Hawaii drops to 31 in RPI, 17 in poll

Hawaii down 10
Long Beach State drops two to 53
Wisconsin stays at 1

Hawaii down 5 in AVCA poll to No. 17


  1. connor October 10, 2016 8:47 am

    Cindy: i know that i am beating an old horse, but after saturday’s performances by the LS, especially the overall numbers from Granato, doesn’t it make sense for DS to move Mitchem to one of the outsides (even though she is not as comfortable as with the middle) and put Castillo back in the middle. let Sibley and Granato battle for the other position. Please take Granato out of the backrow. Her passing has not improved the entire two years that she has been with the team.

  2. Maverick October 10, 2016 9:20 am

    1. I agree that Granato can’t be in the back right now. She is a passing and serve receive liability right now who limits the benefits of putting Annie in the middle. Opponents will continue to target her. At this point, playing musical chairs will likely hurt the team. We are a little more than seven weeks away from the tournament. The time for re-positioning is over and a lineup needs to be set so the team can gel, which takes time. My view is to improve the back row passing, leave Annie where she is, and hope that at least one of our left sides has a good match every time UH plays (or Greeley has a major late season improvement so she can be a dependable front row player). Combined with a dependable right side and a normally efficient middle, this should make UH a threat to reach the sweet 16. But we are miles (and weeks) away from thinking about the final four, unfortunately.

  3. Oldguy October 10, 2016 9:21 am

    #1. Substitutions are not unlimited so the team needs another 6 rotation player besides Taylor. The choices are Greeley in the front row at less than 100%, Mitchem in the back row with a pad on one hand, Maglio in the back row, Sibley in the back row, a DS in the front row, or Shoji’s current choice – Granato.

  4. Cindy Luis October 10, 2016 9:28 am

    1. Mitchem is better in the middle. Castillo is better on the left. Those are their natural positions and that appears to be the plan now.
    no question Granato is a streaky hitter, struggles with the bigger block. Same with Sibley. and the team as a whole has been struggling with passing and serve-receive.

  5. Cindy Luis October 10, 2016 9:31 am

    took a day off from the computer Sunday
    Here’s the Top 25 scores for yesterday
    1) Minnesota def. Northwestern 25-17, 25-21, 25-17
    3) Nebraska def. 17) Purdue 25-17, 25-13, 25-17
    7) Stanford lost to Utah 24-26, 25-20, 23-25, 19-25
    8) Washington def. Oregon State 26-24, 17-25, 26-24, 25-12
    9) North Carolina def. Miami-FL 25-20, 25-10, 25-18
    10) Washington State lost to Oregon 21-25, 10-25, 14-25
    11) Florida def. South Carolina 25-14, 25-19, 25-19
    14) Ohio State lost to Michigan 20-25, 23-25, 25-16, 25-27
    16) Florida State def. NC State 25-22, 25-19, 23-25, 27-25
    18) UCLA lost to Arizona 25-18, 25-17, 16-25, 21-25, 12-15
    19) Colorado lost to Cal 22-25, 23-25, 25-18, 21-25
    20) Oregon def. Washington State 25-21, 25-10, 25-14
    23) Michigan def. Ohio State 25-20, 25-23, 16-25, 27-25
    25) Kentucky def. Tennessee 25-16, 25-18, 25-16

  6. Ron October 10, 2016 10:10 am

    I agree with Maverick on this. We need to get into a rhythm and we need to shore up our passing. Bad pass means no middle attack, ergo we lose. The lose to LBS was what I would call a “good” lose in that we learned a great deal about ourselves from a very good and a very motivated team. We know that if we can’t spread the point production and we have to rely solely on Nikki, we lose. I am still bullish on this teams chances in the NCAA’s.

  7. noblesol October 10, 2016 11:16 am

    Not only does a bad pass mean no middle attack, but so does bad setting and less than great setting choices. Iosia gets into stretches where she loses connection with her middles. And a bit too often she will ignore her middle when the pass is adequate and the middle is in position and ready and only one blocker up, and instead she’ll send a less than great set across court to a pin. The middles expend great effort and then she goes away from them, and it is frustrating to watch. Against LBS, I think it frustrated Shoji at one point and he pulled her for Higgins.

  8. connor October 10, 2016 11:40 am

    I agree that changing lineup is risky but as i have mentioned before, Mitchem getting 25 swings and Granato getting 46 swings is crazy. if Mitchem gets 46 swings at LS, even if she is more naturally a middle, she gets more than 10 kills and .060 hitting percentage. this helps the team overall. We got plenty of time to get the ladies used to the switch of positions. We need our best hitters with the best chances of getting kills the most swings: that would be Taylor, Mitchem and Maglio. Not Granato.

  9. Ron October 10, 2016 12:03 pm

    conner, good point.

  10. Bleachercoach October 10, 2016 12:15 pm

    I am so disappointed with the amount of talent we have and blame Coach Shoji for the problems we have…After Nikki and Mitchem returning, I still knew all along that our problem is the backrow and passing. Granato definitely is not a backrow player. Kalei is a total mess and I feel her ineffectiveness as a offensive threat is leading to her inadequate play in the backrow and service line. I don’t know what Dave is trying to accomplish with Granato playing all 6 positions. She is a player that should come off the bench and contribute at times at offense. She has more downsides then upsides. Castillo passes ten times better and is a threat more blocking and hitting over blockers with her stature. I don’t care but EMMA SMITH makes this team GO!! She is the only player that has that savvy and focus factor…If Coach doesn’t make the necessary changes….it’s all on him…Dave had the WRONG LINEUP IN THE GAME….Long Beach outplayed and out coached us totally from warm-ups, defense, and offensive transition. Lastly, they might have the Best Libero in the conference IMO…

  11. mekanaka October 10, 2016 12:26 pm

    Bleacher – I concur with your observations. In Set 5, with score at 13-12 (Hawaii) vs LBS, when Emma and Casey was substituted out for Granato and can’t remember who Sibley/Greeley), I had this ominous feeling that came to past.

  12. Maverick October 10, 2016 12:30 pm

    9. The team had significant injuries this year and still aren’t full strength, particularly with two of the top four talented players on the roster. Not apologizing for Shoji, but there is only so much he can do when Greeley is recovering and Mitchem plays late and is shuffled around. I ran the numbers for Ron a couple of weeks ago that suggested Annie should stay outside given Granato/Sibley’s performance to that point, and this makes even more sense if the passing does not improve. But the decision has been made and Annie is in the middle, and is likely to stay there. Btw, Maglio had one of her worst performances this year, so UH Had no left attack and half a middle attack against LBSU.

  13. Pot of Gold October 10, 2016 1:18 pm

    I don’t really understand the term “their natural position”. Mitchem may be more comfortable in the middle having played last season in the Hawaii program exclusively, however I am sure that she could easily find a comfort level as an outside hitter.

    I don’t see the Whine competing with the elite teams without having a go to outside hitter that can go over the block. As pointed out, not getting a three pass limits the setters and a one pass pretty much shuts down any offensive capabilities against lessor opponents let alone the elite teams.

    The passing will be the most difficult correction, not Annie’s ability to adjust to a new position. Castillo also can improve as a middle as she gets comfortable with game experience. Fortunately the conference compete level allows for both players to gain the experience without concern of losing the current ranking.

    There is a small window of opportunity to make this team stronger offensively, they certainly have the horses to do so. It is time to look forward to competing at Nationals, not beating up on the BigWest with two strong middles and a serviceable outside attack at best.

  14. Connor October 10, 2016 1:44 pm

    #12. Well said. Agree 100%.

  15. islandman October 10, 2016 4:32 pm

    ” Long Beach State teammates Ashley Murray and Hailey Harward joined Lauren Matias of UC Davis as this week’s women’s volleyball award recipients.”
    Meanwhile, the middle blockers for LBSU , including 6-4 Xue, outplayed the Wahine MH’s in hitting.
    The TV or stream showed Harward’s footwork and digging the balls; it was kind of unbelievable.

  16. HawaiiMongoose October 10, 2016 5:13 pm

    I agree with Pot of Gold and Connor but unfortunately I don’t think Dave will take the gamble. He’ll reason that we were in position to win despite Nikki struggling early and no one else other than Mitchem generating any offense, and decide the safer bet is to leave everyone where they are and work on Maglio’s consistency, Granato’s passing and Castillo’s outside hitting. With that approach I can see us improving enough to beat LBSU in the rematch, go to the NCAA tournament and win in the first round and possibly the second. But I think the odds of making it to the Final Four will be close to nil, barring a huge improvement in Greeley’s health and productivity.

  17. Connor October 10, 2016 5:52 pm

    Mongoose: You unfortunately probably right in your analysis. Dave is too conservative to shoot the moon and get a lineup that could actually challenge for the final four. He could be right but the improvement on the left side and in passing as it presently stands will have to be immense. I am not optimistic that this can happen.

  18. Bleachercoach October 10, 2016 6:02 pm

    I am sure everyone thinks I am a Granato- Hater!! I am not!! When I evaluate the team, I always look at the best possible way we can be dominant and get the best outcome/consistency with the best possible lineup. Mckenna only gives us a powerful hitter but she is inconsistent due to her inability to go over or around the bugger blocks. When the MB meets her at the pins for blocks it is not a solid wall, like how Higgins was when she would have to block. The other teams will take advantage of Mckenna’s side when scouting them. Last but most importantly, I know the coaches have given her much attention to improve her passing. This is not a time of the season to make a player a better passer when you have Castillo/Sibley/Smith/Clare-Marie to take that back rotation. How much longer are we going to walk on pins and needles on serve receive…We all went through the same problem with another graduate last year. When you look at the sidelines, you have the likes mentioned above plus returning starters, Koelsch, Higgins, and even Mckenna Ross which I feel is athletic, quick, and gets up for a smaller OH…So what is the real problem??? The LS and backrow needs to be made fast because it isn’t working!!
    Against most of the teams in the BW and Long Beach St exposed our weakness with their backrow defense and getting ys out of rythmn and every other competitive team coming into postseason will do the same with much better personnel. We have the HUGE FRONT and all we need is to put the RIGHT PERSONNEL in the backrow to give our wonderful setters and BIGS a chance to convert…We need to get back in system 1-2-3 BAM!!! Sorry a little frustrated and I hate losing when we are supposed to win! We are a better overall team than last year and even without Kalei Greenly we can do it…It’s all depends if Coach makes the necessary change….At this point of the season I think our team needs a wake up call…We need to play that best lineup that will help us for the remainder of season. We need some Long Beach Defense in the backrow with our offense at the net….That is the Solution for us to be where we should be? Do you agree or disagree…Let’s Go Bows!!

  19. Ron October 10, 2016 6:11 pm

    One of the problems I see or think I see is that Iosia is being over coached. She is not displaying the confidence she showed earlier in the season when she did not hesitate to set anyone, high or low, without fear of being second-guessed. I would also sit Greeley until next year when she will be completely healthy and let Smith become part of the back row. We need to have a stable lineup at all positions moving forward.

  20. Ron October 10, 2016 6:17 pm

    Bleachercoach, I didn’t see your blog until I sent mine , but I totally agree!

  21. darkfire35 October 10, 2016 7:36 pm

    Isn’t it a little deja-vu from last year with TMO @ the outside hitter position? I know that Dave didn’t get to his position as the second winningest active coach in the NCAA by being inept. But it seems that sometimes his faith, belief and hope in someone goes a little too far. He’s not perfect, but he’s the best at what he does. I hope Granato does improve for the team’s sake. Maybe Dave should try to leave Castillo in the outside and work with her for awhile, even through the blunders like Granato is doing now. She is too easy of a target for our opponents. What ever Dave does, I hope the team holds together! GO BOWS!

    By the way Cindy, I saw Nikki clutching her left elbow again in the LBSU match, is she ok?

  22. Ashley October 10, 2016 7:59 pm

    i for one still cannot get over that loss to IMO the most annoying team in our conference. i cannot stand LBS and their coach, he makes me wanna fly something at him.

    anyways, we can dwell and complain about everything that went wrong in this match, but at the end of the day where will that leave us? upset and frustrated. Cindy had stated she read a comment about LBS coaches possibly being at the CSUN game and how it was against League Rules, well if that is true i would hope they would look into it, although proof is what they will need. but if it’s true, than shame on LBS for feeling the need to do that.

    our middles didn’t exist in the match our passing was shaky and the refs sucked. LBS had their setter rubbing on the net so many times, without being called.

    i cannot wait for LBS to come here, because i highly doubt they will be able to shut down our middles twice.

    & Nikki cannot be the only one we can rely on, yes i saw her holding her left arm in the fourth set, and how overworked she looked, she cannot be our only option, but what else could Norene do? no other hitter was playing as well as she was. ah.

    but let’s focus on Davis & Irvine, one game at a time.

  23. Bleachercoach October 10, 2016 8:26 pm

    Thanks Ron for always getting my back…

    20. I agree with you on sometimes his faith and loyalty to a player rides too long…Coach is good at what he does for the past 42 years, but it should be an easier decision this year to make the changes and moves in his lineup based on the BEST OVERALL TALENT he has ever had on the court….Many of his players on the bench would be starters in another good Division 1 program. I think time is running out for coach and I hope he can end his coaching career with another National Championship since 1987…

  24. Bleachercoach October 10, 2016 8:38 pm

    21…Yes Coach “G” is someone who is so animated and irritating for opponents to watch with his constant battles with the refs. One thing I can say is his players plays with that emotion on the court. His team represents his personality as a fighter on one side but I watched him after the match and you can see his love and passion for his community. He spent a lot of time talking to a group of volleyball club girls on the court and I saw that different side of him…It was pretty neat to see that he really is a warm, loving person…Anyways besides that LBS has always been our “thorn in the side” for all these years…Nothing has changed!! I hope we repay them the favor when they come here to play us….I know our girls will be focused and ready!!

  25. kahiaumakuakane October 10, 2016 10:52 pm

    Also forgot to mention that Mitchem dominated as a MH at the JC level. However when you move to a different level, D-1, the speed, size and talent changes. You then find out that your talent is better suited at another position. Rafael Cherry was an awesome quarterback at Hawaii. However when he went to the NFL, because the speed, size and talent level is so much different, he was used as a defensive back.

  26. warriorwahine October 10, 2016 11:01 pm

    10. my post got deleted for unknown reasons but yes i dunno why emma and casey were subbed out. i asked really? was it that time? and put wahine in bad rotation. that was very ominous.

    18. agreed. it was obviously noticable that norene was being overcoached and not setting confidently. additionally shojis steady eddy unfortunately is beaten and broken. the passing/receiving/digging was abysmal and was reminiscent of the loss versus u-dub. shoji can be hanging his head that he didnt manage right.

  27. Warriorfan October 11, 2016 1:50 am

    Season is very frustrating but on the bright side this loss exposed UH alot to things they still need to work on, granato just should not be backrow !and i agree with those who think Mitchem should move back to the left , castillo/sibley will have a hard time putting the ball down against good defenses and Mitchem needs more sets then those two.

  28. WAC_FAN October 11, 2016 4:57 am

    For those of you wanting Granato out of the back row? Who do you want as the 3rd passer then? We will run out of substitutions if we sub both of our outsides out every time they are in the back row…

  29. rabbit ears October 11, 2016 8:02 am

    I still like Annie in the middle (her preference) and Casey on the outside. Casey is a pleasant surprise out there. Need to keep the faith. The LBS libero was playing out of her mind.

  30. nomu October 11, 2016 10:18 am

    Serving, passing, blocking, hitting, mental. How would you rank each each of these attributes for a team to be successful? Would you rank passing number 1, serving 2, etc?

    Imho, the number one attribute should be mental, then passing, serving, hitting, blocking.

    When you have players that have that something extra, it does tilt the scales, but the presumption is that “all other things being equal”. And in any case, if you don’t play as a team, you likely won’t win.

  31. mei mei October 11, 2016 10:36 am

    will put in my 2cents:

    think smith or anderson should be placed in place of Granato… when she rotates to the back… then the middles will be set more…
    keep mitchem in the middle
    between sibbs and castillo on the LS should work out with a bunch of one on one situations…

    also think Koelsch should be subbed in when Iosia rotates to the front… as a blocking sub more often.. she was very successfull / instrumetal in last year’s win against the beach…

    wished kalei didn’t burn her junior year – and just medically red-shirt this year

    pass / receive is always #1 – have to be in system and be able to side out for a high percentage

    hoping and wishing that they gel come post season and firing off all cyclinders
    go BOWS!

  32. tongo October 11, 2016 11:53 am

    Was at the match and you got to give credit to the Beach who played a truly outstanding game and exposed our weakness. UH had its chances. There were uncharacteristic mistakes as this new lineup was still gelling and sorting itself out. It clearly needed more rep with each other to form the necessary chemistry. Great UH fan support at the pyramid and attendance was the largest I ever saw there. IMO, if this lineup had another week or so together, the outcome would have been different. Was so proud to see how the wahines never gave up and persevere – a very good sign for this newly formed lineup going forward.

  33. Kauaiboy October 11, 2016 12:51 pm

    Watched the replay this morning and thought the Beach played a heck of a match. Their libero was outstanding, outplayed ours by miles. Where the match was won for LBSU was in serve receive and back row play, having watched them before I felt their ball control would keep them in a match against Hawaii. On a side note I actually like this LBSU team, they seem to be playing steady team volleyball with no attitudes on the court. I agree with previous comments on Iosia, seems like she’s being over coached. Also, it was obvious that Maglio was frustrated the entire night… Very unfortunate to not show up on the biggest match of the season in conference.

  34. rabbit ears October 11, 2016 1:24 pm

    In Maglio defense, she did not get very good sets.

  35. kvlogic October 11, 2016 1:43 pm

    Quit worrying about RPI and just win. The glory days are over, folks. The Power 5 conferences have long surpassed the likes of the Big West. Yes, even Hawaii. So get on with it. When Dave retires, we’ll look back at an era that will never be duplicated at UH in any sport. So enjoy it while it lasts because he’s not getting any younger.

  36. Rabbit ears October 11, 2016 2:55 pm

    Greeley is playing well. Not sure why people want her to redshirt. This year is our best opportunity in years. Once Nikki’s graduates, we are in rebuild mode.

  37. Cindy Luis October 11, 2016 4:39 pm

    Greeley cannot redshirt or apply for a medical hardship.
    She has played in too many matches
    Disagree about her being ‘a mess.’ she’s not 100 percent and probably won’t be this season.
    18. disagree about Iosia being overcoached They took her out against Long Beach to give her a chance to see the game from the bench (think this was in Set 3). was told she needed to go to the middle more.
    24. don’t know why it was deleted. some of my comments were as well. Not happy with our server, which has affected the blog and emails.

    agree with most of the comments about the passing not allowing the middle to be run.

    The RPI is what is it is. And there’s no way for Hawaii to climb back up since they only play lower RPI teams the rest of the way. They were going to drop regardless if they beat Long Beach State or not. The goal is to win the automatic berth.

    Shoji did say at practice today (Tuesday they were opening it up at all positions and that they may have some position changes this week.
    see new thread for more.

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