Higher ground

Coaches will always say that altitude is an attitude. But deep down …

And that it why during discussions to plan this year’s football trip to Army (New York) and Colorado, UH officials considered having the Warriors stay in Wyoming between those games. The thinking was that Laramie, which is higher above sea level than Boulder, Colo., would better prepare the Warriors for the thin air. It was the same reasoning as to why, for several years, most of the U.S. Olympic teams trained in Colorado Springs. But, alas, the idea did not survive, and the Warriors will spend the intermission in Las Vegas (much to the delight of the beat writers).

UH already has booked tickets to leave Tuesday, Sept. 7, for the Army game. The Warriors will take a direct flight from Honolulu to Newark, N.J.

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There is an assumption that UH teams don’t play to the same expectations. That, for instance, in basketball, the women’s team gets a pass but the men’s team does not. Or that soccer, unlike football or baseball, does not face a win-or-else deadline.


And, if so, is it fair?

Your thoughts.

* * * * *

The Davone Bess Tour continues.

Today he will sign autographs (between 10 a.m. and noon) at the Barefoot League Store on Kapahulu Avenue (next to the giant Safeway). The store also will sell Bess’ specially designed T-shirts.

He also will be at SportStan between 1 p.m and 3 p.m.

* * * * *

Happy birthday to Liz Maiava and to Garrett “Mr. Rough Rider” Ogawa.


  1. bighilofan2 February 21, 2010 4:58 am

    Good morning Tsaikos everywhere.

  2. duffer February 21, 2010 5:00 am

    Good Morning TSAIKOS!

    Howzit bighilofan2!

  3. anonymous February 21, 2010 5:02 am

    To HA staff providing sport’s updates

    I can’t see how anyone can bemoan Michelle Wie updates.

    After all you do it for all the other Hawaii golfing pros. (Parker, Dean and Chad).

    Even when there’s an amateur golf event you report the scores.

    Yet the poster in #61(yesterday’s blog) describes the papers staff/staff member responsible for providing these updates as being a pervert and having a fixation of Michelle Wie.

    Nutty, I know.

    Personally I take umbrage to someone making a statement like that. And I’m guessing the HA staff does too. Because I don’t think the staff should be the recipient of such unwarranted ridicule.

    Most of the papers across the country provide updates and stories of their local sport’s participants.

    This isn’t an anomaly.

    Yet here in Hawaii to one person (or one poster on this blog) it is. And I find it strange that he should feel that way.

  4. wafan February 21, 2010 5:14 am

    Good morning!

  5. wafan February 21, 2010 5:14 am

    Congratulations, Kekoa!!!

    Enjoy the BaseBow game.

  6. Stephen Tsai February 21, 2010 5:15 am

    I’m all in favor of more coverage rather than less.
    If somebody is not a fan of Wie’s, don’t read the updates.
    Nobody is being quizzed later.

  7. wafan February 21, 2010 5:18 am

    So, another influx of folks from Hawai’i to Las Vegas between Army and Colorado looks to be in the works. Good luck to the team and the fans!

  8. Maverick February 21, 2010 5:32 am

    Less distractions in Laramie. Great venue and school.
    The Altitude at 7200 ft. makes sense too, but this is UH politics at play.
    Just say NO to Vegas.

    Plus, this is a beginning of the season game, so the lungs and conditioning are not at a peak yet. Better start playing some rugby now guys for the Boulder altitude.

  9. bighilofan2 February 21, 2010 5:40 am


    howzit howzit
    have you had a chance to go up whistler?
    i’m watching the curling, and my blood is rising! :mrgreen:

  10. wafan February 21, 2010 5:48 am

    Have not had the opportunity to personally watch any basketball games for either team so I do not know if there are different levels of expectation.

    But, I would think that Nash would have a better handle and showing than Dias simply because the team is mostly comprised of his recruits and they should understand and and comply with his expectations.

    Is the problem one of testosterone-fueled chest-thumping?

  11. wafan February 21, 2010 5:55 am

    Hi, bighilofan2!

    No. I could not afford the tickets. Crazy prices! The other problem was finding a hotel room with a reasonable price.

    Oh well, at least the Peace Arch crossing is not jammed. Waits of around five minutes are the norm.

    Looks like the US athletes are doing okay!

  12. RainbowCliff February 21, 2010 5:57 am

    Good Morning Tsaiko Nation, The thought for the day is to rise and shine and give God the glory glory children of the Lord !

    This song biblical phrase has been a wonderful tune for me over the years as I learned it at an early age singing it among fellow campers at a Christian Camp in Calabasas, California. Share the wealth of laughter and joy to ALL that you meet and make sure you HUG your love ones as thay are the true spirit to life and the future of our esteem past.

    Love Hawaii today and everyday as you live in “THE GREATEST PLACE ON EARTH” and when you smell the air of tropical paradise you then realize that the aloha spirit and beautiful green scenery is “one of a kind” and all who wakes up to it are privelaged to such majestic living and beautiful tranquility of life.

    Keep strong in good thoughts and help those who are misguided and unfortunate as they too are humane with consideration and respect as we are ALL of God’s kingdom with the spirit of compassion to one another.

    Enjoy Life to the fullest and share goodness to one another as God loves a cheerful giver !

    Off this LA morning to exercise and share fellowship to Gods people as I am so thankful of living and all the creations that we have in this World we call life. Enjoy your day Tsaiko Nation and always remember you are the “VERY BEST” as you give thanks and praise when you smile and share that love of “ALOHA” !

  13. bighilofan2 February 21, 2010 5:59 am

    yah. watching them on tv is good forthe sole too. 😀

  14. bighilofan2 February 21, 2010 6:00 am

    wafan, you’ll appreciate this.

    yesterday, had a canoe race from Pohoiki to Kehena. well, the other guyz hd a race… :mrgreen:

  15. Pomai February 21, 2010 6:00 am

    Could it be because one of the Platinum sponsors happens to be in Vegas?

  16. bighilofan2 February 21, 2010 6:04 am

    howzit Rainbow Cliff,

    Hawaii is the greatest place on eath, on average year round. 😀

    but you gotta see Dunedin, Christchurch this time of year.

  17. wafan February 21, 2010 6:05 am

    Kind of looks like Ohno and Vonn got a bit cocky or lost their concentration and let up during their contests.

  18. bighilofan2 February 21, 2010 6:06 am

    gotta be.

    plus, da … err… uh…. food.


  19. wafan February 21, 2010 6:06 am

    bhf2 . . .

    I know the feeling of starting the race then becoming a spectator. HA!

  20. Pomai February 21, 2010 6:07 am

    Morning RainbowCliff…..Bighilofan2, wafan and you too anonymous

  21. wafan February 21, 2010 6:09 am

    Hey, Pomai! You going to the game today?

    Ummm, is there a game today?

  22. Pomai February 21, 2010 6:10 am

    And when will we see this as an Olympic sport?????


  23. Pomai February 21, 2010 6:12 am

    Wafan would like to but I made a prior commitment, hope to be able to go on Monday.

  24. NYUH February 21, 2010 6:12 am

    ST: Any clarification on the Malcolm Lane mention yesterday?

  25. wafan February 21, 2010 6:14 am

    HA! I was just thinking of that as an Olympic event. The Tsai-kos might be considered to be professionals, though. Finding a sturdy training table might be a problem, too.

  26. bighilofan2 February 21, 2010 6:14 am

    actually, Vonn had a good run yesterday. but that Andrea Fischbacher was SCARY ALMOST OUT OF CONTOLR SUPER FAST. what a rush for her. what a rush for me jwatching her talking to herself just before take off, going downhill, and watching her finish. That was 1:45m of superhi intensity. what a rush. what a rush!

    imma hoping that our Warriors make me feel like that 9/2. i got hope. i surely do have hope.

  27. bighilofan2 February 21, 2010 6:19 am

    have a great day Tsaikos.

    hi ho hi ho.

  28. NYUH February 21, 2010 6:24 am

    I wonder what scenario will play out if Washington drafts Clausen? I hope they go with a OL (think Jets) but I could see them taking the Notre Dame star, dumping Campbell and letting Collins, Colt and Clausen fight it out. Unfortunately, with the big money they give high draft picks, the pressure will be on to play Clausen.

  29. Bulla February 21, 2010 6:45 am

    goooooood moooooooooooooorning Tsaikos here and everywhere,

    hope everyone has a good day, a refreshing day, a rejuvenating day, a restful day…………………

    IMUA WARRIORS…………. 🙂

  30. wafan February 21, 2010 6:52 am

    Whoo-hoo!!! On MSNBC, live Women’s Curling — Canada v USA. Better than dead Women’s Curling.

    Canada is undefeated in the games.

    Big controversy is the crowd noise. The Europeans are complaining that it is too loud. Awwwww, poor babies. The cheers for Sweden v USA yesterday were loud for Sweden. After that the Canadians and the Americans kicked their cheering into gear.

  31. Bulla February 21, 2010 6:53 am

    Laramie Wyoming, is a very interesting town. Being there last year for Weber State’s opening game was an eye opener. It’s like a great location for anyone in the Witness Protection Program……..that is how remote it is, in the middle of …….well, nowhere.

    Great football fans, very supportive, very loud, but very hospitable.

    Good memories, but the best memory was driving out of there!

  32. wafan February 21, 2010 6:54 am

    It is awesome, too, the skip for the US women is only 19! ‘Attaway to build for the future!!!

  33. wafan February 21, 2010 6:55 am

    Wyoming. More sheep than people.

  34. Da Punchbowl Kid February 21, 2010 7:38 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂 🙂 🙂

    Hey wafan! Howdy Herr Buller!

    As for the Laramie or Las Vegas question, wouldn’t it boil down to which option was more economical? In these austere times at the UH athletic department, that would be the deciding factor, no?

  35. Maverick February 21, 2010 7:42 am

    Colorado Springs would of been another location for staying over and practicing. Major airport, and only several hours to drive to Boulder.

    Slightly less elev. than Laramie, ( around 6000 ft.) but would also provide an opportunity for the warriors to see the Olympic training center. Would be a shot of motivation.
    The problem with going to 7200 ft. elev. right away, is you can lose several days of hard practice trying to adjust to altitude. Headaches, nose bleeds, dry air, etc.
    Gotta take it slow and easy

  36. Maverick February 21, 2010 7:49 am

    Wyoming> More tumbleweeds than sheep :>.

  37. Maverick February 21, 2010 7:52 am

    But the Vegas Food Corral is more abundant than Laramies.

    Yes, monetary economics may be trump over the Altitude logic.

  38. Da Punchbowl Kid February 21, 2010 8:19 am

    Hey Maverick! Hows you today?

    Yep, cheap food is good…

  39. NYUH February 21, 2010 8:33 am

    More interest in sheep than football today.

  40. protector February 21, 2010 8:45 am

    I agree with Maverick, ST & others that Laramie would’v been a terrific & productive venue. I acknowledge, as DPK said, that these are indeed austere times. However, UH has a penchant for often being “penny-wise, but pound foolish”. For those that know for sure, wouldn’t expenses be less to go to Laramie? The distance from NY looks shorter. And it’s also closer to the final destination as well. How would going to Vegas be more economical? I don’t travel much and don’t know actual figures for expenses. I’m willing to be schooled if the logic is wrong. Why can’t UH help enhance the team’s efforts to win with a small concession?

  41. Stephen Tsai February 21, 2010 8:48 am

    As of now, Lane is suspended, and there are no plans to allow him to play in spring practice. There also are no plans, as of right now, for him to play this fall. There have been what I would term negotiations for the situation to change, but right now, the status remains the same.
    This involves some personnel issues I’m not allowed to divulge, although I was able to get somewhat of the story because I spoke with Malcolm. UH is only allowed to say he’s on suspension for violating a team rule. But just so there are no assumptions, Malcolm is in good academic standing and he has not done anything to violate the Student Code of Conduct.

  42. Stephen Tsai February 21, 2010 8:56 am

    I thought the Laramie experiment would have been innovative.
    You practice way up high, so when you go down in elevation, you’re even that much more prepared.
    Las Vegas has some elevation, and the dry air might prepare the team for the aridness caused by Boulder’s thin air.
    One of the things the team will need to address isn’t the distractions of Las Vegas. It’s the boredom from being kept from the distractions of Las Vegas. Being cooped up had some going stir crazy. (Riley Wallace used to call it being hotel-logged.)
    The solution, I would think, is to actually have some planned activities. And I’m not talking bowling and movies in the hotel. Go sightseeing. The buses already are rented. I mean, I always chuckle when teams say they’re on business trips. Oh, really? Think businessmen just work on business trips?

  43. wafan February 21, 2010 8:59 am

    Maverick . . .

    Tumbleweeds. The school where I used to teach was a bit farther West from here. The kids had never seen a tumbleweed. Heck some of them had never left the town/county. I took them to the state conference in Kennewick. We had to stop so they could see and watch the tumbleweeds.

    Pretty funny. They brought one back to school to show their friends. Darn seeds were everywhere in the lab.

  44. wafan February 21, 2010 9:02 am

    Lots of things to see and places to go in Las Vegas. And, not the casinos.

    Why not give the guys every opportunity to excel?

  45. Stephen Tsai February 21, 2010 9:06 am

    For the Army game, there is talk of UH staying in Albany, which is about 88 miles from West Point.
    Worse, though, it is about 140 miles from New York City, where we plan to be every night.

  46. Stephen Tsai February 21, 2010 9:09 am

    When we went to a media convention in New York a few years ago, we were like NBA players, rolling into the hotel at 4 in the morning.
    If we go all the way to within the N.Y. state boundaries, and I’m in my hotel room at 11 p.m., I’m going to be one angry writer.

  47. ct_poiboy February 21, 2010 9:22 am

    New York! I could drive to the Army game and actually see UH play a game in person… go Warriors!

  48. whitey February 21, 2010 9:30 am

    Good morning Tsaikos.

  49. whitey February 21, 2010 9:33 am

    Pomai, I think you are correct about the major sponsor in Vegas, but there is also another, Hawaiian Air which is their carrier. I think they should stay in Denver area to get acclimated and get a chance to meet prospective warriors in the area. But, I just a fan.

  50. Stephen Tsai February 21, 2010 9:57 am

    Only in the Winter Olympics are second- and third-place finishes celebrated as record accomplishments.

  51. Tombo Ahi February 21, 2010 10:16 am

    Maybe they’re staying in Nevada for recruiting reasons as well. If they’re flying from Vegas to Colorado around Wednesday or Thursday, would that be enough time to get adjusted to the altitude?

  52. Pomai February 21, 2010 10:19 am

    whitey even with going to Vegas they appease both sponsers, because they still will use Hawaiian air. But I do agree they should stay in Laramie, both for the air an for the non distractions.

  53. SteveM February 21, 2010 10:19 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Laramie or Las Vegas for a week? I’m for Vegas. But, if for some reason UH does not have a notch in the win column by midnight 9/11, public perception would also be better kinder if the team trained in Laramie. PR issue. Maybe there should be two plans.

  54. anonymous February 21, 2010 10:25 am

    Would this be an ominous sign for Coach Nash, if JD and the BOR call for an emergency meeting this afternoon or in the coming week?

    Maybe, probably. Although it would be a welcoming sign from my prospective. I think a good AD would have done this already.

    With Coach Nash’s posse getting bigger by the minute and the MBB bellying to the surface, JD has to make a decision.All the F’s on Coach Nash’s reports card aren’t an aberration.Dwindling attendance isn’t, either.

    To give the MBB a shot in the arm JD has to do something now. And quickly.

    Either fire Coach Nash. Insert an interim coach. Find a new coach. Or retain Coach Nash. Really simple options.If JD ever dissected a frog in biology class he should get by this, too. I hope.

    For the people looking on the outside in, like recruits and UH fans and supporters, uncertainty of the coaches status is bad for the program.

    I can’t see the purpose of waiting til the end of the season, as JD has already alluded to, in making this decision .

  55. SteveM February 21, 2010 10:28 am

    February 21st, 2010 at 9:22 am
    New York! I could drive to the Army game and actually see UH play a game in person… go Warriors!

    ct_poiboy — I know you have posted last fall, but please tell the city/state of your residence if you live on the mainland.

    I would like to add you to this listing…


  56. whitey February 21, 2010 10:30 am

    Colorado Springs may be another option. It is about 45 min away, higher elevation than Denver, has potential recruits for UH, and has generally better weather than Denver. But then I am just a fan!!!

  57. whitey February 21, 2010 10:32 am

    Tara H could be the guide if they stayed in the Springs.

  58. whitey February 21, 2010 10:33 am

    Plus they have the Garden of the Gods. Great omen for the Warriors!!!!

  59. Stephen Tsai February 21, 2010 11:04 am

    I doubt any discussion on the basketball situation will be made until after the Rainbows are eliminated.
    If the team makes the WAC Tournament, and wins a game or two, I don’t anticipate any changes.
    Bottom line is the bottom line. There’s no money.
    The volleyball and women’s basketball moves were made last year because they involved expiring contracts, not buyouts.

  60. Stephen Tsai February 21, 2010 11:08 am

    By the way, did you notice all of the news last week involving the NBA trading deadline?
    There were all of these teams trying to maneuver to clear salary-cap room for a run at the Summer of 2010 free agents.
    Anyway, the main point was; there are a lot of bad contracts in the NBA. I can think of about a dozen GMs who need to take business classes.

  61. duffer February 21, 2010 11:08 am

    Story on the Lady Lunas………..


    My friend Kaki is enjoying this! 🙂

  62. Slugger February 21, 2010 11:21 am

    G’day! Hope everyone is having a wonderful day. Hope the BaseBows do better today. Enjoy the game, Kekoa!

  63. Kekoa (iPhone) February 21, 2010 11:25 am

    Thanks Slugger!…heading over to pick up Ralph mos-skosh. C-ya!

  64. Ralph February 21, 2010 11:26 am

    Volley Talk bloggers are reporting that Monica Stauber, setter,5’8′, Mater Dei 2011, and Jane Crosan,6’0 OH, Los Alamitos 2011 committed to the UH Na Wahine

  65. Ralph February 21, 2010 11:28 am

    Both Stauber and Uiato are shorter than Brandt. Stauber is on the Mizuno vb club, Shoji recruits a lot of their players over the years. Uiato and Goodman I believe are Mizuno players.

  66. Garret February 21, 2010 11:28 am

    Siaki Cravens has two younger siblings that might be of interest to UH coaches. Looks like the UH women’s basketball team had a recruiter at his sister’s last game of the season in Temecula.

    Malia Cravens, 17, is a junior at Temecula Valley High School and has a chance to receive a higher education by virtue of a mix of academics and athleticism. Her older brother, Siaki Cravens, has committed to the University of Hawaii, where he’ll play football. Her younger brother, Su’a Cravens, may already be on a similar path.

    Malia’s basketball play has been eyed heavily by Hawaii. Schools interested in her track abilities include the University of Southern California and University of California at Los Angeles.

    A Hawaii recruiter was present at Malia’s last game. She’s learned to take the attention is stride.

  67. A-House February 21, 2010 11:31 am

    My thoughts:

    I believe that football, of all sports, must play to a higher expectation because so much emphasis is placed on the only collegiate team in Hawaii Nei. Football, if anything, drives the train and generates the most compassion of all sports. Brain washed? Sure, as here or on the mainland, it is THEE game to watch with the most interest and fueled by “pro-sports”.

    Unlike Wahine BB versus MBB, perhaps the bigest difference is how the players play. Perhaps, it properly reflects how the players play for their coach. Do not get me wrong as there are many instances where the players are just awful, but their hearts are with Coach Dana. Maybe, not the same for the men?

    IMHO, Coaches Dana and Wade, and maybe because they are “new HCs”, are perhaps the most demonstrative of their ideals to their players -how much they care, players interests are foremost, how they configure their game training to the player’s strengths and weakness. It’s jsut that they seem to stand out for their beliefs of themselves, their program, their players, and UH. Do not misunderstand me as I’m sure other UH coaches feel the same, but do they come across the same? You be the judge.

  68. Kazz February 21, 2010 11:31 am

    To there isn’t much debate when it comes to the expectations of Wahine basketball vs Men’s basketball.

    Coach Dana and a NEW staff are taking hold of a program that was TAUGHT how to lose for several years. The stentch of death and despair for those involved with the program on and off the court was hard to get rid of, but for anyone that has watched this team from beginning to now can see a change for the better in the culture and many feel confident about Coach Dana for the future.

    Bob Nash has had nearly three seasons to gain a winning season. 1st season, pass, 2nd, the eyes start looking side to side, and this season has been the hardest and right now, under Bob Nash, the truth is that many are not confident that under his guidance will the program improve.

    Both programs suffered BIG injuries and personel losses (i.e. Bill Amis, Dwain Williams, Jeremy Lay, Shawna Kuehu, Mai Ayabe, Megan Tinin, and Brianna Linton).

    One thing that remains vastly different is the manner in which these two perform, I’ve said it over and over again, and many others have to, it’s to the point of ad nauseum.

    Now if people want to expect the SAME expectations and pressures to be put on coaches in different sports then look at the KALA.

    Football = big time
    Wahine Volleyball = big time
    Men’s Basketball = big time

    All three represent big time cash earning revenue. Wahine basketball COULD earn revenue too, but I’ll be VERY BLUNT, while under Coach Dana the attendance has tripled, the overall demand for Wahine basketball is not there and never has been, even under UH Circle of Honor Member Vince Goo. To me, I don’t understand it for so-called “sports fans”. Bottom line is A LOT of people out there still think that a woman’s place in the court or field of athletic competition belongs in a skirt with pom poms… That is their cross to bear and not mine and those that still support our Wahine athletes. With basketball having the stigma of being a “man’s” sport most basketball “fans” don’t and won’t ever care if the Wahine win or lose.

    But truth be told.

    The scale of expectations is uneven at UH and at MANY D1 university athletic programs across the country. It’s all based on the incoming flow of cash.

    Is it right? In theory all athletic programs represent their respective schools so it should be, but the almightly dollar now speaks massive volumes to the point that ethics has no voice in any forum anymore.

  69. Kazz February 21, 2010 11:35 am


    So despite “mama’s” wishes Ms. Jane Croson WILL be a Rainbow Wahine?????!!!!!


    (Off to da Les!!!!)

  70. Ralph February 21, 2010 11:36 am

    actually it is Emily Hartong that is on the Mizuno Long Beach VB club Rockstar 18’s. Uiato and Goodman on the Laguna Beach VB club. Waber on the 951 Elite vb club.

  71. Kazz (blkberry_storm) February 21, 2010 11:49 am

    No live stats again for Wahine softball!!! 👿

  72. A-House February 21, 2010 11:54 am


    your #45 – we flew into Newark and onto Albany on our “all-sports” vacation back in 1994. we were relugated to “small” 18 passenger planes where passengers were asked to move seats to “balance” the plane. flying across a “weather front” coming in from Chicago did not help the ride!!

    if UH does this, I hope they will “charter” a plane to carry the entire team inlcuding coaches, trainers, medical staff, etc. or split the team onto spearate planes out of Albany.

  73. A-House February 21, 2010 11:58 am

    last “Albany” should be Newark.

  74. Maverick February 21, 2010 12:05 pm

    I concur Whitey,
    Colo. Springs would be a better choice than laramie, for the fact of enviroment, altitude, and not just being able to see the Olympic training center, but an opportunity to visit the Air Force Academy.

    Sure hope the Falcons will be back on the schedule for Hawaii in the near future

  75. LizKauai [iMac] m/ February 21, 2010 12:26 pm

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

    Speaking of higher ground- I thought this was interesting and directly related to solution-finding whilst we examine the needs of our university in the grand scheme of things:

    Gandhi’s Seven Deadly Social Sins as the causes of our current Great Recession (in the intro to Rediscovering Values: A Moral Compass for the New Economy by Jim Wallis):

    1. Politics without principle
    2. Wealth without work
    3. Commerce without morality
    4. Pleasure without conscience
    5. Education without character
    6. Science without humanity
    7. Worship without sacrifice.

    Have a great day, everyone!

  76. wafan February 21, 2010 12:53 pm

    Another beautiful day here in the PNW! Doors and windows open to air out the house. Whoo-hoo!!!

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  78. NYUH February 21, 2010 2:47 pm

    Thanks Stephen,

    I remember another freshman starting WR also missed a year and came back successfully. I hope Malcolm can make it back if that is what he wants. Glad to known you feel confident in the other receivers, it would be a shame to have Pilares lining up at end again.

    Time to start thinking about Sept 11 – playing Army that is.


    Surprised that they are thinking of going to Albany. Going to Newark would be closer (Rutgers) and New Jersey cheaper than NYC but still very close. Newburgh is the closest and has an international airport.


  79. Committed Road Warrior February 21, 2010 3:31 pm


    Too bad The Thayer Hotel is charging $300 a night for the weekend of the UH game. Looks like I’ll be finding somewhere else to stay….likely a hotel in NYC/NJ and heading to/from West Point on gameday.

  80. anonymous February 21, 2010 3:42 pm

    Re-The Malcolm Lane situation is puzzling

    A quote (#41) by the blog host said he didn’t violate University of Hawaiʻi Student Conduct Code. He’s in good standing academically with the school. It has something to do with a team rule that keeps Lane away from the team.

    Here’s a link:http://www.studentaffairs.manoa.hawaii.edu/policies/conduct_code/system_scc.php

    Cross referencing of what’s in the student conduct code and what is in the team’s rules one can disseminate what’s holding Lane back.

    Whatever it is it must be very serious.

    No need for me to guess, for I think it’s better to spare Lane further scrutiny and public humiliation because I think he has a lot resting on his shoulders as it is.

    I remember when I was Lane’s age instead of heeding the football coaches wishes of only taking one steak through the dinner line I had two and nothing was the same after that.

    Looking back, I wished I didn’t push the coaches buttons. Because one thing lead to another and I was gone.

    How I wish I were more cognizant of you-only-take-one-orbit-in-life.But I was young, and life back then for me didn’t focus on how ones attitude affects ones journey in life. Maybe I was too narrow minded to think of the future. Or the ramifications of my actions.

    I do wish Lane well. My hope, though, is that my message is subliminal. And it opens ones eyes.

  81. Slugger February 21, 2010 3:55 pm


  82. Committed Road Warrior February 21, 2010 4:00 pm


  83. wafan February 21, 2010 4:06 pm

    Bravo BaseBows!!!

  84. NYUH February 21, 2010 4:07 pm

    Sorry CRW:

    I only liked the picture of the Hudson River. I was searching for any news on the cruises to West Point for the games but probably have to wait a few more months.

  85. PowderPuff February 21, 2010 4:11 pm

    NICE win by the baseball guys…congratulations!

    CRW – there are some rooms for way less in Fishkill, NY – seems to be near the USMA-West Point. There are cheaper brands, but the Hampton Inn Fishkill offers comp breakfast and wireless, so it’s very convenient. I just checked and Sept. 10-12 is going for about $126/night.

  86. wafan February 21, 2010 4:15 pm

    disseminate = insinuate?

    subliminal = subtle?

  87. wafan February 21, 2010 4:17 pm

    Good hockey game between Canada and US men.

    3rd period, Canada 2, USA 4, 10 minutes remain.

    Wow. With the home ice advantage . . . who would have thought?

  88. Committed Road Warrior February 21, 2010 4:21 pm

    Hi PowderPuff!

    $126/night is getting there. Probably some cheaper-brand hotels in Newburgh and Poughkeepsie that will also be in the same general price range.

    Looks like Amtrak and MetroNorth may be out of the question for this trip given the relative lack of transportation options once you get to Beacon/Salisbury Mills/Croton-on-Hudson…..with still another 10-15 miles to go…..

  89. Pomai February 21, 2010 4:22 pm

    Well guess that does it for me, go to two games and two loses, stay home for one game an one win. Hummmmm!

  90. A-House February 21, 2010 4:26 pm

    How are hotel/motel prices across the river in Connecticut?

    Maybe I can qualify for “guest” housing on post since its only Army playing Hawaii? No huge interest like Army-Navy or Army USAF.

  91. A-House February 21, 2010 4:27 pm


    what aobut the rumor of moving the game to the new Yankee Stadium?

  92. A-House February 21, 2010 4:29 pm

    Congrats/well done to the Baseball Bows for their win today. Another one tomorrow and split the series with the #10 team in the country.

    Damn good start for the Bows!!!

  93. wafan February 21, 2010 4:31 pm

    Pomai . . .

    Are you busy for the rest of the BaseBow season?



  94. wafan February 21, 2010 4:34 pm

    Canada scores with 6-seconds in their power-play.

    3-4 US

  95. wafan February 21, 2010 4:34 pm

    Less than a minute to go.

  96. wafan February 21, 2010 4:36 pm

    Canada pulls its goalie to insert another attacker. US clears the puck and scores.

    3-5 US.

    30-seconds remain.

  97. Kazz (blkberry_storm) February 21, 2010 4:36 pm

    Awsome win!!!!

    Walk off single to win!!!!

    Last time had that thrill was last season against Miss St. Vinnie Catricala had a walk of homer to end the game.

    Congrats to our ladies too as Wahine Softball takes care of business against Cal St. Fullerton 12-3.

  98. wafan February 21, 2010 4:37 pm


    3-5 USA.

  99. anonymous February 21, 2010 4:42 pm

    # wafan:
    February 21st, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    disseminate = insinuate?

    subliminal = subtle?

    nothing that i wrote was bad, wafan

    you’re one of a kind

    with your little cryptic messages

    i directed no hate,

    you do towards me

    I can sense it, and this sets well with you, right?

    tell me wafan, mr school teacher, what did i do wrong>?

  100. wafan February 21, 2010 4:46 pm


  101. Nicola Neil February 21, 2010 4:47 pm

    hey this blog is great, the best in Hawaii.

  102. SteveM February 21, 2010 4:53 pm

    I have just completed the skeleton of my 2010 Warrior Away Game web page for Tsai-ko plans and logistics. Please help me flesh it out. The tours listed as of today are not all-inclusive and I will welcome info from other agencies for similar Army-Colorado combo itineraries.

    Since there is a break between the Army and Colorado games which might be spent in Vegas (depending on tour/personal plans), that week will have a section also (similar to Las Vegas last year) for get-togethers,

    Please post here or email me your plans/info. As usual the travelers will know who else is going and can establish their comms and tailgate/cattle call plans.


  103. Gregory Thatcher February 21, 2010 5:01 pm

    I Really like what you have done with your blog! It’s better than that guy at the other paper.

  104. lava February 21, 2010 5:13 pm

    Until Tadd’s and Dean’s rounds make the Advertiser’s breaking news, me thinks someone has a Wie fetish over there. She finished way back in the pack. Is that breaking news? Dean pocketed over 22k this weekend.

  105. whitey February 21, 2010 5:22 pm

    Congratulations to the Rainbow baseball team. Quite a feat to defeat a ranking team. Can USA Hockey pull another one out of the hat???? Good chance!!!!

  106. Pomai February 21, 2010 5:23 pm

    #93 wafan

    If dey win tomorrow I guess I will be. LOL

  107. whitey February 21, 2010 5:31 pm

    Even tho Dean is from Hawaii, whenever his name is brought up on the PGA, he list his home as Las Vegas or somewhere on the mainland, so most don’t think of him from Hawaii except those of us who live here. Whether the HA has a fetish for MW should not deter from the fact that she is still the best draw on the LPGA, she represents Hawaii and calls Hawaii home, and she has an LPGA tournament to host next year. She also gives her time and money to charity, much like Parker and Tadd and we should give them credit for this. Right now, the LPGA needs MW and visa versa, but does the PGA need Dean or Tadd???? I think that is one of the major reason they will always report how she is doing.

  108. wafan February 21, 2010 5:33 pm

    Pomai . . .

    Sorry, guy! Gotta cheer for the BaseBows.


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  110. Stephen Tsai February 21, 2010 5:42 pm

    OK, let’s try again:
    Lane is in good academic standing, and has not violated any laws or school rules.
    But he did break a team rule.
    It’s personnel matter, so the reasons can’t be divulged. And because UH can’t discuss it, I’m hearing Lane’s version.
    But based on this stalemate, he is not in UH’s plans.
    Now that can all change, and I hope it does because he’s going to be a senior, but that’s the way it is at the moment.

  111. Ralph February 21, 2010 5:51 pm

    Monica Stauber announcement on twitter: mvb verbal commits

  112. al February 21, 2010 6:02 pm

    i believe that monica stauber’s beach volleyball partner is jane crocson.

  113. Ralph February 21, 2010 6:08 pm

    Shoji is done recruiting for 2011, only Kaaihue and Mafua graduates. Unless there is a transfer out of UH, Shoji has to start scouting for 2012.

  114. Ralph February 21, 2010 6:09 pm

    Kazz Kaia pitched today, wrong info, she is now 5-0.

  115. anonymous February 21, 2010 6:33 pm



    What I wrote in #80 doesn’t contradict whatsoever anything that you wrote in #41. Or anything you reiterated in #110.

    You’ve said your not at liberty to discuss it.

    What did anonymous say?

    (middle paragraph)

    No need for me to guess, for I think it’s better to spare Lane further scrutiny and public humiliation because I think he has a lot resting on his shoulders as it is.

    My tone was like a father to son. There was no undertone to it.

    Seriously, is what I wrote bad?

    Because evidently wafan did. And you for reiterating it again.

  116. bighilofan2 February 21, 2010 6:39 pm

    i wanna no.

    did he mouth off? :mrgreeen:

  117. bighilofan2 February 21, 2010 6:42 pm



  118. bighilofan2 February 21, 2010 6:44 pm

    actually, myt 2 cents.

    i just hope ML and the team bosses work it out. kinda reminds me of
    Patton and the 2nd world war. when we needed him as a leader, we ate crow and let me him.

    I like Patton, in history. he did us good. real good.

    so, my 2 cents is, best of luck to Lane. in football. in life.

  119. bighilofan2 February 21, 2010 6:46 pm

    or as LA Rod opined, can’t we all just get alongg?


  120. bighilofan2 February 21, 2010 6:48 pm

    i don’t know whats worse, what Lane did, or what the yokels just did in telling da rear that Aranda’s gonna do this and Tuioti’s gonna do that, and coach saying we ain’t talking till next month.

    c’mon, tell me please, wats worse, worser, worsest? :mrgreen:

  121. bighilofan2 February 21, 2010 6:49 pm

    but i do no about discipline. after all, kahiapo says it all. 😆

  122. bighilofan2 February 21, 2010 6:50 pm

    musta been the wonderfulest dinner that just went down down down. 😀

  123. Stephen Tsai February 21, 2010 6:51 pm

    I don’t think you wrote anything bad or contradictory.
    I just wanted to emphasize what Lane didn’t do.

  124. protector February 21, 2010 7:07 pm

    Congrats to the Rainbow Baseball Team & the Wahine Softball Team!

    Great win for the US Men’s Hockey Team!

    Belated Birthday Wishes for Ms. Maiava & Mr. Ogawa!

  125. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc February 21, 2010 7:10 pm

    Congrats to the BaseBows! Unfortunately, we had to skip today’s game game because I wasnt back to normal when it came time to drive into town – well, normal for me.

    However, I will be at Monday’s game. Alas, the 5 pm start makes it unlikly that DrDoc can be there at the start of the game. He doesn’t get off work until 6 pm and then has to either pick up the car at the repair shop or take the bus up from town. Either way, he’ll come in when the the gates open at the bottom of the fifth inning.

    That means another freebie – if you’d like to go, please send me an e-mail to swood at hoku dot com by 9 am Monday morning. Be sure to include your real name plus a day phone or cell number. You do not have to sit with me even though I would appreciate the use of your eyeballs since mine are so sucky.

    A BIG HAND to Na Wahine Softball as well.


    Here is the latest information about the City Council’s vote this Wednesday on RESOLUTION 09-341 CD1 – PLAN REVIEW USE PERMIT. Unlike the Legislature’s resolutions, this one is mandatory.

    The Council meeting starts at 10 am and the aove item should come up on the agenda no later than 11 am.

    This is the original language of the sections of RESOLUTION 09-341 – PLAN REVIEW USE PERMIT dealing with the lower campus area and the Stan Sheriff Center.

    Note that there is no prohibition in using Les Murakami Stadium in the original, the Committee Draft, or the proposed Floor Draft – only Stan Sheriff Center.

    8. In the event that the University of Hawaii at Manoa conducts more than one “major event” at the same time in the lower campus area, the University of Hawaii at Manoa Transportation Demand Management Plan shall be implemented. For the purposes of this Condition and the other conditions of this resolution, “major event” means an intercollegiate basketball game, an intercollegiate volleyball game, an intercollegiate baseball (but not softball) game, any high school volleyball, baseball, or basketball tournament, any university graduation exercise, or any event in excess of 5,000 spectators, participants, or combination of both.

    9. The performance floor and seating area of the Stan Sheriff Center shall be used for lectures, classes, activities, athletic and other events, festivals, programs, concerts, performances, banquets, productions, registration, exhibitions, convocations and commencement exercises held by or sponsored by the University of Hawaii or a University affiliated organization. In addition, the performance floor and seating areas may be used for high school sporting events, for non-profit community groups such as youth athletic teams, and for sports tournaments and sporting events for nonprofit organizations serving the physically and mentally challenged. Other activities, and in particular other activities of a commercial nature, shall not permitted on the performance floor or in the seating area of the Stan Sheriff Center.

    Both Committee Draft 1 (CD1) and Proposed Floor Draft 1 (FD1) revise Condition 9 by deleting the last sentence prohibiting commercial activities in the Stan Sheriff Arena and replacing it with the following:

    “In the event that the performance floor and seating area of the Stan Sheriff Arena is proposed to be used for activities of a commercial nature held by or sponsored by the University of Hawaii or a University affiliated organization, UHM shall give first refusal right to the Neal Blaisdell Center and shall consult and coordinate with the State of Hawaii Convention Center.”

    Remember, that using the SSC means that expenses to put on the event (ushers, box office, ticket takers, utilities, janitorial staff, etc.) would be significantly less than renting the Blasidell plus the Athletic Department would also get a cut of the concession sales.

    If you feel that this restricts the proceeds the Athletic Department would make which could go towards reducing the deficit or underwring current or future expenses, then speak up.

    For information on submitting testimony or speaking at the meeting, click http://www4.honolulu.gov/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-97438/022410%20Council%20Agenda.htm

    Re the legislative resolutions concering a Student Activity Fee, I need to get an update tomorrow; however, as of this writing, it looks like a go in both the House and the Senate. However, a resolution only expresses the intent of the Legislature and does not have the force of law. Thus, the Board of Regents can ignore it.

  126. whitey February 21, 2010 7:11 pm

    porgot, Congrats to the Wahines sb team. YEEEEEAAAAAAAHHH!!!!

  127. Ralph February 21, 2010 8:07 pm

    softball up dated season statistics:

  128. Garret February 21, 2010 8:50 pm

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    While serving primarily as the Dolphins’ primary slot receiver, Davone Bess led the team in receptions (76) and receiving yards (758), building on the impressive rookie season this former Hawaii standout had in 2008.

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  130. chawan_cut February 21, 2010 8:57 pm

    when do the nfl schedules come out? wonder if anyone is playing at home in NJ or Denver after our games….

  131. BG February 21, 2010 9:07 pm

    The baseball season is still in its first weekend, but I wonder if we won’t look back at the end of the season and point to Johnson’s incredible opposite field shot. Set up the sequence of events culminating in the game-winner. Went from no-chance to top of the world feeling! Went from struggling and looking 0-3 in the face to “get chance”. Great pick-me-up for the Bows. A great opportunity to change their nick from “Bows” to “Warriors”.

    Kudos to the SB team. Except for the Ga Tech game, they were on fire!

  132. BG February 21, 2010 9:09 pm


    Thanks for the info on the VB commits.

  133. jm2375 February 21, 2010 9:25 pm

    chawan – Mets vs Shane Victorino that weekend…

  134. whitey February 21, 2010 9:31 pm

    We got our foot into the Plant HS in Fl with a future warrior, but missed on a gvb player who is going to Penn State. Looks like this school has quite an athletic program.

  135. whitey February 21, 2010 9:34 pm

    and Ralph, we missed a good one from Colorado Springs, Tara’s hometown.

  136. Stephen Tsai February 21, 2010 9:35 pm

    Wow. I didn’t realize the baseball team won.
    They were down when I left the stadium.

  137. whitey February 21, 2010 9:36 pm

    dang, she’s 6′ 5″ and is a setter going to Nebraska this spring.

  138. Kazz (blkberry_storm) February 21, 2010 9:50 pm


    No prob. Kinda surprised Parnaby started but she’s on a roll so no can argue against that.

  139. Kazz (blkberry_storm) February 21, 2010 9:58 pm

    UH’s baseball and softball programs are collectively 2-0 when I am eating Skittles at the game.

    Just passing this along… 😎

  140. Ralph February 21, 2010 10:04 pm

    Honolulu Advertiser Best of the Best voting starts today. HA home page, upper right corner. Got to register. Many categories, including journalist- Tsai is listed. Fuud, etc. Got to vote in at least 5 of the categories you peruse through.

  141. Ralph February 21, 2010 10:07 pm

    Whitey Penn State 2010 recruits-MB 6’6, 6’5 and 6’4. The OH are in the 6’0 range.
    Nebraska always went big in OH and MB. That is how they won 2 National Championship- Canadian Pavan was a lefty at 6’5 playing on the outside.

  142. Ralph February 21, 2010 10:09 pm

    Tara was at the wbb game last night. She was a manager for the team last season, don’t recall seeing her on the bench last night.

  143. Ralph February 21, 2010 10:44 pm

    old news but worth repeating: ESPN article on new vb recruit commit Jane Croson:

  144. Ralph February 21, 2010 10:46 pm

    Jane Croson and Summer Ross were beach vb partners in world matches:

  145. Ralph February 21, 2010 10:52 pm

    Monica Stauber, Mater Dei statistics, verbal commit to UH 2011

  146. Kazz February 21, 2010 11:10 pm


    Tara Hittle is operating the video camera for film sessions along with another student assistant all the way at the top of the arena during the Wahine bball games.

  147. Ralph February 21, 2010 11:17 pm

    my math isn’t up to par: down hill skier travelling at 91 Km/H is moving at about 56+ miles per hour. I was thinking about 80+.

  148. BigWave96744 February 21, 2010 11:19 pm


  149. Ralph February 21, 2010 11:21 pm

    I guess playing vb and bb took its toll, she must have taken the minimum classes, she should have completed her degree two seasons ago with Keefe and Keefe RS her freshman year.

  150. Ralph February 21, 2010 11:21 pm

    maybe Tara is working on her Masters.

  151. jm2375 February 21, 2010 11:30 pm

    Ralph – mebbe she’s going for her post-baccalaureate certificate. She was student teaching last year @ MPI.

  152. Ralph February 21, 2010 11:43 pm

    thansk JM, what was she teaching?

  153. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc February 21, 2010 11:54 pm

    Mahalo! Support much appreciated

  154. Ralph February 22, 2010 12:29 am

    finished voting in the Best of the Best, HA contest. See Home page of HA

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  156. Kekoa (iPhone) February 22, 2010 2:07 am

    Side note to BaseBow game: I was able to repay our blogmeister by awarding him one of my 6 tickets to yesterdays game.

    Excellent ball game btw. Great turnout. Lot’s of happy peeps after the winning run ended the game.

    Without being super critical, there are some things to work on. I’m sure coach Trap will work out those kinks. Meanwhile the team could age like a very fine wine, and I hope to taste an NCAA tourney invite at the end of the season!

    Thank you again *ST* for the ducats over this past weekend. We made good use of every single one of ’em!

  157. Pomai February 22, 2010 2:13 am

    I swear these jerks just can’t seem to leave their hands off anything if they think they can make some money off it. Seems to me that if UH gets a good event (other than school related) and then the C&C step in to take it away from them then the C&C should give UH a cut of the profit for their work securing the event. But really they should keep their hands off it, just another way for the politicians to screw things up.

  158. Kekoa (iPhone) February 22, 2010 2:22 am

    Wafan ~ I got your email. I’m certain you are correct in your assumption. My problem was in translating what seemed to be your standard English vocab words. My broken English wen Ack up, so now I stay confused!

    I going back sleep. Erryting going be bettah by day break.

  159. wafan February 22, 2010 3:27 am

    A fine Monday morning to all!

  160. wafan February 22, 2010 3:28 am

    Oops. Crytologist translation:

    Good morning!

  161. wafan February 22, 2010 3:30 am

    Kekoa . . .

    Kind of seems that way. Thanks!

  162. Pomai February 22, 2010 3:31 am

    Cracks me up, en NO Kekoa you can’t be a judge.

  163. wafan February 22, 2010 3:41 am

    The Cadbury Easter Bunnies are back!

  164. wafan February 22, 2010 3:45 am

    Pomai . . .

    Talk about a hot ticket. Not sure about the attendance, though.

  165. Pomai February 22, 2010 3:59 am

    wafan I would guess it would depend on their dress code……. Ai’yah

  166. bighilofan2 February 22, 2010 4:09 am

    i would attend


  167. bighilofan2 February 22, 2010 4:11 am


    Good morning Tsaikos eve3rywhere.

  168. Bulla February 22, 2010 4:51 am


    A review of ‘the beast’……

    Good morning Tsaikos……have a productive day 🙂

  169. bighilofan2 February 22, 2010 4:53 am

    just wondering

    anybody seein if the JUGS getting aired out?

  170. bighilofan2 February 22, 2010 4:57 am

    great pics Bulla.

    have a productive day too.

    hi ho hi ho

  171. jm2375 February 22, 2010 5:40 am

    Ralph – #152 – sorry, I went nene after posting that. IIRC she was teaching PE.

  172. jm2375 February 22, 2010 5:44 am


    Good morning Tsai-kos!

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  176. westsideview February 22, 2010 7:50 pm

    Bob Coolen’s wahine softball team is off to a whalloping 7-3 start with an eye popping 26 HRs in 10 games. They have lost 2 games by 3 runs, including a 2-0 heartbreaker to #10 Stanford. The next day, they came back to defeat the women Cardinal, 11-5. No need to make excuses, the wahine pounded 4 HRs and placed an explanation point on revenge.
    The wahine softball program may be the best game in town, this spring…and it’s free.

    It puzzles me how this program, in contrast to wahine basketball, has twice as many players, plays nearly twice as many teams, yet 2 years ago earned $130,800 in revenues for a $581,000 deficit. Wahine SB doesnt charge admission.
    The wahine basketball team, on the otherhand, ran up $986,000 in expenses, surpassing Dave Shoji’s team for a $816,000 deficit. That was 2007-2008. They lost more in the 2008-09 fiscal year and claimed the unlikely distinction of having the largest deficit among the 19 UHAD programs.

    If we are to lay praise on a program, it should at least be aimed at components that can be measured with credibility rather than hyperbole that only counts in horseshoes.

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