Don't mess with Texas
HOUSTON — First things first
We found Papa’s Bar-B-Q. Here are the babyback ribs and sausages:
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And this is where it all begins:
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Did I mention regular gasoline is $3.20 a gallon?
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OK, on to practice. There was a thunderstorm outside, which is why it was fortunate the Warriors practiced tonight in the University of Houston complex. They arrive:
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The artificial surface is actually placed on top of the track:
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On the wall at one end, a goal post is drawn:
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On another wall, there is padding, with illustrations of football players. Linemen can practice their punch blocks on these pads:
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The ceilings are about 40 yards from the field. Alex Dunnachie struck the ceiling with two of his punts before deciding he needed another challenge:
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Before practice, former NFL running back Alonzo Highsmith addressed the team. Here are Highsmith and quarterback Bryant Moniz:
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Cornerback Mike Edwards, with “Swag” cut into his hair:
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Across the street from the hotel there is “Aranda’s Bakery,” which, of course, is not affiliated with defensive coordinator Dave Aranda:
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Defensive tackle Geordon Hanohano practices a swim move:
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Scott Harding on the return:
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Jordan Gomes, Luke Ingram and Rykin Enos:
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The grass and dirt from UH’s practice field is still caked on Luke Ingram’s cleats:
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OK, let’s take a tour of the Houston indoor facility.
Here’s the volleyball section, which holds about 700:
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There’s an amazing Hall of Fame center.
One exhibit focuses on Phi Slamma Jamma:
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And there’s a section for golf. That’s David Ishii on the far right:
First????
Woo Hoo….after all these years….From Day One of this blog…I’m finally first…MWAHAHAHAHAHHA
Yup, Houston is definitely a huge city!
Howzit, everyone!
Go, Warriors!!!
Morning!
Always good to see and make comparisons between facilities of other schools… especially those of other non-AQ schools.
Would it be an NCAA infraction if Hawaii asked if they could borrow Houston’s scout team for a couple of days? 🙂
Hmm! I thought I’d give it a shot. What place am I?
Big Daddy:
You gonna make the trip?
MIH:
I think there’s a loophole using Houston players.
Warriors can just say they were practicing against UH.
Yes, We arrive tomorrow into Monroe. And driving into Rustin. We have family in Louisania. LOL.
Actually ST, statistically, the City and County of Honolulu is the longest city in the United States with its jurisdiction stretching all the way to the Northwest Hawaiian Islands, Kure Atoll to be exact, with the exception of Midway. Honolulu is about 1,500 miles (2,414 km) long when taking this into consideration and is actually the longest city in the world….
Just more useless facts….LOL
In case you’re keeping track of your media:
Bobby Curran and John Veneri were on the Honolulu-Denver-Houston legs of the trip They’re at the airport now, waiting for their flight to Shreveport. I believe Jim Donovan heads to Shreveport today, too.
The rest of us bring the show to Monroe (hey, that rhymes) tomorrow.
Once again, walk-through will be in Houston tomorrow. No walk-through in Louisiana.
Big Daddy….Me too….more in the New Orleans and Lafayette areas though…LOL
(Jesse) James:
Hey, that’s good stuff. I’m going to work it into a conversation one day.
Big Daddy:
We’re going to be heading to Shreveport tomorrow night if you’d like to join us. We’re going to dine there, gamble a little, and try to see what the casino built with the money Stretch lost during his last visit.
Houston’s got a good team this season. How far is the drive from Houston to La Tech?
Not sure. I don’t think the plane is taxi-ing that far.
so clay may see PT on D this weekend? impressive.
Good morning Tsaikos!!
ST – did you have spam last night/this morning? j/k
Where is Brandon Leslie on the depth chart at FS? I think I saw him on a kickoff team during the end of the UC davis game,
Top 25…I remember my stay in Houston vividly…Very hot and muggy. First time I ever saw “sheet rain” as well. The airport is the worse in the U.S. especially if you have to change terminals to get to a connecting flight.
“Gone in 60 seconds” doesn’t just pertain to cars! 😆
Food is fuel…
“As college programs struggle to maintain their dominance in the face of increasing parity, the issue of how much the players eat during the season—and what they’re eating—has been elevated from a running joke to a serious matter that includes teams of chefs, dietitians and volunteers, and that’s becoming part of the way some teams prepare for games.”
http://goo.gl/vxzg7
I remember a good Cajun place in Houston called Magnolias that had was fabulous.
The only thing I’ve seen of Houston is two guys walking an airport concourse with a tennis ball stuck on the end of a stick cleaning scuff marks off the floor.
Brian Clay, yes.
Don’t think Charles Clay is here.
There actually is supposed to be one more player on the trip that I missed. I’ll search … whenever they get up and start roaming the hotel.
Whoop! Whoop!
Top of the morning yah mates…….have yaw’ll reach up yarder by the buyou yet? Yah see that house there made out of shingles? Me an my pa used to live in that haouse there….Catch me one of them bloody crocks……so massive in size. lol
Tsai, please send my love too all my ex’s in Texas!
Bowwar:
Now you did it. I’m hungry.
wow, Charles Clay left off the travel roster? unreal, hes like our best ST player. must be injured or something.
any chance 1 or 2 of the coaches visit a certain Kansas JC this weekend?
poly:
The only crocs I want are deep-fried.
Mahalo, ST, for finally posting a new thread. Kekoa and I totally ran out of Rice to eat with all the Spam that inundated the last thread this morning.
Burrrp!
Ugh!
letsgo:
My bad.
Charles Clay is on the travel roster.
Call off the hit, please.
Hahaha!
A-Joe:
I think Scott M is supposed to check for spam.
He’s Inspector Gadget. He has a lot of new cells and tablets and stuff.
MCB:
I’m kind of confused as to Leslie’s role.
He’s listed as a free safety, but then Brian Clay said he’s backing up both safety positions.
I’m anxious to see Leslie get some real playing time.
Big_Daddy,
Safe travels. I know y’all will have a wonderful time watching your son. We’re so proud of him, too. Aloha to the ‘ohana!
GO WARRIORS!!!
Morning, ST! Good luck! 😀
LOL…Mostly gators in La….and fried ones taste good….
On the drive over, saw Aranda’s Bakery.
A-Joe…wait??? U and Kekoa had rice??? I needed some too…had to go home and cook my own….Aiyaaaahh…LOL
Did Slugger just write y’all?
Someone is in game-day mode.
11: (J)J is our resident, “Cliff Clavin!” AWESOME!!!
We moved from Michigan two months ago, leaving behind cheap gas prices at $4.09 per gallon. Along our drive south, we noticed gas get slightly cheaper and then level off at $3.79 by the time we hit Kentucky. In the two months since our arrival in Georgia, cheap gas is now at $3.21. That’s more than 50 cents cheaper in just two months, and yet it looks like Hawaii’s gas is climbing back up since my last visit back home.
From the other post:
“Agree with ST, if Mack only wants a two year extension and is looking to retire soon, UH should do what a lot of other colleges have been doing recently with their “Coach in Waiting” programs….basically name Rolo, or whoever, as the next head coach in a few years. That would keep him here…and ease the transition period as well as keep recruits happy/interested in the program.”
Good morning Tsaikos!!
ST – thanks for the reminder! Don’t forget to say Hi to MAiLE
40: the key word is, “Had.”
If we had two more 50 pound bags we could’ve made choke Musubi’s and drop um off at all the 7-11 and Aloha Gas stations this morning. Twice! =)
A-Joe, not really Cliff Claven type…don’t wear high-water pants…LMAO
Actually, just remember that stuff from having to do a report for other government officials visiting Hawaii years back. I had to detail a lot of unique things about Hawaii that most/many people do not know…eg., like Hawaii is the southernmost state in the U.S., Hawaii was only one of 2 states that was once a Republic (the other being Texas) and that Hawaii is the only state that was once a kingdom (I think most people know that); that Hawaii is not only home to the wettest spot on Earth but also the tallest peak when measured from the ocean floor (Mauna Kea)….etc.
Stretch:
I’ll give her the big aloha.
i watched Pee-wee’s Big Adventure.
the stars at night, are big and bright *tap* *tap* tap* *tap*, deep in the heart of Texas.
cowboy #1: what’s your name?
Pee-wee: i can’t remember.
cowboy #2: where are you from?
Pee-wee: i can’t remember.
cowboy #1: can you remember anything?
Pee-wee: i remember… the Alamo.
…or that Hormel sells more Spam (the real kine) here than the rest of the US combined!
Good morning everyone!
Good afternoon, ST!
I keep forgetting to give you a MRE “Accessories” package for road trips like this one…
…ask Kekoa or BG what it typically contains… 🙂
St – giver “her” some of your Maunawili “aloha”
Hawaii has its own time zone. nuff sed.
Hiram Fong was the first asian american in the US senate.
Wow! Never disregard the, “Have a safe flight.” wishes….
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/130791403.html
Re: Contracts.
Obviously, the salary for the UH football coach will go down considerably for the 2013-2014 seasons.
That’s to be expected.
But personally, I just don’t like the idea of a management style based on cutting. Maybe I’m an optimist, or just unrealistic, but I believe in growth and trying to make money instead of saving money.
A company that does $26 million business might seem like a lot, but it’s not that extraordinarily high. Not when you consider it has limited taxes and it receives some government subsidies.
I think UH can do better. Might be naive to think that way, but there are more revenue sources to be tapped.
not sure about today but Hawaii is the only state that grows coffee.
d1:
I bet after that, the guy had to use the bathroom again.
SDSU’s AD talked about the potential MWC-CUSA merger.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/sep/28/bcs-holds-sway-over-mountain-west-merger/
The same article has a note about how the BCS contracts expire in January 2014 and the BCS might end then.
True about the coffee, spam, time zone, and Asian-American Senator….
Also that Hawaii is the only state that grows chocolate….and has all but one of the climates in the climatization categories…
Agree with UH to have no “walkthru’s”…
But speedy “runthrough” beep-beep!
…I bet after that he was all done with the bathroom bidness! 😈
Tulane’s AD talked about the MWC-CUSA merger discussions. Note that Tulane has one of the votes that will determine if the MWC gets AQ status when they appeal after this season…and the MWC-CUSA merger won’t happen if the MWC gets AQ status. Doesn’t that give Tulane an incentive to vote *against* the MWC getting AQ status?
http://www.nola.com/tulane/index.ssf/2011/09/update_from_conference_usa-mou.html
D1…yeah, saw that story….What a trip that must have been…Imagine as a passenger, suddenly finding yourself upside down in a 737…Although it seemed that everyone had their seat-belts fastened.
Wish we had cheap gas at $3.20 a gallon. On Monday, gas was $ 4.139 when i filled up. According to one website, the price of gas in the US in 1970 was $ .36 per gallon, Nixon was the President.
Anyone shocked by the proposed 44 % increase of coach Gib’s salary of $105,000 per year to $345,000 ? Is this based on only his first year of coaching ? I was shocked, but the shock is wearing off some.
The Big East is meeting on Sunday. I’m sure they will release a statement about how they are committed to the Big East…and then any of their schools will bail if they get an ACC, SEC, Big 10, or Big 12 invitation.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-newswire-20110929,0,6900824,full.story
and I’m sure the bathrooms had long lines after that incident….or maybe not…Ewwwww….LOL
The NCAA’s President doesn’t even know how many FBS schools there are.
http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/09/28/092811-sports-ncaa-prez-qna-1-2/
ST,
The Legislature/Gov is going to significantly cut UH’s funding. UHAD has probably maxed out on PPV TV money and may lose it all to the MWC anyway. Football ticket sales are down. JD has to make more money in this tough economy just to prevent UH from having to cut significantly…I don’t think UHAD is thinking about growing their budget now.
“…BCS ceases to exist after 2014″…
Is it 2015 yet?
ST,
Just a shot in the dark, but was JD a part of that meeting with the MWC/CUSA thing about the mega “conference”?
Kevin,
There are 3 ADs from each conference that are taking part of the meetings. UH is not 1 of the 3 schools there.
I’m quite disappointed that the MWC members aren’t even pretending to stay committed to eachother.
Then again it’s refreshing to see some “honesty” amid this conference bull-kaka.
Kevin,
UH will still have input and most importantly a vote when it comes to the mega conference. Im also sure that if Donovan has questions, Thompson will ask in his behalf.
Stephen, nice article today about Ikaika Woolsey. It begs for more information about him since he’s a nice story such as about his parents, are they originally from Hawaii. Was his dad or mom an athlete? How many siblings does he have? Who is his favorite player? Does he have a hobby? You know, a little insight about him in a very good human touch that helps us gravitate to knowing our Warriors personally. Just a suggestion. But, thanks for the article anyway, it is very interesting to read as far as I’m concerned.
U mentoned that 16 freshmen on the travel squad. Could you to go down the list besides Tyler Hadden. I’m assuming it includes true freshmen and redshirt freshmen. I can think of Beau Yap and Dee Maggitt as redshirt freshmen so that’s 3. Lefotu is a redshirt freshman right? Michael Sellers, a grayshirt freshman? That makes 5. The other names escapes me right now. Oh, is Jordan Loeffler a redshirt freshman? Brian Clay is a true freshman. Scott Harding is a true freshman. That makes 8.
Kevin,
I agree with iwonderwhytheyhateme that JD will have input and a vote. The discussions have been going on for a long time and I’m sure that JD has been kept up-to-date. Several of the other MWC and CUSA ADs are publicly referring to the negotiations, with the CUSA ADs in favor of it and the MWC ADs generally in favor of it if the MWC doesn’t get AQ status after this season.
I’m sure that the consistency behind the MWC AD statements indicates that Thompson has been keeping them informed and that the MWC schools are agreed on the course of action…of course, several MWC schools are trying to get into AQ conferences right now, but they are still hoping for the best for the MWC in case they remain in the conference.
The MWC ADs have probably been keeping Thompson up-to-date also, which is why he’s been publicly talking about how the MWC could lose Air Force and BSU.
So now that Upper Campus’ delay on Gib’s contract may cost UHAD $105k/year, does that mean that they will provide $105k/year extra to UHAD? Or will they just look at the bottom line and “forget” that they are responsible for $105k of the expenses…
Garret – Lots of chatter about BYU agreeing in principle to Big 12 entrance…with TCU, Cincinnati, Louisville and West Virginia to follow. That’d potentially bring Big 12 to 14 teams…provided that Missouri stays.
Missouri is supposed to decide next week Tuesday on conference affiliation. It’d seem that Missouri would like to see what the Big 12 will look like before they decide one way or another on the SEC. Strength in numbers with additional AQ schools for the Big 12…so it’d seem.
Is the above a good scenario for the Mountain West? That’d seem to help discourage AFA from the Big East (is there anyone other than USF that will be playing football there?), and keep Boise in the MW. So is it best to hope that Missouri stays, and all those BE teams move over into the Big 12/14?
I was shocked at Gibb’s salary increase, too. All this while they are trying to drastically cut Coach Mack’s salary after a 10-4 season.
Kinda of OT…anyone know what’s the ethnic makeup of Jane Croson? She didn’t look anything like what I’d initially expected with that name. Was mentioned on the radio this morning that there may be some blood relation to the former USC player that’s currently around campus.
the freshman are probably: taimatuia, brian clay, sellers, maggitt, hadden, harding, iosefa, lister, malepeai, afusia, loeffler, loyd, lefotu, samia, yap, muir (?)
Darren,
That could be very good for the MWC. If the MWC keeps BSU and Air Force and the Big East is hurt, the MWC moves up in the conference rankings.
I hope that it happens. I’ll be worried until the official announcements are made.
#55 – Stephen Tsai: – Funny how the upper campus told JD “to run it like a business” maybe they need to take their own advice.
madeinhawaii,
Gib signed a contract that was quite a bit under market rates for the WAC.
Mack signed a contract that was quite a bit over market rates for the WAC, especially since there was no buyout clause.
It was clear from the stat that UH would have to pay Gib more for his next contract if he had success. Thanks to Upper Campus, Gib’s next contract is replacing the first contract he agreed to.
If was clear years ago that Mack would need to take a pay cut for his next contract. When Chris Petersen takes a pay cut with a top-5 team and Pat Hill takes a pay cut from over $1 mil to just $650k, the market was set.
Back to work…deadline in 2 hours.
Garret,
The two staradvertiser articles today said part of Gib’s salary will be covered by UH boosters or donors.
His new salary, the highest in UH basketball history, would rank him third in the WAC and first in the Big West, per Ferd. UH came in 5th in the WAC last year out of 9 teams, with an 8 – 8 record.
Gib’s contract is cheap, especially if we expect to challenge annually for conference championships and NCAA berths. I only hope he schedules quality teams in the future rather than the cream puffs from last season and a few more this upcoming season. We can’t climb the ladder of respect and better ourselves playing teams who themselves rarely get invited to the NCAA.
In comparison, Frank Martin at K State was a High school coach and an assistant coach all of his career until K State appointed him head coach 5 years ago.
Currie said Martin would make an average of $1.55 million for the 2010-11 season through 2014-15, and also receive a signing bonus of $462,800, along with a “nationally competitive” incentives program that could add up to 32 percent of his base salary.
good thing is, a portion of Gib’s contract is paid by boosters. any boosters willing to pay part of Mack’s contract? doubt there is significant interest there. although i wont doubt u tsaiko’s could probably raise a decent amount for Mack’s contract.
Still, didn’t Gibb agree to a multi-year contract when he first got onboard? Shouldn’t that increase and incentive be built in AFTER the initial contract period? Was this all due to the administration’s fumbling of his initial contract and never getting it done on a timely basis in the first place?
Coach Gib is getting chump change compared to Frank Martin. The schools are about the same size, and isolated, but the major difference is the level of competition K State competes with and of late they have started to win their games under Martin. Winning makes everyone happy,the fans, their alumni, generous boosters, and the Manhattan community.
So if Gib continues to win and starts winning championships, his salary won’t seem as large and out of line in today’s economy.
letsgowarriors:
If pressed, I think the boosters would come out to support Mack and Company. I think they would rather have Mack than have him go elsewhere and take what coaches would go along with him, if it came to that.
I don’t wanna see Hal Mumme as the next candidate..
Although Hal Mumme as Mouse’s replacement should Mouse leave, may not be all that bad.
Coach Gib is worth ever cent. We might be getting him below market price given his potential. I am wondering how much work did Gib do on his own with Boosters or Donors to help him boost up his salary so UH can keep him for a few more years.. Well done coach! Keep up the good work! He’ll be hitting em up for $500k soon – look out..
ST # 55 is absolutely right UH is underachieving in tapping resources.. UH Athletics Brand should be worth over $50 million per year. Don’t tap out and start cutting.. Tap in and start generating.. in keeping up with the Booshay’s.. “You can do it!”
#92 MIH – Three head coach type on one team, not to sure about that????
Don’t get me wrong.. I’m not saying he’s not worth it… I’m just pointing out that he had an agreement that hadn’t expired… Bad timing when you are cutting the head coach salary for the biggest money making sport and giving a sizeable boost, percentage wise, to the salary of significantly less revenue producing sport. What percent of the BB revenues does Gibb’s salary represent? What percent does Macks against the FB revenues?
SMART MONEY ON THIS:
Or will they just look at the bottom line and “forget” that they are responsible for $105k of the expenses…
Pomai…
all as mentors… well sort of.. Mumme would be WR coach/mentor
No forget.. Basketball Tryouts… Oct 2nd.. 2pm…
Hhopefully the next Henry Hollingsworth will be in that group.
I am all for Head Coaches to go out and work the boosters and donors.. go out, make calls do whatever it takes to raise money for the Athletic Dept. trick is, I think is that they gotta like you..
just taking a peak at Diamond & Platinum Corporate partners – really? thats it?
Well there it is… boosters picking up the tab and not Upper Campus.
Were boosters involved in the crafting of the contract???????????
So in essence the buck was passed on to lower campus as the boosters “loosely” represent lower campus’ interests.
In my opinion, you cannot wait until the end of the season to decide on Greg McMackin’s coaching fate. It would damage the recruting a lot for next season. Recruits wants to have assurances and the confidence who they are playing for and with. As much as playing for a school, players select the program because of the relationships between the recruit and the coaches who recruit them. To me, if and when Hawaii earns 7 wins to sew up the Hawaii Bowl bid right then and there his contract status should be decided upon. Now, it could go down to the very last game against BYU to decide the season if we have a winning season, but to me it shouldn’t wait til then. At the very latest, as soon as the WAC season is over we will know if we are WAC champions or now. If we have a WAC record of at least 5-2 we would be bowl eligble with 2 games left on the season with Tulane and BYU. Win 6-1 in the WAC and we are possibly co-champions, win 7-0 it would be understood. 4-3 in the WAC probably means a 4th place finish, maybe tied for 3rd. We would have to beat Tulane in the 12th game to make it to a bowl game. Either way, the expections going into this season were high with a returning top QB and a supposedly solid defense. The OL has been a big question and our running game is not opening holes like last year with Alex Green. It is very diffcult to replace proven players ike Greg Sales, Kealoha Pilares, and Green who are all in the NFL. There is a definite drop off. Some people need to step up big. I don’t know who whey are, but somebody has to.
Pomai,
I’m thinking.. if the way to attract some of the best assistant coaches in NCAA football is to be the school where Old Generals come to fade away, that might not be too bad of a deal.
Well then you know what that means RIGHT??????????????????
If the Warriors win 7 with several more games to play, Coach Mack should re-submit his salary proposal. Should they go to 8 wins without a contract.. he should raise his request to 800K… should they go 9 and he’s still without contract.. raise it another 100K…
Kevin,
?? File for Chapter 11? or just go straight to Chapter 13?
Last time we were in Shreveport went to Sam’s Town and they had a gigantic Bowl of Pho.
Cooks were wondering why they were running out so quickly, told him we’re all from Hawaii and came just for this Pho.
He gave us a big smile and kept making larger ones. They were great. Making me hungry.
AHHH lunch time already.
Made,
You saw what happened to the warden in the Shawshank Redemption?
And another thing, I feel strongly that we lost big time in the secondary wth the loss of Mana Silva, Spencer Smith, Lametrius Davis, and Jeremy Bryant. All seniors and one of the top secondaries last year in all of college football in interceptions. that’s a lot to lose. This year, we have not met or exceeded the production so far. The back end needs to step it up big time.
That’s definitely thunder I hear.
all Mack has to tell recruits is, “look they have already offered me 1 contract but i rejected it and counter offered. they declined my counter offer and we decided to put this off till after the season so we can focus on winning games. ill be here.”
Ralph,
What was Frank Martin’s salary before his most recent raise ? He has been at K State for 4 years now and went to the NCAA tourney 3 times. Big 12 is a more high profile league than the WAC or the Big West.
Gib did do a good job, first trip to post season in seven years,first winning season since 2006-07 and 38 percent increase in attendance, per McInnis.
Former coach Frank Arnold is getting some redemption, noticed he was on trip to China and attends UH games …
heh. I just flushed. Seriously I just did.
Re: Gib Arnold’s contract.
Actually, “boosters” were paying for 1.5 assistant coaching positions, not Arnold’s salary.
UH had a set amount it wanted to pay the assistants. Arnold wanted to exceed that amount, which is why he decided to raise the money for his assistants.
95 – you can throw out the percentages of revenues out.. especially when tax payers or students monies aren’t being used.. I am not an expert on Title IX and how it applies. but, If I am a booster and I have an extra $1 million to donate and I am a basketball fan and happen to like the coach and the program he is running. I can take that check and say JD please apply this to specifically Coach Gib and his basketball program.. I think thats how it might work. I think thats how he may have gotten a bump in pay? so my take is, percentages dont apply here… more work by the athletic dept to find a way to balance other money going to other sports – but i am not too sure how all that works out..
good work on Gib – boosters like him!
Speaking of lightning, would it be against NCAA rules for UH to sport a 25th Infantry Tropic Lightning sticker on their helmets? FSU has that odd looking Green V on theirs.
#115 I think the one puka puka or 442 regiment dui would be more appropriate.
Army already sports Unit patches on their sleeves, including Tropic Lightning
Go for broke!
No slack the Gasssssssss!
…but it would be cool to hear a team break that said, “Go For Broke!”
🙂
Derek ~
Re:#101
We went down that road a few days ago. When we got to the end, the sign said,
“Detour – Bridge Out Ahead!”
The problem has been discussed on this blog left, right and center.
We’re ALL still talking about the solution…on the blog and not in the boardroom where it should be. Nobody has the guts to step up and grab the wheel. Who would you suggest we get to light the fire under their okole to get this show on the road? Otherwise we can jaw about this all month long and sound like a bunch of *whiners.*
paragraphs would be nice.
GO WARRIORS!
GO WAHINE!
After drills, maybe Coach Shaw can have his charges do some conditioning with a run up the stairs carrying other guests’ luggage!
forget the patch, just print go for broke; Hawaii would know what that means.
DUI=distinguished unit insignia
Derek, I agree with your assessment. I looked at this year as a rebuilding year at all positions except QB. Every position was hit. We came off a championship season. There were few challengers to last years skill positions on both sides of the ball. Upper campus is a poor judge of athletic contracts. More than anyone they were asleep at the wheel on the JJ situation. If Football had the budget we’d have charter flights and the team would not have had to stay in a casino for a week. Recruiters would be able to stay on the continent for longer periods and make more quality visits. The list goes on with the wishes. Given what Mac has to work with, I don’t believe any coach would be able to produce the same results. Ask any potential UH coach from a successful mainland program about Hawaii’s resources. JJ and Mack overlooked our shortcomings, saw potential, strove to improve the facilities and were local citizens who gave their best efforts to our community. I challenge the BOR to find a candidate who would be willing to do these things and win despite the odds against them. Think of past coaches in other UH sports that were poor fits.
so are we gonna say its a rebuilding year every year? i mean we lose Moniz, Pollard, Lefiti, Laurel, Leonard, Faaumu, Sapolu, Tuipulotu, Meatoga, Masch, Satele, Paredes, Brown, Torres, Hopkins. every year is a rebuilding year w Mack.
If Mack has 7 wins early, then he definitely deserves a decent salary…How about renegotiating his contract to “replace” his current contract for 3 years at $850,000. In essence, he’ll lose the last year of his current contact of $1m+ and replace it with a reduced amount of $850K per the 3 years. UH will get their reduced contract amount and as the total package will be less…
I think that the other “non-revenue” sports should be thanking Mack for keeping up the $$$ for those sports to survive and flourish…Sooner or later, they need to start paying for their existence too.
ST – Where is your hotel located? Hopefully, its not in downtown Houston…
I suggested this as a tribute to our home guard and the original Hawaiian Division. Based out of Schofield, it would be a great partnership in support our troops and for them to support our team. Schofield or another base would be a great place for Spring and Fall camps. It might open doors for road trips for us to use facilities. Also separating troops, looking to go to school on the GI bill would consider UH. You’d have mature, tough former high school ballers on scholarship walking on at Manoa.
Unit insignia:
I believe West Point allows the Division insignia on jerseys to indicate the unit the player may be assigned upon graduation or the players interest in a specific “division”/major unit or to honor all the Army’s Divisions – note the 1st or 3rd Army is not worn or Corps.
any USMA grads out there? plz correct me if I’m wrong.
Kekoa: Rockne Freitas is a logical choice to succeed Hinshaw. If Hawaii wants big time football and athletics we need a professional vision.
Bowwar,
I don’t think Mack ever has or will receive the 1.1 million he originally agreed to. He’s still in the 900K category.
Ala Wai #132:
I don’t think Dept of Defense will allow “private” institutions to receive special allowance(s) to use of facilities, etc.
When the Army uses Air force assets, the Army has to “pay” for the use of an aircraft.
Nice thought, tho!
Wasn’t it one of the Faheko kids that publicly stated that McMackin’s uncertainty as a head coach in Hawaii was one of his reasons for going elsewhere? Athletes care…they want assurances. So do their parents.
It goes ignored and unannounced, but non-revenue sports (aka the cancer of athletics in the eyes of SOME) have been PAYING already…. they’ve been PAYING for sure to carry their share of the weight of cutbacks.
We’ve seen the budget cuts effect the bigger sports but I think it might be out of my place to disclose how cuts to other sports are effecting the student-athletes and coaches.
Whether you care or not, it’s happening.
And speaking on a personal standpoint, every dollar helped raised is a DOLLAR less that non-revenue sports has to “beg” for.
The BIGGEST mis-conception is that non-revenue sports are DEAD WEIGHT and for some, that’s fine, but to assume they are sitting pretty in a tree not having to sacrifice, well that’s far from TRUTH.
the money folks already rejected coach Mack’s counter offer of $850k.
as in the limbo, how low can you go.
Kevin,
I don’t doubt you but you don’t “hurt” your biggest revenue producer following a successful season … you reinvest and try to make it grow even bigger.
The only people non-revenue sports has to thank are the people that support them directly because they want to and see value in their contributions.
Made,
My rant is separate from the Coach Mack contract issue. I haven’t opined or offered my take into how UH does it because I don’t know.
Mr. Bowwar over hear makes his opinion known and in that context so will I.
They can give Mack 5 more years at 10 million a year and I won’t flinch, well, maybe stop flinching after the first minute or so.
Ok…
People need to stop harping on Gib’s raise. He deserves that and more. UH will never get a coach with his combination of coaching ability, recruiting and love for the islands for a salary like his. Earlier this year I was reading the NY Post saw an article about NYC’s basketball player of the year. I figured the guy would end up at St. Johns or UCON. Turns out the guy is going to Hawaii… Shaquille Stokes… He’s a tad bit undersized but can really play the point…
UH will never have a coach who will get a recruit like the NYC player of the year for the salary that Gib makes… The guy deserves much more than the raise he’s getting…
Kevin,
I think these admins only know how to cut back.. most if not all are not marketers or entrepreneurs who look to dramatically increase the revenue producing areas of the school. It’s easier to make budget by cutting back than being creative. And making budget is how they make their bonuses. They should have to increase revenue AND make budget for any bonus whatsoever.
My point here is I am responding to this statement as is and how it relates directly to the on-going Coach Mack contract negotiations is beyond me.
While it’s one’s own opinion and probably the opinion of others, I felt it was an unnecessary shot to those that might be perceived as do-nothings that don’t carry their weight in any fashion at all this MY opinion BASED on real things I have experienced and no one else’s.
and no forget some of those non-revenue sports are really really really tied into Title IX. like track and field, soccer, softball, water polo and cross country.
Kevin,
Are you the same Kevin that writes articles about UH on bleacher report?
WarriorNY, agreed. Gib is deserving. He’ll be more deserving when he brings home a WAC or MWC championship like Mac.
WarriorNY,
Nope. But now you make me want to take a look for myself.
“Gib’s contract is cheap, especially if we expect to challenge annually for conference championships and NCAA berths.”
ummmm, Ralph, when did we not expect to challenge annually for championships and tourney berths?
even if there was a volunteer coach i would still expect to be champs and go tourney-ing.
AlaWai,
Good point… Incentives would be a good part of the of the new contract…
Kevin,
Yeah, this guy does real good stories on players at UH.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/869169-hawaii-football-australian-scott-harding-earns-his-wings-in-american-football
Sorry i forgot the link…
Title IX…
Some feel it’s a crime that it exists. Some won’t come out and say it, but they feel it.
The only crimes Title IX and it’s beneficiaries are guilty of are:
-being born
-wanting to play sports and earn a free education out of it
God forbid huh????
the thing with incentives is that if the coach(es) do get the max incentives then that money has to be earmarked somewhere. what if no mo’ money to pay incentives when the time comes? aiyah!
Ala wai. the 24th and the 25th were former buffalo soldiers. The 100th and the 442 predominantly came from here. They were the most decorated…end of story. If there is a patch to be worn it should be the 100th.
and also no forget that Title IX does not only encompass sports.
Take it out of the UH President’s salary..
BTW what kind of cuts did the UH Pres and BOR members take?
That is, besides the Chancelor’s ?
They should be like me… every morning I wake up unemployed until I make my first sale.
and then you are unemployed until you make your next sale or stay employed until your last sale?
Boosters like Oceanic Time Warner should like Gib. More wins more viewers, more viewers more expensive the ad rates.. I dont want to say they are tied at the hip, but it affects their bottom line if UH sport is not doing so well.
Gib has leverage, Mack doesn’t.
Gib exceeded expecatations. He got the team to play “hard” and won some games with sheer effort. He’s lit a small flame under the fan base which will grow larger with continued success. His contract is a statement that the “powers that be” believe they will get a good return on their investment.
Mack has not exceeded anyone’s expectations. Some will say he’s not close to meeting what they expected. It seems the numbers being thrown around are 650K on the low end and 800K on the high end. His non contract seems to indicate the “powers that be” are closely watching the numbers($$$) being generated. While winning might not necessarily translate to higher revenue, losing almost guarantees lower revenue. I’m sure Mack will get his extention it’s a question of at how much.
same with Bud Light , Pepsi etc.. hit em up for more money! UH is worthy on their ROI
162 – exactly!
Couch Potato..
Something like that.. I don’t get paid unless I make a sale. No other benefits.. nada.
Same with my wife. No salaries, no hourly wages. We only made one sale this morning.
kawika49.
No disrespect for the 442nd or 100th was intended.
My suggestion is based on present day support of our Hawaii based troops currently fighting overseas. The 25th is based in Hawaii and has a long history of distinguished service as well. http://cybersarges.tripod.com/25history.html
Both units are deserving of any and all recognition. The 442nd and 100th for their historic contribution and Tropic Lightning for the past and present.
And what the 100th didnt go to Iraq and Afghanistan?
Take a look at why the 25th came here, they were mostly blsck soldiers, do you history first.
No mo bambucha gau gee?
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/130819533.html
Look, I was with the 1/508th of the 82nd airborne (67-70), and if any unit should represent Hawaii, it should be the “Go for Broke Boys”.
100th.442nd, YES!
jm2375, NOOOOOOOO, hope the new owners keep the beeg buggahz!!!!
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BIK
Had an interesting discussion at lunch today so have a question for everyone.
Question for those wanting UH Football to get to the “Big Time”. Out of all the Division 1A teams, what power ranking do you think is the “Big Time”??
I also did a little research and I’ll post the results after I read some of the answers to the question above.
#162:I don’t buy that Gib has more pull than Mack,especially when he went 19-13 it’s a good turn around but not worthy of a raise….Mack has won a WAC championship and is graduating his student athletes at very high rate,if schollie players continue to leave the BBall team that can have a very negative impact in regards to APR…alot of it has to do with boosters though so I hope some step up and back Coach Mack…like I said before I’m willing to and I’m sure others out there are willing to also..
Some useless information. Just as useless as (Jesse) James ‘Honolulu being the longest city’ post.
Mack (2008 – 2011):
Hawaii vs. FCS teams – 4 and 0 (100%)
Hawaii vs. BCS teams – 3 and 8 (27%)
Hawaii vs. non AQ/non WAC teams – 3 and 3 (50%)
Hawaii vs. WAC teams – 15 and 9 (62.5%)
Hawaii vs. all opponents w/Mack as HC – 25 and 20 (55.5%)
Hawaii vs. FBS opponents w/Mack as HC – 21 and 20 (51%)
Jones (2005 – 2007):
Hawaii vs. FCS teams – 3 and 0 (100%)
Hawaii vs. BCS teams – 3 and 6 (33%)
Hawaii vs. non AQ/non WAC teams – 3 and 0 (100%)
Hawaii vs. WAC teams – 19 and 5 (79%)
Hawaii vs. all opponents w/Jones as HC – 28 and 11 (71%)
Hawaii vs. FBS opponents w/Jones as HC – 25 and 11 (69%)
Chris Peterson:
BSU vs. FCS teams – 2 and 0 (100%)
BSU vs. BCS teams – 5 and 0 (100%)
BSU vs. non AQ/non WAC teams – 11 and 1 (92%)
BSU vs. WAC teams – 23 and 1 (96%)
BSU vs. all opponents w/Peterson as HC – 41 and 2 (95%)
BSU vs. FBS opponents w/Peterson as HC – 39 and 2 (95%)
Cocobean hit it on the head.
What coach Mack has had the misfortune of doing is speaking high and showing less than quality results when it counted most.
Coach Gib made no big promises or lofty statements of his offense or defense, he just stated that the team will play and play a hard nose up tempo game, and when playeres did not perform up to his standards, he benched them.
Coach Mack has not been consistent in what he says and what shows up and that is what keeps the notorious fair weather UH football fan from jumping on the band wagon. When there’s a hiccup like UNLV the pessimism rises and it takes along, long time for the fair weather fan to jump back aboard. Call it unfair but that’s the deck he’s playing with.
People went to Tomey’s games when he was coach because he stated he was a defensive minded coach and he showed it consistently. People hated his 3 yeards and a cloud of dust offense but he was true to his word about his defense and for the most part his special team play. He never said his offense would not put you to sleep but he always made it such that we could count on his defense to do something spectacular to keep us in the game.
There was that evenness. You just do not get that from this team and when they disappoint, they really disappoint.
So, no buns in seats has folks on the Hill worried. That is revenue and if that does not compute, like the guy or not, it’s business. They want to get someone who can get those seats filled.
Not a coach hater, just a realist who sees the math and right now it does not translate to a top of the line salary. Someone made a point to say that Peterson and Hill took cuts. That also plays.
kawika49: Mahalo for the service you rendered to Hawai`i and America. I was too young to serve at that time. This blog is about UH Football and my suggestion is for community relations with our local based armed forces and how it benefits UH. I appreciate your input. Aloha
#173,
might as well aim as high as you can, SEC and hope that you can reach mid-level PAC12.
Dunno about Power Ratings…
To me, Big Time is when the ESPN Program Director has your AD’s Phone Number on his Speed Dial.
#179 – haha
If you run things in the Athletic Department like a business, then shouldn’t the head coach’s for every sport be based on a percentage of total revenue (PPV included) + performance?
#179,
I disagree. I think “Big Time” means when they keep UH’s helmet on the desk during the Scott Van Pelt show or Mike and Mike.
175 – Moniz is a really good college QB, but those stats for Jones and Peterson seem to contain the Colt Brennan and Kellen Moore years…and those guys are at another level. Jones and Peterson are pretty good coaches too though.
Big Time is when you have a waiting list for season tickets.
#183,
Peterson is “PRETTY” good? lol…I guess so, he hasn’t won a national championship yet.
Big Time is when the student section if bigger than a couple of sections, and filled.
Big time…consistently threatening or breaking into the Top 25, average attendance ~40,000, and more people than just bloggers get this amped about Warrior football.
Just don’t put us on Madden’s EASPORTS Football cover.
185 – C’mon…you think the guy could accomplish anything without Kellen Moore and that damn blue turf??
I kid of course.
Darren…
Yep.. big time would mean more supporters and a much larger fan base. But that’s a tall order in a geographically limited land mass. Too bad we can’t get the military here to adopt our team.
Big time, is when your head football coach is interviewed on ESPN radio every week.
frackin typo.
Big Time is big budgets, deep pockets, bulging wallets.
191 – We must be in the Big Time since Mack is usually on BC and/or the Animals at least once a week. ESPN1420 counts, right??!!??
For the big BCS schools I don’t think it much matters who is head coach. The boosters who fund the program and hand money out under the table will still be there. It’s the mid-majors who feel the pain. Not so much because athletes are concerned about playing for the same coach for four years but because the continuity of recruiting efforts can be lost in one fell swoop. madeinhawaii is correct that a long range succession plan must be in place NOW or we could face a lost decade that will leave us running around like a headless chicken during this time of conference realignment.
#193 – Hey we made it!
Also, Hawaii’s wealth is tied to the land. It’s not a liquid asset or a readily spendable asset. So while it may seem like we have a lot of millionaires in our midst, many are really middle class with large mortgages and huge bills to pay. The other millionaires only winter here.
Except for Pride. I hear he has plenny kala…
Big time is when the alumni can fire the school president, AD and head football coach.
PRIDE #175,
What were you trying to prove? You posted Mac’s FIRST 3 years and compared it to JJ’s LAST 3 years?
How about Mac beating a nationally rank team on the road (Fresno State) and JJ never did?
How about Mac playing back-to-back non-conference games 3 years in a row and JJ never did?
OK, here’s a couple for JJ…at least he won a Hawaii Bowl game or at least he made it to a BCS game (we would’ve never made it if it weren’t for our terrible schedule that year).
Big Time is when your cherleaders are on the cover of …………….oh never mind.
I would not complain if someone wanted to give me $500,000
a year to coach UH.
But I suppose Taxes eat up almost half of that…
Ala wai, kalamai. Do you realise how many successful 100 442 peaple there are and would support the team? They are resident not transient. thats all brother. You would be surprised of how much support, the prgram would get politically amd financially.
#174, What I’m saying is Gib has created a buzz that has the potential to grow into a roar. BB fans have been hungry for a winner. Any hint of success rouses the curiosity of fans who have fallen off of the season ticket wagon to maybe hopping back on. I am a season tkt holder for FB and BB. Every year I’ve seen LTSTHs(longtimeseasonticket holders) give up their seats in both sports. I have no proof this will happen but I believe BB season tickets and attendance will increase this year. I think the money people at UH believe this too.
That’s one reason I say Gib has leverage. One “okay” season by Gib after several down years have many fans fired up about the future.,
Like buying a boat, if you have to ask ‘What is Big Time?’….
Big time is when every game is a sell out and people scalp their tickets at a high price.
I will continue to say that the UH admin should not be waiting to extend Coach Mack’s contract. I agree with those who see how well Coach Mack fits into our program and his focus to make sure his athletes stay focused on getting their degree. I think having a 10 and 3 record last year would have deserved a contract extension. By the way the Indianapolis Colts are struggling with quarterback injuries. I think if we all sent emails to the Colts organization on behalf of Colt Brennan maybe they will give Colt a look. http://www.webmaster@colts.com
Unfortunately Hawaii is notorious for fair weather fan ship…case in point 2007 we didn’t start selling out until the final 3 games of the season….What gets to me about the whole Mack thing is people don’t mention that We Won the WAC last year when we were predicted to finish 5th….As for doing what he says when he took over he had 3 goals…Win the WAC(Check),Graduate his players(Check) and get us back to a BCS bowl…so he accomplished 2 of his 3 goals but is still chastised because a loss to UNLV….the loss sucks but the somner we get over it the better…I mean JJ lost to Portland St and Florida Atl at home no less those to me should be considered more embarrassing losses especially when Portland State blew us out at Home…
Some things that I found while looking back at Mack’s record as head coach since 2008.
Against teams that have an end of season power ranking in the top 80, UH is 9-16. Top 50, is 2-10. Both of those wins were at home, against #13 Nevada (2010) and #35 Navy (2009).
Hawaii’s average powering ranking from 2008, including our current 74 is 65. Note that 74 is only Div 1A teams, if you include Div 1AA teams, we are 77 with Georgia Southern, Appalachian St and Delaware ranked ahead of us.
http://realtimerpi.com/football/ncaaf_Men.html
Big Time is When all the fans know what color to wear to the games…lol….also when they do a College Gameday Segment from Manoa or Aloha Stadium…
Bryson:
You are so right, how quickly we forget what happened in the past.
#210 – You gotta put da color on the ticket, so day know. Das how Boise State get da blue and orange sections, da color stay on da ticket.
Big Time is when other schools piggyback on your Pro Day to make sure scouts show up.
Maybe the UH art department could design a
UH dollar bill and sell it…
I remember in the old days, a lot of people bought
“Hawaii” coins not necessarlily legal tender but just
nice looking.
Big Time is when you don’t have to ask if you are Big Time.
Big Time is when the beat writer posts on his blog, ‘NFL Scouts were at practice today’, you know he was just mailing it in.
JJ has an important game against TCU this weekend.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2567/southern-methodist-mustangs
Big time is wearing a Rolex.
Big Time involves the plural of beat writer.
A win this week against LaTech will be bigtime. That’s a tough place to win.
Big time is 20 years in the slammer.
Big time was spending time watching Big Bird…
Pau. Time to prepare supper.
Big Time is when your dang mascot knows when to pipe down!!!
Yes, is there a problem with that?
#225 – Useless information.
Big time is when we get at least 3-6, 4-5 star recruits and the State’s best players each year.
Unfortunately, big time would also mean most of us cannot afford season tickets along the sidelines
Big time is when big time teams want to play you because it helps their ranking…and not worry about who is paying to fly over the pond Big time? Benefit outweigh expense).
Big time is when fans come out to see you.. and not Notre Dame.
I’ve read every comment. I’ve come to the conclusion that a lot of people need a life.
OR USC… etc
Wotboddahyou:
You got extra?
#231 – I agree with you. Some of those guys gotta get it going.
Big Time is when you get a lap dance from Koa-mahu. 😯
Wow Lau Lau! Never hear so much pilikia about coaches from da peanut gallery. Thinkin we all grown ups who love the program. Apparently some just make the big talk, do nothing, knowing they are safe in the TS-ohana. Ain’t all bad, but sure ain’t all good.
#235…Hawaiianbod…MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA Where is gramps???? Ask him…
slenzi: Hawaiianbod:
last time I heard criticism like that was from Frazier backers when Frazier was getting the boot.
Pride…yeah, you know us middle campus guys….
BIG TIME. It’s up to the fans.
Big time fans = big time program. Players, coaches, Ads, chancellors, presidents come and go. It’s the fan support at the Big Time programs that remain the same, win or lose. Against ranked opponents or D2 schools they show up.
Big Time is when you don’t have to ask for money. It just flows to you.
Big time is pounding 83 buffalo wings in less than 20 minutes. Been there, done that. Still neva win the prize though.
BIK 🙂
Big Time is when Nike treats you with class. Lol
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WINNER:
Big Time is when the HC can tell the Pilot, “OK, now you can shut the door and take-off.”
and….
“keep the meter running.”
after it lands.
bik…i have new found respect for your consumption talents.
big time is but one thing…a full house for every home game no matter who the opponent is.
can we get there with this regime?
15 Yard penalty. #49. Double Foul. Unsportsmanlike conduct, unnecessary roughness, taunting and cyber bullying.
Das not the kind of pipeline to Texas that we need. But it wouldn’t hurt… big time.
Hope some of the University of Houston’s offensive firepower rubbed off on the Warriors when they practiced tonight. Houston beat UTEP 49-42 tonight. I like our chances against anyone if we score 49.
and i won’t take any excuses like the “economy is bad”.
folks are still spending money on entertainment like ipads, iphones, xbox, playstation, theatres, netflix, and the like.
al,
I dunno.. we couldn’t do it with JJ… Mack will take a few more years.. maybe when Comcast kills PPV.
Matt,
I dunno.. I don’t like our chances against anyone that scores 42, though.
Big Time is when you don’t have to ask and dream about what Big Time is.
I’m hoping our Warriors can contain La Tech’s offense.. and get the ball back to our Offense.
40k+ with regularity in the Tomey era
d1shima..
We didn’t have PPV.. with PPV $$ type head count we are well over that amount.
must have been some intelligent people you were breaking bread with.
okay so top 30 consistently is tough to achieve but that would be a sign of a solid program. however, to do so one must win consistently at that level and in games that mean something.
You’re right….
I’m sure nobody watches Notre Dame on TV. No wonder they always sell-out.
I guess the “big time” discussion period is over?
Case Keenum threw for 471 tonite against UTEP in a 49-42 track meet.
d1shima…
Cart before the horse. Hawaii started selling PPV before they sold out the stadium regularly..maybe, had they waited a few years till the house was almost full again..
mih…the way we ended that glorious season with consecutive sellouts against quality opponents bsu and uw was a sign of what could be with a great program playing a quality schedule.
who knows what could’ve, would’ve, should’ve had we not squandered that impetus that was building?
Keys to the game at LaTech. Zero turnovers and ST points allowed. Defense – Contain and rattle the Frosh QB. Defense – Conceal coverage to force mistakes and turnovers. Offense -Protect MO. Run block enough to force LT to get out of their 4-2-5. Take the passes underneath, block down field to increase YAC.
If they made the PPV package so that only the away and a half the home games were included with special added costs for the remaining “premium” games, maybe more fans would show up for those “premium” games and get hooked on the live experience.
ppv is a success. its for those of you who have never witnessed a game at the aloha with all the fanfare and entertainment, or not a big time fan to come watch the games live and in person.
okay, and for those who are physically unable to attend without discomfort.
its also all about the product.
the product has got to be top notch, does all the right things, wins the big ones, yada, yada….
Are there still hundreds of parking stalls at the Stadium that cannot be used?
Please don’t bring up EV only parking. 👿
#250:Al My generation will take the blame for not selling out Aloha Stadium on a regular basis,as the old timers who can no longer make it to the stadium give up their season tickets peoe in my generation are too infatuated with nice uniforms and band wagon jumping….Too often now are people in my generation backing the ducks and the Trojans instead of the Home team…I told my GF when we have kids they are only allowed to watch UH football and when they come to the games no Nintendo DS,No PSP,the only thing they get to pay attention to is what’s happening on the field….and the same goes for sons and daughters…
#266: The only reason and it is an unfortunate one that we sold out the last 2 games that season Al is because we were winning…if we had 1-2 losses and no BCS bowl on the line I don’t think we sell out…and that brings me back to the point of How Can UH identify with it’s Fans?
PPV brings revenue to the school. It allows those senior fans of old to see the games, since they can no longer get to the stadium. Attendance is a victim of the economy and a large percentage of population on fixed non-inflation adjusted income.
When Aloha Stadium first opened the number of corporate block seats was substantial. One auto company took nearly the entire orange seats in one section in the South end zone. It was always full as they were used as incentives within the company and for customers. A UH game was The place to be on a Fall Saturday. Today ticket prices have escalated. Parking is now elitist. Food and Beverage is expensive. The Core audience has aged and passed on. There are many entertainment options available on any given Saturday. The student fan base has dwindled. The Old Stadium mauka stands were packed by students making up 1/5th of the fans. One fifth of AS today would be 10,000 students. Even in 2007 our greatest season, how many sell-outs did we have? The math today doesn’t add up unless you build a new fan core group or more diversity.
Geez….
I guess people in Happy Valley, Lincoln, Eugene, and Gainesville never get old and can keep on going to games forever and ever.
Lucky dem…the tickets must be cheap!
Poo ting though, no mo nothing else fo’ do ovah dea….
Pay per view should be terminated. I believe not having the games shown live on television will bring an increase in the fans attending the games. Football, baseball, basketball and volleyball will all have their turnstile count increase especially if they are winning.
Do the math, average for football can increase by 10,000, men’s basketball can increase by 2,000 to 3,000, baseball can increase by 800 to 1,000 (Sellout). Multiply the dollar per ticket average for those particular sports and you will have more than the pay perview revenues.
Base on potential tickets sold UH could coordinate certain games to be shown for added exposure and revenue to help lure fans to future games.
Thus if UH gets the short end of the TV agreements with the Mountain West and the Big West, no need to worry cause the attendance will increase as long as they have a winning product.
ST posted this poignant thought yesterday to which speaks volumes of who we are as fans:
“…You can’t help how you feel, but you can dictate how you act.”
Too often we let our emotion dictate how we act or react. Once we overcome this we will then be on our way to the BIG TIME.
But, change doesn’t start with everybody. Change starts first with you.
Of course, Hawaii get turr-bul conditions so nobody should expect the fans to turn out in this kine conditions….Temp in the 80’s and clear skies.
Hoo! Imagine if had something real bad like one tornado come thru a few months before kick-off!
You think we could get 101,821 fans to attend one game? No way! Nobody could!
Especially not for one mid-major opponent!
http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2011-2012/ua090311.html
Das da other thing, eh? Mid-major opponents… we need major opponents.
Insofar as mid-majors go, how do we stand in terms of attendance?
So how did practice go today?
Yeh! Who going come for watch Kent State? 🙄
Those that remember..
“Tin soldiers and Nixon’s coming.. 4 dead in Ohio…”
And annoddah ting (not Dave)
Why gotta keep so many rules at the Stadium? Dat hurts attendance when you prohibit da good stuff like liquor, guns, weapons, fireworks….
So….
open carry is good in Lincoln? 😯
One more thing that has nothing to do with being a fan or not… Hawaii people hate paying for parking. If they can find it free they will. It’s a conditioning that is hard to break. They don’t like traffic jams, parking fees, and riding the bus. Fix those and you got a winner.
And parking at the Stadium sucks.
Yep.
Big time means no need worry about parking.
I’m sure traffic flows smoothly around Lincoln on Game Day.
But they sure take care the disabled in Nebraska.
Mack deserves an extention, only question is at what salary.
When JJ announced he was leaving for a greener pasture there was a sense of disbelief. Most like myself thought he’d be here until he retired. Disbelief soon turned to anger and a woe is us feeling, back to the Von Appen days. I feel at that time Mack was the most “comforting” choice. He represented continuity – same offense with a posiblity of a better defense. Problem was he inherited a rebuilding not a reloading situation.
After three and a third seasons he’s had his ups and downs. To his credit he did maintain a sense of continuity. To his credit he’s put together a solid staff of old war horses and young up and comers. He’s done his job well enough to deserve an extention. Nothing exceptional but nothing disastrous.
HIs biggest downside is he was at the helm at some of the programs most embarrassing moments.
Sounds like all this stuff is so much hassle! Who like even go watch them live?
against that “Big Time” opponent…..
Tennessee!
…at Chattanooga.
http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPID=22&DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=205266033
Love to all… Mr. Kymry is preparing to move to the “next level”, please remember Kymry and ohana in your thoughts and prayers and help lift him up…
Mahalo, Ke Akua.
big time power ranking can be from 1 – 95, but it does not matter – only thing that matters is how you define big time as witnessed by all the recent posts
will big time make you happy? that’s all that counts!
based on the responses, it reminds me of the many ways to eat a french fry – just “be happy, don’t worry”.
now, for the serious definition – nah, I’m too tired.
God bless Mr. Kymry and his family. My prayers go out to him and his family.
Gary:
peace and prayers to you and your entire family!
296…yep. amen.
if i recall correctly…that 17 year old starting qb for la tech sent a video to the university of hawaii football office.
not sure how far it got. i remember watching his highlight reel many times over and was very impressed. my impression if you will was….wow, this kid got it. i don’t think he even got to first base with the hawaii contingent.
i was shocked that hawaii didn’t offer a two for one package since they were heavily recruiting his main target nelson spruce who even came here for a visit.
hey, did i get the magical 300 without even trying?
Looks like UH vs LaTech will be on ESPN3 7PM EDT.
http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/source/espn3/
Also looks like the Toronto Argonauts (Chad Owens’ team) is playing at the same time on ESPN3. I can finally use that multi screen setup in ESPN3.
Re: Contracts.
It’s just not good manners to cry poverty when it comes to Mack’s contract, then turn around and offer a 44 percent raise to Arnold.
If they don’t like Mack, they should say they don’t like him.
Interesting that the Big East bylaws will let TCU completely avoid the 27-month exit time that the rest of the Big East schools are being held to. Since they weren’t in the Big East on July 1, they still have to pay the $5 mil but they can play in any conference next season. I think that changes things for Big 12 expansion and for the health of the Big East.
http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/09/29/3408229/expanding-east-or-west-big-12.html
The Big 12 sure didn’t try to dampen the speculation about BYU and BSU…
Wilner tweet. He sure isn’t holding his twitter feed to any journalistic standard.
http://twitter.com/#!/wilnerhotline/status/119560309106159616
The timing of this is really bad, with Cincy one of the schools under consideration for Big 12 expansion. This could help open the door for BSU, even though BSU is also under probation.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7036600/ncaa-places-cincinnati-two-year-probation-violations
By the way, Scott Harding tweets.
The LA Times is expecting to report a really bad fourth quarter and apparently has just 3-5 years of printing the hard copy newspaper before they are online only! I actually get the LA Times delivered to my house every day and get 2 copies delivered on Sunday, so this would be a big change for me…
http://fryingpannews.org/2011/09/23/paper-tiger-qa-with-l-a-times-pressman-ed-padgett/
I am looking forward to seeing the game on Saturday…Ruston is such a hard place to play and this is probably the last time that UH will face La Tech in Ruston.
It is really nice that UH got to practice in Houston’s indoor practice facility. They were able to get their work in, very important.
I thought that the Big 12 would go to 12 schools, but if the rumors are true that they are looking at going t 14 schools then I think I might be wrong and iwonderwhy might be right about the death of the Big East…
Nice Ruston weather forecast for Saturday–high of 82, 0% chance of rain.
http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/vacationplanner/wxdetail/USLA0408?dayNum=1
wonder who “they” might be… Admin? Boosters?
hope it all works out – soon! would hate for him to say ahh hell with it, ship his horse to Tempe and finish up his career at ASU with Erickson winning the PAC 12ish and playing in a National Championship game.
Mr. Tsai: Regarding Mac’s contract. I agree. What’s the revenue production to salary ratio for Foot vs. Basket ball? Mac has a WAC championship and Gib has one 3rd place year. We need a fly on the wall to figure this out.
Garret:
That’s pretty unfortunate about the L.A. Times.
We just reached a five-year contract with the S-A.
ST,
The union at the LA times also has a long-term contract…I feel badly for their workers. I hope that the economy in Hawaii improves as that directly dictates advertising rates and impacts the S-A, UH, and so many other things.
I pay for 2 subscriptions to the LA Times, I’ve done my little part but it obviously isn’t enough.
Thanks for the pics, Stephen.
Phi Slamma Jamma! Cool!
No shrine to John Jenkins?
Was wondering, “Why Highsmith?”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alonzo_Highsmith
Almost all websites ought to be able to depend upon Level of quality Services by expert firms.
For Coach Tony’s sake I hope those practice “swims” are all well executed!
Wasn’t Highsmith at Miami when Mack was there?
Ahhhh, Phi Slamma Jamma, the team that got jammed by the GEORGETOWN HOYAS in the 1984 National Championship game!! 😀
(Hi brew!)
Nice feature on Samson in the Washington Post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/sateles-block-during-moores-td-typifies-raiders-spirit-of-building-a-bully/2011/09/29/gIQA9UD57K_story.html
Looks like the NCAA will increase scholarship values to cover the true cost of attendance. $2000 per year maximum is actually less than the $500/month increase that had been talked about earlier.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/story/2011-09-28/ncaa-cost-of-attendance/50594680/1
The NCAA is also looking to raise GPA requirements and make it so that athletes cannot make up their GPA problems in their senior year to get eligible.
David Ishii a Houston Cougar – on a National Championship team! wow, thanks did not know that.
Good observation d1shima. I was there. But as I recall, there was no live TV and all the games started at 7:30 pm at Aloha Stadium.
No one should wonder why season ticket sales and attendance is down when you broil half the stadium in sun by starting games at 5:00pm or earlier. Many of those old timers who don’t whip of their shirts and worry about sun burn have migrated to PPV heaven.
I would not blame Mac or the teams for declining season ticket sales over the years and the empty seats across the camera on the mauka side when the game starts. You’ve seen this at the Pro Bowl for many years.
If we lose PPV money, maybe moving games to 7:00 or 7:30 pm again would help attendance or at least sales.
#327
So the NCAA wants to make it tougher to get into college. I guess the NCAA wants to make sure the major BCS schools limit their under the table payoffs to players who are actually college material. All this while the NCAA remains silent on over recruiting.
today, by coincidence i was telling a former uh olineman how back in his days the stadium regularly had 45k in attendance.
he reminded me that there was no espn to broadcast games all day and all week so the tomey led teams were the only game in town.
however, if i recall correctly there may have been at least one live broadcast per saturday.
ST,
Re: #303,
I didn’t believe what I was reading this morning in regards to Gib’s contract…then comparing that to what I’ve been hearing about Mac’s contract!
I certainly hope Mac gets paid comparable to what the football team brings in (revenue wise)…Gib is definitely getting more than what his programs is bringing in (and I like Gib).
Sorry to say, but I’m starting to lose faith in our AD.
I’m guessing the biggest decline in attendance occurred after Bob Wagner was fired and even June Jones was not able to bring the crowd back. Many of those people who filled the stadium during the 1980’s and 1990’s are in their eighties. They aren’t coming back. It’s no secret we need to get the youngsters to the games to build a future base.
#331
Could be, but I remember back then the were more fans who took pride in being a fan of the Rainbow Football Team.
Didn’t know that I was 80 years old 🙂
Interesting History of UH home attendance in 1986 under HC Dick Tomey when we finished 6-6.
Written by Ferd Lewis in 2006 and averaged 40,000.
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Nov/16/sp/FP611160349.html
Year by year W-L records for Hawaii Football
http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/fetch-team.pl?team=Hawaii
el burro sabio,
Maybe you’re just having as senior moment.. gotta check your I.D. 😉
Prayers for Kymry… et al…
brother Gary Aoki i pray for your salvation and dedicate Psalm 23 in your honor. Amen.
Papa’s BBQ, Papadeauxs, Papacitos. All the great Papa flavors of da H.
BIK
As Donovan has stated, the PPV revenues added to ticket sales is like selling out the house for every home game, regardless of who the Warriors are playing… That’s the equivalent of 10,000 seats over Tomey. So, using head count really is not a fair assessment.
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Best Big time? A-Joe’s which basically states…..
Big time is not worrying about being big time.
I love it. Almost as good as a coffee table book on coffee tables.
BIK
Prayers for Gary. Namu Amida Butsu
1981 was a fun season. lots of fans +42k and energy in the stadium every week – cept for maybe the let down game vs Pacific Tigers. Man our defense was good!
Having a sellout in any stadium or arena creates a fantastic atmosphere and energy for the home team. If the increase in attendance makes up for the PPV money which do you think the players would want. In addition wouldn’t the concessions love it too. PPV is killing attendance.
Prayers for Gary Aoki on his “last train ride”. Love to Kymry and the ‘ohana.
Mahalo for the pictures, ST! I really miss good BBQ.
Went to the WVB game after hula. Fast game! Got there for the last set. Saw chawan_cut. Saw W-Doc walking along the concourse as I went in. Not too bad a crowd for a Thursday. There should be more people attending Saturday night’s game.
ST nice pics of the Dream.
346 – you on your way to big time
Thanks for the love, guys. Kymry and her youngest son are staying with Gary thru the night… mainland family has had time to visit… Mahalo Ke Akua for giving the Warriors the W at our last tv-gate.
There is a funny story about Gary and Coach Mack but that is for another time…
Aloha to Kymry and Gary.
The fact that ST has been saying “If UHAD doesn’t think Mack is the man, they should name someone else already” has got me thinking that maybe money is not the biggest issue.
Lots of subliminal messages on this one?…Hmmmmmm
Love and prayers, Gary and Kymry.
Aloha Brother Gary. See you on the heavenly links someday. Me ke aloha pumehana.
catching up on the reading and noticed koa-JJ-hu giving lap dances. typical since gov’t furloughs shim needs to make some income from somewhere else.
sincerest comfort to Kymry and Gary in their time of solace.
Howzit KK! So. what really is the truth between you, J (J), and Koa-mahu? inquiring minds want to know.
Auwe! Eternal rest grant unto Gary – my deepest sympathy to Kymry and their ohana.
james in denile and not talking about the river in Egypt. secretly trying to cause subliminal messages while keeping low profile.
btw who is the inquiring mind?
how you operating these days?
iwwthm #353 what does you subliminal cards indicate?
Bringing back the games to 7:30 might add to the attendance since a lot of people in Hawaii have to work on Saturdays. Try getting to the stadium and finding parking if you pau work at 4:30 or 5:00. Try gathering the family and getting there in time plus no moa time to tailgate with the family. Gotta eat there since no more time to buy takeout since gotta rush to the game. Auwe with the prices of food and drinks. Besides with the games now starting at 6, isn’t it like 1 am on the east coast and the media is closed for the night? Complaints were by the time the game finishes at 5 am EST,the newspapers’ deadline had long passed so we couldn’t make the Sunday papers. Von Appen, wife works night shift now, ticket increases, parking mess, was part of the reasons why I gave up my season tickets. I am a PPV man now and may be spoiled.
#277. The wheelchair section at Aloha Stadium (the one that goes around the concourse) has a long waiting list. The handicap stalls for parking is definitely limited. There is a long waiting time for the carts to come around to take physically handicapped people to the gate.
We could adopt Jonathan Swift’s “A Modest Proposal” but the liberals might object to the killing of the handicap and elderly – as would I as I am in that category. I suppose one could wait until the wee hours of the night but that is when the elderly usually are in bed, or wait until Sunday morning and skip church or whatever.
On the other hand, to avoid any of the above, we should keep PPV.
Moving the game back to 7:30 would give the Warriors an even greater home advantage. That wouldn’t hurt.
#361,
Well I know UHAD is strapped for cash and needs to balance the books. But does anyone really think that $250,000 is a HUGE problem worth holding back a contract that has major implications with the future of our program?
I’m willing to bet that the $$$ of the contract can EASILY be reached. However its not the biggest problem and might not even be the real problem.
I kinda sense this “we want you, we just don’t value you” thing going on.
MIH #364, I haven’t thought of that. Yes it would. Why not? If we paying for charter flights, then the visiting teams can leave after the game at their convenience (12:30, 1am) or stay a night and help the visitor industry.
Prayers for our good friend and dedicated Warrior fan, Gary. Condolences to sistah Kymry in her hour of need. Aloha Ke Akua.
Mai poina.
iwwthm your deck is stacked to bad you dont play pokemon lol
#368,
Saving dat fo Saturday. Are you going to come out??? Or staying home???
IWWTHM,
I get that same feeling, too. And that bothers me. Has McMackin been pushing too hard for certain improvements… changes that we are not aware of? Are the upper campus bigwigs trying to suppress the news and avoid public sympathy while muscling in their demands?
since UH moved its games earlier to accommodate all the soothsayers has any positive come out of it. Has there been a positive reaction by the east coast and has UH gotten better press? I still hear complaints from the other teams about the travel and how it messes up their schedules. So those in the know what is it?
wow iwwthm is that an invite and where you going to be?
❀ ✞ ❤ (((( Gary & Kymry)))) ❤ ✞ ❀
#372,
Thought you was going with UHFan808?
Re: #324 –
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What – you like fight!?! 😯
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UH College of Education is making their calls again for donations, again … I’m not happy with the way upper campus is doing business so I think I’ll pass on any donations there.
#370,
Yep. More to it ah? 🙂
I’m going to put this as simply as possible.
If UH wanted Coach Mack really badly, we wouldn’t be talking about and speculating about his contract right now this LATE and jeopardizing the future of the program for no reason.
F-A-I-T-H ? Does it exist?
Hoya – Hiya – Ho-there Brew!
soothsayers
what u talking?
One of the things that make me proud of the Warriors is their graduation rate. Winning too, but something just makes smile when I hear that all these players are graduating. Some of them are graduating even before their eligibility clock runs out. Way to go Warriors. So what’s wrong with Mack’s contract?
i’m wondering if the aloha stadium is in violation of current ada requirements?
soothsayer n who foretell events
those who predicted good things to happen if changes were adapted. has it?
al,
i highly doubt it. one of the highest profile state facility. if it wasn’t in compliance, the attorney who is in the wheelchair and makes it a point to sue the city/state would already have filed suit.
someone said he was related to Stan Sheriff like a nephew or something.
since UH moved its games earlier to accommodate all the foretellers of events has any positive come out of it.
what u talking?
#385,
He is referring to whether or not the move in game time has affected our perception/coverage by media/analyst etc on the east coast or probably mainland in general.
Al
Re: #382
I’m looking into that. If they blew the compliance issue in my case…they may end up renaming it Kekoa Field at Aloha Stadium. You’re all invited to choose your seats if that happens!
somehow the number of parking stalls and game viewing accomodations just do not seem appropriately proportionate to the total number of parking stalls and regular seats.
obviously as tommui stated there seems to be a high demand for said accomodations. what then is the solution?
perhaps ppv paid for by the landlord of the facility would appease our handicap fellow warrior fans who are denied viable arrangements.
(hey tommui you like this one, no?)
385 see 386
388 out now
opps 389 out now
re: ADA PARKING
State law requires parking lots with 1001 parking spaces or more to have 20 ADA stalls PLUS 1 for every 100 regular stalls over 1000.
So for instance, if Aloha Stadium had 1100 parking stalls, they must provide 21 ADA stalls.
When looking for an ADA stall at the last game, there were 200+ ADA stalls.
G’night, gang!
Prayers for Gary Aoki, Kymry and ‘ohana. A peaceful night to them.
Healing energy to all of our ailing Warriors and Tsickos…nah, you know…you Tsaikos…
Manana… (too late & lazy to look up the tilde)
The best suggestion I have is to go as soon as the gate opens to get ADA parking.
Doing so is no guarantee, but I find it works best.
I haven’t asked if cars would be allowed to drop off handicapped passengers near the entrance if the ADA stalls are filled. If this isn’t allowed, it might be a good idea/policy to implement.
New batch of chx soup on the stove… no more c-cough syrup… yuck… side effects are worse than the cough.
Dear Aloha Stadium Authority,
There is a growing population of aging customers that need handicap access both in the Stadium and in the Parking Lot. Please do the right thing.
Mahalo and aloha,
Liz (yellow for last year) Kauai
Al ~ The issue was not availability of stalls. After double checking all my credentials, they still sent me (and my carload of wounded warriors) further away from the ADA stalls. My argument fell on deaf ears and their fall back position was, “it’s our new parking policy.” For the lawyers in our midst, does that sound like compliance with the ADA law? I would argue that Federal law would take precedence over local policy.
Judge Mui, your thoughts sir.
what about the number of ada compliant seats/spaces to view the game?
kekoa…let me understand this.
you were denied ada parking?
or
were the handicap stalls offered to you somewhat far away from the gates that it would not be considered as being so accomodating for one with a decided disability?
almost 400 before nitey nite time!
iwwthm…i didn’t realize that you required a handicap stall.
400
Dear Aloha Stadium,
Please designate the ADA parking CLOSE to the STADIUM.
Mahalo!
Nitey Nite and Tsweet Warrior Dreams!
#395,
Federal law trumps state/local laws. However the local/state laws here are even more stringent than Federal laws.
Just one example is the fact that handicap placard holders do not have to pay city parking meter fees.
If the stadium folks told you that you CANNOT park in an ADA stall when there were ADA stalls available and you showed your ID + Placard, you were denied due process and uh-oh on the stadium authority folks.
If you did all the above but there were no ADA stalls available that’s a totally different story. Note that in past years they let ADA people park along side the parking aisle “buffers” when regular ADA stalls were filled. This has not been renewed, most likely because parking along side those areas do not meet the state requirements as an ADA compliant parking stall.
What’s more, it gets even more complicated. Lets say you bought the $250 pass. Well when you buy a pass, regardless of having a handicap card you CANNOT park in the ADA stalls unless you pay the additional $5 entry fee. You are only allowed to park in reserved stalls. (This was a major issue one of our tailgating guys had the last game).
al,
i don’t. although i tried they denied me saying that having a mental handicap does not qualify.
my dad, uncle, and grandparents were/is handicapped.
The MWC’s commissioner is openly talking about how Air Force is talking with the Big East. Normally when discussions are publicly acknowledged (BSU to the MWC, Texas A&M to the SEC, etc.) things are pretty far along in the discussions.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/sep/29/mountain-west-waiting-game-air-force/
Another article about the MWC/CUSA merger talks.
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2011/sep/30/c-usa-talks-to-mwc-on-football-plan/
I hadn’t seen the other potential NCAA rule changes discussed here. Raising the APR is good for UH since it won’t hurt UH but might hurt other schools. Reducing football scholarships by 5 would save schools money which would help UH, but it would also reduce 5 women’s scholarships.
Interesting how men’s basketball recruiting correlates so strongly to the Final Four. Over the last 36 Final Four teams, only Butler and George Mason didn’t have a top 100 recruit. Going by the Final Fours over the past 10 years, I’m guessing that the correlation is even stronger on the women’s basketball side.
http://basketball.realgm.com/article/215761/Are_Elite_High_School_Recruits_Necessary_To_Reach_The_Final_Four
M ❤ M
As Kekoa knows don’t get me started on ADA………
Concerning the Unit patches worn by ARMY… this is what I got from my friend, Mr. Morse, who just retired as their Bandmaster a month ago:
Another old Army buddy confirms that the football team used to wear the unit patch of the unit to which they are assigned after successful completion of courses at the academy.
And here’s something I found on the NCAA’s rules regarding memorial/commemorative patches:
“Can my team wear a memorial/commemorative patch?” It’s at the bottom of page one, and continues onto page two.
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/2af28d804e0b978e900bf01ad6fc8b25/FAQ.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=2af28d804e0b978e900bf01ad6fc8b25
There’s stuff in there about noise makers, officials, etc. Glad I searched for it. Kinda interesting.
Good morning Tsaikos!!
Going back to my post earlier about UH going “Big Time”, it seems that people are saying that the crowd size is one of the determining factor. With bigger crowds, it creates a buzz around town and hopefully leads to more financial support.
Going back to my post #209
Is this type of record going to get us to the “Big Time”?? If we continued playing in the WAC, we might be able to get more wins against lower ranked teams. Is it only wins that will fill the stadium?? If so, if things stay the same, we better not move into the MWC.
This is the list of games under Mack and the end of year power rankings to the left.
1 8/30/2008 at Florida L 10-56
4 10/24/2009 Boise State L 9-54
5 11/6/2010 at Boise State L 7-42
8 10/17/2008 at Boise State L 7-27
13 9/13/2008 at Oregon State L 7-45
13 10/16/2010 Nevada W 27-21
18 12/6/2008 Cincinnati L 24-29
21 12/5/2009 Wisconsin L 10-51
27 9/2/2010 USC L 36-49
34 12/24/2010 Tulsa L 35-62
35 11/28/2009 Navy (Military Night) W 24-17
44 9/10/2011 at Washington L 32-40
52 10/10/2009 Fresno State L 17-42
53 10/31/2009 at Nevada L 21-31
54 12/24/2008 Notre Dame L 21-49
57 10/9/2010 at Fresno State W 49-27
58 10/25/2008 Nevada W 38-31
65 10/17/2009 at Idaho L 23-35
66 10/4/2008 at Fresno State W 32-29 (OT)
67 10/11/2008 Louisiana Tech (Homecoming) W 24-14
72 9/11/2010 at Army W 31-28
74 9/18/2010 at Colorado L 13-31
78 9/30/2009 at Louisiana Tech L 6-27
78 10/30/2010 Idaho (Homecoming) W 45-10
80 10/2/2010 Louisiana Tech W 41-21
84 9/27/2008 San Jose State L 17-20
85 10/23/2010 at Utah State W 45-7
88 9/19/2009 at UNLV L 33-34
91 11/7/2009 Utah State (Homecoming) W 49-36
99 11/1/2008 at Utah State L 14-30
104 12/4/2010 UNLV W 59-21
105 9/17/2011 at UNLV L 20-40
110 11/8/2008 at New Mexico State W 42-30
111 9/3/2011 Colorado W 34-17
112 11/21/2009 at San Jose State W 17-10 (OT)
112 11/20/2010 San Jose State W 41-7
114 11/29/2008 Washington State W 24-10
114 11/14/2009 New Mexico State W 24-6
114 11/27/2010 at New Mexico State W 59-24
119 11/22/2008 Idaho W 49-17
119 9/12/2009 at Washington State W 38-20
1AA 9/6/2008 Weber State W 36-17
1AA 9/4/2009 Central Arkansas W 25-20
1AA 9/25/2010 Charleston Southern W 66-7
1AA 9/24/2011 UC Davis W 56-14
Stretch,
I see your point, but I think that UH still can win quite a bit of games in the MWC. Nevada and Fresno are moving with UH, so that part of the conference will be the same for UH. We should also note these 3 MWC teams (though I’m biting my tongue on one of them):
Sagarin 2011 ELO-CHESS rating:
111 Colorado State
119 UNLV
177 New Mexico
I think that Big Time means that money doesn’t have to cast a shadow on everything a school’s Athletic Department does. It would be nice to give the coaches the salaries they deserve and quickly reward those who succeed. It would be nice to have facilities that are top-notch and maintained well. It would be nice to not to sacrifice a week of school and hurt the on-field performance due to travel cost concerns.
It would be nice not to have classrooms and labs where the roof leaks when it rains hard. It would be nice if the students could take the classes they are required to take for graduation instead of being forced to stay an extra year. And it would be nice if the tuition wasn’t going to be significantly raised soon and the already thin budgets on the Academic side could avoid the coming cruel budget cuts.
So to me, Big Time would be to have things as they *should* be instead of have everything limited due to money.
This is ESPN’s conference power rankings this season so far.
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/26691/big-12-unseats-sec-as-top-conference
MWC 6
WAC 11 (out of 11)
Great Morning All!
IS IT SATURDAY YET?
Hope the Warriors are ready to do some of their own “Cane raisin'” tomorrow.
Good to hear that Greg Alexander is improving and apparently is no longer needing more surgery.
Apparently Stretch is in research mode. I like it. Good stuff!
As much as I hate to say it, but Boise State has always had a limited athletic budget but it never affected their ability to get into a BCS bowl on several occasions.
Damn those Southern style ribs look good for breakfast.
Damn those gas prices look good.
Your right Shoko, Boise achieves on it’s on entity without a unlimited funding check
CoolEthan,
My thoughts precisely…the ribs and sausage for breakfast would be my choice.
Morning, gang!
Hope today’s walk-through is productive. Focus, focus, focus, and execute, Warriors!
GO WARRIORS!!!
Boise is one example, but *every* non-AQ school wants to be Boise State on the field and how many have achieved that?
Boise has a thriving high-tech industry where their companies can spend billions to buy other companies. If you have a smartphone or tablet, you are partially subsidizing the Boise economy, and since Boise residents (many of them Boise State grads) benefit from those $100+k jobs, fundraising is a little easier for Boise. Where is Hawaii’s high-tech industry–Hawaii started talking about attracting high-tech businesses *decades* before Boise did.
If you look in the USA Today’s database, Boise State spends about $2 mil *more* than UH on Athletics even though they have *significantly* less travel expenses and a much lower cost of living. You would have to add about $10 mil to UHAD’s budget to have the equivalent of Boise State’s budget…and if you did that, UHAD wouldn’t have its every step constrained by finances.
Remember, Chris Petersen was so concerned with Boise State’s Athletic budget cuts that he took a pay cut before the 2010 football season. Boise State definitely doesn’t have an unlimited funding check when someone like Petersen volunteers to take a pay cut!
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I don’t know if it was posted but there was comments about putting various Army patches such as the 442nd RCT or 25th Division on the helmets citing the Fresno “army unit patch”.
The “V” on the FSU helmet is a”representation of the San Joaquin Valley is displayed in the form of a green “V” on the back of the Bulldogs’ helmets. The green in the “V” is a symbol to the agricultural community of the Central Valley, which is the world’s richest agricultural area in export dollars. “
#395 KEKOA – didn’t see your posting till now.
Federal law pre=empts any state law. Sue ’em or write a “friendly” note to
Scott, preferably certified, return receipt requested pointing out the problem.
While they did not have a ceremony stripping me of a black muumuu, “Judge” is just an honorific – just call me Tom.
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Getting back to the handicap problem, JD had done his best – and did succeed in getting railings put it for some of the stairs.
The point that should be made is that getting rid of PPV does not necessarily mean an increase in people attending the games. And certainly it is a boon for people that cannot attend the games because of physical problems.
I suppose you could always ask the TV people not to permit various commercial establishments such as bars to get their signals for home games encouraging their patrons to go to the stadium but that opens another can of worms.
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It’s not wining, PPV, start time, traffic or parking that’s stopping people from going to the games it the type of fans Hawaii has, yes there are a lot of passionate fans(20,000 or so) but most of the people in Hawaii don’t really care one way or the other about Warrior Football or for that matter UH sports in general, sad yeah?
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I 2nd that emotion DPK! It’s out of respect for the person and the position that I call him da judge.
I’m taking the high road and sharing ideas with Scott to improve things. The hammer comes down only if they go deaf in one ear and blind in da oddah one!
As you should, Kekoa, on all counts and all matters pertaining to your issues. That whole thing sounds like a nightmare. Good luck to you, sir.
Pomai –
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I can’t find any articles stating that Petersen is making less than 1.28 million per year.. As far as I can see, the 600k on his contract is his buyout. Can someone post a link?
<blockquote.The State Board of Education unanimously approved a new five-year, $8 million contract for head football coach Chris Petersen. Under the contract, Petersen will make $1.28 million this year and an additional $200,000 if he is still head coach of the Broncos in February of next year.
Under his old contract, Petersen would have made $1.30 million this year and an additional $250,000 if he still holds his position in Feb. 2011.
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Petersen’s new contract features a $600,000 buyout, likely larger than the buyout in previous contract, but nowhere near large enough to stop a school from going after him. If there’s proof needed to show Petersen’s comfort on the job, his current contract comes with automatic one-year extensions for every season that the Broncos win over eight regular season games, practically guaranteeing him a job in Boise as long as he wants it. – http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/11/boises-petersen-takes-pay-cut-with-extension/
Pat Hill’s looks to be 850 guaranteed and some incentives..
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2010-12-07-pat-hill-coaches-salary-cover_N.htm
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Regarding Kekoa’s ridiculous handnicap parking spot at the stadium: I was with him and he had to park on the outside ring–6 parking stalls and the roadway away from Stretch’s tailgate stall. While we stopped to tailgate with them for a while, the walk down hill was far for Kekoa.
Walking on a downhill incline sounds easy, but with cane and folding chair as supports, it is a strain to avoid pitching forward and falling. A wheelchair will need good brakes. It took a long time to get to the gate and by the time we reached the escalator at Gate 4, he was shuffling with 8″-12″ steps and he looked like he was going to have a heart attack. i was really worried.
I was angry because putting the handicapped so far out was really stupid. But it looks like the inner ring parking is reserved for those who pay big $$$ for parking. There has to be a common sense/decency intervention here.
If and when Coach Mack retires or if UH not renew his contract, there will be no shortage of candidates to be Head Coach. Let’s go down the list.
1) Kenny Niumatalolo, Navy – not likely, he has a very good job at the Naval Acadamy.
2) Pau Johnson, Georgia Tech – no way, he’s from Georgia and he’s set where he is.
3) Urban Meyer, retired Florida Coach – are you kidding me, come on, man! Why would he stoop down to take a job at Hawaii, and he has a nice job at ESPN, ESPNU. No way, Jose.
4) Mike Leach, former Texas Tech coach – now, this is a very interesting dude. I’ve listened to him in many interviews and I like his philosopy. Coached at Oklahoma too and likes to throw the ball a lot. Don’t know if he wants to live in Hawaii since he is used to being in a BCS conference. He won’t be cheap. We’ll have to pay at least a million bucks or more, so I don’t think so.
5) June Jones, SMU – you know he likes Hawaii and he’ll retire on the Big Island at Hokulia. He has a nice thing going at SMU and his assistants have been doing a good job of recruting, especially Adriam Klemm who has been getting a lot of good players from California. Jones makes at least $2 million per year and he had a contract extension so I think he wants to make as much money as he can so he can retire comfortably. No way, Jose.
6) There is Gary Barnett out there the former Colorado coach, but I think he wouldn’t be interested in Hawaii and I don’t think the UH administrators would want him anyway.
7) There is Dan Hawkins out there, another former Colorado coach – I don’t think so, but you never know. He coached at Boise St. so he would be in the same conference as Boise St. in the MWC again. He does part time job at ESPNU to make some money right now, but I think he would want to coach again and he’s still quite young. He would be an interesting choice also. Maybe.
8) Mystery Candidate – I don’t want to mention his name, but I have a very good reliable source that this proven coach maybe would want to coach here. He’s very qualified and has coached on all levels. When I heard that name, I was quite stunned because I never thought about him before. However, I don’t want to mention his name.
Garret:
At the UNLV game, across the aisle from me, was a gentleman rooting for Hawaii. He is a Boise transplant of 2 years in Vegas. Only 2 teams he cheers for is Boise and Hawaii.
In our many conversations, he mentioned that many if not most of the BIG companies have pulled out or are pulling out of Boise leaving many worried of what will happen to their town.
He said the last to leave was a major “tech” company that moved its HQ and entire staff to California.
What impact will this have on the future of Boise St football?
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