Check-out time


After 14 nights in the two dance studios that have served as the training-camp base, the Warriors today checked out and moved into the dorms, off-campus housing or their family homes.

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It was an eventful day. The Warriors learned that a generator, equipment and special tools to fix equipment were stolen from a storage shed next to the grass practice field. The generator was used, for among many things, to power the JUGS machine.

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According to


In 17 more days . . .



  1. HawaiiMongoose August 17, 2011 6:35 am


  2. Bugaz August 17, 2011 6:35 am

    camp next year at the stadium. lol

  3. HawaiiMongoose August 17, 2011 6:35 am

    Mornin’ all.

  4. jm2375 August 17, 2011 6:35 am


    Good morning!

  5. Bugaz August 17, 2011 6:38 am

    Great idea Coach Mack, as long as a few practices could be open to the public. Ummm and we can just warm up our seats.

  6. Stephen Tsai August 17, 2011 6:39 am

    For all of Miami’s mess, it was interesting to read about the “living scholar” program, which apparently is approved by the NCAA.

    The “living scholar” pays for a full scholarship. I guess it’s an expansion of the adopt-a-highway theme. Hawaii has such a program, too. It’s called paying for your kids’ tuition and, for many, it begins as early as kindergarten.

  7. Bugaz August 17, 2011 6:39 am

    Coach Tomey on the Radio talking bout ST play, and says Harding has the best hands for fielding punts.

  8. Stephen Tsai August 17, 2011 6:42 am

    It’s not easy being a punt returner.

    First, Alex Dunnachie has had probably only two practices of live punts.

    And he’s been booming them high. With that little twist on the football, it forces the returner to run up and catch it in traffic. It’s one of those things where the PR knows he’s not going to get hit, but still …

    Sometimes a swing that stops an inch from somebody’s jaw is more terrifying than the actual contact.

  9. Stephen Tsai August 17, 2011 6:44 am

    Re: “…talking about ST play.”

    At first glance, I thought: Tomey is watching me?

  10. Bulla August 17, 2011 6:49 am

    what you playing ST? 🙂

  11. Bulla August 17, 2011 6:50 am



  12. LizKauai (iPhone) August 17, 2011 6:52 am

    Happy Hump Day!

  13. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 7:16 am


    You forgot the “with,”…

    Morning Tsaiko World!

  14. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 7:20 am

    Paste… Congrats to former Rainbow Warrior, Bill Amis..

    Former University of Hawai`i men’s basketball player Bill Amis has signed with Trefl Sopot in the Polish Basketball League, the highest level basketball league in Poland.

  15. NYUH August 17, 2011 7:22 am

    Hats off to London Sapolu for sticking with it. It must be hard living up to his father’s reputation. I hope he does really well this year.

  16. NYUH August 17, 2011 7:24 am

    That is great that Amis signed with Poland. While the NBA money is certainly great, traveling from Houston, to Indianapolis, to Charlotte. zzzzz

  17. Garret August 17, 2011 7:26 am

    You know that the season is getting really close when the Warriors check out of the dance studios…17 days until the first game!

  18. mctruck August 17, 2011 7:26 am

    Waiting very patiently for fb season to start, just like the Klondike bar commercial….brrrrrrh, start already.

    Tanks for the pics of the new turf, ST.

    Good morning Tsaikos….be well.

  19. Garret August 17, 2011 7:27 am

    Sports Authority sure opened up their checkbook for the Broncos stadium.

    National retailer Sports Authority has extended its footprint by acquiring naming rights to the NFL’s Denver Broncos’ home field for $150 million.

    The former Invesco Field at Mile High will now be known as Sports Authority Field at Mile High.

  20. mctruck August 17, 2011 7:29 am

    Hmmmmm???, seems like bison-meat is better nutritionally speaking.

  21. ai-eee-soos August 17, 2011 7:30 am


  22. Garret August 17, 2011 7:32 am

    Apparently 2 of the schools on the list that the Big 12 drew up as possibilities are UNLV and San Diego State. Both were apparently contacted last year when the Big 12 was considering going to 12 teams, but neither were among the top choices for the Big 12.

    If the Big 12 decides to be aggressive with expansion like they are saying, that could mean that UNLV and SDSU could get invitations if schools like BYU, Notre Dame, and Air Force say no. The chance of SDSU and UNLV going to the Big 12 are probably something like 1%…but a MWC without those 2 schools (replacing them with schools like Utah State) would be a letdown to me.

    San Diego and Vegas are 2 of the biggest TV markets that the Big 12 could realistically target with expansion.

  23. mctruck August 17, 2011 7:34 am

    Am I seeing this wrong-o-what???, seems to me that the nfl has decided to delay the supplemental draft primarily to accomadate whats that qb from Ohio State????..seems dat way…and why??? I don’t like putting all the other prospects lives on hold when they played by the rules….what a shame.

  24. warriorsun August 17, 2011 7:36 am

    #7 bugaz,

    thanx, that is primo info. great scott!

  25. mctruck August 17, 2011 7:40 am

    The way I see it….the MWC cannot lose any more teams to anyone. Actually, I was thinking along that lines of SDSU/UNLV…..still, thats quite a distance for them too.

  26. chopsueyboy August 17, 2011 7:41 am

    Good Morning Tsai-kos!

  27. warriorsun August 17, 2011 7:41 am


    tomey was watching you. careful with the camera, he lives in a world of covert operations 🙂

  28. CoolEthan August 17, 2011 7:42 am

    Nice ‘ Old School” logo look for Buffalo.

    Mctruck – Klondike bar. Their commercials on Sportscenter at night, right after dinner. It Hurts, cuz’ no more in the fridge.

  29. CoolEthan August 17, 2011 7:44 am

    On Invesco switching over to Sports Authority.

    Many fans complain, but could be worse.

    one says, Dicks Sporting Goods would of went south.

  30. CoolEthan August 17, 2011 7:45 am

    Guess it all depends on the tide swing :>

  31. polywar4lf August 17, 2011 7:50 am

    Let’s imu some bison$!

  32. Da Punchbowl Kid August 17, 2011 7:56 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂

    Buffalos from the ‘hood are called buffaloes.

    Country club Buffaloes are called Bison.

  33. Da Punchbowl Kid August 17, 2011 7:58 am

    Miami-gate is all over the tube this morning.

  34. (Jesse) James August 17, 2011 8:12 am

    Good morning Tsaikos….Woo Hoo…top 50 today…Hope all have a good one…

    I think ST will be much improved this year (and I don’t mean you ST, you cannot get any better…MWAHAHAHAHAA)…Looks like Coach Tomey is on them about technique and discipline….

    Miami…in trouble again….Sheesh…they had this same problem back in the day when they had all their runs at the National Championship…similar situation where a booster said he was paying players and they were getting special benefits…Sheesh…

  35. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 8:15 am

    If all the allegations are true, this should merit the death penalty for Miami football.

  36. d1shima August 17, 2011 8:21 am

    Who said, “Randy Shannon doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing.”? 😛

  37. koakane ip4 August 17, 2011 8:23 am

    morning all

    Hilo LL seniors wins game and is 3-0 in pool B

  38. Da Punchbowl Kid August 17, 2011 8:32 am


    That’s alls ya gots to know to put the special in special teams. Loved watching the guy on the field last week, he has the energy of a 30yr old and the coaching style of a Jedi Master.

  39. LizKauai August 17, 2011 8:32 am

    GO HILO!!!

  40. Da Punchbowl Kid August 17, 2011 8:32 am

    Did I mention that I like Coach Tomey?

  41. A-House August 17, 2011 8:33 am


    #22 – Vegas a big TV market?

    last I heard the 1.3 million people in and around Vegas is decreasing – are they assuming that the tourists will watch a football game instead of gambling or shopping or whatever?

    Hawaii population is a solid 1.3 million, but guess we are not considered a “big market” – however, if Hawaii plays on the mainland i think more people here and on the mainland will watch then Vegasnites wanting to watch UNLV play knowing that they will probably get smashed by the Big 12 schools.

  42. Da Punchbowl Kid August 17, 2011 8:33 am

    Howdy Liz, kk, d1 and made. Nice to see allayah.

  43. Da Punchbowl Kid August 17, 2011 8:34 am

    Good morning Col.

  44. tom-warriornation August 17, 2011 8:39 am

    Discount tickets (50 yd line) for San Jose St. road game.

    I have 50 yard line seats in Section 130; about 20 rows up, behind our Warriors bench, at $25 each; group rate. All together we will have 200+ Warrior fans sitting in these 10 rows, from row 12 to 21. You can’t get these kine seats at any other stadium. Watch them perform the haka right in front of us–a definite chicken skin moment! This will be the last game at San Jose on Oct. 14, 6pm–a friday nite game!

    Email me at:

    GO WARRIORS! … LID=235120

    ps: The UH sections will be in the corner end zone (section 134 and 135) and those were $45.

  45. Wes'side Warrior August 17, 2011 8:46 am

    Howzit, everyone!

    Wow, Liz! That was some good stuff! Mahalo for the link!

    …I carry the Hawaiian flag out every game to always remind me of what I’m playing for, it’s the Hawaiian culture, the State of Hawaii that I represent. – Bryant Moniz.

  46. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 8:47 am

    UH’s “position by position” series continues today with a preview of the UH secondary.

    With a video interview with Rich Miano

  47. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 8:51 am

    Morning DPK!…

    17 days to high anxiety… got your pills ready?

  48. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 17, 2011 8:51 am

    Las Vegas has around 700,000 TV set homes…Honolulu has around 400,000.

    They have a bigger market than we do but the measure better not be “how many of those TV sets actually give a rip about UNLV…” Lots of Californian and even Hawaii transplants there that don’t follow UNLV. Lol

  49. Slugger August 17, 2011 8:52 am

    Good morning, gang!

  50. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 17, 2011 8:58 am

    Whatever happened to the rasta-colored flag they brought out at the Sugar Bowl?

  51. Garret August 17, 2011 8:58 am


    #22 – Vegas a big TV market?

    last I heard the 1.3 million people in and around Vegas is decreasing – are they assuming that the tourists will watch a football game instead of gambling or shopping or whatever?

    Hawaii population is a solid 1.3 million, but guess we are not considered a “big market” – however, if Hawaii plays on the mainland i think more people here and on the mainland will watch then Vegasnites wanting to watch UNLV play knowing that they will probably get smashed by the Big 12 schools.


    You and I know that Hawaii is just too far for the Big 12 to travel, think of the horrible amount of classroom time lost for all of their athletes, especially the nonrevenue sports that play 2 road games on many weeks. No matter how much we try to prop up the value of Hawaii’s TV market, the fact is that UH had to pay a huge amount of money just to get the MWC and Big West to let them join…with UH agreeing to that one-sided deal, it tells you what UH’s value was to the conferences.

    Now let us look at the facts. Top 100 TV markets in the US:

    28. San Diego

    42. Las Vegas

    72. Honolulu

    Look at the facts about the TV markets. Look at the travel cost and time. Look at the fact that ESPN (through the WAC deal) can show UH games for free in a late-night time slot and doesn’t bother. FOR FREE.

  52. NYUH August 17, 2011 9:10 am

    Any sign that Joe Avery is stepping up? Beefing up? He is fast and tall, would like to see some ROI.

  53. Bowwar August 17, 2011 9:12 am

    From last night: Sorry to hear that Dustin Elisara is reporting on Monday, which kinda indicates that he’s either not playing up to his potential (close to being dropped from the squad) or injured. He showed so much promise his senior year and looked like a “coup” for UH to get…

  54. Bowwar August 17, 2011 9:13 am

    I’m pretty excited to see Harding take the field…He sounds like a very motivated individual and I like his enthusiasm to learn the American brand of football.

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  56. Bowwar August 17, 2011 9:15 am

    Avery is a dilemma…Seems to have the talent, but a couple of things showed up last year when he did get to play:

    1) Can’t seem to take a hit…or has those retractable arms when a hit is forthcoming

    2) Hands of stone…

  57. Old Diver August 17, 2011 9:23 am


    Do you think UNLV and San Diego State would be on the long list for the Pac-12? Besides Texas and the three other schools currently in the Big -12, who do you see as candidates for PAC-12 membership in the next ten years. I am also wondering if the BCS conferences are more concerned about monopolizing college football by including most of the D1A teams in a few super conferences to hold off any anti-trust lawsuits than dividing up the pie into slightly smaller pieces. i.e Six sixteen team football conferences which will make up eighty percent of D1A teams. This is of course for discussion purposes only.

  58. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 17, 2011 9:37 am

    Yeah because Hawaii has to pay for the MWC means we aren’t of value to the MWC…yeah…thats it…couldn’t be anything else right?

    We are MORE than qualified for the MWC but not enough for the PAC12. Simple as that. It’s a tough position for us but a lip-smacking position for the MWC to be in. Couple that with our desire and need to leave the WAC and it gets even more lopsided. The MWC wanted and needed us but we just couldn’t call their bluff.

    We won by getting into the MWC but in the end the MWC got what it needed, wanted, and some extra gravy (travel subs) that they got out of being in a better position than us.

    Just our PPV money potential alone brings more to the conference than a bunch of the schools already there PLUS we have better BCS numbers than half of them PLUS we are better recruiting grounds than half of them.

  59. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 9:37 am

    No more strawberry fields for our Warriors, eh? At least not when they play at home… Das good!

  60. (Jesse) James August 17, 2011 9:41 am

    Old Diver #58…I’ve heard talk on ESPN about the super conference concept. I did find it puzzling that they were talking about 4 16-team super conferences in Division 1 college football and how that would make up basically the national championship scenarios and who would be in those conferences. The thing I was thinking about was, that makes up only 64 teams out of 109 or so D1 schools…what are they going to do with the rest of the schools in that scenario??? A new division of football??? As spock used to say, “Illogical captain….” LMAO

  61. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 9:44 am

    I still say our Athletic program has to invest heavily in the key sports over the next few years and really find some tangible marketable differences. For football the RnS on Offense and a solid, hard-hitting, turnover causing Defense. For Basketball we need to get to the NCAA tournament with greater frequency — that alone should pay for the Head Coach + assistant coaches salary increases. We also need to get a UH ‘owned’ mascot that can be shown on TV without extra monetary ASSessment.

  62. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 17, 2011 9:45 am

    There are schools like Wazzu and Vanderbilt that bring jack diddly to the table in terms of sports yet get allllllllll the $$$$$$ in the world…

    I am willing to accept that there are teams that bring TONS of value to a program but get jack diddly in return…

  63. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 17, 2011 9:46 am

    #63 program=Conference

  64. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 9:47 am

    (Jesse) James:

    I think I posted this a couple days ago…

    Super Conference = Div I$

    Top 32 of remaining 55 = Div IA

    Bottom 23 = Div I.O.U.

  65. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 9:48 am

    Maybe the second division should be…

    Div I-a-bee

  66. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 9:49 am


    Div IAB (prounounced – ‘wannabe’)

  67. haka August 17, 2011 9:49 am

    Boot Camp may be over, but the fight has just begun. 17 days until the first skirmish and we need to keep grinding the axe. The natives are getting excited, but the Warriors must remain focused, disciplined and establish their mental intensity. The buffalo herd is in clear sight now.

  68. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 17, 2011 9:50 am


    Unfortunately the 64 teams (assuming they are all BCS which they probably will be) don’t care about the leftovers. They don’t care about us now, they won’t in the future. =(

    The NCAA is made up of schools who then go and govern…those same schools. Hah!

    The 64 will probably just break away from the NCAA and form their own league, their own rules, their own everything.

  69. wafan August 17, 2011 9:51 am

    Happy Hump Day!

  70. wafan August 17, 2011 9:53 am

    Long before the the westward expansion proud Warriors hunted and used bison for food and shelter.

    A little over 2-weeks before the big hunt!

    Go Warriors!


  71. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 17, 2011 9:54 am

    Am I the ONLY PERSON that thinks we are of great value to the MWC???

  72. wafan August 17, 2011 9:59 am

    How similar are the allegations against Miami compared to those substantiated at SMU?

    UM sounds worse.

    Death penalty in the wings? Or are they too big and have too many friends in the good ‘ol boys club to have much more than a slap on the wrist, a firm finger wag, and a strong admonision not to get caught again?

  73. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 17, 2011 10:00 am

    So I like the green of the HA Field…But why did they have to change the endzones to Hawaii-Hawaii…I like the Hawaii-Warriors better.

    Oh and is it just the pictures or are the endzone colors a deeper/darker green than the rest of the field?

  74. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 10:11 am


    If not the death penalty, maybe UoM should be forced to go independent with 30 less scholies and no post season for 5 years.

  75. d1shima August 17, 2011 10:13 am


    August 17th, 2011 at 9:45 am

    There are schools like Wazzu and Vanderbilt that bring jack diddly to the table in terms of sports yet get allllllllll the $$$$$$ in the world…

    I am willing to accept that there are teams that bring TONS of value to a program but get jack diddly in return…

    Having Alumni in the right places.

  76. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 10:13 am

    Of course that would make the conference scramble like crazy… heh… as if things couldn’t be worse.

  77. Kevin August 17, 2011 10:13 am


    If you’re the only that thinks we are of value to the MWC, then that’s all that matters.

    You’ve stated reasons that you believe to be true based on what you see so that’s all that should count to you.

    On the outside, one cannot deny we paid a price to join the MWC and BWC and FSU and UNR didn’t. (Excluded BSU since three of us are not at BSU’s football level yet).

    Personally, I think we are of asset to the MWC considering our fanbase on the West Coast and what we can bring to the UNLV games in terms of tourism dollars when we are at Vegas. That’s one thing I know right off the bat.

    For me, did the MWC need us more than we needed them. A quick answer is NO. But considering the MWC’s position at the time of losing TCU.. Well, we were a better option that Utah State considering our Sagarin rating and the fact that we had SOME browning points in defeating FSU and then ranked #18 UNR. I’d void myself thinking what would happen to UH if we did NOT beat FSU and UNR last season…

    I already FULLY expected travel subsidies and honestly I couldn’t blame the MWC and ESPECIALLY the BWC for asking this of us and I knew right off the bat, as did many we were going to pay no matter what. I doesn’t take a genius to figure out the financial repercussions and the subsequent eventual death of the UH athletic program as a whole if we stayed in the post-2012 WAC or even tried to go INDY.

  78. (Jesse) James August 17, 2011 10:14 am

    IWWTHM…I understand the rationale of #69….Okay homey, mind out of gutter…MWAHAHAHAHA…

    I just found it funny that nobody at ESPN mentioned that there are more than 64 DI teams and it was sort of like those other teams never existed….like the vanishing deductibles at Nationwide….LMAO

  79. d1shima August 17, 2011 10:14 am


    All that will accomplish is push UCF and USF along that much faster.

  80. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 10:20 am

    It will be interesting to see if the NCAA will stand firm or sweep it all under the rug again.

  81. Kevin August 17, 2011 10:23 am

    No, the NCAA WILL stand FIRM.

    One needs a firm stance, feet a little shoulder-width apart creating a sturdy base for leverage when SWEEPING somthing this size underneath a rug.

  82. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 17, 2011 10:26 am

    According to Thompson, BCS AQ status is a top priority for the MWC. Does UH add or subtract from their goal to reach that?

    Where on the ladder are we in comparison to current MWC teams and teams that both want in and the MWC may be willing to consider?

    We needed the MWC simply because we didn’t have a house to go to when our current one imploded…We don’t need their TV money, in fact our PPV makes more than they could give us currently. It has nothing to do with who we are as a program, our success, our ability to sell our product to local TV sets etc.

  83. David Burlison August 17, 2011 10:27 am

    Well done site-very interesting/informative..


    (Feel free to post on our forum)

  84. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 10:28 am


    Some boosters will help fund the investigation for those NCAA inspectors beginning with paying for the one-on-one interviewing of the local prostitutes ….

  85. SteveM August 17, 2011 10:28 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Time for moving out of the dance studios.

    Classes start soon. Traffic.

    17 days…

  86. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 17, 2011 10:30 am

    Oh and please don’t misinterpret my comments as being ANTI-MWC…I am one who is VERY VERY happy to be going there from the very beginning.

    I am also OK with travel subsidies as that what the market and our situation commanded. Absolutely no problems there.

    Im just commenting on the perception that Hawaii is some ugly betty bird with a broken wing that is not worth much to a conference like the MWC. Simply not true.

  87. jojo ® August 17, 2011 10:34 am

    Where can I buy bison meat here in Honolulu

  88. Kevin August 17, 2011 10:37 am


    August 17th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    According to Thompson, BCS AQ status is a top priority for the MWC. Does UH add or subtract from their goal to reach that?

    Our Sagarin rating counted TOWARDS it, including our Top 25 from last season. So for NOW it adds. NOW… whether or not we continue to add or SUBTRACT from it is now all on us…

  89. Kevin August 17, 2011 10:38 am


    August 17th, 2011 at 10:30 am

    … some ugly betty bird with a broken wing that is not worth much to a conference like the MWC. Simply not true.

    Please leave Utah State out of this.

  90. jojo ® August 17, 2011 10:39 am

    IWWTHM- your name says it all

  91. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 10:41 am

    Uh should have added a few stipulations to their MWC subsidies… that for every week that they are ranked during the season, they receive 8% of their total subsidy pay out refunded… and if they end the season ranked, they should receive some other kind of bonus as well … if that’s not already in the conference bylaws.

  92. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 10:43 am


    I’m with you on the MWC membership … I was very happy that our Warrior program got in.. but rather chagrin over the conditions. I felt like we bent over a little too much for too little and this dispute over PPV money may make matters worse. The Sheraton Bowl is also in question, too.

  93. mctruck August 17, 2011 10:43 am

    Whatever happened to that saying, “Whatever happens in Miami, stays in Miami?”……oh!, a little birdie says it’s, “whateva happens in Vegas.” bwaaahahaha!!!

  94. Mario August 17, 2011 10:45 am

    As for the San diego market, I lived there during the Marshall Faulk days and prior to him showing up and after he left, SDSU fans really do not follow their team. Yes San Diego has a bigger larger market but as for quality fans, I’ll take Hawaii fans anyday. Win or lose, Hawaii fans bleed warrior blood year in and year out. So as for the market, once someone realizes that Hawaii may not be ranked high in value for its population, but I guarantee that they are up there when it comes to diehard warrior fans. Take note that Hawaii fans travel well. Look at the Holiday bowl back in the 90s and the Sugar Bowl. There are lots of Hawaii fans on the mainland also. Make me the commissioner for the PAC-12 and I would bring in Hawaii anyday because not only is Hawaii a sellout at home, on the road would be helping the other University’s fill seats from all the Hawaiian ex-patriots. Case in point, 2007 at San Jose State. Seemed like 40% of the stadium was Hawaii fans. I never saw so many locals in the mainland ever. It was great to see.

  95. mctruck August 17, 2011 10:47 am

    Looks like the big12 members are getting fedup with A&M’s go-stay to the SEC, or better yet….just make a decision, so we can move on with our lives situation.

  96. Hawaiianbod August 17, 2011 10:50 am

    jojo – Safeway sells ground bison. It’s pretty good, although quite expensive.

  97. jojo ® August 17, 2011 10:58 am

    Thanks Hawaiianbod! Cam make burgers for t-gate then…hehe

  98. koakane ip4 August 17, 2011 10:58 am

    shouting howzit to hbod

    jojo saw you yesterday but looked busy so quietly left. don’t think what the haole guy was saying was the truth. think they stalling. what plumber said.


  99. koakane August 17, 2011 10:59 am


  100. koakane ip4 August 17, 2011 11:02 am

    wow didn’t think I stood a chance to hit the century mark. thanks all for holding back.

  101. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 17, 2011 11:02 am


    Also, its not like we have consistently been in the bottom half of the DIV1..Quite the opposite.

    The overall ratings of a conference is 1 part of the BCS equation. If we continue to do will Top 35 etc then hey thats a plus.

    But even being top 60 is OK, decent, won’t absolutely murder the numbers either.

    I think we can at least handle that. Same can’t be said for some of the other members of the MWC who really need to pick up their game.

  102. jojo ® August 17, 2011 11:06 am

    Yup, my contractor is full of it, but I digress

  103. Hawaiianbod August 17, 2011 11:09 am

    howzit kk!

    here’s hoping for those who are not residing in the dorms that they have a place to stay, especially those from the mainland and not on scholorship.

  104. A-joe August 17, 2011 11:13 am

    Two keys for Hawaii getting into the PAC-12.

    -Higher academics

    -Market potential

    Upper campus needs to make more of an effort to establish themselves as world leaders in Oceanography and Space. We’re surrounded by killer elements that other world renown institutions come to study in and stake their claims.

    -We’re the only University in the nation that has direct access to their states visitor marketing department. UH should be taking full advantage of this.

    -There has been a recent push to look for athletes among the Pacific rim to play for UH. Also broadcasting rights into Asian markets to drum up brand awareness.

    -UH should be teaming up with the HVB and sending all of our UH teams to penetrate deep into the US markets. Send our softball team to play in SEC team tournaments. Send our baseball and basketball teams to play in ACC tournaments. Send our women Volleyball team to play in Big 10 and 12 tournaments. Have reps tag along from HVB and UH promoting both Hawaii and UH.

    UH needs to capitalize on their assets. Use them to their advantage.

    -In 2001 UH went to the NCAA tourney and played Syracuse in Dayton, Ohio. Three days before the game a booth was set up at the Center with UH memorabilia. In two hours everything was sold out! A buyer was asked why did he buy a shirt. He replied, “I’m never going to Hawaii in my lifetime. But, this is one opportunity Hawaii has come to me.”

    -In the 90’s a study was conducted with 6th grade students. They were asked if they could go anywhere in the world, where would it be. The number 1 answer was Disneyland. Number 2 was Hawaii.

    -People of Toronto were ask if they wanted to go on a tropical vacation where would it be. The Bahamas and Cabo San Lucas came to mind. When asked why those destinations many said that it was closest they could come to being in Hawaii.

    -In Japan, it’s a prestigious practice to buy Big Island Candies and prominently display it’s unopened package in their homes. There’s over 3000 halaus in Japan.

    -There’s over 6 billion people in the world. The US has just over 300 Million. Only 6.9 million people visited Hawaii last year. We have a finite infrastructure that that caps the amount of visitors we can have.

    -The best known college football program is Notre Dame. I can assure you “Hawaii” is more well known than “Notre Dame” in parts of the world where no one has a clue what football is.

    -Take schools named after their states- Michigan, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, Kansas, Washington, Oregon… Hawaii will trump them all COMBINED in name awareness around the world.

    UH needs to capitalize on this brand awareness thats already out there. Once they have a firm grip on it and demonstrate it’s use, any conference will approach UH with a deal.

  105. markazulu August 17, 2011 11:15 am

    A interesting read about Colorado preparing for Hawaii

    The majority of Colorado game plans from the past five seasons likely ended up in the Dal Ward Center shredder over the winter.

    But there was at least one game — check that, one half — of useful strategy executed by the Buffs that should be included by the new staff in the 2011 blue prints.

    After trailing 10-0 at halftime in the Folsom Field opener last season, CU ran the ball, dominated the line of scrimmage, and beat a good Hawaii team 31-13.

    “We wanted to really come out and run the ball and show we could run the ball. That’s what we did; we came out and we ran the ball,” right guard Ryan Miller said after the Sept. 18, 2010 victory over the Warriors. “So next weekend, I think we should come out and run the ball.”

    Unfortunately, the Buffs had a bye the next weekend. Although Rodney Stewart ran wild during a victory over Georgia, CU eventually reverted back to a spread passing attack and a 3-1 start quickly turned into 3-6 and resulted in a coaching change.

    Jon Embree has made no secret of his desire for the Buffs to be a run-first team entering the Pac-12. That’s how the program’s only Big 12 championship was won in 2001 when he was a Gary Barnett assistant.

    The first-year CU head coach knows the best way to start the season 1-0 is to keep Hawaii quarterback m on the sideline.

    The perceived mismatch between the Warriors’ passing attack, which led the nation with 5,520 yards and 42 touchdowns in 2010, and CU’s inexperienced cornerbacks is the foremost reason why the wise guys have the Buffs as 11-point underdogs.

    “It’s hard to practice against because nobody runs that style of offense. Our offense certainly doesn’t do anything remotely close to that,” CU defensive coordinator Greg Brown said of Hawaii’s five-receiver attack. “You need extra defensive backs to get into the game, and we’re very thin as it is with people. The clock is ticking. It’s a deal where we need to come up with some people and put them out there in our schemes where we can give ourselves a chance.”

    The Buffs, of course, lost starting cornerbacks Jimmy Smith and Jalil Brown to the NFL. An army of defensive backs have been auditioning to replace the diligent duo since the first spring football practice.

    Parker Orms, Travis Sandersfeld, Greg Henderson, Paul Vigo and Ayodeji Olatoye are emerging as the cornerbacks likely to be included on the flight to Honolulu.

    “Anytime you lose guys like Jimmy and Jalil, they’re going to leave a big hole no matter who is behind them,” senior safety Anthony Perkins said. “But there are a lot of young corners who are eager to get in there. They’re not shying away from anything, and that’s great to see.”

    Moniz completed 65 percent of his passes last season for 5,040 yards (387.7 per game) with 39 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. The Buffs, who would have been down 24-0 if not for a pair of goal-line stands by the defense, limited Hawaii’s best player to 330 yards passing with one touchdown and one

    Hawaii QB Bryant Moniz gets trapped in the endzone by Jon Major (31) and Tyler Ahles, both of CU. He fumbled and the play resulted in a safety for CU Cliff Grassmick / September 18, 2010 ( Cliff Grassmick )interception.

    Stewart finished the Hawaii game with 107 yards rushing and two touchdowns. Brian Lockridge added 111 yards rushing. CU, despite falling behind by double digits, rushed the ball 52 times and passed 26 times (Tyler Hansen completed 19 of the attempts for 200 yards and two touchdowns) en route to the victory.

    “They definitely throw a lot, so we’ll get our chances,” safety Ray Polk said of the Warriors. “We want a good, consistent corner that knows his stuff. That’s what we’re starting to get, and it’s exciting because we’re starting to see that in these young corners.”

    Locally, much of the focus during fall camp has been on CU’s unknown acumen at cornerback, but Moniz lost his top three weapons — receivers Greg Salas and Kealoha Pilares, and 1,000-yard running back Alex Green — to the NFL. The Warriors also return just one starting offensive lineman, left tackle Austin Hansen, for the rematch at Aloha Stadium.

    Based on practice performance, it appears CU’s defensive line will be a team strength this season. If the Buffs have an advantage up front it would certainly help the unseasoned members of the secondary.

    “We’ve all got to make each other better because I don’t really feel like we’re going to have a set corner,” said Orms, who returned to practice on Monday after missing most of camp with a sore leg. “I think we’re going to have guys rotating in that want to play, and we’ve all got to learn how to work hard.”

    The Buffs open the season at Hawaii on Sept. 3. The game plan? Embree had it constructed in April.

    “If you are going to be a physical team, you need to run the ball and implement your will on the other team,” Embree said at football media day. “The other thing is that it helps our defense.

    “I laugh sometimes when people throw out these defensive statistics. Well, if you are on the field all the time, you are not going to be a good defense. When you’re on defense and you want every guy running to the ball every play, then you have to limit their plays.”

    Hopefully Mcmackin see’s this 🙂

  106. markazulu August 17, 2011 11:17 am

    An If you guys wanna read it yourselves at the actual website here is the link

    Oh an their is also a video interview with I believe their coach! After practice on the 16th

  107. Slugger August 17, 2011 11:29 am


    Thanks for the article.

  108. Jayson August 17, 2011 11:30 am

    Check out post #33, I have to admit, that is a little funny.

  109. Kevin August 17, 2011 11:31 am

    Seeing and hearing the excitement from the newbie student-athletes moving into the dorms is amazing indeed.

    It’s everyday for us fans, but for them, a whole new chapter and a lot of promise for the next four years.

  110. Slugger August 17, 2011 11:31 am


    Brilliant observations. Maybe you should send them in to Upper Campus & JD.

  111. A-House August 17, 2011 11:55 am


    #49 – your figures are telling me that only 400,000 homes in Hawaii have TV sets?

    who came up with those figures? that’s interesting – in my neighbor hood of 600 homes, every house has a TV set. in my childhood neighbor hood of 3-400 homes, all have TVs. how do they count?

  112. Garret August 17, 2011 11:57 am


    Those are excellent ideas. Unfortunately, Upper Campus is looking at making huge cutbacks and raising tuition within 2 years. There is nobody there with a vision to do what needs to get done.

    I’ve personally talked with a number of people at UH and with a good number of Hawaii Legislators. I beat my head against a wall for over a year and have been talking with people inside at UH for over 5 years.

    I’m not going to name names on a blog, but I am quite frustrated and believe that I have a reason to be that way.

  113. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 11:58 am

    Interesting that through all this conference shakeups, the guy we have come to lean on to shape our football program and guide it to the next level has been and is McMackin. Amid all the criticism regarding things he said, bowl losses, and complaints about his pay he’s manage to focus and deliver a program that is on the upswing with no ceiling in sight. Recruiting is better, more organized and more timely. The depth at each position is looking better with each passing season. Most of our recent walk-ons look a lot like the kind of scholarship recruits we used to go after in years gone by.

    One of the big criticisms regarding our Warrior teams past were their poor performance on the road. This needs to change for our Warrior program to pick up an audience. Warriors need to win 4 or more games on the road each season.

  114. A-House August 17, 2011 11:58 am


    I’m in no way suggesting that UH be part of the Big 12 – absolutely NO!!! My first preference is the PAC 12.

    It makes me wonder how they determine how many houses have a TV set – how do they count high rise apartments or condos? 1 per unit or just 1 for the entire bldg? how often are the “numbers” revised?

    We have 3 TVs – if all are on the “game” does this count for 3 or 1?

  115. Garret August 17, 2011 11:59 am


    I would add green tech (solar, wind, wave power, etc.) to the list and I know that there is great interest in supporting that industry in Hawaii. Unfortunately, California is dominating the tech area for green tech and Arizona State already signed the collaboration deal with Japan to for the programs (hundreds of million of dollars already allocated) to develop green tech.

  116. Garret August 17, 2011 12:00 pm


    My entire discussion was about the Big 12 and SDSU/UNLV, which is why I thought you were talking about the Big 12 when you were responding to my post.

    The number of TV *viewers* is all that counts for a market, not how many TV sets. They only count 1 TV at a time for a TV viewer.

  117. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 12:00 pm


    I think they are counting the number of households in Hawaii…


  118. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 12:05 pm

    Too bad they don’t count the number of Hotel rooms, too!

  119. Garret August 17, 2011 12:11 pm

    According to Thompson, BCS AQ status is a top priority for the MWC. Does UH add or subtract from their goal to reach that?

    UH does *nothing* to change the MWC’s status for AQ status. With or without UH they will be in the top 6 in 2 categories and #7 in the 3rd category. Either way the MWC will need an appeal. UH is the 10th team, which means that the MWC will get a 12.5% bonus instead of a 25% bonus to their points…so, the MWC could actually get *less* points when you count UH.

    UH’s Sagarin ratings for this AQ evaluation period (it won’t count in the initial calculation, but probably will be part of the appeals process):

    2008: 79

    2009: 87

    2010: 53 (strength of schedule really killed UH’s BCS points!)

    2011: ?

    Add H’s 2008-2010 Sagarin rating to the MWC and the MWC’s average goes *down*. Take away 12.5% of the bonus points they get and their AQ appeal significantly decreases in value.

    The good news is that the human voters count for 2/3 of the total when you look at top 25 BCS rankings, so UH does count for 2010 in that category. But UH wouldn’t count for 2008 or 2009 in that category. So, UH overall doesn’t help them in the category for top 25 teams in their appeals process.

    The 3rd AQ category is highest ranked team. UH doesn’t contribute to that at all for 2008-2010 and UH reduces the bonus points from 25% to 12.5%. So, if they factor UH into the appeals process then UH hurt them in that category.

    SO, UH’s top 25 ranking 1 year is canceled out by the MWC losing 12.5% of their bonus points for all 4 years. UH actually is below the MWC’s average for average computer ranking. UH costs the MWC a 12.5% for their highest ranked team category.

    Arguing that UH’s significantly helps the MWC’s AQ chances is very hard to do. It is easy to argue that if they counted UH in the appeal then the MWC’s AQ chances would be HURT.

    We can be sure that the MWC ran the numbers when they issued invitations. And the argument that UH helps their AQ chances so they shouldn’t pay travel subsidies is not a strong one.

  120. Garret August 17, 2011 12:12 pm

    Too bad they don’t count the number of Hotel rooms, too!


    Wouldn’t San Diego and Las Vegas come out even further ahead if they did so? It isn’t like there are a limited number of hotels in either city…

  121. Garret August 17, 2011 12:15 pm

    Rutgers is cutting back on Academics while their women’s basketball team lost $2.2 mil last year…this is causing quite a controversy within their administration and government.

    Bloomberg did a tremendous job taking an in-depth look at Rutgers University, and what it found was – surprise! – alarming. The University is cutting back dramatically in the classroom because of a bloated athletic department.

    the history department took away professors’ desk phones to save money and shrank its doctoral program by 25 percent. After funding cuts by the deficit-strapped Legislature, New Jersey’s state university froze professors’ salaries, cut the use of photocopies for exams and jacked up student tuition, housing and other fees.

    Even though it won two-thirds of its games over that period, the team had an operating loss of $2.2 million in fiscal 2010, according to Rutgers records. Rutgers women’s basketball attracted an average of 4,008 fans to road games and 3,039 at home.

  122. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 12:19 pm

    I doubt that San Diego has more hotel rooms than Hawaii.. maybe Las Vegas, though. And if we go by percentage of occupancy? But it’s all moot anyway.

  123. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 17, 2011 12:24 pm


    From what I read San Diego has 54,000 rooms while the State of Hawaii has around 47,000.

  124. RedZone August 17, 2011 12:25 pm

    With all this money flying around I would send the IRS after them.

  125. warriorsun August 17, 2011 12:27 pm

    #106 mzulu,

    thanx 4 sharing.

    CU DC is so full of it no wonder is surname is the same color of his eyes.

    Brown said, “It’s hard to practice against hawaii because nobody runs that style of offense….”



    the buffs spent their entire tenure in the same conference as texas tech, oklahoma and oklahoma state. the three most prolific passing teams in the nation. all three use the spread and pass a yard at a time. in fact–the whole damn conference passes. the pac12 will be no different–ever hear of standford and california? the four spread pass is universal.

    look, jon embree is no genuis. we all know that. coaches that design passing games are called einsteins, smoke pipes and don felt fedoras. embree is a vince lombardi type, chews on tobacco and wears a faded bears baseball cap mike ditka gave him….embree, a former hog, played too many times with his helmet-off and his mouth open.

    the only game that embree knows is brute force and execution. he’d rather run the same play 10X in practice rather than run 10-different plays. that’s lombardi. over and over and over again, like ground hog day. we will run, run, run, until we run it right.

    the math is simple. so are the blocking assisgnments–knock them on their asses.

    it doesnt take a dick tracy to figure out the new colorado head coach, but it will take a heart of a real warrior to stop his team on september 3rd. embree wont be making excuses like his ragamuffin defensive coordinator, except to say, “we’re coming right at you, stop us if you can”.

  126. Bowwar August 17, 2011 12:38 pm

    Let ‘um run on us…Bring it on!

    I hope our Boys are ready for some Bison jerky, as our “poin pounder” defense will rise to the occasion!

    Imua Warriors!

  127. A-House August 17, 2011 12:39 pm

    Garret #120:

    What confuses me is that the “strength of schedule” does NOT hurt BSU or Reno or Fresno, only Hawaii, yet in the WAC we play the same in-conference teams.

    I know that Fresno does play a tough out of conference schedule. Cannot say the same for Reno. BSU, until the past 2 seasons, schedule did not seem tougher – they played Washingston and Washington who are still stuck in the bottom of the PAC 12. Except for a few seasons, Oregon ST was not that highly ranked.

    IIRC, Jim D has made a significant improvement in out-of-conference games for UH in the near future – out to 2015.

    UH will have to go 3 & 0 to start 2011 and make people notice. Beating USC and BYU on consecutive weekends in 2012 will really make people stand up. What a dream, yet dreams do come true!!!

    I wish Jim D will schedule the “lower” or bottom schools from the BIG 12 or SEC or BIG 10 – that wuld be a good start to building a higher strength of schedule rating at the start or end of season games as most, if not all, will not be involved in conference championship games.

  128. Bowwar August 17, 2011 12:40 pm

    Poi not Poin…Excuse typo…Getting too excited.

  129. Couch potato August 17, 2011 12:47 pm

    A-House, there’s probably not more than 450,000 households in Hawaii. so yeah, 400,000 is a good approximation.

  130. Wes'side Warrior August 17, 2011 1:15 pm

    The BCS uses Sagarin’s ELO_Chess numbers, which rank teams with #1 being the top. UH’s rank of 53 out of 245 rated teams for this past season isn’t THAT bad. It’s better than the previous 2 years. When considering how many schools are in the Big Money Conferences, UH is also better than:

    5/12 ACC teams

    3/8 Big East teams

    4/11 Big Ten teams

    6/12 Big 12 teams

    10/12 C-USA teams

    2/10 PAC 10 teams

    5/12 SEC teams.

    BSU had an ELO_Chess (BCS) rank of #8, while Reno was ranked #12.

    Our rank of #87 for 2009 = 6-7 for the season, while 2008’s 7-7 record resulted in a rank of #79.

    After removing the departing MWC teams, and adding joining WAC teams, Hawaii is in the upper half of the conference (by last year’s ELO_Chess ranking:

    Boise St.


    San Diego St.

    Air Force


    Fresno St.


    Colorado St.


    New Mexico

  131. Wes'side Warrior August 17, 2011 1:17 pm


    Good stuff on catching Brown’s propaganda machine!

    But, we can stop the run… just ask Navy!

  132. Wes'side Warrior August 17, 2011 1:19 pm

    We just didn’t put Colorado away in the first half like we should have, with those failed trips inside the red zone. And we were gassed in the second half chasing after them.

  133. Kevin August 17, 2011 1:25 pm

    Mack has snuffed out running option teams (ask Kaepernick and Navy) better than straight up run down your throat teams of course when we play those run down your throat running teams they tend to feature the BIG 10 player of the year (i.e. Wisconsin), and so forth.

    Hawaii football ALWAYS had the stigma about not being able to stop the run… ALWAYS.

    Our talent pool has gotten good though. I like our front four, but cautious about our LB depth.

    Aranda’s got his schemes as many pointed out.

    We get chance for sure on Sept 3rd.

  134. Garret August 17, 2011 1:29 pm

    What confuses me is that the “strength of schedule” does NOT hurt BSU or Reno or Fresno, only Hawaii, yet in the WAC we play the same in-conference teams.


    BSU, Reno, and Fresno *were* hurt in the strength of schedule area by playing in the WAC. BSU was ranked well ahead of the top MWC school after nonconference play was over in several years and ended up being passed by a MWC school due to SOS in conference play.

    One year the poor WAC SOS cost BSU a BCS bowl spot–undefeated and no BCS bowl (instead of getting $4.5 mil, they went to a $750k bowl). One year that made them the lower ranked non-AQ school to make a BCS bowl (instead of getting $4.5 mil, they got $3 mil). Not only did it cost BSU money, it cost *UH* money since UH would have had over $300k more if BSU had been the top non-AQ school in both seasons.

    Everything isn’t a conspiracy theory that only hurts UH. Those other schools you mentioned were hurt just like UH. In fact, BSU was hurt the worse in SOS because everybody else got a SOS boost by playing them. UH lost a few spots in the computer rankings…BSU lost a BCS bowl spot when they went undefeated!

  135. Ralph August 17, 2011 1:29 pm

    I received my wvb season tickets in the mail today, gearing up for another exciting season!

  136. (Jesse) James August 17, 2011 1:30 pm

    Jojo…Buffalo meat also available at Umeke Market….but like Hawaiianbod said, kinda pricey….but tastes good and is leaner than beef…

  137. Garret August 17, 2011 1:31 pm

    Mack has snuffed out running option teams (ask Kaepernick and Navy) better than straight up run down your throat teams of course when we play those run down your throat running teams they tend to feature the BIG 10 player of the year (i.e. Wisconsin), and so forth.

    Mack’s philosophy of emphasizing speed over size comes with the natural limitation against power rushing offenses (remember La Tech in 2008?). However, Aranda/Mack seems to have made the adjustment by going to the 3 DT look–having Masch at DE would make UH stronger against a power attack.

  138. Garret August 17, 2011 1:33 pm

    Wes’side Warrior,

    Good job running the numbers, but the situation looks worse for 2008 and 2009 which will be part of the appeals process for AQ status. The other thing is that having a 10th team will cost the MWC a 12.5% bonus that will drop them in 2 categories.

  139. Garret August 17, 2011 1:35 pm

    The interesting thing to me is that the AD who was in charge at Miami when that blatant rule breaking was going on for years is now the Chairman of the NCAA compliance committee. I know I’ve seen several articles that found it interesting that Miami’s former AD was the one in charge of the NCAA coming down so hard on USC…Miami’s compliance situation is much worse than USC had, so the punishment should be much worse.

    Kind of funny that the guy in charge of punishing USC was in charge of Miami’s Athletics when the rule breaking was going on there.

  140. Garret August 17, 2011 1:39 pm


    I agree with you that JD has upgraded UH’s schedule. I *love* the nonconference schedule for 2013. Having those types of schedules gives UH a chance to earn respect on the field and nobody will doubt UH if/when they win those types of games.

    It should be noted that the 2013 season has 15 weeks so the Hawaii Exception means 100x more to schools than the normal 14-week season. A team trying to use the Hawaii Exception in a 14-week season has to play 13 games in 13 weeks if they have a conference title game…except for years like 2013 where they can play 13 games in 14 weeks so they still have a bye week.

  141. Garret August 17, 2011 1:42 pm


    It is hard to put down Nevada’s schedule this season. This is how they start the season:

    at Oregon

    at SJSU

    at Texas Tech

    at BSU

    Four road games to start the season, with 3 of those teams probably better than Colorado/Washington. Before we put down the SJSU game, UH always plays a home game against a D-IAA school…a road game against SJSU is much harder than that.

  142. Kevin August 17, 2011 1:45 pm


    Gearing up my eyes for AN EXCITING NEW SCOREBOARD!!!!!!!!

  143. Kevin August 17, 2011 1:47 pm

    Alexis Forsythe would have been a senior thus having her image on the schedule cards.

    I know there’s gonna be some complaining about it, but um… SCHEDULE CARDS ARE PRINTED IN ADVANCE AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO RE-PRINT A FEW HUNDRED NEW ONES.

  144. warriorsun August 17, 2011 1:47 pm

    time for mac to lay net. it’s warrior hukilau time.

    with a ground swell of ncaa infractions by major football programs swelling like a tsunami from coast to coast, it might be a good time for hawaii’s head head coach to take advantage and open his doors to a mass exodus of player refugees escaping banishment or punishment.

    what started in los angeles at USC has rippled through other prominent addresses nationwide: columbus, eugene, auburn, baton rouge, knoxville, atlanta, chapel hill … now the brewing cataclysm in coral gables. and that may not be all. A well-connected college official last week predicted “a busy fall” for alleged rules violations.

    the miami story if true and successfully linked to miami coaches could result in what many predict, as the smu death penalty for the hurricane football program.

    scavenging is not my favorite pastime, but as one wise observer once said, “what is one man’s bane is another man’s boon”. so, if the tsunami is bringing fish our way, this may be of interest to our warrior staff to take advantage.

    eh, mac, time to stich all the pukas in the warrior net. there is a school of fresh ones on a wave and heading our way….the timing is perfect for one monsta warrior hukilau!

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  146. Kevin August 17, 2011 1:51 pm



    Per H-Mail that I JUST got now:

    Rainbow Wahine Volleyball season ticket holders should be receiving their tickets in the mail TODAY and Warrior Football season tickets will be mailed out this weekend.

    I guess Ralph just verified that.

  147. Kevin August 17, 2011 1:52 pm

    Not gonna lie. Seeing the death penalty unfold before my eyes will be history in the making for me.

    Not exactly looking forward to it, but NOT exactly hoping not to see it happen to the U at the same time.

  148. NYUH August 17, 2011 1:53 pm

    When the WAC’s top tier teams joined the Mountain Waste, I don’t think we had much of a choice. But it is too bad WAC leadership couldn’t have held on to FS and Nevada. Just looking at it from the East Coast, the WAC had more brand value than the MWC whose TV deals don’t really penetrate the Right Coast.

  149. warriorsun August 17, 2011 1:53 pm

    #132 ww,

    navy didnt have 6-7 300 lb linemen. btw, where you in hybernation ilast year? the buffs ran over us after intermission. bravado is good and works in cyber space but it doest win games, especially when our DL still have buff-hoof marks tat’d on their chests.

  150. HawaiiMongoose August 17, 2011 1:58 pm

    Garret, my understanding is that the BCS rankings are based on results prior to the bowl games. Therefore in looking at Sagarin’s 2010 ratings, shouldn’t we be referencing Hawaii’s ELO-CHESS number from prior to the Tulsa loss? If so, UH would rate higher than 53rd.

  151. Kevin August 17, 2011 1:58 pm

    Can you hear it???

    UH Manoa lower campus hustling and bustling with the sound of student-athletes getting ready for 2011-2012…

    Tis a beautiful sound.

  152. NYUH August 17, 2011 2:04 pm

    #122 Garret: Interesting article. I’m sure the History profs were happy to get rid of their desk phones though.

    Coaches make too much money in college. One of our own is the highest paid government employee, making more, much more than the President.

  153. Mario August 17, 2011 2:05 pm

    Coach Mack and his staff is doing a great job and it will be a good lesson to learn. I love it that they basically group everyone that is good enough to play, play. Yes they may not play every snap, but they get some reps in during games. This will help our depth chart for years to come. The players that are good enough to play are not hampered and warming the bench for a whole year or waiting for a blowout to play. If they keep recruiting and we keep getting solid walk-ons year in and year out, we should have a solid team every year. I love the Warriors chances this year and happy that we have a solid group of coaches with Mack at the helm. Give him an extention already so we can keep getting recruits.

  154. NYUH August 17, 2011 2:15 pm

    WS: Agree. Buffs will be tough. We have trouble against athletes with time to prepare. But it should be a good game.

    Emblematic of that game was Pilares running out gas on his big gain. That shouldn’t be a problem at home. We are not coming off the longest travel run in our program’s history and stopping high in the mountains.

  155. warriorsun August 17, 2011 2:17 pm

    the colorado game as it turns out will feature the buffs strength–a huge offensive line; against hawaii’s strength (surprise!)–its D. our warrior power in the trench and middle at DT is un-matched in recent memory for talent, experience and depth. 5 deep! all with game experience and attitude. ditto with our DEs–5-deep.

    our linebacking unit is making aranda droll and creatively fantasize about special treats–12 deep! for the first time, we have sufficient talent on our backside to make a statement and our corners, if we stay healthy, allow us to attack from the far flank and are safeties are athletic enuff to attack on the line.

    whatever MO & co delivers, it will be frosting.

    whatever tomey does on special teams, it is certain to surprise (the buffs).

    to win, our D must own the line of scrimmage. period.

    three-n-out, DE-FENSE!

  156. Garret August 17, 2011 2:23 pm

    Garret, my understanding is that the BCS rankings are based on results prior to the bowl games. Therefore in looking at Sagarin’s 2010 ratings, shouldn’t we be referencing Hawaii’s ELO-CHESS number from prior to the Tulsa loss? If so, UH would rate higher than 53rd.


    This is a *very* good point that I hadn’t thought of. The final BCS number used would be the number *before* the bowl game…UH’s loss in the Hawaii Bowl would not be counted in that. However, Sagarin doesn’t make those numbers easily accessible–I can get final Sagarin ratings easily but I cannot look up the numbers from before the bowls easily.

    UH’s BCS top 25 ranking was great, but we need to remember that 2/3 of the BCS score was from the human voters. UH’s computer rating was much lower than the voter ranking…but higher than it was after the Tulsa game of course.

    Let me get some numbers together:

    UH’s final BCS rating for 2010 was 0.0778, good for #24.

    For comparison purposes, Nevada was at 0.4336, BSU was at 0.6137 and TCU was at 0.9102, Florida State was #23 at 0.1140

  157. d1shima August 17, 2011 2:26 pm

    What is security like near the grass practice fields after hours? UHAD/Football can scarcely afford to lose any equipment/resources. 👿

  158. d1shima August 17, 2011 2:28 pm

    time for mac to lay net. it’s warrior hukilau time.

    Well, there are the two QB’s that were mentioned a little while back….

  159. d1shima August 17, 2011 2:29 pm

    …here’s the link so you won’t have to Gugu it

  160. Slugger August 17, 2011 2:31 pm

    Gol’ dang it! Bachi on the people who stole that equipment! Grrrrrrrr

  161. Kevin August 17, 2011 2:34 pm

    It was an eventful day. The Warriors learned that a generator, equipment and special tools to fix equipment were stolen from a storage shed next to the grass practice field. The generator was used, for among many things, to power the JUGS machine.

    Emphasis on “many things”.


  162. warriorsun August 17, 2011 2:34 pm

    #155 nyuh,

    i hear u but take exception to one point which has become a bone to pick.

    mac is not brilliant by any stretch and he wasnt hired to be a guru. understand that. but, he should be able to plan his road trips smart. especially when playing above the clouds at one of the highest elevations in college football. imo, he didnt plan well against colorado. he decided instead, to camp out in summerlin, lv, before the buff game. many familiar with boulder felt he should have skipped sin city and headed staright to the rocky mountain highs.

    yeah, we ran out of gas and unless you are deaf and dumb….dahhh.

  163. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 17, 2011 2:35 pm

    I read that Coach Mack was once named one of the Big 12’s TOP recruiters by Rivals.

    I wonder how he has been using his contacts to funnel some of those guys our way.

  164. Kevin August 17, 2011 2:36 pm

    So close to the start of the season and a piece of STOLEN equipment hampers the football team…

  165. warriorsun August 17, 2011 2:39 pm

    #160 ‘shima,

    are they program player refugees from ncaa sanction?

    that is my point.

  166. Kevin August 17, 2011 2:41 pm


    There is NO security down there in the evening hours unless there are softball or baseball games.

    Other than the occasional campus security vehicle driving by… NADA.

  167. warriorsun August 17, 2011 2:43 pm

    c’mon, jd must have insurance for theft….he must have a replacement fund. by the time anyone raises money and funnels it through the bureauracy we have in place–we will have a new batch of receivers… well as bloggers.

  168. Kevin August 17, 2011 2:45 pm

    First the softball batting cage/storage was getting sacked and now they’re moving on to some bigger things.

    ICE is a helluva drug I guess.

  169. J-FORCE August 17, 2011 2:45 pm

    Protect this house! GO WARRIORS!

  170. wafan August 17, 2011 2:54 pm

    Good sentence for the perps . . . live tackling practice dummies.

    Geez. No class.

  171. d1shima August 17, 2011 2:57 pm

    are they program player refugees from ncaa sanction?

    that is my point.

    Me no sabe.

  172. Kevin August 17, 2011 3:01 pm


    Live tackling dummies. Why not have them pull double duty?

    Coolen has those tires attached to poles that he has his players swing at with their bats. Hate to see good tires go to waste…

    You see where I am going with this…

  173. Wes'side Warrior August 17, 2011 3:03 pm

    Warriorsun.. hahaha! No, I wasn’t in hibernation, or cyber nation. If we took care of business during the first half, mentally and emotionally, as well as on the scoreboard, we would’ve been ahead something like 24-zilch. That’s a huge difference, and possibly would’ve forced Colorado’s game plan to a throw-more approach. Being down only 10-0 at the half, they knew we were frustrated and not totally mentally in the game. They took advantage of that, and their elevation, to take us out of the game.

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  175. A-joe August 17, 2011 3:30 pm

    Marketing UH doesn’t require a ton of money. It’s simply tapping into what’s already established.

    Why reinvent the wheel to brand UH athletics. Harness the universal image everyone already has about Hawaii and piggyback UH on it.

    Think universally in reverse- You live in China. You hear a team from Hawaii is coming to play basketball against the local professional team. You think, OK, if you’ve got time, you’ll go take a look. You do and get to the game to find free giveaways of UH branded shirts, hats, mugs, pennants, pens… There’s also Hawaiian entertainment at halftime. After the game, you’re invited to meet and greet the players, the entertainment and reps from Hawaii. There you learn about all the wonderful points of interest in the islands, the unique products made in Hawaii, the many cultural, historical and economic ties between Hawaii and China and the world renown educational programs available at UH.

    A year later you see a game between Hawaii and Pittsburgh on TV. You know Hawaii and cheer for them.

    A year after that you see and ad to fly to Hawaii. You can’t go but you recall the team that came to your hometown two years prior and those wonderful Macadamia nuts.

    Your neighbor’s kid wants to study abroad. You recall what the UH rep mentioned about UH’s education programs. You recommend your neighbor look into Hawaii.

    Unbeknownst to you, all this was made possible by a joint effort of the University of Hawaii, The Hawaii Visitors Bureau and the many donations of Hawaii businesses.

    Now, apply this scenario to any destination abroad. The farther away, the more powerful it becomes.

  176. NYUH August 17, 2011 3:37 pm

    warriorsun: 164: All the better than for our upcoming game.

  177. Couch potato August 17, 2011 3:42 pm

    now i wish i had bison broccoli, bison watercress, mongolian bison, black bean bison, bison with chow fun, and rice.

  178. Kevin August 17, 2011 3:48 pm

    Bison filet mignon, wrapped in BACON.

  179. Kevin August 17, 2011 3:53 pm


  180. LizKauai August 17, 2011 3:58 pm

    A-Joe, well said. And so much more to remember about Hawaii.

    So – As for the first game…

    Love and Unity…

    Always a winner.

    The rest is just football.

    Talent alone does not a TEAM make.


  181. LizKauai August 17, 2011 3:59 pm

    Bison is better than beef, imho… very lean so needs LOTS of bacon…

  182. A-joe August 17, 2011 4:00 pm

    I’ve said this before- screw trying to get our home games broadcast primetime across the nation. Especially on the East coast. We can never compete against the ACC and SEC. Let them have it.

    What we do have is an advantage that no other program across the nation (let alone any ACC and SEC team) has: We can play a live game that can be shown 12 midnight (11PM daylight savings) across the entire eastern seaboard! It’ll be 9PM Pacific (8PM daylight savings)

    Think of it- at that hour the only competition we’d have on the tube will be infomercials, reruns of earlier games and a looping sportscenter broadcast.

    We’ll have the entire national sports tube all to ourselves. No other program- not USC, Texas, Notre Dame, Michigan could ever ask for nor pull off such a fricken deal! USC would be nuts trying to start a game at 9PM at night. Lose money for them. But not us.

    Every week we’ll be synonymous to being the last NCAA game to be played across the nation and the lead-in game into the entire NFL football Sunday.

    Can’t ask for better marketing than that.

  183. Stephen Tsai August 17, 2011 4:01 pm

    Don’t know if this is good news, old news or no news, but heard UH offered volleyball scholarship to Maddie Dilfer, Trent Dilfer’s daughter.

  184. Da Punchbowl Kid August 17, 2011 4:01 pm

    Bison beaten, battered, broken, bowed, boarding a Boulder bound plane after being blasted at Aloha Stadium.


  185. A-joe August 17, 2011 4:02 pm

    Big Island and Kauai Beefalo iz da bestest!!

  186. Kevin August 17, 2011 4:03 pm


    August 17th, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    Bison is better than beef, imho… very lean SO needs LOTS of bacon

    So, it’s not better than beef then.

  187. LizKauai August 17, 2011 4:08 pm

    It is. Tastier… healthier… plus you get the satisfaction that only BACON can bring… hahahaha!

  188. Da Punchbowl Kid August 17, 2011 4:08 pm

    Sounds like Ms. Liz just invented the porkchop. 🙂

    Porkchops… …MMMMmmmMMM.

  189. Da Punchbowl Kid August 17, 2011 4:10 pm

    There should be a rule that bacon and satisfaction must always be used together in the same sentence.

  190. bigislandkurt August 17, 2011 4:11 pm

    A-Joe is on point.

    Too bad we live in a “no can” state as opposed to a CAN!

    A-Joe for Governor!


  191. bigislandkurt August 17, 2011 4:12 pm

    Dem Buffs are going to RUN RUN RUN. It’s no secret. One of CU’s greatest running backs EVER is Eric Bienemy. He is now their offensive coordinator. He was Adrian Petersen’s Coach in Minnesota last year. Make no mistake. Them buffs are going to run! WE need to be GAme strong in all areas of defense, especially on the dline and linebacker corps.


  192. Da Punchbowl Kid August 17, 2011 4:13 pm

    The things is, this year we have the Buffaloes in Aloha Stadium, virtually at sea level, where its nice and muggy and prone to being hot.

    Let ’em run.

  193. bigislandkurt August 17, 2011 4:13 pm

    We need to establish our lead early —almost like what we tried to do in Boulder last year. WE need to get up on them early so they are forced to pass. Passing is not their strong point.


  194. Da Punchbowl Kid August 17, 2011 4:15 pm

    A-joe for Governor? I like dat!!!

    Howz tings in God’s country, BIK?

  195. bigislandkurt August 17, 2011 4:15 pm



  196. bigislandkurt August 17, 2011 4:16 pm

    Aloha DPK! Beautiful day/week/month on the moku o keawe. Man, it’s just been gorgeous.


  197. Da Punchbowl Kid August 17, 2011 4:17 pm

    Watching the news, it’s clear that the Warriors are still huhu about last year’s game. They know they should have won. Its time for payback.

  198. LizKauai August 17, 2011 4:19 pm

    Need your prayers please- my son’s house is in the fire’s path… wind needs to change direction away from the homes.

    KOLOA – Weliweli Tract residents have been evacuated due to a brush fire that broke out around 2:00 p.m. this afternoon. Police have closed Kapili and Po’ipū roads. Engines 4 & 5, Truck 5, Rescue 3, Air 1 and police officers are currently on scene. The brush fire reportedly broke out near Ala Kinoiki and spread to the residential area. Fire officials are urging people to stay clear of the area while crews work to extinguish the fire.

  199. wafan August 17, 2011 4:20 pm

    Done, and for his neighbors, too!

  200. wafan August 17, 2011 4:20 pm

    3rd century!


  201. Kevin August 17, 2011 4:22 pm

    Bacon… the ONLY food that comes with audible applause when you start cooking it.

  202. Kevin August 17, 2011 4:23 pm

    Wrap bacon in bacon and you can travel back in time…

    A time when you were eating bacon.

  203. Da Punchbowl Kid August 17, 2011 4:29 pm

    Prayers for them all, Ms. Liz.

  204. Da Punchbowl Kid August 17, 2011 4:33 pm

    There was once such a time, Kevin, but alas and alack, no longer. Gone are the days of bacon, wine and roses. Now its occasional wine, some roses and a lot of whining. About bacon. 🙁

  205. warriorsun August 17, 2011 4:42 pm

    3173 ‘shima,

    the recent rash of ncaa sanctions will cause players to leave the affected programs. eg. miami, etc. so, mac &staff should be making contacts, permissible kind, to get a few of these high caliber players to migrate to our program, hence my use of the word hukilau(throw net for kaukau). hope this makes it easier to understand.

  206. Kevin August 17, 2011 4:45 pm


    Life > Bacon.

    Although I know people that would have me killed for saying that.

  207. haka August 17, 2011 4:57 pm

    Go SoccerBows!

    Oceanic Time Warner Cable announced today that its so-called University of Hawaii channel will be known as “OCSports” and will debut on channel 12 Friday.

    UH’s 7 p.m. non-conference soccer match against Washington State will be the first of what Oceanic said will be about 100 events to air in the channel’s 2011-2012 inaugural year. The channel will also include what the company described as other “locally relevant programming including live and repeat telecasts of UH sporting events.”

    The first football game it will carry will be the Sept. 10 meeting at Washington.

    High definition will be carried on channel 1012 while pay-per-view will remain on channel 255 and 1255 in HD.

    Oceanic takes over production from its former partner of the past eight years, KFVE.

    KFVE had done UH sports for 28 years.

    The OCSports channel will be part of Oceanic’s basic package, officials said.

    “Our OCSports services were designed to shine a bright light on University of Hawaii athletics and to help make those athletic programs fantastic local entertainment options in Hawaii,” Oceanic president Bob Barlow said today.

  208. A-joe August 17, 2011 5:00 pm

    BIK- can get Beefalo from South Point?

  209. tommui August 17, 2011 5:01 pm

    DPK #206 – a comic called Pearls before Swine features bad puns.

    Now I know who writes some of them.

  210. tommui August 17, 2011 5:02 pm

    Are any of the women’s volleyball game going to be on TV this year?


  211. d1shima August 17, 2011 5:26 pm

    McMackin spent the 1993 and ‘94 seasons at Miami (Fla.), also coached by Erickson. The team won two Big East Championships and ranked first in the nation in total defense, scoring defense and pass defense.

  212. d1shima August 17, 2011 5:30 pm

    11 Ryan Williams




    Pembroke Pines, Fla.

    High School:


    Last College:


    Height / Weight:

    6-6 / 220



  213. d1shima August 17, 2011 5:31 pm

    Memphis: Enrolled early at Memphis in January of 2010, and worked out with the team during the spring season … Was named the Offensive MVP of the Blue-Gray game after completing 15-of-17 pass attempts for 186 yards and three touchdowns … As a true freshman in 2010, played in all 12 games, starting 10 and completed 165-of-290 passes for 2,075 yards and 13 touchdowns … Earned the starting job over former Hurricane Cannon Smith after only the second game of his collegiate career, and went on to start the remaining 10 contests.

  214. 99club August 17, 2011 5:35 pm


    A-joe, absolutely right on. Hawaii owns that time slot and we should aggressively promote it. Call it late night football or whatever but it’s the only game available at that time at least six nights a year.

  215. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 5:42 pm


    Latest studies indicate that unless you have two weeks or more to acclimate to high altitudes, it does you little good. In fact, one week or less can work against you as higher altitudes tend to kill appetites.

    The length of full hematological adaptation can be approximated by multiplying the altitude in kilometers by 11.4 days. For example, to adapt to 1,633metres (13,000 ft) of altitude would require around 18.6 days.

  216. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 5:42 pm

    Whooops… 1,633 meters = 5360 feet = Folsom Stadium.

  217. wafan August 17, 2011 5:43 pm

    See to be too many kingdoms in Hawai’i for A-Joe’s common sense ideas to work.

    Still, someone has to be brave enough to take the first step.

    One day.

    One day . . .

  218. papajoe2 August 17, 2011 5:43 pm

    I’ve been to New York. At midnight, Manhattan is still crowded. I went into a sports bar late at night and saw there was football on about 20 TVs there. The city that never sleeps. Yes we could “own” that time slot. Only thing is when the game is over, It would be way past the deadline for the press, therefore no newspaper coverage. But, nowadays, news travels faster by internet, ESPN or other sports channels.

  219. d1shima August 17, 2011 5:45 pm

    …it would be reported on Sunday.

    Amongst (or under) all the NFL games.

  220. Laura August 17, 2011 5:49 pm

    Tommui, #212, Oceanic will be televising all the Wahine Volleyball home games, it also seems, they will even televise all the tournament games that the Wahine are not playing in to.

  221. d1shima August 17, 2011 5:50 pm

    92 Jalen Grimble




    Las Vegas, Nev.

    High School:

    Bishop Gorman

    Height / Weight:

    6-2 / 280


    Defensive Line

  222. d1shima August 17, 2011 5:51 pm

    High School: Five-star prospect according to … Four-star prospect according to and ESPNU … Ranked 20th at his position and first in his home state of Nevada by … Big and quick strong side defensive end that originally committed to USC … Had 71 tackles and 7 sacks his senior year as team captain … Amassed 62 tackles and five sacks his junior year ..

  223. Garret August 17, 2011 5:54 pm

    ESPN owns the rights to broadcast UH home games. ESPN can show any UH home game they want, and if the game is played on Saturday then they don’t even have to pay any extra money…they only pay extra for non-Saturday games.

    So, ESPN can show UH games in that late-night Saturday time slot for *free* and they choose not to right now…because reruns of other games actually make them more money. How many live games are being shown on ESPN, ESPN2, and ESPNU when UH is playing a Saturday night home game? 0. If ESPN wanted to show UH on one of those channels they could.

    ESPN can show UH games in the late night time slot without having to pay the WAC any extra money. They choose not to. UH does *not* have the right to market those games to anyone. ESPN owns the rights.

    ESPN did show a ton of UH games in 2006 and 2007 and when Tim Chang was about to break the yardage record they made sure to show those games also. UH no longer has the appeal to ESPN that they had back then, but UH does *not* have the right to have its games broadcast anywhere else.

    UH will *not* own the right to sell its games in a late-night time slot when it joins the MWC. CBS Sports will own that right, with some games sold to VS and some games shown on the mtn channel. UH does *not* get to go on its own to sell the late-night time slot, the conference owns the TV rights. Only teams that are independent get to sell their home game TV rights.

    I love A-Joe’s idea. But the facts are that you cannot sell something when somebody else owns it. If they choose not to show a game even though they can show it for free, there is nothing that UH can do about it.

  224. Hawaiianbod August 17, 2011 5:54 pm

    LizK – prayers sent.

    A-Joe- brilliant ideas! U Go Hawaiian!!!

    DPK – i recently began buying Hormel Natural Bacon from Foodland. It has NO nitrates! Only drawback=$$$$$

  225. d1shima August 17, 2011 5:55 pm

    13 Dalton Botts


    RS Sophomore


    Taft, Calif.

    Last College:

    Moorpark CC

    Height / Weight:

    6-3 / 198



  226. Garret August 17, 2011 5:56 pm

    The *only* way that UH can market that late-night time slot is to be independent. UH chose to be in a conference so UH does *not* own its TV rights.

  227. d1shima August 17, 2011 5:56 pm

    Moorpark Community College: Transferred from Bakersfield college as a sophomore averaging 37.5 per punt with a long of 59 yards … Coached by Jim L. Bitter at Moorpark … Logged best hang time and longest punt at Top 12 Elite Camp in Sherman Oaks, Calif.

    Bakersfield College: Went to Bakersfield as a quarterback and punter …Averaged 34 yards per kick.

    High School: Three-star prospect according to Kohl’s Kicking … Went to Bakersfield (CA) Taft Union High School … Played quarterback as a senior passing 59-of-137 for 986 yards, 12 touchdowns and five interceptions … Rushed for 805 yards and nine touchdowns in 109 carries as a quarterback … All-State punter averaging 39.7 yards per punt with 26 attempts inside the 20 … Originally committed to LSU.

  228. Garret August 17, 2011 5:58 pm

    Mack does know some people back in Miami so maybe he can make some calls if the players are cut loose like USC’s players. However, players are far more likely to go to a school nearby when transferring. Plus, we know how UH admissions treats transfer students and their credits…

  229. d1shima August 17, 2011 6:00 pm

    Two of these players come from the West; one played at Memphis in 2010.

  230. warriorsun August 17, 2011 6:16 pm



    the buffs plan their altitude strategies for teams that visit from sea level venues. say what u want. listen to who u want. quote who u like. i have been there, spoke with their trainers and seen with my own eyes many times and i know what i was watching last year. u just need to trust your eyes–the rest is jibberwash. mac will get a chance this year when he takes a trip to reno at 4800-feet above sea level.

  231. tommui August 17, 2011 6:36 pm

    LIZKAUAI #200 – hope your son’s house wasn’t one of the three that got scorched. Glad to hear over the news that the fire is more or less contained.

  232. tommui August 17, 2011 6:43 pm

    D1Shima re:#214, #215 etc.

    Did I miss something – who are these players and are the Hawaii bound?

  233. d1shima August 17, 2011 6:46 pm


    Window shoppin’ 😉

  234. Koa-mahu August 17, 2011 7:17 pm

    d1 – i ‘window shop’, too! every time i watch practice i tell myself “i want him, and him, and him, ooh and especially him.” 😯

  235. A-joe August 17, 2011 7:20 pm

    Garrett, you’re right. You can’t sell something that you don’t own. That is, if you’re looking to making money for yourself.


    there’s nothing stopping Hawaii in showing how everyone can make more money by televising their games in this open time slot.

    If Hawaii can demonstrate how CBS and MWC can make more money, they’d be foolish not to listen.

    Who else in the MWC has that capability of pulling off such a feat?


    The thing is, Hawaii uses this deal to develop brand awareness for itself. Establish their foothold on this timeslot Do this for several years. Now, if at anytime teams defect from the MWC or the conference gets weak or unfavorable, first chance that arises Hawaii takes this concept with them to another conference. Or simply go independent.

    I can handle skeptics. I don’t have time for cynics.

  236. al August 17, 2011 7:20 pm

    taft, calif…i visited there decades ago. drove from the bay area in hopes of watching oj simpson tote the rock for usc. no one told us it was sold out.

    the desert is hot and boring.

  237. Laura August 17, 2011 7:23 pm

    Dick Tomey will be on Leahey and Leahey, Channel 10, @ 7:30 pm.

  238. al August 17, 2011 7:25 pm

    lizk…i hope everything is okay out in koloa. my prayers for all those in harm’s way.

  239. al August 17, 2011 7:34 pm

    dick tomey…now that’s one coach i never get tired of listening to.

  240. Koa-mahu August 17, 2011 7:48 pm


  241. A-joe August 17, 2011 7:52 pm

    Coach Tomey still has that presence to command a room.

    Makes me wanna grab a helmet, strap it up and go to battle for him!

    Owee! Owee!



  242. al August 17, 2011 8:09 pm

    broke knee!

  243. Old Diver August 17, 2011 8:09 pm


    Gonna have to differ with you on this one Garret. The classes that UH generally doesn’t accept for transfer are the one’s developed especially for athletes to boost their GPA’s. i.e. Daily Planning on your laptop 101.

  244. al August 17, 2011 8:10 pm

    koamahu…would utter…broke back!

  245. al August 17, 2011 8:11 pm

    seems to me that there’s more than one koamahu, Koa-Mahu, and yet another koa mahu. i guess there is more than one schizophrenic in our midst.

  246. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 17, 2011 8:14 pm


    I’m making a generalized statement here but I too can attest to the fact that in NYC “12AM” on a Saturday or Friday night is EARLY EARLY EARLY…The 20, 30, and 40 somethings up there are getting their night started around 11pm.

    How does one market such an idea? MNF can also be Midnight Football…too bad its already Monday Night Football.

    I have absolutely NO interest in the Big East schools but when they are the only game playing on a Thursday night I am watching UConn vs. Rutgers.

  247. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 17, 2011 8:23 pm


    I gotta agree with you there. Having worked for A&S so I can only speak for them…but if you are taking “normal” classes like math, science, english, etc those credits can transfer pretty easily.

    It’s the very unique classes that even UH has that are the problem. How do they fit the requirements or what do they take the place of when it comes to core, degree, major, or depth, breadth, performance track and how does it affect your major declaration etc.

    In the end it just depends on the student.

  248. A-House August 17, 2011 8:27 pm


    will presume your “window shopping” means they are currently unattached.

    perhaps, you are giving us advance notice of things to come – just like Astrodomus – god, i like phonetics!!! maybe i learned something in speech class.

  249. A-House August 17, 2011 8:32 pm


    Why does ESPN own the rights to broadcast all UH football games?

    Did UH sell them the rights? or did the 1 ton gorilla put da screws to UH?

  250. warriorsun August 17, 2011 8:32 pm

    coach tomey didnt give anything away to the leaheys’ tonite we didnt already know. he said he would be aggressive when prudent and wouldnt take reckless chances when unwarranted….whatever that means. lol. he did mention that royce pollard was great at returning kicks but because of the receiver injury situation they would use him only in an emergency. he said both allan sampson and mike edwards were in the mix for either ko or punt returns and pointed to former aussie rugby pro, scott harding as a player that can haul in punts with ease.

    he did mention that he hasnt decided on the fg kicker yet and that his evaluation is continuing. typical tomey. he gave the edge to tyler hayden, however, when it came to the stronger leg.

    the only glimpse i gathered of dick tomey’s mission was when he introduced the fact that special teams account for 21% of the total plays in an average college football game. he said this was less than the 1/3 coaches usually claim. BUT, he added with a wily smile, “special teams can account for 50% of a teams motivation, they can change the MO of in a a close contest or bring a team back”.

    that was vintage tomey. and, if one wonders what tomey hopes to create as hawaii’s special teams coach, it lies in that statement. dick tomey wants to make a difference in game outcome and inspire his team.

    overall coach was playing his cards close to his vest. with the enthusiasm we know he has and the chicanery we know he possesses, 2011 could be full of surprise.

    otherwise, coach looked at ease and playfully exchanged banter with pops and kainoa.

    coach said he is enjoying the moment and his task as special teams coach carries a challenge that reinvigorates his zeal to coach. for all the years that has passed between his stints at manoa, coach tomey made it seem as if he never left.

  251. wafan August 17, 2011 8:41 pm

    Hey, Liz!

    Pretty sure I heard your oldest grandson in a TV interview on HNN.

  252. A-House August 17, 2011 8:42 pm


    I definitely like your style!!!!!!!!!

    It may sound like outside the box, but it’s not! There are too many “leaders” who say it can’t be done without even trying. I hated that line when individuals just sit and make that decision based on written words or they heard from so-n-so, etc. Try first and then decide, but make it an honest effort after doing the 5-step evluation process.

    There are many options – how to support each is critical for success – sometimes the worst option is the best one to follow – military, we say the worst plan well executed in better than the best plan never exceuted.

    Perhaps someone can develop 3 or 4 options, have each supporting “staff” give their analysis of how they can/cannot support, select the best, and present it to the “commander”/boss. I liked those staff briefings because we could provide input from an outsider’s view that may have not been considered in the planning process.

    OH, well, those days are history!

  253. al August 17, 2011 8:46 pm

    tomey will;

    play it close to the vest when the score is also close.

    loosen it up when there is a margin of two touchdowns.

    the gate swings both ways whether we are up or down in score.

    however, all bets are off if tomey snuffs out a tendency or flaw in the opponents alignment and assignment.

    returning kicks is basic, you run to the imbalance.

    hence coverage is the converse of the aforementioned.

    going after punts is predicated by the amount of ticks that the punter takes to get it off versus your known time of arrival by your primary blocking scheme. that other parts to this equation is the score of the game and amount of time left in the half or game.

    punt return team should have a base scheme with one or two twists. same as ko return.

    we should always go after p.a.t.’s. most of the time you go after fg’s too. but, again the latter more so dependent on score, time left in the half or game.

    i am looking forward to more excitement on special teams this year. the squads will be so inspired by tomey that there is no other way for this phase of the game other than looking up.

  254. Laura August 17, 2011 8:51 pm

    Dick Tomey looked very relaxed and contented at what he is doing right now, teaching and motivating.

  255. al August 17, 2011 8:52 pm

    …and i am sure that tomey will be looking for the next semeri ulufale.

  256. Slugger August 17, 2011 8:53 pm


    Hope the fire is out & the family is safe. Prayers for everyone’s safety.

  257. SteveM August 17, 2011 9:06 pm

    RE: #154

    Thanks for the perspective, A-Joe!

    All the Tsai-kos in the room knew my motivation when I asked Coach Mack if there were any physical or psychological factors in starting a home game at 1:00 pm versus, 5:00 pm or 7:00pm. 🙄

    The surprise answer was that he’d like all our games to start at midnight–to have the opposing teams as much out of sync as possible.

    Well, in theory anyway. A 9:00 pm start time is stretching the box a bit, but may not be a bad gamble for attendance…certainly going to beat a starting a game at 4:00 in the afternoon in Hawaii summer.

    In 2012 we are paying for the charter flights of the MWC schools, so I hope JD is looking at later game starts to encourage (paid) attendance in the stands–particularly the mauka side. I hope some serious consideration is given to a 7:00, 8:00 or even a 9:00 pm start if UH can draw a TV line in the sand.

  258. iwonderwhytheyhateme August 17, 2011 9:14 pm

    I wouldn’t want a 8:00 or 9:00pm start. 5:00-6:00PM is a perfect time for me personally.

    I don’t think most people would enjoy staying up and driving home at 12 in the morning.

    Tailgaters and clean freaks gotta go home and still clean up, shower etc.

  259. SteveM August 17, 2011 9:28 pm

    Meant A-Joe’s #184 (not 154)

    Come to think of it, east coast midnight is 6:00 pm HST in daylight saving time and 7:00 pm in November. But I’d go for 8:00 pm if it helps the team. 🙂

  260. madeinhawaii August 17, 2011 9:44 pm

    Auwe to the culprits that stole the equipment from the tool shed next to the grass practice field….. obviously not Warrior fans!!!

  261. d1shima August 17, 2011 9:46 pm


    U” would presume incorrectly.

  262. d1shima August 17, 2011 9:56 pm

    Really sad.

    The booster told Yahoo! Sports he had a number of individual payouts for “hit of the game” and “big plays.” He also put bounties on specific players, including Florida Gators quarterback Tim Tebow and a three-year standing bounty on Seminoles quarterback Chris Rix from 2002 to 2004, offering $5,000 to any player who knocked him out of a game.

    “We pounded the [expletive] out of that kid,” Shapiro said of Rix. “Watch the tape of those games. You’ll see so many big hits on him. Guys were all going after that $5,000 in cash. [Jon] Vilma tried to kill him – just crushed him – a couple of times trying to get that $5,000. And he almost got it, too.”

    Vilma didn’t return a call seeking comment.;_ylt=AoJCIAw1aJ85W4jTbjP0BWY5nYcB?slug=cr-renegade_miami_booster_details_illicit_benefits_081611

  263. d1shima August 17, 2011 9:59 pm

    But it doesn’t end there…

    In one instance, Shapiro described taking a player to the Pink Pony strip club and paying for a dancer to engage in sex with the athlete. In the ensuing weeks, Shapiro said the dancer called one of his security providers and informed him that the player had gotten her pregnant during the incident. Shapiro said he gave the dancer $500 to have an abortion performed, without notifying the player of the incident.

    “I was doing him a favor,” the booster said. “That idiot might have wanted to keep [the baby].”>blockquote>;_ylt=AoJCIAw1aJ85W4jTbjP0BWY5nYcB?slug=cr-renegade_miami_booster_details_illicit_benefits_081611

  264. d1shima August 17, 2011 10:05 pm

    If “institutional control” is the final arbiter, stick a fork in ’em and ring ’em with ‘taters…they’re done!

    He had also donated $50,000 to the basketball program in 2008, complete with a photo that Shapiro says summed up the entire problem at the university. In a snapshot from that day, Shapiro is talking into a microphone, with Haith – a coach the booster allegedly helped to buy a recruit – looking on and smiling. In the background, University of Miami president Donna Shalala is grinning at the check Shapiro had just donated, a $50,000 contribution that he now admits was Ponzi money.

    “That’s the whole problem right there,” Shapiro said of the picture. “Let’s not kid ourselves. The whole time I was out there rocking and rolling, they were just waiting for the big check to come. And you know what? If I wasn’t sitting in jail right now, they probably would have gotten it, too.”

  265. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc August 17, 2011 10:25 pm

    From Judy Parker/Men’sVolleyball Booster Club

    Dear Boosters,

    Most of you probably already heard that I am not coming back but I also

    wanted to inform you personally.

    I want to say Thank you for two great years and the unbelievable support

    by the booster club. For me personally the two years at UH were a very

    special time in my life and I will never forgot how unique you are. The booster club is one of the reasons why Hawaii is the best place to play Volleyball in the world. For me personally – being far away from home and my family – the boosters had a very special value just because It felt like I had a Ohana. Thanks you for making this two years a life changing experience for me !!

    All the best.


  266. Slugger August 17, 2011 11:10 pm

    Thank, W-Doc. *tears* tsigh, I’ll miss him.

  267. Bowwar August 17, 2011 11:17 pm

    Good luck and best wishes to Jonas…Afterall, its only a game…Life goes on and he needs to pursue what’s best for him and his family.

  268. Curt August 17, 2011 11:56 pm

    Our very best to Jonas…quite the man. Interesting that Katz and Umlauft were both here for only two years. But, what an impact they both made.

  269. Curt August 17, 2011 11:57 pm

    Okay, we just need another all-world player. Where da guy?

  270. Curt August 18, 2011 12:29 am

    It’s quiet on the Warrior Beat. Just thinking of the following song. Anyone recognize these lyrics? It’s an oldie for sure.

    Well it’s lonesome in this old town.

    Everybody puts me down.

    I’m a face without a name.

    Just walking in the rain.

    Goin’ back to Houston, Houston, Houston.

    Maybe, I’ll switch the lyrics around to:

    Well it’s lonesome being a clown.

    Everybody puts me down.

    I’m a blogger with many a name.

    Just dishing out da truth and da pain.

    Going back to lurking, lurking, lurking…not!

  271. madeinhawaii August 18, 2011 1:22 am

    I’m really looking forward to this season as a defining season. This is the season we measure all future seasons under the current coaching staff. With a Defense with ample returnees and a good number of heralded recruits, will McMackin and company raise the bar on the defensive end of the ball? With only two starters on Offense, have the backups been groomed properly, have the coaches recruited successfully, can they get the players game ready and draw plays that the players can execute successfully to win?

    Should the Warriors start strong and continue to markedly improve as the season progresses dominating at home and winning more often than not on the road, then I’d say we have a program that has turned a huge corner and may be closing the gap on Boise.

  272. CoolEthan August 18, 2011 6:18 am

    East coast vs. West coast fan base

    East loves those late night games. Something about how there brought up.

    West coast is not 100% contrast, but does seem to utulize the daylight hours.

    But, doing a nighttime kickoff would totally blow the visitors time clocks into a tizzy.

    speaking of tizzy, where’s Izzy ?

  273. losthawaiian August 18, 2011 6:20 am

    Jerome Williams was just called up to the big league with the LA Angels.,0,5431252.story

  274. d1shima August 18, 2011 6:25 am

    Great Morning All!

    Where is the team staying in Vegas?

  275. WarriorNY August 18, 2011 6:31 am

    Preseason All WAC team

  276. koakane August 18, 2011 6:40 am


    free today so who’s making da scrimmage

  277. Stephen Tsai August 18, 2011 6:46 am

    Team at Suncoast in Vegas.

    Might not make practice. Wedding preparation. I’m on vacation until Tuesday.

  278. 702WarriorFan August 18, 2011 6:49 am


    Where is the team staying in San Jose?

  279. myki August 18, 2011 7:11 am

    ‘morning to all,

    Hope to see some of you at practice this morning.

    Many thanks to Jonas for two great seasons with the MVB team. We will definitely miss your booming kills and great court sense. Best of luck in your future endeavors.

  280. Stretch August 18, 2011 7:26 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!

    Looks like UH wasn’t the only basketball team in China that had a little excitement. Glad Gib and crew was able to stop before it escalated to this level

  281. NYUH August 18, 2011 7:39 am


    Hawaii quarterback Bryant Moniz shook his head.

    “If Colorado is the worst team in the Pac-12 South, I’d hate to play in the Pac-12 South,” said the touted Warriors QB after the Buffaloes sacked him five times and intercepted him twice in a 42-20 victory that ended a 17-game road losing streak.

  282. madeinhawaii August 18, 2011 8:58 am

    I hope our Offense is preparing for the blitz. The first half of the season, every team will try to test our Oline. They know we have no returners there. They will look for players with a tendency to catch with their body or run with the ball unsecured to force turnovers. They have seen the many interceptions over the middle and will be prepared to repeat that. The Colorado game will be the first to test our Red Zone competence. We need to win that battle this time around.

  283. Rob25 August 18, 2011 10:11 am

    I haven’t been on the blog lately, but wanted to know if the team is done practicing or will there be a practice tomorrow.

    It would be nice to catch one if there is one.


  284. warriorsun August 18, 2011 10:33 am

    summerlin has become a jinx under mac. we have stayed their twice on the road–and lost both times. personally, i like the suncoast casino, there’s a roy’s nearby, it’s off the beaten path and not on the tracks (lol), plenty parking with easy access to the freeway, but whodoo is vodoo.

  285. warriorsun August 18, 2011 10:43 am

    #285 fantasy blogger from ny,

    if our D gives up 42 against the buffs, something smells bad in china town. and, it wont be the harm ha stir-fry flavor added to the sliced pork and ong choi.