Unga: LB picks UH

Linebacker Tui Unga, a linebacker from Etiwanda, Calif., has made an oral commitment to play for the Rainbow Warriors in 2014.

Unga is a 2012 graduate of Rancho Cucamonga and a former Fresno State recruit.

He is 6 feet 3 and about 220 pounds.

Unga’s older brother is J.J. Unga, an offensive tackle with the Baltimore Ravens. His cousin is Reno Mahe, a former BYU running back who played with the Philadelphia Eagles.


  1. 1 December 17, 2013 6:57 am


  2. hilosupaman December 17, 2013 6:59 am

    Ineresting that we are landing these guys without knowing who DC is going to be

  3. whitey December 17, 2013 7:01 am

    Good morning Tsaikos

  4. 3-Prong December 17, 2013 7:02 am

    Lovin this weather and the improved quality of recruits! Welcome to Paradise Tui!

  5. whitey December 17, 2013 7:08 am

    d1, get sunlight now, so hope you have a great day.

  6. top6!!!! December 17, 2013 7:15 am


  7. top7!!!! December 17, 2013 7:18 am

    Yay top7

  8. whitey December 17, 2013 7:23 am

    Warrior class of 2014 is filling up and the coaches are doing good at recruiting

  9. tommui December 17, 2013 7:28 am


    The influx of recruits maybe due to the fact (as Boola once stated) that there is a lot of talent out there and few scholarships to go around.

    Good going Coaches!

  10. A-House December 17, 2013 7:29 am

    Unga – 2012 grad – what was he doing the past year? when does his eligibility start? is he still a 5 years to play 4?

  11. A-House December 17, 2013 7:30 am

    wonder how many spaces, if any, are being held for Hawaii players? or, is UH targeting 2014 local high school players?

  12. Boolakanaka December 17, 2013 7:31 am

    Aloha kakou! Another snowy day in the big apple….

  13. boooyah December 17, 2013 7:34 am


  14. UHfan808 December 17, 2013 7:37 am

    Good morning, Tsai-kos and Lurk-ers!

    6′ 3″ recruit! Welcome, Tui!

  15. Marleysdad December 17, 2013 7:51 am

    ‘Morning. Looks like another nice recruit.

  16. wasabi December 17, 2013 8:00 am


    10..looks like he didn’t qualify in 2012

  17. Ipu Man December 17, 2013 8:07 am

    Good golley molley. Way to go whoever is doing the recruiting.

  18. kkobi425 December 17, 2013 8:07 am

    Everybody that brings up Klemm’s name can forget it. He is making 700k at UCLA.


  19. Rodney December 17, 2013 8:08 am

    Very nice,de for us I’m sure.

  20. PaulCrewe December 17, 2013 8:08 am

    Norwood makes $483,994
    Akina makes $439,500
    Jeff Ulbrich makes $400,000
    Kalani Sitake makes $500,000
    Mark Banker makes $490,000

    According to ST “UH doesn’t have $300,000 for a DC”

    Assistant coaches salaries

  21. jm2375 December 17, 2013 8:21 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Welcome to the new Warrior commits.

    Still waiting for the mvb stories, Mr. Tsai. 🙄 😆

  22. Former UH Athlete December 17, 2013 8:26 am

    If UH can find themselves a DC, UH has the potential to have a mean defense in 2-3 years.

    Assuming everybody puts on some weight over the next few years, the 2016 Starting DLine could look like:
    Tackles: Sr-KT (6’2″ 300), Sr-Rasmussen (6’4″ 300)
    Ends: Jr-Castro (6’2″ 260), So-Silva (6’5″ 270)

    Plus Fairchild, Manoa, and Meffy will be in the mix once they get more size. Of course, these guys need to grow, stay healthy, and stay eligible.

  23. KapaaWarrior December 17, 2013 8:34 am

    Keep’em coming in! WE NEED GREAT OLINE RECRUITS ! OLINE !!!!!!! OLINE !!!!!!! OLINE !!! ALL DAY !!!!!!

  24. (Jesse)James December 17, 2013 8:40 am

    Good brisk morning Tsaikos!!!

    Lookin’ Good…..

  25. Leahi2 December 17, 2013 8:48 am

    #11 A House. I share your concern for Hawaii’s High School players. Yet in the past most of the better players opted for a mainland college. Consequently we had to go down deeper into the barrel to get local players. This never worked out too well for UofH recruiting. So I say go out and get the best they can get anywhere. I realize that there’s a caveat here in that we MIGHT risk losing fan attendance. After all its nice to see family members and other relatives, not to mention friends and neighbors, come out in droves to cheer on the Rainbow warriors. Here’s hoping that this new approach works out better in the long run.

  26. Creative721 December 17, 2013 8:52 am

    Does anyone think that hiring Jerry Glanville for the DC position would work? He did it for 2 seasons previously and UH’s defense back then was pretty good.

  27. Boolakanaka December 17, 2013 8:55 am

    If part of the desired features of any potential coaching candidates is a local connection and a cost conscious salary, then I again reiterate the names from yesterday: Ikaika Malloe, Kim McCloud ( Dino’s right hand man) , and Ink Aleaga (not currently in a coaching, but runs academic advising at UW, could be a potential football operations guy).

  28. Former UH Athlete December 17, 2013 8:59 am

    26… anybody would be an upgrade at this point.

    I’m just curious to see the list of applicants (if it ever gets publicized)

  29. Former UH Athlete December 17, 2013 9:03 am

    20… my fingers got tired of scrolling down trying to find the UH coaches… (had to use the “find” function)

    Mario Price (LA-Monroe) must really want to be a coach…. He could make more money working full-time at In-n-Out burger.

  30. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 17, 2013 9:06 am


    not having money and all would probably mean the list of names would include people like Marty Fitzwallace, James O’Toole, Bill Amifil, Tony Thompson, and Russell Monks. Never heard of them? Well, just setting you up for the real thing.

    Funny though we could find $1.1M when we never had any money several years ago to pay for a HC yet we can’t find $50K when we REALLY need a DC. Ha ha ha ha.

  31. boya_jr December 17, 2013 9:07 am

    Welcome Tui Unga! Hope you make a name for yourself here.

  32. Kaimiloa December 17, 2013 9:11 am

    A-House… It sure seems like a lot of mainland recruits but we got some early local commits. We can always use more. A quick count of 2014 commits says: 6 from Hawaii, 10 from other states.

  33. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 17, 2013 9:13 am

    Hire Wynn as QB coach and Passing Game Coordinator for 50K and use the rest towards a DC.

    Go to the BOR already to get both a temporary increase to the cap on DC and a temporary decrease to the floor for OC, attach a proviso conditioning how the increase to DC will only be a shift from other funds.

    And stop with this madness about not having $300K for a DC. The money is there, just gotta find a work-around.

  34. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 17, 2013 9:15 am

    I don’t feel that hiring Wynn as OC is a great idea, but maybe we just gamble with it and see what comes of it. Don’t think our record could get any worse.

  35. Boolakanaka December 17, 2013 9:17 am

    Truth be told, at 1-11, up is the only direction you have.

  36. Hodad December 17, 2013 9:20 am

    #26 Glanville working with Norm Chow? Surely you jest.

  37. Creative721 December 17, 2013 9:31 am

    #36 I wasn’t kidding. While Glanville and Chow may not get along in terms of personalities, Glanville knows defense and right now he’s not coaching anywhere. Not sure if he wants to come back to Hawaii though. Last word on Glanville is he is applying for the HC job at Eastern Michigan. If that falls through (which it might because his last HC job was a disaster at Portland State), maybe he would be interested.

  38. jonj December 17, 2013 9:43 am

    37 glanvilles defenses where never that good. they were kill the QB type exciting defenses that gave up a lot of yards. But JJ’s Offense is what help his D!

  39. PurpleMaple December 17, 2013 9:45 am

    The logical choice for DC is Daronte’ Jones. He is qualified and all things considered, promoting from within makes sense.

  40. jeezy33 December 17, 2013 9:54 am

    I would love to hear how JJ’s offense helps the D…

  41. Creative721 December 17, 2013 10:01 am

    #38: Even if some of what you say is true, it would still be an improvement over the defense this past year.

  42. oneseason December 17, 2013 10:09 am

    #30 it sure seems like the total coaching staff budget is much less now than under the JJ and GM. I don’t remember ever seeing an actual dollar comparison. I would expect the decrease would be well over $1M/year, since the HC salary is down about $550K, we have not OC, ….

  43. Boolakanaka December 17, 2013 10:12 am

    Briles, Mora and Harbaugh are among the hard dozen folks being cited for the open UT position.

  44. Kaimiloa December 17, 2013 10:17 am

    The way I understood defensive strategy during JJ’s time was they were mainly after turnovers and not so concerned about giving up big yardage. All JJ needed was more scoring opportunities than the other team. I would hate to be a DC under JJ if I were trying to get a new job. Your stats would look horrible.

  45. tommui December 17, 2013 10:20 am

    Probably why there is no $$ is that our fanatical fans – who will not buy tickets next year – and don’t give any $$ to the UHF for athletics – and who wants champagne but don’t even want to buy beer – are part of the problem.

  46. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 17, 2013 10:24 am

    Look under the couch cushion when no more $…UH get a lot of couches. If they want to, they will. Simple as that. IF they want to…if.

  47. cocobean December 17, 2013 10:29 am

    #26. No. The last thing Chow wants is some bad influence coming in and teaching Jordan Wynn how to be fluent in cussing. Jerry had a poetic touch for stringing those cuss words together to get his point across. Don’t think a good Mormon like Chow could coexist with the profane Jerry Glanville.

    But then again I see your point in that he has name recognition and at one time had a reputation as a defensive coach. Question is how much does he have left in the tank and has he kept up with the evolution of college offenses. People get a little leary when an old time NFL defensive guru like Monte K had problems adjusting his schemes to match the college game.

  48. Shoko December 17, 2013 10:29 am

    When you have an entity that forgives a 12 million debt, you’re not going to get much sympathy from them when seeking additional funding. They expect BJ to be fiscally responsible.

  49. Shoko December 17, 2013 10:32 am

    Could be wrong but I’m sure I read Chow’s lips screaming obscenities on the sideline. 😉

  50. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 17, 2013 10:58 am


    it ain’t about sympathy it ain’t about balancing books. i’m simply stating that if they want it, they will have it. $$$ can be found.

  51. Stephen Tsai December 17, 2013 11:00 am

    I love Glanville but there were some disturbing staff problems when he was DC. He’s, uh, unique.

  52. SteveM December 17, 2013 11:01 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Welcome to the Warriors, Tui Unga!

  53. Stephen Tsai December 17, 2013 11:03 am

    There were some disturbing staff problems when McMackin was head coach , too.

  54. Shoko December 17, 2013 11:10 am

    51. Money can be found? Interesting that BJ not too long ago said that he might have to cut the budgets of other sports because of the forecasted financial shortfall.

  55. Haleakala December 17, 2013 11:14 am

    Wow! Tui Unga has a strong football bloodline. Welcome Tui!

  56. oneseason December 17, 2013 11:17 am

    Possible charity campaign names … “Couches for Coaches” or “Change for Change” …

  57. Boolakanaka December 17, 2013 11:17 am

    I don’t know Daronte Jones from adam, and he may have a beautiful football mind, but I’m from the old Sokol, school of management–you promote based on production. When you are 112th in points allowed, in the country, well, you are not exactly exceptional. It appears we are almost promoting based on a lack of options, and not on recent deliverables. You know what they say in college football–potential will get you fired.

  58. Boolakanaka December 17, 2013 11:18 am

    I don’t know Daronte Jones from adam, and he may have a beautiful football mind, but I’m from the old Sokol, school of management–you promote based on production. When you are 112th in points allowed, in the country, well, you are not exactly exceptional. It appears we are almost promoting based on a lack of options, and not on recent deliverables. You know what they say in college football–potential will get you fired.

  59. SteveM December 17, 2013 11:23 am

    The “man in black” was my favorite coach to watch and follow in the news. Colorful except in attire. But Glanville was and is a head coach. The media wondered how he accepted a subordinate role under JJ, but we were told he wanted to get back into college coaching again. ST’s #52 comment is not surprising.

    Glanville’s defenses played well, often very tired after all the “three and outs” of JJ’s offense–that is, “3 downs and a touchdown, out” brought the defense on the field again after kickoff…

    But note it was McMackin’s defense that was part of the undefeated season… and JJ’s NCAA record tying turn-around.

  60. jonj December 17, 2013 11:38 am

    ST question… Where and are there disturbing staff problems this past year and currently?!? Cuz I don’t remember coaches arguing and not talking to each other during games in past regime’s.

  61. jeezy33 December 17, 2013 11:39 am

    58. Hard to judge Daronte at all at this point. TK is the one who wanted a tight man to man scheme without having the personnel to do so… Also didn’t mix anything up which lead to easy half time adjustments for opposing teams.

  62. jonj December 17, 2013 11:46 am

    40 jeezy I hope that was u being dumb

    But if not JJ’s offense Helped demoralize the other team while lifting the spirits of the Team with a fighting chance. He may have scored quickly but It sure wasn’t the 3 and outs that chows was doing this year. 112th in the country in 3 and outs! Like Kaimloa said JJ’s D was an aggressive D after turnovers.

  63. jonj December 17, 2013 11:46 am

    40 jeezy I hope that was u being dumb

    But if not JJ’s offense Helped demoralize the other team while lifting the spirits of the Team with a fighting chance. He may have scored quickly but It sure wasn’t the 3 and outs that chows was doing this year. 112th in the country in 3 and outs! Like Kaimloa said JJ’s D was an aggressive D after turnovers.

  64. jeezy33 December 17, 2013 11:55 am

    Whether you score in 1 minute or have a 1 minute 3 and out drive, it doesn’t change the outcome of a defense…..

    Hawaii offense was scoring at will against Wyoming and Army and the defense didn’t do crap to regardless…

    When your defense controls time of possession and keeps the D off the field for long periods of time, it helps out the defense. But you still need a good defense regardless..

  65. jm2375 December 17, 2013 12:01 pm

    I see from PIAA’s FB post that the recruiting dead period has begun and will last THROUGH Jan 15th.

  66. Old School Dave December 17, 2013 12:08 pm

    No disrespect to Coach Glanville, but I’d like a coach who will take the time to learn his player’s names (particularly Polynesian ones) and the correct way to pronounce them. Just takes a little time and effort.

  67. Slugger December 17, 2013 12:17 pm

    Welcome, Tui Unga!

    Howdy, Tsaikos!

  68. jonj December 17, 2013 12:28 pm

    so your saying jj scored every 3 plays?? and your telling me jjs top 5 offense every year didn’t help the D???

  69. jonj December 17, 2013 12:30 pm

    and jj never did a no huddle like chow

  70. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 17, 2013 12:30 pm


    look at the Wonder Blunder as example. they didn’t pay attorneys, JD, PR, and others with money that didn’t exist.

  71. jeezy33 December 17, 2013 12:34 pm

    68. Exactly… Northern Illinois scores a lot of points… Their D still sucks… But they do enough to win games… Georgia scored a lot of points this year. Their D sucked.

    There is no correlation of scoring points to having a good D. Time of possession helps you rest your D. That is it.. The amount you score is irrelevant.

    For example… Hawaii’s best defensive performance was against USC. That game probably had the most 3 and outs…

    JJs top 5 offense helped the team win.. It didn’t help the Defense become better.. Hawaii’s defense were what they were… average…

  72. Whars up December 17, 2013 12:34 pm


    The real question is why during the JJ years his defense was better under Glanville and Mack? And why the other years the defense was not good, just like this years 2013 defense? I mean same June Jones offense all those years different result with different DC? I mean June Jones offense should have lifted the defense all 9 years regardless of DC according to your logic? Right.

  73. jeezy33 December 17, 2013 12:34 pm

    Indiana also scored a lot of points… Didn’t make their defense play any better.

  74. jonj December 17, 2013 12:42 pm

    you guys are right in some aspect. But JJs Offense did mentally damage the other team. Right or wrong?? And I would guess those year under Glanville and Mack we has some pretty outstanding players. Right?? mel purcel, ikaika francis, adam leonard, Solomon elimimian, leonard peters, ryan mouton.

    Under Glanville in 2005 we went 5-8 right???? so it wasn’t all good under glanville

  75. jonj December 17, 2013 12:46 pm

    David viekune, blaze soares, and fale laeli. All those guys listed above made it or got a try out with the NFL. Pretty good talent I would say!

  76. jonj December 17, 2013 12:49 pm

    72 I think JJ’s offense did lift the Defense 7 of the 9 years. correct?? only 2 losing seasons with JJ

  77. Bowwar December 17, 2013 12:58 pm

    Problems on the sidelines…I’m surprised no one has mentioned the “blow-out” on the sidelines between Kammeyer and Demo. Whoever the DC, they will need someone who commands the defense and is able to work with his coaches no matter how “volatile” they may be…

  78. Bowwar December 17, 2013 1:00 pm

    People also forget that JJ’s offense dominated so much at times, that we averaged very few punts during the games. Good offense is often the best defense…

  79. fshnpoi December 17, 2013 1:02 pm

    chow can swallow his pride and ask mac to come back as the dc for low pay…just a thought. httr!

  80. al December 17, 2013 1:06 pm

    oh mr. ahouse, did it ever occur to you that not only as others have mentioned that some of these kids have visions of grandeur dancing in their heads and just want to go away to a big program. it is impressive don’t you think.

    the truth remains, this staff has gone out to the neighborhood to recruit. while at the same time many say that this year is rather lean in the way of d1 prospects. but, wait til next year.

    get it?

  81. RedZone December 17, 2013 1:10 pm

    Go for Mike Ekeler.

  82. kifi December 17, 2013 1:18 pm

    Does anyone know where Corey Batoon is coaching these days?

  83. JaM December 17, 2013 1:23 pm

    #82 Ole Miss??

  84. kifi December 17, 2013 1:29 pm

    Thought Justin Ena would have been a good fit here at UH as a linebacker coach. Congratulations to him on being named the new DC at Weber State.

  85. kitsunegari December 17, 2013 1:29 pm

    not sure who is dumber, the villiage idiot or the people that keep talking to him.

  86. Marleysdad December 17, 2013 1:32 pm

    #80, I do not think it is impressive when kids “think” they have to go away to bigger things. While the grass may look greener from over the fence, if you contribute to your own lawn, it could be just as green.

    Like Kevin Sumlin told Johnny Football, “if you want to be a texas football legend, to have to play football in texas.”

    No matter the accolades, Manti Teo will never be a legend like Niko, Al, Maa, Nuu, etc. etc.

    What would impress me is if these blue chippers stayed home to make a difference here. I believe if all the top kids stayed home, we’d be a perennial top 20 team.

    People would be excited, tickets would sell, money would flow….

  87. kifi December 17, 2013 1:33 pm

    Thanks JaM. Notice he’s the Asst. AD. Good career move for him, if that’s what he wants. We need to get him back into coaching.

  88. A-House December 17, 2013 1:40 pm


    me no sabe – only press da gas and go like hell!

    yep, been saying for a long time, from days of JJ to Mack, that there is talent in the outside islands who would make UH proud – unfortunate for us that they, Big Island boys, went to the PAC 10 – hope 2013 will be different!

  89. kifi December 17, 2013 1:41 pm

    The AFCA convention is in January. Coach Chow will probably wait to see who else shakes out from there. There are probably way more coaching prospects than there are jobs, so it wouldn’t hurt much to wait until after the convention to settle on your new coaches. Got to be able to sell the recruits on the program, the school, the state, and its great, loyal fans.

  90. Derek December 17, 2013 1:42 pm

    I guess we’re not going to get a JC QB or transfer in time for spring, unless someone calls UH since it’s the dead period. Still looking for the Holy Grail!

  91. A-House December 17, 2013 1:43 pm


    unfortunately parents have great influence over young children – be it for the child or for the parent(s) – ah, to live vicariously

  92. gobows December 17, 2013 1:55 pm

    wr, de, lb…keep the recruits coming!

  93. Rite80 December 17, 2013 1:57 pm

    What a high scoring offense can do is alter the offensive strategy of the other team. This helps the defense turn the opposing teams offense into a one dimensional passing team. This of course hurts the running teams more than the passing teams. JJ’s and Mack’s team were never hurt in this way since they were mostly throwing.

  94. gobows December 17, 2013 2:03 pm

    only 1 win, so what, come to hawaii and you get good chance to play right away.

    so true. dick tomey proved it in the early 80’s.


  95. gobows December 17, 2013 2:06 pm

    how much scoring did jj do off the field?

  96. Boolakanaka December 17, 2013 2:20 pm

    Whether a local kid goes away or stays home, it’s an equally impressive feat. But, for me personally, it’s not so much about playing ball, which in itself is fantastic, but the opportunity to help shape their own life’s for the next 50-60 years. I played ball all the way to almost my mid 20s, but those were not the best times in my life. My best times were many years later helping out a young person find their way or mentoring someone like myself, who was rather pupule in his youth.

    So, if a kid can to a Stanford or Cal, I have no objections whatsoever–ultimately they are there to obtain an education, and play football–in that order. A lifetime is a longtime, and getting a great education will serve you everyday of your life.

  97. Andrew December 17, 2013 2:30 pm


    I don’t understand why people look negatively upon local athletes wanting to go away for school. If they feel that going to the mainland for new experiences and different opportunities will make them happy then more power to them, that’s great.

  98. Andrew December 17, 2013 2:33 pm

    You also may not consider Manti a legend like the Nogas, but he sure is one at Notre Dame, pretty much one of the most storied college football programs.

  99. Marleysdad December 17, 2013 2:46 pm

    96, a whole lot. Even scored on the vb court.

  100. Marleysdad December 17, 2013 2:50 pm

    Too bad I don’t live in south bend.

    If you want to be a Hawaii football legend, you have to play in Hawaii.

  101. Down with.... December 17, 2013 2:51 pm

    If you can get off the Rock and experience the mainland, better yet it’s paid for plus a great education like (USC, UCLA, Stanford, Washington, Oregon, Notre Dame etc)…..and you don’t come from money…..hmmmmm….kind of an easy choice I would think.

    Student athletes please don’t listen to these grown ups on this blog…no you won’t be out casted as a transplant or non-local anymore, you’re still local, in fact, you have the power to spread that Aloha throughout the mainland. which for those who have left the rock and experience the pleasure of telling people you from Hawaii, it doesn’t matter where you go international overseas or down south, and it doesn’t matter if you Hawaiian, White, Chinese, Japanese whatevers as soon as you say, “I was born and raised in Hawaii….” it’s almost like they treat you different (in a good way). For those of you who know what I talking about, you must agree, for those of you who don’t….get off the Rock and experience it. Lucky you live Hawaii….Aloha-andohyeahsmokeabowl

  102. Whars up December 17, 2013 2:52 pm

    The thing about June Jones unlike McMackin RnS and Chow is that JJ didn’t believe in Punting. He went for it on fourth down a lot of the times, good or bad. That kinda changes how the stats look compared to Mack and Chow.

  103. gobows December 17, 2013 2:59 pm


    how do you know that manti is a “legend” at south bend? fake gf legend is not the same as a football legend.

  104. Andrew December 17, 2013 3:00 pm


    don’t really remember him saying he wants to be a Hawaii football legend. Not sure why you’re comparing him with that category

  105. Andrew December 17, 2013 3:01 pm


    Fake gf or no fake gf, what he did on the field doesn’t change.

  106. gobows December 17, 2013 3:03 pm


    thats not true. jj had the best punters in the history of hawaii football. just because he went for it on 4th down inside his own 30 (and failed), doesn’t mean he went for it on 4th very often.

  107. jonj December 17, 2013 3:04 pm

    94 rite80 Spot on man! i forgot how we would change a teams game plan and make them try to keep up with our pace of scoring. Problem is I believe JJ revolutionized the game with fast high pace scoring so now everyone is scoring at will. Which probably why JJ isnt as good anymore now that the Spread has spread out to every team.

  108. Marleysdad December 17, 2013 3:10 pm

    106 just as an example.

    107 was that missed takles against alabama or was he just hugging his gf?

    Kinda weird that some encourage these kids to go away, here on this blog. Is it not the Warrior Beat?

  109. Marleysdad December 17, 2013 3:10 pm


  110. Andrew December 17, 2013 3:13 pm

    110. I’m only saying they should be free to do what they want to do. If they want to go away then who are we to discourage/ critisize them for it? I’d love it if they went to UH to play for the home team, but it’s their life and their decision.

    Funny how you’re evaluating his entire college career off of one game.

  111. Andrew December 17, 2013 3:18 pm

    I mean if that was your son/daughter, would you blame them for wanting to go away for school? or would you want them to do what they want to do and what’s best for them? Pretty sure you wouldn’t appreciate a bunch of people critisizing your kid for wanting to go away either.

  112. Andrew December 17, 2013 3:19 pm


  113. Boolakanaka December 17, 2013 3:20 pm

    101…really, maybe you should talk to some of the OGs , Bob Apisa, Squirming Herman, Mosi Tatupu, Russ Francis, to name a few….there is no one who would not call them legends of Hawai’i football.

  114. justsomeguy December 17, 2013 3:34 pm

    #99 Sorry, but you’re delusional if you don’t believe Manti is a legend at Notre Dame, have you been there? The people LOVE him.

    There is nothing wrong with local recruits wanting to go elsewhere, it’s the football staffs job top convince them to stay.

  115. Down with.... December 17, 2013 3:45 pm

    marleysdad….you just don’t get it….but that’s okay. I too have a hard time understanding things outside my knowledge/belief/reasoning.

    If they want to stay and represent then stay and represent….if they want to leave and branch out, then lets support them. No need cry. These are “student” athletes not professionally paid athletes. and yes, I do support the team and want them to succeed. sometimes out of state athletes are just as good too you know, and I’m sure their blogs are saying the same thing you are….it’s okay. its just football….things will be okay

  116. NotNasti December 17, 2013 3:48 pm

    115. Not to mention . . . Karl Lorch, Jim Nicholson & Kurt Gouveia who also went away for college.

  117. Andrew December 17, 2013 3:50 pm



  118. Whars up December 17, 2013 3:51 pm


    Did you read what I posted? I’m comparing JJ to Mack and Chow on going for it on fourth down. Everybody know June Jones had a tendancy to for it on fourth down more than Mack and Chow does.

  119. Marleysdad December 17, 2013 3:54 pm

    Andrew, they can do what ever they want.

    Boola, no I don’t. All great football players though.

  120. Boolakanaka December 17, 2013 4:07 pm

    Hmmmn,so even these men who paved the way like Charles Ane and Rockne Frietas?? But, the thing that does bother me is your constant reference to Manti’s GF; I get it, he is naive and sheltered. At the end of the day, it’s at most a benign attribute. On the other hand, some of the guys you mentioned on your list have had actual serious charges against them on a criminal level- from assault to battery of a spouse. My question then is why is Manti held to such a stricter standard?

  121. Andrew December 17, 2013 4:08 pm


    Yes I know they can do what they want. That was pretty much the point I was trying to makl.

  122. Andrew December 17, 2013 4:08 pm


  123. Boolakanaka December 17, 2013 4:12 pm

    And please if Mosi and Herman are not legends, then we have left some of the most iconic figures in not just football, but all-time hawai’i sports lore. Herman is actually in the college football hall of fame and Mosi, was both the college special teams player of the year and is in the Hawaii sports HOF, but according to you, not a legend—curious.

  124. Marleysdad December 17, 2013 4:23 pm

    So, you all are saying that IF someone is FROM Hawaii, as I am, I must support them regardless of what team/school they choose? I think that’s a choice I get to make, not you.

    Everyone has their own idea of what makes one good, great, or legend. You have yours I have mine. You are not alone with your belief, neither am I.

  125. WarriorMojo December 17, 2013 4:29 pm

    Manti did great things for the people of South Bend. Let THEM worship at his altar. He did NOTHING for Hawaii football or Hawaii’s people as far as I’m concerned.

    Sure, it was his choice (or his dad’s choice) to go to ND. That’s fine. But from that moment on his career meant nothing to me. The current financial crisis at UH athletics isn’t his fault at all, but he sure hasn’t done anything to help.

    So, no, I won’t EVER be rocking an ND or SC jersey to support a kid who went away while UH athletics dies a slow death.

    By the way, a degree in basket weaving is a degree in basket weaving. Doesn’t matter where the degree is from.

  126. WarriorMojo December 17, 2013 4:32 pm

    Re# 125

    It would have been more impressive if Mosi had done those things at UH. Why couldn’t he have?

    Not gonna speak to Wedemeyer as that was before my time.

  127. WarriorMojo December 17, 2013 4:36 pm

    By the way just so it’s clear, I don’t dislike Manti any more or any less than any of the other ND linebackers. (Well, maybe, slightly more after that whole girlfriend dying of cancer hoax). But I don’t give a hoot about ND.

    Don’t know if I saw any of the great plays that Manti supposedly made, but none of them will EVER stand out more in my memory than Corey Paredes stripping Kaepernick at the goal line. Now THAT was a great play.

  128. Down with.... December 17, 2013 4:39 pm

    Marleysdad….yes that’s a choice you get to make….just like that’s a choice they get to make (in determining where they want to go)….all we are saying is:
    1.) we not going keep all the best players from Hawaii, it’s impossible
    2.) since we can’t keep them here, might as well support them no matter where they decide to go, as they are still children of Hawaii versus the negative banter directed towards them for not staying home
    3.) you can support who you want, just as they can choose where they want to go
    4.) whether you play for the Home team or go away….if you excel (in football in this case) and carry Hawaii on your shoulders no matter the team you play for, your name will live on in history. Yes the ones who stay home sometime carry a stronger feeling within the home crowd, but that doesn’t make the ones who left any lesser
    5.) smokeabowl and relax…when we die none of this sh*t matters

  129. Boolakanaka December 17, 2013 4:49 pm

    128… To a certain degree I see your point, but you also need to look at the state and level of the programs at that point in history. SC was playing for national championships and going to Rose Bowls. Hawaii was playing teams like humboldt state, Portland State and Texas A&I…etc Not comparable programs on any level…and I think like most of us, if you think you are the best, well you want to play with the best. The best at that time, was arguably USC. Sidenote, UH had two very good backs that played on Sundays : Arnold Morgado and Wilbert Haslip.

  130. Marleysdad December 17, 2013 5:13 pm

    Eh, you guys all missed the point of my post. #86 Go re-read it.

    WarriorMojo gets it.

  131. Marleysdad December 17, 2013 5:17 pm

    112, Andrew, many players are remembered for just one game.

    Bill Buckner
    Leon Lett
    Thurman Thomas
    Walter Murray

  132. jonj December 17, 2013 5:23 pm

    Manti Did some good things for hawaii football. A legend not to me either. but he did pave the way for other Hawaii boys to have more chances to leave us. which isnt that great either. But at the end of the Day im proud of any Hawaii Boy that made it. Im just more proud for the ones that stay!

  133. gobows December 17, 2013 5:49 pm


    yeah mack was afraid to go for it…chow has been taken chances on 4th, except for when he calls a t.o. and then sends out harding.

    had to get that jab at walter murray…but he’s also remembered for trying to bribe hpd with uh game tickets.
    you can add terrell davis’ migraine to thurman thomas’ lost helmet.

  134. jonj December 17, 2013 5:56 pm

    Chow 4th down conversion
    2013 12-27
    2012 10-26
    Mack last 2 years

    Once again Ill take Mack!

  135. jonj December 17, 2013 6:01 pm

    Chows taking a chance on 4th is becuz he has to. While Macks was becuz he wanted to.

  136. Moocher December 17, 2013 6:36 pm

    my kid gets scholarship offers from Stanford, Georgia Tech, Florida, and Hawaii. he chooses to go Georgia Tech for their engineering and architecture. my neighbors tell me great job, lucky you, good for your kid.

    my kid who happens to play football gets scholarship offers from Stanford, Georgia Tech, Florida, and Hawaii. he chooses to go Georgia Tech for their engineering and architecture. my neighbors tell me why isn’t your kid going to represent, if he goes away he won’t be remembered and no one will care, he should stay home and help UH, etc….blah blah blah to a point where there is bad feelings if he goes away.

    so tell me why does the fact that if he played football make a difference where in one scenario you wish him the best and in the other scenario he basically gets shunned?

    And no, seriously, not all degrees are the same. yeah, if i had a job opening for basket weaving and my applicants had degrees in basket weaving from hawaii, nebraska, harvard…i’m taking the person from hawaii.

    if i had a corn farm in iowa i’m taking the person with the ag degree from nebraska.

  137. Moocher December 17, 2013 6:47 pm

    by the way…i’m still waiting to see all the chow haters pony up the money to bring in norwood as the DC.
    if chow fails, then norwood already has his foot in the door for the HC job.

    come on chow haters…if norwood comes in as DC for chow and the team has a great year, hey you’re happy right?

    if chow has a bad year and gets fired and norwood becomes the new HC, hey you’re happy right?

    so either way chow haters will be the happiest of all if they put their money where their mouth is and bring in norwood…correct?

    …and hurry up with the money because we won’t be able to recruit especially on the defensive side of the ball with no DC…nevermind the last two guys ST talked about.


  138. al December 17, 2013 6:49 pm

    not to mention how much reno mahe wreaked havoc upon the warriors.

  139. Warrior Dave December 17, 2013 6:52 pm

    #88 Fei Jai,

    The two that you point out do mot have guaranteed 5 year contracts. Hope you understand the difference.

  140. Warrior Dave December 17, 2013 8:02 pm

    #88 Fei Jai, Poof and it’s gone!!

  141. too much blah blah in this blog December 17, 2013 8:11 pm

    jonj, ’nuff already. if your metric of “a good defense” is “how many games you win,” then okay. june jones “made the defense better.” but there are other statistical metrics that regular people (and also analysts) use to talk about defense, like scoring defense, yards allowed, and so on. If UH beats a ben roethlisberger lead Miami of Ohio team 52-51, that doesn’t necessarily mean the defense played well or that the offense made the defense play “better.”

    UH’s defense this year is bad. It doesn’t matter if they were doing the run and shoot with colt brennan or if they’re doing their thing with sean shroeder. straight up, UH defense is awful.

  142. NorthShoreFan December 17, 2013 8:32 pm

    have a treat on me….relax a little…


    she from Jamaica mon…dad went away and look what he got….

  143. PurpleMaple December 17, 2013 8:46 pm

    There aren’t Chow haters, but just a lot of fans that are frustrated with the results of the past two years. 4-20 is hard for any fan, so it is understandable that fans want a change in leadership. That’s not unreasonable. And it’s a sad day when the fans will take a 5-7 season and call it successful. That’s where the program is right now.

  144. WarriorMojo December 17, 2013 8:48 pm


    In reality your second example never happens. Very, very — VERY — few people in Hawaii think of UH as their first choice. None of your neighbors will disrespect your kid’s choice (unless you live next to me, lol). In fact they will assume that your kid is SOMEBODY because he got an offer from a mainland school. Far too many Hawaii people view attendance at a mainland school as a sign of success, of making it. It’s not. Again, basket weaving at Georgia Tech isn’t anymore challenging than basket weaving anywhere else.

    While we’re at it, let’s talk about the UH fall back position: “Oh, you can always go UH if things don’t work out.” Well, don’t look now, but UH football is in financial dire straits. It may NOT always be here if Hawaii people continue to treat it as their second choice. That perception of UH as a fall back position just HAS to change.

    That’s why a kid like Beau Yap is such a blessing. He WANTED to stay home. Love that kid.

  145. Former UH Athlete December 17, 2013 9:10 pm

    Well….. At least one winning ticket for $636 million jackpot was sold in California….

    We’ll soon find out if any more winners.

    My office bought tickets from a Californa store…. We got a shot!

  146. kapakahi December 17, 2013 9:29 pm

    #11 & #32,

    Now that Mata’afa has committed to Wazzu, not really any major uncommitted Class of 2014 local catches left…..that UH is heavily pursuing……to get excited about……so local recruiting efforts now more focused on trying to fend off the mainland poachers.

    With TT now gone, hopefully UH still directing some recruiting efforts to American Samoa……to maintain some ties. While there have been just a few over the past decade or so, no doubt that the ALL signees from American Samoa have been solid contributors (Iosefa, Ah Soon, Sauafea, Purcell brothers)……which figures to be the case with FB Faalologo next season too.

  147. obachan December 17, 2013 10:05 pm

    If an athlete wants to play college ball on the mainland that’s certainly their decision, but as Mr. Wonderful on Shark Tank says: “You’re dead to me.”

  148. Warrior Dave December 17, 2013 10:33 pm

    Warrior Dave. Relax. Don’t get your panties in a bunch. St will automatically delete any comment critical of his uncle norm.

  149. Fei Jai December 17, 2013 10:36 pm

    Oops. Sorry warrior Dave. That last post was supposed to be my post. It was addressed to you though.

  150. Boolakanaka December 18, 2013 3:13 am

    Either way if a kid stays home or goes away, they have my support–period. However, if a kid goes away based on his perception of better academics and/or degrees not offered at UH, them I still have aloha for them. Football is just a season in life.

  151. wafan December 18, 2013 4:16 am

    Good morning.

  152. wafan December 18, 2013 4:17 am

    Hmmmmmm, unmasked?


  153. Maddog50 December 18, 2013 5:15 am

    # 45….I agree…just sent a little year end donation to round out 2013…..my 2014 check will be sent after Jan 1….its one thing to be a so called fan…it’s another to be a supporter….I will take the latter….Go Warriors!!!!

  154. wasabi December 18, 2013 5:20 am

    Maddog…lets see if you ever get your moneys worth with Chow.You and FUHA….

  155. Maddog50 December 18, 2013 5:45 am

    I am a supporter of the program not some critic or doomsayer. People like you are nothing more than destroyers…no thanks. I try to stay off of these things because they serve no purpose when going down certain paths. I will continue to stay the course and certain elements will not deter….go bash something else—Go Warriors!!!!

  156. wasabi December 18, 2013 5:58 am

    If you truly support the program you would see it is being destroyed Sad but true.

  157. Maddog50 December 18, 2013 6:28 am

    Do not see it that way at all. And to question if I support the program I can certainly back up how and to what extent. I am fortunate to have attained a degree and play for the University. I am indebted and always will be. It is okay to have differing views. As I said I prefer to be contrstructive rather than destructive….this in time, sooner than later will prove out to be a positive thing. I do my homework before sharing my opinoins simple as that—-Go Warriors!!!!!

  158. wasabi December 18, 2013 6:32 am

    Appreciate your opinion and support, just not a believer that Chow has close to what it takes to get it done.

  159. hilosupaman December 18, 2013 7:12 am

    I know I’m way late but for all the people who are saying Manti did nothing for Hawaii, only ND:

    Last year I went to a game, He is a legend there. And because I am from Hawaii the way people treated me was like I was family, just because we are from the same state.

    Prior to the girlfriend saga, everyone in the Nation was falling in love with him. Apparently people fogot about the fans buying leis and waiving them around and holding up the number 5 for him!

    Manti did do something difrectly for Hawaii, he showed the local kids that there is nothing to fear. He went to one of the most prestegious academic and athletic schools and became a star. Every person there that talked about him did it with pride and did it with ALOHA. If that is not doing something for Hawaii and Hawaii fotball I’m not sure what is!

  160. Marleysdad December 18, 2013 7:18 am

    What did he contribute to Hawaii? Nothing.

    People all over the mainland love people from Hawaii. That goes back way before manti was born.

  161. tommui December 18, 2013 7:32 am


    Repeating myself again – sorry but …

    He plays for Oregon, not for Hawaii!
    He plays for Washington State, not for Hawaii!
    He plays for Notre Dame, not for Hawaii!
    He plays for Southern California, not for Hawaii!

    He may be from Hawaii, but he does not play for Hawaii!

    If he does well at his school, there would be some hometown pride in his success, but not as much as if he were playing for Hawaii.

    If he went to a school like Stanford, Washington, or one of the Ivy Schools, very understandable – great scholastic schools.

    But should he elect to go to a school that is the same academic-wise as UH, I shake my head – auwe!

    I remember (sorta) of a guy who went to Notre Dame prior to Te’o and never heard about him since. I heard about the guy from St. Louis who went to BYU, and never hear about him since. But I do remember the Nogas, the Ah Yuens etc though years have passed – THEY ALL PLAYED FOR HAWAII!

  162. azwarrior22 December 18, 2013 7:32 am

    Just my 2 cents… I think the UH football fans needs to stop this small state mentality about other Hawaii prep players. If you are in any other state, then college football fans from that state don’t care if for example an Arizona prep player goes to Nebraska or wherever. Their allegiance is to their alma mater or the college team(s) that they root for. This isn’t to say that we don’t wish them well because they are from Hawaii but we don’t really discuss about them in a UH football forum.

  163. Former UH Athlete December 18, 2013 7:37 am

    No MegaMillions jackpot for me…. Winning tickets sold in San Jose and somewhere in Georgia.

    Former UH Athlete Stadium @ Manoa is gonna have to wait a little while longer. oh well, I least I had a shot at the jackpot.

  164. truegreen December 18, 2013 7:51 am

    tommui, I would question when you say Washington is a great scholastic school and Notre Dame is not…

  165. Slugger December 18, 2013 8:35 am

    Good morning, gang!

    All I want for Christmas is for our student-athletes to graduate from college, not get hurt when they compete, enjoy their college years & involvement in their sport, and to be successful in whatever they do after college.

    I don’t care who they play for. It’s only a game. Life is not.

    Mele Kalikimaka kakou!

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