Wilson memorial on Dec. 9

The Rainbow Warrior football will have a memorial service for running back Willis Wilson on Monday, Dec. 9, in the Stan Sheriff Center.

The service is open to the public.

The time has not been determined, although initial plans call for it to be held in the evening.

Wilson, 21, died of an apparent drowning off Sandy Beach this past Saturday.


  1. tommui December 3, 2013 6:50 am


    RIP Willis!

    Glad to see UH will be honoring him.

  2. Stephen Tsai December 3, 2013 7:04 am

    The Rainbow Warriors spent most of yesterday working on the logistics for the memorial service.
    Wilson’s parents, who live in Las Vegas, will be involved in creating the program.
    There’s a viewing this Thursday, although I’m not sure if that’s open to the public.

  3. whitey December 3, 2013 7:06 am

    Good morning Tsaiko. Gm counselor. RIP Willis

  4. papajoe2 December 3, 2013 7:09 am

    Good morning everybody!
    Top 5?

  5. tommui December 3, 2013 7:09 am

    Please remember to cast your vote for Emily.

    The Floridians are casting their votes and their favorite has caught up with Emily as the front runner.

    So please vote http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/volleyball_2013/

  6. papajoe2 December 3, 2013 7:12 am

    What a tragic lost to the world.

    Condolences to everyone who knew Willis, especially his family. R.I.P. Willis Wilson.

  7. UHfan808 December 3, 2013 7:33 am

    Good Tuesday morning, Tsai-kos and Lurk-ers! 🙂

    Again my deepest condolences to the Wilson ohana

  8. UHfan808 December 3, 2013 7:34 am

    Okay, tommui – ty

  9. Stephen Tsai December 3, 2013 7:45 am

    The circumstances are very sad, but it’s nice that the football program is taking care of its own.

  10. Stephen Tsai December 3, 2013 7:47 am

    Wilson didn’t have much money, so several teammates who were living in an off-campus house, allowed him to stay rent-free. The condition? He was in charge of keeping the place neat. Friends helping friends.

  11. NorthShoreFan December 3, 2013 8:05 am

    Good Morning Tsaiko land.

    Reminds you that there is no tomorrow or later. It’s all about right now. Got make sure we say what we want/got to say and do what we want/got to do.

    Rest In Peace Willis, your spirit lives on.

  12. papajoe2 December 3, 2013 8:09 am

    I know people have thought of this before, but I will just state it. I hope that Norm Chow hires Orgeron as an associate head coach, either as offensive or defensive coordinator, with the head coaching job his, if and when Coach Chow retires. We must pay him more than the $170K that we are now paying, hence the associate head coach title.

  13. Slugger December 3, 2013 8:11 am

    Good morning, gang!

    Condolences to Willis’ family & to the Warrior family.

    As Bulla says, “Make memories, make memories, make memories…”

  14. A-House December 3, 2013 8:23 am


    2nd dat idea – I believe most if not all the players, fans, large donors, etc. will support this idea!!!!!!!!!

    Maybe leading to more donations for the football program.

    It would be a heck of a coup!!!!!!!!

  15. A-House December 3, 2013 8:24 am

    oooooooops, forgot to add that it would a heck of a “succession plan” and create great stability for the program

  16. pu'uwai December 3, 2013 8:33 am

    Aloha kakahiaka.

    R.I.P. again to Jack Willis Wilson III. Condolences to his ohana, the team, and his close friends.

    Imua Rainbow Warriors!!!

  17. Papololoco December 3, 2013 8:35 am

    Chow is now hiring or firing anyone, We’ll see the same ole nonsense next year and then they’ll wonder why people aren’t showing up for the games. If chow is gonna remain the HC that’s their choice but when the program goes in the toilet AND IT WILL, I can garantee that the UH Admin will come back and say they didn’t know it was gonna happen and I will use my best Lee Corso line, NOT SO FAST MY FRIENDS!

  18. (Jesse)James December 3, 2013 8:41 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!!

    Glad to see honors being given to Mr. Wilson. Nice to see the team come together, although the situation is terrible.

    Rest in Peace Mr. Wilson….and condolences to his ohana and friends.

    Didn’t someone report that Coach Chow called Orgeron after he resigned???

  19. Leahi2 December 3, 2013 8:45 am

    It was nice of a guy like Willis Wilson to even think about transferring from Washington to Hawaii. This is a nice place to play Division 1 football and its guys like him who can make other athletes to seriously consider playing at Hawaii. My condolences to his family.

    In another matter, because of Tommui and the other blogger Called the Trojan, I became aware of the voting for Emily. So I voted for her the last three days. I never knew what this was all about. Maybe next time I’ll pay more attention.

    In still another matter, I think you guys should stop talking about hiring Ogeron or Dino. That’s just a fantasy! These guys are very successful and are in top demand. You think they would accept the measly payout that UH can afford? Sure its nice to be in Hawaii but I’m sure they love money much more.

  20. Marleysdad December 3, 2013 8:48 am

    #12, that would be great.

    #18, Chow said that on call the coach yesterday.

    #17, blah blah blah. You are so great at predictions, you should go vegas, win all their money with your great foresight, & buy out Chow & underwrite Dino Babers multi-million dollar contract.

  21. Inyoface December 3, 2013 8:49 am

    I recall another player drowning in a river during Von Appens last year in 1998.

  22. Fan December 3, 2013 8:54 am

    17…..give it a rest….you say the same thing over and over…..your point has been made a hundred times…..it gets tedious and boring

  23. NotNasti December 3, 2013 8:55 am

    Why would Orgeron come here? At less than $200K? He will command $1Mil. or more as a DC at a BCS School. UW pays their DC $800K, and their position coaches more than $200K. In college football, you really get what you pay for. At $130K, we got OC Aaron Price. And we all know how that worked out. You have to spend money to make money, so to speak, with no guarantee that a change in coordinators will result in more butts in the seats.

  24. Papololoco December 3, 2013 9:00 am

    I’ll rest when Chow is GONE!

  25. kifi December 3, 2013 9:12 am

    Much prayers and condolences to the Wilson on your loss. We are always ‘ohana, one big Rainbow Warrior ‘ohana.

  26. Inyoface December 3, 2013 9:15 am

    I want to see a comparison of offensive stats from this year compared to last year.

  27. jeezy33 December 3, 2013 9:19 am

    26. I bet the defense dropped more than the offense gained… Offense did improve though. Props to Jordan Wynn and Chris Naeole. The O line improved the most out of every unit and of course SS was a big improvement.

  28. wow December 3, 2013 9:19 am

    Papololoco, man you are a child, first you call ST “Spineless” on the Scout Board than you come to his blog and whine ….. Just go back to the Scout board already….

  29. jeezy33 December 3, 2013 9:22 am

    I know it’s way too early to draw any conclusions but if SS improvement from last year to this is any indication of what a young Jordan Wynn brings to the table, we might have a young star at coach….. Considering he was only supposed to be a grad assistant, his ceiling must be high given that he was asked to run before learn how to crawl by having OC duties before even being a QB coach full time.

  30. Shoko December 3, 2013 9:25 am

    Iosefa’s return and the run game helped Schroeder a lot in the end.

    On another note, MWC postseason awards expected to come out today.

  31. gobows December 3, 2013 9:25 am


    Shannon smith drowned saving cody von appen on kauai in march 1997.

  32. kifi December 3, 2013 9:26 am

    If the football program were an iceberg, then what we see as fans would only be 10% of the football program. What does the other 90% of the program look like? What makes up the other 90%? Yes it’s true that if you measure winning percentage only, then you could most definitely call it a failure. But what are the other factors that go into establishing a long term winning program? Are we anywhere near where we need to be? Are we on the right track? Or are we so far off course that we need to jump ship? I don’t ‘t know the answers to those questions. I have a feeling though that the blog host may be one of the few that does have answers to those questions

  33. kifi December 3, 2013 9:36 am

    Perhaps some bloggers who know a lot more than I do can break down a program, and look at a head coaches’ actual responsibilities. Recruiting, academics, graduation rate, improvement in athleticism, game strategy, clock management, specific position skills improvement, teaching coaches, recruiting coaches, media savvy, public relations, alumni connections, fundraising, communication skills with government officials etc.

  34. kifi December 3, 2013 9:36 am

    Oh yeah, and winning football games.

  35. 808WarriorFan December 3, 2013 9:40 am

    Stephen Tsai…regarding #21 & #31…After the incident on Kauai where UH punter Shannon Smith drowned saving the life of young Cody vonAppen, the UH locker room was named in honor the Shannon Smith. Is that still the case ???

  36. jeezy33 December 3, 2013 9:42 am

    32. I think this state needs to make a bigger commitment to Hawaii sports overall. Starts with the people at the top.

    Oregon wasn’t a good football program over a decade ago. Phil Knight made a commitment to take that program to another level.

    I don’t expect our state to fund us and back us like that but I think it is reasonable to look at Nevada Boise St and Utah. Nevada and Boise St. were last minute fill ins because the WAC was falling apart. Those 2 states made commitments to put money into that program and treat it like their only professional team they had in the state. Utah took it to another level and is now a Pac 12 school.

    If the state of Hawaii can treat this program like a professional team and have some sort of business model, there is no reason why we can’t be competing for conference titles every year. Eventually, the private investors will take interest once again and the program can evolve more.

  37. tommui December 3, 2013 9:45 am

    And when Kifi talks, I better listen.

  38. kifi December 3, 2013 9:49 am

    #37 – I know that the LG is searching for economic opportunities through sports. Honolulu Marathon, K

  39. turfwar December 3, 2013 9:50 am

    Jordan was calling all the plays in the last several games and did a great job. Not every play works no matter who calls the plays but by averaging well over 32 points and close to 600 yards in the last couple of games should say something about the young man’s potential. We need to keep Jordan on staff for as long as possible. On more than one occasion Chow has described him as a young Jon Gruden. Agree with jeezy that Naeole has really turned the OL into the most improved unit on the team. Especially at run blocking. Can’t remember the last time the run game has looked so effective.

  40. kifi December 3, 2013 9:53 am

    Ironman, Sony Open etc. Perhaps Ben Jay needs to show LG a model displaying investment and return involving g the UH football program.

  41. jeezy33 December 3, 2013 10:00 am

    40. Unfortunately, I feel the complete opposite about our Defense and I’ll just keep those thoughts to myself to avoid trouble..

  42. boolakanaka December 3, 2013 10:02 am

    Aloha all! And to the Wilson ohana, there are no suitable words for this type of situation–so, I shall only say–Aloha mai no, aloha aku. For those kanaka maoli who know, that is the circle of life–period. RIP

    As for Orgeron, well, the way he unceremoniously left USC, it was rather unprofessional and a bit of tantrum. I have about 2 dozen buddies who coach college football, from elite D1 programs to division III, and all know, that this is one, a tough tough business, and two, they serve at will. Sure, he would have liked to be retained, but heywhen you lose to both Notre Dame and UCLA, well, that card was punched way before Pat Hayden even contemplated his continued tenure. Further, he was offered to be the top paid assistant in the country, or in other words, command a salary in excess of 1.3 million. see; http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/2/20/4009238/college-football-assistant-coach-salaries-highest-paid. His pride got the better of him in a weak moment, and as they say, “first comes pride, then the fall.”

  43. Rodney December 3, 2013 10:12 am

    Try calling plays knowing your defense can’t hold
    is tough.Hard to play field position.Knowing going
    for 3 instead 7 is iffy.We need help with the middle
    of Defense,we need depth which creates completion
    for playing time.

  44. Derek December 3, 2013 10:12 am

    You cannot have a winning program consistently unless you have a decent defense. That said, statistics can be deceiving. For example, we scored 56 and 49 points against Wyoming and Army. Those 2 teams are also terrible defensive teams. The win over Army was wonderful, but let’s not get carried away here. Army won only 3 games all year, to Morgan State (FCS team), Louisiana Tech, and Eastern Michigan. Those are terrible teams, worse than UH. The second half of the season Wyoming couldn’t stop anybody. If Hawaii played some defense against them we would have won that one also. A good team compliments each aspects of the game, offense, defense, and special teams. Look at Auburn, Ohio State, Stanford, Boise St. etc. any of the good teams out there, they make key plays at key times in the game to help a team wins games. Gus Malzahn said winning is a mindset, an attitude and that they can’t be beaten.

    Do we need to make changes in the defensive coaching staff? Probably. Do we need more defensive talent? Yes. Do we need a better mental approach? Most certainly. Do we need players to make more key plays, big plays, and key stops? That’s #1. The weaknesses that I saw was defensive play recognition. We didn’t do a good job in securing the perimeter on running plays. We got storched by San Jose, Colorado St., and SD State especially. We gave up a ton of yardage on screen plays, especially on 3rd and long situations. And we gave up big yardage and TDs on deep passes. Not to mention, all too often the tackling was atrocious such as against Nevada, Oregon State, Wyoming, UNLV, etc. All that hard work getting tackles for losses were negated because somebody didn’t do their assignments properly. Maybe they overran a play, maybe they were too aggressive instead of just being fundamentally sound and do their techniques. All I know is that if you want to win you have to stop people at the right time somehow. Isn’t it ironic that in the first couple of games we couldn’t score enough points while the defense played not bad and you could see that they played hard. As the season went on, our offense got better, but the defense got worse. This was a very perplexing season to say the least. You can probably say that the best defense in the Mountain West Conference is Utah State and I look them to beat Fresno State this week, or at least cover the +3 1/2.

  45. Former UH Athlete December 3, 2013 10:18 am

    27… Definite props to Naeole for coaching up the line in the last half of year. He’s still new to coaching, but I think he started getting through to the linemen as the season progressed. I wonder if he’s a better film study teacher vs in-practice teacher. Maybe he learned better in the film room in his playing days, thus translating to better film study teacher.

    26… 2013 Offensive stats way ahead of 2012. I know it didn’t look pretty in the 1st half of season, but UH moved the ball.

    2013: Over 400 yards in 7 games; Over 600 twice.
    2012: Over 400 yards once (So. Alabama).

    2013 scoring: 27.4ppg (last 9 games was 32.6ppg)
    2012 scoring: 21.2ppg

    One other area of concern… Does UH have any viable kickers other than Hadden? He was awful this year. He killed momentum by missing several chip shop FGs this year.

    Stepping back to a bigger picture… How about coaching staffs spending a little time scouting kickers? There are so many bad kickers throughout college FB, even on good teams. Kickers have cost Boise St 2 undefeated seasons. Alabama’s kicker lost the Auburn game with 4 missed FGs. I think Alabama’s kicker also missed a bunch of FGs in the 9-6 loss vs LSU a few years ago also.

  46. jeezy33 December 3, 2013 10:18 am

    45. The play that stands out to me a lot was against Army. Up 14 with a little over 3 minutes to go. 4th and 8. They call a time out. The whole stadium knew Army had to pass the ball to get a 1st down even though they are a running team. They send one of the WRs in motion and hit the TE I think over the middle for a easy 1st down.

    It just shows the lack of preparation as far as defense goes. If our LBs and DBs can’t recognize what the offenses are trying to do, then it’s definitely on the coaching for not preparing these guys over the course of the year.

    There were tons of more head scratching defensive plays but that one stood out a lot for me and it was recent.

  47. Stephen Tsai December 3, 2013 10:19 am

    There’s still a plaque with Shannon Smith’s name on it, but it’s more by the entrance to the facility. I don’t think the new locker room actually has a name.

  48. Stephen Tsai December 3, 2013 10:22 am

    My colleague might have been a little bit off.
    With the addition of two GAs, as well as interns, and with Jordan Wynn serving as the play-caller, UH actually had more coaches this year than the year before.
    Also, Aaron Price was not a loss. He interviewed well, came with high recommendations, and appeared willing to learn the terminology. But he was late or missed a lot of meetings — many of which he called himself — and just wasn’t working out. There almost was a mutiny. In his defense, he was going through a divorce and his children were on the mainland.

  49. Stephen Tsai December 3, 2013 10:24 am

    There’s a weird feud going on, which I try to stay out of.
    The staff doesn’t talk to one colleague; another colleague hasn’t been to a practice all season and only writes about Schroeder. (Chow will talk to him only if he goes to practice, but he won’t, for no reason I’m aware of.) I’m in a weird position trying to cover a beat and be a peacemaker.

  50. cocobean December 3, 2013 10:26 am

    #40. I doubt JW was calling all the plays the last several games. Every thing on O runs through Chow. He comes up with the game plan and scripts the first 10-15 plays. I doubt JW comes up with his own play board you often times see an OC refer to. The type board which list play options given the down, distance, score, time, and defensive look. If anything he’s choosing plays off a board that Chow helped him draw up.

    I think it would be a mistake to name JW as the OC for next season. Chow needs some one who doesn’t need a lot of tutoring. Someone who can give Chow some meaningful feedback on pl

  51. turfwar December 3, 2013 10:30 am

    How does a guy not attend practice and still get paid? Or is he not a paid staff guy?

  52. Former UH Athlete December 3, 2013 10:35 am

    Also… UH’s 2013 schedule was front loaded with all their toughest opponents. The scheduling Gods weren’t too friendly with the start of the MW slate this year.

    Next year’s schedule shouldn’t be as tough. Washington instead of USC. Army and Navy are traded out for Colorado and Northern Iowa. I consider that a little softer overall. Colorado is certainly rebuilding right now, so they aren’t as good as Navy.

    2014 West division games will have UNLV, UNR, at home. Fresno, SJSU, and SDSU on the road. Not sure what Fresno will look like after Carr leaves (possibly Deruyter also). SJSU showed signs of decline this year from last, plus I think that’s accelerated next year when Tomey’s love child David Fales graduates. SDSU is will have Muema back, but they are getting worse every year removed from Brady Hoke.

    Not saying they’re instantly going to win more games because of schedule, but on the surface, 2014’s schedule doesn’t to appear to be as tough. Winning more games will come from better defensive coaching and 2012/2013 recruits stepping up and fulfilling potential.

    Offense can definitely improve, but now they’re scoring enough to win games, the defense needs to pull their weight.

  53. cocobean December 3, 2013 10:36 am

    #40. I doubt JW was calling all the plays the last several games. Every thing on O runs through Chow. He comes up with the game plan and scripts the first 10-15 plays. I doubt JW comes up with his own play board you often times see an OC refer to. The type board which list play options given the down, distance, score, time, and defensive look. If anything he’s choosing plays off a board that Chow helped him draw up.

    I think it would be a mistake to name JW as the OC for next season. Chow needs some one who doesn’t need a lot of tutoring. Someone who can give Chow some meaningful feedback on game planning and in game play calling. Someone who can point out things that Chow might be missing from field level. Chow needs a peer not a student especially coming off a 1-11 season.

  54. Former UH Athlete December 3, 2013 10:42 am

    47… That 4th and 8 play for 40 something yards was probably the most mad I’ve ever been watching a game.

    If you have to play soft and surrender 10 yards and the 1st down, so be it. It forces Army to work hard (and burn clock) to get the score. Then there’s basically no clock left for a game tying score (assuming Army gets the onside kick).

    I damn near destroyed my phone when UH gave up that big play.

  55. turfwar December 3, 2013 10:42 am

    Cocobean I wasn’t just throwing something out there. Ask the right people and you will find out for yourself. Chow said last night on his show he and Jordan share many of the same ideas on how to run an offense and that timing is everything. Yes Chow can change a given call but he rarely if ever did. The sequence of plays are derived on Wednesdays by the staff and JW keeps with the plan with adjustments as the game unfolds.

  56. Former UH Athlete December 3, 2013 10:48 am

    54.. I think Chow trusts Wynn, however, I’m definitely not in favor of promoting a GA to OC or DC. Remember, GAs are still taking classes for their masters, and they aren’t able to devote all time to football.

    Put me in the Jason Gesser bandwagon. He never played in Chow’s system and may or may not be in tune with his philosophy, but Gesser has coaching experience and was a far more accomplished QB than Wynn. Gesser is young and probably will adapt well to Chow’s philosophies.

    WSU ran primarily single back sets and 3 wide. UH has mostly been a similar set but in gun and pistol.

  57. SteveM December 3, 2013 10:51 am

    Good morning everyone!

    RIP Willis Wilson.
    Condolences to your ohana.

  58. NotNasti December 3, 2013 10:52 am

    I think the staff member ST is referring to is on the Star Advertiser staff, not football team. Three writers covering the football team, ST, Reardon and Lewis. If you read between the lines, you can tell which colleague the football staff doesn’t speak to and which colleague never attended practices and only wrote about Schroeder. Read the back issues (of the SA) and the answers are obvious.

  59. tommui December 3, 2013 10:58 am

    ST in #50: “I’m in a weird position trying to cover a beat and be a peacemaker.”

    Blessed are the Peacemakers – but they get shot from both sides

  60. boolakanaka December 3, 2013 10:59 am

    FUHA…you are on to something. The whole subject of system and/or familiarity with a specific system is one of the main reasons why SARK got the USC job. The SC mafia had wanted to get a name brand, e.g. Gruden, Del Rio, etc…but when that did not pan out, they balked at bringing in a guy who would have to proverbially tear down the program, to create their imprimatur.

    Rather, and this is from folks inside the Hayden camp, the opted to bring in someone who knew the existing recruits, the football systems already in place, and the athletic administration with SC–that person was SARK. As you can tell from sports radio and the like, folks like SC alum like Keyshawn were not entirely embracing of SARK personally, but rather acknowledged it was a status quo pick, that hopefully, and that is a rather large hope, that this would not be a program rebuilding, but rather a reload….time will tell–I have my doubts.

  61. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 3, 2013 11:00 am

    Maybe the GAs are good coaches, maybe they are not. Being an outsider, I don’t think its out of place to question the viability of having graduate school student assistants only 1 or 2 years removed from the game the defacto QB and WR position coach and helping to call the offense.

    They are students first and school is their priority, then coaching.

  62. ai-eee-soos December 3, 2013 11:02 am

    # 51; 54; 57.

    Agree. JW should NOT be promoted to OC.

    need an experienced guy who knows other systems and can see things differently.

    This guy doesn’t have to have an OC title; perhaps Offensive Asst. would suffice, and at less pay.

  63. Derek December 3, 2013 11:03 am

    1) Orgeron will never come here. It’s about the moola!
    2) UW talking to Jim Mora, Jr. today and probably offering him the job. He played for Don James at UW and still has a home there. Maybe as UW coach he can take them to the 2014 playoffs next year. “Playoffs!!!!! Are you kidding me! Playoffs! I just hope we can win another game.” (Famous saying by his father when he was at Indy.)
    3) I missed the Call the Coach last evening. What did Chow say? He is recruiting another QB, a JC QB?
    4) Mariota 1st team All Pac 12 QB. Probably Taylor Kelly from Arizona State second team or maybe Hundley.
    5) After his stint at SMU, JJ will retire on the Big Island. They aren’t going bowling this year.
    6) Boise St. and East Carolina two in the Hawaii Bowl? No Ian Johnson, no Chris Johnson.
    7) Fresno State disappointed me, losing to San Jose St. We could have used some of the money from any share from a BCS bowl bid. Oh well…..
    8) Russell Wilson, I have to say he is impressing me every time he plays. I love the little guys, but he’s just a playmaker and he seems to make the correct decision every time. Not too many guys can out play Drew Brees.

  64. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 3, 2013 11:05 am

    Brandon Doman is another potential OC if he is able to find a workable situation for his family/business.

  65. ai-eee-soos December 3, 2013 11:07 am

    # 59. Yup – I was wondering how long this merger could go on without any

    rivalry between the “heavy weights”.

    BTW, does any other newspaper have TWO sports columnists on the staff?

  66. Rodney December 3, 2013 11:25 am

    How can you write about stuff and not be at practice.
    Is it second hand info,is being lazy. Personally I have
    started to respect Tsai writings.They are most balanced
    and witty!!!!Ferd and Reardon don’t care for much!

  67. Rodney December 3, 2013 11:33 am

    Who ever the colleague is he should man up
    show up and write up!! Seems chic’ n poo.

  68. Shoko December 3, 2013 11:33 am

    Could have sworn I’ve seen DR in one of the pregame interviews this season after practice.

  69. NotNasti December 3, 2013 11:36 am

    69. Shoko, so now you know which colleague never attended practice.

  70. Shoko December 3, 2013 11:37 am

    Ah, so DR is at the interview but not “during” practice.

  71. Na Koa Mike December 3, 2013 11:40 am

    UH vs. Army photos are up.


  72. NotNasti December 3, 2013 11:48 am

    Shoko, try again.

  73. Old Diver December 3, 2013 11:49 am


    Hawaii’s total offense was 11th out of 12 MWC teams with the scoring offense 10th out of the 12.
    Hawaii’s total defense was 10th out of 12 MWC teams with the scoring defense 10th our of the 12.
    The result was a 1-11 record. The Warriors were subpar on offense and defense and will require drastic improvement on both sides of the ball to improve their record. Just harping on improving the defense alone will not change things much in a conference which scores a lot of points.

  74. Rodney December 3, 2013 11:53 am

    #73 Ahhh Haaaa!

  75. Rodney December 3, 2013 12:01 pm

    Why am I reading his columns if
    he doesn’t show for practice
    seems foolish to do so.
    Anyway Tsai REPORTING is No Ka OI

  76. Shoko December 3, 2013 12:06 pm

    Hmm, hard to believe it’s Ferd that is involved in some kind of feud with the football staff.

  77. Shoko December 3, 2013 12:08 pm

    Wait, Ferd doesn’t attend practices and DR is the one that the staff doesn’t talk to?

    Anyway, sounds complicated and will do what ST does: stay out of it.

  78. Old Diver December 3, 2013 12:10 pm

    In Reardon’s defense he is an op-ed columnist expressing opinions popular and unpopular. He must keep his distance to not bias his opinion in favor of a friend. Reardon can state his opinions because he doesn’t require access which he would surely lose if his opinion puts a coach in a bad light. While Dave, Ferd and Stephen all work for the SA their duties are different.

  79. Shoko December 3, 2013 12:26 pm

    As of Monday night, 29,000 tickets have been sold for the Mountain West Championship Saturday between Fresno State and Utah State. Would be disappointing if attendance doesn’t reach 40,000 plus.

    Think Ferd is a hybrid of DR and ST since he still writes columns under “Ferd’s Words”.

  80. Stephen Tsai December 3, 2013 12:46 pm

    I wasn’t going to bring it up, but since nobody was defending me, I thought I’d give the back story.
    Do I think feuds are weird and silly? Yes, on both sides. Do I think this is starting to get personal on both sides? Yes.
    I honestly try to smooth things over.
    Both my colleagues are excellent reporters, extremely intelligent, and have thoughtful opinions. On the other side, UH has good coaches who are smart and have good ideas.
    I’m just the messenger.

  81. st. anthony trojan December 3, 2013 12:47 pm

    sad indeed.. ms. hartong gave us 4 years of excellent volleyball…n when time 4 us to give back..
    we “defer”.. that other lady from florida just passed her in voting…n at one time emily was up by close to 5% points.. you can vote every day.. go do it now.. before you start typing ur opinion here…takes less then 30 seconds.. go post on fb.. tell friends..do it NOW….


  82. Shoko December 3, 2013 12:48 pm

    Just heard that Jim Mora will remain at UCLA. That’s one less candidate for the Washington vacancy. Also, heard that UW DC Justin Wilcox buyout from the university is $1 million.

  83. Stephen Tsai December 3, 2013 1:02 pm

    JJ is not coming back.
    Like I said a couple of weeks ago, he’s really pissed UH sued him.
    Here’s the math on that:
    • JJ’s contract was on the fiscal year, which meant it ran through June 30.
    • His argument was that he fulfilled the terms of the five-year contract by coaching five seasons (with 2007 being the fifth season).
    • UH’s contention was JJ completed only 4.5 years because he left before the start of the 2008 spring semester. UH claimed JJ owed the balance of his contract, which was $400,000.
    • JJ’s agent noted that he was paid $400,000 for the 2007 season. If JJ had to pay back $400,000, that would mean he worked the 2007 season for free.
    * They reached an agreement in which he $200,000 was paid back, with $100,000 earmarked for a scholarship.
    And there’s the back story.

  84. gobows December 3, 2013 1:03 pm

    chow wasted a scholie on a jc punter…that was 1 too many.

    let them kickers walk on and earn it

  85. Marleysdad December 3, 2013 1:03 pm

    Just heard Mariota returning for his junior year.

    Should learn from Colt, get that money while you can.

  86. gobows December 3, 2013 1:06 pm


    in twenty minutes, some knuckle head will insist jj will return to coach hawaii.

    some people just don’t get it

  87. Stephen Tsai December 3, 2013 1:07 pm

    No. 59:
    There are two people who cover the team: The blog host and the always excellent Jason Kaneshiro.

  88. mo808 December 3, 2013 1:10 pm

    Tuesday Greetings Folks!

    Again, my heartfelt sympathy to the family of Willis Wilson! May God comfort and give solace to his family, friends, and team mates!

    Going forward for next year, it would be a very Merry Christmas for me to hear that a new defensive coordinator has been hired.

  89. Stephen Tsai December 3, 2013 1:11 pm

    I don’t think UH “wasted” a scholarship on a punter.
    Alex Dunnachie graduated; UH needed a punter. I don’t think anyone thought that Harding would have the type of year he had. Most of the credit goes to Harding; some credit goes to Demo, who created more than a dozen punt formations.
    UH also held back Jackson Dionne to create more spacing in the classes. Next year, there will be four kickers (Hadden, Uglietto, Santos, Dionne) and three punters (Harding, Guzman, Dionne).

  90. Stephen Tsai December 3, 2013 1:13 pm

    Around the fifth or sixth game, when the line was having trouble, there was debate whether to activate Dejon Allen, who was doing really well.
    Tough call, but it was decided to preserve his future and let him continue to redshirt.
    It was an easier call on John Wa‘a. He was too valuable to the future to break his redshirt year.

  91. Manoa Mist December 3, 2013 1:16 pm

    Nice to see you playing peace maker Stephen. Kind and compassionate, just like the Dalai Lama. If I were Kaumayer, or any of the coaches, I don’t think I’d talk to Ferd. He’s written two columns saying the DC should be fired.
    But to not talk to someone just because they haven’t been to practice? Sheesh.
    You’re not going to win friends and influence people acting like that. As long as you see the games, who gives two rat butts about practice. I mean, we talking about practice! Practice! Not the game.

  92. Former UH Athlete December 3, 2013 1:19 pm

    74… my comparison was based off of 2012 #’s. Fact is 2013 was way better than 2012 statistically. Regarding the rest of conference, everybody’s offensive numbers are inflated because MW defenses are awful.

  93. Former UH Athlete December 3, 2013 1:23 pm

    90… Hopefully Uglietto, Santos, Dionne can push Hadden to improve or maybe surpass him.

    7 of 13 FG attempts is not acceptable.

    By comparison, UH’s opponents converted 17 of 19 FGs this year.

  94. Former UH Athlete December 3, 2013 1:24 pm

    74, 93… Offensively, UH was better

  95. dannyp December 3, 2013 1:25 pm


    If Gesser can bring that Missou spread with him I’m jumping on that bandwagon as well.

  96. Former UH Athlete December 3, 2013 1:28 pm

    91… Glad UH preserved Allen and Wa’a’s redshirt. Looks like they have a good chance at becoming 4 year starters.

    If they turn out well, that will solve a lot of problems the offense had the past two years.

  97. boolakanaka December 3, 2013 1:30 pm

    86…Actually, in many NFL scouting circles, MM stock has been dropping the last month or so. See: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000281338/article/qb-rankings-oregon-qb-marcus-mariota-drops-dramatically The consensus with most analysts is he would do well to stay in school another year.

  98. wasabi December 3, 2013 1:44 pm

    85…the kicker is one of the most important players on a team. How many games have been decided by a field goal? How about a short punt. Not a waste at all…..

  99. wasabi December 3, 2013 1:47 pm

    Heart goes out to the Wilson family. I know what it’s like to lose a young family member. Prayers and thoughts go out to all those touched by this tragedy.

  100. Marleysdad December 3, 2013 1:48 pm

    98, that’s the same thing they said on SC, with a good chance of going #1 overall if he continues to improve his accuracy. Kiper jr had him at #5 & Mcshay at #3 right now. Not much room to move up & a lot to lose by dropping. But really, whatever. I’m a Warrior fan & only a Warrior fan.

  101. NotNasti December 3, 2013 1:49 pm

    82. St. Anthony Trojan: I vote 2X/day (home & work). Thanks for the reminders and link.

  102. ai-eee-soos December 3, 2013 2:02 pm

    “Wyoming: Sources tell us Jeff Tedford is a top target for this opening.”

    might have been posted before.

  103. Old School Dave December 3, 2013 2:05 pm

    Was on the Jason Gesser bandwagon, until I realized that his position coach at WAZZU was Aaron Price. Hmmm………

    Speaking of WAZZU, I think that former Cougar DC and Idaho head coach Robb Akey is looking to get back into coaching.

    Feuds are kinda funny. With guys, you sometimes end up forgetting what the hell you were made at each other for. In some cases you can sometimes have a knock down, drag out brawl, and a day later the two guys are laughing over a brew. With the wahines it’s more “complicated.”

  104. Derek December 3, 2013 2:06 pm

    John Waa reminds me of that great 4 year offensive line starter from Kahuku, Tala Esera.

    Good decision by Marcus Mariota. The NFL will still be there. It reminds me that Russell Wilson stayed in school and ended in the 3rd round. If you are drafted very early in the 1st round that means the NFL team that picks you is pretty bad. That means a lot of pressure to produce right away. Going in the 3rd round like Wilson and Joe Montana worked out great for Seattle and SF. Kaepernick and Dalton in the 2nd round wasn’t bad either. It’s been hard on RG III. The hot guy right now is Nick Foles and he was drafted in the middle rounds.

    UW is looking at Chris Peterson.

  105. Former UH Athlete December 3, 2013 2:24 pm

    96… I assume you meant Wazzu?

    Gesser has no affiliation with Missouri that I know of.

    Under Mike Price’s offense (yes, the father of Aaron Price), they spread the field really wide. WR’s often lined up outside the numbers on their typical formation. Obviously this was before the high tempo stuff that’s common today, but WSU had a very high power offense from the mid-1990’s through 2002. They weren’t a Run n Shoot offense, but they threw it all over the field. During their best years, they always had tall, athletic WRs to throw to. When WSU had good OLines, they were dominant offensively. QB typically wasn’t an issue.

    I remember Wazzu converted a 6’7″ basketball player to WR when Gesser was there. That was impressive to watch him out jump the CB on many TD receptions. I don’t think Gib Arnold has anybody that would translate to the gridiron. Maybe RS Freshman Aaron Valdes… He’s got ridiculous hops and he’s 6’5″. Miah O played both sports but football was his primary sport. Valdes, to my knowledge, doesn’t have a football background.

    JJ stole a few of Wallace’s players during his time at UH. (Tony Akpan and Ikaika Alama-Francis)

  106. dannyp December 3, 2013 2:36 pm


    Nope I meant Missouri. He spent this last year learning the Missou spread under Christensen (former Missouri OC). If Gesser could add some elements of it to Chows passing O we could actually get something potent going next year.

  107. Former UH Athlete December 3, 2013 2:42 pm

    104… nice suggestion… Akey was a very good DL coach at Wazzu. He was pretty good as DC. But the stats declined as recruiting was not good and they couldn’t sustain the level of talent needed to play in the Pac10/12. Doba was in way over his head at head coach, and 4 years of poor recruiting led WSU to a horrible spiral to an awful team once the last of Mike Price’s players were gone.

    ***NOTE: Wazzu spent $60 million in stadium and football facility upgrades. So that helps recruiting tremendously. I love the Palouse, I saw many games growing up in Eastern Washington, but there isn’t anything other than the school to attract the football recruits prior to the investment WSU just made to the football program.

  108. Former UH Athlete December 3, 2013 2:53 pm

    107 ahh…

    It wouldn’t be a big transition to implement some of Mizzou’s spread. Gone were the 2 back sets UH used a lot of last year. Most of what UH ran this year was single back, 3 wide. Mixing in elements of the spread wouldn’t be hard.

    The key is solving the QB riddle…

    I hope UH gets a JC QB, but I’m not holding my breath. Just need Graham or Woosley to be game managers with the running game that’s going to be good next year (pending major injuries). With Allen and Wa’a looking like big upgrades on the line, UH only needs Graham/Woosley to make the easy throws and to not turn it over. Kirkwood, Haynes, and Kemp are legit deep threats, so UH should be able to hit a lot of deep balls off the playaction. Just a question of the QB making an accurate throw, or throw a “SS” floater and the WR goes up and gets it.

  109. Stretch December 3, 2013 2:53 pm

    MarleysDad – did you enjoy the luau?

  110. Rodney December 3, 2013 3:03 pm

    ST is the man!!!!!
    Lets call for Ferd to be fired!!! Lol

  111. gobows December 3, 2013 3:13 pm


    how many of those close games did they win? ZERO! picking up a jc punter to ride the bench for two years, how is that helping the team?

  112. Numba 1 Son December 3, 2013 3:14 pm

    I gotta believe that Chow would be open to mixing up elements of any other type of offense with his base offense. He’s in the twilight of his career and coaching his home state team for the next three years. The last two years must have stung him hard after years of success. This is it and I think he knows it.

  113. Marleysdad December 3, 2013 3:20 pm

    110, yes I did, so did Marley. She was quite happy to give JHT & others a hi-five. I got to chat with a few players, thanking the seniors for their efforts. Talked to Joey too, nice guy & very humble too, as were all the players. Reminded Kwamane about his tweet guaranteeing victory & he joked he should do it next season too. Had a few words with Norm & met Kekaula & Mr. Tsai. All great guys. Thanks again for the experience Warrior Beat!

  114. June Jones, Football Jesus December 3, 2013 3:22 pm

    ST, any truth to this article that I found?


  115. gobows December 3, 2013 3:22 pm

    how do you explain someone with over 50 years of football experience not knowing jack about clock management at the end of a half?

    a. old futt
    b. senile
    c. dementia
    d. all of the above

  116. Rodney December 3, 2013 3:28 pm

    #116 haha but seriously what happen?

  117. Numba 1 Son December 3, 2013 3:30 pm

    #115 this looks like a National Enquier story. No facts, just he said she said.

  118. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 3, 2013 3:30 pm

    does anyone know the history of how the word “old fut” came to be?

  119. Numba 1 Son December 3, 2013 3:34 pm

    #115 plus the article said: Chow has underachieved with a 4 – 2 record. What does that mean?

  120. Numba 1 Son December 3, 2013 3:38 pm

    Re-read the article and saw the byline. Copy and paste with photoshop is awsome.

  121. boolakanaka December 3, 2013 4:14 pm

    119–This usage dates back to the Medieval period, where the phrase ‘not worth a fart’ would be applied to an item held to be worthless

  122. Whats up December 3, 2013 4:46 pm

    Straight from nationalfootballpost.com

    These are just rumors, so take it with a grain a salt.

    Sources tell us that Hawaii head coach Norm Chow is weary of the job already and that the school might be happy for him to move along. There are strong rumors June Jones could return.


  123. NorthShoreFan December 3, 2013 5:08 pm

    Oh no…..

    Old fut is what happens when peeps keep it too long. Gets stale and ineffective. Loses it’s potency. Hence, old fut = no can do too much now, useless, stale etc….

  124. wafan December 3, 2013 5:15 pm

    Old fut. Concentrates the potency. Definitely does not get stale and ineffective. Rather, it creates a lingering and horrificly malodorous experience. Hence, old fut = the inability of others to do too much, unable to enact self-defence measures, causing choking and prolific tearing of the eyes.

  125. wafan December 3, 2013 5:16 pm

    And, a good afternoon, Tsai-kos!

  126. shadow December 3, 2013 5:17 pm

    it’s obvious that it will be next to impossible to land a proven Coordinator given the money that’s available for UH coaching positions. Given that situation, in-house staff reassignments may be the alternative. Example, Demarest promoted to DC & TK reassigned (or leaves to NFL).

    The current staff is very good, some just lack for experience and the intuition that experience brings (e.g., knowing instinctively when in-game adjustments need to be made because you “know” the opponent’s coaches & what they are very likely to do next).

  127. cocobean December 3, 2013 5:23 pm

    #50. #81. The explains some recent SA sports columns.

    #56. Turfwar. I caught that segment of CTC show. Thought Chow was going overboard in his praise of JW. I just can’t believe everythng he says. According to Chow everyone on staff is working hard and doing a good job. Ask him about any coach from Naole to Kaumeyer and he’ll sing their praises.

    My point was we need an experienced OC, Thought Chow’s ego was showing when he praised JW. JW is Chow’s grasshopper from their Utah days. No doubt JW workrd hard and did a good job without being fairly compensated. But my gut tells me Chow sees JW as the start of his legacy and is willing to bring him along rather than bringing in someone who is already qualifed to be OC.

  128. Former UH Athlete December 3, 2013 5:44 pm

    116… Lots of coaches stink at clock management. Half the NFL coaches are bad at it. At least UH was competitive enough for us to complain about it this year.

  129. Former UH Athlete December 3, 2013 5:50 pm

    115… See 84

  130. NorthShoreFan December 3, 2013 5:57 pm

    #125, if it gets to that level, it is toxic and not in the same category. It is considered as a bio hazard..

  131. NorthShoreFan December 3, 2013 5:59 pm

    Sarkesian says, not interested, didn’t interview, love my job,…in the morning, ….two hours later being announced as hc of usc…..really believable guy.

  132. NorthShoreFan December 3, 2013 6:07 pm

    Remember jj mentioning that he didn’t care if the other guys knew what was going to be run because he had confidence his guys were going to execute any way. He was right. Not too many could stop his offense.

  133. Numba 1 Son December 3, 2013 6:13 pm

    Why are we still talking about June Jones III?

  134. NorthShoreFan December 3, 2013 6:17 pm

    Pointing out execution done correctly will work even if the opponent knows what you are going to do. Das all. Don’t want to see him back here.
    With different coaches they bring different things to the table. Take the good stuff and leave the bad stuff. Das all.

  135. Numba 1 Son December 3, 2013 6:19 pm

    Agreed. #115?

  136. Shadow December 3, 2013 6:28 pm

    133: I guess you forgot about the Sugar Bowl outcome & haven’t witnessed the SMU games this year.

  137. NorthShoreFan December 3, 2013 6:48 pm

    Remember and did watch. Now you understand about execution?

  138. Shadow December 3, 2013 6:57 pm

    Understand that you have no inkling about what you’re talking about.

  139. Inyoface December 3, 2013 7:08 pm

    #132 sarkisian is Armenian, they make the best defense lawyers if you catch my drift lol

  140. Inyoface December 3, 2013 8:06 pm

    Will June be our OC?

  141. Warrior Dave December 3, 2013 8:26 pm



  142. NorthShoreFan December 3, 2013 8:35 pm

    Yup, that’s why on the page trying to learn and understand from peeps who actually should be coaching and not posting so much.

  143. Warrior Dave December 3, 2013 8:44 pm


    I don’t agree with the writer. Johnny Football #5???? He’s been MIA the last two games

  144. RB December 3, 2013 8:50 pm

    JJ aint coming back so drop it already. http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/College-Football-coaching-news-and-rumors-123.html

  145. NotNasti December 3, 2013 8:51 pm

    144. The article is two weeks old.

  146. Warrior Dave December 3, 2013 8:57 pm

    If JJ doesn’t come back, I like Dave Reardon’s idea to hire someone like Babers, Rolo or the other young successful ex-player as coordinator with the understanding they will takeover in a couple of years when Chow retires.

  147. Warrior Dave December 3, 2013 8:59 pm

    JJ would never come back as OC. HC or nothing.

    I know ST said he’s mad at the Administration, but they are all gone.

  148. Moocher December 3, 2013 9:54 pm

    ST said no JJ get it

    chow is here for year 3 get it

    we got the most talent now we’ve had in years. chows system, the boys get it, the talent is there, jordan wynn upstairs in the box is just as good as chow’s shadow being in the box. the two will become one if not already and thats a good thing.

    things are all in place for next year and we are not even counting the pick-ups, and bounce backs. IW and TG had better be on the ball.

    SS, the guy took all hawaii’s best punches and he still fought for us. i felt bad for the kid but yeah i’m proud and happy he led the team win or lose, thanks SS. yes we might might laff a bit at some of the ducks you threw and lead feet, but no one will laff at your heart and dedication and commitment to the team and to us…true warrior indeed.

  149. Leahi2 December 3, 2013 9:55 pm

    #133. Remember the year that JJ invited the Fresno State coach to our practice. Later that same year Fresno State blasted our team….and I mean they really took our okole to the cleaners. You go look it up. Jones never invited him over again. Now I don’t believe the Fresno coach ever reciprocated. That incident haunts me as Jones’ stupidity.

  150. nanakuli December 3, 2013 10:10 pm

    Coach Chow’s staff recruits well. 2014 will be 7 and 5 and in the Hawaii Bowl.

  151. 3-Prong December 3, 2013 10:23 pm

    Aloha to Willis and his family…….


  152. wasabi December 3, 2013 11:29 pm

    151… good luck with that!

  153. wasabi December 3, 2013 11:31 pm

    149….4-20 get it

  154. jm2375 (iPad) December 4, 2013 3:23 am

    ST – IIRC, your colleagues had problems with previous coaching staffs, too…

    Condolences to the Wilson ohana.

  155. malawarrior December 4, 2013 6:01 am

    R.I.P. Willis Wilson thoughts and prayers go out to the Wilson Ohana.

  156. Moocher December 4, 2013 7:02 am

    bowl game for shooooor next year. mwc 3rd place finish 🙂

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