Four and more

Set for interviews Sunday are Oregon State defensive coordinator Mark Banker, Baylor associate head coach Brian Norwood and Texas assistant head coach Duane Akina.

Offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter of the Jacksonville Jaguars also has an interview scheduled, although it is not known whether it will be in-person or through electronic communications. (Think Skype.)

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Meanwhile, it’s a big recruiting weekend for the Warriors. Three prospects begin official visits tonight.

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Like the application process, the poll is on-going. Here are picks through last night:

airsumo — George Rush

Al_KiQaida — Kevin Gilbride

Ala Wai — Nick Rolovich

Anklebiters — Mark Banker

Ballpicker — Nick Rolovich

Bleed Green and White — Nick Rolovich

BowWar — Mike Cavanaugh

Bryson — Rich Miano

Chee Hoo — Rich Miano

Couch Potato — Mike McCarthy

Da Keed — Nick Rolovich

Derek — Rich Miano

Dennis Halloran — George Rush

dozo bozo — Norm Chow

Glenn — Pat Hill

Ipu Man — George Rush

I Wonder Why They Hate Me — Norm Chow

Jkiones — Duane Akina

JonJ — Rich Miano

J-Dog — Rich Miano

KelenguenBinadu — Duane Akina

Liz Kauai — Nick Rolovich

LK — Rich Miano

Madeinhawaii — George Rush

MattyBoy — Chris Petersen

Maui Warrior — Mike Cavanaugh

Mcb — Rich Miano

Mikey — Norm Chow

Musashi — Kalani Sitake

Niho Mano — Rich Miano

Old School Dave — Norm Chow

PolyMom — Norm Chow

Pomai — Rich Miano

RB — Norm Chow

Red Zone — Duane Akina

Shoko — Nick Saban

Slenzi — Rich Miano

SteveM — Jerry Glanville

Steve Paschal — Rich Miano

Taylor — Rich Miano

Tyaiea — Norm Chow

WarriorNY — Duane Akina

WWF — Rich Miano

3 Prong — Rich Miano

808 Bowler — George Rush


  1. HawaiiMongoose December 16, 2011 6:27 am


  2. HawaiiMongoose December 16, 2011 6:28 am

    ST, hasn’t Norm Chow already interviewed? That’s the rumor anyhow.

  3. Wes'side Warrior December 16, 2011 6:32 am

    Three? Wow! Howzit, everyone!

  4. Da Punchbowl Kid December 16, 2011 6:36 am


  5. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 6:37 am

    Chow has applied. Nobody knows if or when he’s interviewing. He’s under the radar.

  6. Da Punchbowl Kid December 16, 2011 6:38 am

    And I read the post! 🙂

    #2 -The taciturn one plays cards close to chest. (That would be Tsai, not Chow.)

  7. MattyBoy December 16, 2011 6:44 am


    In all seriousness, do you believe any of these candidates can establish a winning program at Hawaii?

  8. MattyBoy December 16, 2011 6:45 am

    I’m just hearing a lot of bad things about these candidates with talks of how this program is going downhill.

  9. el burro sabio December 16, 2011 6:45 am

    Banker looks confused in the picture with ST’s article.

    Not thrilled by any of the announced interviewees. Who can recruit Hawaii for Hawaii, and who can best manage a game?

  10. whitey December 16, 2011 6:46 am

    good morning tsaikos. these are 3 more excellent recruits and will be a merry christmas if we can get all three.

  11. Da Punchbowl Kid December 16, 2011 6:47 am

    From Mr Tsai’s article regarding applicants in today’s SA:

    “A fourth applicant reportedly has been contacted, but he has requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of his job situation.”

    Things that make you go hmmmm…

  12. whitey December 16, 2011 6:48 am

    the committee is doing a very good job and my best to them as they continue the search.

  13. whitey December 16, 2011 6:49 am

    morning dpk. how’s the weather in honolulu???

  14. krump1_AKA_protector December 16, 2011 6:50 am


    If you’re still listing votes for HC, please put me down for Coach Miano. I want any HC that would let Coach Rolo stay on as OC, plus even take the wraps / restraints off of him (TE, 2 RBs, whatever). I would say Rolo, but I feel he needs to have 100% focus on OC and OC only. I know people will cite JJ did both, but I feel JJ let discipline and a lot of other things fall by the wayside. Makes me ill that there are so many people so ‘gung ho’ about Chow when he’s done “jack” at UCLA. He had success at USC (with their talent of course) and people may credit him with development of some “name” QBs at BYU, but I think the QBs themselves had something to do with that. Akina’s D at Texas has been humiliated time and time again in the last 2 years and you want this guy to bring that here? If we can be assured he’ll bring in Texas-level recruits, then fine. Banker also is an underachiever and his Defense gets crushed by the bettewr Offenses. What will he bring here? With many of these other candidates, they would replace Rolo. That would be uncincionable. Rolo is already better than Chow, and Nick is not even as good as he will be one or two years from now, if allowed. Don’t want him to prove it at another school !

  15. krump1_AKA_protector December 16, 2011 6:53 am

    on # 14

    “uncincionable” is supposed to be “unconscionable”. Typo.

  16. Da Punchbowl Kid December 16, 2011 6:55 am

    #13 –

    And a good morning to you, whitey-san! Looks like a beautiful day here.

  17. kama krab December 16, 2011 6:57 am

    Howzit Everybody,

    So Hawaiian #437 from last entry,

    First of all that’s your choice not to send your child to the school I coach at but just to let you know, that we send alot of our kids to top notch D-1 programs year in and year out. So your choice.

    Secondly, you kind of just pissed me off with your little sly comment to start your post off. Though I disagree with people, never to I call anyone names. If you want to hide behind your computer and start throwing around BS like that than that’s your problem. I don’t have that problem cause for most of the school year I am either coaching football a prominent private school or coaching baseball at another prominent private school. So if there is any donkey around it’s you.

    Now go back under your rug and hide cause I don’t got time for washup’s like you who live in your former glory. And by the way, you should stick to coaching Pop Warner cause our comprehension ain’t to good.

  18. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 7:00 am

    No word yet on whether Miano has received an interview invitation.

    He should.

    At the least, that’s just good manners.

  19. LizKauai (iPad) December 16, 2011 7:02 am

    Wrlcome recruits!

    Entertainment purposes is part of the problem…

    Well, at least for me.

    Kids first… Health, excellence, lokahi and aloha, graduation…

    Happy Aloha Friday!


  20. Bugaz December 16, 2011 7:11 am

    Too slow! Miano is here, should have been interviewed a while ago dont ya think

  21. bigislandkurt December 16, 2011 7:13 am

    XBOW — Are you the same person you were in 84-85? Probably not. That applies to Akina also. Your claim is from your walk-on experience from nearly 30 years ago.


  22. Bugaz December 16, 2011 7:17 am

    Any of the three recruits top local talent? Wasn’t the all mighty Lee suppose to do wonders in this department? I would have jumped on the Miano bandwagon if they reported getting those guys to stay home.

  23. VonAppen December 16, 2011 7:17 am

    Don’t understand why Chow wants to be under the radar…it’s not a problem for Kyle Whittingham

    Utah coach Kyle Whittingham said it wasn’t a distraction having both coordinators up for the same job.

    “We’ve been through it before so it’s nothing new,” he said. “As long as you deal with it and communicate, it’s not a distraction as long as everyone is on the same page.”

    While some might see Chow’s age as a negative, Whittingham didn’t.

    “He has a lot to offer, no doubt about that,” he said.

    As for Sitake, Whittingham called him a ‘bright football coach.’

    “He doesn’t have a great deal of experience, but sometimes experience is overrated,” he said. “He is intelligent and you have to look at the body of work and he has done a great job.”

    Whittingham wasn’t concerned the situation could be a distraction for the team and said he has come to expect similar situations this time of year.

    “We’re all professions and you have to separate the two,” he said of job interviews and bowl preparations. “You can’t compromise your preparation or your recruiting but when you have opportunities you have to take a look at those as well.”

  24. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 7:19 am

    Al: 2000 (from previous blog)

    I went to a convention in 2000 and missed two days of training camp.

    I have good attendance.

    Hey, I once wrote while I was having a heart attack. I finished the story, then drove myself to the hospital. Later, the boss tried to ask me questions about my story. I was like, “I’m a little busy right now.”

    After I had my heart procedure, I was hurting so much I had to sleep on the floor. But I only missed a week of work. On the flight to the final four, I stood most of the time because I was sore.

    All of which is to say: I really don’t remember much about Banker in 1995.

  25. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 7:23 am

    Re: Visits.

    Tuioti has been working on some recruits for a year.

    If you don’t bring ’em in, then you have to wait two weeks because of the dead period.

    I think there are only three recruiting weekends in January.

    Also, there’s sort of an honor code that you don’t a coach doesn’t try to recruit players committed to School A after accepting a job at School B.

  26. jkjones December 16, 2011 7:30 am

    This committee takes more time than a Macy shopper looking for a bargain. In the land of entitlement-mindsets it’s difficult to determine what exactly they are looking to vet.

    Akina, Banker, Koetter and Miano?


    Where is the skill in assembly, creativity and success?

    What a tragic harbinger to unfold.

    Nothing has changed.

  27. Derek December 16, 2011 7:30 am

    Saving best for last. Because Miano lives here he’ll interview last. He’s busy with recruiting now. Next week is the “dead” period so he will be available then. That’s just my opinion. Anybody that recruited Colt and Kealoha is o.k. In my book.

    4 star lineman J. Poutasi from Vegas is visiting this weekend. He’s big. He’s has Utah, Washington, and Hawaii in his top 3. Hawaii is his 5th and last recruiting visit. That’s a good sign.

  28. Pomai December 16, 2011 7:31 am

    Search committee is doing the interviews leads me to think “Why isn’t JD doing the interviews if he is the one hiring?” I know from personal experience that if I am hiring I want to interview them, all of them.

  29. Bugaz December 16, 2011 7:32 am

    I understand that the NFL scouts will find you if you are good enough and no matter where you are. I think it’s a pride thing when four and five star guys chose big name schools. Also, playing with the best day in and day out keeps you striving to get better.

  30. Derek December 16, 2011 7:37 am

    It would be good to get commitments from 2 Jeremiahs. Jeremiah Poutasi and Jeremiah Andrade out of Leilehua. Andrade is one of the best WR. Would be a good slot too. If not scholie, preferred walk-on.

  31. Abunai December 16, 2011 7:37 am

    So whose the other two that’s visiting?

  32. Bugaz December 16, 2011 7:38 am

    New coach needs talent and kid may want to change his mind. For me honor code out da window! Nah just contact and propose an offer. No need push, that is where you stepping on honor code

  33. Bugaz December 16, 2011 7:41 am

    Maybe if some Utah asst gets hired on here, then Poutasi commits to the Warriors

  34. Bugaz December 16, 2011 7:42 am

    Go get coach Tuioti

  35. Wes'side Warrior December 16, 2011 7:42 am

    Campaigning for your favorites is fine, but I hope you guys aren’t setting up the new coach for failure. Meaning, if he isn’t the coach of *your* choice, I hope we won’t hear the negative stuff come flying from day one… and then just waiting to pounce any/every time *something* happens. Just saying… since the level of cynicism has risen to unprecedented heights lately.

  36. Dan-O December 16, 2011 7:43 am

    Committee makes recommendation…..JD pulls the trigger.

  37. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 7:43 am

    UH made the full press on the Kahuku linebacker. I think he’ll commit if the current staff is in place, but he wants to see how the situation goes.

  38. RedZone December 16, 2011 7:43 am

    ST will JD be at the interviews?

    If we could put them all together it put be one hell of a coaching staff.

  39. oldie December 16, 2011 7:44 am

    Okay, I’ll go with Norm Chow, as long as he keeps Rolo as his OC.

    It will give Rolo a chance to broaden his offensive skills beyond the R&S. When Chow is ready to retire, Rolo will be in a position to take over.

  40. Bugaz December 16, 2011 7:45 am

    During dead period, coaches still can contact recruits just not face to face right?

  41. Old School Dave December 16, 2011 7:45 am

    The bottom line is this: Are you satisfied with what you saw on the field this season (and in the 2010 Hawaii Bowl)? Namely, the lack of execution, predictable play calling, defensive adjustment (or lack of it), poor tackling, defensive secondary play, poor run blocking, time management, the lack of hustle & urgency on the field at crucial times, etc. Yes, UH lost some key players to graduation and injuries, but so do a lot of other college teams, which is why you give reps in practice to develop you backups. All it takes is one of two plays until your number is called.

    Again, it’s not an attack on the character of the current coaching staff. They all seem like nice guys. It all comes down to performance and Wins and Losses.

    People also need to be reminded that June Jones only had one winning season as a HC in the NFL. Coming from the Chargers I think his record was 3-10.

  42. RedZone December 16, 2011 7:47 am

    And if he should apply change mine to Rolo.

  43. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 7:47 am

    As I understand it, the president and BOR will be in the loop. I have no idea what that means. I also have no idea who is calling the shots. There are a lot of characters involved in this story.

  44. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 7:48 am


    I think it’s like prison. You get your one phone call.

  45. Bugaz December 16, 2011 7:49 am

    35 what you mean there is already people griping of the different coaches! They not waiting for the hire and looking for reasons to criticize. They doing it already!!!

  46. Old School Dave December 16, 2011 7:52 am

    #35 – Westside: Good post. I agree that we need to support the new HC. I’m worried that if a particular candidate doesn’t get the job, is there going to be a backlash against the program from that person’s supporters? People wanting the new HC to not succeed.

  47. Bugaz December 16, 2011 7:53 am

    Always nice news hearing about Kahuku boys wanting to be Warriors. LB pipeline…be nice for some linemen too

  48. Slugger December 16, 2011 7:55 am

    Good morning, gang!

  49. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 7:57 am

    I’m still amazed by Sam Hurd’s arrest.

    A thousand pounds of weed? That’s a bad case of glaucoma.

  50. Auwe December 16, 2011 7:57 am

    Leave it to the Prez and BOR and they’ll mess it up. Search committee is full of poop! Unqualified business wannabes trying to spread their wings.

    JD should just pull the trigger as it’s his neck that’s on the line.

  51. Bugaz December 16, 2011 8:00 am

    I think we are but a few, and talking stink here doesn’t pose much of a problem with coaches. Maybe a more interesting question might be…if another coach gets picked as head coach, will Miano be all in to support the next guy? Or will there be a conflict?

  52. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 8:01 am

    JJ was very good on home visits. But after the accident, most of the meetings were in his office.

    Mack did a lot of home visits.

    But you know a prospect is big time when four UH coaches make a home visit. Kahuku LB must be big time.

  53. Wes'side Warrior December 16, 2011 8:01 am

    Yeah, Bugaz, that’s what I mean.

    Also, on 4*+ recruits… On the other hand, I wonder if the “you’re ranked higher than those already on the team at your position, so you may have a higher chance of seeing playing time immediately” angle is used? I mean, I can understand wanting to save a redshirt year, but if the kid works hard enough to prove himself worthy as a starter, (and yes, that also means KNOWING the playbook and being up to weight/speed etc.), I hope we’re putting our best out there. Being able to bring in more multi-star athletes may also mean more (big play game-time) exposure for those kids, if they live up to potential on and off the field/court/etc.

    One big factor of getting offensive guys early playing time was always limited to how quickly they can grasp our RnS playbook. Fine to keep talking about we had injuries and the rest of college football had injuries too, but they were able to jump right in and be productive, while it seemed we didn’t have kids trained up yet. But, how many D1teams run our RnS system, where the QB and Receivers HAVE to make decisions at the line of scrimmage on every play, and further make decisions based on how the defense reacts once the ball is snapped, AND be on the same page? Most offensive plays are drawn up to run a certain way. Simple to know your right slot is going 3 yards up and slanting in. Not as simple to call the play and try to decipher it as it’s developing.

  54. Abunai December 16, 2011 8:01 am

    ST? I don’t know if you can say but if you can. Who is the LB from kahuku? And who is the other two recruits that is coming in for visits.

  55. Bugaz December 16, 2011 8:03 am

    I get plenty weeds in my yard! Guess that’s why I no more glaucoma. Hoping I no get arrested. My neighbors already give da stink eye

  56. jm2375 December 16, 2011 8:04 am

    Good morning Tsaikos! Happy Aloha Friday.

    Let’s be civil toward each other. No name calling please. Many long-time posters have been driven away by the tone of some of the new (and old) posters. Let’s get this blog back to the way it was a couple of years ago.

  57. Wes'side Warrior December 16, 2011 8:05 am

    Just don’t smoke “Doberman”! That stuff will mess up the brain, according to Cheech and Chong.

  58. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 8:05 am

    For all who argue that sports isn’t important to a school, try to recall the last time the Regents, president and several prominent business leaders were involved in the hiring of a department head.

  59. Wes'side Warrior December 16, 2011 8:05 am

    Hear, hear, JM!!!

  60. Wes'side Warrior December 16, 2011 8:06 am

    Haha, true, ST!

  61. Bugaz December 16, 2011 8:09 am

    Hoping he is committed in school too. Wonder if he will go on a mission and want to transfer to BYou

  62. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 8:11 am

    Whoa, back the train up, buddy.

    A guy hasn’t even committed, and there’s chit-chat about him transferring in a couple of years?

    Ane people wonder why I don’t post all of the recruits’ names.

  63. Bugaz December 16, 2011 8:12 am

    If I had a say we would have our coach already and be on our way to another BCS Bowl

  64. Bugaz December 16, 2011 8:13 am

    But would probably never get there though just kidding of course

  65. mikey December 16, 2011 8:17 am

    27 Derek: 4 star linemen J. Poutasi is visiting Warriors today.

    More reason to bring Chow as HC, since Jeremiah’s school of Interest list Utah as High interest. And since Jeremiah will be here for the weekend, why not bring Chow to the table too? Would be a great catch indeed.

  66. Bugaz December 16, 2011 8:17 am

    Ok sorry if I offended! Just chit chatting due to a recent loss whom I and a lot of people here were expecting good things from. No disrespect to the young lad meanted. Just conversation

  67. A-joe December 16, 2011 8:17 am

    PolyMom- Let’s stick to the point. You’ve publicly accused several SEC teams along with other southern programs of blatantly and openly practicing Polynesian Profiling. You’ve backed your claims by stating you have proof on a media day a fan asked a coach why there weren’t Poly players on the team. The coach responded at the podium with an answer that was not true.

    Now, you may think everyone on this blog will glaze such statements. Not me. I take these kinds of accusations personally and very seriously. This goes against the very core of my beliefs. I’m not one to sit back watch people walk all over my heritage in any capacity. I also have dear friends and family that live in these states that will face the burden of these accusations.

    These actions are appalling and disrespectful to anyone! No one should be treated this way!

    My nephew was recruited and played for Tennessee. He made All SEC and went on to the NFL. These accusations spits in his face and his accomplishments! He and Jonathan Mapu are proof Poly’s can play and succeed in the SEC.

    But worst of all, if all this is a flat out trump up lie, you’ve not only embarrassed yourself, your husband, your kids, parents, relatives, close friends but you’ve shamed the people of Hawai’i and Polynesia by falsely accusing a group of people purely based on sterotype! That’s the very ignorant dumbass thinking we’re trying to stop here!!

    But I know you’re not lying. I know you can present me two years worth of evidence, today. I know you can produce me a detailed itemized three year strategic investigative plan; complete with exit strategies for different scenarios that may arise. I know you can show me a list of witnesses interviewed so far with possible ones scheduled. Pictures, links, article clippings, notes… everything.

    We’re all adults here. We’re not in grade school anymore. No need for any excuses to drum up your homework. Either you have it or you don’t. (I trust you’ve backed everything up to an external hard drive or Cloud service)

    Think very long and hard about what you have to say. The ramifications are paramount! This is not fun and games. If you scream, “FIRE!!” in my theater, I better see fricken FLAMES!! I don’t need a speech later about “the virtues of a fire safety” or the “what if there was a fire” to cover up a lie.

  68. Auwe December 16, 2011 8:18 am

    Didn’t Gary Anderson Utah St. coach go straight to Kahuku from the airport and offer the LB a schollie. Now that’s recruiting! Didn’t even bother to check into his hotel with his team.

  69. Bugaz December 16, 2011 8:21 am

    Is Chow the answer though? And what happens you hire Chow and Poutasi still commits to Utah? Hopefully as stated before, he has real interest in becoming a Warrior

  70. krump1_AKA_protector December 16, 2011 8:22 am

    I think Banker’s statements are ridiculous. His goal is to “win”? Are all the other candidates hell bent on losing? He wants the Offense to be “entertaining”. Has UH’s Offense been boring in the last decade or so? The Offense sputtered this year because of numerous injuries and inconsistent protection by the O-Line. Once the O-Line gets stabilized, the Offense will be just as potent as it ever was. Even more so if Rolo is allowed to do “his thing” without restraints or interference. Rolo is already better than Chow, IMHO. With Chow’s arrogance, he will not let Rolo stay as OC. I would guess if he allowed Rolo to stay, it would be as QB coach only. Stop the Chow Express; UH will really de-rail if he comes here. UH will go backward. Do we really want to shoot for UCLA’s level of “success”?

  71. da keed December 16, 2011 8:25 am

    Yes, maybe da JC coach Rush might be good. If Hawaii can win da junior college championship, at least we can put da bannah up in da Sheriff Centah.

  72. jkjones December 16, 2011 8:25 am

    Tim Tebow draws more criticism in the NFL from the lame-wing media for displaying his belief in Christianity.

    Sam Hurd? Guns, drugs, women and nightclub brawling? minor stuff.

  73. PolyMom December 16, 2011 8:27 am

    Can’t say much more. But look at rosters on that side of America. Like I said earlier acclimating to being so far away makes players homesick, ect. Most kids from here go to the West Coast for comfort. Just talked to a Dad who had a kid in Utah…and could not make it. One problem we as parents make is not teaching our kids when they are young to be open to expand their territories and explore their opportunities. Thus being said..maybe these Coaches have their point due to not wasting their scholarships. One AD in the South told me they would love a Poly…that would not get homesick and would acclimate to distance. More yo come.

    To the poster who put Nick Saban.,,hey if that is the case I want Urban Meyer then!

  74. mauiwarrior December 16, 2011 8:30 am

    how come nobody talking about Lumpkin for head coach?………………….JK

  75. oneseason December 16, 2011 8:33 am

    my pick — Ivin Jasper

    12 Years @ Navy, OC @ Navy, Niumatalolo endorsement to JD, QB & SB ex @ UH

  76. RedZone December 16, 2011 8:33 am

    I am hoping we will be able to build a connection to and bring a player like this one.

  77. Ben A Lurker December 16, 2011 8:34 am

    the accountant in me…

    a couple more picks than ST posted from new posts and myself

    Coach Picks 12/16

    Miano 16

    Chow 7

    Rolovich 5

    Rush 5

    Akina 4

    Cavanaugh 2

    Banker 1

    Gilbride 1

    Glanville 1

    Hill 1

    McCarthy 1

    Petersen 1

    Saban 1

    Sitake 1

  78. A-joe December 16, 2011 8:34 am


    Now, you’re drifting away from your initial statement. You’re giving me hypothetical scenarios when in fact, you clearly stated you have actual proof!

    Who is this AD from the south! I’ll call him right now!

    Who is this Dad in Utah you just talked to. Let me talk with him!

    Now you’re “speculating” coaches points of view? Where’s the actual factual evidence you claimed to have!

  79. A-joe December 16, 2011 8:38 am

    Look at their roster? WHAT? Is this your evidence to accuse an entire region of Polynesian profiling?

  80. masatoshi-san December 16, 2011 8:41 am

    my pick: Rich Miano.

  81. da keed December 16, 2011 8:43 am

    Wow. Change is hard. Da public still would rather have Miano. We must have all went trow Mack undah da bus, and blame Mack foa all our problems. Da head coach is no good, but his associate head coach is good? All da problems dat us went have dees pass few years was only da head coaches fault? Whoah, I scratch my head at dat one. Yeah I scratch my head, it’s itchy.

  82. Really? December 16, 2011 8:43 am

    #14 Norm Chow


    Began NCAA career in 1973

    Coached 8 of the top 14 passing efficiency QBs in NCAA history

    13 of the top 30 single season passing yardage leaders in NCAA history

    Coached Jim McMahon, Steve Young, Phillip Rivers

    HEISMAN WINNERS— Ty Detmer, Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart,






    Nick Rolovich

    Born in 1979

    Coached Qbs at San Francisco CC

    Coached Qbs at University of Hawaii

    Named OC at University of Hawaii 2010

    Juco All-American twice as player, played in World League and Arena League, Won JUCO National Title as player at San Francisco CC

    Masters Degree

    Now I love home cooking and it’s neat to see how much support Rolo has here but Norm Chow has more time walking out of tunnels onto the playing field as a big time NCAA coach than Rolo has time on earth. Rolo has a good future, Norm is a hall of fame caliber assistant coach. There is no comparison at this point in their careers. Let’s be real.

  83. azwarrior22 December 16, 2011 8:44 am

    Hey ST –

    I read your post yesterday about Prof Mak. I had him too. I’m still undecided about my pick but Miano’s interview by local tv last week or so went well. May the powers choose the best person that can recruit well, fill up the seats, and bring us back to the BCS 🙂

  84. Really? December 16, 2011 8:46 am

    And Krump, what exact “RESTRICTIONS” were put on Rolo as an offensive coordinator. Enlighten us…………

  85. jkjones December 16, 2011 8:48 am

    after the MAC episode, both in terms of contract and vetting, fans should be cynical of the selection process, membership and selectees. Arent these committee members essentially the “fruits from the same spoiled tree”. The problem at UHAD appears to be symptomatic.

    Didnt Kobayashi engineer MAC’s airtight contract? The only valid member of note is Rockne Freitas. He is in the community of intercollegiate athletics, has a long reach, connects to the power brokers locally and is part of the UH administration.

    I’d rather hear the doubters than the sugar coating. It didnt work with MAC and it certainly wont work in the selection process. These people should be held to high standards and their selection criteria scrutinized. So far, there has been little transparency by Jim Donovan other than stating obvious transactional activities. Fans want to know what Donovan is pursuing. What are his keys to selection?

    Fans have little to do with selection. They represent the consumer base and as paying customers and tax paying citizens have every right to ask questions or grouse bc of lack of information. Just sayin’ and this is not directed at any one comment herein.

  86. masatoshi-san December 16, 2011 8:48 am

    I never blamed Mac for the losing season. I actually was for retaining Mac. Injuries killed us this year, as well as youth at key positions and a porous o-line. I think we have the talent to be great and the coaching under Mac was good enough to lead Hawaii to a WAC conference championship last year so…

  87. A-joe December 16, 2011 8:49 am

    Now it’s Polynesians and their families fault for not teaching their kids to broaden their horizons? I guess you’re saying no athlete from anywhere has ever gotten homesick and left to go back home. Only Poly kids face this challenge, disproportionally.

    We need to stick to the point. Who is this coach you claimed made an ignorant statement about Poly kids. He needs to set straight ASAP before he continues his tirade!

  88. Derek December 16, 2011 8:51 am

    The key for Mr. Poutasi is not Chow, it’s DL coach Tony Tuioti. I believe in Tony to close the deal. He’s probably the one who has been recruiting Poutasi for over a year and is the one who is closest to him. That fact we are in the top 3 speaks volumes, even if we don’t get him. Sooner or later we will get our fair share when enough seeds are planted. Coach Tuioti is a good one.

    The recruit that I think will really help us is John Ursua, WR from the state of Utah. He lived on the Big Island for awhile before family moved. He’s also a QB. This young man is a playmaker deluxe. Watch his highlight film. You will be impressed. Hawaii has offered but he’s considering Utah and BYU as well. I guess he’s still thinking about it. Hope he will visit in Janurary if not this weekend.

  89. mikey December 16, 2011 8:52 am

    We could make a stipulation that any new HC appointed will have to retain Rolo as our OC as a future HC for the Warriors. He is still young and has a lot to learn from the New HC.

    I’m hoping it is Chow time. Really?

  90. Pomai December 16, 2011 8:52 am

    A-joe Ho brah deep breaths Hawaiian, watch da blood pressure. I wen warn you Polymom you wen wind up da buggah.

  91. turfwar December 16, 2011 8:55 am

    Abunai #54 — Pretty sure it’s Bennetton Fonua 6’1″ 220 LB/DE. Kid is athletic, strong, has a motor, and can run all day. Played both standing up as a OLB and as a DE in a three point stance. Will make a great pass rusher someday.

  92. dozo bozo December 16, 2011 8:57 am

    14. He had success at USC (with their talent of course) and people may credit him with development of some “name” QBs at BYU, but I think the QBs themselves had something to do with that.

    Need to respectfully disagree with this. I will give you USC having unparalleled access to the cream of the crop. But skill and talent is one thing. It still has to be developed. Else why the need to have coaches?

    Chow’s time at UCLA was not productive because he deferred to Neuheisel. Rick was set on running the pistol. They also had injury problems starting back in 2008 where both Olson and Cowan went down and JC transfer Kevin Craft ended up starting. This is sort of akin to when Greg Alexander went down, and his backup Rausch, was still out with his thumb injury, forcing Bryant Moniz to take over. It took awhile for him to be productive.

    I have a hard time downplaying his accomplishments at BYU in being able to develop QB’s like McMahon, Young, Bosco, Detmer, and Sarkisian. Need to give credit where it is due and Chow has shown an acumen for just that. That is why after carefully thinking about it, I warmed up to him being one of the candidates. He does bring some hard to ignore assets to the table where those intangible trumps his age. My real want was Sarkisian but since he isn’t going anywhere, his mentor is really the next best thing. And if you look it up, Sark has some good things to say about Chow. Someone like Rolovich would learn a lot from Chow, which would prime him for the future.

  93. Really? December 16, 2011 8:57 am

    #85 Awesome post

    There should be no faith is this so-called process. It just shows how many people the AD has to make feel important to keep his job here in Hawaii. Folks pay the AD to hire and fire coaches, among a million other things. This process is just typical nonsense to make people feel important. They should all get the heck out of the way and let our AD make his decisions.

    Herman Fraizer was crucified (for good reason) for the way he handled June Jones. Well, so far since him, we’ve overpaid for a homophobic, stuttering coach who couldn’t make his own personal Bowl Game in the weakest conference in the country and now this is where Donavon can really shine and put his rubber stamp! Or with all of his “ADVISORS” can he? Is he really pulling the trigger or being told by someone else? We will soon find out.

  94. Old School Dave December 16, 2011 9:03 am

    Need to retain Rolo? I like him. He’s young and needs to build up his coaching resume. Maybe at a place like ASU or some other BCS school. He does have a bright future.

    I remember when Fred von Appen was fired and the UH AD “encouraged” the new coach to retain Tom Williams. Williams, left the islands for a job at Washington, but fired off some parting shots at UH. Said something about the “real story” will come out someday about what happened at UH, but I never heard anything after that.

  95. Buffoman December 16, 2011 9:04 am

    Is Vince Manuwai on the mend and does he have a shot of continuing his career? He is such a terrific representative from the 808 and it would be ashame if he was all pau.

    If it’s going to be an “experienced” assistant coach who is being touted to fill the vacancy, I’d have to say that Chow would probably be the one that should be given a hard look. He has coast to coast experience and true he has had some down years as OC but if he has been in a position to control how the offense functions and did produce winners, he has organizational skills and could bring that to the table.

    If it was a less seasoned assistant, I believe we lost our chance with that young man from Baylor going to that small college as HC. He would have been a good young one.

    I am in agreement that of all assistants we keep Tuioti. He is a keeper and if Coach Cal continues to have a great relationship and respect locally with coaches, he should stay to keep that connection.

  96. Pride. December 16, 2011 9:04 am

    Wow, what a great day. Reading the blog today is more fun than going to the movies. Great to read, see, and hear the pasion of the Warrior’s fans.

  97. masatoshi-san December 16, 2011 9:05 am

    I mean Mac had his issues but to go from leading his team to a conference championship to basically getting forced out only a year later after barely missing the post season with a 6-7 record in a season filled with injuries at key positions. I think they canned him prematurely.

  98. Really? December 16, 2011 9:07 am

    Why in the heck is Kobayashi involved in this process? Didn’t he write up the stupid contract that put UH in a hostage situation with Mack? Just handed him the cash, with little to no performance clauses, and all of this for a guy who had NEVER been a head coach? So what happens here, he helps pick the new head coach and then gets a nice percentage chunk writing up his contract again? He’s already been proven to be a non ally of the taxpayers and the University with the last contract. Somebody help me see the light here. Same as it ever was……..

  99. wowlaulau December 16, 2011 9:09 am

    Wow this blog has turned into whiner central ……

  100. Capitolist/WassupDoc December 16, 2011 9:09 am

    Will postpone the Stadium Authority meeting report until there’s interest expressed here on the blog to read it.

    A quick observation: The meeting’s format and procedures have significantly opened up in a variety of ways.

    That’s why I URGE all of you who have serious complaints about the Stadium’s policies & procedures to make arrangements to attend its next meeting on Thursday, January 26, at 10 am.

    There will also be a public comment meeting not yet scheduled on Stadium Adminiostrative Rules and Fees coming up. Will post that information here. That meeting will be scheduled at 6 pm and not as part of its regular monthly meeting.

    Off to work – have two reports due by 3 pm.

  101. mikey December 16, 2011 9:11 am

    Thanks, Ben

    And their off coming around the turn heading with Miano in the lead and Chow few lengths behind with Rolo and Rush not far behind. Annnnnnd HEEEERE comes AKINA in a late start coming on fast…..

    Who will hit the finish in line? Stay tune don’t turn that dial.

  102. Buffoman December 16, 2011 9:11 am


    They (UH) learned, they want this guy on their side and not across the table again. “Keep your friends close, keep your enemies (not to say he is that but in negotiations there are two sides and he technically “won” the last time as we all seem to agree) closer”.

  103. AlaWai December 16, 2011 9:12 am

    Whoever is selected as HC cannot be handcuffed with retention conditions for assistants. Anything less would undermine him and send a bad message for the future. If things do not go well under his regime, he would have the excuse of being “forced” into a poor situation. The new HC must stand on his own and be totally accountable.

  104. Really? December 16, 2011 9:14 am

    #94 Great Post!

    A few of our loved local boy coaches have never coached anywhere but here. You want a resume in college football. Go to the mainland and make it there and then come back. Let’s see Miano go to the Pack-12, run his Speed and Quickness non profit year round, have his secondarys perform like they do here every year (very so-so) recruit poorly (lives on walk-ons) and see how many decades he lasts at one of those schools. Let’s see Rolo head to the mainland and coach some big time offenses and QBs and then call him head coaching material. Not being harsh, just reminding everyone that a few of these guys have had the advantage of getting favorite son treatment here in Hawaii, and that they really don’t have much to show for it. And now we want to name of these guys head coach? Their bodies of work are very poor for a position like this. That’s reality.

  105. jkjones December 16, 2011 9:14 am

    if UHAD’s selection process is fraught with shibai, what can fans expect from its outcome?

    This is the way business is handled in the entitlement state. Yup, im a cynic, and if more fans questioned the union-network, we might get different results….and, in that folks, Im optimistic.

  106. A-joe December 16, 2011 9:15 am

    Pomai- anybody here screams injustice, I’ll listen. I’ll give any Tsaiko the benefit of the doubt and cover their back. If somehow it involves me, I’ll look into it further. If later I find it’s trumped up lies or skewed distorted facts, uuuuuuhhhh.. then we have a problem…

  107. urbankid December 16, 2011 9:18 am

    Is the Kahuku recruit Benny Fonua?

  108. koakane December 16, 2011 9:18 am


    day 5 and 2 moa to go

  109. urbankid December 16, 2011 9:19 am

    sorry #91 I didnt see your post, but I guess if we both think its him, then it is him

  110. kev-1 December 16, 2011 9:19 am

    With the candidates said to have been invited for interviews, it is becoming apparent to me that we are about to say goodbye to the run and shoot. When JJ left, it was clear that the offense would remain, even before they announced Mack as the coach. The continuity approach was made very clear from the get go. Now, with the candidates that have emreged as front runners, there is no connection to the rns, what so ever. That means no more rolo, etc.

    That bums me out a lot.

  111. kev-1 December 16, 2011 9:20 am

    Say what you will about coaches, but you have to admit that UH’s offense has kept us relevant year in and year out.

  112. Derek December 16, 2011 9:21 am

    DT Willie Henry visited on Dec. 3. He’s a big, big guy from Ohio. Hope we can land him as we need DTs badly. The best part is that he’s a freshman. Seems like we’ve had some good luck with Ohio guys like Turner and Edwards. Sean Draper, CB is hopefully considering us. I can’t recall if we’ve ever had a Willie in the program. Good time for one.

  113. jkjones December 16, 2011 9:25 am

    The consensus of fans want Rolo to remain and most agree he has something to offer the football program….down the road HC maybe in his future, he still needs grooming. As a former player he possesses the loyalty base and sweat equity WAGS spoke about. Best wishes to Rolo.

  114. Old Diver December 16, 2011 9:26 am

    I thought I read that the JUCO coach was invited to apply by the committee. While I am not in favor of him, if he was invited to apply it would be bad manners not to interview him. I don’t believe the committee is filled with people of bad manners so I think the interview process has a way to go.

  115. Derek December 16, 2011 9:26 am

    And I hope Ben Mamea and Tigi Hill is we able to join the program soon. He would help. Justin Vele and Brendan Daley will be v. good linebackers for us in my opinion. Looking for big things from Beau Yap this coming year in his sophomore year. Kody Afusia should be the heir apparent at center. I hope Blake Muir will be in the mix at tackle or guard. Can he play TE? Maybe Darius Bright would be a good TE with his size, and speed. Can he block?

  116. tommui December 16, 2011 9:26 am


    I have no problems with the Committee (other than I am not one of them).

    They are bright and have experience in looking over applicants – whether in their particular field of endeavor or in general. Coaching is not just “x” and “o”.

    Whether you like it or not, the name of the game in Hawaii is “consensus” and not take it or leave it. While I always like the idea of “benevolent dictatorship”, that’s not the Hawaiian way. So you got to live with President Greenwood (or whoever takes over the reigns up at Upper Campus); you got to keep the Regents happy or at least rebellious but not mutineous; you have to keep big bucks happy and so forth.

    JD knows this as a fact of life and has to act accordingly.

  117. dozo bozo December 16, 2011 9:26 am

    #97, that is the harsh realities of this business which college football is. Not even the biggest and best names are immune from the criticism or the axe. In UH’s case, the attendance drop this season was too difficult to ignore. It is natural for those higher up to extrapolate its effect on season ticket renewals. But considering there was that non-disparagement clause that UH and McMackin agreed to, the administration probably knew of some things the general public is not privy to and figured enough was enough.

    When UCLA AD Dan Guerrero brought back Neuheisel, the premise was the former great UCLA quarterback would right the wrong and bring back the glory. That didn’t happen because it isn’t that simple. 4 years later and they had to fire him due to the pressure. Sort of like when Donovan let Bob Nash go. Storied Fabulous Five player, NBA veteran, nice over all guy, dedicated to UH, was hamstrung recruiting wise due to his late hire, etc. It’s also why some former great athletes don’t like to take the helm at their alma mater. When things go sour, it can taint their legacy.

    As the saying goes, winning cures a lot of ills.

  118. Pride. December 16, 2011 9:28 am

    Just curious, why isn’t Rolo ready now?

  119. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 9:32 am


    All this recruiting talk …. gotta see if they can qualify first.. GPA and Algebra II + SAT and ACT.. and as for playing time as a freshman, gotta see if they can keep up with the faster pace of school work, too.

  120. Old Diver December 16, 2011 9:35 am

    University of Southern California. Isn’t that the school whose defense was shredded by out offense last year? Just think that was done by our 0,1,2,and 3 star recruits against their 4 and 5 star recruits. Lesson learned is they don’t do things any different on the mainland than here. Time to put away the local inferiority complex.

  121. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 9:36 am

    Rolo may be as ready as Miano. I mean, sure Miano has the years here, BUT he has never lead the defense as OC for a season. Has he even sat up in the booth for a season? Rolo, at least, has led the Offense. Aranda, the defense.

  122. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 9:37 am

    What if it boiled down to a choice of keeping Rolo or Miano. Which would you choose?

  123. Kevin December 16, 2011 9:40 am


    Kind of answered your own question there yeah?

  124. Will-I-Am December 16, 2011 9:41 am

    Can they do the contract with a base pay of $X00,000 and a bonus of $X0,000 for every win?

    Example: base salary $500,000 + $30,000 per win

    If UH goes 10-3 the coach gets $800,000.

    Do any schools have that? I know they have contracts for winning seasons and getting to a bowl. But does any school do paid per win?

  125. Ipu Man December 16, 2011 9:43 am

    As for our local high school studs who want to leave the island

    for greener pastures, good for them. That’s part of growing up.

    But it works both ways. Bet kids on the mainland would love to

    “surf” in Hawaii. Heck, bet even the big boys (and girls) from

    the Bahamas and other islands would find Hawaii an intriguing


  126. Couch potato December 16, 2011 9:44 am

    perused a few east coast football team rosters and guess what. not many poly’s either. so what am i to conclude?


  127. Ipu Man December 16, 2011 9:46 am

    Who recruited Joey Iosefa?


  128. Couch potato December 16, 2011 9:48 am

    not sure but don’t you have to budget for base pay + max bonus? what if uh no mo $$$ to pay for bonuses?

  129. Pride. December 16, 2011 9:49 am

    #126 – East coast bias? They don’t like Polynesians? Haha.

  130. Pride. December 16, 2011 9:51 am

    #129 – Yeah, I wonder how that Polamalu jersey is selling?

  131. robo13 December 16, 2011 9:52 am

    #14 Norm Chow experience trumps

    all commers.He has seen every thing thrown at a team

    Im sure their aint anything he has not seen.

    Love Rolo but does he have a Phd too.

  132. Pride. December 16, 2011 9:53 am

    A-Joe. May your nephew Jesse Mahelona rest in peace. Great success strory.

  133. jkjones December 16, 2011 9:59 am

    Some people confuse consensus navigating with administrative decision making.

    Elected officials respond to public consensus and appointed officials, like Jim Donovan, are required to perform according to contractural job description. The UHAD is vetted to make decisions which include, but is not limited to, hiring coaches. Who vetted these committee members to make hiring decisions based on coaching assests and abilities that fit our program, mission and goals? Let me guess…the union entitlement infrastructure that is invisibly weaved into UHAD.

    UHAD, like other State agencies and intra-departments are required to be accountable and transparent. The current set-up circumvents this public mandate. Bottomline, fans want the next selectee to be successful. It would be pretentiously stupid to say otherwise.

    More importantly, if by divine circumstance, the selectee fails, who does the public point to blame. There needs to be accountability in the process. We are talking about PUBLIC FUNDS.

  134. rb December 16, 2011 9:59 am

    Ron Lee for OC

  135. A-TEAM December 16, 2011 9:59 am

    Check this kid on Tim Robinson (#11). Vicious at LB a dozer at RB. Same HS as Kody Afusia. Excellent baseball player. Teammate a walk on @ UH (Blake Hitchcock). Consider him a sleeper.

  136. Couch potato December 16, 2011 10:01 am

    wonder how head & shoulders is doing in the pennsylvania area?

  137. dozo bozo December 16, 2011 10:03 am

    #118, I brought up Neuheisel and UCLA in #117 as an illustration. Former QB at UCLA who took them to the 1984 Rose Bowl where they beat Illinois. A couple of his key touchdown passes were caught by Karl Dorrell who went on to be one of UCLA’s greatest wide receivers. Spent 1986-1993 as an assistant coach at UCLA, 1994 as the offensive coordinator at Colorado, before assuming the head job in 1995. Later went to Washington but due various issues including a gambling scandal, was fired after he refused to resign. He left the college football scene for a few years before the UCLA opportunity came up.

    Someone like him had years of experience, yet he couldn’t bring UCLA back to where it was. What about the guy he replaced who was also fired? Yet another former UCLA great, Karl Dorrell. Dorrell was an assistant at various schools like UCF, Northern Arizona, Colorado, ASU, and Washington from 1989-2002 before accepting the head coaching job at UCLA.

    Rolovich’s resume isn’t that long by comparison and I kind of have my doubts that McMackin was a great mentor in certain areas as far as priming him to be the head guy. Knowing how things turned out at UCLA, it is not a high percentage level of success. I mean, June Jones had up and down seasons. And I bet this is something Rolovich understands. He learned the hard way by not taking things seriously and got his butt handed to him on a platter when he was initially given the starting QB job. When he changed his approach and became a student and sponge, the difference when he got his second chance, was like night and day. I sort of believe that experience is something he’ll apply in coaching.

  138. 99club December 16, 2011 10:05 am

    My vote for HC: Norm Chow.

  139. Ipu Man December 16, 2011 10:05 am

    A lot of hooplah building up to the Denver Broncos game

    with New England Patriots because of Tim Tebow…

    New England should win by a landslide but I pray Tim

    wins big…because his success would show that Colt Brennan

    would have won games, too, if given a chance.

    God Bless both Tim and Colt.

  140. rico December 16, 2011 10:05 am

    stephen tsai, what kind of defense, offense would banker run if he were selected>?

  141. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 10:05 am

    Maybe JD is going to follow up with a phone interview….

    “Hello?… Hi.. how are you doing today? That’s good.. that’s really good. Glad to hear that. I’m fine, thank you for asking. I’m calling to let you know that we have finalized our decision on the next head coach and I must regrettably inform you you that it is, unfortunately, not you…. but thank you so much for applying or as we say here in Hawaii… Mahalo nui loa… bye …Uh Wait?… Who dis?”


  142. mikey December 16, 2011 10:06 am

    #103 AlaWai : Good point maybe that’s why Mac didn’t succeed

  143. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 10:11 am

    Looking at the poll up there… good thing we Tsaikos aren’t in charge of selecting.. we’d be debating till the end of next season and then some.

  144. MattyBoy December 16, 2011 10:12 am

    I hope and pray that the mystery applicant is Kevin Gilbride. Does anyone else think it could be him?

  145. mikey December 16, 2011 10:12 am

    I don’t think Rolo applied. So as Cal Lee.

    I think only Miano and Lumpkin applied for the HC job

  146. mikey December 16, 2011 10:13 am

    144 I hope so too Very Much!

  147. Will-I-Am December 16, 2011 10:15 am

    #124 & 128-

    UH would have to expect to pay $900,000 in salary. But if they do pay that much at the end of the year that would mean that the team went 10-3 and if you have that kind of year the assumption would be the program is making more money.

    Comes down to if the team wins the coach makes more and the program makes more.

    So nobody else has that kind of contract?

  148. mikey December 16, 2011 10:15 am

    I also hope Giants go to the Post and not Dallas.

    Tho I picked Dallas to win this weekend… Hoping they get upset…

  149. Will-I-Am December 16, 2011 10:17 am

    It would also mean that if the team went 5-5 the coach only gets $650,000. UH pays less.

  150. Will-I-Am December 16, 2011 10:17 am

    Errr, 5-7…

  151. d1shima December 16, 2011 10:18 am

    Great Morning All!

    Take it to the Bank?

  152. Couch potato December 16, 2011 10:20 am

    fresh prince of bel air changed moms and i still liked the show.

    governors change but i still love Hawaii.

    presidents change but i still love my country.

    coaches will change and the WARRIORS will still be my team.

  153. AlaWai December 16, 2011 10:24 am

    Is the search process limited to those that apply? The light bulb may go on in someones mind, and an invite might go out to a young, up and coming OC or DC somewhere.

    All of the applicants , though qualified in their own way, would not bring that fresh young image to the program which would translate to putting peeps in the seats.

    The bottom line here is attendance, whether we win or lose.

    I hope that JD thinks out of the box and finds vision, inspiration and courage in making his selection.

  154. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 10:25 am

    Justiin Bieber for head coach!

  155. PolyMom December 16, 2011 10:28 am

    A Joe I got 75K invested in this project so be patient.

    The kid from Utah is going to walk on with the Warriors. Just to homesick and hates the cold. Geez when I was able to get away to go to college…I was happy to meet new people. Boys are much more immature then girls at that age.

    Regarding Norm Chow my girlie said since his son is one of her teachers and is on her inter mural dodge ball team at Mira Costa…he would love to come home and Coach. His lips are sealed. She has her friends writing to Donovan. She has a nice relationship with the family. And she thinks he is sooo nice to the kids. Thatnis why the local kids like Kai Maiava missed him so much. But let me say this he is no nonsense. If you want to play ball…you better come to practice. But I would be happy with Duane Akina to!

  156. bigislandkurt December 16, 2011 10:34 am

    Here’s the bad part about Poutasi’s free trip.

    He lists UW, Utah and Hawaii as his final three. Yes, we do get the benefit of being his last visit. We have the opportunity to leave him with a lasting impression. Problem is — the other two schools are still in the midst of football activity as they currently prepare for their bowl games. We, on the other hand……..

    I could be wrong. But Poutasi ‘wen scoa on this one. 🙂


  157. Taylor December 16, 2011 10:34 am


    Selena Gomez for defensive coordinator.

  158. bigislandkurt December 16, 2011 10:37 am

    Be Entertaining….especially on offense.

    Words that resonate well for Hawaii fans.

    Banker knows what to say for sure.

    Could it be a cryptic way of saying he would still run some kind of wide open, pass-first offense. And if that is so, wouldn’t Nick Rolovich be one of the leading contenders to help him do that?

    Just sayin…


  159. bigislandkurt December 16, 2011 10:41 am

    Can’t really make a call on the new coach. There are several that I would be good with.

    Tsai, mahalo for the clarification on recruits.


  160. Bleed Green and White December 16, 2011 10:41 am

    Okay, I don’t know about y’all, but now I’m getting really irritated.

    Keeping an eye on all the reports, seems Dirk Koetter, Mark Banker and Duane Akina have all been granted interviews. Really?

    UH officials wanna act all “Big Time” and say stuff like “National Search”, well, they should stop saying non-sense like that if the end result will the same-ole same-ole.

    C’mon man!

    National search and we’re all supposed to get excited over such garbage, really?

    Koetter – didn’t we beat his butt with WAC talent back in 2006. And beat ASU badly!

    Try and google his butt, nothing but UGLINESS, trust me. Not to mention his Jacksonville Jaguars have the WORST passing game in the NFL. Try 91 yards in the air versus the Falcons Thursday night, and 207 yards total offense against a below average defense in the league. STOP IT!

    Banker – let me see, Oregon State ranked #83 in the NCAA in 2011 in total defense, allowing 411 yards per game. Beavers were 3-9 in 2011. Perspective: OSU #83, Tulane was #82, Washington State #81. UH if you’re interested, ranked #67.

    Are we not supposed to be looking for an upgrade?

    Akina – I gotta ask one very simple question, “What have you done for me / us lately?”

    No mention of either Rich Miano and / or Nick Rolovich. C’mon search committee, i really thought y’all were supposed to be the smart people. You wants us as season ticket holders to get excited about U-H football…?

    Then DAMN IT! Give us a reason to be excited.

    If those are the best names you can come up with, then for God’s sake why night interview the two in-house guys, Rolovich and Miano, both former players for U-H, both standouts, people we all know, trust and have aloha for.

    Right now UH search committee, you are NOT giving me a reason to write a check for my ticket renewal! I’m just saying…..

  161. Couch potato December 16, 2011 10:42 am

    lol, i don’t think A-joe can wait another year.

  162. hawaiian December 16, 2011 10:42 am

    Head Coach: MIANO

    Definitely not kama krab…and his friend!

  163. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 16, 2011 10:43 am

    dozo bozo,

    i agree with your statements about Chow. it’s not like he sat around at USC or BYU eating a sandwich and giggling while the offense did whatever the hell they wanted to do. Chances are he actually coached them to be productive.

    His time at UCLA was stupid. In some sense Neuheisel may have done to Chow what Mack may have done to Rolo. But one person seems to get the pass.

    My issue with Chow isn’t his experience or his ability. I would like to know if he has that DRIVE and PASSION to win. Will he work harder than any of his assistants to make sure this program is successful. If he can, I think he is our man. If not, I probably would pass.

    Banker and exciting offense makes me think he would consider retaining Rolo….subliminal?

  164. dozo bozo December 16, 2011 10:45 am

    #103, I agree completely. Any administrator who forces any potential head coach to such terms is likely setting that coach up for failure. That sort of decision has to be left up to the person who is selected.

    And to your #153, UH can reach out and make calls if they choose. Well connected individuals like Miyawaki, Kurisu, and Freitas have probably done that, or at least contacted the coaches agent for feelers. That is what they are there for. To assist Donovan in getting a list of qualified candidates. No one knows if they had any nibbles though. But it has to be fair so the process allows for anyone who meets the MQ’s to submit their application. I realize there is talk about this being all shibai but wasn’t Miyawaki one of the guys who initiated contact with June Jones back in 1998?

  165. Couch potato December 16, 2011 10:46 am

    no matter who the coach, i will renew my season tickets. supporter.

  166. hawaiian December 16, 2011 10:46 am

    Thank You Bleed Green and White! I definitely feel you! I didn’t go to UH but I had my opportunities! Being a local boy, i have lots of love for this program! I may be considering NOT to renew my 4 season tickets next year if certain coaches are hired.

  167. hawaiian December 16, 2011 10:47 am

    In exchange, maybe I will buy 4 Wahine VB tickets instead!

  168. bigislandkurt December 16, 2011 10:50 am

    IMHO, the reason there are not as much Polys on SEC rosters is because they DON’T NEED to go beyond their recruiting grounds for great players. Why do you think there are more Polys on west coast rosters? Because the recruiting grounds for the PAC, WAC, MWC are chock full of Polynesian players. Aside from a few scatterings near major airports or military bases, we know that there are not many notable Polynesian communities that side of the Mississippi. I know there’s a nice size community in Texas, but that’s about it. SEC country — Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, Alabama — got the LOCK down on some of the best African American Players on the planet. They don’t need to look too far for talent. Hence the reason there are not many Polys on the roster. There are exceptions of course. But not many.


  169. bigislandkurt December 16, 2011 10:52 am

    For that same reason, there are not many Polys on Big 10 and ACC rosters either.


  170. Pride. December 16, 2011 10:54 am

    These are the ages of the recently hired new FBS coaches:

    46 – Gus Malzahn

    48 – Rich Rodruiguez

    47 – Todd Graham

    49 – Jim McElwain

    46 – Carl Pasini

    46 – Tim Beckman

    55 – Charlie Weiss

    50 – Charley Molnar

    35 – Justin Fuente

    55 – Bob Davie

    49 – Larrry Fedora

    47 – Urban Meyer

    42 – Hugh Freeze

    47 – Kevin Sumlin

    39 – Matt Campbell

    50 – Curtis Johnson

    38 – Garrick McGee

    50 – Jim L. Mora

    50 – Mike Leach

    Experience and maturity look to be in balance with youthful passion and drive.

  171. AlaWai December 16, 2011 10:55 am

    IWWTHM: I believe that anyone who coaches football has Drive and Passion. The issue it what differentiates one candidate from another. Drive and Passion can be transmitted in a number of ways. Cool and confident may work for someone, while stark raving mad may do it for another. Hopefully we’ll get someone in between.

  172. tommui December 16, 2011 10:55 am


    Supposedly the bloggers are all UH fanatics.

    If we don’t get, say, Joe Paterno, as HC, we will not purchase our season tickets?

    Are we UH supporters or just supporters of Coach (insert a name) and if Coach (insert a name) doesn’t get the job, we no longer will buy tickets or quit out support?

  173. LizKauai (GO WARRIORS!) December 16, 2011 10:57 am

    Whoever they pick as head coach, I hope he will echo the advice of a recent former head coach who advised his incoming freshmen Warriors:

    “If you plan your schedule right, you can graduate in 5 years with a Master’s Degree.”

    Congrats to Jett Jasper and his family who took that advice to heart and will accomplish that lofty goal!

    Mahalo, Ke Akua

  174. AlaWai December 16, 2011 11:00 am

    Aloha Liz: I agree with you totally! That should be number one on priorities of a HC.

  175. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 16, 2011 11:01 am


    That’s true. Even amongst the players, some may benefit from the butt kicking/screaming type while others the calmer more level headed types.

  176. koakane December 16, 2011 11:07 am

    banter between a-joe and poly mom reminds me of a scene from movie “Hunt for Red October” Baldwin asked to speak his mind. He went ballistic in replying to a general. Earl Jones replied “told you to speak but Jesus……Jack”

    luv it just luv it

  177. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 11:08 am


    Unfortunately graduating his players as a number 1 priority doesn’t win him extensions if he has a losing season by one game.

  178. Pride. December 16, 2011 11:08 am

    James Earl Jones.

  179. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 11:08 am

    Shucks no more Husband and Wive’s football clinics, eh?

  180. Pride. December 16, 2011 11:09 am


  181. LizKauai (GO WARRIORS!) December 16, 2011 11:09 am

    While individual head coaches are interesting (or not) to the masses, the bottom line is how well they organize their assistants and their players into a team that plays with love and unity.

    People that play with joy in their hearts are usually more successful than those who are living in fear. And that’s not just on the turf.


  182. Couch potato December 16, 2011 11:09 am

    i can see reasons for not renewing tickets. that is your $$. main thing is to support the players.

  183. Pride. December 16, 2011 11:10 am

    #179 – MIH, I pray for you marriage relationship to improve and prosper. Let me know if you need, our church has couples retreats.

  184. LizKauai (GO WARRIORS!) December 16, 2011 11:11 am

    #180 😆 Deep, man, DEEP… :mrgreen:

  185. Pride. December 16, 2011 11:12 am

    #181 – I don’t know Liz. Fear of getting a size 14 shoe up your ‘okole can be pretty motivating.

  186. Da Punchbowl Kid December 16, 2011 11:12 am

    #116 @9:26 –

    Thank you Judge, for your clarification regarding the comittee. The comittee brings many things to the table, both before and after the hiring is pau, and they need to have representation in this process. Dr. Freitas has tremendous football experience, connections as well as nation wide collegiate and professional clout. We are in good hands between the comittee and JD. Nuff said.

  187. LizKauai (GO WARRIORS!) December 16, 2011 11:13 am

    $$$ wise- even for only 4 home games, non-premium season tickets were economical compared to individual game tix.

    Having cool people sitting around you in the shady side of the 40 yardline in yellow… Priceless!

  188. Couch potato December 16, 2011 11:13 am

    ahhh, jack ryan, played by alec baldwin, harrison ford, and ben affleck. the faces changed but the character remains the same…

  189. AlaWai December 16, 2011 11:16 am

    The HC should inspire players to aspire to the highest level. Each component of football requires a different mind set. OC’s are part genius and part magician. DC’s are planners and risk takers. STC’s are psychopathic hedgers. Great HC’s like Lombardi, Noll, Walsh and Belichick combined all of these and found and trained assistants with similar character. That’s why coaching lineage is always tracked in the profession. I hope with dig deep enough to hire a diamond.

  190. Pride. December 16, 2011 11:16 am

    When Colorado needed a head coach last year, they formed a selection committee made up of administrators and professors. I think our committee is better.

  191. LizKauai (GO WARRIORS!) December 16, 2011 11:16 am

    #185 – With love in the heart of the coach, and trust in the heart of the player, it’s respect, not fear… imho…

    I change my vote… I’d rather see Mike McCarthy…

  192. mikey December 16, 2011 11:16 am

    Going lunch…

    But If we get Chow Now

    I will start my Season Ticket in 2012 for sure.

    Out to Lunch

  193. Couch potato December 16, 2011 11:17 am

    since koakane mentioned hunt for red october. anyone else thought it was funny that a russian has a scottish accent?

  194. al December 16, 2011 11:18 am

    duane akina – 53

    mark banker – 55

    norm chow – 65

    dirk koetter – 52

    miano – 49

    nick rolovich – 32

  195. A-TEAM December 16, 2011 11:19 am

    Will someone please help me understand. First, “The People” complained about Coach Mac and the run him out of town. They complain about speeding up the process of looking for a new HC. Names are brought up on who’s applying. Every name that was brought had skeleton in its closet even the current assistants. Then I see the possible so called final four names and “The People” are still not satisfied. Come on people all of them have fallen down and they have gotten up. Yes a HC knows a lot but he doesn’t know everything. He consults with his assistants,a motivator and keep the players in line.The bottom line is, who ever they bring in the TEAM has to buy in on what he has to offer. Its not like The committee is hiring a baseball coach to coach football. Football is football. Run, block, tackle, score…the warriors know that. They control their own destiny. Adapt and over come. It’s that simple. So my final thoughts are embrace the new HC whoever it may be. Fa’afetai lava mo le avanoa..soifua!

  196. Couch potato December 16, 2011 11:20 am

    hoorah! now get two votes for McCarthy! 😆

  197. al December 16, 2011 11:21 am

    okay…jenny mccarthy.

  198. al December 16, 2011 11:24 am

    195…i beg to differ.

    the people did not run mack out of town. it was the bottom line of the football program first and foremost.

  199. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 16, 2011 11:25 am

    I’d like to see that contract

  200. Couch potato December 16, 2011 11:25 am

    most people die before they see Ke Akua.

    okay al, jenny and mike, still get two. thanks.

  201. al December 16, 2011 11:26 am

    lizk…you gotta make up your mind.

    who you gonna pick?

    you’ve been changing your pick as often as mih.

  202. Will-I-Am December 16, 2011 11:27 am

    #177 – madeinhawaii:

    — “Unfortunately graduating his players as a number 1 priority doesn’t win him extensions if he has a losing season by one game.” —

    I think the part about a losing season is misleading. He had a losing season against the easiest schedule in all of college football.

    I like coach Mack. But I never got the feeling that he gave powerful, motivating speeches to amp up the players to get them ready to kick okole. He just always made me feel like my grandfather was the coach and if I had a bad day he would give me a hug.

  203. al December 16, 2011 11:29 am

    what contract?

  204. al December 16, 2011 11:33 am

    one thing i do tip my cap to mack is for the development of the summer bridge program.

    whether it was his idea or not, he had to endorse it. this will always be his most significant piece of work during his era.

    it is one of those things that made you think, “why was this not done before?”

    hats off mack.

  205. Da Punchbowl Kid December 16, 2011 11:36 am

    My vote for Coach Is: Chowcavakinarolomianogilbridelombardikamehamehajesusandthattonganguy!

    Hire him and we can’t go wrong! 😆

  206. wait a minute December 16, 2011 11:37 am

    al, I disagree. People had their pitchforks and torches ready and just needed an excuse. The team could have been 11-2 and people would have used the point-shaving accusations, a loss in the bowl game, not practicing enough, or any other kind of bad report to want his head to roll. The team’s record this season was just a much better reason than any other.

  207. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 11:38 am

    People wanted a coaching change, so there’s a coaching change.

    If people don’t like the caliber of candidates, they can donate large sums of money to attract more candidates. But I think yesterday’s lesson is a large salary only guarantees that the recipient receives a large salary.

    There is no money. There is no secret Santa. As they say, it is what it is.

  208. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 16, 2011 11:41 am

    Did all the JJ donors move to Dallas?

  209. A-TEAM December 16, 2011 11:41 am

    I wished they would’ve kept him around to finish off his contract and see his recruiting class 2010 grow and see what happens. From I was told this is/was his first complete recuiting


  210. Da Punchbowl Kid December 16, 2011 11:42 am

    #209 –

    Yes. To get away from you. Because they hate you. j/k 😉

  211. MattyBoy December 16, 2011 11:42 am


    We wanted a coaching for the better. Not for the worse.

  212. Darren December 16, 2011 11:45 am

    If I played for candidate so-and-so, or know him personally, then I’d be able to make a definitive opinion one way or another about him. Since it’s a negative for both, then I’d have to do my due diligence reviewing backgrounds, doing reference checks, and then conducting face to face interviews in order to make an educated decision. Thanks for the feedback folks…back to my work on the committee.

  213. wafan December 16, 2011 11:45 am

    You do not always get what you wish for.

  214. MattyBoy December 16, 2011 11:46 am

    Woulda thought that JD and whoever is involved in this whole selection process would find a coach that would take this football program to a new level and establish a winning program. And not just find a coach to stay mediocre to subpar. Come on ST. You gotta know that these candidates aren’t ones who will bring excitement back to the program while having success at winning.

  215. dozo bozo December 16, 2011 11:46 am

    #163, that was my question too. Does Chow have the drive and passion to win? If you look at things objectively and rationally at his body of work, it is hard not to say that he has just been an old grouchy fuddy duddy barking out commands and expecting the athlete to get it and translate that into the ability to win. As a UH fan, just how frustrated were you when BYU owned us for so many years? Who was the key architect behind of all of those frustrations?

    I’ve come to realize that the underlings below the coach are the key to success. Looking at it from that perspective, a number of doubts about Chow melted away. I have to repeat that I myself was not very high on Chow this time around because it looked like a good time to go younger. I was one of those who felt his time had passed.

    I understand why there is hesitation. They are comparing the situation with McMackin being a life long assistant until the UH job as well as age. I’ve come to learn that some of McMackin’s prior accomplishments were on the coattails of the previous coaches recruits. Like when Erickson took over at Miami where McMackin was an assistant, much of their early success was due to Jimmy Johnson’s recruits. Contrast this with that Chow has managed to accomplish. Those accolades are solidly attributable to him.

    Looking at the known candidate list, I took some time to learn more about Chow after he left USC. I watched videos of him in interview situations. I don’t get where some of the remarks about him being arrogant comes from. Hell, what impressed me about Chow was that he refused to blame the QB injuries at UCLA as an excuse for the poor offensive performance. He’s been in this line of business to know that this is part of the game and that it is his job to get those players ready.

    In an interview with him as Utah OC, the interviewer asked him if this was his offense that he was installing at Utah. Chow laughed and said he called it Utah’s offense. What I got out of that was a humbleness as he is downplaying the kudos he normally tends to get by the media. When he turned down the Stanford job, the reason was because they were going to go on the cheap as far as the assistants pay. The more little tidbits that I began putting together, the more I realized that many of us are not seeing the whole Norm Chow. This guy does not seem to be one who toots his own horn. That means you need to dig deeper. He seems to have some exacting standards. People do realize he was the one who would have took over from Lavell Edwards if it weren’t for a racial remark made by a BYU VP who mentioned something about chinamen being lined up to build a new athletic facility. This while Chow was just a few feet away. The VP later admitted he didn’t even know that Chow was Chinese. Which is why Chow left BYU.

    The article about that is here. He also admits back in this interview, that he had aspirations to be a head coach. My take is that he has been very calculated which explains why he has removed himself from consideration in the past or turned down offers. So the more I thought about things, the more I came to realize that UH could possibly be a good fit with the current administration. Under a previous administration, that might not be so. I’m just speculating and opining and going on my own intuition based on the known candidates to this point and throwing it out,

  216. bigislandkurt December 16, 2011 11:46 am

    Chicago’s Hurd == Dumb dumb dumb dumb……and greedy.

    If he is guilty of the crime, it just goes down to show that like the Pardoner’s Tale, Avarice is the root of all evil.

    I guess a 5.1 million dollar contract don’t go as far as it once did. 🙂

    He now joins the ranks of the NFL all-time lolo hall of shame.


  217. Couch potato December 16, 2011 11:47 am

    what looks like a coaching change for the better may not be. you just never know.

  218. bigislandkurt December 16, 2011 11:48 am

    No secret Santa? 🙁

    ahh pau.


  219. gambit_808 December 16, 2011 11:48 am

    and the oregon beav fans are clapping at banker potentially leaving…….

    no one cares about him at OS. he isn’t clutch, and isnt a great defensive mind

  220. gambit_808 December 16, 2011 11:49 am

    occupyUH! investment banker brings BAILOUT needs!

  221. AlaWai December 16, 2011 11:50 am

    ST: “Be careful what you wish for” rings loud and clear. We want, but do not have. Thus far we have acted like the “idiot” doing the same thing repeatedly hoping for a different result. The selection must be a total break from the paradigm of coaching. After all isn’t that how JJ got here?

  222. Couch potato December 16, 2011 11:54 am

    i thought jj was found in a manger.

  223. Kevin December 16, 2011 11:54 am

    Who needs Tom Berg headlines or YouTube clips????


  224. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 11:55 am

    It is true the team had a losing record and there were fears that it would affect ticket sales and the coach’s contract was bloated. But let’s not kid ourselves. The head coach was fired because he gave really bad news conferences. In one-on-one interviews, he was OK, because he had more time to explain his thoughts. And he really did mean well, he cared about his players and his coaches, and he did some good things. But his news conferences and radio shows were not very good. You can’t get rid of a guy for having bad news conferences. But they did. There are a lot of people who can talk their way into jobs and keeping jobs. He wasn’t one of them.

  225. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 11:56 am


    LOL.. I’m with my wife pretty much 24/7… why would we want to go to a retreat? But too bad I didn’t send her to Mrs. McMackin’s football clinic when I had the chance.. shoots!

  226. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 11:58 am

    I figure our 9 years together is at least equivalent to 18 years or more insofar as waking hours are concerned for most other couples.

  227. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 11:59 am


    That’s exactly how I felt about the firing… They still could have negotiated a lower base pay for Mack.. but they chose not to. Now, though, aren’t all their necks on the line? They have to prove that they can do better at the box office.. not just wins.

  228. Couch potato December 16, 2011 12:01 pm

    actually that was mack in drag doing the women’s clinic. i keed, i keed!

  229. AlaWai December 16, 2011 12:02 pm

    Couch: JJ was found in a San Diego program that was not going anywhere. Upper management bungled draft picks, trades and FA pickups. It was not a good situation except for the money. Hawaii offered him many things, foremost was the ability to feed his ego. JJ left a winning legacy and formula to follow, but he left on a perfect wave. Had he stayed would he have been as successful? If he had won the WAC at 10-4 then gone 5-7 would we be calling for his head?

  230. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 12:02 pm

    Ala Wai:

    The point is this is UH’s reality.

    No, UH isn’t going to get a McCarthy or Petersen, or a younger version of them.

    But the candidates are good, experienced coaches.

  231. MattyBoy December 16, 2011 12:03 pm


    Is that really the only candidates that UH and the responsible party can come up with?? If so, that’s pretty lame. What to this whole “nationwide search” for the “best possible” candidate? All talk if you ask me. You would think JD and people responsible would want to have good, well-respected legacy for their tenure, rather than an individual of failure for their time there. People will remember who he chooses as the head coach. People will criticize. His remembrance and legacy will be tarnished. Choose wisely my friend.

  232. MattyBoy December 16, 2011 12:03 pm

    As difficult as it may be, choose wisely.

  233. MattyBoy December 16, 2011 12:05 pm

    The public voiced their opinions. Mack is now gone. JD and staff choose the wrong candidate… get the picture.

  234. Will-I-Am December 16, 2011 12:06 pm

    I disagree with you Tsai:

    “yesterday’s lesson is a large salary only guarantees that the recipient receives a large salary.”

    See post #124, A large salary based partially on wins guarantees that if the coach wins he gets paid big. But also if the coach loses he gets paid less.

    The numbers could even be $200,000 per year with $50,000 per win.

    5 wins = $450,000

    8 wins = $600,000

    10 wins = $700,000

    12 wins = $800,000

    With 12 wins UH is going to fill the stands!

  235. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 12:09 pm

    Maybe what we really need is an OC, DC.. Special Teams Coach… and a silver dollar to replace the HC in order to make decisions in a pinch.

  236. papajoe2 December 16, 2011 12:10 pm

    A problem with giving $x0,000 for each game won, may be that he will do anything for that extra money, including breaking rules to win or lacking dicipline for his “star” players so they could play for him to win.

  237. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 12:10 pm

    Make that three silver dollars … just in case we lose one and spend the other.

  238. Will-I-Am December 16, 2011 12:10 pm

    Another idea: bonuses for 9 wins or more, the following year the coach gets a $10,000 bonus per win. so if he gets 9 wins two years in a row the second year he would get an extra $90,000.

  239. Kevin December 16, 2011 12:12 pm

    Bad movies won’t draw fans to the box office. If the PROMOTION and MARKETING is right, the initial crowd will be great.. Then watch the movie go from #1 in the opening week to #non existant the next.

    DVD sales will SUCK as well when it is released.

    One of my favorite movies of all time is The Shawshank Redemption. The movie got barely any press or promotion when it came out. It didn’t do that well in theaters initially. But it was a QUALITY movie. Word got out more started going to watch it before it left theaters by word of mouth and reviews. DVD sales SKYROCKETED and now the movie is a household name.

    The analogy is obvious here.

    You can’t shine s***.

  240. Kevin December 16, 2011 12:13 pm

    They’ve done very well up there.

    Plenty of people are conviced JD has the final say when for MONTHS it was already speculated control seems to not be his.

    Haven’t seen a patsy since the Kennedy Assination rumors….

  241. Will-I-Am December 16, 2011 12:14 pm


    Coaches always want to win every game. It really comes down to the personal character of the coach.

    I don’t think my theory is to much different than giving the coach a big salary and making him perform. But with my plan if he doesn’t perform he doesn’t get the big bucks.

  242. Kevin December 16, 2011 12:15 pm

    I like Jim Donovan a lot, I respect him a lot.

    I wish he’d be given some damn free range to roam though.

  243. Darren December 16, 2011 12:19 pm

    #225. This whole time, I thought it was because we lost games that we weren’t supposed to lose.

    I thought that if a team consistently overachieves or plays to its maximum potential, then the HC is doing his job. If a team consistently underachieves…well, then it’s the other way around.

  244. AlaWai December 16, 2011 12:20 pm

    Free range may equal chickens, ducks and other foul game. Sorry couldn’t resist. I like and respect JD as well but his job seems to be more difficult than the guvagnome.

  245. whitey December 16, 2011 12:23 pm

    somewhere over the rainbow, the word “trust” is there.

  246. papajoe2 December 16, 2011 12:24 pm

    Being that Hawaii is in the middle of the Pacific, imagine if we got busted for anything related to the football program in recruiting, falsefying transcripts, payments to players, etc., in other words serious offenses, what would happen to our program. Which is why I don’t like the idea of paying the coach per win. I think having a bonus for graduating % (largest bonus), winning a conference championship (2nd largest bonus), or qualifying for a bowl and even winning a bowl game. JMHO

  247. tommui December 16, 2011 12:28 pm

    ST #208

    If people don’t like the caliber of candidates, they can donate large sums of money to attract more candidates.

    I would imagine that the applicants for the head coaching position knows approximately what salary range UH would be paying.

    Some posters are dissatisfied with the applicants that have applied.

    Who are the best possible candidates? McCarthy, Petersen, Meyers, Spurrier or some clone? The best possible candidates that have applied for the position are candidates that know the conditions that they would be facing in Hawaii which includes what their salary would be.

    If the salary range is not what they feel they want or deserve, they are not going to apply for the job. It’s somewhat akin to someone with a Doctorate in Micro-biology, he/she is not going to apply at a McDonalds for minimum wage.

    So what ST says is the fact of life – if you don’t like the caliber of the candidates, better be prepared to donate a hunk of money to get a better candidate. And even a Godiva box of chocolates can have a surprise.

  248. whitey December 16, 2011 12:33 pm

    councillor, i’ll take the box of godiva if you no need it.

  249. expat December 16, 2011 12:37 pm

    Urban Meyer was 37 when he got his first head coaching job. He had put in 15 years as an assistant in various programs mostly coaching wide receivers. He had never been an offensive coordinator or assistant/associate head coach.

    He went 17-6 in two years at Bowling Green, and then 22-2 at Utah. He did okay at Florida too.

    Someone at Bowling Green took a chance on Meyer. Unfortunately Meyer was too ambitious to stay for long at programs like BG and Utah.

    Interestingly enough Chris Peterson is, like Urban Meyer, 47. Chris became OC at Boise State the same year Urban Meyer became a HC. Chris has been at Boise State 10 years though and we know what he has done.

    Rolovich is 32. One thing that I think some fans don’t give him credit for is his playing career. He is not just a run and shoot guy. He has played in a bunch of different offensive schemes during his professional career. I don’t know if he is ready to be a HC, but I do think that he has tremendous potential (as does Tuioti) and I think that both of those guys are committed to Hawaii.

    We need a Chris Peterson rather than an Urban Meyer.

  250. RedZone December 16, 2011 12:39 pm

    Wow I just got a letter in the mail from JD thanking me for donating and supporting UH Athletics. I look foward to the move to the new conferences and hope that we will be a force to be reckoned with.

  251. LizKauai (bonafide) December 16, 2011 12:42 pm

    #198 was not my post… You know I would not have been flip about the Creator.

  252. Warrior Dave December 16, 2011 12:43 pm

    I’ll say it again. JJ will be the next UH HC.

  253. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 12:44 pm

    If we don’t like the candidates, can we get Mack back for at least another year?

  254. Will-I-Am December 16, 2011 12:44 pm


    But when you really get down to it coaches get paid to win. This is just making the salary match the outcome. Not the expectation.

    We all know what can happen when we pay on expectation.

  255. d1shima December 16, 2011 12:45 pm

    Wow! Talk about “all or nothing”

    “The message that I got was you really need to offer $40 million because St. Francis needs to be paid in full. Given that the hospitals are not worth $40 million, it didn’t make sense for anybody. We were basically discouraged from bidding. It’s clearly about money for St. Francis I just don’t know how much money.”

  256. MattyBoy December 16, 2011 12:50 pm

    Warrior Dave,

    Are you being serious? Or are just joking? If serious, why would you assume JJ is coming back? ST clearly said no way is he ever coming back. Don’t know why you would still think its JJ.

  257. LizKauai (bonafide) December 16, 2011 12:52 pm

    #256- another case of money over service to humanity…

  258. d1shima December 16, 2011 12:56 pm

    Yep. Those d4mned Franciscan 1% Sisters!

  259. Ipu Man December 16, 2011 12:58 pm

    To select the best candidate,

    take only two at a time and compare them.

    Sort of like on a teeter-totter.

    So you put Banker on one end and Chow on the other.

    The one with the most experience weight wins…

    Unless Rocky Freitas OSU alum sits behind Banker…

    Shouldn’t he excuse himself from voting on his alma mater candidate?

  260. whitey December 16, 2011 12:59 pm

    d1, have a good day.

  261. whitey December 16, 2011 1:00 pm

    ipu, why no tell him face to face????

  262. bigislandkurt December 16, 2011 1:02 pm

    Really? Mack got fired for giving bad press conferences?

    I though it was because he was a highly-paid head coach of a football team who did not achieve their goals and in the process, did not win as much games as it would have taken to save their head coach.

    Shows you how much I know.


  263. bigislandkurt December 16, 2011 1:06 pm

    Personally, I believe Mack was lucky for not being fired after that Notre Dame F*ggot comment. It brought bad light on to the University and was surely something that should have not come out of the mouth of any person, let alone the mouth of the state’s highest paid and highest profile employee.


  264. tommui December 16, 2011 1:08 pm

    WHITEY #249 – the Maui Wowie is better – the one with the coffee in it!

  265. Wes'side Warrior December 16, 2011 1:09 pm

    Locker room vernacular. He’s not the first HC or other high-ranking person to let slip something that shouldn’t have, and he definitely won’t be the last.

  266. Wes'side Warrior December 16, 2011 1:11 pm

    I don’t have any preferences as to whom our HC will be. I’m sure *The Committee* and JD have much more information than we could possibly dream of or hope for.

  267. Wes'side Warrior December 16, 2011 1:15 pm

    To me, getting all bent out of shape over “mines is bigger than yours” is a futile exercise, aside from leading to “I told you so’s” coming from those overburdened by wisdom when their favorite is finally announced.

    Just gonna sit back and let the process unfold.

    Hope you all have a great Aloha Friday! Hahaha!

  268. whitey December 16, 2011 1:18 pm

    ok councillor, will remember that. have a great aloha friday.

  269. Ipu Man December 16, 2011 1:20 pm

    I support whomever JD hires. Hafto, no choice.

    But it sure would be great if he chooses as someone

    suggested a “diamond” head coach.

  270. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 1:24 pm

    Diamond Head Coach? Diamond Head houses are way out of our price range… How about someone tough enough to squat in Mayor Wright? Bring pride to the “local” community.

  271. 99club December 16, 2011 1:28 pm

    Pride, your #178 and #180 one-two punch just cracked me up. 🙂

  272. jkjones December 16, 2011 1:30 pm

    Without the specific evidential details, Norm Chow should hire a consultant to aid him in structuring his interview with folks at UH. Thqat is the rap. Chow is a native Hawaiian and has a vast array of former Hawaiian ballers in his ohana. They are well known. Chow has never played the maoli card but has hung on tightly to his asian heritage. Therein offers some clue to his personal complexities.

    Norm has credentials and early on he posted results that were undeniably impressive. His tenure at BYU, NCS and USC were sensational with a succession of top rated QBs and short-list Heisman candidates and winners. At NC’s advanced age of 65, the UH application may be his last big chance to get the position that has enigmatically alluded this QB guru during his 38-year coaching career. Chow was named the top college football assistant in 2002 after guiding NC State and nationally heralded QB Philip Rivers to success.

    After a gig in the NFL Chow has been slow to recover his success. His stint at UCLA was marked by controversy and a transition phase that he could never hurdle and his O performed at a level far less than expectations. in HIS FIRST YEAR at Utah, the UTES WERE RANKED 11O IN Total Offense. Hardly impressive and lower than what Hawaii is accustomed.

    Is Chow on a slide in his twilight years? His last two collegiate gigs point in that direction.

    Many question what Chow can bring that we already have in the cupboard. And, that remains the issue.

  273. cocobean December 16, 2011 1:33 pm

    Mack was fired because of the UNLV lost. Demoralized the fan base and likely the team and coaching staff.

    Think of all the possible scenarios if we had won that game.

  274. Kevin December 16, 2011 1:34 pm

    Hard to believe the primary reason McMackin had to “resign” was due to a lack of public speaking skills.

    This is the LAST thing I think any reasonable UH supporter was concerned with as far as top reasons why there was a growing lack of confidence in the head coach.

    I personally stated that my opinion was wrapped around the progress we were looking to make or not make in conjunction with the ability to generate sufficient revenue and attention with all this conference shifting happening.

    August 18, 2010 scared the CRAP out of me. Many MANY sleepless nights and a prolonged inability to focus on everyday matters while worrying about the state of all of UH athletics was the final straw that broke and I knew we had to rely on football MORE THAN EVER to be more than what it is today.

    All riding on wins. That’s it. Many instances starting with the UNLV game, in the eyes of some, were red flags of the future if things stayed the same.

    For the rest of us, concerns and frustrations started in December of 2010 which resulted in a serious loss of momentum and leverage after securing a MWC and BWC invite.

  275. Kevin December 16, 2011 1:40 pm

    Ipu Man:

    December 16th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    I support whomever JD hires. Hafto, no choice.

    I too would support anyone JIM DONVAN hires.

    Too many questions being raised over the past month though as to who’s hiring who.

    I think we’ll never get verbal or written acknowledgement from UH brass as to who eventually made the call, but right now, as it has been with me for months, I don’t think Donovan is being allowed to make the call.

    I personally respect Jim Donovan which is why I BELIEVE in the decisions he makes on his own merit.

    The rest… I dunno what their agenda is or what kind of domino effect they are trying to create.

  276. hapahaoleboy December 16, 2011 1:41 pm

    Ever wonder why Norm Chow hasn’t been a head coach anywhere at this point in his career? If not, you probably should.

  277. Kevin December 16, 2011 1:42 pm

    But I guess as far as my dollars goes, the bottom line wont be effected either way. Already got prepaid 2012 season tickets standing by…

  278. mikey December 16, 2011 1:42 pm


    I second that.

    If this one a Big time High profile football town he should have been gone with the wind.

    Many school have let the coach go for much less than that.

  279. SteveM December 16, 2011 1:49 pm

    I notice I am the only one to favor Jerry Glanville.

    That’s OK, he’s a long shot, a mystery and a splash of color in JJ’s book.

    But looking at all the discussion, I note this:

    Is he a qualified head coach? Yes

    Would he work for UH for, say, $500,000? Maybe. Working on his legacy, not resume.

    Is he “over the hill”? Maybe, but not for basic football. He has drive.

    Can he speak well at news conferences? No doubt.

    Would his hiring attract national attention and ESPN? History has shown so… google “Jerry Glanville”

    Was he a popular head coach? Probably not, but I don’t know. He certainly was colorful.

    Would he keep most of the current coaches? Maybe. I think he’ll keep Rolo and R&S, but modify it.

    Would most of the coaches want to be kept by Jerry? I don’t know. But no grey area.

    Would he kick ass and make changes? No doubt. Bring back the Big Bag.

    Found this 2006 story by Kalani Simpson in the Star-Bulletin. Since the Star-Advertiser are one now, I will cite it. It’s interesting reading and addresses many questions asked about coaching today…

    Anyway, Glanville has me “Thinkin’ Different”.

    Another splash of color in the Coach search.

    He will make attitude and performance changes throughout the program, win with what he has, and set the stage for the next head coach….maybe JJ, so he can say that he got fired and replaced by JJ again. 🙂

  280. lee December 16, 2011 1:50 pm

    I thnk it’s silly to think mac was fired because his interviews were bad. The straw that took him down was his final game with BYU. The lackluster performance in front of 30k fans, against BYU our biggest rival for yrs was the final straw.

  281. Wes'side Warrior December 16, 2011 1:52 pm

    I think the point ST brought up recently also aided in poor perception of the program… that of eons between home games early in the season, on top of the “should’ve won” games. We went 22 days between the home opener and UC Davis, and lost dismally at UNLV in the process. Then, a month’s wait after the UC Davis game until the next home game. No connection with the home fans, on top of losing another at San Jose in that stretch. There was already a bad taste in the mouth before heading into the *tougher* part of the schedule. And then, losing during the final stretch just sealed it.

  282. Ipu Man December 16, 2011 1:56 pm

    Plus the fact that UH and the state are nearly bankrupt

    except the happy folks at Ala Moana shopping center…

  283. LizKauai (bonafide) December 16, 2011 1:57 pm

    Yeah, and too bad we lost so many starters to injuries… no excuses… just gotta be sure the uninvested (right?) fans keep a good taste in their mouths…

  284. Kevin December 16, 2011 2:00 pm

    The 22 days without a home only hurts when you are struggling though, when doing well it only serves as “build up” time in anticipation.

    Plus for the non-season ticket holder, other activities might be discovered during that dead time as well, but again only in times of distress.

    Ultimately apathy resulted from a bad ending to a great 2010 season and no signs of improvement and for the critical fan of Xs and Os, the same questions that arose in 2008 and 2009, remained the same ANSWERED questions in 2011 and the answer was not comforting.

  285. rb December 16, 2011 2:03 pm

    #276 Ever wonder what happen to the head coaches

    that were taken instead Norm Chow?

  286. chopsueyboy December 16, 2011 2:08 pm

    Congrats to Liz Chun & Steve for their newborn baby boy

  287. LizKauai (bonafide) December 16, 2011 2:11 pm

    Yes! Welcome to the world, Jace Uyehara!

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  289. robo13 December 16, 2011 2:13 pm

    GEEZ! Norm Chow age 65 I dont understand why people

    think thats old.How many coaches out their coaching past

    that age.Has anyone read the book THE SWEAT AND CHALK

    In it mentions him on Coaches Football tree Walsh,Coreyal

    Sid Gilman etc….Hire Norm and get after it!!!!!USC is 200

    plus days away!

  290. Kevin December 16, 2011 2:13 pm


    December 16th, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    Congrats to Liz Chun & Steve for their newborn baby boy

    I just spent almost 5 minutes trying to find the “LIKE” icon on this comment. Hit refresh MANY times.

    I’m ready to call it a day already…

  291. mikey December 16, 2011 2:13 pm

    Guess you can blame the bad economy but with 2011 home schedule didn’t help with the attendance either:

    9/3/2011 Colorado Aloha Stadium

    9/24/2011 UC Davis Aloha Stadium

    10/22/2011 New Mexico State Aloha Stadium

    11/5/2011 Utah State Aloha Stadium

    11/19/2011 Fresno State Aloha Stadium

    11/26/2011 Tulane Aloha Stadium

    12/3/2011 BYU Aloha Stadium

    Next year pretty much the same with Lamar and South Alabama at home.

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  293. rb December 16, 2011 2:20 pm

    #289 You mean Blood,sweat and chalk?

    The BYU Passing Game Think Tank

    Holgrhem,Leach,Mumme etc.

  294. Pride. December 16, 2011 2:23 pm

    #279 – There’s a reason why you were the only person who favors hiring Glanville. Most people are aware of his record while the head coach at Portland State. He took over a program where the previous coach had a 57% winning percentage and changed into a program that won 27% of their games. Some locals claimed that he drove that program into the ground, and they are still trying to recover.

  295. 808Bowler December 16, 2011 2:26 pm

    Man what a day. Whew. hows it going????? Coaching search revving upand so is recruiting. one of my favorite time of the year!!!!

  296. oneseason December 16, 2011 2:29 pm

    Hawaii 2011 NCAA ranking stats for the X’s and O’s minded …

    wish Field Goal and Extra Point team rankings were included

    Team Stats

    3-rd Down Conversion Percentage 30

    3-rd Down Conversion Percentage Defense 54

    4-th Down Conversion Percentage 20

    4-th Down Conversion Percentage Defense 83

    Fewest Penalties Per Game 64

    Fewest Yards Penalized Per Game 48

    First Downs Defense 64

    First Downs Offense 31

    Fumbles Lost 110

    Fumbles Recovered 52

    Interceptions Thrown 46

    Kickoff Return Yardage Defense 10

    Kickoff Returns 22

    Net Punting 25

    Passes Intercepted 24

    Passing Defense 86

    Passing Efficiency 61

    Passing Efficiency Defense 83

    Passing Offense 12

    Punt Return Yardage Defense 55

    Punt Returns 53

    Red Zone Defense 56

    Red Zone Offense 57

    Rushing Defense 53

    Rushing Offense 112

    Sacks 16

    Sacks allowed 114

    Scoring Defense 79

    Scoring Offense 37

    Tackles for Loss 62

    Tackles for Loss Allowed 86

    Time of Possession 60

    Total Defense 67

    Total Offense 43

    Turnover Margin 72

    Turnovers Gained 37

    Turnovers Lost 93

    selected Individual Stats

    Field Goals >100

    Punting >100

  297. rb December 16, 2011 2:32 pm



  298. mikey December 16, 2011 2:35 pm

    Coaching Changes For 2012 Season

    Team………….. Out…………………….In

    Akron ………Rob Ianello ……………?

    Arizona …….Mike Stoops ………..(i) Tim Kish

    ……………………………………….Rich Rodriguez

    Arizona State Dennis Erickson ……Todd Graham

    Arkansas State Hugh Freeze …….(i) David Gunn

    ……………………………………….Gus Malzahn

    Colorado State Steve Fairchild …..Jim McElwain

    FAU Howard Schnellenberger …….Carl Pellini

    Fresno State Pat Hill ………………Tim DeRuyter

    Hawaii …….Greg McMackin ……….?

    Houston …..Kevin Sumlin ………….(i) Tony Levine

    Illinois ……..Ron Zook ……………..(i) Vic Koenning

    …………………………………………Tim Beckman

    Kansas ………Turner Gill ……………Charlie Weis

    Memphis …….Larry Porter ………….Justin Fuente

    Massachusetts Kevin Morris …………Charlie Molnar

    Mississippi ……Houston Nutt ………..Hugh Freeze

    New Mexico ….Mike Locksley ……….(i) George Barlow

    ……………………………………………Bob Davie

    North Carolina Butch Davis …………..(i) Everett Withers

    ……………………………………………Larry Fedora

    Ohio State ……(i) Luke Fickell ……….Urban Meyer

    Penn State ……Joe Paterno ………….(i) Tom Bradley

    Pittsburgh ……..Todd Graham ………..(i) Keith Patterson

    Southern ……….Miss Larry Fedora ………?

    Texas A&M …….Mike Sherman ……….(i) Tim DeRuyter

    …………………………………………….Kevin Sumlin (Great catch)

    Toledo ………….Tim Beckman ………..(i) Matt Campbell

    …………………………………………….Matt Campbell

    Tulane …………..Bob Toledo ………….(i) Mark Hutson

    ……………………………………………..Curtis Johnson

    UAB ………………Neil Callaway ………..Garrick McGee

    UCLA …………….Rick Neuheisel ………(i) Mike Johnson

    ……………………………………………..Jim Mora

    Washington State Paul Wulff …………..Mike Leach (another great catch)

    i-Interim head coach


    UMass enters the MAC next year from the FCS.

    North Carolina played the entire 2011 season under (i) Everett Withers.

    Penn State is searching to replace its interim head coach.

  299. hapahaoleboy December 16, 2011 2:36 pm

    #285 – Yeah. They became head coaches. Win or lose as head coach, they had something that made them THE choice to take over a program. When you’re always the bridesmaid and never the bride, maybe marriage isn’t your thing. Chow does not have that “leader” quality. He may be great with QBs and hit or miss with offenses, but that doesn’t make him a great HC candidate. And look at his recent track record as OC. This past season, Utah was 99th in passing & 82nd in rushing, making them 110th in total offense. Really? That’s what will revitalize UH? The Warriors, with all their injuries, were still 33rd in total offense.

  300. mikey December 16, 2011 2:38 pm

    Interesting that Miano wasn’t listed as Interim under Hawaii?

    At this footballpoll coaching changes.

  301. Stretch December 16, 2011 2:39 pm

    Howzit Tsaikos!!

    Interesting to read about people’s preference on who the next head coach should be. Each coach has their pluses and minuses. I will abstain from naming who I think should be the next coach. I would be disappointed if that person is not hired.

    I hope that the selection committee chooses the next head coach with the University of Hawaii and the State of Hawaii in their heart. Nevermind their personal agendas, we need a coach who will represent all of us. BTW, did I ever mention I hate “politics”??

  302. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 2:40 pm

    Mack was gone even before the BYU game.

    Poor final-game showings and his salary were reasons to let him go. But the bottom line is he came across really badly in public speeches, coach’s shows, etc. There were UH officials cringing every time he took the mic. Nobody will ever say it publicly, but his public speaking was his undoing.

  303. Derek December 16, 2011 2:42 pm

    I recommend the following:

    Head Coach – Gene Hackman (The Replacements)

    Defensive Coordinator: Denzel Washington (Remember the Titans)


    1) Kicking Coach – Jill Ireland (Unnecessary Roughness)

    2) Special teams coach – Tom Hanks (Forrest Gump)

    3) Linebackers Coach – Adam Sandler aka Bobby Bouche (Water Boy)

    4) Quarterback Coach – Keanu Reeves aka Shane Falco (The Replacements)

    When are they making a movie about the Boise State Broncos that beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl?

  304. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 2:43 pm

    Mack should have appointed a media spokesperson for the team.

  305. mikey December 16, 2011 2:44 pm

    Here’s an interesting page on Analyzing the coaches changes:


    Out With The Old … Greg McMackin

    … In With The New: JOB STILL OPEN

    Expectations: It takes something a bit quirky and out-of-the-norm to lead Hawaii. It takes a head coach who’s willing to be unconventional, and it takes one who can work with no budget, poor facilities, and can embrace the positives of the situation and the players available while owning one of college football’s best home field advantages. McMackin wasn’t bad, and no one’s expecting BCS appearances on a regular basis, but Hawaii football has to be fun, the offense has to be special, and a bowl game ever year is a must.

  306. Old School Dave December 16, 2011 2:44 pm

    Bill Snyder, Kansas State – Age 72

  307. Heineken December 16, 2011 2:45 pm

    Ill go with Jack Del Rio

  308. mikey December 16, 2011 2:46 pm

    loggin off

    Have a great weekend!

    Go Warriors!

  309. mikey December 16, 2011 2:48 pm

    OH and here’s one more for the road:

  310. KeleguenBinadu December 16, 2011 2:51 pm

    Sad to hear that about Mack. Tomey should have been his media spokesman.

  311. Pride. December 16, 2011 2:54 pm


    December 16th, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    #276 Ever wonder what happen to the head coaches

    that were taken instead Norm Chow?

    Okay I’ll bite.

    Instead of Norm Chow, Hawaii selected Fred VonAppen in 1996. BYU selected Gary Crowton in 2001. Turned down the Kentucky head coaching position in 2003 that went to Rich Brooks. Stanford selected Walt Harris in 2005. Arizona Cardinals selected Ken Whisenhunt in 2007.


    Bob Wagner – 54%

    ***Fred Von Appen – 14%

    June Jones – 65%


    Lavell Edwards – 71%

    ***Gary Crowton – 53%

    Bronco Mendenhall – 73%


    Guy Morriss – 39%

    ***Rich Brooks – 45%

    Joker Phillips – 46%


    Buddy Teevens – 30%

    ***Walt Harris – 26%

    Jim Harbaugh – 58%

    Arizona Cardinals:

    Dennis Green – 33%

    ***Ken Whisenhunt – 50%

    *** – winning percentage of coaches selected instead of Norm Chow.

  312. lee December 16, 2011 2:57 pm

    Stephen, if we were 11-2 or 10-3 do you honestly think Mac would have been let go?

    Mac record yr 1 7-7

    yr 2 6-7

    yr 3 10-4

    yr 4 6-7

    No bowl wins and dwindling attendance.

  313. rb December 16, 2011 2:57 pm

    #300 Didnt Utah totally smash BYU and didnt Utah miss beating USC

    by a field goal and didnt their HC wanted a Down Hill

    run game which produced a 1000 yd rusher and didnt they

    lose their starting Qb in the 3rd game of season and was coming

    back from a last year ending shoulder injury.They just missed

    playing Oregon for the Pac 12 champioship.They did lose to Colorado

    which we beat!

  314. d1shima December 16, 2011 3:00 pm

    No dog in the hunt but it seems to me if the kinds of things that are alleged to have occurred really are based in solid ground then it’s more of an injustice to go Lone Wolf with one’s own resources to bring the evidence to light.

    Bringing down the SEC with $75k of personal funds is really like p*ssing in the wind. Bring what you got forward to a bigger ally like maybe the ACLU and really get the thing moving!

    You owe it to the kids in HS now who may be getting injured as we discuss!

  315. bigislandkurt December 16, 2011 3:01 pm

    Say it ‘aint tso Tsai!

    Sure public speaking is a quality we all admire in a head coach. But had we won 9-11 games this season, Mack and his public speaking shortfalls would have been offered a contract extension.

    So maybe such shortfalls led to his demise, but losing games the way we did sure didn’t help either.


  316. oneseason December 16, 2011 3:05 pm

    We missed a 9 game winning season by a total of 8 points.

  317. hapahaoleboy December 16, 2011 3:06 pm

    Mack could have been an incomprehensible, bumbling stutterer and kept his job if he went better than 8-5.

  318. d1shima December 16, 2011 3:09 pm

    If Hawaii won 10 games this past season, the HC wouldn’t have had to explain anything…

  319. d1shima December 16, 2011 3:12 pm


    First Lamar, now Vanessa.

    What next? His truck? His dog?

  320. FattyMcButterpants December 16, 2011 3:17 pm

    My choices:

    1) Jim Leavitt

    2) Mark Helfrich

    3) Rolo

    4) Anyone but Norm Chow

  321. lee December 16, 2011 3:18 pm


  322. Kevin December 16, 2011 3:21 pm

    In formatted shows like “The Coach Mack Show” he was fine, I thought…

    But who’s gonna forget Mark May laughing at Mack during the halftime interview in 2009 at Ruston??? That sucked…

  323. Kevin December 16, 2011 3:22 pm

    But!!!! I would like to think that had we pulled out a winning season AND the elusive bowl win on national TV this season, Mack’s shortcomings on the mic would have been a non-factor… RIGHT????

  324. Kevin December 16, 2011 3:24 pm


    December 16th, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    Mack could have been an incomprehensible, bumbling stutterer and kept his job if he went better than 8-5.

    Then my choice for HC is Tom Berg.

  325. Kevin December 16, 2011 3:26 pm

    I think what makes this interesting after the fact is that now we’re seeing some kind of confirmation that UH officials have taken notice on one thing some of us thought about but I don’t think many of us suspected that this issue ALONE carried so much weight as ST suggests.

  326. d1shima December 16, 2011 3:28 pm


  327. lee December 16, 2011 3:29 pm

    what about lamar? divorce too?

  328. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 3:30 pm

    If we want a good speaker we should get someone like Denzel Washington…

    No worry … beef curry… he’s played a coach before.

    Oh wait.. he wouldn’t do it for less than 20 mil…

    forget it…

  329. bigislandkurt December 16, 2011 3:31 pm

    lamar — divorce from the Lakers.

    Kobe was apparently p.o’d about this.


  330. d1shima December 16, 2011 3:31 pm

    btw, Pomai is right.

    You got the Hawaiian going…watch out.

    I seen (and heard) him at MVB and BB games; once da buggah latch on, no can shake ’em! 😈

  331. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 3:34 pm

    For a beat writer, he’s easy to deal with. You get longer conversations, so if he gets sidetracked, you can bring back the topic. In other situations, where he has to be more spontaneous, then he was more vulnerable.

  332. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 3:38 pm

    Anybody but Miano. Not because I don’t like Miano, but because, he’s never led the Defense or Offense or Special Teams…nada. As Associate Coach he was the liaison to the NFL and was key in our recruiting efforts, but rarely did he call the shots (at least I don’t remember him doing so)… and as the field marshal on Defense calling in the plays for Aranda, there were too many blank spots, too many 12 men on field errors and such. He is well-spoken, but that alone is not a reason he should be head coach. I want someone who has lead Defense or Offense or Special Teams as an OC/DC or Special Teams coach. Better still someone who has coached on both sides of the field.

  333. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 3:39 pm


  334. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 16, 2011 3:39 pm

    Leavitt built that S. Florida program from make shift offices in trailors and team meetings under a tree. Unfortunate he had to go down the way he did.

  335. RedZone December 16, 2011 3:39 pm

    ST coming up on sports animals.

  336. Ipu Man December 16, 2011 3:40 pm

    In Mac’s defense, it might have been early stages of

    Alzheimers…when he spoke I often thought he might

    have it…but now I don’t remember.

  337. d1shima December 16, 2011 3:44 pm

    Oh, in defense of Mack

    I was tryna think of when the defense nevah remember what it was supposed to do….

  338. Bugaz December 16, 2011 3:47 pm

    Good to hear that a possible interview with Coach Chow went well today.

  339. Bugaz December 16, 2011 3:48 pm

    Sportsbow posted link at SH

  340. Not an Expert December 16, 2011 3:49 pm

    What is the responsbility of the Associate Head Coach? Is he paid more than the OC & DC?

    Is he next in line should the HC suffer an illness or unable to coach due to injury?

  341. d1shima December 16, 2011 3:49 pm

    Cmte: So Mr. Chow, you like be da Coach?

    NC: Yes.

    Cmte: OK. Thanks, we’ll be in touch.

  342. Ipu Man December 16, 2011 3:50 pm

    Sports Animal nixes Tsai on their show as he is

    “under the weather and not answering his phone”…

  343. d1shima December 16, 2011 3:55 pm

    Stephen, please call in soon. Can’t take very much more of Gary and BA… 👿

  344. d1shima December 16, 2011 3:56 pm


    D3 NC game aka Stagg Bowl

    The team in purple is winning. 😆

  345. WWF December 16, 2011 4:02 pm

    #332 MIH, We know your position on Head Coach selection already. No need to continue to beat up Coach Miano, our Interim Head Coach. You are sounding disrespectful to our Interim Head Coach. Nuff already.

    Talk about photography instead.

  346. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 4:02 pm

    I’m working on a story. Can’t be giving away everything for free.

  347. Construction software December 16, 2011 4:03 pm

    Just out of curiosity, what’s your experience in the field like? I searched around the site and couldn’t find a bio or anything. Either way, thanks for the info!

  348. d1shima December 16, 2011 4:03 pm


    Back to audio of the Mt. Union-UWW game. 😉

  349. Ipu Man December 16, 2011 4:04 pm

    Hope Stephen is not operating heavy equipment…

    hope he’z zzzzzzzzzzzz

  350. RedZone December 16, 2011 4:04 pm

    They are still trying to get Tsai. Must be in CIA mode. Maybe ear to the committee door?

  351. Bugaz December 16, 2011 4:06 pm


  352. Ipu Man December 16, 2011 4:06 pm

    Oh! Good, ST you are alive…

  353. shorebreak December 16, 2011 4:07 pm

    Public speaking or the lack of charisma or maybe both; injuries on both side of the ball

    Next head coach must find a way to limit training injuries, otherwise same difference except more far down the hole. Miano seems to be working on building the defense; got to handle those 6 6 68 O tackles in the future for that reason i vote fo him

  354. Bugaz December 16, 2011 4:07 pm

    Anxiously awaiting your story

  355. oldtimer808 December 16, 2011 4:09 pm

    My vote is for Miano.

  356. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 4:09 pm

    I have a bad cough, but I’m otherwise okie and dokie.

  357. Bugaz December 16, 2011 4:11 pm

    Lemon and li hing mui…ok who’s mouth watering

  358. MistahB84 December 16, 2011 4:14 pm

    My pick for head coach is someone who preaches discipline and fundimentals. Not someone who acts like a father figure to his players. We need more disciplined, less mistake proned players. We need to stop calling the same 25 pass plays over and over on offense. The coach should build around on what we have which is 2 highly mobile quarterbacks in David Graves and Stump Godfrey. How about some play action and roll outs or speed read options every now and then along with the run n shoot? Playing run n shoot in the wac for 10 years has made UH predictable to the conference opponents. Its time for some variety on offense. Also the coach should really go hard after the local recruits as a priority and have young players get on the field.

    And on a side note, let’s get rid of the black uniforms, and make a white helmet…keep the green helmets too! Mahalo!

  359. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 4:15 pm

    If UH had implied the possibility of a much higher ceiling (albeit theoretical) than what they paid Mack, would they have attracted more attractive applications?

  360. RedZone December 16, 2011 4:16 pm

    Bob Wagner?????

  361. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 16, 2011 4:17 pm


    that would be funny if in the listing they put $500,000-$4,000,000 commensurate with experience. Lol.

  362. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 4:19 pm

    I’m sorry.. where did I bad mouth Miano? or show disrespect..

  363. Old Diver December 16, 2011 4:19 pm

    My guess is ST is talking about a loss of confidence.

  364. el burro sabio December 16, 2011 4:21 pm

    My choice is Richard Tomey, then Rolo can take over in a few years.

  365. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 4:22 pm


    It seems like everyone knows that UH felt they overpaid Mack and wanted to reduce their costs associated with the Head Coaching salary… Did that affect who did and didn’t apply? Guess we’ll never know.. but it does make me curious as to what the turn out would have been without that stigma.

  366. Pride. December 16, 2011 4:29 pm

    Curious. D1, what kind of offense does Montana run. Didn’t realize that Montana’s head coach Robin Pflugrad was the WR’s coach at Oregon when Chip Kelly served as the OC in 2007 and 2008. I wonder if he runs the same type of uptempo offense.

  367. d1shima December 16, 2011 4:33 pm

    sorry Pride.,

    Watching the close of a close one in Salem, VA

    Not familiar with Montana fb since Jacob Yoro graduated.

  368. Pride. December 16, 2011 4:35 pm

    Would have hoped that we could have targeted guys like Robin Pflugrad, Beau Baldwin, Mark Farley, Willie Fritz, Jay Locey, Craig Bohl. All successful head coaches at the lower football levels.

  369. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 4:35 pm

    At least Norm Chow would probably bring the no huddle offense that many of us were clammoring to see…

  370. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 4:35 pm

    One of the Oregon papers said the job is paying $1.1 million.

    Sadly mistaken.

  371. Pride. December 16, 2011 4:36 pm

    #367 – Whoah, that’s a long time ago. Isn’t he at Pacific U. now in Forest Grove?

  372. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 4:36 pm

    Yoro is friends with my nieces’s boyfriend. Small world.

  373. WWF December 16, 2011 4:36 pm

    #362 MIH, First sentence in your #332.

  374. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 16, 2011 4:37 pm

    One of the positives with that list is that you could get them for really cheap. Maybe $250,000 if even that much. If saving money is just as important as winning.

  375. Pride. December 16, 2011 4:38 pm

    Sorry D1, you watching the DIII championship game. Thought you were watching the FCS championship.

  376. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 4:39 pm

    WWF…ah you’re right, my bad, I stand corrected… I meant to say, any of the ones currently being interviewed… which btw doesn’t include my choice.

  377. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 4:40 pm


    Wonder if any one tried to approach them at all?

  378. d1shima December 16, 2011 4:50 pm

    Your niece’s boyfriend?

    Didn’t take her long to get “settled” in Forest Grove. 😆

  379. d1shima December 16, 2011 4:52 pm


    Yep. He’s the DC. Next season may be their payoff year with a bunch of guys who are all going into their 3rd year together. These 1st two seasons of re-introducing football to Pacific U. has been tough.

  380. d1shima December 16, 2011 4:53 pm

    Looks like Montana using a “catch-up” offense right now. 😆

  381. Will-I-Am December 16, 2011 4:55 pm

    My vote for head coach is Peyton Manning. haaa

  382. d1shima December 16, 2011 4:57 pm

    …uhhh, make that “giveaway” offense. 🙁

  383. Shoko December 16, 2011 5:04 pm

    Montana O-line not too good.

  384. d1shima December 16, 2011 5:07 pm


    According to the announcers, yes, they do try to go uptempo like UofO

  385. homey ℞ December 16, 2011 5:13 pm

    <blockquote>Still not working for me.</blockquote>

    Interesting reading today. *clap clap clap*

    A-joe – Hana hou! *standing applause* 😉

  386. Ipu Man December 16, 2011 5:14 pm

    Whitewater Wisconsin won their division national championship

    for the third year in a row…not too shabby of coaching.

  387. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 5:20 pm


    Besides Mack, are the rest of the staff under some kind of “gag” order regarding McMackin’s retirement? Things just seem to be eerily, and somewhat uncomfortably silent. When Wags got let go, there was quite a bit of noise, not just from the football corner but all the other sports, as well.

  388. d1shima December 16, 2011 5:21 pm

    IpMan (which is an excellent movie. I gotta watch Pt 2 yet)

    DIII is a different animal. UW-W has an enrollment of about 9k while most DIII schools are around 2000 or less. They have about 200+ players on their roster with a full-blown JV program. There are no roster restrictions or scholarship issues to deal with in DIII

    Heard the announcers mention that Leipold has to “make do” with very little. They pay in a 13000 seat stadium with concrete bleachers on only one sideline. If they blew that out to 4 sides, it would be a DI facility.

    Whitewater made a commitment to win at that level and is accomplishing that.

  389. d1shima December 16, 2011 5:23 pm

    Here come the Griz

  390. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 5:27 pm

    BTW, anybody got a clue as to what school might be trying to woo Rolo away?

  391. d1shima December 16, 2011 5:28 pm


  392. Capitolist/WassupDoc December 16, 2011 5:32 pm

    Okay – I’ll bite. Who’s Liz Chun?

  393. d1shima December 16, 2011 5:34 pm

    Host of the Coach Mack Show thru 1010. KGMB Sports Anchor thru 2009(?)

    Sideline speed demon thru 2005(?)

  394. homey ℞ December 16, 2011 5:38 pm

    Who’s Liz Chun? You kidding right. Nevermind.

  395. homey ℞ December 16, 2011 5:39 pm

    Dinner time!!!

  396. Capitolist/WassupDoc December 16, 2011 5:41 pm

    d1shima – Mahalo.

  397. Derek December 16, 2011 5:42 pm

    I vote for Miano, Nike, and Kanoa Leahey.

  398. d1shima December 16, 2011 5:45 pm

    Not sure if the last Leahey and Leahey was a rebroadcast but was cool watching Kanoa interviewing 3 of Chuck’s boys

  399. d1shima December 16, 2011 5:47 pm


    Mondo Huevos for Sam Houston St. pays off….

  400. al December 16, 2011 5:59 pm


  401. Ipu Man December 16, 2011 5:59 pm


  402. Ipu Man December 16, 2011 5:59 pm

    …with the mostess…

  403. MattyBoy December 16, 2011 6:02 pm

    It must be very difficult to choose out of the mediocre to subpar candidates that have applied.

  404. MattyBoy December 16, 2011 6:05 pm

    Just pick one. Don’t matter. Seems like they’re all the same anyways. Not like we got a great crop of coaches from lol.

  405. MattyBoy December 16, 2011 6:06 pm

    To choose *

  406. Hiflyer December 16, 2011 6:06 pm

    RK just reported that Brian Norwood is in town for an interview this weekend.

  407. RedZone December 16, 2011 6:10 pm

    Hilo kicking UHs butt right now. 25 – 14.

  408. MattyBoy December 16, 2011 6:14 pm

    Was hoping Gilbride would apply this time around. But By the look of it, doesn’t seem he did. Dang!

  409. tommui December 16, 2011 6:14 pm

    RK also said unconfirmed reports that Chow and Sitake are coming in to be interviewed.

  410. RedZone December 16, 2011 6:15 pm

    UH battling back 25 – 20.

  411. duffer December 16, 2011 6:15 pm

    WOW, Vulcans up on the Warriors 25-14, 7 minutes left, first half.

  412. tommui December 16, 2011 6:16 pm

    Michelle was -5 from the leader and tied for 8th place. A dollar here, a dollar there …

  413. RedZone December 16, 2011 6:21 pm

    Hilo leads 30 – 29 with 2:59 in first half.

  414. Shadow December 16, 2011 6:23 pm

    What happened to Shawna Lei Kuehu? TV reporting she’s out for rest of yr due to “personal reasons.”

  415. RedZone December 16, 2011 6:26 pm

    Hilo leads at the half 34 – 32.

  416. RedZone December 16, 2011 6:29 pm

    Zane Johnson zero points so far.

  417. d1shima December 16, 2011 6:30 pm

    Gee. Wat we going do with the MBB HC?

  418. anklebiters December 16, 2011 6:35 pm

    “A fourth applicant reportedly has been contacted, but he has requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of his job situation.”

    I’m not 100% sure but I thought I saw Todd Graham at Sky Harbor standing in the 1st class checkout line at Hawaiian Airlines today…. 😆

  419. Shadow December 16, 2011 6:35 pm

    MBBC HC? Ferd & Dave must be happy – they got somebody else to pick on now.

  420. Stephen Tsai December 16, 2011 6:42 pm

    Chow is going to be interviewed, but he’s keeping it hush-hush.

    Not sure about Sitake. He applied, according to a relative, and he’s an intriguing candidate. If you’re an investor, he would be one of those buy-low types. Get him now because UH won’t be able to afford him in a few years.

  421. Ipu Man December 16, 2011 6:51 pm

    I don’t blame Norm Chow trying to keep it hush-hush.

    We sort of embarrased him last time.

    Who wants to ask someone for a date and

    be turned down…

  422. RedZone December 16, 2011 6:53 pm

    UH leading 47-36. New HC need to see what the Gib does at halftime. UH has out scored Hilo 15 -2 so far in 2nd half.

  423. AlaWai December 16, 2011 6:54 pm

    ST: Do the local applicants get to interview?

  424. urbankid December 16, 2011 7:08 pm

    #422, yeah but should they have been down in the first place?

  425. whitey December 16, 2011 7:22 pm

    duffer, no porget, get game tomorrow.

  426. rainbowbballer December 16, 2011 7:30 pm

    Howzit Stephen,

    who pays the bill to bring in all these guys for interviews. Nice to talk to them and hear their ideas, but the bottom line is are these guys willing to accept the job for less than $600,000 dollars. That should be the first and most important question, or are we operating in never-neverland. Thats why the students want representation of their $50, dont blame them. What you think??

  427. postmanke December 16, 2011 7:31 pm

    Chow hasn’t even been interviewed yet and he’s already pissing me off

  428. kama krab December 16, 2011 7:40 pm

    Eh Hawaiian how you,

    You couldn’t get enough hah brah. Had to put that little jab in ah. Just like one true hawaiian. LOL

    Anyways some of my friends are pretty damn goood coaches and the one that applied for the job is not only a damn good coach but also a damn good person. So was his late brother which was my mentor and gave me a chance to give back to the youth of today.

    Oh and no worry about me applying cause I’m happy in the private sector coaching at private schools and being an accountant at one of the top distribution company’s in the state.

    Oh and one last thing, if someone really love the game that they where coaching and got an opportunity to pursue it as a career why would they pass up the chance. Maybe cause the opportunity was a figment of ones imagination.

    Anyway I will say no more good friend and I hope whoever gets the job brings the program to a stage of consistent winning. Also I hope they can bring back the pride everyone once had for a very proud program.

    Mahalo for the fun, Hawaiian

  429. Manoa Mist December 16, 2011 7:47 pm

    Think the job is Chow’s to lose. I ain’t saying who I want, I’m still mad we didn’t pick Jellybean Bryant for basketball.

  430. postmanke December 16, 2011 7:47 pm

    since nobody is picking Brian Norwood, I’ll pick him. He’s only about 2 or 3 Hawaiian Chili Peppers under the okole from landing this job.

  431. Ipu Man December 16, 2011 7:59 pm

    Well, Brian Norwood oc at Baylor seems like a good fit for Hawaii, too.

    Norwood was assistant to Mike Leach at Texas Tech in 2000. Norwood has also been an assistant to Joe Paterno at Penn State from 2001-2007.

    His son Gabe, is a former member of the George Mason University basketball team that advanced to the 2006 NCAA Final Four and is a former member of the Philippine national basketball team. His other son, Jordan, played wide receiver at Penn State and was a wide receiver for the Cleveland Browns.

    Did Penn State pick a successor yet? Norwood also applied for

    that job.

  432. postmanke December 16, 2011 8:03 pm

    I predicted Gib as HC in here before he was named as a candidate.. The hire just made too much sense. But my “contracting stars” alignment with Niumatalolo was a little off. I still would like to see Jasper bring it back to Manoa. might not be the popular choice but if we wanna get back to consistent winning and strap em up football not a bad way to go. the hire makes way too much sense.

  433. lee December 16, 2011 8:04 pm

    I don’t think macs salary had anything to do why he was let go. He was bought out for 600k, and if the next coach let say were to be paid 500k (low side) that is still 1.1 mil for 2012 which is macs salary for 2012′.

    Let say they extend macs contract, i don’t think even Mac expect to be retained at 1.1 mil. so not sure where the AD saved any money by let him go other than his performance.


  434. Derek December 16, 2011 8:07 pm

    Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Time’s a wasting. Most of the other programs have filled their openings. Hawaiian time again. And this is supposed to be the fast track!

  435. d1shima December 16, 2011 8:09 pm


    Had a thought today that Pitt might get a guy in there first? 👿

  436. d1shima December 16, 2011 8:13 pm


  437. kama krab December 16, 2011 8:13 pm

    Derek #434,

    Yah this is the fastest it get’s. Atleast they got interviews this weekend instead of starting the interviews next week. I had hoped that they would have chosen someone by the ending of the week which is tommorrow but there is no chance of that now. Hopefully they chose someone by the ending of next week since the new staff would only have a month to recruit. Gotta remember Feb. 1st.

  438. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 8:26 pm

    With a new coach… the entire starting lineup is up for grabs… lots of competition for playing time this spring… hope the weight room is packed and busy like heck!

  439. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 8:36 pm


    December 16th, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    “A fourth applicant reportedly has been contacted, but he has requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of his job situation.”

    I’m not 100% sure but I thought I saw Todd Graham at Sky Harbor standing in the 1st class checkout line at Hawaiian Airlines today….

    Hey? Maybe that wasn’t Graham.. maybe it was Gilbride? We can hope.

  440. MattyBoy December 16, 2011 8:44 pm


    Tsai said gilbride didn’t apply

  441. Really? December 16, 2011 8:52 pm

    Looks like Miano, and his full court press from behind the scenes (with help from his media drinking buddies) is fading fast. Proof you have to earn this position with performance not by insider favor trading. I bet the Miano war room is in panic mode. Interesting to watch from afar. It’s getting nitty gritty time.

  442. Old Diver December 16, 2011 8:54 pm


    And you are basing this on?

  443. MistahB84 December 16, 2011 8:57 pm

    If I had a choice of picking a HC, I would go after the OC’s at Oregon, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech, but that’s my own opinion. If Rich Miano isn’t chosen as the HC at UH, then hopefully who ever is will retain him as the AHC, because I believe he is currently the best recruiter out of the current staff, along with Tuioti. I agree with those of you who thought the Rolovich seemed like his hands were tied and wasn’t able to call ALL the plays he wanted to because of Mac, but still there isn’t any evolution of the run n shoot…..June Jones is gone and I don’t think anyone can replicate his offense unless they do it for almost a decade. In Junes offense we see throws made in all angles, while in our current offense, we tend to depend too much on the slot backs on quick ins or quick outs, and then drop the easy catch 65% of the time.

    Changes must be made especially on offense, don’t get me wrong, i love the run n shoot, but the more our conference rivals play us, they will eventually learn to stop our offense….unless we give them more to worry about besides playing 4 wide receivers all the time, and i hope Rolo realizes that!

  444. sean (aka pcwarrior) December 16, 2011 9:15 pm

    @414 & 440

    Nope, neither one of them on a HAL flight

  445. Old Diver December 16, 2011 9:18 pm

    A highly paid successful coordinator from a big BCS school would never consider coming here as HC. The reason is he would not be able to hire highly paid assistants. That is why the belief that Banker could hire Cavanaugh as o-line coach or Chow could hire Sitake as defensive coordinator is an unrealistic dream. This is why there are no high profile applicants. And before you argue that any of them are high profile lets remember, not one applicant would be considered for another D1 university’s football HC.

  446. al December 16, 2011 9:22 pm

    “we tend to depend too much on the slot backs on quick ins or quick outs, and then drop the easy catch 65% of the time.”

    this was the direct result of the poor oline play. too often the qb had less than 2.5 seconds to unload before getting pillaged by the on rushing defense. therefore, those were the only plays the offense had time for.

    go ask moniz, graves, and austin how often they either got hit, sacked, or knocked on their okole.

  447. kama krab December 16, 2011 9:24 pm

    Old Diver #446,

    For most of the 40 some applicants you are probably right but there are a couple that if they applied at other places might just a have chance.

  448. al December 16, 2011 9:26 pm

    had a feeling that anae was still in the hunt. his taking the arizona job was the classic case of “bird(ie) in the hand is worth two in the bush.”

  449. sean (aka pcwarrior) December 16, 2011 9:31 pm

    Old diver #446

    As someone mentioned above, don’t forget about Brian Norwood, who just happened to be part of the staff that coached the most recent Heisman Trophy winner.

  450. kama krab December 16, 2011 9:34 pm

    But here’s reality,

    Like I said early on, there was not going to be a big name coach with head coaching experience applying for this position. Besides Dirk Koetter and Coach Rush, I don’t think anybody has any head coaching experience. I thought there might be an outside chance that a big name assistant would come but as we have seen, there is not one to name. So what you have is a whole bunch of solid long time assistant’s that know the game and have been around programs that for the most part have been solid winning programs. For most of them, they have solid recruiting backgrounds and a solid resume to go along with it. Who know’s what may come out of this selection because no matter who is chosen, this may be there first head coaching opportunity. I just hope that JD and the selection committee picks who they feel will take us to the next cause it looks like the Big East may be looking west again soon. Oh and there’s always that dream of getting into the Pac whatever it becomes when everything really settles.

  451. MistahB84 December 16, 2011 9:37 pm


    Yes that’s true about the o line, but still if you have a scrambler qb, then why not call some more plays for that type of player? I dare not go into the whole Tim Tebow thing, but who knows, it could do a lot of good to play to the strengths of our qb’s.

  452. al December 16, 2011 9:40 pm

    first group

    anae and banker

    second group

    akina, norwood, sitake, and chow

    third group

    koetter, miano…

  453. jm2375 December 16, 2011 9:40 pm


    DPK & homey – the imp rules again!! (got nominated for several awards) 😀

  454. Old Diver December 16, 2011 9:43 pm


    If not for Brian Norwood’s close ties with the Baylor HC he would have been fired last year. The fan base was fed up with his defense and weren’t shy about saying so.

  455. sean (aka pcwarrior) December 16, 2011 9:44 pm


    that birdies chirpin tonight!!

  456. Old Diver December 16, 2011 9:45 pm


    About that rumor that Rolo might be up for a job elsewhere. Is it true?

  457. Old Diver December 16, 2011 9:47 pm


    Kama krab

    Well said.

  458. sean (aka pcwarrior) December 16, 2011 9:47 pm

    Old Diver,

    I guess thats why he became Assoc Head Coach. I would’ve liked to see Dino Babers get a shot here.

  459. Old Diver December 16, 2011 9:49 pm



    That was also a direct result of Rolo not having a diverse play book to work with.

  460. kama krab December 16, 2011 10:01 pm

    Though this job may go to someone out side of this current staff, I still feel that Tony T. or Rolo may be the long-term future of this program. Tony T. cause the braddah is just a crazy hard worker and has built relationships with coaches as far as Ohio and even Florida. Also we he speaks he just demands respect but at the same time is very respectful in what he says.

    Rolo because he has a little bit of JJ in him. No he is not as polished just yet but give another 5-10 years to build his resume of solid offenses and he may be a force to reckon with.

    Though they are not ready yet, give them another 5-10 years in the profession and you may be looking at the next UH head coach.

  461. MistahB84 December 16, 2011 10:03 pm

    kama krab, couldn’t have said it better myself.

  462. Mark December 16, 2011 10:10 pm

    It would be nice to hire Montana’s coach

  463. homey ℞ December 16, 2011 10:15 pm

    jm#### – Am I the only one who read all the books? Probably warriormojo read all of them…

  464. bigislandkurt December 16, 2011 10:15 pm


    Had he had the qualifications to apply, Tuioti would have been my choice to be the next head coach. But that is a moot point.

    I still believe that he will be the UH head coach one day.


  465. Guy in the office December 16, 2011 10:16 pm

    Re: 455. You write so authoritatively about Brian Norwood, but I suspect you simply googled his name and picked that up from a message board. While I don’t know enough about his coaching acumen to say he’s head-coaching material, I can say that when I first met him while he was in high school I was struck by what a remarkable young man he was. A few years ago I ran into him in Waikiki, and he seemed to be the same genuine person. So, unless you know the guy or have connections to the Baylor program, go easy on him. You’d like him if you met him.

  466. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 16, 2011 10:20 pm

    kama krab,

    i still feel Chow is a “big name” assistant.

  467. tommui December 16, 2011 10:21 pm

    Steve Uyehara in the news tonight said that Norm Chow has already been interviewed and that Robert Anae is in town recruiting but said that he has applied for the job and will be interviewed.

  468. Capitolist/WassupDoc December 16, 2011 10:27 pm

    According to (very reliable) sources, money issues are not the #1 priority. There has been a significant effort to up the donations to cover the salary & incentive costs plus provide employment for the spouse if needed along with housing support. That is HUGE.

    As for my choice – I prefer someone with a minimum of 10 years playing NCAA & NFL football and 10 years of coaching experience. However, I want the everyone on the new coaching staff to not only have significant football experience but also intelligence, creative thinking skills, and the ability to lead and be positive role models.

    Don’t forget that there’s a Wahine basketball tournament this coming Sunday, Monday & Tuesday plus a Men’s basketball tournament next Thursday, Friday and a week from Sunday plus the Sheraton Hawai`i Bowl a week from tomorrow.

  469. Coach's Corner December 16, 2011 10:28 pm

    Your finalist:

    AKINA! -Punahou!

    BANKER! -Kamehameha!

    Guess who has the upper hand and the final say…

    “Ring, ring, Kalihi, ring

    Swell the echo of our song.

    Ray, ray, ray, ray, ray, rah; ray, ray Kamehameha

    Let hills and valleys loud our song prolong…”

  470. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 16, 2011 10:30 pm


    Capi/Doc – If true, that is great news.

  471. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 16, 2011 10:35 pm


    thanks for the update. was hoping Anae would at least get a chance for an interview.

  472. Let Donovan Choose December 16, 2011 10:39 pm

    Coaches Corner,

    Oh yeah… DUH! Forgot Rockne Freitas is a Kamehameha alum.

  473. Moocher December 16, 2011 10:44 pm

    I’m for Brian Norwood. I think UH needs a younger hungry lion who has seen the promised land of BCS schools, facilities, competition, etc. and has been in a BCS “system”. Brian can make it his own and knows the game, the guy has been around pedigree coaching and no doubt he will take an opportunity like this and push the program to the goal line and beyond. Short or long-term in my opinion Brian is the only guy that fits and knows Hawaii, the players, the fans, the importance of what it means to the state to win on Saturday.

    Miano is tiring. With all respect the secondary has always always been a weak spot. You look at the secondary and maybe you get one or two players who shine. But as a unit the secondary has never shined.

    Chow would be a bad hire. He’s on a slippery slope and just cannot seem to get traction the past few years with his offenses.

    I really cannot see anyone else that would fit on both sides of the ball as much as Norwood will. The guy has been around, he’s gobbled it all up, in my opinion he is another Niumatalolo if he’s given the opportunity. Norwood is the guy hands down.

  474. Old Diver December 16, 2011 10:45 pm


    You are right. I did lay on him a bit. Bad judgement on my part. Guess I have been a bit upset over people doing the same to Rich Miano. Rich was doing the best he could under the circumstances. This was difficult not being one of the head guys pet coaches. I guess al was biting his lip when I was critical of Rolo without knowing what was going on with the offense too. Well your point is well taken and I will try to watch myself.

  475. Old Diver December 16, 2011 10:51 pm


    On one of the other boards someone posted the UH secondary national ranking. We were pretty consistently ranked in the upper third of D1 schools. UH has placed many defensive backs on the all WAC team. The statistics prove that the belief UH has a weak secondary is just a perception and has no truth to it.

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  477. cocobean December 16, 2011 11:14 pm

    Norm Chow is one OC Charlie Weiss won’t have a schematic advantage over. Norm Chow is the one guy that can make Weiss seem affable.

  478. cocobean December 16, 2011 11:22 pm

    My perception of our DBs was they were as a whole pretty light in the butt. No heavy hitter who could fear into receivers coming over the middle. So so in run support.

  479. HappyFace December 16, 2011 11:25 pm

    I would love Norm Chow. I would go to ALL the games. Norm Chow’s West coast offense. Can also do run and shoot at times like NFL does, but because of mix, keeps em honest. Players have a better chance in getting to the next level of NFL because not a “system quarterback” etc. Already knows PAC 12, so can have a better chance to beat em (think usc next) and/or join em later if they let us.

    He is a son of Hawaii, an island boy who wants to come home. Let him come home. It would make his life come full circle. He is consistent and “solid”. He would appreciate us more and love us more and vice versa. We would get him cheaper because he is the sleeper.

  480. tommui December 16, 2011 11:35 pm

    What I want in a head coach?

    At least nine wins each and every season. Whether he does it with a RnS or a Wing-T is immaterial. Admittedly, three yards and a cloud of dust is boring, but if he can win, I’ll settle for it.

  481. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 11:43 pm

    Old Diver:

    This is where the rumor about Rolo having another offer came from..

    Hawaii: The Hawaii head coaching search will move forward later in the week with interviews. Depending on the outcome, I’m told current offensive coordinator Nick Rolovich may have a decision to make. A source tells me that Rolovich is a candidate to land another offensive coordinator position.

  482. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 11:46 pm

    Looks like Houston has their sights on Sonny Dykes. Think he’ll go?

  483. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 11:47 pm

    Rice: The Rice board of trustees approved a $44.5 million proposal to build a two-story football facility near the South end zone at Rice Stadium. The project will also include stadium enhancements that make the gameday atmosphere more appealing.

    Same link as #482

  484. madeinhawaii December 16, 2011 11:50 pm

    We can only dream of a $44.5 million dollar enhancement to our Stadium..

    Night all..

  485. Kevin December 16, 2011 11:54 pm

    $44 million for Aloha Stadium will buy new metal seat number tags for the chairs, but only for the Makai side.

  486. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 16, 2011 11:54 pm

    Rice get plenty rice from its boosters. Very good University.

  487. al December 17, 2011 12:12 am

    old diver…please seek rolo and ask him how extensivce his playbook is.

    aside from the rns




    two back

    tight end

    two tight ends

    a multitude of trick plays that the outgoing guy/hc didn’t want.

    his play book twice jj’s.

    but again he was stymied by the hc who also listened to his oline and st coach, both of whom had no business crossing over in this wide open offense, being that they were 3 yards and a cloud of dust guys.

    go ask rolo.

  488. Pomai December 17, 2011 3:39 am

    Rich Miano    –    14

    Norm Chow    –    7

    George Rush    –    5

    Nick Rolovich    –    5

    Duane Akina    –    4

    Mike Cavanaugh    –    2

    Chris Petersen    –    1

    Jerry Glanville    –    1

    Kalani Sitake    –    1

    Kevin Gilbride    –    1

    Mark Banker    –    1

    Mike McCarthy    –    1

    Nick Saban    –    1

    Pat Hill    –    1

  489. 808realism December 17, 2011 4:17 am

    COME ON PEOPLE!!! A coach is only as good as his assistants. As much as we all like Rolo and Miano as people, they cant continue to coach here if we want our program to be competitive. GOT TO HAVE A BRAND NEW STAFF WHICH MEANS BRAND NEW CULTURE OF THE PROGRAM!!

  490. 808realism December 17, 2011 4:17 am

    COME ON PEOPLE!!! A coach is only as good as his assistants. As much as we all like Rolo and Miano as people, they cant continue to coach here if we want our program to be competitive. GOT TO HAVE A BRAND NEW STAFF WHICH MEANS BRAND NEW CULTURE OF THE PROGRAM!!

  491. WarriorNY December 17, 2011 4:20 am

    I’m starting to really not care who the HC is. Just keep Rolo as OC and Banker, Akina, Cavanaugh or Miano can duke it out. I’d really like to see how Banker would improve our defense schemes or Akina work with our talented secondary or Cav work with the O-Line.

  492. PIAA DS December 17, 2011 5:40 am

    #126 – OMG

    Clemson doesnt have any players from west of Tennessee!!! EAST COAST BIASED! SUE THEM!

    Boston College – not a player west of Minnesota- OMG better claim biased against Californians

    Tennessee – only three from California and NONE from Texas – OMG- get a lawyer!

    I could keep going, but get real! These school recruit 90% of students from the east coast. They bring in people to play that their fans are familiar with. They have told me they do not need to recruit the west, they do not need to recruit Hawaii; its expensive and the few they have recruited in the past did not want to go that far. And isnt that where the majority of the population of Polynesians are, West? Hawaii, Samoa, Texas, Cali, Utah? All these states are under recruited by the East coast schools – that means no blacks or whites from those areas as well. There are plenty polynesians playing at plenty of smaller east coast schools, they go their site unseen in most cases, do very well and stay and thats simply because at the D1AA or D2 level they may not have many other choices. But athletes at the SEC/Pac12/Big10 level have choices and the polynesian kids typically choose to go where there is a larger population of ‘local’ athletes. There is no biased among the colleges. If there is one coach who ‘supposedly’ made a comment – well we had a coach who made pretty stupid comments publicly as well didnt we. That doesnt mean all WAC schools thought the Fighting Irish were…..what eveh…

  493. wafan December 17, 2011 5:41 am

    Good morning!

  494. wafan December 17, 2011 5:50 am

    A lot of opinions. Some facts. Due diligence.

  495. VonAppen December 17, 2011 5:51 am

    A source close to the situation tells me that Norm Chow’s interview with Hawaii officials went extremely well.

  496. justsaying December 17, 2011 6:25 am

    I think coach mack deserves more respect, first of all he applied for the coaching job only because the coaching staff wanted to save there jobs, he could have gone with jj to smu . it was the herman frazer who screwed everything up by not appreciating jj which led to his leaving, then led to the big money contract .coach mac was a great dc but not a great head coach he did the best he could learning on the job. uh lost a lot of the games because of the defense and bad coaching decisions, if coach mack couldve run the defense and handle the head coaching duties he would still be the coach today,also I think the administration was not happy with his communication skills.the next coach should be modeled after dave shoji, he is the equivilent of coach peterson to boise.finally i think uh has to run a passing offense like byu and boise to offset the physical superiority of bcs teams

  497. 1sportsfan December 17, 2011 6:30 am

    Know very little about all the HC candidates. Only know that Miano played HS & college football in Hawaii, then went on to NFL and was a starter. Then spent the next phase of his life on the UH staff and also holding clinics for upcoming young athletes. He could have gone elsewhere but chose Hawaii. Hawaii should choose Miano.

  498. koakane December 17, 2011 7:02 am


  499. koakane December 17, 2011 7:03 am

    bingo big 5 puka puka

  500. koakane December 17, 2011 7:05 am

    wea da kope this rainy morning

    rise and shine 808

  501. d1shima(Galaxy 'd) December 17, 2011 7:08 am

    Great Morning All!

    Lower campus before dawn looks…



  502. Old School Dave December 17, 2011 7:14 am

    Norm Chow: what has he done recently? Well, he did have something to do with coaching Utah’s offense to 4 straight Pac-12 win after they lost their starting QB who was touted for some post-season honors. They came within one game of making it to the PAC-12 Championship game in their first season there. The backup was supposed to be headed to Div-II Nebraska-Omaha, but ended up at Utah after UNO dropped football.

    With Chow as HC, UH may actually attract the type of QBs that June Jones SAID would be pounding on the door to come here.

    Regardless, I hope they make their choice by early next week. The clock is ticking.

  503. Bugaz December 17, 2011 7:16 am

    503 I agree with you!!!

  504. Old School Dave December 17, 2011 7:17 am

    When has someone earned the right to become a head coach? Some guys get not one, but two chances to fail and fail miserably as head coaches.

    Buddy Teevens: Tulane and Stanford.

    Keith Gilbertson: California and Washington

  505. koakane December 17, 2011 7:34 am

    d1 hope its not raining and its a nice day for graduation

    if not well happy wet day to you

  506. koakane December 17, 2011 7:47 am

    btw congrats to all the warriors and wahines graduating from the UH today.

  507. Mark December 17, 2011 7:48 am

    ST….put my HC vote down for Kalani Sitake

  508. Steve Paschal December 17, 2011 8:04 am

    At first I was not particularly thrilled about the possibility of Norm Chow being selected, for all the reasons already given. I’ve come full circle on that insofar if he can demonstrate the energy level necessary to do the job, he may indeed be the better choice.

    I always felt that Coach Mac was elevated a notch too high for his real capabilities…no shame in that, happens all the time. He was a great defensive coach—However as a head coach, merely OK. And as ST says, the man could not articulate his thoughts well, especially when a microphone was around. Truth be told, a persons ability of speaking often is an indicator of their thinking and how they think of themselves. He was a tentative coach, that I always thought second guessed himself too often. On and off the field.

    I always thought he was joking when he called one of his players ..” ..tough as a mother…” Thats real 1959 speak, for those of us who are Macs age. Not very good for TV interviews though.

  509. d1shima(Galaxy 'd) December 17, 2011 8:08 am

    No rain in the Stanley

  510. papajoe2 December 17, 2011 8:11 am

    last night my house was sunny.

  511. koakane December 17, 2011 8:27 am

    well much to do so play nice and be nice

    catch yu’all lattas

  512. Slugger December 17, 2011 8:42 am

    Good morning, gang!

    ST ~

    Whose graduating? I’m gonna head over to graduation, but I don’t have a scorecard. 😀 All I remember are the usual suspects. Guess I’ll figah it out.


  513. homey ℞ December 17, 2011 8:50 am

    I go to the beach…jump on the board…and what…get all wet from the rain. Lose money.

  514. homey ℞ December 17, 2011 8:51 am

    Whose? Who’s… 😆

  515. homey ℞ December 17, 2011 8:52 am

    Bonding time. Have a good day world.

  516. tommui December 17, 2011 9:00 am

    Good column this AM – Ferd.

  517. Kekoa December 17, 2011 9:18 am

    If Gen. Patton was available, I would have voted for that One Tuff Mutha! Can you imagine what his press conference would be like?!

    Since he’s not…I’ll defer to the selection board and back whom-so-ever they bestow the HC title.

    Have a better day just knowing you are not stuck in the neighborhood post office line, or in mall traffic.

  518. papajoe2 December 17, 2011 9:41 am

    Watching Temple giving it to Wyoming. 21-0 eary in the 2nd qtr. Wyoming tackles just like Hawaii. Or should I be saying Wyoming doesn’t tackle like Hawaii didn’t. Or maybe just say they are poor tacklers like Hawaii was.

  519. bigislandkurt December 17, 2011 9:51 am

    PIAA Doris….

    I think 126 made that statement as a tongue-in-cheek shot at the discussion Polymom started about certain SEC schools openly discriminating against Polynesian players.

    I feel the same way….SEC is in the country’s most hottest recruiting grounds. They do not need to go west too often.


  520. madeinhawaii December 17, 2011 9:54 am

    Shawna Kuehu left the team, eh? Things just don’t get easier for Coach Dana.

  521. papajoe2 December 17, 2011 10:01 am

    Blog is slow today. Maybe everybody is waiting for some news from ST.

  522. Ipu Man December 17, 2011 10:03 am

    zzzzz a little boring here waiting for Tsai’s latest hot scooooop poop.

    So I clicked on Linda Lingle’s little ad at the top.

    Not toooo bad.

  523. kryon December 17, 2011 10:04 am


  524. cocobean December 17, 2011 10:06 am

    #518. Patton, old blood and guts. The Bear, Woody and Bo.

    Rommel, The Desert Fox. Chris Petersen, Urban Meyer.

  525. bigislandkurt December 17, 2011 10:07 am

    Amen Kekoa.


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