Change of seasons





The Rainbow Wahine’s gritty effort in a Regional semifinal loss marks the end of  UH’s fall-sports season. For football fans, the Wahine served as a diversion for the type of football season that ends with a head coach’s departure.

If the Warriors had beaten BYU a week ago, they would have been practicing today in preparation for the Hawaii Bowl. Instead, the coming week will focus on final examinations and, perhaps, the hiring of a new head coach.

UH is officially moving to the next stage of its sports schedule.


  1. d1shima December 10, 2011 9:00 am


  2. d1shima December 10, 2011 9:00 am


    re: your last comment

    Rajah dat!

  3. d1shima December 10, 2011 9:01 am


  4. Pomai December 10, 2011 9:01 am

    Ai’yah me thinks Kekoa just wen shoot one across SailorBlues bow!!!!

  5. gmahoney December 10, 2011 9:02 am

    No FB, no VB, what to do, what to do?

  6. Ipu Man December 10, 2011 9:05 am

    Wish I could visit Murphy’s tonight and give him a lei.

    24/7 care for a sick friend…

  7. papajoe2 December 10, 2011 9:06 am

    Shucks, I got cut off. nah, nah, joking.

  8. Derek December 10, 2011 9:10 am

    Heartbreak hotel, but the Wahine is right there and they have much to be proud of and the State too. This year was so much better than last year when we got blown out in the WAC final and NCAA tournament. Good things for the future and Shoji will reload again. Croson, Hartong, Hewitt, Uiato, Adolpho, Maeda, Blake, Goodman, Stauber is a good start and they have more like Vorster redshirting, etc.

  9. Stephen Tsai December 10, 2011 9:14 am

    After hearing Jesse Sapolu speak at last week’s banquet, I’m not so sure he shouldn’t be a candidate. He was really good.

  10. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 9:15 am


    Jim Mora has no connections with UCLA, this is his first College level coaching stint. He played for U of Washington while in college.

    Mora, 50, has spent the last two years as an analyst at the NFL Network and has spent the bulk of his coaching career in the NFL, including working as the head coach for the Seattle Seahawks and the Atlanta Falcons.

    The Los Angeles Times notes he hasn’t worked at the collegiate level since 1984, when he was a graduate assistant at the University of Washington after playing for the Huskies.

  11. Stephen Tsai December 10, 2011 9:16 am

    So, for today’s big game, who do you like: City College of San Francisco or Mount San Antonio College?

  12. papajoe2 December 10, 2011 9:19 am

    mih, I think his father had something to do with UCLA, like coaching there or graduating from there, but that is very distant. Mora jr. doesn’t have any connection except for his father a long time ago. Maybe a whole new ball game for UCLA. I just hope they don’t raid us here.

  13. d1shima December 10, 2011 9:20 am

    FCS, DII and DIII playoffs continue today, too.

  14. papajoe2 December 10, 2011 9:22 am

    Isn’t CCSF’s coach is like 65 years old? If hired, he would be a 1st time head coach for a D1 program. Will cheer for them though.

  15. al December 10, 2011 9:22 am

    those are two schools that rolo recruits from.

    toss up.

  16. al December 10, 2011 9:23 am


  17. tommui December 10, 2011 9:29 am

    #11 ST:

    Go Mounties!

    Go Rams!

    (Unless it is the Warriors/Rainbows, I don’t play favorites!)

    Notice exclamation points!

  18. Stephen Tsai December 10, 2011 9:35 am

    Rush is 64.

    And I had a hard time trying not to type in Bush.

  19. Stephen Tsai December 10, 2011 9:36 am

    Word on the boulevard is Banker and Rush were both invited to apply.

  20. PolyMom December 10, 2011 9:36 am

    @Stephen Tsai I agree about Jesse. One heart beat. For today’s game I will take MT. Sac please. Heck when I had a kid at Pasadena City College with Nate Montana as the QB we beat um. Lots of Poly Boys on MT. SAC team.

  21. Ipu Man December 10, 2011 9:38 am

    Army has the best rushing team in the country the tv announcer said.

    Reminds me of Wisconsin’s attack.

    Good coaching…

  22. Wes'side Warrior December 10, 2011 9:41 am

    Howzit, everyone!

    Snuck in from yard work. Da kids can handle.

    Wahine were so close to pulling it out last night/this morning. That game was intense. Proud of da girls. So tired today.

    Anyways, Go, Army! Beat Navy!!! Hahaha!

    Laterz! Better get back outside.

  23. ai-eee-soos December 10, 2011 9:42 am

    mornin: moving forward.

    UH is officially moving to the next stage of its sports schedule.

  24. Stephen Tsai December 10, 2011 9:44 am

    Is it the cooler mornings? Because I have a hard time waking up early these days.

  25. RedZone December 10, 2011 9:55 am


  26. bigislandkurt December 10, 2011 9:59 am

    Rockne Freitas — STRONG present-day Oregon State ties. Banker’s candidacy is no surprise.


  27. Stephen Tsai December 10, 2011 9:59 am

    If anything, the Hawaii Gridiron League has a very cool logo.

  28. bigislandkurt December 10, 2011 10:00 am

    ….meant to say “Banker’s INVITE” is no surprise.

  29. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 10:10 am

    So, does anybody know if Ostrowski is practicing with the BB team at all?

  30. papajoe2 December 10, 2011 10:14 am

    Think I read that Miah is practicing.

  31. Stephen Tsai December 10, 2011 10:18 am

    Ostrowski actually was placed on the active roster this past Monday.

    Because he was a grayshirt, this is his last basketball season, although he will be allowed one more football season.

  32. jm2375 December 10, 2011 10:19 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Congrats to the Wahine on a great game last night and a great season. Best wishes to the Seniors in their next phase of life.

    We will be attending tonight’s game and cheering for Pepperdine.

    On to the Spring sports! Anxiously awaiting more volleyball starting Jan 5th!

    Join the conversationalists and the Screechers at the SSC. 😆 😆 😆

  33. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 10:26 am

    Hopefully Ostrowski fills that missing element for the BB team. They need to start stringing the wins together.

  34. ai-eee-soos December 10, 2011 10:38 am

    bringing this football item, over from the previous post …

    December 10th, 2011 at 1:10 am

    UH offers TE, Keoni Bush-Loo a scholarship. 6-4, 240 lbs. (4.75 40 yd dash);

    Kamehameha – Kapalama

    *** Thanks to Sportsbow ***

  35. papajoe2 December 10, 2011 10:38 am

    Still go a slight headache from watching that blurry ESPN3 last night. Was worth it though. What a game. Too bad we had to play each other early in the tournament.

  36. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 10:42 am


    If USC goes on to win the NC and blows the rest out of the water in 4 or less…then, we saw the real championship game last night.

  37. d1shima December 10, 2011 10:47 am

    Is there a banner for that?

  38. 808Bowler December 10, 2011 10:52 am

    What kind offense does rush run at san fran?

  39. Garret December 10, 2011 10:57 am

    Tougher conference competition will be crucial to prepare the Wahine for matches like last night’s battle. I hope that the Big West helps sharpen them better for the tournament, the long WAC win streak was a sign that the WAC wasn’t up to the level of competition UH needed. I’m happy that SDSU will join the Big West.

    San Diego State is expected to announce on Monday that it is joining the Big West Conference in all sports other than football, effective July 2013.

    The Big West has TV contracts with ESPN and Fox Sports. By contrast, most Aztecs games in recent years were shown on the Mountain West’s TV network, The Mtn., which is not available to about 200,000 Time Warner Cable subscribers in the northern part of San Diego County.

  40. PolyMom December 10, 2011 10:58 am

    Is it true Lumpkin applied for the HC job? Seriously?

    If you watch the Army v Navy game I see how good our country is. I applaud all of these fine young men and women in our service academies.

  41. Ipu Man December 10, 2011 11:02 am

    Army 14 Navy 14 at half time…

  42. Don Weir December 10, 2011 11:02 am

    Old School

    Another name came to mind from the 70’s, Safety Don Herrold.

    He is another story I can catch you up on when we meet.

  43. jm2375 December 10, 2011 11:02 am

    Did I hear the announcers right? Navy had a game this season where they didn’t even attempt a pass? Uh huh. Don’t know if I could stand a whole season of games like that.

  44. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 11:07 am


    The run something very similar to our RnS… lots of passing.. but employing a run game as well. 14 out of the last 15 QBs he has coached have gone on to play in Div 1 football. 95% of his players also go on to Division 1. In 2005, they returned only 1 starter on Offense (sound familiar) and went on to win their Conference and Northern California championship.

    Jeremiah Masoli played for him.

  45. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 11:09 am


    Maybe they have to have a minority in there… his name was tossed into the hat the last time around, too.

  46. RedZone December 10, 2011 11:11 am

    Our offensive players should adjust easily to coach Rushes offense.

  47. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 11:14 am

    Rolo also played for Rush… so offensively, both understand and appreciate each other’s acumen for the sport. Would he keep Aranda or bring in his own? I don’t know.

  48. Garret December 10, 2011 11:15 am

    Update on the coaching searches at other schools. It looks like Fresno State is close to a decision already.

    Fresno State: I am hearing the job is down to Alabama offensive coordinator / quarterbacks coach Jim McElwain and Oakland Raiders running backs coach Kelly Skipper.

  49. Garret December 10, 2011 11:18 am

    Interesting historical background on the MWC’s TV deal. It provides insight on why BYU decided to leave. It is interesting that the MWC’s TV deal would be just about over now, but the MWC decided to extend the deal. I really hope that CBS/Comcast doesn’t have the right to extend the deal to 2020!

    The presidents met with the TV partners and agreed in principle to the various terms and provisions of the deal. The presidents then delegated authority to Craig Thompson to sign the final deal. Prior to signing, certain provisions, especially a few of importance to BYU, were left out of the final contract. After CT’s review of that final document, he prepared an executive summary and sent it to the presidents. His executive summary made no mention of the changes to the final document. It wasn’t until BYU moved forward on some things with BYUtv (things which had been approved verbally prior to signing), that Comcast stepped in and enforced the terms of the final agreement, terms which BYU was not aware had been changed.

    BYU, after unsuccessfully trying to get Comcast, et al to restore the provisions that had been verbally agreed to, and after unsuccessfully trying to get Comcast to stop using the TV deal as a way to leverage cable customers in Utah, hired Kelly Crabb’s law firm in 2007 to see what remedies might be found. The hiring of Crabb’s firm and some other pressures, including CBS’s purchase of CSTV, finally led to getting the Mtn on DTV, but BYU couldn’t get Comcast, et al to address the other issues.

    BYU then began fundraising in earnest that year (2007) for the new TV production facility and the groundwork was laid for independence, an option that had been studied off and on for years by BYU. Utah’s departure may have accelerated the timetable a bit, or better stated, removed some of the reasons to stay any longer, but given the length of the MWC deal and Comcast’s complete unwillingness to work with BYU, the timing then became right, from BYU’s POV, to go indy.

    BYU was on board with the original deal agreed to with CSTV but was not in agreement with what the deal eventually morphed into. You can criticize BYU for allowing some of the things to transpire, but in fairness to BYU, at the time some of this was going down, BYU was changing its President, AD and both football and basketball HC’s (as well as some other key administrative positions). Things slipped through the cracks that might not have at a different time.

    The very nature of how the MWC TV deal went down informed BYU’s recent negotiations and prompted BYU to want everything clearly locked down in writing when talking to the Big East (and the B12 for as far as the talks went).

    (BTW, the original deal with CSTV was for 7 years. The conference chose to extend it when Comcast bought in and there are several credible sources who have heard that CBS/Comcast received an additional option period that could extend the contract an additional 4 years beyond that, under certain parameters.)

  50. papajoe2 December 10, 2011 11:20 am

    I understand that Coach Rush is in excellent shape. It’s just that, with him being 64 years old, how long will he be coaching? 1, 3, 5 years? Longer? I do like his system and what he did with his teams though.

  51. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 11:22 am

    I forgot to add that in 2005, Rush’s team went 11-1 with only one returning starter on Offense.

    The more I read about this guy, the more intriguing he becomes. Only question is, can he do the same at the D1 level? His players have demonstrated time and time again (95%) that they can. So why not Rush?

  52. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 11:24 am


    He might be the bridge we need right now to finish the foundation that JJ and Mack have laid. Academics, conditioning, team work, ohana, ethics, and now we need.. winning!

    When he’s ready to retire, maybe Rolo will be ready to take the helm.. even Miano.

  53. Slugger December 10, 2011 11:28 am

    Good morning (still), gang!

    Saw you in the stands, ST, with Wena and the “boys”.

    GO NAVY!!! (Sorry, Kekoa)

  54. Slugger December 10, 2011 11:29 am


    Kuahiwi Ranch was at the KCC Farmer’s Market this morning…

  55. papajoe2 December 10, 2011 11:29 am

    Maybe our powers that be should talk to BYU as to how they will survive being an independent. Navy will now belong to a onference, thus making the independents number doen to 4. If it can work maybe that would be our route. Losing money from the MWC for us not having PPV and having to pay travel costs to a conference that is not was it was when we agreed join. “Treat it like a business.” Business looks like it will lose money in the MWC.

  56. 808Bowler December 10, 2011 11:32 am

    Thanks mih. Ya he sound like a very good candidate. I understand why he was invited to apply. Rolo would fit right in.

  57. RedZone December 10, 2011 11:42 am


  58. al December 10, 2011 11:44 am

    i’m not rushing for rush.

    there’s a huge disparity between d1 an jc.

  59. al December 10, 2011 11:45 am

    like high school div 1 is to pop warner.

  60. 808Bowler December 10, 2011 11:48 am

    True but that’s where alot of coaches get experience. In dII then move up.

  61. d1shima December 10, 2011 11:53 am

    …and a lot choose to make coaching DII/DIII a career for many good reasons.

    Tend to agree with al though, 2-yr and 4-yr schools are different animals.

  62. al December 10, 2011 11:56 am

    we talking jc not even d2 or 3.

  63. Pomai December 10, 2011 12:06 pm

    #58 al – sorry al football is football be it High School or Pro, you work with the players you have you teach it the same way. I’m surprised that some have brought up the name of local High School coaches but question a JC coach?????

  64. 808Bowler December 10, 2011 12:10 pm

    Forgot that san fran is not dII. But hey being a hc is tough no matter what level. Esp a successful hc. He could have that it factor for hc to be successful. I’m not promoting him by any means.

  65. 808Bowler December 10, 2011 12:12 pm

    Wish knew the whole list of apps. Isnt there a act for that? Like freedom of information act?

  66. Dennis Halloran December 10, 2011 12:15 pm

    CCSF will win but still be the second best JC in California behind Riverside CC which already beat Mt Sac but was not allowed in the playoff because they were SECOND TIER CONFERENCE. WARRIORS CAN RELATE!

  67. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 12:38 pm

    I agree with you guys that success at the JC level does not necessarily translate to the D1 level, but motivation does. Yet, to win 7 nationals championships, and 19 conference championship in 21 years at that level is still pretty impressive and more importantly, it shows consistency and a coach that knows how to maximize his personnel. Furthermore, the teams we will be playing for the most part, in all honesty, are on the lower spectrum of D1 — and that’s what makes him, in my mind, a viable candidate.

  68. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 12:39 pm

    Think some of his players would follow him to Hawaii?

  69. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 12:46 pm


    I think some of the applicants may want to keep it confidential until they are finalists. (May want to keep their present jobs, just in case.)

    Besides when you ask UH if there isn’t an ACT for sometin’ lik dat… dey will respond.. “Yes… it’s called the NO ASK, NO ACT! … btw have you donated to the Alumni Fund, yet?”

  70. NYUH December 10, 2011 12:50 pm

    Army-Navy game a good one and Hawaii getting good exposure from the two opposing coaches.

  71. Hiflyer December 10, 2011 12:53 pm

    MIH – It’s are you a Na Koa member or have you donated to AKA.

  72. d1shima December 10, 2011 1:02 pm

    Recall another guy who rode his successful career record to a DI job:

    Gerry Faust

  73. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 1:10 pm

    Did Ron Lee throw his name into the hat, too?

  74. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 1:10 pm

    Or Cal?

  75. d1shima December 10, 2011 1:12 pm


    No practice update….

  76. al December 10, 2011 1:14 pm

    a d1 hc is no longer only about x’s and o’s.

    he has to be all things to the program..

    he has to run the business as does the ceo of a large multi-million dollar operation.

    while at the same time he has to be hands on with the day to operations/coaching.

    he manages a multi-million dollar budget as well.

    compare that to a jc program with little or no budget.

  77. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 1:16 pm

    Hmmm George Rush was here in July…

    July 26—Ethics in College Athletics (and how it relates to professional sports), with George Rush, San Francisco City College head football coach; Jim Donovan, UH director of athletics; Nick Rolovich, UH football offensive coordinator; and Dick Tomey, former head football coach, UH and San Jose State University

  78. 808Bowler December 10, 2011 1:17 pm

    Good one mih.

  79. al December 10, 2011 1:17 pm

    73…joking right?

  80. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 1:21 pm


    More minority entries.. no? Play it safe…

  81. Matt December 10, 2011 1:27 pm

    UCLA Women’s VB team just beat “#1 seed” Texas in 4 sets.

  82. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 1:35 pm

    Oh Wait, got Norm Chow, too … no need. 😉

    Hope UH can interview and get it sorted before they all have to give their final commitments elsewhere.

  83. RedZone December 10, 2011 1:39 pm

    Hey Miano said if you add a “y” to his name he would be nippon.

  84. d1shima December 10, 2011 1:43 pm


  85. d1shima December 10, 2011 1:44 pm

    Come on…you thought it, too!

    Yeah, you! 😈

  86. BigWave96744 December 10, 2011 1:45 pm

    Last season, Mt Sac prepped for us, Castle Boy Breydan Torres- Keohokapu. hopefully after this fall we get another Castle Boy, Garrett Paredes 🙂

  87. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 1:52 pm

    jeeze… Rush had a win streak of 42 games!… considering that he doesn’t keep his players all that long, that’s pretty durn good.

  88. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 1:53 pm

    His play book must be simple enough to learn and execute, but tricky enough to win games. For a Mid-major program, that might be what we really need right now.

  89. Bleed Green and White December 10, 2011 2:04 pm

    The thing about Rush or any other JC coach, to me anyway, the biggest difference is no rules.

    It’s almost like the old school NAIA, JC has no NCAA guidelines, not recruiting restrictions etc.

    I’m all for a JC guy getting a chance, but let’s start them off as assistants, maybe G.A.’s……

  90. Ralph December 10, 2011 2:06 pm

    DTD loses another player, Jasmine Ray, according to McInnis. Not a good sign for DTD, two recruits in two years leaving the program after the season commences. Last season Keianna Evans left after the 4th or 5th game into the season.

    Both were JC recruits, another sits on the bench, Mingo, who hasn’t seen much action this season and rarely played last season. Who is feeding DTD with the JC recruiting reports for her to be so off in knowing who she is bringing into the program.

  91. d1shima December 10, 2011 2:11 pm


    maybe it’s duffer! 😯

  92. ai-eee-soos December 10, 2011 2:16 pm

    don’t know how old this bit is …

    Penn State has contacted Utah head coach Kyle Whittingham about its coaching vacancy, according to CBS Sports. According to the report, Whittingham still has interest in the Arizona State opening.

  93. Ralph December 10, 2011 2:25 pm

    D1 you may be right, all of them are taller and faster than Duffer, so he thinks they ought to be good basketball players. No wonder we are getting beat in the transition game, Duffer way too slow.

  94. kkobi425 December 10, 2011 2:31 pm

    ST, any way to change the header on the Hawaii Warrior Beat homepage. Tired of seeing the BYU score and UH record. Maybe put up the basketball stats.

  95. Bugaz December 10, 2011 2:35 pm

    A good year for the Wahine! Could it have been great if coach had more consistency with his assistant coach? Maybe UCLA vs USC for the NC the only two teams they loss to

  96. Ralph December 10, 2011 2:38 pm

    Illinlois up 1-0 on Florida, set 2 Florida 18-17. Stephanie Ferrell, former Na Wahine, plays for the Gators.

  97. Bugaz December 10, 2011 2:42 pm

    I’m sure if Rush is not capable of making the jump or otherwise, Rolo and JD’s commity would have more of a clue. Whoever they chose, I can’t wait for all the recruiting news, spring ball, and next season. Best of luck Warrior Nation!!!

  98. Bugaz December 10, 2011 2:44 pm

    Ferrell was a good one for us. Good luck to her!

  99. tommui December 10, 2011 2:50 pm

    I would like to share an experience with you all, about drinking and driving. As you well know, some of us have been known to have had brushes with the authorities on our way home from the odd social session over the years.

    A couple of nights ago, I was out for a few drinks with some friends and had a few too many beers and some rather nice claret. Knowing full well I may have been slightly over the limit, I did something I’ve never done before – I took a bus home.

    I arrived home safely and without incident, which was a real surprise, as I have never driven a bus before and am not sure where I got this one.

    Happy Holidays, one and all.

  100. Ralph December 10, 2011 2:51 pm

    Florida/Illinois tied, 1-1, Ferrell hitting 2/2/8=.000

  101. Bugaz December 10, 2011 3:00 pm

    A friend of mine only took a moped on a drunken night in Spain and was rewarded with complimentary stay in Spanish jail.

  102. Pride. December 10, 2011 3:04 pm

    I’m somewhat concerned about the interim staff making offers to recruits. I think that they should maintain contact and dialogue, but allow the next staff to tender the offers. Hmmmmm.

  103. admrvt December 10, 2011 3:05 pm

    Rush is an intriguing prospect. But remember a coach named Kraft? He also was a very good JC coach that was hired by SDSU. Son is Kevin Craft that UH (JJ) was recruiting before he left. Craft could not make the adjustment from JC to SDSU.

  104. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 3:20 pm


    LOL.. better check who else was in the bus with you.. might still be in your house somewhere.

  105. PolyMom December 10, 2011 3:26 pm

    @tommui…thanks so much for taking the bus home. Some of us have lost loved ones due to drunk drivers. I am always the designated driver as I do not drink alcohol or caffeine. Then my husband can enjoy his scotch and whiskey. You drink whiskey tommui?

  106. Ipu Man December 10, 2011 3:26 pm

    Thanks Tommui, I needed that…:>)

    Is it September yet?

  107. PolyMom December 10, 2011 3:27 pm

    @marek Hawaii…LOL! You so funny.

  108. al December 10, 2011 3:29 pm

    99…funny yet sobering.

  109. al December 10, 2011 3:30 pm

    …and next time don’t park the bus in my stall.

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  111. WarriorNY December 10, 2011 3:43 pm

    Well deserved Heisman for Robert Griffin III. Hats off to him for breaking Colt’s QB Rating record…

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  113. Ralph December 10, 2011 3:48 pm

    Illinois earns berth into the final four by defeating Florida 3-1. Stephanie Ferrell hit 4/4/13=0.00 in 4 games.

  114. Ralph December 10, 2011 3:49 pm

    Iowa State will take on Florida State next, followed by USC and Pepperdine.

  115. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 3:58 pm

    For comparison sake…

    Tom Craft compiled an overall record of 115-56 and three national Junior College football championships at Palomar.

    George Rush … Record as head coach: 296-86-4 20 conference, 12 Northern California, six state championships, six national (decided by vote) championships won at CCSF…

  116. Kekoa December 10, 2011 3:58 pm

    Tom ~ Please bring the bus to Murphy’s tonite. I’m sure there will be a capacity load of Tsaiko’s willing to help you navigate. Koakane can drive.

  117. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 10, 2011 3:59 pm

    If Fresno can go after and presumably afford a big time coordinator from one of the biggest programs in the country, so can we.

    Last time I checked, Fresno is suffering in the pocketbook just like we are.

    Again, I found it interesting that JD has left the issue of the new HC’s salary open. “Depending on the quality of the finalists,” according to Reardon.

  118. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 10, 2011 3:59 pm

    Btw my #117 doesn’t mean we SHOULD…just that we should be able to if we wanted to.

  119. Shoko December 10, 2011 4:08 pm

    I throw my name in for Warriors next HC.

    Here’s my playbook…








    Field Goal! Uh, no punt!

    On second thought, I don’t think I’m qualified.

  120. Ipu Man December 10, 2011 4:08 pm

    Merry Christmas all Tsaikos…

    …in Japanese and English

    with lots of good old fashioned Christmas music.


  121. Bleed Green and White December 10, 2011 4:18 pm



    I’m laughing my butt off, great story, funny as heck!



    Thank you! I thought I was the only one to have such a concern. From the beginning of the week post McMackin, I have had the same thought and have asked the same question. For whom are Hawaii assistant coaches recruiting?

  122. Old Diver December 10, 2011 4:25 pm

    Football is Football. Coaching is Coaching. Head football coach on the D1 level is not head football coach on the JC level. There is so much more to being a head coach at the D1 level.

  123. da keed December 10, 2011 4:29 pm

    #121 – Eh Bleed Green. Das paht of da interim head coache’s politico campayn.

  124. d1shima December 10, 2011 4:31 pm


    IIRC, the going rate is $40k per pulled offer. Better add that into the new contract equation.

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  129. Bleed Green and White December 10, 2011 4:44 pm

    Also, and I gotta add this.

    Only Hawaii, maybe only U of H, force out a coach and then seemingly it’s gonna take forever to get a replacement named.

    Committee this, committee that, why can’t someone in power just make a damn decision?

    I mean at most other schools, in my opinion, they do it right. A plan seems to be in place before you pull the trigger on one guy.

    Most credible institutions have a replacement plan don’t they?

    It makes me sick almost, that we, Hawaii, always have to go thru such non-sense. One day, one day, I hope someone makes a stand and says hold me accountable, and than that someone makes a damn decision.

  130. d1shima December 10, 2011 4:51 pm


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  131. d1shima December 10, 2011 4:53 pm

    A little hope.

    Cincinnati coach Mick Cronin provided much-needed perspective afterward.

    “On our side, on their side, guys need to grow up. There is zero excuse for that. The world doesn’t revolve around them.” Cronin said he made his players remove their jerseys immediately after the game, and doesn’t know when he will allow them to wear the jerseys again.

    “That’s so they have a full understanding of where they go to school, what the university stands for and how lucky they are to even be there. A whole lot of kids can’t pay for college.

    “(Players) need to have respect that they are on scholarship and people come to see them play. They’re (representing) institutions of higher learning. I go to a school where they discovered a vaccine for polio. I think that’s more important than who wins a basketball game.”

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  132. tommui December 10, 2011 4:58 pm

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  133. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 4:59 pm

    Bleed Green and White:

    I think maybe they are taking a page out of the PAC 12 way.. like ASU….

  134. Derek December 10, 2011 5:06 pm

    2012 Recruits committed:

    Dustin Austin, OL

    Justin Turner, DB

    Ikaika Woolsey, QB

    Ipulasi Eselu, LB, DE

    Ellis Henderson, WR

    Justin Alo, QB (maybe)

    That’s all folks. Anybody else?

    Eddie Lackey, LB decommitted and committed to Baylor, I think.

  135. tommui December 10, 2011 5:10 pm

    BLEED G&W #129

    From what I read in the papers – and it must be true – some decision will be made on Monday.

    Coach Mac was let go Monday past. State law requires an ad (five days) that a vacancy exist and to submit an application. The Committee presumably looks at the applications that come in during the five days and thereafter and make a recommendation in numerical order as to preference. The AD can accept it (or reject it) and select whoever he thinks will be best.

    It is like Civil Service as to a listing of, say, the top ten candidates.

    Essentially the committee is just a screening committee.

    In theory you can make the choice after the five days publication but the interviews may take more time. I think (but not certain) if you can interview candidates during the time the screening committee goes through the application.

  136. Derek December 10, 2011 5:13 pm

    Who is the former USC volleyball player that left the program and who might be resurfacing here? Is she here in Hawaii? Someone’s UH football player’s girfiriend? Read something about it some time ago so just asking. Are Shoji’s 2012 recruiting class is filled? I know Olevao is one of them. Who are the others?

  137. Bryson December 10, 2011 5:36 pm

    #136:Falyn Fonoimoana is the ex USC Vball Player,her bf is Siaki Cravens

  138. bigislandkurt December 10, 2011 6:03 pm

    From the saga of the coaching search to last night’s heartbreaking wahine loss, I guess everybody is feeling the collective drain. Need to detox from sports for a few moments.

    Are you ready for some basketball??


  139. PolyMom December 10, 2011 6:14 pm

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    Stuck in the house on the big island. I have not seen rain and wind like this since hurricane Eva. I hope the trees on Shipman property does not fall on me. Was supposed to attend a fundraiser tonight. No way, going to bunker in. Way to dangerous to be on the road tonight.

    Keep safe and dry everyone!

  140. Really? December 10, 2011 6:31 pm

    All the college coaches in America, and we are excited about a 64 year old JUCO Coach? Really?

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  155. kev-1 December 10, 2011 9:59 pm

    Been reading a lot about the coaching search on various blogs, etc. Saw a poll on one asking what people wanted in a coach and the results were overwhelmingly in favor of “strong recruiter.”

    What do you guys think? I know that a good recruiter recognizes talent and is a good salesman, but don’t you think the school that the guy is recruiting for makes a huge difference?

    For example . . . people are talking about the recruiting skills of Banker from OSU, especially that he recruits well out of Hawaii. IMO, his recruiting of Hawaii kids to OSU won’t translate to potential Hawaii recruits because a lot of the Hawaii kids that end up at OSU want to play for a better conference than the WAC or MWC. They go to OSU because its not that far from home. Bringing Banker here is not going to make those kids stay home. This is just my opinion though . . . I could be wrong.

    Just thinking a little too much credit is being given to the recruiter instead of the school they are recruiting to.

  156. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 10:19 pm

    Recruiting is critical BUT not necessarily the key quality for the Head Coach, especially if the HC can appoint the appropriate staff that are good at recruiting. More importantly the HC needs to have the contacts necessary to assemble a formidable staff that can teach sound fundamentals in all positions and are willing and able to following his lead in translating his wishes into action. If all the staff are on the same page, then so will all the players. AND when that happens, if the HC has a good strategy, losing is not an option.

  157. Old Diver December 10, 2011 10:39 pm


    Never thought about it from that angle but You make a good point.

  158. madeinhawaii December 10, 2011 10:46 pm

    Good to see Ostrowski back on the court…

    The Warriors will get a boost in this game with the season debut of point guard Miah Ostrowski. The 5-9 senior out of Punahou School joined the team this week after completing the football season as a starting receiver.

    Arnold has already named Ostrowski a tri-captain (along with Johnson and Vander Joaquim), and expects him to make an immediate contribution.

    “He’s earned it, we’re going to try and get him in there,” Arnold said.

  159. kev-1 December 10, 2011 11:09 pm

    #158 . . . true dat. They need a boost. I think they’ll be okay this season, but I was expecting a better start. Can’t wait to actually watch some Warrior hoops.

    Wish the mens hoops season was longer. It goes by so fast.

  160. jm2375 December 10, 2011 11:20 pm

    Congrats to Kanani & Jane Croson on being named to the All-Regional tournament team.



  161. gmahoney December 10, 2011 11:21 pm

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  162. kev-1 December 10, 2011 11:39 pm

    Hard to believe Kanani Danielson is a senior already. Time flies.

  163. papajoe2 December 10, 2011 11:40 pm

    er……….um…… who won the volleyball game?

  164. gmahoney December 10, 2011 11:43 pm

    PPJ2, USC won in 5. They face Illinois and UCLA faces FSU on 12/15.

  165. dozo bozo December 10, 2011 11:49 pm

    #117: If Fresno can go after and presumably afford a big time coordinator from one of the biggest programs in the country, so can we.

    Jim McElwain was Fresno’s offensive coordinator during the 2007 season. Nick Saban contacted him for the Alabama job when Major Applewhite left for Texas. Pat Hill ironically said at the time that McElwain would one day be an excellent head coach.

  166. Aaron December 10, 2011 11:51 pm

    Bleed Green – how do you know that it will take so long to find a replacement? it’s only been a week! there are still other coaching vacancies out there, so it’s not like we are the only ones. at least let something happen before you complain about it.

  167. rb December 10, 2011 11:56 pm

    Is there any interest by Hal Mumme to head coach Hawaii

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  172. hapahaoleboy December 11, 2011 1:07 am

    Can’t believe some folks on here are seriously asking who the assistants are recruiting for right now. They’re recruiting for UH, that’s who. You think Penn State assistants didn’t keep recruiting for Penn State when JoePa hit the road? If anything, when a HC is fired, that’s exactly when the crew that’s left needs to reassure recruits that Hawaii is program and place they need to be a part of…regardless of who the coach will ultimately be.

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  175. Pride. December 11, 2011 2:15 am


    December 10th, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    I’m somewhat concerned about the interim staff making offers to recruits. I think that they should maintain contact and dialogue, but allow the next staff to tender the offers. Hmmmmm.

    #172 – Is there anything in my statement that differs with what you said in yours? Maintain contact and dialogue. Let them know that we are extremely interested. But don’t make any offers. Allow the next staff to make the offers based on their assesment of the athletes and how they fit in with the recruiting strategies of the new staff.

    As Derek points out below, the new staff will come in with 5 or 6 less available scholarships to offer. They should be allowed to make the offers based around their own recruiting plans.


    December 10th, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    2012 Recruits committed:

    Dustin Austin, OL

    Justin Turner, DB

    Ikaika Woolsey, QB

    Ipulasi Eselu, LB, DE

    Ellis Henderson, WR

    Justin Alo, QB (maybe)

  176. Pride. December 11, 2011 2:20 am

    Dino Babers has offered the defensive coordinator job at E. Illinois to Akron DB’s coach Kim McCloud. Was hoping that we could get Kim here to Hawaii to coach the DB’s. Bummer.

  177. Pride. December 11, 2011 2:22 am

    Charlie Weis’ deal will around $2.5 million per year for 5 years (before additional incentives). His wife and daughter (who will continue to live in Florida) will also reportedly have unlimited use of a private plane to shuttle them back and forth as desired.

    We should add a private jet to our compensation plan.

  178. Pride. December 11, 2011 2:28 am

    Memphis coach Eric Price was hired by Tulane’s new coach Curtis Johnson to be the OC. ???????? Will he take the Memphis G.A. Craig Stutzman with him? Keep our fingers crossed, always great to see friends getting jobs.

  179. Pride. December 11, 2011 2:32 am

    Can’t believe that no one has taken a stab at hiring Wisconsin’s O.C. Paul Chryst to become a head coach. Kansas hires Weiss, and UCLA hires Mora Jr. I would have rather hired Chryst for about a million less.

  180. Pride. December 11, 2011 2:42 am

    Congratulations to Dino Babers.

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  182. newbie December 11, 2011 5:20 am

    #178 Stutz hasnt been at Memphis for a while now. Hes at a D3;

    #155 players may not want to stay if Banker becomes HC? They wanted to leave when Cav left. Some players do commit because of a coach, or not commit because of a coach.

    #140 Agree!

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  185. d1shima December 11, 2011 6:00 am

    Great Morning All!

    Great time at Murphy’s last night. Really nice to get together with everyone.

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  186. d1shima December 11, 2011 6:03 am


    Thanks for the coaching carousel updates.

    Thought for sure the Price was right.

  187. Silky Voice of the Gorn December 11, 2011 6:05 am

December 10th, 2011 at 8:59 am

    Curiosity shouldn’t be a reason for “cleaning house”

    If you are going to provide an opposing view, at least elaborate/qualify why. The above is no better than the trolls who swing by after a loss posting “fire the coach” one liners.

    And obviously, I did not do a good enough job the first time so let me try again and maybe spell things out in some order so that even those with poor comprehension skills can at least follow along.

    1) If you didn’t notice, attendance at Aloha Stadium dwindled over the season. Why? Not only because the team was losing but how they were losing. There are no excuses for the way we lost some games this past season and I placed that solely on the coaching staff.

    2) If you go back to what I originally posted, you will notice that I said successful head coaches surround themselves with quality assistants. Translation: they are the ones who are responsible for their individual areas. The head coach oversees the entire operations (usually at a macro level; though there are some who micromanage) Taken together with the student-athletes, they are supposed to operate as a team.

    Now, coaches including McMackin always say that injuries are no excuse as the next person in line has to be ready to step up. Anyone with half-a-brain knows that depends on how well they’ve been coached and prepared since that ends up being a key in determining the quality of a teams depth. The assistants again are primarily responsible for this.

    3) Now look back in general over the past 4 seasons at the overall picture and tell me honestly that you did not see any issues with this coaching staff. Can you even justify the way we lost on national television under this regime? Oh, and when I say coaching staff, I am primarily referring to the ones who were there from the start right after Jones bolted (so you can disregard certain individuals like Tomey, Tuioti, etc) Or in your mind, were most all of the issues solely on McMackin’s head and not his assistants and coordinators? Which would then justify why the red flag went up early with regards to McMackin in terms of his overall competence as a head coach. Remember, I also said earlier in my other post that these guys are highly paid professionals who have to coach up and teach these student-athletes. They have to provide the necessary leadership, guidance, and discipline. If you notice, good teams are able to execute in all facets from the coaching all the way to the offense, defense, and special teams play. Or am I seeing this all wrong and out to lunch? I’m all ears to hear how wrong I am on this front.

    4) After 4 seasons of inconsistent (product on the field — not talking about the consistency on the sideline with questionable clock management or the inability to make timely adjustments) results, what is your personal explanation for this? I stated my opinions before and tried to elaborate why. If you and others can’t be bothered to read and comprehend the entire posting, then don’t bother responding with useless one liners. My answer (again, a personal opinion for those who need to have that aspect spelled out) is that the results are due primarily to the coaching staff. Don’t agree, then you are free to qualify why you feel otherwise. That, I can respect.

    5) So based on logic, why would anyone expect things to change drastically by keeping said same people employed? Furthermore, how do you convince the general public which decided to stay away (a vote of no confidence by their actions) that things will get better with a coaching staff comprised of those from the previous regime; the same ones who failed to deliver a consistent (in terms of winning and/or competitiveness) on-the-field product over the course of 4 seasons?

    Take off the green and white colored glasses for a second and look at this from the perspective of those who stopped going to the games. Can you honestly say that Miano is a compelling enough reason for these people to jump back on the bandwagon? If so, I want whatever it is that you are smoking. Reality check = every program has bandwagon fans but the issue is more noticable with mid-major programs — regardless what you or I may think of them, they are an important lifeblood to these programs. They fill those seats that would otherwise be empty. They generate additional revenue by the purchase of merchandise which otherwise would just rot on the shelf. Which is why winning or at least being highly competitive is crucial. Or was I just hallucinating and all those empty seats that I saw were actually people masquerading as orange, blue, brown, red, and yellow seats?

    6) So based on what I’ve written so far, provide me your explanation as to how you see promoting from within will solve the above and generate a keen interest and a level of curiosity which fills the stands? Here, I’ll throw you something else to think about… the usual response I’m hearing from what would be the everyday joe is that Miano does not interest them at all because it will generally be more of the same old thing (and no, his on air appearances has done little to change that sentiment with the average person, at least the ones I’ve talked to) If he is the one and he retains even 3-4 from the current staff, then there are no excuses when it comes to the issue of “this coaching staffs recruits” because most of that staff have been here since June Jones was the coach. We’ll be running nearly the same offense with a few tweaks here and there with Rolo being unleashed so there should be no excuse that we cannot get back up to speed quickly where this offense is rolling up yardage and putting points on the board to a level where we can outscore the opposition.

    7) So to wrap all the above up, this is what I meant by “short leash”. They don’t deliver results right away, the general public will get on the coaching staff quickly and stay away, killing important revenues and putting the entire athletics program further into a hole. OTOH, cleaning out the house and starting fresh provides a completely different set of metrics because you are no longer as tied to the past with all of its excess baggage. Or are you saying that for yourself, nothing new and different does not peak your interest and curiosity? I can’t read your mind if you don’t elaborate and provide rationale for your position.

  188. VonAppen December 11, 2011 6:16 am

    Voice of the Gorn logic sounds like Hugh Yoshida before he hired you know who….

  189. madeinhawaii December 11, 2011 6:26 am

    Oddly… I do agree with the Voice of the Gorn in that the responsibility for last season falls on the entire coaching staff. Mack took the brunt of it.. but the rest are as liable as he is. That is one of the main reasons why I cannot endorse anyone currently on staff for the HC position.

    If they could not successfully convey their ideas and wishes to Mack over the past 4 years and got shut down, then will they be able to successfully convey their ideas and wishes to the others, as well?

  190. madeinhawaii December 11, 2011 6:30 am

    Especially, as has been suggested, if one believes that their (the assistant coaches) hands were tied because of Mack.

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