Warriors make the grade

The UH football earned a 962 APR averages for a four-year period through the 2012-2013 academic year, the highest score in the program’s history.

In comparison, the multi-year average is 951 for NCAA football teams, 956 for FBS teams, and 958 for Mountain West teams.

The period covers the academic years 2009-2010, 2010-2011, 2011-20012, and 2012-2013.

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At the end of each regular season, the Rainbow Warriors recognize their top football player with the Alec Waterhouse MVP award.

Waterhouse, who died in 1999, still has an impact on the football program. He donated $303,000 to equip what is now the Alec Waterhouse Training Center.

And each year, Waterhouse Inc. donates $200,000 to Na Koa to cover the summer-session expenses for football players. The summer sessions have accelerated the credit-accumulating schedule for players, results that will be apparent with Saturday’s commencement ceremony.

Of the three former Warriors who will participate in NFL mini-camps this weekend, outside linebacker Tavita Woodard earned a degree this past December, and defensive back Charles Clay and inside linebacker Brenden Daley will complete work on their degrees this week.

Fifteen years later, Waterhouse is still the Warriors’ MVP.

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In place of pencil marks on a wall, this picture from 2009 will serve as a measurement of how much Joey Iosefa has changed:



  1. boolakanaka May 14, 2014 8:46 am

    Ekahi: Aloha Kakou! Local boy early favorite to be the number one over-all pick in next years NFL draft, see; http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2014/05/oregon_quarterback_marcus_mari_3.

  2. Stephen Tsai May 14, 2014 8:48 am

    Higgins started ahead of Mariotta at Saint Louis.

  3. PONO May 14, 2014 8:50 am

    One can only hope for more people like Waterhouse. His impact will be felt by many generations of Warriors.

  4. Stephen Tsai May 14, 2014 8:50 am

    Here’s Higgins’ senior highlight video:

  5. Warrior Dave May 14, 2014 9:01 am

    One thing you have to give JJ credit for, although he made changes in the football program, he embraced and respected people who made major contributions to the program. He made sure Mr Waterhouse and Mr. Ben Yee were always given props for their contributions.

  6. Ipu Man May 14, 2014 9:03 am

    Waterhouse produces Rainbows for sure…

  7. Ipu Man May 14, 2014 9:04 am

    Higgins deserves a chance…

  8. Majiro May 14, 2014 9:10 am

    With the 2014 NFL draft history, football guru’s are looking ahead to next years crop of QB’s. Pretty interesting that two of the top prospects for the 2015 NFL draft are Hawaii home grown products. Every body knows about Mariotta at Oregon. Sleeper who’s gaining a large interest is Andrew Manley at Eastern Illinois. He’s listed with Bryce Petty (Baylor), Brett Hundley (UCLA), Sean Mannion (OSU), Bo Wallace (MSU), and Mariotta, as sure fire NFL picks. Eastern Illinois is the home of Tony Romo and Jimmy Garropolo.

    Geez, wonder if UH could’ve used Mariotta or Manley in the upcoming season? Wonder where coach Mac is these days? He’d still be coaching if he recruited the right athletes.

  9. jonj May 14, 2014 9:18 am

    8 coach mac tried recruiting Manley, but Manley was looking for bigtime offers and tried playing the waiting game! Now I believe coach Chow didn’t except Manley as a walk on or transfer from NMSU

  10. Stephen Tsai May 14, 2014 9:30 am

    Actually, UH was recruiting four quarterbacks for 2010, including Manley. The scholarship would go to the one who accepted first. Kevin Spain, at the recommendation of Dennis Erickson, accepted first. Spain was a nice guy and good competitor, but he joined UH with a pre-existing injury.
    Chow was willing to accept Manley as a walk-on with the chance to earn a scholarship. Manley decided to accept the Eastern Illinois offer. Manley is a good guy. I’m glad he has a chance to do good things.

  11. SteveM May 14, 2014 9:31 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Mahalo to Alec Waterhouse!
    He will be remembered by many generations of UH athletes for making a difference.

  12. jonj May 14, 2014 9:33 am

    Mariotta was 1 year starter. Who’s name got big time from going to a Oregon camp who he soon committed at after receiving an offer. Can’t fault coach mac for not offering a kid on potential. They should have after the season he was having, but he had already committed to oregon and I’m sure he knew he couldn’t beat an oregon offer

  13. boolakanaka May 14, 2014 9:37 am

    I actually think Manley has some very Romo-esque qualitites about him.

  14. jonj May 14, 2014 9:38 am

    10 which is kind of retarded on Chow part. A kid with 2 years of college starts and footage. And I’ll bet my left nut Chow put all his eggs in Graham and didn’t extend the offer to manley

  15. Stephen Tsai May 14, 2014 9:44 am

    Somebody just lost his left nut.

  16. jeezy33 May 14, 2014 9:45 am

    10. That’s a double screw up…

    1. You don’t offer 4 guys giving a scholarship to the 1st fish that bites… You prioritize based on who could help you the most… And you def don’t just offer a kid because someone recommends u to him.. If he was so good, Erickson would have kept it to himself in case a scholarship opened up for him. Lets not forget Hawaii had better QBs in the past than ASU did prior to Mack being HC. Recruiting is an art. You don’t shut the door on good football players because someone committed to u in the summer time.

    2. Manley would be our starting QB this year. “No question” about it as NC likes to say. I’ve already seen his name on a few draft boards for 2015 draft. If you look at the options Hawaii has, it would be a no brainer to offer a spot to him. Especially in win now mode.

  17. jonj May 14, 2014 9:48 am

    In the Graham basket*. Haha although with the love Chow was showing Graham he might have wanted to put his eggs in graham. Haha

  18. jonj May 14, 2014 9:51 am

    15 so why didn’t Chow offer a schollie??

  19. Stephen Tsai May 14, 2014 9:52 am

    Manley would have had to sit out a year if he transferred to UH last year (unless he was granted the exemption because of a family illness). UH already had Schroeder, Graham, Woolsey, Higgins, etc., for 2013. I don’t think it was wrong to assume that Graham would be a good quarterback. The one thing I’ve learned in football is you never know. I didn’t think Rolo was going to be successful after his first season. I don’t rule out anybody. But, like I’ve said, Manley’s a good guy and a good player. We all wish him well.

  20. jonj May 14, 2014 9:55 am

    16 I don’t think mac shut the door. Manley was offered a Grey shirt. But who knows maybe mac would have made room for manley like a shutter case.

  21. jonj May 14, 2014 9:58 am

    19 but if he sits out a year. Schroeder is gone. Now u have a 2 year starter in the mix. And didn’t manley have a redshirt??

  22. jeezy33 May 14, 2014 10:02 am

    My conclusion is, Quarterback is the most important position in any team sport. You touch the ball on basically every offensive play. You’re not going to be a winning team until you find one. Just look at the Seattle Seahawks. Insert Russell Wilson and you have a super bowl team. Year before, 7-9 team. Andrew Luck elevated the worst team in football and made 2 consecutive play offs.

    You should never be satisfied or get comfortable with your QB situation. Sign 3 guys a class if you have to in order to get 1 good one. The beauty about those dual threat QBs now days is some of them are athletic enough to move to DB or WR or RB…

    Our current roster has 1 signed QB recruit in the NC era. Beau Reilly. Should have signed 2 minimum maybe 3 to ensure we find a good one. I don’t count transfers or walk ons. Transfers need to contact the HC first, therefore not recruited like high school or JC transfers.

  23. Shoko May 14, 2014 10:03 am

    Haha…pretty funny comments today.

    Anyway, I seem to recall that Manley requested a family hardship transfer waiver when he was released from NMSU.

  24. jimmy the lock May 14, 2014 10:03 am

    Outstanding APR for the football team…what is an APR? 😆

  25. jonj May 14, 2014 10:05 am

    19 from day 1 I said graham wasn’t gonna be the guy. I told everybody on here he’s injury prone and warranted no 4 star rating with the amount of high school games he played.

  26. Stephen Tsai May 14, 2014 10:08 am

    It’s hard to read the NCAA on waivers.
    Jordan Pu‘u-Robinson got one, but not immediately. I think he had to wait until something like the fourth game. Taylor Graham petitioned for one in 2012, but was denied.

  27. Shoko May 14, 2014 10:09 am

    Think everyone, or mostly, everyone realized that Graham ‘might’ be injury prone. However, his injury came from scrambling up the middle against Nevada. If he sat in the pocket, it looked like he could take hits.

  28. Shoko May 14, 2014 10:11 am

    26. It sounded like the request was legitimate, and didn’t think that NCAA wouldn’t approve it. But, yea, they are inconsistent when it comes to such things.

  29. Stephen Tsai May 14, 2014 10:11 am

    I think we’re all injury prone.
    That’s why our HMOs are so pricey.

  30. Stephen Tsai May 14, 2014 10:14 am

    I think he had a very legitimate case.
    I imagine if he transferred to UH or a West Coast school, he probably would have received the waiver. But, like I said, you never know with the NCAA.

  31. jeezy33 May 14, 2014 10:15 am

    27. Graham being injury prone is the least of my worry. His inaccuracy (46%) in year 4 of his college career indicates he’s not a D1 caliber QB. Has a D1 arm and size, but that doesn’t mean much if you can’t hit a moving target. Bring in competition…. As of right now, were going into year 3 with a walk on QB and a 37% passer with 0-3 TD-INT ratio battling for #1 spot….. Lets be honest… There is nothing optimistic about that…

  32. Stephen Tsai May 14, 2014 10:15 am

    I just want to know why the CSU running back didn’t get drafted.

  33. jonj May 14, 2014 10:16 am

    Still you don’t bet all your marbles on a guy who’s 3 yrs removed from high school and had 6-8 starts throughout his HS career

  34. jimmy the lock May 14, 2014 10:21 am

    I’d like to know if recent Cowboy draft picks can lead Romo to the Super Bowl.

  35. Stephen Tsai May 14, 2014 10:23 am

    Jimmy the Lock:
    I do like DeMarcus Lawrence.
    I think Chris Petersen is going to do good things at Washington.

  36. jimmy the lock May 14, 2014 10:23 am

    But what if you bet all your marbles and come out on top? Happy blog.

  37. jimmy the lock May 14, 2014 10:26 am

    Whoa ST, nice segue to Washington.

  38. jonj May 14, 2014 10:28 am

    My question jeezy. Is who would u rather ur QB right now Higgins the guy who doesn’t make to much mistakes and fers the ball out quickly but doesn’t have the strong arm or woosley the guy who makes mistakes and inaccurate but has a strong arm and opens up the offense a bit with mobility?? I take Higgins

  39. Shoko May 14, 2014 10:29 am

    Yep, true, based on Grahams stats his accuracy was very bad especially the USC and Oregon State games. However, I thought the Nevada game he was coming around until he got hurt. After that, given his sporadic use the rest of the season, his non-throwing shoulder might have been bothering him. Was hoping if Graham stayed healthy last season his passing accuracy would have improved. It is what it is, though.

  40. Da Punchbowl Kid May 14, 2014 10:29 am

    Thank you Mr. Waterhouse!

  41. Old School Dave May 14, 2014 10:30 am

    Texas had no one drafted. Hasn’t happened in……well, it hasn’t happened to my knowledge. Louisville had three first-round picks and a third-round pick. Maybe that’s why the former Louisville coach is now at Texas.

  42. boolakanaka May 14, 2014 10:31 am

    While I agree with Jeezy that the QB position is your single most important player, I am not quite on the same page with him regarding the Russell Wilson allegory. Let me explain, while the Seahawks have had wild success the last couple of years, it is not centered, from a strategic perspective, around the QB position.

    Pete’s drafting and team philosophy is based on the notion of obtaining the 53 or so, best athletes you can in the draft, almost regardless of position, and composing a team from this talent. Now, to be certain, while they are drafting, they do draft for need, but it is not always the primary criteria, for their draft selection–rather athleticism is the attribute of primacy. As for the QB position, and I have heard this through many NFL analyst, is that many teams are now considering “slotting the position”, that is to say, that in most instances you will not get a franchise Q, and if you have a sufficent amount of talent with rest of your team, you can still make Super Bowl runs, ala the Ravens, Bucs and now Russell Wilson. So, you can actually get good results with folks that are just above-average, and can make plays from time to time.

    Don’t get me wrong, Wilson is no Trent Dilfer, but he is not at the upper margin hanging out with Manning, Brady, and Brees. What is telling, is that if you look at the Seahawks draft of the last 3 years, in the first 5 rounds or so, and you will see, you have 9-10 starters. And that is a very productive number……

  43. Shoko May 14, 2014 10:32 am

    36. I remember your blog title, “Petersen Principal” and was curious what you meant by that. Thought it meant Coach Pete may have reached his level of incompetence by taking the Washington job.

  44. jimmy the lock May 14, 2014 10:33 am

    Now is that true? Woosley makes mistakes and is inaccurate while Higgins doesn’t make much mistakes. Or is it due to the plays and situations they are in that causes mistakes/non-mistakes and inaccuracy/accuracy? I’ve seen neither this past spring but looking over stats provided in previous blog topics both QB’s had good and bad days.

  45. jimmy the lock May 14, 2014 10:38 am

    Kailua leads Baldwin 2-0

  46. d1shima May 14, 2014 10:39 am

    Great Morning All!

    Mahalo to the late Mr. Waterhouse.

  47. jeezy33 May 14, 2014 10:41 am

    39. I haven’t been to any spring practices so I really have no answer there. I’m uncomfortable with any of the options right now. But based on what Higgins did a couple years ago when he did play, I trust him more than Woolsey after his Fresno game.

  48. d1shima May 14, 2014 10:43 am

    I recall hearing about a then-USC Asst Coach coming to Hawaii to watch a young QB at Coach Vinnie’s weekend sessions.

    Oh, and one of the current group of Hawaii QB’s was there, too.

  49. jonj May 14, 2014 10:43 am

    Well from watching practice and reports of practice. Woosley is the guy who throws more INTS but makes plays with his legs. And Higgins was jus making plays but not the guy throwing deep outs and hitches. Of coarse hard to tell right now since they are playing against a brand new defensive scheme.

  50. jeezy33 May 14, 2014 10:47 am

    43. Come on Kanaka…. I did not say Russell Wilson is Brees, Manning, Brady… But he is the difference in Seattle being a 7-9 team with a below average QB and a Super Bowl contender being a top 10 QB. Top 15 QBs still win super bowls… Big Ben, Flacco, and Eli to name 3. Just like I am not saying Hawaii needs a top 20 college QB. But someone in the top 40-50 range in order to have a winning season.

    And you are taking too much credit away from Russell. He may not average 300 yards a game and 3 TDs but he moves the sticks on 3rd down better than 90% of the league. He’s so accurate on the deep ball. We can hype Marshawn Lynch all we want but he wasn’t winning games in Buffalo. Unger, Okung, and Giacomini were hurt most of the season so he was playing with a make shift offensive line….

  51. jimmy the lock May 14, 2014 11:00 am

    Upset special, Kailua 2 Baldwin 0

  52. Shoko May 14, 2014 11:14 am

    MWC average APR football scores (minimum requirement 930 over four year cycle).
    BSU 988
    USU 988
    AF 976
    SJSU 967
    UH 962
    SDSU 960
    UW 955
    UNM 952
    FSU 948
    CSU 943
    NEV 930
    UNLV 925.

  53. Boolakanaka May 14, 2014 11:23 am

    Jeezy not to take away due kudos away from Wilson, as he played over and above, my point was directed that many teams are now veering towards creating greater over-all athleticism, versus finding that rare franchise QB. For me, the most impressive thing about Seattle was their D, and moreover the total team speed on the defensive side.

  54. Turfwar May 14, 2014 11:29 am

    Holy cow Kailua moves on to semifinals with the youngest and most inexperienced team I can recall. Yesterday they had base runners so excited they were overtaking each other on the base paths but still pulled it off. But an early indication was seeing Maui beat Baldwin last week and Maui looked sloppy yesterday throwing the ball all over the place. But as I told Whitey a couple of days ago the young talent at the 13-14 pony age bracket is very impressive with guys who have a chance to end up being draftable in about 4 years. Waiakea and St. Louis today at 5pm. Huge matchup with Jordan Yamamoto- signed with Arizona and clocked at 93 in Arizona last fall and Kodi Medeiros – lefty considered among the top 2-3 pitchers in high school this year also throwing in mid 90’s. Come support high school athletics. They need the funds. $6 dollars parking and $9 adults.

  55. iwonderwhytheyhateme May 14, 2014 11:31 am

    #29 ST, I got some really nice land I’d like to sell you…Dirt cheap…dirt. ;-).

  56. jeezy33 May 14, 2014 11:32 am

    54. I’m simply using Wilson as a example of what separates average from being great…. What separates lousy and good… Seahawks were 7-9 mediocre ball club with a good defense until they found a QB. Colts have an awful football team until Andrew Luck showed up… And I could flip it saying Colts were great until Manning got hurt.. Sugar Bowl team was great because we had Colt Brennan. Majority of the people I know agree that Hawaii was better the year before the undefeated season. Take him off that team and you get what we had year after.. Average..

  57. NotNasti May 14, 2014 11:41 am

    Good blog today. Lots of healthy debate.

  58. Boolakanaka May 14, 2014 11:42 am

    57-Jeezy I would agree with you certainly on a college level. I think the QB position is especially hard to gauge on the pro level, and folks like Vince Young and Josh Freeman, who both had previously very strong seasons in the NFL, but have proven to be either inconsistent or with a limited ceiling, are prime examples on how difficult it is to identify a premier guy. Thus, if you have one-fantastic….but, if you don’t, there are other ways to build a team, at least in the NFL.

  59. Egan Kawamoto May 14, 2014 12:02 pm

    Mariotta did not play much his junior year because he was injured. I’m pretty sure Higgins would have sat if he wasn’t.

  60. Derek May 14, 2014 12:07 pm

    Take Washington -21 1/2 points over our Rainbow Warriors. 3 reasons. One, Chris Peterson. Two, the QB position, and Three, overall strength of the team, Pac 12 vs Mountain West.
    Top to bottom, UW athletes are better than UH. Remember, UW dominated Boise St. last year.
    UH hasn’t been able to be competitive against Boise St. in recent years. I’d like to think differently, but I have to be realistic. UW lost Keith Price, but Peterson will find either Jeff Linquist, or Cyler Miles (currently on suspension) to be the QB in the fall.

  61. Shoko May 14, 2014 12:33 pm

    “And Chris Petersen said after his first set of spring practices as Washington’s coach ended that his decision on who will replace graduated record setter Keith Price this fall may not come until immediately before – if not through – the opening game Aug. 30 at Hawai’i.

    “Absolutely, that’s possible. Yeah, we could go to game nine, if it hasn’t been decided,” Petersen said. “We’ll take this one day at a time. One day, one game. I know it sounds cliché, but it really will be.”

    Sounds like Coach Pete could do a Kiffin with the starting quarterback on opening game by throwing them into the fire. I like that.


  62. whitey May 14, 2014 12:38 pm

    that’s why vegas makes money

  63. Haleakala May 14, 2014 12:44 pm

    Good going Warriors on keeping your grades up.
    What’s with the Nevada teams both at the bottom of the APR list?

  64. whitey May 14, 2014 12:45 pm

    not too good, both maui teams lost at the hhsaa championship. i guess like they say, back to the drawing boards. snif, snif, snif

  65. whitey May 14, 2014 12:46 pm

    like haleakala, on the bright side, congrats to the warriors for a job well done. way to go team.

  66. whitey May 14, 2014 12:47 pm

    not bad, top 70. back to rain shelter.

  67. gobows May 14, 2014 12:51 pm


    deja vu with usc last year…but keith kirkwood gets behind the 2ndary and catches a last minute td to beat the spread.

  68. Lowtone123 May 14, 2014 12:52 pm

    Wan Nut Lo.

  69. gobows May 14, 2014 1:19 pm

    left nut overrated

  70. jeezy33 May 14, 2014 1:45 pm

    59. Which is why I say we should have been bringing in 2 QBs per class when NC initially got hired…. The more swings you take, the closer you are to finding a gem. As much as I like Zwahlen, we won’t see him till next year. Even next year, he’s probably going to take a year to learn offense.

    Remember when Mack took over, 1 of the smart moves he did was brought in 2 JC QBs right away. The 5 JC WRs on the other hand was kind of dumb. As long as 1 stepped up to the competition, we were gonna be okay. Fortunately the walk on JC transfer(Moniz) ended up being better than Alexander and Rausch… Although I must say Alexander was not bad until he got hurt.

  71. oldtimer808 May 14, 2014 1:47 pm

    If you based your criteria on what Woolsey and Higgins did last year than you would have cause to be concerned about our quarterback situation. The same could be said about Rolo but as we all know know when Rolo got his chance again, he was terrific compared to the year before. Who would have given a 4th string quarterback a chance at the beginning of the season but Moniz surprised everyone. I guess what I’m saying is we don’t know beans even if we think we know so the coaches will start the quarterback based on their judgement. I hope whoever is the starter will have much success. When we coached baseball, the most talented player did not always start due to work ethic in practice, attitude, grades in school despite parents who wanted their child to start. We don’t see all the dynamics behind the scenes on an athletic team so I understand as fans on a blog you base so many opinions on pass performance, hype, hearsay etc. Personally I’m just happy we still have a Division 1 football team and who knows what the future will bring with the coming super conference alignments. My concern is can the UH athletic department change their culture of doing business in the future and being able to develop a creative marketing plan. Ben Jay would be smart to sit down with some of you tsaikos who have contributed some terrific ideas in the past.

  72. Shoko May 14, 2014 1:48 pm

    Here’s another article about Coach Petersen. What’s interesting is the following fan comments.

    I expect growing pains like any coaching change brings implementing a new philosophy, system and culture. However, this is new territory for Coach Pete compared to his days of being promoted from within from offensive coordinator to head coach. Although the 92-12 record as a head coach is impressive, that was based on playing in the WAC and MWC over the course of eight years.


  73. jeezy33 May 14, 2014 1:54 pm

    In other news…. Texas has pulled out offer for Max Wittek… Its down to Hawaii and Louisville…

  74. jimmy the lock May 14, 2014 1:55 pm

    Campbell to semis, 9 – 0 over Kaiser

  75. oldtimer808 May 14, 2014 1:58 pm

    Wow Campbell is one tough team

  76. oldtimer808 May 14, 2014 1:59 pm

    I wonder why Texas pulled the plug on Wittek?

  77. jeezy33 May 14, 2014 2:07 pm

    72. Huge difference….

    1. Rolo had 2 months to learn the offense and work with the team?? Higgins and Woolsey have been working out with the same players and coaches for 2+ years now. Same like Timmy Chang in year 1. He was rushed into the offense.

    2. Jones recruited 3 QBs that year in Flint, Rolo, and Chang. So Rolo had serious competition to beat out. Which is exactly what I am hinting we need to do now until we get one.

    And yes Woolsey might figure it out… But the best way to find a QB is to recruit 5-6 of your guys ( high school and JC) within 2-3 seasons and let the best one start. Last year, Graham was basically handed the job by default. This year, Woolsey was groomed to win the job and he hasn’t taken it. I’m not a huge Wittek fan but I am all for competition so the best guy rises to the top. Also would have brought in a JC guy and let Wittek, Graham, Woolsey, JC guy, Reilly, and Higgins all battle it out… That is my definition of competition…

  78. jimmy the lock May 14, 2014 2:34 pm

    ummmm, Texas looked at his game film?

  79. jimmy the lock May 14, 2014 2:36 pm

    Just read that Kolten is going back to the big show.

  80. Andrew May 14, 2014 2:36 pm


    I’m sure they did that even before they gave him the offer in the first place. They probably realized that they are comfortable with the QBs they already have now.

  81. st. anthony trojan May 14, 2014 2:39 pm

    Remember the Alamo….coach peterson will bring his mind set to pac-12…players…fans…n especially coaches…coach peterson will always have a ‘trick’ play up his sleeve…..

    QB’s should be tested equally without being told….first 10 or so plays have to be scripted…each qb have to run them…not in same order…ball has to comeback to line of scrimmage after each play…no subs unless injury….make it as fair as possible n same for all…is the only true way…then go to film room n evaluate….

    Yea….a good question to ask on the AD show….what plans….scheme…promo… do you have ‘IN PLACE’ to fill aloha stadium first game….wait for answer…you see tsaiko’s….we need a plan for that first game….second game etc…we are lacking ‘marketing leadership’ up there at UHAD….
    Second or follow up question….same as first…just replace ‘first game’ with season tickets…wait for answer….

  82. st. anthony trojan May 14, 2014 2:40 pm

    Remember the Alamo….coach peterson will bring his mind set to pac-12…players…fans…n especially coaches…coach peterson will always have a ‘trick’ play up his sleeve…..

    QB’s should be tested equally without being told….first 10 or so plays have to be scripted…each qb have to run them…not in same order…ball has to comeback to line of scrimmage after each play…no subs unless injury….make it as fair as possible n same for all…is the only true way…then go to film room n evaluate….

    Yea….a good question to ask on the AD show….what plans….scheme…promo… do you have ‘IN PLACE’ to fill aloha stadium first game….wait for answer…you see tsaiko’s….we need a plan for that first game….second game etc…we are lacking ‘marketing leadership’ up there at UHAD….
    Second or follow up question….same as first…just replace ‘first game’ with season tickets…wait for answer….


  83. tommui May 14, 2014 2:41 pm

    Interesting – Texas pulling out on Wittek.

    Too long – like Manley and the UH/NMSU episode?

    What is the Louisville QB situation like?

  84. jimmy the lock May 14, 2014 2:48 pm

    Andrew, that was a joke, I should have added a smiley after the sentence. 😆

  85. Shoko May 14, 2014 2:53 pm

    Makes me wonder if Texas was genuinely interested in Wittek or just going through the motions.

  86. kawika49 May 14, 2014 2:55 pm

    Forget scenes, how about just competence.

  87. jimmy the lock May 14, 2014 2:55 pm

    Maybe Texas was getting irritated from all the Wittek visits.

  88. Shoko May 14, 2014 3:02 pm

    Texas has David Ash (recovring from injury), Tyrone Swoops, who took most of the snaps in scrimmage, and Trey Holtz who is a walk on, and Jerrod Heard who is a 2014 recruit.

  89. Andrew May 14, 2014 3:03 pm


    I like that one better

  90. Whats up May 14, 2014 3:05 pm

    I remember Higgins making a lot of mistakes in games over the past 2 seasons, thats why Sean Schreoder was the starter. Higgins fumbled and threw picks just like Woosley in live game action last season too! Practice is just that, is practice… Some guys do well in practice and some guys turn it on in live game play. With whats on the roster and incoming QB’s I say lets wait until Fall ball to see who really wants the starting QB job.

  91. Warrior Dave May 14, 2014 3:06 pm

    Austin American Statesman is reporting that Texas is pulling their offer to Wittek.

  92. st. anthony trojan May 14, 2014 3:07 pm

    # 1….mr. kanaka….thank so much for that web site…the contents is super excellent…but more important for me….was the nice clean lines….making it so readable n inviting..

    Now go to the UHAD site n see how ‘BUSY’ it is….wow what a difference huh…

    I know some will say is different types of ‘product’ being sold….agree…but with some work…UHAD can adaptn have a better ‘site’ then the present…

    Sponsors can still be on home page…just scroll them one at a time…n give them 100% exposure
    exclusively for a time…above masthead…etc….

    And why not ‘guest’ articles from time to time….from writers like…ST..DR…FERD…many others would contribute if asked….thumbs up…or down…???

    Whitey…no more ne players from camps ne more….to much to do…now ‘dream city’….time for go cruizin…go beach…stay home play games…he he…

  93. Bryson May 14, 2014 3:11 pm

    I can’t believe 4 yrs later and we’re still talking about Manley…Bottom line is Manley was offered he chose to wait for the bigger fish to bite when they didn’t he was left out..If he really wanted to represent Hawaii and The University of Hawaii he was given every chance to…

  94. jimmy the lock May 14, 2014 3:16 pm

    Plenty things get re-talked about on the blog. JJ, Mack, new stadium…

  95. jonj May 14, 2014 3:20 pm

    higgins was always taking 3rd string reps and to think he could just step up to starter and do better is crazy! let him have a full spring and fall with better reps and lets see how he does. I also remember him leading a TD drive that got called back.

  96. Shoko May 14, 2014 3:25 pm

    Louisville added a JUCO quarterback, Patrick Thomas, last month. That makes six quarterbacks on the Cardinal Roster if I didn’t miscount, not to mention one coming in as a 2014 recruit.


    Where else is Wittek going if not Hawaii?

  97. Andrew May 14, 2014 3:25 pm


    I don’t understand how Ben Jay has aspirations to be a part of one the super conferences when they realign and he wants to build only a 30,000 seat stadium. Nothing about a 30,000 seat stadium says big time football. What happens if the team improves and attendance goes back up to what it once was and possibly even more? That leaves a lot of angry fans without a ticket. Sounds a lot like the Sugar Bowl when UH estimated how many tickets they needed and came up way short of the actual demand..I sure hope he rethinks the stadium idea.

  98. HALEAKALA May 14, 2014 4:13 pm

    Baldwin lost! No wonder it’s been raining.

  99. Rodney May 14, 2014 4:23 pm

    Wittek!!!! Comming Hawaii!!!!!!!! Take the 21 1/2 Upset special

  100. gobows May 14, 2014 4:23 pm


    he must have gotten terrible advice, yeah he should have accepted the UH offer which wouldn’t be binding until he signed in february. plenty time for other schools to lure him away. that big time attitude might work for punahou…

  101. st. anthony trojan May 14, 2014 4:34 pm

    # 99 Andrew…BJ…to me is not much of a positive thinker…
    Remember his first action he wanted to take at the stadium….was to close the yellow section…
    n those who had season tickets up there would moved….he then changed his mind…

    Wanted to make changes in the name ….I guess without consulting….he changed his mind…

    Seems he likes to shoot from the ‘hip’ to get reaction from people…strange to me…ne way….

    Wonder what is planned next for UHAD….????

  102. st. anthony trojan May 14, 2014 4:39 pm

    Wittek is not our answer…..just saying…

    Having experience at that position…at ne school at that level…
    AND HAVING PRODUCTIVE experience there….is a very very huge humongous difference..

  103. BigWave96744 May 14, 2014 4:41 pm


    What kine issues braddah get??
    Das ok, we second chance U

  104. Andrew May 14, 2014 4:42 pm

    Does anyone remember what the season ticket figures were like back in the 06-08 years?

  105. al May 14, 2014 4:42 pm

    Louisville has been out of picture for months now

  106. al May 14, 2014 4:45 pm

    Well…I’ve been touting wittek the warrior from day one…

  107. Old School Dave May 14, 2014 4:48 pm

    Read something about Sarkisian making it hard for Wittek to graduate this semester. Bottom line is that Wittek needs to graduate. If not, then it’s a moot issue.

  108. al May 14, 2014 4:56 pm

    What can a coach do to block a graduate?

  109. st. anthony trojan May 14, 2014 5:05 pm

    Al….coach can lie…some have…about what…that would be the intriguing question if so.???-

  110. Shoko May 14, 2014 5:06 pm

    Throw a party during finals week?

  111. gobows May 14, 2014 5:09 pm


    every week is a party for u spoiled children

  112. Shoko May 14, 2014 5:21 pm

    Top Ten Party Schools according to Princeton Review:
    1. University of Iowa
    2. University of California-Santa Barbara
    3. University of Illinois-Champaign
    4. West Virginia University
    5. Syracuse University
    6. University of Florida
    7. Ohio University
    8. University of Wisconsin
    9. Pennsylvania State University
    10. Lehigh University

  113. slenzi May 14, 2014 5:35 pm

    Same debates, same assumptions . . . have to ride with Jimmy #30 on this one:

    …water under the bridge.
    …it is what it is
    …no crying over spilt milk
    …farq it
    …shtuff happens
    …get over it
    … recruit, Recruit, RECRUIT !

  114. Fei Jai May 14, 2014 5:40 pm

    Power come from end of barrel.

    – Mao

    We not going win too much while I head coach

    – norm chow

  115. Fei Jai May 14, 2014 5:43 pm

    When no kan win football games, talk about building a new stadium.

    -jj’s left nut

  116. tommui May 14, 2014 5:57 pm

    I CAN’t see how a coach can prevent someone from graduating unless the guy is taking a course with the coachb. If the student has passing grades and the requisite credits, he graduates.

  117. HiloBilly May 14, 2014 6:38 pm

    Does anyone know the results of the DII baseball game between Nanakuli & KS-H?

  118. Rodney May 14, 2014 6:46 pm

    #108 Al
    Im 100% behind Wittek too!!!!
    The Defense is key to next yr.
    Wittek is the answer to Qb situation.
    Love Higginns,but Wittek is the man.

  119. Fan May 14, 2014 7:30 pm

    The eternal recurrence of the same boring and tired commentary

    Fei Jai

  120. Ralph May 14, 2014 7:37 pm

    KSH 28-5 over Nanakuli, called at the 5th inning. KSH scored 14 runs in the 2nd inning. Time for a beer HiloBilly

  121. Ralph May 14, 2014 7:39 pm

    Hilobilly for your second beer, Hilo 11-3 over Aiea in consolation play. But Waiakea lost to St. L this afternoon.

  122. bowwar May 14, 2014 7:43 pm

    Turn the page and move on…On “off the field circumstance” may prevent Wittek from graduating…No sense pursuing, next…

  123. marleysdad May 14, 2014 8:33 pm

    Mililani looking good, owning the owls tonight.

  124. ALLAN May 14, 2014 9:03 pm


  125. HiloBilly May 14, 2014 9:32 pm

    Mahalo, Ralph. I told the kids yesterday at school, ‘…take no prisoners!’ but I didn’t think it would be like this. At least they got over the 1st game hump: our teams tend to take their licks in the 1st game & then come on real strong after, a little too much too late. Thank you again, and yeah, I did enjoy a 2nd cold one & some poke!

  126. marleysdad May 14, 2014 9:52 pm

    Upset alert! Down goes the #1 seed. Bye bye MPI. TROJANS WIN.

  127. whitey May 15, 2014 5:41 am

    good to see the UH Vulcans golf team doing well. duffer is one proud and happy guy.

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