Allen-Jones seeks comeback

Cameron Allen-Jones is attempting a comeback.

Allen-Jones missed the entire 2009 season after suffering severe burns in a kitchen accident. Allen-Jones still needs NCAA clearance for the missed time.

If Allen-Jones is allowed back, he would provide a boost at defensive end. During his UH career, he also has practiced as an offensive lineman and perimeter blocker (re: tight end). There once was talk that he could be used as a big back.

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With UH volleyball matches regularly exceeding Avatar-like lengths, this weekend’s exhibitions against Alberta would have provided a chance to see the impact of shorter matches. Canadian schools, such as Alberta, play by the international rules of 25-point sets. Tonight’s exhibition will be played to 30.

Canadian teams also allow its players five seasons to play. That was something the NCAA had explored. A straight five seasons would eliminate redshirt years and medical hardships. In turn, coaches would not have to debate whether to hold out freshmen in the possibility of redshirting them. It seems to be an easier system, and it would cut down on paperwork and appeals.

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At last week’s volleyball match, AD Jim Donovan and Bill Hinshaw were mapping out what appeared to be athletic facility plans. This was the best I could do at being a stalkerazzi:




  1. bstunna2002 February 12, 2010 9:26 am


  2. bstunna2002 February 12, 2010 9:26 am


  3. bstunna2002 February 12, 2010 9:27 am


  4. bstunna2002 February 12, 2010 9:27 am

    woohoo,Gold,Silver and Bronze

  5. Stephen Tsai February 12, 2010 9:31 am

    They need a platinum category.

  6. Stephen Tsai February 12, 2010 9:33 am

    I think the Olympics needs to do some shifting.
    Basketball and volleyball should be in the Winter Games.

  7. Bulla February 12, 2010 9:36 am

    good idea, spread the wealth by adding those 2 to the winter games

  8. Bulla February 12, 2010 9:37 am

    Allen-Jones could be a great addition to shore up the DL, and contribute immediately. oh wait, we have to get NCAA clearance……dum dee dum dee, dum dee dum, ………..did i grow hair yet? haha šŸ™‚

  9. Stretch February 12, 2010 9:37 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!

    Chawan – your orange sweatshirt has NOTHING on this guy… Tell Lefty to “do it”!!

  10. bstunna2002 February 12, 2010 9:39 am

    Darn I forgot about platinum…

  11. Stephen Tsai February 12, 2010 9:41 am

    Why is gold more precious than silver, anyway?
    Silver looks nicer.
    And silver is more practical.

  12. al February 12, 2010 9:44 am

    gold vs silver,

    perhaps because “it is written.”

  13. (Jesse) James February 12, 2010 9:46 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!!!!!

    Dang, just missed top ten….

    Stretch…ha ha ha…yeah, lefty should do it….

    Okay…gotta run for now….

  14. jm2375 February 12, 2010 9:48 am

    Good morning Tsai-kos!

    Hope everyone is staying dry.

    Kazz – not sure, but I thought I heard it was a car fire on Dole St and East-West Rd.

    Fires at UH evoke very painful memories for me. It’s been 3 1/2 years since the Lab School fire and there are no plans for a new building.

  15. bstunna2002 February 12, 2010 9:48 am

    Unless your talking White gold then thats’s nicer than silver….but alas platinum beats them all…

  16. Stephen Tsai February 12, 2010 9:52 am

    I do know that new friends are silver and old friends are gold.

  17. Stephen Tsai February 12, 2010 9:53 am

    Or is it the other way around.
    Wait, gotta sing the song: Make new friends, but keep the old, one is silver the other gold….

  18. Richie February 12, 2010 9:56 am

    I saw Ferd Lewis’ article about Jim Donovan’s call to someone in the Pac 10 to inquire about “potential opportunities” for UH. Ferd does not mention in his article that all discussions have focused on Utah and either Colorado or BYU as schools that are being looked at as potential additions to the Pac 10. I guess we have to do something if the rumors are true about Boise and certain other WAC schools exploring a move to the MWC.

  19. SteveM February 12, 2010 9:56 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Good luck to Cameron Allen-Jones!

  20. Stephen Tsai February 12, 2010 9:56 am

    I’m watching “Wife Swap,” the reality show where two very different women switch families for two weeks, and i’m thinking that would be an interesting concept in sports.
    Kobe to the New Jersey Nets.
    McMackin to Boise State.
    Kellen Moore and Bryant Moniz switching teams.
    Charlie Wade as Rainbow Wahine volleyball coach …. oh, wait, that was for the “Future Game.”

  21. Stephen Tsai February 12, 2010 9:58 am

    Yeah, that was interesting of Donovan to call the Pac-10.
    Sort of like when I called the New York Times …

  22. koakane February 12, 2010 9:59 am

    good furlough and aloha friday tsaiko country. may this be the beginning of a supa weekend for you.

    come’on wahines sball team go and pound out some hits and win today’s game. “stay away from the high one’s” aka league of our own movie. may the road for the men’s bball team be kind to them.

    the canadaian rule of playing 5 is a good one. NCAA is opposed to it aka no clue at all.

  23. Slugger February 12, 2010 10:10 am

    Good luck to Cameron Allen-Jones in getting past the NCAA review.

    Happy Aloha Friday, all!

  24. SteveM February 12, 2010 10:11 am

    RE: #11

    ST — I have wondered something similar too, back in my early days in the service when we were taught to recognize officer collar insignia. Silver was higher than gold. For example, and O-1 has a single gold bar and a O-2 a single silver bar. A major/Lt. Cmdr is a gold oak leaf while a Lt. Col./Commander is a silver oak leaf. Never knew the rationale.

  25. madeinhawaii February 12, 2010 10:11 am


    Allen-Jones could be a great addition to shore up the DL, and contribute immediately. oh wait, we have to get NCAA clearance……dum dee dum dee, dum dee dum, ………..did i grow hair yet? haha šŸ™‚

    Should you find out.. just don’t tell us where!

    But it’s good to know the C Allen-Jones has recovered from his burns. Recovered enough to want to get on the field again. Hope he gets his clearance, and I hope he’ s in shape. Maybe he and the beast can be roomies and jun-ken-po to see who gets to take the head off of whom, eh? Unless he becomes a converted RB? Then never mind the jun-ken-po.. better he play hide-n-seek from the Beast.

  26. Stephen Tsai February 12, 2010 10:20 am

    Did you see the rule proposal about excessive celebrations? If a player starts styling at the 20 en route to the end zone, the ball is moved to the 22.

  27. NorthShoreFan February 12, 2010 10:29 am

    Bulla…got to get the Warrior “H” stenciled on the doors of the Warrior Mobile!…Then when on the roads we can get out of the way!

  28. Paka February 12, 2010 10:36 am

    re: 24(Officers rank rational)

    It’s because back in the old days, officers wore gold braid in their shoulders and the silver insignia distinguished between the higher rank.
    For example, majors wore gold epaulets on both shoulders while Lt. Col. had a silver oak leave on top of the epaulet to distinguish between the two.

  29. d1島 February 12, 2010 10:37 am

    Good Luck to Cameron Allen-Jones.

  30. d1島 February 12, 2010 10:39 am


    Congrats on the new wheels!

    As far as stencils, I recall a fine artist who lives on the ceded lands down the road from you who painted her entire garage in Warrior motif!

  31. NorthShoreFan February 12, 2010 10:44 am

    ST..saw the article on the new rules regarding “excessive celebration”. Would like to know if the player is about to score and he just puts the ball in the air without taunting the opposing player, would that be “excessive”? I can agree with some of the actions being “excessive” but “excessive” to one may not be to another. Some penalties the Warriors got for “unsportsman like” seem to have been “excessive” officiating to me.

  32. NorthShoreFan February 12, 2010 10:46 am

    Bulla..maybe can fly one Warrior flag in da yard if you no get busted under the new law they thinking about!

  33. SteveM February 12, 2010 10:47 am

    Paka — Thank you for the explanation (#28) and welcome to the blog!

    If you reside outside of Hawaii, please tell me the city.

    It’s been a while since I posed an <b<Ask the Blog question. Usually do it after 2100. But I’ve always received viable answers! Thank you!

  34. NorthShoreFan February 12, 2010 10:52 am

    Allen-Jones making a comeback from burns?!! WOW! talk about a Warrior!
    Like Pride says..”Warrior is an Attitude”!
    GOOD LUCK CAMERON! Will be pulling for you!

  35. bb February 12, 2010 10:52 am

    NFL=No Fun League


  36. Kazz February 12, 2010 10:56 am

    Stephen Tsai:

    February 12th, 2010 at 9:58 am
    Yeah, that was interesting of Donovan to call the Pac-10.
    Sort of like when I called the New York Times …

    Or like the time I tried to ask a cheerleader to junior high prom? šŸ˜Æ

  37. Paka February 12, 2010 10:56 am

    re: 33
    Dallas, Texas

  38. BG February 12, 2010 10:56 am

    Aloha Tsaikos!

    That picture of Mike Wilton sure makes him look 10 yrs younger. Things were pretty grim for him during his last couple of years. Retirement can be so guuuuuud. Best wishes for him.

  39. Bulla February 12, 2010 11:02 am

    you guys are killing me.

    MIH, bruddah, bald by choice…..last time i checked

    NSF, need to hang one big one by my front gate, IMUA WARRIORS

    d1, gonna keep it quiet this season, but 2011 gonna be ‘Just Nutz’ for us….. forget logo, we talking airbrush artistry…………oh yeah…………

    i am trying to convince Lyn i need a tatoo on my head to help ‘promote’ the Warriors…..uhmmmmmm, can we say that this piece of legislation has not made it out of committee yet?

  40. Bulla February 12, 2010 11:04 am

    #25 MIH,

    whew, that would be nice i think….right now ryan is johnny appleseed, walking everywhere, training, going to classes and meetings….just getting the system down.

    he does like coach heff and his crew, said they’re all ‘good guyz’ and a few have taken a liking to the little fellow.

    with my 20 qt pot, i’ve been cooking some vittles for the crew….gotta love home delivery included also, haha šŸ™‚

    life is good, GO WARRIORS šŸ™‚

  41. LizKauai m/ February 12, 2010 11:07 am

    Good Luck to Cameron Allen-Jones!

    I think Alan Hackbarth should be our mascot.

    We be DANCIN in the stadium!!!


  42. Bulla February 12, 2010 11:08 am

    bb, like that :0)

  43. A-House February 12, 2010 11:22 am

    Paka & SteveM:

    I neva worry about gold or silver – what eva they gave me, I putum on!!

  44. A-House February 12, 2010 11:27 am

    New UH football mascot:

    OK, Tsaikos, put on da helmet and start tinking about what the new one should be.

    No can be a wahine – addawise adda team goin laugh – but, a wahine inside a “custome” might work? Must be a UH student! including the community colleges – where is da love?

    BTW, who is responsible for designating a football mascot? or, must the mascot be universal – for all sports?

  45. A-House February 12, 2010 11:28 am

    eh, Paka, you wen go and become one SMU fan now that June Jones stay dare?

  46. Pride. February 12, 2010 11:36 am

    koon hee fat boy.

  47. Lolo February 12, 2010 11:37 am

    Howzit Paka!!!

  48. Pride. February 12, 2010 11:39 am

    Always wanted to be a tiger.

    How come my mom made me into a RAT.

    I can growl like a tiger.

  49. Bulla February 12, 2010 11:41 am


    you can definitely grooooooooooooowwwwl, should’ve named you tony…..

    but there are some Tsaikos that can definitely hoooooooooooooowlll, full moon not required, haha

  50. Kazz February 12, 2010 11:42 am


    A mascot SHOULD be universal. Bad enough all the men’s sports have different names with the exception of football, volleyball, and golf as they are all “Warriors”.

    Beating a DEAD horse again, but I like that all the women are “Rainbow Wahine” nothing wrong with that and let’s keep that tradition going. “Warriors” should be for all the men.

    Let’s get a student in a foam costume that is more current and more aggressive looking for ALL home games for basketball, football, and volleyball. A Warrior with an ikaika helmet and a spear would do just fine on the sides and in the stands rooting for the Wahine and the Warriors of all sports.

  51. A-House February 12, 2010 11:47 am

    JD and PAC 10 phone call:

    I like dat! I like dat! because it shows leadership and vision even if plenty people will laugh and say da world will end before dat PAC 10 goin ask UH. Maybe so, but it does not hurt to ask.

    OK, all you analytical guys/gals – make a list of all the advantages and disadvantages of why PAC 10 should invite UH to join da conference and let’s see the results. No forget to calculate air fare and transfers and “time” from West Coast to Utah, Colorado, and BYU. It may be cheaper and faster to fly to Hawaii. No forget to consider Hawaii residents who are still loyal to the college they attended who will now purchase tickets to watch their team play at Aloha Stadium. or, attend to respresent the Warriors!!!

    JD wen already ask HVB and hotel industry to give input – hey, JD, no forget da airlines who fly between West Coast and Hawaii.

    Alaska and Hawaiian would be good out of the PNW – both Washington and Oregon schools. Hawaiian lut of LA and Las Vegas and direct flights to Phoenix for Arizona and Arizona St.

    Alsaka Airlines has direct flight to Maui and Kauai for parents, friends, etc who want to attend a game and vacation during same trip. Hawaiian also has connections to Kauai and Maui.

    Also, Sugar Bowl showed that Hawaii fans will attend games on the mainland; yea, I know that the Sugar Bowl was speical, but I bet if UH was in the PAC 10, a lot of Hawaii fans will show up at any site to watch.
    How many fans from Washington or Oregon or Arizona show up at USC or UCLA or Cal or Stanford to cheer their team? Additional income from tickets and refreshments!

    Put on the thinking cap! Be creative! Think outside the box! This could result in a totally new revenue source for the State and outer islands. Oh yea, no forget Legislatvie support.

    I would not count UH out just yet!

  52. Kazz February 12, 2010 11:51 am

    Weather is holding up in East Oahu right now. Not sure what it’s gonna look like come first pitch at 5pm and then again at 7, but it SHOULDN’T be as bad as last night.

  53. A-House February 12, 2010 11:54 am


    ah, you see, I wen alreday forget what I was going to add – oh, yea, I rememba now –

    how will this affect recruiting for UH – will the high profile local athletes stay and play for the home team if UH is a PAC 10 member? if BCS exposure was a big thing, now no have to worry, eh?

    Will this affect West Coast athletes to choose Hawaii knowing that they are in the PAC 10 and every other year, they get to go home and play before family and friends?

  54. A-House February 12, 2010 11:58 am


    I’m with you on the Warriors for all men and Rainbow Wahines for the women.

    Who do we talk to? Start with Jim D.

    Mrs A-House says we will attend the UH-Stanford softball game on Saturday! Win or lose, just cheer!!!

  55. A-House February 12, 2010 11:59 am


    Is Allen-Jones medically cleared for football?

    No sense try if not cleared.

  56. A-House February 12, 2010 12:01 pm


    Me, dragon with little flame and puffs of smoke!

  57. midnight February 12, 2010 12:02 pm

    Happy Snowday to all the wonderful Tsaikos!

    After yesterday’s record day of snowfall in Dallas – 9.4 inches, naturally Arlington received a commensurate proportion – 6 inches or more. We contributed spiritually to the Warrior Spirit by erecting an appropriate symbol. A Warrior Snowman.

    Hi Paka! Barbara and I just moved to Arlington. Our email is: wongkkt at hotmail dot com. Maybe we can connect…..

    Love to all…midnight and Barbara

  58. NorthShoreFan February 12, 2010 12:06 pm

    A-House/Kazz..this thing about the UH mascot has been stuck in my craw for a while. What do we have here? We got Raiinbow Wahine, Warriors, Rainbow Baseball, Rainbow Softball, Volleyballetc..
    Which is it? Warriors or Rainbows or Rainbow Warriors?
    How do we select a mascot when we don’t know what name we use?
    How do we create a mascot like a Rainbow? A Warrior can be potrayed. I like the Warrior minus the marshmellow outfit. Vili comes close but does he represent a Rainbow?
    I stay nutz already!
    Personal preference…Warrior minus the marshmellow outfit. We had a good one before. He was with the cape and spear, helmut. Not sure what happened to the guy..probably graduated…LOL!

  59. midnight February 12, 2010 12:16 pm

    Hey Pride,

    I’m a Rat too! Fire Rat! Barbara is a Wood Monkey. I don’t place much importance in the Chinese zodiac, but it took many years before I finally found Barbara and we are happy. You know my thoughts about this, and destiny. I am hopeful that your wait will be shorter than mine.

    Aloha brudda!

  60. Pride. February 12, 2010 12:17 pm

    We should play an exhibition football game in Shanghai. Of course, don’t know who would pay for it.

    Have friends who frequent Shanghai on business who could start tossing the idea around. Apparently Shanghai, a population of about 20 million, will soon be the new Japan. They will soon be buying, learning and soaking up Hawaiian music and everything else Hawaiian. There are parties that would like to begin bringing over Hawaiian entertainers and halaus, the same way that Japan has done over the past thirty years. The state needs to jump on the opportunities. Our biggest export in ten years will be Hawaiian music and hula to the 20 million people in Shanghai. We should have the Hawaii football program tag along and create a fan base in the area. First, we will need to introduce the game to just a few people, then start doing clinics. If we can get a few hundred thousand people to watch recordings of the games then perhaps that could go far in establishing a foothold on that television market. With that market in hand, we would then make ourselves more marketable to the PAC-10. Perhaps we could partnership with the East-West Center, Shidler Business School, UHAD, and perhaps the Warrior Football Alumni. Everyone could benefit. East-West can continue building relations, Business school can become the forerunner to info sharing between east and west commerce. Football program can gain a larger market for their sports as well as possibly establish a recruiting foothold. Football alumni can hold clinics and be ambassadors for the sport. Same can be done in New Zealand, Austrailia, Japan.

    Might take awhile for football to catch on in these countries, but when it does, it’s better to be at the forefront, rather than hanging on to the tail. If football doesn’t catch on, then at least we will probably learn from the experience.

    Am told that the Hawaiian music, hula stuff is a done deal though. Can you imagine, 20 million consumers, in one city?

  61. Pomai February 12, 2010 12:23 pm

    Ok now on to the mascot — sorry Kazz IMHO all teams should be Warriors, if you go back into the history there where Wahine’s that fought alongside of the Kane’s.

    Hold tryouts, with the student who wins it gets a scholarship for as long as he is the mascot, and lets not kid around with any costume get a body builder who looks the part.

  62. Kazz February 12, 2010 12:24 pm


    This is a tourney right now. The only “set” matches are for tonight vs Texas A&M CC at 5pm and again at 7pm vs #10 Stanford. Both games on K-5 if no can come.

    On Saturday the games for softball start at 10AM. Not sure where Na Wahine will play. Depends on how they do tonight. If we can knock out A&M CC and get past Stanford the Wahine will play the 12pm game on Saturday and if they win that they play at 4pm AGAIN on Saturday. This is the BEST case scenario for the Wahine.

    Worst case, we lose either lose one game tonight or both and then we play at 10am tomorrow and if they lose that they play at 2pm tomorrow.

  63. NorthShoreFan February 12, 2010 12:31 pm

    Warriors and Wahine Warriors..sound good to me…

  64. NorthShoreFan February 12, 2010 12:34 pm

    Complex going be busy tomorrow den?..Softball and Alumni game…

  65. oldie February 12, 2010 12:34 pm


    PAC-10 is a long shot, but gotta try. If a big name wants in, UH’s chances are slim.

    As far as recruiting goes, Pac-10 wouldn’t want to lose the pipeline they now enjoy. I believe Hawaii being part of Pac-10 would actually be a plus for the other Pac-10 schools.

    Recruits who want to stay home will continue to do so. Those who decide to leave would look favorably on the Pac-10 schools since it would guarantee that they would play at least twice in four years at Aloha Stadium. There would be fewer recruits going to BYU, TT, Tennessee, etc.

  66. SteveM February 12, 2010 12:35 pm

    Paka — thanks. I’ll add you to the Texas listing. I see one of our favorite bloggers, midnight, has already sent you contact info in #57. šŸ™‚

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  67. d1島 February 12, 2010 12:45 pm

    Congratulations Pat Hamamoto, Principal, St. Louis School. Let’s Go Saints!

  68. NorthShoreFan February 12, 2010 12:54 pm

    Reaches the NorthShore!…

  69. Paka February 12, 2010 1:02 pm

    RE: 45
    I work for SMU

  70. Paka February 12, 2010 1:02 pm

    re: 45
    And work for June

  71. Garret February 12, 2010 1:03 pm

    Best wishes to Cameron Allen-Jones…coming back from his burns and all that time away from football is not going to be easy, and that isn’t even taking into account his need for speedy NCAA approval. But he has a chance and I’m sure he’ll work hard to come back.

  72. Garret February 12, 2010 1:04 pm

    Welcome to the blog Paka. I think you are the first blogger here who is new to the blog and works for JJ. Did you work for UH before?

  73. jm2375 February 12, 2010 1:05 pm

    SteveM – #66 – you gotta add midnight to the TX list. šŸ™‚

  74. Pomai February 12, 2010 1:06 pm

    Just read all the comments on Ferd’s article, boy there are a lot of “Glass is half empty” people out there.

  75. Garret February 12, 2010 1:07 pm

    It would have been nice if the Asian market had been established for UH earlier. The planning to get into Japan, Shanghai, etc., would take awhile and exhibition games are a great idea. Trouble is, the Pac-10 needs to decide which teams to invite in a year to get things ready for their next TV deal, so UH would have to everything done in less than a year. So, I do not see how the Asian market that BC talks about can be relevant at all to UH’s Pac-10 chances.

  76. rage777 February 12, 2010 1:07 pm


    You are really bad at being a stalker. You should have commandeered one of the overhead cameras and zoomed in.

    I agree with Liz, rubberman should be the mascot (or somebody like him). I remember at the volleyball games during timeouts where the players on both sides would turn around and watch him. People would go wild just to watch him dance.

  77. Paka February 12, 2010 1:08 pm

    re: 72
    yes, I played there and worked for June. I followed him to SMU.

  78. Pride. February 12, 2010 1:09 pm

    Guava ‘s back.

  79. Pakegolf February 12, 2010 1:09 pm

    Probably considered, but getting in the PAC10 would mean saving on trips to LTech, Fresno and other out of the way schools and could be offered to subsidize travel since most PAC10 schools are near to major airports where Hawaiian flies to.

  80. NorthShoreFan February 12, 2010 1:11 pm

    Aloha Paka, like to lift weights?

  81. BSTUNNA2002 February 12, 2010 1:11 pm

    Paka’s not new to the blog and he actually worked at UH before going to SMU with Coach Jones, he’s Lopaka Ornellas the Video guy

  82. Pride. February 12, 2010 1:12 pm


    February 12th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
    Hey Pride,

    I’m a Rat too! Fire Rat! Barbara is a Wood Monkey. I don’t place much importance in the Chinese zodiac, but it took many years before I finally found Barbara and we are happy. You know my thoughts about this, and destiny. I am hopeful that your wait will be shorter than mine.

    Aloha brudda!

    There’s no rush midnight. Hope all goes well for you both in Texas. Hope your brother is doing well also.

  83. Kazz (blkberry_storm) February 12, 2010 1:14 pm

    Lower campus will be a buzz with action. Softball, baseball and then volleyball to end the night.

    I gonna die tomorrow.

    But, can’t think of a better way to exhaust myself in a manner that is “family-friendly! šŸ˜†

    Ok.. I’ve said too much.. šŸ˜†

  84. Paka February 12, 2010 1:15 pm

    I do work out quite a bit but during the season I tend to get out of shape because of my work schedule.

  85. Da Punchbowl Kid February 12, 2010 1:17 pm

    Welcome back Guava, oops, I mean Paka… šŸ˜‰

  86. Stephen Tsai February 12, 2010 1:17 pm

    Pat Hamamoto is Exhibit A as to why I don’t attend retirement parties.
    Nobody ever really retires.
    A couple of years ago, we said goodbye to Jerry Burris. Speeches. Wah, wah, wah.
    He comes back as a consultant/blogger, I think. Then they give him a cubicle/room stuffed with his books and other junk. Great guy and all, but dammit, that was the sports department’s potluck room.
    And then they cleared him out, and moved in Wayne Harada’s, uh, accumulation.
    A couple of years ago, a sort of pleasant guy named Jay Higa says he’s going to leave us. No plans, he says. Just time to go. Doesn’t even want a severance package. So in the midst of the teary farewells, I tell him: If you’re going to Brand X, we will hunt you down and harm you with this pen. Click, click. No, no, no, he assures us. No plans at all. Guess where he ends up a week later. Click, click.
    So, congrats, Ms. Hamamoto on the new job.

  87. Da Punchbowl Kid February 12, 2010 1:17 pm

    Hows things at SMU?

    Great to have you on the blog…

  88. Paka February 12, 2010 1:18 pm

    re: 85
    I think you’re mistaking me for someone else. I don’t know who Guava is. But BSTUNNA2002 guessed right, that’s me.

  89. Da Punchbowl Kid February 12, 2010 1:20 pm


    Make sure ya get stalkerazzi pics when ya do the Higa “job”. šŸ˜†

  90. Da Punchbowl Kid February 12, 2010 1:21 pm

    Nice to have you here in any case. Did Dallas get much snow these last couple of days?

  91. Paka February 12, 2010 1:22 pm

    re: 87
    SMU has been fun so far, and last year was very satisfying.

  92. Stephen Tsai February 12, 2010 1:23 pm

    Yep, to double check, I did call. And it Paka is back.
    Paka and June are going to check out the NBA rookie game tonight.

  93. Da Punchbowl Kid February 12, 2010 1:23 pm

    I say, if Bulla gets the “H” tat on the ole noggin, we should make him an honorary mascot.

    No wait… On second thought it might not be safe to allow him on the field whrn the Beast is playing!

  94. Pomai February 12, 2010 1:24 pm

    Miss home Paka? I know this is the Warrior Beat and some don’t want to hear anything about JJ and his crew, but there are some of us here who do, so keep us posted on what’s up your way.

  95. Paka February 12, 2010 1:25 pm

    Yeah, it was crazy, it snowed all day yesterday so everything is covered in snow. I think someone said it’s the most snowfall Dallas has ever experienced. Kind of neat to see that.

  96. Da Punchbowl Kid February 12, 2010 1:25 pm

    I just gotta say it… Kazz is truly a fan’s fan. Nuff said. šŸ˜‰

  97. Da Punchbowl Kid February 12, 2010 1:27 pm

    Tell Coach Jones that we Tsaikos said for you and him to stay warm! Take care Paka!

    Okay.. back to work… (*mutters like Mutley the dog under his breath)

  98. Paka February 12, 2010 1:28 pm

    Yeah, we all miss home. I do most of all since I’m actually from there. I miss surfing which is impossible to do here in Dallas. We all still root for the Warriors as well. I try to read the blog every now and then.

  99. Garret February 12, 2010 1:29 pm

    I don’t want to get into the whole issue I posted about in yesterday’s blog about TV revenue, but I do note that many posters want the big-budget schools to be “fair” to the non-AQ schools. I should point out that the TV networks do not care about fairness–all they care about is how many people will watch their games. Sadly, it is a fact that the many more people will watch games from the SEC, Big 12, Big 10, and Pac-10 than the MAC, Sun Belt, C-USA, WAC, and MWC. That is why the SEC gets $3 billion, the Big 10 gets *more* than the SEC, and the WAC gets $1 million.

    Where do you think that the BCS bowls get their money? A *lot* of it is from TV (ABC/ESPN outbid Fox in the recent round) and if too many lesser-known schools got into BCS bowls the TV money would decrease pretty quickly…especially since all the games with non-AQ teams are in the bottom 10 in BCS bowl rating history.

    The setup that Pomai and other wish for where the NCAA takes control and divides the TV money among all conferences is what used to be the setup…until the courts ruled that it was illegal. That set the conferences free to make their own TV deals, and with the crazy money being earned right now there is no parity anymore. The difference in TV money used to be 2:1 but now it is 17:1…

    The BCS bowl system gave $22.5 million this year to the non-AQ conferences, *far* more than they would have gotten if they formed their own bowls and tried to get their own TV contracts. Even a normal $18 million year is far more than the non-AQ conferences could get if they formed their own bowls. That is many times more than what ALL the non-AQ conferences combined get from their TV deals for the entire regular season.

    The non-AQ teams also benefit from the big TV contracts by the $1 million paydays for playing at SEC and Big 10 stadiums. That is what keeps much of the Sun Belt, MAC, and teams like SJSU and La Tech afloat. If the Big 12 and Pac-10 get big TV contracts also, then the demand will increase and the price will go up well past $1 million.

    The majority of D-IA teams are in AQ conferences. If they add the MWC in the next round (and there is a provision in the BCS contract that specifically allows adding another conference), then they will have a significant majority.

    UH has to make sure that it gets into a better situation in the conference shuffle, hopefully as a MWC/WAC combination after a few teams that didn’t want UH (like Utah) leave the MWC. Then the MWC/WAC combination need to win nonconference games and earn their way into AQ status. The current MWC appears to have passed the requirements to become an AQ conference in the next round…but if they are raided, then they might lose that chance.

  100. Garret February 12, 2010 1:30 pm

    The difference between BCS payouts for AQ conferences and non-AQ conferences is less than $2 million per team, close to $1 million. The difference in budgets between UH and the biggest budget schools is getting to be around $100 million…splitting the bowl money would do nothing for that gap.

  101. NorthShoreFan February 12, 2010 1:32 pm

    Paka .. when you ready to come back to the aina..we be safe and keep warm ova deya..some of them cowboys kinda nutz…

  102. Garret February 12, 2010 1:32 pm

    Hope the snow the past few days isn’t too bad for you Paka.

  103. Old Diver February 12, 2010 1:35 pm

    While I don’t think Pac-10 is even a long shot I hope this is considered. With so many ex-Hawaii residents on the west coast I’m thinking attendance in all sports that include Hawaii on the west coast would increase. I think it was the UNLV coach who commented that Hawaii people are funny in that even if they are UNLV alumni and Nevada residents they will come to the game and cheer for Hawaii.

  104. Paka February 12, 2010 1:35 pm

    Paniolo’s are the real cowboys. I haven’t met too many real ones since I’ve been here(unless you’re talking about the Dallas Cowboys)

    The snow was actually fun for me. I went walking around yesterday and sat by my window and watched it fall all night. Seems weird but I’ve never seen it fall before.

    Got to go check out the NBA game. I’ll try to check in with you guys later. Aloha

  105. Pride. February 12, 2010 1:40 pm

    Paka, are you related to a nuclear engineer from Pearl Harbor with the same last name who is an incredible guitarist?

  106. G (China) February 12, 2010 1:43 pm

    Re: Population

    China is known to have super populated cities.

    Shanghai: 28 M
    Beijing: 25 M
    Chongqing: 28-30 M
    Tianjin: 20 + M
    Shenzhen: 15 -20 M
    Hong Kong: 15-20 M

    Many other bigger cities – 10 M range


    Big cities 5 – 10 M

    Luzhou …and so many more

    For HI, the top markets would be in my mind

    Hong Kong, Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, Fuzhou

  107. NorthShoreFan February 12, 2010 1:46 pm

    Paka, my son in law friend is one nutz cowboy. Resides in Weatherford. Good fun guy and stands about 6’7″, 300+, likes Kahlua/Vodka.

  108. SteveM February 12, 2010 1:46 pm

    Paka — will leave you on the Texas listing. New city, new blog name. šŸ˜‰

    Regards to JJ and staff!

    …and note that Midnight wanted to meet you before he knew who you were…just in case you have a couple extra SMU tickets next season. Do you karaoke? šŸ˜†

  109. Pomai February 12, 2010 1:58 pm

    Garret let me be very clear, “I do not want the NCAA to take over the role the BCS plays” I just think that there is a better way to make things more even for all schools. Question – if we had one organization who did what the BCS does except for all schools, would they not have a better hand to negotiate with the TV guys for a better pay out for all schools?

  110. Kazz February 12, 2010 1:59 pm

    I couldn’t resist, since we have a new blogger posting under “Paka”, I offer this classic tune from the late and great Don Ho:

    Who is the lolo who stole my pakalolo
    I saw them it in the yard only yesterday
    Then when I came how I found it was gone
    Somebody came took em away

    One day I found these tiny little seeds
    Threw them out the window, I figure hey no need
    6 months later I found to my suprise ????
    At first I didn’t know why they grew so tall ????
    A few days later I look out to find, instead of 50 bushes there were 29

    Who is the lolo who stole my pakalolo
    I saw them it in the yard only yesterday
    Then when I came how I found it was gone
    Somebody came took em away

    The very next morning it was pounding at my door
    I said hey go away
    But they only pound somemore
    I open up door
    And tell them where to go
    The men pull out a badge and say hey we from 5-0
    “You see ??? We have reports from the facility that someone has been growing da kine, da pakalolo tree”
    They went into my yard, discover my hole
    Instead of 29 there was nothing at all

    I’d like to thank the lolo who stole my pakalolo
    I had it in the yard only yesterday
    cause lucky for me the rest is all gone
    The man with the badge would of took me away

  111. Stephen Tsai February 12, 2010 2:01 pm

    From what I’ve been hearing lately, UH’s hidden asset for a Pac-10 bid is that it can attract the potentially lucrative Asian market.
    And if the U.S. market hits the saturation point, that indeed would be attractive.
    One small problem: UH doesn’t have the Asian market.
    It would be one thing if UH actually has that market. Then it can tell the Pac-10: here’s what we bring to the table.
    But it doesn’t, and it has no bargaining chip, and in the big picture, UCLA probably has a bigger marketing foothold in Asia
    First thing’s first: UH needs to get on the ball.
    The clock is running.

  112. Stephen Tsai February 12, 2010 2:02 pm

    The song was written by Bart Bascone, who released it almost simultaneously. But everybody bought Don Ho’s version.
    Bascone also wrote/perfromed “Makapuu,” on the first Homegrown album, I believe.
    Bascone died a few years ago.

  113. Paka February 12, 2010 2:04 pm

    Yeah, that’s my brother. I never knew he was a nuclear engineer. I know he works at Pearl and plays guitar though.

    I think you’re mistaking me for another Lopaka. I blogged awhile ago under my real name when this first started, but never under another name.
    Tell midnight to email me and I’ll hook it up.

  114. LizKauai m/ February 12, 2010 2:05 pm

    The earth is one country and humankind are it’s athletes…

    okok… sorry, I couldn’t resist sloganizing a spiritual quote…
    back to my spreadsheets…

    Welcome back, Paka! Please give Coach Jones and Sungod a hug, er, hi-five from me šŸ˜†

  115. NorthShoreFan February 12, 2010 2:10 pm

    ST…totally agree #111. I keep hearing about the asian market but like you say, there is no market at the present time. We have a basketballer but not on the floor currently. Only for a couple of minutes at best. We used to have a Korean baseballer (catcher) but he went back because of family obligations. The guy had some potential. He would walk in to Camelia’s McCully and the whole staff would come out to greet him. Dude must have had a lot of free dinners there.
    Anyhoo, unless we have someone like a Ichiro or Yao, hard to sell American style sports to Asia. Most of them do not understand football. Agree that schools like UCLA, Stanford, Cal probably has more publicity there than Hawaii, other then a tourist destination.

  116. Paka February 12, 2010 2:13 pm

    NSF #107
    Does your friend still have eligibility left? šŸ˜‰

  117. Stretch February 12, 2010 2:17 pm

    UH Women’s team has a start w/ Mai Ayabe.

  118. NorthShoreFan February 12, 2010 2:22 pm

    Paka..I wish!..If he did he would be a Warrior by now!…LOL! He would have been a great OL guy. Big but seem to move around well. Until he finishes the Kahlua/Vodka bottles though..Then he get clumsy!

  119. Kazz February 12, 2010 2:25 pm

    I instantly liked Mai Ayabe when she first stepped onto the court. Real tough one on one defender and could take the ball down court well enough to handle a full court press.

    When Kuehu went down it sucked!!! When Ayabe went down, not good either.

    Unfortunately Ayabe won’t be able to claim hardship and she’ll only have next season to play as a Rainbow Wahine.

  120. Kazz February 12, 2010 2:31 pm

    For a sec there I thought Stretch found some info saying Ayabe somehow healed her ACL and will start the next game!

  121. Pomai February 12, 2010 2:31 pm

    I would think with the past and present connection that the State of Hawaii would be able to make a faster inroad into the Asian market. If I was Mr. Donovan I would be looking for help from the private sector to make those inroads open up. One of the first things do we have a sister school in Japan or other Asian countries? If not well do it. Also find a recruit from Japan, China or the Philippians. All kind of possibilities.

  122. SteveM February 12, 2010 2:32 pm

    Stretch — the photo in post #117 looks like a certain statistical blogger here…maybe 25 years ago. šŸ˜•

  123. Pomai February 12, 2010 2:37 pm

    ST does Bill Hinshaw have some kind of official capacity at UH?

  124. A-House February 12, 2010 2:38 pm


    Please explain how UCLA has a “bigger market” in Asia? Name recognition? More graduates?


    me no sabe what is a AQ vs non-AQ school?

  125. Stretch February 12, 2010 2:38 pm

    I am sure everyone remembers JJ idea of playing a game in Japan. How huge would that be right now if it had happened??

  126. Kazz February 12, 2010 2:43 pm

    At work, I meet A LOT of Japanese and Korean nationals going to school at UH Manoa. Can’t help but pick away at their brains to see how they feel about college athletics, especially at UH. Since they are new students by the time I meet them they probably not that familiar with our programs, but for the most part it’s 50/50 with them initially.

    Of course I don’t see them at the SSC, some at Rainbow baseball, and at the football games there are just too many people in general to figure out who’s who.

  127. jm2375 February 12, 2010 2:45 pm

    SteveM – #122 – whodat? šŸ˜€
    Stretch – #117 – what about Jiang? or doesn’t he count?

    venting – why is there a $2 per tix fee to buy online and then a fee to print at home? wouldn’t that make it easier for UH? this is why i stand in line to buy the tixs!!

  128. A-House February 12, 2010 2:48 pm


    Hope UH and SMU will have home-n-home series soon as A-House ohana has never been to Dallas.

    My only contact with Texas was in 1968 when I drove the “pan handle” on my way home from the Army and a “pit-stop” at the Dallas-Fort Worth airport.

    1968 trip was interesting as we hit a locust swarm going 95mph on a 200 mile straight a way on the old Route 66.

    “Pit stop” was funny as we landed around 3:30am from San Francisco to catch flight to Fort Smith, Arkansas. 15 officers from Hawaii, mostly oriental, dressed in military uniform and all the people stopped and stared at us like we were going to attack them. On the return trip, at Oklahoma City airport, I am walking to the gate and I hear this lady screaming my name from afar and immediatley recognize her voice. We had Speech 100 class at UH in 1960 and had no contact for 12 years. She is an attorney in Honolulu today.

  129. Stretch February 12, 2010 2:48 pm

    Maybe ST can talk to his Japanese friend and find out how to get into the home country market.

  130. Stretch February 12, 2010 2:51 pm

    A-House – if UH ever has a game at SMU and the Dallas Cowboys have a home game the next day, you have to attend the game to check out the stadium. I know it’s going to kill you to sit through the game, but the stadium is AWESOME!! But think about it, at least you will get to cheer for a winning team.

  131. Pomai February 12, 2010 2:54 pm


    “AQ”, for “automatic qualifier”

    “NON-AQ”, for “non automatic qualifier”

  132. al February 12, 2010 3:00 pm

    talk about breaking rice bowls…..
    pat hamamoto becomes the first female principle at the all boy st. louis school.

  133. Kazz February 12, 2010 3:02 pm


    Less than two hours away till the first pitch of a new day. The weather should be better, the butterflies should all be gone, and the hands should be VERY itchy for some RBIs and HRs tonight. Last night was a good test for the seasoned sophomore Ricketts and senior Amanda Taualii.

    Now to start off the day Kaia Parnaby makes her Rainbow Wahine debut and she’ll be sure to make an impression or at least place every effort to do so to start out well.

    Kelly Majam now has the opening night out of the way. Now let’s see her do her thing the way we believe she can.

    For Jenna Rodriguez, I saw what Coolen meant about her just wanting to win at everything. She’ll be looking for redemption as most people who select Ozzy Osbourne’s “Crazy Train” as their song to walk out to when going up to bat usually doā€¦ šŸ˜Ž

  134. al February 12, 2010 3:04 pm

    sobering note….

    in the days of my youth i had ventured to the waianae coast often to surf, fish, and dive. today, i went out west for the first time in a couple of years.

    what a wake up call to see the shoreline lined with tents, lean-to’s, sides of derelict walls, and the like. boy do these homeless folks have it tough.

    …nuff said.

  135. al February 12, 2010 3:07 pm

    wow, sure wish that i could go watch a cowboy game.

  136. jm2375 February 12, 2010 3:09 pm

    Dallas Cowboys = winning team. NOT!!!


  137. al February 12, 2010 3:10 pm

    read this:

  138. jm2375 February 12, 2010 3:18 pm

    The Western Athletic Conference has reprimanded University of Idaho men’s basketball coach Don Verlin for complaining about referees.

    They probably deserved it!! šŸ˜ˆ

  139. G (China) February 12, 2010 3:24 pm

    I think you could look at what the Yankees are doing to stir interest in baseball in China. I’m hearing that they are doing a lot to raise awareness and interest for a sport that is not known here either. In terms of basketball, every kid, college student, want to be like Yao Ming. Now they want to be like Le Bron, Kobe, Shaq.

    If I was UH representatives, I wouldn’t be thinking unilaterally reaching out to this market because they don’t have the funds like Yanks. I would consider a consortium of teams to make a brand known. The NBA made this their approach while making Yao Ming their center-piece. They had Huston and a few other teams do play against Huston in exhibition games all across cities in China. Today the NBA’s second largest market is China.

  140. G (China) February 12, 2010 3:25 pm

    wanted to be like Yao Ming

  141. G (China) February 12, 2010 3:28 pm

    okay got to press the edit button.

  142. Pride. February 12, 2010 3:33 pm

    G (China):

    February 12th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
    Re: Population

    China is known to have super populated cities.

    Shanghai: 28 M
    Beijing: 25 M
    Chongqing: 28-30 M
    Tianjin: 20 + M
    Shenzhen: 15 -20 M
    Hong Kong: 15-20 M

    G (China), have three friends who frequently visit Shanghai for business. Another friend just returned to Honolulu after living in Shanghai for two years, and can’t wait to return. There is a local shipping company that has terminal operations in Xiamen, Ningbo, and Shanghai. That company has five ships going into those three ports on a two week rotation, retuning to stops in L.A., Honolulu, and Guam. I have seen a lot of products originate from and around the shanghai area. There appears to be quite a bit of U.S. companies with manufacturing arms near the area. From my limited perspective, Shanghai just appears to be a natural fit for a University from Honolulu. I do realize that you would have a better perspective.

  143. oldie February 12, 2010 3:36 pm

    One of Hawaii’s biggest assets is what it brings to the television market.

    If you strictly at the size of the population around the university, then Hawaii is small. However, if you consider that Hawaii expands the market by 3 time zones, that is a tremendous plus.

    Instead of an afternoon and evening game, with Hawaii, you would have an afternoon, evening, and late evening game. You hear a lot of stories about football nuts on the East Coast staying up to watch the Warriors. Of course, Hawaii needs to be competitive.

  144. oldie February 12, 2010 3:39 pm

    Plus if games are ever shown in Asia, an evening game in Hawaii is early afternoon in Asia.

  145. Ralph February 12, 2010 3:46 pm

    Didn’t Lingle travel to Asia to promote Hawaii, but she got criticized by our Democratic legislature for leaving the islands in these austere times, giving a push for tourism and opening of markets and technology.

  146. Ralph February 12, 2010 3:51 pm

    problem with Hawaii, too much political posturing, the old boy and democratic party wants it their way or no way. But the old boy and democratic hierchy is an oligarchy, lacks inclusion of the masses and new ideas are tabled. UH and our school system are examples of our failed legislature controlled by one party with no ideas.

  147. Ralph February 12, 2010 3:53 pm

    UH needs the business community and the legislature to back it to the fullest, especially expanding UH interest in Asia, in athletics, research, recruitment of students, technology, business, etc.

  148. G (China) February 12, 2010 3:53 pm

    Yeah I forgot about Ningbo. Another huge city. The three cities you mentioned are big shipping ports, Xiamen the smallest of the three. Chongqing is interesting because they ship all their products through the Yangtze River to get to Shanghai. This was one of the not well known reasons why they had the three groge dam built. To build the economy from the west.

    There are three provinces that knows the west, outside of Shanghai, Beijing, and Hong Kong and that is Jiangsu, Guangdong, and Fujian Province. Fujian is interesting because you have 2 Million Fuzhou people alone living in New York alone and many folks from the province living in very developed South East Asian countries like Singapore.

  149. Ralph February 12, 2010 3:54 pm

    I remember last year a Japanese national came to UH fb practice and baseball games but Jason was too shy to cultivate intenational relations.

  150. Kazz February 12, 2010 4:00 pm


    You are correct ma’am!!!

    Those WAC idiots protect their own no matter how poor their officiating crew is.

    Brought a friend, a big basketball junkie, to last weekend’s Wahine and men’s double header and the first thing he says about the Wahine game is “dude, is the officiating always this bad?”

  151. G (China) February 12, 2010 4:10 pm


    I’ll be in HI for an extended time starting in August. I’m looking forward to the football season and soaking in the sun. I want to be of whatever service I can be for my Alma Mater. Perhaps I can join in a CC and find out more what you had in mind.

  152. Kazz February 12, 2010 4:19 pm


    I think we should nominate Koakane to be in charge on international relations on behalf of UH and the Tsaikos.

    Koakane after a few green bottles of course! šŸ˜‰

  153. d1島 February 12, 2010 4:19 pm


    Nonetheless, the decision to keep Curry at the Academy seems to be quite divisive.

    One midshipman, who asked not to be identified for fear of reprisals, said the fact Curry was not automatically separated based on the “zero tolerance” policy was an indication of a double standard involving standout athletes at the academy.

    “Across the board, the reaction of the brigade to this decision is 100 percent negative,” the midshipman said. “Average midshipmen are outraged and even many of the football players are upset.”

  154. LizKauai m/ February 12, 2010 4:43 pm

    G (China) – looking forward to seeing you at the T-Gates this season!!!

    Happy Valentines, errybodee!!

  155. protector February 12, 2010 5:01 pm

    Good luck to Cameron & the team in his quest to return!

    If we do have a realistic shot at getting into the PAC-10, I hope they run with it. If Boise State was going to stay another 10 years in the WAC, I wouldn’t worry. However the handwriting is on the wall & Boise looks poised to leave; it’s just a matter of when. If & when they do leave, alternatives for the WAC look bleak for UH. I like that Donovan made the call, whether it bears fruit or not.

  156. mctruck February 12, 2010 5:31 pm


    Just wondering if Benjamin Paka Elementary School in Kaneohe has any connection to your family??…nah!nah!, just joking with U.

    I had a friend from days long gone whom we all called, Paka as well. He sometimes would clown around with us when we called out to him, saying to us, “don’t swear at me, eh!”…..if you know what I mean?

  157. G (China) February 12, 2010 5:48 pm

    Thanks Liz…look forward to the time together with the Tsaikos

  158. wafan February 12, 2010 5:57 pm

    Sad story about the luger from Georgia (Russia). A real downer.

  159. wafan February 12, 2010 6:01 pm

    Pix look like they are discussing the perfect plate lunch.

    BH: “Gotta have the mac salad, rice, . . . heck, everything covered in gravy.”

    JD: “Hmmmm, even the mac . . .”

    BH: “Everything.”

  160. wafan February 12, 2010 6:02 pm

    Awesome GE commercial for the Olympics. “Say, ahhhh.” The 9th Symphony. Neat-o!

  161. RedZone February 12, 2010 6:12 pm

    go Wahine.




  162. RedZone February 12, 2010 6:16 pm

    The luge if one of my favorite events. They got to be nuts. But yeah after I saw the video of the Georgian crash it was a real downer. Seeing crashes before I don’t know why they built those pilars so close to the track. Make no sense to me.

  163. jm2375 (21) February 12, 2010 7:10 pm

    small crowd @ vb. i spy Stretch, KK, Rob25, & A-joe

  164. wafan February 12, 2010 7:22 pm

    The Macedonian flag looks like the Japanese Rising Sun flag.

  165. (Jesse) James February 12, 2010 7:23 pm

    jm2375…wow…must be loud den…MWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

  166. wafan February 12, 2010 7:24 pm

    The Georgia contingent looks grim. Kudos to them for marching in! Proud group.

  167. wafan February 12, 2010 7:29 pm

    Those folks standing around in white on the floor at BC Place must be roasting! 70-degrees, they are dancing around, wearing knit hats, slacks, and turtleneck sweaters. Dang.

  168. buffoman February 12, 2010 7:30 pm

    Here’s the out of the box idea for the State of Hawaii and the UH athletic department.

    We will fly the teams to Hawaii at what would the the average cost the Pac 10 teams would pay each year to commute in the configuration in the West coast with the current 9 others in the Pac 10.

    Reason we can do this is that we, the UH will enter into a business venture where we would lease our own airplane. To keep the cost of this arrangement to a minimum, the UH business school would assist in setting up in a business venture where we would charter the plane for Vegas trips, military lifts and the like when the plane is not scheduled to ferry the named teams (football, basketball, baseball, track) to and from the islands.

    The UH could then work to sell sponsorships to help defray the cost, gas, maintenance, etc.. to sponsors. The plane could carry the logos of the companies, much like NASCAR cars. Why pay subsidies if we can provide the benefit but own (lease) the asset that may allow us opportunities to create income that may be more beneficial than simply “giving it away”.

    Sounds crazy. Has anyone looked into this as a possibiloity? If travel was not an issue, could that drop what may be a Big barrier for not allowing entry into the Pac 10?

    If there is a month before the Pac 10 decides as to whether they will seek 2 more teams, why not setting the table now in anticipation.

    Is this outside of the box or plain stupid.

  169. Paka February 12, 2010 7:31 pm

    With that height and weight, he definitely would be an OL guy, and being a cowboy myself, I know he has good balance. He would cut down on the Kahlua/Vodka when he got a taste of all the running we put the boys through.

    A home and home would be nice. I know June wanted to schedule UH but I think we’re booked for the next few years. I was just on a trip with the AD and overheard him taking a call from the PennSt. AD who wanted to schedule us. He told him we were booked for awhile. I wish we could schedule them because we have a good history against Big Ten teams.

  170. bighilofan2 February 12, 2010 7:33 pm


    great idea.

  171. What Keeps You From Your Destiny February 12, 2010 7:36 pm

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  172. jm2375 (21) February 12, 2010 7:39 pm

    it’s gonna be a long night. 33-35 set 1

  173. Paka February 12, 2010 7:43 pm

    I love that song. One of my best friends on the team when I played was a guy named Ryan Grey. He played receiver. We were driving to the North Shore one day when that song came on. He couldn’t stop laughing. We kept singing it to and from Waimea.

  174. wafan February 12, 2010 7:58 pm

    And the US makes an apprearance to loud cheers. Canda entered and the cheering is unbelieveable! Whoo-hoo!!!

  175. OldDiver February 12, 2010 8:12 pm

    Regarding # 146

    Sorry Ralph but I’m gonna have to disagree with you on this one.

    Linda Lingle appoints the Board of Regents and the University has autonomy. While the legislature appropriates the funds it has no direct control over UH. Let’s remember education takes up half the budget so increasing funding for UH will require funds to be taken from something else. What has irritated the legislature is that when UH asks for more money and is asked how it will be spend the legislature is told “we have autonomy so we don’t have to answer those questions”. It is a widely held belief by the legislature that UH is not spending money wisely, hence their frustration. This subject is much more complicated than this of course, but the public perception that UH is controlled by the Democrat’s while being a Republican talking point is too simplistic an argument.

  176. bighilofan2 February 12, 2010 8:20 pm

    Lindle Lingle often, by design, allows UH to deal with the problem on its own, so as not to be seen as the Republican’s fault.

    Happened last year on a situation, matter of fact.

    often the best policy is to pass of the problem to somebody else, or so it seems to the powers that be,…. and we still wonder why we don’t win, when we don’t have any Urban Meyers, or Joe Pa or yadaz at the top.

    but we could have them,if only our guyz would step up to the plate, perception wize. jmo

  177. OldDiver February 12, 2010 8:26 pm

    Regarding #168

    I agree we must think out of the box on this one, but leasing an airplane that will compete with Hawaiian Airlines and others will meet with stiff opposition. JD made a good first step by asking the PAC-10 what they are looking for from potential members. I do believe by the time the PAC-10 comes up with a list of what they require for new members it will be too late for UH to meet those requirements. I believe like you that UH needs to come up with what it believes those requirements will be and try to achieve them within a reasonable time frame.

  178. buffoman February 12, 2010 8:41 pm

    Old diver, true, it may probably upset the status quo, but change does that abd if the numbers make sense, would we stop because it would upset the status quo and put ourselves back into the box, or would we change to best position the institution to find success? That is where we all expect leadership to move us forward. Change does not occur by playing it safe. Change, real change occurs when risk and discomfort occurs.

    Question is do we wnat to go outside the box, or work from within…again.

  179. Garret February 12, 2010 8:57 pm


    Best wishes for your Junior Day tomorrow. You sure do have an impressive group of recruits attending from what I understand.

  180. OldDiver February 12, 2010 8:57 pm

    Ok, sorry I didn’t make myself clear. UH leasing an airplane to compete with Hawaiian Airlines and others will be seen as government competing with private companies. While I think the numbers might work out, for the reason I mentioned I don’t see this happening.

  181. Garret February 12, 2010 9:00 pm

    Lots of Junior Days going on tomorrow, including Texas and SMU. Since more and more schools are having 2 Junior Days, there always will be overlapping Junior Days.

  182. el guapo February 12, 2010 9:04 pm

    Buy the plane and lease it back to Hawaiian, and have them supply the crew.

  183. OldDiver February 12, 2010 9:04 pm


    Are those schools having two junior days because their recruiting base is huge and they can’t accommodate all the players on one day?

  184. Garret February 12, 2010 9:04 pm

    The Pac-10 has been in MAJOR cost-cutting mode. Remember, Cal took a *bus* for their road game at UCLA.

    You also have to remember that travel costs do not just include football games. You have to account for ALL the nonrevenue sports–soccer, tennis, women’s basketball, etc. Even though schools make all their money on football and men’s basketball, they still need to pay all the travel expenses for the other sports.

    Due to the need for travel partners, often times one team will be traveling to UH while the other team is leaving UH after their road game. How will one plane take care of that? What happens when UH has several sports going on (like this weekend) and teams all need to fly in from different states?

  185. Garret February 12, 2010 9:07 pm


    Yes, there are simply too many recruits to handle on just one day. Plus, this allows for recruits to have 2 days to attend in case they have a conflict (say, a track meet or a basketball game) on one date.

    Sometimes a recruit has car problems or a family emergency and misses the first Junior Day. Since recruits pay all travel expenses, if they have travel problems on one day the school cannot help them out with their travel.

  186. d1島 February 12, 2010 9:07 pm

    Sheesh…rocket scientists sure can come up with a lot of good questions!

  187. OldDiver February 12, 2010 9:08 pm

    A wide body jet nowadays runs north of $250 million.

  188. Garret February 12, 2010 9:09 pm

    Free play link time. Please ignore my next 5 posts if you do not want to read the off-topic stuff.

    Engineering professor used flow measurements to employ science and technology to help the US skeleton team gain an edge over other sliders in the Vancouver Olympics.

  189. Garret February 12, 2010 9:09 pm

    Researchers used commonly available technology (parts from printers, digital cameras and projectors) to make rapid lasers to shoot down mosquitoes in mid-flight. The system can shoot down between 50 and 100 mosquitoes per second and can even select the species and gender of its targets.

  190. Garret February 12, 2010 9:10 pm

    Microsoft stopped the distribution of the Windows security update that resulted in Blue Screen of Death errors for Windows XP users. Unfortunately, Microsoft says that they have no solution for the people who already installed the patch and have computers that are not usable anymore…they get the Blue Screen every time they try to get their computer to start!

  191. Garret February 12, 2010 9:10 pm

    Arab ambassador got an instant divorce after trying to kiss his bride after the marriage contract was signed and seeing that she had a beard and was cross-eyed when he lifted up her veil. The bride had hidden her face throughout their courtship and the bride’s parents apparently sent his family a photo of her much more attractive sister and claimed it was her.

  192. Garret February 12, 2010 9:12 pm

    British department store chain has created a gift registry for those who wish to help a loved one celebrate a *divorce*…I never thought I’d see a divorce gift registry.

  193. Garret February 12, 2010 9:12 pm

    Free play links pau.

  194. whitey February 12, 2010 9:13 pm

    buffoman, great thinking. now that idea has plenty things that can be discussed. take it another way, uh absorbs 50% of the airfare and the visitor is responsible for the other 50%. to help make up the deficit, add on a surcharge to season ticket holders and premium surcharge to individual game tickets. if UH is fortunate in getting in the PAC 12, they will probably end up paying for only 4 visiting games from the conference each season in football.

  195. Garret February 12, 2010 9:17 pm

    Instead of the huge expense of buying or leasing a plane, UH would be better off getting a special deal with Hawaiian Airlines. One plane won’t be enough for UH and more than one plane is impossible to make the financial numbers work. However, Hawaiian might be happy to help out UH and they do fly to most Pac-10 cities.

    Maybe JD’s call to the HTA was to enlist their help with a package deal for travel+hotels for visiting teams. Hawaii hotels definitely have lots of rooms available during non-peak seasons like this and they could fill some of their empty rooms at a discount and get the goodwill of helping UH…they come out ahead financially and UH gets a good deal.

  196. Kazz (blkberry_storm) February 12, 2010 9:17 pm

    Wahine handled Texas A&M CC well by pulling the Mercy Rule 9-0 and on paper hung in there with Stanford with a 2-0 loss but were really outhit 6-1.

    Stanford’s pitcher was a beast.

    Tomorrow is a new day!!!

  197. Garret February 12, 2010 9:20 pm

    The BIG problem for UH is that the Pac-10 uses travel partners to keep costs down. For example, a soccer team from UCLA will take a bus up to the Bay Area and play Stanford and Cal in one weekend to keep costs down. If they fly into Hawaii for a Thursday game, they cannot just stay at the same hotel and bus to their Saturday game at Colorado or whatever other school the Pac-10 adds.

    Forget about travel costs for football. What UH has to worry about is travel costs for all of those nonrevenue sports.

  198. d1島 February 12, 2010 9:23 pm

    Stanford’s pitcher was a beast.

    Yeah? But how was her pitching?

  199. Garret February 12, 2010 9:26 pm

    Four home games for football is not the travel problem to worry about.

    9 or 10 home games for men’s basketball, women’s basketball, soccer, softball, women’s volleyball, etc., are a much bigger issue. The even bigger issue is how they are going to play two games in one weekend when one of the games is in Hawaii and the other is in Colorado or Utah.

    Baseball, golf, rowing, swimming, tennis, and other sports are also going to need to be accounted for.

  200. wafan February 12, 2010 9:50 pm

    American commentators need to learn to be quiet during speeches. I am sure we can understand English!

    Sound was a problem on the network. Kept cuctting out during the performance. All that cash and someone kept tripping on the cord. HA!

  201. wafan February 12, 2010 9:52 pm

    I think the US Bobsled team is comprised of our military. Awesome — if I heard it correctly.

  202. wafan February 12, 2010 9:53 pm


  203. Ralph February 12, 2010 9:58 pm

    So Koa Mahu married an Arab ambassador, but the marriage was annulled. Tough luck Koa, remember, J(J) is available at all hours, and after sporting events, Kazz needs an outlet to relax.

  204. Ralph February 12, 2010 9:59 pm

    D1 the beast from Stanford can pitch, threw a lot of heat, Na Wahine bats were a bit slow to catch up to the ball-blown away.

  205. Garret February 12, 2010 10:02 pm

    Texas’ Junior Day is tomorrow, but 3 players driving into town for the Junior Day committed today.

  206. Ralph February 12, 2010 10:07 pm

    Ashley Chinn threw a one hitter with 10 Ks. UH had 11 k’s against McNeese last night. McNeese pitcher got UH to chase after the risers, Chinn just threw heat. She’s only 5’6 and the catcher’s mitt reached popped.

  207. Ralph February 12, 2010 10:15 pm

    Old Diver I’m for UH autonomy, don’t need to answer to the legislature, they need to have their own vision without strings attached. It’s like tenure for the professors, job security and freedom to teach and do their research without impedment from the administration. The legislature wants to control the purse strings and wants UH to answer to them, that is not autonomy, that is control.

  208. OldDiver February 12, 2010 10:18 pm

    UH already has autonomy.

  209. NYUH February 12, 2010 10:41 pm

    I would agree with Pride that the New Zealand and Australia markets could be quite important for PAC-10 consideration. Its a doable 10 hour flight from Sydney with both having relative booming economies and good universities. Both have historically been captured by the commonwealth circuits of news and a conception of “sport” as being primarily cricket and rugby but the Internet is changing that, especially with Matt Brier’s success in Dallas. A couple of years of booming success by Dunnachie will also help.

  210. SteveM February 12, 2010 10:54 pm

    February 12th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
    Microsoft stopped the distribution of the Windows security update that resulted in Blue Screen of Death errors for Windows XP users. Unfortunately, Microsoft says that they have no solution for the people who already installed the patch and have computers that are not usable anymore…they get the Blue Screen every time they try to get their computer to start!

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  211. Ralph February 12, 2010 11:02 pm

    Kazz Na Wahine sb at 10 am vs McNeese. Too early for me.

  212. Ralph February 12, 2010 11:11 pm

    4 pm sb championship game, most likely Stanford vs the winner of the Na Wahine vs McNeese State winner.

  213. jm2375 February 12, 2010 11:13 pm

    Congrats to MPI boys soccer!! On to the finals vs Honokaa tomorrow!

  214. al February 12, 2010 11:21 pm

    hawaiian airlines would reap the rewards of a pac10 association.

    they currently fly into seattle, portland, sfo, oakland, san jose, la, and phoenix. that alone covers all of the pac10.

    maybe some kind of travel incentive program including charter and discouting for other non revenue sports could work for both ha and the pac12?

  215. al February 12, 2010 11:23 pm

    then add’l flts for football could help pay the bills. i am sure that pac 10 alums wouldn’t mind a hawaii trip every other year.

    a hotel package including the teams and fans would then be natural.

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  217. NYUH February 13, 2010 1:06 am

    Why isn’t basketball a winter sport?

  218. Garret February 13, 2010 4:45 am

    Two articles popped up today about Leonard Peters playing for the USA rugby team.

    “Leonard started playing in July, and he’s really picked up the game quite rapidly,” Caravelli said. “The passing is different, so sometimes he has a little difficulty with that. But he knows the rules probably better than most referees.”

  219. Garret February 13, 2010 4:46 am

    Peters, who played college football at Hawaii, joined the team last year after the Bears cut him from their practice squad. When the coaches explained to him that the sevens version of rugby was all about quick games, Peters thought the sport would be easy to adjust to.

    He was in for a rude awakening.

    “When I heard it was only 20-minute games, I was like, ‘Man, I would kill that. I’ve played two-hour games in college and the NFL,'” Peters said. “The first game I ever played in rugby, after two minutes, I was begging the coach to take me out.”

    “The running in rugby is unbelievable,” Peters said. “In football, you run for nine seconds and rest for 30 seconds. In rugby, you run for seven minutes straight.”

  220. anonymous February 13, 2010 5:04 am


    garret writes about the Big 10 “gets more” than the SEC. I don’t think so. According to the author of this article it the other way around

    care about is how many people will watch their games. Sadly, it is a fact that the many more people will watch games from the SEC, Big 12, Big 10, and Pac-10 than the MAC, Sun Belt, C-USA, WAC, and MWC. That is why the SEC gets $3 billion, the Big 10 gets *more* than the SEC,

    garret the author of this article writes that the SEC assault on our nation’s television sets. The 2009 season marks the beginning of a new 15-year, $2.25 billion contract with ESPN, which coincides with a 15-year, $825 million deal with CBS.

    and Big Ten cable agreements, the two-year-old Big Ten Network (which airs approximately 35 football games annually) is now available on most major cable carriers. Last year the channel grossed $66 million in revenue for the league, which also has a 10-year, $1 billion deal with ABC/ESPN.

  221. wafan February 13, 2010 5:58 am

    A cool and wet Saturday to everyone! Or a warm and dry one if you prefer.

  222. LizKauai (iPhone) February 13, 2010 6:00 am

    Here too! The cold woke me up. Need another blanket!!!!

    Aloha Kakahiaka, wafan!

  223. Paka February 13, 2010 6:02 am

    Garrett re:180
    Thanks. I’m putting together some presentations for the Juniors now, so yeah, it’s a nice group coming.

    We did have a very good recruiting class. I made a video which our PR guy should have put on the internet, but I haven’t seen it on there yet.The speed and athleticism of this class was pretty unreal. I didn’t get to see UH’s class, but I hope they had a good year as well.

  224. LizKauai (iPhone) February 13, 2010 6:04 am

    211- Is that how MS gets rid of an old reliable OS?
    I’m totally Mac except for my netbook and a couple old notebooks with XP.

  225. wafan February 13, 2010 6:06 am

    Hi, Liz!

    What have you planned to celebrate your year?

  226. wafan February 13, 2010 6:07 am

    And, a Happy Valentine’s Day Eve to all!

  227. wafan February 13, 2010 6:09 am

    Looks like the WSU AD is headed to SDSU. Will he be the one to oversee the demise of a d-1 football program?

  228. LizKauai (iPhone) February 13, 2010 6:20 am

    #226- nada. But hoping #1 son can catch something yummy in da ocean to eat!

  229. Garret February 13, 2010 6:32 am


    Your link did not work, but that article was from July 2009 so the numbers are old. In 2009, a number of sources (including SI) reported that the Big 10 earned $12 million per team from TV in 2008. I posted that number early in yesterday’s blog.

    Then, I found the 2010 articles that specified that the Big 10 TV revenue increased to more than $17 million for this school year. I posted that article later in yesterday’s blog.

    So, I thought just like you that the SEC ($17 million per team per year) made more than the Big 10. However, the Big 10 apparently passed the SEC in TV revenue due to having more cable companies carry their network.

    One thing you have to take into account with the numbers is that the SEC splits TV revenue with 12 teams and the Big 10 splits with 11 teams.

  230. Garret February 13, 2010 6:33 am

    That is more than $17 million per team this school year, not $17 million total for the Big 10.

  231. Garret February 13, 2010 6:35 am

    SteveM and Liz,

    I’m quite worried because I currently use XP and I can see that Microsoft isn’t going to try hard to keep my computer secure and keep the updates safe. If you don’t update when they tell you to, the computer isn’t safe…and if you do update you risk the chance of turning your computer into a paperweight.

  232. Garret February 13, 2010 6:42 am


    That MLB Hankins looks impressive (#6 MLB in the country with offers from everywhere–Miami, Notre Dame, Cal, Nebraska, Arkansas, etc.) and players like him and the 4-star back would be huge recruits to get.

    Everything I posted is freely available on the web, as I don’t pay for SMU recruiting news. My Google News searches for University of Hawaii football are what give me a lot of Warriors-related links to post here…but lots of SMU stuff pops up also. I hope that eventually the JJ articles will stop mentioning UH.

  233. protector February 13, 2010 6:59 am

    Garret & anonymous,

    You guys are boggling my mind with the figures you’ve stated for some of those AQ conferences. If UH had that kind of revenue, just think of where its programs would be…Keeping that perspective, UH is overachieving while many of the teams in the Big-10 and elsewhere are significantly UNDER-achieving.

  234. wafan February 13, 2010 7:06 am

    #229. Good luck to him to catch a yummy dinner!!!

  235. Paka February 13, 2010 7:14 am

    Lol…I think JJ will forever be intertwined with Hawaii. We still act, dress, and pass on the values we brought from there. Early last season when we were playing UAB, June challenged a play and the referee announced on the loud speaker that HAWAII was challenging the call. Classic.

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  238. anonymous February 13, 2010 8:36 am


    SEC—3 billion (ESPN)+825 mil (CBS)/15 years=X then X/12 teams= around 17 mil. per SEC team/yearly

    Big 10—1 billion (ABC, ESPN)/10 years=100 mil a yr.+ 66 mil ( Big 10’s own network ,figures for 2008 season)=166 mil/11 teams around 15 mil per Big 10 team

    See if this link works.

    Big Ten

    ā€¢ Big Ten Network: 25 years, $2.8 billion* through 2031-32

    ā€¢ ABC/ESPN: 10 years, $1 billion through 2016


    ā€¢ ESPN: 15 years, $2.25 billion

    ā€¢ CBS: 15 years, $825 million

    Mountain West

    ā€¢ Comcast/CBS College Sports/The Mtn.: Seven years, $82 million through 2013-14
    Conference USA

    ā€¢ CBS College Sports: Six years, $45.8 million

    ā€¢ ESPN: Six years, $22 million through 2010-11

    Exact terms for the MAC, WAC and Sun Belt could not be located.

    WAC? Benson where are you?

  239. Kazz February 13, 2010 8:40 am

    Last night Rainbow Wahine 9-0 over Texas A&M CC and Stanford over UH 2-0

    I missed the first game of the DH last night, but Ralph and Pomai were there and filled me in on Kaia Parnaby’s great debut at the mound as a Rainbow Wahine. Glad the bats came alive. Granted it was a lesser opponent in Texas A&M CC, but still we should have hit very well against them and we did.

    Congrats to Kelly Majam for getting that monkey off her back and nailing a homer as well. Ralph made a good point in what I suspected. Majam is really coming in “cold” sitting out for an entire year rehabbing from a torn ACL and having surgery and then really only seeing real live pitching against different pitchers only came along this weekend. She’ll find her way. She has too much talent. Her outfield play has been more than adequate. She can cover a lot of ground when needed.

    Stanford had a stud of a pitcher though. Small girl but plenty “mana”. She had hints of losing her composure at times with some VERY wild pitches, however luckily for Stanford we had no one on base during those mishaps. Got out hit 6-1 as the Wahine couldn’t find the mark against this pitcher. Lots of fly balls as it seemed our batters were catching the bottom of her pitches.

    Ricketts held her own very well against the #10 team in the country, but again, our batters need to support our pitching game which is already looking to be living up to what it was supposed to be.

    Na Wahine find themselves the 2nd in the tourney and will have another crack at McNeese State at 10am. If we win this we play at 4pm if not, we resume play at 2pm. After that the Wahine hit the road for two tourneys in which they will face more of their share of teams like a Stanford.

    This is a good test early on the newbies and the players that never made road trips last year will learn early on how to manage the road and how to deal with those challenges before WAC play begins.

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    No matter. I cannot make the 10am game anyway. Got my “Friday” to deal with here in the office until 1pm.

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