Start to the finish

It takes a combination of skill, good health, opportunity  and good performance to become a four-year starter, which is what made John Estes and Kaulana such rarities. Each started every game of his UH career. So, too, did Dan Kelly, but he was a kicker — usually a less-physical position, although the Iceman did not know that.

Linebacker Solomon Elimimian started all but two games. But he played every game of his UH career. Kealoha Pilares also has started nearly every game in the first three UH season — a demanding task considering he has played running back, slotback and wideout.

Long-snapper Luke Ingram and punter Alex Dunnachie — both sophomores — have a chance to be four-year starters.

Of this year’s freshmen, Allen Sampson has a shot, as a kick returner, although I’m not sure if that counts. Middle linebacker George Daily-Lyles also could end up with a Solomon-like career.

The wildcard is Chauncy Winchester-Makainai, who was recruited as an offensive guard. But because of an injury to Clayton Laurel and Brett Leonard’s move to guard, Winchester-Makainai practiced at tackle during spring training. Now, with Matagisila Lefiti expected to miss the season opener because of foot surgery, Winchester-Makainai has been practicing at center. The coaches insist Winchester-Makainai is the real deal who very well could end up playing extensively somewhere on the offensive line. He can bench press 405 pounds, and run 20 yards in 2.98 seconds, fourth-fastest among UH offensive linemen.

Side note: He would like to be known as Winchester-Makainai, although only Makainai will be written on his jersey.

COMMENTS

  1. wafan July 6, 2010 7:58 am

    1st!!!


  2. wafan July 6, 2010 8:00 am

    Dang. Cannot believe I am in paradise and end up being 1st and 2nd!?!?!


  3. wafan July 6, 2010 8:00 am

    And 3rd!


  4. wafan July 6, 2010 8:01 am

    Win, Place, and Show — whoo-hoo!


  5. wafan July 6, 2010 8:03 am

    Thank you to everyone who has to work, or are sleeping in, for the opportunity to be first.


  6. haka July 6, 2010 8:03 am

    Go Warriors!


  7. Da Punchbowl Kid July 6, 2010 8:04 am

    Sixth!


  8. Da Punchbowl Kid July 6, 2010 8:05 am

    7th and 8th then…


  9. haka July 6, 2010 8:05 am

    Would love to see Chauncy at center for 4 years!


  10. Da Punchbowl Kid July 6, 2010 8:08 am

    I like seeing Chauncy being mentioned with the likes of Kaulana and Estes. Lets not forget Satele in that group.

    Kealoha has been an indispensable part of our offense since day one. Hope to see him in the pros!


  11. Pride. July 6, 2010 8:09 am

    Isn’t Samson Satele in that category with John Estes and Kaulana Noa?


  12. haka July 6, 2010 8:10 am

    Nalo represents at center!


  13. Kazz July 6, 2010 8:10 am

    Only “Makainai”? Is that because the rest won’t fit? 😯


  14. Pride. July 6, 2010 8:10 am

    Was Vince Manuwai a four year starter?


  15. (Jesse) James July 6, 2010 8:17 am

    Good morning Tsaikos…wow…top twenty…


  16. chopsueyboy July 6, 2010 8:18 am

    Top Twenty!

    Good Morning Tsai-kos!


  17. Da Punchbowl Kid July 6, 2010 8:19 am

    Good Morning Pride, Kazz, haka and (J)J!


  18. Da Punchbowl Kid July 6, 2010 8:20 am

    Good Morning wafan and csb!


  19. Kazz July 6, 2010 8:20 am

    The UH Rainbowtique opened a 3rd off-campus location at the Waikiki Marriott Resort and Spa.

    Now, at first glance this does NOTHING for the local fans as this is not an ideal location for local residents to easily access a UH store to buy merchandise.

    With their second off campus location located in Fort Street Mall and NOT open on weekends, the only “easily” accessible location is in Ward and the selection has always left more to the imagination.

    I am assuming upper campus is funding the construction and paying the bills for rent and whatnot for this.

    However, I wonder if this Waikiki location is an attempt to reach the Asian visitors with UH branded merchandise?

    Personally I think they should open a location in the Waikele area in the shopping complex with all the outlet stores. Lots of locals and visitors frequent that area.


  20. Kazz July 6, 2010 8:21 am

    DPK,

    “Good Morning”?

    Jury still out on that.


  21. Stephen Tsai July 6, 2010 8:22 am

    Kazz:
    I did my usual name-check with him, and that’s when he mentioned that only Makainai would be on his jersey. So, to double-double check, I asked what name he preferred in print. He then said he wanted to honor a grandparent, so he wanted stories to have Winchester in there, too.


  22. Stephen Tsai July 6, 2010 8:28 am

    I’ll give players the option of how they wish to be known, such as:
    Isa‘ako Sopoago, who wanted to be known as Isaak but UH kept spelling it Isaac.
    Ryan Grice-Mullins
    Melila Purcell
    Matagisila Lefiti instead of just Sila
    Tank Hopkins
    Liko Satele
    Jose Jose Delgado
    Charlie (Wade)
    DPK


  23. d1島 July 6, 2010 8:28 am

    4-year starter is a “good thing/bad thing” kinda “thing”

    Good that a new recruit has the athleticism and ability to start as a Freshman (true or RS) but bad that there isn’t sufficient quality in the program to feed a more “normal” succession.


  24. d1島 July 6, 2010 8:28 am

    d1島 instead of d1shima?


  25. MichiganWarrior July 6, 2010 8:32 am

    A lineman that runs 20 yards in 2.98 seconds… just don’t get caught standing at the end when he needs to stop!


  26. koakane iphone4 July 6, 2010 8:33 am

    morning to everyone and welcome home to pwn Wafan


  27. MichiganWarrior July 6, 2010 8:35 am

    #19… again, sales of UH stuff concentrated in the same area, and not made more accessible to Leeward O’ahu. Who is in charge of sales and marketing???


  28. tommui July 6, 2010 8:35 am

    Top 30 – fantastic!

    Morning Hawaii!


  29. Pride. July 6, 2010 8:37 am

    MichiganWarrior:

    July 6th, 2010 at 8:32 am
    A lineman that runs 20 yards in 2.98 seconds… just don’t get caught standing at the end when he needs to stop!

    That’s what I was thinking last week MichiganWarrior, when Tsai posted that picture of Isaako Sopoaga. Rugby? You’ve got to be kidding? Having I guy like that, run around with us normal human beings?


  30. Pride. July 6, 2010 8:38 am

    Welcome wafan.


  31. Pride. July 6, 2010 8:38 am

    Did we miss NYUH already?


  32. Kazz July 6, 2010 8:43 am

    I still need to catch myself with Samoan names with the “g” in them.

    I like the long names too because once you get them down and you say their names in full, it makes you sound more knowledgable! 😉


  33. Pride. July 6, 2010 8:48 am

    Will be interesting to see if the Panthers hang on to Ray Hisatake. If a team can be patient, and put Hisatake in the weight room for three years. Spend some time working on his technique, he may end up being a real diamond in the rough. We gotta thank Tsai for pointing him out to us.


  34. Pride. July 6, 2010 8:56 am

    The Bears signed Johan Asiata out of UNLV last year as a free agent. Coaches said that he was very raw. Bears kept him on the practice squad during 2009. Asiata will challenge for a starting guard position in fall camp. I think that Hisatake fits the same profile as Johan.


  35. Kazz July 6, 2010 8:57 am

    MichiganWarrior,

    John McNamara’s area I believe.

    What has made things difficult to “monitor” for fans is that there is an inconsistency with what merchandise is available at which location.

    The best assortment of UH H logo merchandise is at Campus Center, but I graduated a few years ago and have no purpose being up there. Once in a great while when I am coming from UH football practice or really REALLY feel the need to get something then I would entertain the thought of driving out there.

    Still most aren’t like me and would never even bother.

    Besides walking up there makes me feel like I am 37 instead of 27.


  36. Stephen Tsai July 6, 2010 8:58 am

    I’ve got all of these 10-yard and 20-yard times, but no 40-yard times. Not sure why UH doesn’t do 40 times anymore.


  37. Kazz July 6, 2010 8:59 am

    I’ve chatted casually with a store manager at the Ward location recently about merchandise variety and whatnot and essentially it’s the same story as the guy infront of me really has no say in the way merchandise is distributed from the bookstore location to the others.

    Seems like they are really pushing UH merchandise to business folk and tourists.


  38. Kazz July 6, 2010 9:00 am

    ST,

    What if you take the 20 yard time and mulitply it by two?


  39. Stephen Tsai July 6, 2010 9:00 am

    Kazz is correct. Best stuff is on campus. When I need to get stuff for speeches, I’ll go to the UH Bookstore. For some reason, they’ll have a lot of good discounts. Good for mass buying.


  40. Stephen Tsai July 6, 2010 9:01 am

    Re: Multiply
    Doesn’t seem to work that way. Because when I multiply a 10-yard time by two, it doesn’t equate to 20-yard time. Has something to do with the start, I think.


  41. Kazz July 6, 2010 9:04 am

    ST,

    Round down then… 😎


  42. Kazz July 6, 2010 9:07 am

    Discounts? Hmmmm… Well my Rainbowtique rewards card cannot be used at the bookstore, but that was almost a year ago so I dunno about now.


  43. Stephen Tsai July 6, 2010 9:14 am

    Interesting ESPN story about the wide use of liquid codeine, Jolly Rancher candy and soda.


  44. Kazz July 6, 2010 9:15 am

    That sounds delicious.


  45. Stephen Tsai July 6, 2010 9:18 am

    It’s called Purple Drank.
    And illegal, apparently.


  46. Kazz July 6, 2010 9:22 am

    Stephen Tsai:

    July 6th, 2010 at 9:18 am
    It’s called Purple Drank.

    Not “CRUNK JUICE”? 😆


  47. SteveM July 6, 2010 9:30 am

    Good morning everyone!


  48. Garret July 6, 2010 9:50 am

    Does UH have a scholarship available for a high school recruit that SMU just denied admission to? SMU’s coaches are looking for a school where he can go to and his GPA and SAT scores are both above the NCAA requirements.

    This isn’t just any recruit. 6’7″, 299-pound offensive tackles do not come available to UH very often! This recruit is from California and had scholarship offers from Oregon, Arizona State, and Utah. He chose SMU because of Adrian Klemm and JJ and moved from California to Dallas already!

    The other interesting thing about this issue is that some SMU boosters are saying that Adrian Klemm might quit after the season because of the 2 last-minute admission denials to recruits from their 2010 class. Like I’ve said before, I’d love for UH to hire Coach Klemm if Gordy Shaw ever leaves UH.

    The rumors are true: Darryl Jackson has been denied admission to SMU, despite qualifying in both GPA and his standardized test score. He said he has had no legal or off-the-field issues, and said no specific reason for the denial was given.

    The 6-foot-7, 299-pound Jackson had other options for schools, including BCS schools like Oregon, Arizona State and Utah, who sought his services.

    Jackson said that his denied admission was appealed, and that he holds no grudge toward the coaching staff. Jackson now finds himself scrambling to find another school (with the help of SMU coaches), but most Div. I-A schools have filled up their allotment of scholarships, and the deadline for joining a team at many junior colleges already has passed.

    “No way,” he said when asked if he harbors any resentment toward Jones and his staff. “They have been great — they have stood by me through this whole thing. They have done everything they can to get me in — they’ve been great. This was just an administration thing.”


  49. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc July 6, 2010 9:55 am

    From yesterday’s blog:

    One of the things that I strongly urge that people learn around here is how the budgeting process actually works at the University of Hawai`i System as well as across all state departments.

    Furthermore, educate and inform yourself about state laws concerning funds transfers from one department to another and within a department from one program to another. That includes donations, endownments, and specific fundraisers as well as legislative allocations. The first two can have specific amendments attached at the request of the donor to move funds around – under limited circumstances; however, state law is very, very clear about spending money allocated for one program on another one.

    Frankly, it torks me off to keep reading snarky comments from people about “upper campus” individuals who are stealing funds from the Department of Athletics to support programs in Kuykendahl or Saunders Halls.

    How often have you examined the financial reports issued over the past eight years as to where the money has gone? These documents are all public records and available to the public.

    What has happened is that the University of Hawai`i has covered all the losses in the Department of Athletics over the years. Now it’s time to start reducing the previous years’ deficits as well as reducing and eventually eliminating current & future fiscal years’ deficits.

    All employees working in & fir the Department of Athletics itself are state employees. For every diollar of revenue coming in, well over 80 cents goes towards direct & indirect personnel costs such as salaries, retirement, medical insurance, cellphones, and food & parking fees while traveling off-campus on business. The rest of the money goes for items as diverse as student scholarships to utility bills to marketing.

    There are only two ways to balance budgets no matter what kind of business: To increase revenues by increasing sales, donations or allocations in the case of public agencies, and prices of the product. The other way is to reduce expenses through staff reductions and to establish operational efficiencies.

    Again, please take the time to educate and inform yourselves about how the State of Hawai`i and the University of Hawai`i are run financially.


  50. Ralph July 6, 2010 9:55 am

    could be due to the number of hamstring injuries that the UH decided to eliminate the 40, a lot of the players pulled up lame after 20, why not stop before they pull up lame.


  51. MichiganWarrior July 6, 2010 9:56 am

    #48… Fo’ Real! Extend that ti leaf to this young man A.S.A.P.!!!


  52. Garret July 6, 2010 9:56 am

    The other recruit that was denied admission and is now available for other schools is Jeremy Hall. The interesting thing is that his grades and ACT score are both above NCAA requirements *and* SMU requirements. However, he had taken the SAT before and gotten a low score, so the admissions committee denied his admission! What about the rule that your *highest* score counts and your other scores are supposed to be ignored?

    I know that these 2 posts are SMU-related, but I think they are *also* UH related before these 2 recruits have already been cleared by the NCAA clearinghouse and are available for any school to add. Both had offers from AQ conferences and are excellent high school recruits. The other thing that makes this UH-related is that things could be interesting if JJ or Adrian Klemm quit after this season…

    Jeremy took the SAT in the fall and received a low score on the English portion. The SMU coaching staff suggested he take the ACT, since SMU accepted those scores, too. He did, and received a score high enough to make him NCAA eligible.

    This committee reviewed the SAT score and “believed” Jeremy wouldn’t be able to pass English at SMU, so they rejected his admission – two days before he was to move in the dorm.

    The only character issues you folks should be questioning are those of the admissions committee, not Jeremy’s. He’s a fine young man and would be more than just an athletic asset to SMU.


  53. Slugger July 6, 2010 10:01 am

    Good morning, Tsaikos!

    Pride.,

    I think NYUH is still here today, leaves tomorrow. Does anyone have a way to get in touch with him?

    Kazz,

    I don’t think McNamara has anything to do with Rainbowtique. Selling merchandise is probably handled by the Bookstore. Setting up shop in Waikiki will generate sales from tourists, both US & international, as well as all of the visitors who will come to watch their school play UH, like USC. Hopefully the Waikiki store has a larger selection than the tents at Aloha Stadium.

    When eating breakfast one morning in El Cerrito, CA, I saw a PG&E repairman wearing a UH cap. As he was leaving I asked him about it, and he said his family was vacationing in Hawaii, followed the Hawaii team & so he bought a cap. Great free publicity for UH.


  54. MichiganWarrior July 6, 2010 10:03 am

    #35… Kazz…
    Then, perhaps, that exclusive license that Rainbowtique holds should be revoked, with one or two other players entering the picture to produce and promote UH merchandise.
    Me? I get my stuff from the table sales at the Cal, whenever I get the chance to catch a UH-UNLV game in Vegas. Even with a ton of relatives back home, and even one on the softball team, it’s more of a hassle trying to get goods from them. I avoid online ordering, since I am more picky about what I am getting. I like to handle the merchandise before paying for it.


  55. Da Punchbowl Kid July 6, 2010 10:06 am

    Kazz:

    July 6th, 2010 at 9:15 am
    That sounds delicious.

    ___________________________________

    ROTFLMAO!


  56. Da Punchbowl Kid July 6, 2010 10:07 am

    Get that recruit on the phone now, somebody!


  57. MichiganWarrior July 6, 2010 10:09 am

    #52… Garret…
    It is also relative to us in that we are both running the same offense. If the kid is good enough for JJ’s offense, it stands to reason that he’d be good enough for our offense too. Just hope we can offer something, if possible, before they decide to walk on somewhere else this year.


  58. Garret July 6, 2010 10:12 am

    WassupDoc,

    The thing is, the Athletic Department cannot wait 10+ years to upgrade its program because the whole world of college athletics might change before then. The fee is being sold as something that will upgrade the Athletic Department, but it appears that none of it will result in increased Athletic Department spending or ways to improve the program.

    I understand the need to reduce the Athletic Department deficit and the budget crunch that the University as a whole is under. However, give then information that you have posted and other information that is available elsewhere, it looks like the budget deficit will be eliminated around 2021 and then the Athletic Department can fully use the student fee. So, the point about whether or not the fee will really *improve* the Athletic Department anytime soon is a fair one I think.

    The net effect of this student fee is the same as if UH increased tuition and then increased its subsidy of the Athletic Department. Is there any difference between the two? Is there *anything* that the Athletic Department will be able to do to improve (such as hiring another compliance officer) after the fee is in place? If not, how is the fee helping the Athletic Department?

    I *agree* that UH needs a student athletic fee and that it is good that the Athletic Department will be reducing its debt. I do *not* agree that the fee is helping any of UH’s teams improve its performance on or off the field. The arguments being made by many UH fans are that the fee is going to upgrade the Athletic Department…in my opinion, it is just going towards deficit reduction. Am I wrong? I know we’ve discussed this already and I understood your point, but can you see why I think this way about this issue?

    I have done my research. I have studied the breakdowns of the revenues and expenses for past years. I just don’t see how the UH Athletic Department will spend a single extra cent after the fee that they wouldn’t have spent anyway before the fee.


  59. Garret July 6, 2010 10:15 am

    Michigan Warrior,

    Those recruits were good enough for SMU’s system *and* the systems of Pac-10 schools. I’m particularly interested in a 6’7″ offensive tackle that so many schools were after. How many of those types of recruits out of high school come available?


  60. MichiganWarrior July 6, 2010 10:16 am

    #37… Kazz…
    It’s fine that they push merchandise on business folks and tourists, but who do you think will fill the seats at Aloha Stadium week in and week out? For sure, the tourists won’t be staying here from September through December to take in the games, spend the money, and support our Warriors… they keep ignoring the local fans around the island and neighbor islands. These are the fans for which a weekly visit back to Aloha Stadium isn’t out of the question, or at least far more feasible than our usual tourists.
    Fine, push product on them, but stop ignoring the rest of the low-access locals!


  61. MichiganWarrior July 6, 2010 10:17 am

    hahaha! A monster that big… any coach would take him in just to train him into whatever offense they run! Plus he has the grades to back up his physical attributes!


  62. Slugger July 6, 2010 10:18 am

    Garret, WassupDoc, ST ~

    Perhaps a chat with Jim Donovan will help to clarify these perceptions & answer questions.

    NYUH!

    Where are you? Are you available for lunch somewhere?


  63. Pride. July 6, 2010 10:21 am

    MichiganWarrior:

    July 6th, 2010 at 10:09 am
    #52… Garret…
    It is also relative to us in that we are both running the same offense. If the kid is good enough for JJ’s offense, it stands to reason that he’d be good enough for our offense too. Just hope we can offer something, if possible, before they decide to walk on somewhere else this year.

    This SMU incident is far from being over. As pointed out by
    Garret a few days ago, it’s going to get real ugly.


  64. Slugger July 6, 2010 10:24 am

    MichiganWarrior,

    Doesn’t UH have a West O’ahu campus? Opening a Rainbowtique store there would be a good start, or as suggested, open one in a mall on the Wessai.


  65. Pride. July 6, 2010 10:30 am

    NYUH!

    Where are you? Are you available for lunch somewhere?

    Of course.


  66. haka July 6, 2010 10:31 am

    why doesn’t jj point the denied recruits this way?


  67. wafan July 6, 2010 10:31 am

    I think NYUH leaves tomorrow.


  68. wafan July 6, 2010 10:33 am

    I sure hope UH is doing something PROactive about the recruits rather than their standard REactive MO.


  69. Garret July 6, 2010 10:34 am

    haka,

    I’ll bet that UH was one of the first schools that JJ and/or Adrian Klemm called. But there had been talk that UH was out of scholarships, but others who said UH had a scholarship or two that could be available, which is why I was curious what UH’s scholarship situation was in my first post.


  70. Pauoa Boy July 6, 2010 10:37 am

    Good luck to Chauncy, thats a huge guy to have in the middle of the line. If he can get the snapping down and launch off the line that quick and bulldoze guys it’ll be hard for anyone to buss through our OLine. I like how the Oline is sizing up literally. I mean I know we’ve always had the kick arse stout overachieving lineman like Vince, Samson, Estes, Herc, etc… but I like the idea of having some beefcakes up front with height, length and girth to move a pile. Hope all the boys are working hard and become cohesive in their assignments this year. The goal should be no sacks given up. Like the movie Blindside, it’s about protecting your family with the QB being your momma, and I know ain’t nobody about to let someone touch their momma!


  71. haka July 6, 2010 10:40 am

    Garret,
    I would like to think that was the case and it would be too bad if we didn’t have a scholie to offer though. Maybe someone would like to gray shirt. Wouldn’t hurt to ask. 🙂
    We can use all the big o-linemen we can get! thanks


  72. papajoe2 July 6, 2010 10:42 am

    # 1 USC recruit, Henderson given his release from Letter of intent making him free to go anywhere.


  73. Aaron July 6, 2010 10:43 am

    D1 so does Notre Dame lack “sufficient quality” because Manti Te’o got so much playing time as a freshman?


  74. Pauoa Boy July 6, 2010 10:43 am

    I’m excited to see what Allen Sampson can do on the field, his highlight tapes show alot of quickness and burst…I hope he puts on a little more bulk too but shute if you can’t catch em then no need. Would be nice to have the second coming of my boy Chad Owens though. If Sampson is as good as advertised, that might just be the missing piece to alleviate the pressure on our special teams during kick/punt returns. Plus as a slot receiver in the mix with his quickness, oohwee I could see the field burning up.


  75. d1島 July 6, 2010 10:48 am

    Recall reading that Hall was a 3-sport star in HS. Maybe Trap could “help out”?


  76. d1島 July 6, 2010 10:49 am

    Aaron,

    Ask Coach Weis.

    …oh, try wait! He not there anymore! 😆


  77. papajoe2 July 6, 2010 10:53 am

    # 72 USC’s Hendersen is 5 star recruit that may be headed to Miami. If UH could get him and SMU’s OT Jeremy Hall to help our OL, I would feel more comfortable about the stability of the OL. I just feel that the OL will be our weakest link in the upcoming season. If they cannot protect the QBs then it will be a long season. I really hope the linemen prove me wrong.


  78. MichiganWarrior July 6, 2010 10:59 am

    #64… Slugger…
    Yeah, UHWest used to consist of a couple of portables. They’ve been wanting/trying to build the place up, but everything is of course tied to funding. Would be nice to have a UH bookstore out there too, but it’s probably not a high priority at the moment.
    As for opening in any of the shopping centers out in Kapolei, you run into all of the costs associated with being a tenant in a mall, plus paying for extra employees. I don’t think Rainbowtique would want to add more costs to their operation. An easier alternative might be to run a kiosk in a mall, carrying most fast-selling stuff like t-shirts, hats, etc. And tweak their inventory based on customer demand/requests.

    #71… d1…
    That’s how to think outside the box!!! Get the kid on campus first!!!


  79. MichiganWarrior July 6, 2010 10:59 am

    Umm.. I meant #75…


  80. MichiganWarrior July 6, 2010 11:00 am

    stupid, arthritic keyboard.. sometimes he type whateva he like, nevamind me…


  81. BleedGreen808 July 6, 2010 11:03 am

    Merchandise–

    UH should open one up in every major airport in the State of Hawaii. Colleges like OU, ASU, UMinn, etc. are already doing it. Jim D, what you say?

    BTW, good morning!


  82. Shoko July 6, 2010 11:05 am

    Have no doubt Allen Sampson will be a threat. The kids super fast!
    Hope Alex Dunnachie is improving on his directionals compared to last season.


  83. madeinhawaii July 6, 2010 11:08 am

    Maybe they should come up with a Rainbowtique Fan Wagon… a large semi-pulled container shop that goes to various events and just opens it’s doors and ramps… I’ve seen one on TV that just automatically unfolds and opens up … pretty amazing stuff. Bet they could do solid business at Kailua Beach on Weekends… as well as Waimea. Japanese Tourists will eat up some of that stuff.. towels.. beach wear… visors.. hats… flip-flops… etc… I believe registered non-profit organizations can sell on the beach.


  84. MichiganWarrior July 6, 2010 11:12 am

    #83. ooh good one! I’ve seen those mobile shops open up too at NASCAR and SEMA events!


  85. Stretch July 6, 2010 11:14 am

    MIH – Rainbowtique has two trailers that they pull around to special events to sell UH items. I don’t think it’s an everyday thing.


  86. BleedGreen808 July 6, 2010 11:16 am

    Chauncy, Lefotu, and Loeffler will be All-WAC before their career ends. And if we win a lot of games year in and year out, one of them could very well be All Americans. This is beginning of a wonderful Mack era. UH will get better every year.


  87. BigIslandkurt July 6, 2010 11:16 am

    Purple drank…..codiene…..dip….all of that been goin’ on for years down in south Texas and Louisiana. They was always doin’ somthing crazy down in Houston and NOLA. A couple of pretty famous rappers died because of these off-da-wall chemical concoctions.

    BiK


  88. Shoko July 6, 2010 11:23 am

    Purple Drank. The new Gatorade? Doesn’t Florida still receive profits from their Gatorade patent?


  89. Pride. July 6, 2010 11:27 am

    Wish Brashton Satele lots of luck in fall camp with the Jets. Need to be a special teams monster. Play on every team and make plays on every play in the pre-season.

    Same goes for local boy Kepa Gaison who graduated from Utah this past May. Kepa is being given a chance to make the Falcons roster as an OLB. He also needs to be a special teams monter there also. His dad was the special teams captain there 27 years ago.


  90. papajoe2 July 6, 2010 11:30 am

    #83 mih, what is flip flops??


  91. Pride. July 6, 2010 11:32 am

    Hearing good things about John Estes in Jacksonville. Experts there say that he has been a pleasant surprise. Funny thing is that apparently the coaches are not surprised. Coaching staff would like to keep Estes around to be able to let go of a seasoned vet who is taking up too much room under the salary cap. If Jags can free up some salary cap space, that would make the owners and front office very happy. So in a way, the bosses at Jacksonville are pulling for Estes to be successful.


  92. madeinhawaii July 6, 2010 11:35 am

    Stretch…

    Hmm… if only these trailer shops could be opened on weekends at the aforementioned with guest appearances by some of the Warriors past and present…

    …Weekend Flag football with the Warriors during the off-season wherever that truck pulled up would be awesome… Two warriors on each side… all the rest of the players would then be picked from the crowds that gather… wonder what liability insurance would cost? What a way to build an international fan base, eh? Flag football on the grass, sand… or even water!


  93. haka July 6, 2010 11:38 am

    BleedGreen808,
    #86
    I also think that Coach Mack’ s era is just beginning. In 2008, he got a late start on recruiting. The two classes since are his. Not being a head coach before led to many mistakes and became an eye opening learning process on and off the field. With all that in the books now, I think we will really see “his” team. The recruiting, I think, has been pretty good and we will see if they pan out. No more excuses from a coaching prospective as they should have it together by now. Like you, I believe Mack’s time is now! Go Warriors!


  94. Pomai July 6, 2010 11:50 am

    Here is a unique idea, Upper Campus forgives Athletic Department debit.


  95. Pomai July 6, 2010 11:51 am

    I know I know I’m just dream’m


  96. haka July 6, 2010 11:55 am

    sweet dreams are made of these
    who am i to disagree?


  97. Pomai July 6, 2010 11:57 am

    Ok here is another idea. You would have to check with compliance but what if the bookstore hired say a few well know student athlete to work in the mobile vans and when making a sale the customer just happens to ask said salesperson for their autograph.


  98. Committed Road Warrior July 6, 2010 11:58 am

    jm2375:

    When are you heading out my way (IIRC)? Had another triple-digit high temperature today, and expecting the same tomorrow.


  99. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc July 6, 2010 12:01 pm

    Once again, I screwed up by accidntally deleting a rather detailed post about vendor contracts when I went to get contact information on another website. Essentially what I said was all contracts have expiration dates, and there will be an open bidding process starting about four to six months before the expiration date. Contracts can be modified, but they cannot be canceled unless there are confirmed legal or performance issues.

    As of this writing, UH West O`ahu is located on the campus of Leeward Community College. They have a bookstore out there. Whether the contract can be amended to set up an area in the bookstore for a Rainbowtique branch is something worth investigating. However, the campus is currently about ten miles away from Kapolei.

    If I recall correctly, the Waikiki Rainbowtique is part of a much larger deal between corporate sponsors and the University of Hawai`i Department of Athletics. That can be checked out with Carl Clapp since he’s often involved in these kinds of negotiations.

    Again, all of this is public information.

    Garret: There hasn’t been a fee set up since the deficit started accumulating. That means earlier money issues cannot address how the fee will be distributed.

    Once the fee is established, then a portion of the money will stay directly under the control of Jim Donovan for current fiscal expenses. The rest assigned to Athletics will be used to reduce the long-term deficit – and that will be handled jointly between the AD and the Manoa Fiscal Office. .

    There are only two ways to improve athletic programs in the short and medium-term run: Go after corporate & alumni donors and hold twice-a-year major fund-raisers dedicated to these programs. Well-planned fund-raisers can raise hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    Tuition is being raised over time – I think that the next bump is in 2011. I’m not sure on the date, but it is going to happen. It is up to Jim Donovan as head of the Department of Athletics to get a piece of the action.

    #######################

    Essentially, here is the UH budget process. The fiscal year starts July 1. Starting later this month, each department and program on every single campus will begin in-house discussions about what will be needed during the next fiscal year.

    By the middle of August, all departments will have put together their final budget requests for the upcoming fiscal year and will transmit them to the various colleges/schools where the deans will go through a similar process.

    NOTE: The budget requests include going after legislative appropriations and other funding resources such as grants. The budget requests will be broken down into two categories: Operating and Capital Improvements. The former is generally paid for out of our taxes, tuition and grants whereas the latter is paid for by issuing bonds, special federal programs such as Stimulus Funds, and even earmark grants through the Congressional Delegation.

    By mid-September, all of these decisions will land on the Chancellor’s desk where she will convene another committee made up of administrators she directly oversees as well as the deans. They will grind out their recommendations which will then be transmitted to the Board of Regents and to the UH System administration where they get the opportunity to oversea everything.

    By the middle of November, the University’s entire budget for all of its campuses will be submitted to the Legislature and even to the Administration although much of what goes on financially with UH is out of the the Governor’s control.

    If you want to have a say in how things are done around here from a financial perspective, then you have to get involved directly. I assure you that the deans and department heads spend time at the Capitol as well as major donors – and even union reps talking up particular construction projects.

    The University of Hawai`i has at least three full-time employees working on policy issues located in the President and the Manoa Chancellor’s offices. This does not include deans and department chairs whose job descriptions include schmoozing with legislators and high-ranking state administrators.

    If UH Athletics wants more money, then it has to be really pro-active. That means doing a lot more than what has been done in the past. However, there are no rewind buttons on life and so blaming a former UH president or athletic director or Manoa chancellor does not move us forward.

    The student fee is a first step. What Don Weir is doing is another first step. What the coaches want to do with their win-loss records is still another first step.

    I have no doubt that Jim Donovan will be assertive and speak up for the Department of Athletics; however, other programs and departments will have their advocates speaking up as well.

    One way to provide him the support he needs is to stop making snarky comments about “upper campus” and start publicly supporting the fact that the University of Hawai`i is not a farm team for professional sports but a major institution of higher education in fields as diverse as astronomy to theatre to engineering to medical research – and then make it very clear that UH’s academic success can be and will be tied to its athletic successes as well.

    For example: I’ve been told by a very knowledgeable source that several researchers at the John Burns School Of Medicine are interested in examining the differences the types of training make in different sports. I have no details other than the key researcher is a huge fan of women’s volleyball and men’s baseball.

    Have to get back to work – the organization I work for is planning two major community service projects on July 25 and August 21 which involve dealing with as many as 18 different government agencies at all three levels of government.

    I hope that folks from here will turn out since both projects will have a major impact on improving the environment. We always have tasks for people with physical challenges such as pre-event publicity, volunteer registration, driving from one location to another with refreshments for field volunteers.

    Post-event activity on July 25 will include (hosted) pizza & cold beverages in an air-conditioned establishment. The August 21 event will include breakfast before and a (hosted) barbecue with live entertainment afterwards.

    Will have more information shortly.


  100. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc July 6, 2010 12:05 pm

    Pomai:

    “Upper Campus” cannot forgive the debt because it does not have that authority. If you want to change that, then you will have to go to the Legislature and get a bill passed to authorize the Board of Regents to do so.


  101. al July 6, 2010 12:16 pm

    the maui news is reporting that…

    the duffer had a hole-in-one over the weekend.
    hence, the name change…
    please call me ace and not duffer.


  102. chopsueyboy July 6, 2010 12:24 pm

    Last year after the Washington State game in Seattle,
    my connecting flight forced me to stop at Kahalui, Maui airport on the way home.
    They had a small selection, but better designs than what I’ve
    seen available at all the various shops on Oahu. Too bad only those with boarding passes that have gone through security will ever see them.


  103. Pomai July 6, 2010 12:35 pm

    #101 WassupDoc:

    OK MarkT dey you go.


  104. Manoa July 6, 2010 12:37 pm

    I understand that a significant tuition increase is in the works– there is simply no choice, because university costs have gone up and there is not enough money coming from the state.

    This increase will hurt the UH Athletic Program and alll of the teams– especially football.

    The Athletic Department will NOT get any portion of the tuition increase, but the Athletic Department will pay more for all of its scholarship athletes to cover the tuition increase.


  105. Stephen Tsai July 6, 2010 12:46 pm

    Manoa:
    You’re correct in that it does impact the athletic department.
    I’m not exactly sure of the specifics, but as I understand it, a tuition waiver isn’t just that anymore. Now there actually has to be an exchange of money. The money will be refunded, I believe. But it’s like if I’m going on a trip and I have to front the money. Not so easy.


  106. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 1:05 pm

    my daughter told me she had to pay more for tuition than what I mentioned yesterday. She had to pay around $7,000 last year and this coming academic year, she will have to pay around $9,000. One of her textbooks costs $300. Needless to say, we are helping her with the tuition.

    Back in 1968, my annual tuition at UH was $220 and I thought that was high. Of course, I had a 4 yr scholarship, but my hourly wage from my campus job was just $1.45/hr.


  107. Slugger July 6, 2010 1:12 pm

    gigi-hawaii,

    Unbeknownst to me, you were living across the street from me when you were going to UH. That was a long time ago…

    Guess no lunch with NYUH.

    Esme & out…


  108. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 1:15 pm

    Slugger,

    Huh??? Did you live on South King Street from 1965-1968???

    Before that, I lived in Manoa.


  109. kama krab July 6, 2010 1:20 pm

    Howzit Everybody


  110. kama krab July 6, 2010 1:31 pm

    Well you know what,

    With regards to tuition at UH, it is still far below what alot of schools out there charge. Like for instance myself. At this time I am paying back over $50,000 of student loans for my AA and BA. At this point I really have no simpathy for the amount of tuition students at UH pay. To me it dosn’t matter how much you have to pay just as long as you come away with the diploma.

    It’s like my friend told me couple of years ago when I was deciding whether to finish my degree or just wait till I could afford, he told me “There is no pricetag you can put on a college degree so might as well suck it up, cause when you done, you going be able to find one job that going payoff all your debt”. And I must say that guy is one smart dude.


  111. kama krab July 6, 2010 1:36 pm

    What I do worry about though, is with the increase of tuition, the athletic department would have to fit the bill for the scholarships which will increase the budget even more. I will really feel bad for JD once this happens because the increase will put the department even further behind the eight ball.

    Hopefully there are people out there that have the big bucks to really make a difference. Don’t get me wrong, alot of little donations will go along way but with multiple multi million dollar donations, maybe just maybe UH can make it to the next level.


  112. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 1:37 pm

    kama krab,

    Education is priceless…


  113. Old Diver July 6, 2010 1:42 pm

    # 101

    I thought UH had autonomy? Are the individual colleges that make up the UH system different from the athletic department? Are they being asked to operate like a business? Are the goals of the athletic department that much different from the rest of the university? Isn’t the athletic department worth more than two million dollars a year to the State? In terms of TV exposure for the University which increases enrollment, tourism dollars etc.? Just thinking out loud.


  114. d1shima July 6, 2010 1:43 pm

    Congratulations to “Ace”
    🙂


  115. kama krab July 6, 2010 1:48 pm

    Amen gigi #113

    Oh and nice to see you back on the blog.


  116. papajoe2 July 6, 2010 1:57 pm

    A few years ago the University of Hawaii was rated as one of the best bargains in the US to get a college education. I know since then, the tuition has been raised, but I believe most, if not all, universities raised their tuition. Does anybody know if the UH’s tuition is still listed as one of the cheapest or the rank as far as $$ tuition? I still feel for all the students that have to pay tuition with its price increases, but if UH is still a bargain then we just have no choice. With a fixed income, I am trying to get by too, with all the price increases, like sewer (again), the bus, golf, and others. Students still have to suffer with those price increases that I go through. Like Kama Krab says, get a degree to get a job that you can pay off your education comfortably. Good luck to ALL the students and study hard, get it done, and enjoy the experience.


  117. Don Weir July 6, 2010 1:58 pm

    Pomai,
    Give me a call when you have the chance

    There are many licensed vendors for UH merchandise. How about Ala Moana donating a cart for UH merchandise? Take the profits and open a venue in Kapolei.


  118. papajoe2 July 6, 2010 2:00 pm

    Congrats to “Ace” too. I never had a hole in one, but one of my former bosses used to call us workers aces. Only thing he spelled it different: a-s-s-e-s. how you figga?


  119. (Jesse) James July 6, 2010 2:04 pm

    Papajoe2 #119….MWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA


  120. RedZone July 6, 2010 2:47 pm

    I think that the university should look at all of their 10 campuses and make UH football their team too. I keep hearing how UH is Hawaii’s team.


  121. J-FORCE July 6, 2010 2:51 pm

    Go Defense!!
    Go Offense!!
    Go Warriors!!
    Beat Trojans!!


  122. madeinhawaii July 6, 2010 2:52 pm

    Wonder if the boosters could make money selling UH apparel and souvenirs at the Aloha Stadium Flea Market? Sell the discounted stuff there, offer flat rate mailing services for US Mainland. … Certainly UH could find a UH Fan that can print T-shirts cheap with the basic logo and royalty free “fan art”?

    Japanese tourists are always on the look out for a dozen or so “Hawaii” originated goods between $3 – 12 as general gift items.. and much more for those close family members, as well as themselves.

    Rent a booth for, uh.. what is it now? $85? (Ask Center Plate to donate it!)
    Ask for volunteers to man the booth (Maybe one day a month?).
    Drive the trailer in…
    Open shop.
    End of day.. count the receipts… thank the volunteers… buy them lunch…
    drive off into the sunset…


  123. duffer aka Ace (iPhone) July 6, 2010 3:01 pm

    Yep, that’s me…Ace. 🙂


  124. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 3:28 pm

    Congrats, Duffer!!! You are a better golfer than I am. I really want to take lessons from a swing coach, but can’t afford it right now. Until I learn how to swing properly, I am not going to perpetuate bad habits by practicing at the driving range.

    Too bad, because Kekoa gave me a beautiful set of golf clubs that belonged to his now-deceased mother.

    The best time to golf for me is evening. The sun is low and it’s not too hot.


  125. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 3:30 pm

    And, yes, I still wore muumuus to the driving range. Some things never change. LOL.


  126. Koa-mahu July 6, 2010 3:32 pm

    WOO-HOO!!!

    way to go, braddah Lingle – U DA MAN!
    (no mo’ 444) 😆


  127. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 3:35 pm

    Koa aka LV,

    Yeah, I read about Lingle’s veto. Too bad!


  128. chopsueyboy July 6, 2010 3:40 pm

    gigi-hawaii

    you must have felt rich
    back in 1968, mom & dad paid me 25 cents an hour
    and let me work 80 hours so I could get $20 for the week.
    1971, I got a car and worked at Kalihi bowl $1.80 an hour daytime
    and worked Leeward Bowl $1.80 an hour nights
    From my background, I thought 80 work week was normal. YIKES!
    Those were fun days and lots of free practice time in the alleys


  129. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 3:45 pm

    Chopsueyboy,

    You must be a bowling champ by now!!! Why don’t you challenge ST? Might be fun to see who wins. haha.

    So you got a car in 1971? I got mine in 1979 at the age of 33. Before that, I walked a lot. It was a Dodge Dart and had rust and the radiator leaked. Terrible car.

    Now, I own a 2002 Hyundai Accent. Great car that never gives me any trouble.


  130. Puhi July 6, 2010 3:46 pm

    Aloha kakou,

    I knew Chauncy W.

    maka’ina’i as a child. He was a beast. His calves bigger than my thighs. At ‘Aikahi park he hit a home run that got stuck 30 feet high in a fence 50 feet behind the home run fence. Something like that. I haven’t seen him in a while but he has only one fault; he’s too nice. Hopefully some one will insult his mother and bring out the beast in him, and then yeah, he should start. But if we red shirt him…….


  131. chopsueyboy July 6, 2010 3:52 pm

    gigi-hawaii

    my 1971 car was a purple dodge dart swinger with a black top
    it had so many problems, and it was a new car too
    engine died every time I turned left so I had to quickly shift to neutral
    and start it up again before getting smashed by oncoming traffic
    differential problem causes a turbine engine sound
    twice while at HBA’s school, all the wiring short and caught on fire
    engine almost fell out, mounts were broken
    no lemon law yet.

    eventually in 1974, I placed an ad to sell the car
    only one person came to our house
    since he knew where we lived, I asked him to get his mechanic to check
    out the car first because we had so much problems.
    He didn’t care, he wanted to blow it up on Hawaii Five-O.
    Never saw the episode but I did see the one at Kalihi Bowl with Erik Estrada
    and at mom & dad’s Tasty Chop Suey where Chinn Ho Kelly died from an explosion.


  132. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 3:56 pm

    Chopsueyboy,

    hahaha!!! unbelievable!


  133. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 4:07 pm

    They should make bowling an Olympic sport. I don’t do well when I bowl in an actual alley with actual bowling balls.

    But, I challenge anybody to play WII GOLF with me. I’ll win hands down!!!

    I kid you not.


  134. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 4:07 pm

    I meant WII BOWLING. grrr


  135. Da Punchbowl Kid July 6, 2010 4:15 pm

    Howzit Puhi!

    Wow! I nevah see you long time! How you?!


  136. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 4:15 pm

    Back in 2008, right after the Super Bowl, I invited some Tsai-kos to play Wii Bowling in my home after we ate lunch. Fun time.

    Garret won $10 for winning his division.

    Jojo’s 9 year old daughter won the grand prize of $30.

    Then we switched to Wii Target practice. Jason won $10 for that game.

    And I think A-Joe won $10, too.

    There were 12 of us altogether. Great times.


  137. chopsueyboy July 6, 2010 4:20 pm

    gigi-hawaii

    had to give up real bowling after breaking my wrist ice skating with our son
    long time ago. I only tried WII bowling a couple of times when it first came out
    and azngamer808 was shocked I could beat him


  138. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 4:22 pm

    chopsueyboy,

    That’s too bad you broke your wrist.

    Maybe that’s the reason I don’t bowl well (actual game). I had surgery on my right wrist/hand for carpal tunnel syndrome. The hand is really weak.

    But Wii Bowling – no problem.


  139. Jason July 6, 2010 4:35 pm

    gigi only wins at Wii Bowling because she walks in front of people while they are playing. 😀


  140. al July 6, 2010 4:36 pm

    Homey…there’s a challenge for you…wii golf.


  141. al July 6, 2010 4:39 pm

    #139….now that explains your golf swing.


  142. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 4:41 pm

    JASON!!!

    Where you been??? hahaha! You remembered that!

    Yeah, when Jason was wii bowling, I walked in front of him and he lost. Didn’t you get a 2nd chance, though, and STILL LOST???


  143. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 4:44 pm

    Hi, Al.

    You think so?

    Could be.


  144. Dennis Halloran July 6, 2010 5:30 pm

    Papajoe, the last time I did a comparison for California residents, it was still cheaper for UC applicants to go to UH Hilo or UH West Oahu than be an instate attendee to Berkeley or any UC campus. Manoa was about a push
    Even paying the out of state UH rate


  145. madeinhawaii July 6, 2010 5:38 pm

    What? Chopsueyboy..gave up bowling after you broke your wrist? Should have been like my dad and learned to bowl with both hands. On one league night my father was having a difficult time breaking 180… he kept shaking his head and couldn’t figure out why his ball wasn’t breaking as usual… till I pointed out that he had his right hand ball but was bowling with his left hand.


  146. chawan_cut July 6, 2010 5:41 pm

    sounds like there needs to be another bowling tournament….. real or wii….


  147. tommui July 6, 2010 5:44 pm

    Hey Duffer/ACE!

    You too good!


  148. Koa-mahu July 6, 2010 5:44 pm

    my wrist is limp, too, but it’s not because i broke it. bwahahahahaha.

    🙄


  149. madeinhawaii July 6, 2010 5:58 pm

    Duffer/ACE….

    Gotta do this Japan style… The guy who makes the whole in one … buys everyone around drinks!


  150. Slugger July 6, 2010 6:06 pm

    CONGRATS, duffer, the ACE!

    gigi-hawaii,

    My Mom knew who your aunt was. She (& Al) remembered that you lived across the street from us. I used to live on the property where Alan Wong’s restaurant is located now. Behind McCully Drug store, the fishing store & barber shop.


  151. Slugger July 6, 2010 6:08 pm

    Jason,

    I need another slushie float! It’s your fault… 😛


  152. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 6:12 pm

    Slugger,

    small world, eh?

    McCully Drug Store — I remember we used to buy comic books there when we were small kids visiting my grandparents.

    Alan Wong’s — We dined there in January for my birthday.


  153. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 6:23 pm

    #137 — SUGAR BOWL (not Super Bowl)


  154. Ralph July 6, 2010 6:26 pm

    ESPY voting: last call, you’re allowed to vote 3 times, my guess because I site has blocked me from voting for best upset again :). I don’t know if it is per computer, but I did not log in with user name or e mail address, I can only assume they tagged my computer somehow.


  155. Pomai July 6, 2010 6:31 pm

    Ralph I don’t know about that I have voted everyday since I found out about it, just clear your cookies every time.


  156. chawan_cut July 6, 2010 6:35 pm

    oh great, got the letter from UH saying to check my accounts because my data probably got stolen from the parking office.
    i want free lifetime parking.


  157. chopsueyboy July 6, 2010 6:39 pm

    madeinhawaii

    got same problem as your dad
    holes drilled for a righty


  158. duffer aka Ace (iPhone) July 6, 2010 6:42 pm

    mih

    Did that! Cost me a few.

    Holes in hole are as much luck than anything else. Heck even ST or even Stretch have a good chance of making one. My money’s on PP! A-Joe just swings from the wrong side.


  159. duffer aka Ace (iPhone) July 6, 2010 6:45 pm

    Glad whitey wasn’t there. Those darkside merchants are killas on the credit card.


  160. roysan16 July 6, 2010 7:02 pm

    Re-Noisemakers for the USC game: We need a rallying cry, a battle cry and a energizer for the home team.

    I agree everyone in the stadium needs to get a hold of those long colorful horns (Vuvuzela) that we saw at the World Cup matches (or any other horns and noisemakers) and really become the twelfth man on the field for Hawaii against USC. If the stadium lifted the ban of having noisemakers for one game it would make the stadium rock. It would be wild. Inspiring. It may even lift our boys (and coaches) to new heights. I think having something like this, and evoking spectator’s participation so that they do feel they are the twelfth man on the field, would entice more fans to come to games in the future. If this is within NCAA rules then I think UH should go for it.


  161. madeinhawaii July 6, 2010 7:14 pm

    duffer aka Ace…

    Forgot to extend my congratulations! Congrats!… .. Hope you saved the ball for framing.


  162. Stephen Tsai July 6, 2010 7:19 pm

    Don’t think there’s a ban on noisemakers at UH. Student section is given Thunderstix. The only thing students are guilty of is being passe.


  163. Slugger July 6, 2010 7:21 pm

    roysan16:

    The only problem with lifting the ban on noisemakers is that Hawaii fans don’t know when to be quiet. They would be blowing the vuvzelas while our QB is trying to call the play.

    ST ~ I think you need to write a column on “stadium etiquette” for the fans a few weeks before the season. Thank you! And please mention that “if you’re wearing a lau lau hat, please don’t remain standing; you’re blocking our view!”


  164. SteveM July 6, 2010 7:28 pm

    duffer — congrats on the hole-in-one! I hear people can go weeks before they hit one… 🙂


  165. Stephen Tsai July 6, 2010 7:34 pm

    Slugger:
    I don’t try to legislate behavior.
    I’e always felt things correct itself. Just like this blog. Someone goes too far to one side side, the tide pulls back.
    If someone makes noise when UH has the ball, another fan will bop him on the head.


  166. Stephen Tsai July 6, 2010 7:35 pm

    Re: Bowling
    Need to go real bowling. But at Pali Lanes. The food is better at Aiea Bowl, but the lanes are kinder at the Pali.


  167. duffer aka Ace (iPhone) July 6, 2010 7:39 pm

    Mahalo mih, Tom and al, slugger brewskis on me at the next t-gate I get to go


  168. SteveM July 6, 2010 7:46 pm

    ST — did you get your own ball? A ball that is drilled to fit your hand will give more consistency. You might ask Rich2176 about this. 😆


  169. duffer July 6, 2010 7:52 pm

    SteveM

    It took me nearly 40 years before I got my first one! Only three for my second! 🙂


  170. SteveM July 6, 2010 7:58 pm

    duffer — congratulations! Seriously!


  171. Ralph July 6, 2010 8:01 pm

    congratulations duffer, now you can move on from miniature golf to a “real” golf course. LOL 🙂


  172. jm2375 July 6, 2010 8:06 pm

    Howzit Tsai-kos!

    CRW – #99 – I saw that on the news last night. Arriving 7/19 and heading south to see family, then back up to DC Sun 7/25. Leave 8/1.
    Does the water still taste really bad?

    Ace (aka Duffer) – congratulations!!

    ST – oh, so now, you figure it out. j/k… Besides, Aiea is more expensive.

    Bowling – anybody up for a Blog Bowl sometime next month? Let me know.


  173. Slugger July 6, 2010 8:08 pm

    Mahalo, ACE! I don’t drink brewskis anymore, not often anyway. But I’ll raise my cuppa kope in a cheer for you at the next T-Gate.

    A hole in one is a feat!


  174. jm2375 July 6, 2010 8:09 pm

    CRW – in the 7 years I lived in DC (OK, most of it was for school), the temp never went above 100. You are so lucky…. 🙄


  175. jm2375 July 6, 2010 8:38 pm

    did i chase everyone away again?


  176. chawan_cut July 6, 2010 8:41 pm

    i do that too.


  177. chawan_cut July 6, 2010 8:47 pm

    see. i even chased you away. par!


  178. Slugger July 6, 2010 8:48 pm

    I’m going to sit down & read a book. I’m running away from my computer…


  179. jm2375 July 6, 2010 9:04 pm

    i’m here c_c. I ain’t that lame…


  180. jm2375 July 6, 2010 9:58 pm

    testing…


  181. Kekoa July 6, 2010 9:58 pm

    Duffer ~ Congratulations on your Ace!

    So now you have *Aces in 2 Places!* At least you didn’t do it at a tournament. Pops made his at the Hickam Course during a tournament. The players attending the awards ceremony made him pay dearly for that Ace!

    We can celebrate with you at the USC t-gate for the season opener!


  182. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc July 6, 2010 10:00 pm

    Old Diver:

    July 6th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
    # 101

    I thought UH had autonomy? Are the individual colleges that make up the UH system different from the athletic department? Are they being asked to operate like a business? Are the goals of the athletic department that much different from the rest of the university? Isn’t the athletic department worth more than two million dollars a year to the State? In terms of TV exposure for the University which increases enrollment, tourism dollars etc.? Just thinking out loud.

    The University of Hawai`i System is semi-autonomous. It receives its funding from the Legislature, but the Governor cannot withhold the appropriations as s/he can from all of the other state agencies and departments – ncluding the Department of Education.

    To be blunt, the Department of Athletics is way down at the bottom of the list of gross income generators. Federal and state grants as well as private foundations and donations & gifts for all kinds of research programs bring in well over $100 million to the University every year. All of these require very careful accunting procedures – and yes, they are expected to operate in a business-like manner.

    When I have a a few moments free later on, I’ll try to get a list of the research grants awarded throughout the entire system so you can appreciate how much money comes into and goes out of the University of Hawai`i System these days.

    The Department of Athletics has value, but nowhere else in the UH System does any program, department, school or college generate the losses that it does.

    What needs to happen is that the teams must win and costs must be kept under control and donors & corproate sponsors must take on the responsibility of funding these programs similar to the way that the federal government and foundations fund the academic research programs.

    There are several long-standing laws which also need to be amended or repealed – and that means dealing with State Hose & Senate leaders – the chairs of the Higher Education Committees, the Judiciary Committees and the $$$$ Committees plus the Speaker/President and the Majority Leaders. Without the concurrence of these 10 key leaders, nothing will happen – nothing good is likely to happen.


  183. Stephen Tsai July 6, 2010 10:18 pm

    We’re shooting a commercial tomorrow at UH.
    If you show up, at 7 a.m. or so, you might be able to get into the shots.


  184. Da Punchbowl Kid July 6, 2010 10:20 pm

    Way to swing it, ACE!!! 😉


  185. ╦╤─ homey ︻╦╤─ July 6, 2010 10:23 pm

    Wii bowling, real bowling, no matter, I take on all. After all, there is no physical contact so no one can get buss up.


  186. SteveM July 6, 2010 10:33 pm

    ╦╤─ homey ︻╦╤─:
    July 6th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
    Wii bowling, real bowling, no matter, I take on all. After all, there is no physical contact so no one can get buss up.

    Get physical contact…especially when one makes contact with the floor. Sore. I can show you how. 🙁


  187. ╦╤─ homey ︻╦╤─ July 6, 2010 10:36 pm

    SteveM – then that is your problem. I have no problem like you. Like I said, no physical contact. LOL


  188. SteveM July 6, 2010 10:43 pm

    homey — true dat. I guess I’ll stick with Wii bowling. I used to have a very fast approach delivery. But now–speed, numb feet and two extra rice bags around the tummy don’t mix. 🙂


  189. ╦╤─ homey ︻╦╤─ July 6, 2010 10:51 pm

    Sheesh SteveM, you get a longboard, bowling ball and shoes all collecting dust. No can use the feet and rice bags as an excuse…just do it!


  190. OldDiver July 6, 2010 10:54 pm

    #183

    Guess I’m still not seeing the whole picture. The athletic department is losing about two million dollars a year. Hawaii Taxpayers give UH I’m guessing over $150 million dollars a year with none of that going to the athletic department. The question is from an accounting stand point how is only the athletic department losing money?


  191. blue and red '11 July 6, 2010 11:04 pm

    Stutz will start very soon too. UH also just offered my boy starr Sua!


  192. ╦╤─ homey ︻╦╤─ July 6, 2010 11:05 pm

    hmmm. I would say the expenses.


  193. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 11:06 pm

    This is the way I structured my Wii Bowling tournament:

    Organize 3 teams of 4 people each.

    1 person from each team wins $10.

    The 3 winners (1 from each team) compete against each other. The winner wins $20 grand prize or a total of $30.

    Fun, too!


  194. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 11:08 pm

    If I host another tournament, I’ll invite you, Homey!


  195. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 11:10 pm

    The “sore” losers can duke it out by playing Wii Boxing.


  196. ╦╤─ homey ︻╦╤─ July 6, 2010 11:27 pm

    I guess I won’t be playing Wii boxing.


  197. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 11:31 pm

    That’s because you won’t be making physical contact. LOL.

    BTW, STEVEM, you too will be invited (again). You and Peaches. But if I remember correctly, Peaches played better than you!


  198. Slugger July 6, 2010 11:36 pm

    Practice at 7 am, too? WooHoo!

    Wonder if NYUH will make it before he leaves?


  199. Slugger July 6, 2010 11:37 pm

    200!


  200. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 11:39 pm

    ST,

    What is the commercial for? To tout the Star-Advertiser?


  201. SteveM July 6, 2010 11:39 pm

    That could be quite a tournament, gigi. I predict homey vs. joje for the championship unless “twinkle toes” A-joe makes a comeback.


  202. LizKauai (iPad) July 6, 2010 11:43 pm

    Congrats, ACE!

    Nitey nite and Tsweet. Tsai-ko Dreams!


  203. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 11:43 pm

    I just hope everybody shows up on time. Last time, we ended up eating lunch super late and the Chinese food got cold.


  204. SteveM July 6, 2010 11:45 pm

    gigi — I was operating under a handicap… the food was really good and I was too close to the table… 🙄


  205. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 11:47 pm

    nah, Steve, no lie. There was no handicap that I can recall. LOL. excuses, excuses.


  206. Stephen Tsai July 6, 2010 11:48 pm

    Commercial is to promote this blog.
    Lee Cataluna, Mary Vorsino and Andrew Gomes also are shooting commercials.


  207. UHfan808 July 6, 2010 11:51 pm

    Good evening (which is nearly morning), Tsai-kos and Tsaikettes, Lurkers and Lurkettes,

    OMG, this is my *first* visit on this blog site! (sowee!)

    Nice new place ya got, ST! = ) Kinda interesting; feels almost like home…ahhhh!

    Just wanted to stop by say “hi!” and see what the new mirror-finish Koa wood furniture looks and feels like. ; )

    Going to bed now and will visit again soon.

    Good night everyone! = )


  208. gigi-hawaii July 6, 2010 11:57 pm

    ST,

    So it’s a TV commercial?

    You should have a RADIO commercial, too. Maybe Michael W Perry?


  209. jm2375 July 7, 2010 12:07 am

    yup, ST has a face for radio. j/k.


  210. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc July 7, 2010 12:47 am

    Old Diver:

    The University of Hawai`i System receives funding from the Legislature for a wide variety of services in addition to faculty salaries. Please open up the Hawaiian Telcom White Pages phone book and look at the pages banded in red at the front. Turn to pages 22-27 and look at all the listings on these pages. That’s about one-twentieth of the number of professional employees. Add to that all the clerical & blue-collar workers plus nearly 50,000 students on all ten campuses and we’re talking about a lot of people and a lot of money.

    In fact, the Department of Athletics does get money from Hawai`i taxpayers. We pay clerical and blue collar salaries for people working there as well as professional salaries including coaches; we pay for the employer’s share of health insurance; we pay the employer’s share into the retirement fund; we pay back the bonds borrowed to build the facilities in which the games/matches are held.

    Who do you think buys the computers the secretaries – not the coaches – use? Or the toilet paper in the men’s room?

    I do. I’m a Hawai`i taxpayer.

    What the state taxpayers pay and the students pay in tuition & fees along with the federal and foundation grants is something most people don’t ever think about.

    Ticket sales and donations through Ahahui Koa Anuenue are used to defray the expenses of each team – uniforms and equipment and recruiting expenses and travel costs and some coaching costs. If not enough money comes in, then the Deopartment runs a deficit which is covered by the UH Administration.

    That means the Department of Athletics employees get their paychecks, the custodial staff is provided with brooms and cleaning supplies to clean up The Stan and The Les, and the utility bills are paid.

    As for what other programs or departments might be losing money – that’s what I said I would check on and report back.


  211. al July 7, 2010 1:36 am

    duffer aka Ace (iPhone):

    July 6th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
    Mahalo mih, Tom and al, slugger brewskis on me at the next t-gate I get to go

    say, acer. i’ve switched to dom perignon these days.


  212. Pomai July 7, 2010 1:50 am

    #183 WassupDoc – your kind of lowballing it Doc, I heard it’s more like 360 Million for this past year.


  213. Grandparent Rights July 7, 2010 2:02 am

    Good post, thanks


  214. Garret July 7, 2010 3:41 am

    Congratulations Ace!


  215. Garret July 7, 2010 3:56 am

    I like this quote from Letuli in today’s paper:

    “Our job is football. I could have played (music), but I thought it was more important to focus on training.”

    And this quote from Spencer Smith:

    “I would rather work out than make money,. We want to win the WAC. That’s our goal, not making extra money.”


  216. Garret July 7, 2010 4:06 am

    BSU’s *free* replacement of their blue turf began yesterday.

    Bronco Stadium began to say good-bye to ‘blue turf’ number four.

    Field-Turf officially began tearing up the defective field Tuesday morning.


  217. Garret July 7, 2010 4:13 am

    Looking at TCU’s disbursement from the MWC we can compare how the MWC and WAC treat teams that go to a BCS bowl.

    WAC teams that go to a BCS bowl get $3 million from the WAC. They have to pay all expenses with that, so if UH went to the Orange Bowl then UH would *lose* money. The new WAC rule takes away the payday for making a BCS bowl…there are a *lot* of other reasons why it is great to make a BCS bowl, of course.

    MWC teams that go to a BCS bowl get $5 million. They reward success much more than the WAC!


  218. Annoddah Dave July 7, 2010 5:02 am

    ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs,

    Wow! UHFan808 has come out of the cave! Will wonders ever cease??? Guud to have this old time blogger back…..


  219. MichiganWarrior July 7, 2010 5:34 am

    To clarify my post #78… (and in response to Doc #100)…
    After my oldest daughter graduated from high school here in Michigan last year, we sent her to live with and help out my parents back in Hawaii. Sometime within the past year, she attended an open house at UHWest with several other relatives. They passed out info on the new possible location of the campus out in Kapolei, on land being donated by James Campbell specifically for a UH campus. When I asked what else was out there on that day, she said there were a couple of small, square, wooden buildings, a bunch of tables with people passing out informative brochures, etc. I called her last night to clarify, and she said at first, she thought it was in Kapolei. Since she was new to the area, having only spent ages 2,3, and 4 there, she knows now that the drive to the campus took longer than it does to get to Kapolei, which is where we’re from and where she works.
    So, long story short, when I said she told me there were a couple of portables at UHWest at Kapolei, it was in fact out at LCC. She knows this now since her boyfriend goes to school at LCC too. Hahaha! Egg on me! The next time they have some time, I’ll ask her to wander into the bookstore to see if there’s any UH merchandise for sale.


  220. d1島 July 7, 2010 6:00 am

    Great Morning All!

    Nice article about the variety of experiences for the Warriors this summer. It’s good that some of them are able to get some different activities outside of football and school, especially the kind of activities that keep a young fella out of trouble.


  221. d1島 July 7, 2010 6:02 am

    Anoddah Dave,

    Yep. It was nice to see UHFan808 finally making it here and break away from that cyber-farm/restaurant world for a little bit!


  222. Garret July 7, 2010 6:27 am

    The Modesto Press has an interesting article about all of the players that may transfer out of USC. USC’s depth could be a lot less by the time they go to Aloha Stadium…but I wish that some of their players were transferring to UH instead of Louisville, Tennessee, and possibly Fresno State.

    According to a radio interview, Malik Jackson said that Mitch Mustain and several other USC Trojan players are going to transfer to other schools. Jackson who recently made his announcement to transfer and play the rest of his 2 years of eligibility at the University of Tennessee, also said that he may try to convince other players on the team to go with him to Tennessee.

    Below are our opinions on who are going to transfer out of USC (sinking boat):

    Announced:

    1) Jordan Campbell = transferred to Louisville (Big East)

    2) Malik Jackson = transferred to Tennessee (SEC)

    3) Seantrel Henderson = scholarship released, possible transfer to Michigan, Miami or Ohio State

    Projected

    1) Mitch Mustain = possible transfer to Tennessee, Fresno State, Tulsa, Auburn, Big East schools

    2) Marc Tyler = possible transfer to Fresno State, Boise State, Utah, Notre Dame, Michigan, Louisville, WAC schools

    3) Travon Patterson = possible transfer to Boise State, Louisville, Conference USA schools

    4) David Ausberry = possible transfer to Fresno State


  223. Garret July 7, 2010 6:32 am

    It appears that the starters for USC aren’t transferring, but some of their backups (like Jackson) are transferring for a chance to play right away.

    Jackson went on to say that the main reason he transferred was not due to the severe sanctions but rather the chance to play and that Tennessee wanted him. We see this as a great move for Jackson and others who have transferred or released from USC commitments.


  224. Shoko July 7, 2010 6:39 am

    I remember a time when the BCS bowl disbursement was 70-30 in the WAC. Wonder if the WAC is the only conference that has that 50-50 split. Might have to do some research on that when I have more time. Unless, someone here already knows 😉


  225. Garret July 7, 2010 6:46 am

    Shoko,

    The WAC changed its disbursement from 70-30 to the current 50-50 split last summer. Yes, the WAC is the *only* non-AQ conference that gives so little to the school that makes a BCS game.


  226. chopsueyboy July 7, 2010 7:07 am

    duffer

    Congratulations!
    I’ll stick to bowling with gigi-hawaii
    at least I don’t have to go look for a ball,
    it rolls back to me in air-conditioned comfort and snack bar.


  227. Shoko July 7, 2010 7:10 am

    Garret,
    When I think about Fresno State and Nevada pulling in 1.4 million end-of-year WAC payout and UH only receiving 950k, especially when you consider the Bows Softball and Baseball teams won conferene titles, sort of makes me wish revenue disbursement was split equally like the SEC. However, I realize football and basketball are the revenue generators for schools and conference and payouts should be disbursed accordingly.


  228. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2010 7:13 am

    SLUGGER AND CHOPSUEYBOY,

    Could you please email me at

    glendahinchey at yahoo.com

    mahalo.


  229. chopsueyboy July 7, 2010 7:23 am

    gigi-hawaii

    email sent…mahalo


  230. LizKauai (iPad) July 7, 2010 7:29 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka and Hi Ho!


  231. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2010 7:29 am

    Just call me gigi. No need add hawaii. More simple that way!


  232. al July 7, 2010 7:31 am

    Mitch Mustain…this will be his third college when he lands somewhere. was highly recruited out of hs. notre dame chose claussen over him so he went to arkansas. left there after being demoted to backup for usc. and now he will seek another transer.


  233. djmitcho July 7, 2010 7:35 am

    Good Morning everybody! Hope everyone has a good day


  234. UKU@LA July 7, 2010 7:53 am

    Warriors n Tsai-kos GOOD MORNING from LA!
    Koakane, give a call when get chance.
    ALOHA ALL!

    MANEO !!!


  235. Shoko July 7, 2010 7:56 am

    Considering Mustain’s tumultuous college career, he should transfer to Fresno State or Tulsa. It seems verytime he transfers to a BCS school, he always ends up as a backup QB. If he wants playing time, stick with the small schools. 😉


  236. Kekoa (iPhone) July 7, 2010 8:00 am

    Good morning Gigi!

    Glad to see you wanted to hang around the new clubhouse. I thought I would hear some stories about how you had improved your golf game.

    No doubt about it, practice hitting buckets of balls and groove that swing. That’s the ticket!

    Using the wii is for fun, but it can lead to bad habits in your grip and swing with a real golf club.

    Anyway, nice to see you back on track. Maybe you can meet some of the new faces on the blog at the USC t-gate.


  237. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2010 8:26 am

    Hey, Kekoa!

    I rarely see you on the WB. How come? Are you that busy? LOL.

    Gotta hire a swing coach first. But the one I contacted wants $75 hr. That will make me bankrupt!


  238. haka July 7, 2010 8:29 am

    Pretty disgusting, the thought of other teams picking the pockets of USC for used trojans!


  239. ╦╤─ homey ︻╦╤─ July 7, 2010 8:41 am

    Kekoa – That’s why there’s that adage, “Can’t teach an old dog new tricks”.


  240. (Jesse) James July 7, 2010 8:44 am

    Good morning Tsaikos….hope all have a great day.


  241. tommui July 7, 2010 9:05 am

    ACE/DUFFER:

    You’ll save $$ on me – I usually opt for 7-Up, ginger ale or tonic water!
    But if you are going to get Dom Perignon or Louis Roededer, AL can have my share!

    Good morning all.


  242. madeinhawaii July 7, 2010 9:07 am

    Morning…

    What a surprise that Dana doesn’t have a formal contract yet. Whose in charge of executing the contract? Upper campus or Lower?


  243. Da Punchbowl Kid July 7, 2010 9:10 am

    Good Morning Gangeez!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

    I wonder how Tsai’s commercial shoot went this morning. Any breaking news about a broken video camera? 😆

    Koakane could be Tsai’s stunt double.


  244. ╦╤─ homey ︻╦╤─ July 7, 2010 9:13 am

    Well if Duffer is going to bring beer, I request a 6-pack of Sam Adams Utopias. That’s all.


  245. madeinhawaii July 7, 2010 9:16 am

    Tsai gets a stunt double to do a “walk and talk” ? Which one does the talking?


  246. (Jesse) James July 7, 2010 9:19 am

    homey..I’m a traditionalist and go with “Boston Lager”….


  247. (Jesse) James July 7, 2010 9:20 am

    MIH…Mwahahaha….can you imagine Tsai’s body with DPK’s voice coming out of it…MWAHAHAHAHAHA


  248. ╦╤─ homey ︻╦╤─ July 7, 2010 9:25 am

    (J)J – I see you are a “Missionary” type of guy…


  249. Da Punchbowl Kid July 7, 2010 9:28 am

    Tsai should be so lucky.

    I can’t wait to see his commercial. Yan know, its such a rush knowin’ a media figure like Tsai. 😆

    If Ace is buying, I’ll have a Red Stripe, please.


  250. (Jesse) James July 7, 2010 9:29 am

    homey…that can be a good thing…especially since I’m always “in Prayer”….mwahahahahaha


  251. Kekoa (iPhone) July 7, 2010 9:29 am

    Homes ~ There’s always that chance that someone will take your advice and practice, practice, practice!

    Gigi ~ Yes, I’m busy with 2 big projects, so my time is limited these days. It will mean employment for a lot of folks when it is finished.

    Waiting for a telecon with the gov’t folks in 30 minutes. Talk to you later.


  252. Da Punchbowl Kid July 7, 2010 9:31 am

    Congrats to homey for being the only person to ever use “(J)J” and “Missionary” in the same sentence.

    (Besides me of course, but that doesn’t really count.)


  253. gigi-hawaii July 7, 2010 9:42 am

    Hey, Duffer!

    What about gigi? I congratulated you, too. Look above. If you’re in a buying mood, I’ll have a bottle of CHAMPAGNE, my fave beverage.

    Mahalo!


  254. (Jesse) James July 7, 2010 9:46 am

    DPK….Was da Pordagee’s missionaries???? MWAHAHAHAHAHA


  255. ╦╤─ homey ︻╦╤─ July 7, 2010 9:49 am

    (J)J in prayer position…on his knees.

    DPK – Red Stripe and ganja.


  256. ╦╤─ homey ︻╦╤─ July 7, 2010 9:50 am

    oops, should have wrote “ganja mon”.


  257. ╦╤─ homey ︻╦╤─ July 7, 2010 9:52 am

    (J)J – They were plantation workers similar to the asian imports…and gigi, they are not asian.


  258. ╦╤─ homey ︻╦╤─ July 7, 2010 9:54 am

    If not for the Portuguese and Filipinos there would be no bodinki’s (sp?).


  259. madeinhawaii July 7, 2010 9:55 am

    (J)J

    Hey? Da Pordagees could have been missionaries.

    I heard dat in odor to kill time, dey when go make a lot of religious carvings out of that soft, almost moldable, stuff they were given while on the boats coming over. DPK, what was dat stuff called? Oh yeah.. nevermind…

    Soap.


  260. (Jesse) James July 7, 2010 9:59 am

    homey….I think that’s the spelling…but pronounced with a rolling rrrrrrr….MWAHAHAHAHA


  261. Slugger July 7, 2010 10:08 am

    I got to practice after the commercial shoot.

    Travis LaBoy & Isa’ako Sopoaga were there. Travis goes back to the mainland tomorrow.

    Kevin Spain has an arm!


  262. Da Punchbowl Kid July 7, 2010 10:25 am

    Slugger –

    Is Tsai still taking make-up off?

    I thought Bodinki meant Puerto Rican.


  263. Da Punchbowl Kid July 7, 2010 10:26 am

    I had a chance to watch Kekuala’s interviews with LaBoy. He’s definitely on a mission himself this next season.


  264. Stephen Tsai July 7, 2010 10:27 am

    New post, with pictures.


  265. Da Punchbowl Kid July 7, 2010 10:28 am

    homey –

    Him who knows it feels it, mon! **


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