Wahine schedule and its problems, conflicts
We knew back in March there was going to be some problems with this schedule, due to football schedule.
But for the first time UH is going to have football and Wahine volleyball on the same Saturday. And they’ll do it twice. The first will be opening weekend where football vs. Washington is scheduled for 2 p.m., Wahine vs. Arizona State at 8 p.m. The second is the following weekend. On Sept. 6, Wahine play at noon vs. St. John’s, football at 430 vs. Oregon State.
there also is volleyball on a football Saturday (Sept 13) when UCLA plays Utah State, single game. football vs. Northern Iowa that night.
And, for the first time in a very long time, UCLA is not the marquee match of a tournament. UH plays the Bruins on Friday, Sept. 12., second match.
Shoji said they had little choice and making the best of it. some of it due to the teams that were coming out and unable to stay to play Sunday. or even the Labor Day Monday. He hopes that those that have tickets to both sports will go to both. To be honest, I don’t see it, especially the noon match.
Also IMHO don’t see that they’ve done the fans any favors with the Nov. 28-29 matches at 8 p.m. Late start due to Wahine basketball tournament. If basketball goes late, and it has in the past, the matches might not start until 830 or later. No knock on Wahine basketball but they do not draw. They averaged 1,675, helped by the doubleheaders with the men. Wahine volleyball averaged 7,590. That’s nearly a 6,000 fan difference.
one last gripe … I don’t get why they keep starting the Wahine tournaments at 5 p.m. UH men start at 4 p.m. At least they are boing realistic by saying the second match is at 730, instead of 7. which rarely happens anyway. but what that means is, because of TV, the second match will not start any earlier than 730. Why not start at 4 p.m. or even 430 and have the Wahine go at 7 p.m.?
Anyway, enough rants for an early morning. here is the schedule.
All home matches at Stan Sheriff Center at 7 p.m. unless noted
x-denotes Big West Conference match
Chevron Rainbow Wahine Invitational
Aug. 29: Arizona State vs. San Diego State, 5 p.m.; Ohio at Hawaii, 7:30 p.m.
Aug. 30: Ohio vs. San Diego State, 5:30 p.m.; Arizona State at Hawaii, 8 p.m.
Aug. 31: Ohio vs. Arizona State, 3 p.m.; San Diego State at Hawaii, 5:30 p.m.
Hawaiian Airlines Wahine Classic
Sept. 4: Oregon vs. St. John’s, 5 p.m.; New Mexico at Hawaii, 7:30 p.m.
Sept. 5: St. John’s vs. New Mexico, 5 p.m.; Oregon at Hawaii, 7:30 p.m.
Sept. 6: St. John’s at Hawaii, noon; Oregon vs. New Mexico, 2:30 p.m.
Verizon Challenge
Sept. 11: UCLA vs. San Francisco, 5 p.m.; Utah State at Hawaii, 7:30 p.m.
Sept. 12: Utah State vs. San Francisco, 5 p.m.; UCLA at Hawaii, 7:30 p.m.
Sept. 13: UCLA vs. Utah State, 2 p.m.
Sept. 14: San Francisco at Hawaii, 5 p.m.
Sept. 17: Exhibition vs. Toyota Auto Body (Japan).
Sept. 19: vs. Northern Arizona.
Sept. 20: Alumnae match, 5 p.m.; vs. Northern Arizona.
Sept. 26: x-at UC Davis.
Sept. 27: x-at UC Riverside
Oct. 3: x-CSU Fullerton.
Oct. 4: x. UC Irvine.
Oct. 10: x-at CSU Northridge.
Oct. 11: x-at Long Beach State.
Oct. 24: x-Cal Poly.
Oct. 26: x-UC Santa Barbara, 5 p.m.
Oct. 31: x-at UC Irvine.
Nov. 1: x-at CSU Fullerton.
Nov. 7: x-Long Beach State.
Nov. 8: x-CSU Northridge.
Nov. 21: x-at UC Santa Barbara.
Nov. 22: x-at Cal Poly.
Nov. 28: x-UC Riverside, 8 p.m.
Nov. 29. x-UC Davis, 8 p.m.
this is revised from an earlier post to reflect the correct dates, and the final four site
Dec. 4-7: NCAA 1st & 2nd round, tba
Dec. 12 & 13: NCAA Regionals, Host schools: Washington, Iowa State, Louisville, Minnesota.
Dec. 18 & 20, NCAA final four, Oklahoma City, Okla.
Instead of just saying they want fans to go to both volleyball and football games, they should actually show it. This will definitely benefit UH and I’ll explain.
Volleyball tickets are $12. On the 2 dates mentioned in article, if you bring a volleyball ticket to the football game then you can buy a football ticket for $12 too.
Here’s how it benefits UH: these fans will be out all day. They will definitely be buying drinks and food. I’m sure that 2 microwave-quality hot dogs at Aloha Stadium will make up the reduction of football tickets to $12 (only slightly kidding).
*** If football continues on their present path of self destruction No Aloha will be half empty and the SSC packed. 🙂
*** I’ll pass on Toyota Auto Body
*** I really don’t expect things to make any sense because we hire decision makers who have no common sense.
Sept. 13: UCLA vs. Utah State, 2 p.m.
Don’t see a “conflict”. First of all, the game should be over before the football game starts at 6:00. Probably by 4:30 at the latest. I can leave Kaneohe (farther than UH) at that time, park in an Aiea neighbor, and walk to the stadium with 1/2 hour to spare before kickoff, especially with Northern Iowa being the match up. Secondly, how many fans are going to see this matchup with UH not playing? Do they even charge admission for this game? Don’t recall if it is on the season ticket packet, but I have never gone on a non-UH game day.
I don’t care what time or if the wahine matches conflict with football or basketball. All I’m concerned about is that I hope they have a WINNING SEASON and win the BIG WEST and go into the NCAA tournament but I know its going to be a tough year for Shoji so I’m going to watch the wahine play even though I have season tickets for the football games …..I just hope this year’s wahine players can compete on a high level and take the team to the tournament. Oh, well, im also cheering for the football team….geezus, they just got to win at least SOME games, right……..
the schedule is what it is. maybe teams on there will surprise and provide a nice boost to the RPI.
and i think the final four is in oklahoma this year (it was in seattle last year).
3. guess that wasn’t the right term ‘conflict’ but I do think it presents a problem for people who either can only afford one sport or don’t have the time to go to both, especially those who have kids playing youth sports on Saturdays.
5. you’re right. I did a cut and paste from the one UH had. It is in Oklahoma this year.
see revised schedule on original post.
I was surprised how can they play UC Davis and Riverside on their first road trip on consecutive days? The two cities are at least 400 miles apart if not more. That is a lot of travel on the road. The team would be exhausted by the time they’d be ready to play Riverside. Even if it’s a weak team, it is not to be taken lightly. Will they fly between the two cities?
I expect they are flying. otherwise an 8-hour drive on a good day. it is about 420 miles.
it’s an odd travel partnership to be sure.
I’m guessing they’d fly Sacramento to Ontario. 100 minute flight.
I don’t like the Northridge/Long Beach travel partners….2 tough back to back matches and they only get 1 match that week with UH. That will be a tough road trip for sure
9. i mentioned that to Shoji as well.especially with a young team. I wasn’t giving much room for the story so didn’t get into that part, nor some things about who might be playing what positions.
Writing another story at the moment. Will do another thread about the stuff that didn’t into today’s paper.
10. I wonder if the preseason Big West poll would name Hawaii #1 again or could it be Long Beach this year as their top players who were injured should be recovered by now and Hawaii will be without Emily Hartong? I don’t think Northridge will be as strong as last year as they graduated three top seniors.
Hawaii will probably still be top ranked when it comes to the pre season poll
We’ll see how the voting goes. Shoji seemed to think the league was going to be improved all-around.
UH and The Beach in similar situations with some key losses and young, unproven talent coming in.
*** Considering the location of UC Davis in relationship to the rest of the mainland BW schools I would say that extended travel for that trip is unavoidable for all of the teams.
One change that caught my eye was the LBSU/UCI trip last year is now LBSU/Northridge. With UCI and LBSU just 25-30 minutes apart by freeway it was a one hotel stay then a short ride to LAX.
*** Speaking of polls I’m wondering if Shoji will be back voting in the AVCA Poll this year ?
*** BW coaches poll will come down to how each coach views each teams returning players and incoming recruits, plus a little politics. 😉
Cindy would you happen to remember the last time UH was not voted #1 in the preseason poll? I’m thinking it must’ve been somewhere between 1996-1998 when BYU was still in the conference.
conference meaning the old WAC
the wac was constantly evolving in the late 90s. even with byu in the conference, hawaii might have still been voted #1 in their divisions of the wac. i know at one point there were 2 divisions. as teams left the conference, there was less need for the separation.
15. there were two divisions. I honestly don’t remember the poll voting.
The last time Hawaii WAS NOT voted #1 in the preseason poll was 1993
I can make that schedule work. For those that can’t, I say you should stick with the wahine…you’ll get a better “product”!