Back to work
The Warriors will spend little time lamenting yesterday’s one-sided loss
Because of Friday’s road game against BYU, the schedule has been rearranged. Today is considered Monday, which means the Warriors will have meetings and conditioning drills this afternoon. The game plan against BYU will be installed tomorrow; it usually is implemented on a Tuesday.
The Warriors will leave Wednesday afternoon.
The Warriors are hopeful running back Joey Iosefa, who was held out of the Nevada game because of his ankle injury, will be available for Friday’s game.
One thing for certain is Alex Dunnachie, who completed his three-game suspension, will be the punter. Quarterback Cayman Shutter, also free from suspension, will compete for playing time.
First!!
We had some strong ball carriers. That was a plus.
Can I suggest a new format for the Coach Chow.
Something like this:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/102975
😆 😆 😆
Morning!
Top Ten?!
Finally met a Tsaiko last night…Slugger. What an awesome fan! It was a truly a pleasure Aunty! That was pretty much the highlight of the evening for me. BTW, did anyone see Kirk Cameron in the stadium last night? Cause this is definitely some “Growing Pains.” But like I said last night, another opportunity to show that I am a TRUE fan! #bleedgreen #warriorforlife
Lick da wounds, heal up and practice hard!
GO WARRIORS!!!
I meant Coach Chow Show…
Good morning everybody.
lucky sevens
oops, only a ten.
11 🙁
Kevin:
I think had Kenan’s suit, only it was with the ruffled shirt.
Brain lock here. What was name of the tux rental place in Kaimuki?
12 🙁
errrr… 15
Good to have those guys back, but I don’t think any other qb will play unless we winning by a bunch.
“Quarterback Cayman Shutter, also free from suspension, will compete for playing time”? Does that mean he’s moved up to #2?
Sorry for the late post. I woke up at 10.
MIH:
No, it means he will compete in the battle for No. 2.
He practiced in the red jersey last week.
Taylor Graham and Ikaika Woolsey portrayed Cody Fajardo in last week’s practices.
Last night was tough, but the sun came up this morning.
Well, kind of. Actually it stay all cloudy and misty. Can’t really see the sun. But you know what I mean.
The sun did come up right?
kden lunch prayer meeting at Big City Dinner Pearl Ridge starting 11. Kevin and me so far
@3 Kevin, I just have one question for you…”what up Wit Dat?
😆 Thanks, I needed that! Trouble is the song is stuck in my head.
A lot of of obstacles this week: Earlier schedule, altitude, etc. Most of all it is within. UH needs to fix what is broken. This is a transition year. It’s not going to be without obstacles.
Another blown call by the replacement referees in the NFL. Lions receiver caught a pass, was hit and fumbled. Recovered by Titans on the run with an open field ahead and time running out. Refs blew the whistle and called it an incomplete pass, giving the ball back to the Lions. Next play was the last play in regulation and the Lions caught it for a touchdown. Extra point ties the game. Headed to overtime.
yea sun neva puka thru so still feeling poorly about da game
morning again warrior and wahine country.
ST #19~ You never know. The starting qb was named in 2 days without playing a game since 2008.
HawaiiMongoose:
Not sure if it came up on my side of the rock.
It’s still cloudy. And it rained really hard.
But I’m fairly certain it’s a new day.
By the way, Davone Bess kept alive Miami’s tying drive by drawing a face-guarding penalty against Kyle Wilson. In most cases, I would be happy when a former Warrior out-does a former Bronco. But this is Jets-Dolphins we’re talking about.
Double double?
Yep rebuilding year. I have to remember that in order to understand why we are where we are.
Two words for the program…Go practice.
ST,
you can be the dude dancing his okole off in the background cause you know Kekaula will have to play Keenan’s role. complete with the singing and dancing.
papajoe:
No worries. I singled you out.
Kevin:
Taping is at 1.
I think there’s still time to hire some background dancers.
@6 laulauhead: Sluggah was showing all da aunties at post game tailgate your suppah cool pichah complete with nice laulau hat! 🙂
“What’s Up With That” – w/Morgan Freeman
AWESOME!!!
http://www.hulu.com/watch/182715
Let’s get cracking on modifying “Inside Access with Coach Chow” like this ASAP!!!!
GOOD MORNING HAWAII!
The Sun Also Rises – but why?
Lick the Wounds, Regroup and Beat BYU!
Da natives are restless in Nolaville.
Shuttle to Big City Diner leaving in 5 mins. Pastor Koakane will be in charge of today’ services.
Don’t have much to say today, except: BRING BACK DAVONE BESS!!! Did he ever drop a pass in the end zone?
I really hope the start Cayman. Sean just isnt getting it done.
From “The Sun Also Rises” is the famous quote about things happening “gradually and then suddenly.”
That sort of reminded me of the score going from 20-17.
@33 mo808… Tanks ah, Aunty! Hope to meet all you guys soon!
ST, Are you referring to Hale Niu?
Plenty OTs today. I never thought I’d say this but they need to get the real referees back. Almost gave NO the game when the player was obviously down and the ground cannot cause a fumble anyway. Sorry 3-Prong. I kinda like the Saints but, fair is fair.
Oh, my.
Dolphins call timeout to ice the Jets’ kicker. The kick is then blocked.
On the re-boot, Jets kicker converts for the win.
Ninja:
Hale Niu!
Yes, that is it.
JJ lost two games in 2004 by similar scores:
10/29/2004 at (#18) Boise State* L 3-69
11/12/2004 at Fresno State* L 14-70
But bounced back.
Got my tux there for prom.
papajoe:
I think I wore your tux.
Pomai
17 -42 byu
Pomai. 41-10 BYU wins. 🙁
hard to win against a good team on a short week on the road.
GO WARRIORS!!!!
Pomai’ Picks
48 – 10 BYU
Tough butt kicking last night. Remember though that we are watching Coach Chow coach Greg McMackin’s recruits mostly and it will be not one but two or three years before we see a complete representation of Coach Chow’s vision in talent and coaching on our stadium field. No excuses here, just the reality of college football. We are running a Pro Style offense now with Run and Shoot Recruits. We are missing true tight ends, speed at tailback and receiver and Chow’s offense needs tall, athletic lineman who can pound people. Mack’s offensive line coach was a terrible recruiter and we lack depth now. As for defense, remember all the “talent” Mack was signing? I didn’t think he ever recruited well, especially in the secondary but time will tell. As for Rolo’s time here, he recruited so “well” at QB that all of his kids are sitting on the bench or gone and Chow went to a 5th year backup from Duke over all of Rolo’s recruits. I do believe Coach Chow knows a thing or two about QBs…… But Reno is still a nice ladder rung for Rolo to climb on his way to bigger and better things. Recruiting wins championships in college football, we’ll take our lumps this year with Mack’s kids and then next signing day we’ll see just how far Coach Chow and his staff are going to take us. I believe!
Buzz-Kill in NOLA. Hey maybe dey need one coach. Hehe!!!! Good fun anyway in da Supahdome. Got half price tickets on da street but da beer was Takai!!!
Who’s the Saints fan at Hawaii News Now?
I mean, Chiefs-Saints game?
Hmmmm…
Another duffer, a smarter one too! Probably younger and better looking too. Probably richer too!
🙂
Patience is da word! Da coaches are doin da best dey can wit wat dey got. Everything takes time to build…
Good to have Alex and Cayman back. Real tough road trip coming up.
UH 24-17
# 56 –
Like dey say – “Rome wasn’t built in a day.”
It’s a new week of school.
Welcome back students
Go Warriors!
Sagarin ratings for the MWC and a few other teams of interest:
18 Boise State
57 Nevada
82 San Diego State
88 Fresno State
92 New Mexico
114 UH
119 Air Force
121 Colorado State
129 Wyoming
149 UNLV
17 USC
72 BYU
172 South Alabama
203 Lamar
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc12.htm
Duffer,
I’m sorry but that’s a lame excuse for what happened last night…June Jones coached a bunch of Von Appen recruits and he won his first year out…What we are seeing is what happens when you don’t have 4-5 star talent all around to run a Pro Set offense…Nevada kicked our a$$ point blank period…hats off to them time for our Warriors to regroup and get ready for the showdown in Provo this Friday…
#52 Ditto
As for Reardon last paragraph in morn paper.
I don’t want Rolo back.I do wish him well!!
It’s a process for this team,lets not forget!!
#52 Ditto
As for Reardon last paragraph in morn paper.
I don’t want Rolo back.I do wish him well!!
It’s a process for this team,lets not forget!!
That defensive performance last night was a disgrace.
If this was the second consecutive game on the road and our players were road weary, I could better accept the lopsided score.. but at home, a week after a home game against Lamar? This was a very very bitter pill to swallow.
#52 is partly correct. Coach Chow is trying to run his version of the pro-style offense with Run and Shoot recruits. Did “Mac’s kids” not adapt suddenly to the new pro offense…? .. or were they not given the chance? Don’t bad mouth Rolo for recruiting R & S quarterbacks. Rolo was doing his job finding the best high school R & S quarterbacks for Hawaii. When Rolo was recruiting, the R & S was UH’s offense until Mac was fired and Chow was hired. Chow brought in the pro offense, dumped the R & S, and chose not to keep Rolo on to help with the transition. By Chow’s choice, some of the R & S recruits are sitting on the bench. Believe me, they would rather be playing football.
helencalif…
As I commented last night, Offensively I can understand the rebuilding process, but defensively? It should never be a rebuild. What we had last night was a mediocre offense and a very poor showing defensively… This may have been the worst defensive showing I have ever seen from the Warriors at home.
I’ve read/heard a lot about our QB play last night. How do people feel our receivers did? Or our TE’s?
They did okay. Thought Hall would get more catches tho. He’s a nice big target!
So, one day to acclimate to altitude at LaVall Edwards Stadium (4700 ft).
There were a number of dropped passes that should have been caught. Passes that may have changed the outcome of the game by keeping the offense on the field longer. I wonder if the receivers are using the juggs machines like their predecessors used to.
Re:68…The Only Offensive bright spot last night was Trevor Davis…SS holds on to the ball way to long for my liking…O-Line just doesn’t seem to have that punishing ability to run block yet I’m sure they will soon…As for RB Will Gregory is the best of the bunch so far…Lister just kind of follows the pile which is why he doesn’t gain a decent amount of yards….Last night our receiving core as well as RB and TE’s dropped passes during crucial times….
TE’s did as well as could be expected in the new system, but we did miss Iosefa.
The AF game will be a big test. Not only will the Warriors be dealing with the run-heavy triple-option, they have to do it at an elevation of 6,800 ft. Good Warriors don’t play Wyoming, their stadium has a field elevation of 7,300 ft. They’ll be sucking down O2 bottles like Gatorade.
After thought.
If UNLV can beat the triple option, so can the Warriors.
BYU might beat us by 60 points. Our defense isn’t in shape at sea level, much less at elevation
Here’s a question(s).
Do we have a better feel of where this team is at both offensively and defensively? And, is there a sense of optimism for bowl game?
Please, discuss. All opinions welcome.
Well, the line is 28.5 with the Warriors as underdogs. So far, they are 2-1 against the spread this season. I think I’ll take the Warriors to beat the spread.
Well, the line is 28.5 with the Warriors as underdogs. So far, they are 2-1 against the spread this season. I think I’ll take the Warriors to beat the spread.
One day to acclimate being at 4700 ft. is not enough. We live in the mountains at 4700 ft. Flatlander visitors feel the altitude. They are not too energetic and they want to sleep or rest a lot. I imagine the travel from Hawaii (jet lag), change in time zones, and the elevation in Utah would have an effect on football players. There it is… ready-made excuses in case they lose to BYU.
Takes about two weeks to get acclimated or you need to sleep in those specially designed Hypoxic Generator Nitrogen tents, which we don’t have.
#76,
I was very optimistic about a bowl game and a 6-7 win season. Now though i don’t think we can get to that level in the amount of time we have left. It’s ok though, so if we get progressively better it won’t be for not.
Yep, have to agree. When I travel and visit a place with a higher elevation, I usually start gasping when going for a short jog the next day. Usually takes me a week to acclimate, but it still affects my performance. Time zone changes, also affect me as well.
Only team undefeated against the spread in the MW is Fresno State. They are 4-0, but 2-2 in the W-L category.
Interesting. Jefferson was a lowly rated 2-star/5.1 recruit in 2009 by Rivals.com. I mean 5,1 is really quite low. Fajardo was a 3-star rated recruit. The WAC (2011) was unable to recruit a single 4-star player. That’s how its always been. Even JJ was unsuccessful in recruiting a 4-star player during his entire time as Warrior HC. You don’t need stars beside your name to be good.
Stephon Jefferso RB Visalia, CA El Diamante 5’11” 188 2 stars/5.1 (2009)
Cody Fajardo QB Anaheim, CA Servite 6’2″ 195 4.7 3 stars/5.5 (2010)
I think the new theory is that if you don’t have two weeks to acclimate, it’s better not to expose yourself to the conditions until the day of competition. Spending a day or two there prior to the competition actually can be detrimental as it lowers your body Oxygen levels and makes you feel lethargic on competition day.
Truthfully speaking, in the back of my mind I thought the Warriors would lose against Nevada. The Pack wasn’t one of the games I thought they would win to make it to a bowl game. Beating CSU, UNLV, NM, South Alabama, Lamar…with AF being a big question mark and deciding factor on whether the Warriors would make a bowl game.
Now that we are in the MW conference, there should be NO excuse for altitude. Better get used to it. Those challenges are nothing new for Chow….but this time, he’s the head coach of the visiting team. Nevada game brought many of us back to earth. We were kinda floating away for a bit. 🙂 Welcome back to reality. The rebuilding process is indeed a process. Last nights game was like watching your little brother get beat up. Was hard to watch.
BIK
#67. madeinhawii and #70. madeinhawaii
I agree with you. The defense was poor and their performance had nothing to do with rebuilding. Chow and the DC would know Reno’s offense and would have prepared for it. Whatever happened in practice to prepare for Reno’s offense was not evident in the game. Any time a score is in the 60s, the D did not do its job.
About the passing and receiving… some balls were dropped, but in defense of the receivers, some passes were thrown behind them. Some passes were loopy which allowed time for defenders to get under them.
Let’s hope the Warriors put on a better showing in the next two away games.
84. Good point. I think it depends on your skill set fitting into a certain system. The Pistol makes an average QB and RB better than average just like the RnS makes an average QB look like something special.
ST,
What a game by the Jets! lol… Sorry, Bess…
RE: Hawaii/BYU – The spread is 28.5? Does anyone know what the money line is? I’ll take that bet every day of the week… We struggled against the pistol cuz its a difficult offense to prepare for but against a pro style offense, our defense is very good…
I feel like Graves would have been the perfect scout QB for Nevada. I think Graves is a carbon copy of Farjardo.. Why did we do the Graham/Higgins scout team?
#74. Shako said:
“If UNLV can beat the triple option, so can the Warriors.”
Uh, Shako, have you watched any Falcon games this year? It was a close UNLV-AF game. I will be torn on Nov. 16 as to who to root for. I have a grandson QB on the Falcons.
No money line yet. Probably check back later at Vegas Insider (http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas/line-movement/hawaii-manoa-@-brigham-young.cfm/date/9-28-12/time/2000#AA) or find a different online sportsbook.
Not sure how mobile Higgins is, but Utah State do like QB’s who can run.
For those keeping track…
Mike Edwards is now #3 in the nation in kickoff return average… Way to go Mike!
Yep, saw the UNLV-AFA game last night. Actually, flipping back and forth between both games that started close together. Rebels do have a good QB (Sherry) and RB (Cornett). Even tho they are 1-3 so far, all of the games have been close (single digits). When you become torn between which team to root for, be impartial and just wish for a good game. Works for me.
Yep, Edwards is the real deal. He’s a pretty outspoken guy tho. I remember him in an interview calling Rolo an arrogant coach.
helenincali,
I hope David sees some playing time here with us this year. He’s just too good of a player… (IMHO)
Anyway, time for the Sunday Shoko family grill night (steak). Laterz!
100
0k neva mind
2nd century!
27-13 Warriors
UNLV 38 – AFA 35. It was a close game and not a rout. AFA came from Colorado Springs, CO, to play in Las Vegas where it was 94-degrees. I don’t know if that was the temperature on the field or the temp in the city. I’ll try to be impartial during the AFA-UH game, but I find Connor Dietz an exciting QB to watch.
Edwards is a gamer, but he had some good blocking too. Congrats to the ST unit
Helen,
Wait a minute, it just dawned on me. You said, “I have a grandson QB on the Falcons.”? It’s not Dietz, is it?
103. They say that altitude training does have its advantages when playing at a lower elevation. Not sure how much tho. Maybe the Pack had that benefit since they pratice at 4600 feet.
Was hoping they swapped out the QB. Plan A wasn’t working and hoped that maybe Graves could give the D a longer break, also let SS sit out to see what the D was doing.
Okay, back to grilling.
I guess game reps were more important.
I’ll post the money line if I see it somewhere. The 28.5 point spread is a crazy high number, I’d bet on UH to definitely cover that. The public often overreacts to losses and I think that this number is one of those cases.
I think that the smart gamblers also thought that UH was being underrated–the line went from 28.5 at 4pm to 28 at 6:50pm to 27.5 at 7:30pm…that means that the early betters were putting enough money on UH to move that line.
As bad as Warrior fans feel right now, I hope that they don’t get too down on the team. Remember, this is a new system and Mack’s recruits were chosen for a different system. Mack’s D definitely favored speed over size and was vulnerable to big/skilled OLs…but a solid OL gives problems to any D.
The UH coaching staff has clearly decided that they want the starters to get as many reps as possible in the new offense. For all 3 games so far I thought that the backups could get into the game sooner, but the coaching staff clearly has shown what their philosophy is on when to pull the starters.
My only worry (and I posted this as early as after the USC game) was that if the backups don’t get many game reps, what happens if the starters get hurt? It is clear that Coach Chow has decided that SS needs all the game reps that are possible this season…but so many QBs get hurt every season and it doesn’t look like UH’s backups are getting many game reps in this new system. Plus, I wince every time I see the extra hits that SS is taking. But Coach Chow knows 1000x more than me and I trust that he knows what is best for the team.
This isn’t just the QB, the starters are staying in quite long in games that have been decided. The coaches clearly decided that the starters need the game reps–maybe after the starters get the system down then the backups will get into the game earlier as the season goes along.
Ferrari parts are not necessarily fit into with a Masarati;nor do Ford parts fit into a Toyota.
I don’t know what the reason would be that we would expect people recruited for the run and shoot would fit immediately into the pro-set.
We can always pray for miracles – but sometimes it still takes time for prayers to be answered.
WarriorNY, thanks for sharing about Mike Edwards. He sure is giving us some good field position. “Inside Access” should be interesting tonight…wonder what ST’s segment will be about? 🙂
As bad as last nights loss was, I am not ready to turn in my UH fan card yet (nor will I ever be). I was glad to see that even though we are a run first team, we can go out there and have a pass only scoring drive. Just wondering why we got away from that so quick.
My biggest concern was that there didn’t seem to be defensive adjustments made at the half. the DE’s were getting into the backfield with ease, just nailing the wrong guy time after time. That is not an easy read to make, so why not pull back on the rush and make them try to run the ball through a waiting defense?
Oh well. Throw that one away and get ready for a better than Nevada BYU.
no team with comparable talent levels (each mid-majors) should ever get blown out by 45 points! ever! when you lose by 45 points to another mid-major, you got out-coached. period.
Getting blown-out by an elite (BCS) level school like USC, Alabama, Texas, LSU etc… is one thing, getting demolished so completely by another mid-major like Nevada, Fresno, Boise is a completely different animal and points to schemes, which points to coaching.
The offense almost always takes more time to get the right pieces in-place, but there is no excuse for the defense giving up 62 points (7 by a pick 6). IMHO
#97. WarriorNY. Thank you for your kind words about David. If you haven’t seen him play, his H.S. videos are on line as are the few times he played QB when Moniz did not play. I guess it could be said he is a carbon copy of Farjardo. He’s an accurate passer with a strong arm, has quick feet and can run. David would have done well at Reno and was heading there when Rolo came a-courting. No way to predict that 3 years later Mac would be fired, Rolo would be sent packing and end up at Reno, and the new UH coach would switch to the pro-style offense and dump the R& S, and take over coaching the QB’s. That is the hand David has been dealt.
I’ve always felt after SS was named starter that D.Graves should be used in a spread option package. Bring him in for 5-6 plays (or more) a game and see how it goes, if anything it will give the D something to think about. Graves is a good runner, athletic with a strong arm and would give the D fits IMO.
114. i mentioned that last night, all night. lol
My opinion:
SAWARRIOR:
September 23rd, 2012 at 8:52 am
our DC had the wrong scheme/mind set going into a game against a read option offense. an overly aggressive defense plays right into the hands of a read option offense. the nevada qb had to simply wait for his “key” commit then hand-off or keep himself. a read and react defense would have been the way to go, IMO. screen passes, draws, quick slants, qb option etc.. all easy play calls against our D. we played the same D versus USC.
I agree that there are definitely ways to use Graves. Anyone who has seen him play knows he has the “it” factor and needs to see the field in some capacity. I just give the kid credit for keeping his head up and being a team player. When you are in a rebuilding year, you have to get creative to try and win games. David Graves could help us do that. I’m not saying Schroeder shouldn’t be the starter. I’m just saying to get Graves in the game. Receiver, QB, Wildcat, Defense, whatever.
Shoko, you not paying attention. Her grandsons on both teams are both QBs and by some strange coincidence have the same parents.
SAWARRIOR . . . yeah, thanks. I didn’t want to go to last nights blog. Didn’t want to say anything I would have regretted today. I have done that in the past. A bad loss, then I say negative stuff, get people all worked up, then feel bad.
But in any case, I agree with what you said. Way too agressive against that offense. The positive though . . . Beau Yap should be a beast coming off the edge against MWC competition.
#105 Shok.
No, Connor Dietz is not my grandson. My grandson is Dano Graves — David’s younger brother. Google Dano Graves and you will find game films and lots of articles about him. Max Preps National Player of the Year, etc. Recruited by the AF. Spent his first year (last year) at the Prep School playing as a starting QB. (Good experience.) Graduated from the Prep School in late May, did bootcamp in July, advanced to the AFA. Called up as a freshman and put into the Falcon QB depth chart in early August. He is more exciting to watch than Connor Dietz. But then I am prejudiced.
BYU is not better than Nevada. BYU is defense is solid but they working their quirks on offense. This is going to be one fun game.
UH made Nevada look a lot better than they are last night.
121. we have good players on defense, i know they can hold their own against almost any D-1 team out their if given the right scheme. IMO No ways is Nevada 45 points better than our team.
Beau Yap, Edwards, Phillips, Grimes, Lutu all played well given the situation they were in.
I’m not blaming Chows Offense or Chris Demarest Special Teams for this lopsided loss. Although, the Oline play wasn’t great and the WR’s dropped way to many passes. Sean Schroeder better get used to running for his life every game until this Oline gels. Yes, it’s the first year and it’s a transistion year so my expectations are pretty low. But the defense sunk it up last night at home, at Aloha Stadium! Thom Kaumeyer needs to own this blowout by 62 points his defense gave up! Notice I subtracted for the pick 6. And he needs to make adjustments to his attacking Defense. Hawaii is lucky it’s only 29 point underdog against BYU. I think on the road Hawaii will lose by 35+ with the short week. The best player on the Warriors is Mike Edwards hands down.
Agree with those that feel that current situation is due to Run and Shoot players in general, trying to execute the Pro Set. Got to be patient. Win now or else mentality is counterproductive. Grapes don’t turn into wine overnight.
123. agree, BYU defense is solid, but the offense like u say has “quirks”. the biggest problem i saw with BYU was their QB, hopefully BYUs QB problem isn’t worked out by this coming friday.
just hope we have the balls to fast break em all game long. Like Nevada, BYU is bigger, stronger, faster than us. tough way to match up. the will to play will get broken over time if we go heads up. If we formulate the right mixture of physical and tactfulness in the important phases the defense is good enough to keep it close. We’ll get bigger, stronger and faster no doubt – thats the pro set offense. but until then hope we can figure it out and stay healthy.
did stutz have any drops? usually has great hands like his bro.
Billy Ray has a broken hand and is out for awhile.
Hope we “shaka” for every touchdown. payback for last years “shaka” taunting by BYU player in the end zone after his touchdown.
BYU is looking to get “back on track” against UH.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/cougars/54951450-88/byu-hawaii-offense-defense.html.csp
ST #54, a little sarcastic huh from the blog host? Am I reading it wrong? Just a Fellow Warrior Fan sharing some experiences. Thought it might lighten the mood following the tough loss.
3-prong. ” but da beer was Takai!!!” what does Takai mean?
knowing this is where would be and the pressure of actually being in this position is gonna tell a lot of this coaching staff. their backs are against the wall in this young season, I’m anxious to see how they are going to handle it. The Chase!
Sawarrior: Expensive. $8.50 for the 16 oz can plus tip. Mrs was thirsty too. Good service though. Beer runners come by often.
Hoping somone posts a link to today’s Coach Chow show.
oh, thank you. i thought it meant bitter or something like that lol
The rivalry with BYU is renewed. Throw all your stats, records win’s and losses out the effen window. look at the iCals and i’m sure you’ll find a lot of circles.
can you actually circle an iCal?
Use a grease pencil.
Or permanent marker.
Use white out to remove the circles on your screen.
the coaches show and luncheon is on monday? or sunday?
inside access — norm chow’s show — is at 7 pm tonight on channel OC16.
I’m sorry but I don’t see us beating BYU on the road. I hope we do but I’m having a difficult time believing it will happen.
Im not expecting much either vs BYU, other than show up in their house and show them we like scrap. combine that w/ mental focus and we dangerous! wins and losses will take care of itself.
thank u gigi
Jefferson looked like he was on cruise control when he ran through the UH defense. He was just picking his way through the hole(s) that he found, not going all out all the time, but turning it on when he had too.
the tempo + physical toughness + sharp laser like focus was way too much for our defense. They wanted this win and thats how you do it.
they were snapping the ball like every 10 seconds. thats a rapid fire pistol!
there was a few series were we seemed to not line up right at certain times. couple times we weren’t line up at all and they snapped the ball. That QB recognized it, we were done! All the credit!
5NzQR8 Hey, thanks for the post.Thanks Again. Awesome.
just an observation and no need fo get mad… But are we the only Div 1 team still throwing newspaper in the stands after a touchdown?
Our Offensive Line gave Schroeder ample time to get rid of the ball. If you watched the game closely he had anywhere from a consistent 3 all the way up to 6 seconds to get rid of the football. His decision making is like molasses sometimes and its like he is in quick sand in the pocket because he doesn’t react to pressure well or move unless its an assigned roll out. I understand that coach wants him to sit in the pocket and not jump the gun to run or whatever but I would count myself to see if it was our Oline or him causing the sacks and hurries. From what I seen, Schroeder is slow on his reads, not mobile at all and needs to learn to throw the ball away or step up into the pocket sometimes to elude defenders. It’s like he’ll drop back, look, look, look, stutter, stutter, stutter, then boom end up on the turf. Everybody says he’s tough, smart, blah blah blah but he’s very inconsistent and frustrating to watch sometimes. Granted he threw some nice balls that were dropped by some sure handed guys but in my opinion his reads are way too slow. On paper it may look like he had a decent game somewhat and his accuracy numbers are ok but he’s throwing pretty much dinks and dunks and maybe an occasional downfield throw. I mean its all easy short routes he’s hitting on. Lamar game doesn’t count cause that ain’t real competition. Still no need to sugar coat it at all but Nevada straight whooped our okoles plain and simple. Jefferson pretty much walked through our defense with video game like numbers. Coach Rolo had our number and him putting out Rolo’s candy in an X over our H logo on the field pretty much shows you that he straight up embarrassed us and rubbed it in our faces… I have no hard feelings towards Coach Rolo cause he is going to be one of the best offensive minds in the game today. Offensive line played good enough and gave enough time in the passing game, but the running game is a different story. It seems like they aren’t getting the push or aren’t creating gaps or something cause our backs aren’t able to get loose at all. I don’t know but this game was horrible. Only highlight to me was special teams play by Edwards.
#87 you are right everyone needs to get back to reality.
#90 our defense sucks.what da hell was u watching.
too much bloody excuse if you are a football player you adapt to any style of football. run n shoot,pistol or chows boring pro set style if you are a playa it does’nt matter what style you have just go out dea and ball so stop making excuse and stop saying these are mack player’s. the bottom line is da warriors got their butts kick in their own house and we will see the same result as the nevada game come friday night in provo. mike sellers is always out of positijon and can’t tackle so they need to make some serious personell changes. play charles clay at least he can tackle and put back middle linebacker george daily lyles cause alo was was getting blown out in the middle. i know i know the coaches watches the films and they know better but it ain’t working.
EMBARRASSING, PATHETIC AND THEY SHOULD OF HAD THE MERCY RULE ON SATURDAY.
COUGARS-56 WARRIORS-PUKA.
Hiyah, gang!
laulauhead, LizKauai said she met you at the USC game.
GO WARRIORS!!!
anybody watch the ravens beat the pats by one point? hubby said his heart was racing.
bellichek got in trouble when he touched a ref regarding a field goal.
As much as I hate BYU with a passion, I don’t think we’re ready to beat them. Offensively we’re not even close to being decent. Offensive line does a decent job pass blocking but run blocking is weak. Iosefa and Gregory are good but not great, especially if the OLine doesn’t start to maul people. Scott Harding should just focus on being a receiver, he seems winded at times, thank God Dunnachie is back. Trevor Davis is a gamer. TE’s need to be utilized more. Defensively it seems like Samia is a huge loss. Correa and Hanohano as Seniors are ineffective. Paipai is inconsistent and Beau Yap is the best we got. Linebackers should be a strong point but against Nevada they got manhandled literally. The secondary is at times out of sync. I dunno if its there alignments or what but they sure miss a lot of tackles and get burned or blocked out of the way with ease. Special teams for once seems like the only bright spot on the team thanks to Edwards.
during the first half of the game, I could feel my blood pressure rising and I really thought I was going to have a stroke.
then after the half, I calmed down considerably even tho we were losing.
hey, gang, is a stupid football game worth having a STROKE, for pete’s sake?
GET REAL!!!
that’s all I got to say.
see ya tomorrow morning after ST posts a new blog entry.
hopefully, we will all be mellow.
It’s okay it is what it is and the truth hurts.
Remain calm.
Though . . . Rolo must be having a good laugh. Just who are these UH assistant coaches? Coach Chow was so concerned about their pay before he signed on. They need to produce.
Think Micah O. needs to be more careful.
Remain calm.
Just read the AZ Daily Sun (Flagstaff) & saw that NAU (Northern Arizona U.) beat Montana in their (UM) Homecoming game, 41-31. Saw a mention of one of the recruits who didn’t stay at UH, Ellis Henderson:
Isn’t Ellis related to Ricky? Great to see that NAU finally beat Montana.
honey moon over.
I would like to ask our coaches if they reviewed DC Aranda’s defensive scheme from 2010. Dave seemed to have a good feel for stopping option type offenses.
Is Fajardo better than Colin Kaepernick? Is Stefphon Jefferson better than Vai Taua?
We are going to find out.
In 2010 Hawai`i had Paredes, Silva, Meatoga, Tuipulota on D. Moniz, Salas, Pilares, Pollard and Green on O. They were part of a very good team. We are rebuilding and are are very young.
Post Game Quotes
Nevada at Hawai‘i
Aloha Stadium
Oct. 16, 2010
Hawai‘i Head Coach Greg McMackin
“We just had to coach our way through it and we had to finish (the game). Our defense didn’t play any less (in the second half), they gave 21 points and 293 yards to one of the best offensive teams in the country.”
“We got more penalties than we normally do in the second half, and we’re going to have to take a look at that and some breakdowns on special teams that made it an interesting ball game. You got to make it exciting for people to keep coming back. But we won, and that’s what I’m really pleased about. We’ve been taking these games one at a time, and now we can start focusing on Utah State and keep going.”
“(Nevada) is a team that played a lot of guys and has run a lot of points up on a lot of teams…and we have a good rivalry and I thought their players were very classy. It was a pretty clean football game.”
“Coming into this game I thought our defensive effort against Navy last year was the best but what you did tonight eclipsed that. You had guys making plays, Corey Paredes knocks down a potential touchdown; get three turnovers for the third consecutive game; and on that goal line stand, Vaughn Meatoga manned up…you have to be happy with the physical play of your defense.”
“I give complete credit to coach Dave Aranda (defensive coordinator) and the defensive coaching staff. He had a great game plan and same thing offensively, I thought that Rolo (offensive coordinator Nick Rolovich) had a great game plan and they had to make some adjustments. I just think those two guys are doing a great job, and I’m really proud of my players…they fought their tails off and didn’t quit and kept fighting and finished and that was a big win for us.”
Nevada Head Coach Chris Ault
“We had our chances to win. You can’t give up 10 points (in the 4th quarter). We had our opportunities to win the ball game and didn’t. We go with the onside kick, a great job by our kicking team. Our kicking team was excellent tonight, kept us in the game. If (wide receiver) Tray (Session) makes that catch, I’m pretty comfortable we’re going to score. You gotta make the plays when you get the chance.”
“I thought defensively we played well. The last touchdown (Hawai‘i) got, we’ve got him sacked and we let him get out. He makes a great throw. It was a great play by Moniz, no question about it. I think that might have been the play of the game, because we had some momentum going.”
“It’s a tough loss, because when you have the chance to do something… And we felt like that last drive we were going to put it in the end zone, and we didn’t.”
“We lose 10 points in the second half, and in a game like this against a team like Hawai‘i, you can’t give away points.”
“This is the third time we’ve had a chance to win the game in the fourth quarter out here, and we didn’t…. Hawai‘i played well, they did an outstanding job.”
#165
This is the Montana QB, may be familiar to some people.
http://www.gogriz.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/mckinney_trent00.html
#52
Excuses……It was the defense that got pistol whipped! Offense put up points to win the game but when you give up that much points…….oh boy.
Ala Wai,
Nevada’s pistol offense has been tweaked since. They now run plays every 10-16 seconds. That’s a world of a difference to any defense you can put up.
164 — A Grease meant “Miah”, not “Micha.” A Grease done oops’d hisself.
It may be Aranda who’s having a hearty laugh, too…
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Many thanks to Slugger for hospitality and expert keystone kops driving to find some Korean fuud to take home! Dinner at #1 son’s place was a big success.
We think we have it bad? I was napping thru the Ravens Pats game and awoke to the stadium chanting its feelings about the replacement refs’ call. It was impressive. I think both sides felt the same way and it was all the commentators could do from joining in…
we missed moses samia.
mike edwards is the stuff. he nearly singlehandedly kept us in the game, well, at least for the first half.
to be honest, offensively we need to find some playmakers real quick.
you know, a playmaker is one who is quick.
one who is quicker than the defense.
speed, you know, we need speed and a few who can stretch the defense and catch the ball.
one who can re-invent the YAC,
to be honest, offensively we need to find some playmakers real quick.
you know, a playmaker is one who is quick.
one who is quicker than the defense.
speed, you know, we need speed and a few who can stretch the defense and catch the ball.
one who can re-invent the YAC,
hopefully, chris gant can find the playbook real fast as he shows a lot of that playmaking ability.
hope to see chinedu amadi get up to speed as well. he’s seemed to possess game breaking abilities.
good to see tony grimes make some nice plays.
maybe his re-imergence may allow mike edwards to find some pt on offense. could happen because the coaches will be looking for playmakers especially this morning after having viewed the videos yesterday.
blake muir shows flashes of brilliance.
clarke is showing more consistency.
we missed joey on saturday…his toughness more than anything else.
i can see the re-instated qb rising on the depth charts really fast.
i guess coach really has been patient with his offense and qb having kept them in the game till the end. i suppose getting more reps is a good thing.
we missed samia, true. oh, that and you can’t just rush the QB over and over and over and over again against a read option and expect results anymore than you can stop the triple option by simply tackling the fullback on every play. lord help us against AF.
without checking, but didn’t the offense gain nearly 380 yards?
that coupled with the return yards would have indicated that we moved the ball fairly well.
containing the dive was priority one.
we needed our linebackers to have made more plays. however, we couldn’t plug it up when quite often you could drive a mack truck through some of those holes.
ah, you knew that this was a re-contructing year and it is.
patience…
#188,
Absolutely. People may vent, but don’t lose faith and patience. Our time should come if what the coaches are saying come to fruition.
We had 378 total yards of offense. The huge red flags in hindsight surfaced last week when we weren’t able to capitalize on 3 red zone opportunities.
We had excellent field position thanks to da man Edwards. He put us in great field position time and time again that most teams could only hope for.
The receiving corp needs a hell of a lot of work. I don’t know if its the timing of the routes or what but several times they had 2 guys in the same vicinity. I can’t see how that could be by design.
I was more disappointed in the crowd. But after reading the newspaper about uh losing its last 9 national tv games i can see why. Last nights loss was bad but call me a nut i still.believe in this team. The best way to get national respect is to play WELL on national tv and win.
lets say that the ball needs to arrive a bit quicker.
It’s a process!Its going to take a yr or two!!!
BYU 21 HAWAII 24
Didn’t think that guy was effective anyways. Wasn’t that the [everybody was] “Kung Fu” and football guy? Rolo’, though, they obviously should’ve kept. Will never get him back now.
Would love to read an in-depth of current UH assistant coaches. Star-Advertiser do this, yet?
Hate procrastinating. Is why a Grease was up doing work so late 🙁 . Good night. [nemasu . . . zzzzzzzzzzzzzz . . .]
A Grease might consider never wanting a Rolo back here in any capacity.
When an ‘adult’ trashes the *H* on his former team’s football field…that’s grounds for charging him with juvenile delinquency. I thought you had more class than that, Rolo.
Seriously. I hope you are still lurking this blog. I wouldn’t hire you back to scoop dog crap off of the practice field! You and Ault make a fine pair of Aces in Reno town.
thRi5o Wow, great blog article. Awesome.
Did anyone see why Chris Demarest was giving the reno coaches the finger? He was really PO’d?
UH vs Bywhooo
10 – 41 SAWARRIOR
17 – 42 HiFlyer
24 – 17 RedZone
24 – 21 Rodney
27 – 13 Bugaz
35 – 17 Pomai
38 – 17 wafan
48 – 10 IWWTHM
56 – 10 Kekoa
56 – 14 d1shima
Anyone? Anyone?
200.
Pomai ~ One can only guess that Chris was upset about how the Reno coaches continued to pound with all their horses in the game.
Remember during the ‘Colt’ years how JJ pulled him out as early as the half? A total of 6 qtrs that he could have rolled up his numbers with.
That’s why there are certain people who should never be allowed to coach. They use their teams to seek vengence on others.
Kekoa this was during the first half, he was standing by the special team as they were huddled on the sideline then all of a sudden he raced about ten yard on the field an started giving the finger to the reno coaches for some thing he was fit to be tied. LOL
Pomai
28-27 LizKauai
Pomai ~ Oh that’s just his way of telling the Reno coaches that HE is #1.
That would be a good question to ask at the Na Koa Luncheon today.
Pomai: 31-21 (unfortunately we are going to be 1 and 3). 2nd half of the season I look for some improvement.
Really?………the finger? That should never be considered acceptable behavior.
A lot of people wanted Rolo to stay and coach here at UH. A lot of people were even happy for him that he did well Saturday night against the Warriors. But, I for one feel insulted at what he did by X-ing out our H for Hawaii. Our former QB and offensive coordinator did not have to do that. He did not show any class by doing that. When people do things like that they show their true colors. What’s in their heart. Once you do something like this you can’t take it back. I for one wouldn’t want him back. Rolo, “what goes around comes around.”
Good morning, gang!
GO WARRIORS!!!
When did he do the X? Is it on video?
Chill out people, this is only the 3rd game under Chow’s system. I hate to break it to you but it’s gonna get alot worse as the season progresses. This is NOT a good team this year. I see several more beatdowns coming for this team. BYU, Boise St, & Fresneck are the ones that stick out the most. Don’t think of it as an embarrassment, think of it as “Tough Love”. We’re in the MWC now and not the WAC (Weak Azz Conference). This team need to know and understand what their gonna be up against every week and you WILL see more scores like Saturday night. It’s gonna take at least a whole season for this team to fully buy into Chow’s system so we all need to chill out and give it time, just saying.
He did it after the game. This can be read in Sunday’s Sports section. One of the Advertiser reporters wrote about it. Very disrespecful. You don’t do this even in jest. This is Our House. Just like someone pissing or taking a dump at your front door.
Chow will need to do some heavy recruiting on the defensive line. We already got some guys that are ineligible to play til next year though.
I can take the loss/losses but you don’t do things like that. I would have expected a lot more class from Rolo. I don’t teach my kids to do things like that. That’s not good sportmanship.
About changing from the R& S to the pro-style offense (apparently different from the pro-set offense) … someone here has posted that it should be easy for players to change from one to the other.
I don’t think so. I am not a football player nor am I a coach, but I have talked to them and they all agree, it is not easy to change from one to the other and it will take time. It may or may not be successful in that not many high schools or even many colleges attempt the pro-style offense.
Most of the current team are R & S trained and experienced. They had 3 months of practice (Mar, Apr, May); then August practice. That’s 4 months to change from what was… to what Chow wants.
I know there must be some ex-football players and coaches on here. Please jump in and talk about what is involved to changing from R & S to a pro-style offense.
Petty crap….lets go play the next one better….Go Warriors
I dunno why everbodys panties getting all riled up in a bunch for. I interpet Rolo as an emotional, fierce comptitier and someone who wants to win badlly. What he did is perfectly fine and within boundries of the game. The guy wants to win, is pouring everything he has to win. Its emotional. Im sure this win was extremely satisfying to him and his compadres. Yes, a little bit of show em up. so what?!? Thats whats makes rivalries. Thats what makes college athelitics fun. Its all in good fun, nobody got hurt with the “X” except for some sensitive peoples feelings.
Enjoy Rolo, you deserve it. but we’re coming back for your arse next year! put a big X on that date!
About the pro-style offense … I am told there are many versions of it. I have no idea what Coach Chow’s version is.
I am told that the west coast offense is one version. Bill Walsh was the father of the w.c. offense. Husband and I had the pleasure of having 49er season tickets for 20 years (during the Golden Years of Montana, Clark, Rice, etc.) I never could figure out the w.c. offense, but he knows it by heart.
westwind got a link to that?
UH vs Bywhooo
10 – 41 SAWARRIOR
17 – 42 HiFlyer
21 – 31 3-Prong
24 – 17 RedZone
24 – 21 Rodney
27 – 13 Bugaz
28 – 27 LizKauai
35 – 17 Pomai
38 – 17 wafan
48 – 10 IWWTHM
56 – 10 Kekoa
56 – 14 d1shima
Now this is what our mascot should look like!
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a58/pomai44/533414_10151202394035715_1433626683_n_zps584420bd.jpg
I think it is very difficult to go to the West Coast offense– remember that Von Appen tried it and failed.
However, it is much easier to go to the Run and Shoot– we saw it done in one year with a bowl season and win over a Pac 12 team. We also see several teams converting to the spread and shotgun even with a no huddle and new coaches– Fresno State and Ohio State, Utah State, and several others are doing very well in transition. Seems it is easier to pick up the spread offense and the shotgun than to pick up the West Coast.
They might need to switch to a 3-4 defense.
Rolo, that was not a classy move on your part. Hawaii fans will remember that. From beloved son to Ault Jr in my book.
I just finished reading Wikipedia’s explanation of the west coast offense. I also read other WCO explanations, including why it seems to be more for the NFL and simply does not work often at the college level. For example, the QB has to read quick, decide quick, throw quick, and be accurate. The QB’ steps (timing) is critical and has to be in sync with his receivers. The emphasis is on short passes (it’s not a running game). For years Joe Montana was the key to the 49ers successful west coast offense.
After 3 games, I can’t tell if the WCO (or some version of it) is what Norm Chow is trying to bring to Hawaii.