Iosefa cleared to play; Rasmussen joins
Running back Joey Iosefa yesterday received medical clearance to play in Saturday’s road game against Oregon State.
Iosefa will be included on the 64-player travel roster.
Still, it has not been determined what role, if any, Iosefa will have in that non-conference game. Iosefa has not participated in contact drills since suffering a fractured foot in late July. He recently was allowed to participate in position drills with the other running backs.
Defensive tackle Kennedy Tulimasealii, linebacker Lance Williams and tight end Jordan Pu‘u-Robinson will need at least another week to recover from injuries.
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Defensive tackle Kory Rasmussen has gained admission into UH and will be joining the Rainbow Warriors today.
Rasmussen, a 2012 Kamehameha Schools graduate, redshirted at Colorado last year. He was dismissed from the team and released from scholarship because of an off-campus incident.
Because of the dismissal, he is not eligible to receive a football scholarship this year. He is joining the Warriors as a walk-on.
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Oregon State announced this lineup:
Offense
SE—Richard Mullaney
SB—Kevin Cummings
LT—Michael Philipp
LG—Josh Andrews
C—Isaac Seumalo
RG—Roman Sapolu
RT—Grant Enger
TE—Connor Hamlett
FL—Brandin Cooks
QB—Sean Mannion
FB—Tuler Anderson
TB—Storm Woods
Defense
LE—Scott Crichton
LT—Mana Rosa
RT—John Braun
RE—Dylan Wynn
SLB—Jabral Johnson
MLB—Joel Skotte
WLB—Michael Doctor
LCB—Sean Martin
SS—Tyrequek Zimmerman
FS—Ryan Murphy
RCB—Rashaad Reynolds
Specialists PK—Trevor Romaine
P/H—Tim McCullen
LS—Michael Morovick
KR—Victor Bolden
PR—Rashaad Reynolds
Wow maybe #1
If the existing running backs, not Joey, could pick up the keys and provide some blocking in the backfield, Joey may not be needed at this time and could get up to speed for the next game. He is a terrific blocker.
KT needs to heal up.
Good Morning Everyone!
Prayers to my nephew Keke and teammates Joey and Kennedy. Heal up soon.
Go Bows! Will be there in spirit, if not eyes. Still hoping to find a streaming solution to watch the game.
Welcome home Kory! Always a blessing to have a son of Hawaii return home to play in front of his people.
Yes, I’ve surrendered to the new (old) name.
Would like to see the younger RBs get chance rather than Iosefa coming in too early.
Welcome Kory Rasmussen. Make the most of your second chance.
Good Morning Folks!
Welcome to Hawaii, Kory!
I believe in second chances!
Aloha Kory!
Alright Joey!
Go Warriors!
Great Morning All!
Great news about Iosefa and Rasmussen.
Hoping the healing continues well for the other Rainbow Warriors.
Oh, btw….
IS IT SATURDAY YET?
So is Rasmussen eligible to play THIS year?????
I would love to see Iosefa get extended playing time in the OSU game.
How many years of eligibility will Rassmussen have? Does he have to sit out this year? Wow, our Scout team seems pretty talented…
Shave da Beaver!!
Rasmussen has to sit out this year and he will have 3 to play 3 next year.
Marcus Malepeai had such a good game against USC, I wouldn’t be surprised if the coaches decide to red-shirt Kennedy Tulimasealii this season.
GOOD MORNING HAWAII!
Welcome Kory Rasmussen!
PONO: if Kory was a redshirt, didn’t play, is it because he is a transfer that he only has three years left to play?
Tommui- Since he redshirted last year he has four years to play. Since he transferred he has to sit out this year which burns a year of eligibility so he’ll have 3 starting next year.
Good morning, gang!
Steve Christian is at OSU in the receiver corps.
Go WARRIORS!!! Let’s go BOWS!!!
…that’s all I got
Eat da beavers!
er………
uh…
I mean…
Mistreat da beavers!
I mean….
er….
uh….
BEAT the living pelts off da beavers!
argghh…
I’m mean……
Leave it to beaver….
ahhhhh…..
Defeat da beavers!
Yeah!
Defeat da Castor canadensis’!!!
NYUHTX
try this link:
http://www.feed2all.eu/type/american-football.html
nearly all televised games are listed on game day.
its the same as firstrowlive, just with a different name.
kory rasmussen jr highlights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTuT9VHgRdY
Good morning Tsaikos!
Fast healing to the ailing Warriors. Listen to the doctors and trainers.
Ditto what d1 said, IS IT SATURDAY YET??!!
GO BOWS!
GO WAHINE!
Haka, you are a funny man…You are a man, aren’t you?
Back in the day, and I actually saw this on a big banner posted near the 50 yard line in Corvallis ” You can’t li$k our beavers… ” honest to god truth…
Ipu Man
Yes I am!
A man!
And you?
😉
Keep it simple. Pound the beaver…..in more ways than one.
Must be pretty easy to talk to women about beavers there. What a way to break the ice!
And a little intell on OSU, see: http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2013/09/oregon_state_beavers_rundown_m_10.html#incart_river
According to OSU’s week two depth chart, the Beavers have chosen their starters.
Obum Gwacham works to address inconsistency.
The Beavers continue to avoid tackling in practice.
OSU expects punter Keith Kostol back for Hawaii.
Oregon State comes in at No. 8 in Sporting News’ latest Pac-12 football power rankings.
Mike Riley says FCS teams have “outstanding players” on the Pac-12 coaches’ conference call. The audio can be found here.
Lindsay Schnell took some time to answer your OSU questions Tuesday.
Ken Goe writes that proliferation of spread offenses has made a place for college football’s little guys.
OSU knows it has something to prove against Hawaii, the Statesman Journal’s Gary Horowitz writes.
The Portland Tribune looks at the Beavers’ plan to improve their special teams production.
The Associated Press takes a look at how Pac-12 quarterbacks are settling in.
The Beavers don’t receive any votes in the latest AP top 25.
Right now, 247Sports ranks OSU’s Class of 2014 recruiting class last in the Pac-12.
The Beavers dropped 19 spots in USA Today’s weekly college football rankings.
Kaumeyer noted that they are going to take a conservative approach to Kennedy’s injury. 110% for that. He is young and has the potential for a bright, bright future.
It ain’t worth rushing it for any game imo. Hey, even redshirting him this year to get healed up and more importantly let Beamer beef him up more wouldn’t be a crazy idea.
I thought they have to sit out a year only if they accept a scholarship?
Is j. Ursua still committed to play for us? He would be here next year right? QB or WR?
Good morning Tsaikos!!!
I would rest KT at least for this game. He’ll be a tremendous asset in the future and don’t want to risk permanent injury.
Welcome to Kory and welcome back Joey….
like d1 said, IS IT SATURDAY YET???
One team, One mindset, One goal
31–J Ursua…is my old old classmate’s (and I’m talking elementary school) son, grew up in with his dad, down the road from him by old Nagamine’s. Pretty sure at WR.
The addition of Kory Rasmussen to the defensive line next season is huge. Man, I was just thinking about all the high caliber players Hawaii is adding to the D line, makes me wonder when is Hawaii going to add some high caliber 4 star transfers to the O line?
#32..Boo….same with me and K. Rasmussen’s mom…..we go back to elementary school…. LOL
Also sent you a text last night and will e-mail you today.
I think Kory can play this year. He was released from his scholarship and not taking a scholarship. But that would be for the compliance office to figure out.
Scout team’s defense is getting better.
IWWTTM: IF Kory was a walk-on at Colorado, and left the team and walked on at Hawaii, he would have been eligible immediately, like in rb Willis Wilson’s transfer from UW. Kory has to sit out because he was a scholarship player at Colorado. Even if he got a release from that school, he would be eligible to receive a scholarship here, but would still be ineligible to play. The rules are different for volleyball, as evidenced by Jane Croson’s case, where she went from a scholarship here to a scholarship at UofA and became eligible immediately after receiving her release from UH.
I heard Kory might get tried at O line since the need is bigger there
He’ll have to sit out a year.
Thanks Boo! He looked pretty good. Playmaker.
Walk ons can play right now. Willis Wilson was in the same situation.
With Kory and then Kennedy, Hawaii will have gotten the top local D-Lineman in the 2012 and 2013 class. I think there is no question that the talent level is rising. Wins/Losses? Better talent “should” result in an improved product on the field.
@42 Derek
Willis Wilson was a walk-on at UW. He is not receiving a scholarship from HI. That is why he is immediately eligible. Kory Rasmussen was on scholarship with CU. Even if he does not receive a scholarship from HI, he still has to sit for a year. A release from CU only makes him eligible to be placed on scholarship here (if available). He must still sit for this year.
UH needs to pound OSU’s new DTs. Both of last year’s 300+lb starters graduated and a few JUCO DT recruits failed to get into school. THey are thin on talent and experience on the interior. OSU’s secondary was a no-show vs EWU. There were Eagle receivers wide open all throughout the game. The LBs are the strength of their defense. Both of their OLBs have excellent speed and fly all over the field. If UH can establish the run, they can use the LBs aggressiveness against them with the play action. UH will have opportunities to gash the OSU defense.
Their offense was as good as expected. They were effective on the ground before abandoning the run once the game turned into a shootout.
Keep in mind OSU’s offense looked really good vs 1AA talent, and that the defense looked every bit as bad vs 1AA talent.
I think UH’s defense contains OSU’s offense for the most part. OSU did struggle to run the ball last year vs good defenses. They pretty much have the same personnel back this year minus star WR Markus Wheaton. Mannion won’t have the luxury of sitting back and taking his pick of wide open WRs to throw to like vs EWU.
UH’s offense will probably look a little better because OSU’s pass rush is nowhere near as talented or aggressive as USC’s attack. OSU runs a basic 4-3 and will be easier to prepare for now that there is fresh tape to study. USC’s new DC ran a completely different scheme from Old Man Kiffen’s 4-3 Tampa 2.
UH will win if:
1. They establish the run
2. Keep Graham upright
3. Make Mannion uncomfortable in the pocket
UH will lose if:
1. Oline can’t protect again
2. UH struggles on 1st down (UH must avoid obvious passing situations)
3. Lose the turnover battle
My Betting Pick: Take UH and the 27 points and under 54 total.
Pomai… OSU 27 – UH 17
19… nice
RE #19… Why the Beavers will win…
As Betty White might say…
“Everyone says to grow cajones… why? Those things are fragile. Kick ’em and a grow man will go to his knees and cry like a baby. Why not grow a beaver instead? Those things are virtually indestructible. They get stabbed and pounded constantly and are no worse for wear.”
42… 100% agree. Talent is on the rise. Still needs time to develop as the new & improved talent is still very young. I think UH is on schedule to be back to a quality program in 2014.
Too bad the 2013 schedule is so tough the 1st 5 games. The fairweathers will abandon ship by week 4.
46: RE 19… nice comeback LOL
Kennady and Kory project very well for UH’s defense in the future. The CU bio on Kory had him listed at 280lbs. Hopefully he’ll be 290-300lb (that’s an athletic 290-300lb, not a blob) by the 2014 season rolls around.
Anybody else feeling really old that kids born in the mid 1990’s are now in college?
I think creepy Independant Thinker is cruising the high schools for guys he can obssess over.
If its true, I like the potential of O Line of the future. Tupai was killing it before the injury, Dejon Allen, Kory Rasmussen, Leo Kolomantangi, John Wa’a, Kiha Sai are all beast and Gus Lavaka should be returning from his mission next season. Who did I miss thats not a JC recruit on the O line?
Maybe Graham will play better for his coming out party on the mainland. He’ll be more in his element, less jitters, corrected reads. We shall see. Let’s get it!!
I was reading up on Rasmussen’s dismissal from CU…
Sounds like Coach MacIntyre (former San Jose St coach) is cleaning out Jon Embree’s house and going for the full renovation. Kory is now the 4th member of the 2012 CU recruiting class to be removed from the team.
Lucky for UH, they pick up a quality player that didn’t fit in with the new regime under MacIntyre.
Actually wasn’t Willis Wilson a walk on at Washington which is why he didn’t have to sit out,similar situation to when Charles Clay transferred back home from SMU…
Great to read about Iosefa and Rasmussen. Agree with others – go easy with Joey’s return. We’ll be needing him down the line!
GO RAINBOW WARRIORS!!!
52…. Realistically, playing at Reser stadium is going to be 10x more difficult than playing at Aloha Stadium… Crowd noise, 1st road game, setting his protection is going to be a lot harder. Communication from QB to WR becomes difficult. Factor in some delay of game and false start penalties that will happen when dealing with inexperienced QB and WRs out there.
This is going to be a very hard match up for Hawaii. Offensively, Oregon St will be the toughest, if not 2nd toughest offense we face all year with Fresno. That unit is firing on all cylinders. We gotta be able to score or our defense will just get gashed.
If its walk on to walk on they are immediately eligible.
FUHA, please stop making up information….
Kory got kicked off the team for not complying with team rules and policies. He didn’t leave because he did not fit under the new regime.
Had he complied, he was going to get PT..
Kt Tuumalo, Kaiwi Crabbe, and Juda Parker still play for the Buffs.
Laura Beeman on the radio now.
Any news on Billy Ray Stutzman for this week?
Got nuthin against OSU, they got plenty good local boys, but that victory they pulled off in Aloha Stadium (2005 or 2006 can remember) with Cam Cameron really irritated me.
classic nickname from last year: pick six.
Agreed. OSU will be tough. I am familiar with this venue. College town. Great fans. Basically, the whole town goes to the game which includes most of the student body. It is THE event to go to on Saturdays, like other great college football schools. The stadium isn’t huge, but it is loud. Recently upgraded seating.
OSU Oregonians are the nicest folks you will meet.
The OSU fans are VERY disappointed with the performance last week. They will bring the noise and energy. They also know how UH played against USC and they aren’t taking anything for granted.
The mascot is called Benny Beaver or Benny the Beaver.
There was a sign hung outside a fraternity house when they played a powerhouse conference opponent that read, “You may beat our football team, but you won’t lick our b___rs.”
This will be a great experience for our rising team. We can do well, but it will be tough.
OSU football is a program I can see Hawaii becoming one day. Not a flashy program, but has quality and pride with great and supportive fans. Of course, we have to expand the quality fan base first. Too many haters and disinterested folks.
Probably best to red-shirt Kennedy unless he’s absolutely needed. Having him 100% next season will be a boon to the program. Besides, Kennedy can concentrate on his academics and ensure his eligibility going forward.
#64 slenzi
mike riley has been the head coach at osu since 2003. cam is an nfl guy, but now he’s at lsu.
read the same article fuha was referring to.
http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_23801412/football-cu-buffs-feel-new-energy-from-coaching
jeezy33 gotta relax man. we all read st above.
Is it true beaver tastes like chicken?
If Kory was able to enter UH fairly quickly, what was the problem in getting that DE kid that eventually went to Miami??
Bottom-line…UH “get chance” at OSU, but it will take a near flawless game to pull it off…Odds are against the Warriors, but still…get chance. OSU has proven to be vulnerable on defense, so it will be interesting to see if UH can take advantage.
Go Warriors!
Bowwar 69…. I’m guessing that there was no real problem to get him registered. He used it as an excuse for his indecisive ways or got a better ($$) offer from Miami.
71. Not to mention he changed schools 4 times already… Georgia, OSU, Hawaii, Miami. Wouldn’t be surprised if Miami isn’t the last.
72 – Probably true…Poor family seems to support him, but the kid doesn’t seem to have his head straight. Miami is a real “bandit” program that should be given the “death penalty” except the NCAA investigators screwed up…The “haggling” is still going on between the University and the NCAA, but I’m sure Miami will end up with some sort of penalty given their lack of institutional control.
73. We are solid on D line so I’m not too worried there… hoping we can get a legit O line transfer or 2.
Also want to see Ursua take reps at QB. Chow said when he signed him he wanted him to get a look there…
I blame taylor graham.
74. I think everyone knows.. Will you remind me tomorrow? and on Friday? Thanks
Did Vele make the travel squad?
Would like to save Joey for conference games… but he needs some reps if he’s healthy.
Season is looking up.
GO, RAINBOW WARRIORS!
Haka, sorry I was out. And yes my name says it all.
Q. How did the Oregon State Beaver die from drinking milk?
A. The cow fell on him!
RE: Kennedy.
DE, DT are positions with high injury rates. If he’s ready, might be better to play him and save any red shirt year against any possible injury he might incur down the road.
Ok… I’m just getting super tired of this…
Independent Thinker: You’re not an independent thinker, you’re just a contrarian… I say sky is blue, Independent Thinker says no… Why? Cuz it suits his need for attention…
Jeezy: I normally think your posts are really informative about players. You def have a sense of players talents… But this is getting to be a ridiculous broken record… Every day you say the same thing “Graham is not a good QB; its time to start someone else; Oregon State will destroy us…”
We all get your point…
I’m sorry but I’m one who believes in the my team. I live 5k miles away but will support the team through thick and thin…. Why don’t you support the team instead of just shooting them down every week….
WarriorNY…YES!!!
#65 Gobows
Yes Riley is the coach since 2003, but Cam Cameron had just left UH to be the OSU o-line coach and took a handful of good local prospects with him that he had been recruiting for UH on our dime. Then someone (not sayin it was Cam) started rumors that UH guys were trash talking the local guys who went to OSU, and it got all out of proportion. Long story short, Warriors got whooped at home.
JaM… Thank you for the support!
81… Where did I say that?
If you can quote where I talked about Graham today, please let me know where…..
I was simply responding to inyoface comment about wondering if Graham will have more success on the mainland…. You obviously have selective reading if you really believe your statement…
Jeezy, you’ve been saying that for 2 weeks now…..
If you’re referring to my 75 comment, I guess you can’t sense sarcasm out very well…
So what did I say today to trigger such a comment from you? I wasn’t even talking to u to begin with…
Jeezy, are you seriously saying I have “selective attention” about your critisicm of Graham? Dude look at your post for the past 2 weeks…
Tsaikos, Gobows! Just looked at Cam Cameron’s bio online. Not sure how I got him connected to UH and OSU. Apologize for the error. ST, who may I be thinking of that went from UH to be an assistant coach at OSU sometime around the 2001-2006? Its hell getting old, got CRS syndrome – Can’t Remember SHTuff.
#83 slenzi
Oh, yeah, you are talking about mike cavanaugh. He might be the greatest former hawaii coach out there.
You honestly only read what you wanna read… I praise JGW, Malepeai, and Marrell Jackson 2x more than I say negative things about Graham…
I’ts only a broken record to you because you chose what you want to read…
Going back to my point, I haven’t said a word about TG today..
93. YEs I a saing that.. I don’t see you bitching about me hyping up JGW…
Thank you WarriorNY. Jeezy used to contribute some interesting recruiting tidbits. Now he’s just obnoxious and it’s obvious he’s never played sports. The worst part is even when he’s clueless on stuff he’s turned into the Soup Nazi of Warrior sports. Reprimanding anyone who dares to have an opinion he doesn’t agree with. Brings this whole board down. Independent is just a troll. Nothing more. If you respond to this guy you’re just as guilty for keeping him active.
I don’t see you complaining about me thinking Marcus Kemp has a NFL future if he puts on right strength and has a Greg Salas type work ethic
98.. Yeah you know me so well turfwar… Lets go play some 1 on 1 on the courts and see who comes out on top
#100: lol watch out, guys. we got a bad mofo up in here!
Jeezy, I know you praise JGW, Malapaai and others… You were the first person to tell me what a great talent JGW was…
But no… it just is not true to say that you bring these guys up moreso than bringing the other players (like Graham) down…
103. You’re welcome to play too if you got game..
104… I talked about Graham after his poor performance…. 2 weeks is an exaggeration…. I also blame the O line too… I don’t think he’s an accurate QB… Neither was Chang… Difference is Chang had 5 years in the program and Graham has 2… I am not trying to change your opinion or anyone else’s. But this is a warriorfootball talk blog so I am going to state my opinions to people who want to talk football… If I could find something nice to say about TG after throwing 4 picks, I would but I can’t find anything I liked besides he throws a pretty good deep ball…
There is only 1 poster I debate on here… and Its FUHA because he posts false information constantly….
By support if you mean have to think everyone is great on the team then that’s your opinion… But by your definition, I guess no Jets fan support their team because I don’t know 1 Jets fan has anything nice to say about Mark Sanchez
Turfwar,
Lets not get into name calling…
Jeezy is a UH fan… I have no doubt about it… I just hope his thoughts will have a more positive outlook on the future of the program..
actually, I don’t think mark sanchez is as terrible as people make him out to be. The jets are just a terrible team in general. But i’m not a jets fan, so…..
106… Thanks…. I am just more of a realist fan who supports…. I will try to keep my criticism of the O line and QB play to a minimum…..
Pick six will resurface this year…
Gobows, Mahalo for remembering Coach Cav and the object of my irritation, I would have never gotten it.
Will alex green see some pt for the jets?
Ok… to just get things straight… ( I don’t know for sure) But I believe there were 2 INT’s off of Receivers hands… There was also 6 dropped passes… And an incredible amount of plays where receivers ran the wrong route…
Lets just get things straight… Mark Sanchez was the worst QB in the NFL… The difference is Mark Sanchez get paid 100 million dollars…
GoBows…
Yes, Alex Green should get some PT….
Still, I didn’t even talk about Graham today so I don’t know what triggered your post towards me….
And lot of picks will be deflected off WRs hands. It was still a bad check down that was thrown in between 3 defenders and catching a bullett 5 yards away is not an easy catch to make…. But we can have different opinion about the pick 6. I will just say I don’t think it was a smart throw…
I will agree there were some dropped passes. 2 by my guy Kemp. But I still have to judge by the game as a entire whole… But I said I won’t say anything bad so I will stick by my word….
I would probably take sanchez over gabbert, mccoy, all three arizona quarterbacks last year (well, maybe except kolb, when he wasn’t injured), and tebow. It’s not saying much, but sanchez has had some success before the entire jets organization fell apart.
As our family gathers tonight on Rosh Hashanah eve in the Jewish New Year 5774 we would like to wish all of you a sweet and happy new year. May you be held safe and well in this new year.
Jeezy: It was a poor game on all fronts: qb, recievers, linemen. We’ll see what improvements, if any, happens this weekend and if any player is put on a very short leash for the game after that.
Just noticed the post about Sanchez…sorry he’s a sexual abuser.
113… You may be right but that really wasn’t my point… People are trying to question the support I have for my team so I was making a point saying I support my team by going to every home game plus games that give me an excuse to go to Vegas. Just because I may think a specific unit is very weak and I state it doesn’t mean I lack support.. I am just very consistent when I say this team will probably win 4-5 games and that is good enough for me. It shows we are ready to take a big step next year when everyone is seniors.
115… The thing is I don’t expect any improvements this week because I think 1st road game in hostile environment makes the situation harder for a new QB with new Wrs…
I just hope are ready for Nevada when we open up MWC play…. I would love to be competitive against OSU but I am not going to get my hopes up. That is just my view. Everyone is diff.
Opinions are opinions. We all see different sides of the same elephant. It all looks a little different to each. Those in back might not be as appreciative. Still the same elephant.
I saw a bunch of poorly thrown passes that were behind the receiver or opposite of the direction the receiver was moving in. I saw a couple of flubbed receptions, but the first two interceptions I thought were poorly thrown. 1st one was too soft, the second one was well behind the receiver. The third was a a bobbled pass by the receiver that was on the money.
I saw receivers who were open but got the ball thrown to them too late when the defenders were already closing the gap.
Do I think TG can develop into a better QB? Yes.
Did I thnk he was ready for USC and the faster Division I pace? No.
Do I think he should have been relieved after the third or 4th sack? Yes.
Do I think he should have been relieved for the entire second half? Debatable. But I do think he should have been relieved somewhere in the second qtr for a series or two and coached up, observe, then go back in if only to give him a break.
Am I a coach? No.
Do I know football? Questionable.
Are these my opinions? Yes.
Does it matter? In the greater scheme of things, no.
Do I care? Mostly on game day when emotions are flying wild and free …
If I don’t like the Coaching staff, what can I do?
Support Softball, Volleyball, or one of the other sports, instead. Lots of other constructive stuff. If I don’t die over the next few years, I’ll probably outlast the current coaching staff.
jeezy: I understood your point with the sanchez thing. I was just changing the subject, that’s all. then some dude said that sanchez was the worst qb in the nfl. I kinda like the guy. I think he got more heat than he deserved, because as a qb you get all glory, and when things go south, you get all the criticism too.
I feel like there will be improvements (or there better be), even if it doesn’t necessarily show up on the scoreboard. Better communication with receivers, better decisions by taylor graham, more communication and improvement in line play. That’s not to say that UH won’t lose or get blown out, but I would be surprised if there wasn’t any kind of progression from USC to oregon state (and i’m not talking about the scoreboard). by the time MWC play happens (especially after a bye week?), there better be a lot of progress being made both in the process and on the scoreboard.
Jeezy, I for one look forward to your insightful (and sometimes inciteful) comments. Most of us know that you’re a true fan, and I don’t find your comments inciteful. As I have said before, you provide us with an objective point of view. WB is a fairly positive and collegial blog. Not so with other college team blogs. “Don’t change, don’t ever change.” I dunno, I think it’s a line from a movie.
I know now, “Don’t give up, don’t ever give up.” Jim Valvano.
I’m all for giving John Ursua a chance to play QB when he returns next year, hopefully in time for spring practice. He’s shifty, quick, athletic. He’s also a terrific point guard and after I saw his highlights he would could play for Gib Arnold too. Ursua seems to be a leader and is a playmaker. What I would like Ursua to do before he joins the program is to work on the weights and put on at least 15 lbs. of muscle to get stronger. I don’t know where he is doing his mission, but I hope he’s sleeping with a football.
In one game, Jameis Winston is now a Heisman candidate. What a performance, a redshirt freshman, 6’4″, 218 lbs., 27/29 completions, 359 yards passing, 4 touchdowns passing, 3 rushes for 15 yards, 1 rushing touchdown. Passes were on target w/ touch and he could zip it in there too. Jack Nicklaus’ nephew caught 3 TD receptions at TE. And to think Texas didn’t even offer him a scholarship. We Hawaii fans keep dreaming and the search for the Holy Grail continues.
I’m ready to see schroeder at this point take the helm, even though last year i said someone other than shroeder should take the helm. I hate seeing UH lose. Shite, I’m willing to see ST take the helm if that means we can make it a close game instead of a blowout. Anybody. Just put UH in a position where it can win or it can make it a close game.
If you try A and A doesnt work, then try B. If you try B and B does not work, try C. Try anything! I dont care. Just do something, damn it! Most of us hate losing when we can actually win or actually make it a really close game. A minority of those on this blog don’t mind losing for two or more years to allow the team to “mature” and “develop”, and that minority is a very vocal minority.
That said, we shall see.
Norm is a stubborn old goat and he will do this next game what he did all of last year – play the same people, run the same plays, make little to no adjustments of the type designed to bring victory or at least keep it close.
Next HC should be a person with some vigor, 40 – 50 yrs old, with 10 to 20 years of coaching left in him, therefore, in his prime, who is flexible, a manager instead of micro manager, and who is more concerned about winning than proving his theories or proving, to his detractors, that his decision to recruit player X, who sat on the bench for 3 years at Y university, was the right decision.
Anyone here who thinks the last minute score by the UH was a legitimate score is delusional. USC did not care at that point if the UH scored. The game was wrapped up. They were already thinking about going back to the hotel and going for a swim before packing and leaving for home.
IT,
Seriously, i’m drunk tonight.. and i still make ten times more sense then you..
If we didn’t give Ewaliko a shot a QB I don’t see us giving one to Ursua. Still hope we make a package for one of them though. If Boise did it with Grant Hendrix I don’t see why we can’t.
Jeezy33, yeah, I hope the team will be a lot better by Nevada because I am going to Reno to see that game w/ our tour group. I haven’t been to Reno in over 20 years so I’m looking forward to it. Hopefully the weather will be pleasant. It will be interesting to see how Nevada does against Florida State in Tallahassee the week before Hawaii. Chow should have lots of film on them during the bye week and you hope it helps us.
it is written, and it is proclaimed, warrior ny makes more sense than me.
congrats! warriorny! you are the man!!
lol stubborn old goat because he’s not yanking his qb after one bad game. gotcha. because this is what all great/competent coaches do. player development and continuity be damned.
However, I do agree that I’d like to see a young head coach (whenever the chow era ends) that can build some kind of long term continuity with the program, but then again, most young(er) coaches “with vigor” who display success at smaller mid major programs tend to leave after five years when they get a big money contract by a major program and work their way up. There aren’t very many chris peterson’s out there in the coaching world who will turn down big time offers to stay with the mid major (now major) program that he helped develop and now leads.
oh, and warriorny does that while he is drunk!
you certainly are a heavy weight at these matters, warriorny…
good for you…
glad to know that…
Ok Jeezy, we get it, we will lose and we suck and have no hope. Blah. Now go home!
also, IT, what a curious straw man you’ve built. we’re not talking about sticking with taylor graham if he shows no progression for “2 or 3 years” but 2 or 3 games. If there is no progression and he still is making the same errors, then sure, pull the plug. Progression in terms of, is TG getting better at his reads, and hitting the open receiver? Is the line getting better and giving him time to throw and the play to develop? Are the coaches making better play calling? Are the receivers not dropping balls and running the correct routes? Is the offense going in the right direction, which will eventually be evident on the scoreboard and the win/loss column, especialyl moving into the third season?
if not, then as the season goes on, and the team isn’t getting any better, change the quarterback after the third game, put chow on the hot seat after this season and fire him after the next if it doesn’t get better. The season has to play out first.
there are definitely two schools of thought here…
school one – the true believers, the guys who drank the kool aid, who will not tolerate anyone who questions the thinking or strategy of the coach, especially in the area of who plays, the guys loyal to the interim coaches, not necessarily the institution
school two – the guys who just want to see the uh win, who call it as they see it, who call for changes when they believe change is appropriate, the guys who are loyal to the institution, not the people who come and go or the interim occupants of the coaching positions
if you are unfortunate enough to be in school of thought number two, of which some of us are, then inyoface and johhny will be all over you the moment you say anything they believe questions or challenges norm’s strategy or decisions.
interesting…
ok, back to billables…
johnny, what are you, a 1L? haven’t heard that term in a long time…last time i heard that was when i overheard 1Ls talking torts…
yep, IT. that’s exactly it. You’re always right. Of course. I hope this makes you feel good about yourself. You’re so intelligent. Way better than any of us. You make so much sense and EVERYONE thinks you’re a stand up guy and a great candidate for HC whenever chow leaves. The people that don’t just “putt from the rough” (lol who says that anyway??).
Now get back to your billables. chop chop.
131… Hey perfect example of someone who takes things out of context because its not what you wanna read..
But I apologize I didn’t agree with you that Graham will have easier time making reads at Reeser Stadium in a loud environment…. My fault…
Hey, IT, can you provide an update of your choice for Chow’s replacement? Still on the bandwagon for Manti’s dad?
Is that what they call playing with yourself these days……billables?
Is Reeser known for being loud? I honestly don’t remember it being that loud in 2008.
Am I missing something?
Did I forget to give out gold stars to people who say the same thing over and over and over and over again?
And then over and over and over?
Do people need hugs?
Should I ask Taylor Graham to take a break from school work and football practice to call and offer a mea culpa?
We all saw the game. We all noticed the same things.
But why do I get the feeling that some people want “three claps” because they think they saw something nobody else did?
Oh, I know why. Because they say the same thing over and over again.
I know this because, they even say stuff like: “As I said before …”
(By the way, since I know everybody’s identities i also see how a few post differently here than on players’ Facebook pages.)
Hey, this place used to be fun. I used to enjoy reading some posts. Now there are a few loudmouths ruining the party. And, if you notice, they’re scaring away all the female readers.
So, I don’t want to discourage people from venting. But do it once. Twice, if you have ADD and can’t control yourself. And after that, you know, talk about food or wish somebody a happy birthday or go out and throw a football around.
As Robert DeNiro said to Ben Stiller in “Meet the Parents”: It’s just a game, Focker.
Jeezy and Independent Thinker-
You see when I sit here reading words from man I see his face thru his words. I see his eyes thru his words. Now does it matter if he believes the coaching staff is inept or if everyone that despises him if always wrong and creats misaligned logic to discredit his detractors?
Don’t be a fool.
He wants respect.
He wants love.
He wants to be younger.
He wants to be attractive.
There is no such thing as sports debates, don’t ever think there is. There is only sex. Everything is sex. You understand that what I’m telling you is a universal truth?
Thank you ST! amen
RedZone,
What did Coach Beeman talk about? Her new assistant? Is she hoping that Anae will influence family to consider UH? One year too late for that, looks like Anae has 3 relatives on Utah’s roster.
ST: Toucher’!
Wait,….That was you right ST?
Yes ST, thank you. It needed to be said.
Yes, some people do have ADD. But others just crave attention.
I think it is the latter that come to this board, but unfortunately, they don’t have anything new to add. The same-oh, same-oh.
Coach Beeman has said that Anae’s Hawaii connection is a small part of why she brought her in. She called it a bonus. Beeman was more impressed with Wendy’s experience and knowledge. She also liked that Wendy had experience as a head coach and what she did at BYU. She thinks that coach Anae fits well with her program and is a good person. The kind of person she wants around her players. The kind of person who will be a good role model for her players. I am very happy with the hire.
Indy are you saying every thing is either black or white? Wish things were so simple.
Chow has a plan in mind. A five year plan which happens to be the lenght of his contract. I know the blog host admonished posters from repeating themselves but….as I said before if Chow is around to see his first class of freshmen graduate I feel we’ll have stable, winning program.
Many/most fans don’t like his Rome wasn’t built in a day approach they want to WIN NOW.
He’s conservative, he believes in character, discipline, loyalty and hard work. He demands this of his players and coaches. In fact he believes his coaches should work twice as hard as the players, using himself as an example. Price isn’t around because he couldn’t adhere to all of Chows beliefs.
Player by player, recruiting class by recruiting class he’s getting closer to his goal. He knows how to coach but he’s smart enough to know he still has a lot to learning about head coaching. He wants the program to built on a strong philoshophical principles that will linger on after he leaves. He’s been around long enough to have seen many down programs rise with the presence of a messiah type coach and fall with his departure for greener pastures.
Chow is a local boy. He knows how uplifting a winning football program is to the State. He wants to build a program that will be his legacy. A program “Hawaiians” of all races here or away can take pride in. A program with tradition that can be passed along to the next guy without skipping a beat.
Thanks RedZone.
ST said it best: this place used to be fun. I used to enjoy reading some posts. Now there are a few loudmouths ruining the party.
122 – derek
gib arnold has been here long enough. he’s delusional. he still believes gerry blakes and ronnie stevens are coming to play for hawaii. imagine what his record would be had miah not played basketball. he needs to win the conference or leave.
Well, the defense is playing at darn near Top 10 level or close to it. And not to be argumentative, why will it or should it take 5 years to see a good offense? Sorry, but I just can’t buy into that line of thinking. Not asking for a national championship; just a competitive team that we can cheer for and feel good going home from the stadium.
most coaches are given three years to show that they have the chops for the job. they’re rarely fired after a season+1 game or go into panic mode and bench a qb after one bad game, because you know. process vs outcome oriented. so you’re right. it’s about goal setting: long term vision, setting measurable, realistic, and achievable goals to reach that vision. those of you that played college sports (or sports as a junior at a high level) or are familiar with or are actually coaches will probably understand this. it’s the process and the progression of the team and the players that’s the focus, and then the wins will take care of themselves. setbacks happen, miscalculations happen. people play better or worse than expected, but the process plays out, and then you look at whether or not the program is where it should be (especially at the win/loss column). if it’s not, then yeah, fire somebody, move in a different direction. if it is, then keep moving forward.
the programs that usually go off the wall nuts and overreact and fire fire fire, bench this player for dropping a pass, switch qbs after one bad game, omg MUST WIN NOW! quick, change offenses midseason! (at all levels, even NFL), usually are not successful ones.
Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal:
Don’t know if we can afford three years. Team has to show real promise by the end of this season. It’s just the way it is. Nothing against Chow, but the Athletic Department has to stop the bleeding and regain consumer confidence, ASAP.
From OregonState.scout.com
read the rest of the article here: http://oregonstate.scout.com/2/1322625.html
I appreciate ST’s willingness to try to intervene in a board that is becoming dysfunctional. I hope it works but I am not optimistic. The feedback to the disruptive ones has been consistent. Sometimes in jest….sometimes with sincerity…..sometimes in anger. But the impact seems to be minimal and the same behavior continues. I don’t think the individuals are aware of the toxic effect of their behavior. When the feedback is given it simply feeds and amplifies the pathological behavior……it will probably continue. Sad….I have enjoyed this blog over the years.
Two years into a five year contract, HI cannot afford to buy out Chow. So he will be here for at least two more years.
NotNasti:
Depends on how Chow fares. Like Mack, if he does poorly enough, his buyout may be negotiable.
After all, he’s getting less than 1/2 what Mack was getting.
MIH: well, yeah. as a consumer of UH football, I would expect a lot of improvement from last season to the end of this season. Actually, just the first game to the end of the season alone. I’d like to see a hawaii bowl berth by season 3. If there’s no improvement at the end of the season, then something’s up.
Hey ST, good post #130, about the over and over and over stuff.
I like it here, but I’ve try not to post because I’m too negative for even my own liking.
It is just a game, but hey, losing is one thing, but losing as we do, predictable plays and boring and …..
Wake me up when Chow is gone.
Love the effort in practice today!!
Pound the Rock!!!!
Hawaii 26 Beavers 20
Imua warriors!!!
As Poly Mom said, Happy New Year to all.
Shalom.
Maranatha.
#140
AWESOME!!! U da man ST!!
Warrior for life!!
The 3 most dreaded words for a Quarterback in the 21st century. “pure pocket passer.”
#123, IT,
I have to debate your comment where you said that USC did not care if UH scored the last TD. It that were true, why didn’t USC kill the clock on their last drive?
They didn’t have to score but need to score to make it 30-5. I bet you Kiffen was fuming inside when UH scored the last TD and 2-point conversion. The final score doesn’t look good to USC supporters and boosters.
Warrior Dave: he’s probably gonna say that you “putt from the rough.”
#140 ST,
Rock on!!! So happy you have spoken.
#179,
Ha-ha I remember that comment. Have a good evening.
181 Warrior Dave: You too, buddy.
Is the UH football practice open or closed?
Howzit, Gang!
Just wanted to say, “howzit”.
I always feel that we should never rush those that are healing. Let them heal 100%, while we search for (temporary) replacements… giving real playing time to others who may even surprise us.
A couple of former Army buddies live minutes from the OSU stadium, and are starting some chatter about this week’s game. Would love to see them eat crow.
Let’s go, Warriors! I believe… kool aid or no kool aid! Let’s get it done, boyz!
ST – #140 – here here! (Or is it hear hear?) Thank you. Even some of the old instigators hardly post anymore, like homey, kifi, Stretch, …
#157. Not saying it’ll take 5 years for the offense to come around. I feel Chow will improve the program in increments year by year. We should be better this year than last and better next season than this. And so on.
So far in recruiting Chow has shown he can keep some of the best local boys home. Hopefully his next two recruiting classes can he shore up the O line and the TEs. We really need depth and true competion in those two areas.
I see the glass as half full and the waiter on his way to refill it. Ome see the glass as half empty or empty all together.
This is the opinion of a retire arm chair QB.
Whatever happened to football, family, fun, and food? I miss posts from Gigi, Garret, JessieJames, Chawancut, Jason, Koakane, Whitey, Duffy, LizKauai and the rest of the original gang. It used to be a place where “everybody knows your name” and people had fun supporting our Warriors. The frustration of many, including the blog host is palpable. I can’t imagine how the football players, their family, and staff feel when they read such negative comments about them. It’s just plain vitriolic. Stephen, you have control over the climate of your blog. True, people have the right to vent and express their negative opinions, but you seem to have lost a lot of the good and positive people that use to be the core and made this blog site a fun place to show support for our Warriors. Lifetime friends were made because of this blog. Time to modify and get rid of those stinking it up.
Very true Hoohiki those post from “the originals” were always welcomed I do like the enthusiasm of the New people to but we all gotta remember at the end of the day we all BLEED GREEN 🙂
Go Bows
Very true Hoohiki those post from “the originals” were always welcomed I do like the enthusiasm of the New people to but we all gotta remember at the end of the day we all BLEED GREEN 🙂
Go Bows
Love the new segment on Norm Chow Inside Access
Tsai’s Matters lol
People just gotta stop staying at the Holiday Inn Express before they “express” themselves here.
Did anyone else see that beaver stinking up the house on DD tonight?
We don need no steekin’ beavers!
Happy happy happy!
I feel you man at least don’t just hang on the negative coming from the game their was many positive things that happened in the game.
Howzit Hoohiki! Nice to see you posting again! Yep, definitely miss the old days. At least we still have the real-life Tsaiko get-togethers. 😀
I’m lurking…. 🙂
Hi jm2375! So good to see a familiar name. SteveM and Markazulu too! Obviously I still hang around, even with the negative comments. I like Stephen Tsai’s reporting and updates on the Warriors, not to mention his witty comments. And once in a while I spot a familiar name like yours and say it’ll be ok, but man, lately the blog has been taken over by a few who claim to be fans, but are such haters.
talk about the old timers…it used to be a lot of fun in the wee hours of the night. however, the passing of two of our brethren has left a void no doubt.
r.i.p. “las vegas” and “longtime uh fan”
Can’t say I was that thrilled about Chow’s hire but reading all the haters in Reardon’s comments is really disappointing.
http://democratherald.com/sports/beavers-sports/football/osu-football-notebook-beavers-turn-page-to-hawaii/article_1065bdc3-bc09-53d9-bdc4-95ef9748b68f.html
http://www.fresnobee.com/2013/09/04/3478214/hawaii-0-1-at-oregon-state-0-1.html