Dunnachie arrested on DUI accusation

Punter Alex Dunnachie was arrested this morning on suspicion of drunken driving.

He was arrested at 2:40 a.m., then released 2 hours later after posting a $500 bond.

Dunnachie is scheduled to appear in District Court on Aug. 3.

Dunnachie, a senior from Australia, is considered to be the Warriors’ top NFL prospect.

The arrest came 19 hours after a team meeting in which head coach Norm Chow told the players there would be serious consequences to anyone who gets into trouble.

In March, backup quarterback Cayman Shutter was arrested on a DUI accusation. He pleaded no contest, and was ordered to attend classes on driver’s education and drug awareness. He is suspended for the first four games of the 2012 season.

Backup linebacker Alema Tachibana was arrested on a DUI accusation on June 16. His court appearance is set for July 16.


  1. tommui July 7, 2012 10:43 am


    Don’t people ever learn?

  2. Kevin July 7, 2012 10:44 am

    Sweet merciful crap….

  3. tommui July 7, 2012 10:46 am

    And then there is Michelle

    For one brief shining moment …

  4. d1shima July 7, 2012 10:47 am

    When it rains, it pours.

  5. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2012 10:48 am

    Haven’t they heard of appointing a designated driver? My daughter always appoints one or spends the night at her friend’s home.

  6. RainboWarrior July 7, 2012 10:48 am

    Top Ten? Yes!

  7. Kevin July 7, 2012 10:50 am


    July 7th, 2012 at 10:47 am

    When it rains, it pours.

    ‘Always look on the bright side of life’…



  8. d1shima July 7, 2012 10:55 am

    I’ve heard of Drinking Teams with a football problem; hope this is not the case.

  9. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2012 11:00 am

    Kevin: cute video. The tune is catchy.

  10. Supastoke July 7, 2012 11:01 am

    Here we go again…again..and again

  11. FatJeff July 7, 2012 11:04 am

    Ugh, c’mon guys you can do better…man up!

  12. HawaiiMongoose July 7, 2012 11:05 am

    What in the world is wrong with these kids? How difficult is it to understand the concept DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE?!

  13. Old School Dave July 7, 2012 11:05 am

    Student athletes need to understand that their actions will ultimately reflect on your team, your school, your family, and most importantly, yourself.

    If certain student athletes have a substance abuse problem, they should be removed from the team and placed in a treatment program.

    Coaches can only spend so many hours with their players. In years past there were players like Maa Tanuvasa or Samson Satele who helped to help keep players in line.

  14. puhi July 7, 2012 11:06 am

    Another Warrior lets us down. Auฤ“!

  15. Wes'side Warrior July 7, 2012 11:09 am

    Awe… c’mon, now! Mannn…..

  16. BigWave96744 July 7, 2012 11:12 am

    Oh my, who is the backup punter because if Cayman got 4 games, Alex will have 4 or more. Hayden, Niiro?

  17. Wes'side Warrior July 7, 2012 11:12 am

    Monty Python always brightens da day. Too bad gotta use da fall-back, though. These kinds of things just should not be happening. But, what you gonna do?

  18. jm2375 July 7, 2012 11:13 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Another DUI arrest? Ummmm, hmmmm. Yikes.

    Trying to use up the food left in the make-die-dead fridge. Bad weekend for it though, got a UHS Alumni Assn dinner tonight and a grad party tomorrow afternoon.

  19. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2012 11:13 am

    Yahoo! Answers said the legal age to purchase alcohol in Australia begins at age 18.

  20. d1shima July 7, 2012 11:13 am


    Isn’t the new QB a capable Punter?

  21. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2012 11:14 am

    ST: how old is Dunnachie?

  22. d1shima July 7, 2012 11:14 am

    What is the legal age to DWI in Australia?

  23. WarriorNY July 7, 2012 11:19 am

    Do we even have a backup punter?

  24. d1shima July 7, 2012 11:22 am


    I bet there will be some folks trying it out at the next OTA!

  25. K-Bay July 7, 2012 11:23 am

    Time for the RIOT ACT?

    What’s WORSE is Who?

    These are (supposed to be) Leaders…

    There is TALK of Discipline…

    AND DISCIPLINE on daily All-The-Time basis…


    Needed to be SHUT OFF on the FIRST CASE…

  26. d1shima July 7, 2012 11:31 am

    To his credit Coach Chow hasn’t developed BBS yet about these incidents.

  27. SteveM July 7, 2012 11:35 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Too bad for Dunnachie.

    Student athletes live under a microscope. Can’t stop drinking, I suppose, but Murphy’s Law should be stressed more in daily life: “If anything can go wrong, it will.”

  28. Garret July 7, 2012 11:36 am

    This is really, really bad news! I thought after the first incident that the team would listen and that no other DUIs would occur. And then Shutter got his DUI and was suspended 4 games. After setting that example, I thought that it would be reasonable to expect that no more incidents.

    I would think that the punishment would need to be more than 4 games if this charge is not a mistake, since the punishment would need to be greater with each successive incident. UH will have to deal with the hole at punter for at least 4 games.

    Dunnachie also significantly hurt his pro prospects with this incident.

  29. Garret July 7, 2012 11:38 am

    One incident made UH look bad. This DUI in combination with the past ones makes UH look horrible, and the national media (and many in Hawaii) will view this as a problem that is out of control with the team.

  30. Garret July 7, 2012 11:38 am

    One incident made UH look bad. This DUI in combination with the past ones makes UH look horrible, and the national media (and many in Hawaii) will view this as a problem that is out of control with the team.

  31. lava July 7, 2012 11:40 am

    Wie needs to get a divorce … from her parents.

    Hopefully Chow’s problems with DUI end with this 3rd incident.

    Hope Gib is out recruiting.

  32. Duster July 7, 2012 11:44 am

    There is a saying that goes something like this: “Never underestimate human stupidity.” That seems to apply here.

    There are scores of young people who have to attend DUI classes on the 5th Floor of the American Savings Bank Tower. Maybe I’ll see him in the building. Sigh!

  33. MTx808 July 7, 2012 11:44 am

    1 set of 220’s conditioning punishment to the team for every DUI arrest made to date

  34. BigWave96744 July 7, 2012 11:44 am

    d1, actually Schroeder would be cool. Hey Jim Mcmahan’s all but sealed the victory for BYU over Hawaii.

  35. Old School Dave July 7, 2012 11:47 am

    Make the the entire team also carry a keg as they run those 220s.

  36. d1shima July 7, 2012 11:50 am


    Current events would suggest that McMahon had more in common with Dunnachie than Schroeder!


  37. mo808 July 7, 2012 11:52 am

    Another one bites the dust…:(

  38. mo808 July 7, 2012 11:53 am


  39. Na Koa Mike July 7, 2012 11:53 am

    This article was published in today’s Honolulu Star-Advertiser regarding the registration exempt status of Na Koa and other UH booster clubs.


  40. mctruck July 7, 2012 11:59 am

    Stuff like this, DUI….can make a grown man want to cry!!, bwaaahhhhhh!

  41. clyde July 7, 2012 12:06 pm

    Maybe Chow should arrange for someone from an organization such as MADD to speak to his team, and hammer home the danger of driving under the influence and how it could impact not just their lives but the lives of others. The players didn’t seem to have heard their coach’s message.

  42. puhi July 7, 2012 12:08 pm

    What’s the deal with these website commentors?

    We’re into UH football. Those guys are into websites?

    ‘ano ‘ฤ“.

  43. Garret July 7, 2012 12:09 pm

    Garret: it’s always good to hear your thoughts. What do you think of Boise State’s move to the Big East in light of the new NCAA playoff format and the new makeup of the the Big East? Will Boise earn sufficient TV and other revenue from the move to make it worthwhile for them financially even not considering where they will place their non-football sports?


    Sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner but I’ve just caught up with the blog. Yes, I believe that BSU will make enough money for it to be worth it to them. It looks like they will have just 1 or 2 trips back east each year and they have normally been doing 1 trip back east anyway for a cash game each year lately. I saw a reference to an Idaho Statesman article (I didn’t read the article, just what someone excerpted from it) that said that BSU’s travel will only increase by $160k/year for football…my guess is that the real number is closer to $250k, but still that is not a huge number.

    Boise State had a great incentive to delay their notice to the MWC. The MWC offered to give BSU a bigger share of the MWC’s TV money (basically giving them some of UH’s TV money and some from everybody else in the MWC), which gave them leverage with the Big East. The TV study I saw published showed that BSU meant a lot of money for the Big East in their next TV deal, much more than many other schools bring. ESPN said that the Big East agreed to pay some or all of the travel subsidy if BSU gets into the Big West…that was a great example of using leverage to get something tangible from a conference, and we don’t even know if they got other concessions also. My guess is that the BE agreed to invite BYU again, then try to get Air Force again if BYU says no, and possibly allow BSU to pick a school if both say no (just like how BSU picked SDSU last time after Air Force said not now).

    Didn’t the Star-Advertiser report that the WAC with BSU was getting $4.5 mil and the WAC without BSU got $1 mil? That means that ESPN told the WAC that BSU was worth 3.5 times more than what the combination of UH/Fresno/Nevada/USU/SJSU/NMSU/Idaho were worth.

    If the MWC could negotiated their TV contract now, they would get a lot more money, but the MWC’s contract is just so long, and the Big East took probably the 2 most valuable (to TV) schools from the MWC and the 2 most valuable (to TV) schools from CUSA–and CUSA has a better TV deal than the MWC if I remember correctly. So, it would be shocking if the BE didn’t get significantly more than the MWC get now…since the MWC is horribly underpaid already.

  44. Garret July 7, 2012 12:13 pm

    The DUI laws in Australia seem to be a LOT more strict than the laws in the U.S.

    In Australia, laws allow police officers to stop any driver and perform a random breath test without reason. Roadblocks can be set up – for example leading out of town centres on Friday and Saturday nights, or during football or other events – where every single driver will be breath-tested. This differs from UK and US laws, where police generally need a reason to suspect that the driver is intoxicated, before requesting a breath and/or sobriety test.

    Australian Capital Territory

    Zero for drivers and motorcyclists holding a learner, provisional, restricted or probationary licence and for drivers operating heavy vehicles over 15t GVM or driving a public vehicle for hire or reward (for example taxi and bus drivers).

    0.05% for all other drivers and motorcyclists.


  45. d1shima July 7, 2012 12:15 pm

    One might expect that from a Penal Colony

  46. BigWave96744 July 7, 2012 12:21 pm

    I smell a 100% ban on booze on the entire team.

  47. Shoko July 7, 2012 12:23 pm

    C-USA, indeed, has a better TV contract than the MWC and when BSU left, the existing TV contract with the WAC was reduced to one million for the remaining schools. Can’t imagine what the contract would look like now for the WAC.

    I thought I read somewhere that CUSA had a pending deal with FOX worth something like 45 million. Wonder if that was put on the backburner or fell through althogether.

    That DUI against Dunnachie is really going to hurt. Such a shame. I bet AussieMom once she hears is going to be very very dissapointed.

  48. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2012 12:23 pm

    After all, Mormons don’t drink alcohol, and coach Chow is a Mormon.

  49. Shoko July 7, 2012 12:26 pm

    What’s the BAC limit in Australia? Guess I’ll do some research on that…

  50. Shoko July 7, 2012 12:30 pm

    Figures, Garret already answered the question before I even asked.

  51. d1shima July 7, 2012 12:33 pm

    Mormons are not supposed to drink alcohol…..

  52. mo808 July 7, 2012 12:34 pm

    Human nature.

  53. Shoko July 7, 2012 12:37 pm

    Mormons are also not supposed to have pre-marital sex either. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  54. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2012 12:42 pm

    A DUI conviction can drive up your auto insurance premium.

  55. Ipu Man July 7, 2012 12:43 pm

    Oh, what a kick in the pants…

  56. Ipu Man July 7, 2012 12:45 pm

    what we should do is send down some cute wahines to USC to

    lure their team into the bars for some drinks…and then ask them

    to take them to their hotel rooms…and then have somebody call

    the cops while they drive blissfully away…

    Sneaky but doable…

  57. bowwar July 7, 2012 12:45 pm

    Dunnache surely has let the team down…I hope we have a back-up punter somewhere. It’s starting to look bleaker for the USC game.

  58. SteveM July 7, 2012 12:48 pm

    bowwar — no problem. If we’re lucky, we won’t have to punt… ๐Ÿ™„

  59. mo808 July 7, 2012 12:48 pm

    Yep, morale must be down now.

  60. bleedgreen July 7, 2012 12:50 pm

    King and Piikoi streets? Piikoi is one-way makai. King is one-way Diamond-head. Wonder where he was coming from? Strange place to get pulled over.

  61. HiFlyer July 7, 2012 12:50 pm

    Ipu Man

    No need lure them to the bar.

  62. d1shima July 7, 2012 12:52 pm

    ….not if you was tryna evade somboddy first!

  63. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2012 12:53 pm

    No, Piikoi goes MAUKA not makai.

  64. Ipu Man July 7, 2012 12:54 pm

    Let’s see, anyone remember those iron virginity belts?

    Maybe a couple of those and some re-engineered for the mouth…

  65. Steve Paschal July 7, 2012 12:55 pm

    Judas Priest!! And I’m laying out bucks for two season tickets with these guys going out and getting tanked? If Chow’s season sucks so we get to blame a bartender? I dunno man.

  66. bleedgreen July 7, 2012 12:57 pm

    Right, Mauka. Then he must have been coming from Ala Moana Shopping Center or Waikiki. Then it makes sense. Friday night. Out with friends. Few drinks. We all do that. I don’t see a problem. Just bad luck.

  67. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2012 12:58 pm

    When Patrick Riley was a head coach, he made a list of rules and taped it to the locker room wall. One rule was: Don’t drink alcohol.

    Maybe Chow should make such a list.

  68. Ipu Man July 7, 2012 12:59 pm

    Wonder if we had any walkons who can punt.

    Hey, any UH students out there who want to NOW make the team,

    start practicing…

  69. mo808 July 7, 2012 12:59 pm

    I see a problem if you choose to drink age or not call someone to come get you.

  70. Ipu Man July 7, 2012 1:02 pm

    I always drive the 25 mile speed limit on piikoi much to the anger

    of the cars behind me because I seen cops give a lot of tickets

    over the years on that street and the other one that goes Makai…

    Also it makes it safer for the keiki to cross the streets in that

    neighborhood to and from schools.

  71. Ipu Man July 7, 2012 1:05 pm

    Of course that does not make sense at 2-3am…

  72. Ipu Man July 7, 2012 1:07 pm

    Ronald Regan made the Notre Dame football team watching them practice

    and then kicking errant footballs back to them—booming them so long,

    the coach invited him on the team. I think the movie was, “Where Is The

    Rest of Me?”…

  73. Da Punchbowl Kid July 7, 2012 1:07 pm

    Alex Dunnachie was one of the reasons I thought we could pull out that huge upset win over USC. *tsigh*

  74. Ipu Man July 7, 2012 1:09 pm

    I wonder if a veteren amputee could design a spring lock mechanism…

    Oh well, wishful thinking…

  75. mo808 July 7, 2012 1:09 pm

    Fall camp can’t start soon enough!

  76. Ipu Man July 7, 2012 1:10 pm

    Hey, maybe San Francisco City College has a punter available…

  77. Ipu Man July 7, 2012 1:11 pm

    Good teams always have fire in the guts guys who warm up the benches and are

    ready and raring to go once a comrade goes down…

  78. Ipu Man July 7, 2012 1:12 pm

    nuff said…Go Warriors!

  79. mo808 July 7, 2012 1:13 pm

    Ipu Man, that’s the spirit!

  80. Da Punchbowl Kid July 7, 2012 1:16 pm

    Somebody will have to step up.

  81. Da Punchbowl Kid July 7, 2012 1:19 pm

    Da Punchbowl Kid:

    July 6th, 2012 at 1:17 pm





    Come one, come all for great food, great friends and lots of good times! Families are welcome.

    Please post here to let SteveM know if you’re attending, number in your party and what kine kaukau you goin’ bring. BYOB!

    Don’t miss it – goin’ be good fun just like the last one! Plenty of parking and a huge covered lanai area for chillin’ and grillin’!

    See you there!

  82. madeinhawaii July 7, 2012 1:21 pm

    Keep this up and they will have to cancel the season… jeeze. Will the only way to stem the tide of these DUIs be to kick the violator off of the team and take them off scholarship?

  83. Willie July 7, 2012 1:31 pm

    Interesting that Coach Kelley @ Notre Dame cleared QB for practice after felony arrest. There were a couple of counts, one for underage drinking he is 19 and the other for assulting the arresting officer. DUI is bad but I think kneeing a police officer while trying to run away is worst. But hey, them being NB might come with a different set of rules.

    Hopefully that saying of things coming in 3’s means that is the end of anymore DUI Warriors.

  84. Willie July 7, 2012 1:33 pm

    Sorry, that should be ND.

  85. kapakahi July 7, 2012 1:43 pm

    The fact is that more than a few of the returning players are feelin’ more stressed out than ever before…..with this new high intensity regime.

    ……which apparently is leading some to seek for stress relief, release and/or temporary escape through the form of alcohol consumption, etc.

    Just hoping that this is not a continuing trend!

  86. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2012 1:44 pm

    Wish these kids would figure out a way to drink and not get a DUI

    If only there were a way, if only there were a way…………………………(0_o)

  87. Slugger July 7, 2012 1:47 pm

    I had a fleeting worry about that when I heard AussieMom say something about Alex going to pick up his car at one of last season’s practices. Dang!

  88. Wes'side Warrior July 7, 2012 1:50 pm

    The drinking age is of no concern. It’s getting caught driving after drinking that’s the stupid part. There’s gotta be a friend somewhere that people can call, instead of taking a chance. Every one of them need to have a phone number to call, and KNOW that they HAVE TO call that number if they’ve had a drink and need a ride back home. No questions. Just call! Dang it!

  89. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2012 1:52 pm


    Is it because you were counting on Dunnachie to kick Barkley in the nuts before the game starts?

  90. mo808 July 7, 2012 1:53 pm

    The team needs intervention on the divine level. Let’s keep them in our prayers!

  91. AlaWai July 7, 2012 1:54 pm

    Warriors need to get a contract with The Cab. 422-2222 Leave the car at home. Maybe get Frank DeLima to speak to the team.

  92. d1shima July 7, 2012 1:54 pm


    Has their level of “stress” been quantified?

  93. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 7, 2012 1:54 pm


    Wait a minute. It can’t be that easy can it? Are you implying that by simply not driving, one could avoid the DUI and drink their cake too?

  94. d1shima July 7, 2012 1:55 pm

    What is included in “etc.”? ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

  95. Shoko July 7, 2012 2:06 pm

    Can’t be too stressed out. Didn’t Alex just get back from Australia late last month? After spending some time back home, one would think he would be all focused and ready to train hard!

  96. Pomai July 7, 2012 2:21 pm

    Well as my old pappy use to say “don’t do the crime unless you can do the time” only way to stop this is kicking(no pun intended) the offenders off the team. Too bad cause I thought Alex would be a big help this year.

  97. Shoko July 7, 2012 2:23 pm

    If you visit Alex’s Twitter, based on his most recent tweet you will notice a picture of where he might have been prior to his arrest.


    Okay, that was my last post regarding this incident. I’m moving forward and focusing on more important things like the game against the Trojans.

  98. Last Call July 7, 2012 2:26 pm

    Just think about how many of them just haven’t been caught yet.

  99. Derek July 7, 2012 2:32 pm

    The most disappointed person in Hawaii today is Norm Chow. The first rule of being a good teammate is being accountable for their own actions. As they say, nothing good happens after midnight and 5 am.

  100. kawika49 July 7, 2012 2:43 pm


    I’ll be there, need directions.

  101. RedZone July 7, 2012 2:46 pm

    Aiyeeeeeeeee…….what da………..

    Oh well. Hope coach Chow can find someone who can step in and punt and if he does well should be the punter for the rest of the season.

  102. al July 7, 2012 2:46 pm

    4 gm suspension.

  103. Kaimiloa July 7, 2012 2:46 pm

    I would call a team meeting and tell the players that anyone else arrested for DUI will be dismissed from the team. I drank like a fish at UH and did a lot of stupid things, but I never drove drunk. I didn’t have a car, either. Hmmm

  104. al July 7, 2012 2:47 pm

    hadden or harding will punt.

  105. Capitolist/WassupDoc July 7, 2012 2:51 pm

    Legislative Update:

    HB 2398 SD1 is still on the Governor’s desk although it is not clear if he plans to sign it or let it pass into law without his signature. That decision has to be made by the end of the working day on Tuesday, July 10.

    It is NOT on his proposed veto list.

    The original Aloha Stadium legislation was in a separate Senate bill, but it was not heard in the House by the Finance Committee after crossover. Senator Glenn Wakai, its author, inserted it into another House land use bill – HB 2398 HD2 – when it was being heard in the Senate after crossover.

    A number of individuals who worked on the Aloha Stadium legislation during the past Session requested a special signing ceremoney; however, given the large number of NO votes in the House of Representatives in the Senate’s version of the bill, I think that the Governor’s office decided to downplay the bill’s signing.

    Will let folks here know when it is signed and the Act Number.


    Report Title: PLDC; Stadium Facilities Special Fund


    Transfers development rights of certain lands under the division of boating and ocean recreation and land division to the public land development corporation. Exempts certain lands from the definition of public land under chapter 171, HRS, but requires legislative approval for the sale or gift of those lands. Creates the stadium facilities special fund into which shall be deposited a portion of the proceeds generated by the PLDC on Aloha stadium lands and facilities. Allows the PLDC to contract with state and county agencies for lease management services of PLDC-controlled land. Clarifies the definition of development rights. (SD1)


    SECTION 4. Chapter 171C, Hawaii Revised Statutes, is amended by adding a new section to be appropriately designated and to read as follows:

    “ยง171C- Stadium facilities special fund.

    (a) There is established a stadium facilities special fund into which shall be deposited all proceeds from leases, permits, interest income generated from Aloha Stadium lands and facilities, and other revenue generated from the non-permanent disposition of Aloha Stadium lands and facilities under this chapter, less the following:

    (1) The principal and interest on bonds issued pursuant to this chapter for projects on Aloha Stadium lands or utilizing Aloha Stadium facilities;

    (2) The cost of administering, operating, and maintaining projects on Aloha Stadium lands or utilizing Aloha Stadium facilities, not to exceed fifteen per cent of the sums collected, net of principal and interest payments on bonds; and

    (3) Other sums that may be necessary for the issuance of bonds under this chapter.

    (b) The stadium facilities special fund shall be administered by the stadium authority. Except as otherwise provided, all moneys in the stadium facilities special fund shall be used exclusively for stadium purposes.”

    Passed Third Reading, as amended (SD 1). Ayes, 22; Aye(s) with reservations: Senator(s) Taniguchi . Noes, 3 (Senator(s) Gabbard, Ihara, Slom). Excused, 0 (none). Transmitted to House.

    Passed Final Reading as amended in SD 1 with Representative(s) Coffman, Johanson, McKelvey voting aye with reservations; Representative(s) Awana, Belatti, Ching, Choy, Fontaine, Giugni, Hanohano, Jordan, Keith-Agaran, C. Lee, Luke, Marumoto, Morikawa, Nishimoto, Riviere, Saiki, Souki, Takai, Takumi, Thielen, Ward, Wooley voting no (22) and none excused (0).

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  106. kawika49 July 7, 2012 2:54 pm

    If they worked on their conditioning during the day; they would not have enough energy to club, at night. Maybe, just maybe; not enough effort.

  107. INNOCENT OBSERVER July 7, 2012 2:55 pm

    wow, you would think that after the first incident, the coaching staff would talk to the players about such behavior. if they did, it sure did not sink in. is playing football that stressful that players have to resort to drinking? What about drugs or MJ, are players somehow indulging in these things? is this the first time or were other incidents kept quiet? let’s see is coach chow follow one standard policy or a double standard policy, where the better players are dealt with more leniency. many football programs have a double standard policy.

  108. kapakahi July 7, 2012 2:57 pm

    Just speculating that these DUIs might be stress-related.

    However while not quantified, it’s definitely a qualified fact…..without any speculation…..that comparatively….more players are feelin’ greater stress…..than they have ever felt before within the program.

  109. SteveM July 7, 2012 3:03 pm


    July 7th, 2012 at 2:43 pm


    I’ll be there, need directions.

    kawika49 — see DPK’s post #91. Alternately, click on my name above and scroll down to the Event Calendar. The addy and a google map is linked.

  110. moelepo619 July 7, 2012 3:07 pm

    Well I think Chow may have set expectations for these players too high. I mean from the outset when he hinted at expectations for his players to Spring Training with the higher temp and intensity. This looks like we have a few who cannot meet the expectations set. Maybe that’s the purpose of setting expectations, tempo and intensity high…to weed out the ones who when the pressure gets turned on will let the team down before they have a chance to do it on the field?

  111. al July 7, 2012 3:16 pm

    there is discipline in the program that was lacking the past few years.

  112. Kevin July 7, 2012 3:18 pm

    Interesting… Dunnachie is not a local boy so ummm… what happened to the past sayings on this blog by some about how not to judge until proven guilty?????????


    Just making an observation.

  113. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2012 3:18 pm

    moelepo: very good point. We’ll soon know who are men and who are boys. Who can take the stress and who cannot. Hopefully, by the time the USC game comes around, the team will be a well-disciplined, cohesive unit of real men.

  114. Old School Dave July 7, 2012 3:28 pm

    I think a common observation by the holdover players is that the level of standards, performance, and behavior has been raised. You have a group of some 100 players who need to buy into this. For the most part, they have. Often times when there’s a coaching change, you’ll have a few players who won’t. The con an old phrase: “those who remain, will be champions.”

  115. moelepo619 July 7, 2012 3:31 pm

    Kevin when someone gets pulled over for possible DUI, it’s really hard to NOT expect that they were in fact DRUNK. Especially after failing sobriety testing and smelling like booze. But no matter, even if by some odd chance this guy was not drunk…he must have been an extremely bad driver and exceptionally stupid. Enough so that the officer would think that he MUST BE DRUNK because no person could be that dumb.

  116. moelepo619 July 7, 2012 3:48 pm

    But I think that what you’re seeing as a “double standard” is just people getting sick and tired of these displays of stupidity. Not necessarily of people cutting the other idiots some slack because they’re “local” and being not so forgiving of this idiot because he’s not. People are just getting sick and tired of this crap. Mix that with the recurring stories of people being killed by yet another idiot drunk driver. These idiots don’t just shame their team, they pose a danger to all of us. I for one believe that once they are found guilty or plea “no contest” their scholarship should be pulled (to be awarded to someone more deserving) and they should be banned from the team.

  117. Wes'side Warrior July 7, 2012 3:50 pm

    All this talk about stress pushing them to drink is kinda off the mark, to me. There’s always been drinking… always been partying. To think otherwise is just plain naive. The issue is that these kids are being caught drinking while supposedly drunk. That is where the focus needs to be. They need to know that if they go out partying, they can get back safely, legally… and not have to resort to taking a chance with anyone’s lives.

  118. Last Call July 7, 2012 3:53 pm

    Zero Tolerance folks.That’s the kind of policy I would have as a coach.Go play somewhere else for your second chance.

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  121. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2012 3:59 pm

    Let’s just say Chow is not very happy.

    The arrest came 19 hours after he told them to not get into legal trouble or embarrass the program.

  122. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2012 4:04 pm

    I think 51-year-old men drink to alleviate stress.

    I think 21-year-old men drink to have a good time.

    It’s OK to drink and have fun, just do not drink and drive. Again, it’s fortunate that nobody was hurt.

  123. moelepo619 July 7, 2012 4:07 pm

    Wes’side – nobody said that drinking didn’t occur. Just that…really?? 3 in a little over 3 months?? Not very smart. We’re just giving them the benefit of the doubt that they are in fact capable of better, more intelligent behavior and chalking it up the higher expectations that they’re not accustomed to having imposed on them. I suspect that since NC is used to coaching at a higher level they’ve already been pushed harder than they’re used to and they’re evidently not up to it. They are also not followers of any spiritual doctrine so they’re not used to being held accountable for their behavior either.

  124. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2012 4:07 pm

    so do you all think Dunnachie should be kicked off the team and his scholarship revoked?

  125. Moocher July 7, 2012 4:20 pm

    One has got to wonder with the discipline and respect and demands coach Chow brings…how is this happening? Why is there not something in the back of each player’s minds that is powerful enough to let them do the right thing?

    Up and down the Internet you’ll notice two things…..

    Coach Chow = respected

    Coach Mac = well liked

    Which wins out… do you do more for someone you respect or someone you like?

    Until the team suits up, expect more “events” to follow. They are in limbo and until the season starts with a new coach-perhaps the buy-in to all he says is just not there yet?

    I’m all for second chances…but more and more this is looking like Shutter should’ve been kicked off the team to send a message. For me, it looks like it’s the team that needs a second chance…not individuals. Sorry, but that’s my opinion. And from the looks of it, one of these guys after Shutter will be made an example of and be axed from the team after the dust settles.

  126. Wes'side Warrior July 7, 2012 4:20 pm

    My post at 3:50pm above, should read, “The issue is that these kids are being caught driving while supposedly drunk.”

  127. Ipu Man July 7, 2012 4:23 pm

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  128. Old School Dave July 7, 2012 4:24 pm

    I think if Dunnachie has a drinking problem, he should get treatment and forget about playing football. No BYU honor code here, not that it discouraged Cougar players from partaking in some brew back in the day.

  129. Gunpla July 7, 2012 4:26 pm

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  130. moelepo619 July 7, 2012 4:26 pm

    No but it made it easier to get rid of dumbbells

  131. Kevin July 7, 2012 4:40 pm

    Dunnachie – drinking problem???

    Yikes! Really? Did anyone previously suggest Shutter or Tachibana as having drinking problems? Kind of a serious suspecion to craft on someone.

    Then again, as some said in the past, but aren’t saying NOW for some reason, Dunnachie is someone’s son so reserve judgement until proven guilty right? Or is that cautious advisory reserved for a select few?

  132. Hank July 7, 2012 4:44 pm

    Auwe!!! Really?

  133. Manoa Mist July 7, 2012 4:48 pm

    Agree with Mr. Tsai. Boys, if you like drink – and I’m still not sure why the boys all ain’t training for the season – get someone else to drive. It’s just that simple really. I love Chow, but perhaps if he had kicked off the other two fellas it might have made and impact.

    Can’t kick off the punter, he’s good, we need him.

    Disappointing, to say the least. Looks like USC is gonna wipe the field with us.

  134. kikaida name changee July 7, 2012 4:50 pm

    i’ve changed my name so i can talk freely to you.

    experience in DUI courts this year from 1/1/12 until now. six out of six good results in the ADLRO. cases dismissed in ADLRO. the cases dismissed in ADLRO. some right away. some took awhile, were the result of due process errors and paperwork not meeting statutory requirements. and in the district courts, 5 out of the same 6 cases never resulted in DUI convictions. don’t ask how. just know those are the facts.

    Dunnachie has got to work on his case right away. In both courts. My first question is, is he over 21? my second question is, who is the offficer? ask for the paperwork from ADLRO, its his right.

    nbut the general concern stated by Tsaikos remains my concern too. which is, what is he (Dunnachie) thinking? sorry Alex, but if i have to choose, I choose team over you.

  135. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2012 4:51 pm

    Because this is the offseason, Chow is waiting for Tachibana to complete his court appearance. Due process, and all.

    It’s different for Dunnachie because his court appearance is on the third day of training camp. We’ll see what happens.

  136. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2012 4:52 pm

    Kikaida, by the way, is a lawyer.

  137. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2012 4:53 pm

    Dunnachie is 21.

  138. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2012 4:56 pm

    After Shutter was arrested, Chow’s first reaction was to kick him off the team.

    That’s because the arrest came a few days after Chow told the players not to do anything to embarrass the team.

    But then Chow decided to take deep breaths โ€” Deep breaths โ€” and after he calmed down, he decided to suspend him from team activities until the case was heard. That actually proved to be a stern punishment because he knocked out Shutter from the QB competition.

  139. Wes'side Warrior July 7, 2012 4:57 pm

    I love Kikaida! Even dressed up as him for an elementary school skit. Yes, also did Rainbow Man for a school skit too. Was fun acting like I was beating up the bad guyz… only problem was that I actually hit one of da guyz who got too close. Oops. Sorry!

  140. Wes'side Warrior July 7, 2012 4:59 pm

    Okay, tired and going crash now. Hope to read mo’ happy stuffz tomorrow. Night, all!

  141. bigislandkurt July 7, 2012 5:01 pm

    Of all three DUI’s, this one will hurt the most. In this upcoming season of change, our punter is as important as ever. Can anyone name the backup punter? I rest my case.

    19 hours after chow spoke with them? Talk about blatant disrespect.

    A-Joe might need to come out of retirement. Lace up them punting shoes brother.



  142. bigislandkurt July 7, 2012 5:04 pm

    Tachibana and Shutter are back-ups. Dunachie is a CRUCIAL piece of the starting unit.

    No can.

    Forget all the “young men will do dumb things” responses. This bradduh just fudged up. BIG TIME. And this one will hurt.


  143. Last Call July 7, 2012 5:05 pm

    Some of these athletes just don’t understand that being an athlete in a demands a certain level of responsibility and behavior.

    Use your head for something other than a hat rack.

  144. mo808 July 7, 2012 5:06 pm

    WW, too funny! Yup, we could sure use some good news!

  145. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2012 5:09 pm

    Saw Kealoha Pilares’ mom today.

    She still reads us daily.

    Pilares and Salas are regular readers, too.

    So say nice things about them.

  146. mo808 July 7, 2012 5:10 pm

    Salas & Pilares you da bestest! Miss you guys in Warrior uniforms!

  147. PolyMom July 7, 2012 5:17 pm

    First let’s feel bad for Aussie Mom.

    This DUI arrest of young people is everywhere. Why can’t they walk to the bars by UH? Why do they HAVE to drive? And in Hawaii I saw a commercial over the holidays that you can get a free cab if you are not sober. Young people today and this is everywhere drink until they are drunk. It is FUN for them. This past Wednesday we had over 100,000 folks on the beach in Hermosa. On 2nd street they had 2000 drunk high school kids. The police had to come in on horses and ATV’s to break things up. Our jail only holds 24 prisoners. All of the jail cells were full. They had to handcuff folks are put them in busses that they transfer prisoners in. Drinking is now just so much fun they drink until they black out. Also blame the bars for over serving. The community should be up in arms. Demand that these establishments hold the servers accountable.

    At our bars in Hermosa Beach…the establishments have the right to stop serving if they feel you are drunk. And all of the bars have breathalyzers. Yah, right at the bar…you can blow and get your alcohol level. It has been a very good program here!!!

    All of these kids need to go to Queens Medical Center and other ER’s so they can see the bodies of DUI accidents. Scare the he’ll out of them.

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  149. Ben A. Lurker July 7, 2012 5:37 pm

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  150. kapakahi July 7, 2012 5:37 pm


    Might be more discipline in the FB program that EVER before on-the-field, BUT obviously NOT necessarily off-the-field.

  151. kapakahi July 7, 2012 5:42 pm


    ST is probably correct….SO the DUIs might not be related to stress.

    BUT the stress is still there for the players and could get worse now….depending on how matters are handled.

  152. BigHiloFan2 July 7, 2012 5:43 pm


    roger your post. see you next Sat.

    puna to hilo, right on lama, right on railroad, past makalika, go to house on left that has nice rock wall type entryway. i’ll give you my cell as we get closer to da day.

  153. BigHiloFan2 July 7, 2012 5:47 pm

    Just guessing. Tachibana, and Dunnachie, cases probably will not be resolved anytime soon. which means, we gotta trust Coach Chow’s decision making, whatever he decides is what we’ve got to go with.

    Coach Chow has been doing everything right so far. The recruits trust him, and are delivering themselves to his program. Time for our holdover guys to step up and be counted too.

    Go coach Chow. In Chow I trust.

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  155. moelepo619 July 7, 2012 6:24 pm

    Kinda looks like the last 2 were looking for a way out of the USC game.

  156. tommui July 7, 2012 6:31 pm

    There are a lot of deaths caused by DUI drivers. Were they stressed out before they took their first drink?

    Or did they take their first drink because they wanted to drink and have fun?

    Does it really make a difference whether it was stress or fun when they start drinking and become incapacitated?

    Or should they be forgiven if they have not killed or injured anyone?

  157. Bowwar July 7, 2012 6:40 pm

    I heard Hadden is a decent punter…Let’s hope we have options for all kicking duties.

  158. Bigislandkurt July 7, 2012 6:43 pm

    ST —

    Who is the next punter behind Dunachie?


  159. oldtimer808 July 7, 2012 6:43 pm

    I’m sorry that these young men made mistakes. I’m sure all of you have made mistakes and some really stupid ones at that too. I think Coach Chow is hurt as well as the other coaches but I think he is also thinking about them as people and not as someone who won’t be able to contribute to the success of the team. Yes these players let down the team, the coaches, the university, the fans, their families, their communities and it is all right there for everyone to see and to be able to throw them under the bus. Coach Chow knows each player and he will handle the situation appropriately without any advise from people who have no clue on the over all concerns of his players. Yes I know you all are disappointed but I’m unable to cast the first stone. I hope these lessons are learned well by these young men and will help others in the future which will go on without any publicity of their good deeds.

  160. A-House July 7, 2012 6:51 pm

    Mine is not to reason why, mine is but to wonder why!

  161. kapakahi July 7, 2012 6:55 pm

    They say that….bad things come in three’s….so let’s hope that this is end of the DUIs or any other off-the-field incidents.

  162. RedZone July 7, 2012 7:30 pm

    Could someone explain the 4 game suspension Chow gave to Shutter? Does it mean that he will not be able to join the team until after the 4th game? Or will he be allowed to practice with the team not suit up for games? Or be able to suit up for games? The 5th game is an away game so if they are not on the traveling squad it will be more like a 5 game suspension?

  163. madeinhawaii July 7, 2012 7:54 pm

    I hate to say it, but the more I think about it, the more I feel that Dunnachie has to be cut for the year. It’s really sad, since it’s his senior year. But maybe he should be given a chance to look for a FCS team to play for.

  164. al July 7, 2012 7:57 pm

    150…of course one should know that discipline is, as in that which is exercised by the coaching staff is displayed on and off the field. the coach lays the law down, but, it is the student/athletes who execute the parameters that are given. it is their choice to cross the line or not, however, suffer the consequences.

    it is up to the student athletes to exercise good judgment stress or no stress. stress does not drive one to drink. a weak mind will everytime to the point of being irresponsible.

    drinking is not an evil deed, but, drunkedness and lack of regard or respect is. especially if one jeopardizes or endangers another persons life.

    …nuff said.

  165. manoa#1 July 7, 2012 8:05 pm

    chow needs to be more serious if he kicked shutter off the team we would not have anymore players getting arrested for DUI. i know for a fact that the meeting they had yesterday was for an incident that happened last week but they chose to keep it on the down low and that came straight from some of the players that i talk to everyday….hmm.

  166. misterfudge July 7, 2012 8:07 pm

    Looks like Dunnachie wasted an opportunity to show off his punting on national television unless Coach decides to start his probable suspension at a later date.

  167. al July 7, 2012 8:07 pm

    disciplinary action in this case is a tough call.

    shutter’s four game suspension sets the bar.

    it would be tough to penalize anything more than this, other than a second offender. any thing with a more severe penance could open a “can of worms”.

  168. al July 7, 2012 8:09 pm

    dunnachie was probably a late round pick going in to the season. the nfl who are very sensitive to character issues these days may shun his talents.

  169. madeinhawaii July 7, 2012 8:13 pm

    Shutter was also suspended from spring practice. If Dunnachie and Tachibana are banned from Fall camp and suspended for the first 4-5 games, it hardly seems likely that they will be game ready come game 6.

  170. INNOCENT OBSERVER July 7, 2012 8:21 pm

    westside warrior – the kicker was not caught drunk, he was caught driving drunk, which is more egregious, he could have maimed or killed someone, if not himself. yes, kids will be kids and will drink, not only those of age, but those under age, but i am not saying it is okay. however, the coach should provide the behavior rules of being on the team. driving drunk is a crime. being drunk is not a crime unless you affect someone else adversely. since this behavior has repeated itself 3 times on the football team in a relativley short time, any punishment must be enhanced to really deter such behavior.

  171. hawaiiwins July 7, 2012 8:26 pm

    Hate to say it, but punishment should be more then 4 games. They should be learning from others mistakes. The players should also be looking out for each other, so extra laps during practice. And maybe Na Koa boosters can start up a designated driver program.

    Coach Chow about to lay the hammer down!

  172. kapakahi July 7, 2012 8:27 pm

    #165. manoa#1,

    SO….what’s your take on the reason(s) for this recent rash of DUIs?

    Mere coincidence that players just so happened to be getting caught recently within a short period of time? OR otherwise?

    I’ve already shared my insights, but now wanna hear yours.

  173. el burro sabio July 7, 2012 8:37 pm


    July 7th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    I hate to say it, but the more I think about it, the more I feel that Dunnachie has to be cut for the year. It’s really sad, since it’s his senior year. But maybe he should be given a chance to look for a FCS team to play for.

    Unless he attended school in 2008-2009 (it’s not mentioned in his bio) he might have a redshirt year available.

    At any rate, he hasn’t been convicted of a crime yet. Coach must be going nuts though.

  174. kapakahi July 7, 2012 8:47 pm


    Alex took over punting duties his true frosh season in 2009…..after Tim Grasso in 2007 & 2008…..so never redshirted.

  175. kev-1 July 7, 2012 8:52 pm

    No Dunnache for the USC game is a guarantee. I guess Coach Chow should just say right here and now that UH will go for it on every fourth down.

  176. manoa#1 July 7, 2012 8:54 pm


    to me chow does’nt do what he say’s he’s gonna do. i have a couple of nephews

    on the team and the very first team meeting he had he laid down the rules. many rules were broken from different players beside the DUI’S and chow has let it slip bye. to me the other players would see that and not take him serious.he just needs to lay down the hammer and start cutting these players who don’t take him serious. we have others who sacrifice for the team and can step up and fill in. that’s just my take hope i made some sense.

  177. madeinhawaii July 7, 2012 8:56 pm

    First day of Fall Camp, Warriors will have to field punting try outs. Maybe Iosefa can be a WildCat punter.

  178. BigWave96744 July 7, 2012 9:08 pm

    Kevin, you just saved me a lot of typing and backlash… Mahalo bro… Like Artie Wilson, you are on point.

    Slugger, why did you feel weary when Alex’s mom got him a car?

  179. BigWave96744 July 7, 2012 9:13 pm

    Btw who was the last male or female athlete from UH to get busted for DUI. I can’t think of any.

  180. Slugger July 7, 2012 9:31 pm

    Saw the news clip of Pilares & Salas at Barefoot League. Sorry I missed them today. Love seeing da ‘boys’. Glad they are doing well. Richard Torres will do well in his next step in life.

    The guys on the team just have to have more self-discipline to not drive when they drink &, really, drinking is a waste of calories.

  181. kapakahi July 7, 2012 9:32 pm

    #176. manoa#1,

    Thanks for your insights.

    Makes alot of sense…..since it confirms what I’ve been hearing about from back even before Spring Ball started.

    Have also heard that some assistant coaches have also been equally inconsistent too.

    Discipline and respect must be demonstrated…..by everyone in the program!

  182. kapakahi July 7, 2012 9:35 pm

    Otherwise, it’ll continue to be……work hard…..and play hard…..unfortunately not just on-the-field!

  183. Slugger July 7, 2012 9:41 pm

    Slugger, why did you feel weary when Alex’s mom got him a car?


    I didn’t feel “weary”; I just had a passing moment of worry that was very fleeting when I heard Alex had a car. I didn’t say his Mom gave him a car. It probably was just a “Mom” thing…worrying about the guys like they were mine. I have been known to be prescient…

  184. Kevin July 7, 2012 9:45 pm

    Go ahead and cut Dunnachie. In that case, Shutter and Tachibana should be cut as well.

    No bias from me.

    Fair is fair right?

    The whole “he’s a starter” BS is just that, B.S.

  185. Kevin July 7, 2012 9:47 pm

    What the hell? A college kid has a car and people think the worst?

    I had a car in high school.

    Never been arrested for anything.

    Jesus Christ some people have lost their goddamn minds again.

  186. Kevin July 7, 2012 9:53 pm

    The next time anyone starts thinking the worst when finding ou college kids have cars or go outside their dorms to socialize instead of studying 24/7/365 or working out non stop like a mindless machine just go ahead and state your reservations as soon as you feel them.

    All this hindsight after the fact crap is just as annoying as having to see these UH football related DUI reports.


  187. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2012 10:34 pm

    I disagree with the argument that because Shutter got a four-game suspension, players thought they could bend the rules. The punishments will be significantly harsher. This I know.

  188. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2012 10:37 pm

    By the way, he did cut a guy for repeatedly breaking rules, although his father, a former player and the ex-player’s father will try to claim otherwise. This I know.

  189. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2012 10:43 pm


    If your nephews didn’t do anything wrong, they have nothing to worry about. And if they were true teammates, they would be happy if another player gets a second chance.

  190. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2012 10:44 pm

    I guess it depends on how egregious the crime is. Didn’t McMackin cut a player who was arrested for shoplifting a bracelet in Waikiki?

    On the other hand, didn’t June Jones invite Colt Brennan, Davone, and Pisa into the program despite their crimes?

    Shouldn’t students be given 2nd chances?

  191. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2012 10:48 pm

    I don’t think Dunnachie should be cut from the team. And his scholarship should not be revoked. He should be suspended for 6 games.

  192. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2012 10:51 pm


    I don’t think Mack did.

  193. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2012 10:52 pm

    I can’t remember his name, but he was a backup kicker.

  194. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2012 10:53 pm

    They won’t revoke the scholarships. But a punishment won’t be decided until after the cases are heard. Shutter was suspended after he pled no contest to the DUI charge.

  195. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2012 10:54 pm

    He was a walkon and it was earrings.

  196. WarriorNY July 7, 2012 10:57 pm

    Significantly harsher? Yikes that does not bode well for Alex… I’m all for second chances so I hope he can get back out there soon.

  197. d1shima July 7, 2012 10:59 pm

    Let’s give all the players a second chance. Make it a rule.

    What’s the odds that out of 100+ incidents someone gets killed?

    DUI is serious chit. It’s recklessly pointing a 2500 lb chunk of steel at somebody heading towards them at 50 mph with dulled vision and slow reflexes.

  198. d1shima July 7, 2012 11:01 pm

    ..but d4mn it, it’s football!

  199. d1shima July 7, 2012 11:02 pm


    Having your Mom killed by a drunk driver is stressful.

  200. d1shima July 7, 2012 11:03 pm


    Losing the ability to walk for the rest of your life is stressful.

  201. d1shima July 7, 2012 11:03 pm


    Dealing with traumatic brain injury is stressful.

  202. d1shima July 7, 2012 11:04 pm

    Stress is not doing well in football practice?

  203. WarriorNY July 7, 2012 11:16 pm

    I didn’t say not to punish the guy. I just hope he can get out there.

  204. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2012 11:20 pm

    I’ve been reading here that players drink because they’re stressed from the pressure of playing for a hard-assed coach.

    Or they’re drinking because the coach is not hard-assed enough.

    I think young people drink because they think that’s part of having a good time. (I certainly know a lot of older people who drink for that reason.) And I think they drive after that because they think they can handle it. (I certainly know of a lot of older people who think that after knocking back a few.)

    Yes, they made bad decisions and they will be punished for it.

    And if people think that others who did wrong during the offseason are getting away easy, well, that’s not the case. Come training camp, if a person broke team rules during the offseason there will be a lot of rolling and crawling and book-over-the-head holding and more running and a lot of barfing but, most of all, some learning.

    This I know.

  205. A-joe July 7, 2012 11:27 pm

    Here’s a novel idea- Let the judicial system work and let Chow decide what needs to be done.

    Meanwhile, what these young men need more than criticism and clueless opinions is our support. They feel like crap already.

  206. d1shima July 7, 2012 11:32 pm

    Well, Nigel seems to have a definite plan. ๐Ÿ‘ฟ

  207. al July 7, 2012 11:43 pm

    st, ajoe…truly words of wisdom spoken.

  208. WarriorNY July 7, 2012 11:48 pm

    I agree.

    Well said ST and A-Joe

  209. SteveM July 8, 2012 12:02 am

    Stephen Tsai:

    July 7th, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    I think young people drink because they think that’s part of having a good time. (I certainly know a lot of older people who drink for that reason.) And I think they drive after that because they think they can handle it. (I certainly know of a lot of older people who think that after knocking back a few.)

    Yup. Well said, ST. Happens in college, coworker parties, military, etc.

    Been there, done that. Seen it, will see it again….

    Coaches and supervisors do what they can, and we hope they survive their new-found adulthood.

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