’t get much of anything until fatigue set in and USC was able to get some garbage time yards.

    Speaking about QBs panicking under pressure, did anybody watch the USC-WSU game? Holy cow those QBs just make horrible decisions under duress. Conner Halliday just makes horrific decisions and we now have confirmation that both Wittek and Kessler really stink. USC’s only score was set up by Halliday inexplicably trying to throw with 3 USC defenders hanging on to him and fumbled the throw.

    On the bright side, I don’t see Graham making panic throws up for grabs. Actually, his ball security has been surprisingly good. With as much as he’s gotten hit, I don’t recall one single fumble. Sure, he’s made his fair share of mistakes and sometimes stares guys down, but I don’t recall him flinging the ball up for grabs under duress like a lot of other inexperienced QBs.

  58. d1shima September 9, 2013 12:41 pm

    RG III and Shanahan vs Vick and Kelly.

    Who ya got?

  59. jeezy33 September 9, 2013 12:56 pm

    57. I think Norm needs to do a better job game planning… We need more quick routes and 3 step drop throws…. I thought the play call on the Clark Evans TD was nice. Quick and easy TE screen. Can always run a fake screen one way against an aggressive D and screen to the opposite side. I know it’s hard to do much without a run game but we need a back up plan if the run can’t be established. I liked the play call to Gant on that 3rd down play but he dropped it. I think more quick and easy throws will help TG. When D starts to cheat, we can beat them deep.

    There has to be adjustments or back up plans though if original game plan is getting stopped. With our personnel, I think we need to pass to open up the run.

  60. PurpleMaple September 9, 2013 1:02 pm

    Nevada is beatable. Just stop Cody Fajardo. Of course, easier said than done, but our D is up to it. Just a matter, again, if the offense can get untracked.

  61. jeezy33 September 9, 2013 1:03 pm

    60. Yup.. Stack the box and put the heat on him… Our Dbs have shown to be good enough to cover good WRs. Nevada wont have the weapons like OSU or USC. I say 7 in the box and attack Fajardo all game. JGW can take out any TE in the conference in my eyes.

  62. RedZone September 9, 2013 1:07 pm

    Warriors need to find a way to stretch defenses horizontally. That way the holes inside will get bigger. Oregon is really good at doing this.

  63. LizKauai September 9, 2013 1:10 pm


  64. dannyp September 9, 2013 1:12 pm


    If we get hyper aggressive on Fajardo then Rolo will just use the screen game… All we have to do is kill the dive and force them into passing downs. I honestly don’t think they can score on us unless we do something stupid aka going man-free like last year. Offensively if we cant score on them we should be ashamed. Nevada’s D is terrible. If we don’t win this game I don’t know what to say.

  65. Marleysdad September 9, 2013 1:14 pm

    I wonder why everyone keeps saying our D is so good? Pretty much just the front 7, mosty the D-line. DB’s were getting beat all game. I will agree they are much better than last year. Rush D up the middle has shown to be the strength.

  66. RedZone September 9, 2013 1:15 pm

    i thought Rolo installed some R&S this year?

  67. WarriorNY September 9, 2013 1:19 pm

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  69. jeezy33 September 9, 2013 1:31 pm

    64.. Let them.. We had Gener sniff out the screen on his TD. 7 in the box doesn’t mean play wreckless. Still have assignment and can account for the RB. You can also read the blocks on screens which we did against USC too.

  70. Moocher September 9, 2013 1:38 pm

    I think come conference time the boys will be fine. i think during this bye week a lot of light bulbs will turn on.

    ben jay, better take another trip to city mill 🙂

    go bows!

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  72. Jonj September 9, 2013 1:40 pm

    Nevadas D is gonna attack and send the blitz early to try rattle TG. If we take advantage of wr screens, slants, swing passes anything quick and keep the D honest. We have a shot of opening our run game. But if we do the same run up the gut then try play action we lose!

  73. jeezy33 September 9, 2013 1:42 pm

    Can we convert Ewaliko to QB and run this high up tempo offense? Haha yes I’m dreaming but damn it doesn’t look that complex

  74. WarriorNY September 9, 2013 1:44 pm

    Haha… True… This is a crazy game so far…

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  76. OC Warrior September 9, 2013 1:59 pm

    @73 – Check out Charles Fischer’s videos, the base plays are fairly simple but you do need the right athletes to execute, especially on the O-line. They have to perform a lot of slip blocks and move downfield quickly to get the next level defenders.

  77. NotNasti September 9, 2013 2:01 pm

    Most people thought we would be in for an 0-5 start, so for us to be thinking “we should be 2-0,” and “we should beat Nevada,” is a good thing. It means the opposition isn’t/wasn’t as strong as we thought, and our team, perhaps, isn’t as bad as we thought. I would rather be 2-0, but if I had to be 0-2, I would rather be a disappointed 0-2 thinking “we should have won,” than a totally demoralized 0-2 losing by 40 points, if that makes any sense.

  78. jeezy33 September 9, 2013 2:04 pm

    76. I agree with you. But I think you can recruit good athletes who maybe aren’t as polished football players as seniors so won’t get the big time offers. Guys like St Juste, Ewaliko, and Kirkwood are more than good enough athletes in my eyes… But yeah, O line play would def need to be upgraded.

  79. OC Warrior September 9, 2013 2:05 pm

    NotNasti – I agree completely!

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  81. Jonj September 9, 2013 2:34 pm

    Not nasti I agree as well! Only thing I am concerned about is how the offense looks like it really hasn’t progressed yet from last year. But defense is a great surprise! I wish and I think Edwards wished he came back for his senior season. Might have shut out these offenses

  82. 3-Prong September 9, 2013 2:35 pm

    Wow, Eagles tempo is amazing.

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  84. NotNasti September 9, 2013 2:42 pm

    82. Jonj: actually, compared to the end of last year, the offense has regressed. But I’ll reserve judgment until Joey Iosefa & BRS get back into the game, and hopefully St. Juste gets some significant touches. How about St. Juste as a kick returner? We need to utilized the Florida Flash before he decides to transfer out. You know, kids these days.

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  86. Hank September 9, 2013 2:43 pm

    Does anyone else feel that Tuileta has a chance to be our QB next year?

  87. MattyBoy September 9, 2013 2:48 pm


    Do you think Ewaliko would be kinda small to be a D1 QB or no? You think he’d be able to pull it off?

  88. NotNasti September 9, 2013 2:49 pm

    Hank. It’s a huge jump from playing against the likes of Damien and Iolani and St. Francis to opening against UW and OSU back to back.

  89. haka September 9, 2013 2:52 pm

    Special of the week: Monk Berger!

    Hawaii freshman goalkeeper Monk Berger was honored as the Big West Conference Women’s Soccer Defensive Player of the Week today coming off shutout performances in UH wins at Oregon and Oregon State over the weekend.

  90. jeezy33 September 9, 2013 2:56 pm

    87. Yeah but I don’t think height matters that much in college. I don’t think Manziel is that big. I’m not even saying it would work but I would like a different package that involved a speed element at QB.

    I just think it’s a lot easier to prepare for a pocket passer in college such as Graham, Wittek, Mannion type guys versus Mariota, Manziel, Keith Price, Hundley (UCLA), Taylor Martinez, Taysom Hill, and so on… Hill and Martinez are very inaccurate and still give teams fits because of speed.

    I’m pretty sure Ewaliko was a top 3 fastest guy in the state up with Tabuyo. Not sure but I think he would give defenses fits in the MWC if he can be as accurate as Taylor Martinez which isn’t even saying a lot.

  91. jeezy33 September 9, 2013 2:57 pm

    As a coach, if something isn’t working, I’m going to keep going back to the drawing board to find something that puts my team in the best scenario to win…. Although if Chow didn’t let Graves get a chance last year, I have a hard time thinking he would try something different this year if the pro set doesn’t work.

  92. fshnpoi September 9, 2013 2:58 pm

    rg3 may be a little rusty..but kyle shanahan’s play calling is more like chows. httr.

  93. jm2375 September 9, 2013 3:15 pm

    Redskins offense looking like UH’s.

  94. Andrew September 9, 2013 3:21 pm

    I agree with #77 NotNasti,

    The first two games could have easily been blowouts, but Hawaii was able to keep it close and actually had there been better execution on offense, the outcomes could have been different. Of course there is no denying that the offense has many issues, but on the brightside Graham had no turnovers which I think is a big step up from last week. I really was impressed also with how they fought back to tie it at 14 on the road in a hostile environment. While everyone is entitled to their own opinion, it’s disappointing as a fan to see so many wanting to jump ship on the team and coach already. I should screen shot some of these “fire chow” comments because guarantee these same people will be the ones praising Chow of how awesome he is if they turn it around and start winning.

  95. jm2375 September 9, 2013 3:31 pm

    Way cool. Dwight Holiday named MPI boys basketball coach.

    Go Owls!

  96. Think2Much September 9, 2013 3:43 pm

    The big problem is on offense. They have to be more consistent and able to move the ball to the 20 yd line where at least they can kick field goals. Doing so, they will have had possession and give the D rest time. A stout D means more three and out for the opponents and we kick more field goals. We can win with that scenario.

  97. Dino September 9, 2013 3:45 pm

    i envision a 6 or 7 game win streak, peaking before mid season, just like we did with coach mack in 2010.

  98. Marleysdad September 9, 2013 3:48 pm

    I agree with NotNasti & Andrew. Nobody predicted we would play either team as close as we did. Now expectations suddenly change. TG made huge improvement from game 1 to 2. No turnovers are HUGE. Progress is slow right now, but I think it will come quicker as the weeks go by.

  99. Derek September 9, 2013 3:53 pm

    Don’t think a coach can make a huge difference? Just look no further than Chip Kelly. He’s running circles around Mike Shanagan’s Redskins. The offense schemes and tempo are amazing. Michael Vic is perfect for that system. Great running back in Sean McCoy and a good back up in Bryce Brown. DeSean Jackson is the home run threat. Brent Celek is solid at TE. Offense line has improved.

    Get the right coach, and you can go places? Harbaugh proved that at San Francisco. Urban Meyer proved it at Florida and Ohio St. and even at Utah and Bowling Green. Hugh Freeze at Ole Miss is a great coach that nobody is talking about. Todd Graham is solid at Arizons State. Etc. Etc. Etc. Jury is still out on Chow, but so far reviews has not been good. Our offense is pathetic. 1-11 on 3rd down conversons ain’t gonna do it. No wonder our defense get worn out. Ben Jay must do some soul searching by the end of this year. There has to be signs of significant improvement by the end of year 2.

  100. NotNasti September 9, 2013 3:59 pm

    Derek: Most people would agree with you about our anemic offense. But we don’t have Michael Vick, Colin Kaepernick, etc. And like you said, “There has to be signs of significant improvement by the END of the year.” We’re only at game #2. People are jumping ship, and the ship hasn’t even left the harbor.

  101. jeezy33 September 9, 2013 4:09 pm

    100. I think the issue isn’t so much Graham more than the scheme of our offense. I’m not jumping ship because our D looks that good but think about this… ST reported 4 dropped passes… IF we complete those 4 passes, does it really change the score points wise? I couldn’t say yes or no but I feel like it wouldn’t translated to much more scores even if we made the plays

  102. NotNasti September 9, 2013 4:12 pm

    Again, I have eyes and cannot disagree with you about the (current) ineptness of the offense. I just hold out hope for improvement. What else can I do? I don’t enjoy harboring resentment. I’m a pretty optimistic person.

  103. Marleysdad September 9, 2013 4:17 pm

    You never know what could have happened when you drop 3rd down conversions & the momentum that could have came.

  104. go UH September 9, 2013 4:25 pm

    Ron Lee 4 OC

  105. jeezy33 September 9, 2013 4:31 pm

    I have hope too… I just think there needs to be a back up plan if we can’t establish any sort of run. Not saying I have the answers but we can’t run a offense that relies on check downs and running into traffic…

  106. Independent Thinker September 9, 2013 5:20 pm

    From what I have seen thus far from chow and from rolovich – last year and this year for chow, this year for rolo – I say rolo out does, out plans, and out adjusts chow in the coming game.

    Rolo will also likely have a more successful coaching career.

    Rolo is just starting; chow is at the end of his.

    Fajardo is coming along. Our QB is not. At least not at the same level of progression or improvement as Fajardo.

    Kinda tiring and exasperating to see chow do the same thing again and again and expect a different result. Seems a reasonable person, after a shizzy first half, would be willing to try something else the next half to win. Not chow. Gonna stick with his QB, no matter what. Will feign a half hearted attempt at trying something else or someone else, but will go back to his QB at first opportunity.

    Losing? What is that? I have a point to make, says chow. Grrrrrrrr!

    At Nevada, TG starts and finishes the game. Chow has a point to make.

    Nevada 42, UH 10. UH score comes from a TD by the D and one field goal.

  107. RedZone September 9, 2013 5:27 pm

    Dave Aranda. 2 shutouts in the first 2 games.

  108. AllG September 9, 2013 5:37 pm

    108… Gonna have to agree with you… Chow just seems to run what ever he wants and doesn’t make many in game adjustments to what the other teams defense is or is not giving us

  109. go UH September 9, 2013 5:39 pm

    Nevada OC = Rolo

    UH OC = who?

  110. go UH September 9, 2013 5:42 pm

    Nevada game should be interesting…

    D is good against run.

    Will O do anything is the ?

  111. madeinhawaii September 9, 2013 5:46 pm

    go UH,

    Our D is weak against the screen pass, though. Bread and butter play for Nevada…

  112. go UH September 9, 2013 5:57 pm

    No way Nevada scores 42

    High power OSU only puts up 33

    Big difference in talent for the remaining games

    Whoever wins turnover battle, wins the game.

    UH will adjust for the screen play…

    Can Chows O do anything?

    Give it time…? well times up!!

  113. papajoe2 September 9, 2013 6:02 pm

    What ever happened to the little guy from Campbell? I believe he was injured his first 2 years. I always thought he would be a great kick/punt returner. I just can’t remember his name right now.

  114. RedZone September 9, 2013 6:02 pm

    Call da coach up next.

  115. RedZone September 9, 2013 6:02 pm


  116. RedZone September 9, 2013 6:04 pm

    Number 21.

  117. Independent thinker September 9, 2013 6:04 pm

    You mistake beaver for ducks. Osu not high powered.

  118. go UH September 9, 2013 6:05 pm

    Great site to keep tabs in one place.


  119. Bryson September 9, 2013 6:06 pm

    I think the lack of success in the running game has translated to the lack of success our passing game has had not being able to run against a D takes away the Play Action…basically forcing us to rely on only the passing game which makes it alot easier for a DC to play call against…

  120. go UH September 9, 2013 6:10 pm

    Iosefa + Lakalaka should open it uo

  121. RedZone September 9, 2013 6:17 pm

    Iosefa is the best blocker.

  122. Shoko September 9, 2013 6:34 pm

    Chow says Jordan Wynn will be the next Jon Gruden.

    Oh my!

  123. observation only September 9, 2013 6:38 pm

    can anyone please summarize what was said. just got home from work. weird, hawaii had some traffic.

  124. observation only September 9, 2013 6:46 pm

    listening. chow is a well spoken smart coach. lets not make judgement until the end of the year.

  125. RedZone September 9, 2013 6:46 pm

    He is on now.

  126. Shoko September 9, 2013 6:47 pm

    Chow reiterates that there is no QB controversy.

    “Graham is still the guy.”

  127. cocobean September 9, 2013 6:47 pm

    Derek a question for you….

    How long did those coaches stick around before they changed jobs?

  128. Shoko September 9, 2013 6:49 pm

    Much better Call the Coach show compared to last week. No longer having problems with callers getting through. So far, there’s been some good questions being asked.

  129. observation only September 9, 2013 6:50 pm

    #130- shoko,

    can you summarize some please

  130. madeinhawaii September 9, 2013 6:51 pm

    I think Coach Chow just said about the Quarterback, “You got to remember, he only has six (6) seconds to make a decision.”


  131. observation only September 9, 2013 6:54 pm

    interesting comment with the new offensive system in college and pros.

    “with a running QB , it turns into 11 on 11” not 10 on 11.

  132. go UH September 9, 2013 6:54 pm

    Coach said ( 2.6 ) seconds

  133. observation only September 9, 2013 6:55 pm

    i like chows comments

  134. madeinhawaii September 9, 2013 7:00 pm

    I better go clean my ears… LOL… no can clean the years..

  135. HiFlyer September 9, 2013 7:00 pm

    Who went to the Na Koa luncheon today?

  136. Shoko September 9, 2013 7:03 pm

    Well, Chow basically said in terms of adjustments that the schemes and packages TK wanted to run on defense was limited to the injuries before and during the game.

    Also commented on Gant’s kick return dropped ball snafu. Said that Gant knew he screwed up. Didn’t mention if there will be on changes on kick return duties.

  137. Shoko September 9, 2013 7:05 pm

    Anyway, good Call the Coach show.


  138. lava September 9, 2013 7:06 pm

    I hope Jay goes to every football game so he sees how bad Chow is.

  139. NYUHTX September 9, 2013 7:10 pm

    Hawaii has facilities. They’re just not on the UH campus.

  140. d1shima September 9, 2013 7:14 pm

    Mahalo for the CTC Show 411

  141. cocobean September 9, 2013 7:23 pm

    Chow was my last choice of the finalists for the job. Felt that last season was the most depressing since Von Appen’s last.


    I’ve come around to believe Chow was the correct choice. The more I get to know the man the more I believe he’ll succeed in bringing the program to the next level.

    He’s the tortoise in the race with the rabbit. Improvement won’t come quick enough for most but we will improve in small increments. He’s a man of charcter who has the values and work ethic of his parent’s generation(often times referred as “the greatest generation”). He’s trying to instill these values into the foundation he’s building the program on.

    He’s slowly making in roads in local/nationwide recruiting. With recruits and transfers the talent level has risen a little. The team’s overall play has improved a little from last season.

    My point is the program is heading upwards in small increments. We were at least competitive with the teams we’ve played so far. Give the man time.

    He won’t go anywhere once he succeeds.

  142. kapakahi September 9, 2013 7:31 pm

    Would like to see any occasional jail-break screens… the TD scored against BYU back in 2011.

  143. Buffoman September 9, 2013 7:32 pm

    Well stated Cocobean. Unfortunately you will never, even when success is apparent convince some who simply detest the man. Detest is a harsh word but reading their comments that is how it comes across.

  144. d1shima September 9, 2013 7:49 pm

    Well cocobean, the fly in the ointment is the HC’s age. I also appreciate the man’s ethos and character but hope that things turn around in time for it to really matter.

  145. Derek September 9, 2013 8:00 pm

    We don’t need a player like Vick or Kaepernick. I would be glad to just have a guy like Vernon Adams the QB from Eastern Washington. Maybe Aaron Zwahlen is the guy, but that’s two years away. We are talking about the present and I want to win this year. I’m not jumping ship, just frustrated as hell. Us senior citizens are like the NFL, Not For Long.

  146. Indepenent stinker September 9, 2013 8:27 pm

    “From what I have seen thus far from chow and from rolovich – last year and this year for chow, this year for rolo – I say rolo out does, out plans, and out adjusts chow in the coming game.

    Rolo will also likely have a more successful coaching career.

    Rolo is just starting; chow is at the end of his.

    Fajardo is coming along. Our QB is not. At least not at the same level of progression or improvement as Fajardo.”

    Are you “independent” enough to read Chow’s resume and make the same remarks? Much respect to both coaches, but there is no need to make an a$$ of yourself by posting that kind of satement! And you wonder why people question whether or not you are actually a UH fan. And don’t lay the same crap on us that you think your own thoughts, the fact is you make stupid remarks and expect that they show your superior thinking rather ignorance is nothing more than pure narcissism. Go stand in front of the team, their coaches and family and make those kinds of remark if you’re all that. If not chill out because you irk the crap outta real UH fans.

  147. J-FORCE September 9, 2013 8:42 pm

    Once he emerges as a potential starter, hoping coaches

    would stick with that RB for the rest of the season. I think

    it would help the o-line a lot. Go Rainbow Warriors!!

  148. cocobean September 9, 2013 9:06 pm


    What does Koresh tactics mean? In what context are you using it?

    I don’t get what you’re trying to say.

  149. jeezy33 September 9, 2013 9:42 pm

    IT is on repeat mode again

  150. kev-1 September 9, 2013 9:51 pm

    Jeezy . . . I read a few of your comments about the importance, or lack of importance, that the drops may have had on the outcome. I get where you’re coming from and I am more concerned about timing issues. But if you consider what drops (and I think there were more than 4, but didn’t actually check) do to rhythm, then I see the importance. If this offense needs anything right now it is to establish some form of rhythm. That is where the drops come in. Direct impact to game outcome, maybe not.

  151. UHFan September 9, 2013 9:54 pm

    “Instead of trying to outscheme your opponent, put your players in an environment where they can be successful because they understand exactly what they have to do.” — Chip Kelly

    Chip Kelly on the merits of keeping things simple:

  152. Konoman1 September 9, 2013 10:06 pm

    Thank you for your comments Coco Bean!!

  153. cocobean September 9, 2013 10:18 pm

    Wishful thinking….it’ll never happen but..

    With two weeks off what if Chow put in an option package run from his max protect formation. Iosefa 1st op, pitch to Dio St. Juste 2nd op, TG run 3rd op, TG pass when it’s a called play. Hey Garrett G. wasn’t fast nor was he as big as TG.

    Or…use one of JJ’s priciples – use the pass to set up the run. Can use any formation but skip the play action…just pass. Should have a split second more time to get the ball out.

    BTW. After 1000P my mind goes to pot.

  154. RedZone September 9, 2013 11:03 pm

    Iosefa is also Chow’s wildcat quarterback.

  155. Independentfocker September 10, 2013 5:30 am

    yup it repeats the same point over and over and over ….

  156. d1shima September 10, 2013 6:03 am

    Great Morning All!

    Have a great Tuesday! For the team, Have a Great Monday!


    Eedah way….Let’s Go Bows!

  157. d1shima September 10, 2013 6:04 am

    Go Get ’em, Billy Ray! 🙂

  158. 3-Prong September 10, 2013 6:13 am

    ……and Kennedy, make sure you’re 100% before you come back.

  159. d1shima September 10, 2013 6:51 am

    Happy Birthday Big Hilo Fan 2!

  160. jeezy33 September 10, 2013 7:40 am

    IT already announced he knows more than anyone so I am sticking to the topic. I just listen to you and thats all… can u repeat again? thanks

  161. Former UH Athlete September 10, 2013 7:50 am

    I have faith in Kaumeyer’s defensive play calling. Now that he has a largely healthy roster and better talent, the results have been good overall this year. The run defense has been great, and the CBs proved that they can hold their own 1on1 when asked to. UH missed Marrell Jackson last week and losing Dailey early hurt the communication on pass defense and it showed.

    I honestly think the biggest factor in this year’s defense is something that nobody has talked about… Chow’s hiring of Gary Beemer as the strength and conditioning coach has been a fantastic hire. The DLine isn’t getting pushed anymore like the last few years. Samia, Malepai, Matagiese, Woodard, and Yap all appear to be stronger. I remember Yap and Matagiese getting pushed all over the place last year.

    Also, Beemer’s impact has also been that UH hardly had any serious injuries in Spring and Fall training camps. Part of it is luck, but I think the boys are in much better shape. Many injuries occur when guys are fatigued or out of shape.

    Remember, Beau Yap, all 260lbs of him, was playing DT in the later part of last year as the injuries piled up.

  162. jeezy33 September 10, 2013 7:59 am

    179. I bring up Beemer all the time…. Much stronger team.

  163. d1shima September 10, 2013 8:01 am

    OK State paid players.

    Who knew? 🙄

  164. RedZone September 10, 2013 8:13 am

    Hostess program.

  165. NotNasti September 10, 2013 8:18 am

    Maybe Hawaii needs a “buds” and bikinis program.

  166. Former UH Athlete September 10, 2013 8:19 am

    181. The NCAA will target any program that’s not a major moneymaker for them or one that threatens the traditional powers. Anytime there’s allegations about a SEC team, somehow the school in question almost always gets off the hook, unless there’s so much evidence there’s no way to skate around it, ala Ohio St tattoo issue.

    Recently, the Cam Newton allegations at Auburn go completely unscathed. Urban Meyer’s renegade prison program at Florida goes completely untouched. The NCAA had no problems going after Boise St. for minor infractions and of course Miami, the NCAA’s most favorite target since the 1980’s Jimmy Johnson/Dennis Erickson days where they turned the NCAA football on its head with their antics and whooping the traditional powers. I think the NCAA wanted to nail Johnny football so bad, but lacked the evidence to seriously penalize him, plus Johnny’s family has the money to take them to court had they done so without proper evidence.

  167. d1shima September 10, 2013 8:22 am

    Any volunteers to monitor that program? :mrgreen:

  168. RedZone September 10, 2013 8:22 am

    The thing is former players are saying that they got paid.

  169. d1shima September 10, 2013 8:24 am

    The NCAA is letting us know it’s mad at Kentucky by taking it out on Cleveland State…

  170. d1shima September 10, 2013 8:25 am

    …and boy are they p*ssed now that the payments have stopped!

  171. NotNasti September 10, 2013 8:26 am

    Rainbowtique could sell “H” logo rolling papers and bongs. The athletes could be housed in Hale Aloha’s (S)mokihana Dormitory.

  172. Former UH Athlete September 10, 2013 8:26 am

    The hostess program happens unofficially at a lot of places. It’s usually done at house parties/frat parties, so there’s not many people with power would ever notice or care.

    Remember the movie Hoop Dreams?

    Wasn’t there a top college basketball recruit on his visit that had a welcoming banner with a bunch of sorority chicks holding it during this past year that made sportscenter?

  173. Former UH Athlete September 10, 2013 8:31 am

    190… Smokihana… classic

    Are those Hale Aloha dorms still the same? I’m just glad my dorm room was mauka facing so I didn’t have the afternoon sun roasting my room in the PM. 5th floor Ilima tower was where it’s at during 2000-1

  174. Ipu Man September 10, 2013 8:44 am

    Shakespear said Life is but a stage…and UH football is playing its part.

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