Team leaves later today.
Will check back later after they get on the bus
COMMENTS
nomu
November 4, 2015 10:51 am
Menehune, thanks again. We’ll take your advice and hang out. Maybe check out some of the shopping along the way too. As always, look forward to these trips and can’t wait.
frings
November 4, 2015 11:22 am
Good luck Wahine on your long and winding road trip.
turfwar
November 4, 2015 1:06 pm
Charlie might have just received a commitment from junior Jackson Van Ekeren a 6’5″ setter out of Chicago with some national team experience. His video looks pretty good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWGkIUYa3vo
Warriorfan
November 4, 2015 1:31 pm
Thanks turfwar Jackson is actually a senior class of 2016 recruit
Juniors are 2017. Charlie is killing it recruiting wise. Jackson, Jack Reese, Austin Matautia and Everette Schuett make a pretty solid class after this past years monster class and I read on volleytalk the top player in the 2017 class named Joel Schneidmiller is interested in Hawaii
Cindy Luis
November 4, 2015 5:44 pm
Warriors will be at The Beach supposed for Wahine match as they are at SC, UCLA and Pepperdine for some preseason matches. Not sure who else they are playing. All Jennings said is they are playing a lot of volleyball this week.
Tsai’s more up on the recruits but he is heading out to UNLV with football
Just a thought…what was the reason TMO changed here serving?
I looked at one of the past game stats and it said that she had 5 Aces to 15 Service Errors….This was a couple of games back.
My question is…if her serving is so bad why doesn’t Dave just let her Grip N Rip It?
I mean what is there to lose?….She might start a spark with a few rips….And like Bruce sings “you can’t a fire without a spark.”
Just wondering.
Thanks…and no forget it is squid season now…so get those squid for the holiday feasts.
pokesquid
November 4, 2015 6:42 pm
edit..
And like Bruce sings “you can’t start a fire without a spark.”
noblesol
November 4, 2015 7:09 pm
#7, PSqd. Tai has been serving great. Her whole game has improved. Nothing to mess with it. Nuf said.
pokesquid
November 4, 2015 7:20 pm
9.
A few game back her stats was 5 Aces to 15 Errors…and this was way after she already changed to flat footed serving…After seeing that she still had many serving errors at flat foot serving didn’t Dave just let her back to ripping it on the serves?…Obviously, flat foot serving didn’t better her stats at the service line…And by letting her do what she is best known to do, which is bringing the heat…it could have led to more sweeps or more outs…Whatevers.
That is my question to Cindy.
'ohanaInBellingham
November 4, 2015 7:38 pm
Great scoops, turfwar and Warriorfan!
Cindy Luis
November 4, 2015 8:25 pm
no idea why the change other than the coaches have players, not just TMO, serving areas or targeting the weakest passer on the opposing team. They wanted to serve short in some matches to disrupt passing, which is hard to do if you’re ripping a serve. you may have noticed them with high lob on Sunday.
Not sure why it’s an issue or why it matters.
you can always look up the team stats through hawaiiathleteics.com and you can click on individual players to see what they do match by match.
Cindy Luis
November 4, 2015 8:29 pm
Beach finishes off the sweep at Fullerton, 25-13, 25-17, 25-18.
Wilson back to liboro, 15 digs.
808
November 4, 2015 8:35 pm
Tai has never had 15 service errors in one match this year. She hasn’t even had 5 aces in one match this year. On the year, unless I’m reading the stats wrong, it looks like she has 15 service aces and 21 service errors, total.
isles
November 4, 2015 9:07 pm
there was nothing wrong with tais serve, period.
yeah i like to see her toss it up and spin it but if accuracy is specific target area is needed a flat foot deep float lob is the way to do it. theres no way its hitting the net and since its deep, you practically hit it as hard as you like and it wouldnt go long. though you want to get down your serve where it goes straight ahead.
btw cindy na wahine make la safely and no redeye? no plane problems? no awful nonsense cause by person(s) manifesting the flight itinerary?
pokesquid
November 4, 2015 10:24 pm
14..
It wasn’t in one match…it was a TV shot of her stats that I am referring too.
And it is not an issue…I was just wondering because based on her stats it just seems like nothing to lose and possibly something to gain if she just let em rip…like Taylor and Taylor does.
I understand about ball placement and such…but you can do that with the other girls…which I am sure they do…But since TMO has the ability to rip it..then I say let her cause based on the stats…again nothing to lose but something in way of a spark my start a fire…Who knows.
15…Relax…I am not trying to criticize her…And again it is not an issue, I was just wondering…and I know about what you are saying.
Incomplete: check the service errors by Higgins and Nikki. However it is good that having 1 or 2 jump servers does help to mix it up.
If Shoji was to play certain percentages based on statistics in the post season that may give the team better odds to go further. Example the number of block Kendra has accomplished in way less games and minutes compared to Higgins.
'ohanaInBellingham
November 5, 2015 6:29 am
Creideamh, Nikki and Co.!
Doug
November 5, 2015 7:42 am
Best blocking team in the nation? Yes, because of the big West opponents. But Watch Pac12 and BTN teams, reality check time. Sorry folks.
tako
November 5, 2015 9:00 am
Felt compelled to jump on this one. I am a U of H fan. And do NOT feel the need to view the Pac12 or others. This team did not lobby for the accolade, they earned it and NOT just ONLY ’cause BW opponents. JMO, this team is 20-1 and earned every win. Hoping for more and that’s the focus, not looking to make apologies for things accomplished. As a fan based blog, recommend looking for ways to support the team. Long Beach will be a tough BW match. -Go Wahine
Cindy Luis
November 5, 2015 9:54 am
20. agree with 21. their blocking stats not only based on BWC matches. to mention the Pac-12 or BTen is meaningless because there is no way to make a true comparison.
UH is averaging 3.43 bps overall, 3.75 bps in Big West, which got lowered when having just 4.5 against Fullerton.
tongo
November 5, 2015 2:55 pm
#20 Yeah, I think most of us know that blocking success is relative to the competition. Nevertheless, blocking is a strong cornerstone and they will have their fair share of success even against the bigger/stronger hitters from Pac 12 or B10. IMO, our blocking success will depend a lot on our serving, which has been good this year. In either case, will be attending both matches and expecting a large UH fan base to show up.
Doug
November 5, 2015 3:09 pm
I am a die hard Wahine fan also. Lobby for Kendra to play more, sad when Megan left. Big and good always beats small and good. sorry.
Maverick
November 5, 2015 3:32 pm
20-23. Tongo is right on the money. I think that Doug was trying to provide context around the “best blocking team” label (even Cindy’s counterpoint is supportive of Doug’s comment). So let’s look at a more complete set of blocking stats comparing UH and Penn State across non-conference (N), conference (C) and all (A) opponents (figures are for total blocks, total sets played and blocks/set):
UH
N 126.0, 40, 3.15
C 127.5, 34, 3.75
A 253.5, 74, 3.43
PSU
N 113.0, 33, 3.39
C 139.0, 46, 3.02
A 252.0, 79, 3.19
At the conclusion of the non-conference season, PSU has more blocks/set than UH. UH played a tougher non-conf schedule, evidenced in part by its 75th ranked non-conf SOS versus PSU’s 146th ranked non-conf SOS. Also, UH played more sets non-conf than PSU (who swept all their non-con matches while UH played 5 four-set matches and one five-setter), indicating relatively more difficult schedule of opponents (you can also review PSU’s non-con opponents to see the only good team they played was Stanford). I believe UH was ranked in the top 10 of blocking teams by the end of the non-con schedule, but PSU was higher.
However, once the conference season began, PSU’s opponents were more difficult and UH’s were less difficult. This is shown by the dramatic rise in UH’s blk/set and the decrease in PSU’s (and the eye test of opponents in the respective conferences). Clearly, UH was playing shorter, less challenging teams than in the preseason, and PSU was playing taller, better teams. Now UH is the leading blocking team but PSU is still #3.
So the stats support what I believe Doug was trying to say, but also tango’s view that UH is a strong blocking team despite playing Big West opponents.
The more interesting debate is what does it mean to be the “best blocking team”? Not necessarily the team that has the most blocks/set, because competition plays a big part in that statistic. For example, if 20-1 Arkansas State had the highest blk/set stat, many people would challenge the idea that ARSt. is the best blocking team based on who they played (you’d see a lot of, “wait until they play a Pac12/Big10 opponent”). I don’t have a good answer for who is the “best” blocking team is (I guess it would help if all teams played each other, but that is impractical), but maybe another blog poster does.
tongo
November 5, 2015 3:53 pm
CSUN athletics show their Men Soccer Team having a match going on Saturday night also. Maybe, UH can catch a little break this year – hoping most of the students go to the soccer match instead. For whatever reason, our ladies do not play well in that small gym – but this year will be different. We are going to revenge last year’s loss there.
tako
November 5, 2015 5:34 pm
All things being even, good and big normally prevails, however, reality spells otherwise. The equalizing factor or the separator is how do you measure, character, heart and Aloha, how do these factors translate into wins. IMO, we are blessed to have a great Coach and players that possess the intangibles that factored in so many exciting down to the wire wins over so many decades. Many a time we were the smaller and good team that went beyond. Loved the character, heart and Aloha of players like the Emily Hartongs and the Tais of this world…they are great role models for the next generation of Wahine. -go bows
Doug
November 5, 2015 6:12 pm
#21-27# thank you, great insight and points of view.
Go wahines!
Cindy Luis
November 5, 2015 6:24 pm
good points all but the bottom line is stats are stats. good for comparison and discussion
But the only stat that matters is W-L
Menehune, thanks again. We’ll take your advice and hang out. Maybe check out some of the shopping along the way too. As always, look forward to these trips and can’t wait.
Good luck Wahine on your long and winding road trip.
Charlie might have just received a commitment from junior Jackson Van Ekeren a 6’5″ setter out of Chicago with some national team experience. His video looks pretty good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWGkIUYa3vo
Thanks turfwar Jackson is actually a senior class of 2016 recruit
Juniors are 2017. Charlie is killing it recruiting wise. Jackson, Jack Reese, Austin Matautia and Everette Schuett make a pretty solid class after this past years monster class and I read on volleytalk the top player in the 2017 class named Joel Schneidmiller is interested in Hawaii
Warriors will be at The Beach supposed for Wahine match as they are at SC, UCLA and Pepperdine for some preseason matches. Not sure who else they are playing. All Jennings said is they are playing a lot of volleyball this week.
Tsai’s more up on the recruits but he is heading out to UNLV with football
BTW, Burns on the road trip as a practice player.
8) Nebraska def. 16) Purdue 30-28, 25-20, 25-17
17) Florida State lost to Miami-FL 25-20, 23-25, 26-28, 14-25
18) Illinois def. Northwestern 25-18, 26-28, 21-25, 25-16, 16-14
32) Texas A&M def. 30) Missouri 27-25, 25-23, 25-23
Long Beach State up 2-0 on CSU Fullerton
Cindy,
Just a thought…what was the reason TMO changed here serving?
I looked at one of the past game stats and it said that she had 5 Aces to 15 Service Errors….This was a couple of games back.
My question is…if her serving is so bad why doesn’t Dave just let her Grip N Rip It?
I mean what is there to lose?….She might start a spark with a few rips….And like Bruce sings “you can’t a fire without a spark.”
Just wondering.
Thanks…and no forget it is squid season now…so get those squid for the holiday feasts.
edit..
And like Bruce sings “you can’t start a fire without a spark.”
#7, PSqd. Tai has been serving great. Her whole game has improved. Nothing to mess with it. Nuf said.
9.
A few game back her stats was 5 Aces to 15 Errors…and this was way after she already changed to flat footed serving…After seeing that she still had many serving errors at flat foot serving didn’t Dave just let her back to ripping it on the serves?…Obviously, flat foot serving didn’t better her stats at the service line…And by letting her do what she is best known to do, which is bringing the heat…it could have led to more sweeps or more outs…Whatevers.
That is my question to Cindy.
Great scoops, turfwar and Warriorfan!
no idea why the change other than the coaches have players, not just TMO, serving areas or targeting the weakest passer on the opposing team. They wanted to serve short in some matches to disrupt passing, which is hard to do if you’re ripping a serve. you may have noticed them with high lob on Sunday.
Not sure why it’s an issue or why it matters.
you can always look up the team stats through hawaiiathleteics.com and you can click on individual players to see what they do match by match.
Beach finishes off the sweep at Fullerton, 25-13, 25-17, 25-18.
Wilson back to liboro, 15 digs.
Tai has never had 15 service errors in one match this year. She hasn’t even had 5 aces in one match this year. On the year, unless I’m reading the stats wrong, it looks like she has 15 service aces and 21 service errors, total.
there was nothing wrong with tais serve, period.
yeah i like to see her toss it up and spin it but if accuracy is specific target area is needed a flat foot deep float lob is the way to do it. theres no way its hitting the net and since its deep, you practically hit it as hard as you like and it wouldnt go long. though you want to get down your serve where it goes straight ahead.
btw cindy na wahine make la safely and no redeye? no plane problems? no awful nonsense cause by person(s) manifesting the flight itinerary?
14..
It wasn’t in one match…it was a TV shot of her stats that I am referring too.
And it is not an issue…I was just wondering because based on her stats it just seems like nothing to lose and possibly something to gain if she just let em rip…like Taylor and Taylor does.
I understand about ball placement and such…but you can do that with the other girls…which I am sure they do…But since TMO has the ability to rip it..then I say let her cause based on the stats…again nothing to lose but something in way of a spark my start a fire…Who knows.
15…Relax…I am not trying to criticize her…And again it is not an issue, I was just wondering…and I know about what you are saying.
Go Wahines!
pokesquid your ink may be clouding your adding.
Not sure when she started her flat foot floater serves.
For your information Oleavao’s serving flat foot floater has been awesome.
One thing I know for certain she already had 11 service errors in the first 5 games
and 3 aces and this was when she was doing her jump serves.
Thereafter she has had 10 service errors and 12 aces in the next 16 games.
Being UH is the best blocking team in the nation decreasing the teams overall service errors will give them greater chances of winning.
Olevao going flat footed floater has benefit her overall play and concentration and this gives the team a better chance to win. Higgins and Nikki
Incomplete: check the service errors by Higgins and Nikki. However it is good that having 1 or 2 jump servers does help to mix it up.
If Shoji was to play certain percentages based on statistics in the post season that may give the team better odds to go further. Example the number of block Kendra has accomplished in way less games and minutes compared to Higgins.
Creideamh, Nikki and Co.!
Best blocking team in the nation? Yes, because of the big West opponents. But Watch Pac12 and BTN teams, reality check time. Sorry folks.
Felt compelled to jump on this one. I am a U of H fan. And do NOT feel the need to view the Pac12 or others. This team did not lobby for the accolade, they earned it and NOT just ONLY ’cause BW opponents. JMO, this team is 20-1 and earned every win. Hoping for more and that’s the focus, not looking to make apologies for things accomplished. As a fan based blog, recommend looking for ways to support the team. Long Beach will be a tough BW match. -Go Wahine
20. agree with 21. their blocking stats not only based on BWC matches. to mention the Pac-12 or BTen is meaningless because there is no way to make a true comparison.
UH is averaging 3.43 bps overall, 3.75 bps in Big West, which got lowered when having just 4.5 against Fullerton.
#20 Yeah, I think most of us know that blocking success is relative to the competition. Nevertheless, blocking is a strong cornerstone and they will have their fair share of success even against the bigger/stronger hitters from Pac 12 or B10. IMO, our blocking success will depend a lot on our serving, which has been good this year. In either case, will be attending both matches and expecting a large UH fan base to show up.
I am a die hard Wahine fan also. Lobby for Kendra to play more, sad when Megan left. Big and good always beats small and good. sorry.
20-23. Tongo is right on the money. I think that Doug was trying to provide context around the “best blocking team” label (even Cindy’s counterpoint is supportive of Doug’s comment). So let’s look at a more complete set of blocking stats comparing UH and Penn State across non-conference (N), conference (C) and all (A) opponents (figures are for total blocks, total sets played and blocks/set):
UH
N 126.0, 40, 3.15
C 127.5, 34, 3.75
A 253.5, 74, 3.43
PSU
N 113.0, 33, 3.39
C 139.0, 46, 3.02
A 252.0, 79, 3.19
At the conclusion of the non-conference season, PSU has more blocks/set than UH. UH played a tougher non-conf schedule, evidenced in part by its 75th ranked non-conf SOS versus PSU’s 146th ranked non-conf SOS. Also, UH played more sets non-conf than PSU (who swept all their non-con matches while UH played 5 four-set matches and one five-setter), indicating relatively more difficult schedule of opponents (you can also review PSU’s non-con opponents to see the only good team they played was Stanford). I believe UH was ranked in the top 10 of blocking teams by the end of the non-con schedule, but PSU was higher.
However, once the conference season began, PSU’s opponents were more difficult and UH’s were less difficult. This is shown by the dramatic rise in UH’s blk/set and the decrease in PSU’s (and the eye test of opponents in the respective conferences). Clearly, UH was playing shorter, less challenging teams than in the preseason, and PSU was playing taller, better teams. Now UH is the leading blocking team but PSU is still #3.
So the stats support what I believe Doug was trying to say, but also tango’s view that UH is a strong blocking team despite playing Big West opponents.
The more interesting debate is what does it mean to be the “best blocking team”? Not necessarily the team that has the most blocks/set, because competition plays a big part in that statistic. For example, if 20-1 Arkansas State had the highest blk/set stat, many people would challenge the idea that ARSt. is the best blocking team based on who they played (you’d see a lot of, “wait until they play a Pac12/Big10 opponent”). I don’t have a good answer for who is the “best” blocking team is (I guess it would help if all teams played each other, but that is impractical), but maybe another blog poster does.
CSUN athletics show their Men Soccer Team having a match going on Saturday night also. Maybe, UH can catch a little break this year – hoping most of the students go to the soccer match instead. For whatever reason, our ladies do not play well in that small gym – but this year will be different. We are going to revenge last year’s loss there.
All things being even, good and big normally prevails, however, reality spells otherwise. The equalizing factor or the separator is how do you measure, character, heart and Aloha, how do these factors translate into wins. IMO, we are blessed to have a great Coach and players that possess the intangibles that factored in so many exciting down to the wire wins over so many decades. Many a time we were the smaller and good team that went beyond. Loved the character, heart and Aloha of players like the Emily Hartongs and the Tais of this world…they are great role models for the next generation of Wahine. -go bows
#21-27# thank you, great insight and points of view.
Go wahines!
good points all but the bottom line is stats are stats. good for comparison and discussion
But the only stat that matters is W-L
Thursday scores up at
http://hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=34090