Looking ahead, looking back

Looking ahead: 

• Not exactly sure of the name, which is why  UH’s football clinic for male fans is a one-of-a-kind event. Can you imagine any other school taking fans, step by step, through the process of going through a game plan? And using lectures, “playbooks,” and on-field Q&A sessions with coaches and and players? All of this nine days before the season opener? The clinic starts at 7 p.m. Tuesday, with registration at 6 p.m. at the UH athletic complex. Fee is $20, but it includes refreshments and the playbook. For information, call 956-6508.

• On Wednesday, it’s the female fans’ turn with the third Heather McMackin football clinic for women. This version will have the same outline as the first two — presentation, Q&A with coaches and players, on-field demonstration — but will include different topics from the first two years. Clinic is at 7 p.m., registration at 6 p.m. 

• Many were disappointed the Warriors did not “scrimmage” during the recently completed training camp. Sure, I suppose, a sneak preview would be fun for the fans (and critics). But the point of training camp was to prepare for the season — and to limit injuries. The Warriors did go “live” on in drills involving the secondary, where most of the open-field tackling takes place, and on placekicking. The performance in the first three games — USC at home; Army and Colorado on the road — will determine whether this was the correct strategy. At least, unlike the previous two camps, there were no season-ending injuries (Rocky Savaiigaea, Blaze Soares in 2008; Brashton Satele in 2009). 

• With tomorrow’s first day of the fall semester, the roster expands. Welcome back Mike Maracle, Cory Daniel, Mike Maracle, Kahai Choy? Leroy Lutu, who watched yesterday’s practice, said he joins tomorrow. 

• UH, we’re told, continues to do “due diligence” as it explores options in the wake of the announced departures by Fresno State and Nevada. Polls have been taken, calls have been placed, and future calls and meetings have been arranged. But no action will be taken, we’re told, until BYU decides whether, 1) it will go through with a plan to go independent in football and join the WAC in other sports; 2) go independent in football but remain in the Mountain West in other sports; 3) do nothing at all. It should be interesting to see if Louisiana Tech opts to make a move, too. LaTech probably would love to join C-USA, as much as Koakane would love to be Budweiser’s official taster. But, nope, no invitation yet. LaTech certainly would not want to go to the Southland, although, hey, at least that’s an option. 

Looking back:

• Judging by training camp, this class of newcomers might be the best since 2005. Cornerback John Hardy-Tuliau, who also is excellent on special teams, is going to be a star. Cornerback Dee Maggitt and safety Bubba Poueu-Luna will be contributors for a long time. Line coach Gordy Shaw is raving about the five freshman linemen — center Kody Afusia, guards David Lefotu and Frank Loyd Jr, and tackles Jordan Loeffler and Sean Shigematsu. Siaki Cravens might be the next Featiagogo Fonoti. Linebackers T.J. Taimatuia and Dustin Elisara were playing well before suffering nagging injuries. Add in kicker Tyler Haddon and wideout Darius Bright, who enrolled in January. The bonuses ere the freebies — safety Darryl McBride, running back Sterling Jackson and defensive end Kamalu Umu, who transferred from Charleston Southern. Well, Umu, who earned a scholarship three days ago, now is on the books. Too bad one of the top newcomers in spring practice — defensive lineman Josh Manupuna — is no longer on the team.


  1. papajoe2 August 22, 2010 8:50 am


  2. papajoe2 August 22, 2010 8:51 am

    Garret or anyone else, What is the power rating of Utah State?

  3. chawan_cut August 22, 2010 8:51 am


  4. Last Call August 22, 2010 8:53 am

    UH continues with “due diligence” as it explores options .

    UH will study the studies this week.

  5. Stephen Tsai August 22, 2010 8:58 am

    I think UH has to be cautious on this one.

    For instance, if it announces today: Hey, guys we’re going independent in football and joining the Big West in other sports.

    Then, I can see other schools going: UH is out, let’s all (re)join the WAC.

    The best rule is: Only leave when you have somewhere better to go.

  6. PONO August 22, 2010 9:01 am

    What happened to Manupuna?

  7. Slugger August 22, 2010 9:03 am

    ST ~

    Practice at 7 am tomorrow?

  8. papajoe2 August 22, 2010 9:03 am

    St, I agree with your “only leave when you have somewhere to go.” Especially with us being Hawaii. Secrecy is a must!!

  9. jm2375 August 22, 2010 9:03 am

    Good morning Tsai-kos!

    Top 10!


  10. Stephen Tsai August 22, 2010 9:04 am

    If I’m UH, it’s time to good cop/bad cop things.

    Somebody has to schmooze MWC commissioner Craig Thompson while somebody has to give the best-friend appearance to WAC commissioner Karl Benson.

    It’s all about role-casting. I originally thought Manoa chancellor Virginia Hinshaw should schmooze Thompson. But then I realized that as essentially one of the board members of the WAC, she faces those fiduciary-blah-blah duties that probably would restrict her from seeking another conference. So maybe Donovan talks to Thompson, while Hinshaw works with Benson?

    That’s how business works. Unless folks really believe that Fresno and Nevada accepted offers one hour after they were made without any previous discussions.

  11. Stephen Tsai August 22, 2010 9:08 am


    Not exactly sure, but signs point to not having enough transferrable credits.

    That almost happened with Umu, who took 18 credits during the summer.

    First, the darn clock keeps ticking. Second, not all credits transfer, especially when most of us don’t really know what we want to be when we’re college freshmen. And, third, when you’re a walk-on, it’s not easy to have a full-time school schedule while trying to make ends meet.

  12. Da Punchbowl Kid August 22, 2010 9:09 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂

  13. d1島 August 22, 2010 9:12 am

    Hmmmm….well, I did mention that I’m off on Tuesday.

  14. Da Punchbowl Kid August 22, 2010 9:13 am

    Morning Dean Tsai-

    Any reaction from the players regarding all of this last week’s developments?

  15. ai-eee-soos August 22, 2010 9:13 am

    Yes, the frosh O-lineman look promising; future looks bright.

  16. madeinhawaii August 22, 2010 9:18 am


  17. BleedGreen808 August 22, 2010 9:21 am

    Good morning Hawaii!

    Hope all is well!

    I miss the advertiser’s weekly show and interviews. Any chance bringing that back?

    Not at home to watch practice, so got to rely on reports and chawan_cut for info. By the way, thanks for the reports. Try to sneak a peak once in a while and see what is going on with the team.

    Too bad about Fresno and Nevada. Good luck to them. Have more respect for Utah St. for declining the offer and being firm with conference agreement.

    Anyhow, talk to you laters.

  18. CoolEthan August 22, 2010 9:24 am

    How did Kamala Uma intially end up at Charleston Southern? and his thoughts on the school and program while attending. Would be an interesting story.

    Thestring of academies along the North and South Carolina venue are top rate schools.

  19. Stephen Tsai August 22, 2010 9:24 am


    There’s always a possibility the show might return in the future. Scott Morifuji made sure to keep the backdrop and things needed to run the show. But there are no immediate plans for the show.

  20. CoolEthan August 22, 2010 9:24 am

    Oopsie.. Kamalu Umu

  21. Stephen Tsai August 22, 2010 9:27 am


    After JC, Umu was sending his tapes to several schools. Charleston Southern offered him a scholarship, plus a work-study program for his wife, and the use of a daycare facility for their daughter. Umu said it was an offer he couldn’t turn down.

    But he said it was difficult being away from family. So, they moved back to Honolulu after a year.

  22. HawaiiMongoose August 22, 2010 9:28 am

    Stephen, one idea that surfaced on a couple of message boards this weekend is for UH to stay in the WAC for football only but move all other sports to the Big West.

    This would reduce travel expense for UH, which would help cover the cost of paying travel subsidies to the Big West. It would also reduce travel expense for the other WAC schools, which would make it easier for the conference to attract new members like Montana. And it would ensure UH still has a conference football schedule to fill out the middle of the season.

    A variation on this idea is for UH to replace BYU as a football-only member of the MWC (if BYU goes indy in football but leaves it’s remaining sports in the MWC) and for UH to move it’s other sports to the Big West. To me this would be an ideal arrangement.

    Is anyone at UH exploring these options?

  23. Stephen Tsai August 22, 2010 9:29 am

    I’m amazed there are 72 junior colleges in California that field football teams. Why so few Division I teams?

    I suppose it’s because JC teams can travel by bus.

    And the California JCs don’t offer football scholarships.

    OK, I think I just answered my own questions. (These voices in my head. Stop talking so loud.)

  24. Stephen Tsai August 22, 2010 9:32 am


    That’s not a bad idea. Not sure if the WAC will go for it. Once upon a time, UH competed in the WAC in men’s spots while the women were in the Big West.

    The WAC, I’m sure, would want the value of the Rainbow Wahine volleyball and softball teams. But, hey, times are changing. Hope that option you’ve mentioned is in the discussions.

  25. Da Punchbowl Kid August 22, 2010 9:33 am

    Interesting, Mongoose.

    Those might be the only options not previously posted here. 😉

  26. Stephen Tsai August 22, 2010 9:34 am

    Ever see a UH administrator? Bluetooth device in the ear, surgically attached to a cell phone.

    And yet, if you ever call one of them, straight to voice mail. Then a few hours later, you get a return call. Maybe.

    Often it feels like we’re Charlie’s Angels waiting for that call.

  27. chawan_cut August 22, 2010 9:35 am



  28. Stephen Tsai August 22, 2010 9:36 am

    And, for future off-topic debates, Kate Jackson is and always will be the best Angel. (Well, except for Rod Carew.)

  29. Da Punchbowl Kid August 22, 2010 9:37 am

    I’m watchin’ the Waipio game. Anybody besides me think that some of the NJ fans’ skins look a little more “orange” than usual? *coughspraytancough* 😆

  30. Da Punchbowl Kid August 22, 2010 9:38 am

    The coach too?

  31. CoolEthan August 22, 2010 9:38 am

    Thanks ST,

    Most of the teams in that Conference are either military or bible belt schools. Reminds me much of the Texas Div 2 programs.

    Good to see Charleston Southern coming back to islands soon.

  32. Da Punchbowl Kid August 22, 2010 9:42 am

    Where did Gigi disappear to?

  33. Da Punchbowl Kid August 22, 2010 9:42 am

    And what ever happened to Brew808?

  34. d1島 August 22, 2010 9:45 am

    Da Punchbowl Kid:

    August 22nd, 2010 at 9:37 am

    I’m watchin’ the Waipio game. Anybody besides me think that some of the NJ fans’ skins look a little more “orange” than usual? *coughspraytancough*

    Well, I understand Snooky(sp) wasn’t very happy about the new tanning salon tax! 😆

  35. Da Punchbowl Kid August 22, 2010 9:45 am

    Sweet double play by Waipio!

  36. d1島 August 22, 2010 9:46 am

    Come on Waipio…pour it on! (runs, that is. not tan goop)

  37. d1島 August 22, 2010 9:47 am

    Howzit DPK!

  38. Da Punchbowl Kid August 22, 2010 9:48 am


    You follow her tweets too? 😆 BTW, that’s Snooki with an “i” I believe.

    How bout them lads from Kalaepohaku last night?

  39. d1島 August 22, 2010 9:55 am


    Negative on the tweets; I have other sources! 😎

    The Saints looked good for sure; as did the Red Raiders, Warriors and even the “O” Clan. Gonna be a great season in HS football!

  40. Kekoa (iPhone) August 22, 2010 9:57 am

    Watching BG do his Shane Victorino impression playing in the Seasoned Citizen fast pitch league this morning.

  41. d1島 August 22, 2010 10:02 am

    It’ll be good to get the whole gang back on the practice fields tomorrow now that the roster limit gets relaxed.

    Until #2 son started playing in McMinnville, I never realized DIII ball had the kinds of numbers some programs get since there are no roster limits.

    Oh man, football is back at the ‘Catdome!!!! What seemed like so long ago now just feels like yesterday as 180 Wildcats and their families poured into the ‘Catdome to kickoff the 2010 fall camp with the ‘Cats annual BBQ. It’s a great way to break the ice and help assure those new players (80 frosh) and their parents that their sons are in the right hands over the next 4 years.

    Some other successful DIII programs field *over 200 players* when they start camp!

  42. d1島 August 22, 2010 10:04 am


    Just listening to Waipio but I wonder if BG can replicate some of the Fielding Feats of young Mr. Akau? 😉

  43. d1島 August 22, 2010 10:05 am


    Way to GO GO GO!

  44. Da Punchbowl Kid August 22, 2010 10:08 am

    Wadda catch! Wadda win! Wadda Waipio!

  45. Manoa Mist August 22, 2010 10:16 am

    Re #28…

    Please. Nobody beats Farrah in her prime. Nobody. Farrah, Suzanne Somers and me. That, was the dream.

  46. wafan August 22, 2010 10:17 am

    Good rainy Sunday morning!

  47. wafan August 22, 2010 10:18 am

    Bravo Waipio!

  48. d1島 August 22, 2010 10:18 am

    How important are the upcoming decisions facing the UHAD?

    This writer from the SLTrib harkens back to when Utah State produced the likes of Merlin Olson and dominated Utah CFB and the change then that brought us to today.

    In 1962, when Utah State was the premier college football program in the state, rivals Utah and BYU left the Aggies behind while forming the new Western Athletic Conference. The move would permanently change the college athletics landscape in Utah.

    It’s all cyclical.

  49. wafan August 22, 2010 10:19 am


    Fresh scones smothered in clarified butter, and with an egg (over easy, of course!).

  50. Slugger August 22, 2010 10:20 am

    Congrats to Waipio! Go, Wessai!

  51. d1島 August 22, 2010 10:20 am

    Manoa Mist,

    But you gotta love that Sweet Southern drawl…. 🙂

  52. J August 22, 2010 10:25 am

    LA/IE readers… If you want to watch Colt’s 15 seconds of fame from last night, KTLA is showing the game right now. 7:48 in the 4th..

  53. gigi-hawaii August 22, 2010 10:28 am

    Not too good: Waianae and Leilehua

    Pretty good: 2nd string Iolani QB (better than the 1st guy)

    Is this really true: Waipio can come from behind and actually win the World Series??? I thought they were in the losers category and only competing for 3rd place?

  54. Manoa Mist August 22, 2010 10:32 am

    #51 d1:

    Hey, I’m not saying I wouldn’t have taken any of Charlie’s Angels. TV or movie version. I’m desperate, shallow and not afraid to admit it.

  55. duffer aka Ace (iPhone) August 22, 2010 10:33 am

    The Waipo middle of Corpuz and Akau are tough, along with the catcher and centerfield. All fundamentally sound. The catchers they’ve used all play good defense.

  56. gigi-hawaii August 22, 2010 10:33 am


    meanwhile, hubby and I had a Big Breakfast from McD’s. Not as good as your scones…

  57. Steve August 22, 2010 10:37 am

    Da Punchbowl Kid:

    Gigi is back!!!!

  58. gigi-hawaii August 22, 2010 10:40 am


    Don’t know how much I’ll be back on the blog. Lately, a few people have been monopolizing the conversation with just about only 1 or 2 topics being discussed. So I decided not to interrupt and only skimmed over the discussion without really reading it.

  59. d1島 August 22, 2010 10:43 am

    Geez! Someone tell this guy the boyfriend/girlfriend angle has already been used for the BYU/MWC/WAC story!

    I’m just wondering where are these parents with the *ton of money*???

    And then along comes Wendy, a girl you liked a long time ago. She bugged you back then, but now she tells you that if you’ll give her a second chance, she’ll treat you better than you’ve ever been treated before. What’s more, her parents have a ton of money and they’re awfully generous with it.

  60. SteveM August 22, 2010 10:43 am

    Good morning everyone!

    d1島 — thanks for the email photo of my seats at Aloha Stadium at 5:20 PM yesterday. Grrrrr. But it made me realize that if we put up a tarp/tent from the last row forward, so nobody’s view gets blocked…

  61. gigi-hawaii August 22, 2010 10:43 am

    I guess I am still optimistic gigi. Why? Because the State of Hawaii will never see the demise of UH football.

    I mean, without football, where are we?

    Somehow, it will survive.

  62. d1島 August 22, 2010 10:54 am

    Heard about the BYU TV facility before but never in detail like this…WOW! 😯

    …and again, it’s all paid for by private donations! Start whipping out your checkbooks (or credit cards), Warrior Fans!

    It sits on a hill, its tall glass facade gleaming in the sunlight, a modern tower housing a state-of-the-art TV studio that rivals anything in the industry.

    This 100,000-square-foot building, filled with enough soundproof walls to build another complete building, has a giant belly filled with complicated cables, wires, high-definition production wares and state-of-the art technology that feeds a modern TV studio.

    Next to it is a sports studio. All of this can split off four BYU-TV broadcasts simultaneously and is rigged for digital media operations and Internet streaming. This tower of glass and mortar is hard-wired with video and audio HD capability direct to LaVell Edwards Stadium and the Marriott Center, reducing the need for one of those giant TV trucks.

    And a truck? BYU owns the best HD production truck in the West.

    This network, with its capabilities and instant access to DirecTV and Dish Network’s basic platform and 200 cable companies in North America, is at the center of the national story that caught the attention of the college football world this past week.

  63. wafan August 22, 2010 10:54 am

    GG . . .

    McD’s is not a place I visit more than twice a year — at most. Their drive though is interesting, though.

    The double lane drive-throughs incorporate a digital camera that snaps a photo of you and your vehicle. The photo is shot to India then back to the payment window where it is electronically matched up with your food order. Then it shows up at the food delivery window so you get the food you ordered. Most of the time, anyhow.

    Weird part is it is cheaper to go via India than through the US.

  64. SteveM August 22, 2010 10:57 am

    Good thought, gigi. Yes, UH football will survive.

  65. d1島 August 22, 2010 10:57 am

    Why would we really care about BY-Who playing on our schedule and broadcasting the games on their network?

    There is a huge difference between reaching 4 million households as opposed to an estimated 50 million in North America and another 60 million to 70 million in Spanish and Portuguese-speaking countries of South America and parts of Polynesia. That is what BYU’s facilities can provide the school and its owner, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, who’d love to couch sports with other programming.


  66. wafan August 22, 2010 10:59 am

    d1 . . .

    School where I taught video/audio broadcasting was hardwired to the gym, football and baseball stadiums. We would broadcast the big games via the local cable company.

  67. d1島 August 22, 2010 10:59 am



  68. Garret August 22, 2010 11:01 am


    Not only is BYU’s TV facility impressive (they have some capabilities that ESPN itself doesn’t have), it should be noted that numerous representatives from Texas toured BYU’s TV facilities a week or so ago and they had discussions on a variety of hush-hush things. Is it a coincidence that BYU started to seriously explore going independent after that? And that Texas and BYU announced a home-and-home deal after the craziness started last week?

    The representatives from Texas were impressed by BYU’s TV facilities, and it is true that BYU may be advising Texas on setting up Texas’ TV channel. It is also true that the Big 12 had 2 openings and they allow their schools to make their own TV deals and run their own networks…something BYU always wanted that the MWC forbid.

  69. Garret August 22, 2010 11:03 am

    Article about how Utah State wants a do-over with the MWC.

    Two days after announcing that they had turned down overtures to join the MWC, Utah State is now reconsidering that decision.

    According to Tony Jones of The Salt Lake City Tribune, a source familiar with the situation says the school is in the process of negotiating an invite to join the Mountain West.

    But would the MWC now take Utah State? Jon Wilner of the San Jose Mercury News brings up a good point on a recent blog post, if you are the Mountain West, why take Utah State? Why not focus on teams like Houston or SMU? Adding the Cougars or Mustangs would help bring a bigger national audience than say Utah State.

  70. d1島 August 22, 2010 11:04 am

    How important is Utah CFB to the MWC?

    The departure of Utah and possibly BYU would be a major blow to the MWC’s network. Those two schools clearly have been the biggest audience draw, and when they play one another the rivalry sets records — the best numbers the league can produce. Larger population areas of San Diego, Las Vegas and Denver should pull big numbers for MWC network, but they just do not.

    Numbers speak volumes.

    The proposed MWC in 2013 has a current average attendance in football of just more than 28,000 per game in their respective stadiums. BYU draws just fewer than 65,000 on Saturdays. The actual TV differential draw may not be that dramatic, but it is a significant bump on Comcast’s radar and they know it.

  71. d1島 August 22, 2010 11:08 am

    Craig Thompson said that the moves last week had nothing to do with retaliating for the WAC/BYU’s exposed plan….it was all about expanding opportunities for the MWC.

    Really? 🙄

    There is no evidence the Fresno, Calif., or Reno, Nev., markets would be any different than San Diego or Las Vegas — places where viewers, subscribers and commercial contracts have just not caught fire, although Fresno is in Comcast cable territory.

  72. d1島 August 22, 2010 11:09 am

    …maybe get hope.

    Where is Sea World? Where is Las Vegas and all its glimmer? Who is selling The mtn., anyway, and will we see that “To the Max” advertisement every break for another season?

    What is BYU going to do?

    Go for exposure.

  73. d1島 August 22, 2010 11:10 am


    Undoubtedly, those facilities must be impressive to a lot of “folk”….

  74. Derek August 22, 2010 11:16 am

    For perspective and input on their thoughts, Jim Donovan should talk to Dick Tomey, Bob Wagner, and June Jones about their ideas. It’s always good to talk to friends of the program and those that were involved before. Donovan should also talk to any friends at ESPN about how UH and ESPN can form some kind of arrangement, such at the last game of the night on Saturday and helping with scheduling marquee teams. A conduit for instance would be Neil Everett, or even Chris Berman who loves Hawaii. Of course, it would be more inticing if the Hawaii Football team is doing really well and is exciting. This is why it is so important for us to beat USC on Sept. 2. Winning is the best way to sell the entire program.

    We have seen this for women’s vollyball and softball, as well as men’s volleyball and baseball.

    Men’s tennis were also WAC champions. Some sports need improving, such as soccer. Maybe we need a new change over there. I agree right now we need to wait to see what BYU will do first. But, we should be planning our moves on the assumption that if BYU stays in the MWC, or if go independent in football and stay in the MWC in the other sports.

    As far as the WAC is concerned, the conference should make Fresno St. and Nevada to stay through the 2011 season. However, I also believe that La Tech and Utah St. will leave the WAC at the first chance that they can get, to Conf. USA or the MWC respectively. If that happens the WAC is dead.

    In retrospect, UH should have assessed $100 for the activity per semester. However, after 2 years the fee will be increased anyway. Things never go down, sorry to say.

    Todays question: Who will be UH’s first football commitment for 2011? A offensive ineman, a receiver, defensive lineman, or linebacker? We’re pretty much loaded in QBs and in the secondary for now.

  75. d1島 August 22, 2010 11:19 am

    Maybe it’s good to keep in mind that Utah St. is not a fledgling program trying to expand its base but instead actually has some long-time support. It may be down now but there may be some significant alumni base that could revive their FB program….I’m sure *someone* there thinks so!

  76. Garret August 22, 2010 11:21 am

    Simple way to demonstrate how critical BYU and Utah are to the MWC’s TV deal:

    I’ve read that all cable customers in Salt Lake City pay $1 per household for the mtn channel. That is *more* than Big 10 cable customers pay in any state!

    The mtn network isn’t even available in San Diego, Vegas, Dallas/Fort Worth, and a lot of other cities where the MWC has schools. What good is being in a big TV market (like San Diego) when the channel your conference wants to show your games in isn’t considered important enough to be shown in your TV market?

    This is why almost all of BYU’s games this season are scheduled for the mtn network and why TCU’s games go to VS/CBSCS…only certain markets like Utah consider the mtn important enough to be added. But if you are BYU and you want your games to be seen, it must be very upsetting that your games have to be shown on the mtn network that only a few people get.

  77. Michigan Warrior August 22, 2010 11:26 am

    Maracle is listed twice.

    Another story (possibly) on transferable credits, this time (maybe) involving Manupuna. Are we ever going to address this issue? Is there any deadline for anything anymore? The longer BYU waits to announce it’s decision, the less time we have to solidify anything else.

    The visual tour of BYU’s TV Production facility is enough to make one dream. It’s no wonder why everyone is scrambling around now!

  78. papajoe2 August 22, 2010 11:28 am

    Going back to my question earlier in the blog, what is the power rating for Utah State? Can it be more the UH? Will it hurt or help any conference it joins?

  79. Steve August 22, 2010 11:28 am


    #61 – You are so right there. Curious to see how much the New Governor will get involved.

  80. Derek August 22, 2010 11:30 am

    Also, does UH move back the WAC home games to 6:30 p.m. or 7:00 p.m. forcing Fresno St. and Nevada to stay one extra night in Hawaii like old times. We don’t owe them any favors right now for “selfishly” abandoning the WAC at the first sign. It’s business and it’s for the Hawaii economy too. Sorry!!! They can stand the jerk for one extra day because they;re saving money by moving to the MWC, right. I really hope we can sock it to em for the $5 million each. At the same time I thought Utah St. showed a lot of ethics and honored their commitment to solidarity to the WAC. Their President and AD have class. Whatever happens, I will root for them against the other teams, except against us of course.

    Bachi loss of the season: Virginia Tech beat Boise St. in the season opener. Ha, Ha, Ha.

    Hey, Brian Griese is predicting it on College Football Live this past week. Down goes Frazier!

    Oops. Down goes the Broncos.

  81. papajoe2 August 22, 2010 11:48 am

    USU is now lobbying the MWC to join them since the WAC may be doomed.

  82. Garret August 22, 2010 11:49 am


    I don’t have time to look up all the different BCS computer polls to compare (and some of them don’t provide last year’s data for free), but I saw that Sagarin had Utah State at 100 and UH at 105 last season. I think I remember that UH might have been slightly higher than Utah State in other computer polls.

    However, conferences have to project (guess) which schools will do well in the next 2 years also since those are part of the evaluation period. Utah State is picked above UH in both the WAC coaches and WAC media polls.

  83. Garret August 22, 2010 11:51 am

    If UH wants to join the MWC in the future, it might not be a good idea to upset some of the schools that will have the ability to vote on whether or not to invite UH. Spite might feel good, but it could be very costly in the future.

  84. d1島 August 22, 2010 11:59 am

    After this I’ll get off the coaches’ (and the Blog Host’s) case about the lack of live scrimmages in camp. I really couldn’t care less about the “fun factor for fans” in this but the point is getting the players to “practice like you play”. SC had a scrimmage this weekend and it wasn’t for the fans because, as we all know, they close their practices to everyone and his brother!

    It’s fine to point out that there were no season-ending injuries this season coming out of camp but then why strap up at all if that’s the case? And what about non-collision injuries? Those occur anyway as well…

    If for no other reason than to have your back-ups prove that they can be relied upon in the event that “one play” occurs early in the first game, I think the value of a live scrimmage has been proven countless times in the past and also as recently as yesterday in other camps.

    All of the quarterbacks except Moore were “live” in the scrimmage, meaning they could be hit. The quarterbacks are off-limits in practice. That breeds some bad habits, as freshman Joe Southwick learned when he scrambled too long and got drilled by Shea McClellin.

    Coughlin enjoyed taking his red, no-contact jersey off in the scrimmage. He and Southwick both scored touchdowns from inside the 5-yard line.

    “It was nice to be live finally, to kind of show what we do,” Coughlin said.

    Coughlin and Southwick are competing for the backup job — a competition that could continue during the season.

    For Coughlin, this is his last chance to make a mark on the program.

    *Tsigh* we’ll see how effective the strategy was in 11 days!

  85. BleedGreen808 August 22, 2010 12:14 pm


    Looking forward to it.

  86. Annoddah Dave August 22, 2010 12:24 pm

    ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs,

    ST #28, While Kate and Farrah had all the press….Jaclyn Smith has the looks and the enduring clothing and housewares line.

  87. jm2375 August 22, 2010 12:28 pm

    d1 – sorry, every time I see the phrase “strap up”, I remember Pride.’s “strap off and boy down”. 😆

  88. SteveM August 22, 2010 12:50 pm

    RE: #80 & 83

    I have been advocating a later start now (except for ESPN 800l-lb $$$ gorilla time changes). Part of it is selfish, but part is to encourage ticket sales (and revenue) at the stadium since I believe we lost a lot of sales this year. Any money we saved the visiting team came right out of our pocket. Change one of the circumstance that made them decide to stay home and maybe they’ll drop in for a “significant” game.

    I should also look at the airlines that can’t delay their red-eye flight an hour or two later. Yes, I know there are official downstream connections to keep. But since airlines are prone to “mechanicals’ that delay flights for hours at any time, how about coincidental mechanicals once or twice a month on a Saturday night in Hawaii? But that’s asking a risky lot. But gives meaning to the question of how much support (officially or not) UH football can we hope from the commercial airlines that fly here…and especially the local one.

  89. Pauoa Boy August 22, 2010 12:52 pm

    I’m excited for the season opener against USC but have much skepticism about our offensive line. We have weapons galore at the skill positions, probably the top core wide receiver group in the WAC hands down and maybe the nation, Alex Green and Chizzy as thunder and lightning combo in the backfield, Moniz a steady QB who doesn’t make many mistakes, but yet our offensive line is not yet solidified. Obviously the one weakness that has plagued us the last couple years on offense is our Oline. Two weeks before USC and Coach Shaw is still fumbling around with the lineup on the interior line. I mean Sila went down then you got Tiwanak getting all the reps at center and d’oh now you want to throw Leonard in the mix??? Wasn’t Leonard already learning guard duties which is new to him since he played primarily tackle last year??? Granted guys can pick up the techniques and assignments but is that asking too much too soon for one guy to learn and yet you still are unsure if he’ll even start at center??? I think this will hurt us if this Oline isn’t solid and being kept consistent in these practices leading up to the season opener. Hope I’m proven wrong and our Oline is a surprising bright spot this year, if they can hold it down then we will be explosive once again!

  90. Pauoa Boy August 22, 2010 12:58 pm

    John Hardy-Tuliau is a beast and I agree will be a star very soon. Hope Coach Lumpkin begins a recruiting pipeline with Vista Murrieta High because they have a solid football team every year and always have loads of D1 potential players on that team. They are very well coached and have been tops in their division every year although it is a very new school. Bradley Randle who I was hoping Coach Tuioti tried to recruit is also from the same school and he is now at UNLV about to tear things up at RB.

  91. isleboy August 22, 2010 1:00 pm

    My concern about USC game is the play of the Linebackers…..Aaron Brown’s ankle injury has not allowed him to practice at all…..look at present backers…..undersized or inexperienced……

    Feel the offense will move the ball and score vs USC…but my concern is can the DEFENSE

    keep the game close…..Thats the key to the game……

  92. Na Koa Mike August 22, 2010 1:02 pm

    The first Na Koa lunch of the season is tomorrow, Monday, August 23rd.

    2010 Na Koa lunch schedule: http://www.nakoa.org/?p=421

  93. Garret August 22, 2010 1:03 pm

    Reading through some old Star-Advertiser articles, one thought hit me…UH might NOT be able to go independent because Oceanic owns UH’s TV rights until 2014! Here is an article about the 6-year contract that was signed in 2014:

    When UH’s local television rights were awarded in 2008, Oceanic Time Warner Cable supplanted KHNL/KFVE as the primary contractor, taking on the bulk of a $2.3 million annual payout to the athletic department.

    Included in the six-year contract is a three-year agreement that allowed KFVE to retain broadcast rights to UH events. KFVE is entering the final year of that period, referred to in the contract as the “transition term.”

  94. Garret August 22, 2010 1:05 pm

    Even if Oceanic loses a little bit of money with their TV deal with UH, they might not care because the big benefit of their owning UH’s TV rights is that it keeps people in Hawaii away from Dish or DirecTV.

    The UH contract, along with its proprietary OC 16 high school sports channel, gives Oceanic Time Warner a local sports niche that other cable outlets and satellite providers DirecTV and DISH Network are unable to match.

    Studies indicate that while satellite subscriptions have grown on the mainland, Hawaii is one of the markets least penetrated by satellite providers. Less than 10 percent here are satellite customers, compared with as much as 30 percent on the mainland.

  95. Garret August 22, 2010 1:07 pm

    So, all of this talk about UH going independent and getting ESPN to televise every game seems to ignore the fact that Oceanic owns UH’s TV rights and has a big incentive to not give them up. There are 4 years left on the TV contract with Oceanic…four years is an eternity in today’s world of conference realignment. Will any other WAC team (Utah State or La Tech especially) leave in the next 4 years, taking away the conference’s NCAA basketball spot and probably killing the conference?

  96. Duster August 22, 2010 1:12 pm

    The reality is that BYU is calling the shots. There is a certain amount of helpless feeling as a UH fan, ut it is what it is. I still believe that USU is the key. BYU seems to value its tie to USU. If UH can somehow stay aligned with USU, Maybe BYU will go wherever USU and UH end up, whether its the WAC or elsewhere.

    And I agree with Garret in #83. I am a firm believer in not burning bridges. No use being petty or vindictive beyond whatever was agreed upon in the solidarity agreement (which sounds a bit Lech Walesa-like). We may need a favor later and may be able to guilt them into giving it.


  97. Pauoa Boy August 22, 2010 1:12 pm


    Paipai moving back to linebacker is where I think he will flourish with his size and speed. George Daily-Lyles seems to be another Solomon Elimimian type and as he gets more game time experience will be a beast. Cory Paredes is a hitter and will make his share of plays. I agree though that they will be tested. The defensive line although experienced is where it needs to start. If they get ran over like in Wisconsin game, etc…it wouldn’t matter who was playing linebacker we will get stomped. Regardless the defense has the potential to be solid and we’ll see once kickoff begins Sept. 2nd what our boys are capable of. I’m glad Coach Aranda has full reigns as the defensive coordinator calling the shots because he is very smart and will have our boys prepared the way they should be. I’m sure our defense will surprise this year…

  98. d1島 August 22, 2010 1:19 pm


    Very good point re: Oceanic.

  99. Kazz August 22, 2010 1:23 pm

    Nevada and Fresno State are great.

    I wish nothing but the best for Boise State.

    BYU is a fine institution.

    UNLV’s fans ARE classy.

    Craig Thompson invented electricity.




    There… my words have helped my chances of UH getting into the MWC.

    Words on a blog and individual opinions of fans CAN do BIG THINGS!!!!!!!

    (I’m being sarcastic)

  100. Kazz August 22, 2010 1:27 pm

    Fans have every right to feel how they feel and express their anger or frustration.

    The only thing that matters is how our representatives in the UH athletic department and the university’s “brass” are handling things with regards to cooperation.

  101. Garret August 22, 2010 1:29 pm

    Words on a fan blog don’t matter to conferences. Purposely making student-athletes spend an extra night by changing the game time will hurt their school’s budget and is not a positive thing for their academics either. Big difference.

  102. Stephen Tsai August 22, 2010 1:34 pm

    Only way last-game-of-the-nation deal works is if ESPN decides to black out the games in Hawaii while allowing Oceanic to do the pay-per-view airing.

    ESPN would do that for Hawaii as an independent but not for Hawaii in a league. Why? Because if you do it for one market, you do it for all WAC teams.

    Of course in this cake-and-eat-it theory, UH gets national deal and Oceanic. Nice goal, but we’ve seen every Brady Bunch episode. Greg can’t date two women at once without him ending up dateless and eating ice cream with Alice on a Saturday night.

  103. Stephen Tsai August 22, 2010 1:36 pm

    No, words on a blog might not impact conferences, but it does impact UH.

    An administrator called me yesterday, interrupting my second nap, to ask about my weigh-my-option comment.

  104. gigi-hawaii August 22, 2010 1:51 pm


    did you convince the administrator to see things your way???

  105. OldDiver August 22, 2010 1:51 pm

    Great to see you back Garret,

    Any thoughts on how things might play out, and again for entertainment purposes only.

  106. HawaiiMongoose August 22, 2010 1:54 pm

    Garret, regarding #95, I understand (though I haven’t seen it from an authoritative source) that NCAA rules will be changing effective 2011 and it will no longer be necessary for a conference to have had six members together for five years to retain an NCAA basketball autobid. Instead the new rule will be:

    – At least six conference members for an auto-bid in sports other than basketball

    – At least seven conference members for a basketball auto-bid

    – At least eight members playing at the FBS level to be considered an FBS conference

    If true, the WAC could rebuilt even if it loses another one or two members. It would be tough but USU going to the MWC and/or LaTech going to CUSA wouldn’t necessarily kill the conference.

  107. koakane™ August 22, 2010 2:06 pm

    Spell defense with an A-K-A-U

    Solo home runs accounted for three of the game’s four runs while fielders all over the diamond made some spectacular grabs in Sunday afternoon’s win-or-go-home elimination game between the West and the Mid-Atlantic, but it was Hawaii who ultimately won out, taking a 3-1 victory over the Toms River National Little League at Howard J. Lamade Stadium to stay alive in the 2010 Little League Baseball World Series.

    With the game tied at 1-1, the West champs took over the lead for good in the top half of the third with the only small ball score of the day, when Kahoea Akau led off with a single through the gap. Moving into scoring position on a fielder’s choice, Akau would find himself just 60 feet from a 2-1 advantage after starting pitcher Shiloh Baniaga hit an infield single with one out.

    So when Kaimana Bartolome hit into a fielder’s choice and the Toms River shortstop went right to second for the force play, Akau took off for home, scoring easily and bringing a one-run edge to his dugout.

    But before Hawaii was able to take over the lead, one it wouldn’t relinquish, neither team could get a firm handle on the momentum, as it see-sawed between the champs from the Mid-Atlantic and the ones from the West throughout the opening frames.

    In the top of the first with two quick outs against his team, Baniaga helped himself and the Waipio All-Stars before ever taking the mound, lifting a no-doubter to the lawn chairs on the left field hill to get the scoring started. The solo shot gave the West a 1-0 lead with New Jersey coming to bat.

    “It felt good,” said Baniaga. “It made me feel more confident, and I knew I had this game.”

    But Blum would even the score on Baniaga’s third toss of the day with a homer of his own out of the leadoff spot, this one to straightaway centerfield.

    “That was a really good hit as far as the home run from their leadoff batter,” said Hawaii manager Brian Yoshii. “I think Shiloh threw the ball where we wanted him to and he just hit it long.”

    After regaining the lead at 2-1 in the third frame, the Waipio Little Leaguers would tack on another run in the fifth, a monster leadoff homer to right-center field off the bat of Ty DeSa. But they wouldn’t need it, thanks to a stellar defensive play from Akau with just one out in the bottom of sixth – an out that could have changed the tide of the game.

    With one on and one out, pinch hitter Zach Burns connected for what seemed destined to be a bloop single over Akau’s head at second base to put two on with one out.

    But with a towering leap from one of the tournament’s most physically diminutive players – at 4-foot-11 and 86 pounds, he is the smallest on the Waipio team and among the smallest in the Series overall – Akau touched back down with the second out securely in his glove. So securely, in fact, it was rather stuck there.

    “At first, the ball was hit pretty hard so I was kinda nervous,” he said. “But I knew I could make [the play] because I’ve made plays like that before. And the ball got stuck in my glove.”

    “Nine out of 10 times, that play is not made,” said Toms River manager Paul Deceglie. “That changes the outcome of this game.”

    But that was far from the only display of defensive prowess from these two teams in the affair.

    “I think we had six or seven of those [go against us] today,” Deceglie said. “Any one of those a foot a different way and it’s a different game.”

    There was also the sliding catch from Bartolome in right field that kept the Mid-Atlantic’s Russell Petranto off the basepath in the bottom of the first. Then there was another defensive spectacle from Akau – the first of the game from the second baseman – a batter later, when he snagged a sinking liner just before it touched down on the infield dirt for the second out of the frame.

    Or, there was the impressive double play turned in the bottom of the fifth.

    But don’t forget about the show the Toms River defense put on in the tightly contested affair, none more impressive than left fielder Joey Rose’s play of the game – possibly of the tournament – in the top of the final inning.

    With one out and runners in scoring position, DeSa, who had homered for Hawaii in his last plate appearance, lofted a ball deep but well into foul territory. Not satisfied to let the ball drop and prolong the life the Waipio All-Stars in the batter’s box, Rose sprinted toward the orb’s earthly destination, tracking it all the way to the tarp, where he reached over the obstacle to make the grab and the second out of the frame.

    But when Brysen Yoshii took off from third to try to add another run for the West champs, Rose fired a rope from deep in the recesses of foul territory right into the glove of catcher Jeff Ciervo, who applied the tag and withstood a collision at the plate to gun down the runner, save a score and get the Mid-Atlantic All-Stars out a serious jam.

    “I give credit to them – that was a tough play,” said Yoshii. “If I were the third base coach, I would have sent [the runner] also, because that’s a difficult play. They made a very hard play there.”

    “They’re a great team and they make those kind of plays. They make things happen,” said Deceglie of his side. “Going over the tarp, throwing a strike to home, Jeff Ciervo holding on to the ball — that was a major league play. And I’ve seen so many of those with this team.”

    In fact, he had just seen another from his team, when in the top of the fourth, pinch hitter Justice Nakagawa looked to have put runners on first and second with a single into shallow right. But a quick glove and an accurate slide from replacement rightfielder Billy Lumi foiled the effort, scooping up the would-be hit and sending the runner scurrying back to first.

    But the inning wasn’t over.

    With runners already on first and second two hitters later, Hawaii’s Ezra Heleski laid down a strong bunt right on the third base line, one that had sacrifice written all over it. But a quick Rose, playing third base at the time, sprinted down the line to meet it. Shortstop Patrick Marinaccio read the play and entered a footrace with Hawaii’s Noah Shackles, beating out the baserunner, handling the near-perfect toss and getting a huge out at third to take away the West’s lead runner.

    And pitcher Michael Tiplady didn’t let the big play go unrewarded, closing out the inning on the next at-bat with a called strike three.

    “Michael Tiplady did a great job today,” said Deceglie. “I’m just really proud of all these kids. I know they’re a little down in the dumps right now, but in a half hour they’ll be fine, I know it.”

    And they have nothing to be sad about after a game that seemingly brought out the best in both sides.

    “It was a great run,” Deceglie told his squad after the game. “You guys should keep your heads up high. We played a very very great game, and Hawaii had an excellent game.”

    “[Our kids are] always feeling like they’re gonna do their best,” echoed Yoshii, “so when they come in[to a game], they’re gonna give it all they have and that’s the spirit that they have, and their heart.”

    Baniaga earned the win with a three-hit, six-strikeout effort, allowing a single run in five innings of work. Dane Kaneshiro got the save, his first of the tournament, issuing just a walk and fanning one in a 15-pitch sixth.

    “We have three really great pitchers, and [Dane] as the obvious choice to come in,” Yoshii said. “He’s very poised and we’ve put him in this situation before, so he’s very calm and confident out there.

    “I have tremendous confidence in these pitchers,” he continued. “[Shiloh] did a great job – held them to one run and three hits. [I have] absolute confidence in all their stuff.”

    And even though Hawaii got the win, they still have a long road ahead if they want to advance into the U.S. Semifinals.

    “I feel very good about having Dane start in our next game,” Yoshii said, looking forward. “From then on, I have some other pitchers that I feel pretty good about too. If you haven’t noticed, our game is defense and pitching — that’s what keeps us in the game.”

    Toms River will play its final contest Tuesday afternoon against Saudi Arabia in a crossover consolation game at Lamade Stadium. Waipio will take on the loser of Monday night’s battle between the Great Lakes and the Southeast, who the West has already lost to once this Series, in yet another elimination situation.

    “Treat every game going forward as a championship game, because that’s what it is,” Yoshii said. “It’s one game and out. We have to go into each game leaving everything on the field, going all out… with no regrets.”

  108. Shoko August 22, 2010 2:07 pm

    Wonder where the line will close at with the UH-SC and BSU-VT games.

  109. Shoko August 22, 2010 2:14 pm

    Anyone watching the 49ers?

  110. papajoe2 August 22, 2010 2:24 pm

    #107 Koakane, wow that’s some nice writing. What, no beer yet? Oh wait, maybe plenty beers that’s why good. Non the less, great piece Koakane. Have a great day.

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  112. koakane™ August 22, 2010 2:33 pm

    afternoon everyone, hope you are having a fine day

    article on the waipio victory in LL newpaper. skip it if not interested. btw congrats to those boys and coaches.

    wafan and d1 check email

  113. koakane™ August 22, 2010 2:34 pm

    pj2 thanks for the kudo’s but credit belong else where. you have a good one

  114. Garret August 22, 2010 2:38 pm

    Any thoughts on how things might play out, and again for entertainment purposes only.


    I’m leaving in the morning, so I’m not back long. By the time I get back I think everything will be decided regarding BYU, Utah State, Houston, etc. and hopefully UH will be in a good spot.

    How likely are the different outcomes? My wild guesses:

    5% UH gets invited to the MWC. This is the best-case scenario in my opinion, but I think the 5% is being optimistic.

    25% UH leaves the WAC behind and goes independent. This only works if either the WCC or Big West can be enticed with travel subsidies from UH. This is the option I prefer…but I prefer that UH get paid by both ESPN and Oceanic (as ST says, this isn’t likely) and that the conferences are happy with taking UH in without any travel subsidy.

    35% UH stays in the WAC and tries to make things work. The 2 Texas D-IAA schools are invited right away, and then a few years later maybe 1-2 California D-IAA schools are ready to be invited and North Texas slides over from the Sun Belt.

    35% UH stays in the WAC and the WAC ends up folding within 3 years. That results in UH going independent because no conference would be an option by then.

    By the way, I’m going to be meeting with a couple of people that are pretty high up in the food chain of a WCC school, so I might ask a few questions before/after meetings. I respect NDA agreements so I won’t repeat anything here, but it would be good for my curiosity/sanity.

  115. Garret August 22, 2010 2:40 pm


    The UH/USC line started at 19 and now USC is favored by 21. I think that BSU was a 3 point favorite before and now they are a 2.5 point favorite.

  116. Last Call August 22, 2010 2:52 pm

    remember this “What’s said is not what’s meant .”

  117. Last Call August 22, 2010 3:02 pm

    Meanwhile the flagship of UH sports Na Wahine Volleyball looked pretty darn good at their scrimmage.Looks like two freshman Hartong and Waber will start Friday against San Diego .

    Just think if all this conference stuff was about chick volleyball not football we would be in the PAC 12 right now.

  118. d1島 August 22, 2010 3:04 pm

    Go SCU! 😆

  119. Last Call August 22, 2010 3:06 pm

    Forbes says Fresno State and Nevada Act Savvy not Selfish


  120. Steve August 22, 2010 3:06 pm

    Last Call:

    If football was anywhere close to what wahine volleyball is, we would not be in this situation right now.

  121. Last Call August 22, 2010 3:15 pm

    Update on who cuts the lawn in my house.

    I’m weighing my options .

  122. last caller August 22, 2010 3:20 pm

    “chick volleyball?”

    that’s the class of an…….

  123. Kazz August 22, 2010 3:26 pm

    Looking forward to a dominant thrashing of San Diego this Friday by the 2010 edition of Rainbow Wahine Volleyball!!!!!!!!!!!

  124. Last Call August 22, 2010 3:31 pm

    Craig Thompson reminds of Rod Blagojevich, they kinda look alike . I think it’s the hair.

  125. Kazz August 22, 2010 3:57 pm


    August 22nd, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    Last Call:

    If football was anywhere close to what wahine volleyball is, we would not be in this situation right now.

    At first, other conferences would balk at the travel time/distance and cost, but then after JD would have offered subsides they’d take us.

    We could have been EXACTLY like BSU’s football program and they’d still try to throw us under bus with the travel cost and issue, but perhaps they would have been more open to accepting subsidies.

  126. Kazz August 22, 2010 4:01 pm

    What Nevada and Fresno State did was selfish. It’s the very definition of selfish.

    To compare my view of it is using the old story of the guy that steals bread to feed his starving family.

    I wish we had the opportunity to act on selfishness and I hope that soon we can be looked at as jerks by others too for being selfish.

  127. Steve August 22, 2010 4:03 pm

    Kazz, I do agree with you about Fresno and Nevada.

  128. CoolEthan August 22, 2010 4:08 pm

    re: # 102

    If only Greg stood up those two dates, stayed home and played Twister ( Jan could of spinned the needle), or Mystery Date with Marcia, he would of scored.

    Would of made a great episode too !

  129. CoolEthan August 22, 2010 4:13 pm

    RE: #99

    I thought Al Gore invented electricity?

  130. Kazz August 22, 2010 4:16 pm


    How can Al Gore have the time to invent electricty when he’s still fighting his battles to rid the world of ManBearPig?

  131. Kazz August 22, 2010 4:18 pm


    Don’t you find it odd that Forbes Magazine is chiming in on college athletics?

    MORE proof it’s all about money and s*** about the student athletes and athletic competition.

  132. OldDiver August 22, 2010 4:39 pm


    I guess Forbes would also call savvy a husband who professes his love for his wife and then a few days later elopes with the rich gal down the street.

  133. Kazz August 22, 2010 4:43 pm

    There is no room for ethics in business.

  134. LizKauai (iPhone) August 22, 2010 4:52 pm

    Ok. Got my UH Logo pedicure and manicure. Ready for FOOTBALL!

  135. OldDiver August 22, 2010 4:54 pm



  136. Stephen Tsai August 22, 2010 5:22 pm

    The Forbes guy did not just say that Fresno State and Nevada will get more media exposure by going to the MWC. Doesn’t Fresno get the same media coverage because its being covered by the same people covering them in the WAC. Are more media outlets now covering Fresno because it changed conferences?

  137. madeinhawaii August 22, 2010 5:37 pm

    UH has got to light up the skies this season and the next.

    If the Warriors can pile up the yards and lead the nation.. 1st, 2nd, or 3rd in passing and/or total offensive yards, they will garner attention, interest and viewers. As such, it may play in our favor that UH stuck with the RnS even after JJ left. The Warriors need a gimmick to increase their TV appeal and hopefully, Rolo and Mouse will be the perfect left-right punch to deliver a knock-out!

  138. Annoddah Dave August 22, 2010 5:48 pm

    ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs,

    I just hope that UH is not the one to turn off the lights!

  139. Kekoa (iPhone) August 22, 2010 6:22 pm


    Let it be known throughout the Tsaiko Village, that BG is a *superior* softball player. There’s video evidence of him displaying his skills during today’s game.

    His teamates were so impressed by his speed and quickness on the base path, they insisted he host a clinic! Move over Rich Miano. 😎

  140. Shoko August 22, 2010 6:23 pm

    #115 Thanks Garret.

    How was the sack by Travis for a loss of nine? Nice 🙂

  141. Shoko August 22, 2010 6:25 pm

    Frankly, I don’t know why the MWC would even want Utah State over Houston. Houston has the bigger TV market and the better BCS ranking, at least the past two years. Only thing I can think would benefit the Aggies would be BYU supporting the move. Whatever reason that may be.

  142. Lucius Ogarro August 22, 2010 6:42 pm

    great website.

  143. kkv2000 August 22, 2010 6:53 pm

    I feel that UH has to focus on its positives.

    1. It has a fan base that rivals the lower half several bcs conferences

    2. We have the sheraton Hawaii bowl, it is not going away as long as fans support it.

    3. we have the last spot on television with no competition

    4. we have the hawaii exemption

    5. the country’s population is growing along with youth paeticipating in football camps making more d1 football players. The number of D1 football programs has not grown appreciably in the last few years. Example hawaii. in the 70’s and early eighties maybe 6 to 10 players would get mainland offers, now its in the thirties.

    We need our leaders to focus on us the fans and our program and concentrate on making it high quality. I do not know of football programs with great fan support and all these other positives failing.

  144. RedZone August 22, 2010 7:10 pm

    Wahine wins 4-0 over Wagner.

  145. Ipu Man August 22, 2010 7:23 pm


    Anybody know any jokes to lighten things up a bit?

  146. HawaiiMongoose August 22, 2010 7:27 pm

    Confirmation of #106:


    I’m starting to feel a little better about the WAC’s future prospects. Anyone up for road trips to San Antonio? I hear there’s a lot to see there.

  147. Slugger August 22, 2010 7:30 pm

    Hope Josh Manupuna has success in his next step in life. Finish school for lifetime success.

  148. Shoko August 22, 2010 7:36 pm

    San Antonio is a very historical location. Lot to see there including great restaurants, especially if you’re into Mexican cuisine.

  149. Ipu Man August 22, 2010 7:42 pm

    One day while cruising Wall Mart I saw this blind Portuguese guy with his “Seeing Eye” dog. Suddenly he started swinging it around in a circle like a rag doll. A store clerk ran up to him and cried, ” Mister, mister are you all right?” The man replied with ”I’m fine… just looking around.”

  150. Ipu Man August 22, 2010 7:49 pm

    One day a Portuguese man walked into a store. He said to the attendant “May I please have a spicy Portuguese sausage?”

    The attendant replied “Oh, are you Portuguese?”

    “You know, I kind of resent that”, said the man.

    “If I had said I wanted an Italian sausage

    would you have asked me if I was Italian?”

    “No, sir”, said the store attendant.

    “Well then how come you asked if I was Portagee?”,

    shouted the man.

    “Because this is a hardware store”, said the attendant.

  151. Ipu Man August 22, 2010 7:50 pm

    I luv Frank DeLima

  152. Hank August 22, 2010 7:56 pm

    #10….”Schmooze Craig Thompson”…sorry ST….but YUCK!…and then give “best friend” appearance to Benson – whew -…hey, what about just being professional, honest and acting with integrity?

  153. mctruck August 22, 2010 8:01 pm

    Something just crossed my mind this evening while tucked away in bed ready to count sheep; but before I went off into lala-land, I figured I’d better get up and voice/blog my thoughts and see if anybody has input into maybe a wacky idea and tell me maybe I should go back to bed?!

    What I think, would probably need action(s) from both our state government…as well as Senators/Representatives to Washington…(hello Mr. President as well), to prode the NCAA to make further allowences for UH to remain a D1 program.(Make allowances for having less athletic programs), and still qualify as a D1 program.

    Seeing how most institutions shun affiliation with UH because of, (travel distance and related expenses),should the NCAA require a special subsidized fee to fix this imbalance from the major conferences when a school travels to and from Hawaii for games?…at least should UH go independent, the playing field is more balanced?…either that, or absolutely no athletics at all??

    Well, off to bed….niteeeee-night!!

  154. tom mui August 22, 2010 8:05 pm

    HawaiiMongoose #147

    I have been to Fresno, Boise and San Antonio. Believe me, San Antonio is the best!!!

    Great city!

  155. d1島 August 22, 2010 8:09 pm

    tom mui,


    No Dick’s Last Resort in Fresno or Boise!

  156. d1島 August 22, 2010 8:09 pm

    …I know, I looked.

  157. Hank August 22, 2010 8:19 pm

    #61…D1…BYU TV is the reason why I think they go independent…too much potential there for big revenue, which currently is being eaten alive by the leeches over there at the MWC.

  158. BG August 22, 2010 8:21 pm

    One and done…

    Just stopped in to say “aloha” before hitting the books. Wonderful to see kkv2000 on here. He goes back to the Rainbow Sports Network that I have fond memories of. Aloha kkv!!!

    A beeg shout out to Henry too. Henry lurks. Hey, my friend…just jump in some time.

  159. Hank August 22, 2010 8:27 pm

    #121…Last Call…if Forbes thinks that Fresno and Nevada weren’t selfish…that’s simply consistent with the mentality on Wall Street that Bear Stearns, Lehman, Goldman Sachs, Fannie/Freddie, Countrywide and the rest of those cheaters did nothing wrong with bungling “subprime mortgages” to send us into this horrible recession.

  160. LizKauai (iPad) August 22, 2010 8:27 pm

    ” Quarterback Colt Brennan made his Raiders debut midway through the fourth quarter. Cable inserted Brennan into the game in a favorable situation, with the ball at the Bears 9 and the game well in hand.

    Brennan was sacked the only time he dropped back to pass, and the drive ended with a Swayze Waters field goal.

    Brennan joined the Raiders on Aug. 7 and has received a crash course on the offense the past two weeks. Cable held out Brennan from the first exhibition game.

    The Raiders likely will keep only three quarterbacks on their final 53-man roster. Jason Campbell is the unquestioned starter. Bruce Gradkowski and Kyle Boller hold a huge edge over Brennan in terms of NFL experience.

    It’s also possible the Raiders will attempt to re-sign Brennan if he doesn’t make the 53-man squad and assign him to their practice squad. That would give him a year to learn the offense.”


  161. d1島 August 22, 2010 8:28 pm


    Yes, for football.

    If they elect to go with the planned jump to the WAC for other sports, Hawaii gets to benefit from that TV exposure whenever its teams play BY-Who.

  162. LizKauai (iPad) August 22, 2010 8:29 pm

    #137. OldDiver – pix on facebook. 🙂

  163. Ipu Man August 22, 2010 8:31 pm

    One of the toughest jobs right now must be UH Athletic Director.

    He can’t please everyone and perform miracles.

    Well….maybe he can?

  164. Da Punchbowl Kid August 22, 2010 8:42 pm


    August 22nd, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    tom mui,


    No Dick’s Last Resort in Fresno or Boise!


    Please explain that last line.

  165. Derek August 22, 2010 8:44 pm

    I have been to Boise and Logan, UT. Nothing to get excited about for sure. I’ve never been to Fresno and I probably won’t in my lifetime now that they are leaving the WAC. I’ve only been to Reno once and that was a long time ago. Probably the best time is between May thru October. Any other time it is probably too cold.

  166. Hank August 22, 2010 8:46 pm

    #144…kkv2000…i’m with you!..Let me continue…

    6. Hawaii High Schools are recruited by teams all over the nation, and coaches would love to tell recruits that “we have a game scheduled at Aloha Stadium in the future.” The Pac 10/12, BYU and Utah seem to be here every frick’in year…

    7. Na Koa is growing.

    8. We have friends in June Jones, Paul Johnson and Kenny Niumatalolo…

    9. We have a solid team this year, filled with skilled veteran talent on offense and depth on defense (esp on D-Line and the backfield) that means at least Hawaii Bowl – we win, and opportunities become likely.

    10. Virginia Hinshaw.

  167. Kazz August 22, 2010 8:46 pm


  168. RainbowCliff August 22, 2010 8:55 pm

    Good evening Tsaiko Nation !

    The latest news from USC is this: The Trojans has been granted by the Associated Press to qualify for the AP National Championship IF it can go undefeated, play IMPRESSIVE during their football schedule ( In other words DOMINATE ! )

    The Trojans need Notre Dame and Minnesota to have solid seasons. They need the SEC’s top team to finish with two losses and they HAVE to be UNDEFEATED with nobody else undefeated.

    IF all of this take place USC despite being on probation will be awarded the AP National title as national voting writers will not hold these current athletes gulity of what former Trojan Reggie Bush has done due to improper benefits as voters strongly agree that these student athletes had NOTHING to do with infractions that led to no consideration for BCS Title, Pac 10 championship or Rose bowl invite for the men of Troy.

    USC scrimmage for the final time before their September 2nd opener at Hawaii. No tackle to avoid injuries as both quaterbacks Barkley and Mustain had terrible passing days with three interceptions between the both of them as one was brought back for a touchdown.

    Kiffin “PRAISED” the defense but was most happy that NO player emerged injured. With less then 2 weeks before the Trojans depart for Honolulu, Kiffin is still in search of a starting tailback, a number 2 receiver and healty guards for the offensive line.

    Senior tailback Allen Bradford has emerged from camp as number one on the depth chart but Kiffin is keeping a tight lip as stating “nobody’s the starting tailback”. Sophomore receivers Brice Butler and De’Von Flournoy has made impressive bids to start opposite of senior wide out Ronald Johnson. Freshmen Robert Woods and Markeith Ambles are very talented but lack consistency as Kiffin will not be afraid to give both TALENTED receivers an opportunity to play as their upside is TREMENDOUS !

    The defense is FAST and DOMINATING behind a front seven that is arms, head and elbows to the ball as Kiffin firmly believes his defense will be SUPERIOR through out the season. Corner backs Shareece Wright and Torin Hayes will rotate on Salas as freshmen safety Dion Balily is the next coming to Ronnie Lott !

    Sr. starting coner back Wright spoke for the defense “we are tired of beating each other up for a month as we can’t WAIT to let that out on some one else” as good folks that wait is just TWO weeks away as the Warriors are FIRST on the list !

    Have a good evening folks as I report the facts from the Trojan Horse !

  169. Annoddah Dave August 22, 2010 9:14 pm

    ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs,

    Rainbow Cliff: Wouldn’t that be great if the Warriors emerge from their locker room through a replica of a Trojan Horse instead of the football helmet!!?? Don’t know if half the fans would understand the significance??? Oh well, just a thought….

  170. jm2375 August 22, 2010 9:21 pm

    Injury report – ST texts that he injured his *bowling* hand. 😀

  171. RainbowCliff August 22, 2010 9:34 pm

    Annoddah Dave !

    All I can say IF that could be possible to add extra motivation to the Warriors to help them make the BIGGEST up set in this College football season I am all for it !

    This USC team is “FOR REAL” as Kiffin has done an omen’s job with all the distractions to keep this talented group of players together. Hawaii has to play “error free ball and keep USC offense off the field”. USC defense is the PRIDE of the team but you can’t sleep on Quaterback Barkley or his talented core of tailbacks and receivers.

    Trojans will have a secret horse and that is it’s tight ends as THREE are legitimate NFL draft picks with blocking, speed and catching skills. Hawaii must secure in their tackles as USC is most dangerous in yards after the catch as they are “fuel burners” from their skill positions.

    MUST put pressure on Barkley and “RING” his bell as he is prone to be jumpy if some good HITS come his way IF not he will pick you apart as he is strong, agile and very accurate.

    Can’t get down 21 to 0 after the first quarter as then USC will be out to pour it on as Kiffin is no saint for compassion as he truly believes it is “USC against the world” as he wants that AP National Championship and his goal is to RUN up the score on EVERYBODY !

    September 2nd we will find out as in discussions with my tennis usc alumni they are convince it will be a complete DOMINATION !

  172. Ipu Man August 22, 2010 9:39 pm

    The bigger they are, the harder they fall…

  173. Hank August 22, 2010 9:44 pm

    #169 “Dion Bailey is the next coming of Ronnie Lott”…hmmmm….we’ll see if he shut down Greg Salas first.

  174. badayu August 22, 2010 9:48 pm

    kate jackson is a dude.

  175. d1島 August 22, 2010 9:49 pm


    better I *show* you at the TsaikoGate! 😯

  176. papajoe2 August 22, 2010 9:50 pm

    I have never been to Fresno. In fact, I’ve never been to most of the WAC cities, but a friend of mine who travels a lot held his hand up as high as he could with his palm facing down and said this is heaven. He then held his hand, plams facing down, to his waist and said this is hell. Next he put his hand down to his knee and said this is Fresno. True story. He then went on to explain that it seems like every other store in Fresno was a liquor store and there were literally, people sleeping on the sidewalks passed out drunk. That’s why, although I had the chance, I’ve never been to Fresno.

  177. Ralph August 22, 2010 9:50 pm

    UT San Antonio softball holds the 4th and 5th place in NCAA home runs. In 2006 they hit 105, and 2004 101 bombs.

  178. RainbowCliff August 22, 2010 10:04 pm

    Hank: It is not freshmen Dion Baily you have to worry about IT is senior all pac ten corner back Shareece Wright #24 That will take on the sole responseability of Salas as he is great in coverage as he had 4 interceptions in USC final pre season scrimmages and LIGHTS the fuel to USC defensive unit with his trash talking and physical game prescence !

    The bigger they all the harder they fall I hope is true as USC is very skilled and talented on both sides of the ball as I hope MACK and his coaches has develop a game plan as staying in the game is very important from opening kick off as in reality this team is ANXIOUS to show a national television audience “DOMINATION” from start to finish !

    Good Luck !

  179. RainbowCliff August 22, 2010 10:13 pm

    Well good night folks as I got on late with you as gearing up for this house warming celebration has taken a lot of time today as 7 days is all that is left.

    Dream “BIG” as I will be there in SPIRIT when USC comes a calling at Aloha Stadium !

    Aloha !

  180. Kazz August 22, 2010 10:29 pm

    Just watching the KHON news and looked like the Rainbow Wahine soccer team had a another GREAT crowd on hand at the WPSS.

  181. LizKauai (iPad) August 22, 2010 10:57 pm

    Visited Fresno in 1967. It was hot. But it also was the place wher one evening, looking up at the stars in a park somewhere, I realized how tiny my teenage troubles were in relation to the visible universe and began to believe in God with confidence. 🙂

    As for the Warriors, I just want to see them start the season the way they will end the season- with determination, unity, preparedness, humbleness, and a win.

    Just watched the Raiders replay. Colt did not suck. It was important for him to not suck. Hope he gets more chances. He really wanted that touchdown at the end but then he became part of the team and accepted the decision not to risk injuries and just let the clock run out. It was also nice to see him scramble and get yardage back and not make a foolish throw or try to be a showoff.

    Our Coltster is growing up.

  182. Kazz August 22, 2010 11:00 pm


    August 22nd, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    I have never been to Fresno. In fact, I’ve never been to most of the WAC cities, but a friend of mine who travels a lot held his hand up as high as he could with his palm facing down and said this is heaven. He then held his hand, plams facing down, to his waist and said this is hell. Next he put his hand down to his knee and said this is Fresno. True story. He then went on to explain that it seems like every other store in Fresno was a liquor store and there were literally, people sleeping on the sidewalks passed out drunk. That’s why, although I had the chance, I’ve never been to Fresno.

    Explains the culture of undeserved arrogance.

  183. Stephen Tsai August 22, 2010 11:05 pm

    I’ve been to Fresno. Picadilly Inn — there are three of them — is where most teams stay. Best restaurant is Haufbrau, which makes the best sandwiches. Malls are so-so. Downtown is scary. Fans are pretty great. Really into the Bulldogs. Table Mountain Casino rocks.

  184. Stephen Tsai August 22, 2010 11:07 pm


    UH/WAC tried the nice-guy approach. And 14 teams left their arse.

    I’d say it’s time to try another approach.

  185. Mark August 22, 2010 11:22 pm

    Hey ST . . . what about UH trying to entice the MWC to accept them as football only, with the other sports still going to another conference? In any event, it would seem that whether or not UH even has a small shot at an invitation may hinge on whether Houston still is able to jump ship from CUSA . . . what do you think?

  186. al August 22, 2010 11:22 pm

    i’ve been to fresno in the heart of august.

    one could fry an egg on that concrete high school stadium’s bleachers at clovis west.

    it was 108 degrees one evening at some rundown motel and the ac went out before the second game could start.

  187. al August 22, 2010 11:24 pm

    how tall is dee maggitt?

    last year the recruiting publications had him listed as 5’10”. current official roster indicates that he is 5’8″.

  188. Stephen Tsai August 22, 2010 11:28 pm

    Houston might have a problem getting out of C-USA. Was told the buyout is enormous.

  189. Mark August 22, 2010 11:31 pm

    Some folks speculating $15 million for the Houston buyout fee. If so, that might leave an extra open spot in the MWC if they elect to go to 12 and BYU leaves. Is anyone in Manoa actively trying to “negotiate” with the MWC like USU is reportedly doing?

  190. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc August 22, 2010 11:45 pm


    Here’s a quick summary of the MULTI-TASKING COMMUNITY SERVICE Project held on Saturday, August 21, in downtown Kailua. In slightly less than two hours, four guys gathered enough trash along the bank opposite Hamakua Marsh to fill seven 33-gallon trash bags. During the same time, two others working at the main location not only gave away over 65 CFL light bulbs, but also they collected about 275 HI-5 cans & bottles plus about 25 lbs. of food for the Hawaii Foodbank. Mahalo to everyone for turning out on an hot Saturday morning in August to do some good.


    Meanwhile, mark your calendars on September 7, from 5:30 pm to 7:30 pm at Murphy’s – am actually working with Don Murphy himself to make sure that everything goes well. More details to come.

    BACK TO SPORTS: DrDoc was planning to go to the Man Camp, but his boss is taking him to a professional improvement class Tuesday evening and dinner afterwards at 3660 On The Rise. I’ll be in Kane`ohe hosting a political coffee hour.

    Meanwhile, I would like to go to the Wahine Clinic Wednesday evening, but I don’t want to go by myself. Is anyone here going? If so, can we meet up beforehand and go out afterwards?

    If Jim Donovan & Virginia Hinshaw do not reach out to Neil Abercrombie and vice versa, then I am going to be very upset with all three of them. Mufi’s Snarker about UH should be enough for Jim to take Mufi on – two falls out of three.

    Be sure to save your HI-5 cans & bottles and bring them to the USC T-Gate.

    See you manana.

  191. al August 22, 2010 11:58 pm

    #190…most definitely.

  192. Mark August 23, 2010 12:05 am

    I truly hope so, Al. I also hope it’s not just more of the “business as usual” approach from years past.

  193. Michigan Warrior August 23, 2010 3:31 am

    Our Hawaii Exemption is just not good enough to entice other conferences. What we need is for the NCAA to understand and realize this in the wake of the latest realignments, and then come up with further concessions in regards to non-football sports. Or, perhaps we need to come up with something and have our AD present it to the NCAA. Otherwise, we will be looking at a purely academic institution in the very near future. So much for the NCAA promoting athletic amateurism.

  194. Garret August 23, 2010 3:35 am

    RGM has decided to try for a practice squad spot with the Dolphins instead of going back to the CFL. He’ll probably make more on a NFL practice squad because over half of the CFL’s season will be over.

    The salary drop from an NFL minimum rookie stipend of $325,000 US to $93,600 for a player on the practice roster for an entire season is still enough for returner Ryan Grice-Mullen to consider his options.

    Buono spoke with the former B.C. returner/receiver on the weekend and was told Grice-Mullen expects a practice-roster offer from the Miami Dolphins, who released him last week, even though it’ll still be some time before that move would take effect. Adding Grice-Mullen to the roster as a returner would have a potential ripple effect on the Lions, who have been giving increased first-team offensive reps to rookie Yonus Davis.

  195. Michigan Warrior August 23, 2010 3:41 am

    I know… since everyone is bent on leaving us out of the BCS equation…

    Have all travel (air, hotel, bus) to and from Hawaii (and Alaska) paid for by BCS money, kept in a separate fund specifically for this purpose only. This goes for ALL sports. A detailed itinerary must be submitted by the visiting school for proper reimbursement, with a maximum allowed, based on school size and region.

    This will be in addition to the Hawaii/Alaska Exemption, but will allow for travel of all sports.

    Eh, no get mad… just trying fo’ tink outside of da BCS Box.

  196. Garret August 23, 2010 3:41 am

    JJ still hasn’t signed his extension with SMU…

    Jones still hasn’t signed his two-year contract extension that would keep him on the Hilltop until 2014.

  197. Garret August 23, 2010 3:45 am

    C-USA is creating an online network where fans of any C-USA school can watch any of their games online for a subscription fee. This would be *amazing* for UH fans on the mainland and I hope that the WAC follows what C-USA is doing.

    Conference USA promised to stream most of the Knights’ sporting events live online for a subscription fee, but the service managed by CBS College Sports was inconsistent.

    Conference USA Commissioner Britton Banowsky said the league has made considerable investment in enhancing the consistency of digital broadcasts of its events.

    “We’re taking a lot of that back for that reason,” he said of the All-Access platform controlled by CBS College Sports. “We want to be sure we have a conference-branded approach to that content. I think we’ll be in a much better position to make sure we’re really delivering what fans want to see.”

  198. lil.s August 23, 2010 4:04 am


  199. lil.s August 23, 2010 4:04 am


  200. NYUH August 23, 2010 4:28 am

    This guy has a lot to say about Hawaii


    Mark your motivational calendars

    * October 23: @ Utah State

    * October 30: vs. Idaho

    * November 6: @ Boise State

    * November 20: vs. San Jose State

    Again, the Warriors get San Jose State and New Mexico State to close the year, which will be a nice reprieve after getting hammered by Boise State on the road. If the Warriors are serious about being one of the WAC’s better teams, they had better be no worse than 3-2 in conference when the BSU date rolls around.

  201. Loa August 23, 2010 5:37 am

    morning gang! happy monday

    so with school back in session, practices starting at 7 am

    hmmm, did someone mention they were off tomorrow? 🙂

  202. d1島 August 23, 2010 6:00 am

    Great Morning All!



    Yup, off tomorrow but will prolly be checking out da new traffic website watching all the traffic headed into UH at that time 🙁

  203. djmitcho August 23, 2010 6:00 am

    Good Morning All! It’s the start of another week. Hope everyone has a good one. Sept. 2 is getting closer. Can’t wait.

  204. Loa August 23, 2010 6:11 am

    d1 – 10-4 – prolly going be brutal (da traffic)

  205. Kekoa (iPhone) August 23, 2010 6:32 am

    Good morning Loa! Tra-frick is always brutal on dis rock.

    D-1…didja read my scouting report on BG @ #140?

    You gotta see to believe. He’s got some wheels!

  206. Shoko August 23, 2010 7:02 am

    Uuugh, good ‘Monday’ morning folks. Hope everyone has a good day or at least tries. 😉

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