Air extensions

If anyone needs proof of the Warriors’ security in the Mountain West Conference, look to tomorrow’s game against Wyoming.

Per an agreement with the MWC, the Warriors pay a visiting team from the Mountain time zone $175,000 in travel subsidies. The payment is intended for round-trip charter flights.

But UH has no say in how the money is spent. That means UH can’t say, “Hey, Cowboys, we found this great deal on Travelocity …”

Wyoming gets to keep the money and spend it any way it wishes. If it wanted to spend it on commercial flights and pocket the rest, that’s allowed. If it wants to use the money as a down payment on Larry Ellison’s plane, go for it.

In addition, Wyoming qualifies for the “Hawaii exemption,” allowing the Cowboys to book either another home game or play a money game.

The subsidy, actually, is reasonable if treated as an appearance fee. UH pays much more to bring in a non-conference opponent. And it’s part of the attraction of keeping the Warriors in the MWC.

For Wyoming’s part, it did not use the 13th game, despite byes last week and Nov. 15.

And it is flying by charter. The travel roster includes 15 non-football officials.

It is UH’s hope the Paniolo Trophy is part of the checked baggage.


  1. 3-Prong October 10, 2014 6:45 am

    Happy Aloha Friday! This is the week. Go Bows!

  2. Old Diver October 10, 2014 6:47 am

    Travel subsidies was the price of admission. This would not be an issue if the team were winning. Go a Warriors!

  3. Old Diver October 10, 2014 6:48 am

    Umm, victim of auto spell check.

  4. haka October 10, 2014 6:53 am

    Fly’em in and rope’em!
    Go Warriors!

  5. haka October 10, 2014 6:59 am

    A little Hawaiian Cowboy to start the day!

  6. 808 October 10, 2014 7:19 am

    Sounds like a great deal for other MWC teams. Travel cost paid to play in Hawaii. With the WAC sinking fast, of course UH said yes to the MWC when they came calling.

    At the moment there are no complaints from other MWC teams using UH’s subsidies. It’s a gift. What if UH started winning, there probably would be more noise about how difficult it is to travel to Hawaii and play. Everything is fine right now because the past two years UH has been at the bottom of the conference.

    It was probably an interesting meeting with UH and MWC officials when UH first signed:

    MWC officals: “We would like to invite Hawaii football to the MWC?”

    UH officials: “Great, where do we sign.”

    Interesting article. Thanks!

  7. A-House October 10, 2014 7:29 am


    mahalo to Earl for his “coupon” contribution to the Na Wahine basketball team!!


    I have visited San Francisco 7 or 8 times since 1964 – first was the Greyhound Bus terminal to go to Fort Ord for basic training; second, to the airport to Fort Devens, Mass after basic; 3 times for stops to and from Reno; another for stopover going to Arkansas for summer camp in 1972; and last returning from Houston.

    Each time it was a pit stop and never to visit the city – someday, we will be there to see the 49ers play in the new stadium.

  8. Boolakanaka October 10, 2014 7:33 am

    Aloha all. Catching the train from boola u to DC this morning, and ran into a group of 15 seniors from Hawai’i taking a tour of the NE enjoying the fall colors.

    Always good too see folks from home and share some laughs….

  9. hatakeman October 10, 2014 7:38 am

    I agree with Old Diver. I think enough has been said about this topic. Let’s focus on the game and winning. Go Bows!!! Oh yeah, just want to thank Michael Carter for returning to Hawaii to be tomorrow’s honorary captain.

  10. Hilo-Warrior October 10, 2014 7:39 am

    Good morning everybody,

    Do we know what the status of our QB’s are? Haven’t had a chance to catch up the last few days.

    Also does anyone know the status of Joey?

    I feel a win coming on and I am really big on Taylor Graham. I am hoping that he gets his shot this weekend.

    If he does I see us winning bigger than if we had Woolsey.

    34-7 with Graham
    17-7 with Woolsey

  11. tom October 10, 2014 7:41 am


  12. Stephen Tsai October 10, 2014 7:56 am

    Every time I think of you on a train ride, it reminds me of the HBO story on Sports Illustrated’s Peter King. He writes most of his Monday Morning Quarterback column on train rides.

  13. Stephen Tsai October 10, 2014 7:56 am

    Of course, I also think of Sheldon from the “Big Bang Theory” on train rides.

  14. Old School Dave October 10, 2014 8:12 am

    Wyoming head coach is all business. – hard nosed, defensive background, who played and coached at Nebraska. No sightseeing on this trip to Hawaii. Arrive, practice, play game, depart for the mainland (“Back to the real world” as a former visiting coach said).

  15. Former UH Athlete October 10, 2014 8:16 am

    Too bad UH wasn’t able to negotiate a revenue split from the additional game MWC teams get from of the “Hawaii Exemption”. Then UH could recoup some lost money with the other team’s extra home game or maybe profit should the other team get paid big bucks should they elect to travel to a major power school.

    Likely, nobody on UH’s side thought of using the “Hawaii Exemption Game” as a negotiating tool. UH probably just took it in the pants and accepted any kind offer from the MWC knowing the WAC was going down in flames and no other viable conference destinations.

  16. Boolakanaka October 10, 2014 8:27 am

    ST-the irony is that I always pray that someone like Sheldon does not sit next to me. Nothing more irritating than someone yapping at you when you’re trying to make blog banter …

  17. Shoko October 10, 2014 8:30 am

    I think if Hawaii had stayed in the WAC, San Jose State, Utah State, La Tech and New Mexico State and Idaho would still be in the WAC along with the additions of North Texas, Texas State and Texas-San Antonio.

    Not to mention, the other sports would still be in the WAC and wouldn’t have to pay the Big West travel subsidies either. I think there was a lot of panic going on after the announcement of Fresno State and Nevada leaving the conference.

  18. Former UH Athlete October 10, 2014 8:39 am

    Just a random funny thought from a twisted mind…

    Had UH opted to go independent a few years ago, and whenever the next contract year with Aloha Stadium Authority, UH could threaten to schedule all road games other than the home games scheduled years in advance.

    1. UH could probably balance the athletic department budget (or get very close) by playing nothing but paid appearance road games;

    2. UH would strengthen their side in negotiations vs Aloha Stadium. Fewer home games = less revenue for Aloha Stadium. In exchange for maintaining a full home schedule, UH would use that to try to gain a revenue share from parking, food/bev, rent from the vendors, and advertising that UH hasn’t received a penny from over the years. That’s in addition to UH paying Aloha Stadium somewhere in the $50k-$80k range per game. Why play home games if the revenue sucks and attendance is already low?; and,

    3. By playing all road games, UH would have more negotiating power during their next TV /pay-per-view deal. Road games = more PPV opportunities for Oceanic (not counting national tv games). More PPV buys is more revenue for Oceanic to split with UH. PPV has already cannibalized attendance over the past decade, so playing more road games is financially sound for UH.

    UH is not independent so Point #1 is not valid at this time.

    Points #2 & #3 are something UH could actually execute now by only playing required MWC home games and play everything else on the road.

    Should UH acquire a better contracts, UH could return to a full home schedule knowing the revenue would be up to standard. Hopefully the team is back to winning games by that time (which would be tougher with more road games).

    Sorry for the rambling, but this thought got more interesting as I thought about it.

  19. Former UH Athlete October 10, 2014 8:47 am

    Forgot to mention the most ridiculous point about the whole UH – Aloha Stadium Authority issue…


  20. Ipu Man October 10, 2014 8:51 am

    Hope the cowboys get chance to swim at our beaches.
    And lurk at our girls.
    And lolly gag around.
    Maybe visit China Town.
    And climb Diamond Head.
    And sleep a lot…especially during the game.

  21. tom-warriornation October 10, 2014 8:58 am

    we now have over 300 Hawaii fans at the SDSU game on Oct. 18 sitting behind our Warrior bench; 10-20 rows behind (first 10 rows are vacant) from the 50-20 yard lines including the families of Kody Afusia, Tyler Hadden, Malachi Mageo, TJ Tamatuia, Simon Poti & Ruben Guzman.
    Come join us by texting me at 415-324-0585. GO WARRIORS!

  22. st. anthony trojan October 10, 2014 9:37 am

    Interesting thought ‘Former’….me always thought being independent would have been a better choice at that time.

    Schedule of teams would not be that difficult at the start, n even sum Div II teams would be acceptable…n the service academies could work out every year. We could rotate Army, Navy, Air Force for a game to be played in Japan every year. But games with the 3 takes up 25% of the schedule.

    Me still thinks if used properly n done right, there should not be to much of a problem filling out the schedule for football. Other sports maybe a problem. However the lure to our Islands to potential teams in other sports, surely could be worked out. I can’t imagine ne team in midwest n east not wanting to have us on their schedule during the winter months there.

    Although the 16 hour time difference between Japan and California …is maybe kinda difficult to overcome for TV….surely it could be worked out.

    With your thoughts ‘Former’ be an interesting subject to work on maybe in the future.

  23. bowwar October 10, 2014 9:53 am

    Nothing would make me happier than to see “our Hawaiian cowboy” take the opening kick-off and take it to the corral…

    Let’s just win…Imua Warriors!!

  24. SailorBlue October 10, 2014 10:09 am

    Kawika49 ~ A big MAHALO for the sheckles. They are great appreciated and will be put to good use. Hopefully you can make it over from the Big Island and join us next year at a tgate. Cheers, SB

  25. kawika49 October 10, 2014 10:30 am

    No Problema, It was either you, or the Cocobean; Kalamungai fund. The Squids won.


  26. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 10, 2014 10:32 am

    With Graham starting this Saturday, I see us pulling out a win.

    28-14 Hawaii.

    Yes, I am actually picking Hawaii to win. Which means it will happen.

    Go Bows!

  27. Trunks420 October 10, 2014 10:33 am

    Be careful at The San Diego Game those darn Aztec Fans owe me a Black Bulldog Towel.

    Some lame Aztec fan behind me grabbed my towel and threw it few section in front of me to other Aztec fan’s.

    Just Because I was Cheering on my Bulldogs Defense

    Aztec fan’s are poor sport fan’s

  28. Trunks420 October 10, 2014 10:35 am

    Just glad my team won that game and is first in west division

  29. Turfwar October 10, 2014 10:54 am

    FUHA After following BYU’s recent contract signings with no-name schools just to fill out a independent schedule I’m convince that is just not the way to go. Last night they travel cross country to play Central Florida only to lose in overtime. And guess what. Nobody cares. No conference championship, no all conference recognition, fans can’t relate to opponents, recently signed contracts to play home and home with UMass and South Florida. They’ll be back in the MWC soon enough. Fans are very upset at the future of the team.

  30. SteveM October 10, 2014 11:38 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Yup, bring back the Paniolo trophy for an indefinite stay in Hawaii!

  31. kawika49 October 10, 2014 11:53 am

    My guess UH 33 them 10
    Please no postem, no like jinxem.

  32. Bryson October 10, 2014 12:18 pm

    I think if Hawaii were to go Indy we should schedule a body bag schedule…Play the top teams make some money for the program to get it into the green then find a conference to become a part of again…I mean record wise we wouldn’t be any worse off then we currently are and by bringing in big name teams we could boost attendance…kidding of course or am I?

  33. Derek October 10, 2014 12:59 pm

    I see our team with questions? Lots of questions. Can the QB produce, whoever it is? Can we play solid enough with a mininum of turnovers and penalties? Can we prevent big plays by Wyoming? Can we score touchdowns instead of settling for field goals? I wonder if the coaches and the team believes deep down that they can win. And the fans. Do the fans, really believe we are going to win or are we just hoping and wishing that we will win. Winning is contagious, but so is losing. We have won, but it was against an FCS team. I really think it’s a mental game and playing as a team and making the cruicial plays. We seem to find a way to lose a ball game because of a couple of critical plays. Conversely, we have to find a way to make those plays that helps us to win a ball game. We are competitive with everybody, and when you come down to it there is one glaring problem, we don’t have a QB who can give us the hope. When Colt was playing, we felt like we would win every game. Chow should be recruiting 3 QBs for next year, 2 JCs, and one freshman. Then again, he might not be around after this season.

    I got Wyoming 20, Hawaii 13. The lone touchdown will be by the defense or special teams.

  34. nutmegger October 10, 2014 1:33 pm

    Wasn’t Colt’s motto “Believe”?
    Could use a little of that now.
    UH 9 – Wyoming 3

  35. Old School Dave October 10, 2014 1:43 pm

    Sounding like a broken record, but they should establish a State Lottery, with the proceeds going to fix the schools and build a new stadium down the road. No need casino gambling, as many cities on the mainland with them are in financial plight.

    Univ of Wyoming has some impressive facilities. Interesting that the State of Wyoming has no state personal or corporate income tax, just a sales tax. Royalties form extractive industries (oil and minning) go fund the majority of the state’s expenses. Local property taxes largely fund education there (facilities and teachers pay). State Legislators are paid only for when in session and there is no Lt. Governor. State overhead expenses are quite low in a fiscally conservative state.

  36. st. anthony trojan October 10, 2014 2:17 pm

    the ‘bombs’ has been killing our defense…
    if that does happen again this game…we are dead meat all over again..
    as our defense will spend more time then usual on defense..
    and if we have more then normal 3 and outs…the cowboys will be riding a ‘old nag’
    and not a ‘bucking bronco’ with a win on the way home..heaven forbid…

  37. kawika49 October 10, 2014 2:17 pm

    You wiggly water guys, the check is in the mail.

  38. hon2255 October 10, 2014 2:26 pm

    what a rip off, send the Wyoming team back to the mainland on Allegiant Air!

  39. kawika49 October 10, 2014 2:29 pm

    Great idea, norevenue thisssss weekend, No one wins, we all lose. A deal is a deal. our word is your word.

  40. sofaking_blk October 10, 2014 2:40 pm

    #33…..It doesn’t matter if the QB produces, we don’t have WRs who can catch the ball.

  41. islandman October 10, 2014 3:00 pm

    34.– UH beat BYU with 5 FG’s 15-13, in 1974 .

  42. kawika49 October 10, 2014 3:30 pm

    Why di my comments get exed

  43. kawika49 October 10, 2014 3:32 pm

    I was talking about the background, people and what they do.

  44. jimmy the lock October 10, 2014 3:32 pm




  45. jimmy the lock October 10, 2014 3:34 pm

    Like America’s Got Talent, you got X’d. 😆

  46. Old School Dave October 10, 2014 3:35 pm

    #39: Reinhold Stuprich

  47. Fei Jai October 10, 2014 3:49 pm

    Run and gun. Awesome.

    Chow get the run and punt. Ouch.

  48. cocobean October 10, 2014 3:54 pm

    #41. What you talkin’ stink about me again? Me and the guy with the delete button buddy buddy. Naah, just kidn’.

    I’m hoping the team comes through tomorrow. Not only for themselves but for their coach. The game should be a temporary sanctuary for Chow to take his mind off of the turmoil in his personal life. A win would go a long way in easing his pain.

  49. cocobean October 10, 2014 4:51 pm

    BTW. I saw the 4th quarter of the Northern Iowa game on OC16. I focused only on the TE. Moleni is a valuable cog in the running game. He’s a sixth lineman. He blocked straight ahead. He helped the RT with double teams. He pulled to his left then cut toward the center of the line to block.

    In the passing game for that Q he was again like a 6th lineman. He was responsible along with the RT to protect that edge. He help double team the DE or pickup any blitzer. In the 4th UH didn’t throw or complete too many passes any way. What I also noticed was when there was only one rusher he’d block the rusher towards the RT and let the rt take over the block. A couple times he was left standing by himself watching the RT finishing the block. I thought man the guy is wide open. Didn’t seem like any LB or DB was responsible for him if he showed block. He could easily have been a safety valve or last read if he and the QB were told so.

  50. cocobean October 10, 2014 4:58 pm

    Damn it just dawned on me UH is a left handed passing team. Most of the completions and targets have been to the left. They rarely pass to their right unless the QB rolls that way. I wonder if the defenses have been stacking it that way.

  51. oneseason October 10, 2014 5:00 pm

    A win against Wyoming seems easily within reach. While CBS Sports has the Warriors ranked #119 of #128 Div IA teams, Fresno St was in the bottom 25 last week and is now #85 (and leading our division). Wyoming is #71 , so a big bump (for a poll that is admittedly meaningless) would be a nice boost for the team. Let Go Bows!

  52. whitey October 10, 2014 5:03 pm

    scratch win against UNLV. right now they are giving it to Fresno State 17-0

  53. 3-Prong October 10, 2014 5:08 pm

    Pau Hana Time. Tirsty O Wat? Whose In?

    Go Wahine and Warriors!

  54. 3-Prong October 10, 2014 5:13 pm

    …and Go Cats and Cowboys (and I don’t mean Wyoming!)

  55. Ipu Man October 10, 2014 5:20 pm

    Wyoming will probably air it out tomorrow.
    Lots of pass attempts…long ones.
    Hope they have short WR’s…and tight ends.

  56. islandman October 10, 2014 7:28 pm

    Wahine got bombed out in volleyball by CSUN. Can football turn this losing around ?

  57. hatakeman October 10, 2014 8:55 pm

    I feel the same about UNLV – I thought they were the team Hawaii could beat but it doesn’t look that way. But maybe I judge too soon. Gotta see what Warriors do tomorrow against Wyoming. In any case UNLV offense generated 478 offensive yards behind QB Whitely on 29/40 passing for 332 yards.

  58. Tiki808 October 10, 2014 10:52 pm

    $175,000 dollars to Wyoming is a lot if Norm Chow is paying it. I still pick Wyoming in this MWC game. Hawai’i don’t look to good offensively, and even if Graham did go in to play, it is still no guarantee Hawai’i will win.

  59. Tiki808 October 10, 2014 11:14 pm

    Aloha Stadium 6 p.m. Saturday night. What is Norm Chow thinking? TV subscribers are low. Why? No where else to go. Oceanic cable is the only provider. Rich? yes!

  60. Tiki808 October 10, 2014 11:29 pm

    Example of who Norm Chow is? Many people watch sports and they remember many names coaches included. For example in 1996, do you remember anyone named Jason Ross playing for UH baseball? I’ve never heard of the man and never knew he played baseball. Norm Chow is like this man. Some may never hear of Norm Chow or never will hear of him ever. My point is TV subscribers is the only avenue to getting the games across the public state and national coverage. How good are they? 1-4 this year going into tomorrow’s game. I’m listening it on the radio. 1420 AM ESPN station.

  61. Tiki808 October 11, 2014 12:00 am

    I’ve never heard of KIF. I graduated from Pearl City High School Mustangs in 1986. Wrong guy!

  62. Tiki808 October 11, 2014 12:14 am

    There is a side road going into Hawaiian Brians. I think they are all done for the night at 12 a.m. I see a lot of people coming out. 1770 Kapiolani Blvd is the address. All the high school students above are there. I think UH football is another avenue kids can take to a better outlook if they’re good enough. Norm Chow looks at it this way. Left or right?

  63. beans October 11, 2014 12:21 am

    Chow, I’m in!
    We are O-O in conference play. NOW WE GO!
    I’ll be there cheering our boys. Good things are going to happen if we execute.

    Punahou looked awesome again tonight. Good players and good coaching. Maybe one of the best high school teams in Hawaii ever?

  64. Tiki808 October 11, 2014 12:34 am

    My guess $7.75/hour still yet working at a scummy store called Shiro’s or something like that. I’m in there with my old high school Pearl City Mustangs. Hang loose or get real? Stay there and take it like a man or just be him. He went on to move to the mainland and never came back. Wo! I’ll be watching tomorrow’s game. Why is Jason Ross so important anyway? curious? Shaka, stay cool braddah!

  65. leron October 11, 2014 1:40 am

    I remember Jason Ross. Came to UH on a football scholie then ended up playing baseball full time and got drafted. His daughter Kyla was a member of the 2012 USA gold medal gymnastics team .

  66. Shoko October 11, 2014 5:22 am

    I would say Fresno State turning over the ball three times made the Rebels look impressive last night. Chow still has time to get the quarterback situation resolved by the time they show up!

    Hoping the DEFENSE executes to perfection and carries the offense.

  67. d1shima October 11, 2014 5:26 am

    Great Morning All!

    Whew! Flew back from Lost Wages last night

    …and boy are my arms tired. (pah-tum-boom)

    But a new “arm” for Hawaii will throw a big lasso to tie up the Paniolo Trophy!

    Let’s Go Bows!

  68. d1shima October 11, 2014 5:31 am

    A-house (actually, Mrs. A-house and midori7),

    We can make this happen…

    me and #1 son going be in SFO for the regular season finale (might be a “playoff game”)at Levi Stadium then the SF Bowl two days later.

    Airfares are pretty good… we go!

  69. UHfan808 October 11, 2014 6:30 am

    Good morning, Tsai-kos!! 🙂

    Game day has finally arrived! Yahooooo!!! :mrgreen:

  70. mo808 October 11, 2014 8:13 am

    Good morning, folks!

    IT’s GAME DAY!



  71. gobows October 11, 2014 8:32 am

    isnt that kalaheo mustangs and pearl city chargers…

    Kif is the oia of kauai

  72. Stephen Tsai October 11, 2014 8:32 am

    Yes, I overslept (clearing out the DVR last night).
    But it’s game day, baby, so let’s head over to this post:
    And bring along the ding-ding-ding. I misplaced mine.

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