Helping hands
A little more than 15 years ago, in one of the most bizarre events in UH sports history, Bob Wagner was invited to a news conference to announce his dismissal as head football coach. During the conference, Riley Wallace, who was the UH basketball coach at the time, angrily protested the event, prompting then-associate athletic director Jim Donovan to mutter about a “two-for-one deal.”
Since then, metaphorical fences have been duct-taped. Wallace is now chair of the CollegeInsider.com Tournament. At his urging, according to reports, the basketball Rainbow Warriors will be assured a berth — most likely a host’s role — in that postseason tournament if they do not qualify for the NCAA Tournament.
Wagner is athletic director at Kamehameha-Hawaii, and plans are being finalized to use his school’s Big Island campus for a Warrior football scrimmage April 9.
Yes, we can all get along.
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Happy birthday to Pam Uyeda.
I don’t really know Bob Wagner.
Top3
Morning!
Three people fun are always fun to get along with ;-o
Could we fill the Stan if we host? Would be nice. Rather the boys handle their business and qualify for the NCAA tourny.
Good morning everyone.
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Though they have exceeded my expectations if there were any
Oh yes…good morning gang!
Cant wait for the pads to be mounted and the clashing to begin
No school on Friday. Maybe take the kids. is there practice on Friday?
When Wallace urges, people listen.
Good morning Tsaikos!
Happy Malasada Day!
I’d rather have the NCAA tournament berth. MVB on a 2-week road trip after this weekend. Good time to use the SSC. I’ll ask the Screechers if they wanna go.
It’s not easy to forgive, but time does heal all wounds…
Good story, ST!
3/11 (Friday) — Practice No. 2 (sweats), 4:30-6:30 p.m. Coaches clinic/social, 6:30 p.m.
Time does not heal all wounds. Many go to their graves with puss oozing from their wounds.
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GOOD MORNING HAWAII and all the ships at sea!
Good morning Tim – we are top 20!
We are also top period.
While life does provide opportunity to make mistakes….it also provides equal opportunity to do great things. Both Wags and Riley have shown significant signs of doing more great things for UH and the people of Hawaii and Warrior World.
bugaz – #9 No pads till Saturday.
Lots happening on Lower Campus Friday. Get there early to get good parking.
– Softball – UH vs Longwood 6:00 pm (scheduled – probably later) @ RWSS
– Baseball – UH vs Portland 6:35 pm @ Murakami Stadium
– Volleyball – UH vs UOP 7:00 pm @ SSC
– Football – Coaches clinic 6:30 pm @ Lecture Hall across SSC
(- Concert – 7:30 pm @ Orvis Auditorium)
Now that……was a press conference. I wonder/wish? if they have it on YouTube?
Would make for some good viewing….
good morning to yu’all
first and foremost congrats to dem wahines on winning anoddah tourny. good to see plenty yelllow ball tsaiko boosters and welcome to MW, daughter and son. missed at cc but caught up with dem at RWSS. small kind stuff’s, hitting coming around, small ball looking good, be patient at plate oddah team not giving anything good to hit, tighten up on defense no need rush ball first everything will fall into place.
kden added kudos to da warrior men and rainbow wahines for being named pow for their outstanding performance this past week. how to battle and show the fighting spirit.
It was one of those events where you kind of say: Oh, this is not a good idea at all.
Live and learn.
Got my new phone, so I’m going to see if I can actually take videos. Practicing for Pro Day.
Nice to see things play out as they have.
All’s well that ends well. Life is to short. 🙂
Top Twenny Five!
Mr. Da Punchbowl Kid,
“Life is to (sic) short”. At least we don’t have a lifespan of a gastrotrich.
My apologies, Mr. NCAA.
What brought a gastrotich to mind? Studying biology, are you?
Riley took a courageous position to defend the integrity of UH Athletics. Also remember the results of that firing. The downturn of UH football and recovery has not been easy or done.
Rainbow Wahine remain at #14 in NFCA Top 25
http://nfca.org/top25/index.php?cat_id=1&poll_id=386
Mr. Da Punchbowl Kid,
LOL, I was just thinking of something that doesn’t live too long. Not much of a social life. 😆
I appreciate Riley stepping up for what he believed at the time, which was mixed messages to coaches by the athletic administration. Graduation rate was the emphasis and little was done to assist the FB program in advancing either through aid or assistance. Like the firing of Red Rocha, the firing of Wagner was another sad and dispicable moment in UH athletics. I’m not faulting the reasons for the firing (i.e. losing seasons, etc.), but it surely could have been done alot better and definitely with a lot more “class”.
To me, the jury is still “out” on Jim Donovan, as many of us have not forgotten that event and his callous remarks to Riley. Time will tell if Donovan will eventually fall on his sword…
By the way, I don’t recall Donovan ever apologizing to the public for his inappropriate remarks…
I also applaud Riley and Wags for their integrity and continued goodwill towards UH despite the lousy way they were treated…
I also want to note that Larry Price was also treated poorly when he left the UH athletic program…Yet, I know the “coach” still tries to support the school…
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Kazz,
Have you heard anything concerning Kaia’s left arm, since her MRI yesterday? Hoping for good news.
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Happy Birthday Pam Uyeda!
Today is also the birthday of Mrs. Long Time UH Fan.
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bowwar — I vaguely recall the event and remember thinking that JD sure looked like a bad guy or stooge for the administration… that was the way it seemed anyway, by the way it was reported. I wonder if some reporter or blog host who was there and a friend to both men would elaborate on the full context of that remark…. 😕
Since then, many Tsai-kos have met and talked with Jim Donovan. I am certain that “no class” in dealing with his people and coaches will NOT be his legacy as A.D.
28 Egan . . . i have to disagree. UH football has recovered, if not surpassed its status from the Wagner days.
SteveM,
The news conference was televised and the remark for the two for one was overheard by the mic.. I still remember RW raising his hand questioning the reason for the dismissal and JD mutteriing about making it two for one. Hugh Yoshida’s command not JD. JD was just the messenger boy.
Sorry to say that includes a LOT of the former athlete’s.
Happy birthday to Pam Uyeda!
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Any more openings on the coaching staff?
Prolly someone in Columbus, OH going be looking by the end of the week… 😯
Happy Birthday Mrs LTUHF! God bless!!
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SteveM?Hawaiianbod,
Drove past Veterans’ Memorial this morning…had a nice thought for LTUHF. 🙂
Happy Birthday Lorna!
Happy Birthday Mrs LTUH Fan (Lorna).
Many have been deserving of a more respectful dismissal. Accentuate the positive by making ithings Pono. Never too late to make *Ho’okupu.*
We ask it of our players & coaches, why not the administrators of the athletic department? Spring cleaning time, just do it!
d1 – thanks for sharing! Rest in Peace LTUHF.
A special Happy Birthday to Lorna.
#37 – Better and better, thanks braddah!
Softball rankings out. The Wahine fell one spot in the ESPN poll from 16th to 17th. Remains the same in the USA Today poll at 14th. Still no national stats out. Wonder if New Mexico State’s Hoku Nohara, a Kamehameha graduate, is leading the nation in home runs with 14, a remarkable number.
USA Today/NFCA poll March 8
Rank Team Record Pts Pvs
1 Georgia (20) 17-1 731 1
2 Florida (8) 19-0 726 2
3 Alabama (1) 20-1 672 3
4 Arizona (1) 19-2 663 4
5 Washington 16-0 635 5
6 Michigan 22-0 595 8
7 Tennessee 19-2 571 7
8 Arizona St. 17-1 539 9
9 UCLA 16-4 518 6
10 Oklahoma 17-5 488 10
11 California 12-2 438 1
12 Texas 16-3 409 12
13 Stanford 17-3 361 16
14 Hawai’i 16-4 344 14
15 Oregon 18-4 332 13
16 Nebraska 14-2 297 15
17 Louisiana-Lafayette 18-2 291 17
18 Missouri 11-3 244 18
19 Texas Tech 22-0 187 20
20 Oklahoma St. 15-5 175 19
21 LSU 15-5 165 21
21 Texas A&M 14-6 102 22
23 Baylor 19-2 83 NR
24 Auburn 17-2 58 24
25 Syracuse 16-3 27 NR
Others receiving votes:
Houston 22, Kentucky 17, Fresno St. 16. Georgia Tech 13, Notre Dame 12, Virginia 6, S.C. Upstate 3, Long Beach St. 3, DePaul 3, Kansas 2, Tulsa 1, Memphis 1
Dropped out:
No. 23 Fresno St., No. 25 Houston
What does supsending Jim Tressel for two early season games and a chump change fine do?
NOTHING.
Doesn’t teams like OSU schedule body bag opponents for the first two games anyway??? The GA’s could “coach” these games on the sidelines.
$250,000.00 is a lot of money, but Tressel ain’t gonna starve.
Another one gets away with it…
#ESPN.COM/USA Softball Collegiate Top 25#
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ESPN.COM/USA Softball Collegiate Top 25
(Records through March 7, 2011)
TEAM PTS PVS
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1. FLORIDA (11) (19-0) 484 3
2. ALABAMA (8) (20-1) 472 1
3. GEORGIA (1) (17-1) 447 2
4. ARIZONA (19-2) 435 4
5. MICHIGAN (22-0) 414 5
6. WASHINGTON (16-0) 398 6
7. ARIZONA ST (17-1) 382 7
8. TENNESSEE (20-2) 371 8
9. OKLAHOMA (17-5) 321 11
10. UCLA (15-4) 307 9
11. CALIFORNIA (12-2) 293 10
12. STANFORD (17-3) 266 14
13. TEXAS (16-3) 258 12
14. (tie) MISSOURI (11-3) 220 17
14. (tie) OREGON (17-4) 220 13
16. UL LAFAYETTE (18-2) 216 18
17. HAWAII (15-4) 181 16
18. OKLAHOMA ST (15-5) 167 15
19. TEXAS TECH (22-0) 125 19
20. NEBRASKA (14-2) 115 20
21. LSU (15-5) 105 21
22. BAYLOR (19-2) 66 NR
23. KENTUCKY (14-3) 47 24
24. TEXAS A&M (14-6) 39 22
25. HOUSTON (16-4) 37 23
Dropped Out: No. 25 AUBURN
Others Receiving Votes: AUBURN 30, SYRACUSE 28, UAB 24,
NOTRE DAME 9, OHIO ST 7, FRESNO ST 5, DEPAUL 4, LONG BEACH
ST 3, USC UPSTATE 3.
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For the WAC and OUR RPI, the four losses by us and Fresno State were suffered at the hands of ranked opponents or at least teams receiving votes.
The ideal situation is that we and Fresno State do not lose any games from now until we meet April 1st-2nd.
More probable for us than Fresno State, but still a TALL task for any team to pull this off.
dpk…happy fat tuesday?
dpk…it is actually happy malasada day.
thanks to fellow pordagee brother ahoe for reminding us all this morning.
went down to leonard’s bakery to pick up a dozen of kapahulu’s finest, fluffy, moist, sweet and hot malasada’s but the line was around the block.
gotta hand it to those leonard’s folks for initiating the happy malasada day tbey knew what they knew what they were doing eh?
I stand, er, sit, corrected.
The games against California next week are going to be really big ones. If at all possibility we need to win the games against California. Not to mention all the other games as well.
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Looks like the Pac-10 is going to be a battle again, in softball. I am a little surprised at Washington, after losing the Nations best pitcher last year.
#38: Steve M…
Yes, the event was on video…I wonder if anyone has that video archived. Whether he was merely acting on Hugh Yoshida’s behalf or not, what Jim Donovan said to Wallace was in very poor taste. In this new age of “transparency”, that type of handling of personnel situations will NOT cut-it in today’s world. As I’ve said, the jury is still out on JD and how he handles various things such as contract renewals and terminations.
Harlan Cleveland’s lasting legacy was the poor handling of Red Rocha’s termination…
By the way, its ironic that MACK paid for his inappropriate remarks and apologized…I never heard JD ever apologize for his snafu back then. I think that would do alot towards pono…
If Jim Donovan apologized to Wallace in private and face-to-face, I imagine that would be between the two.
If this already happened then it was “pono” to those involved and not for anyone else’s own gratification.
Just because it wasn’t made public, doesn’t mean it never happened.
Anyone here attending this event? If so, shall we plan to sit together?
Nothing on Spring football?
BIK
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Longwood University defeated Virginia twice today. Longwood faces Na Wahine on March 11 in the Pepsi Malihini tourney.
Virginia defeated UH 6-4 in the Cathedral City Classic.
Longwood is 12-3 for the year with their ace Brianna Wells is 10-3. Teams are batting .173 against her.
Ralph,
Curious why Longwood is not ranked, or even mentioned as one of the teams receiving votes category. Seems they have been a few Top 20 teams this year, or am I wrong?
the Red Hawks of Miami of Ohio is 8-6 with a team BA of .276. No information on Tokyo.
The weather should be better so come on out to the RWSS this Thursday at 6 pm when the Na Wahinne face off with Tokyo in an exhibition before the start of the Pepsi Malihini Tourney on Friday.
Longwood doesn’t have a lot of quality wins except for Norte Dame and Virginia.
Longwood softball field was built in 2008 with locker rooms and lounge, restrooms and sits 300.
A small school can have a lounge and locker room for its team but UH can’t, auwe!
Ralph,
Any way to build locker rooms adjacent to the batting cage building, seems like there is room there.
Ralph,
State of Virginia… State of Hawaii.
Kazz,
The boosters built a clubhouse for the girls under the 1st base bleachers, why not build a lockerroom for the girls under the 3rd base bleachers.
Kazz small school vs big school, relatively speaking UH is much bigger than Longwood. A non resident pays close to $29K in tuition to attend Longwood.
Should we raise the athletic fees to compensate for the low tuition that UH charges? LOL 🙂
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The clubhouse and a functioning locker room with running water for showers and toilets are two different things.
I’ve heard people say: “Well, how about just a place to change and no need for showers.”
Well, last time I checked most players will want to shower after a game, especially when they are covered in dirt or “mud” and they eventually have to walk back to the complex to shower anyway.
If they are going to build something, it has to be a full blown locker room with showers and their own bathroom.
No sense in building a space for them to change, but having showers and their own bathroom still located 80-90 yards away.
If anything, just a bathroom for player and coach use only would be a MAJOR improvement and probably cheaper… PROBABLY.
Ralph,
Read my quick post again.
Size of the institution has nothing to do with it.
The institution is only as efficient as the system that is running it.
You give $50,000.00 to a efficient, but small entity and you give the same amount to a large JUMBLED entity and I doubt the results of what they do will be the same.
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Kazz,
From what I have seen, the clubhouse has electricity and running water, or am I wrong. Who installed the electricity and running water?
Kazz,
If I am not mistaken, all material and labor did not cost the UH anything, since everything was donated. With the interest in Wahine Softball, right now, why not see if a lockerroom can be build the same way, via donated material and labor.
@Kev 1
I was referring to the attendance figures.
That MWC survey is dumb. Why should I answer questions about sports other than football?
al-
A correction of a correction.
Fat Tuesday falls on March 8th this year, the same day as Malasada Tuesday. How appropriate that the two days should coincide this year. 😆
Just wondering, if the Booster Club Officers were to ask the Wahine Softball Team what they would rather have, a Championship Ring or a Lockerroom, I wonder what their answer would be.
If the Termite Company that did the NBC Concert Hall, for free, there should be a company out there that would build the Wahine Softball Team’s lockerroom for free, also.
The Booster Club needs to take advantage of the interest in the Wahine Softball Team, and see what they can do for the Team, besides just getting them Championship rings.
wsf…why don’t you join the booster club?
you are full of ideas.
dpk…okay i’ll accept that. hmmm. you just reminded me to make a two minute run to leonard’s.
do i get the plain ones or the cinnamon sugar?
they also have cream filled ones?
one or two?
dozen that is.
al:,
#94, Need to check with Pomai, or Kazz, before you make a statement like that.
al:,
Are you member of the Booster Club, if so, how much did you contribute to the booster club?
a locker room at the softball stadium site for both home and visitors with complete plumbing to accommodate up to 35 each. with all the modern day ammenities would probably run about 500k to 750k to design and construct.
then, where would the monies to maintain the facility come from?
and since you are at it, shouldn’t a public restroom be included.
oh, so now we are gazing at a 1.2 m dollar project and you still need maintenance/custodial services.
no, i am not a booster of the softball team but i am a booster of the athletic programs in general.
what statement concerns you?
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ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs,
Today’s post about the Bob Wagner firing got me going again. This is one of the poorest leadership actions I have ever seen. The other one was the hiring of Fred VA. Riley was standing up for his convictions. Was he right? He jeopardized his relationship with his boss. As it turned out, his boss finally left, and Riley remained and was able to leave on his own terms. However, he also made a poor decision by naming his successor. As it turned out, the Fumbler made it worse. Leadership is an art, we have not had very many “artists”. JD may cut it but like most things, artists are not appreciated until they are gone.
I would suggest that all the talk about a locker room should be left up to the coach and AD.
al:,
Just talking lockerroom for the Wahine’s only. There are already public restroom there. Seems like you have never been to RWSS, otherwise you would have known that there were public restrooms. The same people that maintain the lockerroom at Les Murakami Stadium. My guess it is the players, or grounds crew.
re: Bob Wagner
He was a heck of a coach and a classy guy and he was let go by UH in a way that illustrates UH at its worst. They (UH) totally lacked class in the clue-less way they dealt with the situation and JD showed that for a guy with a “nice guy” persona, he could show that he can really be a jerk on occasion too. Incidentally, Wagner did what Tomey could not…Beat BYU. It was he that brought Paul Johnson in to usher in a new paradigm where the Offense could be high-scoring and exciting and every bit as aggressive as the D was, as opposed to Tomey’s model.
al –
I’ll be home if you want to stop by and make amends with some fresh, hot, malasadas. They are normally kapu with my diet, but I’d happily accept a dozen if it makes you feel better. 😉
wsf…you guessed it right. i have never been to watch a softball game live. i have walked past many times on my way to the murakami and to observe football practices.
i guess that is doable then, a locker room. i would think visitor accomodations would be nice too.
dpk…whoa, sorry bull, i got your post too late. i ran off to leonard’s and we just polished off the last dozen.
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RE: #105
My, how times have changed… used to be the Kid ran up and down the blog trying to get at Al’s fuud. Now, he wants home delivery. 🙄 Kid, I gotta point out that…ahhhh, well, Al knows where I live too… so share little please…
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spring roster is out some new faces…okay, no faces because no pictures. but, you get the picture.
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maybe it is just me because i am a numbers guy.
don’t you think the roster for football should be like this.
tim b*****
aka da punchbowl kid
kamehameha schools-kapalama
blocking back
forty: 9.7
vj: 06 ”
bench: 2 1/2 times
short shuttle: not attempted
favorite food: malasadas, lots of it
bio: blah, blah, blah………….
Looking at the roster, this is going to be a very young team, lot of freshmen, and sophomores.
Steve, your BS is nauseating.
Are you going to any of the baseball games this weekend? I would still bitch slap you like how I said I would a few months ago.
The 2007 Wahine Softball Team, that fell one game short of going to the Softball College World Series, got a clubhouse build for their accomplishment. I think the 2010 Wahine Softball Team, that went to the Softball College World Series, should at least get a lockerroom for what they accomplished. The Booster Club should be working toward that end.
Longboarder,
Now you are truly showing your true colors. That you really do not care about the athletes at all, and what they accomplish.
Longboarder,
I imagine you do not even belong to any UH Athletic Booster Club.
thought you said “you weren’t Steve”….
wsf,
al made a good suggestion for you to join the softball booster club. No need to get defensive and get on his case. You made a number of suggestions for the booster club. As the saying goes, “Talk is cheap.” So in my opinion, it’s a great suggestion he made where you can help tranlate talk into action. But then again, I’m probably guilty of making all kinds of suggestions and not be willing to back it up. Kudos to Kazz, Pomai, and all who volunteer and labor for our Warriors and Wahine behind the scenes.
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might be worth skipping the rainbow drive inn lunch.
rainbow warriors are currently a 2pt favorite in vegas as compared to 4 1/2pt underdog last week.
Eh al,
C’mon, join the WSB booster club! 🙂
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al, you know da boss not going let you go! Donate those coins to the booster club so they can build that clubhouse!
I’m sure wsf can help upkeep the locker rooms for free.
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