Clobberin' time

The Warriors will conduct their first scrimmage of training camp this morning.

The first snap will be at about 10 a.m.

It will be the civilian public’s last chance to watch training camp. Tomorrow, training camp moves to Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam. The practices on base will be open to military personnel.


  1. papajoe2 August 11, 2012 8:06 am


  2. duffer August 11, 2012 8:08 am

    No golf today papajoe?

  3. papajoe2 August 11, 2012 8:08 am

    DPK, on the former blog. Tutti Fruitti would make a great sing-a-long at the stadium ala da East Coast stadium. Also, A-L-O-H-A by da local group. Get da stadium a-rockin!

  4. kawika49 August 11, 2012 8:11 am

    I prefer Boom shakalaka.

  5. Da Punchbowl Kid August 11, 2012 8:14 am

    Braddah Joe –

    You might be right – I nevah even tink about dat! You goin’ scrimmage today or wut?

  6. papajoe2 August 11, 2012 8:14 am

    duffer, Cannot afford weekend I will be in Maui next weekend for a funeral. No time for golf there though. Gotta baby sit my moopuna in from America while her mom attends her friend’s funeral and kava ceremony. Wea da good foods stay? I always go to Tasty Crust to order 1 hot cake with my meal but, wea else?

  7. HiFlyer August 11, 2012 8:14 am

    Morning all

  8. Da Punchbowl Kid August 11, 2012 8:15 am

    Boom shakalaka is anoddah good one – wow you guyseses is a couple of marketing geniuseses! 😉

  9. papajoe2 August 11, 2012 8:15 am

    DPK, I dodono. Gotta vote and baby luau this afternoon.

  10. Da Punchbowl Kid August 11, 2012 8:16 am

    HiFlyer –

    You going scrimmage?

    I’m really jacked to see wut da Warriors look like when da rubbah meets da road!

  11. HiFlyer August 11, 2012 8:19 am

    DPK – see you there

  12. papajoe2 August 11, 2012 8:24 am

    I’ll look for you guys if I do go. It will be a last minute decision. Wife works night shift and she’s still sleeping so I gotta discuss it with her. Happy wife=happy life. I’m really stoked about the team. I wanna go but probably no can. We’ll see.

  13. Da Punchbowl Kid August 11, 2012 8:24 am

    Love the Headline for today’s post, ST! Just for you , Blog Daddy:

    See errybody at the clobbering!

  14. SteveM August 11, 2012 8:29 am

    Good morning everyone!

    …another beautiful day in Hawaii!

  15. ai-eee-soos August 11, 2012 8:31 am

    Alum news ….

    Linebacker Solomon Elimimian intercepted a pass from SF QB Tolzien,

    in the fourth quarter.

  16. tommui August 11, 2012 8:36 am


    GO VOTE!

    Attaboy Sollie!

  17. jm2375 August 11, 2012 8:38 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Got home late last night. Doing laundry. Gotta run some errands today.

    Happy Belated Birthdays to konamei and anyone else I missed.


    GO USA!

  18. chopsueyboy August 11, 2012 8:56 am


    Thanks for the info about Allegiance.

    No plans to be in San Diego, but my high school buddy lives there

    and his dad was a member of the 442nd.

  19. Ben A Lurker August 11, 2012 8:57 am

    top twenty!


    Aiea 53, Kaimuki 6

  20. Last Call August 11, 2012 9:01 am

    I was on the treadmill this morning and while surfing the TV channels I paused for a moment to watch Cheech and Chong’s Up In Smoke, a movie that I have seen many times.

    In one scene the boys were getting pulled over by a cop and in the background was a Shell gas station…The price of gas was 64 cents a gallon for regular.

  21. haka August 11, 2012 9:09 am

    Here’s to a productive and injury free scrimmage!

    Go Warriors!

  22. duffer August 11, 2012 9:18 am


    Tiffany’s. 🙂

    or Whitey’s favorite Jack’s.

    Give us a call.

  23. Haleakala August 11, 2012 9:24 am

    Alex Green will probably have more competition at Green Bay. They are looking at signing Cedric Benson per ESPN.

  24. mctruck August 11, 2012 9:28 am

    I taped the GB/SD preseason game just to watch Alex Green in action!?, I am wrong to say…he never got into the game?

  25. mo808 August 11, 2012 9:28 am

    Good Morning! 21 more wakeups!

    If your going to the scrimmage take sunscreen! IWWTHM says they cut the trees back!

    Go Warriors!

  26. Haleakala August 11, 2012 9:29 am

    PapaJoe: Sam Sato also has good hot cakes. Actuallly I prefer going there more than TC for breakfast except many times you have to wait for a table.

  27. wafan August 11, 2012 9:30 am

    Good mid morning!

  28. Haleakala August 11, 2012 9:30 am

    Mctruck: Alex Green did play in the first quarter. 3 carries for 3 yards but he also was in there to block and protect the QB.

  29. wafan August 11, 2012 9:31 am

    Oops, missed konamei’s birthday.


  30. mctruck August 11, 2012 9:31 am

    tanks, Haleakala…..guess I fast fwd’d the recording too fast…..article was supah!

  31. wafan August 11, 2012 9:31 am

    They mentioned Green picked up the rush to protect the qb.

  32. mctruck August 11, 2012 9:32 am

    He’s still number 25 isn’t he?

  33. wafan August 11, 2012 9:33 am

    Headed to see life in the sea at the park. Suspect not much has changed but felt the need to play tourist.

    Well, I am a tourist.


  34. wafan August 11, 2012 9:34 am

    Remember to vote!

  35. mctruck August 11, 2012 9:35 am

    dats o.k., GB site says AG is numba 24.

  36. mo808 August 11, 2012 9:35 am

    Voted by mail in! Been doing that for years now, much more convenient!

  37. wafan August 11, 2012 9:37 am

    Hawai’i finally caught up with the other states . . . permanent mail-in (absentee) ballots.

    Now all they have to do is get rid of the election holiday and put up permanent ballot collection boxes around the state. Secure and no postage required.

  38. wafan August 11, 2012 9:38 am

    In my congressional and legislative district balloting sites have not existed in nearly forever.

  39. mctruck August 11, 2012 9:38 am

    Guess if AG played in the 1st quarter…’s a good indication of where the team projects him to be when the season starts?, then again…Benson????

  40. Kekoa August 11, 2012 9:40 am

    ➡ Nanakuli

    ➡ ESPN #222 @ 2:00 PM today

    ➡ LLWS West Regional

    ➡ Pantaloony, CA

    (Heading out the door to go VOTE one more time undah my blog name dis time).

  41. Haleakala August 11, 2012 9:40 am

    Mctruck: I think Alex Green was #20. Here is an article that quotes him in regards to GB looking at signing Cedric Benson.!page=1&pageSize=10&sort=newestfirst

  42. mctruck August 11, 2012 9:41 am

    You guys been following Hawaii’s team in the LLW??, pretty awesome, so far. I just love it whenever any sports team from Hawaii beats Arizona.

  43. Haleakala August 11, 2012 9:42 am

    I did notice one good play by AG when he picked up a safety or LB who was blitzing on a 3rd down play.

  44. mctruck August 11, 2012 9:50 am

    Haleakala… notice the article mentioned how AG on one carry got hit squarley on his knee without the brace but he felt o.k., with no further injury or swellness to his knee? Wonder if the defense singled out AG and that knee of his??

  45. mctruck August 11, 2012 9:53 am

    laters my friends…..going to have an early dinner.

  46. Capitolist/WassupDoc August 11, 2012 9:53 am

    For those of you who don’t think that you can have any impact on public policy except by voting, read Dave Reardon’s column: Stadium’s future should be discussed now, not later

    NOTE: There is one factual error in the collumn – Aloha Stadium is no longer in Senator Glenn Wakai’s district because of reapportionment, It is now represented by Senator David Ige who is unopposed in the Primary.

    What started out with comments here on the Warrior Beat about the future of Aloha Stadium AND the future of 20 Division 1-A intercollegiate sports at UH Manoa by three Tsai-kos back in the spring of 2010 has become law – ACT 282 -2012.

    I guarantee you that you can make a difference. Remember the four surfers who came down to the Capital in 2006 to fight the high-rise development of Kaka`ako Maka`i by Alexander & Baldwin. See any high rises being built there today?

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  47. Kekoa August 11, 2012 10:01 am

    Welcome home jm80808 & Slugger!

  48. Kekoa August 11, 2012 10:08 am

    Yikes! What about Screecher…has she decided which MALL School was her fave?

  49. helencalif August 11, 2012 10:14 am

    On Nov 16 UH plays Air Force. In the Falcon depth chart somewhere will be David Graves’ younger brother Dano Graves. After David graduated from Folsom, Dano became Folsom’s QB. Here’s his story:

    3,702 yds. passing his senior year as Folsom H.S. QB

    994 yds. rushing his senior year as Folsom H.S. QB

    4,696 total yds. in one season (over 9,600 yds. in 2 seasons as QB)

    62 TDs passing

    23 TDs rushing

    85 total TDs in one season

    2010 MaxPreps National player of the year

    2010 California State player of the year

    Sacramento Bee Quarter Back of the Decade (2000-2009)

    In 2010 led Folsom H.S. to Div II State Championship

    In 2010 led the nation in QB ratings

    The Graves brothers live and breathe football.

  50. jm2375 August 11, 2012 10:14 am

    Kekoa – of the ones we looked at, Chapman U in Orange was her favorite. She still needs to do research on other locales/schools, e.g. USD, USF.

  51. d1shima(Galaxy 'd) August 11, 2012 10:25 am

    Great Morning All!

    Katoosh! Time….

  52. Kekoa August 11, 2012 10:26 am

    Jm ~ Whereever she decides to go, I hope she feels safe there. So many young women do not consider security a concern. That’s for mom to worry about…2,500 miles away.

  53. papajoe2 August 11, 2012 10:27 am

    Thanks to the Maui guys for the places to eat.

    Just got through voting. Stupidest thing is to have 2 different polling places at Mililani High School. Many, many people, including myself, went to the wrong one at MHS. I thought it was at the gym but I had to pass the cafe with polling signs, and turned in thinking that was my place to vote. Not too many people there, but many of the ones that were, were delayed by the staff checking where they had to vote. It was time consuming. I ended up walking to the gym and again, not too many people, but was delayed by the staff checking where the people that were in front of me, polling place were. The voting itself took about a minute. Because of the delays, I’m missing the scrimmage. AUWE!

  54. ai-eee-soos August 11, 2012 10:29 am

    helencalif: Congratulations to Dano Graves on his appointment to the

    Air Force Academy. It is a great honor to be appointed to any of the

    military academies.

    Wishing brothers Dano and David, much success in football and lifelong pursuits.

  55. papajoe2 August 11, 2012 10:30 am

    Chapman? Heard that was a great filming place to study. Making movies and tv stuff and behind the scenes needed for making such.

    Welcome home jmxyz.

  56. BG August 11, 2012 10:37 am

    Up anchor and full speed ahead, Sailor Blue! Belated wishes but I know Mrs SB made sure you had another memorable birthday celebration…


  57. BG August 11, 2012 10:38 am

    Welcome home JM and Slugger…been too quiet around here 😀

  58. Kapahulu August 11, 2012 10:40 am


    Try this BBQ place in Kihei Maui.

    I took my wife to Maui last year for our Wedding Anniversary and we stumbled on this place by accident. The place is small and not fancy, more local old style, but the food was absolutley great. I had the Chili and Combo with the Ribs. That was probably some of the best Chili that I ever had with lots of good tasting meat. We also ordered some hot cornbread which was really, really good. In fact the food was so good that when we left we told them that they should open a restaurant on Oahu. Their reply was that everyone keeps telling them that. I will definetly check it out again on my next trip to Maui. The also have TV screens showing sports.

  59. Bugaz August 11, 2012 10:55 am

    Yes! Practice open to military. Oh wait what time though?

  60. WarriorNY August 11, 2012 11:16 am


    I gotta film degree from Chapman a few years back. It’s a great school with small class sizes. There’s quite a lot of Hawaii people that work in admin over there (in admission and other places). If you want any more info about the school, let me know…

  61. Slugger August 11, 2012 11:20 am

    Dang! I’m missing da scrimmage! Any reports???

    Just got in & waiting for my bro. My friend passed away before I could get into FLG to see her. Good to see old friends, tho. As Bulla says, Make memories.

    jmxxxx, Screecher’s considering USF, as in SF, CA?

  62. WarriorNY August 11, 2012 11:48 am

    Btw, Just want to let you guys know, Royce Pollard has been getting some Victor Cruz type comparisons after his solid performance last night from some NY media and fans…

    It still looks like a longshot for him to make the team but he is definitely making a name for himself… Good luck to Royce…

  63. BG August 11, 2012 11:51 am

    Welcome back, Slugger! Sorry to hear about your friend.

  64. d1shima(Galaxy 'd) August 11, 2012 12:07 pm

    No tweets today. 🙁

  65. whitey August 11, 2012 12:11 pm

    tweet, tweet

  66. lava August 11, 2012 12:27 pm

    Here are my thoughts and reflections from practice on Saturday.

    What I expect this year:

    1. No YAC. From a fan’s standpoint, this offense requires a big change in mind set. The gaps created by the run and shoot are gone. Our receivers are running designed routes, and not getting much separation. If the catch is made, expect the receiver to go down around the same time.

    2. Completion rate of less than 50%.

    3. Defenses to stack the box. Until the offense can prove it can get to the outside, it will likely face a congested middle week after week.

    4. Lots of punts, and opponents getting good field position. The gunners are going to be under the microscope from week one.

    5. Opponents dominating time of possession.

    6. There will be more games with a rb over 100 yard than there will be with a qb over 300 yards, and achieving either will be a real accomplishment.

    7. A decline in terms of entertainment value. Remember those days when we expected the offense to score every drive? Forget all that. This team isn’t there, but for you optimists, it is still early.

    What I hope for:

    1. We get recruits to verbally commit sooner rather than later. Recruiting will become more difficult if the team starts piling up losses.

    2. Recruits are able to visualize how they will make an immediate impact on the team. [I don’t sense the current roster of players even has a sense of this, so hopefully a lot of progress is made next week.]

    3. Chow is able to maintain player enthusiasm.

    4. Chow is able to borrow from Boise State in terms of designing plays to maximize the talents of particular players. I sure don’t sense at this stage the plays being designed for particular players, aside from the obvious roll outs to the left for the lefty qb.

    5. Cub fans chime in throughout the year to help us with coping techniques.

    6. I am wrong in my preliminary analysis. Chow has forgotten more football than I will ever know, for sure, and for our sake, let’s hope I’m proven to be a fool. [While it may not be apparent from the above, Chow has my support, but even winning half the games will be a major accomplishment under the circumstances.]

  67. Darren August 11, 2012 12:29 pm

    Graves got a lot of reps…looks like a natural out there. Sure adds a lot of possibilities.

  68. Darren August 11, 2012 12:32 pm

    Best looking QB today… can’t play this year.

  69. Darren August 11, 2012 12:57 pm

    Will choose to be an optimist…the defense sure did look good. Benny Fonua got a lot of run. The two FL boys can bring it and they play with an attitude.

  70. Shoko August 11, 2012 12:57 pm

    Thanks for the observations and breakdown, Lava.

  71. Rodney August 11, 2012 12:59 pm

    #66 Have some faith!Love the D

  72. jm2375 August 11, 2012 1:05 pm

    Slugger – welcome back! Yup, U San Fran. She’s gotta get her test scores up, though. We shall see…

    Chapman and the area around it felt very safe, unlike U$C. Unfortunately we didn’t get to see the science/health sciences bldgs. Lots of construction going on. Also liked Loyola Marymount, the campus seemed very peaceful.

  73. Darren August 11, 2012 1:05 pm

    Grimes sat this one out and Edwards only lined up for returns and special teams. JHT don’t look like a 17 year old kid anymore…he’s really filled out.

  74. mo808 August 11, 2012 1:08 pm

    @66 thanks Lava! I hope we can score when we’re on defense, and I hope the offense can stay on the field as long as possible when it has the ball. Go Warriors!

  75. Darren August 11, 2012 1:11 pm

    There’s no question that the offense is work in progress, but I can’t say that it’s a boring offense. There were multiple formations and it seems to rely on quick reads by the QB…thinking/hoping that will come with time and more reps. Gotta remember this was their first day under live fire.

  76. Darren August 11, 2012 1:14 pm

    Alex can sure boom it, but shouldn’t whoever is punting in the first game(s) be the one kicking?

  77. papajoe2 August 11, 2012 1:42 pm

    Poor New Hampshire Little League. Down 14-0 in the 6th inning on national tv to Connecticut. These are 12 year old kids. Isn’t there some kind of mercy rule? Nanakuli up next.

  78. Kekoa August 11, 2012 1:48 pm

    Nanakuli up 2 – 0 bottom 1.

  79. Kekoa August 11, 2012 1:50 pm

    Tied at 2 now!

  80. madeinhawaii August 11, 2012 1:57 pm


    Mahalo, everything you said reflects what I kind of expected this season. Looks like our season will depend heavily on being able to find that outside game – the player or players that can get outside the pocket well before the defenders do.

  81. Kekoa August 11, 2012 2:01 pm

    Going to the top of the 2nd with Petaluma up 3 – 2. Time for Nanakuli to rattle doze bats!

  82. lurkster August 11, 2012 2:01 pm


  83. tommui August 11, 2012 2:13 pm

    jm2375 #72

    USC is on the edge of Watts – a very poor income district. Tuition is around $40,000.

    UCLA, a State school, is in a very high income district.

    How you figgah?

  84. paintslinger9 August 11, 2012 2:14 pm

    I disagree with everything Lava said. First of all the practice today was in fact designed to emphasize certain aspects of the offense, not all of it. For example there were almost no passes to the tightends, where as some days ago there were many.

    Ball control was not an issue today as Coach Chow rotated almost evenly the ‘one’s and two’s’, or first and second string units..thereby making the practice an exercise in balance and play familiarity. This was the first real ‘live contact day’ and there were dropped balls because of it. The receivers will adjust as they get used to the contact.

    On the other hand, the line play was on the whole very good. The contact was full tilt and holes were made. Certain running backs really stood out….Lister and Lakalaka come to mind…and the QB’s had there moments, Schroeder looked very fluent in the system and seemed very much in control.

    Some guys were playing positions that they were no necessarily very familiar with….Graves comes to mind. But there were others. The general consensus of the group I was with on the sideline was the offense is way ahead of where it usually is at this point in the fall practice. The fact is…if they dont get too many injuries early this is going to be a good football team to reckon with—–as USC will no doubt discover in just a few weeks. Aloha

  85. paintslinger9 August 11, 2012 2:18 pm

    I should also add that the YAC were minimized because we actually have a fairly good secondary….a minor point,wouldn’t you say?

  86. mo808 August 11, 2012 2:25 pm

    Thanks paintslinger9! Appreciate your impressions!

  87. mo808 August 11, 2012 2:34 pm

    Congrats to Reagan Maui’a now with the Arizona Cardinals!

  88. Kekoa August 11, 2012 2:52 pm

    No surprise that the plate umpire warns Nanakuli coach about his pitcher’s display of *attitude.*

    The umpire may have a hard time locating his car after the game.

  89. Huh? August 11, 2012 2:53 pm

    Let go Nanakuli…you got guys in scoring position.

  90. gmahoney August 11, 2012 3:00 pm

    Nanakuli warned about “stealing ” signs?

  91. gigi-hawaii August 11, 2012 3:05 pm

    Interesting to read the reports by people who saw the scrimmage. Mahalo!

  92. gigi-hawaii August 11, 2012 3:06 pm

    Like everybody else, I hope there won’t be any injuries at USC. Good luck, guys!

  93. d1shima August 11, 2012 3:17 pm


    $40k is about 10 short. 😯

  94. Candy August 11, 2012 3:52 pm

    Lava reported what he saw and it is appreciated. I was happy to read paintslinger’s comments as I could not make the scrimmage. At this stage a prefer positive thoughts as they prepare for a tough first game and season. No doubt there will be surprises for USC because of the committed coach and team we have. Go Warriors!

  95. d1shima August 11, 2012 3:56 pm


  96. gmahoney August 11, 2012 3:58 pm

    Awwww, Nanakuli eliminated. Good job boys and girls!

  97. d1shima August 11, 2012 3:58 pm

    Eh, but dey gave ’em a good run.

    Nice job, Nanakuli.

  98. al August 11, 2012 4:09 pm

    ppj2…maui’s cheap eats favorites of mine are also; cupie’s drive inn (killa roast pork) and if you like adobo then paradise market with its 30 choices is ono.

    and if you got some extra cash then, bev gannon’s hanamaile restaurant never disappoints. it is actually a great lunch spot for you and the wife.


  99. al August 11, 2012 4:09 pm

    and no forget the 4 scoop guri guri at tasaka’s.

  100. kev-1 August 11, 2012 4:10 pm

    Thank you Lava for your utterly optimistic perspective of today’s “scrimmage.” Perhaps we should all cancel our season tickets and forget about even watching. From your perspective, we will be a door mat for every opponent, no one will want to play for us ever again, and Chow will be in a care home taking medicine for dementia. All of this before the season is even over, as you also hint that team morale will diminish.

    Whew! . . . and I was disappointed that I missed it. Sure glad I had better things to do.

    I think a better way for you to end your post would have been to say “Go Warriors!” since you are obviously very excited about the season.

  101. Hilo-Warrior August 11, 2012 4:16 pm

    For everyone who says that this offense is boring. Have you really watched a pro set offense? sure many run plays will be for 2,3,4,5 yards. But its always setting up the big plays. After coaching I learned that it takes roughly 10 or so plays to set up a big plays. Thats like the RnS making 3,4,5 short passes to bring in the safeties to go deep. When the defense is staking the box with 7 or 8 guys they are respecting the run. If you have 8 men in the box you have a safety in the box and you can take your shot deep. And YAC do you not watch football? Just because you run a designed route doesn’t mean you are going to go down right away.

    It takes HEART to play football. And it saddens me that fans here don’t have the HEART to whole heartedly support the guys that are working the tails off to make us proud. Give them a chance. Give coach a chance. He worked with what he was given at the other schools. This is his show let him show his vision and philosophy on the field to us before we all start hating on something that hasn’t even taken off the ground at full speed yet. I mean have all of you doubters really seen them work yet?

    Wheres the HEART and the Warrior Pride?

    I got it how about the rest of you.


  102. Hilo-Warrior August 11, 2012 4:30 pm

    There were multiple formations and it seems to rely on quick reads by the QB…thinking/hoping that will come with time and more reps. Gotta remember this was their first day under live fire.

    And a big thing that will change how we look at this offense is how well SnS makes his pre snap read. That is one of the times that the defense is showing itself to the offense. If he can get that down and make his checks at the line we will be alright. But like it was said. This was its first day under fire.

  103. Kekoa August 11, 2012 4:33 pm

    Right attitude Hilo-Warrior. You said it.

    Go Warriors…because you can.

  104. NYUH August 11, 2012 4:44 pm

    Thanks to all for their reports on the scrimmage. Passing tends to be boring on TV and exciting live while running is exciting on TV and boring live – generally. Besides we all know that boredom is a response, not a effect. Multiple sets add to the visual interest of the game.

  105. al August 11, 2012 4:49 pm

    if you have any idea of what it takes to develop a program or have been involved in that procress then you would know that this scrimmage does not fortell the future of our warrior program.

    today’s scrimmage sorts out where we are in what we know and where we need to go from here. i am sure to a man, that none of the coaches were expecting a 100% performance nor declare that we are now ready to take on usc.

    all it is today is a measuring stick and way to evaluate our players.

    afterall, it is my guess that we don’t even have 30% of what we want to do or be at. not after just one spring fling and less than two weeks of practice.

    what is important is that we improve week after week.

    …nuff said.

  106. al August 11, 2012 4:51 pm

    hilo warrior…amene

    btw, you live in hilo, too? i’ll be there one day with one bowl of oxtail stew to my left and one bowl tripe stew to my right sitting in the fourth booth near the window and the bus station at ken’s pancake house. i’ll let you know when i coming over.

  107. Hilo-Warrior August 11, 2012 5:00 pm


    Hey I actually just moved to San Antonio about 3 weeks ago. Super home sick after reading all the food that are sadly absent here.

  108. Garret August 11, 2012 5:20 pm


    I know that you will take a lot of criticism for your post, but the truth generally lies between the completely optimistic and completely pessimistic perspectives. You are entitled to your opinion, and you clearly hope for the best but don’t believe it just yet. The team could surprise you, and anytime a coaching staff and system is overhauled we would expect things to look less than polished early in camp.

    The main thing I wish you would take a look at is the statement that “even winning half the games will be a major accomplishment”. If UH wins 6 games or 12 games UH will play in the Hawaii Bowl, so let us look at the schedule to see the chances of UH making it…I’ll split the games into 3 equal categories:

    Games UH should win, all at Aloha Stadium:


    South Alabama


    New Mexico

    Games that UH has a decent chance to win:

    Nevada at Aloha Stadium (Nevada does NOT have a good history at Aloha Stadium)

    Fresno at Fresno (where UH has been doing well and Fresno also has a new coaching staff so they are an unknown)

    San Diego State at San Diego (SDSU lost almost all of their leaders and stars from last season, I’ll be there with a lot of UH fans to try to reduce SDSU’s home field advantage)

    Colorado State at Fort Collins

    Games that UH will be the underdog:

    at USC

    at BYU

    at Air Force

    Boise State

    So, even if UH doesn’t pull off the upsets in the last category, UH just needs to win 2 out of 4 games in the middle category…and I think they will get at least 2 of those games. So, even when I try to think like a pessimist I think that UH will make the Hawaii Bowl.

    This schedule is quite different than many in the past because the games UH needs to win tend to be at home and the teams that UH would be underdogs at are generally on the road. So, going 12-0 would be really difficult with this schedule, but going 7-5 or 6-6 is not crazy to hope for. If UH beats the D-IAA school and the school that just moved up to D-IA, plus 2 of the worst teams in D-IA, then UH will only have to win 2 out of the other 8 games to make the Hawaii Bowl. 2 out of 8. Remember, Wyoming is supposed to be one of the better MWC schools this season but UH doesn’t play them.

  109. mo808 August 11, 2012 5:24 pm

    Mahalo to Hilo-Warrior and Al for the balanced perspectives! It won’t be easy but I know the team will give their all to buy in and do what Coach Chow asks of them! I can’t wait to see how it all comes together! Like Coach says, “Let’s do this this together!” Go Warriors!

  110. mo808 August 11, 2012 5:27 pm

    Garret, thanks for your post! I am liking our chances to become bowl eligible or better!

  111. Bugaz August 11, 2012 5:33 pm

    I’m sure theres a lot of work that needs to be done to get better, and I am sure it will. I am greatful that there were no serious injuries reported.

  112. d1shima August 11, 2012 5:42 pm

    At this point in the new regime if the offense was gashing the defense I’d be real worried….

  113. SteveM August 11, 2012 5:49 pm

    Tonight is the deadline for your “Guess the Young Tsai-ko” photo contribution.

    It isn’t so much about how easily you will be guessed… it’s about trying to guess the others…and this one could be real challenging. The photos I’ve seen are cooler than the Fonz…and I think I saw his Tsai-ko counterpart in there too. 😆

    Do you think you know the Tsai-kos? Well, step right up! The price of admission to this show is one “old” photo of you in high school-to-mid 20’s.

  114. BigHiloFan2 August 11, 2012 5:52 pm

    Hilo Warrior. well said


    Garett’s analysis is right on. Plus, Boise State los plenty starters last season, and Norm Chow got points to prove, so I have us at 10 wins.

    thanks for the practice updates today guys. that, along with St’s 2 page reports today, and I’m jackt up!!!!!!!!!!!

  115. Haleakala August 11, 2012 5:54 pm

    UCLA coach Jim Mora has selected a redshirt freshman to be the starting QB. I guess if you got it, the coaches will recognize it no matter how young you are. One of the senior QB’s is Kevin Prince who was once recruited heavily by UH.

  116. Haleakala August 11, 2012 5:55 pm

    Wow! It’s amazing that one can determine how the season will go after watching one early training camp scrimmage. That’s pretty good.

  117. Da Punchbowl Kid August 11, 2012 5:56 pm

    Watched the scrimmage. LOTS of players got reps.

    I saw today more as an evaluation session as opposed to a snapshot of what we are going to look like come the SC game. There are areas where work is needed, areas where good progress is noted. My take away is that you could see the team starting to fit Coach Chow’s mold. That’s definitely a positive.

    To be sure, the team faces a lot of hard work at Hickam/Pearl. We need to fix some things, but in Chow, his staff and in the Warriors we trust.

    Got to meet some of Lakalaka’s ‘ohana. Super people. Good to see Braddah YA again. Lakalaka’s got a bright future ahead.

    Fine effort by the team, in front of a nice crowd. Great to see a contingent of Tsaikos on the hill. With the trees now bolohead, I dub the grass practice field “Haleakala”. House of the Sun. Let it shine Warriors!


  118. Da Punchbowl Kid August 11, 2012 6:03 pm

    #115 –

    d1 – there were some big plays on both sides. Defense plays with a lot of heart and intensity.

  119. Da Punchbowl Kid August 11, 2012 6:05 pm

    Polymom –

    Said hi to your Warrior today, he’s doing well and got some quality reps. He’s another young’un with a great future.

  120. Ben A. Lurker August 11, 2012 6:06 pm

    44. AG

    AG = class act

  121. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 11, 2012 6:08 pm

    Hope everyone exercised their right to vote today!

    Good luck to the candidates!

  122. BigHiloFan2 August 11, 2012 6:13 pm


    haleakala. ahem….

    don’t mention it. but since you did….

    thank you thank you. thank you. and thank you.


  123. Haleakala August 11, 2012 6:20 pm

    BigHiloFan2: Hahaha. You are certainly very welcome. LOL.

  124. gigi-hawaii August 11, 2012 6:24 pm

    mahalo, Garret. Excellent analysis.

  125. gigi-hawaii August 11, 2012 6:24 pm

    gonna eat pan pizza supreme from pizza hut, so ciao for now.

  126. A-House August 11, 2012 6:32 pm

    A couple of days ago, MasaBoy and I agreed, separately, while sipping sodas at the Premium Outlet, that UH will go 10 -3 including a Hawaii Bowl victory! He also said that 11 – 1 will place the Warriors in the Fiesta Bowl and a win ending the season at 12 – 1.

    Like Hilo Warrior said, you gotta have HEART!!! Lots and lots of HEART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Remember the song – You’ve gotta have heart, lots and lots of heart – even when you’re down.

  127. BleedGreen808 August 11, 2012 6:49 pm

    I truly enjoyed the team singing the school fight song LOUD and PROUD. Only hoped most of the fans had stayed to cheer them on at the end.

  128. gigi-hawaii August 11, 2012 6:53 pm

    Jason taught us the school fight song at a tailgate and at a blog party. He even typed and printed copies of the song for us.

  129. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 11, 2012 6:57 pm

    6-6 or 11-1 means the exact same thing — Hawaii Bowl.

  130. gigi-hawaii August 11, 2012 6:59 pm

    If we go to the Hawaii Bowl, which conference will we play?

  131. kapakahi August 11, 2012 7:10 pm


    Gotta agee with you…..that the scrimmage was really a player evaluation session. Lots of reps for the true frosh (Lakalaka, Fonua, Phillips, Jackson, Garcia-Williams, etc.).

    The whole 1st team LB corp (GDL, TJ & Laurel) was kept out of the scrimmage….as were CBs Grimes & Edwards. Also some experimentation going on with shuffling around the OL personnel.

  132. lava August 11, 2012 7:14 pm


    I hope you are right about our 2012 victory total.

    Based on my digestion of odds-making stuff out of Vegas, UH will only be favored to win in 4 games. Of course, it is so early, no one really knows. I am willing to defer to the Vegas pundits at this juncture, especially when UH is clearly at a disadvantage for road games, and Boise State and Nevada at home are going to be very difficult games.

    Although my post came across as very negative to some, there is another way to read it. I will concede, right now, that Chow had a successful year if the team gets 6 wins. I doubt, however, that the optimists who are convinced we will win 8 games are prepared to concede, right now, that Chow had a disappointing year if he falls short of 8 wins?

    I enjoyed your post, and hope you are right.

    Go Warriors!

  133. Da Punchbowl Kid August 11, 2012 7:28 pm

    #131 –

    That was sweet! You could feel da chikkin skin! 😉

  134. WarriorNY August 11, 2012 7:40 pm


    I believe CUSA is still locked into a deal woth the Hawaii Bowl…


    Thanks for your posts on practice. Your honest perspective is well appreciated; though, I am an optimist at heart. I believe we can win 10 games this year but i will not be dissatisfied if we only win 4. I think all of us understand that UH is in a transition year especially on offense but are hopeful we can get through it…

    As an optimist though, when you see failure or mediocrity on offense, I just see a great defense…

  135. RedZone August 11, 2012 7:58 pm

    Not surprised with coach trying to evaluate players. Time to setup the travel squad and concentrate on the first game. The upcoming practices are the ones I would really want to see.

  136. gigi-hawaii August 11, 2012 8:13 pm

    mahalo, WNew York!

  137. gigi-hawaii August 11, 2012 8:15 pm

    I guess everybody is watching election coverage on TV. Me, too.

    Goodnight, all.

  138. BigHiloFan2 August 11, 2012 8:54 pm

    Howzit Tsaikos.

    I am hopeful too.


  139. Curt August 11, 2012 9:07 pm

    I wonder how the QBs looked today. Anybody have an idea?

  140. Ben A Lurker August 11, 2012 10:36 pm

    wow i guess manny pacquiao’s spot on espn really helped

    gabbard beat mufi

  141. Ben A Lurker August 11, 2012 10:38 pm

    134. / 138. Hawaii Bowl

    Now in its 11th year, the bowl will pit a team from the Mountain West Conference against a team from Conference USA. The game will be played on Christmas Eve for the eighth time.

    “The Sheraton Hawai‘i Bowl will be broadcast on ESPN on Christmas Eve on an unopposed prime time slot,” said David Matlin, Sheraton Hawai‘i Bowl Executive Director. “While folks are enjoying their Christmas Eve in frigid winter conditions, they can tune in to watch Monday night football in paradise.”

  142. mo808 August 12, 2012 12:02 am

    Puppy dog patrol woke me up but remembered that the Persiads Meteor shower isthist…check it out:

    There’s a cool video link there and best viewing during pre dawn on the August 12th!

    You can even download a free meteor counter from the app store to be a part of NASA research

    …okay, I would have preferred to have not woken up!

  143. mo808 August 12, 2012 12:03 am

    isthist=is now

  144. wafan August 12, 2012 1:41 am

    An early good morning to all.

  145. wafan August 12, 2012 1:43 am

    Earlier posts sure are glass half empty/full scenarios.

    The truth is in there somewhere.

    Does not matter, though.

    Go Warriors!

  146. manoa August 12, 2012 1:47 am

    I try not to think about how the wins and losses play out until we have played a few games.

    There is a lot to learn on both defense and offense, so even the early games won’t tell the tale until the teams gets up to full speed.

    I have learned to like every offense we have had from the triple option spread of Paul Johnson to the run and shoot– although it took a little adjustment.

  147. wafan August 12, 2012 1:55 am

    Congratulations to the newly elected and re-elected.

    Now, get to work.

  148. Moocher August 12, 2012 2:05 am

    for first downs why cant the band director make a simple beat and then the student section and fans simply yell out in unison…imua-hana hou like 3x. one side of the stadium yell out imua and the other side yell out hana hou. IMHO….i think the younger generation might go for that more then one side yelling rain and the other side yelling bows.

  149. wafan August 12, 2012 2:23 am

    Thanks for the articles and information, Mr. Tsai!


  150. wafan August 12, 2012 2:30 am

    Awesome photo work in Waikiki 73. If you have not viewed the photos . . . beautiful work!

    Mr. Yanagi definitely has an eye to create art.

  151. Garret August 12, 2012 2:58 am


    If you are just looking at who Vegas is favoring in each game, then you are probably correct that UH will be favorites in 4 games and underdogs in 8 games. However, UH will only be *slight* underdogs in at least 4 games and will be heavy favorites in 4 games.

    So, while Vegas might give UH a less-than-50% chance to win each of the individual 8 games, the Vegas lines would indicate the probability of UH winning 2 or 3 of the 8 games. If all you are going is by Vegas odds, you should actually be encouraged, not discouraged.

    Probability example: let us say that you flip a coin that is heads 51% of the time and tales 49% of the time. So, the odds say that heads would be more likely to happen ever time. But after 4 flips of the coin, the chance that no tails comes up is 0.057%. In other words, you would get 0 times less than 6 times out of a 100, you would get 2 tails or 1 tail over 15 times more often than 0 tails.

  152. Garret August 12, 2012 3:00 am

    This RB who chose between UH and BYU is now going to be playing for Fresno State. Since UH plays both schools every year, UH will still face him. I’ve read that Quezada’s brother passed away last year and wanting to be closer to home was a factor in his transfer.

    The Universe has learned that running back Joshua Quezada will transfer from BYU to Fresno State.

    Quezada was expected to compete with tailback Michael Alisa for carries this seasons. The opening created by Quezada’s transfer is expected to be filled by Adam Hine, David Foote and freshman tailback Jamaal Williams.

  153. Garret August 12, 2012 3:05 am

    USC’s starting left tackle from last season is in the NFL now and their new starting left tackle is a sophomore who never played in college yet…who is too injured to participate in training camp even though the start of the season is so close.

    This is a good example about how having 10 less scholarships has hurt USC’s depth. Right now USC’s first team is practicing with a walk-on at left tackle, backed up by a freshman.

    USC Coach Lane Kiffin installed Aundrey Walker as the starting left tackle during spring practice, but the 6-foot-6 sophomore has been sidelined for most of the first week of camp because of injuries.

    With the Sept. 1 opener against Hawaii three weeks away, walk-on Nathan Guertler, a 6-5, 270-pound redshirt sophomore from Norco, continues to work in Walker’s place. Freshman Max Tuerk also worked at the spot Saturday.,0,168973.story

  154. chopsueyboy August 12, 2012 3:39 am

    time for. Olympic Gold in basketball.

    USA! USA! USA!

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