Warriors lose; Higgins injured
BOUlDER, Colo. — The Warriors lost to Colorado, 21-12, and they might be without quarterback Jeremy Higgins. Preliminary diagnosis is Higgins suffered a fracture in his left (throwing) hand. It’s a similar injury suffered by offensive lineman Kody Afusia in the opener, only Higgins, obviously, is a quarterback.
The Warriors missed chances, particularly in three trips into the red zone.
Tyler Hadden scored all of UH’s points on four field goals.
The Warriors depart tonight to the West Coast, and return to Honolulu tomorrow morning.
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Good morning! Game day is here! It’s going to be beautiful football day here in Boulder.
Go Warriors!
I am attending the game in Boulder today. Any get together going on before the game today?
Gooooood Morning all!
It is a beautiful game day morning.
Kimpira!
Good Morning, Tsaikos!
Good Morning, Rainbow Warriors! Have a great game and a fantastic win!
ST and Tsaikos up in Boulder, did anyone try run in the thin air to experience what the boys will be going through on game day? Or, should I say, exert a little more than normal?
Good mornings Tsaikos,
I’m feeling good this morning. Had enough talk about Texas football. Now its time for some Warrior football.
I feel UH will get it 30-24.
Go Warriors!!!
Do This! Let’s Go Bows!
Good luck Bows! Anyone have a list of places showing the game today?
Revised Menu for Today:
[ x] Eggs Check
[ x] portugese sausage, Pork Sausage check
[ x] Ham check
[ x] Pancakes of course
[ x] Steak ( for steak and eggs) check
[ x] mushrooms /with onions sautéed check
[ x] fried potatoes mixed w/ onions/oregano
[ x] miso soup
[ x] tomato juice
[ x] Vodka
[x ] Beer (very cold)
[x ] Spam
[x ] lotsa ice
[x ] Coffee
[ x] Tea
[x ] Rice
Too many cooks
Added:
( x) Hamhocks, beans and cabbage, carrots, macaroni
(x ) Potato Macaroni salad someone bringing
(x ) Safeway Broiled chiken someone bringing
(x ) Poke someone bringing
(x ) Dont even ask about Kim chee
(x )Aspirin -me
Never ever again!
Leave it on the field.
I is pooped and not even 8:00 yet.
Aloha kakou,many suggestion for east coasts to watch the game-either stations or links??
Boola it is on the PAC 12 network 2:00 PM ur time.
Good morning! I’m up and ready to watch the game on the HD PAC 12 Network. ST I am hoping you have brought good luck by reminding us the Warriors did very well last season in high altitude at Wyoming. GO RAINBOW WARRIORS !!! Will the uniforms have a rainbow on it today?
Looking forward to the game this morning.
We’ll be tuned to channel 1232.
Good luck, Warriors!
I ordered a buffalo burger at Aloha Tower Marketplace years ago.
Very dry and tasteless.
Give me a beef burger any time.
Mo bettah.
Hubby thought that Boolakanaka was the Bulla we both know.
I will have to tell him they are not the same, as Boolakanaka lives on the East coast.
Lol.
OMGoodness!
I’m up! Lol
Yahooooo!!!
GO WARRIORS!!!
Mahalo nui Kawika!!
Prove the naysayers wrong Warriors, and onto yourselves, that you are better team than people give you credit for. I hope the fans and supporters that have a unwavering sunny disposition towards the players and coaches are rewarded with a victory today, where their pent up tears of joy are uncorked and overflowing. That would be nice.
Rice starting QB just hurt his non throwing shoulder.
DaveLetterMan:
Actually, a Colorado writer tripped on some stairs. Got cut up. Another Colorado guy got his leg cut up by a wire sticking out of a chair. The Hawaii reporters are moving slowly.
ST,
too bad about those Colorado guys getting hurt.
But, why am I laughing???
I’m sooo loving this Warrior Morning Crew that are posting here. Reminds me of the good ole days when camaraderie was once strong, positive and full of support. I’m gonna enjoy it for as long as I can. =) Good luck to our men who have put in tireless hours in hopes to represent us all well with pride. So proud of them.
I Mua Warriors!! Everyone have a safe, positive and enjoyable morning!!
Kawaika49- Your spread making me ono fo pound some grindz!! I getting flashbacks of my Big Island Kanak Attacks!!
Hi A-Joe,
long time no see.
Kawika,
your mushrooms and onions sautee sounds ono.
I’ll try making that some time soon.
Gigi!! Talk about original Tsaiko flames being rekindled!! Its such a pleasure to see you and Hubs tandem posting here once again!! I’m getting all giddy over nostalgia! Lol!!
Let’s Go Warriors!
The Original 17! Only a few of us remain… =)
ST,
Yes, don’t hurt yourself. We need you. But I, like Gigi, can’t help but laugh and hope they ok.
aloha and good morning 808. looking like another humid day
A-joe,
Yup, the good ole days!
What happened to your wife? She should join the fun.
Having a sausage mcmuffin and (free) small coffee. Unfortunately, have to follow the game on my phone. Gotta work, mail must be delivered.
missing rest of post
good luck fball warrior men, congrats to vball wahines playing like winnas
PAC12 Network pre-game on.
Good morning Tsaikos!
I’m looking forward to a good game and a great road win!
GO WARRIORS! GO BOWS!
Just heard Kaiser beat Kahuku. WOW!
Changed my avatar to support the Lee brothers in tonight’s match up with Kamehameha. Go Saints!
Marley Coffee.
It’s a mellow blend.
Wait a minute.
DaveLetterMan is a … postman?
The world is making sense.
ST,
yeah, my brain is no longer frozen.
So DaveLetterMan is a postman.
Who knew???
LOL. All these years. Got my name from Dave Lancaster and Alice Inoue on KFVE Bingo.
Kissed my boy and told him to take care of business today at the office.
GOOD MORNING, HAWAII!
GO BOWS!
GO WAHINE!
I remember the old Times Supermarket B-I-N-G-O.
B1?
Be one winnah!
B4?
Before you write it down, make sure you have the right number.
Sigh.
I really am old.
Warriors in white jersey, white pants. Green numbers. This should be easy to identify the players.
Did we mention Penitito Faalologo and Josh Long are on the trip?
No, Nick Nelson, though. Jalen Rogers, Jamal Mayo and Jerrell Jackson are all here.
Ah, memories. I was the one that brought in the mail in entries.
Almost game time. Go Rainbow Warriors!
Are those buffalo meatballs?
Do you need a log-in to watch the game on the pac12 site?
Nope, no rainbows on the uniforms.
GO ‘BOWS !!!!!
UH 28-CU 21
Go ‘Bows!
awful block by vela
jordan wynn needs to start coaching the damn qb’s, no excuse for consistently overthrowing open receivers.
vele
Action packed so far.
good start, interception, not too good, 1 for 3 pass 3 yds, then disaster, fumble lost.
Can’t watch game without log in to west coast links. Junk. 🙁
Brain dead running plays right up the middle again!
defense was very good, then back to not so good, 3 runs 3 yds, punt.
Our offense needs to do better than that the defense is gonna get tired quick.
Lakalaka “skipping and dancing” Radio BC says. 🙂
3-0 Hawaii! Nice drive!
Warrior defense playing stout!!! Go Warriors !!!
Field Goal is Hawaii’s Rainbow! 🙂
hope they got oxygen on the sideline
Running up the middle isn’t working!
defense excellent, very good run, predictable passing, sack, then use good judgement and got FG.
Wow. I just heard Kansas St. asked if Tyler wanted to transfer.
http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=280275&part=sports
Jeez, that should have been intercepted!
It’s funny in a sad way that we have this quarterback guru as HC and the weakest link on this team is the QB position.
Good lord…
Ahhhh #23 does it again. -_-
Finally, a flag.
and just like that, the buffalo scores. d able to control ground game, but air game is a suspect.
maggitt stays consistent…giving up big plays
Kemp havin’ a good game.
Got burned for a long one again.
Vanilla offense, running up the middle too much!!!!
Quick update
Woolsey 5-8 39 yards
7-3 Colorado at the end of the 1st, Hawaii driving. Already in FG range.
BOOM Lakalaka!
sefo liufau 5-6 87 yards (71 yard td pass)
FG good! Way to go ‘Bows! 7-6 Colorado.
imho, Coach Chow is not an offensive guru, but a coach who understands the passing game and was fortunate to be on the BYU staff during it’s glory days. If he was a guru, he would be in demand and many teams would imitate the offense. Like many good offensive coaches, passing or running, the defensive coaches will catch up and minimize your offense. Great passing coaches, Air Coreyell, Mouse Davis, Bill Walsh, etc. Great running coaches, Hank Stram, Gen Neyland, Vince Lombardi, Barry Switzer, Fisher DeBerry, etc. Then came the defense, Lombardi, Buddy Ryan, etc.
No red-zone TD.
FG good job guys but we need to get that into the endzone.
OMG take Dee Maggit out. He gets burned on ever long play for a TD.
Tyler Hadden is having a very good game.
Yikes, the buffalo did it again.
We get FG they get TDs story of Norm Chow as a Head Coach
UH 2nd down & goal on the 2 yd. line, they had been running the ball well on this drive, and they call a passing play…and end up losing 4 yds. & end up settling for a FG. Sheesh. Who’s calling the plays?
Except for the FG that hit the post in washington i’d say Tyler Hadden is having a great year.
Play calling this year has been pretty bad this year not sure who is truly calling the plays
Way too conservative
urban leads the team in penalties…some were bogus calls against osu.
Taylor Graham time, I’m sorry I can’t watch this guy anymore.
Hmm, Harding looks hurt from running into Muraoka.
I’m sorry…..but Woolsey is not a very good QB.
Harding is hurt.
Been a season ticket holder for over 20 years and have missed more games under Norm Chow then I had the previous 20 years. Just not a fun product to watch
Receiver was in stride on a sweep and Woosley throws behind and to his knees.
He looks alright, though.
still scratching my bald head, 2 incomplete pass and punt on 3rd down????? I assume if you are behind in football, you use the maximum number of downs, but maybe I am totally wrong and a good defensive play (punt) might get team in position to score. Still scratching my head.
96
they have 12 different plays that run up the middle. to you, me, and everyone else they look like the same play. but to the expert coaches, they are different.
and if you buy that crap, i get one remote hawaiian island for sale.
poor throw, dropped pass, holding call on 3 consecutive plays 🙁
the completion percentage for Woolsey is good the yards average is 2 yards
No defense….
counted wrong, but still scratching bald head cause da warrior’s defense is not getting a break from the offense. not time to give up, but maybe time to take major breakaway from game, so not get nuha.
WOW, Same old story !
No offensive attack and shady defense. 21-6 and playing catch up again.
This same old song is tiring !
Any guesses on who Chow puts in the second half at QB?
From what I see of Woosley is he’s too hesitant to pull the trigger. Lot’s of double pumps and then it doesn’t go well.
Woolsey is averaging 2.9 yards
Liufau is averaging 9.2 yards
now we know why maggitt keeps getting burnt, he doesn’t have his swagger
Lakalaka though is having a good game.
shoko
woolsey. garans. coaches don’t know jack.
Three and Out !
UH leads the NATION in 3 and out !
Im sorry but Woolsey gotta go. Put TG in!!!!!
Feel sorry for the D. Change QB before we fall behind more. Try Higgins. You can see the defense is getting gassed at this atlititude.
Passes are behind or overthrown!
Wow this offense is boring
Man this is sad we need to find a QB desperately!
C’mon! Let’s get a score before the half.
Try the Freshman QBs it can’t get much worse
Three and out once again !
What frustrates me more is Hawai’i have been getting great field positions during 3 games
Its always bad when the best player so far is the punter
Ok, I think Woosley has had enough time to show if he’s got it or not.
#WeNeedAChange
We might have the best punting game in the nation.
Scott Harding is my Hero! 😀
All completed passes go nowhere.
hawaii offense is offensive. consistently missing opportunities. what are the offensive coaches doing about it? not a damn thing, nothing changes. they suck.
I don’t wanna give up on Woolsey but nothing is happening we need a spark. Just put in Higgins or Graham.
Interesting stat Hawaii has had four 3 and outs.
Norm Chow will say ” Ikaika gives us the best chance to win” Or ” Ikaika is our guy” Im sorry but Woolsey is not a D1 QB DII or D III maybe but D1? no way!!!!!
lol…man.
Wow right there sums up Woolsey accuracy! Can’t even get the ball to land in the end zone. I just play maybe once a year and I can do that, pretty sad.
Good effen grief….his only job was to throw it SOMEWHERE ANYWHERE in the endzone….a 10 yard area and he overthrows it by 5 yards.
Seriously WTF?!?
hail mary pass…and he throws it out the end zone. can’t phuc it up more than that.
coaches need to start coaching the qb! they suck.
He overthrew the whole endzone!! Haha thats hilarious.
hawaii could have easily completed 15 yard hitch and get OB for FG try.. Bad coaching
QB change please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mercy. Score was 7-6 not too long ago.
Watching the Rice vs. Old Dirty B—–d game. Do we play Rice @ Rice? They got a nice TC Ching-ish field there. Warriors should have an easy time there, small crowd too.
see if the coach had any sense, he would have put in graham or higgins. faka dumb.
Thats a throw out of frustration or he has no idea whats going on anymore.
I’m going to break my laptop
Hate to say it but this offense makes the 2012 offense look legit.
There will be a change in QB after halftime.
I think Woolsey is done not just for this game, but as starter.
Chance for Higgins or Graham. Any guesses as to who it will be?
A Grease’s prediction (please refer to Mr. Pomai’s chart):
Hawaii: 10
‘Rado: 45
Coming to reality. Hmph. Might have to change my screen name to “Chicken Greastrodamous” if score comes true.
And Chow can tattoo a big “L” on his forehead and “I Love Ikaika this much” on his lips.
May it’s just Asians who are unable to effectively coach college football. Oh, who is a Grease kidding. It’s just Chow’s fault. “Well, I tell ya” “Well I tell ya.” Shaddap Chow. Just shut up.
UH games getting boring. Maybe I’m getting spoiled by watching so much exciting HS football. On thursday night I watched one RB run for 235 yds and 5 tds. The rb on the opposing team rand for 313 yds and 5 tds. I’m almost over watching this game. I love UH but at this point I’m more excited to see the potential shootout between Ore and WSU in Pullman tonight
I don’t blame Chow. He is who he is. I blame the people and the politics who hired him. Don’t blame the fans for not showing up to to watch this farce. This is all on you.
Haaahah, Inyoface, please do not do this!
Yeah? By that same token, you don’t blame the 9/11 hijackers, too? You don’t blame the late Osama “el DeBarge” bin Laden? The American Satan is to blame, right? I see that take. Yeah
Talent is never going to come to Hawaii as Chow had previously. YOU must recruit talent and have not only coaches make that their primary function but ALUMNI involvement who can spot talent and can make valuable recommendations to this egotistical and inept coaching staff. You need SKILL players at your skill positions and IF your best player is your PUNTER from Australia then it is truly going to be another long season. Watching what UH is today is so sad and really no excuse. There are so many of us out there that can HELP but being tuned out and having no respect being former athletes leaves you with what you have today a LOSING program. Now to remedy this problem you hear “drop UH football or demote to a Division II level”. Fans are frustrated and Aloha Stadium looks like a jig saw puzzle with so many empty seat pieces. Fingers are pointing every where while the same problems exist with a poor offensive team, Quarterback controversy and Leadership at all levels. Never thought I will ever see the day that we have sunk to this level of play in Rainbow Warrior Football. So DISAPPOINTING !
I think Hawai’i maybe was banking to much on Tui or Wittek coming over this season.
Norm Chow “that’s a good football team” he always says that. Coach just man up and say I suck as a head coach!!!!!
looks like Higgins getting 2nd half start
Looks like Woolsey is out and Higgins is in…..
Looks like Woolsey round 2.
It’s HIGGINS!
Hawai’i offense has been abysmal so far. It looks though Higgins is coming in.
Higgins baby!
Never mind.
guess i owe the coaches an apology…they made a switch at qb.
FG Good! 21-9 Colorado. Here we go!
RainbowCliff!!! GET RID OF THAT “RAINBOW” in your name!!!! Bad luck for this team 😛 .
Das some nice touch. Now we need some D to step up.
Go Bows!
Higgins 2-2 41 yards in his first drive.
Awww grease….da Rainbow got da mana!
Why hand off to a small back when going for 1.
just 4 more fg’s and its a tie game.
Another FG, we need TDs. Our running plays take too long to develop
Hawai’i kickoff team hasn’t looked that good either this year.
When our QB completes some passes and gets in rhythm Chow always calls a couple runs to take them out of that rhythm. Keep passing!
hadden must be getting a little winded
I think it’s got nada, 3-Prong. Heheh. Hey, look how well we did under “Warriors”, you know?
Lakalaka really is having a good game
Harold Moleni with a couple of drops
Sorry Chicken Grease we WON being Rainbow Warriors not against cup cake Northern Iowa Teams. Once a Bow, Always a BOW !
Rainbow got nothing to do what is happening with this team. Program has GREAT history of outstanding players playing as Rainbow Warriors. Don’t believe that Warrior only name crap as that is not the problem here. Talent and Preparation.
Love you Grease but you need a “lube and oil job” !
allg
when the defense is not able to stop the offense, the optimum thing to do is call different plays, especially ones that are not successful. and if you buy that crap, i have a mountain full of diamonds for sale.
Whats the 3rd down conversion stat? I’m scared to look.
Moleni has 2 crucial dropped passes right into his hands, next TE please!!!
Yep, 5.9 yards per carry.
Nice pick! 3:1 odds Hawaii kicks another FG though
nice block by poti. here comes another fg.
Absolutely pathetic!!
INT.
Jeez. Couldn’t make the TD. Warrior D supposed to be better that ‘roado’s.
21 ‘rado
12 Hawaii
ALLG, you called it. Field Goal. Vegas needs you !
Runs the ball all game except on the goaline retarded
that is the dumbest play, send the rb out in motion and leave the qb in the pocket.
Hahahahahahahhahahahaha
Maybe the team should be named the kicking warriors
More field goals………………..So let’s see, down 9 pts, so we have to kick three more field goals to get even. Red Zone offense really sucks.
Wynn is calling some sorry ass plays!
You would think we would use the height of Kemp & Barker.
I had to read that last sentence twice, ‘Cliff, heheheh. Mein Gott.
play action pass would be a better option than an empty back field. stoooooopid.
I’ll take Demo as Intern coach and fire Chow. Demo unit has been the only consistent one in Chows tenure
Luke Shawley looks like a beast.
Aaahhhhhhhhh, tried to get post # 200!!!!!
djmitcho: The kicking Warriors !
Man that’s funny and so very true !
Higgins 3-7 57 yards 7.1
Woolsey 9-20 56 yards 2.8
Wow. Can laugh via post. Talented. Yeah.
Great there goes Phillips
Stop running up the middle!!!!!!
Yeah Chicken Grease “Mein Gott” too. Funny !
What a stupid challenge.
another bone head coaching move. why did they challenge that play. it was freakin obvious. stoooooopid.
Hawai’i defense has done its part in this game. C’mon we need some offense.
Chow really wanted the ball back so he could run clock and kick a FG…what a joke
Tom, your right with the stupid challenge. Now no more and your charged with a time out. Problem with this team can it score a touch down but NO running into the punter. Mental STUPID mistake at a most critical time. Comes down to one thing COACHING !
Go Bows!
heres a shocker though that was Hawaiis first penalty of the game
Well, that is one way to move the chains.
Dropped 🙁
Dropped easy catch. Sigh
How do we have a so-called QB specialist at the helm, and yet don’t have a QB that has any kind of steady accuracy? This is horrible.
lots of bad passes. and quite a few dropped balls.
Lakalaka over 100 yards rushing
We won the third quarter 3-0. Seven points are due in the fourth !
Jeremy Higgins 3/13 57 4.4
Ikaika Woolsey 9/20 56 2.8
It’s been a much better half.
Really impressed with the Defense though.
@rainbowcliff 6-0 lol would’ve loved that Touchdown off the INT though
Defense is the only thing that keeping the Warriors in the game.
Our D and penalties on the opposite side have kept us in it.
Shoko – exactly. And these were Chow’s recruits…
horrible
Defense.
D doing a good job. Hope they don’t get gassed.
So… How many of the incompletions are because of drops? Remember when we started a fund to get the JUGS machine fixed? Is it broken again?
Still waiting for Warriors to put a series together for a TD. Now is the time. Go Warriors !!!
Markazulu, my bad as all I have been seeing is THREES !
Now we give up the fake punt and defense has to come through once again. DEFENSE comes through but now OFFENSE !
Bring in Taylor Graham !
D exerting more pressure and covering that wr better. Big difference from first half.
….Re-hire June Jones………..
….Hire Colt Brennan for quarterback coach/offensive coach…
This game is still winnable. UH D is playing well.
This team is going to struggle unless one of the QB’s gets a talent injection
Whew, saved Higgins butt.
Are Higgins’ numbers similar or worse than Woosley’s.
Jeremy Higgins INT 🙁
Higgins always starts off good then fizzles for some reason.
wow what a penalty
Another way to move the chains.
It’s not “gift” and a “tough one” if the guy ACTUALLY GRABS HIS FACEMASK.
Wow! That was huge! Usually the type of call that goes against us.
Morning, Gang!
Was trying to be quiet and just listen to the game. But I just gotta chime in. Now a facemask against the Buffs.
Dang it! We gotta get this offense in gear.
UH is getting real lucky with all the penalties.
Bring Taylor in, see what he can do. He deserves the chance.
Boy makes you appreciate Colt Brennan so much with the run-n-shoot. Pro Style offense nothing but a JOKE !
@wafan Higgins is 4-17 66 yards
It’s Taylor Graham time…
Azwarriror – totally agree. 4/17 is…not good. 23% completion rate.
The only way we get in the end zone is if the Defense does it.
Wes Side Warrior, Howz It my main MAN !
Come right on in as what is going on here is the “truth and nothing but the truth” !
Problem w pro style offense is u need pro style players! Bring back the spread!
Guess Higgins is not going to be the answer. Ice on his throwing hand.
Woosley back in after getting pulled? Feel bad for Taylor.
We desperately need a go-to play maker like that guy… dang it!
Mr. Spruce is KILLING us !
#22 is putting on a clinic and out classing all of Hawaii DB’S !
to be fair to our QB the WR/te had more than a couple drops.
Aloha, RC! And a warm aloha to your lovely ladies too!
OMG Dee Maggit is so scared to get burnt again he has to commit a P.I. take him out already.
Nelson Spruce 12 rec 168 yards 1 td longest 71 yarder
Watch that fake again…
D is gassed, but man, playing their hearts out.
WOOLSEY BACK IN!? OH NO
Thanks markazulu.
Need one now, Offense! Time’s running!
Gotta be consistent and methodical. Move them chains!
Our defense has played well enough to put us in a position to win the game but our offense has played horrible enough for us to lose it. Hurts to say that 🙁
If Woolsey is back in count this game a loss.
Yes indeed Wes’side as they are right here and see your words ! They tell me to tell you ALOHA !
Had a GREAT time with you and Tsaikos at the Luncheon. Always a pleasure !
Is Taylor Graham injured? Did he leave the team? Was he abducted by aliens?!?!?!
Gotta be cuz why the Effen Heck is Woolsey going back in???
Hawaii defense has forced Colorado to 4 punts and 1 int in the 2nd half.
Jeremy Higgins is hurt
I figured out how we will get Woolsey to make completions. Tell the receivers whatever their routes are, cut it down by 2 yards so the ball actually reaches them.
Sigh, another under thrown pass…
Lakalaka playing his heart out too – God bless him.
Graham must be in the doghouse.
Norm Chow on inside access. ” you know Robert no one feels sorry for us” ” thats a good football team” Ikaika gives us the best chance to win” blah blah blah Coach why wont you give TG a chance? Higgins gets hurt and you put Ikaika back in. Unreal !!!!!
Can’t get any worse you say?
Challenge Accepted.
Graham deserves a chance but Chow doesn’t agree.
We l
We lost
Shoko – gotta be. Got nothing to lose and yet still… no TG.
The defense deserves an A- for their play tonight except for that 71 yarder they have played phenomenal.
coaches suck, receivers don’t know how to get open. they play like robots, trying to follow a diagram.
Ikaika missed an “””open”””” Pedroza!!!!!! Ikaika then overthrew the receiver. Then another incompletion. Then sacked… Bring in Taylor Graham. He needs some game experience.
graham doesnt need game experience, the freshmen qb’s do.
TG – at least his throws don’t look like floating ducks.
Ikaika “double-pump” Woosley
Graham’s time is now or never.
Graham! Yes!
I guess it is not now.
Well…that happened.
Bah hum bug. Make Taylor the starter for the next game.
Oh well, too little too late as usual anyway.
just another loss
The rest of the season is going to be so much fun…..For Oregon.
UH has NO qb talent
chow should bench chow.
I’m no rocket scientist but thats what happens when you don’t recruit QBs. Especially a JC one that can help u right away
Again…I ask…how do we have a QB specialist as head coach in his 3rd year and no viable QB? I’m sure they’re nice boys, but c’mon… when the announcers are making fun of things like throwing motion, floaters, 20% accuracy, we have a serious problem that, given our coach’s resume, we should NOT have.
I still think Chow and company was banking to much on Wittek and Tuileta playing this year.
i was off by 1, i predicted hawaii would score 3 fg’s, they got 4.
Taylor Graham is put in a no win situation. Interception and the final viewing to this once again sad football game. Hawaii inability to score a lousy 7 points is just pathetic. 1 win and 3 losses. Scouting report on the Bows “let them throw the ball” !
The bright side is there is no way we can lose next week.
QB play
Higgins 4-17 66
Woolsey 10-24 64
Graham 3-5 25 1 INT
matto
you are truly gullible to believe there is a qb specialist at hawaii.
gobows, you truly don’t understand subtext
that was exactly my point
harding close to locking up the team mvp…again
…Bryant Moniz asst quarterback coach..
Special teams = A+
Defense = B+
Offense. = F
Wins this season = 2
Note; Coach Chow will coach next season.
I think it’s more spread option than pro. If we lose at Rice, Chow should be let go.
Take care everyone !
Enjoyed the dialogue. Got to go swim in my pool !
Enjoy your life and don’t let Chow get too you.
YOU deserve better !
A Hui Ho !
…Chow should’ve used more Ti leaf leis…..
Please I hope this is the year Chow is gone. I really do. Horribly coached team by Chow. He needs to go.
JJ said you can never have enough QB’S. Now we know why. Team only has 3 and they all …………
…the team and Chow need to be believe in the “haka” and start winning…bumby not going have football team for UH….that is sad.
Norm as your last sacrifice for the team, turn in your keys and clean out your desk. It’s not working. There is nothing to indicate it will start working. Be the bigger man and walk away.
Wow. Frustrating loss. Just not consistent at all on offense. Can’t sustain a single drive and finish it now. What is the cure? Sure, lots of dropsies again, but… lots of just poorly thrown passes too. Maybe we need to work on those quick 4-6 yard strikes before going for anything 10+ yards? Man! We need to do something. Bye week coming at a good time. We are just ineffective.
Hats off to Defense, despite giving up another huge score. They toughened up when needed to.
Hats off to Special Teams. They pretty much did what was needed.
Only 4 games. Still have hope, as long as we can turn it around now.
I mean… we supposedly had our toughest games already.
UH should dispense with the JUGS machine and just use a shotgun. If the receivers can catch the shot pellets they might be able to catch the footballs.
This whole bye week… just let the QB’s and WR’s/TE’s throw and (run and) catch all week. Get it in sync. Can game plan the following week. Oh wait… as poorly as they have been executing, they should be doing exactly this on THEIR time… like Colt did with the Dreads.
Great game by the special teams and defense again! Higgins should start next game! If it wasn’t for all those dropped balls on third down he maybe could get a rhythm going. I say get rid of the TE position and go 4 wide already. Moleni has proven he can’t catch. Hopefully next game we get our ass kicked and chow gets fired! Hate saying that, but it would be for the greater good!!
Please, no more 8:AM games.
Never ever again!
Forgot to tell the others let the kids sleep in at home ( major fubar)
No more 8 AM games period, Exclamation mark!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like the conditioning and the defensive effort.
Close is only good in horseshoes.
…nuff said
“Bear” Bryant stepped down from Alabama realizing he was getting out coached at 68 yrs old.
Nuff said.
Give Taylor g. 50% of the reps this week.
Beau Reilly 25%
Ewaliko 25%
Play the freshmen wr’s.
Wow!
Defense puts up another second half shout, they’ve only allowed 21 second half points all season, and they force 9 more punts, and they forced “Three and Outs” on 4 of Colorado’s 8 second half possessions.
Harding, another great performance on special teams, but the offense, wow, was woeful.
Absolutely horrible.
Here’s the really big question I think:
Does Ben Jay have the “Stones” to make a coaching change?
CG, you so very the top… Woosley shouldn’t be the one to say your words. It’s up to Chow and the coaches to evaluate the talent they have and make decisions. I can see giving Woosley every chance. But there’s got to be a point where you make decisions to move forward.
Hope ST deletes your comment. It’s a disgrace.
I say give TG his chance to start. We have two weeks to give him first reps and tweak the offense to suit him. JH has had his chance to take the QB job but hasn’t been able to. Ikaika is just not getting it done (to state the obvious). I feel for the kid but we gotta move on.
D and special teams were good. Team played hard and we easily could have won this game. With outstanding QB play we would be 4-0 right now. If this continues we will be 1-12 at the end. Actually thought the team, as a whole, looked better this week than they did last week although the offence was probably worse and made the game agonizing to watch. I think I need a bye week to recover?
Al, I totally agree with your points. Need an infusion of new bodies moving forward. Looks like we regressing.
331 CG…..I get the frustration. But if YOU are a man you will apologize to Ikaika for your childish rant.
You know what, Warrior Dave? What I’m saying is what some players need to consider sometimes. You think a Grease is afraid of deleted posts? I’m the only being honest with Woolsey and he seems to need that. So, yeah, delete the truth (is that how you live your life Dave?)
Gotta have more than “good mornings” and “I just landed in Denver”posts on a forum.
On a positive note the defense has held it together in the 2nd half this year. Washington/Colorado held to 0 points
Oregon state scored 7
UNI scored 14
thats not bad
Jeremy Higgins possibly lost for the season.
Last year Ben Jay said we need to stay the course. I hope he reevaluates his position.
1 out of 3 mediocre QB’S OUT. CHOW U PUT YOUSWLF IN A NO WIN SITUATION
Higgins may have a broken hand (throwing hand), per radio.
A Grease is the only one with ennough enough courage to say what youse wish you of first.
Courage is the one last virtue not respected in this world.
Tell me wouldn’t breathe a sig of relief vs. “Oh, no, don’t go” if Woolsey were to be replaced.
-30-
Grease, give it a rest. We have two weeks, till next game. Let’s see what we have before conference games begin. Defense getting stronger (corners/safeties need help.). Special teams improved over previous season. Now lets work on catching and run blocking.
Guud Afternoon Tsaikos…bootiful day.
Another hard fought game. This what it’ll be like if we were in the PAC 12. Optimistic after 3 games against PAC 12 teams. 3 games that could have been won.
Good bye week coming up to heal up and address possible changes to personnel. To lose three good receivers, your strongest running back, your db’s call for the reserves to step up.
Defense did a great job again. Feels like we were here in the same situation a few years ago…until the lights went on for the qb. Then things started to click and the offense was hard to stop.
IMUA WARRIORS!
345…..I think you confuse abuse with courage…..it takes very little courage to kick someone when they are down…..I would rather call it cowardice……anyone who is paying attention knows that Ikaika is not getting good the job done and a change is needed…..but why abuse the young man?
It’s not just the qb…
Wr’s are dropping balls, not getting open. The latter could be lack of talent or offensive plays are lacking or also lacking.
Although the line is improving there is still constant pressure on the qb.
First off, good game against a PAC-12 team—especially defense.
And special teams.
We need Ikaika to practice extra throws to his receivers till “they”
get it. Practice makes perfect. Problem solved. Thanks team and
coach Chow. No shame. No blame. Maybe call the prayer line
at 700 club… 🙂
UH should hire Mililani Coach Rod York. UH should also start recruiting that QB from Mililani.
What is courage when it hides begins a blogger’s name, never shows up in front of others, and would never say it to a person’s face.
CG, I see the passion to win but to “man up” is to also be able to accept that none of these student athletes are playing to lose or screw up. I haven’t played with anyone who wants to mess up.
The sun will come up and the WARRIORS will move on and be back on the field. Will you be able to move on?
Well said, Ipu Man!
Special teams and Defense – WOW. How many quarters have we help opponents scoreless? I like it! Conditioning shows!
Offense – I’m hopeful that PERFECT PRACTICE will make them perfect. I don’t think lots more repetition could hurt, but it could really help.
Great Afternoon All!
Eh, coulda been worse.
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…try wait,brb
Warriors did not look winded in the 2nd half.
#331- many of us share your frustration. But there are rules posted by the Star Advertiser. I hope the SA has the courage to enforce its own policy. It is not about deleting an offensive post. It is about banning a poster that cannot be civil.
We are 1-3 honestly thats what people had us at. I’m impressed with how we played especially with our defense against 3 Pac 12 teams.
So anyone else still think just scraping by an fcs team and punting 11 times was a win with nothing to worry about…Hawaii will continue to lose these winnable games to mediocre teams if our offense continues to not produce any type of points that’s 3 out of 4 games where we could not get anything started on offense…Hats off to the Defense and to Scott Harding and Tyler Hadden on special teams who again put us in positions to score and take momentum away from the opposing team only to have our offense do nothing with it…getting tired of hearing the same broken record for the past 3 seasons
I get the frustration and am frustrated myself. It’s probably because this team looks better than we thought it would be. Most of us predicted a 1-3 record at this point but the team has kept the spread down and the defense looks pretty good. Now is the time where we need to really pick it up.
Go Bows.
We need Ben Jay, to work on Logistics. Put together a package of equipment we need for every away game (Fans, Oxygen Bottles, Bandages, Tape,practice Jerseys and tools etc.) and pre-position it on the west coast. Done properly, I am sure Hawaiian, UPS, FED-EX would be accommodating. Which, would allow our ground personnel, to concentrate on special needs, they have for the unique environment they will be facing.
Chicken Grease – Get a life!!!
Chicken crap what would you know about being a man…… easy to hid behind a screen name an call out student athlete’s. You want to call him out well then use your real name Figel………
332,333 I agree.
Good practice makes perfect. Bad Practice, makes perfect Bad. You inspect to get what you expect. I would hope, in the week ahead; that we at lease work at catching, pitching and routes, and only that for the receiving and pitching corps.
Campbell has a pretty good quarterback too. I was impressed with both qbs in yesterday’s game.
Sorry to hear about QB2
If that means QB3 gets more practice reps then a call to the bullpen might be more of a switch-up if needed.
May be interesting to see.
Rest up Warriors.
The one thing I will not stand for is some jerk calling out a student-athlete, no matter what. You that do know nothing bout what these kids put in to put on a uniform and play the game.
I don’t want a pretty house. I want a solid foundation; I like what I am seeing…dedicate yourself to, Defense, Special teams, conditioning, then skill players; is the way to go.
Tough one, Sailor Blue.
OK! So; Ben Jay, we have 3 weeks b4 we play at home. When are we going to have a family friendly game? Where a no Booze, no swearing section, and reduce prices for that section are produced. Oh, and by the way; make sure get enough places for go shi- shi.
Apparently Norm Chow mentors the Florida Atlantic coach. Florida Atlantic is up 2 with under 2 minutes to go at Wyoming 11. They don’t kneel and QB fumbles on the 1st run. Wyoming drives 88 yards and kicks a FG to win…. How do certain coaches even get hired?
After this weekend brunch disaster on my part. Pease, Ben Jay; no more 8:00 AM games Hawaii time.
Not sure how much say Jay has in start times at away games.
Funny, everyone thought we will be 1-3 at this point. Well, here we are and people so upset. Yes it was a winnable game but it wasn’t the blow out people thought it would be. The boys played their hearts out and that’s all we can ask of them.
UH should start home games, though, at 7pm.
A little more comfortable for mauka fans, folks have time to get there after work, and the visitors will be playing at 10-11 or later at night (their time).
Since UH has to pay for their charter flights . . . what is the issue?
Kawika48@369 – totally agree with you.
Chicken Grease….
Cross the road. How dare you make a personal attack on a player. That’s not balls that’s stupidity
I would have liked to see Graham come in after Higgins went out — even before that. If there is a player on this team that hasn’t really been given a fair shot, its Graham.
He started last year and struggled mightily. Just as he started to show some improvement, he got hurt. He loses his job and has not gotten (earned) it back.
I would like to see what he has against Rice. Start him. Play him the entire game. If after that, Chow thinks Woolsey gives us the best chance to win in conference play, so be it.
I understand what Woolsey gives us with his athleticism, but the completion percentage just won’t cut it. And I do believe he can still develop as a passer for future seasons, but Hawaii is in a “win now” situation.
Year 3 under this head coach is the first year (as I recall) with an offensive coordinator, a QB coach, and a receiver coach. I think it is very unfair to blame players when the leadership has failed to provide a complete coaching staff.
Totally agree with Kawika48@369
I don’t see anything that can’t be fixed. The season isn’t even 1/4 over yet. Still get chance!
I think it is fair to discuss player performance. It happens everywhere, on every forum. BUT, there is a line, Chicken Grease. You know that. We all know that.
To me, it is not whether the player reads it or not. It is the fact that WE ALL KNOW that EVERY player on the team plays their hearts out. It just doesn’t always pan out the way we, or they, want.
This defense will be tough to play against in conference play. Period.
Woolsey will be okay, because he is a positive person. He can play better than he has the last couple of weeks.
AND its not all on him either. There are other names that we could be talking about. Unfortunately, the QB will take the brunt of it. No one is harder on a player after a tough game than the player himself.
And the future opponents, have yet to see, the Chow special trick play (no offense), Chinese Fire Drill.
Ronnie, yes still get chance. Still get conference play yet. I was just agreeing with Kawika about liking what we’re seeing so far. The foundation getting stronger. Go get’um @ Rice.
What I don’t understand is why we don’t have more read option plays to keep the defense off balance…it’s like we tried to mold our offense to fit our qb but are still calling plays out of the old playbook…
375
No following you. So if Norm Chow ends the season 3-10 as predicted by most we should not be upset?
I could definitely feel the altitude effect walking up those stairs haha. Defense did an excellent job in the 2nd half. I thought he should have given Graham a chance a lot earlier. He looked pretty good and composed in the pocket, minus the interception of course. But its tough for him to come in late in the 4th on their own 3/4 yardline. I also think Coach Beemer should get a lot of praise and recognition for the job he’s been doing with the team. They are definietly in shape and did not look like the altitude affected them.
Colorado did not look impressive at all. We got heckled a lot leaving the stadium but I guess they need to gloat all they can now because I don’t see them winning any games in the PAC12 season
#365,
I don’t think it’s bad practices. In fact, it seems that everyone that posts regarding practices say that the receivers make all of the catches. Maybe once the lights are on they not as confident. All I know is that the Juggs machine really helped Davonne, RGM and Salas. Not sure they are currently using it.
Anyone have any thoughts on the comparative strength of PAC12 defense and MWC defense? How does UW, OSU, UC defense compare to Nevada, Utah State or Fresno State? Does anyone agree that the strength of our opponent’s defense effected our offensive output?
To me, I am not surprised at our 1-3 record. What surprises and disappoints me is that we lost 2 winnable game against PA 12 schools and we had to hang on to beat a FCS team.
Lastly, we regressing and not improving offensively. My hats off to the ever improving defense and solid special teams play.
Old Diver, it’s still early in the season. The team has been playing better than most people thought they would. Everyone predicted 1-3. We’re 1-3 but could have been 4-0. The three losses were winnable games. Maybe it’s the coaches and the play calling. Maybe it’s the players not executing. I’m not an expert so I am not going to blame one or the other. All I know is that both the coaches and players are giving it all that the have, and that’s all I can ask of them. It’s just a game and it’s not worth getting riled up over something we can’t control. Yes I’m frustrated but I see good things on the field: defense & special teams. The offense sputters but are without iosefa and were down three receivers before the season started. Lakalaka made some nice runs today. That should help in the games to come.
Stats from today’s game: http://hawaiiwarriorworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/UH_Colorado_fb.pdf?341914
Pretty quiet in Death Valley
#381 — The season in 30 % over now, more than 1/4 .
#391 They, need the Jug machine’ and someone tapping them on the catch. That way when they catch in live game they expect it. That is good practice.
Dave Letterman, what year Kalaipohaku ; me 67.
did I miss anything?? The Defense was playing really well when I left and just looked at final and they still did real well. Not going say anything about the Offensive schemes or the Coaches because it is not too good. In fact, something is cooking that does not smell good.
Kawika, ’83
before players can use JUGS, the coaches have to believe in it and make sure it is being used. too bad, BHF2, is hung up, he could go investigate on whether it is being used, broken, or stored away.
Dellahoussaye.
Love those Bayou Bengal rosters. 😈
Meanwhile, Jeremy Tabuyo caught 2 TD passes this morning.
#401
We were the twin towers basketball (Nickolson/Dunham) era and the Marciel Football era.
Holy Moly, you coulda been my son. Lol.
Wow.
Pomai,
What they putting in the kickers’ legs in WV? 55 yards! 😯
BTW,
56 – 14 d1shima
(I no care if we only playing air!)
Amazing, with, their (the teams) challenges ( moving from dance studio, to dorms) they still, show up for class, treatment, physical conditioning, and more important show up to play. What’s not to like?
Oooooklahoma!
Tricky!
Ok pau, please (of those that agree), let Ben jay know we need; family friendly areas. If Colorado can have Family Day, why can’t we?
where the wind comes driftng down the plain.
d1…who dat?
Too high?
#404…??
NSF,
– LSU kicker
– the SLS WR that erryboddy said was mo slow than Ewaliko
– Pomai. You met him at TsaikoGates
– Oklahoma. People who left too soon.
NSF,
Oh, he playing for TAMU. Caught 30 and 50 yd TD’s vs SMU.
Was MUMU 😆
….cool.
I seen his name again on “the scroll”
Goodness!
Imagine this Perine kid for Oklahoma was playing in high school last fall!
Kawika,
If it makes you feel better, you the same age as my brother. I was a late child. My father is SLS ’42 and mom is McKinley ’42. My dad took me to the termite palace to watch games. Remember the marciel era.
Good grief! With the early start this morning I should be taking a nap now but no can with this WV-OK game.
Watta halfa football!
…and Miss St!
Defense played a good game, in particular Julian Gener, TJ, Luke Shawley, Moses, Beau, among others. D got the ball back and gave the offense numerous chances to score. Secondary, broke down a couple of times, but adjusted well in the second half. That CU lineman from Punahou was holding often. DC Kevin Clune has made a difference. The offense is another story.
Bye week.
Heal up Warriors!
The coaches gotta sort out who plays clutch in actual games versus who practices perfect.
I’m still optimistic.
Props, also to Steven Lakalaka. That’s one tough buggah.
Main thing is , we know what to work on. Effort is not one of them!
Time to review the offensive system. Does this team have the personnel to run a power offense out of a spread formation? I don’t think we have a QB on the roster that can succeed the way things are set up. One problem is speed, The way the passing game is set up our wide outs are in general slower than the CBs covering them, the slot is not faster than the safety cover and the TE is definitely not faster than the LB cover. I think the D has an upper hand in keeping the receivers in front of their third level with their second level clogging the passing lanes in the middle. The open areas are shallow areas to the sidelines and maybe two yards in front of the 2nd level D. The Qb can take a low percentage shot with a long throw when the wide outs are covered 1 v 1. Passing gets harder when they go with a TE, H back and Rb and two wides.
Chow has got to come up with a formation that puts more speed on the field. Maybe double slots with no TE, maybe have Pedroza run routes from either the TE or Hback positions. He’s got to find a way to get better matchups for the QB when it’s a passing situation. Maybe it’s not the QBs taking too long to read the D but they’re waiting too long for the receivers to get open.
C Grease. What happened to the gregarious, fun loving man about town you portray yourself to be? Are you reverting back to the habut guy that quit the blog when the blog host gave you a mild rebuke. Your farewell shot at the host was multiple – AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
posts that clogged the blog and went on for days. Thought you returned as a better man than the one who left.
Agree, that UH/Chow needs to wake up, adapt, improvise, innovate, in order to overcome these difficulties plaguing the offense. Find a way to get players like Keenan Ewaliko and Diocemy St. Juste on the field more would be a start. Take the load off of Lakalaka and help him make it through conference play.
Re No. 331. Wow, low blow Chicken Fat, grease whatever. Why don’t YOU go up to Woolsey and tell him that crap personally? You say you got courage. Come to practice on Monday we’ll introduce you to Ikaika hope you got good medical insurance.
I’ve already lost faith… If Ikaika Woolsey is the best of the Woolsey, Higgins and Graham… and Woolsey is below 50% in completion rate. Higgins seemed to be better than Woolsey but had tough times driving and scoring as well. And now he may be lost for the season. Graham came in and threw INT right away…
Receivers are not catching the ball all the time…
Running backs are banged up…
DBs are hot and cold… giving up big plays at times…
It’s going to be a long season!!
But gotta keep cheering!! GO RAINBOW WARRIORS!!
That was a tough game to watch. The only solution is an immediate coaching change. They do not have a college Div. I playbook. Also, someone remind Dee Maggit to stop watching pro d-backs on Sunday (by trying to play “bump and run” against players that are much faster). Opponents have caught on and will keep throwing long passes against him for TD’s.
How’s Prater or Beau Reilly looking in practice? We need a savior.
The mistake we are making is mixing strategy vs. Tactics. The strategy are working: Improve defense, supply and travel, fitness, Special teams. The tactics are the easiest things to solve.
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— WW
I lurned today, planning does not equal exocution. What did I learn:
Prior to 8 AM: adults only
Let the women take over and go away
And just shut up
OK, you Oahu, Guys; give me a reason to be there at a Oahu game. Or a package,
WARRIORS NEVER QUIT….
WW. I wish you didn’t delete someone’s post. There’s a lot of different personalities that post here. Once in a while someone crosses the line in a fit of frustration. I think there’s enough people here who will engage that person to point out the inappropriateness of what was posted. In my opinion the give and take that follows adds some interest to this blog. Deleting post often times take away the meaning of the responses to that post for people who did not see what everyone was objecting to.
Tough game. Heal up, Jeremy!
Two weeks from now, UH’s MWC record will still be 0-0. Let that sink in. I still believe this is going to be a very, very, good year!
Fire chow.
99c – good point.
lol a coherent offensive strategy and team identity is a part of “strategy.” Also, kawika49, for tactics being the easiest thing to fix, chow von appen has been falling pretty miserably at it for over 2 1/4 seasons now.
I think the CG will be no more. For a void of Terms of Service and personal attacks. So in plain terms CG wrote his way out of here.
As for the “O” mess we are in. My take on this is (no names here). Lets start with the two coaches, that are the youngest with very little experience in coaching. And the one that gave them the shot to coach. Are the ones to blame for this mess on “O”. And Chow might be writing his ticket out of here. So with all this going on. I hope things will improve, and we get some result’s soon. Hope we get some W and no more L. Hope you all have a good day and play nice. And No more attacks on players. They are not getting paid and need your help through this hard times.
#436 Cocobean – very true, people make comments sometimes in the heat of the moment. I think it is important to see the folks on this blog come to the defense of the players that are busting their a$$. I like to believe that most people are good at heart and will realize their mistake when the others point it out.
Being a head coach and instilling a winning attitude is even more difficult to overcome when one starts off losing from the get go. First year understandable. Second year blame it on the defense. Third year blame it on the offense based on the way it’s going. If no can have a winning season it is hard to see how a head coach can lead his troop to victory after 3 losing seasons. The responsibility is on the HC to create a winning attitude and create confidence and pride. What it takes to have a winning attitude, what it takes to have confidence, what it takes to do be successful in your position, what it takes to work as a team, what it takes at the end to have the belief that you will win and not lose. The team does not know how to win and that is due to the HC.
There may be some truth about instilling a “winning attitude”, but at the same time starting a season against three PAC12 teams may have more to do with the W-L statistic.
On a positive note, Kolten Wong went 3 for 3 with 1 HR, 2R, 2RBI & 1BB
Jerome Wiiliams won for the Phillies.
The coaching staff sucks! They all should be fired.
Close down da football program at UH and save da
school some money!
Also, J. Williams set a MLB record for beating the same team three times while pitching for three different teams.
SDSU playing competitive game with the Beavers in Corvallis (14-7 OSU 2nd Q). Seems like the Aztecs match up well in terms of speed and athleticism at the skilled positions. OSU may still be a little more physical, so far.
UH needs to use this bye week wisely – regroup, fix what is fixable, and heal up.
No wonder you ARE NOT AN EXPERT. You are confusing, strategy with tactics,
I get where C.Grease is coming from. He’s angry. I’m angry. We ALL should be angry. Yes, I like to think all of our kids are playing their hearts out 110% every game every play. I’d like to think coach chow and co. are doing ALL that is humanly possible to build a successful program. But as i watch our kids jog or walk onto/off of the field and hear chow’s interviews, I can’t help but feel as though Chow has taken this job as a retirement opportunity…thinking a meager number of wins and an average football team would suffice to keep him in Manoa long enough to finish his legacy and allow him a graceful retirement. As someone who’s been in the stands for a 41-10 soul-crusher, as well as two seasons going 23-4; WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
#450. we don’t; just let them heal up; and allow the coaches do what hey are paid for. If you are so concerned and point out what is wrong then show up for practice.
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436 – cocobean
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Some people overreact.
Some people where blinders.
Rolo for HC
Miano for HC
#441….I have to agree with the comments in your post.
June Jones played these same teams when they were referred to as Pac 10 teams and beat them.
His teams also played and beat Big 10 teams.
I was at Aloha Stadium when UH beat Alabama.
I think the Norm Chow experiment has run its course and should come to an end.
I like WW’s suggestion. Let’s talk realistic changes we would like to see.
Here are mine . . .
> Give TG the first team reps the next two weeks and then give him the start at Rice. Let him start the whole game and see if he wants to take back the job that he lost last year.
> More creative running plays. I understand the need to run when the passing game is off. But why do they continue to call the same draw running play in between the tackles? We don’t have a good enough line to create those holes. Let’s see more runs off tackle or around the edge. We have fast RB’s that we don’t utilize correctly. Why does St. Juste take it up the middle? Not what he’s built for.
> We NEED more speed at receiver. This might mean letting the young guys play.
btw . . . my #454 should read . . . “some people WEAR blinders.”
#454 And some people think and moderate; a month, from now what we are ranting about, may not be an issue, other than for those at UH.
The young men we see on the field are giving up their bodies; for tangential enjoyment of the few
No one knows what the future will bring.
After you climb a mountain (even if you don’t reach the peak) the hills ahead don’t look that bad.
The sun will come up tomorrow.
The people that loved you yesterday will love you tomorrow, and forgive the mistakes you made today.
Go Bows!
#460 . . . yes, no doubt. But it is football. And football has fans. Fans have opinions and want results. That’s why there are forums. BUT, we can still be nice. Being nice does not mean we need to always sing kumbaya.
WW. Regarding the ban on posting. Is it a two game, six game, season long or lifetime ban? It would be fair if let the offender know how long the punishment is.
After a cooling off period you should give the offender a chance for a mea culpa. The offender was generally “entertaining.”
I always felt give chow a chance….
However, being an off week me think the timing is now for BJ to pull Chow.
Might be the same type of spark needed that USC had when they let kiffin go.
TG needed to step up, Chow banked on him. Woolsley and Higgins moved ahead of TG and we are seeing the fallout. The situation of receivers that are hurt or injured sent us back to year one with Schroeder who had receivers that can’t separate or drop too many balls.
We are going backwards and the talent on D needs help from the O. Me thinks a new O or new O mindset needs to emerge. Only guy I can think of unfortunately is Rollo, maybe Miyano, or, Cal Lee?
If you had a choice to replace Chow who would it be?
Miano not miyano 😛
OK, I’ll venture here just for the hell of it. How about Jim Tressel ?- He must be bored out of his mind as president of Youngstown State. One thing UH MUST do is to increase the salary of the assistant coaches in order to upgrade the coaching staff or else you’ll get more recent GA types who lack experience (OJT). Boise State position coaches earn something in the area of $150,000.
To use an over used saw….expecting the QBs to be successful using the same formations and personnel groups is like entering a one legged man into a butt kicking contest or it’s like bringing a knife to gunfight. Tweak the schemes to give the QBs a better chance of succeeding.
So far, I really like the job that Kevin Clune has done for the UH defense. I believe that he has a two year contract at $160,000, which is low for a DC.
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Yes I like clune at defense coordinator. I do think chow struggling to pick the right qb. Which is odd because of all the positions he should know is the qb position. He should have start Shaun last season and should have started graham this year.
I think Clune’s salary is the going rate for first-time defensive coordinators at the FBS level. If the defense continues to improve and there is a coaching change, I don’t think he will have a hard time finding another coordinator position at the FBS level. If a new head coach is hired, it wouldn’t be a bad move to retain Clune as there would be a smoother transition on the defensive side of the ball and he still has one more year on his contract.
#350 (“RB”)…regarding Mililani QB McKenzie Milton…UH has not contacted him yet; that was the first question I asked his dad. CAL wants him bad
Has Taylor Graham been in the dog house?
Lots of new blog names today… anyone reside on the mainland? If so, please post your city & state here.
Will add you to Mainland & International Tsai-ko listing.
http://stevem.altervista.org/mainintpost.html
When a group of Tsai-kos are in the same city or general area, they often get together to meet. Then UH Road games have more options/activities when groups are nearby. Note the Northern Cal (Bay area) and Southern (Low-Cal) Tsai-ko groups and the UH-San Diego and UH-SJSU games this year. Maybe you can join in.
http://stevem.altervista.org/away14.html
Our Defense is playing better than anything I remember since 2007.
It’s almost like the first 12 or so plays are scripted by Jordan and the rest of the game is called by Chow…anyone else kinda notice that we come out firing and moving the ball then it just goes dead
By the way…I’m now on the “bandwagon” w/ those who say NC has to go. While I’m still debating whether JJ is the answer (and that’s even if he would be interested), one name that hasn’t been mentioned is Dan Morrison. If you ‘Bow fans recall he was JJ’s QB coach and mentored Colt Brennan. Along w/ “Rolo” he’d be another guy I’d look at especially if SMU cleans house after the season w/ their coaches. If we’re going to be 1-11 this year I’d at least like the team to be in contention every game and the offense entertaining. If we lose to Rice I predict the turnstile count for the Wyoming game will be under 25,000. Lose to Wyoming and a majority of the fans will give up on NC. I was planning on attending the San Jose State game in San Jose but that could change if we continue to be predictable in our offense and NC insists on running between the tackles.
d1… your #402 above… : “Dellahoussaye”…
I thought it was some kind of a game to see how many Tsaikos you can name with the given letters…
Kev-1 – I always liked Kumbaya, great campfire song when I was a kid. I still will give Chow and the coaches a chance. Although I hoped UH would win, it seemed unrealistic that we would beat these PAC12 teams. I think the team performed beyond expectations and consequently the disappointment was so much greater. I will hold judgement until I see how we do against the MWC teams.
We will lose to Rice. Garanz. They scored 45 pts today. Our qbs barely passed over 45 yds. Our offensive coaches have bad play calling. I just don’t get chow? Offensive genius but I don’t c it. Jordan wynn may be a smart up n coming coach but their must b a reason y more college programs dony hve 23 yr olds callling plays or making adjustments. Its called expetience. Chow doesnt no that. Iys like hiring kids right out college to b the mechanics on air force one. Never happen. They have experience people taking care of it. Our off is like the most basic off in all of college football. I watch a lot of college GMs n ours just looks so basic. Another thing is if chow thinks an off coordinator is not important or needed, he should just think about the other side of the ball. He hired a def coordinator n it absolutely shows a benefit. Stubborn thinking n dictatorship will not help out offense. Poor thing. Those players deserve better. They have hearts of champions but being led by the blind. Rice 45-10.
While Chow is here I will support him. When the next coach is here I will support that coach. I will support whomever is coach unless his name is Bolla or he acts like a coach named Bolla.
been reading a lot of post each day. some are thoughtful and educational but I find there are a lot of peeps who just post the same stuff each and every day. not much to contribute but they try to sound like experts. if only they would read the stuff they post everyday and they’ll find its…just rehash and boring.
over and out.
btw….every body was happy about jj, mack and chow….they going be happy if and when a new coach is brought in…den they going get all nuha if no go bowl game every year…great fans
Graham needs to be the quarter back, give him more reps. Sorry but Woolsey’s not ready.
Well, I am as tired of losing as most of you. But I do like the grit of this team. After the last two seasons of constantly losing (and playing poorly at times) I am surprised by the way they keep showing up and playing to the last whistle. Many would have quit a long time ago.
Is it aloha time for coach Chow? Not yet in my opinion. We lost the three PAC 12 games we were expected to lose. We played better than most expected. For me the poorest game we played was the NIU game that we won.
Now we transition into playing mid major peers. This is where the story will really be told. I still think we can have a good season. I would like to see Taylor Graham have his chance. What’s the worst that can happen. If we start TG in the first half of the Rice game and he cannot perform then we go back to Ikaika and know we will have a sub 50% pass completion rate. It will be very hard to win games unless that improves significantly. The D will have to win the games.
I don’t know enough about QB development to project how much Ikaika can be expected to improve with experience. At this stage his passing seems consistently inaccurate. How much of this has to do with losing some very important receivers before the season started I don’t know.
Lakalaka keeps getting better and has been a pleasant surprise and the turn around by our defense has been remarkable.
As tired as I am of losing I dislike the idea of firing the coach. It means starting all over. Hawaii is not an easy place to recruit to. Coach Chow has done a good job of keeping some of our best boys home and we seem to have a good recruiting system in place. But if we cannot win against our mid major peers at year three then I don’t know what choice there will be but to make a coaching change. I am still hoping this will not be needed.
Lots of frustration to go around. I still support the team and program. Not a great shock that they are current 1-3 with this schedule. I think that it will be interesting to see how this team matches up with the other MWC teams. That will be the true indicator. Saw that OSU pulled away and beat SDSU 28-7 – just too much muscle and talent. Had to feel for the SMU players today as they got killed today by Texas A & M, 58-6.
As the late Skippa Diaz said after a loss, “The will rise again tomorrow.”
Sorry, that quote from Skippa Diaz should be, “The sun will rise tomorrow.”
Tough game all around. Agree with 484…I still believe in this team and coaches. A lot of errant passes, drop passes/ my only question is if they were gonna try to get in the game via the passing, why not put in a passing quarterback which seems to me would be Taylor Graham. (No knock on Higgins)Maybe more of those 5-15yds routes might have higher percentage of completing simply by the velocity of the passes. Maybe TG have improve after a couple of yrs in the system. He has the arm and the height to look over the field. The passing game in the red zone was just anemic at best. I kept hoping they would run a bootleg but maybe they don’t have it in the playbook. The pros still run it and it still works….
Worldwide, I agree that we need to have certain standards. While keeping offending bloggers may make it interesting for a while, it will get boring and also keep some away (I noticed that we lost some regulars who may have been affected by these types of bloggers). We also need more female bloggers to keep the testosterone levels in check. lol. There is a balancing point and we also cannot be too strict.
Sometimes bloggers may post something offensive and leave the blog, how will he or she know if the offending post was deleted? Is a warning sent?
49 you are a brilliant mind in your own legend. Continue the great comments.
Not comment 49 go figah who this 49 is.
Probably even more frustrating because these losses really seem like they could have been winnable games. This team no doubt has the potential to make some noise in conference play…but the offense/QB situation needs to be fixed immediately. It’s going to be an interesting bye week.
I’d like to think that more than anyone else, the coaches know that our QBs need to make plays. Coach Chow mentioned “game manager” when Joey was healthy. With the “Franchise” out, the QBs (and receivers too) absolutely must become playmakers.
Sometimes I was wondering if the oc was watching the same game. I mean 3 runs in a row up the middle for no gain was hard to stomach. You have to adapt to the situation at hand and not just think we’re going to run over them when the defense already knows it’s a run.
Players continue to play their tails off. With this team, I think we can stop always talking about the altitude. Defense and special teams are exciting to watch. Offense needs to be able to get into a rhythm…for an entire game. Can’t wait till Joey gets back, along with all our other injured starters. We really need a QB to step up…kinda like how Sean Schroeder did last year.
RE: #492 & 493
Darren — Darren C. from Tsai-ko Blog Party 1? If so, please send me your current email address.
RE: #489
BigFan — there are actually quite a few female bloggers (Tsaikettes) posting again. But some are still avid… 🙂
If we’re not going to run, then the other option is the pass. Thinking that the going 40% completion rate had something to do with the play calling. If the passing game was humming…with say a 60% completion rate, then I’m pretty sure the OC would call more passing plays.
Steve M…it’s the same one. I’ve been receiving your emails.
Ding, ding, ding.
New post is up.
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