Air (Force) fare

Proof that the government has spending restrictions can be found with this weekend’s football game.

It would appear logical that Air Force would rely largely on its athletic budget, funded largely by taxpayers, to pay for this week’s travel to Hawaii.

But the Falcons, like other Mountain West Conference visiting teams, are accepting a travel subsidy from UH. The payout is roughly $175,000, and is part of the agreement allowing UH to join the league in 2012.

This might be the best accommodations for the Falcons, who are restricted from using military airplanes to travel to games.

When it comes to Hawaii and the MWC, there are no free rides.


  1. seewhy October 30, 2015 10:03 am

    Good morning, Tsaikos!

  2. seewhy October 30, 2015 10:06 am

    Either way, our tax dollars are paying for Air Force to come here. But like you said, this route means less kala for UH to spend.

  3. seewhy October 30, 2015 10:07 am

    Most importantly, GO BOWS!

  4. Da Punchbowl Kid October 30, 2015 10:14 am

    Beating every team who is subsidized for travel to Hawai’i would make me feel better about that clause.


    GO WAHINE!!!

  5. SailorBlue October 30, 2015 10:41 am

    Aloha Tsai-kos & Tsai-kettes ~ Tomorrow is FOOTBALL and TGATE time. The team needs us more than ever so come on out to the tgate and game. Also tomorrow is Military Appreciation night, so come out and support our active duty, reserves, National Guards and veterans. We’re still in Cabana A at Rainbow Bay Marina. The routine remains the same: early crew arrive/set-up ~9AM, grill crew fires-up ~10-10:30, eat ono grindz until clean-up ~3 PM since it’s an early start at 4:30. Back after the game to finish off food and talk-story. Donations to pay for the Cabana, pop-up tent and common items (paper & plastic items, charcoal, etc.) are always welcome. Remember, everybody (locals and visitors) are welcome. Questions – email me at jboster(at)yahoo(dot)com. Hope to see everybody there even if it’s after the game. Cheers, SailorBlue

  6. Fanaddict October 30, 2015 10:59 am

    Hawaii’s much too long underrated national championship sport — eating great food where everyone is welcome and season ticket prices are up to you. Just my little free, no associated advertising costs, plug.

  7. st. anthony trojan October 30, 2015 10:59 am

    What a country….Hawaii…you pay sumone to come n play you…n they beat the crap out of you…and they do that whenever they visit…like every 2 years (?)

    Hope the change in coaches…when ever it happens…will change that…

    And ne coach that ne one wants for a short term is ridiculous…if he/she gets wins (10 in football)…he can stay as long as he likes…as far as me is concerned…after all udda things are considered…

    There is one thing most of us forget…Norm Chow is not committed (in my eyes) to his work up there at lower campus…and if u not committed to your work…surely you would FAIL…. n he has…FAILED….MISERABLY… is not the only thing…skills etc. on the job has much to play into it also….but when ur not committed…the mind n work will show it n manifest it self in many ways…players…coaches…fans can see it…at least me can…but of course my opinion not really count…there in lies ur problem…very many season ticket holders can see it… n just stay away from Aloha stadium on game days…their opinion not count also…auwe…

  8. SteveM October 30, 2015 11:27 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Last call for anyone on the blog who is going to the UH-UNLV game next week and want to meet other Tsai-kos. Akamai Okole and (Jesse)James will be there and looking for Tsai-kos to get-together for the usual mischief. I will send a group email to those one this list on Sunday so they may optionally plan to meet, share tips, rides, etc:

  9. Andrew October 30, 2015 11:57 am

    I find it funny that many fans think JJ will be an almost for sure success if he were to return. If you really think about it, what fans blame Chow for can really be applied possibly to the situation if JJ were to return. Chow had much success at BYU and USC which were at this point back in the day. What are some of his downfalls currently that many point out is his inability to adapt his offense to the ever changing college football game. Now taking a look at JJ, we all know his success at UH in the mid 2000s and a bit at SMU his first few seasons. If you think about it, both coaches are similar in a way. They both are pretty stubborn in their offensive schemes. They will both keep doing what they do. JJ would of course air it out and try to beat the opponent in that sense. The game has changed since that time and more and more offenses are relying on the spread and airing it out all over the field, thus defenses have had time over time to adjust accordingly, which is possibly one of the reasons his teams at SMU may not have had as much success. I don’t know maybe he would be able to replicate his success from before here, but to me it seems eerily similar to Chow. Of course we will never know unless it actually happens.

  10. wow October 30, 2015 12:06 pm

    #6, you repeat the same rant over and over and over, give the blog a break and stop the the whining spam

  11. st. anthony trojan October 30, 2015 12:26 pm

    Well… WOW… maybe me is just a whining podogee…don’t ever remember posting b-4 about commitment on chows part….have you seen that b-4…????

    Me is just stating facts mostly about his losing record n his failures.. n many seem to agree about his failure…

    Me don’t know who ur or where you work or have worked.. but for me..if I worked for sumone for 20 plus years…as the second in command…n when he retired n I was not recommended…or even hinted…As the one me wanted to continue the success of the program…THEN I WOULD LOOK AT THIS PERSON WITH A JAUNDICE EYE…DONOVAN DID N GOT CANNED… but sorry guess is same over n over what you call spam…if so then me apologize to you n all others…for me…they let go of better coaches n men…some of them were worst also…

  12. Whats up October 30, 2015 12:44 pm

    I’m not optimistic after watching Hawaii be out coached the past few games, unable to hold onto a lead in the second half and losing.

    Hawaii 17

    Air Force 35

    Plus, I hear Chow saying that injuries are hurting the depth chart (Which happens to all sports teams) and unlike USC which can plug in the next guy like nothing. But my problem with this statement is USC plays in against Power 5 teams and Notre Dame every year and Hawaii plays a few Power 5 schools and in the MWC.

    So when Hawaii loses to MWC teams its because Hawaii can’t recruit USC type recruits? But shouldn’t Hawaii win against other MWC teams that also don’t get USC type recruits too? Something is wrong with Chow logic about this.

  13. NorthShoreFan October 30, 2015 1:10 pm

    Guud Afternoon Tsaikos…bootiful day.

    st anthony trojan, Met Donovan about 3 weeks back. He is looking great! Lost a few lbs. and looked really stress free. When I told him imho we lost a good one he tells me, with a smile, things happen in mysterious ways. Not sure if he’d want to come back if he had a chance to. At least we still have his better half and his son with us.

    Warriors will have to really execute responsibility and discipline against them Falcons. They quick, mobile and disciplined. They execute.


  14. 3-Prong October 30, 2015 1:13 pm

    Two V-ball games and a football game this weekend! I’m gonna run out of green shirts to wear to the games! Go Bows!

  15. Tarheel warrior October 30, 2015 1:34 pm

    UH 24 Air Force 21

  16. SteveM October 30, 2015 1:46 pm

    Tsai-kos Guess the Score – Week 9
    Scores will be accepted until 11:00 am on game day.
    Exact score to win.

    UH – AF – Blogger
    10 – 09 = Ipu Man
    24 – 21 = oneseason (first)
    24 – 21 = Tarheel Warrior
    34 – 23 = ML Warrior
    34 – 24 = Tarai
    34 – 31 = cappie the dog
    37 – 34 = 3-Prong
    38 – 21 – Rodney
    42 – 38 = greenthumb
    49 – 10 = st. anthony trojan
    49 – 21 = TChahng
    56 – 14 = Akamai Okole

    AF – UH – Blogger
    27 – 24 = Willie
    28 – 15 = FCWarrior
    28 – 27 = alamihi crab
    31 – 24 = DaMenehune
    32 – 18 = Ala Wai
    35 – 17 = Whats up
    35 – 24 = A View From Afar

  17. rodn ey October 30, 2015 1:59 pm

    I think Id be more confident with NC looking after my sons
    then JJ . I mean Its just the feeling I get with NC that he promises his
    players parents that they will get an education too

  18. seewhy October 30, 2015 2:06 pm

    RE: st. anthony trojan #10

    No be sorry. Cannot help we frustrated over the program.

  19. st. anthony trojan October 30, 2015 2:33 pm

    North shore… glad he is doing well n making the best what was handed to him…he has many friends here… n will be friends for a long time…

    ‘see why’… always good to be the first one to be sorry…or soon sum will say me ‘pakiki’ head like chow n his best friend FJ… he he he…

    Just want to wish u all a good n happy Halloween there…here it is 2 nite…me will off the lite n hide under mattress…10 million kids here he he he

  20. nutmegger October 30, 2015 2:51 pm

    UH 34 – USAF 27

  21. islandman October 30, 2015 3:10 pm

    12. Donovan was the one that signed Gib’s contact along with Hinshaw. Did he understand the liquidated damages part of that contract or did just sign off on the contract without reading it carefully ? You want him back for the $700,000 outlay to Gib plus the $250,000 spent on a UH outside counsel ? He also spent a lot of UH funds on food and drink for himself and others during his tenure although some say some of that was justified.

  22. Ipu Man October 30, 2015 3:56 pm

    Hawaii does not need 4 and 5 star recruits to beat
    the big name teams. Just ask Chad Owens.

  23. haka October 30, 2015 3:58 pm

    13 – 3Prong, don’t forget, Sundays VB game is a whiteout game; so no wear green now. šŸ™‚

  24. st. anthony trojan October 30, 2015 3:59 pm

    Me cannot speak for Jim on the contract…I believe his signature is just a formality….n not really think he would look at it from an attorneys point of view…

    ACCORDING TO ST…TWO PEOPLE WERE LET go on that deal…one was legal counsel…would never happen at all…if…gib did not warrant an investigation… n present admin did the firing…

    As 4 his food n drink..seen that a few times on here…he sure had the girth to make me a believer…he he he…I guess entertainment is part of that business…n sumone should have been accountable…not after the fact…my gosh…there is no ‘warchdog’ with his spending…like maybe mayor of Hawaii county…

    Me is or was only addressing the hiring part… not the other stuff.. but of course all must be put into the whole picture…but as always…we will never know…

  25. UH HIRING October 30, 2015 4:39 pm

    Mariota was only a 2 star recruit coming our of high school and was really underated. Why cant we just recruit more locally and have a coaching staff with local connections? Hire cal lee, rod york they are more offensive gurus!

  26. papajoe2 October 30, 2015 5:01 pm

    Wouldn’t Gib’s contract be alright for UH if he was fired with cause? NCAA investigation and proof is enough for cause but we got burned by trying to be nice or stupid.

  27. oneseason October 30, 2015 5:18 pm

    #19 … islandman … I read the contract and agree with someone that said the clause gave UH the ability to eject Gib for cheap early (he was at USC when sanctionable stuff went on). IMO, the biggest problem was Ben Jay decided to renew Arnold’s contract in July 2014. Then, it seems, nobody in the UH chain decided to read the contract they just renewed when they decided to terminate Arnold without cause.

  28. Maddog50 October 30, 2015 5:28 pm

    Gonna take a big effort in all 3 phases tomorrow to pull this one off. All of the Falcons victories came at home. They do not pass well at all but do have enough trick plays like double reverse pass to Qb. Their special teams are just okay but we have to have a very special day. Have to and I mean have to get the ball to the check down because they will bring it up the middle and off the corner onD. The challenge is on the OL because should be able to run and pass protect. Not gifted at all but just solid team Academy football. The pitch or sweep is probably biggest threat. Would love to see a tackling effort similar to OSU game. Anyway for the most part it’s on the players to do what they need to do to secure a win. Heard so many times in business “hope is not a plan”. That being said execute and play with a high level of passion and emotion and you are in it. Go Warriors!!!!

  29. z October 30, 2015 5:41 pm

    I think Aranda used a safety to counter option sweep.

  30. z October 30, 2015 5:43 pm

    Donovan was working on getting a deal with MWC but like head coach selection decisions were made by others. I wonder what kind of a deal he would have gotten?

  31. islandman October 30, 2015 5:46 pm

    24. oneseason …I don’t buy that it was done on purpose like that. Hardly anyone is terminated before 1.5 yrs of work. Examples, Bob Nash, Takahara-Dias, Mack, etc. All terminated after a fair trial of 3 or more years. From reading their opinions, Stephen, Dave Reardon and many others believe it was a blunder in the writing of the original contract. Also, the new UH Legal Counsel has said they are setting up new contract drafting controls, so this mistake is not made again.

    Gib was cleared of any USC related sanctions as well as the USC head coach Tim Floyd, who both were hired at other schools shortly after leaving USC. Why would you pay a coach all the that he earned again, if terminated after the mid point of his contract ? Seems like a ridiculous idea.

    I think his contract was automatically extended for one year in 2014, because he won at least 20 games in 2013-14. Ben Jay was going to give him a new contract later, but that was tabled.

  32. Come on, Man! October 30, 2015 5:47 pm

    Andrew: SMU actually did enjoy success under june jones. he brought that team from a laughingstock to a somewhat respectable mid major that made it to postseason play. he also developed players who made it into the NFL, most notably, emmanuel sanders. I don’t think you can attribute JJ leaving and the subsequent collapse of the SMU program to just schematic reasons.

    JJ is NOTHING like norm chow, in terms of offensive philosophy, results on the field, and even coaching style, so you should probably stop comparing the two. yeah, sure, JJ would want to do the run and shoot (although it’s evolved during his time at SMU to include elements of the pistol and the air raid), but EVERY coach has an offensive philosophy. Don’t expect Jim Harbaugh to run the air raid any time soon or Kliff Kingsbury to run the triple option in texas tech.

    I tend to doubt that JJ will come back because what more does he have to prove or gain by coaching UH? The program is a train wreck, and unless he has the passion and drive to turn the thing around like he did in ’99, then he will fail.

    But the reason why fans tend to give JJ the benefit of the doubt (ESPECIALLY over the failure known as Norm Chow)?

    because he’s the winningest coach in UH history.

  33. PONO October 30, 2015 5:57 pm

    AFA 49 – UH 17

  34. SteveM October 30, 2015 6:21 pm

    RE: #29
    Come on, Man — I try to think of reasons why JJ would come back to Hawaii. Probably not for money. While he left for SMU for $2 million a year, he also led them to their first bowl game in 25 years. He came to Hawaii and pulled off the largest won-loss turnaround in NCAA history. ESPN created the Hawaii Bowl and we went undefeated and to the Sugar Bowl. Tough act to follow.

    JJ wanted to sell his Run & Shoot and the Pros were not buying. He left a head coach contract offer by San Diego Chargers to coach Hawaii. Hawaii is a small program but the only game in the state, which makes getting national attention easier. Now everyone is running some version his passing game.

    If he is interested in returning to coach Hawaii, I am guessing it is to attempt a 3rd greatest turnaround and really cement his place in NCAA history. I’ve heard rumors that he has a new offense he would like to prove to the world–but thats only rumor of a rumor. In any event he is the most credible candidate (if interested) for those who think merely changing the Head Coach will return Hawaii to glory. JJ would put curious/hopeful fans in the stands immediately and definitely have ESPN sniffing around here again.

    On the other hand…

  35. islandman October 30, 2015 6:24 pm

    29. … Otto Klum was the winningest coach in UH history 85 wins 46 losses 7 ties in 19 yrs. as coach.

  36. H-Man October 30, 2015 6:43 pm

    JJ (1999-2007) has the most wins with 76 in a 9-year career at Hawaii, but the winning percentage for a Hawaii head football coach goes to Dave Holmes (1968-73) in a 6-year career at 72%. JJ’s wining percentage including bowl games is 65%. Dave Holmes’ best years were in 1970 and 1973 with 9-2 records. In 1973, his last year in Hawaii, his team opened the season beating the Washington Huskies at Seattle, 10-7. He beat Utah at the old Honolulu Stadium, 7-6 to close out the season. I believe a Tsaiko on this blog was part of that 1973 team.

  37. Come on, Man! October 30, 2015 7:02 pm

    Not to demean otto klum’s accomplishments with the Hawaii Fighting Deans, but when I talked about JJ, i meant winningest in the context of Division I football,

    otto klum played before the NCAA even existed with schedules that had more non-college teams (high schools, honolulu athletic club, etc) than college teams. that’s not a knock on him, but it was a MUCH different era.

  38. Akamai Okole October 30, 2015 7:02 pm

    Great Evening All!

    Ground da Zoomies!

  39. Akamai Okole October 30, 2015 7:04 pm

    Mahalo SteveM for consistently tryna coordinate road Warrior functions.

    NE body still tinkin’ about going to watch the UNLV game…Let’s Do This!

  40. Come on, Man! October 30, 2015 7:05 pm

    correction: the NCAA did exist back then but UH wasn’t a part of it.

  41. Shoko October 30, 2015 7:24 pm

    Don’t suppose AF brought the Kuter trophy with them on the flight. Just in case.

    Or is that trophy M.I.A?

  42. Andrew October 30, 2015 7:32 pm


    Yeah as I said he did have success and turned around the program st SMU but as we saw towards the end of his tenure there he was not as successful. im not saying him and chow are the same. I’m simply saying they both had success in the past but it seems that the defenses have caught up and not as much of a surprise as it was in their prime. He could have success again here but I just don’t get how people can say because he had success here in the 2000s that he is for sure going to have success again.

  43. Ipu Man October 30, 2015 8:04 pm

    Pearl Harbor attack tomorrow at 4pm?

  44. kulawarrior October 30, 2015 8:14 pm

    is there a place to sign up to participate in this forum?

  45. Come on, Man! October 30, 2015 8:21 pm

    “Iā€™m simply saying they both had success in the past but it seems that the defenses have caught up and not as much of a surprise as it was in their prime. ”

    idk. i don’t think it’s as simple as “schematically, the offenses don’t work anymore.” there were a lot of factors that went into the SMU program foundering near the end of JJ’s tenure, including recruiting and internal dynamics of the team, the coaches, and the university.

    Chow ball is pretty damn boring, but I don’t think it’s anything schematically that’s causing him to fail (as in “if chow changed his offense and opened it up, points would flow) moreso than him just being a terrible coach.

  46. el burro sabio October 30, 2015 8:22 pm

    The past is never a guarantee of the future.

  47. hitman October 30, 2015 8:55 pm

    aloha everyone !! nice story ST even if win we still pay !!

  48. cappie the dog October 30, 2015 10:16 pm

    When Hawaii baseball played The Citadel, the PA guy played Bruce Springsteen’s “Born in the USA”.

    I wonder if he understood that the song is actually an anti-Vietnam song.

    Leftist ideologue or naif?

    When you hear the song live, you hear the anger.

  49. SteveM October 31, 2015 1:01 am

    Tsai-kos Guess the Score – Week 9
    Scores will be accepted until 11:00 am today.
    Exact score to win.

    UH – AF – Blogger
    10 – 09 = Ipu Man
    24 – 21 = oneseason (first)
    24 – 21 = Tarheel Warrior
    34 – 23 = ML Warrior
    34 – 24 = Tarai
    34 – 27 = nutmegger
    34 – 31 = cappie the dog
    37 – 34 = 3-Prong
    38 – 21 – Rodney
    42 – 38 = greenthumb
    49 – 10 = st. anthony trojan
    49 – 21 = TChahng
    56 – 14 = Akamai Okole

    AF – UH – Blogger
    27 – 24 = Willie
    28 – 15 = FCWarrior
    28 – 27 = alamihi crab
    31 – 24 = DaMenehune
    32 – 18 = Ala Wai
    35 – 17 = Whats up
    35 – 24 = A View From Afar
    49 – 17 = PONO

  50. Makai October 31, 2015 1:01 am

    Air Force 41 – Hawaii 23

  51. ida-HAWAIIANZ October 31, 2015 4:43 am

    All I know da hype was dea for Chow to come to Hawai’i but bad results ever since he came , I tink time for a change, back in da day at BYU, USC is all gone its now! I understand getting shut out by big name schools but tree weeks in a row dat is sad. Hawai’i should be dominate in MWC but as you see they ate not. Yes it was embarrassing to see all these BOISE fans I work with and associate with on off time, but as true Hawai’i fan I smile and press on with life. Time for a coaching change.

  52. DaveLetterMan October 31, 2015 6:11 am

    Morning Tsaikos!
    UH – 27
    AFA – 24
    Go Warriors!

  53. Akamai Okole October 31, 2015 7:12 am

    Great Game Day Morning All!

    Let’s Go Bows!

  54. Inyoface October 31, 2015 7:26 am

    I would like to see Chows all time stats at UH how much points are scored in the first half compared to the second. He has to be the worst halftime adjuster ever. Hopefully the refs give us a break, penalties or lack of calling them are momentum killers. UH 27 AF 24

  55. H-Man October 31, 2015 7:45 am

    Hawaii Athletics/football has a nice article that Kelly McGill is today’s honorary captain. Kelly played on the offensive line from 1991-94; 3-year starter from 92-94. He currently is president and CEO of Grand Pacific Resources.

  56. kulawarrior October 31, 2015 8:11 am

    Is this a private forum, or is there a place to sign in so that I can participate?

  57. kulawarrior October 31, 2015 8:12 am

    every comment I’ve tried to make shows
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    Then the comment is never posted

  58. lawaia October 31, 2015 9:02 am

    Good Luck and Best Wishes. Imua Na Koa Anuenue.

  59. Stephen Tsai October 31, 2015 9:55 am

    New post:

  60. oneseason October 31, 2015 9:57 am

    If this is Saturday, it must be game day.
    Let’s Go Bows!

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