Graham’s still the 1

Let’s get straight to it: UH will stick with Taylor Graham as the starting quarterback.

According to head coach Norm Chow, that’s based on evaluations of every practice and the potential Graham showed last night.

But four interceptions are four interceptions, and whatever the reason — miscommunications, errant throws, tipped passes or USC’s athletic defenders — the offense’s mulligan has been spent.

Still, the defense and special teams played well, and, even, the offense had some moments.

A team supposedly makes the biggest improvement between the first and second games. It will be interesting to see what lessons will be learned from the opener.


  1. Ipu Man August 30, 2013 7:30 am


  2. wafan August 30, 2013 7:33 am


  3. oldie August 30, 2013 7:33 am

    Morning Tsaikos!

    Trying to look at the positive: Looks like we came out pretty good on the injury front. How’s Sean Shigematsu? Haven’t heard any reports on the extent of his injury. Hope he can return soon.

  4. el burro sabio August 30, 2013 7:35 am

    First 5 rows

  5. Stephen Tsai August 30, 2013 7:35 am

    Shigematsu has a bone bruise on his right ankle. He hurt it when it was struck by a player’s helmet.

  6. Stephen Tsai August 30, 2013 7:37 am

    Vasquez Haynes “tweaked” his shoulder in the first half. It appeared he would be out for the rest of the game, but he was allowed to re-enter later.

  7. Ipu Man August 30, 2013 7:39 am

    Well, Oregon State has a “scrimmage” tomorrow against Eastern Washington.

  8. Ipu Man August 30, 2013 7:40 am

    Fresno State beat Rutgers in overtime…

  9. Ipu Man August 30, 2013 7:41 am

    UH did not do so badly. But I would have still like to see a qb insertion after the 3rd pick.

  10. Ipu Man August 30, 2013 7:42 am

    Anyhow, best of ruck to Grahm and the rest of the team.

    Go Rainbow Warriors!

  11. oldie August 30, 2013 7:43 am

    Thanks, ST. Hope Sean returns soon. Glad to see that the Warriors are relatively healthy. Big games coming up.

  12. Pomai August 30, 2013 7:44 am

    UH vs Oregon

    27    –    14    Pomai

    56    –    14    d1shima

  13. jmor56 August 30, 2013 7:44 am

    As bad as the offense looked last night I see a lot of upside. Lots of youth and inexperience at the skill positions but the physical tools are there. Kirkwood is going to be a star before he leaves UH. The defense played beyond my expectations and looked solid for the most part considering they were on the field a lot. Plenty of positives to take away from last nights loss

  14. wafan August 30, 2013 7:45 am

    Signs of improvement on the D.

    O needs to write big page numbers in their playbooks.

  15. d1shima August 30, 2013 7:47 am

    Great Morning All!

    The sun kept its promise again and I will keep the faith with the Warriors and show patience with the promise of the HC that things are improving.

  16. wafan August 30, 2013 7:47 am

    Pomai . . .

    30 – 27 ‘Bows, naturally!

    Thanks for keeping track on the pick ’em.

  17. mo808 August 30, 2013 7:50 am

    Good! & Morning Folks!

  18. Pomai August 30, 2013 7:50 am

    One thing I noticed was after the offense would leave the field, Graham would go sit on the bench by himself not talk to anyone or his team, IMHO that needs to change, now Colt might not have been the greatest QB but he was good, and the thing I noticed about him and other good QB’s is that they were into the game on the O or D, you need to stay in the game that is going on.

  19. d1shima August 30, 2013 7:50 am

    …that said, I was a little perplexed while listening to the HC during his postgame interview with BC. On the subject of correcting some of the issues on the offense he said that there were simple fixes that “we can address in 10 minutes” during practice.

    Isn’t halftime about 10 minutes long? 😕

  20. wafan August 30, 2013 7:51 am

    A humongous bon voyage to Slugger!

    Hope your aloha CC is onolicious and filled with laughter and friends. Wish I could be there for your celebration.

  21. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 7:51 am

    13. WRs do look promising… Wins won’t come until we find a good QB though that can complete 65% of his passes.. praying no Pac 12 schools sway Tuileta from his commitment… I see 4 year starter possibly if we can get him. Graham is a junior already… His accuracy isn’t going to get better. Just like Tebows won’t in the NFL. Field awareness is a trait you don’t just develop over night and he doesn’t have it. Chris Gant was wide open for easy TD and Graham is just concentrating on check downs for most of the night. One of the telling things I noticed is on the UH sidelines, not 1 teammate picked up TG after any series on the bench. He was by himself on the sidelines all game. Not a good sign that you won your teammates respect over. Also didn’t show any fire in his body language after his mistakes…

  22. tommui August 30, 2013 7:55 am


    SLUGGER – we hardly knew ye! Will miss seeing you at Maple Garden. Bon Voyage.

    Nice to see Oldie posting!

    UH – 24

    OS = 10

  23. obachan August 30, 2013 7:56 am

    Do you play to win the game by inserting another QB to give it a look-see if he can provide some spark to the offense or take the season-long view and leave the starter in to gain as much experience as possible? I don’t think it would be detrimental to give the starter a break for one or two series.

  24. mo808 August 30, 2013 7:56 am


    UH – OSU

    23 21

  25. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 7:57 am

    OSU 49 Hawaii 10

  26. mo808 August 30, 2013 7:58 am

    Pomai: (oops)

    UH – OSU

    23 – 21

  27. Warrior Dave August 30, 2013 7:58 am


    I agree 100%

  28. d1shima August 30, 2013 8:00 am


    If they playing the Dux then: 59 -28….

    If Beavs, then leave ’em.


  29. RedZone August 30, 2013 8:00 am

    It is not just Taylor and the passing attack. When you only have 23 yards rushing you won’t win games. JJ teams rushed for more. If you can’t run your qb will be a target. If your qb can’t run he will be a tackle dummy. Like last year if our qb keeps taking those kinds of hits he won’t be there at the end of the season.

  30. Warrior Dave August 30, 2013 8:01 am

    #19 Pomai,

    I believe it was just frustration with primarily himself. Lets see if he continues to do that over the next game.

  31. Ipu Man August 30, 2013 8:02 am

    Tim Tebow had two td scores in win…

  32. Buffoman August 30, 2013 8:03 am

    When Colt started he had the same problems of locking on to a receiver, as did Timmy and others. If TG cannot break the habit we have a problem, but he like the others needed game time to work through the process of being able to see the whole field; which is not easy.

    This is the first game, what do you expect. Remember when Timmy had that 4 or 5 interception game, and Colt struggled?

    Let’s let the things progress a bit. We saw areas of improvement, some more dramatic then others.

  33. Ipu Man August 30, 2013 8:03 am

    UH 24 Beavers 0

  34. jm2375 August 30, 2013 8:04 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Decent game last night considering it was the first game. Ditto to #13’s comments.

    Some USC fans were still drinking the Kool-Aid after the game. Were they watching the same game? One fan said USC was awesome.

    I can just imagine the LA sports talk shows this morning. I bet people who weren’t calling for Kiffen’s head before are calling for it now, esp those wen lose plenny kala.

    The arrogant onside kick call came back to bite Kiffen in the okole.

    GO WAHINE!! x2

  35. boolakanaka August 30, 2013 8:04 am

    It was an OK start…with some obvious deficiencies on offense. That said, some of of the comments immediately after the game were rather off-base and adhered to a type of quasi revisionist perspective of actual history.

    Specifically, comments like we need to hire a June Jones type of coach, are not only overly simplistic, but far outside the scope of any probability or practical operation. First of all, it is much like saying, you should marry Cindy Crawford; while it would not doubt be absolutely wonderful, monkeys would build condos in my okole before such an event would occur.

    People should realize that a JJ type of coach, and history reflects and supports this now that we have some vantage of hindsight, was truly a-once-in-a-football-lifetime situation. JJ has a unique and long history with Hawai’i, was no doubt brilliant and a upper margin motivator, his style of play converged with talent and that particular type of play, to place UH on the national map. But that was then, this is now.

    One need only look at far more superior programs, in terms of history and resources, e.g. UCLA and UW, and witness their own exercise and folly into football mediocracy. Placing the right coach at the right time, have gotten many an AD and for that matter university presidents fired–and that is true nationally. So, lets use a tad of prudence and restraint with this putative posturing that all we have to do is hire a JJ coach–that does nothing to address many of the positive things we have before us in the real time.

    So again, while I have not taken a big sip of the Chow kool aid, I will defend him in saying that 13 games in no responsible metric of time to make definitive evaluations of a program and coach. There will be plenty of time, after another entire season, to make much more qualitative, and for that matter quantitative assessment of both Chow and the program. Further, we can do it much more accurately if we exercise patience and support, and apply relevant data and present day context to the situation. Imua Warriors!!

  36. Warrior Dave August 30, 2013 8:06 am

    #20 D1Shima,

    Chow can “addres” it in 10 minutes but didn’t say how long it would take for the players to understand and execute it.

  37. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 8:07 am

    31. Why do you think we are having 0 success rushing?

    1. O line is not very good.. That was a given going into the year.

    2. Graham only checks down for 3 quarters of the game. You can put 8 in the box and not worry about deep ball if QB isn’t going to throw it.

    You need to space out the defense and complete some 10 yard+ passes to have success running the ball.

  38. d1shima August 30, 2013 8:08 am

    Eh boo…what you said.

    Wait, Wat you sed? 😉

  39. Former UH Athlete August 30, 2013 8:09 am

    New QB, same offensive line… same results… No pass protection. Graham was harassed all night and had very little time. He showed rust since it was his first live action since 2009, that was expected, but the protection was really bad.

    THe OLine was atrocious, not bad… atrocious. I re-watched the DVR and there were many missed assignments, whiffed blocks, and RBs not picking up blitzers. With a new DC on USC, Chow probably didn’t have good tape to scout USC’s new defensive scheme. UH certainly didn’t expect USC to blitz that much and I don’t think the scout defense prepared the team for what USC threw at them.

    The big issue that a trained eye could see is that the Oline is not communicating pre-snap to get their assignments straight. Watch back in 2007 and earlier and you can see the linemen pointing and talking. There’s much less communication since Jones left. There were down linemen that were going unblocked, which is unacceptable. 7 sacks and 10 QB hits and getting hurried on 85% of pass attempts is awful.

    UH is going to have to live through rookie mistakes this year as all the skill positions are newbies in D1 football. There were a couple miscommunications on option routes. The freshmen RBs are really raw in pass blocking.

    — On to the good news, and there’s lots to be positive about.

    1. The talent level is much improved. Even though the line didn’t open much holes, the freshmen RBs all looked pretty good. Wily, Lakalaka, and St Juste all showed quickness. Just not much room to run vs USC’s front 7. Just using the eye test, this year’s UH team looks like a bigger more physical team.

    2. Kirkwood and Kemp are legit deep threats. Although Graham rarely had time to throw the deep ball, both Kirkwood and Kemp were getting behind USC DBs.

    3. The defense was outstanding. They played with speed, confidence and swagger. Brendan Daliey set the tone by smashing the USC RB on 1st & Goal. As predicted, Garcia-Williams, and Merrell Jackson looked great. Not a ton of stats, but they made big impact.

    4. The DLine played much better than I expected… Samia and Malepai played well. The big uglies held their own vs a physical USC line. Tavita Woodard had an unreal 1st half.

    5. The DBs are better than advertised. Major props to Maggitt, JH-T, Jackson, and Phillips. THey played great. They basically took Marqise Lee out of the offense until fatigue gave up garbage yards late. They also should be credited for a couple coverage sacks (including the safety) as they took out USC’s 1st option a lot of the time.

    6. Graham does throw a really good deep ball. One caveat is that he needs time to throw, which was rare and a repeat of 2012.

    Most impressive plays that nobody will talk about…

    The 3rd and Goal in the 1st quarter where USC ran a toss left. That play should have been a touchdown as they had 2 lead blockers and UH didn’t have anybody on the edge. I forgot who made the tackle, but there were 2 UH players that flew to perimeter, taking out the blockers and forcing the RB to cut back into the pursuit, where UH made the stop.

    The other play that really caught my attention was when USC ran one of their traditional playaction naked bootlegs to the TE flat. This play against most UH defenses over the years would have been a 15-20+ yard catch & run. Clay and one of the DE chased down the TE and laid him out after about 5 yard gain. I was extremely impressed on how quick the defense diagnosed the play and had the speed to chase it down.

    Most annoying thing about UH… the uniform numbers. The number font is chunky and really hard to read on the tv screen. I can’t identify who’s doing what.

  40. oldie August 30, 2013 8:16 am

    Hi Tom!

    Disappointed with the outcome last night like everyone else. I’m sure Coach Chow is looking at this as a multi year project, but the team needs to come away with enough wins this year to keep the fans engaged. Hopefully, we’ll see improvements from game to game. Tough schedule, but still need to see the Ws.

  41. d1shima August 30, 2013 8:16 am


    Whether it’s the QB identifying pre-snap stuff or getting the receivers on the same page or the RB’s making sure they know what a blitz looks like when done by a NFL-caliber player, I’m hoping that at least one of the coaches put it out there during the game.

  42. Pukalani boy August 30, 2013 8:16 am

    Hawaii is definitely improved on defense.

  43. boolakanaka August 30, 2013 8:18 am

    d1shima…yeah, what I said–what did I say???

  44. d1shima August 30, 2013 8:20 am


    Isn’t there a difference in R&S philosophy of pass pro vs West Coast as far as identifying pre-snap reads?

    IIRC most West Coast QB’s are responsible for directing pass pro at the LOS.

  45. d1shima August 30, 2013 8:24 am

    btw, I thought overall the interior guys did a good job against Uko and Williams and was glad that the outside guys didn’t “highlight” another All-Conference rush end! 😛

    …but FUHA is right, picking up blitzes does need to improve

  46. Derek August 30, 2013 8:26 am

    Oregon St. 45, Hawaii 7. Jeezy, spot on. You have to beg the question, what would the outcome be if our QB play was say completion percentage was 55% with 1 interception and throw for 250 yards. These are not great, but reasonable statistics and I think the game would have been close. Graham’s decision making was terrible. At least 4 or 5 sacks could have been prevented. A mulligan? Sorry, in this game you either get it done or you don’t. His play was the single reason why we lost this game.

    Bowling Green brought their back up QB into the game early against Tulsa. The starter never smelled the game after that. The moral of the story? Try something different, give people an opportunity in actual games to see what they can do. There are practice players and then there are gamers. If I was the coach, nothing is etched in stone. By any measure 4 INTs is unacceptable and it could have been 6 INTs, 2 were dropped. Sorry, the bottom line is the bottom line. USCs QBs weren’t great, but they threw only 1 interceptions. What is Chow going to do now!

  47. Former UH Athlete August 30, 2013 8:26 am

    Also, the pick 6 wasn’t Grahams fault. Graham delivered a good ball that hit Kemp in the hands, but Kemp got alligator arms going over the middle. Freshmen mistake. Just bad luck the ball bobbled up and not down safely to the ground.

    Harding had a rough game. He made a nice catch early and did get himself open throughout. He made a ton of errors though. Dropped a good ball that would have been 1st down. Dropped a pass that hit his hands on a deep ball. The ball was slightly overthrown but he got two hands on it, therefore, it’s on him to haul it in. He made multiple errors on judgement on punt returns. He let one go that he could have gotten to at the 30 yard line, but it rolled all the way inside the 2. On the next return, he fielded a line drive at the 10 the looked like it would have gone into the end zone.

  48. d1shima August 30, 2013 8:29 am

    btw, Da Oddah Blogging Guy posted a picture of Bill Plaschke from Chicago (and ATH fame) covering the game. Anyone read about his impressions?

  49. mterui August 30, 2013 8:30 am

    Nice post #39 FUHA! Love the insight. Even my untrained eye could see how much the O-line was struggling. How many times did a USC defender get to or pressure the QB without even being touched by a blocker!? That seems like less of a talent problem and more of a scheme issue. Or is the QB supposed to move his guys around before snap to cover the unblocked rusher?

    I really want to see what Graham can do if he has a little more time and doesn’t have to constantly look over his shoulders. There were glimpses of promise. Seems like he has nice touch and can air it out, too. Also, the WRs(and refs) didn’t help much. When he did get it to them, they couldn’t catch(or see PI)!

  50. jm2375 August 30, 2013 8:31 am

    jeezy – #22 – Tuileta will also play volleyball for UH. I doubt a Pac-12 school would want him to do that, if said school has a men’s vb team (Pac-12 – UCLA, Stanford, USC)

  51. Warrior Dave August 30, 2013 8:32 am

    Here’s my 2 cents. The defense played beyond my expeditions. Was interesting that the Reporter that covers USC football said on the BC show that the success of the front 7 was not a surprise as the USC scout team would regularly dominate the Starting Oline. I afraid of injuries if they are always on the field. Offense must improve quickly.

    I knew Chow would not have taken out Graham even if he threw 10 picks. Remember last year, Schroeder had to be on life support before Chow brought in another QB. but in this instance I agreed with Chow. Taylor needed game reps and he got it. To Taylor’s credit, he kept getting up and kept firing away. If you’re building for the future, meaning later this season and next, you give Taylor all of the reps. Schroeder is a Warrior but I don’t believe his arm strength improved much since last year. Interesting comments by a couple of you noting that Taylor was by himself on the bench. I don’t think it was because he lost the team. Going into the season people including our blog host said Taylor was the team leader. I would be shocked if he lost the team after one game.

    I thought Guzman did OK punting. Bringing Harding in as a situational punter was fine but I wouldn’t like a steady diet of it. His style shortens the field once the Returner learns to play up. Although we only kicked off a few times, reaching he end zone is still a concern. Thank you Coach for finally getting Harding to play up and field hose rolling punts.

    The Referees were simply terrible last night. Lots of missed holding calls against USC. I saw Taylor taking a couple of helmet to chin shots. It goes on and on.

    All in all it was a promising 1st game against a name brand opponent. It will only help recruiting. Would like to hear what the Announcers had to say. Better days are ahead for UH football.

  52. Former UH Athlete August 30, 2013 8:32 am

    #44 Yes they are different, but the Oline still needs to figure out who’s blocking who pre-snap. Also the QB and WR need to read the blitz and check down to a hot route. There were times Graham threw the hot route but the WR didn’t break it off.

    There were two occasions where Graham read one-on-one with Marcus Kemp with no safety on top… and threw the deep ball, which is the correct read on an option route, but Kemp didn’t read it and ran the dig route on the option.

    Having inexperienced QB & WRs, I wouldn’t expect them to have it nailed down yet. Especially with only 20 hour/wk practice limits. This kind of rapport takes 1-2 years to develop. Kemp and Kirkwood have only been here for a month or two.

  53. mterui August 30, 2013 8:32 am

    Sucks to think about “what-ifs”. If they had gotten 3 FGs instead of ints they would have been right in it and D could have pinned their ears back…

  54. boolakanaka August 30, 2013 8:34 am

    39 formerUH—and a much over due acknowledgement and praise of your consistent and solid evaluations of players and coaches….kudos!!! From one ex to the next…

  55. mterui August 30, 2013 8:35 am

    FUHA or boo…so what are your critiques of strictly Graham? What kind of potential do you see?

  56. Old Diver August 30, 2013 8:37 am

    I was surprised at Graham’s inaccuracy. His balls were off target even when he had time. Throwing into traffic is correctable with playing time but it will probably won’t be until next season till Graham gets it.

  57. Former UH Athlete August 30, 2013 8:37 am

    I don’t have any complaints about the refs. They were a non-factor as the it was a pretty clean game for both teams. The two PI/non PI calls late were pretty bad though. NeQuan just needs to be more sneaky about a quick grab.

  58. WarriorMojo August 30, 2013 8:38 am

    Much of sc’s pressure came off stunts and blitzes. For an O-line to pick that stuff up requires cohesion. Cohesion ONLY comes through playing together as a unit. None of these guys played a game together in those positions before last night.

  59. Mike August 30, 2013 8:39 am

    Aloha! Good game. Keep up the good work Warriors. Have a good weekend everyone!

    BTW – @SteveM, my daughter saw you lurking around at 1:30 am on and I checked out your

    profile and it is You.

  60. UH_Fan_In_SD August 30, 2013 8:40 am

    I’m not so sure putting in another QB would’ve made a difference, the running game was non-existent. Even if we end up benching Graham i’d rather him get some reps under his belt, because his ceiling “could” be high. After two more bad starts then maybe re-evaluate. I’d rather see Woosely than Schroeder or Higgins..just to see what the future might be..and i believe he has a decent ceiling.

    I understand there is a bias towards local players.. I prefer them too, but I notice those calling for some of the other qb’s or looking forward to certain HS qb’s never mention how the local RB’s performed just as poorly as Graham…and hey they played a highschool game in the past 3 years.

  61. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 8:40 am

    51… If Tuileta is a starting QB at Hawaii, he wont be playing Volleyball.. Starting QB takes too much time and dedication.

  62. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 8:41 am

    FUHA, Stop making excuses for bad QB play already….. You can’t state 1 week how much better our offense is going to be then make excuses about his inexperience the next.

  63. WarriorMojo August 30, 2013 8:43 am

    So my point is, anyone who says have patience with the QB/Receiver timing issues, but blasts the oline for failing similar issues doesn’t know squat.

  64. alhawaii August 30, 2013 8:44 am

    we need an offensive coordinator, not one stuck in the 80’s.

  65. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 8:46 am

    Derek, while our D played great and I commend them a lot, its going to be a whole different ball game when we play teams that spread it out…. Our defense faces a similar style offense that USC runs every day in practice. JGW is so good that he can cover Slots and TEs.

    The defense will look a lot different when they face dual threat QBs and teams that spread out the ball. 4-3 package wont work as efficiently against 4 wide offenses. When we face Fresno, Nevada, San Jose St, they wont hold on to the ball as long as USC did. There will be a lot more pre snap reads by the QBs and they will get the ball out quick.

    Marquise Lee also dropped a few passes that could have lead to more points. Kessler did a lot of things Graham did and didn’t locate open WRs when he had guys wide open… We won’t be facing too many inexperienced QBs in the next month.

  66. WarriorMojo August 30, 2013 8:47 am

    On the other hand I do agree with #47, particularly about Harding. I didn’t notice any particular improvement in any aspect of his game.

  67. Old Diver August 30, 2013 8:48 am

    jeezy was correct to be concerned about a 50% completion rate in practice. The problems is because Graham never played in on college before (JC or any Div) we don’t know if he is an accurate passer. Yes Graham was pressured at times but he was not consistently accurate when he had time. If the running game doesn’t shape up I don’t expect UH to put up many points against the better teams on the schedule.

  68. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 8:48 am

    64. There should be no patience with QB/WR issues… Graham has been working with Gant, Moleni, Harding for nearly 2 years now. He’s not a freshman that has 3 more years to be ready.. When he missed Gant wide open down field for easy TD, there’s just no excuses. Qbs should have a feel for that by now.

  69. WarriorMojo August 30, 2013 8:49 am

    Jeezy, when we play more “spread” teams, I think Gener gets a lot more PT. I was as impressed by his play as anyone on the team.

  70. Old Diver August 30, 2013 8:51 am


    Agree. As we found out last year when our D played decent against USC. It didn’t equate to defending any type of spread attack. Hope the coaches learned from last year.

  71. boolakanaka August 30, 2013 8:52 am

    56—at least from my perspective, a couple of items were glaring. One, pocket awareness was marginal, that is to say, identification of his passing lanes, coupled with the timing of routes–thus alot of miss timed passes or receiver entirely not in spot of intended pass (might also be attributed to receivers running wrong routes)

    Two, ball and backside integrity: often out of his pivot, of either a handoff or/a pump fake, his snapshot of the defensive alignment or coverage, was either either inaccurate or he did not take into account a hidden coverage or an alignment change. Any coach, pop warner to NFL, you just cannot turn the ballover like that…it is the single biggest statistic that will predict a win or loss.

    Footwork while fluid broke down as the game progressed, not surprising as he was taking a beating…..and there is no questioning he is a tough guy….you will even see ole Tom Brady hearing footsteps. Finally, release needs to be quicker, and he needs to ameliorate his tendency to throw into traffic–he has a strong arm, he is not kaepernick.

  72. Jun Tao August 30, 2013 8:54 am

    can I say that Lakalaka did a great job when he finally got his chance? He was the only RB to pick up the blitzing LB’s that the others couldn’t to give TG time to pass. I also like his running and pass catching abilities. It kinda reminds me of Nasti Nate……

    Raises hand to vote him in to start next week!

  73. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 8:57 am

    68. If 3 years is a problem, why are coaches comparing him to Carson Palmer then? The only time I wanna use inexperience as an excuse is if we are starting a freshman… Graham doesn’t have much time to learn. His accuracy woes already concern me a lot. If he can’t see open WRs, I don’t know if a few games are really going to change that. I would like to think he practices enough to be able to see that…. Marcus Mariota had 0 college game experience and it didn’t take him very long to get going on all cylinders. I just don’t like giving QBs a pass because of inexperience. He’s been a QB his whole life. D1 or not, finding open WRs and throwing accurate balls should be the basics of playing QB.

  74. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 8:58 am

    74. I agree.. I wanted to see more St Juste but Lakalaka was most effective blocker by far

  75. Will-I-Am August 30, 2013 9:07 am

    I am really excited! Our D I solid! our special teams is Solid! The problems with the offense appear to be fixable.

    My only concern is the O-Line. Maybe Deemo should coach them for a week. haaaa

  76. G-money August 30, 2013 9:08 am

    Call me crazy but I would love to see Ewaliko run this offense

  77. PurpleMaple August 30, 2013 9:08 am

    The starting QB showed his rust and inexperience. You have a QB with starting experience sitting on the bench. Why wasn’t he put in the game? You wanna win, right? And, I thought the QB sitting on the bench had a better fall practice anyway, and should have been the starter or at least played. This was a repeat performance of last year’s offensive nightmare. And I am talking of the OC.

  78. gobows August 30, 2013 9:09 am

    grahams footwork is just as bad as shroeders. the team needs a mobile qb.

    why did they take a sack on the first play of the game? that is freakishly stupid.

  79. PurpleMaple August 30, 2013 9:14 am

    By the way, thank you WarriorMojo (#64) for your comment. Spot on !

  80. RedZone August 30, 2013 9:15 am

    jeezy I saw no speed to attack the perimeter. SC was able to attack ours using their speed at runningback. Our best running play was with a wide receiver. Maybe things will change once St Juste gets more PT. I knew running the ball against SC would be difficult because of their front seven but I expected more. We were over-matched up front.

  81. d1shima August 30, 2013 9:16 am


    I was looking in the wrong city.

    Plaschke writes is LA.,0,1216312.column#axzz2dTsdvzBi

  82. Derek August 30, 2013 9:18 am

    If you’re not an accurate passer, that spells doom from the get go. Accuracy is the #1 prerequisite for being a good QB. Chow should know this.

  83. RedZone August 30, 2013 9:20 am

    Dick Tomey on radio now.

  84. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 9:21 am

    82. I agree with you. Basically, Chow is seeing why the Run and Shoot worked for Hawaii because we don’t have the O line that is going to open up holes like that for our RBs. They might as well work 80% pass protection and get that aspect of blocking down.

    I am not saying to go to the run and shoot. But Hawaii needs to be creative to set up quick 3 step drops passes for guys. There was a play I liked where St Juste ran a route to the flats and WR rant a quick slant over the middle. It made the LBs have to cover 2 separate areas and the slant was wide open. TG missed the pass though.

    Hawaii will need to open up the pass to set up the run in my opinion. Space out the defenders so they can’t stack 8 in the box. Our WRs like Keith, Chris, and Marcus were getting open deep. Graham just chose to check down every time instead of putting some air under it and letting them make a play. The very first pass of the game, Gant had his man beat. Should have kept attacking.

  85. d1shima August 30, 2013 9:22 am

    Note that if you think (some) Hawaii fans are “disappointed”, you should check out the comments section of the LATimes column. 😯

  86. kifi August 30, 2013 9:22 am

    Ameliorate – to make better; to grow; to improve.

    Wow Boolakanaka, thanks for helping me ameliorate my vocabulary.

  87. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 9:23 am

    84.. yup.. and field awareness, pocket presence… Don’t know how Tom Brady makes it look so easy. That is the most non mobile QB in the league and he can just feel pressure. Takes 1 or 2 steps to the right or left and ball is out.

  88. Otto August 30, 2013 9:25 am

    Check out Bleacher They have video of Graham’s decleater block on SC DB that was chasing the UH WR when he was scrambling on the end around. They also have reaction from the UH Scout team members that were in the stands. I assume that those were scout teamers that couldn’t be on the field. There were at least a dozen or so all wearing the same UH gear with backpacks…

  89. PurpleMaple August 30, 2013 9:26 am

    After watching yesterday’s game, I feel comfortable making a prediction for the OSU game. OSU 45, Hawaii 13

  90. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 9:31 am

    92. Wish I could say 13 points but OSU D is better than USC and its on the road. Could see even more turnovers and penalties with the loud crowd. Also less men traveling.

  91. kifi August 30, 2013 9:33 am

    Good game Hawaii. Very proud of the boys.

  92. HiFlyer August 30, 2013 9:34 am

    Pomai 45 – 6 OSU

  93. Chee Hoo August 30, 2013 9:35 am

    Other then UH’s offense, I thought UH played SC on even keel. Quite obvious at this stage Graham doesn’t see the whole field in the pocket. Footwork is a total mess and he’s too slow. Doesn’t have a quick release. Pick that was returned wasn’t his fault, but the others were. Trying a little to hard to force his throws into coverage as he has a cannon of an arm. His soft passes are an agony to watch. Couple of times in the second half, Chow, rolled him out of the pocket and he had decent success.

    At some point Chow should have sat Graham and inserted Woolsey. At least just to change the flow of the game and let Graham see things from a different perspective. A series or two from the sidelines to check out the coverages. Schroeder and Higgins would be a last resort. Don’t want a repeat of last year.

    Defense was outstanding yesterday. Hit by Daley set the tone of the game. Gotta say Graham is pretty physical and can take the hits, he also can lay a good hit to like when he flattened that SC defender.

  94. d1shima August 30, 2013 9:36 am

    The R&S Sentamentalists can refill their memory banks at 2pm today on ESPN.

    Good Luck to The Former Coach…

    CFB is back, baby!

  95. koakane ® August 30, 2013 9:43 am

    good morning 808, tsaiko’s, tsaikette’s, rainbow warriors and wahines

    much calmer after my morning mad walk and swim

    good to see the student section filled up for two and half quarters, as usual tgate was outstanding (thanks to those who made an appearance)

    yesterdays game comments defense A, offense D nuff said

  96. ????????? Harajuku August 30, 2013 9:44 am


  97. d1shima August 30, 2013 9:44 am

    On to more important stuffs…

    Who ya got?

    Ring ring in Kalihi?

    Proclaim the blessings of our fondest hopes on Kalaepohaku?

  98. Jonj August 30, 2013 9:46 am

    Talk to 3 redshirts last night one local boy and 2 mainland kids and asked them what their opinion was on the QB situation and They quickly said that was what they were just talking about and wished Higgins was in the game. Enough said… 3 redshirt frosh with no ties to last season also think Higgins is the best qb!

  99. d1shima August 30, 2013 9:46 am

    ….not biased or anyting (yea right) but WTH is “rayrayrayrayrayrah”?

  100. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 9:49 am

    98. Interesting but I believe u… When none of your teammates pick u up after a INT, it kind of makes you feel that the teammates don’t really respect him as a teammate and was kind of handed everything when he arrived to Hawaii. Just my observation but everyone else sitting around me noticed it too that none of TG teammates went to talk to him.

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  104. Pomai August 30, 2013 9:54 am

    98 Jonj – so you would take the opinion of three freshmen to that of a coach?????

    I’m not 100% behind Chow, but I so give him credit to be able to see a better QB than 3 freshmen.

    I also thought he should have put Sean in for the fourth just to maybe give us a spark also to see how he handles the pressure.

  105. Pomai August 30, 2013 9:55 am

    UH vs Oregon

    06    –    45    HiFlyer

    10    –    49    jeezy33

    13    –    45    PurpleMaple

    23    –    21    mo808

    24    –    10    tommui

    24    –    00    Ipu Man

    27    –    14    Pomai

    56    –    14    d1shima

  106. d1shima August 30, 2013 9:56 am

    Oregon STATE

  107. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 9:59 am

    104. I think the point there is Graham is supposedly the leader and when guys on your team don’t really have your back or believe in you like they should, then maybe he isn’t as good a player or leader like he is being talked about on Radio or TV…

    When Colt was at QB, there was no question who the team looked up to.

  108. markazulu August 30, 2013 10:01 am

    Well from what I heard Higgins was MOVING our Offense in scrimmages so I don’t think it would’ve been bad to give him a look. BUT I do understand that Chow probably sees it that Graham has a high ceiling and the mistakes he made last night are correctable.

  109. d1shima August 30, 2013 10:03 am

    Getting hungree….

  110. UH_Fan_In_SD August 30, 2013 10:06 am

    Pomai – Thanks for being logical

  111. LizKauai August 30, 2013 10:07 am


    17 – 35 LizKauai

  112. G-money August 30, 2013 10:08 am

    I want to know who’s on the other side of Higgins’ headset.

  113. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal August 30, 2013 10:10 am

    holy crap, jeezy. yes, taylor graham is a junior but he hasn’t played a down of college football in his life. playing in a game is much different than taking mental reps last year while he was redshirting, and then doing it in training camp this year. he’s trying to adjust the the speed of game time after not taking a meaningful snap since high school. stop comparing him to tom brady or marcus mariota. brady was on a very good michigan team in college and also is a hall of fame qb. Taylor graham/jeremy higgins/whoever else is on the UH roster in all likelihood will not even come close to making an nfl roster.

    marcus mariota is very good but is also playing on a very good oregon team stacked with talent, with excellent and established coaches, and an offense that he was almost born to run.

    graham made some insanely bad throws, but it’s basically his first game. he needs to develop. the bigger issue is the offensive line and receivers. when you have basically a freshman qb out there who is struggling, you need to be able to provide him some pass protection to get him in a rhythm, and also, run the football to take pressure off of him. UH could do neither.

  114. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal August 30, 2013 10:11 am

    42-10, oregon state. and honestly, it doesnt’ matter who was at quarterback. the line is so bad and the so called freak show receivers not living up to their nickname, that even quarterback god jeremy higgins probaby would not have performed well.

  115. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 10:15 am

    113. So how much time do u plan to give a junior? And experience has nothing to do with being accurate.

  116. LizKauai August 30, 2013 10:17 am

    What a great football day!

    Tsai-kogate was absolutely outstanding in every way. So wonderful to be with the ohana again… the fabulous food, friends and football time together is a blessing to be appreciated – especially as we advance in age and see the next generation of Tsai-kos coming up. Great to see Masa Boy on the home turf… and our newest Track Wahine Winnie Markowitz and ohana.

    The T-Gate also reflected the open-hearted welcome to football fans of the opposing team – just as our longstanding relationship with Georgia Bulldog fan merv was established out of mutual respect and aloha… there were several notable Trojan fans among us yesterday… now Trojan Tsai-kos :mrgreen:

    Godspeed and continued Blessings to Slugger who departs today for America… her devotion to UH Athletics is truly an inspiration and her kindness and generosity made it possible for me to be a fan in the stands all these years. Mahalo, Slugger, Mahalo, Ke Akua for this blog and all the goodness it has brought out in people!

  117. Derek August 30, 2013 10:18 am

    As Dick Tomey said, “there is no moral victory”. He wasn’t surprised at Graham’s poor performance. He hasn’t played in 3-4 years and you cannot simulate game situations in practice. You can try, but it’s not the same. Graham looked like he had stage fright after he got hit a couple of times. Like a deer when the light shines in his eyes. Interesting that Tomey says Woolsey has some good traits to be a good QB. Maybe Chowis beholden to G

    Graham for coming to Hawaii. That’s ok, but he’s got to perform. Oregon State is a better team than USC in my humble opinion. After last night, if I was Chow I would be very upset. Not at the defense or the special teams, but the offense. I would have like to see more man in motion to try to confuse the defense and even use the motion man as a safety valve. You can use double passes or option to run after a pass.

  118. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 10:18 am

    If you were to tell me that a QB was transferring with 2 years left to play and its gonna take 1 year before he learns how to play D1, I would simply pass on him because I think you are better off recruiting a freshman QB that you can develop. When Timmy Chang struggled, it was a whole different story. He was learning on the fly. But he still wasn’t that in accurate and still read defenses better than TG does now. And I don’t even think Chang was that accurate to begin with.

  119. Jonj August 30, 2013 10:20 am

    104 I will believe kids on the team. They practice with them and get the same view chow has! And so far I don’t really respect a thing chow has to say! The way he mis handled the Qb situation last year and his horrible play calling! Why run a draw 50% of the time on 3rd?? If I can call the play what u think their d coordinator is doing?!?! He’s up there laughing his ass off!

  120. ??? ?? August 30, 2013 10:23 am


  121. RedZone August 30, 2013 10:23 am

    I think Tomey really likes Woosley.

  122. Bigislandkurt August 30, 2013 10:26 am

    In today’s game of big boy football, you gotta have a mobile QB. Not just a running QB, but a smart one who can sling it too.

    Statues like Graham, Schroeder and Higgins will struggle. And so long as we have this type of QB, our oline will always be an enigmatic force of the offense. I’m still gonna support these boys, but man it can get frustrating.

    My how we could use QB’s with good, quick feet who can also get it to receivers. But we not there yet so just gotta be supportive with what we have now. Huu boy. The QB/Receiver play must improve.

    (quietly intrigued by the future Ikaika Woolsey era myself).


  123. G-money August 30, 2013 10:29 am

    The biggest problem is the overall lack of leadership, fire & passion. While I THINK I saw a guy trying his best, he also looked like he was over thinking things.. His accuracy is suspect– he consistently threw the ball too hard/too soft, or with not enough loft. Strictly as a passer, reminds me of kaepernick.. Obviously two different types of athletes, however.

    Adjustments are definitely required.

    While I keep hearing noise about how Higgins moves the chains in practice, from what I saw, his in-game athleticism is average at best and his arm strength looks like he’s still in HS. So unless he can complete 5-10 yard passes at a high %age, he’ll unfortunately suffer a similar fate if our OL can’t provide better protection.

    If we are to give someone else a chance, how about Woolsey? Saw more fire out of him on the 2-pt conversion than I did from our other qb’s.

  124. LizKauai August 30, 2013 10:31 am

    Graham has an arm. Does he have the WILL to overcome his shortcomings (like everyone else) and go the extra mile to get instinctively in sync with his runners and catchers? Can he overcome fear? Time will tell.

    The Offense is still a work in progress… and the coaching and player leadership still needs to be defined and matured. I liked the hurry-up but the execution was lumpy. Will a new OC be hired?

    In the meantime I loved the D and the ST’s creative efforts on the field last night. Super wonderful to watch as a fan in the stands.

    But at times, it was hard not to fall back on a little south park-esque feelings. When we got offensively close to the endzone, I was like… “Kick the field goal on first down already!” and then the INT and I would feel like a genius… phhht…

    Hahaha…. football. Let the kids have fun and love what they are doing… they will excel.

  125. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 10:31 am

    123… Saw that too

  126. Old School Dave August 30, 2013 10:32 am

    UH is not going to see much better athletes than USC, in my opinion, although Oregon State will be talented. Basically, you had high school All-State players (UH) going against many Parade All-Americans (USC). I liked the effort I saw, especially on defense. Defenses are usually ahead at this time of the season. Offense will take more time as they are many young or new players at the skilled positions. Not throwing in the towel after one game. Coaches and players now have live film to work with and make adjustments.

  127. Old School Dave August 30, 2013 10:37 am

    People need to support the players and not create controversy by saying that this or that player should be playing ahead of someone. Do you attend all of the practices, meetings, and film sessions? You don’t criticize college athletes, IMHO. So are we eventually going to see the fans at Aloha Stadium boo TG like they did Timmy Chang?

  128. LizKauai August 30, 2013 10:38 am

    One more thing.

    BIG UPS to the strength and conditioning folks. BIG UPS!

    The kids looked WONDERFUL and injuries were minimal, all considered.

    The D spent so much time on the field… the investment in conditioning really paid off.


  129. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal August 30, 2013 10:42 am

    jeezy, his lack of accuracy can also be attributed to the lack of time to throw the ball and all the pressure that USC was getting on him because of the performance of UH’s o-line. I’m not saying that taylor graham played well, because he didn’t. but there are other factors aside from bad qb play. when he had time in the pocket, he actually threw very accurate deep balls.

    If he doesn’t improve or if he regresses in the next two games, then maybe it’s time to look at other options. benching a qb forever after his first game where, to be honest, the whole offense sucked BADLY, is kind of overkill. i mean, seriously. it’s not like he was playing against charleston southern, had ample time in the pocket, and was pulling a tim tebow and misfiring like crazy.

  130. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 10:43 am

    128… I noticed that too.. Beemer has the boys looking in shape and a lot stronger… The bigger guys are playing faster on D.

  131. gobows August 30, 2013 10:44 am

    graham is a pea shooter compared to colin kaepernick.

  132. 808jimbo August 30, 2013 10:45 am

    ok, i am just a lurker, but jeezy33, you are so full of yourself that you think everyone else knows nothing and your word is THE definitive interpretation of truth. JEEZE! where do you get off telling fuha or anyone else to stop giving their take on anything? you are so enamoured with yourself that no one else can be right? just irritating reading it constantly. and no need correct me, as i am back to lurking.

  133. BigWave96744 August 30, 2013 10:46 am


    Rainbow Warriors 22 – Beavers 21

  134. markazulu August 30, 2013 10:47 am

    Im personally excited about Woosley but not willing to give up on graham after just 1 game

  135. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 10:48 am

    129. That’s still not acceptable. We all knew the O line wasn’t going to protect well. No secret. Quarterbacks need to be accurate regardless. His 4th pick of the game, he had time, he also had a wide open Moleni. Tried forcing it downfield into double coverage…

    You can’t be throwing 90 MPH bullets 3 yards over the middle. That’s not a experience issue to me. That’s common sense. Zone read pass play, he should know if the safety comes up, Gant would be wide open. When you call plays, you need to know your options as the LEADER or QB… He’s not going to get good protection this year. So accuracy excuse will not fly.

    David Graves had the same O line but even more inexperienced at the time. He found a way to complete over 60% of his throws. No excuses on his inexperience as a QB or crappy O line. these guys were all blocking for him then as freshman.

  136. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 10:50 am

    132. give any take you want.. I’m going off what is said on a weekly basis. If you’re going to say one thing, dont contradict yourself and make excuses for it later when it doesn’t happen like u say…

    FUHA was hyping Graham all off season. So when he plays poorly, now he’s gonna make up excuses to why he played bad?

  137. G-money August 30, 2013 10:51 am

    Also.. I can’t believe that more hasn’t been made of the chicken poop, busch league TD that Kiffen scored with 0:42 left on the clock. Not only is he without class, he deserves to get his ass whooped for pulling such a sickening cowardly act. We’ve seen it a hundred times.. Team is up by more than 2 TDs, plus 2-pt conversions (in this case, 18 pts) and drives the ball down the field in the waning moments. Reaches the red zone, and takes a knee on the premise that the opposing team won’t try to call TOs to try to get the ball back, because for all concerned, the game is as good as over. Nope, not Kiffen. Lines up to punch it in. I LOVE that our coaches called TO to then try to stop the shallow bastard. I’m not even religious but frankly only GOD can tell me what benefit there was to being up 25 with 0:42 to go versus winning by 18. Did he think that would help their ranking? Ohh pah-leeeeze.

    What’s altogether better and why I’ve rethought my opinion of our coaches is that not only did we come out and NOT just run the ball after receiving the kickoff, we called a no-doubt go for 2 play after the long TD, AND attempted an on-side kick. So as to say, don’t *bleep* around little Kiffen boy.. Man I wish we could play them again.. After that no-class peewee stunt that Kiffen pulled, I’m sure our coaches do too.

  138. gobows August 30, 2013 10:51 am


  139. Old School Dave August 30, 2013 10:54 am

    I really like Brenden Daley and his effort yesterday. Been a while since UH had a linebacker with his size and mobility. Great to read about his story and how he matured as a person and is now regarded as one of the leaders on this team.

  140. WarriorMojo August 30, 2013 10:54 am

    On another note: what was your take on the new Warrior mascot dude? I kind of liked him myself, but then again I’m ABV. But what happened to him after half time?

  141. Stephen Tsai August 30, 2013 10:57 am

    Layoff or not, debut or not, Graham had a bad game. He admitted to that.

    While the QB who doesn’t play is always more popular, Ikaika Woolsey has a ways to go before he is ready to be the No. 1 guy. He admitted to that.

  142. Stephen Tsai August 30, 2013 10:58 am


    The mascot was a one-time only thing.

    It conjured memories of Bewitched, when they changed Darren Stevens without any explanation

  143. Independent Thinker August 30, 2013 11:02 am

    These are young men; they are not professionals, paid to play this game for our entertainment, and this is college football. Therefore, I find no fault with the players.

    If there is blame to be directed somewhere or at someone, it should be directed at the paid professionals, and we all know who these people are.

    The decision about who to start and for what reason naturally leads to certain results. In yesterday’s game, the decision reached about who to play and not to play resulted in the loss we are all trying to get over.

    These decisions were not decisions made by student-athletes but were instead made by the paid professionals, including one “offensive genuis” who serves as HC, OC, and receivers coach.

    It is said a fool is a person who does the same thing over and over and expects a different result each time.

    I am not calling anyone a fool. However, it seems to me chow is doing the same thing this season he did last season and he is expecting a different result.

    For the sake of the UH and the student athletes, I hope I am wrong.

    Go UH!

  144. papajoe2 August 30, 2013 11:04 am

    There were a few passes that no one was there. Was it running the wrong route? Only the players and coaches know. Some balls dropped that should have been caught. Not much effort on some receivers to GO after the ball instead of just going through the motions. Also noticed that they ran more play action passes in the 2nd half giving TG a little more time to throw or confusing the USC defense. TG did struggle most of the time while throwing the ball on the run. I see more improvement in the next game. Yup, the o-line can improve too. TG also has to learn to throw the ball away. With his arm strength, he could throw it in the stands if a receiver should be in the general area, without even thinking, if under pressure.

  145. Old School Dave August 30, 2013 11:04 am

    Yeah! Clint Longley was a way better QB than Roger Staubach. Still bitter about that injustice to this day!

  146. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 11:04 am

    139. I was surprised too… He was the biggest guy on the field during the coin toss. Looked bigger than Woodard. But Daley still played fast. Was impressed with his development from last season.. Again, a lot of credit to Beemer… Lot of the guys looks stronger while shedding bad weight.

  147. Inyoface August 30, 2013 11:06 am

    I think we played pretty well considering the inexperience on offense against a legit team like SC. They’ll get better game by game.

  148. Old School Dave August 30, 2013 11:06 am

    Who was the former UH coach who would often respond to critics and second guessers with the phrase: “That’s not what we do here.”

  149. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 30, 2013 11:08 am


    Chow is going to have to hire someone in the off-season. I don’t think its really fair to leave the QB/WR coaching and eyes-in-the-sky duties to a couple of grad students. They are being asked to do a lot. The timing of the OC’s departure was very unfortunate.

  150. Redzone August 30, 2013 11:10 am

    Not saying Woolsey should start. Just saying that I think Tomey likes him.

  151. Redzone August 30, 2013 11:11 am


  152. Former UH Athlete August 30, 2013 11:12 am

    Guys, QBs lose accuracy when under duress. That’s a fact on all levels of football. Especially so when the rush comes so quickly and you can’t go through progressions. People seem to forget what Colt Brennan looked like vs Georgia. Brennan is one of the most accurate throwers I’ve ever seen, (his WR corp were always on the same page on pre & post snap reads), but under heavy and constant pressure, he looked like a fish out of water.

    Like Schroeder last year, when Graham actually didn’t get hit, he was accurate. That was a rare event. Getting hurried on virtually every pass is going to give QBs problems, 1 star to 5 star talents. USC’s Kessler was horrible under pressure. His one quality throw for TD was when UH didn’t get any pressure and he threw a perfect ball to Agholor with good coverage.

    One thing to keep in mind…. throwing from a planned rollout is completely different from throwing while scrambling. When its a designed rollout, the routes and timing is all planned. When you’re forced to scramble, the timing is all messed up and routes aren’t designed for the ball to originate from outside the pocket. I know that it’s hard to explain in a paragraph.

  153. al August 30, 2013 11:13 am

    …but, they did play hard till the end.

  154. al August 30, 2013 11:14 am

    …and they did rattle usc’s cage.

  155. PurpleMaple August 30, 2013 11:14 am

    Life is good. We have Wahine volleyball tonight. And too bad the mascot is a one-time thing. I liked it. And thank you Coach Chow for letting the team run on to the field. Juices were pumping.

  156. al August 30, 2013 11:15 am

    …showed them that a team so stacked with 4-5 star athletes and 3 star walkons can still be taken.

  157. Former UH Athlete August 30, 2013 11:15 am

    #150, I too was a little surprised Woosley isn’t higher on the depth chart. I heard he was doing well on the scout team last year, but he wasnt’ able to beat out Schroeder or Higgins. Schroeder is a solid #2 because he’s smart with the ball. He doesnt’ provide big play ability so that’s why he’s not starting.

  158. markazulu August 30, 2013 11:16 am

    So anybody else was excited from Taylor Grahams block

  159. al August 30, 2013 11:18 am

    I was making my way to my seat, when, in back of me I heard and obvious usc supporter tell his friend that, “we can’t Hawaii for granted because they have a history of playing hard and with a lot of pride and spirit.”

    …and we did.

  160. al August 30, 2013 11:20 am

    not to forget that we should have aaron zwhalen on campus next year or perhaps as early as this spring.

  161. markazulu August 30, 2013 11:21 am

    I was actually surprised that we didn’t get more yards rushing but it think sack yardage gets taken from rushing yards.

  162. al August 30, 2013 11:21 am

    …and john ursua, gus lavaka, also coming off missions.

    (I hope byu doesn’t try to poach)

  163. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 11:22 am

    If USC goes to a BCS bowl like Georgia team we faced, then I will eat crow and say I was wrong. Oregon St D is going to be even better next week…. Doesn’t help either that the whole Hawaii football team was out partying before the sugar bowl all night anyways…

  164. Bigislandkurt August 30, 2013 11:25 am

    The Woolsey calls are strangely reminiscent of the Inoke Funaki and Bryant Moniz calls of the past. hee hee.

    Early in the season. Gotta give TG a chance to grow from last night’s cracks.


  165. LizKauai August 30, 2013 11:29 am

    I LIKED the recorded haka on the big screen before they ran out.

    I LIKED the new mascot.

    I LIKED the hurryup offense but was sad for THE BAND and THE DANCERS because their numbers were very short.


    I LIKED that the STUDENT SECTION finally filled up after an empty start.

    I LIKED seeing the 12th MAN in the stands!

    Hawaii Football is really a TEAM EFFORT…


  166. markazulu August 30, 2013 11:30 am

    Wily looked pretty good in the first half though and I liked the burst from ST Juste also Lakalaka had some shake and bake in him

  167. Gsky August 30, 2013 11:30 am

    Graham – tunnel vision and no accuracy. Once he loosens up and stops thinking so much, I think he’ll play like he can play.

    What was with all the running time for Langkilde? Should have seen more of Lakalaka. Also, get the ball to St. Juste in the flats and he will move the sticks.

    Lovin the potential of the new wide outs! Definitely an upgrade.

    How come only one pass to a TE. Moleni is a huge target! Easier for Taylor to get the ball to.

    Defense made the game worth watching. They are BEASTS!

  168. Former UH Athlete August 30, 2013 11:31 am

    al, yes. I loved UH’s effort to the final whistle. Its a good sign that Chow has the guys in a good mental state.

    I’d be worried if UH rolled over and quit like UNLV did vs Minnesota. UNLV was in a close game in the 1st half, similar to UH, then when Minnesota got a couple quick scores, the team basically imploded under duress.

    At this point, I see UH is ahead of schedule in the rebuilding process. I know critics see the offense and are freaking out, but they are overlooking the fact that the individual talent is improved at all skill positions. Kirkwood and Haynes look like they are going to be excellent players. Once Kemp gets more expereince, he’s a legit deep threat. UH is in great shape down the road at WR. They just have to get through the rookie mistakes and learn.

    What else can you way about how the defense performed? They were great. Physical, very good speed, and swagger. They are so far ahead of where I expected them to be. The whole key is the big uglies healthy as they don’t have much depth. After playing the toughest front 4 they will face all year, I say UH is in great shape defensively.

  169. markazulu August 30, 2013 11:34 am

    I was also wondering where was our TEs?

  170. cocobean August 30, 2013 11:37 am

    Coach Chow’s draws inspiration from his favorite Tammy Wynette song…Stand By Your Man. Half the stadium knew changing the QB was a moot point. I don’t fault the coach for sticking with one of his most fundamental coaching tenets. It’s part of who he is. Most fans knew this coming into the season.

  171. Warrior Dave August 30, 2013 11:39 am


    Thank goodness Taylor isn’t Kapernick. I feel Kapernick is even more inaccurate. I don’t think SF will be better this year as defenses will be better prepared.

  172. Warrior Dave August 30, 2013 11:42 am

    # 68,

    Yes Graham has bee working with the receivers for over a year. But yesterday was the first time Dline men and LB’ers were beating down on him. Big difference.

  173. Former UH Athlete August 30, 2013 11:46 am

    168, I’m thinking Langklide got the playing time because of pass blocking. Wily was not good in pass protection.

    I too was hoping to see more Lakalaka and St Juste, but I wasn’t expecting a ton of plays from them. I do hope Chow installs a package of plays for St Juste. He’s a special athlete. St Juste has only been at UH for a month or two, so I wouldn’t expect any special play packages until later in the year and as he learns more of the playbook.

    UH is very solid for years to come at RB and WR. They just need to get acclimated to the speed of D1 football. The offensive rookies definitely got a crash course yesterday.

    The biggest concern last year and this year is OLine play. At least nobody will be as talented as USC’s front 7 the rest of the way. Also, UH may not see that many blitz packages either the rest of 2013. USC was pretty relentless with bringing extra rushers from all over. There were twists, stunts, safety, and delayed blitzes that all pretty much got through. At least there’s lots of film to study.

  174. Leahi2 August 30, 2013 11:47 am

    Some of our sportswriters used to say that we needed an offense with a Tight End. During the JJ years and the McMackin years our QBs used to take a beating and not to mention the rush to get the pass off. Well looks like the same thing happened yesterday, TE or no TE. On the other hand our Defense played very very well. Note also that the other team played with a TE. USC is loaded with talent so I guess, overall, our team did quite well. Hope they can get the Kinks ironed our by the time they play OSU next week. Go Rainbow Warriors!

  175. Independent Thinker August 30, 2013 11:51 am

    …in the distance, a faint war drum like beat begins…a signal, perhaps, that the natives are starting to become restless with the chief who led them into the failed battle…

  176. Warrior Dave August 30, 2013 11:54 am


    Marcus Mariota is a special player. The Oregon offense is made for him. So many horses to help him. At this point, he could play in the NFL. IMHO, he is a better player than Kapernick, Sanchez, Bradford, ….

    Graham doesn’t come close to him but so do many of the QB”s in eve football today. He could probably start at Alabama.

  177. WarriorMojo August 30, 2013 11:55 am


    “After playing the toughest front 4 they will face all year, I say UH is in great shape defensively.”

    I’m not following this statement at all. What are you saying?

  178. WarriorMojo August 30, 2013 11:56 am

    ST, too bad about the mascot being a one and done. Is it a questions of finances? Let’s ask JJ if he’s willing to help.

  179. kifi August 30, 2013 11:56 am

    Bewitched was never the same since.

  180. Former UH Athlete August 30, 2013 12:00 pm

    #170.. Yeah, Kiffen is a turd. I don’t know a single USC fan who actually likes him or his coaching ability. I think he’s a great recruiter, but not good as a game coach. Pretty amazing he pulls in 4 & 5 star talent while under NCAA sanctions. Once the Trojans gets smashed by UCLA, he’ll get fired.

    I can only imagine what the USC blogs and message boards were doing last night. Kiffen gets a D in my grades. His game management is poor. He burned their last timeout with quite a bit of time remaining in the 2nd half, and the game wasn’t locked up at that point.

    If I were a USC fan, I’d be worried that they may not get 7 wins. Their QBs were bad. Neither QB were good. Wittek just handed the ball off, and hit a couple balls to Lee when the defense was gassed. Kessler, the QB USC fans were calling for, looked almost as bad as Graham under pressure. Nerves, locking onto WRs too long, bad footwork when moving.

    The USC secondary is a porous as they were last year. Just too bad UH couldn’t test them more. Kirkwood, Kemp and Harding were able to get open deep against them. UH did get robbed by the interference no-call on the deep ball to Kirkwood. That was a perfect ball but the CB tugged Kirkwood’s arm. Harding dropped a deep ball when it hit both his hands. The deep ball was there all night, but either Chow didn’t dial up the plays or the OLine didn’t give time to make a deep throw.

    USC did nothing to answer the questions they had going into last night’s game.

  181. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 30, 2013 12:01 pm


    Funny you should mention Lanklide. I was thinking to myself why Bobby Curran is saying Lakalaka’s name funny.

  182. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal August 30, 2013 12:01 pm

    after a season and 1 game? probably not. by the third full season, yes.

  183. kev-1 August 30, 2013 12:11 pm

    jeezy33 . . . I appreciate your assessments and insights on players, and usually agree. But I think you are being a bit hard on TG. You can’t say those things won’t get better without actually giving him an opportunity to improve it. And I think many QB’s who take so many shots in the pocket would look for check downs quickly. I respect your opinion, I just think you’re drawing conclusions a bit too soon.

  184. kev-1 August 30, 2013 12:13 pm

    It’s too easy to sit say “no excuses” from the outside looking in.

  185. boolakanaka August 30, 2013 12:14 pm

    180–I love the local support, but better than Kaepernick…?? He is incredibly talented, but to leapfrog over Colin? Let us not forget Colin beat out the number I drafted player in his class, Alex Smith, his talent is so immense that pundits, like ex NFL all-pro, and current espn QB gure, say he could be the finest QB of this generation. And while Mark Sanchez is certainly struggling, make no doubt about it, someone that can get two double-digit seasons in the NFL is not a bench player.

    All I can say, is only time will tell, Marcus has plentiful physical attributes, but he also is the benefactor of the all the accoutrements that is singular to an elite BCS program. And while he has won big, in a big time college program, that is a galaxy away from the NFL. Ironically, his biggest asset, speed, will be profoundly mitigated in the NFL. The speed from sideline to sideline is incredible, and it will not allow him either the yardage of forgiveness of a bad decision which college allows. That said, keep rooting him on, and time will tell….

  186. Independent Thinker August 30, 2013 12:16 pm

    Some of us have more tolerance for losing than others. I for one have little tolerance for losing. That’s the bottom line. 3 seasons? No way!!! I have seen all I need to see. Case closed for me.

    You tolerate losing long enough, you yourself become a loser. It becomes a part of who you are, your persona, you psyche, your results, your institution, your person.

    Hiring a guy rejected as a HC candidate by the NFL and many other D1 teams might not have been such a good decision on the part of the UH; sort of like the scene in Anchorman where Will Ferrel, as Burgundy, says “milk was a bad choice”.

  187. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 30, 2013 12:18 pm

    So no on here thought that Chow was going to pull a Denny Green impersonation after the game? 🙂

  188. Former UH Athlete August 30, 2013 12:21 pm

    188… to back you up… look what’s happened to Philip Rivers at San Diego…. goes from All-Pro QB to terrible once his OLine was broken down to injury and free agency.

  189. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 12:26 pm

    188.. I am being hard… But I just dont see it… Basic throws aren’t being executed. I’ve been through a bunch of QBs from Jones era. I don’t count the option QBs in the 80s and 90s…

    I would be less harsh if he wasn’t a junior but Graham doesn’t have much time to develop. Too many misreads throughout the night and inaccurate throws when he had time. The whole 2nd half, Norm called 3 step drop throws and he still couldn’t complete the ball to open guys.

    If you look at all the good QBs in the MWC, none of those guys as freshman were as behind as Graham is now..

    David Graves first few starts were still a whole lot better..

  190. Buffoman August 30, 2013 12:26 pm

    Succeed or fail, Coach Chow that he is on a horse that is taking him to his last coaching round up. Like every competitor, he too would like to exit a winner, as that sunset would look much better than one filled with dark clouds.

    That being said, I am certain that he is cognizant of what must be done to best achieve that great ride. Getting a stellar performance on the field should meet the ultimate objective of assuring that ride: more folks in the stands. He is not so stubborn or stupid to take a position just to be “right” in his own mind when it goes against what the ultimate objective.

    I am sure he’d hate to sit on the porch being forced into an early view of that sunset mumbling to himself that he was right and everyone was wrong only to have an audience of one, himself.

    If the game was a total disaster, we’d all be the ones to assist in the push him to that early inglorious exit. But it was not, the defense looked so much better I have not seen anyone who questioned why their favorite player was not on the early depth chary did not play.

    The offense was bad, but as many who understand team sports have pointed out, there are many variables to building success that this group has not yet achieved. Some has to do with coaching up the players but as those who have coached know, there are those intangibles that at times makes that task of unity, anticipation and execution difficult.

    It is the first game and I am like most who have not totally drunk from the “Kool aid bowl” but am still standing by to possibly get another taste before throwing it out.

  191. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 12:28 pm

    194. And what happened to Aaron Rodgers with his bad O line? Or Tom Brady a few years ago when his O line was all hurt? Rivers is struggling because he is on the decline… Jay Cutler has the worst O line probably and he still wins in Chicago. Big Ben has an awful O line for years and still wins.

  192. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 12:29 pm

    Colt Brennan had an awful O line when we went undefeated. Keith Ah Soon and Keoni Steinhoff were our 2 starting tackles… He anticipated his routes right away and knew where to lead his WRs. Didn’t hold on to the ball.

  193. Jonj August 30, 2013 12:31 pm

    FUHA your killing me!! Your so inconsistent with everything you say! when greg mack was getting fired i fought for him saying he had 3new wrs a new rb and frosh starting oline and they jus needed time to gel and get more comfortable in the more complex R n S. Now your saying a qb needs time to gel wit his receivers and better protection. Get more consistent with your arguments!

    Chow needs to get wit the times and get the more mobile qb in the game and move the pocket or roll outs or whatever! Becuz it takes one or more men out of coverage

  194. Jeezy33 August 30, 2013 12:48 pm


    Thank u!!!!!!

    chow is going to go through 3 qbs on 3 years if tuileta signs and the inexperience line is going to be used over and over..

    O line excuse going to be used over and over … it’s like now we have to give naeole 3 years to bring in and develop his guys..

  195. Former UH Athlete August 30, 2013 12:55 pm

    181… LOL… nice catch, I guess I had two trains of thought going on. I think what I meant was…

    UH offensive line won’t face a front 4 that athletic the rest of the season.

    The other thought that was running through my mind was that UH’s front 4 survived USC without injury. USC tried to pound UH physically, but they held up and that puts them in good shape because most of the MWC teams on the schedule are finesse teams. DLinemen don’t take the same physical punishment than a power run team.

    UH’s defense is better equipped to defend spread teams this year as the team speed is good, and I feel that Kaumeyer is confident to leave NeQuan and Maggitt on islands from time to time to free up an extra safety for run support or blitz. That’s a great luxury for defensive coordinators.

  196. Think2Much August 30, 2013 12:58 pm

    Many positives from the game. First the D. Remember we were playing against the 24th ranked team in the nation and a much bigger program. They have more 4 star recruits so overall they are a better team, at least athletically, as will be many of the other ranked teams we will play. No doubt we will have a chance in many games if the D holds up. Kirkwood and Gant. They go up and grab the ball. Just gotta get them the ball. Guzman punting and overall special teams. Steady. No mistakes. So all of the burden will be on the offense and the OC, NC. He has to find ways to win. Players can give the effort but if the game planning, play calling and game management isn’t superior, winning will be difficult unless we want to play Div II opponents.

  197. Last Call August 30, 2013 12:58 pm

    Has it ever dawned on anyone that the QB is from Ohio State, and who else is from Ohio State ?

  198. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal August 30, 2013 12:59 pm

    Independent Thinker: Let’s be realistic. Nobody likes losing but a program isn’t rebuilt in a single year plus one game. Rule of thumb is to give the coach about three seasons to get all of his recruits in and set the foundation and then see where the program stands at that time. At a certain point, it’s not about outcome oriented thinking (win and win now!) but a process oriented one. Take a bad first year and a bad/mediocre second season (as long as there’s progress being demonstrated) and see if the team is going in the right direction in the third year before canning him.

    Whether or not chow has the chops to do anything with this football program as the head coach, i have no idea yet, but it’s too early to tell right now.

  199. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal August 30, 2013 1:04 pm

    jeezy: what’s a realistic expectation for you in the second year of chow’s tenure after completely changing offensive philosophy and personnel and playing with a very poor offensive line? 7 wins? a bcs berth? if there is no progress made by the end of this season (at least in the product being put out on the field) and no hawaii bowl berth next season, then i say it’s time to start calling for chow’s head. until then, we have to be realistic about the process.

  200. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 1:04 pm

    204. I got heat for my post a couple of weeks ago but my point on Chow recruiting his own O linemen that are way behind Macks guys is a concern. If Griffin can’t smell the field as a junior even when Shigematsu went down, it goes to show our evaluation on O line recruits were poor this past season.

  201. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 1:07 pm

    205. I said 4 wins all off season…. The defense is better than I expected… But the offense is a lot worse than I expected. Regardless of opponent, I expect the offense to have a little success. Even last year with less talent we moved the ball better against USC on the road…

    Chow being an offensive mind, I expected to be moving forward from last year. Not backwards. It’s a huge concern…

  202. obachan August 30, 2013 1:07 pm

    My thought is you play to win the game. The QB is the most impactful (is that a word?) position to give your team a chance to change the course of a game. Chow has always demonstrated a “come hell or high water” approach to staying with the starter. If you stay with the starter you give him the opportunity to gain much needed experience during the game as well as the opportunity to apply more Salon Pas or Tiger Balm after the game. On the downside the backup QBs never get a chance to smell the fresh green scent of artificial turf. My cows would freak on that stuff. Moreover, you run the chance of your defense getting demoralized by continued turnovers and spending more time on the field than they should. Chow rightly emphasizes best effort to the last snap of the ball but what if the coach isn’t willing to change things up on the offense to give a decent chance to win the game – that’s what we use to call “kill fight.”

  203. Warrior Storm Brewin August 30, 2013 1:12 pm

    Relax people. It’s not the end of the world.

    Boola, Former UH Athlete, and others that are sensible in their analysis, are right in their assessments. Lots of good stuff to build on. It’s not panic time yet.

    Time to panic for SC tho. SC Offense got man-handled by UH Defense. They have a fairly tough Pac-12 schedule. No Oregon, but #5 Stanford and ranked UCLA who both beat SC last year.

    Safe to say that both UH and USC Offenses need to work on stuff.

    I know it’s frustrating, but you know what’s more frustrating? Complaining fans.

    People who don’t put in any of the work ON or OFF the field shouldn’t be constantly complaining. You don’t like it? Don’t be a fan of UH. Go be a fan of Boise or Oregon. UH really doesn’t need whiner and complainer fans. There’s too much opposition out there against UH and non-BCS schools already. Heck, the Mountain West treats UH like a tumor. We don’t need internal combustion to add to that.

    Frustrated? Go read a good book. Go meet new people. Go fly a kite. Smell the fresh air. Bathe in sunshine. Drink a iced coffee drink at the beach. Watch the kids play in the water. … Hawaii is a beautiful place, but you have to stop to smell the flowers to appreciate it. Some of you don’t seem to be doing that in general. Frustrations in your personal life come through on this blog. Happy people aren’t constantly negative. You know who you are. Look within before you blame outside. When you point your finger at someone, how many are pointing back at you??

    Some of you guys take football too seriously. It’s a distraction in life at best. It’s amateur athletics. Sheesh. Gee wiz. Golly wolly gum drops.

  204. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal August 30, 2013 1:12 pm

    4 wins sounds fair. That’s what I would expect too. It’s very early in the season, and yeah. The offense looks like absolute crap. If the offense still looks like absolute crap midseason and at the end, then at the very least, chow will be/needs to be put on the hot seat. yes, it’s process oriented, but there needs to be demonstrable progress by the third year or changes should be made. I don’t think we gave mack a very long leash about this so I wouldn’t expect chow to get an overly long leash either.

  205. Bowwar August 30, 2013 1:15 pm


    Warriors 30 – Beavers 27

  206. boolakanaka August 30, 2013 1:21 pm

    209–Many people in business and education like to speak of things that have an impact as being “impactful,” but this term does not appear in most dictionaries and is not well thought of by traditionalists. Use “influential” or “effective” instead would be the counsel of pretentious high muckty mucks in a college english class. That said, I’m pretty sure that’s what they say in Makawao when you do a very good jump packing your luggage to disneyland….for instance–” dat bugga, got all da clothes in da suitcase…he when imm-pack-full”

    See it’s a real word.

  207. Darren August 30, 2013 1:25 pm

    #1 thing to work on for next game…the offense (yes, it takes the whole unit) needs to figure out how to connect on the hot read. Because after last night, every upcoming defense will game plan to bring the heat. We need to figure out, sooner than later, how to make teams pay for this…

  208. UHfan808 August 30, 2013 1:25 pm

    We have a young team: Remember that we had to start from scratch after June Jones and Coach Mack left because the two essentially left the coffers dry!

    We have to give them time to grow. We have to look for indicating factors – those things that show glimpses of hope, if you will – and as fans patiently and graciously encourage the team and coaches on when we see things that are NOT good indicating factors.

    If we can be positive for and toward them, the team will be more inclined to fight for the win for us. We have to remember to constantly convey motivating pressure to do well without turning them off.

    Our not understanding where we came from (their skills knowledge and ability), not giving them chance to improve upon where we came from, cutting them down without understand their growth process, and thinking only in the negative aspect serves to set the tone for a negative community response and can work against us by completely turning off the team and their motivation.

    If thru all of the negativity the team can still play with passion and fortitude, then we have a strong coach team with strong stomach BUT why in heck would we want the coach to have to put up with is being negative fans in addition to having to coach the players, too? Coaches have enough to do let alone coach us fans, too!

    I say, let the coach coach and let us fans be mindful of how we positively influence their progress when we’re out and about in the community!

    If we want them to listen to our ideas, we fans must be able to find a different way to positively provide constructive criticism without turning them off completely.

    Well, that’s my two cents. I’m just trying hard to be a positive sense in our community and sharing with you all my thoughts 🙂

  209. obachan August 30, 2013 1:34 pm

    #215 boolakanaka…For some reason the word reminds me of how I feel when I’m constipated.

  210. Haleakala August 30, 2013 1:35 pm


    Gotta feel sorry for the constantly negative posters. They are not happy people.

  211. Steve P August 30, 2013 1:36 pm

    219 could not agree more. Having said that, I think Chow played a little too conservative to suit me. Since Graham’s long ball has been there all spring, and fall practice…and Sc’s secondary was, well, suspect, I would have put it out there a bit more. Grahams short and intermediate throws had a panic velocity to them because of the great pressure put on him….and they created int’s.

  212. obachan August 30, 2013 1:37 pm

    sorry – was refereering [referring] to #213

  213. UHfan808 August 30, 2013 1:37 pm

    I believe ONE person CAN make a difference.

    So, for evaluation sake:

    For coach- I believe Norm Chow is making a difference.

    For new AD- I see Ben Jay positively assessing what’s going on and is already on the path to making more difference.

    For us Tsaiko-fans and non-Tsaiko fans- It’s said that the more ideas available, the better the outcome will be! We fans have to figure out how to become a positive influence but we will never get it done by thinking and operating in negativity mode (= pissing each other off) ! Essence of team building is to take all ideas and turn them into even better ones, transform them to a positive result!

    It’s all about a one-team effort!

    Indicating factors say:

    1) The coach is trying and doing

    2) The team is trying and doing

    3) The players are trying and doing

    4) community and fans – Are we trying and doing toward positive result, too? Questions for us: What is our part? What are the indicating factors that show we are loyal rabid UH Rainbow Warrior fans? I contend that we fans have to try and do our part, too!

  214. Haleakala August 30, 2013 1:38 pm


    There is always hope and a Rainbow will come through with the sun after the rain.

  215. boolakanaka August 30, 2013 1:39 pm

    “Ahana koko lele! Peanut buttah, jellea!!” Dats the version we use to say back in the day, back in the hood, the hood being Alvah Scott Elementary.

  216. UHfan808 August 30, 2013 1:39 pm

    215 – uh, I’m stuck Steve P, 219 came after your 215? 🙂

  217. Former UH Athlete August 30, 2013 1:40 pm

    On to Oregon St… Interesting to note that Charles Tua’au, the same Tua’au that OSU poached from UH during the February signing period, is not on their roster. Not much info on internet on his whereabouts.

    The Beaves play 1AA Power Eastern Washington. Should be interesting game as June Jones’ SMU left over QBs seem to find their way to EWU. And yes I still won’t call it “FCS” because its a stupid name. The spread is 27. I know there’s a big talent gap between the teams, but for whatever reason, the Beaves tend to play down to their competition. I would lean EWU to cover.

    OSU returns two quality QBs Sean Mannion & Cody Vaz. Neither will overwhelm you with talent, but they are both good college QBs as they take good care of the ball.

    The Beavers return 17 starters in all, but they lose their two best athletes (WR Marcus Weaton and All-American CB Jordan Poyer) to the NFL. OSU overachieved last year at 9-4 and got HC Mike Riley off the hot seat. I think they take a step back this year. Just a gut feeling.

    We’ll get a better picture of how they are once they play tomorrow.

  218. boolakanaka August 30, 2013 1:41 pm

    214–Obachan–dats right, too many guavas and you going feel real impactful.

  219. UHfan808 August 30, 2013 1:41 pm

    Oops, I was being so rabid that I forgot to say:

    Hello Tsai-kos! 🙂

  220. Stephen Tsai August 30, 2013 1:44 pm

    I think credit for Daley’s improvement goes to Tony Tuioti and Lance Samuseva — both of whom coach the linebackers — as well as Kaumeyer and, of course, Daley himself. He’s come a long way. Mostly mentally. He always had the physical tools.

  221. Darren August 30, 2013 1:45 pm

    All I wanted out of last night was for USC to feel like they took some solid cracks in the jaw…think that was accomplished. Loved seeing our d-tackles making plays on the sidelines. Think that was Malepeai that absolutely laid out the USC TE on what looked to be headed towards a sizeable gain. Moses tracking down the RB on a toss sweep. Unreal…can’t wait to add Kennedy into that rotation.

  222. Stephen Tsai August 30, 2013 1:46 pm

    Charles Tua‘au would have been a (Rainbow) Warrior if he didn’t disappear on the first night of his recruiting visit. He was the rare local guy who “tripped” UH.

  223. wafan August 30, 2013 1:46 pm

    Pomai, again . . .

    30 – 27, ‘Bows, naturally!

    Thanks for keeping track on the pick ’em.

  224. DaMenehune August 30, 2013 1:47 pm

    Pomai UH 14 them 42

  225. UHfan808 August 30, 2013 1:48 pm

    To those who post non-UH stuff here:

    Do you not have anyone to talk with?

    Why don’t you just post about University of Hawaii info and news then ppl here would be more inclined to..uh respond to you .. Rather than ignore you lol

    Anyways, you must be so entirely bored out of your wits reading about UH sports here on this blog!

    Either that or you must be dying to post stuff about UH stuff but just don’t know what to say?

    You can do it, you know. Just start by saying, “Hi everybody! 🙂 ”


  226. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 1:50 pm

    220. Even Woodard looks a lot faster and leaner this year… But still strong… I could be wrong but it seemed like Marcus Malepeai was the most dominant D linemen last night… Even though they all played good… Seemed like he constantly beat his man and made plays behind the line of scrimmage… He’s gonna be a good one before its over.. I still remember him beating a 4 start Offensive linemen in that all star game with Hawaii vs Mainland squad

  227. Haleakala August 30, 2013 1:51 pm

    I enjoyed the game yesterday despite the offenses problems. The defense was marvelous and gave USC fits in the first and third quarters. That was very enjoyable to see.

    Plus there is hope for improvement by the offense in future games. It is a young squad with little experience. I didn’t expect much more than they showed but I expect that they will get in rhythm with more playing time.

  228. Darren August 30, 2013 1:51 pm

    ST, are there stats anywhere that shows how many snaps each player was in for? Was expecting more rotation on d-line, but they seemed to keep it pretty tight. Seemed like Yap and Woodard were in for a high majority of the snaps.

  229. Former UH Athlete August 30, 2013 1:52 pm

    Don’t worry about the negative posters here…. It’s 100x worse on various USC blogs talking about their offense.

    The media is sugar coating the recaps with the defense’s performance, but there is serious venom being spewed about their QB situation and their season outlook after the Hawaii game.

  230. Former UH Athlete August 30, 2013 1:54 pm

    ST, Dailey looks like a different player this year. Great job on coaching and Dailey for putting in the hard work.

    He set the tone last night for the defense. Make sure to save that 1st & Goal replay for future media uses.

  231. Independent Thinker August 30, 2013 1:55 pm

    @213. We get it. You believe in Peter Pan. Thanks.

  232. Darren August 30, 2013 1:59 pm

    Based on the team’s performance last night, I really believe that we will NOT be the last place team in our division. IF this offense can somehow consistently operate in say 3rd gear (we rarely got out of 1st last night), then we have the potential to really torpedo some folks this season.

  233. PokeBowl808 August 30, 2013 1:59 pm

    Watching both offenses last night remind us why the NFL has preseason games and why the SEC rarely schedules tough non-conference games to start the year.

  234. MattO August 30, 2013 2:00 pm

    Liiiittle more worried about Ore-gon than SC. D will prob still be fatigued from that herculean effort yesterday. O will be better (hopefully), but still not 100% on the same page, away crowd, away distractions, higher ranked team.

    Hoping Tyler can get up to game speeds soon, and the receivers will get their read options down a bit more. They’re all young, so hey, can’t expect Manning to Welker.

    And the nay-sayers can complain all they want, but last I checked, this year’s score was an improvement in all areas over last year. True, no Matt Barkley, but it’s still a very, very good SC team with a stout D. Btw, my USC friends are in full-on panic mode. To them, yesterday was a loss, and they’re now calling for Kiffin’s head. Sheesh.

  235. jeezy33 August 30, 2013 2:00 pm

    People mistake negative for honesty….Its not like I don’t give credit where its due. Selective reading I guess… Even when I am giving praise, it’s not me trying to pump someone up… Its just being honest in observations… Maybe I am over reacting in how I think Graham will pan out.. But there is no excuses to how poorly he played last night… He seemed to even admit that…

    Hopefully we can give Nevada a run for their money.

  236. boolakanaka August 30, 2013 2:04 pm

    OK, along the line of thinking out of the box….let us consider that the football Raiders are now contemplating starting Terrel Pryor over Matt Flynn and Aaron Rogers understudy. Athleticism versus a game manager, do we perhaps have something like that brewing in the Warrior ranks? Perhaps the posit to consider is do we need the best athlete at QB? I certainly don’t know–discuss amongst yourselves….

  237. UHfan808 August 30, 2013 2:10 pm

    231 – I am proof positive that Peter Pan exists. (Yep, I actually get one long-a– sad-happy story!)

    One just has to believe – really believe – in order to do things to change behavior to make positive change.

    Never discount the power of positivity.

    Positivity is what moves mountains and oceans.

    I’m sure you know this for yourself and for others around you. Like I said, I am proof positive and I do believe one person can make a difference.

  238. UHfan808 August 30, 2013 2:11 pm

    222 – tripped, ST? Tell more?

  239. Derek August 30, 2013 2:12 pm

    Al, I could be wrong but I thought Aaron Zwahlen will return to the team in 2015 from his church mission. And, you are right that we need the Holy Grail, like right now. That’s the one player and position that can make all the difference in the world for our team. We would have a winning record. If Moniz, Brennan, and Rolovich, even Jason Wheildon was playing now, we would have a winning record.

    Unless things differently over time, you can pretty much tell after just one game that a QB look like a good one, or at least a very good feel. I didn’t know Ben Roethlisberger when he came with Miami Ohio when he was a freshman, but after I saw his play I said to myself this guy is going to play in the NFL. I didn’t like Kaepernick because he was playing at Nevada, but you could see he was tall, lanky, fast, fast hands, fast ball handling and plenty of athletic ability. The question was his throwing. Took him awhile but he got better. He’s the only QB in major college football who have passed for over 10,000 yards and over 4,000 yards rushing in his college career. Obviously, Jim Harbaugh saw something in him in his potential. Go Niners. Harbaugh also recruited Luck to Stanford and he’s going to be great. He’s pretty much there already. The first time I saw Tony Romo play UH when he was at Eastern Illinois, I said to myself that this guy throws so easily and is always on target. I never cared for Leinert, Sanchez, or Palmer as a QB at USC. I’m not high on Matt Barkley either as a pro. Obviously, they will not go into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Russell Wilson is an interesting study. He is short, but this guy makes plays, even at NC St., at Wisconsin, and now at Seattle. You could see this very early on when he was a freshman at NC St. I like Teddy Bridgewater a lot at Louisville. I liked Kellen Moore from Boise St. too. NFL scouts didn’t draft him because he too short and his arm is not strong enough. But, he’s still there with the Detroid Lions and he will probably win the back up job behind Stafford. Moore is smart, knows the game, and he makes the plays when he need to. You could see that in the preseason games also. As it pertains to Graham, well, sorry, I just don’t see it and I would be pleasantly shocked if he turns out to be actually a very good QB and I would be the first to say that I was wrong. Having said that, the bottom line is winning games. A QB’s play is the single biggest reason how a team’s win or lose a football game. It’s either you do it or don’t do it. Simple as comparing apples and oranges!!!!!

  240. Independent Thinker August 30, 2013 2:15 pm

    @237. Tell us, fan, where does he live? Does he advise norm, like you do? Please share. Thanks.

  241. boolakanaka August 30, 2013 2:22 pm

    241–IT–huh, was that question for me?

  242. d1shima August 30, 2013 2:24 pm

    Air Raid vs RnS/Air Raid on ESPN

  243. Darren August 30, 2013 2:25 pm

    Correction…that was Saui who laid out TE Grimble on the sideline. Hustle plays…gotta love them.

  244. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal August 30, 2013 2:25 pm

    IT, stop being a pompous douchebag. You’re not even making an argument, you’re just making fun of the dude. Just because you think the sky for UH football is falling and that norm chow should be fired after a single season plus one game doesn’t necessarily make it so.

  245. UHfan808 August 30, 2013 2:26 pm

    235- I never said not to be truthful and I never said to sugar coat.

    One always has to tell the truth but the key is how to tell the truth:

    I’m saying there’s a good way and a bad way to go about providing opinions.

    When you wanna piss someone off, say it the bad way.

    When you want someone to buy in, say it the good way.

    Which one would you be more receptive to if someone were attempting to give you bad news trying to change your behavior?

    Would you get pissed off if they did it the bad way and would you consider their ideas of they did it the good way?

    We are all human. What you would want for yourself, most likely others would want for themselves, too.

    But then comes patience:

    When you have to learn something new, can you learn it lightening quick? Maybe and maybe not depending what it is and whether you care to be better or not. In that sense everyone is different.

    So, if you want ppl to change, in order to convince them takes time, patience, and understanding on your part that they may not get it the way you want just like how it is you will accept feedback in order to change your own behavior.

    Everything about changing ppl’s mind: it takes time. Basically, you cannot change their mind but you can change yourself in the way you help them to understand by understanding how to explain to them in a positive way that will not piss them off and allow them to buy in.

  246. Former UH Athlete August 30, 2013 2:26 pm

    232, Based off what I saw from UNLV yesterday… there’s ZERO chance UH finishes in last place. UNLV is in danger of quitting on their coach. The talent has improved under Hauck, but UNLV hasn’t translated talent into wins.

    On a side note… How on earth did Fresno give up 51 points to Rutgers? And yes, Derrick Carr attempted 74 passes.

  247. Independent Thinker August 30, 2013 2:27 pm

    Braddah boola. No. Uhfan808.

  248. WarriorMojo August 30, 2013 2:30 pm

    Hey, Indolent Thinker. Back off.

  249. Shoko August 30, 2013 2:31 pm

    Fresno State is overrated!

  250. boolakanaka August 30, 2013 2:32 pm

    243–Just for future reference for everyone, let me caveat by saying that I have nothing of real substance to offer the board. Mines is an enjoyment of communicating with all the folks who live back home, and who take interest in Warrior football–that said, please note that much of my nonsensical comments have been shaped by the following:

    falling of the swings, right on my head, when I was 7 living in Aiea;

    12 years of Hawai’i public schools;

    weekly lickins applied to me by many members of my ohana;

    getting shot with 2 (two) bbs, right on my temple, when playing “war” with my cousins, you know when you use to stuff your long sleeve tee shirts with newspapers;

    too many green bottles in my 20s; and

    several non-consequential degrees and universities.

    So basically, I putting down a lot of words without too much substance, and not taking things too seriously.

  251. UHfan808 August 30, 2013 2:33 pm

    240- There can exist a Peter Pan in everyone even you.

    It’s a choice.

    You set the limit(s) of your own existence.

    If you want to limit yourself (allow obstacles to hinder you), then you will allow yourself to be hindered.

    If you allow yourself to exceed your limits, then guess what? You set the standard for yourself and your limitations.

    The skies are the limits for you or not, depending on what you want for yourself and others around you.

    I say, be unlimited in mission vision and goals and evaluate your purpose for being regularly and frequently.

    Always think: Is this what I want? Is this the person I want to be?

  252. UHfan808 August 30, 2013 2:36 pm

    247- uh..what doth that say? 🙂

  253. Darren August 30, 2013 2:38 pm

    One game…kind of a small sample size to really evaluate the long term potential of a QB’s performance, no? If that was the case, we should also be able to re-elect a president after one month. However, if there’s ZERO improvement over the course of the next 2 – 3 games, then aforesaid thoughts may become considerations…

  254. UHfan808 August 30, 2013 2:39 pm

    254- yup exactly! agreed!

  255. Babo August 30, 2013 2:40 pm

    Wow, group hug everyone.

  256. wafan August 30, 2013 2:43 pm

    Wasting your time.

  257. Shoko August 30, 2013 2:43 pm

    Since when did this blog turn into a support group?

    Okay, fine. {{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}

  258. cocobean August 30, 2013 2:45 pm

    Boola our top 3 QBs are game managers. Graham has the best QB physique and arm, Schroeder has the 2nd best arm plus the most game experience, Higgins is the runt of the litter but has the most pocket awareness.

    Have not seen Ikaika at all. He’s the great known.

  259. Babo August 30, 2013 2:45 pm

    LOL, actually Uhfan is correct. You have to support the team, but bruddah, man does it piss me off when they lose like that…..

  260. Shoko August 30, 2013 2:45 pm

    Anyway, defense played great last night and will provide a respite for the offense to come together. And if not, then I suggest a good therapist.

  261. wafan August 30, 2013 2:46 pm

    Have not seen rain we had yesterday in a long time.

    Streets and building were flooded — storm drains could not handle the quantity of water. It was like a few folks spraying the windshield with garden hoses, the wipers just could not keep up.

  262. wafan August 30, 2013 2:49 pm


  263. boolakanaka August 30, 2013 2:51 pm

    260–coco–Again, not saying that’s the way to go, rather its an interesting thought process that the Raiders are using in their decision making for a starting QB. On the other hand, they have not seen a winning season in eons some perhaps, we should not look to them for counsel. Oh, I remember my original point–that there are several ways to put shoyu on a mango….i.e.which makes sense for us…??

  264. Independent Thinker August 30, 2013 2:52 pm

    Right on. Right on. Shoots. Shoots. I can follow that. Fan, can you arrange for Peter Pan to give norm a little pep talk next Tuesday at about 330pm at Chinatown? Right on. Right on. Shoots. Shoots.

  265. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal August 30, 2013 2:53 pm

    Also, boola. Matt Flynn is stinking it up during preseason. at this point, how can pryor be any worse (although he probably will be pretty bad this season)? the raiders are a wreck.

  266. PurpleMaple August 30, 2013 2:57 pm

    We think we no can beat Nevada. One reason – Rolovich. But game against Fresno should be more interesting. Maybe we get chance with our D.

  267. SteveM August 30, 2013 2:57 pm

    Good afternoon everyone!

    The USC defense was stuffing and sacking us last night… but we gave as good as we got. I have not cheered so hard for the defense since the days of Tomey and Wagner!

    Now, if we could get point-a-minute offense like in the days of JJ…

    I think the offense will come around.

    In 2007, we chanted “I BELIEVE”!

    I believe!

  268. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal August 30, 2013 3:00 pm

    idk, purple maple. fresno just dropped 52 points on rutgers. if they score 28-35, i don’t know if UH’s offense at this point can keep up.

  269. ChowIsPau August 30, 2013 3:02 pm


    Fire chow.

  270. haka August 30, 2013 3:04 pm

    Lot’s of good fan opinion here,

    But no one here is coach worthy.

    If they were, they would be.

    No one here has all the answers.

    But everyone here is fan worthy.

    If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be here.

    Some know more than others.

    Others know more than some.

    But everyone here has an opinion.

    If they didn’t, they wouldn’t be a fan.

  271. Shoko August 30, 2013 3:12 pm

    I think the Nevada game will be interesting. This is the year the Rolo can actually say that its his offense since Ault never gave up the responsibility of play calling. With Rolo planning on opening the passing game in addition to the Pistol run-first offense, I expect things will have a different look this year.

  272. boolakanaka August 30, 2013 3:12 pm hit that on the head. Thank god for Russell Wilson to save their butts…on the other hand, it was costly 26 million dollar mistake, with 11 of that being guaranteed.

  273. Independent Thinker August 30, 2013 3:13 pm

    You da man, Haka. Brah, you one poet?

  274. willieboy August 30, 2013 3:13 pm

    Once Taylor Graham gets back up to game speed mentally and physically then more pass completions will surely follow. This guy looks like the real deal….strong arm, nice deep ball….he just hasn’t played in an actual game for a while. I say Nevada will be his true coming out game…until then keep the faith! Go Bows!

  275. Pokebowl808 August 30, 2013 3:19 pm

    Old Southwest Conference rivals, Texas Tech tied with SMU 6-6 in 2nd quarter.

  276. Pokebowl808 August 30, 2013 3:25 pm

    Air Raid v RnS is producing Foodland quality fireworks so far.

  277. kryon August 30, 2013 3:25 pm

    I’m one of those who was excited when chow got hired. Thinking we would have a pro style offensive minded guru. How could I be so wrong? Where is that old school BYU offensive philosophy? That USC offense? Our offense seems to have no philosophy and no identity at all. It looks like a jack of all trades master of none kind of thing going on. Where is the knowledge of an offensive guru shown? Great coaches know how to utilize their strengths and hide their weaknesses. We can’t. Which I find funny cause he was suppose to be a mastermind.

  278. Shoko August 30, 2013 3:27 pm

    Yep, so much for high-scoring offenses.

  279. jimmy the lock August 30, 2013 3:33 pm

    QB admittedly had a bad day. Looks like the o-line had a bad day. Main thing is to not continue having bad days.

    Even A-Rod on ped’s had bad days.

    Just keep working, GO RAINBOW WARRIORS!


  280. Former UH Athlete August 30, 2013 3:34 pm

    I think the best bet is to take the under every game until the OLine starts playing better. The defense looks like the real deal, but the offense will struggle until they figure out how to keep the QB upright.

  281. kryon August 30, 2013 3:37 pm

    I think we need to hire an oc and chow be more of hc. He looks lost on the field. Making bad decisions. Not making the right calls to play. Different view from above than the sideline. But really, what is our offensive philosophy? The offense he has installed is nothing compared to what I seen from chow in his previous stops. I think he is lost and it shows in how our offense plays. A guru should be able to adjust to make things work. Instead he blames the talent level we have or youth. Uhh, coach? If you have 3 seconds to pass the ball why have your receivers run 5 second routes? Where’s the fake pitch one way then pitch the other? Where’s deception? Where’s keeping defense honest?

  282. gobows August 30, 2013 3:40 pm

    #160 al

    You got inside scoop on aaron, or you getting him confused with someone else? Cause the buggah just went on his mission a couple months ago, not expected back till 2015.

  283. kryon August 30, 2013 3:44 pm

    I don’t blame the oline or qb. The coach should not have them be in that situation. I blame the offensive philosophy, play calling, and the lack of adjusting. As coach you know you’re young and inexperienced, shouldn’t you devise a scheme to hide that? Quick pass, reverses, screens, bombs, etc. Nope not us. We are still going to run 5 second routes with 3 seconds to pass. Runs up the middle with no fakes or counters. Crazy!!!

  284. MattO August 30, 2013 3:55 pm

    These comments are hilarious. It’s one game. The first game. With a ton of true freshman and a new QB. AGAINST USC.

    Reminds of the San Jose game I saw awhile ago. Our new QB was struggling and the guy in front of us kept yelling, “YOU SUCK! BRING BACK TIMMY CHANG!”

    But Colt did pretty good after that.

  285. gobows August 30, 2013 3:55 pm

    #251 boola

    Small kid time I fell on my head several times, amazingly each time i woke up sitting in the same chair at the kitchen table with my mada telling me to hold the bag ice. Till this day i still dont know how i got home.

  286. gobows August 30, 2013 3:55 pm

    #251 boola

    Small kid time I fell on my head several times, amazingly each time i woke up sitting in the same chair at the kitchen table with my mada telling me to hold the bag ice. Till this day i still dont know how i got home.

  287. jeezIknowitall August 30, 2013 3:58 pm


  288. gobows August 30, 2013 4:01 pm

    #288 kryon

    Exactly! If line cant protect for 3 seconds, you freakin need to throw in 2 seconds. Simple math. Not geometry or rocket science. Coach mack had same problem. Could it be an age thing, they the same age…old.

  289. kryon August 30, 2013 4:08 pm

    Its Not the players. Its The coach. This the 13th game with the same offensive lost philosophy. Where is this offensive mastermind being seen on the field? On the play calling? No where. It can’t be that his offense only works for 4-5 star players. It worked at BYU. And they played everyone tough with the same caliber of players we have. I just don’t get it. This is not chow. This is an impersonator.

  290. jmor56 August 30, 2013 4:12 pm

    I don’t think its fair to judge Graham’s QB talent in one game. Starting your very first game vs a very athletic defense just ups the difficulty level. Part of Graham’s poor play can be attributed to the WR’s inexperience/hands, the offensive line , lack of good play calling by the OC and lets not forget USC’s defense loaded with 4 and 5 star talent had something to do with it as well.

    As a fan I’m willing to give Graham time to grow as a QB. He has all the tools to be a great one. We all have our days where nothing goes right and everything goes wrong and maybe yesterday was one of those days for Graham. Lets give the kid a chance and the support he needs to realize his potential. I think the kid deserves it for wanting to be a WARRIOR as I’m sure he could have transferred elsewhere.

  291. Inyoface August 30, 2013 4:16 pm

    SMU just robbed of a td for a bogus holding call.

  292. kryon August 30, 2013 4:18 pm

    Nah, not age. My grandpa is older then chow and he can count up to 10 still. 🙂 I think chow is just overwhelmed and stubborn. He doesn’t want to admit he is wrong in not having a oc. Plus he can’t stand the fact to let someone else run the o. If chow could just admit that leaving the DC in control n free is good, cuz the d is good, then he would c how having an oc would be good too. Then all he has to worry about is controlling the game wit them. I’m pretty sure that’s y there is a position called oc. It helps tremendously.

  293. boolakanaka August 30, 2013 4:26 pm

    297–Gobows–honest truth; My moms was at a “parent-teacher” conference, with Miss Arakaki in the 4th grade, saying boola is very bright, BUT..and goes off on this supa long list of violations: tardy, dirty clothes, tripping in dodge ball, stealing crayons, gum chewing, selling mui for profit on school grounds, making 3rd graders carry his lunch….etc. Boom,out of nowhere, my moms left cross me right in front of Miss Arakaki, displacing me from my chair….my teachers response….”please, there will be plenty of time for that later….”

  294. haka August 30, 2013 4:29 pm

    Alright! Finished the yard work and fed the dogs!

    Just gotta take a shower and head to The Stanley and watch the Wahine kick some booty!

    Like yesterday, it’s gonna be a lot of fun tonight cheering for the home team!

    Win or lose, we cruise!

    Go Wahine!

  295. Kelvin August 30, 2013 4:43 pm

    #203 WSB, I gotta say dittos and likewise to #213 UHfan who I believe is just trying to do a team building exercise instead of just being critical. You can be honest but say things in a “constructive” way that will not be taken in a negative way. If a person or player takes it from a negative viewpoint, the brain shuts down and just wants to argue back and not absorb the constructive criticism. Most of us have the same dream which is a winning team but may have different ideas on how to achieve it. So, if we look at ourselves as a team, the successful manager be the one who can manage all of us (who have different ideas) to work as “one” just like a football team. We need to stay positive.

  296. Derek August 30, 2013 4:47 pm

    Any road game by UH is dicey. Hawaii hasn’t won at UNLV since Colt was playing and that was the 2006 season. Rebel WR Philip Payne killed us twice up there.

  297. Kelvin August 30, 2013 4:49 pm

    #222-ST, I read (on OS blog) that Charles Tua’au did not make the team at Oregon State. I think it was academics.

  298. Kelvin August 30, 2013 4:50 pm

    #226-jeezy, I thought Malepeai looked good too.

  299. d1shima August 30, 2013 4:51 pm

    I positively believe that Pomai was “making story” when he said he nevah seen UHFan808 wearing shorts before…


  300. d1shima August 30, 2013 4:52 pm

    I think Samia took more reps than Malepeai. Seemed like it anyway. Mighty Mo had a good game.

  301. JayT August 30, 2013 4:59 pm

    Good game. Hawaii definitely left it all out there in that first half. The USC D looks like what we expected. Hated to lose both starting CB’s so early in the game. Love the work the young RB’s got with Silas Redd out, and the young OLB’s with Morgan Breslin out. Facing Hawaii definitely makes teams know what a battle is. Think Kiffin has to take the training wheels off for the QBs sooner than he wanted. Good luck on the season. Stop back by for Fresno State.

  302. Kelvin August 30, 2013 5:00 pm

    #310-boola, looks like your mom described you perfectly. lol.

  303. boolakanaka August 30, 2013 5:06 pm

    323..Kelvin, obviously moms is ele makule now, and everyone just loves her. But back in the day, she was not to be crossed, she would lay me out in the parking lot of the church,before mass, if necessary…..she was scary.

  304. d1shima August 30, 2013 5:09 pm

    I love this Dick’s Sporting Goods commercial

  305. d1shima August 30, 2013 5:11 pm

    Hate watching that…

  306. Old School Dave August 30, 2013 5:12 pm

    Rainbow Warrior D-line will be a strength this year. That, in turn, will free up the linebackers to roam and pursue. The secondary also looks promising with a year under their belts. Hats off to DC Thom Kaumeyer and the defensive coaches. They may have to carry the team until the offense comes around (and I believe they will).

    Also love the comments by the mainland sports commentators making excuses for USC along the lines of: “They (USC) obviously didn’t want to be in Hawaii and had their minds on other things.” BOGUS!!

  307. lava August 30, 2013 5:16 pm

    Chow gave us no chance to win. Very predictable, very boring, just like last year. I feel very sorry for everyone on the team and everyone reading this, except Norm. The sooner Norm goes the better.

  308. d1shima August 30, 2013 5:27 pm

    Someone missed the group hug…

  309. Redzone August 30, 2013 5:55 pm

    Wow Texas Tech beat SMU with a true freshman walkon quarterback. He started off slow but looked really good as the game went on.

  310. Buffoman August 30, 2013 6:01 pm

    A few years back a piazza delivery guy did an admirable job for us.

  311. Redzone August 30, 2013 6:19 pm

    But this guy did not have a spring camp.

  312. Shoko August 30, 2013 6:27 pm

    I’m more impressed with TT’s new head coach. Seems he has a talent of developing freshmen quarterbacks quickly. At age 34, he’s the second youngest FBS head coach in the country, second only to that guy in Toledo.

  313. PurpleMaple August 30, 2013 6:59 pm

    Now that football has started, this blog is fun to follow. Lots of chatter. Good fun. Thanks guys for all the opinions. Ahhhh……..I love Rainbow Warrior futbol….

  314. Pomai August 30, 2013 7:00 pm

    #18 – Eh I vevah seen da wahine in one pair of shorts before, dats my story en I stay stick to dat…….

  315. Derek August 30, 2013 7:06 pm

    Giant killers. Already Towson State beat Connecticut and today North Dakota State just beat Kansas State, in Manhattan, Kansas. K-State gave ND St. $360,000 in guarantee to play them. The ND St. coach’s salary is $206,000. Seems that money more than paid for the coach’s salary and then some. These upsets are very common in college football. USC was ready for the taking, but…………….

  316. Pomai August 30, 2013 7:07 pm

    UH vs Oregon

    06    –    45    HiFlyer

    10    –    49    jeezy33

    10    –    42    Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal

    13    –    45    PurpleMaple

    14    –    42    DaMenehune

    17    –    35    LizKauai

    22    –    21    BigWave96744

    23    –    21    mo808

    24    –    10    tommui

    24    –    00    Ipu Man

    27    –    14    Pomai

    30    –    27    wafan

    56    –    14    d1shima

  317. Pomai August 30, 2013 7:08 pm

    #344 was for #318 not #18……

  318. RainbowCliff August 30, 2013 7:28 pm

    Good evening Tsaiko Nation !

    Rainbow Warriors played their butts off last night as the DEFENSE was just superb ! Never have I been so PROUD after a USC game then this one because we COMPETED !

    Been out ALL day with my Hawaii gear on as I had local LA sport fans who watched the game personally came up and shook my hand that our TEAM really showed heart and DETERMINATION !

    Offense needs to get better and they will as Norm Chow our HEAD COACH wants to win BAD then all of us posting our pros and cons so let’s stay together with this TEAM as any other time we play USC, blow out city by halftime but this game and this UH team showed “GREAT HEART” with a lot of young talent as they were in the game and had a lead on USC in which 8 previous games against the Trojans that NEVER happened !

    I am just ONE day away from arriving to you GREAT folks of Tsaiko Nation. I will be leaving LAX this Sunday morning 9-1-13 at 8:45 am on United Airlines flight 1220 and arriving in Honolulu 10:45 am at Terminal M in which I will walk out and just smile for JOY as an old rainbow warrior has returned home to his OHANA !

    I will have along with me her 3rd time visiting Oahu, Mrs. RainbowCliff and FIRST time visitor 75 year old mother-in-law RainbowCliff who is just TICKLE pink for this auspicious occasion !

    We will be staying at the Pacific Beach Hotel during our 8 days in Paradise as I TRULY hope to see many of you as I can. My schedule is open with commitments for one day with my LWC and a day with Dr. Don Weir. I will be walking with love ones all through waikiki beach and Ala Moana as both places were my stomping grounds as International Market Place and Liberty Hills were both GREAT land marks as I remember them fondly during my playing days as a BOW from 1976-81.

    FINALLY, Tsaiko Nation Hawaii I will be bringing you GREAT folks gifts of appreciation as I have minature stuff animals, Sugar Bowl pins, souvenir game ticket and program. U of H pens, Rainbow luggage belt, Mens fragrances, inspirational reebok bands and an autograph book of the perfect season.

    Also, I will be HONORING Mr. Tom Mui with a brand new golf iron from Tiger Woods Foundation for his GREATNESS in saving Rainbow basketball back in my days as Tom was a BRILLANT litigator against the NCAA only allowing penalty’s of two year probation as NCAA wanted more even the death penalty because of the extra benefits to the 1975 basketball team with the famous “Honolulu Ford Commercial” that really hit the whole Island and caused such a stir locally and nationally.

    The golf iron is worth in value $900.00 as the amount of the club will NEVER pay back the time and pro bono hours that Mr. Mui represented many players accused of violations in which they could not afford legal representation as TOM stepped up and saved many of them not losing their eligibility but saved RAINBOW BASKETBALL in which we have it still today 38 years later !

    Simply The Best, Better Then All The Rest !

    Go Rainbows, Go Warriors, Go Hawaii !

    ONE more day and COUNTING !

  319. Ipu Man August 30, 2013 7:38 pm

    aloha Rainbow Cliff and family.

    btw, Liberty House is pau, now it is Macy’s. :>)

  320. 3-Prong August 30, 2013 8:06 pm

    YES!!!!! First set to Hawaii over #1(?) Texas!

  321. 3-Prong August 30, 2013 8:08 pm

    Oh no, already lost my voice from last night. Can’t yell to much.


  322. 3-Prong August 30, 2013 8:34 pm

    Texas showing why it’s #1. 1 set each. Now for the extended break following game 2 (which I never understood). Let’s Go Bows!!

  323. kev-1 August 30, 2013 8:57 pm

    Is there a Coach Chow show this year?

  324. RainbowCliff August 30, 2013 9:14 pm

    #354: Ipu Man: WOW, Liberty House pau as you really know I have been gone. Mahalo for the heads up as I really look forward meeting you during my 8 days staying in Hawaii. May God Bless and keep you ALWAYS !

  325. Moocher August 30, 2013 9:17 pm

    i have only 1 question….

    Was shroeder beat out by graham or was graham anointed the position from last year?

    did we really have a competition at QB? if so, how can you not put in shroeder at some point in the game?

    graham seen a lot where he can sit out a couple drives, stand next to chow, go over whats happening on the field to absolutely be on the same page, and let shroeder have some PT.

    just my opinion 🙂

  326. 3-Prong August 30, 2013 9:20 pm

    2 sets to 1, #11 Hawaii leading #1 Texas!!!!

    Let’s Go Bows!!!

  327. gobows August 30, 2013 9:22 pm

    warrior dave

    kaepernick is more accurate than you think. you will see.

  328. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal August 30, 2013 9:35 pm

    is there a live feed for the volleyball game?

  329. 3-Prong August 30, 2013 9:39 pm

    20-14 hawaii!!!!

  330. 3-Prong August 30, 2013 9:41 pm


  331. 3-Prong August 30, 2013 9:43 pm

    DOWN GOES #1!!!!!!!!

  332. 3-Prong August 30, 2013 9:43 pm

    Chicken skin!!!!!!!

  333. mo808 August 30, 2013 9:53 pm

    Great Win for Wahine!! Cheehooo!!!!

  334. boya_jr August 30, 2013 9:55 pm

    Free live stream for Volleyball viewing on bigwest website. Glad I tuned in : )

  335. Matt August 30, 2013 9:55 pm

    What a match!!! Congrats Wahine! It’s 1 am on the West coast and I am so glad I stayed up to watch the whole thing!

  336. UHfan808 August 30, 2013 10:02 pm

    Pomai –

    UH 34 : OSU 16

    In total, hoping to see this lopsidedness altho another couple safeties would be great, too: 777733 vs 7333

    Neat to see you’re still keeping up the picks – thank you!

  337. UHfan808 August 30, 2013 10:05 pm

    Cool! Congrats to the Wahine!

    As for last nite, congrats to the Warriors! I am proud of you for getting thru your frustrations and never giving up!

  338. Johnny Manziel is a War Criminal August 30, 2013 10:11 pm

    lol you guys saw the texas coach just walk off without shaking anybody’s hand? no class. eff that guy. go back to austin.

  339. tommui August 30, 2013 10:40 pm

    Great game WAHINE!

    Now the powers that be will rank Hawaii from no. 11 to no. 10 – if we are lucky!

  340. 3-Prong August 30, 2013 10:42 pm

    Translation for the above posts in Japanese……

    …..”Let’s Go Bows” hehe

  341. UHfan808 August 30, 2013 10:49 pm

    Was talking with one of the other Tsaikos – How “funny” that we have two constant and committed spammers on this blog!

    I am guessing these spammers are either 1) bored with life and or 2) are somehow overly jealous of our beloved blog host, ST.

    Really, there’s no half and half about it, the choices in life on thos blogs are these: either you’re here to contribute positively to the success of the Warrior team or you’re here for no good which is to contribute complaints and spread negativity.

    Tsai-meister works hard at what he does so I guess there’s much to be jealous of especially if you can’t figure out a way to reach your own success.

    Well, to the two spammers, at the very least, I congratulate you for your committment to be in a place where you don’t really want to be, to be in a place that gives you endless heartache and so much pain. I question whether this is where you really wanna hang out. This hell must feel like being confined to a prison where you’re stuck forevermore.

    But is it really worth your time and effort? How much is your life worth?

    Well, I would suggest you go find your own happiness rather than work so hard to inadvertently boost (yes, essentially this is what you are doing) someone else’s (ST’s) ratings.

    I’m sure you have better things to do with your valuable precious time than work to help someone else with their blog?

    Concentrate on the worth of yourself instead of the worth of others and you will find genuine true happiness and genuine true success. The skies the limit for those with good purposes!

    If you remain here attempting to wreak havock and create chaos, your doing these things is an indication of your progress in life and shows how you value your worth. I hope you aspire to greatness rather than be stuck any muck.

    Find the good in yourself and think only to do good things in life! I implore you to find a way to be good, honest people!

    Good luck! I sincerely wish you both much luck and happiness in life! 🙂

  342. UHfan808 August 30, 2013 11:00 pm


    Thank you for setting up our talk with Ben Jay!

    I appreciate your efforts in putting our group in touch with the man running the plan!

    That evening, I learned a lot about what the University of Hawaii needs in order to be successful.

    Disheartening news most times but I believe change can happen for the positive if we constantly work at it and don’t give up!

    Mahalo! Thank you again!

  343. gobows August 30, 2013 11:11 pm

    tommui, only if the wahine beat utep and san diego. i dont see texas moving from the top spot. losing to hawaii at the stanley is usually ignored by voters.

  344. markazulu August 31, 2013 12:02 am

    Heres something for people to remember

    This is how colts first game against USC went

    -pick 6

    – field goal

    – 3 and out

    – punt

    – 3 plays for -1 yards, end of half

    Give him some time I remember people saying in 2005 that Colt Brennan wasn’t anything special but changing their tone in toward the ending of 2005 and thru the midway point of 06 everyone “believed” in Colt

    This was 1 very poor game by Graham but if history has shown sometimes the best things are worth waiting for.

    Moniz was getting blown out against Fresno, Boise in 09 but in 2010 he would throw for over 5,000 yards with the help of (salas, Green, Pilares, Pollard, and Bradley)

  345. kruzen August 31, 2013 12:29 am

    Go bows!

    Congrats to WVB!


  346. Kevin August 31, 2013 1:42 am

    If there was any doubt who the REAL flagship program of this university IS… then those people are in denial.

    Sold out crowd.


    Perennially ranked in the Top 15/10 in the nation.

    Wake up and embrace reality.

  347. Maddog50 August 31, 2013 2:38 am

    Liked a lot of what I saw against USC……the defense made a lot of mistakes all correctable, the offense made a ton of mistakes…..all correctable. No finished product this week but if we can get an upgrade this week at OSU then just wait and see. Taylor Graham will prove to be the real deal…..I know the old addage about patience…I loved what I saw but boy was I screaming at the TV!!!!!! Look for a better effort on O at Beaverworld. I will be traveling to the game and meeting up with about 20 “mature Warriors” not kidding myself about a win but look for a big upgrade…I think the kids and coaches expect the same—-

  348. just saying August 31, 2013 5:13 am

    after one year to adjust to college and players,defensive coordinater kaumeyer is finally showing his coaching brilliance. as for chow he still doing the same thing he did last year but with better talent. seeing that he has an enexperienced quaterback and recievers he should just throw short yardage quick passes to get their confidense up, then slowly build up to their longer routes , all the opponents will defend us the same way they did last year untill he changes around his game plan.

  349. d1shima August 31, 2013 5:32 am

    Great Morning All!

    Congratulations Rainbow Wahine!

  350. d1shima August 31, 2013 5:34 am

    Hope the Warriors are able to make good use of their “extra Mondays” this game week.

    Bash da Beavers!


  351. wafan August 31, 2013 5:47 am

    Good morning!

  352. wafan August 31, 2013 5:48 am

    Huzzah, Wahine!


  353. Papololoco August 31, 2013 5:59 am

    If my memory is correct we had only one screen play the whole game and it worked. They knew USC was gonna be blitzing all game so why go away from the screen pass?

  354. Former UH Athlete August 31, 2013 6:03 am

    Take Ohio St and lay the points. They are going to murder Buffalo.

  355. Former UH Athlete August 31, 2013 6:08 am

    Although Buffalo stands no chance to win. I like the first series of play calls for Buffalo. A couple quick and easy out routes off a 3 step drop to get the QB in rhythm. Granted, OSU played really soft on the corners. Then a fly sweep off the pistol.

  356. Bsllpicker August 31, 2013 6:14 am

    Good morning.

    Mahalo Markazulu for that great example regarding Colt upon his entry into college football.

    Patience grasshoppa!

    Go Rainbow-Warriors, although they are playing against my university, OSU.

    However, they don’t resemble anything like the teams they used to have while I was attending in the mid 70’s.

  357. Former UH Athlete August 31, 2013 6:22 am

    OSU 8-0 over Buffalo after 1st drives. Miller throws a bomb for TD. Not a great throw but way worse defending.

    Hopefully this year will be better at the books than last year. UH made me money all year because I follow them so closely, but everything else was bad… Really bad.

  358. Shoko August 31, 2013 6:23 am

    Morning, Ben Jay. 😉

  359. Former UH Athlete August 31, 2013 6:32 am

    OSU 16-0 after two possessions.

    Easy money

  360. Slugger August 31, 2013 7:00 am

    Good morning, Gangees!!!

    Great going away lunch yesterday. Love you, Tsaikos!

    GO WARRIORS! You’ll do better at OSU.

  361. Former UH Athlete August 31, 2013 7:38 am

    Buffalo showing some life… Just enough for Urban to keep the starters into deep 3rd/4th quarter. . Spread still looking good.

  362. Ipu Man August 31, 2013 7:39 am

    Saturday—yea football! Sunday…no football?

  363. boolakanaka August 31, 2013 7:41 am

    Anyone watching this Kahlil Mack, just eat up Ohio’s State right tackle….this bully is 6-3, 250, and he has chased several times, a guy with 4.3 legit speed from behind. Kind of a freak…

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