Manoa makeover

Sure, the Warriors are in a slump, and not only because of the narrow loss to San Jose State. There are questions about its pay-per-view future. So, after a nap on the armchair, here are some thoughts:

Television: The thing is, the sports channels are over-saturated with, well, sports. What the Warriors should do is explore other networks, like MTV, VH1, HBO or Discovery. Sign up with one of those networks, then open the doors, allowing the cameras to follow the players/coaches/administrators throughout the week. Then the network could have a weekly (or daily) show on the behind-the-stories. On weekends, the network could show a UH game, and if the national rights are held by someone else, then just highlights of the game. The format isn’t unique; HBO has had success with “Hard Knocks,” and MTV did well with “Two-A-Days.” Such a deal would give the Warriors national exposure, some money, boost recruiting, show UH’s diversity (Scott Harding, Alex Dunnachie, Joey Iosefa, etc.) and, let’s face it, Cayman Shutter, Billy Ray Stutzmann and Mouse Davis have reality-star names.

Publicity: It’s a crowded market, and UH doesn’t have the money to compete with the BCS schools’ publicity machines. Instead of starting campaigns in the summer, launch videos on the Web site during the offseason. That’s when people are starved for football, and even a training video would produce hits and some attention.

Clinics: The Warriors have done a great job of  bringing in coaches for peer-sharing discussions during the offseason. Why not do that during the season? Maybe the Warriors can ask former coaches to review videos of the first six games, and offer suggestions. The coaching staff certainly has enough contacts. And fresh eyes can offer a different perspective.

Pep talk: By all accounts, defensive line coach Tony Tuioti gave a rousing halftime speech. As sportscaster Robert Kekaula suggested: Why not let Tuioti make the pregame speech?

* * * * *

During today’s WAC teleconference, UH’s Greg McMackin vowed to correct the problems that have led to six blocked kicks this season, including two by San Jose State.

“We’re not going to have any more blocked PATs or field goals,” McMackin said. “We’re going to change personnel. We’re going to interlock (on protection), and do some technical things that are going to help us.”

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Quarterback Ikaika Woolsey, who is grayshirting and will join the Warriors in January:


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There’s the Hawaiian flag in the middle of the mosh pit of UH fans:



  1. haka October 17, 2011 7:01 am

    Go Warriors!

    Go Wahine!

  2. LizKauai (iPad) October 17, 2011 7:02 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

  3. chopsueyboy October 17, 2011 7:03 am

    Good Morning Tsai-kos!

  4. Wes'side Warrior October 17, 2011 7:03 am


    Go, Warriors!

    Go, Wahine!!

    Howzit, everyone!

    Is it *play nice day* already?

  5. Stephen Tsai October 17, 2011 7:04 am

    Sure, play nice.

    NMSU coach said it will allow Andrew Manley (who’s out for the year with an injury) to make the trip. He’ll serve as a student assistant, charting plays, etc.

  6. Slugger October 17, 2011 7:05 am

    Good morning, gang!

    Na Koa lunch today.


    GO WAHINE!!!

  7. LizKauai (iPad) October 17, 2011 7:07 am

    Money money money….


    I give credit to Coach Mack. He teaches the kids to respond on a deeper level.

    The bodies will follow the spirit. Getting to a unified spirit is the true victory in this ego-driven world.

    Before, during and after football.


  8. Wes'side Warrior October 17, 2011 7:09 am

    Thanks, ST!

    One thing we’re never short of is great outside thinking. Do we need to form a committee to study the feasibility of forming a committee to look at these, and the many previously submitted, great ideas?

  9. Wes'side Warrior October 17, 2011 7:10 am

    Sure, play nice.

    For some reason, that simple statement got me laughing, after all that’s been said here over the weekend.

  10. Wes'side Warrior October 17, 2011 7:11 am

    Here, here! Liz!!!

  11. Wes'side Warrior October 17, 2011 7:11 am

    Or is it “hear, hear”?

  12. jm2375 October 17, 2011 7:11 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Happy Monday!!

    Play nice today, please.


    (PS Is the Hawaii Five-0 vb episode the actual episode shown tonight on tv or will it only be shown in the SSC?)

  13. haka October 17, 2011 7:12 am

    It’s like de ja vu all over again from last year. Still lot’s of football to look forward to. It’s homecoming and I would like to see a sold out stadium on Saturday. Dreaming? Well, if the fans want the team to do well, they will support them in spirit and in the seats. That’s how you build a successful program!

    Go Warriors!

  14. tommui October 17, 2011 7:12 am


    The sun also rises …

    ST: Good ideas! How do we go about convincing the powers-that-be?

  15. jm2375 October 17, 2011 7:12 am

    Nevermind. Just checked the schedule. Scott Robbs said something on Friday that made me question it…

  16. haka October 17, 2011 7:13 am

    Go Wahine!

    Beat the Irish!

  17. A-joe October 17, 2011 7:15 am

    ST- That’s the kinda vision I’m talking about!!

    You shared this with Inouchi yet?

  18. Stephen Tsai October 17, 2011 7:15 am


    I don’t try to tell people how to think. I just try to encourage them to be civil.

    It’s OK to be angry.

    Which is why they invented the Call the Coach show.

    It’s always good to look at different options.

    Look at a map. We’re over here, and the mainland is way, way over there. UH needs a reason to have others pay attention.

  19. Stephen Tsai October 17, 2011 7:19 am

    Isn’t the Hawaii Five-0 viewing party an extension of readers’ suggestion that UH road football games should be shown at the SSC?

    A Time magazine article on Steve Jobs said his gift was in improving and advancing other companies’ ideas.

  20. uhfan09 October 17, 2011 7:24 am

    By assuring us no more block fg and pat will they go for 2pt conversions. But first just try scoring more TD’S and coach mack please make better decisions.

  21. haka October 17, 2011 7:25 am

    On playing nice….

    I hate to think what the destructive criticism and finger pointing that goes on after a loss by the fans would do if it were like that in the locker room and on the field. For many, the best way to alleviate their pain is to kick the dog. Sure, there are questions to be asked and things to be remedied, but the volatile nature of most of the fans responses I see are what brings down the program. IMO

  22. Bwhaha October 17, 2011 7:25 am

    “We’re not going to have any more blocked PATs or field goals,” McMackin said.

    Don’t make promises you can’t keep

  23. Wes'side Warrior October 17, 2011 7:26 am

    True, ST.

    Before I forget… sorry, Ronnie! Happy belated birthday! Hope you had a blast yesterday!

    Going back to your thoughts… Are we restricted to only the PR people that are allowed to talk with people like MTV, , HBO, Discovery, etc.? Perhaps someone can approach Discovery and get a grant to study the effects of so much travel on our student athletes on an annual basis, and how it affects performance, their brains, etc. I mean, I don’t think anyone travels as much as we do on an annual basis. And a show like that would enjoy aired reruns too.

  24. Wes'side Warrior October 17, 2011 7:30 am

    Of course, we’d also have to include ‘ohana and the aloha spirit as positives to help offset so much travel. Gotta take a look at physical as well as psychological angles.

  25. Stephen Tsai October 17, 2011 7:30 am

    The other thing Id like to see is that everyone involved in Gib Arnold’s contract, including the silent people of influence, get in a room, with Arnold, and just explain the issues that need to be resolved before the contract is finalized. Let’s be adults about this. If there are obstacles that need to be cleared, explain them, then work on it. Everyone is supposed to be partners in this. Don’t care for these sneaky talk-stink, back-room subplots. We’re not in middle school.

  26. Wes'side Warrior October 17, 2011 7:32 am

    Doing such a public show would even bring up the Alaska/Hawaii exemption, and the need for that BYE week, to catch up on school and healing.

  27. Da Punchbowl Kid October 17, 2011 7:33 am

    Fans here should play nice.

    Warriors should play like there’s no tomorrow! We believe in you!


  28. Stephen Tsai October 17, 2011 7:34 am


    You are correct.

    One of the stations (maybe even Oceanic?) should do a Hawaii version of a sports-science show.

    There could be shows on travel, such as the proper amount of sleep and whether it is better to stay on Hawaii time or adjust to new city’s time.

    Or the effects of altitude on an athlete and the ball.

    Or the optimum age of an administrator. Is there a creative pinnacle for a marketing director or media relations director?

  29. Da Punchbowl Kid October 17, 2011 7:35 am

    Top Thirty!


  30. Shoko October 17, 2011 7:36 am

    Aside from networks such as MTV, VH1, HBO or Discovery, how about including the travel Channel or Food Network. Tsaiko’s like to eat right? Perhaps Guy Fieri would do a tailgate challenge like he does with NFL fans.

  31. Wes'side Warrior October 17, 2011 7:36 am

    Fo, realz! Gotta take care of Coach Gib too, before he bolts.

    We are in our final WAC year. We’re heading into new territory next year. Everything needs to be finalized as soon as possible. Just throwing that out there *again*… just in case some of the negotiators didn’t know.

  32. Stephen Tsai October 17, 2011 7:37 am


    You have some great ideas.

    Most of all, UH needs to be unique.

  33. Wes'side Warrior October 17, 2011 7:38 am

    Or the optimum age of an administrator. Is there a creative pinnacle for a marketing director or media relations director?


    Aside from networks such as MTV, VH1, HBO or Discovery, how about including the travel Channel or Food Network. Tsaiko’s like to eat right?

    Double Hahahaha!!

  34. Wes'side Warrior October 17, 2011 7:42 am

    Wait, doesn’t UH have some media classes? Maybe they should be the ones to do these shows, then approach those national networks with their finished product. And apply for whatever research grants we need to get these various studies done. Push our research numbers up!!! Along with more exposure!

  35. Slugger October 17, 2011 7:43 am

    ST ~ Have Tommy Heffernan go over workouts to stay in shape. Would be cool to see what keeps the players in shape. I wouldn’t be able to emulate even 10% of what they do, but maybe the core exercises. Tsaikos could use that info. 🙂

  36. Slugger October 17, 2011 7:45 am

    Wes’side Warrior,

    You’re right. UH has a Center for Creative Media that could assist with the production. And give the students real-time experience. Helps to build their resume.

  37. Stephen Tsai October 17, 2011 7:45 am


    • For senior night, clear the way, and let each senior make a short statement. And lose the hand-shaking ceremony. New rule: senior night can’t be when somebody shakes a senior’s hand for the first time.

    • Give out the plaques at the team banquet the next night.

    • No announcers on the field. For once it would be nice to see the Warriors run onto the field without having to avoid an announcer. Golf and sumo announcers have proven you don’t need to be in the same room (venue?) to be heard.

  38. Stephen Tsai October 17, 2011 7:48 am


    UH has a lot of resources.

    It has a film school.

    A school of travel industry management (and, once again, TIM really should have its own on-campus hotel).

    Theater program.

    I think there’s a school of fashion design (which is part of the ag department).

  39. Wes'side Warrior October 17, 2011 7:49 am

    Yes, Slugger!

    Yes, ST!

    We’re moving in the right direction!!!

  40. Last Call October 17, 2011 7:52 am

    Why hasn’t Vega’s put up a line for the UH game is it because they think New Mexico State is an FCS school ?

  41. Shoko October 17, 2011 7:55 am

    I’m thinking that the spread would put the Warriors as 10-point favorites against NMSU.

  42. Stretch October 17, 2011 7:55 am

    Last Call – UH 21.5 point favorite

  43. Stretch October 17, 2011 7:56 am

  44. Kekoa October 17, 2011 8:02 am

    WW ~ Speaking of Media classes. How about a special on the life and times of our Blogmeister? C’mon Media Director, show a little respect to the man who makes your job so easy.

    For over 20 years, ST has been bringing us the inside information on the Warrior team. No other reporter or reporterette comes close to his in-depth stories. He has learned to adapt to becoming a better than average photo-journalist along the way. This has greatly enhanced the Warrior Beat, especially leading up to game day.

    Thru rain, sleet, and dark of night…well you get the idea! As Rainbow Cliff would say, “Mahalo for your greatness, ST!”

  45. CoolEthan October 17, 2011 8:03 am

    Wouldn’t a slump be considered a personal issue with consistency of not performing well? But they bounced back and beat Davis and LaTech.

    Let’s not defer issue, as pointing to a slump is not taking responsibilty.

    Still believe this is a coaching issue and lack of proper discipline.

    The fact is both of the recent losses were handed to the other team.

  46. Shoko October 17, 2011 8:03 am

    21.5 is a little high, in my opinion. But the again, the Warriors always covered the spread and then some when they play at home. This is a tough one. Might have to stay away from including this game on a parlay.

  47. CoolEthan October 17, 2011 8:03 am

    ..By allowing the other team to win.

  48. Wes'side Warrior October 17, 2011 8:04 am

    Excellent, (always overlooked) point, Kekoa!!!

  49. uhfan09 October 17, 2011 8:06 am

    21.5 point favorite? WOW did they watch the san jose state game.

  50. Stephen Tsai October 17, 2011 8:09 am


    Thanks. It was early. I was struggling for a proper noun.

    I mean, apt noun.

  51. uhfan09 October 17, 2011 8:10 am

    Is Moniz’s favorite color blue? Look, first Tulsa, now San Jose State. 4 picks each game. NUFF SAID

  52. Pomai October 17, 2011 8:10 am

    UH vs UNM

    35    –    14    Ipu Man

    38    –    14    wafan

    41    –    21    DPK

    41    –    23    longdistance808

    42    –    14    Pomai

    42    –    20    papajoe2

    49    –    06    LizKauai

    49    –    14    Tchahng

    52    –    17    krump1

    59    –    28    d1shima

  53. Stephen Tsai October 17, 2011 8:11 am

    Does the Rams’ trade for Brandon Lloyd impact Greg Salas?

  54. Stephen Tsai October 17, 2011 8:14 am

    UC Davis’ colors are blue and gold.

  55. Shoko October 17, 2011 8:15 am

    Lloyd is old news and Salas is the future.

  56. Kekoa October 17, 2011 8:16 am

    Pomai ~ Going for the gusto once again. 56 for us guys….13 for doze guys.

    Eh! Howzit DPK! I missed hearing you sing me “Happy Birthday” in your Donald Duck voice in my voice mail this year! Bummers….

  57. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 17, 2011 8:16 am

    Talk on Bobby Curran show right now about a prolific kicker from Punahou who is “said to be committing to Boise State.”

    Not sure who that is, hopefully our recruiters change his mind if indeed he is Bronco bound.

  58. CoolEthan October 17, 2011 8:16 am

    I’m in a slump with each early morning.

    Once the Java kicks, buh-bye to the slump

  59. Bleed Green and White October 17, 2011 8:22 am

    Mr. Tsai –

    Wow, wide range of points this morning, I love it.

    My two cents. In an effort to draw more fans, to rally interest locally, to make the football program relevant once again, may I suggest to school lower ticket prices.

    I mean the insertion of “premium” pricing for good seats came at a time when the economy was booming, not that it’s well, not booming anymore, the high price drives away so many fans.

    Wouldn’t it be nice again to see Aloha Stadium packed for every game? I mean 50,000 fans at an affordable price is much better than 25,000 at an astronomical price right? Plus, everybody’s a winner with a sell out, parking, food, drink etc.

    And since we’re on the subject, how dare they charge more for higher quality opponents but don’t reduce the price for, say, UC Davis for example. Or for the home team for that matter (when they’re sub-par I mean).

  60. mokumanu October 17, 2011 8:23 am

    Whatever the problems, whatever the solutions and support, you still have to win on the road. Hawaii has an advantage because it is Hawaii and curiosity is a factor for the mainland crowds (well, use to be) and the team travels so far to play. But winning on the road is the best publicity for the university and always will be. Perhaps, that alone deserves special focus in the overall scheme of football at the UH. Do well and more than Hawaii will follow, I think. Chin up, Warriors.

  61. Kekoa October 17, 2011 8:29 am

    Not sure if Officer ‘C’ is treating me as a Person of Interest, or a Prime Suspect. Nah, j/k!

    He stopped by da hale in an official capacity while investigating an incident on our street the other night. Nothing dramatic enuff to be considered of “5-0” quality.

  62. madeinhawaii October 17, 2011 8:42 am

    If we lose PPV, move the games back to 7:00 or 7:30 pm.. shoots move it to 8:00 pm. That will give everyone ample time to get to the stadium… and give our Warriors an advantage over their opponents as it will be past all of their bed times.

  63. Kevin October 17, 2011 8:44 am

    I hope they did a test run at the arena for the Five O showing tonight.

    Obviously not for the image quality, but for the audio. The PA itself is louder than before, but clarity and volume are two different things and Five-O, like all TV dramas, are driven by dialogue. Plus the audiofeed coming from KGMB will play a factor as well. Again, a live mic is different that an audiofeed that has already been mixed in post production for a TV show. The subsequent echo in a venue as large as the SSC will also have an effect if the dialogue between the characters are low in tone like two people talking one on one.

    I’m not sure how their amp or sound mixer works up there, but maybe they might want to consider taking as much bass and “mid” out of the PA system mixing board for the showing.

    Hope it works out.

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  65. eagle October 17, 2011 8:52 am

    Thanks, Pomai

    Just Rambling…

    They Showed UP LATE for Another Road Game … [UW, UNLV, SJSU…]

    …Silver Lining — many bright spots; just like UW, coulda, shoulda(?) woulda (IF had one or two ‘more’ difference makers, one more stop? one more first down? TD…) and complete the come back to win versus a decent team

    @UNLV — Never got up off the mat …

    i think they’re playing like a “young” team, inconsistent, almost ‘leaderless’ BASED on Results (esp. O & ST, 2K7 team would have stopped SJSU’s Last Drive)…

    TWO Really Bad Games in one season (what’s to be expected? one? or none ? reasonable with O Youth? Freshman on the line, newbies in many positions …

    48 hours were up yesterday…

    so i should bounced back just as All Warriors MUST Do …

    Actually, they NEED to bounce back In the Game and Sustain …

    OR BETTER, As a Good Team would do…

    Get Up Early and Stay Up (displayed some of this at LA Tech)…

    @ Home, Harder to Tell all these things, ‘cos emotion and the home advantages mask all that …

    UH 48 NMSU 17

  66. uhfan09 October 17, 2011 8:53 am

    look on the road games 0-3 when chun went but 1-0 without him just a thought to consider

  67. uhfan09 October 17, 2011 8:55 am

    I beleive UC davis may have blue but was mostly gold and white when they played them

  68. Hank October 17, 2011 8:56 am

    #53…ST, i believe they play different positions…Salas was given a shot yesterday at playing the slot for Amendola (last years starter who is out for the year) and made the most of it…he could’ve had a td too if Bradford saw him.

  69. Pride. October 17, 2011 8:58 am


    October 17th, 2011 at 8:16 am

    Talk on Bobby Curran show right now about a prolific kicker from Punahou who is “said to be committing to Boise State.”

    Not sure who that is, hopefully our recruiters change his mind if indeed he is Bronco bound.

    Kid is awesome. I saw him kick a kickoff from his own forty, that hit the filed goal cross bar and bounce over the top. It was incredible.

    I’m sure that he will get offers from bigger BCS schools.

  70. haka October 17, 2011 9:01 am

    #63 Kevin

    Yup, also, the commercials will be loud if they don’t make the on the fly adjustment.

  71. madeinhawaii October 17, 2011 9:15 am


    October 17th, 2011 at 7:43 am

    ST ~ Have Tommy Heffernan go over workouts to stay in shape. Would be cool to see what keeps the players in shape. I wouldn’t be able to emulate even 10% of what they do, but maybe the core exercises. Tsaikos could use that info.

    We probably all got the 8 hours of sleep a night part down pat … and the drink plenty of liquids to stay hydratred (not saying what kind) … eat lots of protein…

    Das not good enough? Sheesh!

  72. Buffoman October 17, 2011 9:15 am


    “Awesome”, “Punahou”

    Most likely no considering UH. Sorry, but that is usually the case.

  73. jm2375 October 17, 2011 9:21 am

    How about shows profiling the KRS’s (fka KLS, HPER) faculty research? People like Coop DeRenne & Jan Prins. That whole department seems to be doing research on topics that us weekend warriors would like to know (exercise science, injury prevention, sports science)

  74. jm2375 October 17, 2011 9:25 am

    Hmmm, BSU and kickers – one mistake and they might run him out of town… 😈

  75. Stretch October 17, 2011 9:25 am

    Talking about more exposure for UH, I’ve heard that more UH basketball games will be shown on regional sports stations on the west coast. I think an announcement will come out soon.

  76. mctruck October 17, 2011 9:43 am

    Maybe Oprah network would like to telecast the Warrior games seeing how they scrapping for more content!???

  77. haka October 17, 2011 9:46 am

    Kanoa Leahey, David Hallums and Tony Sellitto will be the broadcast crew for University of Hawaii men’s basketball on Oceanic Time Warner’s OC Sports, according to an announcement today.

    Leahey’s father, Jim, will team with Lori Santi on Rainbow Wahine games.

  78. haka October 17, 2011 9:47 am

    Howard Dashefsky will anchor pre-game, halftime and post-game segments for men’s and women’s games and will be joined by Artie Wilson for men’s basketball. Wilson, who played for UH from 1971-”73, will also do some color commentary.

  79. Kevin October 17, 2011 10:01 am


    October 17th, 2011 at 9:25 am

    Talking about more exposure for UH, I’ve heard that more UH basketball games will be shown on regional sports stations on the west coast. I think an announcement will come out soon.


    Also same is heard/expected for another sport as well.

  80. Kevin October 17, 2011 10:04 am


    October 17th, 2011 at 9:01 am

    #63 Kevin

    Yup, also, the commercials will be loud if they don’t make the on the fly adjustment.


    Last I heard, there is supposed to be some kind of adjustment to that. It’s very annoying, but can’t blame advertisers for goin that distance to get their point across.

  81. Stretch October 17, 2011 10:04 am

    Kevin – correct, but I couldn’t remember all the details so didn’t want to put wrong info.

  82. Kevin October 17, 2011 10:04 am

    Speaking of announcements…

    Kind of waiting for an official release with regards to this year’s Circle of Honor inductees.


  83. Kevin October 17, 2011 10:05 am


    Yeah, it wasn’t exactly concrete details, but the name of one of those channels out there was mentioned and I was kind of surprised, but pleased at the same time.

  84. Kevin October 17, 2011 10:07 am

    Circle of Honor should be announced in a few days I think.

  85. madeinhawaii October 17, 2011 10:17 am


    Didn’t get a chance to thank you for your response two days ago. I finally found it and got around to reading it.


       In what sense is/are UH’s academics lacking?

       Can you provide some examples/insight? Thanks


    UH does have good Academics and does a decent amount of research, which brings in good faculty and all of those research grants bring money into the state. All very positive things. I am *not* criticizing UH’s academics…I am criticizing the *direction* of UH’s Upper Campus priorities.

    Boise State is adding PhD programs, building new buildings for Academics, upgrading their faculty, and maintaining all of their Academic facilities. Their direction is clearly upwards and they are continually bringing in more money to upgrade their Academic side.

    UH is cutting budgets, cutting classes so students cannot take classes they need to graduate on time, doing a horrible job of maintaining Academic facilities (dorms not taken care of, roofs leaking, labs not maintained), and have the students worried about the huge tuition increase that is coming. The message to the faculty and students are that budget cuts will reduce what they currently have for Academics, tuition increases will squeeze the students and drive some away, and the Academic facilities weren’t maintained well before the budget cuts so I hate to see how well things are maintained in the future.

    I have heard some pretty depressing things from UH faculty. Lots of people see what is happening with Hawaii’s budget situation and see the pain the budget cuts and tuition increases will cause. Does that indicate a positive direction?

  86. jm2375 October 17, 2011 10:33 am

    Garret/mih – #85 – as a case in point, in a matter close to my heart – it’s been over 5 years since the Elementary School building on the UHS campus was destroyed by fire. To date, I have not heard of any plans to replace the building. There are now 4 “portables” in it’s place…

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  88. Kevin October 17, 2011 10:45 am

    The rennovations to Johnson Hall and another student housing structure must be from funds allocated prior to some recent cuts as well as the funds feeding the project currently at campus center which will essentially provide a new large addition to the current building.

    Not sure when the two housing/dorms will be finished, but the new Campus Center should be up and functional in the fall of 2012.

    Campus Center looks like a mess right now with all the blocked off areas and construction equipment.

  89. tommui October 17, 2011 11:22 am


    UH 35


  90. Old School Dave October 17, 2011 11:29 am

    Friend of mine took his family to visit Seattle. His kids (elementary to middle school) were very impressed with the UW campus. Beautiful summer day with the fountain shooting water in the air with Mount Rannier in the background. There was an event going on outside the HUB (student union bldg) for “future Huskies”. One of the event people told my friend’s daughters to get in line for free cake and ice cream. That was a few years ago, and now my friend’s kids want to go to UW.

    When my friend and his kids take walks to the UH Manoa campus, the youngest one always ask him, “why is the UH fountain always broken?”

  91. Vision October 17, 2011 11:30 am

    I am unhappy from the conditions that lower my life.

  92. WarriorNY October 17, 2011 11:38 am




    I like the think outside the box ideas. Would having a TV show similar to Hard Knocks violate any NCAA rules?

  93. AlaWai October 17, 2011 11:42 am


    Warriors 50 – Aggies – Zero.


  94. Kevin October 17, 2011 11:56 am

    Where the hell is the fountain???

  95. Kevin October 17, 2011 12:00 pm

    You know what also sticks out in my memory when I was about 9 or 10 years old?

    Asking my dad: “Why does everyone (here) hate UH?”

    Impressions last a long time with me.

  96. MP October 17, 2011 12:05 pm


    UH 31 – NMSU 28

    GO WARRIORS!!!!!

  97. kev-1 October 17, 2011 12:07 pm

    ST . . . regarding Lloyd affecting Salas playing time

    let’s hope not. I think Salas did enough yesterday agains the defending champs to at least give him more consistent time. One never knows though.

  98. Old School Dave October 17, 2011 12:33 pm

    Re #94 – Kevin: The fountain is in front of the Student Services Building at Varney Circle. It’s working in this photo.

  99. Old School Dave October 17, 2011 12:39 pm

    On the other hand, UH is making an effort to improve things at Manoa with the new Campus Center addition, new dorm (Frear Hall), and renovations of Johnson Hall. On the Big Island, they have a new Student Life Center and are building a new bookstore.

  100. PolyMom October 17, 2011 12:41 pm

    @Steven Tsai. Great points about the film school. They must also have the IT school on campus. Put the two forces together to create INTERNSHIP programs. That is what one of my kids did one summer. Work with the film school kids, then they created websites, and other content for PR. And by INTERNSHIP they got paid nothing. Kids here on the mainland are happy to just have it on their resume. Helps to find work in the hard times we are in.

    Excellent point!!! Use students and work together like here on the mainland.

  101. Old School Dave October 17, 2011 12:42 pm

    Make that they’re building a new student center at UH Hilo. The new bookstore is already pau.

  102. madeinhawaii October 17, 2011 12:49 pm

    If Govt wanted to create jobs, they should improve the public/state/charter school facilities. That would put a lot of people to work.. and improved facilities might just help improve the mindset of our public school students, as well.

    Insofar as getting students involved and working together.. good luck getting that through the unions. Free labor when there are unemployed union workers? HAH…

  103. PolyMom October 17, 2011 12:55 pm

    Regarding the reality show idea of following the Coaches, Players. My husband explored that years ago. The show runners could only find one network that was interested in doing that…one of the ESPN brands. But they wanted to pay so little for the show, there was no money for anyone. Reality television can work for you or against you. The network decides which way to take it. Not the Producer. Thus, it could be a bad thing if they only want edited material and content that makes folks look stupid.

    But you would think some kids in the film school…could get permission to shoot film and start with a YouTube channel. There is POWER on YouTube. Just got back from a weekend conference all about YouTube, Twitter and Facebook. Incredible marketing tools.

  104. ai-eee-soos October 17, 2011 1:34 pm

    link to Ferd’s column, posted this morning.

  105. ai-eee-soos October 17, 2011 1:35 pm

    a comment posted on Ferd’s column:

    ” … a great defensive coach is not necessarily a good head coach and a good head coach is not necessarily a good special teams coach. … “

  106. haka October 17, 2011 1:54 pm

    kinda like…

    “…a great blogger is not necessarily a good poster and a good columnist is not necessarily a good writer…”


  107. Sats October 17, 2011 1:57 pm

    I know no one wants to re-visit the game (I certainly don’t), but I was talking to my coworker last night and he said something that made me question why he was working in the food service industry and not coaching football IMO.

    UH 27 SJSU 20 after the Joey Iosefa TD run. With one blocked kick already why not go for the 2 point conversion. If UH converts its a 2 possesion lead. If UH fails its still a 7 point lead. And with the momentum clearly with UH at this point in the game why not? Especially after the UW game and one kick blocked already that night.

    On another note, in the replay of the SJSU player returning it to the house it appeared that Shane Austin was looking for a holding penalty instead of running down the player and throwing his *ss to the turf.

    Maybe our games are just not meant to be shown to a national audience and are only meant for the people of Hawaii to enjoy.

  108. A-House October 17, 2011 2:04 pm


    while I agree with you, that would be “thinking outside the box” – to inventive – to bold.

    ya gotta remember the “stay in the same mold” mentality.

  109. shorebreak October 17, 2011 2:28 pm

    To be world class we need world class industries in the islands. Tourism was good till the mid nineties.

    What will be engine that drives the economy? Government service does not generate revenue

    U.H. Pearl Harbor, they are money spenders. What else is there in the islands?

    There is a lot small/niche industries that have a lot of potential especially here on the Big Island

    but it will all take a lot of work

    There is nothing like Nike,Oregon; Microsoft,Washington, to input into the athletic program.

    What can we export to generate billions in revenue?

    When we find that new thing ;things will pick up

    We need a product that caters to personal consumption; the researchers we have need to focus

    beyond Ipods and Facebook. Look for something more real.

  110. wait a minute October 17, 2011 2:28 pm

    That argument is flawed, because at that point no kicks had been blocked

  111. Stretch October 17, 2011 2:37 pm

    Sats – I heard a caller this morning say the same thing. That was the first blocked kick of the game.

    The extra point “supposed” to be an automatic. If they converted, it would have been an 8 point lead and SJSU would have to score a TD and 2 point conversion.

  112. Sats October 17, 2011 2:40 pm

    wait a minute

    Yes, you are correct. Omit the part of having one blocked already to unflaw the thought. BUT keep in mind that every XP/FG attempt is an adventure with our team and with what happened at UW I still think that the possibility to push it to a 2 possession game instead of a 1 score is a justifiable reason.

    I am not a football coach and neither is my coworker. Just found is thinking interesting

  113. Stretch October 17, 2011 2:44 pm

    Kenton Chun already kicked 3 extra points, why would you think they would block the 4th?

  114. Buffoman October 17, 2011 2:51 pm


    Because it looked like they were getting closer and closer to actually blocking one? In the other games that’s what it looked like to a blocked kick. Practice made perfect for them (all of them who successfully blocked us) when it counted.

  115. bigislandkurt October 17, 2011 2:55 pm

    Old school Dave….that is not a new student center at UH-Hilo….it’s a student services building. This is where offices like admissions, advising, financial aid, and counseling will be in. A virtual one-stop-shop for student services.

    A student center, which typically serves as the “quad” or hub/gathering place for students is still called the campus center. The most recent addition to this campus center is the new bookstore scheduled to open by next school year.

    The next big construction project will be the behemoth Hawaiian Language college building….and then soon after, the college of Pharmacy — which will be equally huge.


  116. Ralph October 17, 2011 3:00 pm

    Winning and on a roll, Na Wahine soccer is in first place with a 3-1-1 WAC record and Utah State trailing by a half a game at 3-1. UH final two games are on the road, Las Cruces and Ruston, before commencing WAC tournament play.

    Fresno will host the WAC first round, semis and finals. Fresno is in 4th place at 2-1 with 4 games remaining.

  117. Sats October 17, 2011 3:03 pm


    I don’t think my friend meant that he knew the 4th XP attempt would be blocked, nobody could’ve known that, I think he was just referring to our kicking game this season which has been very shaky and inconsistent. But, I think your missing the key point which was the chance to make it a 2 possession game instead of 1.

    Yes, if they made the XP SJSU would have to score a TD and convert a 2 point conversion in order to tie. However if UH made the 2 point converstion SJSU would have to score a TD and than get the ball again and score again to win.

    But like A-House said “that would be “thinking outside the box” – to inventive – to bold.

    ya gotta remember the “stay in the same mold” mentality.”

    Which I agree with, go big or go home is not always the luxury a head coach can have and our team went with the conventional wisdom of going for something “automatic” and making it difficult/but still possible to tie the game. Where the possibility of putting it almost out of reach was there.

  118. Ralph October 17, 2011 3:06 pm

    Utah State has matches with Idaho, San Jose and Fresno State, while FSU will finish the season with La Tech, NMST, Nevada and Utah State.

  119. Buffoman October 17, 2011 3:12 pm


    Chee, now that you put it that way, you’re right we should have given stronger consideration for going for 2. Nice thinking outside the box, given all of the circumstances. Maybe that one just escaped the coaches at the moment.

  120. Warrior Expat October 17, 2011 3:13 pm

    That loss hurt a lot. I was frankly expecting far better after the great showing against LA Tech.

    I am not advocating that Coach McMackin or anyone on his staff lose their job. I think the jury is still out on the McMackin era. But it does disturb me that, on this board and on others, you will often find that anyone who does call for a staff change is criticized for being an alarmist or a “fair weather fan.”

    These type of discussions are healthy and fair. Especially after debacles like UNLV and SJSU. It is one thing for the team to have an off game. But the inconsistency that has been shown this season, as well as what seems to be a downward trend on special teams, suggest failures of a more systematic nature. Those type of problems begin and end with the coaches.

    My best wishes to the team and to the coaches for a successful remainder of the season.

  121. Old School Dave October 17, 2011 3:16 pm

    #115- BIK: Thanks for the clarification regarding the new construction at UH-Hilo. I’ve always liked that campus – easily accessible. I have a friend who teaches at nearby Hawaii CC and often will take the kids to the new pool at UH-Hilo.

    I wonder if someday, UH-Hilo could start-up a football program, say Div-III or NAIA?

  122. Shoko October 17, 2011 3:28 pm

    Has there been any NFL team that didn’t score a firstdown in the first half?

  123. Shoko October 17, 2011 3:30 pm

    Nevermind, Jets finally got their first down. But, they only accrued 34 yards offensively. Yet they’re in the lead.

  124. cocobean October 17, 2011 3:36 pm

    Sats, going for two makes sense only after the fact. If you and your friend go back to when UH was lining up for the PAT. Did the thought of going for two cross your minds then?

    To come out after you know the outcome is slightly disingenuos. Don’t forget that there’s also a possiblity of a pick 2 when going for two. If something like that happened, Mack would have been fired before he stepped off the plane here.

  125. Hawaiianbod October 17, 2011 3:38 pm

    ST – your J-E-T-S is finally clicking on O.

  126. anklebiters October 17, 2011 3:39 pm


    UH – 31

    NMSU – 33

  127. Old School Dave October 17, 2011 3:42 pm

    Still get chance, but:

    Idaho – ?? Because it’s on the road at Moscow.

    Nevada – Always tough at home in Reno.

    Utah State – elusive freshman QB, talented RBs, team ready for a breakout game.

    Fresno – Always lots of speed and talent.

    Tulane – ?? Don’t know much about them. Heard that their HC is on the hotseat. Lot of speedy skilled players from that part of the country.

    BYU – If UH beats the Cougars, then it’ll make up for a lot of has been a disappointing season.

    I hope the players read and listen to a lot of the criticism and get angry and turn things around. An 8-5 season looks good at this point in the season.

  128. LizKauai October 17, 2011 3:49 pm

    Love the idea of interactive, inter-disciplinary, hands-on-realtime production work by UH students FOR UH Programs.

    Cool Beans.


  129. LizKauai October 17, 2011 3:50 pm

    Angry? How about FOCUSED.

  130. Buffoman October 17, 2011 3:50 pm

    If they had given thought for going after 2 as opposed to one, given the arguements. As a coach, my thinking would have been we have 7, let’s preserve that (and not think of “what if it was “8”). This is a risk decision but the rewards would be worth the risk, yet we need to protect the 7. That being said, if they ran Iosefa and he came up short, we still had 7, because preserving that was most important.

    The other team still would have to score and then it would have been their decision to either tie the game with a kick or try to win it outright going for 2.

    It would have been safe, with a risk/reward factor factored in.

    But then again, I am not a coach and just a speculative fellow.

  131. Sats October 17, 2011 4:21 pm


    October 17th, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    Sats, going for two makes sense only after the fact. If you and your friend go back to when UH was lining up for the PAT. Did the thought of going for two cross your minds then?

    To come out after you know the outcome is slightly disingenuos. Don’t forget that there’s also a possiblity of a pick 2 when going for two. If something like that happened, Mack would have been fired before he stepped off the plane here.


    First off, I had to look up what disingenuos meant.

    Second, if you go back and read my posts I am in no way trying to be “Not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.” (from Google definition) I was simply stating something that I found interesting while talking about the game 2 days after it happened.

    No, the thought of 2 didnt cross my mind, not even 2 days after did it. And yes there is that risk, but there was also a risk of a blocked PAT returned for 2 (UW).

  132. jm2375 October 17, 2011 4:52 pm

    The Dolphins are pathetic…

  133. wafan October 17, 2011 4:59 pm





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  135. slenzi October 17, 2011 5:02 pm

    Thanks everyone for standing up an voicing your support for the team, over and above all your grief and misgivings. That’s what real fans do . . . grieve . . which includes anger and rant before settling down. Now we can move on and let the Warriors know how much we are behind them. Coaches too.

  136. slenzi October 17, 2011 5:12 pm

    Funny that I’m now living here in SEC-land Florida and the SEC fans are quick to crucify, quick to question play calling, coaching, clock management, etc, and say pretty nasty stuff on sports talk radio. Don’t ever let UH sink to that level of fan-dom. You can be passionate an positive too. The fans down here try to justify every nasty, low, unnecessary word with “Well you know we’re just passionate about our sports down here.” Hawaii fan and proud of it. My kid go to FSU next year and they are ready to lynch the coach after less than half the season as coach and following a legend, Bobby Bowden. Will be interesting to see how the fans turn on Nick Saban or Les Miles when one of them loses this year.

  137. papajoe2 October 17, 2011 5:13 pm

    Did the Dolphins ever throw to Devon Bess? jmxxxx, yes they look pathetic.

  138. jm2375 October 17, 2011 5:18 pm

    ppj2 – #137 – he’s apparently been covered well by da guy from BSU. He’s had 2 catches w/ 1 fumble late in the game. He’s also had a couple of short punt returns. I keep questioning the play calling. Is Sparano on the hot seat?

  139. jm2375 October 17, 2011 5:19 pm

    Congrats to ST’s J-E-T-S, but the Dolphins are awful.

  140. A-joe October 17, 2011 5:20 pm

    109: Excellent points to ponder.

    We actually do have a great revenue generator: The University of Hawai’i system. They just refuse to be it.

    MRC Greenwood has bold and innovative ideas to take Hawai’i to a higher level. Two obstacles stand in her way:

    -Not enough key supporters to see her vision through

    -Too much old boys and girls network that refuse to change.

    Two things that holds Hawaii back from being sustainable innovators in the tech industry:

    -Isolation from world markets

    -Better surrounding manufacturing support.

    You mentioned about specialty niche markets. That’s a good area to look into. Hawaii’s location allows it to be the only place in the United States to efficiently produce specialty agricultural crops: Coffee, Vanilla and Cacao. The US imports these 100%. They can be grown in Hawai’i.

    If we were to convert all of the former sugar lands on the Big Island to these three products alone, we’d barely meet 2% of world market demands.

    The question now becomes, do we have the work force (manual labor) to pull off such a feat? It’s not sexy techie desk work. But, there’s billions to be made.

    We currently grow 80% of all corn seeds grown in the midwest. Perhaps more markets are available out there to explore.

    We should be world leaders in ocean and atmospheric sciences.

    We have the potential to innovate great things here. Someone just needs to see it and seize it!

  141. Hawaiianbod October 17, 2011 6:28 pm

    jm# – it appears that Miami is trying to get into the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.

  142. A-House October 17, 2011 6:29 pm

    On a 2-point conversion, most will conclude it be a run or pass.

    What about a QB option – run it in for 2 by the QB or lateral ball to RB. Stack 3 receivers on one side and a lone receiver near the tackle to simulate a TE. Coach can then call a play to the “weak side” based on D tendencies – just be sure to put in a speedy RB or WR.

    When UH played Florida, Tebow did a “jump pass” for a TD from the 2-yard line. Useful in a PAT situation?

    So many options, but——————–that would be too innovative – too bold – don’t want to disturb the status quo.

    A 3-star General once questioned me about the 9 rules of war and its many applications – I said, “Sir, if I win the battle for you by breaking all the 9 rules with minimum casualties and loss of materiel would you be disappointed?” He was pissed!

  143. A-House October 17, 2011 6:37 pm


    In today’s electronic world, how “isolated” would Hawaii be in reference to the mainland or Europe or the Far East? Would the top 3-5 tech corporations be willing to make Hawaii their corporate HQ? Why not Honolulu instead of Boise, Idaho? Cause too many greedy hands who want to control all the action.

    I am not a “techie” and have much problems working my computer at work – seems I always end up with the equipment problems.

  144. Hawaiianbod October 17, 2011 6:46 pm


  145. 808bowler October 17, 2011 6:47 pm

    Don’t think the trade for lloyd will impact salas. He is a outside receiver and they been using gregg in the slot. Also they released sims-walker.

  146. rainbowfan October 17, 2011 6:48 pm

    New Mexico State is supposed to have a good defensive backfield per an interview on the Curran show this morning. Their defense Giving up 27.8 points per game compared to Hawaii’s 27.5 .

    Hawaii is scoring at 35.5 points per game vs. New Mexico State at 26.5.

  147. Image Makeover and Celebrity Makeover October 17, 2011 6:54 pm

    It’s a crowded market, and UH doesn’t have the money to compete with the BCS schools’ publicity machines. Instead of starting campaigns in the summer, launch videos on the Web site during the offseason. That’s when people are starved for football, and even a training video would produce hits and some attention.

  148. el burro sabio October 17, 2011 6:56 pm

    Mr. A-House,

    Don’t make a square peg fit into a round hole.

    Mo used to play soccer, hence the pooch punt. Iosefa used to play QB in HS, explaining the pass to Pollard against UC-Davis. Know the skill set of your players and design plays from that, not the other way around.

  149. papajoe2 October 17, 2011 7:03 pm

    # 142, A-House predictably is the downfall of many teams.

  150. polywarrior4life October 17, 2011 7:50 pm

    Love the idea.

    Correct them mistakes and let’s get busy by preparing for NM.


    Warriors 72 Hobo Lobbos 0

  151. Shoko October 17, 2011 8:03 pm

    NMSU is ranked 43rd in pass defense giving up 206 yards/game, so they do have a decent secondary. However, they are ranked 92nd in rush defense giving up 185 yards/game. Perhaps the Warriors need to concentrate on the run game. Perhaps, the Pistol offense (Kiko) and see whether its effective.

  152. al October 17, 2011 8:34 pm

    final sjsu game note…those of you who attended or had keen ears, heard the conch shell blaring for the warriors. that conch shell sat right next to me. i told him he needed to come home and attend a game.

    bruddah hal was a truck load of fun and laughter.

    mahalo for the good time.

  153. al October 17, 2011 8:36 pm

    if it ain’t broke

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    if it is broike

    then fix it.

    its broke.

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  155. LizKauai (macbook) October 17, 2011 8:45 pm

    So blahblahblah…

    Who’s coming to HOMECOMING?

    Where is the T-Gate?

    Time to finally sit in my seat for the first time.

    Mahalo Ke Akua for finally pushing the last glass sliver out of my foot so I can finally put my tennies on again and make that long climb into the yellow section!

    Life is good.

    Gonna see the Wahine play on Friday and Sunday…

    Gonna see the Warriors play on Saturday!


  156. LizKauai (macbook) October 17, 2011 8:46 pm

    Time for 5-0!

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  161. Las Vegas October 17, 2011 9:24 pm

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  162. Slugger October 17, 2011 9:25 pm

    Nice to have a picture of Ikaika Woolsey. E komo mai!

    Sorry, Kinda Shy, I had to leave to finish watching Hawaii 5-0 at home. The acoustics in the upper section was not as clear. It was better below the concourse.

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  163. A-joe October 17, 2011 9:46 pm

    143: A-House

    The top 5 tech companies would not move to Hawaii because:

    -We’re isolated

    -We don’t have adequate business infrastructure

    -no favorable business laws

    -no peers for them to network with

    -no readily available capital.

    Many tech companies that have started up in Hawaii eventually outgrow the island confines and move closer to either one of three things:




    Both Boise and Utah offer favorable tax incentives for businesses than Hawaii. Being closer to markets than we are also helps.

    There are flat out economics we just can’t compete with globally. But, rather than worry about the battles we can’t win, we should look to our strengths and dominate the markets we can.

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