Debt perception

Think UH’s money woes will go away anytime soon? Think again.

To cover deficits, the athletic department draws money from a fund that, in essence, is like a credit union. Several entities, such as RainBowTique, deposit their excess cash into the fund. The fund has covered the athletic department’s’ accumulated deficit of about $10 million. The department pays about $60,000 a year in interest.

Last month, a report suggested that the school should just forgive the loan that would be extremely difficult to pay back. Indeed, that would surely help the athletic department climb out of a  hole that was created by travel costs, salaries and benefits, and the obligation to fund sports that operate at losses.

But it’s not that simple. The money borrowed doesn’t come from UH, it comes from programs that contribute to that fund. If you belong to a credit union, how would you feel if your co-workers’ loans were forgiven while you still had to pay back yours?

There are other possible ways to ease the situation. For instance, because UH is at risk of losing federate funding if it does not comply with gender-equity progression, maybe the school should subsidize some of the women’s sports programs.

Or maybe the athletic department could get a bigger cut of H merchandise?

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Offensive tackle Austin Hansen still is appealing his NCAA suspension. If his appeal were denied, he would be eligible to return in the second half of the football season. For now, the Warriors are prepared to enter training camp with Clayton Laurel and Jordan Loeffler at that position. Laurel, who will be a senior, played well during the spring. Loeffler, who will be a second-year freshman, progressed after missing three spring practices because of leg issues. Laurel and Loeffler had entered the UH program as grayshirts.

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The WAC has decided to reduce this year’s Football Media Preview, which used to cover at least two days, into a single Media Day.

The event will be held July 28, in Las Vegas’ Orleans Hotel, with each of the eight head football coaches getting a 30-minute turn at the mic. Quarterback Bryant Moniz is expected to represent the Warriors.

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This coming week’s guests hosts:

Monday — Big Island Kurt.

Tuesday — Mrs. C.

Wednesday — Jm2375.

Thursday — Kazz.

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Happy birthday to Mrs. LTUF.

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And Happy Mother’s Day.


  1. haka May 8, 2011 8:54 am

    Go UH!

    Go Warriors!

    Go Wahine!

  2. haka May 8, 2011 8:55 am

    Happy Mothers Day!

  3. haka May 8, 2011 9:04 am

    EVERYONE needs to realize that support doesn’t just mean cheering for the home team.

  4. cheepono May 8, 2011 9:05 am

    hope all the mother’s on the WB have an awesome mother’s day!


  5. haka May 8, 2011 9:07 am

    Sometimes, I think it is amazing at the success that UH has considering all that Hawaii has to overcome as compared to ALL the other institutions.

  6. papajoe2 May 8, 2011 9:11 am

    Very sorry to those involved, but who is Mrs. C? Hopes she has a great Mother’s Day too.

  7. jm2375 May 8, 2011 9:12 am

    Happy Mother’s Day to all the moms out there in Tsaiko-land!!

    I don’t have an answer to the budget woes, but don’t 95% of D-I schools run a deficit in their athletic programs?

    Mrs C and Kazz as guest hosts? Get ready for a wild ride!! 😆

  8. LizKauai -iPad May 8, 2011 9:25 am

    Hauoli Lahanau, Mrs. LTUHF!!!

    Happy PINK SIDE!!!

    What, ST going on vacay and letting the playhouse run amuck? Alrighty then!!!

  9. Kazz on Droid_X May 8, 2011 9:40 am

    School to subsidize women’s athletic programs?

    Uh oh, da hui going get mo mad!!!

    They will cry from the rafters, “EH SUBSIDIZE FOOBAWL!!! OR DA DA KINE BASKETBALL OR BASEBALL!!!”

    Watch out..

  10. madeinhawaii May 8, 2011 9:46 am

    The athletic department gets Federal Funding, as well? Or is that UH in general? How much funding is that? Shouldn’t a part of that go to the Athletic Dept since the onus of that requirement seems to be on athletics?

  11. kawika49 May 8, 2011 9:46 am

    Howz about womens target shooting, Gymnastics, Judo?

  12. SteveM May 8, 2011 9:46 am

    Happy Mother’s Day!

    Happy Birthday Mrs. Long Time UH Fan (Lorna) !!!

  13. kawika49 May 8, 2011 9:47 am

    And with all the heavyweights we have; Ladies Sumo?

  14. el burro sabio May 8, 2011 9:57 am

    The only way that UH can subsidize athletics is by using tuition. Imagine what they students will say if they have to pay an athletic fee and tuition money is used too.

  15. PolyMom May 8, 2011 9:57 am

    @PapaJoe…there are lots of rentals on Manhattan Avenue. Yes, Hermosa Beach and the beach cities is the ONLY place to live in LA. Fresh air all the time. NO SMOG!!!!! But if you come to town, let Cliff know and he will call me and we can meet at the Mermaid. I would be happy to take you on the City tour of all of the sports athletes homes and the many pro and college football coaches who have flocked to live in Hermosa Beach. For some reason it has become the “IN” place for athletes and Coaches as well as celebs. Heck when Calen is in town, he hangs out with my neighbor…WEE MAN, the star of the Jack Ass movies. He will be coming to see Calen at a game this year. The little boy who lives next door to us, Kai (4 years old) misses Calen as Calen was his big brother in the neighborhood. His Dad is also from Hawaii and little Kai and his Dad are going to a game this year too!!!

    I am enjoying my day…being treated like a Goddess, with gifts and phone calls from my own children and all the children we have helped raise and helped them make their lives better. But for us Mothers Day is very special as how many folks can say, they have a Mother in Law who is 100 years young? Every day with her is a blessing. And we cherish her…heck when Calen called, he had to speak to Granny first!!!!

    The only way this bill at is going to get paid off at UH is if we win the LOTTERY!!!! So, next time I am feeling lucky, we need folks to give me some numbers…who knows what could happen??????

    Call Cliff next time you are in town…would be fun to chit chat football. But working like a crazy lady this year. My Agent has not let up, and I have had more work this year, then any year since I have lived in California. And in this economy, you take the work when it is offered to you.

    Are you on the Big Island if I recall?

  16. Da Punchbowl Kid May 8, 2011 9:57 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂

    Happy Birthday Ms LTUH!

  17. Kazz via iPad on VZW May 8, 2011 9:58 am

    Going back to Al’s post last night about Kauai HS stealing bases after a big lead…

    I dunno, I didnt see the game, but it’s not the worst thing in the world.

    As for injuries occuring to opposing teams and the other taking advantage, well quite honestly speaking it’s the game officials’ duty to call for a stoppage in play.

    As they say in football, “play to the whistle” right?

    Who here can honestly say that if an opposing football player went down with a cramp or even a torn ACL and the refs dont blow the whistle in time and UH just completed a bomb for a TD, you’d be “disappointed” that we kept running into the endzone?

    I say keep playing until the officials STOP the game.

    But back to Al’s comment. Honestly the pressure to win, even at the high school level is probably at unseen heights. Is Kauai High School’s M.O focused on speed on the bases and keeping the pressure on that way? I dunno. If it is, then they are just playing their game right? Not their fault the other team can’t stop them right?

    No one seemed to have a problem with this philosophy that a former UH coach made famous right?

  18. Da Punchbowl Kid May 8, 2011 10:01 am

    Mr. Tsai or Garret, or some other knowing person:

    Please splain to us again why UH doesn’t own all the proceeds from the “H” logo.

    Top Twenny!

  19. Curt May 8, 2011 10:03 am

    Happy Mothers Day! Thank you moms for your sacrifices.

    Per Coach Mack, that probably includes the Sports Animals too. 🙂

  20. Da Punchbowl Kid May 8, 2011 10:09 am

    😆 🙂 Hau’oli La Makuahine! 🙂 😆

  21. jm2375 May 8, 2011 10:11 am

    papajoe – Mrs. C is better known as Colomaohana, mom to da 7FLIPS and spouse of Mr. C. She is a pink-sider who has become a full-fledged Tsaikette! Beware, the lead slippah may come your way if you misbehave.

  22. SteveM May 8, 2011 10:12 am

    Hmmm… <b<Kazz is guest blog host on the second day of the WAC Softball Championships in Fresno.

    From an old hit TV series: “Sock it to me!” 😆 😛 😉

  23. papajoe2 May 8, 2011 10:14 am

    PolyMom, My daughter lives on Manhatten Ave. She is looking for a 3 bdrm. place as she has 2 friends that would like to share a place. I live in Mililani. I did meet somebody in one of the restaurants who used to live in Mililani. By any small chance was that you? You were with 2 other ladies and I was with my wife, daughter, and grandaughter. And yes, the next time I go there, I will let RanibowCliff know. I do have his email address.

  24. papajoe2 May 8, 2011 10:17 am

    ST, our great host of the WB. HAVE A GREAT VACATION! Relax and keep in touch with us OK? 5 weeks? That’s a long one. When you come back, football will be that much closer.

  25. Kazz via iPad on VZW May 8, 2011 10:20 am

    Mrs. C will use a slipper.

    I prefer a metal pipe.

  26. Stretch May 8, 2011 10:22 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!

    Happy Mother’s Day!!

    30 minutes??!!?? Why so long?? Stick to the script!!

  27. Pauoa Boy May 8, 2011 10:26 am

    Happy Mother’s Day to all the beautiful mamaz…

  28. Stephen Tsai May 8, 2011 10:27 am

    I’ll stil be around, with the zapper — I trust you guys, but not that much — but I’ll be burning off vacay in the yard.

    Or getting my car’s right-side mirror fixed.

    Baby steps.

  29. tommui May 8, 2011 10:31 am


    And blessings to all Moms.

    Howdy DPK.

    And Mrs LTUHF – best wishes

  30. Pauoa Boy May 8, 2011 10:33 am

    I hope Coach Gib was able to put enough of an impression on Shaquille Stokes this past weekend and he chooses to become a Warrior. Sources say that his choices are between UH and Colorado State. Good luck to Coach Gib and hopefully Shaq chooses to become a Warrior.

    Shaq, good luck in your decision although I am hoping you choose to become a Warrior. I can see you becoming a 4yr. starter for us as well as being the most important piece to starting a Fab 4 for the next 4yrs. with yoursef, Gerry Blakes, Dillon Biggs, and Ronnie Stevens. You could be an instant impact guy and I know with your skills combined with those three guys I just mentioned, you could create something special for our Warrior Basketball team. Good Luck and I got my fingers crossed you choose to be a Warrior and Bleed Green!

  31. Kekoa May 8, 2011 10:34 am

    Congratz to the Temps of the WB! This is kinda like Mutiny on the Blog with pernission from CPT Bligh!

    Happy Mother’s Day & Birthday Lorna!

  32. d1shima May 8, 2011 10:38 am

    Agree with Stretch.

    Doesn’t take that long to say, “We’re gonna play like Muthers because this ain’t P.E. football.”

  33. d1shima May 8, 2011 10:39 am

    Happy Birthday Mrs. LongTimeUHFan!

  34. madeinhawaii May 8, 2011 10:41 am

    Unfortunately, it wasn’t the best weather for recruiting this weekend. Hopefully, though, Stokes and some of the players really got a chance to bond together. Shaquille sounds like the missing piece of the team puzzle and would be a great get. Got my fingers crossed.

  35. d1shima May 8, 2011 10:42 am

    Unfortunately, it wasn’t the best weather for recruiting this weekend.

    Relative to the weather on the mainland, no too bad!

  36. Pauoa Boy May 8, 2011 10:44 am

    Well we get chance with Stokes as it’s between us and Colorado State as his final two choices… hope Coach Gib worked his magic…

  37. mctruck May 8, 2011 10:45 am

    Mrs LTUHF, big happy birthday to you….hope u still read this blog. and also, happy Mother’s Day as well…..WOW!!, dbl the pleasure!!

  38. d1shima May 8, 2011 10:45 am

    Is his appeal something that Austin Hansen has to deal with himself? How much support can he/is he receiving from the program?

  39. Kekoa May 8, 2011 10:46 am

    PolyMom ~ Are you attending the UH/UNLV football game in Vegas? (I know R/C will be coming).

    Enjoy the rest of your day!

  40. d1shima May 8, 2011 10:47 am

    Good Luck to all the stand-in Blog Hosts!

    Remember: spelling counts!

  41. Stephen Tsai May 8, 2011 10:49 am

    Anybody else want to be a host?

    Text me at 256-0223.

    You’ll get the same pay as me — zero — and have to supply your own prizes, but the people treat you really nice, and that’s priceless.

  42. Stephen Tsai May 8, 2011 10:50 am


    Hansen is on his own on this one.

    But to be clear, he didn’t break any laws, is in good standing in school and remains on scholarship.

  43. d1shima May 8, 2011 10:51 am

    Thanks Stephen.

    Good Luck Austin Hansen.

  44. mctruck May 8, 2011 10:52 am

    To all Tsaiko-mothers, Happy-muddahs DAY!!

  45. mctruck May 8, 2011 10:55 am

    ST, ur#42 got me confused…..

    Why is Hansen on suspension then????

  46. Stephen Tsai May 8, 2011 10:56 am

    Love the rain. I was in the yard — Midori7 can vouch for that — and then it started raining. And now I’m in front of the TV, watching the playoff game and thinking: Why — why!?! — would Pau’s girlfriend dump him during the playoffs.

  47. Slugger May 8, 2011 10:59 am

    Happy birthday, Mrs. LTUHF!

    Happy Muddah’s Day to all of the mamas out there!

  48. mctruck May 8, 2011 10:59 am

    espnU has shown bigWest baseball recently and that’s a good thing for future UH exposure.

  49. jm2375 May 8, 2011 11:00 am

    Hey ST – when you’re done working on your yard, come over and work on my yard, please? 😀 j/k

  50. Stephen Tsai May 8, 2011 11:01 am

    Can’t say why he’s on suspension. I’m 99 percent sure of what he did. But Hansen said he can’t say say now, so without his confirmation, can’t say.

  51. mctruck May 8, 2011 11:02 am

    #46….it’s a conspiracy, or bout$$$$$$. He should talk to Nowitzki bout false girl friend$$$.

  52. mctruck May 8, 2011 11:04 am

    O-O-O…….I think I see the connection!!??

  53. Stephen Tsai May 8, 2011 11:07 am


    Hey, pretty good analogy about that Dirk situation.

  54. Slugger May 8, 2011 11:10 am

    Talk Story:

    The Story Corps program writen about in today’s paper is a cool program. I heard the excerpts on NPR about people’s lives and experiences when I lived in AZ. So, when the Story Corps trailer came to Flagstaff, I signed up. My co-advisor of the Hawaiian club and I “interviewed” each other – we just talked story about growing up in Hawaii and living on the mainland away from home. Our interview is in the Library of Congress and we each got a copy of the interview on CD.

    I like to think that I had a hand in getting them to Hawaii, since they had no plans in 2006 of coming here. I sent in a written suggestion and spoke to someone in the program. Because of the diversity and cultures in Hawaii, there are totally different stories here than on the mainland. So, try go… interviews in Pidgin would be cool to have in the Library of Congress and broadcast on NPR.

  55. mctruck May 8, 2011 11:10 am

    yeah…and at my age, I still don’t understand a damn thing bout women!!??

  56. mctruck May 8, 2011 11:25 am

    Looks like the Wahine Softball team recruited a whole lot of fire-power(bats/pitching), coming on board for the 2012 season…..I like what I see so far.

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  58. warriorsun May 8, 2011 11:36 am

    fresnecks lose to lat, 8-4 today and now are 12-7 with a 4-game homestand remaining in the reg season against New Mex St. Haw is on top @ 12-4 with 8 games remaining. magic number is at 5 to clinch reg season title (combination of fsu losses or haw wins).

  59. Hawaiianbod May 8, 2011 11:38 am


  60. Hawaiianbod May 8, 2011 11:39 am

    A very Happy Birthday to Mrs LTUHF!!

  61. Hawaiianbod May 8, 2011 11:44 am

    Looking forward to this week’s guest hosts…would’ve been ‘interesting’ if Steve/WSF or Koa-mahu were also guest host. 😯

  62. Hawaiianbod May 8, 2011 11:45 am

    enjoy ur vacation, ST!

  63. ballpicker May 8, 2011 11:49 am

    Happy Mother’s Day to all the wonderful mom’s out there.

  64. Da Punchbowl Kid May 8, 2011 12:10 pm

    Hey bp! I saw our buddy Kanoe W. at Nina Ralston’s service yesterday. 😉 She looks great!

  65. Garret May 8, 2011 12:11 pm

    Mr. Tsai or Garret, or some other knowing person:

    Please splain to us again why UH doesn’t own all the proceeds from the “H” logo.


    That has always bothered me, but it is just the way that UH does the accounting. I guess the theory is that all merchandise sales go into the same pot and lots of the sales are for non-sports-themed stuff.

    I used to be a lot more upset about it…until I saw the figures released on USA Today which showed that Upper Campus provided more than $10 mil of the UH Athletic Department’s budget. The Athletic Department may lose $100k or $500k on merchandise licensing…but Upper Campus is covering WAY more than that for UH Athletics.

    When Upper Campus talks about a deficit, they are talking about giving UH Athletics more than they had already planned. The last year I saw was I think 2008-2009, and they gave UH Athletics a little more than $10 mil and the deficit was counted as $2 mil…so, Upper Campus already expected to lose $8 mil on Athletics.

    What happens when the UH budget gets hammered by the Legislature due to the economy? We all know that is coming. If Upper Campus ever asked for that $10 mil to go to $0, UH would have to eliminate sports altogether. The student fee may provide $2 mil, but that does not fix the budget.

    Expect a tuition increase coming soon for UH. I don’t see any way around that. I also expect the student fee to go up–or some of that tuition increase will go to the Athletic Department’s subsidy by UH.

    Bottom line, we cannot complain about the licensing money when UH Athletics takes so much money out of Upper Campus’ budget.

  66. haka May 8, 2011 12:11 pm


    I said the same thing after the Sugar Bowl. Why would JJ dump UH before the biggest game in UH history? 🙁

  67. Garret May 8, 2011 12:22 pm

    I looked up the latest year’s numbers since I last year I had seen was 2008-2009. For 2009-2010, this is what Upper Campus spent on Athletics:

    Direct Institutional Support (money given to UHAD): $5,743,229.00

    Facilities and Administrative Support: $4,800,118.00

    Together, that comes to about $10.5 mil.

    Program sales, concessions, parking, and novelty sales: $572,884.00

    Add up all of the money that UH got from TV, radio, internet rights, and everything UH gets from the WAC (including NCAA basketball money and bowl money)…it comes out to less than half of what Upper Campus gave to UH Athletics.

  68. kawika49 May 8, 2011 12:25 pm

    If on the the tax form we are asked to give x dollars for elections, why not have a slot for us to donate to the UH?

  69. PolyMom May 8, 2011 12:29 pm

    @Kekoa, not sure if I can attend the Vegas game, as I was just sent a script for a movie over that period to be shot in Michigan. If the Director lets us leave…many times we are not allowed to leave the state on weekends I would attend the game. It depends on the Director and the UPM. But yes, if not working we will be there. But I have every kind of way to see games, computer, ESPN pay per view. Cost big money over football season as I have all my different teams to follow!

    @PapaJoe2, I saw a rental sign on a house that I know is three bedrooms just the other day on the 1400 block of Manhattan Ave. Will keep my eyes open. No, was not me as I have been out of town so much this year working. Tell your daughter to look around on the North end of Hermosa as lots of the seniors are having to rent their homes as they can not go up and down the stairs…you know most of those homes are 4 stories so it is really a community of young athletic folks. But will keep my eyes open and let you know if I see any good priced rentals. Right now I am in Redondo Beach as we are doing a total reno on our home there. Since it is going to be on a major television show, we have to work at their pace…so taking a long time to complete. Can not wait to be right next to the water again. Where does your daughter work?

    And to all the Mothers….have a wonderful day. I got a house full of kids…who are cooking an having a good time. Aloha….and call Cliff when you are in the Beach Cities area!

  70. Old Diver May 8, 2011 12:54 pm


    Garret, I’m going to take the position that of the $360,000,000 we taxpayers gave UH this year to operate we taxpayers meant some of it to go to the Athletic Department. That being the case the amount of the Athletic Department’s deficit is determined by Upper Campus. I’m interested to see you take on this.

  71. Shiva Bowl May 8, 2011 1:01 pm

    I heard Pau’s gf dumped him because Kobe’s gf Vanessa (queen) told her to leave him. Any truth to that I dont know, but its circulating on the boards…and if thats true, could definitely factor in lack of motivation on the Lakers side today.

  72. Shiva Bowl May 8, 2011 1:02 pm

    Kobe’s wife*

  73. iwonderwhytheyhateme May 8, 2011 1:07 pm

    The UH wanted more autonomy over the money they received from the legislature and so they got it.

    Whether you support additional money “earmarked” for athletics or whether you support more money for UH in general, it will not happen.

    The only way athletics gets more money is to ask upper campus. They do not ask the legislature. It does not work that way.

  74. kawika49 May 8, 2011 1:19 pm

    #73 money for Uh from the general fund is a given, if you pay taxes. To sports/arts is optional.

  75. kawika49 May 8, 2011 1:26 pm

    And I don’t know why the legislature, didn’t allow for the posilibility of voters to authorize additional deductions from their (taxpayers) net tax bill, to be allocated to their choice, wether it be education, econ development etc.

  76. kawika49 May 8, 2011 1:35 pm

    Rather than ask us to pay our fair share, ask us if were willing to give more to a dedicated cause.

  77. Ballpicker May 8, 2011 1:36 pm

    Yes she is DPK.

    We’ve played a few rounds of golf over the past few months. She really digs it. Oops sorry off topic.

    Plus I’ll be playing in Calvin Y ‘s group in the alumni golf tournament in June.

    Go Warriors.

  78. gigi-hawaii May 8, 2011 1:46 pm

    pau eating at Champa Thai in Pearl Kai. So much food — all paid for by my 2 daughters. How nice of them.

    #1 daughter gave me a green orchid plant.

    #2 daughter gave me an Amazon gift card.

    So nice to be a mom, huh?

    I reminded them that Dad’s Day is coming up.

  79. gigi-hawaii May 8, 2011 1:50 pm

    ST, that is a very nice line up for blog hosts. I think 3 others would be good to have, also — namely, Garret, Al, and Slugger.

  80. RedZone May 8, 2011 1:50 pm

    What is Gasol doing in Pearl City?

  81. SteveM May 8, 2011 2:05 pm

    ST…Posted on: May 8, 2007 at 6:48:45 am

    * * *

    And (on-time) birthday wishes to Curtis Murayama.

    Happy Birthday Curtis Murayama !!!

    …didn’t learn he had such a great sense of humor until after The Warrior Beat blog started…. 🙄 😆

  82. Michigan Warrior May 8, 2011 2:10 pm

    Howzit, everyone! Been busy, tired, and busy. Oh, I said that already.

    Anyways, Happy Mother’s day to all the Super Mommies out there!

    Have a great vacation, ST… even if it is just taking care of loose ends at home. At least things will be at a slightly more leisurely pace for a little while.

  83. gigi-hawaii May 8, 2011 2:11 pm



  84. Ralph May 8, 2011 2:18 pm

    Big 12

    Columbia, Mo.

    #6 Missouri 6 #3 Texas 3

    WP-Chelsea Thomas (25-5) 8 K’s

    LP-Blaire Luna (27-5)

    Norman, Okla.

    #17 Oklahoma 4 Iowa State 1

    WP-Keilani Ricketts (25-12) 2-Hitter 14 K’s

    LP-Rachel Zabriskie (14-16)

    Waco, Texas

    #22 Baylor 1 #16 Nebraska 0

    WP-Whitney Canion (23-9) 2-Hitter

    LP-Ashley Hagemann (25-11)

    College Station, Texas

    #23 Texas A&M 7 #18 Oklahoma State 3

    WP-Melissa Dumezich (25-8)

    LP-Sarah Freeman (9-6)

  85. Ralph May 8, 2011 2:20 pm


    Corvalis, Ore.

    #8 California 4 Oregon State 0

    WP-Jolene Henderson (33-6)

    LP-Tina Andreana (5-14)

    Los Angeles, Calif.

    #12 UCLA 5 #15 Arizona 1

    WP-Destiny Rodino

    LP-Shelby Babcock

    S-Jessica Hall

    Eugene, Ore.

    #13 Oregon 4 #9 Stanford 2

    WP-Jessica Moore (19-8)

    LP-Teagan Gerhart (21-9)

    Seattle, Wash.

    #1 Arizona State 6 #11 Washington 2

    WP-Mackenzie Popsecue (13-2)

    LP-Byana Walker (3-5)

  86. Hilo-Warrior May 8, 2011 2:32 pm

    I was watching the begining of the Laker game and saw the end on ESPN highlights. But what Odom and Bynum did at the end is inexcusable. There is no Sportsmanship in those plays and Its a horrible example for kids.

  87. Bulla May 8, 2011 2:53 pm

    good luck to the blog hosts, i know you will all do a superb job 🙂

  88. kawika49 May 8, 2011 3:03 pm

    #87—Hope not..Bwahhhhaaaa

  89. madeinhawaii May 8, 2011 3:22 pm

    before I forget again…. Happy Mother’s Day!

  90. Salvatore Custis May 8, 2011 3:23 pm

    This blog seems to get a renowned deal of visitors. How do you advertise it? It gives a nice individual twist on things. I guess having something real or substantial to talk about is the most important factor.

  91. Kazz May 8, 2011 3:28 pm


    May 8th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    I was watching the begining of the Laker game and saw the end on ESPN highlights. But what Odom and Bynum did at the end is inexcusable. There is no Sportsmanship in those plays and Its a horrible example for kids.

    I know a lot of us here can vouch for what happens in youth sports in Hawaii, but just a SERIOUS question.

    What is the attitude like on the mainland where straight up WINNING is more pushed on youth sports?

    With that being said, I bet there are more than enough parents at home pointing to the actions of some LA Lakers after that loss and saying, “See son, they should feel that way because they are losers. That’s what happens when you lose! Don’t LOSE!!!”…

    Just being real. The days of “sportsmanship” are dying out.

  92. snl May 8, 2011 3:36 pm

    Awsome site! I am loving it!! Will come back again. I am taking your feeds also

  93. Ralph May 8, 2011 3:39 pm

    all times are PT

    WAC Tournament schedule (all times Pacific)

    Wednesday, May 11

    Game 1 – Hawai’i vs. Utah State, 4:30 pm

    Game 2 – Fresno State vs. Louisiana Tech, 7 pm

    Thursday, May 12

    Game 3 – New Mexico State vs. Winner of Game 1, 11:30 am

    Game 4 – Boise State vs. Winner of Game 2, 2 pm

    Game 5 – Loser of Game 2 vs. Loser of Game 3, 4:30 pm

    Game 6 – Loser of Game 1 vs. Loser of Game 4, 7 pm

    Friday, May 13

    Game 7 – Winner of Game 3 vs. Winner of Game 4, 2 pm

    Game 8 – Winner of Game 5 vs. Winner of Game 6, 4:30 pm

    Game 9 – Winner of Game 8 vs. Loser of Game 7, 7 pm

    Saturday, May 14

    Game 10 – Winner of Game 7 vs. Winner of Game 9, 2 pm

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  94. Ralph May 8, 2011 3:47 pm

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    May 8th, 2011 at 5:28 pm

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    a. Receive a % from the parking

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    Re the parking spaces: Again, contact Bruce Coppa and also Kevin Chong Chee, the Chair of the Stadium Authority to raise the issue.

    Actually, the real problem lies with Governor Abercrombie and his desire to stop providing any future SIGNIFICANT state support for Aloha Stadium upgrades and improvements beyond basic safety matters. He wants to convert the 132 acres on which Aloha Stadium & its assorted parking lots sit into affordable/workfoce housing even though there are significant legal, financial, transpoirtation, and, yes, educational opposition or restrictions in doing that.

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