VB camp opens

Sorry for the delay in posting. I went to the opening of volleyball training camp, which last something like five practices before the opening of the 2009 season. vb1.JPG

No, you’re not looking at the front of a five-dollar bill. This is middle blocker Jarrod Lofy:



  1. Kazz January 2, 2009 3:26 pm


  2. Kazz January 2, 2009 3:27 pm

    Oh yeah… dat’s how you start the new year!!!



  3. Bulla January 2, 2009 3:35 pm

    Top 5 πŸ™‚

  4. Bulla January 2, 2009 3:35 pm

    Still Top 5 πŸ™‚

  5. Kazz January 2, 2009 3:36 pm


    Are the ticket prices for Men’s Volleyball also taking a cut?

    Also, how’s the situation with their pre-game meals? Still a no-go due to costs?

  6. Bulla January 2, 2009 3:36 pm

    ok, now end of Top 5 πŸ™‚

  7. Bulla January 2, 2009 3:36 pm


    kill joy, i was on a roll bro, haha

    Happy New Year!!!

  8. Kazz January 2, 2009 3:37 pm

    I think I just BSU’d Bulla out of the Top 5… 😈

    Sorry boss!!!

  9. brew808 January 2, 2009 3:38 pm

    …kids! πŸ™„

  10. Stephen Tsai January 2, 2009 3:38 pm

    No pre-game meals.
    And ticket prices were cut slightly (although I believe there’s no charge for students).
    And Bulla is top 5 because he stood us up for lunch.

  11. brew808 January 2, 2009 3:39 pm

    Wow….. the “underdog” in this year’s Sugar Bowl has shown up to play! 😯 πŸ˜€

  12. brew808 January 2, 2009 3:41 pm

    UPSET –> begins with a U!!! 😯 πŸ˜€ 😯

  13. Jason January 2, 2009 3:42 pm

    Yep, no charge for students.

  14. el guapo January 2, 2009 3:43 pm

    GA was like Colt in his first year, he tried to scramble instead of throwing the ball away and I felt he took unnecessary sacks.. So part of the blame is on him, but I don’t hear anyone screaming for Rolo’s head.

    Give everyone some time. The QB’s will understand the offense better next year and make better decisions and there will be another throwing threat at RB.

  15. brew808 January 2, 2009 3:43 pm

    This blog post is so late that it could quality as an early Saturday entry…. πŸ‘Ώ

  16. mano1 January 2, 2009 3:45 pm

    ST_ So hows the VB team looking ? Prediction ?

  17. Kazz January 2, 2009 3:45 pm


    Do you know how much of a “boost” the Men’s Volleyball booster club would need to restore the pre-game meals and if this cut is a one time thing for this season?


    Hey! Happy New Year to you too sir!

  18. brew808 January 2, 2009 3:46 pm

    Is Rawson healthy and ready to play this season? How are the other “tall” guys? V-ball has really become a sport where length matters…. 😯

  19. 99club January 2, 2009 3:48 pm

    “Did you say Utes?!”
    -Fred Gwynne

  20. 99club January 2, 2009 3:52 pm

    Been playing V-ball in a racquet ball court lately…”wall-ey ball.” You can use all the walls except directly above you…pretty good workout.

  21. brew808 January 2, 2009 3:52 pm

    Is Jarrod Lofy highly regarded? I like his length of 6’9″. All the players in the first photo look or “ordinary” height.

    I like Kazz’s question and suggestion regarding assisting with pre-game meals. Would that have to be coordinated with some pre-approved vendor? πŸ˜€

  22. oxymoron January 2, 2009 3:53 pm

    I know this is not a football-specific blog, but geez…I can’t wait for football to start up again. no knock on ST, but these volleyball updates don’t quite compare to football driven hysteria that we’re used to. Hopefully the O-line isn’t made of matadors like this past year, or GA will end up on his butt a lot next season…and it’s difficult to make completions from your butt. I think.

  23. brew808 January 2, 2009 3:55 pm

    Hey 99 – I use to play wally-ball too. Hmmmm – we have lot’s in common: Warrior Football & other sports, BBQ, brewski’s, and being TOTALLY wrong about the Cotton Bowl! πŸ™„

  24. oxymoron January 2, 2009 3:55 pm

    ST: I’m hearing that Jake Huen will be a LB next season, shifting from RB to help fill the void left by Solly and Adam…any truth to that?

  25. oxymoron January 2, 2009 3:59 pm

    and while I’m venting…anyone besides me think the football helmet should be either dark green or black, not a mixture of both? the helmet color isn’t bad, but it does not match with anything in the uniform. It’s not black, yet it is not green…more like BLEEN. Color coordination, anyone?

  26. brew808 January 2, 2009 3:59 pm

    Question: Other than a total rework of one’s delivery…. is there anything one can do to shorten a QB’s motion and quicken his delivery? Some work is also needed on the decision making side (getting rid of the ball and avoiding the loss in yardage). :o:

    U T A H…. 😯

  27. 99club January 2, 2009 4:00 pm

    7 kids from Hawaii on the Utah roster according to their website.

  28. brew808 January 2, 2009 4:02 pm

    … venting is good…. not venting can sometimes lead to messy clean-ups…. πŸ˜€

  29. brew808 January 2, 2009 4:03 pm

    Anybody watching Wahine basketball? Anybody? Hello…. anybody? πŸ™„

  30. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 4:03 pm

    Yeeee Ha

    Uuuuuu Tah!

    bust up da SEC!

  31. 99club January 2, 2009 4:04 pm

    Totally wrong all day, aren’t we? I’m enjoying this game, big time. If anyone heard Switzer’s comments before the game then you know his halftime update should be ‘can’t miss’ crow eating.

  32. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 4:04 pm

    wait wait

    Uuuuu Tah

    give Bama chance.

    3e years chance…. πŸ˜€

    heh heh heh

  33. SteveM January 2, 2009 4:05 pm

    January 2nd, 2009 at 3:48 pm
    β€œDid you say Utes?!”
    -Fred Gwynne

    99club — from My Cousin Vinny?

    Brew808 — I answered your last question at the end of the yesterday’s blog entry.

  34. owen-16 January 2, 2009 4:07 pm

    if this sugar bowl keeps up, i can see more and more of a push for da mtn west becoming a 7th bcs conference if somehow the bcs allows it. they’d take boise and a conference w/ boise, tcu, byu, and utah could more than hold their own against da big east. not good for us or da wac…

  35. Committed Road Warrior January 2, 2009 4:07 pm

    So it’s the end of the 1st Q in the Sugar Bowl. Performance from both teams at this point were not what I expected…..

  36. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 4:07 pm

    and that, my frenz, was the big


    an an…

    how did Utah steal/swipe/cockroach 7 localz, you tell me dat!

  37. sjmacro January 2, 2009 4:08 pm

    We just got our tickets today. Link shows the price reduction in seats; hope that and the food pricing helps attendance.


  38. NYUH January 2, 2009 4:08 pm

    Utah 21 Alabama 0

  39. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 4:09 pm


    i gettin da popcorn ready,
    not going to miss halftime fo nuttin. πŸ˜€

  40. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 4:12 pm

    you guyz watching the Bama oline and the d attack by da Utes?
    i’m crackin up, tinkin of Joe Pesci in My Cuz Vinny. Yuutz! πŸ˜€


    You are so right…..
    Email the coach on Monday.

  41. 99club January 2, 2009 4:18 pm

    Yup, one of my all-time favorite movies.

  42. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 4:21 pm

    Coaching. You gotta have the talent, but tt all comes down to Coaching.

    Utah came to play, get one Sakoda kicker too. my friend S Sakoda wuz lost in Iraq and I did his eulogy in March 06.. Great American Hero. Hail to Sakoda! Go Utah!

  43. kama krab January 2, 2009 4:26 pm

    Looks like Alabama is waking up. They going try pound on Utah now. Hopefully they can keep there people fresh cause going be one tough game.

  44. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 4:29 pm

    Did you see that Utah Safety? Playmaker!!!!

  45. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 4:30 pm

    kama krab

    and how wuz dat for a show stoppah!

  46. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 4:32 pm

    Utah came to play

    like Notre Dame came to play

    like University of Hawaii going come to play

    next year, not the year after, next year!

    Give Ron Lee some help, Coach Mack!
    call the cavalry!

  47. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 4:33 pm


    next year is NOW!

  48. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 4:38 pm

    wow, good run.

    lets see what happens now.

  49. Committed Road Warrior January 2, 2009 4:39 pm

    Utah playing good, but I bet the French Quarter lose money compared to last year with UH in town.

  50. LizKauai [Believer] January 2, 2009 4:40 pm

    The South will rise…


  51. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 4:46 pm


  52. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 4:51 pm

    the players are all fired up.
    the coaches are fired up.
    really good game.

    I hate da SEC! πŸ˜€

  53. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 4:54 pm


    I’m risin…. I’m risin… πŸ˜€

  54. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 4:55 pm


    now i get to see Barry eat crow!!!

    chow fun!!!!!

  55. Committed Road Warrior January 2, 2009 4:55 pm


  56. brew808 January 2, 2009 4:57 pm

    Utah coach Kyle Whittingham signed a five-year contract extension worth $6 million on Monday, a reward for leading the Utes to a perfect regular season and BCS bid.

    ’nuff said. 😯

  57. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 5:00 pm

    5 good reasons to go to the UNLV game this coming Sept.

    1. close to Utah….

    2. meet the families of the new recruits.

    3. beat UNLV

    4 KK with LV

    5. beat UNLV πŸ˜€

  58. 99club January 2, 2009 5:01 pm

    AL has to kickoff from the 15 to open the second half. Switzer needs to go back to that Chevy dealership in OK!

  59. labrat January 2, 2009 5:02 pm

    Vince Goo come back!!!!

  60. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 5:02 pm

    Switzer ate 3 crows.

    i just love the body language and looks of the Utah and Bama coaches. good representatives of their institutions. there is no backing away from each other, no holding on, no conservativism. full on attack!

    thats how winners play. attack attack attack

  61. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 5:04 pm


    tooooooo funny…. πŸ˜†

  62. NYUH January 2, 2009 5:04 pm

    G.Harrell overtakes Colt’s TD record and sets the new record with 134.

  63. Kekoa January 2, 2009 5:06 pm

    BHF2 ~ Utes are making history. Wish we could have played ‘Bama in the Sugah Bowl. That is one team are guys would have been itchin’ to play again. Only this time, the outcome would have been totally different than what happened in Alabama.

    This time the Warriors would not have been dazzeled by 90,000 Crimson creeps. The support of the 20,000 plus Hawaii fans would have helped them exact their revenge!

  64. wafan January 2, 2009 5:06 pm

    Cold day at Disneyland. Fun day, though. Never thought I would have to wear my winter clothing in California. Sheesh!

    Looks like most of the Tsai-ko’s came through the new year celebrations relatively unscathed. That is always a good thing!!!

    All right, now on to NLI day and higher expectations and results!

  65. Da Punchbowl Kid January 2, 2009 5:08 pm

    While I truly respect the Alabama program, it is my fervent wish that Utah beats them soundly because of the BCS thing. It looks like once again, a team from the BCS (‘Bama) which could have been playing for the national championship has been assigned by the BCS to try and beat down the “outsider”, in this case the Utes. The BCS must go.

    Love the play of the polys on the Utah linebacking corps, including Kepa Gaison. He was a frustrated punter out of Kamehameha until his Uncle Pride encouraged him to play LB. He listened, and is having a great game today. Kepa’s Dad is none other than Blane Gaison the former star UH DB who is currently an AD at Kamehameha Kapalama.

  66. (Jesse) James January 2, 2009 5:14 pm

    DPK…didn’t Blaine play LB??? and also QB for UH???

  67. d1ε³Ά January 2, 2009 5:21 pm

    QB, then converted to Safety.
    Safety in NFL, IIRC

  68. d1ε³Ά January 2, 2009 5:22 pm

    Falcons, right, DPK?

  69. Da Punchbowl Kid January 2, 2009 5:22 pm


    He played QB and DB for UH. He was also a DB for Atlanta in the pros.

  70. FloridaTed January 2, 2009 5:24 pm

    Wow, Utah is kind of a shocker sofar, but a long way to go yet. Their adrenaline rush will subside during half time and Alabama’s will be very elevated, after Saban ripped them a new one. Utah will have to weather the first two drives or it’s downhill for them. I would be hugely impressed if they can hang on, but…..

    I’m all for the little guy, but it wouldn’t be so great for the WAC if they’d win, besides, I loath the MWC.

  71. al β„’ January 2, 2009 5:26 pm

    ummmmm. where is the blog banter going these days?


    January 2nd, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    I’m risin…. I’m risin…

  72. d1ε³Ά January 2, 2009 5:26 pm

    isn’t his sister (Kepa’s) a beauty queen?

  73. al β„’ January 2, 2009 5:26 pm

    dpk, i hear that he would make an excellent coach of the db’s for the warriors.

  74. FloridaTed January 2, 2009 5:27 pm

    Graham Harrell, schmarrell record, took him an extra YEAR to break Colts record.

  75. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 5:29 pm


  76. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 5:30 pm

    okay al,

    you’re right. time out time out.

  77. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 5:31 pm

    i loathe the mwc too.

    but there was this line somwhere

    “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.” πŸ˜€

  78. Da Punchbowl Kid January 2, 2009 5:32 pm

    Blane? No question!

    Yes she is D1. Their mom, the former Donna Biondine was (is) a real knock out too.

  79. Bulla January 2, 2009 5:35 pm

    ST and others,

    sorry about the lunch date, i was stuck in a mtg. from 1130 to 130 today; New Year, crunching numbers with investors for other properties on outer islands……very sorry to miss lunch. as is the beast also, just threw him some bones to gnaw on in the meantime.

    we’ll catch up soon, interesting things blowing in the wind at Weber State with Inoke Breckterfield coming in to coach the D line….and more developments on the horizon for the beast…….

    Happy New Year πŸ™‚

  80. d1ε³Ά January 2, 2009 5:36 pm

    al β„’,

    Gaison may have been another one on that team we were trying to piece together from memory with Koakane…

  81. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 5:37 pm

    Yep, I loathe the MWC

    I loathe the SEC samoa!

  82. d1ε³Ά January 2, 2009 5:42 pm

    how did Utah steal/swipe/cockroach 7 localz, you tell me dat!

    Yep, I loathe the MWC

    I loathe the SEC samoa!

    How you figgah?
    Which one seems to be more of a threat to UH?

  83. (Jesse) James January 2, 2009 5:42 pm

    Okay…I was thinking he was an LB….I knew he played DB for the Falcons though….

  84. brew808 January 2, 2009 5:46 pm

    Hmmmmm…. my invitation to lunch must have been misplaced… How about the rest of you Tsaikos. πŸ™ πŸ™„

    UTE UTE UTE UTE Ute Ute!!! πŸ˜†

  85. d1ε³Ά January 2, 2009 5:47 pm


    Some of da guys he hit thought he was one LB; maybe dat’s why da confusion πŸ˜‰

  86. kama krab January 2, 2009 5:47 pm

    Alabama going keep pounding. Gotta keep it fresh for Utah. Gotta keep working.

  87. Da Punchbowl Kid January 2, 2009 5:52 pm

    Get your priorities straight and simply hate the BCS around the Bowl season. The rest of the time you may loathe whomever you please. πŸ˜‰

  88. Kazz January 2, 2009 5:54 pm


    January 2nd, 2009 at 5:37 pm
    Yep, I loathe the MWC

    I loathe the SEC samoa!

    Get one SEC in Samoa?


    No worries be like me and HATE ALL THINGS NOT UH!!!! HAHAHAHAAHAHA!!! See I no even watch! Well I am at home so no can help.

  89. Kazz January 2, 2009 5:58 pm

    Da Punchbowl Kid:

    January 2nd, 2009 at 5:52 pm
    Get your priorities straight and simply hate the BCS around the Bowl season. The rest of the time you may loathe whomever you please.

    I hear ya DPK, which is why I didn’t watch any BCS Bowl game on Saturday. I did enjoy the NHL winter classic! 😈

  90. Da Punchbowl Kid January 2, 2009 5:58 pm


    UH doesn’t have puppies. Do you hate puppies?

  91. FloridaTed January 2, 2009 5:58 pm

    Win or lose, I’m impressed with the Utes.

    Now it comes down to which line has more gas left in the fourth Q.

  92. Kazz January 2, 2009 5:59 pm

    Da Punchbowl Kid:

    January 2nd, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    UH doesn’t have puppies. Do you hate puppies?

    Well, you know what I mean… besides I luv fuffies! :mrgreen:

  93. Da Punchbowl Kid January 2, 2009 6:01 pm

    I luv this blog. πŸ™‚

  94. brew808 January 2, 2009 6:02 pm

    Hmmmmm….. I think there’s one person here that may be pulling for the team with a several A’s in it’s name…. Right kAmA krAb??? 😯 πŸ˜€

  95. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 6:03 pm

    i know what you’re saying..
    when da Utah grad donates $250K to his alma for a receivers’ schollie fund, dats wat i call tiding very nicely tank yu very much! πŸ˜€

    yup i’d say Utah is da biggah threat. but we get more chances, down da line, for scrap and beat Utah. Da BCS buggaz gonna make all mighty mighty to us way out in da boonies an no like come ova here.

    maybe Saban and Alabama would do a home and home. I’d like to see dat.

  96. FloridaTed January 2, 2009 6:03 pm

    I have nothing against Alabama, they’ve been pretty good for us, whereas Utah……….

  97. Da Punchbowl Kid January 2, 2009 6:06 pm

    Utah needs a dramatic “length of the field” scoring drive here to crush the Tide’s will.

  98. brew808 January 2, 2009 6:07 pm

    Kazz – how about hush puppies (fuud kine)??? πŸ˜†

  99. Da Punchbowl Kid January 2, 2009 6:08 pm

    That’s true Ted, but at this moment we have to rally against the “Axis of Evil” which is the BCS. πŸ˜†

  100. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 6:08 pm

    ho boy,

    this is a good fun game. world peace hangs in the balance. πŸ˜€

    the MWC already a threat to the WAC. but not to Hawaii if we rise to the call and meet our destiny!

  101. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 6:14 pm

    dis Utah little guy Sakoda can kick some buuumahz!

  102. Ralph January 2, 2009 6:22 pm

    Utes oline doing a good job of blocking for the run and pass….

  103. jm2375 January 2, 2009 6:26 pm

    brew – I was listening to da Wahine game on da radio on da way home. They were up by 5, then all of a sudden, after I finished yelling at the kid for being late, they were down by 10. I changed da station after that. BTW, what are they doing playing at 3pm on a Friday?? This is not the way they get more people into the SSC to watch the game!!! 😑

  104. 99club January 2, 2009 6:27 pm

    C’mon Utah, punt this to the 1.

  105. Da Punchbowl Kid January 2, 2009 6:28 pm


    I was just thinkin’ how much fun the linemen are having on snaps to Asiata. UH needs a mouth smasher like Asiata at RB.

  106. HiFlyer January 2, 2009 6:30 pm

    Utah went conservative on that last series with only an 11 point lead, sounds a little to familiar.

  107. 99club January 2, 2009 6:31 pm

    Florida’s biggest quality win was against Alabama. Hmmm….same with Utah and they’re undefeated.

  108. brew808 January 2, 2009 6:33 pm

    jm2009+366 – I cheer for the Wahine – but I really, REALLY want the Bolla(s) –> out of 808!!! 😈 πŸ‘Ώ 😈

  109. brew808 January 2, 2009 6:35 pm

    πŸ˜€ UTE UTE UTE UTE UTE UTE UTE UTE Ute Ute Ute Ute Go (non-BCSUtah!!! πŸ˜†

  110. Ralph January 2, 2009 6:38 pm

    dpk this season, the third string lb becomes the full back, lbs like contact…how about nobriega coming in as the bull

  111. FloridaTed January 2, 2009 6:39 pm

    Regardless of how I feel, I have to stand up and clap my hands for Utah. That is a hell of a performance. Alabama was outplayed and outcoached.

  112. Da Punchbowl Kid January 2, 2009 6:40 pm

    They have a couple of guys who might fill that role.

  113. Ralph January 2, 2009 6:41 pm

    sakoda’s amazing, punts and kicks field goals….does he do the kick offs…save big bucks in the nfl if he multi tasks and succeeds

  114. Da Punchbowl Kid January 2, 2009 6:43 pm

    Great win for Utah! The Jedi have dealt the Empire a serious set back. πŸ˜†

  115. HiFlyer January 2, 2009 6:44 pm

    So with Utah being undefeated, does this start the controversy in the NCAA and the BCS on who is actually #1 in the nation.

  116. Ralph January 2, 2009 6:44 pm

    sylvester 6’2 230 coming off the edge to make at least 4 sacks…does he have that much game speed that UH lacks…

  117. brew808 January 2, 2009 6:45 pm

    UTE UTE UTE UTE UTE UTE Ute Ute Ute Ute Go (non-BCS) Utah!!! πŸ˜†

    Congratulations to (non-BCS) Utah!!! πŸ˜†

    πŸ˜€ :mrgreen: πŸ˜€ :mrgreen: πŸ˜€ :mrgreen: πŸ˜€ :mrgreen: πŸ˜€ :mrgreen: πŸ˜€ :mrgreen: πŸ˜€ :mrgreen: πŸ˜€ :mrgreen: πŸ˜€ :mrgreen: πŸ˜€ :mrgreen: πŸ˜€ :mrgreen: πŸ˜€ :mrgreen: πŸ˜€ :mrgreen:
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  118. FloridaTed January 2, 2009 6:48 pm

    Once again, here is living proof that neither history nor reputation win ball games, lol. Whoever you are, you have to come to play with everything you’ve got.

  119. brew808 January 2, 2009 6:48 pm

    Florida 31 – Alabama 20
    Utah 31 – Alabama 17

  120. Da Punchbowl Kid January 2, 2009 6:48 pm

    Hi Flyer-

    Of course. And that’s another great reason why the BCS system is a failure.

  121. Ralph January 2, 2009 6:51 pm

    anyone planning on watching Bollas wahines? I hope this doesn’t burst the bubble on your enthusiasm but the wahines committed 33 turnovers in the game-won’t be a pretty game to watch…..

  122. FloridaTed January 2, 2009 6:51 pm

    What was the Florida – Alabama score compared to Utah, does anyone remember?

  123. Ralph January 2, 2009 6:52 pm

    I wonder who got stuck covering the wahines-Oh, brother mike….give the man a beer, but after he puts his chopper away for the night…

  124. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 6:54 pm


    I sure wish I felt like da Utah fans feel this year at last year’s SB.
    guess you gotta come to play, not make announcement that you’ll be leaving after the game.

    That Utah coach sure looked intent on winning all nite long. and Saban didn’t give him an inch…. Great game. great respect….

  125. Ralph January 2, 2009 6:56 pm

    Utah and bama with red, we need to pick a UH color for all games and all sports until it becomes in ingrained tradition before we try white outs, black outs, and whatevers…

  126. brew808 January 2, 2009 6:57 pm

    Go Bolla Go! Go Bolla GO!!! 😈 😯 πŸ‘Ώ

  127. FloridaTed January 2, 2009 6:57 pm


    I agree with you on that one definately, this game was a clear cut indictment of the BCS bull crap, but for a play-off with any kind of clarity, there must be at least eight teams involved.

  128. Da Punchbowl Kid January 2, 2009 6:57 pm

    You said it all bhf2… I’ll never understand why it was said before the game was played.

  129. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 6:58 pm


    Da Bolla(s) not going leave. like stain.
    You gotta use bleach. Jimmy D not dat kinda guy.
    he going wait till da bugga retire. its up to us.
    gotta go wit clorox. πŸ˜€

  130. jm2375 January 2, 2009 7:00 pm

    brew – #108 – I totally agree. You know, they might only have to promote from within. There’s a former head coach as an asst and she’s not married to Bolla!!!

  131. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 7:00 pm

    and a Utes fan wuz sittin in my seat! πŸ™

  132. FloridaTed January 2, 2009 7:02 pm


    Saw your answer after I posted, thanks. Utah taveled further, shouldn’t they be in the NCG ? Lol.

  133. Ralph January 2, 2009 7:05 pm

    JD needs to put his stamp on this UH athletic administration…can’t be good buddies with the coaches, its all business….just win, be competitive for the wac championship every year and balance the books or the chancellor needs to needs to make a call on the AD….chain of command, be accountable-just win….

  134. brew808 January 2, 2009 7:05 pm

    Sometimes, an excision is needed. In this case, a bolladectomy is desperately required! 😈

  135. FloridaTed January 2, 2009 7:08 pm

    Totally agree about Bolla sh.t, this guy has to pack up and leave town fast, before he runs the Wahine program totally into the ground. That guy has zero character and we have a great coach already here and the girls play for her with gusto, we clearly saw it last year, when the Bolla head was sick or something.

  136. addahknowjoe January 2, 2009 7:13 pm

    Next season began yesterday.

    So, who’s training up in Manoa?

    Who lifting?

    Who’s running?

    Who’s committed?

    Who’s dedicated?

    Who wants it?

  137. FloridaTed January 2, 2009 7:13 pm

    Whatever happened to the investigation of Bolla about his allegedly abusive behavior toward the girls? Anything ever came of it? They could use that for cause dismissal.

  138. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 7:17 pm

    watching the after game interview of Alabama.

    coach Saban has my respect. dat bradda is not a cry baby.
    he didn’t talk about his star OT that got booted off the team this past week. he gave credit to Utah. and the missed tackles. he’s looking forward to his opportunities next year, and that he started 16 freshmen this year, 14 enough times to letter.

    kind of reminds me of our Coach Mack!

  139. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 7:22 pm

    Bolla reminds me of that odda B guy in Chicago, Blogajevich. blame da odda guyz. and we don’t need to remind him of anything except to tell him the attendance is so low. the attendees are practically all family and he should know all the attendeez by name.

    anyway, February coming, and then what?????

  140. NYUH January 2, 2009 7:24 pm

    I love HD. You can see the crimson pain in every Alabama player and fan’s face!

  141. wafan January 2, 2009 7:25 pm

    Never had the honor of watching the wahine or Bolla. But, with the depth of knowledge and experience, not to mention the passion, each of you have for all UH sports, I would think JD has already heard your concerns and is just waiting for the right timing to take action. Whether that timing be opportune for the UH, team, Bolla or us is another matter.

    But, I trust in JD’s decision and will (im)patiently wait.

  142. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 7:25 pm

    the young women are disheartened. and when you got 2 to look out for, you’re not going anywhere in your mind except down down down.

    he should know that. but you all know those kinds of coaches. selfish for themselves. nothing about the team and the State and women. i told you, we need the clorox. its a slow insidious kind of pain. thats what we got in UH Wm bball. ask around, Jim. it ain’t gonna get better until da Bollaz are gone. and dats a fact. sorry to bear da bad news.

  143. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 7:27 pm

    I’m trusting WassupDoc on dis one. She goes to most of the games.
    And sometimes she’s kinda like a sharp cookie. πŸ˜€

  144. Garret January 2, 2009 7:28 pm

    The biggest difference between Utah in 2008 and Hawaii in 2007 is that Utah was tested all season and had to reach their potential just to make the BCS game while UH had far too many weak teams on their schedule where they had a HUGE margin for error to get the win. So, when Utah made it to their BCS game they were battle-tested against top-level competition while UH hadn’t seen anything close to Georgia before they played.

    The D could give up 44 points to La Tech, 37 points to Utah State, and 35 points to SJSU and the team could win. Colt could throw 5 INTs before JJ had to pull him and the game was still really not in doubt. Special teams could have breakdowns (that return TD gave SJSU life, etc.) and it didn’t cost the game. Most importantly, the tackles didn’t see anything close to the level of the Georgia DEs and they weren’t ready for it.

    Let us compare Utah’s 2008 schedule to UH’s 2007 schedule:

    Utah played 1 FCS team while UH played 2, and I think that Weber State was much better in 2008 than Charleston Southern or Northern Colorado was in 2007.

    Nonconference games for Utah: at Michigan, at Utah State, Weber State, Oregon State

    Nonconference games for UH: Northern Colorado, at UNLV, Charleston Southern, Washington

    For Pac-10 teams, Utah beat a team that almost won the Pac-10 (and they beat USC) while UH played the last place team.

    At Michigan is much, much tougher than at UNLV (especially since UH had so many fans at the UNLV game while Michigan packs a huge stadium with their fans)

    Utah State and Weber State are much, much better than the combo of Northern Colorado and Charleston Southern.

    Conference games–I seriously doubt that anyone who can look at things impartially will say that the WAC in 2007 was better than the MWC in 2008. Utah, TCU and BYU are top-15 teams while only UH and BSU were ranked for the WAC. More importantly, the WAC lost every key nonconference game in 2007 until the last few weeks of the season…remember, the WAC was something like 0-18 vs. BCS conference teams and even BSU lost their game against the Pac-10. That really hurt UH with the computer rankings and really hurt the WAC’s reputation.

    The MWC beat up the Pac-10 in 2008 while the WAC lost game after game vs. the Pac-10 in 2007 until UH barely beat their last place team. Remember how UH had to adjust to Washington’s athletes in 2007? That was because HF came up with a pitifully weak nonconference schedule and the WAC was really down last year!

    No matter how good you are, if you aren’t pushed week after week then you cannot reach your full potential…this is the same thing I’ve been saying about the Wahine Vollyeball team being in the WAC now (the WAC was much stronger before the MWC teams left).

  145. Garret January 2, 2009 7:37 pm

    I really wanted Utah to lose today…because I was thinking of the long-term implications of Utah’s win. This is bad for the WAC and for UH.

    Those upset at the BCS and think that things need to change might get exactly that…and they might not like what happens! Say that the BCS declares that they have decided that they have been too restrictive and that they decide that the MWC deserves a BCS inclusion since they have earned it on the field if they take BSU with them. In this scenario, of course the MWC would take BSU (BSU’s begging would finally pay off for them) and the WAC would be left in the dust.

    The BCS money would allow every MWC school to hire/keep the best coaches and assistant coaches (getting top assistants and holding on to them is the key, and the WAC teams don’t have the money to pay them well enough). Losing BSU would really hurt the WAC’s credibility and would really put a gap between the MWC and WAC…which every TV network and every recruit would take notice of. The MWC’s TV contract will be up around the time that the BCS will be evaluating changes…ESPN would dump the WAC for the MWC. From what I’ve read, ESPN offered *much* more to the MWC than they offered to the WAC.

    Utah’s win is also really bad for recruiting for UH. Utah gets a lot of Polynesian players and they get a lot of recruits from Hawaii…their success is bad for UH! You think that their coaches will contrast the two Sugar Bowls when they are going after a player UH wants?

  146. Kekoa January 2, 2009 7:40 pm

    Ralph ~ Check your email box. I’m trying to back the 40% of Americans who try not to use the postal system anymore. Meanwhile, on the ceded lands, I’m with the 100% who want to choke the chit out of ’em for not delivering the mail to our homes!

  147. labrat January 2, 2009 7:41 pm

    Pat Charity would be a nice interim coach. soon please. It is getting to be brutal. JD was at the game.

  148. SIMPLE January 2, 2009 7:41 pm

    Why can’t we be like Utah ?!?!?!?!

  149. Garret January 2, 2009 7:44 pm

    Even with the best basketball coach in the world, the Wahine basketball team will lose a LOT of money. Those who want JD to fire Bolla and hire some other head coach, especially those getting impatient about it, need to think about where JD is going to come up with that money! HF really hurt JD’s long-term planning and budget by giving that long-term contract to Bolla.

    Bolla would be due a *huge* payout if he was fired, and JD would have to pay someone else a head coach’s salary. Where is that money coming from? At other schools, the boosters come up with the buyout money, but I don’t see a movement like that coming from UH fans. Even at other schools with lots of generous boosters they do that for football and men’s basketball, but they don’t do that for women’s basketball!

    Remember, the article in the Advertiser discussed how UH is hurt by the drop in attendance for men’s basketball and football and is in a budget crunch now. JD is going to have to trim a lot of expenses and possibly cut staff. How is he going to come up with all that money to pay off Bolla and hire someone else? Even in great years for the Wahine basketball team under Goo and others, UH lost money. Even top-10 women’s basketball teams lose money!

  150. Garret January 2, 2009 7:45 pm

    Okay, I’ve said enough controversial things for today. I’ll go away now and let the Bolla-bashing (he deserves it, and JD has to curse HF every time he thinks of Bolla’s long-term contract) and BCS-bashing continue.

  151. Kekoa January 2, 2009 7:54 pm

    BHF2 ~ Let’s not go overboard in dumping e-Bolla. Let’s go Ballistic! Time for the Tsaiko Nation to rise up. We can make a difference and really CAN this e-Bolla virus. Call me when you have time, Fan Man – to hear me out.

  152. FloridaTed January 2, 2009 8:00 pm


    The bearer of bad news, but unfortunately, you’re absolutely correct on all counts.

    It is vital for WAC football to have a great year and the MWC experiencing some kind of drop-off. How are TCU, BYU and Utah? Are they senior laden this year?

  153. Da Punchbowl Kid January 2, 2009 8:26 pm


    What’s wrong with doing away with the BCS altogether and replace it with a more inclusive and equitable system? That’s what I’m thinking.

  154. cavewarrior January 2, 2009 8:27 pm

    Great insight and thanks for sharing…I have thought many of the same things…That last quarter and ending of the Utes win tonight — all the joy and celebration of the fans and team, was what could have been for the Warrior Nation a year ago…instead of that long, frigid, shivering walk back to the hotel from the Superdome…Need to rebuild and keep the dream alive!
    GO Warriors!!!

  155. Da Punchbowl Kid January 2, 2009 8:30 pm


    President-elect Obama doesn’t like the BCS system for determining a national championship either.

    Finally, where should Utah stand in terms of the national championship?

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  157. FloridaTed January 2, 2009 8:33 pm


    Utah should play the winner of Okl-Florida for the NCS.

  158. Da Punchbowl Kid January 2, 2009 8:35 pm


    Exactly. But does the BCS system allow for that?

  159. Garret January 2, 2009 8:36 pm


    When did such a perfect system exist? One of the biggest bowls (if you go by the money they paid out before the BCS existed) is the Rose Bowl…before the BCS existed did the WAC have any chance to play in the Rose Bowl? All of the big conferences had tie-ins to the big bowls…and because their champions played in those games on New Years Day, the TV network paid *big* money to televise the games. The champions of the big conferences get FAR greater TV ratings and fan support in attendance than the WAC schools…no matter what we think about UH, there simply aren’t enough UH fans around the country to get a TV network to choose UH over Texas or Florida.

    The inequity in money has ALWAYS been there. If you take away the BCS and go back to the previous system, the big bowls will invite the conferences and teams that bring the TV ratings…and that is not the WAC! They will give Notre Dame an invitation over more deserving teams because Notre Dame brings in the ratings and fans–we just saw this with the Hawaii Bowl.

    So, you can hate on the BCS all you want. Don’t be surprised if the changes that are made make things *worse* for UH. In the old system, the bowls could make tie-ins with whoever they wanted and how many times did UH get invited to a mainland bowl game? Once? And the Holiday Bowl had to take UH because they won the WAC…and the Holiday Bowl is probably the 20th or so on the list of high-paying bowls.

    Without the Big 12, SEC, Pac-10, Big 10, ACC, any even Big East (they aren’t deserving on the field, but they have a lot of TV sets in their home markets), there is NO big money payout like the BCS gives out. If you throw out the BCS and let the bowls choose their teams, they will go for the big-name schools first and the WAC would fall even further behind…right now the political pressure forced the BCS to provide a BCS buster spot and also forced the BCS to give the WAC and every non-BCS conference some money, that money would be gone if you take the BCS away.

  160. Garret January 2, 2009 8:44 pm

    Many people support the plus-one game, which would be easy to add on. And it would bring in more money, specifically for the conferences that get teams to participate in that game. But under that system UH wouldn’t have been invited (even if UH beat Georgia!) but Utah might be…that would be even worse for the WAC and UH!

    Want a 4-team playoff? Utah probably wouldn’t have been invited this year and BSU and UH definitely wouldn’t have been invited in their years.

    Want an 8-team playoff? UH wasn’t in the top 8 last year at the end of the regular season! You would have 7 BCS conference teams in the playoff and one spot left open, most times for either a MWC school or Notre Dame. That is worse for UH!

    Because only one game can be played each week instead of 2 like basketball, it is hard to go beyond an 8-team playoff. And I would like to remind everyone that the proposals (which many people here have posted in support of without maybe noticing the fine print) for an 8-team playoff reduce the regular season by 1 game to account for the playoff. How is JD going to make up for the loss of the revenue from a home game? Shortening the season also means that UH will not be getting many of the big schools to travel to Aloha Stadium…and shortening the season would put pressure on the “Hawaii Exception” that allows teams to play an extra game if they play in Hawaii.

  161. Da Punchbowl Kid January 2, 2009 8:45 pm


    So I guess you’re saying that we have to live with the BCS system and that there isn’t any possible way to share the money more fairly? I could have sworn that I have read here about studies which indicate that the BCS system actually lowers the potential income made versus a true play off system.

    Lastly, why can’t the national championship be about who has the best team and NOT the most money in their market. JMHO

  162. NYUH January 2, 2009 8:47 pm


    I hear what you are saying about the Utah win but sometimes you have to root with your heart, not your mind. I’m sure all the Toyota factories in Alabama are going to be really solemn next week.

    On your theory about UH and Utah’s schedule having something to do with their loss/win, a little more mind activity might be required (I know you have it). If playing a tough schedule was the determining factor, Alabama should have won hands-down.

    As a theory it also lends itself to a victimization scenario – our schedule is weak, therefore we are weak. It also takes away from the significance of going 12-0, not an easy feat. It may be that the win over Washington provided a false sense of security though – I’ll give you that.

    In retrospect, the schedule was probably an inadvertent gift from Frazier that paid for his boot and JJ’s successor. And the Sugar Bowl loss had more to do with an inability to protect the QB (hmm, do I sense a trend here) and first time anxiety.

  163. Garret January 2, 2009 8:49 pm


    Nobody has EVER liked how the national championship has been determined in college football, there have been so many legitimate gripes. But that is a whole different issue. If you half the number of rounds that the NCAA basketball tournament have, that would mean that you take 8 teams for a football playoff. That gives *less* chance for a WAC team to make the playoff…there are more BCS spots now than there would be playoff spots!

    I don’t care how they determine the national championship because UH isn’t going to have a chance at that for quite some time. I *do* care about how the money is distributed, and I see a lot of ideas thrown around that would result in UH getting *less*, not more money. Less regular season money and no bonus for being in the playoff.

    Do you really want Utah to get a shot at the national title? What would that do for recruiting for UH? What would that do for the WAC vs. MWC argument?

  164. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 8:53 pm

    you right about the Rose Bowl.
    and you’re right, no matter how good we get,
    we won’t get to the Rose Bowl except after a multi
    year continuous stomjping of PAC-10 schools, and
    that requires them scheduling us, and that is not likely
    to happen in these hard economic times, unless we keep JD outta the SSC on women’s nites, so he don’t get depressed, and keep him in the positive for the big time, Warrior Football.

    And to do dat, we all gotta do our jobs. you, me, Coach Mack.

  165. Garret January 2, 2009 8:55 pm

    On your theory about UH and Utah’s schedule having something to do with their loss/win, a little more mind activity might be required (I know you have it). If playing a tough schedule was the determining factor, Alabama should have won hands-down.


    Now you are the one who is purposely making an argument that you *know* is flawed, coming to a conclusion that you *know* is wrong. Do you really want to go there?

    My point was NOT that playing the hardest schedule makes the best team. My point is that playing TOO WEAK of a schedule results in a team that is unprepared for a huge jump in the quality of the competition. Do you really think that is not the case?

    UH wasn’t ready for a team of Georgia’s caliber. I know that there were many, many more reasons for the loss (JJ situation especially), but I cannot believe that you wouldn’t think that was a factor!

    Heck, look at the road games for the two schedules. Playing at Michigan prepare Utah for a huge stadium and a big crowd. Did UH get the same preparation by playing at Louisiana Tech or Idaho? There is a reason why coach Shoji tries to schedule so many tough teams to start the season…sometimes it seems like he goes overboard about it, but he knows that he needs to test his team.

  166. Momo January 2, 2009 8:56 pm

    Happy new Year to you all. Hope 2009 brings U.H. many happy events and for us to go on trips to support the team, Yes, the girls bb team sucks. I go to the games, but now I refuse to go even when I am given two season tickets for the year…Sure enjoyed the Utah game….

  167. Garret January 2, 2009 9:02 pm


    People here have talked about how a playoff would make more money…but they don’t notice that the conferences with teams in the playoff would be making that money. That means the BCS conference teams, the MWC, and Notre Dame will be making more money, not the WAC!

    There *used* to be a system where the NCAA controlled the TV deals and the money was pretty evenly distributed among all teams, including UH. However, the big conferences sued in court and won, giving them the right to cut their own TV deals. Once that happened, you had two tiers of conferences and the money bought facilities, coaches, and that attracted recruits. Back then money brought in recruits too, but now teams find that facilities are the key.

    UH fans (like me) are very, very happy about the Ching Field upgrade. Unfortunately, most BCS conference teams and even teams like TCU have already had facilities like that and now they also have indoor practice facilities. TCU credits their indoor practice facility for being a huge recruiting tool…they are outrecruiting half of the Big 12 and all of the WAC. That makes the MWC stronger, which makes me quite unhappy!

  168. al β„’ January 2, 2009 9:05 pm

    ah garret….post #144

    i beg to differ. in all this, the one most glaring thing about the 07 and 08 sugar bowls is as the truth beknownst that our coach quit coaching while there’s didn’t.

    for all that jj did for us, i just wish he didn’t quit on us at the sugar bowl. now i know why he had that look during the game of “i care?”. now we know why he let the boys run rampant in the streets of new orleans.

    oh well. it is history yah.

  169. Garret January 2, 2009 9:08 pm


    I agree with what you say. And I’m working to do my part…I will either be able to help a LOT or a little in the next year, depending on how my company does.

    The TV money has already gone crazy. Did you see how much the SEC will be getting under their new TV deal? They got something like 10 years guaranteed money at around $5 mil per home game! Their TV contract only covers their home games, so they will want to play all their nonconference games at home. Their TV network wants their home games so badly that the network can kick in money to pay teams to play them at home…some Sun Belt teams are getting well over $1 mil to travel to play an SEC team!

    The Pac-10 has their TV negotiations coming up soon. If they hit the jackpot, they aren’t going to want to play many road games.

  170. koakaneβ„’ January 2, 2009 9:12 pm

    <blockquote addahknowjoe: Next season began yesterday.

    So, who’s training up in Manoa?

    Who lifting?

    Who’s running?

    Who’s committed?

    Who’s dedicated?

    Who wants it?

    ajoe this new player “Who” if he keeps doing this till next season going be on tough buggah. πŸ˜› bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    howzit, howzit, howzit everybody

  171. Garret January 2, 2009 9:13 pm


    I agree that was a factor. I specifically mentioned that was a factor. But if you honestly think that the level of competition was *not* a factor, then I do not agree with you.

    Put it this way, I hope that the next time UH gets to a big bowl game they have been tested by their schedule, as it will make a difference. I don’t think that UH was battle-tested enough and wasn’t used to playing in that type of environment…so, a better nonconference schedule and a better WAC is needed. It doesn’t have to be as hard as the 2008 nonconference schedule, but it cannot be as weak as 2007.

    You and others can decide to put everything on JJ…I’ve already seen that posted here. However, that is really ignoring that there were other factors also.

  172. koakaneβ„’ January 2, 2009 9:14 pm

    oh my forgot to close the blockquote. see ajoe to exited about “whodat” guy

  173. al β„’ January 2, 2009 9:14 pm

    my wish for 2009.

    one, coach mack give the job to craig stutzmann. you know in your heart that is the right thing to do.

    two, keep brian smith at oline coach. but, keep him responsible and let him hava at it his way.

    three, hire/employ another grad asst in stutz’ place who will be under the wing of brian smith. maybe you can entice dane uperesa?

    four, bring in a running back coach/grad asst such as mike brewster or mike carter.

    five, employ cal lee to the fullest let him coordinate the defense.

    six, employ ron lee to the fullest let him coordinate the defense.

    seven, finally speaking, realize that as the head coach yours is to coordinate the whole program, therefore, micro managing is your biggest enemy.

    i say all this with much aloha for you and the university.

    go warriors!

  174. Garret January 2, 2009 9:16 pm

    Hi Momo!

    I finished my report and submitted it to NSF, plus Lori is doing our company tax stuff, so I had some extra time…I think I got some things off my chest and provided a different side of some issues. I’ve been off the blog for most of the past 3 days, so I thought I’d use this time that I had.

  175. el guapo January 2, 2009 9:17 pm

    Garret needs to make a bazillion dollars on his ultimate invention so he can donate a billion to JD. That’s what it’s going to take to compete with the BCS schools =)

    Or we have to wait for Jason to come up with the ultimate math formula, whatever that is πŸ˜‰

  176. koakaneβ„’ January 2, 2009 9:17 pm

    wafan: Never had the honor of watching Bolla.

    eh wafan not missing much I think he more like e bolla the way he infects the wahines play.

  177. Garret January 2, 2009 9:18 pm


    Dane is going to grad school in Nebraska, where his fiancee is in school. I don’t think he’s available…but he would be great to have of course. There may be other former Warrior OL who would be good choices, though. I wish pride could take it, but that is not really feasible.

  178. Garret January 2, 2009 9:23 pm

    This is not a big shock…

    From several sources

    SMU is definitely a player for Robert Marve, Quarterback from Miami, Coach Morrison has had a great relationship with the Marve family.

  179. Garret January 2, 2009 9:25 pm

    I guess I didn’t follow the advice from someone who commented on my blog:

    ho cuz, can you do us a favor and stop spamming the warrior beat blog….k den shoot braddah benz.

  180. koakaneβ„’ January 2, 2009 9:25 pm

    so kekoa but neva catch your remark about “e bolla” virus till afta reread the oddah comments. guess the wessai nile virus got me πŸ˜‰ but at least we think a like yea!

  181. koakaneβ„’ January 2, 2009 9:31 pm

    garret as much as I don’t want to put to much on jj I must agree with Al 100% on the way jj mannerisms played out at the sb.

    only he and some choice few can confirm if he had his mind, soul and heart into the game.

  182. brew808 January 2, 2009 9:33 pm


    …at least we think a like yea!

    I don’t know if this worse news for Kekoa or koakaneβ„’! 😯 πŸ˜†

    I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m enjoying this debate that Garret was having, at first with himself, but now with others participating. Unfortunately, the (West Coast) professor (IMHO) is spot on and there is no simple, short-term solution for the “non-players” such as UH. πŸ™

  183. NYUH January 2, 2009 9:41 pm


    Yes, I have actually argued your point. But it had more to do directly with the four-wide system and how it leaves the QB vulnerable against the more athletic BCS teams. JJ’s offense is basically a QB’s dare, and a dare is not something you can design a long-time sustaining program around. It doesn’t have the flexibility. When your only options are trips left or trips right, yawn, it’s not exactly hard for the good teams to defend.

    My point was NOT that playing the hardest schedule makes the best team. My point is that playing TOO WEAK of a schedule results in a team that is unprepared for a huge jump in the quality of the competition. Do you really think that is not the case?

  184. Garret January 2, 2009 9:42 pm


    I’m *not* disagreeing with the mannerisms at the Sugar Bowl. But if you want to put all the blame on him for the game that is fine…but I can’t agree with that sentiment. JJ *does* deserve a lot of criticism for the game preparation and the adjustments during the game, but there were other factors also that I think people are conveniently ignoring in the desire to put it all on him.

    Going after a scapegoat for a loss is pretty typical (Brian Smith got a lot of that this season), but it ignores so many other things that come into play. After today I’ll just let it slide and everyone can just put all the blame on UH, that will be fine with me. And everyone can call for a “plus-1” game or a limited team playoff…I won’t argue any of this.

    What I’m trying to do is look at things from the other side and try to put some perspective on the issue. I helped coach debate at Castle High school for four years, plus I debated at Castle, so I had to train myself to look at both sides of every issue. If we leave our homer cap on all the time and don’t look for the root causes of some of the issues, we can’t understand the problem we are facing and can’t come up with solutions that might be realistic.

  185. Garret January 2, 2009 9:47 pm


    When Oregon State played UH in 2006, weren’t they leading the NCAA in sacks or close to it? UH was a special teams breakdown or a final drive completion away from beating them. When Purdue played UH I think they had a DE who was leading the NCAA in sacks…JJ put Reagan as a “slotback” (really a TE) and they punished the DE until he was no longer a threat.

    The 2006 team lost games, but they were *not* beaten…they hadn’t learned how to win those types of games yet and they hadn’t upgraded their defense (that came via Mac and recruiting before Mac was hired).

    The 2006 team was different because it had a high-level RB threat in Nate and an excellent backup in Reagan. The trouble is, both Nate and Reagan were drafted by the NFL and finding that level of talent is difficult. Nate was a small slotback when he was drafted and Reagan was a backup DL.

  186. NYUH January 2, 2009 9:49 pm

    Anybody know about the fate of the ha’a next year? I think participation should be mandatory — or else go to another team. Still haunted by Rausch’s performance on ESPN doing the ha’a. Maybe it’s because I lived in New Zealand for four years, but I think the Polynesian war dances are very powerful.

  187. brew808 January 2, 2009 9:51 pm

    IMHO – the “jj problem” was just part of the root cause. We can only speculate on the rest. 😯

    IMHO – The 2007 UGa was stronger than the 2008 ‘bama team – mainly in team speed and offense. I still feel that LSU would have been an easier SEC foe, but it probably wouldn’t have mattered with the “other issue” that bit us.

    The Utah team of Jan. 1(2), 2009 is stronger than the UH team of Jan. 1, 2008 – partly for the competition and exposure arguments that Garret elucidated. I’m a big Warrior fan – but objectively, this is a darn good Utah team. I’m impressed! 😐

    NYUH – I believe your #183 comment is precisely the same as Garret’s #144 and #165. Peace!

  188. Garret January 2, 2009 9:51 pm


    I’d also like to point out that you are arguing that the system and Ron Lee and Mac have chosen for the Warriors will not be able to sustain success. They sure don’t agree with you…or they have decided not to try to beat the better BCS teams. I can’t believe the latter so I have to think they don’t agree with you.

    One big problem now is that too many teams are running similar systems. JJ had the advantage earlier of recruiting players (like slotbacks) that most schools wouldn’t have much room for, and being able to say that UH would throw the ball far more than the run-oriented BCS teams. Now, almost everyone runs a spread offense and they are used to defending it and they are recruiting for it.

  189. Addahknowsports© January 2, 2009 9:52 pm

    Please check email.

  190. whitey January 2, 2009 9:53 pm

    i personally think we should drop the subject about jj. he gone, did an incredible job of putting UH in the sugar bowl and took another job. he gone, so why dwell on it. he ain’t coming back and we don’t need him. just give him the best at smu and aloha for being part of UH fb history.

  191. Garret January 2, 2009 9:55 pm


    One counter-point to your argument about how the 4-wide won’t work against more athletic BCS teams: both Texas Tech and Texas had great success with similar offenses this year. Texas Tech was no surprise, they have been running their offense for quite some time.

    This year Texas ran basically a 4-wide offense because one TE left for the draft early and the other top TE got hurt. Colt McCoy was in the shotgun in 2008 *more* than Colt Brennan was in the shotgun in 2007 (UH used Colt under center in short-yardage situations). Texas used 4 WRs and 1 RB on each play.

  192. brew808 January 2, 2009 9:56 pm

    AddahknowsportsΒ© – No can do. I don’t want to miss any of the discussion between Garret and NYUH – This is awesome! πŸ˜€

  193. NYUH January 2, 2009 9:57 pm

    Garret: Thanks for the discussion, its 3pm here so I’m signing off. While I’m not a big fan of the four-wide, I do admit that I was glad to see GA slinging it at the beginning of the Notre Dame game. Too bad Clausen was swinging it better. I wonder if those screens passes were called or if they were planned to automatically kick in when UH blitzed?

  194. whitey January 2, 2009 9:57 pm

    same thing for sugar bowl. pau, lost, and it is history. nothing you can do or say will change it. what helps is that coach mc and his staff learned how to prepare.

    same thing for notre dame. pau, we lost, and it is history. i look forward to when UH schedules notre dame in the future.

  195. Kekoa January 2, 2009 10:00 pm

    Brew ~ Me and my pahtna just like to organize events that offer the others a chance to relax and enjoy the 5 F’s. If we are on the same wave length at times, that’s a good thing. It just means we’ve found a way to maximize the fun, by doubling our effort.

    Did you ever watch the ending part of Boston Legal? After one of our T-gates or TV-gates we kick back and take stock of how things went, just like those actors. Without fail, the question we always end up asking each other is, “how are we going to top this?” Then, we go out and find a way!

  196. Garret January 2, 2009 10:01 pm


    I’ll go along with that and I already mentioned that I won’t argue that subject after today…and I only have 3 minutes left of Friday.

    I am still worried about UH playing better teams, and hope that the WAC improves and that JD is able to schedule good nonconference teams despite the travel costs and the big TV contracts than some conferences have for home games.

    Oregon State wants to schedule home-and-home games–I know that they want to do that to recruit in Hawaii but they already recruit in Hawaii and I think they are a good test for UH. This year didn’t go well but other years will if UH keeps this level of recruiting.

    I feel the same way about scheduling BYU, Utah, U-Dub, or any school that wants play UH because they want to recruit Hawaii. Only by playing, and beating, those teams will UH get to the next level of respect and recruiting.

  197. whitey January 2, 2009 10:03 pm

    i don’t why some are worried about utah winning tonight. for me, i say congratulations on job well done. if you are a sportsman and believe in sportmanship, you congratulate the winner and the loser. you don’t act like one borote!!!

  198. Garret January 2, 2009 10:04 pm


    I’m guessing that Notre Dame had screens ready when they read blitz. Some of those might have been called beforehand, but too many of them were well-timed for it to have been a coincidence…especially since they always went away from the side of the field the blitz was coming from.

    I think that GA will do a better job of getting rid of the ball next season when other team’s blitz. The coaches will spend the offseason preparing for how they will get the QBs and WRs to react to blitzes…if the other team sends more rushers than you have blockers, that means that a big play can occur if you get the ball away quick enough and the WRs either pick for each other or block well after the catch.

  199. Garret January 2, 2009 10:06 pm


    I do congratulate Utah for their win. I just would have preferred for the WAC to win their bowl games and the MWC to lose all of theirs! The MWC and Pac-10 are the chief recruiting opponents for UH…

  200. Garret January 2, 2009 10:07 pm

    Well, the blog finally reached 200 and it is past midnight, so I’ve got to sign off and spend some time with my wife.

  201. NYUH January 2, 2009 10:08 pm


    Sorry to disappoint, but it’s not much of a debate, Garret is the Man! But what is the fun of participating in a blog if you are not ranting about something! btw, its 3AM here.

    I don’t want to miss any of the discussion between Garret and NYUH – This is awesome! πŸ˜€

  202. koakaneβ„’ January 2, 2009 10:08 pm


    I think some of the parties have looked at both issues as you suggested. And with this new facts or alleged rumors it warrants another look at the big picture.

    I also believe coaching is a big factor in the game and planning that goes along with it. the players just carry out what has been plotted. they make adjustments in skills to carry out that plan and if that doesn’t work then those preparing them need to be look at. don’t get me wrong bsmith will make a good coach and I am not one to call for total over haul or dismissal. he imho needs seasoning and find his niche. best thing to happen is gerke leaving and brian being in total charge.

    I believe in UH, the team and I am not a homer at all. If they do well I celebrate like everyone else, when the loose I hurt with the best of them. I will listen and look at concerns then consider it well before listing any comments be it popular or not.

  203. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 10:10 pm

    please, please, please

    stop sugar coating things. we can only get better if our peeps
    plan like that sucka from Utah wen plan. da facts is da facts.

    we’re heading in the right direction, gotta give coach encouragement, and fire, and some kick arse encouragement.

  204. whitey January 2, 2009 10:11 pm

    i will say that it was hard to swallow at the Hawaii Bowl, but watching UH made me understand why they do well and why they don’t. watching them on tv versus live is 2 different animals. tv is great for closeups, but it doesn’t show what is happening on the sidelines. i believe that coach mc has a better grasp right now of what needs to be done and how his organization will be after feb 4th. coach has emotions which is very good because without it, team stagnates. after the recruit signings, ST will have a lot of info and it is going to be very, very, interesting.

  205. Kekoa January 2, 2009 10:12 pm

    E-Bolla signs in the SSC may be one way to get this man to get busy and start earning his keep…(or resign).

    Time to organize our cheering section behind the Wahine bench and cheer for the women to help lift their spirits.

    JD, you can help by having a face to face talk with this man to remind him what his job description entails.

  206. bighilofan2 January 2, 2009 10:12 pm

    encouragement takes many forms, including support.

    good job guyz.

    Go Warriors!!!

    waiting for the good news, coach!

  207. Garret January 2, 2009 10:17 pm

    One last thing…I check the Miami Herald every night at midnight since that is when their next day’s stories are put online. Great story about Bess!

    I want to share with you today the story of Dolphins receiver Davone Bess. It is amazing. It is inspiring. It is, in my opiniony, worthy of a movie, particularly if Bess continues his meteoric ascent and improvement. Notre Dame’s Rudy has got nothing on this kid.

    “There was times my mom was in a room breaking down, crying, going crazy trying to figure out how to pay the bills and stuff. Knowing all the negativity my family had grown up in, there was almost no way out of our situation. This was in Oakland, California. I should tell you I was the first person in my family to go to college. I was the first person on my dad’s side of the family that went to high school. That kind of gives you an idea of the type of family I grew up in. And my grandma was really supportive of my mom, but it’s crazy because my grandma was actually pregnant at the same time as my mom. I’m the same age as my auntie. So [my grandma] couldn’t really take care of me like she really wanted to because she had her own to take care of. so my mom was a kid — a kid raising two kids.

    “So never listen to anybody that says you can’t do something. Because through all those times, throughout that whole story I just told you, I always had people in my ear or talking behind my back saying I wasn’t going to make it. ‘He ain’t going to do this, he’s just going to be another statistic on the streets. He ain’t this, he ain’t that. I’m happy he went to jail.’ I just kept my eyes on the prize. I knew what I wanted to do. I knew what I wanted to accomplish. And I took that motivation and kept it going. So don’t let anybody tell you you can’t do anything.”

  208. koakaneβ„’ January 2, 2009 10:18 pm


    I too congratulate Utah on a great win. I hate the MWC for leaving and not being fair to us but they are a mid major conference and until we get equal status gotta support them in the post season.

    also not to worry about dragging on with sb and jj. it’s done over and gone. but sometime to improve the future we have to remember the past and not make the same mistakes again and again.

  209. whitey January 2, 2009 10:18 pm

    this year, i not going follow the 48 hr rule after a game. i rather get things off my chest (or stomach) then agonized over it for 2 days. i just going say whatever is on my mind.

  210. 808ike January 2, 2009 10:19 pm

    Some intense posting.

  211. Garret January 2, 2009 10:20 pm


    I agree with everything you said in post #202. Please don’t take anything I said as being a criticism of you or a doubt of your objectivity.

    By the way, I think that I’m a homer… but sometimes I challenge myself to think from other perspectives to try to balance things. Maybe I can go too far on the other side of the issue, but that is probably necessary to make the point.

  212. Kekoa January 2, 2009 10:20 pm

    If all else fails…just call 1-800-244-4456 or (1-800-Big-Hilo)

  213. whitey January 2, 2009 10:25 pm

    kekoa, this year no take prisoners cause going cost you money. with that said, kick arse warriors, win or lose, then after the game, congratulate your opponent for a good game and be proud of your accomplishments.

  214. koakaneβ„’ January 2, 2009 10:28 pm

    eh garret not problem, I understand why we blog, why we are passionate for UH successes and know not to take things personal. plus further more with a dad who can make a killa chicken hekka his son can not be that bad. :mrgreen:

    happy new year to your family

  215. koakaneβ„’ January 2, 2009 10:31 pm


    one day I going try to hoof it ova to maui and experience the dark side with you. but before dat I going one dive shop and buy on beeg night light so I can make it back. bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  216. Pomai January 2, 2009 10:31 pm

    DPK I sure do agree with you on the BcS, they need to go. We need to have a 16 team playoff, and the NCAA needs to step up to the plate, it is time for the Tail(BcS, TV Networks) to stop wagging the Dog(NCAA) and the Dog to start wagging the tail.

    To me it’s not brain surgery to have a 16 team playoff and still keep all the bowl games. Look if I can come up with a format in 10 min. surely the NCAA can come up with one that will be fair to all of the teams in D1.


  217. Kekoa January 2, 2009 10:33 pm

    Whitey ~ Thanks for your insight Maui Man! Always good to hear from you.

  218. 808ike January 2, 2009 10:33 pm

    Everyone substantiated their topics very well, both pros and cons
    on an issue.

  219. Pomai January 2, 2009 10:33 pm

    playoff = http://tsai-kos.com/uhsports-history/playoff.htm

  220. whitey January 2, 2009 10:38 pm

    koakane, it is not as dark as it seems. and no worry about the dive light, i get one of those 1 mil power flashlight. i use that when i need to signal for batman. hahahahahaaa

  221. Ralph January 2, 2009 10:38 pm

    for the masochist, the na wahine bb game is about to replay of K5 at 10:30

  222. koakaneβ„’ January 2, 2009 10:39 pm

    kekoa I figgah this brew808 guy just like the tsaiko’s but even badda. he probably fit in like saloon pilot craka and condense cream. I bet money he can sing, eat and raise hell with the best of us. what you think?

  223. whitey January 2, 2009 10:40 pm

    somebody mentioned about the vb picture of the team. they no look big cause they all the same size, 6′ 3″ and taller. imagine the warriors o and d line this year. yahoooooo

  224. 808ike January 2, 2009 10:41 pm


    Ready to watch E-bolla virus coach. Heard first half 17 TO. Second half
    wahines did better, only 16 TO.

  225. whitey January 2, 2009 10:42 pm

    808ike, how’s your fingers???

  226. koakaneβ„’ January 2, 2009 10:43 pm

    shout out to 808ike, howzit bruddah, how long took you for get that message out

    whitey roflmao

    ralph my wessai nile virus prevents me from watching

  227. BG January 2, 2009 10:44 pm


    Please add Betty and I to the KK list. We’re looking forward to seeing everyone there!

  228. FloridaTed January 2, 2009 10:44 pm

    Davone Bess really is a chicken skin story. He is a living example of a person who’s brain stays connected to his soul and becomes a person of conscience, regardless of circumstances, gravitating to the light and succeeding.

    Others brains disconnect from the soul and become people without conscience, letting the brain alone run the show, running on faulty programs and thus gravitate to the darkness.

    That is why so often you see two siblings from the same family and circumctance, one becomes a criminal, the other the opposite.

  229. brew808 January 2, 2009 10:48 pm

    FINGERS!!? Fingers!? bruddah 808ike only needs one! πŸ˜†

  230. 808ike January 2, 2009 10:48 pm

    There is a blonde female asst. coach for Pepperdine who is as tall
    as E-bolla.

  231. Just Saying January 2, 2009 10:49 pm

    Garret is boring me to death with his off-topic crap.

  232. brew808 January 2, 2009 10:50 pm

    The only part of “saloon pilot craka” that I resemble is the cracked part! 😈

  233. 808ike January 2, 2009 10:50 pm

    Practicing with 2 fingers now.

  234. brew808 January 2, 2009 10:52 pm

    whitey – What did you say you had for dinner tonight? Naaah – never mind cause it’s “pau, lost, and it is history”…. πŸ˜†

  235. brew808 January 2, 2009 10:54 pm

    Hey! What happened to post #231? I swear – it was just there. It seems to have simply vanished! 😯

  236. 808ike January 2, 2009 10:55 pm

    FloridaTed #135,


  237. brew808 January 2, 2009 10:56 pm

    Wow – that SteveM is sure on the ball. I think BG & Betty appeared on the KK list in real time! πŸ˜€

  238. FloridaTed January 2, 2009 10:56 pm

    I like todays discussion, good reads.

    Garret is always very good with his cool headed analysis. We can all be rabid fans, which most of us are, but we can’t be blind to the issues.

    The BCS right now is a Gordian Knot, that will be very difficult to untangle and, as Garret pointed out so eloquently, may have unintended consequences for the WAC and the Warriors. It’s always good to be somewhat careful with what we wish for.

    For the next couple of years the biggest priority should be bringing up the entire WAC to an overall higher level and the Warriors becoming as good as possible.

  239. SteveM January 2, 2009 10:59 pm


  240. 808ike January 2, 2009 11:01 pm

    Wahine BB players are not doing so well. E-bolla wants an up tempo
    game. Looks like their bodies are moving faster than their brains with
    all the TO.

  241. jm2375 January 2, 2009 11:02 pm

    uhhhh, Wahine had big problems with turnovers last year too. Coaching or personnel?

    No one answered my question from a few weeks ago when we started making waves about e-Bolla. So I ask it again.

    How much is his buyout clause?

  242. koakaneβ„’ January 2, 2009 11:03 pm

    watching a new item on salvage grocery stores on mainland. the store sells same goods as regular stores. only difference is the labels … for example on the can of soup and box of cereal it advertised breast cancer month which was in october but it had the same experation date on a similar soup and cereal at different supermarket just had a different label on it. cost was about 50 to 70 cents less.

    rememba had one store near ward that did the same. think was call Hamada store.

  243. 808ike January 2, 2009 11:05 pm

    Not players fault.

  244. whitey January 2, 2009 11:05 pm

    ok, past 10:30 so can talk about fuud. tonight was good fuud, dry noodles, roast beef, romaine salad w/won ton, potato salad, baked ham. then went darkside and had 2 birus. spacecraft was on auto to get home and neva encounter any alien crafts.

  245. brew808 January 2, 2009 11:05 pm

    UH can upgrade it’s own schedule, and WIN but I see little it can really do to help the rest of the WAC other than by leading by (good) example…. The WAC is … the WAC. IMHO 😐

  246. whitey January 2, 2009 11:10 pm

    and tomorrow night going be better cause going to birthday party for my 1 yr old in law nephew’s baby. does that sound correct???? just the pupus going be too much.

  247. brew808 January 2, 2009 11:10 pm

    whitey – Sorry…. your dinner described in #244 is β€œpau, lost, and it is history”…. Your own words bruddah! πŸ˜†

  248. Kekoa January 2, 2009 11:11 pm

    Brew ~ I’m guessing that you have already made plans to attend the UH game in Sept. I hope you are looking forward to engaging in lite conversation with the EIS team, as much as we are with you.

    We are sure your critical evaluation of the Vegas Beru supply will be spot on. Mr. Las Vegas will also be guest hosting this important sampling event. What happens in Vegas…stays…

  249. brew808 January 2, 2009 11:13 pm

    jm2009+366 – Re: e(for exit)-bolla

    Unannounced by the university, Bolla signed a four-year extension over the summer that will keep him at the helm through the 2010-11 season.

    Because Bolla’s contract was finalized before the salary range for his position was raised by the University of Hawai’i Board of Regents this month, his pay is still restricted by the previous salary.

    The Regent’s action raised the maximum annual salary for the position from 71,388 to $135,000, to $118,488 to $209,784.

    Bolla’s original three-year contract called for an annual salary of $120,000. While declining to specify the terms of his current agreement, Bolla said his salary falls “on the low end” of the current range.


  250. koakaneβ„’ January 2, 2009 11:18 pm

    nite all need the zzzzzzzzzzz to improve my wisenheimer. play nice now and be good to each other.

  251. brew808 January 2, 2009 11:18 pm

    At first – I read that whitey was going to his “1-yr old” … “nephew’s” – baby. One-year old already has baby?!!! 😯 Whoah- bugga got Jason and all of the rest of us beat! πŸ˜†

  252. 808ike January 2, 2009 11:19 pm

    jm2375 #241,

    The new contract between E-bolla and HF was of the hush hush
    variety. The press and TV media did not know of the contract
    extension. When the news broke out of his new contract, other
    topics in sports were more important such as JJ leaving, HF fired,
    and Coach Mac hired. So it went under the radar screen. As far as
    buyout clause and/or contract ,it was not outlined in the papers.

  253. brew808 January 2, 2009 11:20 pm

    Vegas got beeru???? 😯

  254. 808ike January 2, 2009 11:22 pm


    Contracts are public documents. Need to do research.

  255. FloridaTed January 2, 2009 11:25 pm


    the WAC has actually made some good strides for improvement, Utah State and NMST have hired very good coaches with a lot of promise and Idaho is definately on the upswing.

    With Hawaii I’m really hoping for some serious improvement on the O-line, a real key to our system and open the competition at QB. We have some great young guns in the fold and I m really curious about Corey Nielsen. WE have to give them serious looks in spring.

    I’m not totally sold on Alex yet. He has looked great at times, but then……

    We’ll have a great bunch of receivers available, lets hope they all pan out and put the excitement back into our Offense, that was lacking most of the time this season. Win or lose, if they play exciting football, even the losses are a little easier to swallow.

    In 2005 they were 5 -7, but the offense was still fun to watch. This year was kind of blah, that was part of the problem with fan support.

  256. jm2375 January 2, 2009 11:25 pm

    OK, it’s past 11pm, so how’s bout some frivolity.

    I stay drooling at da terebi while getting sum cultcha. “Much Ado About Nothing” with Denzel, Keanu, Kenneth Branagh and Robert Sean Leonard. yum yum. πŸ˜€

  257. 808ike January 2, 2009 11:29 pm

    As usual brew808 made me look stupid. Is there a way to erase #252?

  258. Ralph January 2, 2009 11:31 pm

    JMxxxx on your hubby side, are there any cuban relatives who can play baseball and have college eligibility…

  259. brew808 January 2, 2009 11:32 pm

    jm2009+366 – Did you read koakaneβ„’‘s #250 post. I believe he was talking to you ….

    #250 koakaneβ„’: January 2nd, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    nite all need the zzzzzzzzzzz to improve my wisenheimer. (jm2009+366) play nice now and be good to each other(brew).

  260. brew808 January 2, 2009 11:36 pm

    FloridaTed – Re: #255 –

    I don’t disagree that USU and NMSU appear to be on the path towards improvement. We need Idaho to step and and join them. But I fail to see how UH helped them or can he help them other than taking care of Warrior business on and off the field! 😐

  261. 808ike January 2, 2009 11:38 pm

    2005 team was more exciting than this years team. JJ is unpredictable,
    therefore raising the level of excitement. Ron Lee is far more predictable
    in his play calling.

  262. whitey January 2, 2009 11:39 pm

    me and my friend remy want to be the first to say Happy 3rd day of 2009 and sayonara.

  263. brew808 January 2, 2009 11:40 pm

    808ike – Re: #257 – Don’t worry….

    You = one (now two?) finger intelligent posts with thought and consideration,

    me = ten finger blather…. πŸ™„

  264. brew808 January 2, 2009 11:43 pm

    whitey – Same Remy? I thought he/she “ran” out on you already! πŸ˜†

  265. FloridaTed January 2, 2009 11:45 pm

    That’ our fearless WAC comissioners and respective Presidents and AD’s jobs. We just have to become the best we can be and let the chips fall where they may.

    Good night gang. 5:30 am am here and serious zzzzz time. Asta manana.

  266. Da Punchbowl Kid January 2, 2009 11:45 pm

    I love this blog. And the posters here. We’ve had some very interesting posting going on, very intense. Good stuff. I raise a virtual beer to all of my friends here and toast you all… Cheers Tsaikos!


  267. Stretch January 2, 2009 11:45 pm

    good evening tsaikos

    i guess whitey is being a good boy tonight and staying home.

  268. HiFlyer January 2, 2009 11:46 pm

    brew, must be a new one.

  269. al β„’ January 2, 2009 11:51 pm

    whitey…..hey, i wonder if that is the same remy that i knew?

  270. jm2375 January 2, 2009 11:52 pm

    Ralph – sorry, as far as we know, there’s no other relatives in Cuba. btw, hubby is Tsai-ko-size.

    brew – I haven’t broken that resolution yet, have I? πŸ˜•

  271. brew808 January 2, 2009 11:54 pm

    808ike – my 2 cents….

    R. Lee was severely handicapped by the atrocious OL play and the unsettled 4-ring circus at QB. I also truly believe that we were completely spoiled by Colt and his 4-dreaded receivers. The R&S absolutely requires the WR’s and QB to read each other and make adjustments on the fly. The 2008 WR’s never had the chance to develop w/ or w/o the QB. So – I’m willing to see how 2009 progresses.

    What does concern me is there appeared to be little “game-time” adjustments to the offense (actually this also applies more broadly). Pregame preparation is only one aspect of coaching. You have to be able to make real-time game adjustments – coach, communicate, and motivate your players to respond, etc. I rarely, if ever, saw that happen this season – and that is FRIGHTENING! 😯 😐 😯

  272. jm2375 January 2, 2009 11:54 pm

    brew – no forget, watch da Hoyas tomorrow morning vs Pitt. HOYA SAXA!!! πŸ™‚

  273. 808ike January 3, 2009 12:00 am

    brew808 #271—DITTO!!!!

  274. brew808 January 3, 2009 12:03 am

    Pittsburgh is 13-0, ranked #3, and coached by (former UH assistant) Jamie Dixon. GU has a very loyal alumni/fan in the 808. πŸ˜•

  275. 808ike January 3, 2009 12:03 am


    O-line– 4 guards and 1 center. The OT in question are really guards.

  276. Ralph January 3, 2009 12:09 am

    JMxxxxx not good…..no speed

  277. brew808 January 3, 2009 12:10 am

    ~~β€’~~~~β€’~~~~β€’~ ★ ★ ★ Go WARRIORS!!! ★ ★ ★ ~β€’~~~~β€’~~~~β€’~~

  278. Ralph January 3, 2009 12:11 am

    imagine Dixon and Petino coached UH as assistants to make their mark elsewhere and we end up with nice guys….hoya

  279. al β„’ January 3, 2009 12:11 am

    well garret…..i know that dane is going to nebraska-omaha to get his master’s. but, i was just throwing out a likeness of his profile that could fit the bill here.

    and no, pride. has too much to accomplish at his day job. he did however, think dane’s uncle would make for a great oline candidate should that scenario ever be played out.

  280. Ralph January 3, 2009 12:12 am

    hoya sounds like a pidgin word spoken by a korean lady

  281. jm2375 January 3, 2009 12:12 am

    brew – Hoyas beat #2 UConn on Monday, so the chance of beating Pitt is statistically high. πŸ˜†

  282. Ralph January 3, 2009 12:19 am

    but the law of averages say hoyas won’t do it two in a row over ranked teams..:)

  283. 808ike January 3, 2009 12:20 am


    In 1 of my prior post, mentioned about the receivers. They couldn’t read
    blitzes. Many times the QB, WR, and SB were all on different pages. On
    a blitz, the receivers need to cut their routes or run shorter routes. Also,
    many times the QB held on to the ball too long. Next year watch GA. He
    winds up like a baseball pitcher when he throws the football. With 8 mon.
    until season starts, it is correctable. Noticed more when he was
    pressured. Went back to bad habits.

  284. Ralph January 3, 2009 12:20 am

    how come my smiley did not appear…worked last night

  285. 808ike January 3, 2009 12:26 am

    New topic—–BB. Big East toughest Conf. May get up to 9 teams in
    NCAA tour.

  286. Ralph January 3, 2009 12:28 am

    808Ike maybe the fb was too heavy when he was under pressure, had to give it a big heave ho to toss the rock.. πŸ™‚

  287. jm2375 January 3, 2009 12:29 am

    ike – and the Hoyas will be at the top!!

    OK, time for go nene, so I can get up in time to watch da game. Hasta manana.

  288. al β„’ January 3, 2009 12:29 am

    er… that would be pitino.

  289. roysan16 January 3, 2009 12:34 am


    The picture of the volleyball players in the beginning of the blog, what brand of shoe?
    I’m guessing Asics.

    For men’s basketball, what brand of shoe?

    In football what brand of shoe?
    I understand it’s UA, but are the players permitted to wear another brand?( Presumely tapped up?)

  290. HiFlyer January 3, 2009 12:36 am

    I wonder what happened to Jason tonight, with all the talk about eliminating the current BCS to a playoff format.

  291. 808ike January 3, 2009 12:38 am

    GU, LU, PITT, UCONN, SU, are all very, very good teams. There is 5
    of top 10. Also cinn.

  292. 808ike January 3, 2009 12:45 am

    Maybe Jason has a hot date tonight?????????

  293. 808ike January 3, 2009 12:48 am

    Someone is calling me from the bedroom.

    My pillow ” Time to sleep! ”

    Esme out.

  294. HiFlyer January 3, 2009 1:23 am


  295. Addahknowjoe January 3, 2009 1:49 am

    Earlier in the evening there was so much doom and gloom. If I were to believe everything mentioned about UH’s demise because of their geological location, recruiting deficiencies, scheduling weakness, other conferences advancements and superiority, I’d seriously have to say why in the world do we even have a *#%@ing football team!!

    Once again, it’s easy to point out flaws. What’s difficult is to suggest solutions.

    We gotta stop being crabs in the bucket.

    Wishing Utah lose? Why can’t we learn from their success. Strive to be just as good as Utah? What are they doing right? Not only as a program, but as a university, as fans and as a community? Mind you, they were once lowly as us in the WAC. Somewhere along the way they made the commitment to change. Same can be said for Boise. Lets take what they’re doing right and apply it to us.

    And Boise like leave? Frick, Let ‘Um Go! Let’s step up to the plate and make ourselves better and help other schools who want to remain in our conference to get better as well.

    TV deals and national exposure? Hello! We’ve got exclusive rights to national airtime on ESPN that no other program across the country can pull off. We’re playing in a time slot that spans the nation from 8PST through 12midnight EST. Our only competition then are the local news, reruns of the days games and infomercials. Every bigtime program would kill to have that kind of deal. We need to use that exclusive time slot to our advantage. Not convenient enough for the casual viewer on the East coast? Screw ‘um! We want the hardcore, can’t get enough football viewer to be watching us. Besides, we be primetime on the west coast. And that’s where majority of our recruiting comes from anyway.

    Honestly though, after all that’s said and done, the one thing we have control over that we can change and make a difference is ourselves. I challenge each and everyone of you to step up and make a positive difference for UH.

  296. Silky Voice of the Gorn January 3, 2009 2:23 am

    This is how you gain national respect. Go out, take care of business, execute your game plan, and beat the living crap out of your opponent in a BCS bowl. I personally did not give Utah a prayer in this game but when they came out and played with a level of intensity that transcended the television set, I began to root for them solely because of the fire they displayed. Win or lose, that is how I like to see teams play. With fight and fire. And I don’t dislike Bama either because most of their fans were pure class in 2006. Utah and the MWC managed to gain my respect because THEY EARNED IT ON THE FIELD.

    The way Utah punched Alabama in the mouth (sacking JPW 8 times and holding the Tide to 208 total yards is pure domination) legitimized themselves and the Mountain West Conference. That victory by lowly Wyoming at Tennessee no longer looks like a fluke either. Forget about the fact that Florida beat Bama 31-20. I watched that game and Utah looked and played way more dominating football than Florida did. Speed wise, Utah would have given Florida problems. This is what good coaching does. It elevates the play of the players.

    Utah going undefeated now also reveals what a scam this entire (B)ull (C)rap (S)ystem really is because they deserve a shot at being crowned the National Champions but won’t due to the system. And while that notion may seem damaging to UH and the WAC, again, Utah and the MWC deserves the accolades because they took care of business throughout the season. If the WAC wants the same respect (football wise), then the various schools need to raise the bar not only in conference play but OOC as well. It is put up or shut up time. Respect is earned, not granted, and only BSU in the WAC has been consistent at doing this.

    Utah’s success also highlights Hawaii’s embarrassing performance at last years Sugar Bowl. That distinction will be a huge monkey on UH’s back much worse than the BYU one. Non-BCS is 3 and 1 in BCS bowls and guess who that 1 loss is attributed to and will continually be attributed to? Additionally, the rest of the WAC teams who went bowling this season at least played competitively unlike the lackluster performance by UH in the Hawaii Bowl. Sheesh, even vonAppen’s squad had far more competitive fire and played a much more talented Bob Davie coached ND down to the wire in 1997. This only further perpetuates the joke of a reputation that UH football has in the eyes of the rest of the college football world. That goes right down to the small time thinking that has permeated the state of Hawaii in terms of not investing in the facilities at UH which on the athletic side, is below some D1AA programs even with the Ching Field upgrade. And UH Manoa has many problems with administrative and academic facilities being poor as well. This level of neglect is unconscionable. Whereas other places look at these as investments in the future, the people who run this state have seen it the other way for decades which is why the state is at a roadblock on many different issues (including the lack of a diversified economy). In order to make money, you have to invest money.

    Side track example. Look at the amount of money they are dumping into that rust bucket called Aloha Stadium in hopes that the bandaid fixes will last another 30 years. It is pouring good money down the drain rather than looking at creative solutions including downsizing a new structure which that money could fund. While that might seem counterintuitive, look at UH attendance. They barely manage 40,000 per game. The Hawaii Bowl still struggled to sell out even with Notre Dame. Even during last years run, look at the turnstile attendance. And arguments about the Pro Bowl and its 50,000 requirement fly out the window as well when they exercised their option to rotate out of Hawaii. Is the state really getting its bang for the buck dumping all that money into the rust palace with the extra side revenues the Pro Bowl brings in versus putting that money into a smaller but new, modern, attractive stadium which fits the overall needs of the state of Hawaii including high school football and UH (since UH nor its boosters would be able to raise the funding on their own to build their own on campus stadium)?

    The state should have had an option to downsize to something like a 40,000 seat concrete stadium with partial sideline seats (premium seating) and the rest being lower cost seat backs. Build a structure within the budgetary constraints but with a design which could be enhanced and expanded (capacity wise) down the road from funds generated by naming opportunities, premium and luxury box seating. Unfortunately, most everything done in Hawaii is with short term thinking and bandaid fixes where it ultimately ends up costing more down the road to fix properly. The price tag to build a new stadium 30 years down the road is going to be more than double the current day cost to build a new 50,000 seat concrete stadium (the numbers for that are in that 2005 DAGS report).

    But going back to Utah’s win, can anyone now blame Boise State’s lobbying to position themselves for entry into the MWC? I felt their president was full of it making noise but now I can understand he is just positioning BSU to be in the best possible situation for the inevitable. Come 2011 after the current BCS contract expires at the end of the 2010 season, the Cotton Bowl, which used to be a traditional big bowl during the SWC days will likely be included in what is being called the next generation BCS (Chick-Fil-A and the Capital One Bowls will also be lobbying for this coveted spot). The 2010 Cotton Bowl will move to the Dallas Cowboy’s new stadium priming its way as a selling point into the BCS. That is right in TCU’s backyard of Dallas-Fort Worth. With the addition of another BCS bowl, adding another AQ conference makes sense.

    The MWC now has an extremely good selling point and the inside track as a BCS auto qualifier and can increase their stock by running the table again this upcoming season or at least placing several teams into the top 20. Utah’s convincing Sugar Bowl win provides a shot in the arm for higher preseason rankings to them, BYU, and TCU putting Boise State (given their loss to TCU) and the WAC at a clear disadvantage. The WAC’s dismal bowl performance including two losses to the MWC doesn’t help things any. And if Boise football continues dominating the WAC in 2009 and 2010, the arguments are going to grow stronger in favor of seeing them move to a better conference like the way Lou Holtz was drooling on about. People can put on whatever rose colored glasses they want but the WAC is beginning to look like the Mickey Mouse conference that it really is. If the conference is not overall competitive, it is difficult to play at a high level. Boise plays at that higher level because of their system and excellent coaching which is why they have been able to dominate the WAC. And while from TCU’s perspective, SMU might be a better choice WHEN (no longer is this an IF with this Sugar Bowl win) the MWC expands (rivalry game, Dallas-Fort Worth television market, local travel partner), there are no guarantees JJ will get them to the sort of level of play which BSU is at consistently which would boost the MWC status further. BSU brings instant credibility in football and increases the power rating for the MWC. The business decision in these economic times is going to trump some of the other concerns some MWC member schools may have about BSU because the BCS money is going to make up for that.

    McMackin… if you even bother to read this from Las Vegas, you have your work cut out for you in your remaining 4 seasons and that $1.1 million you are being paid. Contrast to Kyle Whittingham whose original six year deal (to expire in 2010) was $4 million. He deservedly earned his new five year $6 million contract. UH had many chances to redeem themselves this past season but failed. The same mistakes were made over and over. The so called strength and your forte, the defense, turned out to be a bust of swiss cheese proportions giving up too many big plays. That shameful pop-warner performance against Notre Dame set the program back more than the Kool-aid drinkers would like to admit. Coaches prior to the Jones-era like Tomey and Wagner at least fielded teams which played competitively against the talent laden OOC power teams. The players you had were likely far more talented than what Tomey or Wags had to work with. Talent however can be wasted if they are not coached up (look at Notre Dame and how they’ve managed to underachieve because of coaching issues under that arrogant pighead Weiss).

    The product you and your coaching staff put out on the field was for the most part, unentertaining (the Nevada game and the Cinci game before the meltdown were probably the most entertaining) and furthermore, an embarrassment to the state of Hawaii from a national perspective. And what was one of YOUR rules? Was it not to embarrass the program? Donovan should realistically expect to see 2009 football season ticket sales drop putting the athletic department further in the hole. In these economic times, you are going to have to put a compelling and competitive product out on the field. If you don’t, the economic realities of these times will manifest itself with people voting with their pocket book. Fortunately for you coach, Donovan will be in no position to fire you like he and Yoshida did with Wagner and then vonAppen because the university won’t have the money to buy out your overpriced contract. You and your staff get a pass this first season just because of the transition. You and your staff will likely get a pass this upcoming season which will be challenging due to the loss on the defensive side and the serious need for improvement on the offensive side. It is not just the O-line. They do bear a part of the responsibility but there were also many times when they provided Alexander more than enough time and he just hung on to the ball way too long. There were also times when the receivers ran the wrong routes or dropped the ball on catches that should have been made. Moral, it is also competency at the QB and receiver positions. As JJ used to say, repetition and practicing the base offense until they reach a level of unconscious competence is what makes it successful. Anyone who watched Graham Harrell, Colt McCoy and Brian Johnson could see how quickly their release was and how they were on the same wavelength as their receivers. Colt Brennan had that plus an uncanny accuracy.

    Throughout this season, there has been a disconnect between O-line, QB, and receivers. Some of this was due to the QB carousel, some of it is due to certain O-line personnel, some of it is due to the coaching, and part of this was due to the offseason practicing from under center and trying to change the R&S from what JJ was running instead of slowly transitioning and taking advantage of the competencies that the returning offensive players had learned and practiced. Rather than simplify and getting the basics down on offense, they modified and tried to add things while the foundation was not even stable. The responsibility of that lies in the decisions made by the coaching staff which McMackin has been too quick to praise far too often. Anyone NOT blind who watched the sidelines saw chaos and disorganization. Why aren’t the QB’s all together and near Rolo so that everyone can learn and be on the same page. Why do some players completely ignore Smith? This is just the tip of the iceberg of the sideline mess. So is it any surprise there are communication issues and clock management issues which for some reason, you coach, don’t seem to think is an issue. It was humorous during one ESPN televised games where they showed Hawaii fans doing the timeout signal while the announcers questioned the seemingly lack of urgency by the UH coaching staff at calling a timeout. Andre Ware’s statements during the ND game were also spot on (he can talk because he ran the R&S) as well as the other announcers saying UH lacked fire during the warmup. This all seems to point to the coaches not being able to motivate and fireup the players. There are times when actions speak louder than words.

    Coach, your 3rd season, 2010, starts off with USC and this Warrior fan would like to at least see UH play disciplined and competitive football by that time. I am not delusional and don’t expect Hawaii to beat USC. All I am asking for is a complete 4 quarter challenge with the possibility of an upset against a big name program and not a bodybag shellacking like the outcome of the Florida, Oregon State, and Notre Dame games. Dick Tomey’s teams played against a Charles White USC team down to the 4th quarter, led against a Turner Gill, Roger Craig, and future Heisman winner Mike Rozier led Nebraska team 16-0 for most of the game until a 37 point blitz, had a Barry Switzer coached OU squirming only to lose by 4, lost another close one the following year to a Hayden Fry coached Iowa, and also kept it close against Bo Schembechler’s Michigan squad in Tomey’s final year at UH. Tomey’s team managed to beat schools that were physically superior like South Carolina twice, Arizona State, and Wisconsin. Wags also did fairly well against big name OOC opponents including some hallmark wins. The point being is that Tomey’s and Wag’s (except towards the end when he clearly lost control of the team with the internal fighting) had instilled discipline in their players, played in a tougher WAC, and was therefore able to compete head-to-head with the best where they weren’t easily blown out by those big name teams and garnered a reputation of playing big name teams tough. 2006 and 2007 saw a move towards the next level of national respect but that all came crashing down in the Sugar Bowl and the way this past season went including the way they lost of ND on national TV. Continue losing in that manner and all that groundwork layed during the JJ-era will need to be rebuilt from scratch.

  297. i should be coach January 3, 2009 3:04 am

    I was at Chili’s tonight in Aiea. I over heard two gentleman speaking and they were saying that Oline coach at UH is going to be fired. I interuped and told them that I am a UH fan and that the UH forums had rumors etc about the same thing. the local guy said it is a “must” but said he has no inside info. i asked him if any other coaches were one the hot seat. he said , and i quote, ” a new o line coach is a done deal. i asked him if brian smith is gone , he said he did not know if he is fired or is going to be moved. i asked, moved to were? he said he might have a different role>>>>>>>>>>>
    BUT, there are a lot of things up in the air with coach right now.
    i asked the guy, who was very inibriated and I doubt a lot of what he said , were he got his info, who is he, and I quote…….”I am Macks right hand man” >.>>>i dont know who he is! but by all accounts, Oline coach bsmith is done.

  298. Pomai January 3, 2009 3:38 am

    i should be coach

    The key word in your post is “inibriated”.

  299. 99club January 3, 2009 4:21 am


  300. 99club January 3, 2009 4:42 am

    Good morning Tsaikos…

    Wow Gorn…over 2000 words on UH football in one post! I don’t agree with everything but that was an excellent read. I don’t think we’ll ever have the cash in the state/UH budget to do all the things that would make us look like any of the big programs. I’m just amazed that we’ve accomplished as much as we have considering the hurdles of a small market, a comparatively small recruiting base, and the tough economic conditions that the majority of Hawaii’s fans experience.

  301. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc January 3, 2009 5:10 am

    If you had attended the Wahine basketball game in person Friday afternoon, you would have seen why it is that Jim Bolla needs to be replaced. Watching the game on tv restricts the entire experience.

    1. If there were over 100 people in attendance NOT including the pep band, cheerleaders, Stan Sheriff Center employees, team members, coaches, and support staff, I would be very surprised. All together, I counted about 160 people on three separate occasions. The failure of both the University community and the larger fan base to support the basketball team must be emotionally devastating to these young women. Since SSC seats about 10,000, 99% of the seats were empty.

    2. Bolla does not interact much with anyone on his staff before or during a game and rarely has any exchanges of any sort with any of his players.

    Unlike Bob Nash who high-fives his players coming back to the bench and walks up & down courtside throughout the game, Bolla sits and observes. I put the binoculars on him several times and never once saw him crack a smile.

    3. The Wahine came back from significant deficits several times, but they lost the game on not only on turnovers but at the free-throw line. These are fundamentals. That’s a coaching deficit.

    4. We decided to continue going to the games because it’s important that the student athletes feel that they are supported even if we do not like their coach.

    5. As for the 3 pm game time, I doubt that it would have made any difference in terms of turnout if it had been scheduled in the evening. My understanding is that a number of issues – staff overtime, cost of utilities, media availability – all led to the time decision. I do know that this afternoon’s game between Colorado and Pepperdine is at 3 pm because of the men’s basketball game with Boise at 7:05 pm.

    6. Counting Sunday’s game – there are nine more home games for the Wahine in the regular season. One game is at 4 pm; four are at 5 pm; and, four are at 7 pm.

    Finally, switching to another topic: The responses to my query about the (mostly) yellow figures on posts evoked some very interesting responses. Got your message(s) loud & clear except that no one answered my core questions: What do they mean? Words have meaning. Pictures have meaning. What do these graphics mean? Why are they used? I had never seen them before on a website until they started showing up here.

    hird Time’s The Charm – Perhaps we’ll run into some of you at the SSC or the Les Murakami Stadium or the Wahine Softball Stadium during the rest of the school year.

    If you are interested in keeping up with funding for UH projects, a twice-weekly webjournal or blog will start very shortly. Other issues such as universal health care, public education, the rail system, solid waste management, alternative energy, sea level rise, peace in the Middle East, and many more topics will be covered as well. Do drop in if you’ve got something to say or just want to keep current on what’s going on in the world outside of sports.

  302. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc January 3, 2009 5:15 am

    Whoops!! hird Time’s The Charm = Third Time’s The Charm

  303. Kekoa January 3, 2009 6:41 am

    Good Morning Tsaiko’s!

    W/Doc ~ Emoticons have been around for years in differing forms. The name is self-explanatory, it’s all about displaying your emotion on whatever you feel about the subject matter.

    The batch that I use in my personal email box are not the traditional yellow smiley faces. They are brown in color, football and basketball shaped graphics that can be enlarged if need be.

    Like any brevity icon, they are inserted to convey a quick visual message to the receiver. For example, if you think you are the coolest person on the planet today, you can express that thought by inserting the ever popular 😎 smiley. One picture=1 “emotional” word. (1,000 would be overkill).

    Unfortunately, the university that you attended prolly wasn’t ‘sophisticated’ enuff to offer these in any of their classes. Only the always cool *School of Hard Knocks* offer the latest in ultra-hip graphic therapy lessons…get the picture W/Doc? 😳

  304. bighilofan2 January 3, 2009 6:59 am

    Silky Voice in the Gorn,
    what a blast! I agree wit much wat yu stay talkin. I liked da Yuutz cuz day came to play. And that triple trick play, max excitement!

    yu absolutely right about coupla tings. coach too quick to cova for da odda coaches. afekz credibility.

    but yur most accurate, heads on, hands down analysis wuz describin
    our Notre Dame performance a pop warner production. that hurt in da most intensest of wayz. i had mo fun wit my kuz an frenz at da Tgate.

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