Hall ascends to No. 2 job

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morning hbod

top early 5

estes and moniz were both good soccer players.

mornin’

ST: Thanks for the pics – yeah, football year-round !!!

i like pake’s…taro duck.

eh, howzit kk and brother al!

al – mom is fine. Thanks!

b4 i go, PRAYERS, BLESSINGS and (((HUGS))) for (J)J’s mom.

take care brother. We are here for you.

Anklebiters (AZ) poster since March 2007.

Congrats!

Good night everyone.

so tate forcier is the sleeper.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/sports/sportsnews/20110615_ExMichigan_QB_Forcier_wants_to_be_a_Warrior.html

NCAA Basketball @ Manoa Gym Starts This Week Thursday & Saturday (Some Tuesday) Nights… Sensley, Young Nash, maybe Derek Low … and the New ‘Bows (Recruits as they arrive) pretty much spread over every team …

EXTRACT From Brian’s UHBB Site:

Fans of the annual NCAA Summer League at the Manoa District Park are in for a treat this year. The Hawaii men’s basketball team’s participation is heavy with at least one current player on each of the six teams’ rosters. Not everybody on the 2011-12 team is in, but it’s most of them. There are also several former Rainbow Warriors of recent vintage, including Julian Sensley, Bobby Nash and others.

The league starts up on Thursday, but keep in mind that all of the UH players haven’t arrived yet for the 2011-12 season. Many will be coming in closer to the July 5 start date of the second summer school session, and will join their teams at that point.

My colleague Cindy Luis received a copy of the rosters. Here’s the breakdown:

Army: Gerry Blakes, Hauns Brereton; Central Medical: Vander Joaquim; Electricians Hawaii: Zane Johnson, Trevor Wiseman, Pi‘i Minns; Kainoa Chu*; Grantco Pacific: Davis Rozitis, Bobby Miles; National Fire Protection: Ronnie Stevens, Joston Thomas; Wealth Strategy Partners: Dillon Biggs.

* possible UH walk-on

Honestly though….if you asked me to bet you $0.25 that he was the guy, I wouldn’t have.

It’s kinda a big surprise. For good or bad.

hope the sleeper is a keeper and not a grim reaper…you never know. if he shows that he has his act together, is academically sound and wants to do things the right way then I hope he gets his chance here as we have many great examples of those that were given a chance and succeeded. you never know…

Good Hump Day to all!

Jason’s link from yesterday’s blog (I just caught up) pointed out one interesting thing about the Hawaii Bowl: UH was forced to pay for 965 Hawaii Bowl tickets, costing the school $43,290…that is not a small amount of money for UH. The Hawaii Bowl forces both teams to buy 10,000 tickets, and we know that more than 10,000 UH fans attended the game…but the Hawaii Bowl only counts the tickets sold through UH I guess.

http://www.thewizofodds.com/the_wiz_of_odds/2011/06/hawaii-bowl.html

I hope that Samson Anguay is okay!

As Momo mentioned, we’ll be out of the country for 11 days…I worked *crazy* hours yesterday to get my work done before the trip, and have more work (and packing) today. I hope that there are a lot of good recruiting news to catch up with when I get back.

Aloha Kakahiaka!

Congrats to all who are doing well. take care to those who need to and nitey nite for me.

I was not aware the Wyoming qb expressed interest in UH. He was very good, with less baggage. It may simply be a numbers game with the scholarships, even though we stand to lose two qbs next year.

Thanks Avis/SteveT for the goods!!! There is/was an anklebreaker on here, maybe that’s why it comes to mind first as I usually lurk.

SteveM: Thanks…

Darn, I hope I didn’t wake ST up with my text since there’s a 3 hour time difference 🙂

UH’s 2012 & 2013 Mountain West opponents (home and away) have been announced! Check it out.

http://www.themwc.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/mwc/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2012and2013MWFBMatchups

Great Morning All!

According to The Former Coach: #1 qualification for RnS QB is accuracy

…and if you can’t be with the one you love

Honey, love the one you’re with.

Good morning Tsaikos!!

Happy Hump Day!!

Congrats to Jeff Hall! Hoping that either Robyn or Vern gets the asst’s job.

Welcome to the Warrior ohana, Jack Damuni.

Garret & Momo and ohana – have a great trip!! If you have time in Barcelona, walk thru Las Ramblas and the open market, see the La Sagrada Familia cathedral and sample the great seafood. Some of the signs will be in Catalan, which, IMO, is not even close to Spanish, so …

ST, how am I supposed to vouch for you sending out the prizes?

See some of you at high noon!

Duffer: Helicopter!

#48 head for Schofield, pass it go over the airplane bridge, keepgoing stay to your right, go over the next bridge and keep going. If you reach the Polynesian Cultural center you went too far. Turn around and go straigh, it should be to your right afteryou pass Kahuku.

Got that?

ST, do you know if the decision by the Wyoming qb was tied at all to whether he’d see playing time in the near future? I’m guessing a guy that saw that much action would entertain a move unless there was some assurance that he’s be the projected #1 after sitting out.

My guess is the UH staff would likely stick to the scripted “it’s an open competition, and the best man will lead the team, to be determined after camp.” It’s worked so far.

Good morning folks! This morning is another beautiful oyster…somebody bring the hot sauce to the CC today!!!

#60 The only thing I drop out of any more, is the bar stool. However; we may need a plan to get you guys some Poke on that day. Will check with Aloha Cargo. Keep in touch; you may need to arrange for pickup on your way to TG.

My quick $.02 about giving second chances. The poster boys are probably Colt, Davone, and Pisa. Most folks know that Colt and Davone had clean records except their one run-in with the law. Pisa was another story since he had a history of trouble. JJ considered many but only picked a few. Their families’ history and attitude was a big factor. How they responded in a 1-1 interview was another. Both Colt and Davone were fairly easy gambles. Pisa only was given a chance because of his mom, Ruta Aunese. Once June met her it was a done deal. One only had to meet her to feel the inner strength and determination of this woman. Her spiritual strength was ten-fold. Pisa knew that he had a final chance to make good and his mom was going to see to it. This is not hearsay. I spoke to both separately, 1 on 1. Early on, June took chances to bring talent in. More than a few were not successful gambles, so he refined his process and criteria to a point that he became very successful with it. It would be interesting to ask Mack what his philosophy is on the subject.

I like the fact that Forcier is considering UH. Bring the best here. I believe the coaches will do what’s best for the program to succeed. Since he wouldn’t be eligible until after Moniz and Austin use up their eligibility, may the best man win the job. Its always good to have a more than capable backup to come in just in case. I could be wrong, but didn’t Colt and Moniz, not start their first game here? Seems like we will be having very good QBs from now and into the future. Too bad only a few actually get much practice time,much less game time.

Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂

Yep, Tsai knows when to hold ’em and when to lay the cards on the table. It doesn’t appears that Forcier (gotta love the kaona in THAT name) is a done deal yet. We’ll see soon enough.

The bigger question is whether he can come in and master the RnS quickly enough to bypass the very able QBs in the stable.

Any interest in UH from a player of this caliber speaks well volumes about the program.

Mr. Tsai –

Your pics improve. Great stuff, like whetting our appetites for the setting of the feast come season time. Excitement and anticipation builds. Keep up the good work.

McTRUCK #44 – If he does transfer, and if he does not become THE QB, would he disappear from the scene?

Wouldn’t he lose another year of eligibility leaving him with only two years for someplace else. For some reason, I think it would only be one year left but it may be two.

I also think that even if Rolo and Mack are salivating over getting someone with his potential, they are still going to play it cool to anyone that asks.

The last thing you want is a kid who has had his ego stroked to read that Coach XYZ is dying to get you to play. no no no.

Coaches gotta play the cards close to the vest…so even if they may seem uninterested or “content”…that just may be part of the overall plan.

Tate: Hey I want in on your program.

Mack: Yeah kid, but we are stacked at QB.

Tate: Well I know I can compete with anyone out there and can bring this team success if you gave me a spot.

Mack: I’ll think about it.

if they wanted him they would have said so by now.

#79,

i dunno about that. no matter what anyone says, i still think Mack is capable of mind games.

Just say no. Go for the freshmen recruits.

alrighty then. off topic but not family related: what is the purpose of studying and finding black holes? i don’t see any in my lifetime swallowing me up. they’re friken like millions or whatevers lightyears away! ahhhh, got that off of my lazyazz chest.

with moniz graduating, the spring of 2012 may determine who starts later that year. a depth chart will result and with four juniors-to-be vying for the one grail, i believe that one or two will depart the univeristy of hawaii in search of playing time once the projected starter is named.

others may leave as well.

therefore, it is imperative to have a boatload of qb’s.

the great tate forcier aquisition is a no brainer. he is better than at least five of our qb scholies in stock without tossing one throw on lower manoa. even then, im giving credit for system experience for the remainder. look, forcier was “forced-out” by a system that looks for rbs as much as throwers. michigan recruits abram tanks to block for world-class sprinters. why not leave A2? why not scout about? that’s smart, not suspect. . and why shouldnt his parents gouse? they raised their boys to excell. nothing wrong in wanting the best for your kids. we only need to look @ our warrior mascot, vili, to grasp the nature of parents wanting the best for their children-athletes. ever hear of michele wie whom hawaii worships. c’mon, let the blue-chips fall where they may. what rolo and mac should be focusing on is pruning the qb unit and cutting-back on branches that are not bearing fruit.

there is no entitlement in college football if u dont produce.

hawaiiansun. you related to warriorsun? your six-pack is getting expensive.

how I spent my summer vacation. geez, something I always wanted to know.

#91, couch. same blogger, sorry. sometimes the monicor is empty and need to manually insert and inadvertently type hawaiiansun rather than warriorsun. it’s more lackadaisical than intentional.

thanx for the reminder. 🙂

opps….see, i did it again. lol.

gouse?

The urban dictionary has the only definition of this word and it may be inappropriate here.

100!

crap

97…”opps”?

there’s another blogger who spells it exactly like you do.

WWarrior,

Hope your ears don’t pop on the plane!

When I had a bad cold, my doc advised me not to fly.

But I did anyway, requesting a carafe of water to drink during the flight to “melt” the mucus.

Take care and good luck!

you are sharp today couch. grouse=gouse (grumble).

i say yes to focier, bc we will be in need of quality come 2012. jmo. our cupboards are bare. in case you are unaware–we play usc, byu, afa, csu, sdsu and fsu on the road that year….if you say no to tate, please mention qbs from our current stable you believe are capable to lead our O in ’12.

we need at least 3-deep.

So what is the supposed “deal” with Forcier’s parents?

Overbearing??? Pushy? Rude?

Wanting the best for your children will make parents fall over a cliff and rightfully so, but at the same time, the lessons they teach their children along the way in pursuing goals or working your way into the best athletic and academic situation possible is just as important as being “pushy” or whatever they are perceived to be.

Wanting the best for your child and doing what you can do ensure that is one thing. Being jerks about it is another… (passing along the family traits, if you will…)

In talking with parents of student-athletes, I’ve been lucky enough to meet those that know where their boundries are. In college you are a young adult and kids need to learn mommy and daddy aren’t going to fight your battles for you.

Like Denzel Washington’s character in “Remember The Titans”:

Oh that’s sweet, yeah, waive goodbye to your mama boy, cause when you get on that bus, you ain’t got no mama.”

good day yu’all

much hype today about warrior fball, must be the 2011 season is around the corner. my say is just wait till they are on the field to see if things pan out for da best. no use getting frustrated or over excited till then ….. nuff said

al all’s good talk with jj, we spoke this morning so no worries, keep prayer just in case

will be at JM first cc with my guest see whomever shows up mane’0

*ahem* “WAVE” not “WAIVE”… sorry.

mac is a toughie and im sure he can handle parents. i know he can. ive seen it. actually, that maybe his strength and he relates fairly and straight-up. give the coaches some credit–this isnt the youth-leagues.

I’m sure Mac & Co. will do their due diligence with Forcier. The last thing they need on their hands for a few years is another Graunke.

I believe Coach Mack also relies on input from hosting players on how well a recruit will fit in. You might be able to fool the coaches but you ain’t fooling the players.

TG was never the high school phenom that tate was and never put up the numbers forcier did as a true frosh before suffering injuries. they are different style qbs.

TG had other issues.

im assuming tate will be cleared academically by UH and otherwise.

if he is–and opts for hawaii–the warriors score bigtime. jmo.

the forcier bros transferred from programs that either went through coaching changes (neuheisel/rodriquez) or had an all-american nesting with tenure (chad henne). the family is gung-ho football, wolverine supporters and run a successful limousine business in the sd area.

great second chance for forcier and i believe if he has it hawaii will present the best opportunity for him to fight for top dog. im sure david graves would welcome the competition. it makes both better and adds demension.

it would be interesting if say forcier comes here. imagine if he and graves are the top two. both would drive opposition nuts with their collective ability to run (and fast).

ST, if you are ever in need of a photographer, hire Gigi, she takes excellent pics.

You know that the perception of the WAC is bad when the *Big Sky* commissioner is looking down on the WAC. It sounds like the Big Sky is trying to get Idaho and Utah State…

Fullerton said the WAC has had contact with at least six Big Sky schools during its recent expansion effort — Montana, Montana State, Cal Poly, UC Davis, Sacramento State and Portland State. Idaho State is also a member of the Big Sky.

“It’s not that we’re not ready to move. We’ve got schools that are ready to move if they get a good proposal. They could move and make it very easily. Not being ready to move is not correct,” Fullerton said.

“We’re in a better place than the WAC is.”

Fullerton said WAC members Idaho and Utah State would be ideal members of his league and said he is exploring creative ways to lure the two schools. Idaho was a member of the Big Sky from its 1963 inception until 1996.

“If down the road something happens that those guys understand and realize they can’t catch the big guys and there’s something else we can do that makes sense and bring some efficiencies back to the budgets of those schools … Utah State and Idaho are the right kind of schools,” Fullerton said.

http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2011/06/15/bmurphy/big_sky_commish_were_a_better_place_wac

wsun…i am talking about next year. after the spring of 2012 the depth chart going in to the summer of 2012 will be announced. it is then that i believe a couple or two qb’s will be leaving the program in search of pt.

Yes, Forcier has skills. He is not better than 1/2 of our QB’s. I think it’s more like 2/3. 🙂

The only thing going against Tate is all of the off the field stuff. On the field, you can’t deny his skill set. Bradduh is bad.

I agree that Mac and players will do their due diligence. If TF becomes a Warrior, it won’t happen through simple, knee-jerk reactions. I’m excited about the possibility tho!

last one…so this 4 star wr a top 20 nationwide guy, who earlier committed to usc, says, that he now is going to trip a few places. hawaii is of high interest to him because we toss the ball about often and his qb is coming here. that would be justin alo, the qb.

Must be Darreus Rogers that you’re talking about…maybe we’ll get him because of the NCAA hammer coming down.

OF COUSE THE GAME IS PLAYED ON THE FIELD AND ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. BUT WITH ROLO RUNNING THE OFFENSE AND ARANDA RUNNING THE DEFENSE AND TOMEY RUNNING THE SPECIAL TEAMS, HARDLY LIKELY THE UH WILL FAIL. AND GIB, WHAT BUSINESS DOES HE HAVE HAVING A 7″ FORWARD? GIB HAS LOADED FOR BEAR!!!!

#139,

A 7″ forward? That’s pretty tiny. lol

#141 I would say that, 7 inches is long enough. But then again this is a no obscenity blog.

Darreus Rogers committed to USC in January but the four-star wide receiver from Carson, Calif., said this past weekend at a 7-on-7 tournament that he considers it a soft pledge and he will definitely take visits.

“A soft verbal is a soft verbal,” Rogers said. “I can’t sign until I’m a senior so I still have my options open.”

Arizona State, Washington, Oregon and Hawaii are the four main contenders for Rogers, a 6-foot-2, 194-pound prospect who finished with 45 receptions for 1,347 yards and eight touchdowns in his junior season.

Hawaii might be a surprise but Carson quarterback Justin Alo signed there last recruiting cycle and Rogers might want to follow him to the islands.

“My quarterback Justin Alo is going out there to play so I’m going to take a trip out there in January,” Rogers said.

“It’s a big passing team. I love that and I’m a receiver so they spread the field out and I can do what I do best.”

http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=rivals-1227084

A FRIEND OF GIB’S TOLD ME GIB’S DREAM ONE DAY IS START AN ALL 7″ LINE-UP. JUST LIKE JUNE JONES WISH TO PLAY A GAME PASSING EVERY PLAY. P.T BARNUM REINCARNATED. CAN YOU IMAGINE THE CROWD IT’LL DRAW TO THOSE GAMES?

I can just picture Mac now….sitting at his desk licking his chops! A big 20 oz. Ribeye steak from DK Kodama’s! Forcier’s the best option at QB in 2012 for UH! Experience and talent that none of the returnees will have next year. 2012 is not so worrisome…it’s the 2013 schedule! USC, BYU, Washington, Boise, Fresno, Nevada, Navy, Air Force, Army, etc. Gotta roll the dice Mac!

#148,

No argument there!

#148,

They should put that quote at the top of every letter they send out to a perspective WR. Make it a part of the letterhead.

Mac’s decision is will he lose Alo if Forcier comes.

Forcier can play here as well as any we have had before

Parents are cool, they just let the kids choose too much in HS and College

Watch the Furman QB next year. Brothers are very similar

Maybe Utah State and Idaho need to re-evaluate some things if an FCS football conference is targeting them. 😯

This b-ball team could be very good.

Re #136, and the observation “this years team is the only one loaded with talent at every spot,” that begs a good question. What is viewed as the weakest link on the team?

In my opinion, it is kicker. We have some candidates, but I am not aware of anyone capable of deep kickoffs. Giving the ball up at the 35-40 yard line, instead of the 20-25, may hurt us at some point. Someone to kick it deep would be a nice weapon to have.

Nothing has changed in this place. Same useless conversations. Same rah rah rah for rolo and fat mac. Same rah rah rah for juco transfers from cali and australia. Same tired people making same tired comments.

Will check back in a few months to see if still the same sorry people making the same tired analysis and commentaries.

Uce out.

All quiet on the “Eastern” Front?

After the Tsaiko invasion was it indeed a “Happy Day” for the restaurateur?

*burp*

Howzit! Good fuuud and conversation today at the CC. KK’s surprise guest was none other than UKU @ LA!! Must do it again soon.

BG’s still talking about a practice T-gate to get ready for the season. 😆

jm#### – you forgot to mention that gigi was NOT part of the ladies in muus group…

HI GIGI!!!

Welcome home UKU@LA!

A-house/al,

I’ll post something later tonight about what can happen with a “step-down” transfer.

couple of points to clear up the air pertaining to alo.

alo grayshirts 2011, enrolls in jan 2012 and redshirts in sept. if forcier enrolls he has 3 to play 2. which means his last year will be in 2013, the same as graves. alo will be a redshirt soph in 2014, when both are gone. if he is good, he will vie for a starting position. that gives him three years at the helm. no one, forcier or graves, is a threat to alo unless he doesnt cut the mustard. that is the bottomline. if he has the stuff, the field is clear for a three-year tenure at starting QB.

#175,

Thanks for clearing this issue up. I think some fans would be worried about that particular conflict looking down the road.

If its a non-issue, might as well give the guy a shot.

gigi-fest???

old ladies in white muus?

haha

yeah, I am an old lady

but no mo white muu.

Glad you were all able to find parking over at Happy Days.

Last time I was there, I spent 20 minutes circling around for a parking stall.

Delicious dim sum, tho!

WSun,

just curious.

do you predict a losing season come 2012?

CONGRATS TO KOLTEN WONG!!! 1ST TEAM ALL-AMERICAN… AMERICAN… A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N…

re # 183.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/college/awards/all-america-teams/2011/2611952.html

#181,

No not a losing season but not a 10 win season either. Should we have an experienced and talented playcaller on the field it will make for a gratifying season.

2013 on the other hand could be real special.

I don’t usually weigh in on recruits, but Tate Forcier sounds like someone we do not want in the program. With the kinds of actions and academic problems he’s had, I don’t care if he’s a highly rated QB. We don’t need those kinds of problems. When you recruit, you look at the whole person, and so far Mack & Co. have done a great job at bringing in players with stability. We don’t need the drama or academic question marks that he’s had. You want to go into the Hawaii Bowl and not have your #1 QB? What about the morale of the team members who’ve been working their tails off to keep their grades up and work with their QB only to be left without him going into a(ny) game when you’ve all practiced together to get that timing down? Yes, you have backup QBs, but that’s not the ideal situation. I say NO to Forcier.

Slugger 189,

Hope you would have said no to Brennan, Pisa, and Bess too. I am not going into detail about the subject matter of their problems but we all know they got their 2nd chance and made great use of it and turned into huge success stories.

As to the academic issues I don’t want to speculate if its easier to do well at UH than it is UM and whether he could succeed academically here.

All I feel is that its a gamble that we should take.

gigi,

here is a highlight video of Tate…what do you think of his mobility/speed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX4pBvWpVSo

#193 The video shows games played at home, though.

How was he on the road?

Nevertheless, I am impressed!

UH might be easier than UM academicly.

My cousin graduated from UH, then attended UM Dental School.

He said it was tough to get an A at UM.

UH football players have a much tougher time than Michigan. Big 10 is short hop from school to school as is the SEC. Away games mean you have to be disciplined at getting missed classes covered. Some schools have three games before classes start in Pac 10.

Any former players want to post what their class schedules were like and how they dealt with so much away time?

#197,

It’s going to be hard to get some ideas on this but I was wondering more about the difficulties of doing well in class. In general is it harder to get a A at UM?

I have a friend who got her undergrad degree at Yale and then came to UH to follow up on some classes to prep her for application to med school. She claimed that when it came to natural (hard) sciences, it was basically the same. When it came to some of the english and social sciences the way they crafted exams and grading system made it a whole lot easier to get an A.

wide receivers/slots…the loss of salas, pilares, bradley is devastating. we again have athletes now and coming in to the fall camp. this group will be bigger, faster, stronger but again very young. can mouse and rolo coach them up?

they have some game time experience but nothing that they could write home about last year. who’s fault?

instead of trying to get salas and pilares some draftable numbers, we should have been playing more guys in the fourth quarter. by the third game miah, stutz, bright, amadi, and company should be on track with moniz. but, again i’ll be surprised if we come out firing on all cylinders on day one especially when the oline is trying to find their way.

qb…moniz is. but, he needs to watch the completions while still standing and not on his back.

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (WOOD) – A former University of Michigan quarterback was the subject of a strange police call in Grand Rapids last month, according to an officer report released to 24 Hour News 8 on Thursday.

Tate Forcier, who quit the football team earlier this year, had locked himself in a bedroom of a third-floor apartment April 22, and was leaning out the window, the report states.

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/grand_rapids/GRPD-report-details-Forcier-incident

Congratulations to Al and the Boss! Happy Anny!

3 to play 2?

He turns 21 in August.

Just saying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Forcier

Like YAC?

Arrow routes…

d1shima:

June 15th, 2011 at 4:23 pm

3 to play 2?

He turns 21 in August.

Just saying.

paaaaaHHHHHHHHHHHHtayYYYYYYYYYYY!!!! 😆

Forcier would he consider a change in position? He can scramble and run,is elusive, I’m thinking slot back, his passing stats according to the star/ad articule ,touchdown to int ratio not so good, almost one to one. If he comes great but beyond his college career will he be suited for the next level at qb? Our draft picks recently have been from the receiver positions, from what I saw he would be a great slot.

Guy in the office:

June 15th, 2011 at 4:30 pm

I think he also said Forcier was regarded as “a punk” and said after his freshman season he became what everyone around Ann Arbor called a “prima donna.”

Well, if that’s the case then I call upon the “Wish Factor”.

As in ooo… I WISH that ———- WOULD COME HERE AND TRY THAT!!!

😈

WOT BRAH! LIKE TEST???

slugger sounds like the syracuse university official that put the nix on recruiting colt bc it would be a bad reflection on his institution.

brennan didnt go to a smaller school, he went to saddleback JC. it was in his neighborhood.

look, we have had worst qbs who have commited far more egregious acts. how quick we forget the transgressions of our current starter. there were more bad boys–coaches just kept a tight-lid on it and hoped for the best. mac handled TG and he managed the moniz affair well. it doesnt always work out well but when it does, a coach feels proud. mac is good at this kind of thing. if he pursues tate forcier, mac has first-hand knowledge. it appears forcier has passed mac’s vetting, otherwise he wouldnt allow ST to release the article. if tate wants hawaii, it’s a windfall for our warrior program.

Moniz? I don’t know what you are talking about.

What did he do wrong?

#214, apperently the “analysist” you speak about doesnt know what he is talking about.

a forcier transfer would dictate a redshirt year from the san diego prepster making competition between forcier and moniz, a senior, a moot discussion for old ladies at the crusader lounge. the rest of your anecdotal quotes are heresay dribble. look, if tate wants to play on sundays, hawaii is the #1 passing team in the country and in 2012 we have the horses to catch n run. i rest my case.

All interesting regarding Forcier. Last night before ST made the announcement, I speculated that if Forcier was the Sleeper, he probably wouldn’t be coming here. He was checking out many schools, was wishy washy on his commitment to Miami, had issues (academic and otherwise), and might react poorly if he didn’t start. I still hold that opinion that he’s not likely to play here. Even if he commits, he’s likely to change his mind…again.

gigi

#221 It’s probably best that the question you have is answered off-line.

gigi, u r gracie allen’s reincarnation. 🙂

Let’s play nicely please.

#230

Well said.

warriorsun: Thanks, and I hear what you’re saying, too. Just gotta be patient and see what develops and trust the coaches. Stephen sitting back and enjoying all the comments pouring in; sure helps fill the time until training camp opens.

Had a great 25th Wedding Anniversary today and tonite

Sealed domestic peace with a silver rose and a simple hand made card with no cliches

An expensive lunch at the Balboa Bay Club helped also.

2 days later in 1986 I was conducting a seminar on investing in front of 200 at Royal Hawaiian

Seems like yesterday

i respect phil steele, but his recent pick to favor idaho against hawaii on the road by 5–has left me doubting my favorite pundit.

further, passing in the hawaii program is not about ego. its about throwing the ball 1,000 times a day, learning to read defenses in a nano-look and becoming a field leader. it requires as much IQ as it does athletic gift. move the stick, cross the goal and repeat 7-9 times per game. that is a hawaii QB. ego? u gotta be a narcissistic weiner.

#219,

I’m not going to speak for her, but I would be willing to bet my house on the fact that if she says has some solid reasoning behind it from past professional work etc.

I can also tell you she is a bigger more devout UH fan than I am or ever will be pobably and in most cases I would defer to her knowledge of several football topics.

Happy Anniversary Dennis! Glad you had a good time! 😉

The debate so far has been interesting.

I don’t know the factual basis behind the controversy re: Forcier.

I am assuming that Coach Mac has done his homework and leave it to his judgment.

I think all this talk about Forcier is an injustice to our present and committed QB’s. Many a “4 star” athlete gets beat out by lesser “rated” players and even walk-ons. And we all know how skewed the rating systems can be. He has great upside and potential downside. He is NOT the holy grail. The coaches, nor the team, will not be fooled.

Moniz is better than he is by far in my opinion and a couple of others we have in line to the position are projected to be very good. Adding quality is good, but the team comes first and there is no “I” in TEAM!

#247,

I don’t think it does an injustice to anyone to consider new talent. Lou Holtz would say all living things are either living or they are dying. We should always be looking out for the next best thing…Being content while nice can be a dangerous thing.

When something like this presents itself it is for the coaches to make the call on whether or not its worth the time and to ultimately invest in it.

If he were to come in and get beat out by Nielsen, great. If he were to beat out everyone on our roster, great.

Ratings system and those “hard numbers” can be deceiving. Even Urban Meyer who started his career looking at the hard stats has come to realize that there is more to a player than just whats on paper.

The kid has started and won football games (including the same Notre Dame that beat us up in the Hawaii Bowl) while our other QB’s have not. True, its because they never had a chance yet but he has quality game experience.

no I in team, but there is one in WIN. haha.

ST must be having fun with this. He writes a story about an event that (IMHO) isn’t likely to happen, admits that he has no idea if Mac is interested, and sits back and watches the hits on his blog climb ;).

I do think that bringing in any junior in 2012 (meaning 4 junior QBs that season), might not be a good use of a scholarship unless 2 of them either changes position or leaves.

Interesting blog today. My thoughts:

As far as I know, Forcier has not been charged with a crime. That is already one HUGE point in his favor vs. Colt, Davone and Pisa.

Was/is he arrogant or cocky or immature? Apparently so, but he’s getting his comeuppance right now, isn’t he? When people are forced to realize that their unko does indeed stink, they either reassess/regroup and come back stronger or they fade away. Based upon the most recent police incident, it seems like Tate is in the middle of that process right now. Don’t know how he’ll come out of it, but if he comes out well, then he just may be the “holy grail”.

Also, if Forcier joins up, he will be a red shirt and a walk on. He’ll be forced to sit a year to await his chance at redemption on the field. He’ll have to use that year to get his head straight and his grades in order. If he really isn’t ready, he won’t make it through that year. IF his character is lacking as people have suggested, he’ll be gone in a month.

Finally, even if Tate is King Jerk, I seriously doubt he would ever do something as potentially divisive as our present QB is rumored to have done.

Let Mack and Rolo do their due diligence. If they say they’re willing to give him a shot, that’s good enough for me.

#253,

+1

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Twitter post that claims he has not contacted the UH or that UH has contacted him.

http://twitter.com/#!/QBForce/status/81100187107471360

I remember Moniz did something wrong and Mack kept him out of Spring practice in 2010.

But that was last year.

When you mentioned it was RECENT, I thought you meant THIS YEAR.

Ah, well, that’s water under the bridge.

Had a wonderful California sushi and tempura dinner at Tadashi with my family tonight.

Early Father’s Day treat by my 2 daughters.

So nice of them.

It’s great to have adult children who are able to treat their parents to a meal now and then.

Going to work on photos for my blog.

aloha.

Do you want to exchange links? Just accept my post and after that, post a comment on my page and I will accept yours. DOn’t post any adult sites please. Let’s get this link party started like it’s 1999

Congrats to Keiki Carlos!!! 😎

#260 That is exactly why I made that comparison. Since they will probably never play against each other or common opponents…the best apples to apples is to listen to what QB gurus such as Bob Johnson and others say about the QBs. If Bob Johnson’s opinion is that Shutter is as good or better than Jake Heaps who was the #1 ranked QB recruit in the country in 2010, that’s enough for me to feel pretty comfortable that were in pretty good shape with what we’ve got.

#158

David Rozitis played his freshman year at USC. He’ll be a Redshirt Soph. this coming season.

When would he be draft-eligible?

Re #266

Sorry, as far as I’m concerned, Kaluka burned his bridge. Why should he be allowed to work out at UH when he crapped all over our facilities? Get his ass out of there. He can work out at sc.

As far as I remember, access to the weight room is limited to UH students and employees. So in other words UH grads and donors are excluded and this guy is in? Why?

What next, jeremy perry getting rehab from our trainers?

#271,

Ok if you are talking about when both were being recruited and did not enroll in college yet then fine, that is an apples to apples comparison.

If you are trying to compare the both of them TODAY, no way can you make an argument that Shutter is better than Tate. (or that Tate is better than Shutter)

How many games has Shutter played against a BCS team? Div 1 opponent? Div 2 opponent? College team? ZERO.

If you said he has the most potential out of any of the QB’s in the country then fine I can live with that. He MAY BE able to compete with any QB in the nation, but he HASN’T…so until he does its the same as this talk about Tate coming to UH…Speculation.

There is tons of talk that Andrew Luck is a franchise NFL caliber QB 1st round pick etc etc..has all the tangibles and intangibles blah blah blah…But I wouldn’t say he is better than any QB currently playing in the NFL until he plays a down in the NFL.

Isn’t Jeremy Higgins walking on this Fall? Where does he fit in in the QB timeline?

Btw I wonder where Mistah Tsai is. mia.

It’s been really great and intense discussion/debate so far. Can tell everyone here is antsy for the start of the season.

Slugger,

I may be wrong but I think he has to redshirt 1 year, then 3 years to play 3.

Happy 25th Anniversary Dennis!

#286,

Yeah true…I wonder myself if Mouse will still be here. It seems as though it was a tough sell to get him to stay even this year.

Hopefully Rolovich will have absorbed as much as he could from him if he decides not to return.

I am not versed in the NCAA rules and policies….Does a letter not officially mean “contacting” an institution? lol

maybe there was no letter.

jeremy higgins will have to sit out a year and since he hasn’t used it, he will redshirt 2011.

he will then have three years eligibility left.

makes you wonder why mack and rolo refused to comment to ST.

299

they can’t comment, i believe the same recruiting rules apply whereby a coach may not comment until the appropriate dates or when a scholie agreement is made official.

#296,

I can buy that. Hawaii doesn’t have to “leak” that this high profile QB shown interest in our program.

The decision however has already been made that Tate won’t be given a chance and Tate denies it to save face.

Either way, UH will never need to comment further and Tate goes on his jolly way.

Interesting

Happy Anniversary, Al!

Is there something special or significant about today/this week in relation to college football?

timing is everything.

knowledge of this kid was known a while before…why choose today/this week to leak it?

something seems a bit off…

ok, ill go back and put my tinfoil hat on my head now.

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