Warriors-Gauchos rewind

Thought a disappointing night all around for the Warriors.

They are mathematically alive but they’d need to win both at UCSD. They aren’t a very good road team so …. If they win two, they finish 10-14. They would need for Stanford to lose its last 5 to finish 9-15 or CSUN to lose its last 4 to go 9-15. Stanford, CSUN and UCSB all have the tiebreaker on UH.


  1. jmy March 30, 2013 8:24 pm

    How likely is either scenario?

  2. Roxy March 30, 2013 8:25 pm

    No, Stanford needs to lose their last 5, CSUN their last 4 for UH to qualify.

  3. jmy March 30, 2013 8:27 pm

    I think the info above is based on the assumption that UH will win both at UCSD…

  4. Cindy Luis March 30, 2013 8:30 pm

    Stats almost not worth it.
    Sedore 4-5-17, Averill 4-1-7, Marks 2-3-9, Zarkovic 7-6-20, West 4-0-16, Olsen 6-2-13
    ) aces for the Warriors, 1 for the Gauchos. UCSB with 18 SEs, 13 for UH
    Gauchos hit 349 to the Warriors’ 132
    UH 9. 5 blocks, UCSB 6.5. UH with 19 digs, UCSB 24.
    UCSB led by Licht with 18 kills

  5. Msrpantoja1@Huh.'A'loha March 30, 2013 8:31 pm

    #4, Tsai-kos 😉

  6. Msrpantoja1@Huh.'A'loha March 30, 2013 8:33 pm

    K, I guess I’m #5 (Cindy beat me to the punch).

  7. Cindy Luis March 30, 2013 8:34 pm

    I suppose you could say that UH’s youth showed tonight. Guess what is disappointing is they played so well in some matches. Things seemed to go downhill after the CSUN weekend with Marks not 100 percent.
    When UH passed well, they could run everything. Their middles are excellent but Ramos didn’t go there if the pass wasn’t perfect.
    Very surprised that they didn’t use the 3-meter attack more.
    Hope everyone has a nice Easter or Passover or just a pleasant Sunday. Good night.

  8. Alohilani March 30, 2013 8:36 pm

    Too bad for the way the season here ended. However there is always next year. Hope Siki is happy here in Hawaii and doesn’t at some point decide not to come back. I know Umlauft left because of school (or so he says) but just don’t want to see Siki leave. By the way, who are the new recruits coming in next year and what are their positions?

  9. Cindy Luis March 30, 2013 8:39 pm

    Sorry all, mistyped originally. yes, Stanford needs to lose the last 5 or CSUN the last 4. and, yes, all based on UH winning twice. Still if Stanford and CSUN get to 10 wins, Uh is out.

  10. volleyball fan March 30, 2013 8:43 pm

    All the worst case scenarios for Stanford and CSUN won’t happen. No use mulling over it. Forget about playoffs. Season is over. Let’s now just think about happier things.

  11. Cindy Luis March 30, 2013 8:45 pm

    Just saying mathematically. Realistically no.

  12. dedicatedfan March 30, 2013 8:58 pm

    With everyone, except the lone senior, supposedly coming back, the Warriors need to make the MPSF finals for Charlie Wade to keep his job as Head Coach after next year, in my opinion. They cannot use the excuse of being to young next year. Not with everyone having at least a year of experience.

  13. Warriorfan March 30, 2013 9:05 pm

    So if it was up to me I’d let coach Wade go. I doubt his buy out is unaffordable by UH ( it’s not like he has a million dollar salary like Greg McMackin)

    I am VERY disappointed in the coaching the past month. They went from going toe to toe with the best five teams in the MPSF to losing badly to the lower tier teams that I thought they would beat (cal Baptist, Northridge, UCSB) Two at them at home. I think it’s time for a change, Wade’s record has gotten worse since his first year and I am becoming convinced Jeff Fisher was a BIG reason for that good season. I have high expectations for this program and one good season out of four, including two horrible ones just aren’t good enough to keep around. The worse Wilton ever did in back to back seasons was 9 and 11 wins and Wade is at 7 and 9 right now. I don’t wanna hear the youth excuse either, Averill is a redshirt sophomore, Ramos is a junior, JP is a 21 year old sophomore, Davis redshirt sophomore, West a redshirt junior, Siki has a ton of international experience so basically they are not a team full of true freshmen and sophomores.

    Main thing is I want to see excitement back at UH warrior volleyball! the crowds are not good and probably not going to improve next season unless they are top 3 in the MPSF and I don’t see that happening with the players that are returning under Wade.

    First of all the setting position. I just don’t think Ramos is consistent enough. There’s a reason he was third? string at Pacific I think. The new coach needs to bring in a new setter or give Jennings Franciskovic the reigns.

    I really like Siki but as option 2 or 3. I don’t think he’s the kind of hitter that can carry a team.
    I would definitely give Kupono Fey a look on the outside, he was one of the better hitters on the youth National team and he started all their matches last summer.
    I like Sedore but he’s too hot and cold, UH needs to bring in another big Opposite to make him work for that starting spot. (Maybe Iian Mckeller can be that guy)

    I’ve almost given up on JP as an attacker ( you can’t have a starting pin hitting under .200 regulary and expect to be successful) so I’d consider moving JP to libero because I am not sold on the returning liberos.
    I think if JP concentrated on just defense and passing, he could easily be one of the top liberos in the MPSF. His serving would be missed though.

    Averill is solid but he needs to be set more than 2 times per game. West needs to be starting that is obvious and I hope the new coach sees that.

  14. dedicatedfan March 30, 2013 9:55 pm

    Two things going against Charlie Wade, one is Ben Jay, who comes from a University that has a rich winning tradition, and will not put up with a mediocre sports program. The other is Charlie Wade’s reputation as a Head Coach amongst California High School coaches, which is not good. I believe Ben Jay will give Charlie Wade one more year to prove himself, as a Head Coach. The only reason, and I mean only reason, is that Ben Jay has only been Athletic Director for less then an year. If Ben Jay were here for more then 1 year, Charlie Wade would be let go, in my opinion. By the way, the same can be said for Gib Arnold.

  15. dedicatedfan March 30, 2013 10:02 pm

    Charlie Wade needs to bring in a Big Time Recruit for next year. If not, I do not see him keeping his job beyond next year. I do not see the Warriors challenging for the MPSF crown with what he has returning, without that Big Time Recruit. Where, oh Where, are you Umlauf, or Allen Allen, or Yuval Katz, kind of player.

  16. vlimafan March 31, 2013 5:26 am

    It’s imperative for Wade and his coaching staff to find a way to improve the serving aspect of the game… I can almost hear ppl saying “Duhhh!” lol… I don’t know, maybe take a page out of some other coaches’ training/philosophy/strategy if possible??? (yes? no? maybe? something?) Because for the past 2, 3 years, those service errors have cost them several matches that they could’ve and should’ve won. They’re a strong serving team that can get other teams into trouble. However if a team (like UCSB) handles UH’s serve with ease, UH doesn’t adjust well and they become very error prone. Obviously adjustments must be made by the coaches in that area of the game in order to have a successful 2014 season.

    What’s also vital for next year is for Wade to land a solid setter. Easier said than done, I know. However, Wade is a fantastic recruiter and salesman, so maybe he can pull it off. You never know…

    Although I’m a fan of Joby, I do agree w/ Warriorfan: Joby is not consistent enough. I hope I don’t offend any of his other fans (bc I really do like him and cheer him on) when I say that I think he’s a good back up setter rather than a starting setter–at least for the time being. I’m unsure of what Max can bring to the table as a full time setter and how he would do under pressure. He seems a bit slower than than Joby at getting to the ball when the passing goes awry. The reason I’m saying these things is bc this year’s team was not a good steady passing team, and I’m thinking if it continues in to next season, they are really going to need a setter who can handle a horrendous pass and set a hittable ball, more times than not.

    As for JP, he is brilliant on floor defense and the team sorely missed him when he was out sick, but I sure hope Wade does not make JP the libero next year because that would mean the team would be losing one of their best blocker and server. He is needed as an OH and as a 6 rotation player, imo. Hopefully he will be able to work some of his hitting kinks out during the off season… And if Wade does succeed in landing a really solid setter next year, hopefully that will help get JP’s hitting percentage up as well. Same goes for Siki,

    Speaking of, I think it’s very possible for Siki to become a reliable go-to-hitter (sorry, Warriorfan, I’m completely ignorant of Kapuno and the other recruits coming in. I’m basing my opinion on what I’ve seen this year). He does have the most kills, and leads in kills per set, and kill percentage amongst the pin hitters–as a freshman. I think he and Joby just did not have a great connection a lot of the time, much like Mita and Brittany didn’t have which unfortunately made Brittany’s hitting numbers go down in her last season. Yes I’m aware that Brit had major back problems but that doesn’t take away the fact that they (usually) just weren’t in sync with each other. Siki seems to be the most versatile hitter on the team. I think with time and with a great setter–and coaching–Siki can be one of the best hitters in the MPSF… just my opinion.

    Having said all that, I just wanted to say I’m glad Cheape stuck it out. He was amazing at times, and he is one individual who I believe is a perfect role model for kids. He never gave up despite being cut a few years ago. He worked his butt off and persevered and got back on the team, and as a starter no less. With that kind of work ethic, discipline, and determination, you just know he’ll succeed at whatever he strives for in life. A perfect role model not only for kids but as well as for adults.

    It’s a shame the Warriors didn’t make it to the playoffs, but they absolutely made this season exciting and entertaining. I enjoyed this season a whole lot… MUCH better than 2012 for sure. I’m looking forward to next year.

    Hope everyone’s Easter Sunday will be a great one =0)

  17. Purple&Green March 31, 2013 7:02 am

    With this specific group of men, chemistry was what was sorely missed.

    I don’t understand why the coaches think that they can recruit athletes from all of the world and expect that they can just “gel” together and play as one cohesive unit, in minimal time frames. VB is especially unique that way in that in such a tiny space (30 x 30) you’ve got the most number of athletes (six)–of ANY sport–being competitively required, shoulder-to-shoulder, to ‘steamroll’ for success(es). It is what makes the sport such a notetable one, tho. Almost Spiritual, imagine that!

    The coaching/encouragement this year was to be one which would’ve called for a determined staff in “psyching them up” (day to day) esp. through this latter half of the season. With ‘under’-developed talent, the coaching needs to be more cerebral in this regard..VB is again 85% mental. Ego, for ALL tho, is generally difficult to keep in check.

    OH1- Siki
    OH2- Olson / Kanetake

    MB1- West
    MB2- ??..Averil tho functional is “bottom heavy”..Holt was doing just fine early against the top of the MPSF

    Lib- Cheape (who believe it or not is an ’emotional’ player)

    Opp (where they really continue to miss Umlauft)- Marks, Sedore?, then Timmer?

    Setter- Ramos was the right man for the job this season, period.
    *Joby would’ve been able to to do more, here (^^^)*

    Wade ends up being the next UH WVB coach (2015), none the less..He’s “smooth” that way.


  18. Ron March 31, 2013 7:19 am

    Agree with WF except Wade deserves one more year to prove himself. Not playing West and letting Averill serve that floater baffled me all year. UCSB is an example of a team that improved over the season. They were the best passing team we saw all year. Good passing takes lots of work. Also agree with VLfans assessments and Dfans predictions. Just 5 months until Wahine Volleyball!

  19. Cindy Luis March 31, 2013 9:53 am

    Wade won’t be let go after this year. They can’t afford to buy him out. Hard to fault a young team in a brutal conference. Everyone has been beatable. UOP taking down CSUN is a good example. And UCSB nearly knocked off BYU in Provo.
    trust me, Wade will not be the next Wahine coach.

  20. Cindy Luis March 31, 2013 9:56 am

    As for their record, when you look at the 13 five setters, they went 6-7. all could have gone either way. For argument’s sake, say they had won even 3 of those 7 that they lost. This discussion wouldn’t be happening.

  21. setaone March 31, 2013 10:08 am

    Agree that serving errors, youth and inconsistently cost this team many points this year.

    As for Siki not being the go to guy….how can you say an incoming freshman can fulfill that role unknowing what they will do against the best conference of any sport in the NCAA? Only time will tell.

    Here’s to hoping Wade gets to at least finish out his contract. The team made leaps and bounds overact year’s team.

  22. Karmady March 31, 2013 10:10 am

    So true, Cindy. That said I would like to see Wade and assistants spending timeouts talking to the players instead of each other…it’s called coaching. Wade has never seemed very professional…quotes on tv and in paper full of slang (“crap/crappy” “mojo”) and what seemed to be a very dispassionate and detached demeanor. That only works for the truly great, like Wooden.

  23. Warriorfan March 31, 2013 11:01 am

    I will be bummed if the AD treats Mens volleyball like another non revenue sport and just keeps an underperforming coach to save money instead of doing the right thing for the program. I can sort of understand keeping coach Gib because the basketball team attracts decent crowds but with Wade I see no positives in keeping him around.

    The team still has problems winning close games like they did last season and AGAIN had a late season collapse. As for the youth excuse Wade keeps bringing in a bunch of new players every year so the lack of experience on his team is basically his fault. They wouldn’t be young if he had kept players like Shane Welch and Harrison Caroll. Next year four freshmen are coming (more on the way I am sure) with only one senior leaving, he will probably try to use the youth excuse again next year.

  24. Warriorfan March 31, 2013 11:04 am

    Vilmafan I thought this was a much better year than last year up until the past few weeks, they have only won TWO more matches than last season, and they finished last in the MPSF last season for the first time ever so anything would have been an improvement over that. New lows for this program 🙁

  25. dedicatedfan March 31, 2013 2:16 pm

    Cindy, all I can say is, Coach Mac & Coach Dana, wish you were the AD when they were coaching here. Cause with you being the AD they would still be Hawaii Head Coaches. 🙂

  26. dedicatedfan March 31, 2013 2:19 pm

    Karmady, do those slang words sound familiar. Words a certain Basketball Head Coach used, who no longer is a UH Basketball Head Coach.

  27. Karmady March 31, 2013 4:42 pm

    Perhaps…but a different AD was in charge then.

  28. Msrpantoja1@Huh.'A'loha March 31, 2013 5:28 pm

    Okay, #19.
    UH Athletics needs to get a clue from Cindy’s blog..yes, even from what I’m about to post ’cause I’m truly serious about it, Cindy, this time around:

    W/ it being the “off season” now (all the way around)..

    Wong (WSVB) needs to be cut lose from under Dave’s authority(s) ASAP.
    -He can’t be both a hc for Beach and associate for indoors. sooo many in the nation expect that when it comes to women’s vb, Hawai’i NEEDS to be at the front of the pack.

    Shoji (WVB) must decide once and for all to retire.
    -Keeping people “hanging” about what may/may not be done is NOT cool! He’s had thee most remarkable ‘run’; he’s perhaps the best all-time.

    Wagner Pacheco (WVB) needs to be hired to fill the ass. position already.
    -The next couple of years SHOULD be spent ‘assimilating’ as to ensure for successes. The man was here before; he is a perfect fit, extraordinarily most skilled coach at that.

    Wade (MVB) will do better next year.
    -He MUST make the tourney next season..I’ll suggest at the very least the semi-finals of the MPSF to retain ALL ‘hopes’.

  29. Msrpantoja1@Huh.'A'loha March 31, 2013 5:31 pm

    *Heart warming*
    I could swear, in recalling (in)correctly, that Lindel has already had a double mastectomy to begin with–back in the 80s.


  30. Cindy Luis March 31, 2013 5:49 pm

    28: Shoji will retire when he wants to
    Wong is staying in both sports. There is no conflict in the two jobs.
    Not understanding your love for Pacheco.
    Wade has one year left on his contract. He knows he’s got to produce.
    WF, as for me being AD. I doubt if I would have kept Mac. Maybe not Takahara-Dias either. I certainly wouldn’t have hired Bolla.
    Perhaps they did underperform this season but it’s a really tough league. Except for BYU, everyone else has 6 losses or more. There are going to be 3-4 teams with 10 losses that make the playoffs.

  31. vballfreak808 March 31, 2013 10:57 pm

    Wade has one more year left? I thought this was his last year on his contract?

  32. karmady April 1, 2013 7:15 am

    #31/vballfreak808 unfortunately, we can’t be so lucky.

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