Hold me back

It was a Flint who sparked the post-game fight between UH and Cincinnati in the last meeting, won by the Warriors, 20-19, in 2002.
“Remember Jared Flint, the (UH reserve) quarterback?” said Chris Brown, who was a UH linebacker at the time. “Somebody took a swing at him. The two sides surged from there. We weren’t going to let our quarterback take a hit.”
Brown admitted to being involved.
“We were in the mix,” said Brown, now a UH manager. “We had to defend our territory.”
And what induced a Bearcat to swing at Flint?
“He was the only one without a helmet on,” Brown said. “He was standing on the sideline.”

* * *

UH teammates and coaches were angry that defensive end David Veikune was not placed on the All-WAC first team.
But Veikune said he was not bothered by the snub.
“I’m not losing any sleep over it,” Veikune said. “Every game I know I’ve played as hard as I can. I can’t dwell on the past.”
He also said he was “honored” to have placed on the second team. (As a reserve last year, he made the 2007 All-WAC first team.)
“I didn’t have the most sacks this year, and we weren’t undefeated,” Veikune said. “I give a lot of credit to the other guys.”

* * *

Onarock has an extra ticket to Saturday’s game, and he’ll donate it to our contest winner. Thing is,  in the spirit of giving, he wants the ticket to go to a Blood Bank donor. If you have given blood this week, or will before Saturday’s game, you’re eligible. To enter the contest, please write: “I want to enter.” Drawing will be tonight.

* * *

Kristin (Curveball’s wife) has been diagnosed with a serious illness. She is in the critical-care unit at Pali Momi.
Well-wishes may be sent to: gdholden@hawaii.rr.com


  1. Hawaiianbod December 4, 2008 12:39 am


  2. Hawaiianbod December 4, 2008 12:43 am

    Prayers and good thoughts for Kristin.

  3. Shannon December 4, 2008 12:50 am

    My prayers go out to ‘Curveball’, Kristin and their family as well…

    I’m sitting here watching a DVD of the 2006 UH vs. Purdue game… boy do I miss these guys…Colt, Davone, RGM, Rivers, Ilaoa, the whole O-Line… Peters, Patek, Alama-Francis, Purcell and yeah…even JJ…

  4. Shannon December 4, 2008 12:54 am

    Haha…yeah, I remember seeing someone took a swing at Flint…after “someone else” threw a drink at a Bearcat… wasn’t Chris brown the one running around with a Cincy helmet? Or was that the Hawaii Bowl fight?

  5. jm2375 December 4, 2008 12:55 am

    Top 5!!

    OK really late for me. Oyasumina-tsai. Hasta manana.

  6. Ralph December 4, 2008 12:55 am

    Prayers and best wishes for Kristen- get well soon..Curveball give her all of your energy to suppress the ailment…

  7. Shannon December 4, 2008 12:56 am

    Going back to missing the Warriors of 2006… the YAC output from these receivers was crazy…

  8. koakane™ December 4, 2008 12:59 am

    au’wyrte maybe in top ten maybe

  9. Shannon December 4, 2008 1:01 am

    I almost forgot about Lafaele…

  10. HiFlyer December 4, 2008 1:08 am

    curveball, good thoughts and prayers for you and kristin.

    top ten?

  11. koakane™ December 4, 2008 1:11 am

    hello late nighters

    first my best to kristen curveball mrs. hope all goes well and she recovers quickly. both of you will be missed at this saturday’s tgate 🙁

    finally caught up on two days of reading the blog. very busy with da gov’s mandate to cut budget by 15 to 20%. much anger, frustration and fences to mend once dust clears. not to many happy campers sorry to say. this sat is going to give me a relief being out of the crap that is going down. but on the other side we going beat the bobcats and I will feel supa for a while.

    bulla if you read this my cheers to beast and wstate. add 8) my congrats along with the oddah tsai-ko’s.

  12. koakane™ December 4, 2008 1:14 am

    kinda late so heading off to nite nite see or read other post in the morning.

    ➡ esmzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  13. las vegas December 4, 2008 1:15 am

    good morning

  14. Shannon December 4, 2008 1:18 am

    good morning Vegas…

  15. las vegas December 4, 2008 1:20 am

    Hi Shannon,
    up late or up early?

  16. las vegas December 4, 2008 1:21 am

    oh wait, watching a DVD!

  17. Shannon December 4, 2008 1:21 am

    Shhhh..I’m at work… watching a DVD… : )

  18. BigWave96744 December 4, 2008 1:22 am

    Was it the Cincy or Houston coached that in some way blamed Hawaii for having too many fans on the field with field passes? Saying something like they were being taunted by these fans…..

    If some of you look who is on the field with passes, I think the AVERAGE age is around 45-55

  19. BigWave96744 December 4, 2008 1:23 am

    opps.. coaches not coached

  20. Shannon December 4, 2008 1:23 am

    Vegas, any “CC’s” in the 702 around 12/28 – 01/02? I’ll be in town visitng my parents during that time…

  21. Shannon December 4, 2008 1:26 am

    eh, BigWave…long time no talk!!! I think it was the Cincy coaches…

  22. BigWave96744 December 4, 2008 1:30 am

    Braddah Shans…
    Keeping the city safe early in the morning up there in SJ?

  23. las vegas December 4, 2008 1:30 am

    702WN and myself are always ready for the next mini CC

    jrcollins42 at excite dot com
    drop a line B4 u come

  24. Shannon December 4, 2008 1:32 am

    BigWave…Yeah…Kinda (as you can see, I’m watching the 2006 game vs. Purdue at the office) I finished my report early but nothings going on out there so… here I am! lol! How you been?

  25. Shannon December 4, 2008 1:34 am

    Vegas, sounds good. I’ll make sure to get in touch with you when I get there… You guys been to that ‘Island Sushi’ on Maryland?

  26. BigWave96744 December 4, 2008 1:41 am

    Busy with the 2 boys (1 and 4)..
    Your 2 boys must be getting bigger and bigger..
    Your wife still want to send them to Cal when they are big boys or has she converted to the Warrior Nation?

  27. Stephen Tsai December 4, 2008 1:44 am

    It was the Cincinnati AD who complained.
    This also was the the incident in which HF received some bad advice. After the fight, reporters implored HF to give a statement. He declined, saying he wanted to wait. Then the Cincinnati AD started making some negative comments about UH. Again, we asked HF to make a statement. Again, he declined. The Cincinnati AD made more comments, and they went national. Cincy got to give its version for two days before HF decided to respond. But he responded around 3:30-4 on a Tuesday afternoon, meaning it missed all of the East Coast papers. Cincinnati just had better spin control nationally.

  28. Stephen Tsai December 4, 2008 1:47 am

    It was HF’s first semester at UH, so I don’t really blame him as much. But I think somebody — Dobelle? Costello? — should have given him a little PR help.

  29. Shannon December 4, 2008 1:54 am

    BigWave, Yeah kids are a handful, yeah? Always got something to do with them or take them to… My older boy (9yrs. old, 5’2″, 115 lbs.) decided to take a break from Football this year. But he’s been playing basketball instead. It’s his second year and he’s already been MVP for 3 out of their 4 games. He’s plays “point-forward”, a la Lebron James… and all 3 of us (my little one is 6 now) have been taking JiuJitsu since March… Can you say no “free time” ?

  30. BigWave96744 December 4, 2008 1:55 am

    Were you ever near any danger during the Cincy or Houston brawls?

  31. Shannon December 4, 2008 2:00 am

    I think ST was the one who threw the drink at the Cincy guy… lol

  32. BigWave96744 December 4, 2008 2:07 am

    Best Quote:
    “After the game all the aloha that these two have for each other is gone. The luan forget about it, cancelled. The first thing in a fight never take your helmet off. AND never get into a bunch of Polynesian like that, brah” — Neil Everett ESPN

  33. BigWave96744 December 4, 2008 2:08 am

    Oh Mahalo Stephen….

  34. Shannon December 4, 2008 2:16 am

    Haha, I remember Neil Everett saying that…

  35. Shannon December 4, 2008 2:42 am

    WOW…How dare I forget Ross Dickerson… His 4th qtr. clutch catch-juke-sprint and leap into the endzone TD was flat out awesome…

  36. addahknowjoe December 4, 2008 3:09 am

    Our aloha and prayers go out to Sliders grammy.

  37. wafan December 4, 2008 4:33 am

    A fine morning to all!

    One day closer.


  38. wafan December 4, 2008 4:35 am

    Oh my!!!

    The blog clock is nearly spot on!!!

    I should expect a lot of snow sometime in the next few weeks. That would be a good thing for the ski slopes.

  39. Garret December 4, 2008 5:47 am

    Shannon, las vegas, 702WN,

    We just booked a trip to Vegas that would be for around the time Shannon will be there! We are staying at the new Hilton resort from December 29-December 31. In exchange for attending one of their presentations, we’re getting money from them to stay at their place.

    Cattle call on December 29 or 30 would work for us. Either dinner is free for us and lunch on 12/30 is also open now.

  40. Garret December 4, 2008 5:50 am

    Interesting that Texas Tech’s Mike Leach tried hard to get the Miami and UCLA jobs but neither school was interested. I wonder if those schools regret not hiring him? I’m sure that Texas Tech is grateful he stayed!

    In 2006, Leach made a run at the Miami job. He even had friend Donald Trump contact Miami president Donna Shalala on his behalf.

    Shalala didn’t listen and hired Randy Shannon instead. Trump then wrote a letter to Shalala in November 2007, when the Hurricanes were struggling through a 5-7 season.

    “You are my friend, but you should have listened to me,” Trump wrote. “If you did, your team would be fighting for the National Championship.”

    Last year Leach desperately wanted the UCLA job but Bruin officials were concerned over his outspoken nature and took a pass.

  41. Garret December 4, 2008 5:54 am

    The Texas vs. Texas A&M game got higher ratings than the Cardinals/Eagles game that was being broadcast at the same time.

    ESPN drew 5.7 million viewers for Texas/Texas A&M on Thanksgiving night, up 8% from 5.1 million for the USC/Arizona State game on Thanksgiving in ’07, and making the game the second most-viewed program of the week on cable.

    The 5.7 million viewers easily surpasses the 3.8 million who were watching the Cardinals/Eagles game on NFL Network at the same time.

  42. Garret December 4, 2008 5:56 am

    David Veikune might say that he’s not upset by the snub by the WAC…but I hope that he takes out his frustration on the Cincinnati QB on Saturday!

  43. jm2375 December 4, 2008 6:09 am

    Good morning Tsai-kos!! Howzit to the Mainland Tsai-kos!! Now, where da heo is brew (coqui, coqui)?

    Hope the weather holds out for Saturday. I don’t want to have to cover up the white shirt with a different color jacket or poncho.

  44. Garret December 4, 2008 6:11 am

    ESPN had an interesting tidbit about Washington State.

    Washington State’s basketball team leads the Pac-10 in scoring defense, giving up 43.8 points per game.

    Washington State’s football team is ranked last in the Pac-10 in scoring defense, giving up… 43.8 points per game.

  45. brew808 December 4, 2008 6:16 am

    ribbit… 🙄

  46. d1島 December 4, 2008 6:21 am

    Great Morning All!

    Kind thoughts and prayers to Kristin and curveball.

    Agreed. I think Saturday night could be a big night for all the DE’s; although I’m hoping not so much for their guys.
    Any update on how the Cincy coach will be “dealing with” his DE’s recent arrest? I find it telling that the player made the trip at all.

    A flint won’t spark unless it’s struck!

  47. d1島 December 4, 2008 6:23 am

    Have a great day erryboddy!


  48. Garret December 4, 2008 6:25 am


    The Cincinnati coach hasn’t said whether or not their DE will play. He hasn’t had a trial yet and they haven’t even finished the investigation for what happened, so nobody knows if he will play vs. UH.

    I think it is a good idea to bring the DE on the trip, where they can watch over him 24/7 instead of leaving him back with no supervision.

    Cincinnati’s other starting DE also had some incident, but that was a year or two ago and has been put behind him.

  49. Garret December 4, 2008 6:29 am

    The news that 51 people will be leaving the Advertiser, voluntarily or involuntarily, is sad. It is sadder to read this news about how the newspaper industry’s problems will result in some cities losing all of their local papers by 2010.

    Newspaper and newspaper groups are likely to default on their debt and go out of business next year — leaving “several cities” with no daily newspaper at all, Fitch Ratings says in a report on media released Wednesday.

    “Fitch believes more newspapers and newspaper groups will default, be shut down and be liquidated in 2009 and several cities could go without a daily print newspaper by 2010,” the Chicago-based credit ratings firm said in a report on the outlook for U.S. media and entertainment.

    Fitch rates the debt of two newspaper companies, The McClatchy Co. and Tribune Co. as junk, with serious possibilities of default. It also assigns a negative outlook to both the companies and the newspaper sector, meaning their credit ratings are likely to deteriorate further.

    While other forecasters are saying the advertising environment will be as bad as it was in 2001, Fitch predicts economic weakness continuing into 2010 could depress advertising by 6 percent to 9 percent in inflation-adjusted terms.

    Fitch says the advertising downturn that began this year is unique in that it affects not only national advertisers, but local ones as well. And unlike the easy credit and lower interest rates during the 2001 ad recession, this time advertisers and consumers face a credit freeze.

  50. Stretch December 4, 2008 6:35 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!

    After the fight, reporters implored HF to give a statement. He declined, saying he wanted to wait. Then the Cincinnati AD started making some negative comments about UH. Again, we asked HF to make a statement. Again, he declined.

    that should have been a sign for things to come…. Always a day (or week) late

  51. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER December 4, 2008 6:55 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

  52. lava December 4, 2008 7:12 am

    I can’t believe I’m reading about that bum Frazier again, Excuse me while a leave the room to embark on some screaming and swearing.

  53. djmitcho December 4, 2008 7:13 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos and everyone else! Hope everyone has a good day. Prayers and thoughts to Curveball and Kristen and ohana.

  54. Mav December 4, 2008 7:16 am

    Who’z HF ?

  55. Buffoman December 4, 2008 7:22 am

    Let’s just hope that the fans honor the game and in doing so, honor the players on the field on Saturday night. Two years ago when I went to see UH play at UNLV it really looked stupid in the stands. Idiotic folks (not fans) just looking to be stupid and start fights were all over the place.

    If we treat this game with Cincy in the same light because we feel that “we have to defend our turf” and provoke confrontation, the only people who stand to loose will be the UH, our community, the State and ultimately the team as no one would want to come to play the game.

    It’s a game, honor it and as fans we cannot allow bad behavior to have anyplace in the sport.

  56. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER December 4, 2008 7:32 am

    Further- it is Senior Night and every reason to honor our players with our support and respectful enthusiasm!


  57. wena December 4, 2008 7:34 am

    Good morning everybody!!

    Will be praying for Kristin and Curveball.

  58. Maverick December 4, 2008 7:45 am

    Imagine this coming game against Cincy with Zero penalties for UH, and with a Big East officiating crew.

    And on top with a win!

    Slam Dunk at the BCS

  59. Maverick December 4, 2008 7:46 am

    My thoughts and prayers to Kristen and Curveball. Let’s all give to help with recovery.

  60. MeiLing December 4, 2008 7:49 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka!!!

    Many, many prayers out for Kristen & Curveball and their ‘ohana, as well as all of those with health challenges.

    ST ~ Wonderful article about Solly and Adam. Brought tears to my eyes.

  61. koakane™ December 4, 2008 8:21 am

    morning tsai-ko kane’s and wahine’s. 8) sun is out and day looking good lets hope this stays like this for saturday’s game.

    wishing the best for curveball mrs. get well 😐 soon kristen.

    ditto the many comments for the seniors. come out and show some luv 😛 for their hard work and dedication to the 808 state. also yell your lungs out and rock da hale.

    reply to stevem comments: after two years I stopped trying to make heads or tails on what will happened. just let peeps do what they feel is best. the tgate still is great and everyone enjoys themselves no matter what. my comments was nothing negative but just saying to the one’s who come that they are and have been very generous with what the do to make the tgate suppa.

    Ronnie — I’m thinking of not listing tailgate food next year. Very few people say what they are bringing and don’t post or tell Kazz. Then people see that there are only a few food items listed so figure they should bring something. Then EVERYONE brings food for 5-10 people… 🙁

    I propose this Rule of Thumb:
    Visitors and first time Tsai-kos should not bring food to Tsaiko-Gates. Come and enjoy what we have (and don’t believe all the talk about animal parts). But bring your own refreshments.

  62. Committed Road Warrior December 4, 2008 8:23 am

    Hi everyone!

    My prayers and thoughts are with Curveball, his wife, and their family through this time.

  63. BillB December 4, 2008 8:23 am

    Two great chickin skin articles this morning. One FB by ST and the other WVB by Ann Miller. Advertiser take note, these are two really talented journalist that blended sports with the personal side in these articles. Been through a layoff and it’s really stressful having to file for unemployment and seeing the 6 months click down while you are looking for another job; double whammy this time of the year too.

    Don’t know Curveball, but wishing his wife well.

  64. Bulla December 4, 2008 8:23 am


    thoughts and prayers from our ohana to kristin, curveball and their ohana. the power of prayer is unmatched…..

    koakane – mahalo for the good word, will relay the thoughts to the beast, will know tomorrow if he is playing on saturday

    to all the Tsaikos, let us all be thankful for what we have and give our thanks.

  65. koakane™ December 4, 2008 8:27 am

    short comments before back to managing the compound. oline will have their hands full against cincy, wishing them the best.

    d1 on 1500 now and commenting on dends not playing this sat. got arrested before getting on plane but other end still awesome. d1 sure sound like a knowledgeable or is it another person impersonating him 😆

  66. koakane™ December 4, 2008 8:31 am

    bulla safe journey to you and mrs this weekend. know that beast has fball in blood but need to heal up and play for another day also live life free of pain when fball is pau.

  67. FloridaTed December 4, 2008 8:38 am

    Morning/afternoon, Tsaiko-Nation and Tsai-Meister.

    Kristin, Curveball and Ohana,

    The combined power of prayer of Tsaiko-Nation shall carry you like a chariot in overcoming your hardship.

    We’re all with you.

  68. chawan_cut December 4, 2008 8:45 am

    i also recall that a medical crutch was used in the previous cincy brawl.
    that and a certain warrior player had grabbed a cincy helmet like it was a trophy head and was running around the field with it raised high above his head.

    but what i mainly remember is that the cincy players were undisciplined all game long. they were swearing and talking trash with the fans by us from kickoff. you could just tell that something bad was brewing. they probably were talking even worse on the field. and then it all culminated with that hit on timmy’s leg.

    although these are 2 different teams with 2 different coaching staffs. the only people that were there previously were the fans, the ex-players that are now coaches like Chris Brown, and some of the assistant coaches.

    oh, i forgot to link to the news from yesterday. there’s the crutch shot (homey, i said crutch) that i remembered.

  69. las vegas December 4, 2008 8:45 am


    ten – four!

  70. d1島 December 4, 2008 9:01 am


    Just passing along knowledge that I got from right here. Thanks for the info Garret.

    I do think that how Cincy’s coach approaches this game will be crucial. They arrived yesterday where IIRC most teams come in on a Thursday. Hope they are taking an extra day of “Maitais and Mopeds”!

  71. Da Punchbowl Kid December 4, 2008 9:01 am

    Prayers for Kirstin and curveball and their ohana. May God’s grace be with you.

  72. d1島 December 4, 2008 9:02 am

    Bulla and Mrs. Bulla,

    Have a safe trip!
    Miss you guys at the TsaikoGates. 🙁

  73. Da Punchbowl Kid December 4, 2008 9:04 am

    Very sorry for the Advertiser employess who are affected by these lay offs. Thank you for your hard work these past years.

  74. Da Punchbowl Kid December 4, 2008 9:06 am

    Yo Bullas! Best to you and the Beast as you head out east.
    Can I get Beast!!??
    Can I get a Wildcats??!!

    Go Ryan!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

  75. Da Punchbowl Kid December 4, 2008 9:08 am

    Cincy shmincy! Warriors are gonna rock!

  76. matto December 4, 2008 9:08 am

    our thoughts and prayers go out to kristin and her husband… God be with you both in this trying time

  77. Da Punchbowl Kid December 4, 2008 9:16 am

    Oh yeah…

    A special mahalo out to homey, the tour guide/consultant extraordinaire.

  78. matto December 4, 2008 9:23 am

    I just saw this on yesterday’s post:

    “Defensive end Lamonte Nelms, who was arrested over the weekend an charged with criminal trespassing and resisting arrest, will make the trip to Hawaii but Kelly said he hasn’t decided yet if Nelms will play Saturday. “We’ll handle him internally,” Brian Kelly said. “He’ll be handled appropriately given the circumstances. We’re disappointed in Lamonte, but he’ll be handled consistently with the policies I have in place within our program.””

    WHA?! He was just ARRESTED and their program might STILL allow him to play this week? How was this guy even allowed to get on a plane with the rest of the team? Man, talk about screwed up priorities…

  79. (Jesse) James December 4, 2008 9:26 am

    Good morning Tsaikos….again, have to Esme today…

    Prayers out to Kristin, Curveball, and Sliders grammy…..like bulla said, prayers can be a powerful thing. God Bless during this difficult time…

    I remember that Cincy fight…and wasn’t there one again during the Hawaii Bowl against the other UH….????

    Okay gang, gotta go….talk laters….

  80. XxFaithxX December 4, 2008 9:32 am

    Pat Hills says no to Washington.


    Thanks to Isleboy

  81. Unkanesson December 4, 2008 9:36 am

    Good Morning Tsai-kos!!
    I’ve been in a crunch with work and other projects lately, so my lurking time has been curtailed, but I have been checking in, just no time to read ALL the posts and respond.
    Interesting speculation from AP about the bowl lineups. Northern Illinois in the Hawai’i Bowl?? I had to look them up. A 6-6 team in the MAC that didn’t beat a single team with a winning record this year! The average record of the teams they beat is 3-9!! How does a team like this even get CONSIDERED for a bowl game?? Heaven help the Hawai’i Bowl if that’s the best team they can get!!!

  82. matto December 4, 2008 9:39 am

    From Rivals.com…

    Cincinnati (10-2) at Hawaii (7-4), 11:30 p.m., ESPN2
    The buzz: Cincinnati already has won the Big East title and locked up a BCS bid. If the Bearcats are interested in the outcome of this game, they will win. If they mess around and act like they’re on vacation, though, they will lose.
    The line: Cincinnati by 7. | The pick: Cincinnati 27-17.

    Screw the line… bet UH. 🙂

  83. Bulla December 4, 2008 9:40 am

    to the Tsaikos,

    miss everyone from the T-Gates, but we can’t be in 2 places at 1 time.

    we’ll be cheering from Missoula MT for the Warriors to be victorious, as we hope for the Wildcats to be in the win column also. during this crazy season that everyone calls Christmas…..amidst the hustle and bustle, the stress and pressure, take a deep breath and remember the ‘purpose of Christmas’

    1. Celebration: the birth of Jesus

    2. Salvation: the greatest gift of all

    3. Reconcilliation: make things pono with family and friends, let go the opala, the truth shall set you free. let go the bondage of unforgiveness and live life to it’s fullest. forgiveness is not a sign of weakness, it is a sign of divine and intrinsic strength….let it go. i define grace like this….


    we love you guys, we love the Warriors, and we love our Wildcats


  84. Bulla December 4, 2008 9:42 am

    Watch for recruiting to change for Utah and Utah State…

    “The Utah Utes will have more football coaches to replace than just defensive coordinator Gary Andersen.
    Sources have confirmed Utah wide receivers coach Aaron Roderick and inside linebackers coach Kalani Sitake will follow Andersen to Utah.
    Andersen, who has been on the Utah coaching staff for 11 seasons, is being announced today as Utah State’s head coach.
    Roderick was Andersen’s offensive coordinator at SUU when Andersen coached the Thunderbirds in 2003 and Sitake coached SUU’s offensive line and tight ends.
    Contract details for Sitake and Roderick haven’t been finalized, but Andersen will be able to offer the two sizable increases, sources have confirmed.”

  85. Garret December 4, 2008 9:56 am

    Texas Tech DB (housemate of Michael Crabtree) was arrested by the DEA for dealingcocaine. He went to Texas Tech from CCSF–wasn’t that where Rolo coached? But Rolo might not have known him if he left CCSF before Rolo got there.

    A reserve Texas Tech defensive back was arrested by federal agents early Thursday and charged with dealing cocaine.

    Junior De’Shon Sanders, arrested in downtown Lubbock at 1:30 a.m. Thursday by agents of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, has been charged with felony possession with intent to distribute in excess of 50 grams of cocaine, DEA public affairs spokesman David Ausiello said Thursday.

    Texas Tech associate athletic director Chris Cook confirmed that Sanders is a housemate of All-American receiver Michael Crabtree and junior defensive end Brandon Sesay. Neither Crabtree nor Sesay has been implicated in the investigation of Sanders, a law enforcement official with knowledge of the case said.

    However, the official said, both players were in the apartment when DEA agents searched Sanders’ room in the middle of the night, following his arrest.

    The 22-year-old Sanders is a transfer from City College of San Francisco.

  86. A-House December 4, 2008 10:35 am

    I take exception to Ferd’s column this morning inferring that UH Football “bad reputation” because of the three(3) consecutive post-game brawls was initiated by Warrior players. Also, that mainland schools don’t want to play Hawaii because of this.


    Perhaps it’s the MAINLAND CULTURE that’s the root of the cause for believing that they ARE BETTER BECAUSE THEY ARE FROM THE MAINLAND. Something that maybe the coaching staff brain-washes players that to lose to Hawaii is a SHAME!!!!!!!

    If the inference was not what I read, then I apologize to Ferd for a poorly written column.

  87. 808flowmaster December 4, 2008 10:43 am

    Hawaii may not have started the brawls, but the quotes from players didn’t help promote a positive image, like this excerpt from the post-game story of the Cincinnati game:

    – If Cincinnati wins its final two games and becomes bowl eligible, there is a chance the Bearcats could face the Warriors in the Hawaii Bowl on Christmas Day. “I would love that,” Moenoa said. “We can just skip the game and go straight to the fight.”

    Hopefully, the Warriors can smash the Bearcats by at least 20 points, then there shouldn’t be any tension near the end of the game!

  88. Stretch December 4, 2008 11:04 am

    I don’t think that Mack would a fight to happen, even if Cinci starts it. He seems to have a lot more control over the team than in years past.

  89. Stretch December 4, 2008 11:05 am

    would allow….

  90. al December 4, 2008 11:15 am

    stretch….hamura saimin w/two orders bbq meat and two orders bbq chix and a slice of lilikoi chiffon pie sounds good about now.

  91. g-nalo December 4, 2008 11:16 am

    a quick good morning to all………and joining in prayer with the Tsaiko’s………speedy recovery Kristin.

    i would think Hawaii can win late with a clutch field goal, but this season the ice man……………………….well anyways, Hawaii will still win it close, makes for an even more exciting game.

  92. al December 4, 2008 11:17 am

    st….nice title for today’s blog. idk if the youngsters appreciate or can associate with the phrase so popular in the old days.

    har, har, har.

  93. Stretch December 4, 2008 11:20 am

    al – good idea, was wondering what I was going to eat for lunch today…

  94. Ronnie December 4, 2008 11:25 am

    Kristin and Curveball – please know that we are praying for you and your family.

  95. Rob25 December 4, 2008 11:34 am

    Many prayers out to Kristin and curveball as well as their ohana.

  96. Rob25 December 4, 2008 11:35 am

    Mmmmm Stretch! Now that I can handle…can you bring me back some?

  97. Garret December 4, 2008 11:50 am

    Note to Jason and the other 49ers fans here: Mike Martz is a rumored candidate for SDSU.

    San Francisco 49ers offensive coordinator Mike Martz declined to say whether he’s been contacted about the vacant head coaching position at San Diego State. So did the agent for former University of Minnesota coach Glen Mason.

    But because SDSU is demanding its search be conducted in secrecy, such nonanswers only have added to the increasing buzz that both are at least persons of interest for the Aztecs to replace Chuck Long. Sources have indicated they are.

    Martz, 57, previously coached at Mesa College and Madison High. His bio says he “spent many Saturday nights at San Diego Stadium watching Don Coryell’s San Diego State offensive powerhouses.” As head coach of the St. Louis Rams from 2000-05, his offenses often were prolific. This year, his 49ers are 4-8, leading to speculation about the future of the coaching staff.

  98. Garret December 4, 2008 11:52 am

    SDSU has gone ahead with the $160 increase in student fees to support their athletic program.

    San Diego State President Stephen Weber announced yesterday that he will increase a student activities fee by $160 a year – a move that will help cover chronic athletic department shortfalls of about $2.5 million annually.

    The increase also will help fund two new women’s sports teams (sand volleyball and lacrosse), helping SDSU meet California State University gender equity guidelines. The increase will be effective next fall and will push the annual activities fee from $190 to $350.

    It marks the second time since 2004 that Weber has implemented an increase of the activities fee. In 2004, he imposed an increase from $30 to $190 annually despite a student vote against it. At the time, proponents deemed it necessary to maintain SDSU’s Division I-A status. This time, the argument was much the same, and a campus advisory committee recommended it unanimously.

    SDSU athletics had been receiving about $2.5 million annually ($3.3 million last year) from presidential discretionary funds to make ends meet after deepening football revenue shortfalls. The fee increase will mean about $4.5 million more for athletics each year, replacing that discretionary funding, which was running out.

  99. 99club December 4, 2008 11:53 am

    Our thoughts and prayers go out to Kristen and Curveball during this tough time.

  100. jm2375 December 4, 2008 11:57 am

    Happy Thursday everybody!

    I noticed that no one has entered the contest for onarock’s extra ticket. Let’s go Tsai-kos, take an hour out of your day and go donate a pint if you can! No be scared!! You get refreshments afterwards and I found that it’s good for about a 2 lb temporary weight loss. 😀 I used to give regularly but can’t anymore.

    Ronnie – when do you arrive in town? Look forward to meeting you at the t-gate.

    When does ST finish with his class and can post a practice report?

  101. 99club December 4, 2008 12:17 pm

    I saw this article on ESPN dot com about Auburn’s search for a new coach and one line from the Athletic Director stood out:

    Jacobs said there were no financial constraints for the hire.

    I’m sure the agent representing the future coach will bring that one to the table!

  102. Rob25 December 4, 2008 12:20 pm

    jm2375 – Ronnie arrives in town at 8:30 pm tomorrow

  103. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc December 4, 2008 12:24 pm

    Let’s you and him fight! Wasn’t that a Three Stooges routine as well?

    Having a loved one deal with liver cancer is not easy. My dad called me on Valentine’s Day 1980 to tell me what was happening. However, we can only hope & pray that as much progress has been made in treating liver cancer as there has been om treating heart disease.

    Had a very realistic dream early this morning about Saturday’s game which UH won barely by the skin of their collective teeth. We were yelling our heads off and the team, coaches, and sideline spectators were dancing on the field when the cannon went off. I could clearly see everything. HPD was struggling to keep fans off the field and fights were breaking out all over.

    Am I normally prescient? Nope – however, this is a HUGE game for Cincinnati as they do not want to head off to a BCS bowl game having lost to a mid-major team. But I normally don’t dream sports so why I did so this time around is really weird.

    Before I forget – if additional tents, tables & chairs are needed for Saturday, we have enough to seat more than 100 under cover, but we would need help even to seat 25 – 30 folks because I can’t drive the (borrowed) truck we normally use and DrDoc’s not driving yet. Let me know if someone can help out with a truck and loading/unload and we’ll bring them.

    Back to work – have four appointments this afternoon.

  104. BG December 4, 2008 12:35 pm

    Curveball and Kristen

    Let me add my voice in an appeal to the Greatest Power for Kristen’s healing.

  105. A-House December 4, 2008 12:37 pm

    Kristin & Curveball:

    Our prayers for a full and speedy recovery for Kristin and your continued good health to help her in whatever way possible.

  106. BG December 4, 2008 12:39 pm


    After all these years, I still would like to get Jared Flint’s autograph on a picture that I took of Jared, Rolo, and Matt McBriar. Those rare moments that I run into Rolo, I always forget to ask if he stays in contact with Jared. Do you have any clue how I could get in touch with him?

  107. Loa December 4, 2008 12:39 pm

    afternoon gang!

    my thoughts and prayers for Kristin and the Curveball ohana

  108. A-House December 4, 2008 12:42 pm

    Wassup Doc:

    Like your dream very much – especially about UH winning and not so much about the “fighting”.

    But if that occurs, it will be the Cincy players who starts it because they lost to UH.

    Some day the “shame” mainland mentality of losing to UH will, hopefully, disappear because the Warriors will continue to win including many victories over the top teams in all BCS conferences. That, I hope, will be in my life time.

  109. Stephen Tsai December 4, 2008 12:50 pm

    Mack again confirmed that the players will meet in the middle of the field Saturday night.
    It would be classy if UH also recognized the Cincinnati seniors, too.

  110. Ralph December 4, 2008 12:55 pm

    wow JM2375 with a white shirt in the rain zone- she’ll be ready for a wet t -shirt contest. you go girl! represent the tsaikos.

  111. J-Dog December 4, 2008 12:56 pm

    Wasn’t Jared Flint’s jersey number 20-something?

  112. Loa December 4, 2008 12:56 pm

    ST – thats good news, i’m with you on recognizing the opponent’s seniors too, i think i’ve seen this done at another senior night, was it mens basketball?

  113. lxsgs3 December 4, 2008 12:58 pm

    Does anyone know the status of Kealoha Pilares? Sorry if i missed it.

  114. MissingUHFootball December 4, 2008 1:00 pm

    Interesting to hear what Stephen said about urging HF to make a statement. I remember the Cincinnati game and those couple of years when there were so many fights. I never liked the AD and Coach at Cincinnati at the time. Though we were not completely free of fault, Cincinnati made it sound like it was all our fault that Cincinnati did nothing wrong and we were fully responsible for everything. All night Cinci were taking cheap shots at our players and disrespecting us. If I remember correctly it was a Cinci player that was swinging his helmet like a weapon. I really wished HF came out and defended the university since they made us into the villains and Cinici the angels.

  115. MissingUHFootball December 4, 2008 1:06 pm

    A-House, I agree. We need to soon lose that rep as the “shame” mainland mentality. I think this program is on good footing now, not like when we had roller coaster years where the program was either really bad or fairly decent. We should get some respect as a program.

    To me it would be a quality win or not a bad loss for team to come from the mainland and play in Hawaii. Everyone now knows that Hawaii is a tough place to place and were are a quality team now. So to get a win or to loose in Hawaii shouldn’t carry with it shame.

    I guess losing to Appalachian State isn’t embarrassing. 🙂

  116. MissingUHFootball December 4, 2008 1:21 pm

    Sorry for hogging the blog with 3 posts in a row, but this is my last one.

    I am really hoping that we beat Cincinnati this weekend. I like to see how much face saving is going to happen from the BCS. Will Cinci get knocked out of the top 25 of the coaches poll which I think should happen if they loose to our unranked team. If they do get knocked out, how embarrassing would it be for an unranked team to get an automatic birth into the BCS and be behind 4, possibly 5 non-bcs teams in the BCS standings.

    I can hear the cries of controversy.

  117. FloridaTed December 4, 2008 1:21 pm


    That’s a nice Aloha idea, but don’t the Cinci players have to catch a plain to make it to their BCS party? That’s a big deal for them, just like Hawaii, it’s their first one and they’re planning a big hoopla with the fans, kind of like we did.

  118. FloridaTed December 4, 2008 1:25 pm


    That’s exactly why you can be assured of Cinci bringing their A-Game, at least try to. We will get their very best shot and if we win, it will be truly earned.

  119. A-House December 4, 2008 1:32 pm


    Your last statement may take some offense by Michigan players, but it should not as, on that day/night, the better team won.

    There are times when I reflect on the 2008 Sugar Bowl loss and say Georgia would have beaten any team they faced that night as they were, IMHO, the #1 college team in the country and should have played Ohio State for the National Championship. It just happened to be Hawaii. Thus, it makes me feel better, tho’ I would have preferred a closer final score or even a win, that Hawaii played the #1 team in the country. It makes me proud to be from Hawaii.

    Wonder what the “pundits” would have written in that scenario?

    Unfortunately for us, we were given a very small window, time wise, to return to the buses and was not there to sing Hawaii Pono’i. Friends say that many, if not all, of the Hawaii fans shed tears and I probably would have too! So proud to be from Hawaii.

  120. FloridaTed December 4, 2008 1:34 pm


    How are you and yours?

    I think the shame factor has pretty much gone by the way side already and is replaced with a slight fear factor for teams coming here.

    I think it is fairly well established that Hawaii is a tough place to play by now. Many of the Mainland pundits are often heard talking about it, ergo, we’re only 7 1/2 point underdogs to the Big East Champs. At the early part of the season that would have been 24.

    The embarrassment for Cinci would be more in the fact that they’re desperate for national recognition and couldn’t afford to lose to ANY unranked team.

  121. Woebot December 4, 2008 1:43 pm

    UH needs to recruit this kid.

    Cody Paul

  122. MissingUHFootball December 4, 2008 1:44 pm


    I apologize if Michigan Players may take offense. I added that statement because I remember that Michigan didn’t want to play us that year and it so happened that was the year they lost to them.

    I agree Georgia was the best team in the country when we played them. They really did outplay us. If we had a few plays go our way it might have been closer. I also think sometimes nights just don’t go your way. I remember when we pummeled BYU the night that Ty Detmer won his heisman. It just wasn’t his night.

    Talking about Hawaii Pono’i brings back chicken skin moments. That whole time after the game will go down as one of my greatest UH Football moments. I feel kind of bad that we kind of interrupted Georgia’s well deserved time in the spotlight, We stood and applauded they players for their effort and for the wonderful season they gave us, they thanked us for supporting them, and we all sung Hawaii Pono’i. Talk about Hawaii pride being shown.

  123. Rob25 December 4, 2008 2:03 pm

    Aww A-House you missed “Hawaii Ponoi!”

    MissingUHFootball is right…that has to be my most favorite moment ever for UH football. It was surreal the feeling in the SuperDome having all those Hawaii fans do that…I love watching it on YouTube.

    I also feel that Georgia was a great team last year. My one question is how much better would we have done if some of those non-calls by the refs had been called. They were sanctioned for it, so it’s not like it didn’t happen. Just makes you wonder if Hawaii would have gotten some momentum going…hard to fight the battle when you’re going uphill the whole time.

  124. Rob25 December 4, 2008 2:06 pm

    I also loved the double overtime win against Fresno State. That stadium was rockin’. The kids thought that it was coming down for sure!

  125. Kekoa December 4, 2008 2:30 pm

    Just dropping in with an update on Kristin. Still in ICU as the staff at Pali Momi work to keep her stable. No improvement since yesterday. BP still too low to allow dialysis treatment.

    Curveball is very happy to report that he has received many email wishes with prayers for her recovery. He was able to read them to her this morning. It made a difference. He wants to thank all who took the time to write. I told him that there are many more on the blog awaiting his return home from the hospital today. He is truly grateful.

  126. (Jesse) James December 4, 2008 2:36 pm

    Again prayers for Kristing and Curveball…..

    Rob25 – I also liked the UW game last year when Willie K sang Hawaii Ponoi and the entire crowd sang it loud and proud on national television. Now if they would only sing the national anthem that way as well….

  127. (Jesse) James December 4, 2008 2:37 pm


  128. Long Time UH Fan December 4, 2008 2:47 pm


    You have many friends amongst the Tsaikos and we are all pulling for you, Kristin and your ohana. Our best wishes, thoughts and prayers go out to all of you.

  129. kbos December 4, 2008 2:47 pm

    So glad to hear about Wie Sung Mi’s comeback at Q-school. She is clearly the most gifted and talented player in the field especially if you look at potential. Finally, someone has given her the right advice about qualifying for the LPGA. So if she makes it, and it looks that way, Michelle can pick and choose which tournament to play and not be labeled a sponsor’s choice. You go girl!

  130. Long Time UH Fan December 4, 2008 2:48 pm


    Actually the heading should be ” Eh, no hold me back, ah”… 😉

  131. Kekoa December 4, 2008 2:49 pm

    I love it how the Tsaiko Ohana responds to internal crisis.
    From fearless leader, to last soul on the blog “We Are Tsai-ko!”

    I’m so proud of all of you. Give yourselves the rest of the day off!

  132. Long Time UH Fan December 4, 2008 2:53 pm


    Good luck to the Wildcats as they take on the Grizzlies; hope Ryan is good to go!

  133. Rob25 December 4, 2008 2:55 pm

    Kekoa…you couldn’t tell me that at 7:45 am 🙄

    On a serious note, you are so right about the regulars on this blog. I’m proud to call you my friends!

  134. Mad Dog December 4, 2008 2:56 pm

    A Cincinnati reporter feels the game will be a cakewalk. I hope he’s wrong. I’m hoping for good, hard hitting game free of personal foul penalties. A game where, in the end, both sides can meet in the middle of the battlefield to shake hands, and recognize the hard effort put forth by all of their senior players.

    Whether you’re watching from the island, or watching from home in the wee hours of the morning, this should be a pretty good tune-up for UC’s bowl game. …
    This could be a game where players that didn’t get as much time during the Big East season, finally get some time in a game that really doesn’t affect UC’s bowl standing.


    I wish the Cincinnati fans well at their BCS bowl game. Our Sugar Bowl was a great memory for me. I hope they, as first time BCS bowl gamers, have an enjoyable time too.

  135. Rob25 December 4, 2008 2:56 pm

    (J)J – I love listening to Willie K sing! That was great too! How about Amy this past game…she is awsome! Sista can blow!

  136. Long Time UH Fan December 4, 2008 2:57 pm


    # 131: Ditto that!

  137. Stretch December 4, 2008 3:03 pm

    December 4th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
    Kekoa…you couldn’t tell me that at 7:45 am

    oohh, have you been “busy” at work today??!!?? hahahaha

  138. Maverick December 4, 2008 3:06 pm

    Let’s all sing it….

    “Baby, If you ever wondered,
    wondered, whatever became of me.
    I’m living on the air in Cincinatti.
    Cincinatti, WKRP.
    WKRP in Cincinatti”


  139. (Jesse) James December 4, 2008 3:11 pm

    Rob…I won’t touch that last statement you made…I know homey might have something to say about that….LMAO

  140. Rob25 December 4, 2008 3:22 pm

    If I look at Cincy’s schedule:

    Thu., Aug. 28 vs. Eastern Kentucky Cincinnati, Ohio W, 40-7

    FCS team

    Sat., Sep. 6 at Oklahoma Norman, OK L, 52-26

    Good loss

    Sat., Sep. 20 vs. Miami (OH) – Band Day Cincinnati, OH W, 45-20

    Only two wins all season

    Sat., Sep. 27 at Akron Akron, OH W, 17-15

    Losing record 5-7 and they barely beat them

    Fri., Oct. 3 at Marshall Huntington, WV W, 33-10

    Another losing record 4-8

    Sat., Oct. 11 vs. Rutgers – Homecoming * Cincinnati, OH W, 13-10

    Barely won, Rutgers has five losses this season

    Sat., Oct. 25 at Connecticut * East Hartford, CT L, 40-16

    UConn is 7-4

    Thu., Oct. 30 vs. USF – Halloween * Cincinnati, OH W, 24-10

    USF 7-4 record

    Sat., Nov. 8 at West Virginia Morgantown, W. Va. W, 26-23 (OT)

    Nice win WV will finish with at least a winning record. They have 4 losses.

    Fri., Nov. 14 at Louisville * Louisville, KY W, 28-20

    Lousiville will be 6-6 at best.

    Sat., Nov. 22 vs. Pittsburgh – Ring of Red Cincinnati, OH W, 28-21

    Good win

    Sat., Nov. 29 vs. Syracuse – Senior Day * Cincinnati, OH

    Syracuse only has three wins

    I’m thinking that they have some nice wins, but they aren’t unbeatable. Hopefully our team will be able to excute and put them on their back paws!

  141. Rob25 December 4, 2008 3:26 pm

    Stretch – I’m doing “Marketing.” I can do that legitimately because I work in market news for our department.

  142. BG December 4, 2008 3:42 pm

    When looking at the Cincy schedule, it’s a good idea to note when their quarterback injuries took place. I think we’ll see that some of their lackluster wins/notable losses came when their QB’s were hurt.

    Not saying that they should be better than their ranking…just that taking that into consideration can shed a different light on Cincy. Actually, I don’t really care…it’s all going to play out on the field and I’m backing our boys all the way!


  143. oxymoron December 4, 2008 3:46 pm

    Woebot: the coaches already know about Cody Paul, they’ve already seen that video…as have most other college programs nation-wide. Not to rain on your parade, but that’s kinda old news. I’m sure many of the Tsai-ko’s haven’t seen it so mahalo for the mention.

    Cincy is a bunch of girl scouts with an urban thug mentality. They started the fight and got the snot beaten out of them by Chris Brown, Vince Manuwai and the boys. Bad move to call out the local broddahs! The difference between Cincy and our Rainbow Dancers is our RD got skills. And the RD are better looking too. Okay, if you wanna get specific, the RD don’t smell either. And I’m sure the RD look better in swimsuits. They will fly in, take their lumps and go home.

  144. oxymoron December 4, 2008 3:50 pm

    Oh, and big time up’s on the article about Solly and Adam. The one thing most people don’t realize is that both are even better people than they are football players. Both are genuinely humble, good kids. They leave big shoes to fill, for sure.

  145. jm2375 December 4, 2008 3:58 pm

    Hey Ronnie – IS IT SATURDAY YET?

    OK, time to shut down the computer and go home. See ya in a couple of hours. 🙂

  146. Kekoa December 4, 2008 4:03 pm

    Rob25 ~ Good research on the Cincy season game by game. You do make a valid point about their SOS. Isn’t it odd that when it applies to other teams, it’s never mentioned. When our Warriors were making their BCS run, we were pinged for it by everybody on TV except the Muppets!

  147. santosh December 4, 2008 4:05 pm

    Hold Stephen back…….he is going Tsaiko!!!!!!!!

  148. kama krab December 4, 2008 4:05 pm


    That was a good one. In about 10 years will see how good this kid is then we can go after him.

  149. kama krab December 4, 2008 4:07 pm


    You got mail.

  150. Kekoa December 4, 2008 4:09 pm

    Ok..ok..Miss Piggy might have referred to us as animal rights abusers because of our targeting Kalua pork.

  151. Rob25 December 4, 2008 4:11 pm


    Grutza was out after the Oklahoma loss to a broken leg. Pike came in for Miami and Akron but injured his non throwing arm. Anderson, the freshman, was in for Marshall, Rutgers and part of UConn. It’s been Tony Pike ever since.

    Pitt and WV were good wins and Oklahoma was a good loss, but the rest were marginal wins. The freshman QB played against a 4-8 Marshall and Rutgers that was 1-4 before that loss. In the UConn game Pike played half the game.

    It is one position and I don’t know how many other significant injuries they may have had on the team. Is this a mostly veteran team?

  152. kama krab December 4, 2008 4:13 pm

    Saturdays game will be a test of how far we have come throughout the season. Hopefully the boyz are ready because the Kitty Cats are coming here to make a point.

    And by the way Kekoa you got mail.

  153. kama krab December 4, 2008 4:15 pm

    Sorry Kekoa for double posting.

    My bad.

  154. Kazz December 4, 2008 4:17 pm

    Anyone still shaking their head that the Big East officials are supposedly traveling (or traveled) on the SAME plane/flight as the Bearcats?

    Something is pilau east of Manoa!!!!!! 👿

  155. Kazz December 4, 2008 4:23 pm

    Stephen Tsai:

    December 4th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
    Mack again confirmed that the players will meet in the middle of the field Saturday night.
    It would be classy if UH also recognized the Cincinnati seniors, too.

    That should depend on how they enter OUR field amongst other things.

    FACT: That F’N program, fans, and players as a whole does NOT respect our program, people, and culture.

  156. Kazz December 4, 2008 4:25 pm

    Capitol -ist/WassupDoc:

    December 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    Had a very realistic dream early this morning about Saturday’s game which UH won barely by the skin of their collective teeth. We were yelling our heads off and the team, coaches, and sideline spectators were dancing on the field when the cannon went off. I could clearly see everything. HPD was struggling to keep fans off the field and fights were breaking out all over.


  157. Mad Dog December 4, 2008 4:28 pm

    We can always invite the ‘cats to join in our senior celebration. If they stay on the field, fine. I will applaud the senior cats. If not, they can go to the locker room while I applaud our senior Warriors.

  158. kama krab December 4, 2008 4:28 pm


    Looks like the Kitties are making some friends on that flight. I think there going to need it.

  159. al December 4, 2008 4:53 pm

    cmon kazz. be nice.

    they did that at the volleyball finale last week and i do believe that is done annually also with the basketball team.

    no forget….inspite of the fact they are the opponents for the evening, they are somebody’s son.

  160. FloridaTed December 4, 2008 4:55 pm

    Let’s be realistic, Tsaikos, Cinci is a very good team, but they are certainly no Florida. Off course our boys have to play very well, there won’t be any room for marginal play or silly errors, but we have a very good chance to win this game, if the Warriors will play the way they’ve practiced this week (Kekoa’s report).

    Personally, I really expect a win. I want that feather in our cap.

  161. Jason December 4, 2008 5:02 pm

    I have always thought that honoring the opposing team’s seniors is one of the classiest things that we do here. Especially if some of the players were local kids.

  162. madeinhawaii December 4, 2008 5:10 pm

    There is no way these Big East Officials can be in the same plane if Cincinnati loses the game. They’d be murdered. So something just doesn’t feel right.

  163. Darren December 4, 2008 5:16 pm

    I don’t mind recognizing the other team’s seniors…as long as it doesn’t take away from our guys and the recognition is kept as brief as possible….then, yeah, I too think it’s pretty cool.

    I wonder if Cinci will be bringing over a lot of fans. That’d be two big trips for their fans in this game and their BCS game. There sure were a lot of Wazoo folks last week.

    Flori-dated (that’s the way I always read your name): Our rep within the CFB world has taken a pretty good beating over the course of the past year. A win against a BCS bowl-bound team would really help to show that we shouldn’t be considered a punchline to any mid-major BCS jokes. I was getting pretty tired of those. There’s been some recent recognition that we’re decent and going to a bowl game, but I don’t know about everyone else…I think we’re more than just “decent”. If we play the way we’re capable of playing in all three phases of the game, then we should be leaving the stadium tomorrow night with a win. I’d really like to see it all come together….tomorrow night would be the perfect time.

  164. Kazz December 4, 2008 5:23 pm


    As long as they behave on the field and in the stands, everything will be fine.

    I have NEVER felt easy about a highly ranked team and some of their fans coming into our house with their noses pointed highly in the air.

  165. Kazz December 4, 2008 5:25 pm

    Are the Bearcats staying at Turtle Bay or somewhere in Waikiki?

  166. Kazz December 4, 2008 5:28 pm

    My friend has a theory.

    -Visiting teams that stay at Turtle Bay come to play to win due to less distractions out there.

    -Visiting teams that stay in Waikiki come to party.

  167. Kazz December 4, 2008 5:30 pm




  168. brew808 December 4, 2008 5:39 pm

    I hope the Bearcats do lodge at Turtle Bay and get to experience (pre-game) the big-surf in person… each and everyone of them… body surf baby! 😆

    Pound dem Bearcats! 😀 😯 😆

  169. brew808 December 4, 2008 5:42 pm

    Curveball – My best wishes and prayers to you and your ‘ohana. ((((((Kristin))))))!!!

  170. Jason December 4, 2008 5:43 pm

    Kazz: Hardly ground-breaking theory. 😀

  171. 808flowmaster December 4, 2008 5:45 pm

    I agree with everyone that it’s total BS if the Big East officials are flying with the Bearcats. It’s already bad that it’s a Big East crew working the game. If anything, they should have a non-partisan crew like Pac-10 or Big 12 do the game. Most of them aren’t working since there aren’t that many games happening this Saturday.

    You know for sure that the Big East officials have been “highly encouraged” to ensure Cincinnati goes into their BCS bowl game with as high a ranking as possible to avoid further negative commentary on how weak their conference is for a so-called BCS conference.

  172. Kazz December 4, 2008 5:50 pm


    December 4th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
    Kazz: Hardly ground-breaking theory.

    Well, in my defense I never paid attention to where teams stayed when they came here, but I did always believe that they all come here expecting an easy win.

    Except for our conference opponents of course.

    I think this is where I differ from most fans that either feel confident we’ll win no matter what or some fans that feel we will loose.

    I always just get angry and cynical towards the other team (non-conference opponents) in regards to what they really think of our program, our state, and our people.

    I guess I take some gamedays too personally…

    HA! I wouldn’t want it any other way!!! :mrgreen:

  173. brew808 December 4, 2008 5:52 pm

    ST – Let me add my kudos to you for your excellent story of “da LB bruddahs!”

    Like many other fans, I truly admire Adam Leonard and Solomon Elimimian, as players, student-athletes, team leaders, and role-models. Thank you ST for helping us appreciate them as individuals, and as close friends. 😆

    And Thank You! to Adam & Solly for these past few, memorable years. Wishing you all the best in your future endeavors! 😀

    PS. And finish school! 😯

  174. brew808 December 4, 2008 6:03 pm

    Garret, Shannon, las vegas, 702WN, Re: #39 –

    Wasn’t rob25 going to be there around then too? Or was that near X-mas? Oh – I suppose you might have to modify your menu if she joins you…. 😀 😯 😆

    What happened to diesel? 🙄

  175. FloridaTed December 4, 2008 6:07 pm

    I surely hope that these Big East Refs are the last and final parting gift from our dearly beloved Herman Frazier, grrrrrr…..

  176. wafan December 4, 2008 6:11 pm

    In my best moke-like voice (which is not, at all) . . .

    Eh! Mises Curveball. Geh mo beta mo fasa. Da Warrias neeju fo cheeaum on. Cawz us stay cheeaeng fo you!


    Loads of prayers and wishes for you and your family.

  177. Rob25 December 4, 2008 6:13 pm

    Yes, brewman…I will be in there from Dec 29th until Jan 2nd. The kids and I are scheduled to see Mystere on the 30th. Not sure what I’ll be doing the rest of the time. I am looking to maybe hook up with the A House family who will be there also.

    Wait…is there a bowl game that UH is in during that time. Only kidding…just funny that so many Tsaikos are going to be there at the same time.

  178. Rob25 December 4, 2008 6:16 pm

    I think that it may be fun to watch a game in a Sports Book on New Year’s Day!

    What was I saying before…like I don’t know what to do in that town! Shop, of course.

  179. wafan December 4, 2008 6:17 pm

    F-Ted . . .

    ” . . . dearly beloved . . .”???

    I wonder if there is even one person in Hawai’i who supports UH sports that is able to honestly say they miss the buffoon.

    After all, when all is said and done, the fact is he remains the worst AD in UH history.


  180. Rob25 December 4, 2008 6:17 pm

    OK gotta go pick up some forward from soccer practice.

    Check in laters…or tomorrow.


  181. wafan December 4, 2008 6:20 pm

    Shucks. I will not be in Las Vegas during that time — in Aneheim instead. But, I will be in Las Vegas next Friday through Saturday night. Anyone else there?

    Las Vegas (the person) will you be available?

  182. madeinhawaii December 4, 2008 6:22 pm

    Hey? The refs can party before the game, eh?

    Maybe some heavy duty maitais.. a luau… couple of ducolax hangover pills..

  183. brew808 December 4, 2008 6:26 pm

    wafan – THIS weekend, or NEXT weekend? I think I saw that whitey and mctruck are will be there THIS weekend – altho, the East Texas guy is being bashful. 🙄 😯 😆

  184. wafan December 4, 2008 6:40 pm

    Brew . . .

    I will be there NEXT weekend.

    Tomorrow I have a seven hour meeting. Talk about numb-butt!

  185. brew808 December 4, 2008 6:43 pm

    wafan…. always gotta be… different…. 🙄 😯 😆

  186. wafan December 4, 2008 6:44 pm

    Go Wildcats!

    Flay the other ‘cats!

  187. wafan December 4, 2008 6:45 pm

    What happened to my comment?

  188. wafan December 4, 2008 6:46 pm

    HA! There it is.

    I wonder if flay was the concern. Oh well.

    The oddities continue.

  189. wafan December 4, 2008 6:47 pm

    Yep. That was the word.

  190. wafan December 4, 2008 6:48 pm

    Or . . . maybe not.

  191. brew808 December 4, 2008 6:51 pm

    Okay – I know you guys already discussed the U-Sin-n-See “bearcats” and that a bearcat (civit-cat) is some sort of sloth-like, tree-dwelling mammal. But if you change just one letter, you could readily convince Koakane into becoming a huge, beer-cat fan! 😀 😯 😆

  192. brew808 December 4, 2008 6:54 pm

    Test – I want to dine at one of chef Bobby Flay‘s restaurants. 😯

  193. brew808 December 4, 2008 6:56 pm

    No problemo Mr. (soon-to-be) numb-butt! 😆

  194. wafan December 4, 2008 7:00 pm

    Why might it “take some time” for my comment to appear? Is there another contest besides the ticket that requires a bleeding?

    If I am the only one to donate blood (I did this week when the vampires and leeches came to campus) how can I use the ticket? Does it include r/t airfare from SEA/HNL?

    Come on you guys! Bleed a bit!!! That 6″ needle does not hurt once you pass out. Nah. It is not so bad once they strap you onto that table just like they use for lethal injections.


    I am not helping, am I. Sorry!

  195. wafan December 4, 2008 7:02 pm

    Brew . . .

    Better a numb-butt than a butt-head.


    ‘course, I have been accused of being both.

  196. brew808 December 4, 2008 7:09 pm


  197. Jason December 4, 2008 7:10 pm

    Are we sure that koakane isn’t the zookeeper (who) is very fond of rum? 😀

    Speaking of which, zebras (that is, referees) are reactionary … 😛

  198. brew808 December 4, 2008 7:14 pm

    Wasn’t there some sort of mohito party? 😯

  199. Stretch December 4, 2008 7:26 pm


    Looks like Lingle will have to replace 6 BOR members. I hope they will be replaced by people who are a little more knowledgeable about the conference that UH plays in.

  200. las vegas December 4, 2008 7:31 pm

    WAFAN, I’m always here, I live here

  201. brew808 December 4, 2008 7:32 pm

    Hot Dog contest – Round Two! 😆

  202. las vegas December 4, 2008 7:32 pm


    What happened to diesel?

    From what 702WN said, he lives on Oahu now

  203. las vegas December 4, 2008 7:33 pm

    Wafan vs Shadow?

  204. las vegas December 4, 2008 7:34 pm

    OR Craig vs Wafan?

  205. FloridaTed December 4, 2008 7:35 pm

    wafan (179),

    Not only was he the worst ever in UH history, I think he was the worst in the entire NCAA history.

  206. las vegas December 4, 2008 7:35 pm

    Brew vs Wafan?

  207. las vegas December 4, 2008 7:38 pm

    F Ted
    HF’s badness transcends the all incompetents since the beginning of written history

  208. las vegas December 4, 2008 7:40 pm

    even worse than when the Mayans played a form of football with human heads

  209. las vegas December 4, 2008 7:41 pm

    so here I am and everyone leaves?
    Shades of my entire childhood…..sniff

  210. brew808 December 4, 2008 7:42 pm

    Howzit las vegas! R U still … stoned??? 😯 🙄 😆

  211. las vegas December 4, 2008 7:46 pm

    Hi Brew,
    Nah, all clean now
    Thax for asking

  212. jm2375 December 4, 2008 7:46 pm

    Howzit brew & lv!!

  213. las vegas December 4, 2008 7:47 pm

    Hi jm2375, I saw your pic the other day

  214. brew808 December 4, 2008 7:49 pm

    :mrgreen: ribbit! :mrgreen:

  215. brew808 December 4, 2008 7:50 pm

    … spooky… 😯 😯 😯

  216. las vegas December 4, 2008 7:50 pm

    kaeru wa gaa gaa

  217. las vegas December 4, 2008 7:51 pm

    man it loads slow!

  218. las vegas December 4, 2008 7:53 pm

    yup, I was told the same thing by the school board, they said I was “special”

  219. jm2375 December 4, 2008 7:55 pm

    lv – and …..? 🙄

  220. las vegas December 4, 2008 7:56 pm

    get to watch UH football for free this week, those $12.95 fees build up over the season

  221. brew808 December 4, 2008 7:56 pm

    You ARE special! 😆

  222. FloridaTed December 4, 2008 7:57 pm

    las vegas,

    The man is long gone and his crap still smells up our landscape. Wonder how many more of his brilliant acts are still in the manure?

  223. las vegas December 4, 2008 7:58 pm

    uhh,umm absolutely Beautiful!! yeah that’s the ticket cute as can be woo hooo!
    slowly backs away

  224. las vegas December 4, 2008 8:01 pm

    Thank you
    Kaiser High thought so highly of me, I got to ride in a short yellow bus and wear a helmet.going to school!

  225. brew808 December 4, 2008 8:02 pm

    … spooky… 😯 😯 😯

  226. las vegas December 4, 2008 8:04 pm

    just kidding, I thought that you were very attractive.
    really, have you ever seen me lie or stretch the truth?
    thought not.

    please don’t hit me

  227. brew808 December 4, 2008 8:06 pm

    Wooohooo…. the SJ Sharks win… again! They’re now 22-3-1! That’s an awesome record in any sport! 😀 😯 😆

  228. brew808 December 4, 2008 8:07 pm

    … spooky… 😯 😯 😯

  229. jm2375 December 4, 2008 8:08 pm

    lv – where’s da slippah? hehehe 😀

    FT – Jim Bolla is still around!!!

    OK guys, no one’s entered the contest yet. WTH? Go give blood!

  230. las vegas December 4, 2008 8:09 pm

    SJ Sharks?
    what is that ? Waterpolo?

  231. chawan_cut December 4, 2008 8:09 pm

    tonight’s news

  232. brew808 December 4, 2008 8:11 pm

    da wheels on the bus go round and round….
    …round and round….round and kerplunk, kerplunk!!!

    Mr. las vegas… will you please stop playing
    around and get out from under the bus!

  233. las vegas December 4, 2008 8:12 pm

    jm2375, the slippah? thats not too bad, the working girls use stilettos, poke uku holes in your head

  234. las vegas December 4, 2008 8:13 pm

    my present body actually is shaped like a spare tire

  235. brew808 December 4, 2008 8:14 pm

    frozen… water-polo…. 😀

    Geeez, wish we could get some news on giant, agile OL guys joining the Warrior ‘ohana! 😯

  236. brew808 December 4, 2008 8:16 pm

    Whooooh…. I thought you were going to say, “like a bus“! 😆

  237. jm2375 December 4, 2008 8:19 pm

    brew – you betta watch it. lv gonna slap you around like he used to do in da sumo ring. 😀

  238. las vegas December 4, 2008 8:20 pm

    the other day I was at the city pool and people kept pushing me back in everytime I tried to climb out.
    They even called GreenPeace to save the beached whale, I almost drowned.
    They wanted to keep the blowhole above water, my okole dried out.

  239. jm2375 December 4, 2008 8:21 pm

    lv – it’s a lead slippah! 🙄

  240. d1島 December 4, 2008 8:22 pm

    If I can “bus” in here….

    Anyone know the answer to Kazz’ question about where Cincy is staying? Any word on their practices?
    They’ve been in town for about 30 hours already and no sightings?

  241. las vegas December 4, 2008 8:22 pm

    I neva gon wear black shorts to the pool again, the kids kept throwing “Free Willy” raw sardines

  242. brew808 December 4, 2008 8:24 pm

    😆 lv … you’re awesome! 😆

  243. las vegas December 4, 2008 8:26 pm

    how could a dainty little flower like you wield a lead slipper.
    you would look much better with a whip

  244. las vegas December 4, 2008 8:30 pm

    in fact, I gotten so fat that I now have my own area code

  245. las vegas December 4, 2008 8:32 pm

    man, I’ve gotten so fat my belly button makes an echo

  246. Jason December 4, 2008 8:32 pm

    brew808: What happened with the Barry Melrose experiment in Tampa? That didn’t last too long … 😛

    And … that’s all I know about hockey. I was in a fantasy league one year with friends on the Mainland. Knew very little about hockey, other than what I learned watching SportsCenter and the Mighty Ducks movies as a kid. It was a points league, and I just got beat out for the championship on the last day of the season. All my friends were shocked that I had finished such a close 2nd … 😀

  247. las vegas December 4, 2008 8:34 pm

    I’m probably the only guy so fat, I was baptized in Sea World

  248. Kekoa December 4, 2008 8:34 pm

    Curveball has returned home with no improvement in Kristin’s status. He remains hopeful, and is just too tired to do much more than eat a little dinner and get some rest.

    Good night all.

  249. las vegas December 4, 2008 8:39 pm

    once I was swimming off of Molokai beach when a State Survey vessel tried to make me the ninth island

  250. las vegas December 4, 2008 8:40 pm

    continued best wishes to the Curveball family and especially Kristen.

  251. jm2375 December 4, 2008 8:40 pm

    lv – *rim shot* 😀

  252. brew808 December 4, 2008 8:44 pm

    Who’s Barry Melrose? All I know are the SJ Sharks!!! And I still don’t know anything about hockey! Gotta love the black & teal!!! 😀 😯 😆

  253. las vegas December 4, 2008 8:46 pm

    I went to the supermarket by myself today and got
    myself cereal and lo-fat milk, forgot that I’m lactose intolerant.
    on the plus side my innards should be pretty clean by now.
    Everything has come out in the past hour.

  254. las vegas December 4, 2008 8:47 pm

    Isn’t Barry Melrose the 70yo singer on American Idol?

  255. brew808 December 4, 2008 8:49 pm

    lv – How can the Mrs. not adore you? 😀 Oh yeah, lactose intolerance…. 😀 😯 😆

  256. las vegas December 4, 2008 8:51 pm

    we have spray clorox, thank god!

  257. las vegas December 4, 2008 8:54 pm

    even the dogs seemed offended
    Mrs LV locked herself in the bedroom, hyperventilating

  258. brew808 December 4, 2008 8:56 pm

    The media panicked! Global warming!?! Oceanside communities scrambled! People evacuated to high-ground as the oceans level suddenly rose by 4 feet. Fortunately, the crisis subsided once the Tsaiko swim party ended at the beach. 😆

    Next, the earthquakes started to build as the Tsaiko volleyball game started…. 😀 😯 😆

  259. SteveM December 4, 2008 8:58 pm

    Hmmmm, I hope jm2375 can meet las vegas when he’s here in February. I can picture them sitting at Genji’s, both so quiet and shy… 😆

  260. Garret December 4, 2008 8:59 pm

    Feature story on Samson’s hair.

    Dolphins center Samson Satele hasn’t cut his hair since enrolling at Hawaii in 2002. That’s six years of boycotting Supercuts and, surely, having some really bad hair days. My in-depth analysis and X’s and O’s breakdown at games has noticed Satele wearing his hair in a ponytail this year instead of the free-falling, cascade-looking, Hawaii-remembering look of last year.

    Or, as Satele calls it, “The Polamalu style,” as in Steeler safety Troy Polamalu.

    Why the change?

    “Last year against the Jets I was trying to pull when Dewayne Robertson grabbed my hair,” he said. “It’s hanging below my helmet and he just yanked on it. It hurt. I was running one way and all of a sudden I was jerked back by my hair the other way.

    “In the film, you can see me turning and yelling at him.”

  261. Garret December 4, 2008 9:01 pm

    The 49ers tried to sneak a WR that Miami liked through waivers, and Miami claimed them. Now they have to face Miami in a little more than a week. If they had waited a few more days, Miami wouldn’t have been able to claim him!

    Hannon is one of the few receivers – behind Brandon London of course – the Dolphins decision makers have had their eyes on since the exhibition season. I’m told he’s got what they like: size and speed.

    View his signing as an early tryout for 2009.

    There’s an NFL rule that prevents teams from claiming a practice squad player a week or so before you face the team he was previously on.

    With that in mind, it sure seems like a good thing the 49ers promoted Hannon last week to initially avoid a poaching, then waived him in an attempt to sneak him back on the practice squad, leaving the 24-year-old speedster exposed.

    Now I’m concluding San Francisco will have to change ALL their offensive audibles before coming to town on Dec. 14th.

  262. Garret December 4, 2008 9:02 pm

    Before this season began, Texas Tech’s AD apparently told Mike Leach he was fine with Leach leaving!

    NewsChannel 11 has obtained documents that show, as of April 2008, Texas Tech Athletic Director Gerald Myers seemed to be okay with losing Mike Leach as head coach.

    Leach’s agent tried to start negotiations in the spring. But in an April 29th, 2008 e-mail, at 4 p.m., Myers wrote back to the agent saying that the athletic department’s financial condition would not allow Leach to make more money. Myers writes, “We have reached the limits of what we can pay our coach and still maintain the rest of the department.”

    Myers complimented Leach as a fine coach and said it was perfectly logical for Leach to seek more money. And then, “If better opportunities occur for him somewhere else we will fully understand.”

  263. SteveM December 4, 2008 9:02 pm

    …and brew808 — I had to call in a lot of favors and hire two psychics, but I found out when you will be here for the holidays. I’ve got a karaoke call lined up for you too… 🙂

  264. Garret December 4, 2008 9:04 pm

    Looks like USC’s offensive coordinator is getting the Washington job. No wonder there is an article in the Houston Chronicle (the online like doesn’t work yet) that states that Leach is trying to get the Auburn job.

    USC offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian will be named Washington coach, multiple sources told ESPN on Thursday night.

    Sarkisian denied the report in a USC release.

  265. las vegas December 4, 2008 9:04 pm

    I wasn’t shy, I was in awe!

  266. Garret December 4, 2008 9:05 pm

    In addition to the ESPN report in my previous post, the LA Times also has an article about Sarkisian getting the U-Dub job.

    USC offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian will be offered the job as Washington’s head coach, a source with knowledge of the situation said Thursday.

    Sarkisian, 34, interviewed for the job over Thanksgiving. He said he spoke to Washington officials Wednesday but had not been offered the job.

    The source, who declined to speak on the record because the offer had not been formally made, did not give a timetable for the job offer.

    Texas Tech Coach Mike Leach and Fresno State Coach Pat Hill also were among those who interviewed, but they pulled their names from consideration Thursday.

  267. Garret December 4, 2008 9:06 pm

    By the way, there is an article published that states that Sarkisian is USC’s lead recruiter for Manti Teo.

  268. d1島 December 4, 2008 9:06 pm

    Thanks for the update.

  269. las vegas December 4, 2008 9:06 pm

    I kept expecting to hear Norm Chow’s name in the running at UDub, but nothing

  270. Garret December 4, 2008 9:07 pm

    Free play links time. Please ignore my next 5 posts if you do not want the off-topic stuff.

    New silicon solar cell can be more efficient and cost less than current solar cells.

  271. Garret December 4, 2008 9:07 pm

    This car completed the first solar-powered trip around the world. Its trip went to 38 countries, took 17 months, and covered 38,000 miles.

  272. Garret December 4, 2008 9:08 pm

    Free Android application will give G1 users the flu danger levels for any zip code in the country.

  273. Garret December 4, 2008 9:08 pm

    IBM and Canonical announced a virtualized software bundle that runs on Ubuntu Linux that is MUCH cheaper than running Microsoft’s Office suite on Window PCs. Large companies will pay just $49 for the software and $10 for Ubuntu support…$59 per worker would really undercut Microsoft’s prices!

  274. Garret December 4, 2008 9:08 pm

    Swedish woman’s disability payments for whiplash because of a car accident have been stopped because they determined that her boobs were too large and were actually the cause of her neck and shoulder pain.

  275. Garret December 4, 2008 9:09 pm

    Free play links pau.

  276. Garret December 4, 2008 9:11 pm

    las vegas,

    U-Dub was apparently not interested in Norm Chow. Norm was probably not that interested in them either. His family is in the LA area and he’s still getting paid big money from Tennessee–any money he earns from some other job just reduces what Tennessee has to pay him.

  277. Garret December 4, 2008 9:11 pm

    UCLA was smart to back-load Norm’s contract. So, he earns little now, but once his Tennessee contract ends, he gets paid extra for the following years.

  278. las vegas December 4, 2008 9:14 pm

    thanks for the info on Chow

  279. SteveM December 4, 2008 9:21 pm

    las vegas — did you notice brew808’s post #174 and Rob25’s post #177? Coincidence? I wonder who else might be in town at that time…

  280. OldDiver December 4, 2008 9:22 pm

    Interesting to hear that USC offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian might get the Washington job. You would think Washington would want an offensive coordinator who was effective in his job.

  281. las vegas December 4, 2008 9:22 pm

    no, but I’ll check them out later

  282. las vegas December 4, 2008 9:24 pm

    looks like th A-House family might be there too

  283. Garret December 4, 2008 9:49 pm


    Pretty funny! Norm Chow was much more effective (in my opinion) as USC’s offensive coordinator than Steve Sarkisian. But I guess U-Dub wanted someone younger…or someone not Norm Chow, as they talked to a lot of other candidates.

  284. Garret December 4, 2008 9:49 pm

    With the A-House family, Rob25, Shannon, etc. in Vegas all around the same time, this could make for a good Cattle Call!

  285. d1島 December 4, 2008 10:02 pm

    Go Bearcats dot com site thanks UC fans for setting a new average attendance record this year of 31,964 🙄

  286. d1島 December 4, 2008 10:08 pm

    From their game notes:

    SENIOR DAY HONOREES …Cincinnati honored 20 student-athletes, Connor Barwin,
    Terrill Byrd, Trevor Canfield, Tyler Clifford, Torry Cornett,
    Khalil El-Amin, Delbert Ferguson, Dominick Goodman,
    Dustin Grutza, Adam Hoppel, Kevin Huber, Lamonte
    Nelms, Ryan Manalac, Mike Mickens, Justin Moore,
    Corey Smith, DeAngelo Smith, Cedric Tolbert, Brandon
    Underwood, and Brandon Yingling, prior to the last home
    game of the 2008 season against Syracuse.

    No need den; pau already.

  287. d1島 December 4, 2008 10:10 pm


    – Mike Mickens, UC’s career leader in interceptions (14)
    and interception return yards (296), did not play against
    Pittsburgh, ending his streak of 46 consecutive starts.
    – He injured his left knee on Nov. 20, had arthroscopic
    surgery on Nov. 25 and will be four weeks of action.
    – He is expected to play in UC’s bowl game.

  288. jm2375 December 4, 2008 10:12 pm

    d1 – no other school does it like UH. They usually all do it *before* the game with not much show. We do it da best. 😀

  289. d1島 December 4, 2008 10:17 pm

    QB Tony Pike seems to be doing fine with a fractured left (non-throwing) arm.

    – He had surgery on Sept. 29, started a throwing program
    several days later, and wears a protective sleeve and
    playing cast over his left arm.
    – Pike played only the first half of the UConn game due to
    numbness in his non-throwing hand.
    – On the season, Pike has completed 63 percent of his
    passes for 1,788 yards and 15 touchdowns.
    – He leads the BIG EAST and ranks 19th nationally in passing
    efficiency with a 147.65 rating.

  290. jm2375 December 4, 2008 10:20 pm

    Watching KHNL. 1st HD newscast is the 20th. Can UH sports in HD be far behind? I hope it’s sooner rather than later!!!!

    OK, 3rd time’s a charm? No one entered the contest!!!!! ‘cmon people, go donate!!!

  291. d1島 December 4, 2008 10:23 pm

    If teams get early down to Cincy, they pay:

    UC is 21-0 when leading after three quarters under head
    coach Brian Kelly

    ff UC has an interception in five straight games after Corey
    Smith picked off his first interception of the season in the
    30-10 win over Syracuse.

    Despite Mickens being out, they have someone else to be wary of in the DB’s

    Deangelo Smith (#6/DB)
    – Needs two interceptions to take UC’s career lead (13/Mike
    – Needs 117 interception return yards to become UC’s career
    leader (296/Mike Mickens).

  292. Garret December 4, 2008 10:23 pm

    Since we discussed Norm Chow today, here is a feature article in Friday’s LA Times that is about how USC football misses Norm.

    It is a truth that most USC fans have either avoided or denied, and who can blame them?

    In the last eight years, it has been their toughest loss. Since the Pete Carroll era began, it has been his biggest miscalculation.

    Nobody really talks about it anymore, it exists far across town and deep in the standings, it’s nearly disappeared under four years of obscurity and disappointment.

    But it’s still there. And Saturday, from high in the Rose Bowl press box, for the first time since becoming painfully evident, this truth will be staring them directly in the face.

    The Trojans miss Norm Chow. They miss him bad. They miss him historically bad.

    They miss him national-championship bad.

    The truth is, if Chow did not leave USC in 2005 after a personality clash with Carroll, they could have played for three more national titles.

    The truth is, in each of the first three seasons after Chow left, in three games they should have won, the Trojans offense slipped into a confused funk that led to three defeats.

  293. Garret December 4, 2008 10:25 pm

    las vegas,

    Norm’s wife and kids never moved to Tennessee when he coached there. His wife stayed at their home (I think in Orange County) and his kids were students at USC>

  294. d1島 December 4, 2008 10:27 pm

    Uh…no comment

    – Jake Rogers was named the BIG EAST Special Teams Player
    of the Week for the week ending Nov. 30.
    – He kicked three field goals, including a pair of 45-yarders,
    to help Cincinnati to a 30-10 win against Syracuse.
    – Rogers moved into sole possession of seventh place in
    school history with 24 made field goals in his career with
    a 38-yard field goal in the second quarter, passing Tom
    Dallen’s 23 made field goals from 1993-94.
    – He pushed his career total to 25 with a 45-yard field goal
    in the third quarter.

  295. Garret December 4, 2008 10:27 pm

    Feature story on Long Beach Poly’s DEs, which of course means a lot of the story is about UH recruit Iuta Tepa.

    Tepa and Edwards have looked real good. Tepa, a 6-foot-2, 215-pound senior, has 83 tackles and 11 sacks. Edwards, a 6-2, 196-pound senior, has 46 tackles, five sacks and two fumble recoveries. Lara said Tepa’s tackles are much higher because he usually plays on the strong side, where most teams run the ball.

    For Tepa, he is in a sense trying to live up to Kenny Rowe, who played defensive end at Poly and is now a sophomore linebacker at Oregon. Tepa thought so much of Rowe that he took his No. 99 after Rowe left for college.

    “Being able to wear his number, I have to fit in his shoes, do what he did,” Tepa said. “Hopefully I lived up to that and hopefully I did my best to carry on the number. And after this I might just pass it down to whoever else is going to carry on the number so he can live up to it.”

  296. d1島 December 4, 2008 10:30 pm

    OK, here’s the challenge.

    – UC has 27 sacks in the last eight games after recording
    four in the first four games.
    – UC recorded seven sacks against Pittsburgh, the most
    sacks UC has recorded this season besting the four UC
    tallied at West Virginia.
    – UC leads the league with 31 sacks this season.

  297. d1島 December 4, 2008 10:33 pm

    …and you thought we had it rough…

    – The Bearcats have played five signal callers during the 2008
    season, one of three teams in the NCAA FBS to do so.
    – UC sits with Eastern Michigan and Washington State with
    five QBs played this season.
    – If you count the pass attempts of Marcus Barnett and
    Kevin Huber, the Bearcats have had seven players take an
    offensive snap in the QB position.

  298. d1島 December 4, 2008 10:37 pm

    Of course, there’s Connor Barwin

    – Converted defensive end Connor Barwin is putting
    together a season to remember.
    – Barwin leads the league lead in sacks (10) and is tied for seventh nationally in sacks per game (0.9).
    – Against USF, Barwin showed his receiver form, catching
    a 1-yard touchdown pass from Tony Pike in UC’s goaline
    – Barwin may be the only player in the country this year to
    record a sack (10), block a punt (3) and catch a TD pass (1).
    – He blocked two punts, the second and third of his career,
    in the first quarter of the Marshall game, with one going
    for a safety.
    – He added his third blocked kick of the year at UConn.

  299. d1島 December 4, 2008 10:43 pm

    OK, so lay off the guy. He not making tun-ta-lan, eh.

    – Junior wide receiver Mardy Gilyard is sporting a new look on
    the field this year – sunglasses.
    – Gilyard had LASIK surgery in the off season and wears the
    shades to deal with light sensitivity.

    Eh, Cincy lurkers, no worry about, “What is ‘tun-ta-lan’?”

  300. d1島 December 4, 2008 10:47 pm

    The rest is stats and game reviews.
    Garret can gleen info from those if he chooses.


    I tired already…


  301. koakane™ December 4, 2008 11:30 pm

    😀 good evening all

    wow d1 bucking to replace Garret or what happened to the real d1 ❓

    brew808 I was always a beer cat 😆 and to answer Jason I think in my past life I could have been a pirate who drank rum

  302. koakane™ December 4, 2008 11:36 pm

    SteveM: December 4th, 2008 at 9:02 pm….brew 808 found out when you will be here for the holidays.

    oh dare I say … the weather outside looks frightening, for brew808 is shouting, let us drink, let us party and let us sing.

  303. Jason December 4, 2008 11:37 pm

    d1: What is ‘tun-ta-lan’? I know what is ‘tantaran’ … 😛

    koakane: I can so see you as the Pirate King in The Pirates of Penzance!

    Pour, oh, pour the pirate sherry;
    Fill, O fill the pirate glass;
    And, to make us more than merry,
    Let the pirate bumper pass!

  304. koakane™ December 4, 2008 11:38 pm

    da hale is quiet

    dare I try for tres

  305. Jason December 4, 2008 11:40 pm

    I think I tried singing this song at karaoke one time, and that didn’t turn out too good. But you gotta love the math references! 😀

    I am the very model of a modern Major-General,
    I’ve information vegetable, animal, and mineral,
    I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical
    From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical;
    I’m very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical,
    I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical,
    About binomial theorem I’m teeming with a lot o’ news –
    With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.

    I’m very good at integral and differential calculus;
    I know the scientific names of beings animalculous:
    In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral,
    I am the very model of a modern Major-General.

    Okay, that’s enough Gilbert and Sullivan … 😀

  306. koakane™ December 4, 2008 11:40 pm

    shucks to slow but no matta jason in the house

    naa jase more like captain morgan bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  307. Jason December 4, 2008 11:41 pm

    Sorry koakane, you too slow with the two finger typing. 😀

  308. koakane™ December 4, 2008 11:42 pm

    gilbert and sullivan sounded more like einstein and copernicus

  309. koakane™ December 4, 2008 11:46 pm

    yep throwing the bottle from one hand to the other and not spilling while typing is cramping my style 😮

    btw why you not coming earlier to tgate? I heard the moanalua craft fair is this sat so the school is closed.

  310. Shannon December 4, 2008 11:46 pm

    LV…Garrett…A-House… you guys still here?

    I read some of the posts, looks like a few of us will be in Vegas around the same time… Sounds like we could have a legit “Mini-CC”… and it would actually be my 1st…

  311. al December 4, 2008 11:47 pm

    koakane…..didn’t you know you just interrupted the garret and d1 chat show?

  312. addahknowjoe December 4, 2008 11:50 pm

    Only but good thoughts and positive vibes resonate for Sliders’ Grammy.

  313. Jason December 5, 2008 12:00 am

    I’m not going to be there for the pre-game tailgate at all. By the time I get to Aloha Stadium, everyone will be cleaning up — I no like walk down just to walk back up again after. 😛

    But yeah, I’m taking a mathematics exam called the Putnam Exam. It’s offered on the first Saturday of December nationally, and it’s really, really, really hard. Twelve problems split over two three-hour sessions, from 8-11 AM and 1-4 PM. Each problem is worth 10 points, but the median is usually single-digits (sometimes zero). Getting 30+ usually means you are one of the top 100 undergraduate mathematicians in the country.

    So yeah, I’m taking this exam because I’m crazy. It’s probably going to be a big waste of my time, but I like a good challenge. 😀

    Anyways, I’ll be there after the game. Please save me triple chocolate cake. 😛

  314. koakane™ December 5, 2008 12:01 am

    al was getting to informative for such a late nite crowd and needed some levity

  315. koakane™ December 5, 2008 12:08 am

    jason you got to lighten up and weigh the situation

    two three hour exam vs four hours of fuud your tummy can take

    twelve problems vs triple mind you triple chocolate yummy cake.

    each problem worth ten points vs each dish worth thousand memories.

    no comparison bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  316. Ralph December 5, 2008 12:16 am

    Jason you get your triple chocolate only if you score better than 80%, about 96 points, so get a good night sleep friday night and wing through the test…

  317. al December 5, 2008 12:17 am

    jason could use a brew or two to lighten up.

  318. Jason December 5, 2008 12:24 am

    al: I prefer triple chocolate cake. 😀

    And I think I can score 96 if I take the test 96 times. Maybe. 😉

  319. koakane™ December 5, 2008 12:24 am

    two brews? al we just like him lighten up not run thru salt lake naked howling at the moon bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  320. koakane™ December 5, 2008 12:28 am

    well me hearties nice small chatting with you’all, got to do it more this saturday befoa and afta the beeeeg win.

    have a nice night and play nice now.

    exit stage left esmeeeeeeeeeeeeeee whooooooshhhhhhhhh

  321. Shannon December 5, 2008 1:01 am

    ST and everyone else interested in UH’s recruiting:

    My Co-worker just told me (about 10 min. ago) that he’s gonna be sending over highlight tapes of his son(s) to UH. They’re known as the Carr brothers, out of Oak Grove High School (11-1) in San Jose, Ca. Oak Grove’s season ended last week in the CCS Semifinals, losing to Valley Christian (10-2) 23-20. Omari is a RB and his twin brother Jabari is a DB. From what he was telling me, Jabari has been getting letters from PAC-10 schools, not too sure about Omari. Google them or look them up on scouting websites… Either one of them, of not both of them, would be a good catch for Hawaii…

  322. Shannon December 5, 2008 1:04 am

    *sp: “if not”…

  323. Ralph December 5, 2008 1:16 am

    Omar Carr 5’9 170 averaged 176.8 yards per game, 11.31 yards per carry, scored 29 TDs. What division is Oak Grove in?

  324. Shannon December 5, 2008 1:50 am

    CIF (California Interscholastic Federation) CCS – Central Coast Section. De La Salle is in the CIF NCS – Northern Coast Section. Other California powerhouses Long Beach Poly, Mater Dei & Mission Viejo are in the CIF SS – Southern Section

  325. 99club December 5, 2008 2:20 am

    Good morning Tsaikos…

    What a blowout last night in that Rutgers – Louisville game. Funny how that game and our upcoming game can affect the BcS computer rankings in Florida’s favor. It’s already known that a Hawaii win over Cincy will flip the standings of OU and FL in one computer poll since FL beat Hawaii and OK beat Cincy. Now the computer has to factor in that Hawaii beat Fresno which beat Rutgers. Easy, yeah? What a system.

  326. Shannon December 5, 2008 2:32 am

    BCS = Bull Crap System

  327. wafan December 5, 2008 3:46 am

    Jubliant Aloha Friday all!

  328. wafan December 5, 2008 3:47 am

    Tomorrow’s the day!!!

    Go Warriors! Flay the ‘cats!

  329. wafan December 5, 2008 4:05 am

    Are you folks kidding? No one wants or needs a ticket to tomorrow’s game between our Warriors and the ‘cats?

    10 minutes to do the paperwork. 30-40 minutes to lie down and relax. 15 minutes to sit around to realize there was no logical reason for you to have worried.

  330. Stretch December 5, 2008 4:46 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!

    A quick post before heading out to the airport.

    Happy Birthday to G-Nalo!!

    No ask me how old he is cause I no more enough fingers to count that high.

  331. Stretch December 5, 2008 4:47 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!

    A quick post before heading out to the airport.

    Happy Birthday to G-Nalo!!

    No ask me how old he is cause I no more enough fingers to count that high.

  332. brew808 December 5, 2008 5:18 am


    ~~•~~~~•~ 😆 😀 😆 Golly..G-(nalo)..Happy..Birthday!!! 😆 😀 😆 ~•~~~~•~~

    😯 ~~•~~~~•~P•O•U•N•D..them..U-Sin-n-See..bare-cats!!!
    ~~•~~~~•~ 😯

    Everyone have a fantastic Aloha Friday!!! (Especially G!) 😀 😯 😆

  333. brew808 December 5, 2008 5:23 am

    …and continued prayers for Curveball & Kristen….

  334. brew808 December 5, 2008 5:26 am

    ❀ ❀ ❀
    ~~•~~~~•~ 😆 😀 😆 Go..Wahine!!! 😆 😀 😆 ~•~~~~•~~❀ ❀ ❀

  335. brew808 December 5, 2008 5:46 am

    ~~•~~~~•~ 😆 😀 😆 Happy..Birthday..Ukuleleboi!!! 😆 😀 😆 ~•~~~~•~~

  336. jm2375 December 5, 2008 6:00 am

    Aloha Friday Tsai-kos!

    Happy Birthday g-nalo!!

    Best wishes to Kristen & Curveball for a speedy recovery.

    Got dept Christmas party today at Waialae CC. Usually wear jeans & tshirt on Fridays at work, but no can today cuz of the dress code at Waialae. Oh well, free lunch!!

    OK time to go over da mountain and off da cliff. 🙄 BBL.

  337. Garret December 5, 2008 6:19 am

    Happy Birthday to G-Nalo!

  338. Garret December 5, 2008 6:21 am


    Great job with all of the Cincinnati research! I haven’t had time to look up those articles so I really appreciate you posting them!

  339. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER December 5, 2008 6:31 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

    Hauoli Lahanau birthday peeps!

    “Anyways, I’ll be there after the game. Please save me triple chocolate cake. 😛 ”

    Janon- I did a double take. Thought you said TRIPE chocolate cake… bwahahahah!

  340. d1島 December 5, 2008 6:32 am

    Great Morning All!

    Nice article about UH’s “Snowflake”. Part of a great Senior class, Nathan McKay. Mahalo for your dedication. Hope his Mom got to come home for his Senior Night.

  341. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER December 5, 2008 6:32 am


    not enuf sleep…

  342. d1島 December 5, 2008 6:35 am


  343. d1島 December 5, 2008 6:39 am


    Thanks, but really it wasn’t a lot of research. All that stuff came from Cincy’s 40+ page Game Notes.

  344. Garret December 5, 2008 6:41 am


    Thank you for highlighting Nathan McKay. Players that can work hard on the scout team for 5 years without getting the recognition that comes with playing time really give their time and body up for the team. I’m glad that Nathan got a little bit of the spotlight with your article.

    I also enjoyed the article yesterday with Sol and Adam. UH fans will really miss them next year…UH has a LOT of solid LBs on their roster and has a lot of great recruits in the 2008 and 2009 classes that will have good careers, but Sol and Adam set a really high standard for them to live up to as true student-athletes.

  345. Garret December 5, 2008 6:43 am


    That is why I’m thankful that both Heeia Elementary and King Intermediate tried out speed reading programs with their students for one year each and I was lucky enough to be picked for both of them. If I couldn’t speed read, I couldn’t read all the stuff that I do for both work and fun.

    Google reader+Google search+speed reading work really well together!

  346. Garret December 5, 2008 6:59 am

    My Dad and Mom can read the blog ever since we fixed up their computer when we visited Hawaii. Yesterday he asked me “When do you work?” since he saw I was blogging at different times of the day. Good thing I got everything done that I was supposed to do yesterday…or my boss and/or President would have killed me!

  347. Stretch December 5, 2008 6:59 am

    20% chance of rain tomorrow night, I hope not!!

  348. d1島 December 5, 2008 7:13 am


    Had to laugh at the comment from your Dad. Once a teacher, always a teacher, eh? 😆


  349. Jay December 5, 2008 7:26 am

    Ball State turns down Humanitarian Bowl. Wow. WAC gets some love, but no mention of UH.


  350. madeinhawaii December 5, 2008 7:46 am


    “Putnam?” Like the “Man on Putnam Hill” from HG WELL’s ‘War of the Worlds’? Mr. Futility? The King Pessimist?

    What an appropriate name for that test.

  351. koakane™ December 5, 2008 7:47 am

    good morning tsai-ko’s

    sun is out and looking good so far. one more day till senior night. reminder to bring it no matter what

    hippo birdie two ewe gnalo aka mr. village have one supa day

  352. jm2375 December 5, 2008 8:02 am

    Jason – in order for us to save you a piece of cake, 2 things must happen:
    1) you WILL be NICE to me all day today. 😆
    2) you will have to fend off WDoc and her sweet tooth!!

    See what happens when you don’t come to a t-gate? hehehehe

  353. jm2375 December 5, 2008 8:11 am

    ST was on L&L this morning early (6:30ish). Pops asked him about bb recruiting being on “life support”. He dodged that bullet well and deferred to the beat writer.

  354. (Jesse) James December 5, 2008 8:11 am

    Good morning Tsaikos…have to esme again today….

    Happy B day to gnalo…wow, turning 30 today huh???

    Liz…Tripe chocolate cake is something Rob 25 would really like…LMAO….

  355. Stretch December 5, 2008 8:15 am

    (Jesse) James:
    December 5th, 2008 at 8:11 am
    Happy B day to gnalo…wow, turning 30 today huh???

    you have 30 fingers and toes??

  356. MeiLing December 5, 2008 8:22 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka!!!

    Happy berfday, g-nalo! Hau’oli la hanau, Ukuleleboi!

    (((Kristen))) and prayers for you.

    ST ~ Nice article on ‘Snowflake’ McKay. It takes everyone on the team to get a W.


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