SandBows host fall matches, White-Out & free youth tickets Friday
First look at the Sand Bows next month.
The Rainbow Wahine host Cal Poly in a pair of afternoon exhibition duals matches on Saturday, Nov. 17. On Sunday, beach newcomer UC Davis is part of a 16-team pairs tournament. Times for both TBA.
The first dual vs. the Mustangs will be traditional format, the second an experimental “Ryder Cup”-style dual. Instead of submitting a pre-match lineup, each coach will alternate selecting pairs against their counterparts to create the matchups on each court.
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Mentioned last week but Friday designated White-Out vs. Cal Poly. It also is Free Youth Night. Ages 4 to High School
Pre-registration is recommended and available until 4 p.m. Thursday online
Click here to register. Free youth tickets will also be available on game day at the Stan Sheriff Center Box office.
The line for the youth tickets open earlier than the normal box office time.
Hello Cindy,
Thanks for replying in the last post to my statement / question regarding the tiebreakers. I was / am using as reference your October 19th post that cites the Big West manual. I was referring to only the first tiebreaker which states:
1.The winner of the two-match series between the tied teams shall be the automatic qualifier.
It is here that there is no definition of how the winner is determined; by matches won or if even by sets won or if still even by total points won.
If I were to take a narrow interpretation and the matches were even at one match each ( with no regards to sets or points) I would move on to tie breakers 2,3,4,5.
I hope I am not causing you to pull your hair out and if you answered this somewhere else I apologize.
Where did monkhead end up. I know Luytie went to the Cal Bears
Re: Tiebreaker
I take the Big West manual at its word when it explains “in the event 2 teams tie for 1st place in the final standings:”
1. “The winner of the two-match series between the tied teams shall be declared the automatic qualifier.” Nothing about sets, nothing about points, nothing about percentages. Just MATCH, which goes as either a W or L in the stat books. UH is currently 0-1 against Cal-Poly and vice-versa for Cal-Poly.
2. This section expands on the tiebreaker explanation of conference MATCHES.
3. If still tied, now, for the first time, the Manual introduces SETS: “the team with the best total win/loss set record in conference matches against all conference opponents, including the matches between the tied teams, shall be declared the automatic qualifier.”
4. This section expands on the tiebreaker explanation of conference WIN/LOSS SETS.
5. If still tied, now, for the first time, the Manual introduces POINTS: “the team with the highest point ratio in all conference matches shall be declared the automatic qualifier.”
Then the Wahine would most likely lose the tie-breaker for the automatic bid. Their overall conference set record to date is 25-9 to Cal Poly’s 27-2. Highly unlikely Cal Poly will lose enough sets with 6 matches remaining (after the Hawaii match) for the Wahine to close the current 7-set gap.
i say whatever the outcome may be, I’m ok with it. whether you choose to accept it or not, we are in a time of change and rebuilding a program to be as great as it use to. Robyn’s success won’t be immediate, I wish it could but clearly she has so much to learn. I hope the NCAA gives Hawaii a shot, but if they don’t….well that won’t surprise me.
There is a saying that goes something like, “great players make an average coach look great”. “Good coaching makes a average team look better”. Robyn for the most part did not inherit great players other than Emily Maglio. Basically same talent as last year but no Emily and see how they struggle to be competitive. Overall Robyn and coaches have done a good job just to keep the team competitive in the conference. Outside of the conference, it shows the talent level difference. She was left with a pretty empty roster with recruitment the past two years prior to her hire not great. It will take a few recruitment classes to build the talent base and depth necessary to bring the team back to where the fans got used to. Coach Shoji did an excellent job building the program. Too bad the way he retired may have impacted the last two recruitment classes.(year by year status of coach) I’m sure parents of prospects were not comfortable sending their daughters to a school not knowing who would be the coach after the first year.
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Not only that, I think even if Shoji was here, it was getting more and more difficult getting the same kind of talent to come here. Cost of attendance stipends are much higher on the mainland schools and as usual facilities and all that play a part too. Not only that but also a lot of other power 5 schools that weren’t considered to be top programs before were starting to build their programs up, so it’s just that much more competition for recruiting than years ago.
6 Dont understand you comment about “not knowing who the Coach would be after first year”
Sholiʻs retirement Announced the some day Ah Mow-Santos was hired
Most players for 17 and 18 had already committed by time Ah Mow -Santos got the job
They have at least 5 signing on Nov 7
I agree whole-heartedly, regardless of the school & what type of sport, people gottah understand that success isn’t garens, that the new in-coming coach is always working with recruits from the previous coach. On top of that, players can also choose to go elsewhere b/c the coach who recruited them isn’t there anymore. So it’s gonna take a couple of years to change the culture, for everyone to get used to a new coach and new style/system and to get the type of recruits that fits the new coaches style/system. Just gottah be patient.
Robyn Ah Mow and Staff is doing a very good job with what she has for athletes/volleyball players for this season. Remember , she has to bring in 3 transfers (1 and Done) just to be respectable which they have from where they started. I really feel Robyn will start bringing in her athletes from 2019 thereafter. I am sure we will get some “Terminators” and Athletic Volleyball girls in her tenure. She has seen and played with the highest level women, so I know this is just the process…
As far as the season, I am just thankful we have a chance to play Cal Poly here and try to return them the favor. Cal Poly has to lose to us and another team and we just got to keep winning the rest. That’s the only way to the NCAA TOURNEY. This is one of the very few years there is no point to blame the committee. The N.I.T. Tourney is something I feel we could be more competitive in and would consider taking that if not offered the NCAA…The 2018 team worked hard, played through adversities, and play their hearts out in every single match. They deserve an opportunity to extend their season longer regardless the outcome
Its called N.V.I.C tournament…32 teams invite if didn’t make the NCAA 64 team list
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I think what he meant was Shoji had been very vocal about his retirement coming sooner than later and he often said that he would tell recruits to come to the school for the school rather than for him. This could have possibly swayed some recruits who might have wondered if Shoji would still be the coach or not through their whole eligibility, thus also the unknown of who would take over after if he indeed did retire.
Please no NVIC. We are a NCAA or nothing kind of team. Men’s or Women’s basketball maybe.
#8 – yes you are correct; when Robyn was hired, 2017 and 2018 class of recruits(most schools) were already committed. Look what we got in 2017. Half the class is gone (Howling, Lipsicomb) and Gong and Williams are still not ready for prime time play. For 2018, we only had from Shoji’s staff, Trinity C. committed and Kamalei K. a walk on. Robyn had to go out and sign 3 one and gone transfers in Angel G., Tita A. and Sarah L. to fill the roster.
Regarding the NIVC, the women’s basketball team has played in three WNIT’s since 2012-13.
Cindy, just wanted to say I really enjoyed reading the team members’ comments in your story today. Direct quotes give those of us who may never speak with these players a chance to hear directly from them, and again this year I’ve been impressed with the players not only as athletes and team members but also as clear-thinking people with insights that help them on the court and that will be valuable beyond volleyball in the future.
Just one example would be Faith Ma’afala’s comments in your current story and in past coverage.
http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=47278
new thread up for Friday
12. Shoji’s retirement was more about his cancer diagnosis.
16. thanks for reading.